From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 00:20:18 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25428; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:20:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:20:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001010406.XAA15827@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:07:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Roland MS-1 From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"omvUc.0.hw3.zqNRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com man you are a gear whore..:> ---------- >From: "NITESH PATEL" >To: >Subject: Re: Roland MS-1 >Date: Fri, Dec 31, 1999, 9:09 PM > >ROLAND WILL SEND YOU THE BOOK FOR 15.00 US CALL ROLAND I HAVE A MS-1 WITH A >20 MEG CARD IN IT SAMPLES IN ALL 5 BANKS IT'S GREAT LITTLE PHRASE SAMPLER I >GOT ASR-10 SAMPLING KEYBOARD AND A ROLAND SP808 AND A MC505 I WANNA GET A SP >GROOVE 202 IF YOU KNOW ANY ONE SELLIN ONE LET ME KNOW. TESH@GTE.NET >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 8:17 AM >Subject: Roland MS-1 > > >> Does anyone have any experience using the Roland MS-1 sampler >> with a Flashdisk memory card? >> >> Jon Williams >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 08:29:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01209; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:29:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:29:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF545C.D1134A50.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers Delight'" Subject: OT: Sony DAT/battery problems Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:33:17 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-w6b22.0.Fy3.DDVRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sorry to post off topic ... does anyone know if there are Sony DAT user websites/mailing lists as there are sites for Minidisc? for some reason, when I put new batteries into the DAT, I can only record for a few minutes. The battery load indicator goes swiftly down, and then the DAT stops and the 'battery' empty warning blinks. Why is this? I don't want to give it away to Sony for repair because it'll take weeks again, and I need this thing very often ... * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 09:30:41 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18603; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:30:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 09:30:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701bf5461$13d74860$a69bb8d4@oemcomputer> From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (Luis Angulo) To: "Loopers delight" Subject: Happy new year Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:03:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: <"NGcVq3.0.vR2.UWWRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Finally i am reading interesting and essential topics to this web site looping, soundscapes,equipment to accomplish this hey the year is starting out great! One question to you loopers: what is the best way to record my loops into my VS 840 from my EDP?Do you take the output of the EDP direct into the VS840 input or do you do a midi dump? I also want to get an effects processor with good reverbs delays and fuzz tones to combine with my Guitar synth that is not way expensive. Any suggestions? Thanks L.A. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 13:00:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15429; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:00:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:00:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000a01bf5477$def060c0$4da99bcf@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Happy new year Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:47:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"kLZAa.0.au2.UwYRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Happy New Year y'all--hope you all enjoyed the biggest loop of all drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 16:57:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04816; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:57:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:57:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dlangenes@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1de8f8fe.259fc36e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:54:06 EST Subject: Scofield question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Resent-Message-ID: <"9qf523.0.g-3.MccRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Happy New Year Loopheads! I'm on a quest for the John Scofield Leslie sound. Anyone know what pedal he uses? David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 17:03:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06716; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:03:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:03:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 16:00:01 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dgoat@sekhetmaat.com CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: New looper guidance wanted/needed References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HOxdp3.0.0Z4.KicRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com volume, fuzz, modulation, reverb, delay...then more modulation to really screw it up! I like the mod. before the fuzz sometimes too and the reverb after the delay can be cool also.Of course it is subjective, try all combos. peace, jd "Rev. Doubt-Goat" wrote: > 93 > > Bill Fox wrote: > > In what order to you recommend to put these devices? > > Fuzz - Volume - Modulation - Delay - Reverb > > -- > 93 > Fr. Doubt-Goat From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 19:21:21 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22116; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:21:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:21:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 18:24:34 -0500 From: Darcy Clark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audio processing ? References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"I3BHF.0.u_7.HjeRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm curious to see whether anyone on the list is using the Nord Modular or Nord Micromodular synths (http://www.clavia.se/modular.htm) in their looping setups.... apart from being very cool 'virtual modular synths', they have analog ins and an "audio mod" group of modifiers : AUDIO MOD GROUP Clip Overdrive Wavewrapper Quantizer Delay line Sample and hold Diode processing Stereo chorus Shaper Phaser Expander Compressor Inverter and level shifter Ring and AM modulator Digitizer The complete list of other synthesis modules is at http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/modules.htm I wonder what the max time on the delay line is ? Having a dedicated hardware box for processing is sweet to me - you do the editing of patches on your PC, then unplug the box and take it to the gig.... Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 20:35:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17758; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:35:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:35:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386EA268.88C4AD17@engin.umich.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 19:57:33 -0500 From: Darcy Clark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: "quasimodo" - interesting Linux software with looping potential References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"QFE-i2.0.dL.H4gRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://quasimodo.org/ a modular, extensible, real-time environment for audio+MIDI generation and processing. Included in the list of included module is a "Fripp" module that "stores arbitrary length loops on disk, then replays". Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 20:53:03 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA24256; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:53:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:53:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:58:20 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audio processing ? Resent-Message-ID: <"jAU3X3.0.wl.k8gRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Unfortunately, I remember from AH idscussions that the delay time is very, very small. There's no extra ram in the hardware design for the type of echo/loop delay lines we're thinking of, so the situation isn't likely to change... I wouldn't be surprised to see this capability in the next generation of Clavia Modulars though, and that would be a VERY attractive package for audio mangling. Mark >I'm curious to see whether anyone on the list is using the Nord Modular >or Nord Micromodular synths (http://www.clavia.se/modular.htm) in their >looping setups.... apart from being very cool 'virtual modular synths', >they have analog ins and an "audio mod" group of modifiers : > >I wonder what the max time on the delay line is ? Having a dedicated >hardware box for processing is sweet to me - you do the editing of >patches on your PC, then unplug the box and take it to the gig.... > >Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 21:17:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA32375; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:17:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:17:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386EA6B8.9C3DE989@minds-eye.org> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 20:15:36 -0500 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Midi Guitars and Guitar Synths References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> <386EA268.88C4AD17@engin.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"S30Er3.0.5c2.WSgRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Venerable loopers, Does anyone have any information they would care to share with a neophyte regarding Midi guitars and/or guitar synths? I really like the concept of the guitar synth, but know next to nothing about them (models, types, known problems, etc., etc.). If anyone has any opinions or information they'd like to pass on about the topic I'd be most grateful. Thanks Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 20:56:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25821; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:56:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:56:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101bf5329$125ccf20$fb9a56d1@ms579768> From: "Judson Crane" To: References: <0.1de8f8fe.259fc36e@aol.com> Subject: Re: Scofield question Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:50:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZHLUg2.0.Wx.PAgRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I believe he uses the TC electronics chorus/flanger pedal. Jud Happy 2000! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Scofield question > Happy New Year Loopheads! > > I'm on a quest for the John Scofield Leslie sound. Anyone know what pedal he > uses? > > David > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 21:08:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29724; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:08:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:08:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001701bf532b$03327200$fb9a56d1@ms579768> From: "Judson Crane" To: References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> Subject: Re: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audio processing ? Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:04:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"sJStW2.0.j52.ONgRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The delay lines aren't really useful looping (as their max time is only something like 8 ms or less). They also take up 8 percent of the processing power. These figures aren't exact as I only toyed with one for a bit. Check out Reaktor (a software synth/sampler) by Native Instruments. Every second of delay takes about 50k of RAM and with the appropriate soundcard you can process stuff in real time through the audio inputs. lots of fun! The other processing on the Nord is very very cool though. Reliable and clean (no occasional clicks or crackles). I'm still not sure whether I will buy the micro modular or invest in its big brother as with the micro you lose polyphony (only 1-4 voices!) and expansion ability, and not to mention all the cool assignable knobs. Jud ----- Original Message ----- From: Darcy Clark To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 6:24 PM Subject: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audio processing ? > I'm curious to see whether anyone on the list is using the Nord Modular > or Nord Micromodular synths (http://www.clavia.se/modular.htm) in their > looping setups.... apart from being very cool 'virtual modular synths', > they have analog ins and an "audio mod" group of modifiers : > > AUDIO MOD GROUP > > Clip > Overdrive > Wavewrapper > Quantizer > Delay line > Sample and hold > Diode processing > Stereo chorus > Shaper > Phaser > Expander > Compressor > Inverter and level shifter > Ring and AM modulator > Digitizer > > The complete list of other synthesis modules is at http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/modules.htm > > I wonder what the max time on the delay line is ? Having a dedicated > hardware box for processing is sweet to me - you do the editing of > patches on your PC, then unplug the box and take it to the gig.... > > Darcy > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 22:29:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25564; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:29:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:29:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: kenard@compuserve.com From: "ken griffith" To: Subject: RE: Scofield question Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:29:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001101bf5329$125ccf20$fb9a56d1@ms579768> Resent-Message-ID: <"gx4QT2.0._t.LUhRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi... Have you checked out John's website.... www..JohnScofield.Com.... He was using a Boss Chorus Cranked-up full for a while.. there's also some of his charts & mailing list there where you could probably get more info... -----Original Message----- From: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com] On Behalf Of Judson Crane Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Scofield question I believe he uses the TC electronics chorus/flanger pedal. Jud Happy 2000! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Scofield question > Happy New Year Loopheads! > > I'm on a quest for the John Scofield Leslie sound. Anyone know what pedal he > uses? > > David > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 23:18:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14768; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:18:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:18:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000102031616.52002.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.181.94.40] From: "Greg S" To: References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> <386EA268.88C4AD17@engin.umich.edu> <386EA6B8.9C3DE989@minds-eye.org> Subject: Re: Midi Guitars and Guitar Synths Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:19:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"XGhZT3.0.7u4.YCiRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For midi guitar info, check out these news groups and websites: http://www.eGroups.com/list/midiguitar/info.html http://www.onelist.com/community/GR-30 http://www.egroups.com/group/digital-guitar/info.html also see http://www.vg-8.com A number of manufacturers participate on some of these lists and are quite helpful. The VG-8 is NOT a guitar synth, but the pickup technology used to drive a VG-8 is the exact same thing used for guitar synths. There's a good deal of cross-over in the 2 areas. My recommendation: the Roland GR-30 with a Roland GK-2A pickup mounted on your favorite electric guitar (or backup if you have 2) is a great way to get into midi guitar. It's a pretty good combination of price and performance. There are arguably better pickups and synths, but they cost more of course. Watch ebay for a few weeks and you'll surely see a GR-30 and/or a GK-2a pop up for auction. Good luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 5:15 PM Subject: Midi Guitars and Guitar Synths > Venerable loopers, > > Does anyone have any information they would care to share with a neophyte > regarding Midi guitars and/or guitar synths? I really like the concept of > the guitar synth, but know next to nothing about them (models, types, > known problems, etc., etc.). > > If anyone has any opinions or information they'd like to pass on about the > topic I'd be most grateful. > > Thanks > > Kevin > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 1 23:27:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19561; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:27:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:27:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000101221824.009623b0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:23:17 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Midi Guitars and Guitar Synths In-Reply-To: <386EA6B8.9C3DE989@minds-eye.org> References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> <386EA268.88C4AD17@engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"RZ5z73.0.ws5.pKiRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:15 PM 1/1/00 -0500, kevin@minds-eye.org wrote: >Venerable loopers, > > >If anyone has any opinions or information they'd like to pass on about the >topic I'd be most grateful. Guitar synth is great! That's my opinion. i takes some getting used to and the model you want will depend on what you want to do with it. I bought a GR-50 years ago because I wanted a rack mounted unit. It's internal sounds are nearly useless but it's external MIDI capability shines when used with modules suck as a Korg Wavestation and an Oberheim Matrix-1000. I've stayed away from the stomp-pedal models because they seemed to be made for playing internal sounds only and most of those sounds seemed to be rather bland general-midi type sounds. What you should do is find a music store that has one on the floor to try. Take it for a test drive. Ask if you can connect it to some top-notch synth modules with the kinds of sounds you are interested in. **************** Floyd Miller ********** floyd@studiodust.com ****** http://www.studiodust.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** palace://studiodust.com:9998 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 01:23:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30654; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:23:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:23:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000102002905.0086f790@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 00:29:05 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: Roland MS-1 In-Reply-To: <01b001bf53f4$d3868f80$f9b9173f@GTEtesh> References: <38469BA9.52AC@together.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"H8MJN3.0.me3.06kRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the bummer with the ms-1 is that you can't play PITCH with it ..!!you can only trigger the sample to come on... does anyone know if the 'dr sample' lets you play pitches??? andre' At 05:09 PM 12/31/1999 -0800, you wrote: >ROLAND WILL SEND YOU THE BOOK FOR 15.00 US CALL ROLAND I HAVE A MS-1 WITH A >20 MEG CARD IN IT SAMPLES IN ALL 5 BANKS IT'S GREAT LITTLE PHRASE SAMPLER I >GOT ASR-10 SAMPLING KEYBOARD AND A ROLAND SP808 AND A MC505 I WANNA GET A SP >GROOVE 202 IF YOU KNOW ANY ONE SELLIN ONE LET ME KNOW. TESH@GTE.NET >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 8:17 AM >Subject: Roland MS-1 > > >> Does anyone have any experience using the Roland MS-1 sampler >> with a Flashdisk memory card? >> >> Jon Williams >> >> > > > *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 01:53:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03691; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:53:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:53:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386EEA06.ED0D471B@engin.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 01:02:46 -0500 From: Darcy Clark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD snapN45b1 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audio processing ? References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"aLKFN3.0.sJ6.ZZkRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks for the replies re: Nord Modulars.....looks like the delay time is way too short. looks like I might have to save up my $$ for a Kyma system ;) Darcy Clark wrote: > I'm curious to see whether anyone on the list is using the Nord Modular > or Nord Micromodular synths (http://www.clavia.se/modular.htm) in their > looping setups.... apart from being very cool 'virtual modular synths', > they have analog ins and an "audio mod" group of modifiers : > > AUDIO MOD GROUP > > Clip > Overdrive > Wavewrapper > Quantizer > Delay line > Sample and hold > Diode processing > Stereo chorus > Shaper > Phaser > Expander > Compressor > Inverter and level shifter > Ring and AM modulator > Digitizer > > The complete list of other synthesis modules is at http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/modules.htm > > I wonder what the max time on the delay line is ? Having a dedicated > hardware box for processing is sweet to me - you do the editing of > patches on your PC, then unplug the box and take it to the gig.... > > Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 14:16:15 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03127; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:16:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:16:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2fbbda4.25a0f607@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 13:42:15 EST Subject: Re: Scofield question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"do0XS2.0._95.hmvRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/1/00 11:01:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com writes: << > I'm on a quest for the John Scofield Leslie sound. Anyone know what pedal he > uses? > >> Last I heard it was the Ibanez RC99, a two-speed chorus thing that you could probably approximate with an RFX Twin Spin (that is, if either is still being made). Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 17:28:11 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19060; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:28:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:28:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386FBA99.3666BD53@quik.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:52:41 -0800 From: "Rev. Doubt-Goat" Reply-To: dgoat@sekhetmaat.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: New looper guidance wanted/needed References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"r9Tvd2.0.gO1.VcyRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 93 Jeff Duke wrote: > > volume, fuzz, modulation, reverb, delay...then more > modulation to really screw it up! > I like the mod. before the fuzz sometimes too and the > reverb after the delay can be cool also.Of course it is > subjective, try all combos. > peace, > jd I agree, try all combos, but if you want the Fripp sound, the volume HAS to be AFTER the fuzz. I also like modulation in front of the fuzz at times, but find that in a minimal setup it is more useful to have the modulation after the fuzz. Again, for a basic, flexible, Fripp-like loop setup, it is fuzz-volume-modulation-looper, or fuzz-modulation-volume-looper. 93 Fr. Doubt-Goat +++ +++++ +++ Sekhet-Maat Oasis, O.T.O. http://www.sekhetmaat.com +++ +++++ +++ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 17:32:27 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21111; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:32:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:32:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <386FC49F.FEA236B3@quik.com> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:35:27 -0800 From: "Rev. Doubt-Goat" Reply-To: dgoat@sekhetmaat.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: my 2000 References: <01BF5396.D866AA70.mpeters@csi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Vpi2j3.0.hP1.ZcyRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 93 Michael Peters wrote: > > yesterday a friend of mine (Karsten Schulze, a keyboard player from > Cologne/Germany) came up with a cool idea: > > His personal goal for 2000 is to create and record 10 seconds of music > every day. Just like a diary entry, but very short. 10 seconds each day sum > up to 3650 seconds, or about 1 hour of music at the end of the year, > consisting of 365 small bits. This is a really great idea, so I'm in as well. I am finding it difficult though to have only 10 seconds per selection. My first two have been 25 and 30 sec. If I have a fade in of 5 sec and a fade out of 5 sec, then I'm already looking at 10 sec for just the fades. I'm looking at a double cd by year's end at the very least ;-) 93 Fr. Doubt-Goat +++ +++++ +++ Sekhet-Maat Oasis, O.T.O. http://www.sekhetmaat.com +++ +++++ +++ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 17:45:37 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26502; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:45:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:45:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dlangenes@aol.com Message-ID: <0.bb1985fe.25a12723@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:11:47 EST Subject: Re: Scofield question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"QI9X52.0.zz2.lqyRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com interesting...we've got three different answers to this question so far. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 18:49:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21187; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:49:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:49:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701bf5577$84bcd420$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <0.bb1985fe.25a12723@aol.com> Subject: a dumb PC question Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:17:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"vKoG63.0.du1.bozRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi gang. To ring in the new year, I want to submit an early entry for the year's stupidest question. Here goes: When I'm playing a CD on my computer (PC), how can I save its contents (i.e. the music) as a sound file on the hard drive? Seriously, I can't figure it out! Thanks. Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 18:55:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23862; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:55:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:55:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000103003212.007d58e0@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:32:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, stickwire-l@netcom.com, taptalk@progrock.net From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl?= Bonell =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Subject: New Demo CD-ROM Release ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wchXt.0.q02.fpzRu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi friends ! Just to announce my new release ! DOCTOR SAX NEWS (Demo CD-ROM) realtime treatments, loops, chapman stick, warr guitar, drum programming, samples & found sounds Price: 3 EUROS / 500 pesetas (includes packing and postage) Only want to cover production costs !. Also, and preferred, trading it for a CD or tape of your own music. You'll find more info and sample sound files (.mp3 and .ra) at: http://www1.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News Cheers ! RBT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 19:54:35 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15786; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:54:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:54:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000103003907.007d7460@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:39:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl?= Bonell =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Subject: WTB: MIDI Foot-Controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"1z38O3.0.9h.Bl-Ru"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi de nou ! Looking for a MIDI Foot-Controler, if possible with expression pedal on-board or related input(s). keep looping ! RBT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 20:08:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21088; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:08:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:08:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: kenard@compuserve.com From: "ken griffith" To: Subject: RE: a dumb PC question Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 16:38:15 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000701bf5577$84bcd420$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"XxTlk3.0.a62.0y-Ru"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Use the C:/windows SNDREC*.exe to record a .wav file and check (the-line in or CD) on the mixer /record SNDVOL*.exe.... then make sure all your midi/audio settings are right in the Control Pane l/ Multimedia....good luck & have fun....ken -----Original Message----- From: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com] On Behalf Of Peter Shindler Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 3:17 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: a dumb PC question Hi gang. To ring in the new year, I want to submit an early entry for the year's stupidest question. Here goes: When I'm playing a CD on my computer (PC), how can I save its contents (i.e. the music) as a sound file on the hard drive? Seriously, I can't figure it out! Thanks. Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 21:10:37 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12664; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:10:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:10:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000102200333.007c78e0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 20:03:33 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: my 2000 In-Reply-To: <386FC49F.FEA236B3@quik.com> References: <01BF5396.D866AA70.mpeters@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"BVnb-.0.5D2.qC0Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... A great idea! I started yesterday (of course). The 10 second limit is tough to nail, but giving myself a 2 second grace area has loosened that up a bit. I'm very excited about the idea. It seems so simple, yet so overwhelming! I love it. I would suggest that everyone doing this possibly keep in touch so that we can trade our finished projects at the end of the year. If you are interested in this, please email me privately--and let's plan on doing that! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod >Michael Peters wrote: >> His personal goal for 2000 is to create and record 10 seconds of music >> every day. Just like a diary entry, but very short. 10 seconds each day sum >> up to 3650 seconds, or about 1 hour of music at the end of the year, >> consisting of 365 small bits. > __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 21:22:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17465; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:22:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:22:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000103021349.38993.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Scofield question Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 18:13:48 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"yOlbo3.0.YN3.-N0Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >interesting...we've got three different answers to this question so far. > let's make it four. My answer is "Yes, seven of them!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 21:39:54 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23891; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:39:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:39:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000103023441.7823.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: a dumb PC question Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 18:34:41 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"iUzg42.0.JR5.Zh0Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You need a special program to do that. AudioCatalyst and AudioGrabber work pretty well. They're pretty much the same program, except that I think audiograbber is free ware and Audio Catalyst is around $30 at most places that sell music software (including CompUSA and guitar center, as chain stores). To find Audiograbber, try doing a phrase search for "download audiograbber" on a search engine like altavista matt davignon >From: "Peter Shindler" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: a dumb PC question >Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:17:19 -0500 > >Hi gang. To ring in the new year, I want to submit an early entry for the >year's stupidest question. Here goes: > >When I'm playing a CD on my computer (PC), how can I save its contents >(i.e. >the music) as a sound file on the hard drive? Seriously, I can't figure it >out! > >Thanks. > > >Peter > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 22:12:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01832; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:12:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:12:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:07:28 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001030307.VAA02658@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: a dumb PC question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id WAA32407 Resent-Message-ID: <"unc-C3.0.dw7.z91Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com why don´t you try with the recording functuion from windows?? sound recorder, you choose the sampling or recording quality (cd, radio etc) works for me when working with ACID... Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 22:32:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07898; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:32:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:32:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002101bf5599$58a79c40$35c73dca@alfalfa> From: "[o]" To: References: <0.bb1985fe.25a12723@aol.com> <000701bf5577$84bcd420$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> Subject: Re: a dumb PC question Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:19:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"0qj2E3.0.QO.-D1Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi there are a couple of freeware propgrams for download on the net. one is called mp3box and it also has a cd ripper. try http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/freeware/95/ they might have something, even if ti is demo. if you just record a cd through line in you get a lot of analog artifacts. a cd ripper just taked a direct data dump; it all stays digital until you listen. [omjn] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 2 23:25:45 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25348; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:25:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:25:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00c901bf55a1$b36b1be0$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <0.bb1985fe.25a12723@aol.com> <000701bf5577$84bcd420$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> <002101bf5599$58a79c40$35c73dca@alfalfa> Subject: Re: a dumb PC question Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:19:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"D0HGk2.0.Qj5.hD2Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for all the fast responses! I just installed the free version of audiograbber and it's just what I needed. Incidentally, the Windows Sound Recorder wouldn't work for me. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: [o] To: Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 10:19 PM Subject: Re: a dumb PC question > hi > > there are a couple of freeware propgrams for download on the net. > > one is called mp3box and it also has a cd ripper. > > try http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/freeware/95/ > > they might have something, even if ti is demo. if you just record a cd > through line in you get a lot of analog artifacts. a cd ripper just taked a > direct data dump; it all stays digital until you listen. > > [omjn] > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 03:26:15 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA04179; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 03:26:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 03:26:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF55CC.7E490FF0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: New Demo CD-ROM Release ! Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:24:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id DAA02856 Resent-Message-ID: <"DL_I73.0.si.Qm5Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > DOCTOR SAX NEWS (Demo CD-ROM) hi Raul, I'd be delighted to trade ... I could send you a copy of my 'Ambient Veloopity' CD-R if you want. > Fabriqueta #3, Beniarrés 03850, (Alacant), SPAIN is this still your address? My address is still: Michael Peters, Moehlstr. 4, 51069 Koeln, Germany * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 03:46:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10015; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 03:46:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 03:46:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: a dumb PC question Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:40:55 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000701bf5577$84bcd420$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"jdtFc2.0.662.N36Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you're using Windows 9x, get yourself a free version of a program called CDex. It's just the thing. You can convert the files to WAVs or MP3s. | -----Original Message----- | From: Peter Shindler [mailto:shindler@mediaone.net] | Sent: Sunday 02 January 2000 3:17 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: a dumb PC question When I'm playing a CD on my computer (PC), how can I save its | contents (i.e. | the music) as a sound file on the hard drive? Seriously, I | can't figure it From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 09:42:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18643; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:42:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:42:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282DB52@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: AKIA HEADRUSH Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:37:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"WUQdj2.0.zA4.sGBSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, For the looper's I use, I also get some hiss. But I have found that most hiss is in the high end. I use an EQ (from a mackie mixer) to tone down the high end and remove some hiss and can get a decent compromise of less hiss without completely destroying the high end. Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 10:42:08 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04072; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:42:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:42:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Optigans Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:36:19 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <"alOP62.0.Mb.T8CSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Actually, it's really funny: In a 1982 issue of Keyboard magazine they interviewed Mark Motherbaugh of Devo and he talked about the optigon organ. He said that it that at the time it came out, people paid $2,000 for the privilege of owning one, and then they just sat in people's basements for decades. He'd buy them for $20 to $200 and use them. He said the best part was that you could put the optical discs in upside down and backwards so that the banjos would play sucking sounds. He said it was the only keyboard that made him laugh out loud each time he played it. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 11:38:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20692; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:38:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:38:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:32:10 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: our webcast loop show report page Cc: analogue@hyperreal.org Resent-Message-ID: <"g0RPf.0.jX4.HyCSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi loopers, We made last our webcast loop show report page. http://www9.kobedenshi.ac.jp/~s1001232/loop/ teenager looper made it :) we played non digital stuff,tape loop systems with moduler synths only. sorry pictures only, no sounds now. we will make Real Video files soon.i hope.. and I fixed streaming problem for our "LD J" web site. http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/ Live at Barton Hall,Hyogo,Japan 22th Sep '98. Happy New Year 2000 Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 11:44:51 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22344; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:44:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:44:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282DB5E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: live mp3 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:34:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"GDBzL1.0.0l4.P-CSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello Loopers, I have a live mp3 at http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/8/guitarist_denis_taaffe.html which is uses guitar loops live. It's one guitar, guitar loops 9on the fly) and drum machine. no synth's, samplers, tapes,etc... Le me know what you think, if you would. Sound quality is ok. If people do like this one, I also have several additional mp3's I could post. Let me know. thanks Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 13:29:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21762; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:29:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:29:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: alex@cliff.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:26:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: Optigans Resent-Message-ID: <"R4LwL2.0.0s4.wZESu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >He said the best part was that you could put the optical discs in >upside down and backwards so that the banjos would play sucking sounds. Is that really so unusual for a banjo? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 14:37:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07174; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:37:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:37:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000103110453.015ada70@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 11:04:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: Re: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audio processing ? In-Reply-To: <386E8CA9.2495C0E0@engin.umich.edu> References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"MCduc1.0.f7.UDFSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com while the Nord doesn't have much in the way of internal analog delay time, it is great as a companion to another looping device. i have a micro more or less hardwired into a feedback loop with an EDP. with a little attention to levels, it can do some quite nice (or nasty) syncronized munging of the loop. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 17:00:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05165; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:00:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:00:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387117E6.B33C4EDB@engin.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:43:09 -0500 From: Darcy Clark Reply-To: darcyc@engin.umich.edu Organization: MSE, Umich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: anyone on list using Nord Modular synths for audioprocessing ? References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <3.0.5.32.20000103110453.015ada70@mail.well.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iFvK1.0.MT.eVHSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com at around $600, the micro sure is pretty tempting....even if it can't do real looping dan mcmullen wrote: > > while the Nord doesn't have much in the way of internal analog delay time, > it is great as a companion to another looping device. i have a micro more > or less hardwired into a feedback loop with an EDP. with a little > attention to levels, it can do some quite nice (or nasty) syncronized > munging of the loop. > ___ > dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention > mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 > pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF -- --------------------------------------------------- Ph: (734) 764 3377 Email: darcyc@engin.umich.edu URL: http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/ --------------------------------------------------- 'If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate' ..... Steven Wright From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 19:14:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04931; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:14:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:14:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b201bf5648$b8d71280$ca0d1a3f@newmicronpc> From: "James Ko" To: References: <000701bf53d4$704363a0$e0d6fc9e@r5s8s9> Subject: Re: Sitar Sounds out of a Guitar Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:14:50 -0500 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"7dU2S1.0.6W.iaJSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Gary, Thanks a lot for your offer and assistance but unfortunately I will not be available for any music fun for the next several months. I would like to get back to you afterwards, though, and look up any recordings you might suggest as a starting point. Thanks again Jim Ko ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Brain To: Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Sitar Sounds out of a Guitar > James, > > I would be happy to help/answer any questions you might have regarding > Hindustani music. I not a master by any stretch, but would certainly be able > to provide you with a listening list (trade tapes even), give you a brief > high level historical view, provide some simple chalans (structural > foundation of the Rags), provide you with contact information of real > Hindustani teachers, or answer any general questions you may have. > > A word of caution: I started out 10 years ago with a mild curiousity after > reading a Olivier Messiaen interview. I found that the music had no life, > and began a serious study (not with Ali Akbar Khan FYI) of Raga music. 3 > years later I found myself hip deep in practice for 4 hours everyday. What I > am saying is that Raga music can be habit forming *smile*. > > I must admit, the time I have spent studying has paid dividends in regards > to my western compositions, since the western music doesn't stress melody as > strongly (there is no harmony only tonal centers in Hindustani music). Also, > you will find quite a few fascinating theories in regards to musical time > cycles. A great asset to any loop artist. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 19:28:44 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08883; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:28:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:28:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38713C0E.7946AB5D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:17:18 -0500 From: "roguemus@ix.netcom.com" Organization: Rogue Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup References: <000701bf53d4$704363a0$e0d6fc9e@r5s8s9> <00b201bf5648$b8d71280$ca0d1a3f@newmicronpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"KrWVz2.0.Mi1.QqJSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Selling to the high bid 1/6 at 6:23 PM EST. This Jamman is in excellent shape, with foot pedal and manual, current high bid $300. http://auctionsoup.com/index.cfm?Page=item.cfm&ItemID=33497 to view this item. Thanks Dick Michaels Rogue Music NYC http://www.roguemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 20:41:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01580; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.34f09b60.25a2a79b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:11 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"6mSni1.0.tf7.7tKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 20:42:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01611; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:42:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:42:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.45074e8f.25a2a792@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:02 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"s1GtJ3.0.cc7.zsKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 20:54:25 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04923; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:54:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:54:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f3dfdbb8.25a2a78c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:31:56 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"DcLn23.0.Ha7.osKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 20:52:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04777; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:52:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:52:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000103204709.007ae520@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:47:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup In-Reply-To: <0.51e7860a.25a2a790@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"P_gwf1.0.Ap.U4LSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey! Stop it! At 08:32 PM 1/3/00 EST, you wrote: > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 20:55:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05005; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:55:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:55:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.542f61a5.25a2a79d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:13 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"vLqiK3.0.Ne7.3tKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 21:12:46 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09437; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:12:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:12:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b7e4de2c.25a2afd1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:07:13 EST Subject: Buy a Sherman Filter Bank To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.b7e4de2c.25a2afd1_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"j3isS1.0.V12.qNLSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --part1_0.b7e4de2c.25a2afd1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that good looping people didn't mean to stuff your boxes. It was an accident. If you have never checked out the sherman filter bank then drop what you are doing and look it up. It is way better then the warp factory stuff. This is dangerous analog power! --part1_0.b7e4de2c.25a2afd1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (rly-yh04.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.36]) by air-yh05.mail.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:55:31 -0500 Received: from rosy.yourwebhost.com (rosy.yourwebhost.com [209.239.39.1]) by rly-yh04.mx.aol.com (v67.7) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:55:15 -0500 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04983; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:55:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:55:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.542f61a5.25a2a79d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:13 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"vLqiK3.0.Ne7.3tKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --part1_0.b7e4de2c.25a2afd1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:00:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01534; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.31f512b8.25a2a793@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:03 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"RuG5z.0.3b7.ssKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:04:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01552; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.71f9d1e5.25a2a796@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:06 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZO8Nr.0.eb7.usKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:08:06 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01499; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.53e56666.25a2a78e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:31:58 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"8Ozfk3.0.lb7.vsKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:11:07 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01543; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.192e093f.25a2a798@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:08 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"gRzKE2.0.Ec7.xsKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:14:08 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01513; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c10e24bd.25a2a78a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:31:54 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"wqJIF3.0.gZ7.msKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:16:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01553; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.51e7860a.25a2a790@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:00 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"SFm6S1.0.Ra7.osKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:05:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20360; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:05:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:05:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003501bf565e$91ba8d60$8b6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <0.71f9d1e5.25a2a796@aol.com> Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:51:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"b8EP7.0.gf4.A9MSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com would someone who has the power block this fool. this is another case of some newbie aol user that has no idea what he is doing. sorry for the outburst. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:19:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01556; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:41:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1ff9beb2.25a2a799@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:32:09 EST Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"WDROR3.0.2e7.2tKSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:22:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23995; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:22:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:22:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a357dcc.25a2c05b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:17:47 EST Subject: i would like to say sorry To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"h5lcb.0.xZ5._PMSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was going to write a message and got booted from AOL. When I logged back on my AOL was jammed and my send button kept clicking on and off as well as my login screen. I had no idea that this had occurred so many times. I had to force the application to quit and restart my computer (I use a Mac). Well, again I will say I am sorry I hope you will understand. peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 22:40:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28188; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:40:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:40:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001040335.WAA30002@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 10:36:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"IEF0j3.0.NV6.qfMSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yo dave did go postal! :> ---------- >From: "postaldave" >To: >Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup >Date: Mon, Jan 3, 2000, 10:51 PM > >would someone who has the power block this fool. > >this is another case of some newbie aol user that has no idea what he is >doing. > >sorry for the outburst. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 3 23:33:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06829; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:33:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:33:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005601bf566a$d19e5540$8b6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <200001040335.WAA30002@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:18:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"JfxuY2.0.9P1.IRNSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "yo dave did go postal! :>" sorry, i twisted a bolt putting a scope on my new gun and those freaking emails just kept coming, and coming. YOU WOULD GO POSTAL TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 01:35:41 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA05742; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:35:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:35:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001040629.BAA16307@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:31:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Wh1eM3.0.p_.eDPSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hahahahaha ---------- >From: "postaldave" >To: >Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup >Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2000, 12:18 AM > >"yo dave did go postal! :>" > > >sorry, i twisted a bolt putting a scope on my new gun and those freaking >emails just kept coming, and coming. YOU WOULD GO POSTAL TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 02:31:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22036; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:31:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 02:31:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000104072346.68859.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.181.90.210] From: "Greg S" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: DL4 expression example Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:27:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01BF5642.0998C3A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"X7ZL62.0.ss4.h0QSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BF5642.0998C3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Inspired by the "10 secs of recording per day" idea posted here earlier, = I've started capturing a few bits and pieces. I decided to post = something I just captured as an example of the DL4's expression = pedal/morphing capabilities. If you curious what the "morphing" of the = DL4 sounds like, check out these examples http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/LyricLn/xdash/ ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BF5642.0998C3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Inspired by the "10 secs of recording = per day" idea=20 posted here earlier, I've started capturing a few bits and pieces.  = I=20 decided to post something I just captured as an example of the DL4's = expression=20 pedal/morphing capabilities.  If = you curious=20 what the "morphing" of the DL4 sounds like, check out these=20 examples
 
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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01BF5642.0998C3A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 03:02:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA31177; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:02:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:02:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007801bf5717$f32c6320$0e8909d2@mpx.com.au> From: "cameron" To: References: <0.34f09b60.25a2a79b@aol.com> Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:58:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"9OmSo3.0.7D7.ZVQSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not saying much from Boomarang country right now, cause nobody else is. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Jamman on Auctionsoup > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 11:33:27 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09140; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:33:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:33:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1c05b425.25a36a80@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:23:44 EST Subject: Re: Midi Guitars and Guitar Synths To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Resent-Message-ID: <"5WJbJ.0.rr2.g2XSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kevin, Hellay there, and well-met! The fun thing about Synth Guitars is that there are quite a few out there, and a few more which tend to wander in and out of each other's territory. The best tracking of the beasties is going to be from the Starrlabs crowd... Flip side, is that it is really a keyboard in a guitar's clothing, and you loose the guitar portion, outside of the triggers and the "feel." (It uses 6 switches per "fret" along with a set of 6 string triggers to give it the guitar "feel" and open notes). Next up would probably be a RMC equipped guitar (piezo pickups) going through an Axon AX-100 or AX-100SB (has a Yamaha XG Sound board). Followed by a HEX pickup (like a Roland GK-2a or Axon A1X) going through the same brain or converter unit. Other converters out there are the Yamaha G-50, Roland's GR-30, GR-50 and finally the Shadow SH-075 (going in order of tracking speeds). If you're looking for something a bit more plug'n'play try checking out the Parker MIDIFly, BMC's MIDIAccess guitar, Godin's All Access, the Midiaxe, and the occassional Casio MG-510 (I have one of these as a back up, and they're great for slow sounds/lines). The big thing to do is to suss out whether or not you plan on using the guitar as a guitar that can also do synth lines, as just a synthesizer controller, or as a one man band instrument... From there, it is a matter of cost to need and also the issue of how much time you are willing to put into learning the instrument/controls. Whoops, almost forgot it also matters upon what places are nearby which can service your instrument/brain box... (Probably the most important aspect of this). For me, it's worth it to go with the RMC's and drop them into a Jazz guitar (check out http://www.dnai.com/~fatdog/jazz.html for pictures of the instrument) and then run it to a Roland GR-30. Another slight push towards the piezo vs. Hex is that the RMC's honestly track much better than the Hex pickups, and can be used with different types of strings, whereas you have to stay with metal strings for the Hex pickups. Hope this helps out a bit! Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 12:57:37 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08398; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:57:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:57:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Kiene's Fly Shop" To: Subject: DL-4/Zendrum Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"axIsf1.0.y27.knYSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I'm a drummer/percussionist that plays a Zendrum/Alesis DM5 combo. I am new to looping and just purchased a Line6 DL-4 yesterday - I didn't get any sleep last night :))! Just thought I'd share a little newbie enthusiasm... Best regards, Alan. _____________________________ Alan Barnard Digital Percussionist e-drums@pacbell.net http://www.kiene.com/epercussion From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 15:28:31 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22563; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:28:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:28:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000104195524.75081.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.32] From: "Zachary West" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: live mp3 Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 11:55:24 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"tREJh3.0.bp2.D1bSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey ..... for some reason my realplayer wouldn't make a noise when I tried to play it.... It might be one of my connections.... i'll check it out... but tell me if you haved any other problems.....ZW >From: "Taaffe, Denis G" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" >Subject: live mp3 >Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:34:16 -0500 > >Hello Loopers, > > I have a live mp3 at > > http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/8/guitarist_denis_taaffe.html > >which is uses guitar loops live. It's one guitar, guitar loops 9on the fly) >and drum machine. no synth's, samplers, tapes,etc... Le me know what you >think, if you would. Sound quality is ok. If people do like this one, I >also >have several additional mp3's I could post. Let me know. > >thanks >Denis > >Denis Taaffe >denis_aliengtr@geocities.com >http://www.dtguitar.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 15:28:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22525; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:28:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:28:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000104115426.00846d10@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 11:54:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: Bleargh In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"UKp4e2.0.2r2.S1bSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com More info on the "procrastination" software for mac please? At 06:45 AM 12/31/99 -0600, you wrote: >I was looping this morning before I had to go to work (since there was >no milk, cereal, or much of anything else in the house) and had quite >a loop going - interesting, almost sounded like something from 1999, >but was also quite different. I definetely wanted to save it. > >I was attempting to save the file from procrastination, but I stupidly >pressed the save file button twice and it overwrote my interesting 12 >minute loop. Crud. > >Maybe if I get out of here early I can do a loop when I get home. >Having to work today is the pits but that's what you get when you >work in the computer industry. > >I've started a tradition that just before a new year occurs, I create >a loop with the new year as its title. So far I've got 1998, 1999 >and am working on 2000. Fripp is not necessarily the inspiration here. > >I'm using the Procrastination audio looper for the Mac in conjunction >with various guitars through a Mesa studio preamp and a Vortex by way >of a Roland VS-840 workstation into my computer. I suppose I could run >my synths through it as well, or even my voice. > >This gives me: >Procrastination = 4 minutes, stereo delay >Vortex = about 2 seconds >VS-840 = about 2 seconds > >Hey! I just got the new musicians friend catalog - looks like that >ZOOM multi FX is now $89. Is this right? Is that the one with the >4 second delay. > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 16:53:11 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10665; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:53:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:53:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001042145.NAA08492@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:48:57 -0800 Subject: Re: live mp3 From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"T9SRG2.0.vA2.WdcSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I played it w/ no problems...STANNER ---------- >From: "Zachary West" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: live mp3 >Date: Tue, Jan 4, 2000, 11:55 AM > > > Hey ..... for some reason my realplayer wouldn't make a noise when I tried > to play it.... It might be one of my connections.... i'll check it out... > but tell me if you haved any other problems.....ZW > >>From: "Taaffe, Denis G" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" >>Subject: live mp3 >>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:34:16 -0500 >> >>Hello Loopers, >> >> I have a live mp3 at >> >> http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/8/guitarist_denis_taaffe.html >> >>which is uses guitar loops live. It's one guitar, guitar loops 9on the fly) >>and drum machine. no synth's, samplers, tapes,etc... Le me know what you >>think, if you would. Sound quality is ok. If people do like this one, I >>also >>have several additional mp3's I could post. Let me know. >> >>thanks >>Denis >> >>Denis Taaffe >>denis_aliengtr@geocities.com >>http://www.dtguitar.com >> > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 19:25:31 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12531; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:25:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:25:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Curbie" To: Subject: CubaseVST/24 Online Beta Testing Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:46:36 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200001042145.NAA08492@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"1qhW-.0.2x.fYeSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello ! (especially Leo C.) For those who use Cubase VST/24, Steinberg is recruiting users to sign up for their "Rocket Network" Beta testing. It is basically VST/24 users getting together "Online" to collaborate, to build-compose songs in Real Time. For example, you would decide on the players to meet online at a designated time and they would all contribute parts to a song, online, realtime. Just like a Chat Session. I believe one of the feature they will develop is to allow some to log on and just listen in and others participate directly in the creation process. The way I understand it from the demo at NAMM, a ring leader will be appointed "Mixmaster" and rest of the players will contribute parts to the song. Mixmaster then loops, add effects, cuts, and pastes the loops into a complete song. Interesting.. Yes? Check out: http://www.cubase.net for more details. Imagine... Instant collaboration with your buddies in Australia, Germany, USA, Japan, Mars, Neptune... Technology Rules! Curbie From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 18:52:01 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02465; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:52:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:52:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003b01bf570b$e51cf440$3d6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <200001042145.NAA08492@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: live mp3 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:31:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"_AZYp.0.W5.MKeSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "realplayer" i do believe realplayer is the .......well.........the real problem. try winamp. this is a mp3 file. your friendly post man Dave. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 23:13:01 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02706; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:13:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:13:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3872C12E.6C1FAEB9@texas.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:57:41 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 expression example References: <20000104072346.68859.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Okjho1.0.CZ7.z1iSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey greg - nice sounds! thanks for the demo. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 4 23:23:06 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05791; Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:23:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:23:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006401be385f$537cf7e0$0c95f5ce@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:56:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01BE3835.6AA6EFE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"RxXzo1.0.8x7.A9iSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BE3835.6AA6EFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #145 December 30, 1999. On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Robert Rich. His = Allentown concert in 1996 was the first music to be played on EMUSIC. The feature CD at midnight was Seven Veils on the Hearts of Space label. Tonight's show was expanded by one hour as a holiday gift to the listeners. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 11:00 pm Intelligentsia Contact 3.145 Federation (Groove) VA [Steve Baltes] The Way It Sounds Music for the 3rd = Millennium (AMP) AirSculpture Gloria Mundi Fjord Transit (Neu = Harmony) Tony Stoufer The Life of Louie One Swell Foop = (Absolute Obscurity) Cosmic Hoffmann Howling Wolves Beyond the Galaxy = (Heart & Mind) 12:00 am Robert Rich Coils Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) Robert Rich Alhambra Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) Robert Rich Talisman of Touch Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) Robert Rich Book of Ecstasy Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) Robert Rich Ibn Sina Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) Robert Rich Dissolve Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) Robert Rich Lapis Seven Veils (Hearts of = Space) 1:00 am Dave Fulton Hard Particles Hard Particles (Eurock) wEirD Schaltzeit Nachtweit A Different Kind of = Normal (Neu Harmony) Pyramid Peak Sunrise Ocean Drive (Invisible = Shadows) A Produce Clear Pools Reflect Like a Mirror, Respond Like an Echo = (Trance Port) Spacecraft Elder's Mourning Earthtime Tapestry = (Lektronic Soundscapes) Spacecraft Migrations Earthtime Tapestry = (Lektronic Soundscapes) Spacecraft Cycles Earthtime Tapestry = (Lektronic Soundscapes) V. Obmana & J. Pearce True Stories True Stories (Mirage) Robert Carty Touching Atoms * Microspirals (Deep Sky) 2:00 am * =3D exerpt VA =3D Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on the Hypnos label. The Feature CD at Midnight will be Inner Landscapes by Robert Rich. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BE3835.6AA6EFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
EMUSIC, an=20 electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday
at 11 = pm on=20 WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in
Easton, PA = and=20 Phillipsburg, NJ.
 
          &nbs= p;        =20 Show #145  December 30, 1999.
 
On = this show, I=20 concluded the month-long focus on Robert Rich.  His = Allentown
concert in=20 1996 was the first music to be played on EMUSIC.  The feature
CD = at=20 midnight was Seven Veils on the Hearts of Space label.  = Tonight's
show=20 was expanded by one hour as a holiday gift to the=20 listeners.
 

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11:00=20 pm
Intelligentsia         = ;=20 Contact = 3.145           =20 Federation (Groove)
VA [Steve = Baltes]       The=20 Way It Sounds        Music for the = 3rd=20 Millennium=20 (AMP)
AirSculpture        &nbs= p;  =20 Gloria=20 Mundi           &n= bsp;=20 Fjord Transit (Neu Harmony)
Tony=20 Stoufer           = The=20 Life of Louie        One Swell Foop = (Absolute=20 Obscurity)
Cosmic = Hoffmann        =20 Howling = Wolves          =20 Beyond the Galaxy (Heart & Mind)
 
12:00=20 am
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp;=20 Coils           &n= bsp;       =20 Seven Veils (Hearts of Space)
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp;=20 Alhambra           = ;     =20 Seven Veils (Hearts of Space)
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp;=20 Talisman of Touch        Seven Veils = (Hearts=20 of Space)
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp;=20 Book of Ecstasy          = Seven=20 Veils (Hearts of Space)
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp; Ibn=20 Sina           &nb= sp;    =20 Seven Veils (Hearts of Space)
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp;=20 Dissolve           = ;     =20 Seven Veils (Hearts of Space)
Robert=20 Rich           &nb= sp;=20 Lapis           &n= bsp;       =20 Seven Veils (Hearts of Space)
 
1:00 am
Dave=20 Fulton           &= nbsp;=20 Hard = Particles           = Hard=20 Particles=20 (Eurock)
wEirD         &n= bsp;        =20 Schaltzeit Nachtweit     A Different Kind of Normal = (Neu=20 Harmony)
Pyramid=20 Peak           =20 Sunrise           =       =20 Ocean Drive (Invisible Shadows)
A=20 Produce           =    =20 Clear=20 Pools           &n= bsp; =20 Reflect Like a=20 Mirror,
          &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ; =20 Respond Like an Echo (Trance=20 Port)
Spacecraft         =     =20 Elder's Mourning         = Earthtime=20 Tapestry (Lektronic=20 Soundscapes)
Spacecraft        = ;     =20 Migrations          &nb= sp;   =20 Earthtime Tapestry (Lektronic=20 Soundscapes)
Spacecraft        = ;     =20 Cycles           &= nbsp;      =20 Earthtime Tapestry (Lektronic Soundscapes)
V. Obmana & J.=20 Pearce   True=20 Stories           =  =20 True Stories (Mirage)
Robert=20 Carty            = Touching=20 Atoms *         Microspirals = (Deep=20 Sky)
 
2:00=20 am
 
 * =3D=20 exerpt
VA =3D Various Artists (compilation)
 
On the next = EMUSIC, I'll=20 begin a month-long focus on the Hypnos label.
The Feature CD at = Midnight will=20 be Inner Landscapes by Robert Rich.
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01BE3835.6AA6EFE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 00:58:31 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA05481; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 00:58:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 00:58:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000105054818.65412.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [199.179.183.205] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: a dumb PC question Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:48:17 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"7kDF81.0.cc.8jjSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, unless you have some software product like Cool Edit Pro, AudioCatalyst or AudioGrabber, this cannot be done. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Peter Shindler" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com To: Subject: a dumb PC question Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:17:19 -0500 Hi gang. To ring in the new year, I want to submit an early entry for the year's stupidest question. Here goes: When I'm playing a CD on my computer (PC), how can I save its contents (i.e. the music) as a sound file on the hard drive? Seriously, I can't figure it out! Thanks. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 02:44:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01861; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:44:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:44:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001050740.CAA00577@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Apparently-From: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 07:41:44 +0000 Subject: yo dave did go postal! From: "Drew Skyfyre" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bhHQx2.0.M9.1MlSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > "yo dave did go postal! :>" > > > sorry, i twisted a bolt putting a scope on my new gun and those freaking > emails just kept coming, and coming. YOU WOULD GO POSTAL TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let guess, American right ? ;-) - Drew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 06:51:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18986; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:51:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:51:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38732912.685E41DE@eclipse.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 06:20:50 -0500 From: Ken Mistove Reply-To: kmistove@eclipse.net Organization: Kenzak Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Bleargh References: <3.0.6.32.20000104115426.00846d10@pop3.argotech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GaWNK2.0.XJ3.JaoSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > More info on the "procrastination" software for mac please? http://www.eclipse.net/~kmistove/ click the "software" link on the left Have fun! Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 07:35:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28236; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:35:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:35:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Cc: Subject: RE: a dumb PC question Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 04:15:01 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-reply-to: <20000105054818.65412.qmail@hotmail.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"dRkT_1.0.Vl5.WPpSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At ComputingCentral of MSN, http://computingcentral.msn.com/Topics/Multimedia/DBList2.asp?ForumID=11&Cat egoryID=3779 , you'll find lots of files like this. Also, at http://davecentral.com/8966.html you will find a description of a replacement for the file CDFS.VXD which will allow you to read the contents of an audio CD as though they were straight WAVs. Here's the text that comes with it: <> I have it myself and find it magical. But I still found less things going wrong if I *first* copy the WAVs to my hard drive before I use my MP3 encoder to convert the WAVs into MP3s. The only downside I've found to the CDFS.VXD file is that it doesn't retain any song or author information. When the MP3s are created, I have to manually type in the names of the songs, the artists, etc. Otherwise I'd have a bunch of "Track02.MP3" and "Track07.MP3" files. For this I much prefer my CDex program, as it connects to an Internet database that sends me all the song information automatically, then this information is then used to create the MP3s. So I get folders full of MP3s with the titles of the songs, with minimum effort. | -----Original Message----- | From: Devious D_MasterMixer [mailto:dj_devious_d@hotmail.com] | Sent: Tuesday 04 January 2000 9:48 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: a dumb PC question | | | Well, unless you have some software product like Cool Edit Pro, | AudioCatalyst or AudioGrabber, this cannot be done. | | | ----Original Message Follows---- | From: "Peter Shindler" | Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | To: | Subject: a dumb PC question | Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 18:17:19 -0500 | | Hi gang. To ring in the new year, I want to submit an early | entry for the | year's stupidest question. Here goes: | | When I'm playing a CD on my computer (PC), how can I save its | contents (i.e. | the music) as a sound file on the hard drive? Seriously, I | can't figure it | out! | | Thanks. | | | Peter | | | ______________________________________________________ | Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 08:19:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07589; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:19:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:19:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Denis Taafe's loops Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:01:56 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <"W9d952.0.Xj.h3qSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Interesting Denis should show up here. I found his website from looking at Jackson Guitars website (they had a bit on Buckethead getting a new guitar from them with the KFC designs...weird of course) and checked out his site from there and was amazed to hear that not only was he doing the shred guitar thing but also looping. Which brings Denis' music somewhat stylistically close to mine in some ways. Strange. We even look a little alike. I'm getting scared now. I downloaded the SFS.MP3 and sure enough, it was loop city (I think most of you on the list would like it). Check him out. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 09:59:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09089; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:59:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:59:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALDISCON From: "John McCullagh" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-ID: <8025685D.00505BC0.00@morgan.aldiscon.ie> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:37:42 +0000 Subject: Multi-track to Computer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"T4qcq3.0.oL7.qTrSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, This is not directly about Looping, but if anyone knows the answers, they're probably on this list ;-) Has anyone dealt with transfering audio tracks from a digital multi-track (such as a Roland VS-880 or 1680, or ADAT) to a PC via optical or S/PDIF ? Do such multi-track devices have a procedure for exporting each track separately - I did notice that WaveLab mentions "receiving multiple samples" .. is this the way it's done, and do the MTs support that format? Just trying to get a feel for how easy/hard this will be, and if certain devices are better than others for this task. Thanks, John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 11:58:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01817; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:58:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:58:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: RE: Memory for TC 2290 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 00 08:35:59 -0800 x-sender: aideas@mail.consultantalliance.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: ai To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1265032125-112882946@consultantalliance.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"HsXjc3.0.Lv5.yDtSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello All, Does anyone know where one can get the memory upgrade module from the standard 4 secs.to atleast 30 secs. for a TC 2290? Thanks. Ai From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 12:24:53 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13559; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:24:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:24:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Procrastination for Mac Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:04:31 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <"OYIqa2.0.De2.0qtSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone asked about the use of Procrastination (the audio looper) for the Macintosh (Powermac only, btw). Ken Mistove, a user here created this looping tool based on the Max audio processing extensions (although you don't need Max to get it to work, just standalone runtime). Ken stopped development to concentrate on being a musician, but you can still download it (search on his name, I forget the url). On my 6400/180 with 80 megs of ram, I can get amazing results depending on what version I'm using. The lite versions are scaled down, but I can do four one minute loops, one four minute loop, in addition to control of regeneration and the ability to save files as .aiff or sound designer2 files. That's why the new idea of doing 10 or 20 seconds of music a day is so tough here. New years eve I created a 12 minute loop, a 9 minute loop, a 7 minute loop, and then several 3-4 minute loops. I could slice parts of these up and use them as bits for my 20 seconds a day (I already have a title for the proposed CD project...a year in the life (c) 1999 me)...hee. Anyway, check it out. Thank Ken Mistove for making it. It rocks. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 14:32:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20236; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:32:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:32:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:19:15 -0500 X-Sender: paulpop@mail.delanet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Paul Poplawski, Ph.D." Subject: Re: Procrastination for Mac Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id OAA11876 Resent-Message-ID: <"McTvi2.0.vv2.savSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com where can I get it? >Someone asked about the use of Procrastination (the audio looper) for >the Macintosh (Powermac only, btw). > >Ken Mistove, a user here created this looping tool based on the Max >audio processing extensions (although you don't need Max to get it >to work, just standalone runtime). > >Ken stopped development to concentrate on being a musician, but you >can still download it (search on his name, I forget the url). > >On my 6400/180 with 80 megs of ram, I can get amazing results depending >on what version I'm using. > >The lite versions are scaled down, but I can do four one minute loops, >one four minute loop, in addition to control of regeneration and the >ability to save files as .aiff or sound designer2 files. > >That's why the new idea of doing 10 or 20 seconds of music a day is so >tough here. New years eve I created a 12 minute loop, a 9 minute loop, >a 7 minute loop, and then several 3-4 minute loops. > >I could slice parts of these up and use them as bits for my 20 seconds >a day (I already have a title for the proposed CD project...a year in >the life (c) 1999 me)...hee. > >Anyway, check it out. Thank Ken Mistove for making it. It rocks. ƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒƒ Paul Poplawski, Ph.D. email = ppoplawski@state.de.us or paulpop@ssnet.com phone (service) = 302/737-4491 weekday office = 302/577-4980 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 15:22:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13893; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:22:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:22:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873A5ED.D49DC468@node.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 15:13:33 -0500 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: > - - node - - < X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: relations@gibson.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com CC: prod@trace-elliot.com, relations@gibson.com, prod@trace-elliot.com Subject: Whither Echoplex? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ASReB3.0.tX2.7QwSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings. In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely, mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!) pushed back to the spring. It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail) and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, of practices as much as product development. I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir! Very truly yours, James Keepnews From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 16:08:31 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05292; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:08:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:08:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001b01bf57bd$e60e5e40$506fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <200001050740.CAA00577@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: yo dave did go postal! Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:46:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"DzozO1.0.kR7.j-wSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com why yes i am American. *you way know us from such wars as World War I, World War II, and others around the world. **double side note, most of those solders work for the post office now. did you know that looping was used in the Vietnam war? > "yo dave did go postal! :>" > > > sorry, i twisted a bolt putting a scope on my new gun and those freaking > emails just kept coming, and coming. YOU WOULD GO POSTAL TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let guess, American right ? ;-) - Drew From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 16:20:35 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11409; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:20:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:20:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873B336.4587E423@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:10:14 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kmistove@eclipse.net CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Bleargh References: <3.0.6.32.20000104115426.00846d10@pop3.argotech.net> <38732912.685E41DE@eclipse.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kpHbP.0.Fd1.iExSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Please Ken , er, ah, a pc version? someday I spend all my money on gear and can't get a Mac yet.....ah someday...... jd Ken Mistove wrote: > > More info on the "procrastination" software for mac please? > > http://www.eclipse.net/~kmistove/ > > click the "software" link on the left > > Have fun! > > Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 16:13:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07653; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:13:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:13:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873B17D.CF6521E7@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:02:53 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: live mp3 References: <200001042145.NAA08492@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <003b01bf570b$e51cf440$3d6fc8d0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fSfej.0.mp.Y8xSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com also sometimes downloading mp3s w/ a browser can cause problems, I alway use Gozilla, its free and works better for resuming downloads that get disconected or such. my2cents, jd ....it played great for me w/ Winamp. Real Player sucks in my opinion but I use it anyway for G2 files.....xtra cent and a half, heh jd postaldave wrote: > "realplayer" i do believe realplayer is the .......well.........the real > problem. try winamp. this is a mp3 file. > > your friendly post man Dave. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 16:13:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07544; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:13:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:13:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873B2FD.20CCAE3@subnet.virtual-pc.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:09:17 +0000 From: david cooper orton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: my 2000 References: <01BF5396.D866AA70.mpeters@csi.com> <386FC49F.FEA236B3@quik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YbefC2.0.Fw.d9xSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I, too, rather like this idea, but as I arrived home from holidays too late to start from day one, I'll focus on a minute each week, arriving hopefully at 52 minutes by Dec 31st. Similar sort of result though. And it gives added impetus to working out what the Line 6 DL4 can do (they arrived in the UK just before Christmas - how convenient...) Cheers David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 16:38:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20528; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:38:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:38:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jeffrey_D_Morris@eFunds.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: DELUXE CORPORATION To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Message-ID: <8825685D.0075C976.00@noteserv.etcscan.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:26:31 -0800 Subject: DL4 Stereo Looping Question/Answer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=K5EO4Uvr7TAKjejFObFOT1dQNP9UdNyUFdg47otUHRVKupDne6CmBr8e" Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"QQ7Mt3.0.kr3.0WxSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --0__=K5EO4Uvr7TAKjejFObFOT1dQNP9UdNyUFdg47otUHRVKupDne6CmBr8e Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The following question was answered by Line6 tech support: Regarding the DL4, is all output mono in Loop Sampler mode? >Yes If not, how do I get stereo output from stereo input? >Not possible. The Looper asigns all available memory to mono for longer loop time. Stereo would mean --0__=K5EO4Uvr7TAKjejFObFOT1dQNP9UdNyUFdg47otUHRVKupDne6CmBr8e Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =BD the time. patrick.stefurak@line6.com Customer Support Happy New Year. May your output level increase higher than ever. ;-> = --0__=K5EO4Uvr7TAKjejFObFOT1dQNP9UdNyUFdg47otUHRVKupDne6CmBr8e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 17:10:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04613; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:10:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:10:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3873ACBD.D6C98FBC@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:42:37 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Multi-track to Computer References: <8025685D.00505BC0.00@morgan.aldiscon.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4XGMF1.0.aH.M-xSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com if you mean transferring several tracks *simultaneously*, then as far as i know you'll need multiple outputs on the multitracker and multiple inputs on the pc audiocard. i don't know of any protocol for serial transmission of multiple tracks - anyone else? if you only have two inputs on your audiocard and you wish to transfer the tracks separately, you can try using SMPTE or MTC and transfer the tracks two at a time in sync with the stuff you've already transferred. anyway, i'm dealing with similar problems myself (transferring analog signals) so i've decided to get the ews88mt audiocard c& breakoutbox from terratec: 8 analog inputs 8 analog outputs (separate i/o) digital i/o (s/pdif) midi i/o 24 bit (internal 32 bit) 96 kHz (who needs that?) has anyone tried this? is appears to be great for the price (approx. $500US) rob John McCullagh wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > This is not directly about Looping, but if anyone knows the answers, they're > probably on this list ;-) > > Has anyone dealt with transfering audio tracks from a digital multi-track (such > as a Roland VS-880 or 1680, or ADAT) to a PC via optical or S/PDIF ? Do such > multi-track devices have a procedure for exporting each track separately - I did > notice that WaveLab mentions "receiving multiple samples" .. is this the way > it's done, and do the MTs support that format? > > Just trying to get a feel for how easy/hard this will be, and if certain devices > are better than others for this task. > > Thanks, > John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 17:38:51 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19470; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:38:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:38:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000105222254.61303.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.82] From: "G716 - Greg S." To: References: <8825685D.0075C976.00@noteserv.etcscan.com> Subject: Re: DL4 Stereo Looping Question/Answer Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:23:10 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"PDDy12.0.Gm2.WHySu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >Not possible. The Looper asigns all available memory to mono for longer loop > >time. Stereo would mean 1/2 the time It would be nice to see this as an *option -- at 1/2 speed you'd get 14 or so seconds of stereo looping. I could live with that. Greg * with all the "options" this group has come up with, I'm sure we'd quickly turn the low $200 device into a $500 pedal in no time.... but then again, it'd be worth it..... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: DL4 Stereo Looping Question/Answer > The following question was answered by Line6 tech support: > > Regarding the DL4, is all output mono in Loop Sampler mode? > > >Yes > > If not, how do I get > stereo output from stereo input? > > >Not possible. The Looper asigns all available memory to mono for longer loop > time. Stereo would mean ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ½ the time. patrick.stefurak@line6.com Customer Support Happy New Year. May your output level increase higher than ever. ;-> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 17:51:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26177; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:51:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:51:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873C5C8.6657E952@best.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 14:29:28 -0800 From: Allan Hoeltje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: keepnews@node.net CC: relations@gibson.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex? References: <3873A5ED.D49DC468@node.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8aiXA3.0.aH5.kYySu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Being as this is America, the land where everyone can sue anyone for any reason and generally expect to win, how about we all get a lawyer and file a suite against Gibbon for _not_ selling a product? Just an idea. Maybe I _am_ becoming a cynic and not just being cynical. Had this product been available I would surely have bought two of them by now. Sorry, I am at work, my Piece 'o Chit Windoze machine is giving me a hard time, my cat is sick and I am grumpy. James, keep up the good fight! My local Guitar Center has the Line 6 DL4 on "sale" for $385. Didn't someone here have a link for a place that was selling them for around $220? Allan James Keepnews wrote: > Greetings. > > In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely, > mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions > regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately > unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson > on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division > would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning > of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!) > pushed back to the spring. > > It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my > understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays > on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the > light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical > enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without > a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am > forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product > development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail) > and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best > disinfectant, of practices as much as product development. > > I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular > stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is > brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that > the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir! > > Very truly yours, > James Keepnews From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 17:59:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31492; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:59:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:59:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'kameleyon'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: broken Echoplex footpedal Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:43:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"QvD8T2.0.-r6.QjySu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I know that GUITAR CENTER have a number of EDP foopedals in their chain one can buy. Just no EDP's themselves... David Kirkdorffer -----Original Message----- From: kameleyon [mailto:kameleyon@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:54 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: broken Echoplex footpedal Hello fellow loopers, been a while since I last posted... Anyway, the _second_ Oberheim Echoplex footpedal that I have owned has broke like the first one...it just died and quit sending any signal to the rack unit. Have there been many other reports of the Echoplex footpedal dying like this? What can I do/buy/yell at so that I can get a working, dependable footpedal for my 'plex? Thanks guys! _________________________________ Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Bassist, Composer, Teacher http://www.chameleonsound.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 18:33:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14707; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:33:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:33:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873D3A3.4D40FCB5@texas.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:28:36 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Procrastination for Mac References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"C2xvD.0.tt2.yBzSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.eclipse.net/~kmistove/ "Paul Poplawski, Ph.D." wrote: > where can I get it? > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 17:44:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22865; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:44:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:44:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873C794.B45D24BD@engin.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:37:35 -0500 From: Darcy Clark Reply-To: darcyc@engin.umich.edu Organization: MSE, Umich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: vortex for auction on digibid References: <008f01bf5394$4dfc2a60$de95f5ce@-> <386CF285.D7B9545B@quik.com> <386E6AD1.78974D2D@bellsouth.net> <3.0.5.32.20000103110453.015ada70@mail.well.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wBMBa1.0.Eb4.NUySu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.digibid.com/auctions/items/7185.htm currently price $105 Note : I am not selling it so don't email me about it. Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 18:47:34 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19949; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:47:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:47:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000105184112.007a96a0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:41:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: yo dave did go postal! In-Reply-To: <001b01bf57bd$e60e5e40$506fc8d0@computer> References: <200001050740.CAA00577@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"lKMzc3.0.r64.3QzSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 03:46 PM 1/5/00 -0500, you wrote: >did you know that looping was used in the Vietnam war? OK, I'll bite. How was it used? Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 18:58:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24026; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:58:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:58:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873DA0A.5250AF81@texas.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 17:55:58 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Bleargh References: <3.0.6.32.20000104115426.00846d10@pop3.argotech.net> <38732912.685E41DE@eclipse.net> <3873B336.4587E423@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"H3Xtc2.0.oG5.NbzSu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com c'mon jeff, you pc fellas have acid; 'bout time someone does something superhip for mac only. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 20:07:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18942; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:07:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:07:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3873E8F9.2297768F@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:59:38 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Bleargh References: <3.0.6.32.20000104115426.00846d10@pop3.argotech.net> <38732912.685E41DE@eclipse.net> <3873B336.4587E423@bellsouth.net> <3873DA0A.5250AF81@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_ix_a2.0.C24.wb-Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com heh, you got me bobdog... ok check out my first attempt at an Acid composition...at http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Balcony/3906/ a.mp3 or you can get the RA version at the Spaced Oddities section at, http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html but I still want procratination,wahh (crying sounds) jd Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory wrote: > c'mon jeff, you pc fellas have acid; 'bout time someone does something > superhip for mac only. > > bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 21:01:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16723; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:01:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:01:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701bf57e8$64076a60$beb7bace@default> From: "Gerry P" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000104115426.00846d10@pop3.argotech.net> <38732912.685E41DE@eclipse.net> <3873B336.4587E423@bellsouth.net> <3873DA0A.5250AF81@texas.net> <3873E8F9.2297768F@bellsouth.net> Subject: Tech help needed : EDP "Record Button" dead on f/s Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:50:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Disposition-Notification-To: "Gerry P" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"tfBrD3.0.8w2.2M_Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The "record button" on my EDP foot switch just died. ( The front panel buttons of my two EDP's all work - but I get no response from the f/s "record" button. I am assuming that based on what I saw inside the foot switch, the fix appears to be replacing the "button pod". Are these "button-pods" available anywhere? This button-pod is the only one without a resistor - I was wondering if I could temporarily switch this "button-pod" with the "Next Loop" one without screwing things up - i.e. having the dead one at the end of the chain? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gerry gerryp@air.on.ca Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what no one else has thought. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 21:29:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30762; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:29:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:29:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <99.990b5305.25a55647@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:21:59 EST Subject: Re: New Demo CD-ROM Release ! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"2dnTh3.0.jd6.mn_Su"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/2/00 9:55:09 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, rauboto@dragonet.es writes: << DOCTOR SAX NEWS (Demo CD-ROM) >> yo raul.........send me one of those puppies!............:)..........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 22:02:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15947; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:02:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:02:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007b01bf57f0$2e774840$506fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <200001050740.CAA00577@rosy.yourwebhost.com> <3.0.5.32.20000105184112.007a96a0@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: yo dave did go postal! Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:46:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"e6lcF2.0.O_2.JG0Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 03:46 PM 1/5/00 -0500, you wrote: >did you know that looping was used in the Vietnam war? OK, I'll bite. How was it used? Tim remember Nixon and all those tapes he made.........well.........what do you think he did with all of them? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 22:17:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23730; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:17:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:17:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <47.477c944c.25a56054@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:04:52 EST Subject: Re: i would like to say sorry ...I've been there... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"wKRh71.0.vJ4.yP0Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I know how embarrasssing this is, it's happened to me three times when using the AOL browser. Sometimes I'll fire up Netscape when posting to bulletin boards or group lists, etc. The worst part is everybody talks about the goof and forgets what you had asked or what you were trying to say... eric p echo park In a message dated 00-01-03 22:22:40 EST, you write: << I was going to write a message and got booted from AOL. When I logged back on my AOL was jammed and my send button kept clicking on and off as well as my login screen. I had no idea that this had occurred so many times. I had to force the application to quit and restart my computer (I use a Mac). Well, again I will say I am sorry I hope you will understand. >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 5 22:28:03 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28444; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:28:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:28:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000106032201.40985.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.33] From: "Zachary West" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Anyone help me??? Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:22:00 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"1yw853.0.RH6.xf0Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Problem...... I having trouble with my SU700.... the internal effects are giving me some trouble.... I can't seem to get any to work... the system effects are fine, just the internal effects... anyone got any ideas... I know that Loopers-D says that the SU700 isn't a complete looping machine... and I know what ya mean.. but i just got started and I am really getting pissed off that I cant get internal effects working. Someone drop me a line... or even a number to call so I can bitch out yamaha.... please.... thank you Zachary W. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 04:42:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA16004; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:42:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:42:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 01:19:05 -0800 From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Memory for TC 2290 In-reply-to: <1265032125-112882946@consultantalliance.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ynYST1.0.YF1.qu5Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hello All, > >Does anyone know where one can get the memory upgrade module from the >standard 4 secs.to atleast 30 secs. for a TC 2290? Thanks. > >Ai I don't think you can get it anymore. The parts it used have been obsolete for several years now. tc stopped selling the memory some time ago... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 06:24:51 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA26845; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:24:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:24:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3874F748.B396BEDC@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 12:12:56 -0800 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Anyone help me??? References: <20000106032201.40985.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Qdofy.0.J56.Be7Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com perhaps this link will connect you to some knowledgeable people http://www.teklab.com/forums/ Claude Zachary West wrote: > > Problem...... I having trouble with my SU700.... the internal effects are > giving me some trouble.... I can't seem to get any to work... the system > effects are fine, just the internal effects... anyone got any ideas... I > know that Loopers-D says that the SU700 isn't a complete looping machine... > and I know what ya mean.. but i just got started and I am really getting > pissed off that I cant get internal effects working. Someone drop me a > line... or even a number to call so I can bitch out yamaha.... > please.... thank you > Zachary W. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 06:34:23 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA30522; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:34:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:34:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jo@numerica.it Message-ID: <004a01bf5838$b594bd60$5a2726d4@h2v6p1> To: Subject: Boss VF-1 (V-family effects ?) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:24:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF5840.FB4AD580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"QrSqu.0.MT6.0i7Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF5840.FB4AD580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know anything about this new half/rack m.effects box from Boss, = so I don't know if it could be useful to loop some sounds or not, but I = would try to ask if someone did already try it or not. Here is the reason of my interest: I own a Roland VS 840 EX and also tried a VG-8, on them both there are = really interesting modulation, bass simulators and noise effects for = which I was waiting for a Roland release of an effect box with those = effect's taste. Does anybody know if VF-1 could be this one? Thanks=20 Luca ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF5840.FB4AD580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know anything about this new = half/rack=20 m.effects box from Boss, so I don't know if it could be useful to loop = some=20 sounds or not, but I would try to ask if someone did already try it or=20 not.
Here is the reason of my = interest:
I  own a Roland VS 840 EX and also = tried a=20 VG-8, on them both there are really interesting modulation, bass = simulators and=20 noise effects for which I was waiting for a Roland release of an = effect box=20 with those effect's taste.
Does anybody know if VF-1 could be this = one?
 
Thanks
Luca
 
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01BF5840.FB4AD580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 07:35:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24704; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 07:35:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 07:35:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002601bf58d0$719698c0$248909d2@mpx.com.au> From: "cameron" To: References: <8825685D.0075C976.00@noteserv.etcscan.com> <20000105222254.61303.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DL4 Stereo Looping Question/Answer Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:31:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"wx-8S.0.2J5.gh8Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Regarding the DL4 (Low $200 Device). I got a price for one today in Boomarang country (Australia), and it was $700. Just imagine how much a new Echoplex would be if they ever came out again. Or a T.C. Electronics 2290. Gee I'm so happy to be from Boomarang country. ----- Original Message ----- From: G716 - Greg S. To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 2:23 PM Subject: Re: DL4 Stereo Looping Question/Answer > > >Not possible. The Looper asigns all available memory to mono for longer > loop > > >time. Stereo would mean 1/2 the time > > It would be nice to see this as an *option -- at 1/2 speed you'd get 14 or > so seconds of stereo looping. I could live with that. > > Greg > > * with all the "options" this group has come up with, I'm sure we'd quickly > turn the low $200 device into a $500 pedal in no time.... but then again, > it'd be worth it..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:26 PM > Subject: DL4 Stereo Looping Question/Answer > > > > The following question was answered by Line6 tech support: > > > > Regarding the DL4, is all output mono in Loop Sampler mode? > > > > >Yes > > > > If not, how do I get > > stereo output from stereo input? > > > > >Not possible. The Looper asigns all available memory to mono for longer > loop > > time. Stereo would mean > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > ½ the time. > > > patrick.stefurak@line6.com > Customer Support > > Happy New Year. May your output level increase higher than ever. ;-> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 08:28:34 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA17989; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:28:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:28:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looping in Vietnam Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 07:22:32 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <"Dc4wu1.0.Wk3.3T9Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I suspect PsyOps (psychological operations) personnel played tape loops on helicopter loudspeakers to frighten and weaken the enemy. I have a transcription of just such a loop right here: "WORK WORK WORK THERE ARE MONKEYBOYS IN THE BUILDING WORK WORK WORK JOHN WORPHIN IS GOOD JOHN ENDON IS BAD WORK WORK WORK THERE ARE MONKEYBOYS IN THE BUILDING." Apologies. Ken Mistove's URL has been posted several times, I won't bother with another. His software still rules though. It's just way too easy to come up with this amazing layered thing and record it. I just wish there was an easier way to know the results are actually being recorded. -t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 09:04:06 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03258; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:04:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:04:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Lotus-FromDomain: ALDISCON From: "John McCullagh" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-ID: <8025685E.004CABB8.00@morgan.aldiscon.ie> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:57:26 +0000 Subject: DigiTech RP21d - Looper Mode? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"jM1x91.0.pz7.0-9Tu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, I've used a DigiTech RP7 for looping, and it makes a basic, but easy to use looper up to 3.5 seconds. I was reading the manual for the RP21d off the web, and notice that it has a function called "Sampler" which says "samples can be layered, and may be put in loop mode". This sounds very nice, and appears to have all the parameters of a Boomerang, but it makes no mention of the loop length anywhere. The "Delay" function specifies 1.4 seconds of memory, but that's less than the RP7, and not practical for stacking loops! The RP14d doesn't have this feature, but it does have "Learn-a-Lick" which records 12 seconds of input, and automatically loops it. Does anyone own one of these, and might be able to describe its usefulness (or otherwise) as a looper? Regards, John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 10:04:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30404; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:04:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:04:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000106144545.87995.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.218.213.31] From: "George Washington" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: DL4 Question Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 08:45:45 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"mImRY.0.hs5._gATu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am in search for the 200 dollar line 6 dl4 anyone know where it is at. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 10:10:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00313; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:10:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:10:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001201bf5856$0ea83680$376fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <004a01bf5838$b594bd60$5a2726d4@h2v6p1> Subject: FS:Y2K overstock Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:55:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF582C.24BDFF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"2R7M92.0.TQ7.xxATu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: 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=00&=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00&=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00&=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00= &=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00&=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00&=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00&= =00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00&=00n=00b=00s=00p=00;=00 =00=0D=00=0A= =006=00 = =00P=00i=00t=00b=00u=00l=00l=00s=00<=00/=00F=00O=00N=00T=00>=00<=00/=00D=00= I=00V=00>=00<=00/=00B=00O=00D=00Y=00>=00<=00/=00H=00T=00M=00L=00>=00=0D=00=0A= =00 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BF582C.24BDFF60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 10:55:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22541; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:55:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:55:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3874B785.2B812D3B@node.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:40:53 -0500 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: > - - node - - < X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Kirkdorffer CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"tDuzs3.0.X44.dWBTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You _go_ , David -- the Loopers/United/Will ever be repeated/The Loopers/United/&c. _________________________________________________________________ ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < _________________________________________________________________ David Kirkdorffer wrote: > Additional EDP Greetings. > > I too am ever-hopeful to hear about the fate of the much missed Echoplex > Digital Pro (EDP). > > Indeed, with only a page on the little Loopers-Delight web-site maintained > by Kim Flint, one of the EDP's software developers at Aurisis Research, I > have gathered a list of over 150 people who are awaiting to purchase over > 200 units of this cool tool! > > Previous "rumors" of August, September, and November production re-start > dates have all sadly passed and proven to be false. > > In that time, companies like AKAI, LINE6, and tc.electronics each have added > new looping devices to the market. And other companies like Boomerang have > updated their offerings. > > Further, there is talk of creating EDP "Kits" rather than waiting for Gibson > to get it together, which would very much undercut the likely pricing from > Trace Elliot. > > So, dear readers, please know that the EDP is a well-loved, product that > offers musicians the potential to boldly go where no looper has gone before. > > David Kirkdorffer > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Keepnews [mailto:keepnews@node.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:14 PM > To: relations@gibson.com; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Cc: prod@trace-elliot.com; relations@gibson.com; prod@trace-elliot.com > Subject: Whither Echoplex? > > Greetings. > > In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely, > mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions > regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately > unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson > on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division > would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning > of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!) > pushed back to the spring. > > It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my > understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays > on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the > light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical > enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without > a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am > forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product > development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail) > and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best > disinfectant, of practices as much as product development. > > I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular > stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is > brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that > the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir! > > Very truly yours, > James Keepnews From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 11:01:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25503; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:01:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:01:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000106155247.50413.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.218.213.31] From: "George Washington" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Novice needs advice Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 09:52:47 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"Uf_sv1.0._95.qfBTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just wanted to know if any one was still looping with frippertronics? Because I figure I can find two revoxes for around 300 stick a Dl4 and vortex in front of them run the outputs to my mixer my mixer into my Edp and loop to my hearts content. Also there were some postings about in what order to arrange effects? I would like to ask what effects specifically would be good for basic sound scapes? Is there a better all purpose modulation effect that the vortex? Dose anybody think the erogenous moan would be a good choice a volume because it also offers backwards tape effect as well? I really dont know much about effects so can anyone recommend a good all purpose volume/ expression/ wha to get, as i think I would need them for the vortex and the dl4(should I ever get that much money)? Thanks Oh you all should definitely check out The Pefftronics rendomizer it is the craziest little piece of joy you ever ran across. . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 10:46:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17849; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:46:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:46:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'James Keepnews'" , relations@gibson.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: prod@trace-elliot.com Subject: RE: Whither Echoplex? Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 10:17:21 -0500 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Reply-By: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:00:00 -0500 X-Message-Flag: Follow up MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"JR-Dn2.0.232.NHBTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Additional EDP Greetings. I too am ever-hopeful to hear about the fate of the much missed Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP). Indeed, with only a page on the little Loopers-Delight web-site maintained by Kim Flint, one of the EDP's software developers at Aurisis Research, I have gathered a list of over 150 people who are awaiting to purchase over 200 units of this cool tool! Previous "rumors" of August, September, and November production re-start dates have all sadly passed and proven to be false. In that time, companies like AKAI, LINE6, and tc.electronics each have added new looping devices to the market. And other companies like Boomerang have updated their offerings. Further, there is talk of creating EDP "Kits" rather than waiting for Gibson to get it together, which would very much undercut the likely pricing from Trace Elliot. So, dear readers, please know that the EDP is a well-loved, product that offers musicians the potential to boldly go where no looper has gone before. David Kirkdorffer -----Original Message----- From: James Keepnews [mailto:keepnews@node.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:14 PM To: relations@gibson.com; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: prod@trace-elliot.com; relations@gibson.com; prod@trace-elliot.com Subject: Whither Echoplex? Greetings. In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely, mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!) pushed back to the spring. It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail) and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, of practices as much as product development. I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir! Very truly yours, James Keepnews From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 12:04:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23869; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:04:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:04:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004c01bf5866$6f503860$9c91bc3e@default> Reply-To: "Gareth Whittock" From: "Gareth Whittock" To: Subject: Re: Re:deliverance, PC looping. reverb loops Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:52:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"i9QWc.0.l45.XcCTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>did you know that looping was used in the Vietnam war? >> >OK, I'll bite. How was it used? >> I thought postaldave was being ironic here. >> >>remember Nixon and all those tapes he made.........well.........what do you >>think he did with all of them? Perhaps not. Maybe it's a cultural thing but I musit admit I was shocked to think of a looper with a gun. I thought you were all gentle, creative souls!!! I suppose you could always use the barrel to hold a tape loop. I didn't get the reference to soldiers becoming postal workers either. Is there some subtext about uniform fetish? Incidentally, anyone who's intersted in procrastination for the PC, why don't you use Audiomulch- As many 1 minute stereo loops as you can shake a stick at, series or parallel. I bring mine in and out with midi footswitches. I've had 5 stereo's going so far, then I ran out of foot switches! And another thing:- I often use reverb plugin, (set to infinite regeneration) as a looper with Audiomulch to build up textures. Does anyone else do this here? It can be done in hardware too. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 12:04:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23874; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:04:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:04:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00c301bf5866$ad85aa70$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Tech help needed : EDP "Record Button" dead on f/s Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:54:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"rQ-_H1.0.Zk4.JbCTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >The "record button" on my EDP foot switch just died. ( The front panel >buttons of my two EDP's all work - but I get no response from the f/s >"record" button. This button, since it is used most frequently, seems to fail before the others. First and foremost, read http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html >Are these "button-pods" available anywhere? Exact replacements are available from Mouser or Jameco. I can get you the part number if you like. However, any momentary normally open pushbutton will work. When I built several EDP footswitches I preferred a different style for the RECORD. I choose a larger button from Radio Sh***. I think it's easier to see and "feel" with my foot that way. >This button-pod is the only one without a resistor - I was wondering if I >could temporarily switch this "button-pod" with the "Next Loop" one without >screwing things up - i.e. having the dead one at the end of the chain? I'd just fix what is broken rather that risk breaking what isn't. Through if you HAD to you could short around the resistor temporarily. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Good luck. Hope this helps. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 13:46:04 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07946; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:46:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:46:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3874D570.DE81C83D@texas.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:48:33 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 Question References: <20000106144545.87995.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mJcTJ.0.Kl2.yIDTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com alto music is where i got mine for $200 http://www.altomusic.com/ have fun! bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 13:33:46 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02339; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:33:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:33:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000106171454.26886.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.82] From: "G716" To: References: <20000106144545.87995.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: DL4 Question Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:14:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF5826.7E3DE3D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Resent-Message-ID: <"aCwSu1.0.P77.ssCTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF5826.7E3DE3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached are the instructions for the Looper's Delight group discount I organized through Alto Music. enjoy, Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Washington" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:45 AM Subject: DL4 Question > > > > I am in search for the 200 dollar line 6 dl4 anyone know where it is at. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF5826.7E3DE3D0 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="____ Line6 DL4 Group Buy Final Details ____.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="____ Line6 DL4 Group Buy Final Details ____.eml" >From loopers-delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 2 14:38:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25737; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:39:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:39:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991202222039.26302.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.70] From: "G716" To: Cc: "ALTO MUSIC" Subject: >>>> Line6 DL4 Group Buy Final Details <<<< Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:20:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0239_01BF3CD0.69906C80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"K7V2Q3.0.xF5.v3lHu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/10624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0239_01BF3CD0.69906C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Everyone: the work has paid off. Jon at Alto Music has come through = again. They have DL4's in stock and can ship right away. Line6 DL4: $200 Line6 Adapter: $18=20 (note - this is not a wall wart, but rather a "pregnant" extension cord. = i.e. it'll only take up one space on your power strip) How to order: Go to http://www.altomusic.com=20 On the left side of the web page click "contact us". Fill out the form and say you are from the "loopers list". My browser did not indicate that the web page is using secure = encryption, so if you're concerned about putting in a credit card = number, I've asked Jon to provide a phone number that we can call. Thanks to Legion for all his efforts researching = options as well. Off to order my own shortly... Greg p.s. If you get 2 copies of this it's because I BCC'd everyone who = specifically requested an update. ------=_NextPart_000_0239_01BF3CD0.69906C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Everyone:  the work has paid = off.  Jon at=20 Alto Music has come through again.  They have DL4's in stock and = can ship=20 right away.
 
Line6 DL4: $200
Line6 Adapter: $18
(note - this is not a wall wart, but = rather a=20 "pregnant" extension cord.  i.e. it'll only take up one space on = your power=20 strip)
 
How to order:
Go to http://www.altomusic.com 
On the left side of the web page click = "contact=20 us".
Fill out the form and say you are from = the "loopers=20 list".
My browser did not indicate that = the web=20 page is using secure encryption, so if you're concerned about = putting in a=20 credit card number, I've asked Jon to provide a phone number that we can = call.
 
Thanks to Legion <legion@voicenet.com> for all = his=20 efforts researching options as well.
 
Off to order my own = shortly...
Greg
 
p.s. If you get 2 copies of this it's = because I=20 BCC'd everyone who specifically requested an = update.
------=_NextPart_000_0239_01BF3CD0.69906C80-- ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01BF5826.7E3DE3D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 14:18:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22772; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:18:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:18:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Weird. DJ-70 found. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:50:10 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <"1QcIl1.0.UR2.9GETu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone on this list was looking for a Roland DJ-70 synth/dj workstation a while ago. The Mars Music in Bloomington is selling a clean used one - you might want to call them to see if they still have it. Just passing the info on. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 15:36:05 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23109; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:36:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:36:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <010401bf5882$d655c040$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Weird. DJ-70 found. Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:15:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"CL47V3.0.Ap3.GYFTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >The Mars Music in Bloomington is selling a clean used one - you might want >to call them to see if they still have it. Which Bloomington? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 16:03:08 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03664; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:03:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:03:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:34:41 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: DL4 Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <002b01bf5885$7561c6a0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"3q3_s2.0.PD.y6GTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does the DL4 have a hold function like the Boss Digital Delay pedals (dd3 & dd5)? Also is there a way to raise or lower the pitch of a loop like on the Boss Delay pedals? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 16:01:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03248; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:01:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:01:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:30:57 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: Re: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Novice needsadvice To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <001101bf5884$f03389a0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: <20000106155247.50413.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"k-y7L2.0.us7.a3GTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What is the The Pefftronics rendomizer? ----- Original Message ----- From: George Washington To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 10:52 AM Subject: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Novice needsadvice > > Just wanted to know if any one was still looping with frippertronics? > Because I figure I can find two revoxes for around 300 stick a Dl4 and > vortex in front of them run the outputs to my mixer my mixer into my Edp and > loop to my hearts content. Also there were some postings about in what order > to arrange effects? I would like to ask what effects specifically would be > good for basic sound scapes? Is there a better all purpose modulation effect > that the vortex? Dose anybody think the erogenous moan would be a good > choice a volume because it also offers backwards tape effect as well? I > really dont know much about effects so can anyone recommend a good all > purpose volume/ expression/ wha to get, as i think I would need them for the > vortex and the dl4(should I ever get that much money)? > Thanks > Oh you all should definitely check out The Pefftronics rendomizer it is the > craziest little piece of joy you ever ran across. > . > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 16:07:04 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05879; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:07:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:07:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38757FC6.890F7558@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 21:55:18 -0800 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Noviceneedsadvice References: <20000106155247.50413.qmail@hotmail.com> <001101bf5884$f03389a0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OR5sP3.0.Om.4AGTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com George McConnell wrote: > > What is the The Pefftronics rendomizer? > a Troposat nonibator RTFM Claude :=))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 16:49:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24651; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:49:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:49:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Bad-Idea: su; rm -rf / X-Blasphemy: Invert me under my stars. Message-Id: <4.1.20000106142202.00a7f100@realm-of-shade.com> X-Sender: reverendrob@realm-of-shade.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 14:27:09 -0700 To: From: the Reverend Rob Subject: Re: Re:deliverance, PC looping. reverb loops In-Reply-To: <004c01bf5866$6f503860$9c91bc3e@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"pOEQQ2.0._u3.tbGTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At or around 04:52 PM 1/6/00 +0000, Gareth Whittock wrote: >Maybe it's a cultural thing but I musit admit I was shocked to think of a >looper with a gun. I both have a gun and carry it regularly; hell, I'm a looper, a member of the Chamber of Commerce, and an all-around doer of evil. >I thought you were all gentle, creative souls!!! Being creative, in my case, has nothing to do with being "gentle"; I don't make reassuring background noise for airports. >I suppose you could always use the barrel to hold a tape loop. No thanks..you have any idea how little fun it is to get the residue from tape off of a rough steel barrel? >I didn't get the reference to soldiers becoming postal workers either. Former military personnel in the US get preferential hiring for gov't jobs. >I often use reverb plugin, (set to infinite regeneration) as a looper with >Audiomulch to build up textures. >Does anyone else do this here? It can be done in hardware too. I used to do something similar with my first tape echoplex; the record head fried at one point and I was too lazy to fix it as long as I wiped the tape clean before a show...it'd create blistering white noise out of what was being put into it after about a half-hour, but in that half-hour, it was a fascinating instrument just by itself. == the Reverend Rob ICQ: 1280871 Yahoo: theReverendRob http://www.realm-of-shade.com .`. .`. .`. .`. http://www.qblh.com ================================================================= "I prefer not to kill people, but I'd like to destroy as much property as possible." - Grace Slick, from the Airplane FBI file ================================================================= http://www.realm-of-shade.com/music : feedback and echo MP3s From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 16:55:07 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27078; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:55:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:55:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002401bf588c$7d52b020$576fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: References: <002b01bf5885$7561c6a0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> Subject: DL4 ~~~~~V/S~~~~~~~~~the Boomerang????? Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:24:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"hVZB11.0.TP4.wfGTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com DL4 ~~~~~V/S~~~~~~~~~the Boomerang????? anyone out there care to compare the two??????? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 18:35:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05716; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:35:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:35:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:50:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: AM8000R on Harmony Central Resent-Message-ID: <"_bc7p.0.fB4.ukHTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Don't mail me! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I have the following for sale: Korg AM800R effects processor. Dual channel stereo F/X unit. Tons of crazy and useful algos, great for ANY type of music. Warp knob on the front panel for quick tweaking, killer midi control, AWESOME sound! Mint condition, w/manual, power supply, and original box. Asking $300 + shipping. No trades please. Dont miss out! I anxiously await your responses. Thanx, Brooks Seller: brooks rongstad, 612-871-0204 E-mail: mrbrooksy@hotmail.com (Profile) Location: MINNEAPOLIS, MN Post Date: 1/6/2000 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 18:41:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08516; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:41:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:41:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: rob@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <387521A8.D15F9FA3@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 00:13:45 +0100 From: Robert van der Kamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: DL4 delay times: I dont get it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"seteW3.0.hg6.F4ITu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi folks, Yet another DL4 question. The difference between stereo delay time (2.5 secs) and mono looper delay time (14 secs) puzzles me. From what I read in the manual on the net (don't own a DL4 yet), the stereo delay is high quality 24 bit true stereo. Using that RAM for the looper would result in 5 secs mono time, and yet we are given 14 secs instead. That extra delay time can be explained with: 1: the looper delay RAM and stereo delay RAM are not shared. 2: the looper delay signal has a lower quality, e.g. 16-bit 30Khz sample rate, or whatever. Option 1 seems stupid, so the big question is: HOW'S THE LOOP QUALITY COMPARED TO THE STEREO DELAY? Thanks, Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 19:27:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30267; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:27:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:27:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38752F7C.D5C17088@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 19:12:44 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Noviceneedsadvice References: <20000106155247.50413.qmail@hotmail.com> <001101bf5884$f03389a0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> <38757FC6.890F7558@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8DDbo1.0.aw5.-_ITu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I believe you can upgrade that w/ a serrenagator ferracrystal v1.0 Claude Voit wrote: > George McConnell wrote: > > > > What is the The Pefftronics rendomizer? > > > a Troposat nonibator > > RTFM > > Claude > > :=))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 19:50:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09691; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:50:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:50:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:38:42 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: DL4 ~~~~~V/S~~~~~~~~~the Boomerang????? Resent-Message-ID: <"0L-YK2.0.lX.zKJTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >DL4 ~~~~~V/S~~~~~~~~~the Boomerang????? > >anyone out there care to compare the two??????? Well, the DL4's got a pretty tough molded aluminum case and recesssed plastic knobs, but I'd give the edge in face-to-face combat to the boomerangs steel case. Plus, the boomerang just looks tougher, none of that sissy green gloss paint... Actually, I have both, and probably won't part with either. While in theory, the boomies got the edge with 4minutes or so of sampling time, I personally don't really use loops longer then 10-15 secs, so the DL-4's 14/28 seconds are fine. The interface of the DL can be confusing if you're used to the boomie, ie., on the boomie you hit "record" to start recording and "record" again to stop recording and start playback, doing that on the DL puts it into overdub mode. The DL's use of the same button for reverse and speed change is semi-confusing at first, but isn't hard to get used to. For me, the real great thing about the DL is the other delay models. I absolutely love the tape delay emulations and the reverse delay. The different emulations all have really different non-linear feels at high regeneration levels, the thing feeds back in very cool ways. I think the DL-4 in loop mode is higher fidelity than the boomerang, but I also find the digital grunge of the boomerang sounds pretty musical. Now the 2 of them inline is a lotta fun: 4Xspeed, 2Xoctave bass loops, yum... ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 19:41:21 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04423; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:41:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:41:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001070015.TAA14280@ibm1.exotrope.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 19:16:12 -0500 Subject: 1st looper From: "Schindler" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3030030972_103135_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <"InrHy1.0.a_5.d0JTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3030030972_103135_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I buy the Akai Headrush or Line6 DL4? and why? Thanks. Aaron --MS_Mac_OE_3030030972_103135_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable 1st looper I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I buy the Akai Headrush = or
Line6 DL4? and why?
Thanks.

Aaron --MS_Mac_OE_3030030972_103135_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 19:57:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12933; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:57:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:57:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000106164422.0084f300@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:44:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: 1st looper In-Reply-To: <200001070015.TAA14280@ibm1.exotrope.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"jflI03.0.Ns1.KTJTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Here I am again, touting the DL-4. The headrush is a cool box, but if you have experience with some of the other 'high end' units like the EDP or JamMan, the Headrush will seem a bit noisy and simplistic. When i tried out the Headrush, i was like "oh well, no reason to buy when I have my Jam Mans." with the DL-4, you get the Looper and soooooo much more. I tried it and bought it right away. Try both (if you can) and see which one works best for you! later, rich At 07:16 PM 1/6/00 -0500, you wrote: > I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I buy the Akai Headrush or > Line6 DL4? and why? > Thanks. > > Aaron From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 19:53:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11450; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:53:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:53:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000106164016.0084c410@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:40:16 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: DL4 delay times: I dont get it In-Reply-To: <387521A8.D15F9FA3@wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"qKYN5.0.YB1.TPJTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't have an answer for why the Looper does 14 and we only get 2.5 on the delays, but IMO, both the looper and delays on the DL-4 sound terrific. I am not an audiophile into all the specs and such, but this is one of the best sounding stompbox delays I have ever heard. Also, I think this pedal is designed to be used as live stompbox, with enough sound quality to be used in the studio, if need be. I know i've strapped my other stompboxes (with less sound quality) into my effect loop of my studio setup when I needed it, so I will definitely use this. Also, I think this unit holds its own in it's own right. I wouldn't sell an EDP, JamMan, or even a Boomerang to trade for a DL-4 (note: the DL4 smokes the 'rang in sound quality, especially for seamless, atmospheric loops). However, I have two JamMans, and guess whats right in front of it in my live setup? later, rich ps. the modulation modeler from line6 is due any day now...is it off topic to banter about the new one when it hits the stores? I'm definitely getting one...I have an awesome old Mutron Biphase i can't wait to A/B with the MM4. At 12:13 AM 1/7/00 +0100, you wrote: >Hi folks, > >Yet another DL4 question. The difference between stereo delay time (2.5 secs) >and mono looper delay time (14 secs) puzzles me. From what I read in the >manual on the net (don't own a DL4 yet), the stereo delay is high quality 24 >bit true stereo. Using that RAM for the looper would result in 5 secs mono >time, and yet we are given 14 secs instead. That extra delay time can be >explained with: > >1: the looper delay RAM and stereo delay RAM are not shared. >2: the looper delay signal has a lower quality, e.g. 16-bit 30Khz sample > rate, or whatever. > >Option 1 seems stupid, so the big question is: HOW'S THE LOOP QUALITY >COMPARED TO THE STEREO DELAY? > >Thanks, >Robert > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 20:13:27 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19631; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:13:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:13:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000107010204.2387.qmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:02:04 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Jones Subject: Loopers on ACID To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"6_Uca2.0.Zd3.FiJTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Fellow looper looking for possible collaboration for some MP3.Com product Looking for people able to record some overlay tracks onto some of my sorry ass ACID tunes. Especially interested in intrumentation other than guitar/keyboard as that is what I try to do. Bass, violin, cello, voice, horns, woodwinds, accordian, bagpipes, noise, tape, etc. Serious musicans need not apply. Lo-fi ok, prefer goofiness to serious musicianship. Funky beats good. Apply privately, and will send some samples. Thanks, Randy Jones http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/8/next_to_nothing.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 20:46:23 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00924; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:46:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:46:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <1c.1c18fbab.25a69ca9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:34:33 EST Subject: Re: Boss VF-1 (V-family effects ?) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 66 Resent-Message-ID: <"cipCZ1.0.Ax6.DBKTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/6/00 6:34:23 AM, jo@numerica.it writes: >I own a Roland VS 840 EX and also tried a VG-8, on them both there are >really interesting modulation, bass simulators and noise effects for which >I was waiting for a Roland release of an effect box with those effect's >taste. > >Does anybody know if VF-1 could be this one? > > I'd say it is...it includes a Bass Simulation effect, plus lots of "dance" effects like isolator, lo-fi, vocorder, chopper. It's pretty much a collection of their recent effects from the guitar, recording, and groove catalogs. The only link to the VG-8 is its COSM guitar-amp/speaker modeling, so it is more like the GT-5, GP-100, etc. , and includes many of the fx from these devices, like a feedbacker, slowgear, pickup and acoustic simulator, guitar mono-synth, etc. None of the very cool VG-8 fx are included. I've got one, so if you have any more questions, ask away...and, no it's not much of a looper, since there's no hold function, even tho some of the delays go to 2800ms. dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 22:14:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08715; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:14:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:14:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991231082724.007a8230@pop.ici.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19991230210053.007a9220@pop.ici.net> <386BEBB8.89C5B073@best.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:45:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: Boston New Years Conceptual Computer Looping Resent-Message-ID: <"2syRC1.0.p97.DHLTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>From yesterday's Boston Globe: > >_____________________________________________________________________________ > > Apocalypse Now: Y2K Pops > > Techno artists William Tremblay and Rob Gonsalves hit their conceptual >mother lode when First Night production director Gina Mullen urged them to >come up with a proposal for the millennial shindig. > After all, says Tremblay, "this was going to be the big one." > Cogitating about what to propose, they cast a wary eye at our era's >version of apocalypse: Y2K. > "This time last year, there was a spate of news stories about how the >world would end. Elevators would plummet, things like that," says Tremblay. >"We felt it was highly overrated, and a bald-faced marketing strategy to >get everybody to buy a new PC." > In fact, says Gonsalves, "The average Joe at home using Word and Excel >won't run into any problems. Most applications don't care what the date is." > Tremblay and Gonsalves decided to test the doomsayers' theory - while >still making merry. They've collected 101 older computers, dating from 1987 >to 1992, most of which are not Y2K compliant. Each has been programmed to >sound like a particular musical instrument; together, all 100 will sound >like an orchestra. Each will also project a visual element corresponding to >the musical note it plays. Starting at 1 p.m. at the Hynes Convention >Center and going until 1 a.m., Y2K Pops will play a loop of 15 songs under >the guidance of a robot, called the "semi-conductor." > At midnight, any number of the computers may come down with the >millennial bug. Gonsalves and Tremblay plan to monitor all the hardware and >software, and to see what hits the double-zero wall and what passes through >it when 1999 gives way to 2000. Boom or bust, it ought to be a good show. >______________________________________________________________________________ > >We now return to our regularly-scheduled topic, furry kangaroo loopers... Sounds great! Did anyone make it to this? Reviews? Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 21:47:04 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28412; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:47:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:47:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003701bf58b5$a50bc4c0$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <1c.1c18fbab.25a69ca9@aol.com> Subject: another dumbass PC question Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:19:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"NuQkk1.0.E94.1sKTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You were all so helpful with the last stupid question I put to you... I want to run my amp into my soundcard so I can turn some of my guitar sounds into WAV files. I tried running a 1/4" cord into the back of the PC, and it worked but was so quiet that I had to turn every volume knob in sight all the way up to hear anything, and it still wasn't much. Am I missing something? Thanks! Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 22:13:04 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07385; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:13:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:13:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Bad-Idea: su; rm -rf / X-Echoplex: Sound on Sound Activated X-Prerequisite-Blasphemy: Invert me under the stars Message-Id: <4.1.20000106194554.00dabc60@realm-of-shade.com> X-Sender: reverendrob@realm-of-shade.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 19:46:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: the Reverend Rob Subject: Re: another dumbass PC question In-Reply-To: <003701bf58b5$a50bc4c0$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> References: <1c.1c18fbab.25a69ca9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kzgs9.0.py6.tELTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On or around 09:19 PM 1/6/00 -0500, Peter Shindler said: >You were all so helpful with the last stupid question I put to you... > >I want to run my amp into my soundcard so I can turn some of my guitar >sounds into WAV files. I tried running a 1/4" cord into the back of the PC, >and it worked but was so quiet that I had to turn every volume knob in sight >all the way up to hear anything, and it still wasn't much. Am I missing >something? Your soundcard should have some sort of mixer utility which allows you to set the gain of the incoming signal and make adjustments. Consult your PC's manual or your local pc technician. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 22:13:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07940; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:13:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:13:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.b7e4de2c.25a2afd1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:44:44 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: Buy a Sherman Filter Bank Resent-Message-ID: <"MbiYk.0.d37.bGLTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Sorry about that good looping people didn't mean to stuff your boxes. >It was an accident. >If you have never checked out the sherman filter bank then drop what you are >doing and look it up. It is way better then the warp factory stuff. This is >dangerous analog power! This is a great unit, though a bit pricey..... I love mine.... Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 23:22:23 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06001; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:22:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:22:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001b01bf58c6$468bd000$e0368218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Clifford Bosephius Alexander" To: References: <1c.1c18fbab.25a69ca9@aol.com> <003701bf58b5$a50bc4c0$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> Subject: Re: another dumbass PC question Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:18:37 -0800 Organization: Fat Cat Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"zkdOs.0.X31.BZMTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Double Click on the speaker icon, select options, select properties, select recording- make sure you have the correct input enabled and turn it up- that might help- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Shindler" To: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:19 PM Subject: another dumbass PC question > You were all so helpful with the last stupid question I put to you... > > I want to run my amp into my soundcard so I can turn some of my guitar > sounds into WAV files. I tried running a 1/4" cord into the back of the PC, > and it worked but was so quiet that I had to turn every volume knob in sight > all the way up to hear anything, and it still wasn't much. Am I missing > something? > > Thanks! > > > Peter > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 23:53:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10186; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:31:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:31:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000107041353.52100.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.218.207.205] From: "George Washington" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: pefftronics Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 22:13:53 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"zaQgD1.0.9e.bWMTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Pefftronics randomizer is in the harmony central effect database under Pefftronics. They give a much better description than I can >From: George McConnell >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Novice >needsadvice >Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 15:30:57 -0500 > >What is the The Pefftronics rendomizer? > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: George Washington >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 10:52 AM >Subject: Any one using analog tape reel to reels for looping+ Novice >needsadvice > > > > > > Just wanted to know if any one was still looping with frippertronics? > > Because I figure I can find two revoxes for around 300 stick a Dl4 and > > vortex in front of them run the outputs to my mixer my mixer into my Edp >and > > loop to my hearts content. Also there were some postings about in what >order > > to arrange effects? I would like to ask what effects specifically would >be > > good for basic sound scapes? Is there a better all purpose modulation >effect > > that the vortex? Dose anybody think the erogenous moan would be a good > > choice a volume because it also offers backwards tape effect as well? I > > really dont know much about effects so can anyone recommend a good all > > purpose volume/ expression/ wha to get, as i think I would need them for >the > > vortex and the dl4(should I ever get that much money)? > > Thanks > > Oh you all should definitely check out The Pefftronics rendomizer it is >the > > craziest little piece of joy you ever ran across. > > . > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 6 23:54:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16125; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:54:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:54:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: DJ-70 Follow-up Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:48:30 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <"-_bgV1.0.aY3.91NTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry! It's in Bloomington, Minnesota. Or was as of a few days ago. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 00:10:25 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10004; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:30:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 23:30:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401bf5955$d837efe0$b68909d2@mpx.com.au> From: "cameron" To: References: Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:26:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"PB6tM1.0.vo1.bgMTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: David Kirkdorffer To: 'James Keepnews' ; ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 7:17 AM Subject: RE: Whither Echoplex? > Additional EDP Greetings. > > I too am ever-hopeful to hear about the fate of the much missed Echoplex > Digital Pro (EDP). > > Indeed, with only a page on the little Loopers-Delight web-site maintained > by Kim Flint, one of the EDP's software developers at Aurisis Research, I > have gathered a list of over 150 people who are awaiting to purchase over > 200 units of this cool tool! > > Previous "rumors" of August, September, and November production re-start > dates have all sadly passed and proven to be false. > > In that time, companies like AKAI, LINE6, and tc.electronics each have added > new looping devices to the market. And other companies like Boomerang have > updated their offerings. > > Further, there is talk of creating EDP "Kits" rather than waiting for Gibson > to get it together, which would very much undercut the likely pricing from > Trace Elliot. > > So, dear readers, please know that the EDP is a well-loved, product that > offers musicians the potential to boldly go where no looper has gone before. > > David Kirkdorffer > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Keepnews [mailto:keepnews@node.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:14 PM > To: relations@gibson.com; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Cc: prod@trace-elliot.com; relations@gibson.com; prod@trace-elliot.com > Subject: Whither Echoplex? > > > Greetings. > > In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely, > mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions > regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately > unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson > on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division > would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning > of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!) > pushed back to the spring. > > It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my > understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays > on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the > light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical > enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without > a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am > forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product > development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail) > and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best > disinfectant, of practices as much as product development. > > I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular > stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is > brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that > the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir! > > Very truly yours, > James Keepnews > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 00:38:15 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01956; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:38:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:38:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38757B23.F03123E5@texas.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 23:35:34 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: 1st looper References: <200001070015.TAA14280@ibm1.exotrope.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7yvxM2.0.gs7.lfNTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I buy the Akai Headrush or > Line6 DL4? line 6 dl-4 > and why? it's an awesome barrel of monkeys. funfunfun. the coolest stompbox i've played in ages. i like it. or..........get both, you don't need food this week. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 02:29:26 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24042; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:29:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:29:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38759134.93@cnetix.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 01:09:40 -0600 From: Hung Viet Nguyen Reply-To: hungn@cnetix.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Lexicon Vortex and Emu Morpheus FOR SALE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5sgeK1.0.ev.S6PTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For Sale: Lexicon Vortex with footswitch and manual. Excellent condition. $250 Emu Morpheus. Excellent condition. $350 E-mail me at hungn@cnetix.com if interested. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 03:02:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA22986; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:02:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:02:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <382659622.947230337580.JavaMail.root@web13.mail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Thomson, Dublin IE" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Korg AM8000R / DL8000R confusion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.164 Resent-Message-ID: <"cwW841.0.Qt6.3QPTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi there... I hope nobody is getting these two Korg boxes mixed up? They both look nearly the same, with the same case, knobs, and display, but they're very different internally. The AM8000R is a multi-FX box biased towards reverbs, but with only 512ms of delay time per channel. The box I have, the DL8000R, has 400ms pre-delay + 4800ms main loop time per channel, and can cascade the channels for a mono 10 second delay. It also has the rhythmic loop functions with sync to an external MIDI clock or audio trigger. Reviews of both can be found at http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Korg/ Cheers, folx, Brian Thomson, Dublin IE bnt@email.com Brian Thomson, Dublin IE bnt@email.com (ceci n'est pas un .sig) ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 02:57:50 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13507; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:57:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:57:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381667707.947230532551.JavaMail.root@web08.pub01> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 02:35:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian Thomson, Dublin IE" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: another dumbass PC question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 207.122.110.164 Resent-Message-ID: <"Z06oC.0.BT.7TPTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have you checked all the settings on the software mixer? If you use the standard Windows 9x "Volume Control" mixer, recording levels are set only after you select the "Recording" option in the Properties dialogs... Cheers, Brian Thomson, Dublin IE bnt@email.com Brian Thomson, Dublin IE bnt@email.com (ceci n'est pas un .sig) ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 04:04:11 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24862; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:04:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:04:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF58F6.5A1A10C0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Cc: "'raül bonell tomàs'" Subject: AW: New Demo CD-ROM Release ! Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:02:09 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id DAA20194 Resent-Message-ID: <"zP1wu1.0.by4.QhQTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Raül Bonell Tomàs wrote, > Just to announce my new release ! > DOCTOR SAX NEWS (Demo CD-ROM) > realtime treatments, loops, chapman stick, > warr guitar, drum programming, samples & found sounds > http://www1.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News just want to recommend this CD to everyone. I just got my copy and I'm excited! A great variety of fresh ideas ... fat rhythms, lush atmospheres and loops, abstract soundscapes and collages ... not only the tappers among you will love this but every looper who is into adventurous listening! * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 07:06:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA30423; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:06:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:06:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: rob@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <3875BEC9.90EC7BD7@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:24:10 +0100 From: Robert van der Kamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: DL4: Overdub->Play without stopping? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mhOnd.0.zt.izSTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi list, On the DL4, can one move from Overdub mode (with audio slowly fading away) to Play mode (without decay, right?) without stopping the unit? In other words, can I press the Record/Overdub switch to stop Overdub mode and enter Play mode? After a couple of overdubs, I want the unit to repeat the loop forever, without decay, until I want to layer again. I don't want to stop the unit, of coarse, to get this done. The manual is not clear at this point. Thanks for any info, Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 08:04:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10170; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:04:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:04:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b901bf590d$1a99d7c0$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <381667707.947230532551.JavaMail.root@web08.pub01> Subject: Re: another dumbass PC question Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:45:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"9Hyx_2.0.zD2.T0UTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fantastic! That's all it took. Unbelievable... Thank you so much! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Thomson, Dublin IE To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:35 AM Subject: Re: another dumbass PC question > Have you checked all the settings on the software mixer? If you use the standard Windows 9x "Volume Control" mixer, recording levels are set only after you select the "Recording" option in the Properties dialogs... > > Cheers, > > Brian Thomson, Dublin IE > bnt@email.com > Brian Thomson, Dublin IE > bnt@email.com > > (ceci n'est pas un .sig) > > ----------------------------------------------- > FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com > Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 09:55:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06017; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:55:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:55:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3875AEA1.1C988EA4@gis.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:15:22 +0100 From: Paul Sullivan Reply-To: paulsull@gis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: alesis midiverb II Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nmPWr3.0.qp.TJVTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After years of faithful service my Alesis Midiverb II is finally getting too noisy to use live because of hum (all the time), and scratchy pots (especially the mix pot, which has been used much more than any other on the unit). I'm looking to replace it with another Alesis unit but I've become very fond of a couple of presets; namely the "bloom" reverse reverbs #45 and #49. Does anyone on this list familiar with this unit know if these presets are on some of the newer models like the nanoverb, microverb, (I'd like to go to a half space rack if possible),or midiverb III, IV, quadraverb, etc.? Thanks, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 11:07:01 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18242; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:07:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:07:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:58:08 -0600 Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex? From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38760737.644316C6@node.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8CnA32.0.Kk1.vqWTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Am I to understand that they're producing the EDP in England now? Doesn't bode well for stateside pricing. TH > > Trace Elliot Ltd wrote: > >> Dear James, >> >> sorry you didn't get a reply to the last e-mail. >> >> I have the first completed Echoplex on my desk which was shown and approved >> by Gibson in the US just before Christmas. I only have one slight delay in >> getting it into production, that being the programming of the PALs. This >> will be resolved on Tues of next week when a specialised chip programming >> machine arrives, it will then be full steam ahead and they should be >> shipping within a few weeks. I won't bore you with the details of the >> problems I have had converting this unit from US to UK production but a lot >> of it has to do with similar problems experienced by NASA with the Mars >> probe! It has not been quite as costly for us to carry out the conversion >> and I can see no more problems, (fingers crossed!) >> All the best, >> Andy Ewen >> R&D Manager. >> >> Trace Elliot Contact Information >> ************************************* >> Trace Elliot (UK) Ltd >> Blackwater Trading Estate >> The Causeway >> Maldon >> Essex >> United Kingdom >> CM9 4GG >> >> Tel: +44 (0)1621 851851 >> Fax: +44 (0)1621 851932 >> ----- Original Message ----- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 11:13:08 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26752; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:13:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:13:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Alan Barnard" To: Cc: Subject: RE: DL4: Overdub->Play without stopping? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 07:50:52 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3875BEC9.90EC7BD7@wxs.nl> Resent-Message-ID: <"sevPG1.0.o57.IkWTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > On the DL4, can one move from Overdub mode (with audio slowly > fading away) to Play mode (without decay, right?) without > stopping the unit? In other words, can I press the Record/Overdub > switch to stop Overdub mode and enter Play mode? > > After a couple of overdubs, I want the unit to repeat the loop > forever, without > decay, until I want to layer again. I don't want to stop the > unit, of coarse, to get this done. The manual is not clear > at this point. Hi Robert, Yes, this can be accomplished seamlessly with one tap. You can also go back to overdubbing from "play" in the same manner. I've only had my DL4 for a short time and I've found this function to be very intuitive. Best regards, Alan. ________________________________ Alan Barnard e-drums@pacbell.net http://www.kiene.com/epercussion From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 11:14:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28178; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:14:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:14:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38760737.644316C6@node.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:33:11 -0500 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: > - - node - - < X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trace Elliot Ltd CC: relations@gibson.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, prod@trace-elliot.com Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex? References: <3873A5ED.D49DC468@node.net> <026201bf5922$21514e80$5500a8c0@traceelliot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eEi6M.0.5A1.dVWTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hot diggity dog, as we used to say in finishing school -- thank you for your reply and your thoughtful explanation of some of the issues that have held up production. Had a reply this thorough been sent from some authorized Gibson representative some months ago, it might have led to less demonstrative reliance upon demand-side economic strategies, to say nothing of pissy e-mails from me. And speaking of demand-side, how can I get mine? Thank you again, Andy, and good luck shepherding this incomparable unit into the next century. _______________________________________________________________________ ~ > -- James Keepnews -- < "Put oneself into a state of intense (.-.) * ignorance and curiosity, and yet ( \ > - Multimedia Yahoo - < see things in advance." - * " > keepnews@node.net < -- Robert Bresson (1901-1999) _______________________________________________________________________ Trace Elliot Ltd wrote: > Dear James, > > sorry you didn't get a reply to the last e-mail. > > I have the first completed Echoplex on my desk which was shown and approved > by Gibson in the US just before Christmas. I only have one slight delay in > getting it into production, that being the programming of the PALs. This > will be resolved on Tues of next week when a specialised chip programming > machine arrives, it will then be full steam ahead and they should be > shipping within a few weeks. I won't bore you with the details of the > problems I have had converting this unit from US to UK production but a lot > of it has to do with similar problems experienced by NASA with the Mars > probe! It has not been quite as costly for us to carry out the conversion > and I can see no more problems, (fingers crossed!) > All the best, > Andy Ewen > R&D Manager. > > Trace Elliot Contact Information > ************************************* > Trace Elliot (UK) Ltd > Blackwater Trading Estate > The Causeway > Maldon > Essex > United Kingdom > CM9 4GG > > Tel: +44 (0)1621 851851 > Fax: +44 (0)1621 851932 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Keepnews > To: ; > Cc: ; ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:13 PM > Subject: Whither Echoplex? > > > Greetings. > > > > In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely, > > mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions > > regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately > > unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson > > on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division > > would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning > > of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!) > > pushed back to the spring. > > > > It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my > > understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays > > on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the > > light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical > > enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without > > a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am > > forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product > > development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail) > > and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best > > disinfectant, of practices as much as product development. > > > > I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular > > stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is > > brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that > > the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir! > > > > Very truly yours, > > James Keepnews > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 11:27:06 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14643; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:27:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:27:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000107080212.00850100@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 08:02:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: DL4: Overdub->Play without stopping? In-Reply-To: <3875BEC9.90EC7BD7@wxs.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"cN3bh.0.bu3.bwWTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, once you close the loop (either by hitting the Play button, or the Record button), you can toggle back and forth between overdubbing and not overdubbing. The loop continues regardless, until you stop it (or it fades away through overdub mode...which is a loooong time) rich At 11:24 AM 1/7/00 +0100, you wrote: >Hi list, > >On the DL4, can one move from Overdub mode (with audio slowly fading away) to Play mode (without decay, right?) without >stopping the unit? In other words, can I press the Record/Overdub switch to stop Overdub mode and enter Play mode? > >After a couple of overdubs, I want the unit to repeat the loop forever, without >decay, until I want to layer again. I don't want to stop the unit, of coarse, to get this done. The manual is not clear >at this point. > >Thanks for any info, > >Robert > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 12:42:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20768; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:42:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:42:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38762112.7D0E2AE1@quik.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:23:30 -0800 From: "Rev. Doubt-Goat" Reply-To: dgoat@sekhetmaat.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: my 2000 References: <01BF5396.D866AA70.mpeters@csi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uULa22.0.-_.9BYTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 93 Michael Peters wrote: > > yesterday a friend of mine (Karsten Schulze, a keyboard player from > Cologne/Germany) came up with a cool idea: > > His personal goal for 2000 is to create and record 10 seconds of music > every day. Just like a diary entry, but very short. 10 seconds each day sum > up to 3650 seconds, or about 1 hour of music at the end of the year, > consisting of 365 small bits. I have setup an email group for those who wish to pursue this project and communicate about it. To subscribe, send a message to my2k-subscribe@egroups.com, or if that doesn't work, email me directly at dgoat@quik.com 93 Fr. Doubt-Goat +++ +++++ +++ Sekhet-Maat Oasis, O.T.O. http://www.sekhetmaat.com +++ +++++ +++ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 12:39:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15354; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:39:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:39:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: rob@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <387622BB.70366693@wxs.nl> Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 18:30:35 +0100 From: Robert van der Kamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4: Overdub->Play without stopping? References: <3875BEC9.90EC7BD7@wxs.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uc--P.0.Gh7.F8YTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Robert van der Kamp wrote: > Hi list, > > On the DL4, can one move from Overdub mode (with audio slowly fading away) to Play mode (without decay, right?) without > stopping the unit? In other words, can I press the Record/Overdub switch to stop Overdub mode and enter Play mode? > > After a couple of overdubs, I want the unit to repeat the loop forever, without > decay, until I want to layer again. I don't want to stop the unit, of coarse, to get this done. The manual is not clear > at this point. > > Thanks for any info, > > Robert Thanks guys. Now I want one. :-) Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 13:04:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19668; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:04:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:04:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000107175751.75499.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [129.64.72.138] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Pefftronics Randomizer Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 09:57:51 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"RFkde.0.bq2.0bYTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Pefftronics Randomizer and many other wacky effects may be heard at Tonefrenzy.com- where there is a page full of MP3 and RealAudio demos. I just discovered this site and it seems to be a great resource. If you are curious about the sound of just about any pedal you can download a high quality recording of the site ops experimentation with a wide variety of off-beat pedals. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 13:03:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18108; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:03:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:03:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 11:41:50 -0600 Subject: Re: 1st looper From: Travis Hartnett To: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38757B23.F03123E5@texas.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VHTkx3.0.Et4.eLYTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com One feature that the Headrush has that neither the Boomerang nor DL-4 has is the option to undo all overdubs after the establishment of the initial loop. TH > >> I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I buy the Akai Headrush or >> Line6 DL4? > > line 6 dl-4 > >> and why? > > it's an awesome barrel of monkeys. funfunfun. the coolest stompbox i've > played in ages. > > i like it. > > or..........get both, you don't need food this week. > > bobdog > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 18:34:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05253; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:34:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:34:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <83.8371593f.25a7d00c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:26:04 EST Subject: Re: Pefftronics Randomizer To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"mk4E7.0.Wp6.oOdTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/7/00 4:03:37 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, seanwitters@hotmail.com writes: << The Pefftronics Randomizer and many other wacky effects may be heard at Tonefrenzy.com >> sean........a very nice site.........thanks..........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 20:19:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08233; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:19:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:19:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: rob@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <38768FF5.F8C25C02@wxs.nl> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 02:16:37 +0100 From: Robert van der Kamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: How to handle multiple loopers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Hxsjt3.0.9o.6zeTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I'm thinking of working with 2 (or maybe even more) loopers at once to increase the chaos effect. I was wondering how to deal with that. How does one route the signals through the loopers? Parallel, in series, switch box? Any tips? Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 21:40:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12935; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:40:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 21:40:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: "Sean Dimond (racer.x productions)" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Eventide Trade? Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:31:23 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Resent-Message-ID: <"zT3JM2.0.DR1.j8gTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com know this is a long shot here... following is a list of gear i'm wanting to consider for trade (or + cash/combo) for an eventide4000 or 4500: as follows: Telefunken U-73 vintage tube limiter/compressor (raw, not racked) TC Electronics Fireworx Lexicon MPX-1 effects processor Kawai K5000s keyboard Joe meek VS6Q preamp EV RE-20 mic AKG 3000 mic AKG C1000s mic From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 7 23:17:02 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA15255; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:17:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:17:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnvos@mail.adubn1.nj.home.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:07:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Vosbikian Subject: Kyma Capybara Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"eChXR2.0.r_1.gZhTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Has anyone had experience using the Kyma Capybara sound generator? What I am wondering is, after I create sounds on Kyma, can I import them and use them in my Digital Performer sequencing program, much as I do now with my external sound modules? Or must I create all my loops, mixing, sequencing, etc., with the Kyma environment and then export the completed files into... let's ProTools for final mix and bounce to disk. (Hope this question is clear.) I'm crossing my fingers that Kyma would work as easy as any sound module like a Korg or Roland in regards to using and playing its sounds in a sequencing program/MIDI keyboard controller. Any info would be appreciated John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 8 07:36:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA02514; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:36:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:36:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38772D41.C451111C@gmx.at> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:27:45 +0100 From: Michael Schmid X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de-AT,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: casio sk1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ohVWd2.0.RO7.8voTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly everything. -- michael schmid // vienna // austria From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 8 12:28:26 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18665; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:28:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:28:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20000107175751.75499.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:18:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Real Audio Resent-Message-ID: <"SQbbS1.0.1M1.r2tTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I hope I will be forgiven for being such a relic, but can someone tell me what I need to create Real Audio files so I can put up some sound samples on my site? In my experience, streaming often sucks so I just want to make a few things available for download. I'm on Mac.... David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 8 13:20:54 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04752; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:20:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:20:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000108131358.0095b670@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:15:14 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Real Audio In-Reply-To: References: <20000107175751.75499.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"3Rd4E.0.Co7.4xtTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:18 PM 1/8/00 -0500, you wrote: >I hope I will be forgiven for being such a relic, but can someone tell me >what I need to create Real Audio files so I can put up some sound samples >on my site? In my experience, streaming often sucks so I just want to make >a few things available for download. I'm on Mac.... > >David Myers It's becoming harder and harder to find the free versions of the Real Producer programs on the Real.com Web site. Try this URL: http://proforma.real.com/rn/tools/producer/index.html?src=producer_010300b There are versions for Macintosh (PowerMac), Windows and Linux. **************** Floyd Miller ********** floyd@studiodust.com ****** http://www.studiodust.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** palace://studiodust.com:9998 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 8 14:07:04 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16121; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:07:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:07:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 10:56:48 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"JSrAX.0.Li1.KYuTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check flea markets if you have them in Austria. I don't have the money to go to local flea markets anymore, but they do seem to appear fairly regularly. I used to go to a flea market in Sebastopol, CA. They used to turn up there all the time for around $5. (I guess most of the world doesn't know how much we want them!) matt davignon >From: Michael Schmid >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: casio sk1 >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:27:45 +0100 > >I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly everything. > >-- >michael schmid // vienna // austria > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 8 17:17:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23421; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:17:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:17:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Alan Barnard" To: Subject: Loopers in Sacto Area Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:52:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"EyBRM3.0.q9.c7xTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I was wondering if any members of the list reside in the vicinity of Sacramento, CA. ? Alan. ________________________________ Alan Barnard e-drums@pacbell.net http://www.kiene.com/epercussion From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 8 20:20:35 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32599; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:20:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:20:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3877DD16.7DB815FF@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 19:57:58 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 References: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"oEYNX2.0.i-3.WszTu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com buy more than 1 and then look here.... http://windworld.com/emi/ghazala.htm jd matt davignon wrote: > Check flea markets if you have them in Austria. I don't have the money to go > to local flea markets anymore, but they do seem to appear fairly regularly. > > I used to go to a flea market in Sebastopol, CA. They used to turn up there > all the time for around $5. (I guess most of the world doesn't know how much > we want them!) > > matt davignon > > >From: Michael Schmid > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: casio sk1 > >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:27:45 +0100 > > > >I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly everything. > > > >-- > >michael schmid // vienna // austria > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 03:19:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA15546; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:19:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:19:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007101bf5a76$27446de0$2191bc3e@default> Reply-To: "Gareth Whittock" From: "Gareth Whittock" To: Subject: Re:vortexes in UK Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 07:50:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="----------------------------"; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"CSWX-3.0.-v6.Jy3Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just copped these on the sos sale site:- Lexicon Vortex Morphing FX processor with footpedals and manuals. Great for guitar. £160 Phone Chris 0181 671 3979 or email interz@dircon.co.uk (London, UK) LEXICON VORTEX Mint condition,boxed and manuals unique morphing fx. £170 ono Phone phil 0113-2624212 or email scfi@globalnet.co.uk (Leeds, w/yorks) Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 07:00:49 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32277; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 07:00:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 07:00:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3877E511.5D987A53@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 02:32:01 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 References: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kiGmM1.0.8s3.sD7Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com r u planning on circuit-bending those sk-1's? rob matt davignon schrieb: > > > Check flea markets if you have them in Austria. I don't have the money to go > to local flea markets anymore, but they do seem to appear fairly regularly. > > I used to go to a flea market in Sebastopol, CA. They used to turn up there > all the time for around $5. (I guess most of the world doesn't know how much > we want them!) > > matt davignon > > >From: Michael Schmid > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: casio sk1 > >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:27:45 +0100 > > > >I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly everything. > > > >-- > >michael schmid // vienna // austria > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 08:09:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16447; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:09:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 08:09:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jpw77@together.net Message-ID: <38783FA4.66BB@together.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 07:58:28 +0000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 References: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> <3877E511.5D987A53@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fRq56.0.gs.rG8Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What do you know about SK-1/5 mods? I've had one of my SK-1's modified with a trigger input but that's it. Any info appreciated. Jon Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 09:12:11 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00357; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:12:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:12:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387891EF.C1167C46@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 08:49:36 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 References: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> <3877E511.5D987A53@compuserve.com> <38783FA4.66BB@together.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uc7331.0.wL4.3A9Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll post this again, and he's a real nice guy. Even answered an e-mail question but he had no solution to the question of defeating the 10 min auto shut down if you don't play a note every so often. But he suggested useing batteries and leaving it running until the gig and that works great! He also said to always use batteries when circut bending, heh good advice. Here is his paga on the sk-1 http://windworld.com/emi/ghazala.htm jd jpw77@together.net wrote: > What do you know about SK-1/5 mods? I've had one of my SK-1's modified with a trigger input > but that's it. Any info appreciated. > Jon Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 09:28:35 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09841; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:28:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:28:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000109140931.14488.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 06:09:31 -0800 (PST) From: dan sumner Subject: sp202 and darla for sale To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"FcTO53.0.fX7.WQ9Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have a sp202 with a 4 MB card for sale 250 >and a Darla sound card for 150 >Thought I'd offer it here first. > >Please email privately > >Dan Sumner __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 10:28:07 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09720; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:28:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:28:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <97.97a72b85.25a9fd90@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:04:48 EST Subject: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tape phase music. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"CjtIn3.0.p57.tEAUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If anyone has any advice on tape phase music like as done by Steve Reich please help me out. I'm interested in suggestions dealing with either using analog tape and its alternatives within the digital realm. Thanks, Peter P.S. Those alternatives need to be Mac friendly. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 11:10:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11349; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:10:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:10:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jpw77@together.net Message-ID: <3878658F.2E68@together.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:40:15 +0000 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Macintosh; U; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 References: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> <3877E511.5D987A53@compuserve.com> <38783FA4.66BB@together.net> <387891EF.C1167C46@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cHjPF3.0.RN3.ZeAUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks. I had no idea so much was lurking under the hood. The best way I've found to get around the auto shut down is to simply tape a key down. Jon Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 11:39:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25412; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:39:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:39:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <387893AE.40185542@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:57:02 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Real Audio References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"U7uN4.0.Zw3.WHBUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com most sound editing software can now save in realaudio format (e.g. windoze platform: sound forge). check the respective websites for file format patches etc. if you want to make a downloadable format, why not mp3? the cool thing with real audio you can make both a download link and a streaming link with only one physical sound file. to do this: 1) encode the audio (audio.rm) 2) make the download link point to audio.rm 3) make a text file with the absolute path (http://www.davidmeyers.com/sound/audio.rm) as the content and save it as audio.ram 4) make the streaming link point to audio.ram hth, rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -the man cable- http://themancable.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Myers schrieb: > > > I hope I will be forgiven for being such a relic, but can someone tell me > what I need to create Real Audio files so I can put up some sound samples > on my site? In my experience, streaming often sucks so I just want to make > a few things available for download. I'm on Mac.... > > David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 11:37:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24152; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:37:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <38788E8B.BA4E8E29@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:35:07 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 References: <20000108185648.35546.qmail@hotmail.com> <3877E511.5D987A53@compuserve.com> <38783FA4.66BB@together.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"aaHFn.0.or3.5HBUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com check out jeff duke's recommendation at: http://windworld.com/emi/ghazala.htm or: "Circuit Bending - Reed Ghazala" http://www.oddmusic.com/illogic/ later, rob ______________________ -the man cable- http://themancable.com jpw77@together.net schrieb: > > > What do you know about SK-1/5 mods? I've had one of my SK-1's modified with a trigger input > but that's it. Any info appreciated. > Jon Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 11:43:15 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26007; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:43:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:43:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3878B2A4.1002B15E@texas.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 10:09:08 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tapephase music. References: <97.97a72b85.25a9fd90@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Hi_8L1.0.Js1.j7BUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com howdy peter - if you get some private posts about reich tape phase info would you forward it to me? thanks! bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 12:18:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04637; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:18:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:18:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 11:59:15 EST Subject: Re: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tapephase music. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"I2Bwo1.0.ri7.4wBUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com no prob. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 12:17:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04547; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:17:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:17:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001091658.LAA14574@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:59:57 -0400 Subject: Re: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tapephase music. From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Wv2GE.0.DS7.PvBUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ditto on that thanks c.white ---------- >From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tapephase music. >Date: Sun, Jan 9, 2000, 12:09 PM > >howdy peter - > >if you get some private posts about reich tape phase info would you >forward it to me? > >thanks! > >bobdog > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 12:44:53 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12362; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:44:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:44:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <55.55e2f29e.25aa1e95@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 12:25:41 EST Subject: Re: casio sk1 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 228 Resent-Message-ID: <"IPFJ33.0.gr1.tICUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com actually heresa a better link it has the sk1 article as well as others and a big how-to section big help to me http://www.oddmusic.com/illogic Circuit Bending - Reed Ghazala rodrigo << I'll post this again, and he's a real nice guy. Even answered an e-mail question but he had no solution to the question of defeating the 10 min auto shut down if you don't play a note every so often. But he suggested useing batteries and leaving it running until the gig and that works great! He also said to always use batteries when circut bending, heh good advice. Here is his paga on the sk-1 http://windworld.com/emi/ghazala.htm >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 14:16:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05072; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:16:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:16:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3878D9E7.3E5AD90B@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 13:56:39 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tapephase music. References: <97.97a72b85.25a9fd90@aol.com> <3878B2A4.1002B15E@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"WYuTP2.0.T8.ifDUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll add a me too to that request please. jd Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory wrote: > howdy peter - > > if you get some private posts about reich tape phase info would you > forward it to me? > > thanks! > > bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 18:03:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05758; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:03:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:03:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000109225828.83563.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 14:58:28 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"K6C-f2.0.a01.zAHUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I only have one, and I feel that's all I need. As far as circuit bending goes, it sounds really cool, but never has appealed to me as something I should try out. Personally, I like to use consumer-oriented stuff more than musician/experimental oriented stuff. I like working with limitations. Part of me believes that if I modify an Sk-1, it turns into something other than a children's toy. I read the article that someone posted a link to, and it seemed very impressive. I have 3 different samplers though. (4 if you count the computer.) Each has a different aesthetic and utility. I'm very happy to work with what I have. matt >From: Cummings >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: casio sk1 >Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 02:32:01 +0100 > >r u planning on circuit-bending those sk-1's? > >rob > >matt davignon schrieb: > > > > > > Check flea markets if you have them in Austria. I don't have the money >to go > > to local flea markets anymore, but they do seem to appear fairly >regularly. > > > > I used to go to a flea market in Sebastopol, CA. They used to turn up >there > > all the time for around $5. (I guess most of the world doesn't know how >much > > we want them!) > > > > matt davignon > > > > >From: Michael Schmid > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > >Subject: casio sk1 > > >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:27:45 +0100 > > > > > >I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly >everything. > > > > > >-- > > >michael schmid // vienna // austria > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 22:10:03 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21320; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:10:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:10:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 21:55:05 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <00cf01bf5b16$18fcebe0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"whKrU3.0.jM3.thKUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi ya'll, I've been weighing lately on which unit to get. The debate lies in whether or not the "hold" setting on the Boss is more useful than the decaying loop on the DL4. How does the Digital Delay on the DL4 sound? Just as good as the DD5? Also, is there a way to manipulate the pitch of the loop with the DL4? Thanks, George From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 9 22:26:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01139; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:26:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:26:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01f801bf5b19$898b9700$0100005a@Hewlettpackard.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <200001070015.TAA14280@ibm1.exotrope.net> Subject: Re: 1st looper Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 22:19:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BF5AEF.9E287B80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"y-NZj3.0.MM7.Y0LUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BF5AEF.9E287B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1st looperI got to play with a Line6 DL4 today at the local music store = and was seriously impressed with how much it gives you for the money. = Plus it looks cool. When I've taken care of some more pressing = purchases, I'm heading right out to pick one up. Peter (another S(c)hindler!) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Schindler=20 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com=20 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 7:16 PM Subject: 1st looper I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I buy the Akai Headrush = or=20 Line6 DL4? and why? Thanks. Aaron=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BF5AEF.9E287B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1st looper
I got to play with a Line6 DL4 today at = the local=20 music store and was seriously impressed with how much it gives you for = the=20 money.  Plus it looks cool.  When I've taken care of some more = pressing purchases, I'm heading right out to pick one up.
 
 
Peter (another = S(c)hindler!)
 
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I am about to purchase my first looper. Should I = buy the=20 Akai Headrush or
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Aaron=20 ------=_NextPart_000_01F3_01BF5AEF.9E287B80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 06:49:46 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08202; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:49:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:49:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <9b.9b58458d.25ab1cc2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 06:30:10 EST Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"vPyX6.0.v26.gBSUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the dl4 is about 5000% more versatile than the dd5. the dd5 doesn't even come close. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 08:35:10 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28483; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:35:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:35:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3878D9E7.3E5AD90B@bellsouth.net> References: <97.97a72b85.25a9fd90@aol.com> <3878B2A4.1002B15E@texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:31:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: I need to know what kind of setup steve reich used for his tapephase music. Resent-Message-ID: <"bk1NO1.0.8o5.NwTUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I wanted to say, me too--but I certainly think such info would be of interest to the list. Please post. David Myers >I'll add a me too to that request please. >jd > >Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory wrote: > >> howdy peter - >> >> if you get some private posts about reich tape phase info would you >> forward it to me? >> >> thanks! >> >> bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 08:35:38 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA28743; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:35:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:35:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000108131358.0095b670@192.168.0.1> References: <20000107175751.75499.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:29:50 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Real Audio Resent-Message-ID: <"Y9RZH1.0.BH5.duTUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Many thanks to Floyd, Bobdog, and Rob for the info on RealAudio. Awfully busy at the moment, but will let you know when I've been able to get it all together and put up some sound stuff. David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 10:23:07 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08746; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:23:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:23:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01d101bf5b7b$d3caede0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:03:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"jgHlZ.0.Or6.FLVUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Has anyone had experience using the Kyma Capybara sound generator? >What I am wondering is, after I create sounds on Kyma, can I import >them and use them in my Digital Performer sequencing program, much as >I do now with my external sound modules? > . . . I just got a Kyma and I'm still learning it but I think I know enough to answer your question. You can capture the sounds generated by the Capybara into disk files of various formats. Kyma 4.65 (the current version) supports at AIFF, WAV, SD-I, and SD-II, and IRCAM/MTU. Of course, you can also trigger the sounds via MIDI and play them directly from the Capybara. The Kyma system is awesome, BTW, in what it can do. Who are the other Kyma users on the list? Please speak up. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 10:28:22 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12528; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:28:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:28:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01d601bf5b7d$dba49820$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: How to handle multiple loopers Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:17:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"rY3_Y1.0.cj1.uYVUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use a TASCAM 1064 mixer. I send to my two EDPs from AUX1 send and return them into two channels, usually channel 13-14 and channel 15-16 (they're stereo channels but I use them in mono). Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Robert van der Kamp To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:34 PM Subject: How to handle multiple loopers >Hi, > >I'm thinking of working with 2 (or maybe even more) loopers at once to increase the chaos effect. I was wondering how to >deal with that. How does one route the signals through the loopers? Parallel, in series, switch box? Any tips? > >Robert > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 10:33:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16735; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:33:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:33:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnvos@mail.adubn1.nj.home.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01d101bf5b7b$d3caede0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> References: <01d101bf5b7b$d3caede0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:22:24 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Vosbikian Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"NfJmG1.0.fr2.jeVUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >Has anyone had experience using the Kyma Capybara sound generator? >>What I am wondering is, after I create sounds on Kyma, can I import >>them and use them in my Digital Performer sequencing program, much as >>I do now with my external sound modules? >> . . . > >I just got a Kyma and I'm still learning it but I think I know >enough to answer >your question. > >You can capture the sounds generated by the Capybara into disk files >of various >formats. Kyma 4.65 (the current version) supports at AIFF, WAV, SD-I, and >SD-II, and IRCAM/MTU. Of course, you can also trigger the sounds via MIDI and >play them directly from the Capybara. The Kyma system is awesome, >BTW, in what >it can do. But you can't take your Kyma "sounds"/patches and work perform with them in another sequencing program. Do I have that right? If so, is the Kyma sequencing program as sophisticated as a dedicated sequencing program like Digital Performer? Thanks, John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 10:39:01 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20377; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:39:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:39:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3879F9AE.1E2A@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:24:30 -0500 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 References: <9b.9b58458d.25ab1cc2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8faPh.0._v2.CfVUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > the dl4 is about 5000% more versatile than the dd5. the dd5 doesn't even come close. =-) While I agree taht the DL4 is the more versitle delay it does not have the one simple feature theboss Dl5 does and that's a simple delay that you can switch to be an infinte loops *FROM DELAY MODE*. This is an importnat distinction because the DL4 has a looper and has tons of delays and parameters byt n'er the two shall meet. The basic digitech PDS series has this on a separate footswitch and the Boss stomps have a setting to jump from delaying to looping but the DL4 is either a looper (with some minor pre delay features) or a full blown delay without infinite repeat. I believe the original question was aksing about the two pedals in question and this is the only real important distinction. If a potential buyer reading this does know what I'm tlaking about above then you'd probably be more than happy with the DL4 over the Boss. If an delay-> infinite loop feature is absoutley necessary for you then youreally need to try the two pedals out in persons (perhaps next to a digitech PDS1002 or something) and see for yourself which fits your needs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 11:53:06 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA32105; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:53:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:53:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:41:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"GR25c.0.8j6.BnWUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >But you can't take your Kyma "sounds"/patches and work perform with >them in another sequencing program. Do I have that right? As a short answer, no, you can't take your patch "into" another sequencer. Here's more detail, hope it's not too much. Sounds/patches in Kyma are small programs which are downloaded into the Capybara hardware accelerator. On the host computer system (either a Mac or Windows system) where you write the programs, they appear on the screen as icons that you connect with "wires" to implement the signal flow. Some of the icons represent such functions as mixing several inputs in one output, matrixing several inputs to several outputs, filters, delays, samples from disk, live input, algorithmic computations, etc. After you write the "patch", you compile it, load it into the Capybara, and execute it (this is as simple as typing control-space). So in final form the patch is a set of DSP instructions to be executed on the Capybara. Once loaded with your patch, the Capybara acts as any piece of studio gear like a MIDI controlled FX unit, sampler, synth, etc. Now you can deal with the Capybara (transformed into whatever you want it to be via programming - Vortex simulator, looper, sampler, reverb unit, digital mixer, etc., compressor/expander, graphic/parametric EQ) as if it were a just another piece of equipment. >If so, is >the Kyma sequencing program as sophisticated as a dedicated >sequencing program like Digital Performer? It is not a good general purpose MIDI sequencer. For these uses, Symbolic Sound suggests running a MIDI sequencer on your host computer to control the your equipment (including the Capybara). For controlling internal sequences, however, the Kyma system is quite sophisticated and precise. You can specify time intervals in microseconds for example. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 12:11:45 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09500; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:11:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:11:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnvos@mail.adubn1.nj.home.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> References: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:51:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Vosbikian Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"CP35T1.0.2X.cyWUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dennis, Thank you! You've been the only one to clearly answer this one remaining question I had about Kyma. John > >But you can't take your Kyma "sounds"/patches and work perform with >>them in another sequencing program. Do I have that right? > >As a short answer, no, you can't take your patch "into" another sequencer. > >Here's more detail, hope it's not too much. Sounds/patches in Kyma are small >programs which are downloaded into the Capybara hardware accelerator. On the >host computer system (either a Mac or Windows system) where you write the >programs, they appear on the screen as icons that you connect with "wires" to >implement the signal flow. Some of the icons represent such >functions as mixing >several inputs in one output, matrixing several inputs to several outputs, >filters, delays, samples from disk, live input, algorithmic computations, etc. >After you write the "patch", you compile it, load it into the Capybara, and >execute it (this is as simple as typing control-space). So in final form the >patch is a set of DSP instructions to be executed on the Capybara. >Once loaded >with your patch, the Capybara acts as any piece of studio gear like a MIDI >controlled FX unit, sampler, synth, etc. Now you can deal with the Capybara >(transformed into whatever you want it to be via programming - >Vortex simulator, >looper, sampler, reverb unit, digital mixer, etc., compressor/expander, >graphic/parametric EQ) as if it were a just another piece of equipment. > >>If so, is >>the Kyma sequencing program as sophisticated as a dedicated >>sequencing program like Digital Performer? > >It is not a good general purpose MIDI sequencer. For these uses, >Symbolic Sound >suggests running a MIDI sequencer on your host computer to control the your >equipment (including the Capybara). For controlling internal sequences, >however, the Kyma system is quite sophisticated and precise. You can specify >time intervals in microseconds for example. > >Dennis Leas >----------------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 13:40:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20249; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:40:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:40:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:17:13 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <015301bf5b8e$892748c0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: <9b.9b58458d.25ab1cc2@aol.com> <3879F9AE.1E2A@voicenet.com> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"4LhbA3.0.Qf3.LLXUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the advice! You're right, I really have to try them out myself. ----- Original Message ----- From: legion To: Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 > > the dl4 is about 5000% more versatile than the dd5. the dd5 doesn't even come close. =-) > > While I agree taht the DL4 is the more versitle delay it does not have > the one simple feature theboss Dl5 does and that's a simple delay that > you can switch to be an infinte loops *FROM DELAY MODE*. This is an > importnat distinction because the DL4 has a looper and has tons of > delays and parameters byt n'er the two shall meet. The basic digitech > PDS series has this on a separate footswitch and the Boss stomps have a > setting to jump from delaying to looping but the DL4 is either a looper > (with some minor pre delay features) or a full blown delay without > infinite repeat. > > I believe the original question was aksing about the two pedals in > question and this is the only real important distinction. If a potential > buyer reading this does know what I'm tlaking about above then you'd > probably be more than happy with the DL4 over the Boss. If an delay-> > infinite loop feature is absoutley necessary for you then youreally need > to try the two pedals out in persons (perhaps next to a digitech PDS1002 > or something) and see for yourself which fits your needs. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 14:14:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03043; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:14:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:14:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: WTB: Oberheim Echoplex DP Date: Mon, 10 Jan 00 10:43:31 -0800 x-sender: aideas@mail.consultantalliance.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: ai To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1264592468-139329504@consultantalliance.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"cB4IG2.0.cY5.dZYUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you have one you'd like to sell, please e-mail me privately. thanks. Ai B. aideas@pasonline.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 14:52:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21696; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:52:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:52:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: magicicada@mindspring.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:24:37 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: For Sale Sender: magicicada@mindspring.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 170.140.104.66 Resent-Message-ID: <"fNmcg3.0.202.z7ZUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sp808pro for sale or trade 895.00 or best offer.(in great shape just had it serviced by Roland) Also selling a marnatz 4 track: wonderful pro model 4 track 350.00 Mpx-1 Lexicon Processor the best there is enogh said: 600.00 I am willing to trade for a Nice dat and or motu 2408 thanks a lot let me know what you think c.white From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 14:38:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14542; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:38:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:38:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387A3084.A8D4AF96@minds-eye.org> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:18:28 -0500 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boss manuals References: <1264592468-139329504@consultantalliance.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AqTsn2.0.n81.E2ZUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi there, does anyone know where I can get a copy of the manual for a Boss DR660? I checked out the Roland site and couldn't find any mention of such a service (or rather 170 pages of marginally related pages). Thanks for any help kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 15:35:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08399; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:35:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:35:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:11:43 EST Subject: Re: How to handle multiple loopers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 32 Resent-Message-ID: <"stOu12.0.TM7.QqZUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > deal with that. How does one route the signals through the loopers? Parallel, > in series, switch box? Any tips? > parallel is my current favourite best to use a mixer so you can reconfigure on the fly. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 16:18:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25626; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:18:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:18:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200001100351.WAA19826@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:01:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: digital studio Resent-Message-ID: <"mxAeP3.0.cW4.cVaUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey - Any of you loopers using a computer to record digitally (probably a ton)? I'm looking for advice on what to buy. I already have a computer (mac), and was looking at the digi001 or maybe just a used audiomedia III card to start. Anyone know any good places to look for new & used digital recording stuff online. (You can mail me, since this isn't really a list topic.) Thanks, michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 16:43:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04945; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:43:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:43:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:18:02 -0800 (PST) From: jonathan allen baab To: Paul Sullivan cc: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: alesis midiverb II In-Reply-To: <3875AEA1.1C988EA4@gis.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Lu-HP3.0.TG6.MoaUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com unsubscribe From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 16:44:35 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05085; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:44:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:44:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387A49EC.2D98E8F7@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:06:53 -0500 From: "roguemus@ix.netcom.com" Organization: Rogue Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boss manuals References: <1264592468-139329504@consultantalliance.com> <387A3084.A8D4AF96@minds-eye.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RT6ms.0.Id5.shaUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We can provide a copy for $20 to cover the cost of copy, binding and mail Dick Michaels Rogue Music NYC http://www.roguemusic.com Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Hi there, > > does anyone know where I can get a copy of the manual for a Boss DR660? > I > checked out the Roland site and couldn't find any mention of such a > service > (or rather 170 pages of marginally related pages). > > Thanks for any help > > kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 17:02:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14983; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:02:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:02:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnvos@mail.adubn1.nj.home.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:25:26 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Vosbikian Subject: Re: digital studio Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"mF64m3.0.qd7.kzaUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.digidesign.com go to support and you'll find their BB where people are selling used digi gear and related equipment. Hope that helps, John >Hey - > >Any of you loopers using a computer to record digitally (probably a ton)? >I'm looking for advice on what to buy. I already have a computer (mac), >and was looking at the digi001 or maybe just a used audiomedia III card to >start. Anyone know any good places to look for new & used digital >recording stuff online. > >(You can mail me, since this isn't really a list topic.) > >Thanks, > >michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 17:18:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24448; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:18:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:18:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <018901bf5bb2$9659d840$5a05020a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Reply-To: "Ken M" From: "Ken Melms" To: Subject: digital studio revisited Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:35:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"vret42.0.ip7.90bUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On that note - has anyone tried the Aardvark AARK 10/10 ? Ken >Hey - > >Any of you loopers using a computer to record digitally (probably a ton)? >I'm looking for advice on what to buy. I already have a computer (mac), >and was looking at the digi001 or maybe just a used audiomedia III card to >start. Anyone know any good places to look for new & used digital >recording stuff online. > >(You can mail me, since this isn't really a list topic.) > >Thanks, > >michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 17:48:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10607; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:48:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:48:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:03:29 -0800 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 X-Sender-Ip: 207.44.83.198 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"O5Vtd3.0.7w3.STbUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear list; i like the dd-5 it has a reverse delay feature that adds a backward sound after it plays forward. -- On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:17:13 George McConnell wrote: >Thanks for the advice! You're right, I really have to try them out myself. >----- Original Message ----- >From: legion >To: >Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 10:24 AM >Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 > > >> > the dl4 is about 5000% more versatile than the dd5. the dd5 doesn't even >come close. =-) >> >> While I agree taht the DL4 is the more versitle delay it does not have >> the one simple feature theboss Dl5 does and that's a simple delay that >> you can switch to be an infinte loops *FROM DELAY MODE*. This is an >> importnat distinction because the DL4 has a looper and has tons of >> delays and parameters byt n'er the two shall meet. The basic digitech >> PDS series has this on a separate footswitch and the Boss stomps have a >> setting to jump from delaying to looping but the DL4 is either a looper >> (with some minor pre delay features) or a full blown delay without >> infinite repeat. >> >> I believe the original question was aksing about the two pedals in >> question and this is the only real important distinction. If a potential >> buyer reading this does know what I'm tlaking about above then you'd >> probably be more than happy with the DL4 over the Boss. If an delay-> >> infinite loop feature is absoutley necessary for you then youreally need >> to try the two pedals out in persons (perhaps next to a digitech PDS1002 >> or something) and see for yourself which fits your needs. >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion >> "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." >> >> Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and >> info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. >> > > -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 10 22:03:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02921; Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:03:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:03:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38768FF5.F8C25C02@wxs.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:24:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: How to handle multiple loopers Resent-Message-ID: <"z1kTK1.0.an2.oLfUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi, > >I'm thinking of working with 2 (or maybe even more) loopers at once to >increase the chaos effect. I was wondering how to >deal with that. How does one route the signals through the loopers? >Parallel, in series, switch box? Any tips? > >Robert Robert, I use a Mackie 1604 to deal with three loopers, three effects, three synths and my guitar sound. This mixer is extremely versatile and well worth the dollars... Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 00:24:27 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14022; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:24:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:24:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:15:37 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Crashing the DL4? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"2iaNG3.0._42.HphUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm still figuring out my DL4. There is one thing that happens periodically that is really confusing/bugging me. I'm switching between presets, usually fairly quickly because I'm trying them out, or whatever. I deactivate them so I should just be going through. That's fine, but I periodically get to the point where the DL4 won't let me reactivate a preset unless I unplug it and plug it back in again. Basically the unit is dead until I do a "reboot." Has anyone else seen this? It really is annoying. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 00:14:03 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA06154; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:14:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:14:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:06:17 EST Subject: Re: Weird. DJ-70 found. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"DeMPG3.0.Hj7.mfhUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/6/00 1:18:02 PM Central Standard Time, crash@waste.org writes: << Someone on this list was looking for a Roland DJ-70 synth/dj workstation a while ago. The Mars Music in Bloomington is selling a clean used one - you might want to call them to see if they still have it. >> That used to be mine. I wouldn't recommend buying it there, though, unless you want to spend about 3 times the going price for a used unit - I sold it to them for $450, so they _were_ asking $900. I don't know why anyone would want one, unless they got it super cheap. I wouldn't mess with one again unless it was $150 or less. Good luck and happy hunting. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 00:53:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA06388; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:53:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:53:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387AC3F2.79263155@virtulink.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:47:30 -0500 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara References: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nPoT11.0.DP.sEiUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com John Vosbikian wrote: > Thank you! You've been the only one to clearly answer this one > remaining question I had about Kyma. Of course you could have just called the folks who make the box. I contacted them for information last summer an they were very helpful. -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * xouoxno@virtulink.com * * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * M E L A v i r t u a l d r e a m house monitor * * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 01:13:46 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20562; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:13:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:13:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnvos@mail.adubn1.nj.home.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <387AC3F2.79263155@virtulink.com> References: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> <387AC3F2.79263155@virtulink.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 01:04:08 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Vosbikian Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"2K9BJ3.0.jA4.UZiUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Of course. And that was what I did at first. And there reply seemed strange. They wrote back stating that I could ONLY take a Kyma file into a sequencer app as a WAV, AIFF or SDII sort of file. I rewrote them asking for clarification but hadn't received their reply for several days, that's why I wrote to Loopers (and a few other user groups). Coincidentally, there reply followed Dennis'... stating they misunderstood my original question. Both Dennis and Kyma pretty much said the same thing. John >John Vosbikian wrote: > >> Thank you! You've been the only one to clearly answer this one >> remaining question I had about Kyma. > >Of course you could have just called the folks who make >the box. I contacted them for information last summer >an they were very helpful. > > >-- >* D a v i d B e a r d s l e y >* xouoxno@virtulink.com >* >* 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" >* M E L A v i r t u a l d r e a m house monitor >* >* http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 11:37:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22081; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:37:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:37:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:48:51 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: DL4 Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <01d101bf5c4b$5bc67aa0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"4LKD52.0.1z2.SMrUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering how the reverse feature sounds on the DL4? Is it useful in loop mode? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 12:15:34 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02844; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:15:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:15:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000111084843.00854100@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:48:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: DL4 Question In-Reply-To: <01d101bf5c4b$5bc67aa0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wFAjQ2.0.Ta6.4_rUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com George, the reverse delay is one of the delay models, and is not part of the Looper section. The looper has a standard 800ms pre-delay that does have some modulation you can add to it. All of the specific delay 'models' are completely seperate from the Looper. Sorry. You have had several posts asking about this unit. Go try it!!!! You won't really know how this unit works with your playing style until you really get into it! later, rich At 10:48 AM 1/11/00 -0500, you wrote: >I was wondering how the reverse feature sounds on the DL4? Is it useful in >loop mode? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 13:10:22 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23063; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:10:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:10:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387B6AB0.73E4@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:38:56 -0500 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 Question References: <01d101bf5c4b$5bc67aa0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"joBIq2.0.Od2.3fsUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I was wondering how the reverse feature sounds on the DL4? The reverse features are actually pretty good. it's suppsoed to be a copy fo the Boss RPS10 unit. I have one of these and have never A/B'd the two but from my ears the Boss is a lot grittier and the DL4 is cleaner with a bit more delay time (2.5 seconds I believe). I wouldn't consider the DL4 a 100% emulation of the Boss but as a reverse delay on it's own I think it's even more useful. > Is it useful in loop mode? If you asking if the DL4 reverse delay works well in loop mode then the answer is no because the reverse section of the DL4 does not loop at all. The Dl4 has a number of preset delay functions but none of these loop. Then it has one loop mode but this has no actual delay outsdie of a limited predelay option. After reading the reviews, hearing the hype, and using the unit in the stuido and onstage for a few weeks here is my personal conclusion: The DL4 is an incredibly useful and flexible delay unit. It has a wider variety of delays than any other stomp or rack unit I know of and is priced rather well. I am not really convinced it a good emulation of the various delays it's supposed to be (some come closer than others) but as a delay unit on it's own it is the most flexible box I have ever used. I didn't buy mine to replace a tube echoplex or the RPS10 and I'm glad I didn't because the DL4 copies *parts* of those but doesn't have the same feel or range of sounds. On the other hand the DL4 as a delay unit offers more flexibility and a wider range of sounds than I could get even if I had a handful of units lying aroudn live, it's built very solid, travels well, and is dead simple to use. I'm not planning on selling my vintage delays anytime soon but just as a testimony I didn't take any of them out live last show and the DL4 added more to my set than they ever did. I didn't touch the loop mode yet outside of just playing with it so i can't speak to that but if I were to buy one single delay unit right now and didn't have any I'd say the DL4 woudl be *the* pedal I would want. ____________________________________________________________________ HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 13:20:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26904; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:20:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:20:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387B6FBB.F1A8CCF7@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:00:37 -0800 From: George Van Wagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 Question References: <3.0.6.32.20000111084843.00854100@pop3.argotech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zABRf3.0.Zi4.p-sUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There is also a reverse function on the looper, and I believe that's what he's asking about. I like it, and it's certainly capable of making some pretty trippy loops. George Rich wrote: > > George, the reverse delay is one of the delay models, and is not part of > the Looper section. The looper has a standard 800ms pre-delay that does > have some modulation you can add to it. All of the specific delay 'models' > are completely seperate from the Looper. Sorry. > > You have had several posts asking about this unit. Go try it!!!! You > won't really know how this unit works with your playing style until you > really get into it! > > later, > > rich > > At 10:48 AM 1/11/00 -0500, you wrote: > >I was wondering how the reverse feature sounds on the DL4? Is it useful in > >loop mode? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 13:40:30 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02371; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:40:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:40:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:18:53 -0800 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, legion@voicenet.com Subject: Re: DL4 Question Resent-Message-ID: <"yZkdR1.0.yX6._GtUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I was wondering how the reverse feature sounds on the DL4? No one has clearly stated that the Loop mode is reversible. There's the "pre-delay" in loop mode which is a normal delay of up to 800ms which can then be looped. Once looped (with or without the "pre-delay") you can then reverse it; half-speed it and perform overdubs. There's no insert or replace mode... it's a very simple overdub looper... really fun to use and the reverse and half-speed modes make it really versatile for creating various textures. As many others replied... the reverse delay modeler is a good one similar to the Boss RPS-10. I second the statement that the DL4 is a huge value in a delay pedal as well as a great sounding unit. Ob Trace-Elliot EDP item... any clues as to when they'll hit the stores? Also David K... have you heard anything about our group purchase status? Are they still committed to filling our needs before they release to the general public or fill store back orders? -miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 14:39:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01935; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:39:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:39:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000111190044.80087.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.71] From: "G716" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20000111084843.00854100@pop3.argotech.net> <387B6FBB.F1A8CCF7@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: DL4 Question Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:00:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <"ILPGk3.0.rA3.0utUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes Virginia, there is a reverse mode in the looper. I find it useful and fun for the whole family. Record a loop, punch the "Tap" button twice (gotta be quick), now your loop is going backwards. (Look ma, I'm Jimi Hendrix) Overdub a new line, reverse it again, now your orignal is back to normal and the overdub is reversed. Combine this with pressing "Tap" once (half speed/full speed toggle) and you can do quite a number of wacky tricks -- tripped out backward loops at half speed (Look ma, I'm Jimi on acid -- wait, is that redundant?) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 15:27:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32517; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:27:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 15:27:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:58:28 -0800 From: "Mike Biffle" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com, Nemoguitt@aol.com, psbuddha@texas.net Subject: Nemoguit CD... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id OAA14747 Resent-Message-ID: <"S4-i51.0.9f3.HkuUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I second Bobdog's opinion that our own M. Klobuchar has been channeling Gibby Haynes (I think I hear a fair dose of the Residents in there as well as the effects of watching far to many B sci-fi movies! 8-)) There's also a real 60's flower power vibe to the guitar pieces as well. Good job Michael! -MikoNOTMichael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 16:40:05 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12662; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:40:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:40:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301bf5c79$67f6f7e0$4422dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <0.d84db190.25940171@aol.com> Subject: Re: arleta, ca? L.A. looping scene Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:18:27 -0800 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"ojPsE3.0.-v7.GuvUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A test of my capability to post follows, as well as a real posting! Happy New Year/etc. all! My targeting is still spot-on, and having just gotten engaged to a nice British lady in Kensington-London, can see myself in the UK in as little as 10 months! Thus my feedback on the LA Looping/Ambient scene might be a bit different than in the past... :) 1. The LA Ambient scene is more often than not SO ambient as to be invisible, despite the dependence upon it for mood music by the TV and Film industries (at least!). One might get the impression, unless one subscribes to lists like this, that a majority of us spend most of our time looking for a place to play where we don't have to pay ... (LA is after all, to most "industry insiders" still a Hollywood suburb, and, alas, Hollywood is STILL Hollywood). 2. LA/Hollywood is still the best place in the known universe to buy used music equipment. Hint - Go for the ones WITHOUT the Anvil cases, as they've not been all over the known universe... :) 3. Guitar Center is still populated by sharks. 4. The air isn't as clean is it looks on TV. There are days that some of us refer to as "shooting days" because they're so clear it's unusual. (This is done in NYC as well, of course, but only its residents know about the smog there, as it's pretty much a local secret, and not as visible as LA's.) Skin problems here are more the fault of the air than the sun, and you have to wash the Sky Residue off your car at least once a week. 5. Having lived here for 15 years, I've often thought that California is [a] pretty much run by the police, and [b] would be a fun place to live if children weren't allowed. Since [b] will never happen, I have to say that it's not, to quote Frank Zappa, "a real nice place to raise your kids up." Someone coming from the Midwest, though, should be armed already with a stable concept of Family, hopefully enough to hold things together in the onslaught of Other-Than-Normal-Stuff that flies around here disguised as Normal Stuff. But enough of that. Obviously I've built up the kind of little discontents about LA that I did about NYC, before leaving THAT part of the world in 1984 - and I don't mean to be overly cynical either. Hopefully 2000 will be a year where most of us look back on the previous Century as one that can teach us all things we haven't imagined as yet. Cheers! Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 17:28:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32560; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:28:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:28:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: "loopers" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:06:16 -0800 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: boss pn-2 X-Sender-Ip: 164.156.106.63 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5Dqo92.0.mC6.-bwUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear list: There is a boss pn-2 tremelo pan pedal at ebay for 81.00 look under "boss pn-2" -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 17:39:02 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03133; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:39:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:39:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003f01bf5c81$9e788ba0$799cb8d4@oemcomputer> From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (Luis Angulo) To: "Loopers delight" Subject: Foot controller Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:15:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: <"FzpN01.0.Mi6.kgwUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It´s a bit funny that foot controllers are not too often reviewed in music magazines or here. They are quite important since they comand everything. I still haven´t found any reviews on the Phill Rees or the new Yamaha MFC 10 or even the Nobels units.It would be great if they were on the Loopers Delight web site! This units(especially the Yamaha sounds great) seem to have a lot of the features that the discontinued Digitech PMC10 had which is what i am looking for.But off course i like to hear experiences before i buy.I am not completely satisfied with the DMC Ground Control since it lacks Note on/off messages although it is a good unit for what it does.If you find any reviews on this units please let me know. Thanks L.A. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 18:05:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11646; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:05:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:05:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001112247.OAA03123@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:51:18 -0800 Subject: Re: DL4 Question From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XhOs_2.0.tL1.uBxUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com *NO* hits on JIMI o k? ---------- >From: "G716" >To: >Subject: Re: DL4 Question >Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 11:00 AM > > Yes Virginia, there is a reverse mode in the looper. I find it useful and > fun for the whole family. > > Record a loop, punch the "Tap" button twice (gotta be quick), now your loop > is going backwards. (Look ma, I'm Jimi Hendrix) > Overdub a new line, reverse it again, now your orignal is back to normal and > the overdub is reversed. > > Combine this with pressing "Tap" once (half speed/full speed toggle) and you > can do quite a number of wacky tricks -- tripped out backward loops at half > speed (Look ma, I'm Jimi on acid -- wait, is that redundant?) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 18:18:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15053; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:18:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:18:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387BB570.46063D5F@virtulink.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:57:52 -0500 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara References: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> <387AC3F2.79263155@virtulink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Sj_D23.0.M02.rKxUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com John Vosbikian wrote: > > Of course. And that was what I did at first. And there reply seemed > strange. They wrote back stating that I could ONLY take a Kyma file > into a sequencer app as a WAV, AIFF or SDII sort of file. So it sounds like you can use samples created by Kyma. > I rewrote > them asking for clarification but hadn't received their reply for > several days, that's why I wrote to Loopers (and a few other user > groups). I used a telephone. -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * xouoxno@virtulink.com * * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * M E L A v i r t u a l d r e a m house monitor * * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 19:31:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10040; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:31:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:31:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:08:44 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Crashing the DL4? Resent-Message-ID: <"ZUgp32.0.AZ7.dMyUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I'm still figuring out my DL4. There is one thing that happens >periodically that is really confusing/bugging me. I'm switching between >presets, usually fairly quickly because I'm trying them out, or whatever. >I deactivate them so I should just be going through. That's fine, but I >periodically get to the point where the DL4 won't let me reactivate a >preset unless I unplug it and plug it back in again. Basically the unit >is dead until I do a "reboot." Has anyone else seen this? It really is >annoying. > > Kevin > I have to do a full reset on mine almost every time I power it up, or else it won't go out of bypass mode when I hit a preset switch. I talked to Line 6, and they said that alot of earliest units shipped have firmware version 1.2, current units have v. 1.3, and they'll replace the firmware for free. To check the version, power it up while holding down the "Tap Tempo" switch. The A LED will blink once, then the B LED will blink twice if you have v. 1.2, 3X if you have 1.3. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 19:46:39 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19079; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:46:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:46:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387BC75B.4984B73D@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:14:19 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 Question References: <200001112247.OAA03123@penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Ecbgu1.0.6p.hVyUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what is that supposed to mean? If it were not for Jimi and acid, well.... you figure it out, are you slamming Jimi or do you think that G716 is making some sort of *hit* on Jimi? please extrapolate. peace and love forever, jd Stan Card wrote: > *NO* hits on JIMI o k? > > ---------- > >From: "G716" > >To: > >Subject: Re: DL4 Question > >Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 11:00 AM > > > > > Yes Virginia, there is a reverse mode in the looper. I find it useful and > > fun for the whole family. > > > > Record a loop, punch the "Tap" button twice (gotta be quick), now your loop > > is going backwards. (Look ma, I'm Jimi Hendrix) > > Overdub a new line, reverse it again, now your orignal is back to normal and > > the overdub is reversed. > > > > Combine this with pressing "Tap" once (half speed/full speed toggle) and you > > can do quite a number of wacky tricks -- tripped out backward loops at half > > speed (Look ma, I'm Jimi on acid -- wait, is that redundant?) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 20:25:44 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02493; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:25:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:25:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.20.199.45] From: "Alexander Maisey" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: First timer... Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:04:30 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"14VZh3.0.1b6.BDzUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's my deal. I'm interested in making an unholy industrial / drum 'n' bass hybrid sort of music, but first I need to understand some things about each... I am using Fruityloops TS404 (v 1.7.6) with Goldwave and Soundforge to sample, and Simsynth, Drumsynth, and Subsynth to create cool sounds. 1. What's the "best" tempo for recording what I want to create? I find that fairly speedy Industrial clocks in at 140 bpm, and I read somewhere that dnb clocks 180 or above. Should I go for a median, or just do a dnb speed like 170 and improvise on really fast industrial parts? 2. Are there any good, free, and really wicked samples out there? I've used up Analogue Samples, Kalava, and Samplenet. How about some free Synth software (can't have too much) 3. Can anyone write up a couple of example melodies that would be used for a synth or bass line in dnb? I guess written in standard notation would be nice, but if you can't, just do "Do, Ra, Me, Fa..." etc. That's about it. Thanks a lot. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 20:45:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08916; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:45:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:45:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01a901bf5cb5$bff36aa0$99250d3f@GTEtesh> From: "nitesh atel" To: References: <20000109140931.14488.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: sp202 and darla for sale Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:25:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"tEdOF.0.xR.pVzUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sold sp202 drum machine right i m all over it if its the groove box tesh@gte.net ----- Original Message ----- From: dan sumner To: Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 6:09 AM Subject: sp202 and darla for sale > I have a sp202 with a 4 MB card for sale 250 > >and a Darla sound card for 150 > >Thought I'd offer it here first. > > > >Please email privately > > > >Dan Sumner > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 21:17:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA21895; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:17:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:17:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:57:23 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: Re: DL4 Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <023101bf5ca0$5e9f8aa0$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 References: <3.0.6.32.20000111084843.00854100@pop3.argotech.net> <387B6FBB.F1A8CCF7@earthlink.net> <20000111190044.80087.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"fgAmz.0.sL3.f_zUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cool, you mean I can sound like Jimi Hendrix without doing acid??!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: G716 To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:00 PM Subject: Re: DL4 Question > Yes Virginia, there is a reverse mode in the looper. I find it useful and > fun for the whole family. > > Record a loop, punch the "Tap" button twice (gotta be quick), now your loop > is going backwards. (Look ma, I'm Jimi Hendrix) > Overdub a new line, reverse it again, now your orignal is back to normal and > the overdub is reversed. > > Combine this with pressing "Tap" once (half speed/full speed toggle) and you > can do quite a number of wacky tricks -- tripped out backward loops at half > speed (Look ma, I'm Jimi on acid -- wait, is that redundant?) > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 21:37:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28306; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:37:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:37:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000111180832.00854930@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:08:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: First timer... In-Reply-To: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"hd9uf1.0.--4.LD-Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I like this e-mail list and all, but what on earth is this doing here? Jeez, make up your own mind, and your own music. What are we going to tell you that you aren't going to have to try yourself anyway and see if it works? Try this, do the dnb at at least 250, and the hipsters will be forced to come up with some new obscure 'genre splitting' name for your new style! At 01:04 AM 1/12/00 GMT, you wrote: >Here's my deal. > >I'm interested in making an unholy industrial / drum 'n' bass hybrid sort of >music, but first I need to understand some things about each... I am using >Fruityloops TS404 (v 1.7.6) with Goldwave and Soundforge to sample, and >Simsynth, Drumsynth, and Subsynth to create cool sounds. > >1. What's the "best" tempo for recording what I want to create? I find >that fairly speedy Industrial clocks in at 140 bpm, and I read somewhere >that dnb clocks 180 or above. Should I go for a median, or just do a dnb >speed like 170 and improvise on really fast industrial parts? > >2. Are there any good, free, and really wicked samples out there? I've >used up Analogue Samples, Kalava, and Samplenet. How about some free Synth >software (can't have too much) > >3. Can anyone write up a couple of example melodies that would be used for >a synth or bass line in dnb? I guess written in standard notation would be >nice, but if you can't, just do "Do, Ra, Me, Fa..." etc. > >That's about it. Thanks a lot. >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 22:07:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA21025; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:48:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:48:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000112002422.19370.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: dan sumner To: a a , chris becker , michael bober , Nick Boeglin , Kamal BouMikael , George Davis , Scott Edware , bart ferguson , Ann Marie Guidry , Lorenz Haeusle , Francis James , Amy Johnson , Stephan langdon , THOMAS NEWMAN , michelle Nunez , David POPE <75613.1761@compuserve.com>, Dereck Rollins , anita sumner , jason sumner , jason sumner , nick white , Tiktok WorldHQQ , Lee , "Terri @ cox cable" , Michael Burkart , ddunken MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"A2P8r3.0.7u1.jdyUu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Unidentified subject! Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello Permagrin fans, We are back in the club game and are ready to psychadelify your minds. We have revamped old material and added new material to our set. Our January dates are as follows: Thursday 13th@ CAC Cyber Cafe Tuesday 18th@ Dragon's Den Monday 23@Circle Bar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 22:02:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10843; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:02:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:02:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001120241.VAA08377@ibm1.exotrope.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:42:17 -0500 Subject: Re: DL4 Question From: "Schindler" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cjQWQ2.0.lI7.Wd-Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com NO! You must do Acid. ---------- >From: George McConnell >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: DL4 Question >Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 8:57 PM > > Cool, you mean I can sound like Jimi Hendrix without doing acid??!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: G716 > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: DL4 Question > > >> Yes Virginia, there is a reverse mode in the looper. I find it useful and >> fun for the whole family. >> >> Record a loop, punch the "Tap" button twice (gotta be quick), now your > loop >> is going backwards. (Look ma, I'm Jimi Hendrix) >> Overdub a new line, reverse it again, now your orignal is back to normal > and >> the overdub is reversed. >> >> Combine this with pressing "Tap" once (half speed/full speed toggle) and > you >> can do quite a number of wacky tricks -- tripped out backward loops at > half >> speed (Look ma, I'm Jimi on acid -- wait, is that redundant?) >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 23:43:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA28404; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:43:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:43:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000111180832.00854930@pop3.argotech.net> References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:12:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: First timer... Resent-Message-ID: <"hU9Pz2.0.Q72.2w_Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Recently, a guy at work asked me if I knew anything about computer programs for video - he wanted to start doing his own music videos. I said great, what kind of music do you do? He said, I haven't done any yet, can you recommend software to do music with? So he's not a musician and not familiar with video, but he wants to pick up some software to make him an artist, I guess. Am I just old fashioned? I love technology, but I hope art has to come from something else; these goodies can only be a tool. Speaking of goodies, has anyone here seen the new Apple flat screen? Ohmygod, everyone at my shop got a super hard on for it. Unbelievable. The only non (specifically) music piece of gear to give me serious G.A.S. in ages.... David Myers >I like this e-mail list and all, but what on earth is this doing here? >Jeez, make up your own mind, and your own music. What are we going to tell >you that you aren't going to have to try yourself anyway and see if it works? > >Try this, do the dnb at at least 250, and the hipsters will be forced to >come up with some new obscure 'genre splitting' name for your new style! > > >At 01:04 AM 1/12/00 GMT, you wrote: >>Here's my deal. >> >>I'm interested in making an unholy industrial / drum 'n' bass hybrid sort of >>music, but first I need to understand some things about each... I am using >>Fruityloops TS404 (v 1.7.6) with Goldwave and Soundforge to sample, and >>Simsynth, Drumsynth, and Subsynth to create cool sounds. >> >>1. What's the "best" tempo for recording what I want to create? I find >>that fairly speedy Industrial clocks in at 140 bpm, and I read somewhere >>that dnb clocks 180 or above. Should I go for a median, or just do a dnb >>speed like 170 and improvise on really fast industrial parts? >> >>2. Are there any good, free, and really wicked samples out there? I've >>used up Analogue Samples, Kalava, and Samplenet. How about some free Synth >>software (can't have too much) >> >>3. Can anyone write up a couple of example melodies that would be used for >>a synth or bass line in dnb? I guess written in standard notation would be >>nice, but if you can't, just do "Do, Ra, Me, Fa..." etc. >> >>That's about it. Thanks a lot. >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 23:29:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19976; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:29:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:29:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000112040748.14906.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:07:48 -0800 (PST) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: sp202 and darla for sale To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"Q-JDi3.0.0z1.Ou_Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the sp202 is called the dr sample. You can read about it at the boss site. --- nitesh atel wrote: > sold sp202 drum machine right i m all over it if its > the groove box > tesh@gte.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dan sumner > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 6:09 AM > Subject: sp202 and darla for sale > > > > I have a sp202 with a 4 MB card for sale 250 > > >and a Darla sound card for 150 > > >Thought I'd offer it here first. > > > > > >Please email privately > > > > > >Dan Sumner > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 11 23:29:22 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19973; Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:29:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:29:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Bad-Idea: su; rm -rf / X-Echoplex: Sound on Sound Activated X-Prerequisite-Blasphemy: Invert me under the stars Message-Id: <4.1.20000111210425.0181b870@realm-of-shade.com> X-Sender: reverendrob@realm-of-shade.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:07:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: the Reverend Rob Subject: Re: First timer... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000111180832.00854930@pop3.argotech.net> References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9v-Dx.0.A-1.Xu_Uu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On or around 06:08 PM 1/11/00 -0800, Rich said: >Try this, do the dnb at at least 250, and the hipsters will be forced to >come up with some new obscure 'genre splitting' name for your new style! It turns into gods know what extremely quickly at that point; a guy I used to play with in Chicago had this tendency just to see how on I was that night by cranking the box to 280 or so. The only problem I had looping with him at those speeds was at the time I didn't have enough loop devices to hope to sync, and hadn't discovered the beautiful speed control on the RDS-series delays. == the Reverend Rob ICQ: 1280871 http://www.realm-of-shde.com/music From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 01:02:01 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA13025; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:02:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:02:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000112053336.47989.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [206.252.160.127] From: "Zach Lawrence" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: First timer... Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:33:36 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"ozTfs2.0.dr6.M91Vu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com alexander - this is just what my experience has been in electronic music: drum 'n' bass should be speedy, but if you get too fast (like around 200 bpm), it becomes hardcore (kind of). you get the idea: music like this is pretty open to interpretation as far as the specifics go. make it quick and make it groove ... those are your best bets. the best industrial stuff i've heard uses percusive sounds other than standard drums ... a lot of klanking metal and stuff. a half-time rhythmic feel makes it seem a little heavier, then you can segue into a fast breakbeat for a while. Sonic Foundry's ACID program comes with a lot of free samples with no royalties, and it's a great all-round beginner's programming tool. if you ask me, though, take a tape recorder, go outside and record some messed up sounds, then run them in with some wav. editor or something. the staticky tape hiss will give you some indie cred:) hope i sparked some ideas! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 01:35:45 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28292; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:35:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:35:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:16:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001120616.AAA25214@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: First timer... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id BAA19969 Resent-Message-ID: <"rkbmX3.0.-v4.kn1Vu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I love technology, but I hope >art has to come from something else; these goodies can only be a tool. > That´s why they´re called INSTRUMENTS, art is more than gear, we spend a lot of time talking about gear, instead of music by the way... :-) smaug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 03:07:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA21872; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:07:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:07:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: jcoker@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <387C2E92.382720BC@jguru.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:34:42 -0700 From: Jim Coker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15smp i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Kyma Capybara References: <01e901bf5b89$83e91140$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> <387AC3F2.79263155@virtulink.com> <387BB570.46063D5F@virtulink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DeIQa.0.3-5.Cr2Vu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Beardsley wrote: > > John Vosbikian wrote: > > > > Of course. And that was what I did at first. And there reply seemed > > strange. They wrote back stating that I could ONLY take a Kyma file > > into a sequencer app as a WAV, AIFF or SDII sort of file. > > So it sounds like you can use samples created by Kyma. > > > I rewrote > > them asking for clarification but hadn't received their reply for > > several days, that's why I wrote to Loopers (and a few other user > > groups). > > I used a telephone. The folks at Symbolic Sound always respond better when you call. BTW, I understand John Paul Jones is using a tap-tempo loop setup running on a Capybara during live performances. Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 03:38:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA17379; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:38:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:38:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF5CDE.C9CC0770.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: Kyma Capybara Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:20:36 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0WAZE2.0.vC.Ua3Vu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jim Coker wrote, > I understand John Paul Jones is using > a tap-tempo loop setup running on a > Capybara during live performances. that's right, I saw him use it here in Cologne last month. He used it for one solo guitar piece, building up multiple voices, grooves, and chord changes ... not bad although I found that at one point it started to get a little bit out of control, rhythmwise. As an Echoplex user, I found it striking that apparently he could switch single loops on and off while the others continued to run. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 10:22:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22091; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:22:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:22:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <1d.1d2c91f8.25adef7e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:53:50 EST Subject: Vortex Sounds for download To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 32 Resent-Message-ID: <"J9cN31.0.t31.rM9Vu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For anyone curious about the sound of this device, I've just put links to some examples in mp3 format on my webpage. The examples include my own patches which extend the capabilities of this unit to some of it's furthest limits, if you don't know the Vortex, or have only heard the factory presets you'll be amazed at what can come out of just one box. Lexicon Vortex Database< /A> Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 11:07:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13444; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:07:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:07:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387CA123.A3DEA01@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:43:31 -0500 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: Korg AX1000G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cgsr_1.0.Nz.i4AVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone asked a while back about the KorgAx1000G as a looper a while back I think and so here's a review. Basically the AX1000 G will give you 'around' 8 seconds of looping time with 10 playback modes (8 types of reverse and 2 straight playback). The reverese feature is kind of fun, record and 8 second sample (time not adjustable) and then the sample plays forward when you rock the expression pedal forward and backwards when you return the pedal. Reverese modes 1-8 are just speed of reverse playback with one being noormal speed and 2-7 being faster playback time (which makes settings 3-8 pretty much useless IMO). Why they didn't include slower playback speeds is beyond me. The other two looping settings are (again 8 seconds with no adjustment), record and playback of the loop a single time until you retrigger it with the pedal or a continuous playback that loops as long as the pedal is forward. Echoes and delays time up to 3 seconds. The sound is pretty good and the echoes and reverbs are nice, but overall this falls far short of the possibilities that could have been with this unit. If you like to change your settings with knobs and dials and you're looking for a basic, portable effects unit its not bad for $235, but otherwise there's not too much to recommend this unit (and I thought its predessor the AX300G was a fanatastic effects unit. Anyone know where to buy discontinued effects cheap?). Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 11:33:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29678; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:33:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:33:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387CAAC3.C9FA4DF3@pop.agri.ch> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:24:35 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs=20Turi=F1o?= Reply-To: j-turino@pop.agri.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jamman memory References: <387CA123.A3DEA01@minds-eye.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------67708CBE87188AD79F2C85D8" Resent-Message-ID: <"YjBe83.0.Fn5.UiAVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. --------------67708CBE87188AD79F2C85D8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just played for a while with my jamman and wanted to upgrade it now, bacause 8 sec. are a little short. But ... I dont find the memorys chips anywhere. Where can I still buy 4 of these chips? Jes=FAs --------------67708CBE87188AD79F2C85D8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="j-turino.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Visitenkarte fŸr Jesœs Turi–o Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="j-turino.vcf" begin:vcard n:Turiño ;Jesús tel;fax:+41 41 761 33 91 (G) tel;home:+41 41 210 39 69 tel;work:+41 41 761 26 42 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.i45.ch org:i45 Zug adr:;;Waldstätterstrasse 16;Luzern;Luzern;6003;Switzerland version:2.1 email;internet:j-turino@pop.agri.ch x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Jesús Turiño end:vcard --------------67708CBE87188AD79F2C85D8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 11:59:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20060; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:59:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:59:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000112165128.404.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [198.140.4.14] From: "sean kroah" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: DL4 firmware rumour & mm4 price deal at alto. Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:51:28 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"4OG8o2.0.R53.o4BVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com According to line 6 the firmware upgrade is not true. Here is what I heard from them. Line6 >> Unfortunately, that is not true. There are no plans for an upgrade for the DL4 or any other pedals. Maybe in the future. Keep viewing our website, www.line6.com for all updated information. Me >> The good news is that alto music will also sell you a line6 mm4 pedal for 200. I am planning on getting one on payday, even though I am supposed to be saving for a ring....Hah ha ha. SKroah >From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Crashing the DL4? >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:08:44 -0800 > > >I'm still figuring out my DL4. There is one thing that happens > >periodically that is really confusing/bugging me. I'm switching between > >presets, usually fairly quickly because I'm trying them out, or whatever. > >I deactivate them so I should just be going through. That's fine, but I > >periodically get to the point where the DL4 won't let me reactivate a > >preset unless I unplug it and plug it back in again. Basically the unit > >is dead until I do a "reboot." Has anyone else seen this? It really is > >annoying. > > > > Kevin > > >I have to do a full reset on mine almost every time I power it up, or else >it won't go out of bypass mode when I hit a preset switch. I talked to Line >6, and they said that alot of earliest units shipped have firmware version >1.2, current units have v. 1.3, and they'll replace the firmware for free. >To check the version, power it up while holding down the "Tap Tempo" >switch. The A LED will blink once, then the B LED will blink twice if you >have v. 1.2, 3X if you have 1.3. > >________________________________________________________ >Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ > >"...there will come a day when you won't have to use >gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in >your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper >type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em >together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em >together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." > -Sun Ra >________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 12:21:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06106; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:21:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:21:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7686E88F1253D311A867006008CD059F10001D@0-mail-1.hpl.hp.com> From: "Solomon, Charlie" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Cc: "'Charlie Solomon(hplb)'" Subject: RE: Korg AX1000G Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:10:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"QmYZL.0.ft6.eMBVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Kevin, Thanks for the detail on the Korg, I've been looking for an acoustic guitar processor (moderately priced) which provides dynamic compression and has a pretty good signal-noise-ratio. (18-bit stuff can be pretty noisey.) Just to add my two cents on why slower playback wasn't included. If you add this feature so that there's no attendant pitch shift in the sample you have to do some serious digital signal processing (transfer via Fourier Transform to the frequency domain and rerender the 'block' time extended/shortened while maintaining the spectral charateristics). To do this in real time requires a lot of computational power. Otherwise you have to wait while the sample is processed and then stored for repeated playback -- and that requires more memory (thereby increasing the cost). I don't know, does the AX1000G have any pitch shifting? -chas- -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [mailto:kevin@minds-eye.org] Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2000 15:44 To: loop Subject: Korg AX1000G Someone asked a while back about the KorgAx1000G as a looper a while back I think and so here's a review. Basically the AX1000 G will give you 'around' 8 seconds of looping time with 10 playback modes (8 types of reverse and 2 straight playback). The reverese feature is kind of fun, record and 8 second sample (time not adjustable) and then the sample plays forward when you rock the expression pedal forward and backwards when you return the pedal. Reverese modes 1-8 are just speed of reverse playback with one being noormal speed and 2-7 being faster playback time (which makes settings 3-8 pretty much useless IMO). Why they didn't include slower playback speeds is beyond me. The other two looping settings are (again 8 seconds with no adjustment), record and playback of the loop a single time until you retrigger it with the pedal or a continuous playback that loops as long as the pedal is forward. Echoes and delays time up to 3 seconds. The sound is pretty good and the echoes and reverbs are nice, but overall this falls far short of the possibilities that could have been with this unit. If you like to change your settings with knobs and dials and you're looking for a basic, portable effects unit its not bad for $235, but otherwise there's not too much to recommend this unit (and I thought its predessor the AX300G was a fanatastic effects unit. Anyone know where to buy discontinued effects cheap?). Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 12:38:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21420; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:38:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:38:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387CBA46.CCA43F67@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:30:46 -0500 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Korg AX1000G References: <7686E88F1253D311A867006008CD059F10001D@0-mail-1.hpl.hp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"oB3pl3.0.oV3.DfBVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Solomon, Charlie" wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Thanks for the detail on the Korg, I've been looking for an acoustic guitar > processor (moderately priced) which provides dynamic compression and has a > pretty good signal-noise-ratio. (18-bit stuff can be pretty noisey.) Look for an AX300G, this is a great (cheap) multi-effects pedal (only 2 seconds of delay though). Don't know how it would work on an accoustic but its been a great portable effects unit for my electric. > > I don't know, does the AX1000G have any pitch shifting? Well that's the thing, the 1000 does have pitch shifting and it seems if they could speed the reversed sample, they could have easily slowed the reverses sample (but I know nothing about the real intricacies involved in such a thing). Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 14:26:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03071; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:26:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:26:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387CD3B6.6C435639@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:19:18 +0000 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Hendrix References: <200001120455.XAA03417@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"a_cQT3.0.Lj6.IEDVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > Cool, you mean I can sound like Jimi Hendrix without doing acid??!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > > NO! You must do Acid. > If you do acid you will probably THINK you sound like Hendrix. This reminds me of a time when I was thumbing a lift home from Reading Festival still buzzing. I got a lift in an ice cream van for 200 miles. All the way the cooling unit seemed to be playing the most amazing guitar music! Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 15:10:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18919; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:10:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:10:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <387CA3A1.E279BA5C@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:54:09 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: First timer... References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> <4.1.20000111210425.0181b870@realm-of-shade.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uTeoV2.0.Mb2.ItDVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com try this one at home: 1) slave a midi sequencer (e.g. mpc2000) to a jamman (MIDI master) or edp 2) set your sequencer to play a percussion-ish sequence 3) tap a VERY short loop tempo into the looper (e.g. <100ms) 4) laugh (hahaha) as your sequencer sputters and stutters out all sorts of gibberish 5) record this and resample the tastiest morsels to alexander: no offence from us grumpy son-of-a-know-it-all's, but make your own sounds and set your own tempos ... pfuk tha rools! :-) and besides: dnb as a genre is pretty dead in my part of the woods. remedy? take junglist programming techniques and apply them to different sounds entirely, e.g. a kicked ball, computer keyboard, the pop-o-matic on your milton bradley TROUBLE board game (i know you have one ...). later, rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -the man cable- http://themancable.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the Reverend Rob schrieb: > > > On or around 06:08 PM 1/11/00 -0800, Rich said: > > >Try this, do the dnb at at least 250, and the hipsters will be forced to > >come up with some new obscure 'genre splitting' name for your new style! > > It turns into gods know what extremely quickly at that point; a guy I used > to play with in Chicago had this tendency just to see how on I was that > night by cranking the box to 280 or so. The only problem I had looping > with him at those speeds was at the time I didn't have enough loop devices > to hope to sync, and hadn't discovered the beautiful speed control on the > RDS-series delays. > > == > the Reverend Rob ICQ: 1280871 > http://www.realm-of-shde.com/music From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 15:09:38 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17600; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:09:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:09:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <387CDC28.F01737F9@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:55:20 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: First timer... References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> <4.1.20000111210425.0181b870@realm-of-shade.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VTo47.0.2h2.jtDVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com try this one at home: 1) slave a midi sequencer (e.g. mpc2000) to a jamman (MIDI master) or edp 2) set your sequencer to play a percussion-ish sequence 3) tap a VERY short loop tempo into the looper (e.g. <100ms) 4) laugh (hahaha) as your sequencer sputters and stutters out all sorts of gibberish 5) record this and resample the tastiest morsels to alexander: no offence from us grumpy son-of-a-know-it-all's, but make your own sounds and set your own tempos ... pfuk tha rools! :-) and besides: dnb as a genre is pretty dead in my part of the woods. remedy? take junglist programming techniques and apply them to different sounds entirely, e.g. a kicked ball, computer keyboard, the pop-o-matic on your milton bradley TROUBLE board game (i know you have one ...). later, rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -the man cable- http://themancable.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ the Reverend Rob schrieb: > > > On or around 06:08 PM 1/11/00 -0800, Rich said: > > >Try this, do the dnb at at least 250, and the hipsters will be forced to > >come up with some new obscure 'genre splitting' name for your new style! > > It turns into gods know what extremely quickly at that point; a guy I used > to play with in Chicago had this tendency just to see how on I was that > night by cranking the box to 280 or so. The only problem I had looping > with him at those speeds was at the time I didn't have enough loop devices > to hope to sync, and hadn't discovered the beautiful speed control on the > RDS-series delays. > > == > the Reverend Rob ICQ: 1280871 > http://www.realm-of-shde.com/music From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 15:42:03 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17865; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:42:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:42:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002b01bf5d56$3690e7a0$f8b8173f@GTEtesh> From: "nitesh atel" To: References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: First timer... Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:39:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"lLeah.0.lR2.jKEVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I HAVE VIDEO WAVE BY MPI AND ILLUMINITI BY IMI YOU CAN HAVE EM FOR 75.00 DOLLARS +SHIPPING AND HANDLING AND I ALSO HAVE SOUND FORGE 4.5 ,ACID 1.0 ,REBIRTH,RECYCLE AND A CAKEWALK I'LL GIVE YOU FOR 200 YOU'LL HAVE FULL VIDEO AND AUDIO AT AN AWESOME PRICE THEY'VE BEEN CRACKED AND ARE READY TO USE ALL EXCEPT THE CAKE WALK 8.0 I BOUGHT AND 4 OTHER FRIENDS BOUGHT THE OTHER ONES SO WE CAN SEE WHICH ONES THE BEST FOR YOU. I HAVE TWO DISKS FOR ACID 1 I GOT STREET SOUNDS AND BREAKBEATS I'LL THROW IN FOR FREE REMEMBER I'M JUST ANOTHER MUSICIAN TRYIN TO HELP U GET WERE YOUR GOIN PEACE TESH TESH@GTE.NET ----- Original Message ----- From: David Myers To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:12 PM Subject: Re: First timer... > Recently, a guy at work asked me if I knew anything about computer programs > for video - he wanted to start doing his own music videos. I said great, > what kind of music do you do? He said, I haven't done any yet, can you > recommend software to do music with? So he's not a musician and not > familiar with video, but he wants to pick up some software to make him an > artist, I guess. Am I just old fashioned? I love technology, but I hope > art has to come from something else; these goodies can only be a tool. > > Speaking of goodies, has anyone here seen the new Apple flat screen? > Ohmygod, everyone at my shop got a super hard on for it. Unbelievable. > The only non (specifically) music piece of gear to give me serious G.A.S. > in ages.... > > David Myers > > >I like this e-mail list and all, but what on earth is this doing here? > >Jeez, make up your own mind, and your own music. What are we going to tell > >you that you aren't going to have to try yourself anyway and see if it works? > > > >Try this, do the dnb at at least 250, and the hipsters will be forced to > >come up with some new obscure 'genre splitting' name for your new style! > > > > > >At 01:04 AM 1/12/00 GMT, you wrote: > >>Here's my deal. > >> > >>I'm interested in making an unholy industrial / drum 'n' bass hybrid sort of > >>music, but first I need to understand some things about each... I am using > >>Fruityloops TS404 (v 1.7.6) with Goldwave and Soundforge to sample, and > >>Simsynth, Drumsynth, and Subsynth to create cool sounds. > >> > >>1. What's the "best" tempo for recording what I want to create? I find > >>that fairly speedy Industrial clocks in at 140 bpm, and I read somewhere > >>that dnb clocks 180 or above. Should I go for a median, or just do a dnb > >>speed like 170 and improvise on really fast industrial parts? > >> > >>2. Are there any good, free, and really wicked samples out there? I've > >>used up Analogue Samples, Kalava, and Samplenet. How about some free Synth > >>software (can't have too much) > >> > >>3. Can anyone write up a couple of example melodies that would be used for > >>a synth or bass line in dnb? I guess written in standard notation would be > >>nice, but if you can't, just do "Do, Ra, Me, Fa..." etc. > >> > >>That's about it. Thanks a lot. > >>______________________________________________________ > >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >> > >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 15:36:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12595; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:36:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:36:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002101bf5d55$58cb8740$f8b8173f@GTEtesh> From: "nitesh atel" To: References: <20000112040748.14906.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: sp202 and darla for sale Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:32:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"p60A6.0.B01.uEEVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com no thanks i have asr10 and sp808 i just wanted the sp202 groove box to mix music. on the go anyways i hear it works on batteries and has a semi sound base + it's portable compared to my big guns i have rebirth,recycle,sound forge 4.5 and sound forge acid 1 if you want it i'll give all of them for a 100.00 that's what i paid for it tesh@gte.net sorry it wasn't the one i wanted oh i'll throw in cake walk 8.0 professional if you want for 25 dollars that'll give you sound recorders you can pick which one you like the best your friend tesh patel call if u want em 813-653-1266 any time that's the number in my studio i got 2 1200's and a vestax mixing workstation le and i got cdj100s 2 of em with a pioneer mixer that has auto start just fade pAST THE MIDDLE AND WHERE EVER YOU CUE IT BEGINS I HAVE FOUR CD BURNERS AND ONE CD WRITER HOPE MAYBE SOME OF WHAT I HAVE WILL HELP YOU GET YOUR MUSIC GOING. PEACE ----- Original Message ----- From: dan sumner To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 8:07 PM Subject: Re: sp202 and darla for sale > the sp202 is called the dr sample. You can read about > it at the boss site. > > --- nitesh atel wrote: > > sold sp202 drum machine right i m all over it if its > > the groove box > > tesh@gte.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: dan sumner > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 6:09 AM > > Subject: sp202 and darla for sale > > > > > > > I have a sp202 with a 4 MB card for sale 250 > > > >and a Darla sound card for 150 > > > >Thought I'd offer it here first. > > > > > > > >Please email privately > > > > > > > >Dan Sumner > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 16:43:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05114; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:43:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:43:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:11 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: DL4 firmware rumour & mm4 price deal at alto. Resent-Message-ID: <"28_GO3.0.8V.RGFVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >According to line 6 the firmware upgrade is not true. > >Here is what I heard from them. > >Line6 >>> >Unfortunately, that is not true. There are no plans for an upgrade for the >DL4 or any other pedals. Maybe in the future. Keep viewing our website, >www.line6.com for all updated information. > > > >Me Really? I spoke to a tech-support person there just a few days ago, and he specifically gave me a return authorization to get the firmware in my unit changed. He told me about the power-up version test. I swear I wasn't halucinating.... ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 16:39:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02955; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:39:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:39:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C413001D@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: england Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:30:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"ipBFH3.0.bB7.VAFVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com howdy loopoids, my wife and i are heading to london in late march (nice and cold i hear) for a well-deserved vacation. i'm looking for info from our english brethren (and sistern, too) on venues in london (or otherwise) that feature live music in the "avant-garde" vein; mostly improv is what i'm looking for. so . . . any clubs, halls or publications that i should know about? (not adverse to knowing about some techno- or electronica-type stuff either.) private e-mail would be best. thanks fer yer help, stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 17:15:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22068; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:15:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:15:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000112220752.45512.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [198.140.4.14] From: "sean kroah" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 firmware rumour & mm4 price deal at alto. Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 17:07:52 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"GHG-N1.0.ob4.PjFVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oh I believe. The test you gave out did what you said. Maybe I got the wrong chud at line6. That's what they told me though. I'd be curious to know what the firmware upgrade fixes. Let us know when you get your box back. SKroah >From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: DL4 firmware rumour & mm4 price deal at alto. >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:11 -0800 > > >According to line 6 the firmware upgrade is not true. > > > >Here is what I heard from them. > > > >Line6 > >>> > >Unfortunately, that is not true. There are no plans for an upgrade for >the > >DL4 or any other pedals. Maybe in the future. Keep viewing our website, > >www.line6.com for all updated information. > > > > > > > >Me >Really? I spoke to a tech-support person there just a few days ago, and he >specifically gave me a return authorization to get the firmware in my unit >changed. He told me about the power-up version test. I swear I wasn't >halucinating.... > >________________________________________________________ >Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ > >"...there will come a day when you won't have to use >gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in >your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper >type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em >together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em >together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." > -Sun Ra >________________________________________________________ > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 19:46:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27469; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:46:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:46:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002d01bf5d5c$b81dd340$b122dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> <002b01bf5d56$3690e7a0$f8b8173f@GTEtesh> Subject: Video Editing Software Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:25:37 -0800 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <"rlh503.0.ST2.ejHVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I can concur on MGI's VideoWave. It's an outstandingly versatile, and user-friendly video editing program. And it lists at $99. So there, Adobe! However, I frown on "cracking" software, as it's copyright infringement on programmers' work, some of whom are probably also musicians, in this case. [slapping "nitesh"'s virtual hands]. Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Jan 12 21:47:41 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA32767; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:47:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:47:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:44:55 -0500 From: George McConnell Subject: Bill Frisell To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <03a201bf5d70$2d962c40$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"VAz3e2.0.yL6.LhJVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering if there was any Bill Frisell fans out there. I had the pleasure of seing him perform at the TLA here in Philly, with Greg Leisz on Steel guitar. He worked up some incredible loops and almost the entire time they played he was fooling with an effects unit. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 02:09:08 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27844; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 02:09:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 02:09:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:58:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001130658.AAA26850@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: A cool Link Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id BAA19418 Resent-Message-ID: <"p2OJy.0.sl4.wUNVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey every body, if you have the time check out this European page, interesting influences and goals, as well as a very ancient analogy for "Looping" a sistem feeding into itself and all kinds of weird music links: http://www.absurdevidence.radiostudent.si/jgrzinich Another think, I´ve heard of an institute in France for music experimentation or something like that, doees anybody has a link to this thing? maybe the French Loopers out there could help out a bit more with this? smaug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 05:56:57 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14401; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 05:56:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 05:56:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <387CF3F6.8B0212FD@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:36:54 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: First timer... References: <20000112010431.90269.qmail@hotmail.com> <002b01bf5d56$3690e7a0$f8b8173f@GTEtesh> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"c3eMC2.0.pO5.vVQVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hehehe ... that's just too dumb ... i think i would keep that sorta stuff private ... rob > I HAVE VIDEO WAVE BY MPI AND ILLUMINITI BY IMI YOU CAN HAVE EM ... > I'LL GIVE YOU FOR 200 ... THEY'VE BEEN CRACKED > TESH@GTE.NET From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 08:02:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00672; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:02:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:02:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <91.ed3530.25af2356@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:47:18 EST Subject: Re: A cool Link To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 32 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id HAA24182 Resent-Message-ID: <"UAqOv.0.6w5.vbSVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 13/01/00 07:08:54 GMT Standard Time, smaug@servidor.unam.mx writes: > Another think, I´ve heard of an institute in France for music > experimentation or something like that, doees anybody has a link to this > thing? maybe the French Loopers out there could help out a bit more with > this? > "IRCAM" is probably what you're after, should be easy to find now you've got the name. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 09:29:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10666; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:29:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:29:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <40.63408d.25af362d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:07:41 EST Subject: Re: A cool Link To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"wezti.0.4R.HnTVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com www.ircam.fr rodrigo > "IRCAM" is probably what you're after, should be easy to find now you've got > the name. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 12:05:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31749; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:05:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:05:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000113115457.008c2830@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:54:57 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 vs. DL4 In-Reply-To: <9b.9b58458d.25ab1cc2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"pwKAd.0.dl6.9BWVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 06:30 AM 01/10/2000 EST, you wrote: >the dl4 is about 5000% more versatile than the dd5. the dd5 doesn't even come >close. =-) PJ > ditto....just ONE setting on th edl4 has most of what the dd5 can do... Boss isfantastic - but this is another animal entirely! try em both out,decide for one's self ac *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 12:35:50 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09270; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:35:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:35:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000113122507.008c9450@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:25:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: DL4 Question In-Reply-To: <200001120241.VAA08377@ibm1.exotrope.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"r7MLM.0.H51.OdWVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09:42 PM 01/11/2000 -0500, you wrote: >NO! You must do Acid. > >---------- >>From: George McConnell >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: Re: DL4 Question >>Date: Tue, Jan 11, 2000, 8:57 PM >> > >> Cool, you mean I can sound like Jimi Hendrix without doing acid??!!! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: G716 >> To: you're all crazy!!! how could Jimi do ACID -- he didnt even have a computer!! and i know for fact that the Acid software was only a twinkle in it's processor's LED eye back in 1970 - when JH perished... Jimi was analog,man!! get with it! *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 13:21:23 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24708; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:21:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:21:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000113130903.008d8be0@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:09:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: Korg AX1000G..and reflexively -the korg ax300G In-Reply-To: <387CA123.A3DEA01@minds-eye.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"3SKdP.0.Ab4.eGXVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >The sound is pretty good and the echoes and reverbs are nice, but >overall this falls far short of the possibilities that could have been >with this unit. If you like to change your settings with knobs and >dials and you're looking for a basic, portable effects unit its not bad >for $235, but otherwise there's not too much to recommend this unit (and >I thought its predessor the AX300G was a fanatastic effects unit. >Anyone know where to buy discontinued effects cheap?). > >Kevin > I 2ND AND 3RD the motion on the AX300G--i love this unit -- it has served me well on tour,in studioandjust screwing around tons of sounds..very overlooked unit when it arrived..the wah alone is almost worth it -- not to mention the very wild oscillator - and ring modulator, tremelo,etc- and all the 100 other usual fx. run towards one of these when ya see them used. andre' *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 13:20:18 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24582; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:20:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:20:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000113131113.00871100@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:11:13 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: Korg AX300G on ebay In-Reply-To: <387CA123.A3DEA01@minds-eye.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"hafXa2.0.au4.eIXVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com in fact - there's one on ebay -- it's at $86 with the reserve not met http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=234856680 *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 14:03:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11511; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:03:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:03:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387E1E1D.7DE5D0E1@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:49:09 -0800 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: Bill Frisell References: <03a201bf5d70$2d962c40$bec17690@resnet.drexel.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3l01c3.0.j01.ttXVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com george mcconnell wrote: > I was wondering if there was any Bill Frisell fans out there. I had the > pleasure of seing him perform at the TLA here in Philly, with Greg Leisz on > Steel guitar. He worked up some incredible loops and almost the entire time > they played he was fooling with an effects unit. oh, yes. but there seem to be at least two factions: one pre-nashville/good dog... (i.e. more experimental) the other groovin' to the post-industrial americana of his more recent albums. i, for one, like both facets of his work; seeing him live with liesz made a believer out of me with respect to his recent material. hearing him play around with short loops and delays while liesz created mellifluous gobs of distorted tonal splendour on a lap steel is quite something. best, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 15:40:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25367; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:40:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:40:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000113153347.008e8260@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:33:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: def. LOOPING Content JFK'sLSD UFO live.. in NJ sat jan 15 In-Reply-To: <200001130658.AAA26850@servidor.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"c-btG1.0.tK5.HOZVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com greetings..... a quick note to inform... a night of experiments, poetic insanity,percussion, and looping at the COURT TAVERN JFK's LSD UFO Alice B Talkless LUNAR BEAR with JOHN RICHEY Sat Jan 15 2000 10:30pm doors JFK's is on last -- about 12:30am.... this is my duo with Cheri Jiosne on drums,percussion,& synth i play guitar/synth and do some looped/processed vocalisation. check out MP3's (soon!!""!??!) at www.ufomusic.com also--sat jan 15 ct tavern -Check out the legendary band Lunar Bear - with original members John Richey - vocals/poetry, Tom Diello- bass, and Sluggo-guitar.Joining them is ex Sonny Sharrock/ Cassandra Wilson drummer Lance Carter..and guitarist Jack Petruzelliofthe Joan Osborne band and the FAb Fuax. we also have --coming up Fri Jan 28 @ No Ordinary Joe's 730 pm -10:30pm bRoad st red bank nj Fri Feb 18 knitting Factory - NYC www.knittingfactory.com Knitactive Sound Stage 8pm 212-219-3006 thank ya fer reading this!!! happy 2000!! *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 17:28:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16928; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:28:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:28:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <9f.c80526.25afa9b9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:20:41 EST Subject: cakewalk Pro Audio 8 for sale To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 65 Resent-Message-ID: <"ND1_s.0.T03.Z_aVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I've gone Mac. In addition to the disc, there's the User's Guide and tech support i.d. I'd like $200. Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 18:48:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32555; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:48:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:48:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000113233900.66835.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [151.201.25.95] From: "sean kroah" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: A cool Link Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:39:00 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"QMP2W2.0.mS6.s8cVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You would'nt be refering to Boulez's Ircam would you. Not sure of the link but if you search on ircam or pierre boulez you'll find it. There website is mostly in french but lots of interesting stuff there. SKroah >From: Andy Soto >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: A cool Link >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:58:43 -0600 (CST) > > > Hey every body, if you have the time check out this European page, >interesting influences and goals, as well as a very ancient analogy for >"Looping" a sistem feeding into itself and all kinds of weird music links: > > http://www.absurdevidence.radiostudent.si/jgrzinich > > > Another think, I´ve heard of an institute in France for music >experimentation or something like that, doees anybody has a link to this >thing? maybe the French Loopers out there could help out a bit more with >this? > > > smaug > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 19:03:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08470; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:03:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:03:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000113235026.46067.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.218.209.143] From: "George Washington" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Can any one recommend a good volume/expression/wha pedal Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:50:26 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"02jOb1.0.GI.iJcVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I am going to have my 3ms pedals customized to have expesion pedals control most of the pots functions, as well as needing an expression for my Dl4,my vortex, and wanting acoulple of volume pedals in my effects chain so could anyone out there reccomend some good ones. Thanks Jeremiah ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 19:03:37 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08808; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:03:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:03:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387E6591.5EB7E57A@pop.agri.ch> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 00:53:52 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs=20Turi=F1o?= Reply-To: j-turino@pop.agri.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Hendrix References: <200001120455.XAA03417@rosy.yourwebhost.com> <387CD3B6.6C435639@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DAC2EE688FE26924F56E778C" Resent-Message-ID: <"_clH_3.0.i11.mNcVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. --------------DAC2EE688FE26924F56E778C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you think you're cool on acid ... but record your stuff when you're stone= d & listen to it when you're down ... it sounds like sh=E7=E7. and don't forget ... hendrix did his best records when he was whitout drugs. (... hendrix without drugs ;-)) Gareth Whittock schrieb: > > > > Cool, you mean I can sound like Jimi Hendrix without doing acid??!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > NO! You must do Acid. > > > > If you do acid you will probably THINK you sound like Hendrix. > > This reminds me of a time when I was thumbing a lift home from Reading > Festival still buzzing. I got a lift in an ice cream van for 200 miles.= > All the way the cooling unit seemed to be playing the most amazing > guitar music! > > Gareth --------------DAC2EE688FE26924F56E778C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="j-turino.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Visitenkarte fŸr Jesœs Turi–o Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="j-turino.vcf" begin:vcard n:Turiño ;Jesús tel;fax:+41 41 761 33 91 (G) tel;home:+41 41 210 39 69 tel;work:+41 41 761 26 42 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.i45.ch org:i45 Zug adr:;;Waldstätterstrasse 16;Luzern;Luzern;6003;Switzerland version:2.1 email;internet:j-turino@pop.agri.ch x-mozilla-cpt:;1 fn:Jesús Turiño end:vcard --------------DAC2EE688FE26924F56E778C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 19:30:46 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25397; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:30:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:30:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000114011759.0081bde0@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:17:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl?= Bonell =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Subject: Plex FootController In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000113153347.008e8260@mail.monmouth.com> References: <200001130658.AAA26850@servidor.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id TAA09709 Resent-Message-ID: <"hy86T1.0.CO2.EXcVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all ! does anybody among you know where to buy plex footcontrollers ? also, if possible, which MIDI footcontroller may i use as alternative ? any experience with this ? thanks in advance RBT //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// D o c t o r S a x N e w s New CD-R Release ! Price: 3 EUROS (including packing & postage) or trading for a cd / tape of your music. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Raül Bonell Tomàs http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 20:04:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15390; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:04:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:04:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000114000405.93817.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [199.179.170.153] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: casio sk1/ I have 2 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:04:05 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6afe530e_38bc5c91$60d6d89f" Resent-Message-ID: <"iEBZz.0.9J2.OWcVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6afe530e_38bc5c91$60d6d89f Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_55e79347_38bc5c91$60d6d89f" ------=_NextPart_001_55e79347_38bc5c91$60d6d89f Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I have 2, that I can unload, with manuals.....Contact me at DJ-Devious_d@hotmail.com ----Original Message Follows---- From: Michael Schmid Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: casio sk1 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:27:45 +0100 I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly everything. -- michael schmid // vienna // austria ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_001_55e79347_38bc5c91$60d6d89f Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed
                 
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I'm searching for a CASIO SK1 or SK5. Any idea? I pay nearly everything.

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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:40:19 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"nzaTf2.0.ac7.N2dVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It looks like new Rocktron All Access footcontrollers are not available these days. Any one know of a used one for sale? Are there other foot controllers that do as much? Thanks in advance for any help!!! Papa Dave papadave55@hotmail.com Om and Out ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Jan 13 23:39:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA08757; Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:39:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:39:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <387EA4CD.E5E30858@texas.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:23:42 -0600 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Pseudo Buddha realaudio stuff posted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jcR3V2.0.bJ7.HGgVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all - the website for pseudo buddha (a band which features a coupla looper's delight listers) is up. under construction but up. all of the tracks from our cd motive are on there as realaudio plus a tune i did for the nemoguitt chain tape project last year. http://www.pseudobuddha.com check it out if'n you got time. thanks! bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 01:42:25 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA31169; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:42:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:42:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <016d01bf5e59$37755580$f80c1a3f@newmicronpc> From: "James Ko" To: References: <200001130658.AAA26850@servidor.unam.mx> Subject: String sizes and other advice needed Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:32:42 -0500 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"LfDkS2.0.yw7.13iVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, I would appreciate some advice on string gauges and computer recording. Question 1: I decided to turn an old, standard scaled electric guitar of mine (an 80's G&L SC-3) into a lower register guitar. I want to get down to a B or C on the 6th string. What string gauges would be necessary to keep aproximately the same tension as if it were strung up in standard pitch with 9's or 10's? If anyone plays a 7 string, what gauge is your lowest (B?) string? Also, I know there are some Crafty Guitarists out there: What gauges do you guys use especially for your 6th string? Question 2: It just so happens that this guitar has it's original Wilkinson roller nut that unfortunately will not accomodate anything larger than a set of 11's. Does anyone know if they make these roller nuts with large spaces for thicker strings or will I have to bring it in to a repair guy for a regular nut? With the present set, I can only get it down to a D and even that is on the slack side making playing with proper intonation difficult on lower fret positions. Question 3: I have ordered a non-SCSI computer recently and am thinking of using it for recording. How necessary is it to be SCSI for recording hardware/software to be effective? Thanks alot Jim Ko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 02:36:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16269; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:36:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:36:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ba01bf5e5f$50101ac0$2982bc3e@default> Reply-To: "Gareth Whittock" From: "Gareth Whittock" To: Subject: Re:new zoom looper Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:16:09 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="----------------------------"; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"kMrwp.0.TQ7.GxiVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Zoom have a new foot pedal out. Looks good. It seems to have 2 * 6sec delays plus a 12s jam play feature and a 25 second sampler. I don't know what combination they can be used in but theres an assignable foot pedal, footswitches etc. 20bit a/d d/a so it's clean. I'll check it out asap. Oh and there's an editor for the onboard patches for pc and mac. Presumably this allows for real time manipulation of parameters via midi. Anyway, it's called GFX8 if anyone's tried it I'd be keen to hear of your impressions. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 02:49:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30221; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:49:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:49:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:30:28 EST Subject: Re: Boss DD-5 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"v-ZI92.0._d2.t2jVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> While I agree taht the DL4 is the more versitle delay it does not have >>> the one simple feature theboss Dl5 does and that's a simple delay that >>> you can switch to be an infinte loops *FROM DELAY MODE*. How do you mean from delay mode? On my DD-5 the only permanent hold setting does only that - it is not a delay but a 2-second sampler. On the delay modes you can crank the feed back for not-quite-infinite loops (they decay over a minute or so) and you cant, solo over the loop, unless you use the HOLD setting, which is a short samlpe/hold and not a delay. Hopefully I'm missing something? Please enlighten! I've loaned out my DD-5 since getting the DL-4! eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 08:30:57 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA13671; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:30:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:30:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <387F1090.8A4C336B@compuserve.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:03:28 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: themancable.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cq38N.0.iE.8znVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello loopers, i've got version 1.0 of my web site up and running. it's at: if you have time, please tell me whatcha like/dislike etc. the audio is raw material i'm using in my current project: "recastenate" i'm currently busy cutting this stuff up and reprogramming it ... later, rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -the man cable- http://themancable.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 10:04:15 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02589; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:04:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:04:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: <19.75f01e.25b0930c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:56:12 EST Subject: Re: String sizes and other advice needed To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 45 Resent-Message-ID: <"hlrBb3.0.qJ6.qapVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 01/14/2000 1:42:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, Kojaque@email.msn.com writes: << Question 1: I decided to turn an old, standard scaled electric guitar of mine (an 80's G&L SC-3) into a lower register guitar. I want to get down to a B or C on the 6th string. What string gauges would be necessary to keep aproximately the same tension as if it were strung up in standard pitch with 9's or 10's? If anyone plays a 7 string, what gauge is your lowest (B?) string? Also, I know there are some Crafty Guitarists out there: What gauges do you guys use especially for your 6th string? >> Try the following gauges available from GHS.. 6th: C76 tune to A (compound wound) 5th: C52 tune to D (compound wound) 4th: 022 tune to G (higher octave) 3rd: 018 tune to C (higher octave) 2nd: 026 tune to E 1st 018 tune to A This will give you an interesting (Alto) guitar sound...and put some of your harmony in the middle strings, inverting the tone...great for fingerstyle work....If you get a friend to play a Requinto (mexican) small guitar tuned to the same tuning, but an octave higher...together you'll sound like a grand piano...:-) I use this as an alternate guitar for solo work often, as it increases the tonal range of the instrument and covers the bottom end nicely and produces interesting harmonies, a well.....I understand the studio guitarist Joe Beck also uses a similar tuning, on a Cort Alto guitar with a 24 3/4" scale. With this tuning you just play as you would normally...some songs sound better than others, of course...but you don't have to "learn" to play a new tuning or new instrument, like a 7 string...it's a good way of expanding your tone and sound, economically, and easily. You may have to fool with the nut to get the action the way you want it, and of course the bridge. I've got an ES-330, a nylvon flamenco and an ES175D configured that way. and, my Flaquinto which is a double neck Flamenco/Requinto. FOr the nylon string I've been using Bronze Pearse 076, and 052 for the 6th and 5th...then, I use strings from a Requinto set (nylon for the two middle strings, and I use the standard (2nd and 3rd nylon strings) for the 1st and 2nd strings....it works...and doesn't seem to put any "new added" tension to the neck...sounds cool, too! I'd like to get the flamenco/classical string manufacturers to produce a standard set of strings for this application...I hate to break up so many sets just to get the strings I want, and not all are easily available as singles.... Hope this gives you some ideas.... Regards, Wayne Wesley Johnson Johnson / Romero Review ~ Indie-Music.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 10:54:30 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00524; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:54:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:54:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:40:23 -0600 Subject: Rocktron All Acces on ebay From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0-r_o2.0.Ay5.nDqVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone was looking for this: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=235686299 TH -- Tiktok: Austin's Premier One-Man Ambient Band http://home.sprintmail.com/~tiktok/ MP3's available from: www.rollingstone.com www.mp3.com www.austinmp3.com Purchase Tiktok CD's at: https://order.kagi.com/cgi-bin/r1.cgi?UX9&&lang=en From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 13:10:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12676; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:10:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:10:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000114180306.25087.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.86] From: "Greg S" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <200001130658.AAA26850@servidor.unam.mx> <016d01bf5e59$37755580$f80c1a3f@newmicronpc> Subject: Re: String sizes and other advice needed Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:03:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <"QMTx11.0.HW1.-JsVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Question 1: I decided to turn an old, standard scaled electric guitar of >Also, I know there are some Crafty Guitarists out there: What > gauges do you guys use especially for your 6th string? Low C string: Acoustic: 58 is recommended and part of the John Pearse NST set. (I use 56) Electric: Lots of variety..... Everything from 52 to 60. http://www.seattlecircle.com/instruction/curtgolden/cg3_tuning.htm http://www.seattlecircle.com/guitardock/archive/qa_arc.htm#q01 > Question 2: It just so happens that this guitar has it's original > Wilkinson roller nut .... I can't recommend the Graph-tech graphite nuts enough! Same simple, traditional design. Completely new performance. http://www.graphtech.bc.ca/tremnut.html I changed a strat of mine to use a GraphTech nut. I was blown away at how the string returns to pitch after near Eddie Van Halen dive-bombs (which I rarely do anyway). I'm using an American Standard Strat w/OUT locking tuners. ALL future guitars of mine will have this nut. It's no surprise that they're becoming standard issue on many guitars. It's a relatively simple retrofit that you could do yourself. To have a luthier fit it and shape it appropriately would probably run between $30 and $50 bucks -- best price/performance you'll ever get for a tuning stability modification. > Question 3: I have ordered a non-SCSI computer recently and am thinking > of I've been using a PII-350 without SCSI and it works fine. I do have 198MB RAM which really helps. The software I use is Cakewalk's Guitar Studio v. 1. I'd expect similar success with most popular HD recording software as well. Good luck. Greg From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 14:22:19 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32568; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:22:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:22:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:15:52 -0800 From: "sock s" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Paradis delay "Break" function question X-Sender-Ip: 216.90.139.17 Organization: N2Mail (http://www.n2mail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GC6wm3.0.7c6.0OtVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering, what all did the "Break" function/concept do on the Paradis loop delay ? What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. http://www.n2mail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 14:40:27 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18864; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:40:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:40:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014b01bf5ec5$e4260b50$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Paradis delay "Break" function question Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:31:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PLkL43.0.zc2.IetVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's the same as the MUTE on the EDP, so I'm told. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: sock s To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 2:27 PM Subject: Paradis delay "Break" function question >I was wondering, what all did the "Break" function/concept do on the Paradis loop delay ? > > >What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. >http://www.n2mail.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 17:55:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14683; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:55:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:55:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:37:31 -0600 Subject: "No Sound Is Innocent" availabe at borders.com From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mg_X22.0.Pt7.bSwVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Some people have expressed interest in the difficult to find book on improvisation. Written by Eddie Prevost of AMM. TH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 20:11:44 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12991; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:11:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:11:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Bad-Idea: su; rm -rf / X-Blasphemy: Invert me under my stars. Message-Id: <4.1.20000114175413.00b8f760@realm-of-shade.com> X-Sender: reverendrob@realm-of-shade.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:02:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: the Reverend Rob Subject: Re: microsynth In-Reply-To: <200001150049.TAA25620@ibm1.exotrope.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"s2h9C1.0.bp1.3WyVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At or around 07:49 PM 1/14/00 -0500, Schindler wrote: >anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in conjunction >with a looper? (either before or after the looper) Any tips? or envelope >filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the bass microsynth - what >do you think? I've been using a variety of envelope filters for some time, from the basic EH Bassballs pedal to the rather odd sounds that come out of the envelopes on the old Boss ME-6B bass unit, both with regular six-string guitar. It's really not much different using the filters before a loop than any other effect, so I can't quite understand your question. Running into a loop, you get looped pseudo-synth wierdness; it's responsible for quite a few of the sounds I rely on regularly. == the Reverend Rob ICQ: 1280871 Yahoo: theReverendRob http://www.realm-of-shade.com .`. .`. .`. .`. http://www.qblh.com ================================================================= "I prefer not to kill people, but I'd like to destroy as much property as possible." - Grace Slick, from the Airplane FBI file ================================================================= http://www.realm-of-shade.com/music : feedback and echo MP3s From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 19:55:14 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24573; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:55:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:55:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001150049.TAA25620@ibm1.exotrope.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:49:39 -0500 Subject: microsynth From: "Schindler" To: loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4QcU3.0.8x3.4GyVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in conjunction with a looper? (either before or after the looper) Any tips? or envelope filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the bass microsynth - what do you think? Aaron From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 20:17:30 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19741; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:17:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:17:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000114170923.00858710@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:09:23 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: microsynth In-Reply-To: <200001150049.TAA25620@ibm1.exotrope.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"cXnk_2.0.s13.sayVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Everybody's experience and needs differ, i am sure, but i must say i was completely disappointed with the EH Microsynths. I was really excited when they reissued them. Also, about the same time, I switched bands and moved from guitar to bass. I was going to buy a Bass Microsynth in conjunction with my Jam Man. Both the guitar and the bass model just didn't seem to bite into the signal very much, and when it did, I didn't care for the sound. Also, the interface seemed kindof unintuitive for me. But, again, that's just me. On the other hand, i have been experimenting with the Electrix Filter Factory at the music stores. A bit more expensive than the EH micros, (and a rackmount unit) but ZOWEE...I love the sounds. I will definitely be keeping that on my wish list. Some others have recommended the Sherman Filterbank, but i have yet to find it, either in the stores, or on the web. Help anyone??? good luck, rich At 07:49 PM 1/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in conjunction >with a looper? (either before or after the looper) Any tips? or envelope >filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the bass microsynth - what >do you think? > >Aaron > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 21:37:23 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27254; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:37:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:37:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000115023119.6545.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:31:19 -0800 (PST) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: microsynth To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"7uI611.0.Rg4.ylzVu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com BUY IT YOU'LL LIKE IT --- Schindler wrote: > anyone have experience using an electro harmonix > microsynth in conjunction > with a looper? (either before or after the looper) > Any tips? or envelope > filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the > bass microsynth - what > do you think? > > Aaron > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Jan 14 23:41:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01168; Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:41:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 23:41:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000115043413.87357.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: microsynth Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:34:12 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"rPzDE3.0.HM6.dZ_Vu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've done both. It's probably more useful before the looper, because that lets you hear what you're putting in. While experimenting, try using it after the looper once you have a good loop. The attack delay function makes it really interesting to fade things in and out. You can also move the start and stop frequency levers by hand to create custom sweeps. The trigger function (the one that initiates attack delays and automatic sweeps) only works sometimes on mine, but it's still one of my favorite tools. Matt Davignon >From: "Schindler" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: microsynth >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:49:39 -0500 > >anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in conjunction >with a looper? (either before or after the looper) Any tips? or envelope >filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the bass microsynth - what >do you think? > >Aaron > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 06:11:25 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11523; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 06:11:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 06:11:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <388053ED.B4C707B7@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 06:03:09 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: microsynth References: <20000115043413.87357.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1dtci2.0.uC1.4I5Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone know where to find those slider pots used on the Micro Synth? My trigger slider went out completly on my original and battered unit. I used to be able to get it to work by abusing it ... but now its its not mearly dead, its really dead. jd matt davignon wrote: > > The trigger function (the one that initiates attack delays and automatic > sweeps) only works sometimes on mine, but it's still one of my favorite > tools. > > Matt Davignon > > >From: "Schindler" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: microsynth > >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:49:39 -0500 > > > >anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in conjunction > >with a looper? (either before or after the looper) Any tips? or envelope > >filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the bass microsynth - what > >do you think? > > > >Aaron > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 09:41:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02495; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:41:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:41:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:51:25 EST Subject: Re: Can any one recommend a good volume/expression/wha pedal To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 32 Resent-Message-ID: <"raGGD1.0.ew3.Bk7Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 14/01/00 00:02:35 GMT Standard Time, jeremiah266@hotmail.com writes: > Hello, > I am going to have my 3ms pedals customized to have expesion pedals control > most of the pots functions, as well as needing an expression for my Dl4,my > vortex, and wanting acoulple of volume pedals in my effects chain so could > anyone out there reccomend some good ones. have a look at the Lexic on Vortex Database for vortex pedals. Volume peds, get a Morley if you can( Zero scratchyness, optical mechanism). Watch out for vintage vol peds which give a significant drop in overall volume (though OK if you can compensate with a mixer). Back then they didn't have the special pots they have nowadays. Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 11:51:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03446; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:51:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:51:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3880A390.772DDBE8@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:42:56 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Can any one recommend a good volume/expression/wha pedal References: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1bASs2.0.Ah7.cGAWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I love the Morley optical pot. aspect, however on my Morley wah/vol I was disappointed that the volume part is audio taper not linear taper, some might find this a good thing but I cannot do the same type swells that I could w/ my older Morley wah/vol non optical linear taper pot. True about the volume decrease in the older one though. The difference is that linear taper is a steady increase in volume over the range of the pedal while the audio taper stacks up incrementally. I am sorry I can't explain the differences better. Anyone else? peace, jd SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 14/01/00 00:02:35 GMT Standard Time, > jeremiah266@hotmail.com writes: > > > Hello, > > I am going to have my 3ms pedals customized to have expesion pedals > control > > most of the pots functions, as well as needing an expression for my Dl4,my > > vortex, and wanting acoulple of volume pedals in my effects chain so could > > anyone out there reccomend some good ones. > have a look at the Lexic > on Vortex Database for vortex pedals. > Volume peds, get a Morley if you can( Zero scratchyness, optical mechanism). > Watch out for vintage vol peds which give a significant drop in overall > volume (though OK if you can compensate with a mixer). > Back then they didn't have the special pots they have nowadays. > > Andy Butler > Lexicon Vortex Database > http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 13:13:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01872; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:13:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:13:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <3b.4580b6.25b210be@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:04:46 EST Subject: Re: microsynth To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"6hMeO.0.nt6.lRBWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You can find info on the sherman filterbank at this address-http://www.ping.be/sherman/ when I bought mine I had to order it from a distributor in Minnesota I believe. I live in Chicago and nobody carried it that I knew of. In school we get free copies of electronic musician and I started a discussion of the filterbank from an ad I saw. It turned out a classmate had one and I was able to have an audition of it. I like the sound of the electrix filters but felt that it's buzz setting didn't quite cut it. The sherman's filters are really extreme, the electrix can't compare in the range available for sonic mutilation. It's also nice to have the FM and AM available. Since it's true analog it does have a warm sound. The warmness is more modern sounding than say a seventies kind of warm so I feel it doesn't alienate people who may be used to hearing a harsher digital filter sound. The unit is also well constructed. I recommend you try to look up anything you are thinking of buying here first to see what others may say about the product. Synth Site - The World's Greatest Synth Resource signing off, Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 14:21:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02589; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:21:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:21:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: <3a.3f1e8c.25b21e2d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:02:05 EST Subject: Re: microsynth To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"WfKeA1.0.144.HHCWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/15/00 6:11:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmar@bellsouth.net writes: > Anyone know where to find those slider pots used on the Micro Synth? My > trigger > slider went out completly on my original and battered unit. I used to be > able to > get it to work by abusing it ... but now its its not mearly dead, its really > dead. hey jeff and the looper gang, email howard davis at: hdavis@pop.interport.net supposedly he use to work for e.h. he did help me out when my micro synth went under due to beer spillage got his address too.....let me know if ya need it. latter tatters, brian electric bird noise http://members.aol.com/ebnoise.index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 14:26:47 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06610; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:26:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:26:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: <35.680eb7.25b221a0@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:16:48 EST Subject: Re: microsynth To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"biX5x1.0.lP7.4VCWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 1/14/00 7:55:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, schindler@exotrope.net writes: > anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in conjunction > with a looper? (either before or after the looper) Any tips? or envelope > filters of any type? I am considering puchasing the bass microsynth - what > do you think? > i loves it! cant lives without it! gots some real audio up with micro / loops at: http://members.aol.com/ebnoise/index.html check out japanese toy song..........number four and holdin back the tears are infected as well. bye for now, brian electric bird noise http://members.aol.eboise/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 14:28:27 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08768; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:28:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:28:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Kiene's Fly Shop" To: "Delight List Looper's" Subject: EDP on E-Bay Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:22:02 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"gCt35.0.9R.tYCWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Just noticed a EDP on auction at e-bay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=238098829 I am in no way affiliated with the auction, just thought I'd point it out to any interested parties... _____________________________ Alan Barnard Digital Drummer/Percussionist e-drums@pacbell.net http://www.kiene.com/epercussion From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 15:02:51 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12567; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:02:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:02:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3880D089.A08DAB2E@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:54:49 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: microsynth References: <3a.3f1e8c.25b21e2d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"toWZL2.0.Gh1.e4DWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks brian, I'll e-mail him and see whats up. jd ENAT21213@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/15/00 6:11:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jmar@bellsouth.net writes: > > > Anyone know where to find those slider pots used on the Micro Synth? My > > trigger > . > > hey jeff and the looper gang, > > email howard davis at: > > hdavis@pop.interport.net > > supposedly he use to work for e.h. > he did help me out when my micro synth went under due to beer spillage > got his address too.....let me know if ya need it. > latter tatters, > brian > > electric bird noise > http://members.aol.com/ebnoise.index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 15:18:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28403; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:18:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:18:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: microsynth Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 15:16:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35.680eb7.25b221a0@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"SFBrx2.0.zo5.PJDWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't have the Micro Synth, but I used to have its big brother, the 3 rack space Guitar Synthesizer, which I used to loop into an Akai reel-to-reel. Scared the hell out of the cats. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > > anyone have experience using an electro harmonix microsynth in > conjunction > > with a looper? > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 20:52:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25106; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:52:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:52:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101bf5fbf$2e1fee20$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> From: "Brent" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 19:15:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF5F8C.E33932E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"mqPhZ2.0.n56.IkHWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF5F8C.E33932E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, my name is brent. Here's the thing: I saw someone use a jam man live = and i thought it rocked. i'm looking for a machine. although, i've read = some literature saying that they're are better loopers out now than the = jam man (besides the fact that they have been discontinued -last i = heard). Anyway, i don't even know how to go about buying one. i would = prefer to buy it used so as to cut the price down. can you please give = me some advice. -brent Broman@niu.edu ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF5F8C.E33932E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, my name is brent. Here's the = thing: I saw=20 someone use a jam man live and i thought it rocked. i'm looking for a = machine.=20 although, i've read some literature saying that they're are better = loopers out=20 now than the jam man (besides the fact that they have been discontinued = -last i=20 heard). Anyway, i don't even know how to go about buying one. i would = prefer to=20 buy it used so as to cut the price down. can you please give me some=20 advice.
 
-brent
Broman@niu.edu
= ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF5F8C.E33932E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Jan 15 23:38:28 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09548; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:38:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:38:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000115231625.007b2b00@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:16:25 -0500 To: WyrdStick@aol.com, willy@wmld.com, scott_christensen@ck6.uscourts.gov, Qraymond@panther.middlebury.edu, aprasad@innerviews.org, rob@murple.com, KVNCutler@aol.com, 102001.76@compuserve.com, ellen.hathaway@pobox.com, Daniwilli@aol.com, killgoreone@yahoo.com, Stacy_Wells@ccm.intel.com, augie.harrigan@unistudios.com, andre@monmouth.com, awienert@tripod.com, aaron.hathaway@pobox.com, Jtgvt@aol.com, Artie@together.net, pcole@sseyod.demon.co.uk, texture444@aol.com, rubysu87@hotmail.com, rian97@aol.com, barsena2@caregroup.harvard.edu, paradyning@EARTHLINK.NET, glhundt@yahoo.com, andrea@rtyckmusic.com, Dan_Stahler@nps.gov, Jennifer.Martin@Schwab.COM, ChinaCat@bigfoot.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: shameless self-promotion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"AcmC2.0.lV5.sOKWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi guys. my humblest appolgies for the impersonal nature of this dispatch. i'll be in touch soon. this is just to let you know i'm getting an announcement list together for my fledgling label. if you want to receive (infrequent) e-mail updates on releases and gigs by me (solo) or with the bands Regional Science Fair, and Murkie, just reply to this message. won't burn up too much more bandwidth... thanks! mark christensen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 00:03:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA29630; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:03:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:03:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38814F49.17D524E1@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:55:37 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: no subject, now Loopers! References: <001101bf5fbf$2e1fee20$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9DFB5139D67C4DB36C7E9598" Resent-Message-ID: <"GIPVX.0.DZ6.l_KWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------9DFB5139D67C4DB36C7E9598 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Brent, There are many options, start with reading our own resource, The Loopers Delight site. http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html Much info there... try the tools of the trade section http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/tools.html great starting point! Read the archives from this list at http://www.annihilist.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive Otherwise just keep reading the posts, you will learn many things about gear and much more. jd Brent wrote: > Hi, my name is brent. Here's the thing: I saw > someone use a jam man live and i thought it > rocked. i'm looking for a machine. although, i've > read some literature saying that they're are > better loopers out now than the jam man (besides > the fact that they have been discontinued -last i > heard). Anyway, i don't even know how to go about > buying one. i would prefer to buy it used so as to > cut the price down. can you please give me some > advice. -brent > Broman@niu.edu --------------9DFB5139D67C4DB36C7E9598 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Brent,
There are many options, start with reading our own resource, The Loopers Delight site. http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
Much info there... try the tools of the trade section http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/tools.html
great starting point! Read the archives from this list at http://www.annihilist.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive
Otherwise just keep reading the posts, you will learn many things about gear and much more.
jd

Brent wrote:

 Hi, my name is brent. Here's the thing: I saw someone use a jam man live and i thought it rocked. i'm looking for a machine. although, i've read some literature saying that they're are better loopers out now than the jam man (besides the fact that they have been discontinued -last i heard). Anyway, i don't even know how to go about buying one. i would prefer to buy it used so as to cut the price down. can you please give me some advice. -brent
Broman@niu.edu
--------------9DFB5139D67C4DB36C7E9598-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 01:12:17 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20888; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:12:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:12:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1264123322==_ma============" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101bf5fbf$2e1fee20$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 00:06:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: Resent-Message-ID: <"lbRBA1.0.uE4.eJKWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --============_-1264123322==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Hi, my name is brent. Here's the thing: I saw someone use a jam man live >and i thought it rocked. i'm looking for a machine. although, i've read >some literature saying that they're are better loopers out now than the >jam man (besides the fact that they have been discontinued -last i heard). >Anyway, i don't even know how to go about buying one. i would prefer to >buy it used so as to cut the price down. can you please give me some >advice. > > >-brent >Broman@niu.edu Brent, Sorry to carry the bad news, but jam man tend to go for more used then they ever did new. Happy hunting. Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net --============_-1264123322==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Hi, my name is brent. Here's the thing: I saw someone use a jam man live and i thought it rocked. i'm looking for a machine. although, i've read some literature saying that they're are better loopers out now than the jam man (besides the fact that they have been discontinued -last i heard). Anyway, i don't even know how to go about buying one. i would prefer to buy it used so as to cut the price down. can you please give me some advice. -brent <Broman@niu.edu Brent, Sorry to carry the bad news, but jam man tend to go for more used then they ever did new. Happy hunting. Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net --============_-1264123322==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 02:16:58 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23353; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:16:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:16:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:11:07 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001160711.BAA18387@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: shameless self-promotion Resent-Message-ID: <"qY_oh2.0.Ry4.YyMWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK! At 11:16 PM 15/01/00 -0500, you wrote: >hi guys. my humblest appolgies for the impersonal nature of this dispatch. > i'll be in touch soon. > >this is just to let you know i'm getting an announcement list together for >my fledgling label. if you want to receive (infrequent) e-mail updates on >releases and gigs by me (solo) or with the bands Regional Science Fair, and >Murkie, just reply to this message. > >won't burn up too much more bandwidth... > >thanks! > >mark christensen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 02:43:16 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA11014; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:43:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 02:43:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 23:31:55 -0800 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Can any one recommend a good volume/expression/wha pedal In-reply-to: <3880A390.772DDBE8@bellsouth.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"XXhFX2.0.uX1.BLNWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:42 AM -0800 1/15/00, Jeff Duke wrote: >I love the Morley optical pot. aspect, however on my Morley wah/vol I was >disappointed that the volume part is audio taper not linear taper, some >might find >this a good thing but I cannot do the same type swells that I could w/ my >older >Morley wah/vol non optical linear taper pot. True about the volume >decrease in the >older one though. > >The difference is that linear taper is a steady increase in volume over >the range >of the pedal while the audio taper stacks up incrementally. I am sorry I can't >explain the differences better. Anyone else? > you have that backwards. Audio (or log) taper gives a steady increase in volume throughout the range. This reasonably matches the way your ears respond to volume. (i.e., doubling the signal amplitude does *not* sound twice as loud to your ears. it takes an exponential amplitude increase to sound like a linear volume increase to you.) Linear pots tend to sound like all the volume change happens right in the beginning of the range, then you hardly hear any change through the rest of the range of the pot. They do not sound like a steady volume increase, which is why the other sort was invented. So volume pots are usually audio/log, expression pedal and such are usually linear. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 04:27:08 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30363; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:27:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:27:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRirqbon1CK08DtHZZGAzQWrfdJUAIVAIfXeR4O3E7vYSE8KrKkjNt/pjZK From: DanKoontz@webtv.net (Dan Koontz) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 01:21:34 -0800 (PST) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Home-made synth Message-ID: <5441-38818D9E-14385@storefull-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"F4FTI1.0.We6.YsOWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm interested in building a real simple non-keyboard "just oscillators & knobs"-type analog synth, like the kinds used by Pan Sonic and Silver Apples. I was wondering if anyone on the list could recommend any books, websites, etc. that are more geared for someone who doesn't have a degree in electronics. Thanks, - Dan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 06:10:51 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00344; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:10:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 06:10:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001501bf600f$f01754a0$3a9bb8d4@oemcomputer> From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (Luis Angulo) To: References: <200001130658.AAA26850@servidor.unam.mx> Subject: Re: A cool Link Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:49:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: <"nd9Do1.0.QO3.Q7QWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Que tal Andy, Aquí te va la dirección de la agencia que nos contrató durante el verano.Ellos tienen muchos eventos diversos de música de todo el planeta.Sí a ellos no les interesa tu dirección musical no dejes de preguntarles si te pueden referir con alguien mas. 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Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 08:10:52 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02490; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:10:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:10:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3881BDED.33BB2711@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 07:47:42 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Can any one recommend a good volume/expression/wha pedal References: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"l2SMW3.0.uL4.6wRWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim Flint wrote: > At 8:42 AM -0800 1/15/00, Jeff Duke wrote: > >I love the Morley optical pot. aspect, however on my Morley wah/vol I was > >disappointed that the volume part is audio taper not linear taper, some > >might find > >this a good thing but I cannot do the same type swells that I could w/ my > >older > >Morley wah/vol non optical linear taper pot. True about the volume > >decrease in the > >older one though. > > > >The difference is that linear taper is a steady increase in volume over > >the range > >of the pedal while the audio taper stacks up incrementally. I am sorry I can't > >explain the differences better. Anyone else? > > > > you have that backwards. > > Audio (or log) taper gives a steady increase in volume throughout the > range. This reasonably matches the way your ears respond to volume. (i.e., > doubling the signal amplitude does *not* sound twice as loud to your ears. > it takes an exponential amplitude increase to sound like a linear volume > increase to you.) > > Linear pots tend to sound like all the volume change happens right in the > beginning of the range, then you hardly hear any change through the rest of > the range of the pot. They do not sound like a steady volume increase, > which is why the other sort was invented. > > So volume pots are usually audio/log, expression pedal and such are usually > linear. > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Well I had to turn to my book Electronic Projects for Musicians by Craig Anderton but here is his definition ; "One other charactoristic of pots, taper, might cause confusion. The taper of a pot is another word for the rate at which the resistance changes. The most common is linear" "turning it halfway gives half the resistance" "a quarter gives a quarter," "two-thirds gives two-thirds,and so on." "A log taper pot, however increases resistance logarithmically" "This means that turning up the pot halfway covers only about 10% of the total resistance; two-thirds covers about 40%" "as you get past this point, each degree of rotation covers a progressively greater amount of resistance" I am paraphrasing but I believe that this is what my point was in my lame description. I prefer linear for my vol. pedal so I now use an Ernie Ball which is linear. jd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 10:27:18 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28307; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:27:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:27:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <33.61e945.25b33a72@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:14:58 EST Subject: Re: shameless self-promotion To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"x7Ghy3.0.PL5.M2UWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi I'm interested in shameless self-promotion! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 11:06:15 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17096; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:06:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:06:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005501bf603d$14668d80$030101c0@spkhome> From: "Steven Kraninger" To: References: <5441-38818D9E-14385@storefull-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Home-made synth Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:16:41 -0600 Organization: MSI Data Systems Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"jnj-02.0.1R3.OiUWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Some kits are available from www.paia.com Also check out www.synthzone.com/analogue.htm FYI, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Koontz To: Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 3:21 AM Subject: Home-made synth > I'm interested in building a real simple non-keyboard "just oscillators > & knobs"-type analog synth, like the kinds used by Pan Sonic and Silver > Apples. I was wondering if anyone on the list could recommend any books, > websites, etc. that are more geared for someone who doesn't have a > degree in electronics. > > Thanks, - Dan > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 11:14:44 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20863; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:14:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:14:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000116111053.007a6100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:10:53 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Home-made synth In-Reply-To: <5441-38818D9E-14385@storefull-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"KpWf-2.0.-W4.qrUWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You could check with Paia Who knows, you might end up with a theremin, too. "Music Synthesizers - A Manual of Design and Construction" by Delton T. Horn (TAB Books 1565, 1984) has some OK but somewhat dated info on building an old-fashioned modular synth. Nothing fancy, but it may be what you're looking for. There are also several related TAB titles listed on the back of that book; circuit guidebooks and such. A great synth resource may be found at Tim At 01:21 AM 1/16/00 -0800, you wrote: > I'm interested in building a real simple non-keyboard "just oscillators >& knobs"-type analog synth, like the kinds used by Pan Sonic and Silver >Apples. I was wondering if anyone on the list could recommend any books, >websites, etc. that are more geared for someone who doesn't have a >degree in electronics. > > Thanks, - Dan > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 11:25:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27128; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:25:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:25:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000116161843.69281.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.130.87] From: "David Potter" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com, mcarpenter@sccs@santacruz.k12.ca.us, mbiffle@svg.com, oskyjane@aol.com, rajeshwest@hotmail.com, ajibaro4@JPS.net, Global@cruzio.com, serenapotter@hotmail.com, pottertree@aol.com, zev@sasquatch.com Subject: AncientSong Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:18:43 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"iebHP.0.vl5.6-UWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sing me an ancient song for my spirit is alone and hears no voice it understands. Spin me a pattern that shows the shape of the universe that evidences the oneness of things. Let me see a circle dance,each footstep echoing,singing a dusty song. Let me glide high over the earth and see the oceans at its edge. Let me understand the moon and sky and how they are to one another in the great dance of the universe. Let me sing my own song for between and among all things there is a balance. Let me be what I am today and sing a song so sweet there will be much listening. Let many gazing eyes turn toward the oneness of things. Let the earth spin and the stars wheel in the great circle dance of life,living today,shaping tomorrow, each our own part. Listening for the voice, the singer of all songs, the Great Spirit that is All. Sing me an Ancient Song for my spirit is truly one. And for each voice...there is understanding. Om and Out ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 15:39:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02080; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:39:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:39:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000116202938.94256.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.210.146.204] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Microsynth Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:29:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"R4RG6.0.Ef6.OfYWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you are using a six string guitar get the Microsynth not the Bass microsynth; or perhaps I misread and you are in fact using a six string bass, either way I recommend this device without hesitation. The interface is wonderfully useful for "on the fly" manipulation and it can create an incredible range of unique sounds. For what it costs it is an unbelievable tool. It doesn't have the versitility of a Sherman Filter bank but it also doesn't have the price tag either. Used in conjunction with a multi-effects processor or other unique pedals it is deadly. I've been able to achieve a reasonable approximation of the Methany sound, mini-Moog, synth flute, various Wakeman-esque gurgles and an endless assortment of picantique funk noises. I apologize to dissenters, but if you can't have fun with this pedal something must be wrong (or perhaps you are just beginning to swing away from funky analogness, devastating the vintage market and leaving all these wonderful toys to me alone). Concrete sound examples: I've turned my Yamaha PSR: built in speaker, 70 unprogramable sound and rhythm, cheapo keyboard into a nasty sounding machine with the Microsynth's help. Really, I've gotten some seriously dangerous funk synth bass sounds which are fantastic on Drum and Bass tracks and in looping. In conjunction with a pitch shifter, you can get some convincing synth bender sounds and also overcome the MS's monophonic tracking. I've used my Boss SE-50's realtime to create a whole tone bend that sounds killing with the MS. I also use the SE-50 to do pseudo-smart harmonies. I created a minor 3rd harmony and used the Realtime control to toggle between Major and Minor 3rds. In conjunction with some delay and chorus I can create incredible "Blade Runner"-esque synth pads. Which getting to my point is but one of the endlessly uses of the Microsynth in a looping context. I have to say that before I bought it I thought of it as a novelty item that I would use for certain specific roles. I was mistaken, it has become a centerpiece to my rig. I use it for, the attack delay when playing slide for pedal steel volume swells, laying down pimp-nasty bass loops, processing cheesy keyboard drums, or playing soaring leads (while making the GE Smith Hot-Face) with the octave overtone. I guess I sound like an Electro-Harmonix plant, but this is really an incredibly musical pedal that induces creative responses. It has it's quirks and draw backs (monophonic, gating, wall-wart) but it's incredibly useful. Check Tonefrenzy.com for some audio samples. I do find their test suite a bit limited, so if you'd like to hear some other uses I'll send you some short snippets as compresses AIFF's. Best of Luck, Sean ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 16:43:35 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17879; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:43:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:43:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 13:32:46 -0800 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: OT linear and log pots In-reply-to: <3881BDED.33BB2711@bellsouth.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"eD5Qk1.0.Zi2._aZWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ok, boring off-topic technical discussion of the differences between amplitude and volume, what your ears hear as loudness, and the differences in log and linear pots follows: At 4:47 AM -0800 1/16/00, Jeff Duke wrote: >Kim Flint wrote: >> you have that backwards. >> >> Audio (or log) taper gives a steady increase in volume throughout the >> range. This reasonably matches the way your ears respond to volume. (i.e., >> doubling the signal amplitude does *not* sound twice as loud to your ears. >> it takes an exponential amplitude increase to sound like a linear volume >> increase to you.) >> >> Linear pots tend to sound like all the volume change happens right in the >> beginning of the range, then you hardly hear any change through the rest of >> the range of the pot. They do not sound like a steady volume increase, >> which is why the other sort was invented. >> >> So volume pots are usually audio/log, expression pedal and such are usually >> linear. >> >Well I had to turn to my book Electronic Projects for Musicians by Craig >Anderton >but here is his definition ; > >"One other charactoristic of pots, taper, might cause confusion. The taper >of a pot >is another word for the rate at which the resistance changes. The most >common is >linear" "turning it halfway gives half the resistance" "a quarter gives a >quarter," >"two-thirds gives two-thirds,and so on." yes, of course that is true. That is what I am trying to tell you. This gives you a linear amplitude response on the audio signal. Your ears *do not* hear a linear amplitude increase as a linear volume increase! In fact they respond to power, and that power is spread over exponentially increasing volumes of air as you move away from the source. So it requires exponential amplitude increases for your ears to hear a "linear" volume increase. So when you use a linear pot, you will *not* hear a steady volume increase as you go through the range of the pot because the pot is only linear for amplitude and not power. And certainly not linear for the power per square meter that we hear! What you will hear with the linear pot is all the volume change happens at the beginning range of the pot, and you will hardly hear any change at all over the remaining 3/4 of the range of the pot. This is why volume measurements are made with dB units. (maybe this will help you understand, by relating it to a dB meter.) dB is a logarithmic scale. If you double the amplitude, you get only a 3dB increase in volume (or a 6dB increase in amplitude, to be anal, but we use power for volume so it is divided in half for a dB volume scale). 3dB volume change is not much, and certainly not twice as loud. calculating dB is easy with a calculator with a log function, dB volume = 10 * log (change in amplitude) So if you consider a 100K linear pot, you will be at 50K at the middle point. From there to the 100K point will double the amplitude of your signal, but only give you a 3dB change in volume. ( 10log(2) = 3dB ) You will hardly hear this and consider that whole 1/2 range of the pot as useless. 10dB change in volume is usually considered twice as loud. This is a 20dB change in amplitude, which is a 10x change in amplitude. >"A log taper pot, however increases resistance logarithmically" "This >means that >turning up the pot halfway covers only about 10% of the total resistance; >two-thirds covers about 40%" "as you get past this point, each degree of >rotation >covers a progressively greater amount of resistance" exactly, this is frequently called an "audio" pot. This does more closely match the way your ears hear volume, since this sort of exponential amplitude response results in a reasonably linear "power per square meter" response. So your ears hear this as a steady increase in volume (linear) through all of the pot range. In any audio product, any knob marked as volume will use a log (or audio) taper pot. >I am paraphrasing but I believe that this is what my point was in my lame >description. I prefer linear for my vol. pedal so I now use an Ernie Ball >which is >linear. If that was sold as a volume pedal, it almost certainly came with a log pot inside. Get an ohm meter and check it, you'll see! That log pot is what gives you the linear volume change you like. hope this helps, kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 17:06:53 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02636; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:06:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:06:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000116170147.008d26d0@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:01:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: shameless self-promotion In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000115231625.007b2b00@panther.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"xpm7t1.0.KO7.vyZWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i love it.. but you should HIDE everyone's addresss... so we don't get even MORE SPAM... good luck... havent forgot yer splattercell tape... ac At 11:16 PM 01/15/2000 -0500, you wrote: >hi guys. my humblest appolgies for the impersonal nature of this dispatch. > i'll be in touch soon. > >this is just to let you know i'm getting an announcement list together for >my fledgling label. if you want to receive (infrequent) e-mail updates on >releases and gigs by me (solo) or with the bands Regional Science Fair, and >Murkie, just reply to this message. > >won't burn up too much more bandwidth... > >thanks! > >mark christensen > > > *NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo http://www.ufomusic.com my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Jan 16 19:34:04 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28335; Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:34:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:34:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3882607E.8B085ADE@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:21:18 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT linear and log pots References: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qB5kr.0.aL5.56cWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well , that what the Morley people say, I guess it's just my foot....I am a volume pedal pumper and I guess its what your used to. I am checking on the Ernie Ball but side by side the two sure act different. nuff said, thanks, you did give me food for thought as usual, jd Kim Flint wrote: > If that was sold as a volume pedal, it almost certainly came with a log pot > inside. Get an ohm meter and check it, you'll see! That log pot is what > gives you the linear volume change you like. > > hope this helps, > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 00:22:53 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04165; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:22:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:22:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:15:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001170515.XAA10492@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Home-made synth Resent-Message-ID: <"YyODH1.0.Uw7.DNgWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com check out www.synthtech.com as well! smaug At 10:16 AM 16/01/00 -0600, you wrote: >Some kits are available from www.paia.com >Also check out www.synthzone.com/analogue.htm > >FYI, Steve > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dan Koontz >To: >Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 3:21 AM >Subject: Home-made synth > > >> I'm interested in building a real simple non-keyboard "just oscillators >> & knobs"-type analog synth, like the kinds used by Pan Sonic and Silver >> Apples. I was wondering if anyone on the list could recommend any books, >> websites, etc. that are more geared for someone who doesn't have a >> degree in electronics. >> >> Thanks, - Dan >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 00:22:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04216; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:22:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:22:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 23:17:05 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001170517.XAA10633@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Home-made synth Resent-Message-ID: <"S9Yct3.0.L8.jNgWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim, any clues on where to find this interesting book??? I mean, besides amazon? do you have it? maybe I can upgrade some of the ideas... smaug At 11:10 AM 16/01/00 -0500, you wrote: >You could check with Paia Who knows, you might end up >with a theremin, too. > >"Music Synthesizers - A Manual of Design and Construction" by Delton T. >Horn (TAB Books 1565, 1984) has some OK but somewhat dated info on building >an old-fashioned modular synth. Nothing fancy, but it may be what you're >looking for. There are also several related TAB titles listed on the back >of that book; circuit guidebooks and such. > >A great synth resource may be found at > >Tim > >At 01:21 AM 1/16/00 -0800, you wrote: >> I'm interested in building a real simple non-keyboard "just oscillators >>& knobs"-type analog synth, like the kinds used by Pan Sonic and Silver >>Apples. I was wondering if anyone on the list could recommend any books, >>websites, etc. that are more geared for someone who doesn't have a >>degree in electronics. >> >> Thanks, - Dan >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 00:35:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA11514; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:35:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:35:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3882A8ED.82B9F0B2@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:33:16 -0800 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: AncientSong (no looping content save your own) References: <20000116161843.69281.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sFxAv3.0.1v1.iYgWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Potter wrote: > Sing me an ancient song for my spirit is alone and hears no voice it > understands. > Spin me a pattern that shows the shape of the universe that evidences the > oneness of things. > Let me see a circle dance,each footstep echoing,singing a dusty song. > Let me glide high over the earth and see the oceans at its edge. > Let me understand the moon and sky and how they are to one another in the > great dance of the universe. > Let me sing my own song for between and among all things there is a balance. > Let me be what I am today and sing a song so sweet there will be much > listening. > Let many gazing eyes turn toward the oneness of things. > Let the earth spin and the stars wheel in the great circle dance of > life,living today,shaping tomorrow, each our own part. Listening for the > voice, the singer of all songs, the Great Spirit that is All. > Sing me an Ancient Song for my spirit is truly one. > And for each voice...there is understanding. whoa dude: this makes me feel like ah-cid in the early '70's, not chimay ale a la 2000! (apologia for the sotten blurb...) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 02:25:37 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16923; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:25:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:25:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <71.45b77e.25b41c50@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:18:40 EST Subject: Re: Home-made synth-for real!!! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"8Ui1U1.0.AE3.u9iWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dan, A few years ago, as an exercise, I sent several of my students to Radio Shack to get "electronics labs"--@ around $50. Then based on what they learned with the 'labs" they were to create their own sound generating devices. They all did well, but a few came up with some amazing and occassionally simple designs. Some of them joined up in teams, a few worked completely alone. In my opinion, the best sounding one was fitted to an enclosure not much larger than a CDROM drive and it was completely covered with knobs! Any JP8000 (like mine) would've shit blue bricks with diamonds had it heard this baby!! A girl, an art major built it. Try it yourself, you might enjoy it. ;-) hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 03:43:11 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30222; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:43:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:43:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000117083735.2012.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [129.130.229.169] From: "Zach Lawrence" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Home-made synth-for real!!! Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:37:35 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"7b9aF2.0.-l6.qJjWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would *love* to get this design, if you please:) zach:) >Dan, > A few years ago, as an exercise, I sent several of my students to >Radio >Shack to get "electronics labs"--@ around $50. Then based on what they >learned with the 'labs" they were to create their own sound generating >devices. They all did well, but a few came up with some amazing and >occassionally simple designs. Some of them joined up in teams, a few >worked >completely alone. In my opinion, the best sounding one was fitted to an >enclosure not much larger than a CDROM drive and it was completely covered >with knobs! Any JP8000 (like mine) would've shit blue bricks with >diamonds >had it heard this baby!! A girl, an art major built it. Try it yourself, >you might enjoy it. ;-) > hawkeye > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 09:06:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20880; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:06:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:06:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000117085830.007a5450@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:58:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Home-made synth In-Reply-To: <200001170517.XAA10633@servidor.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"f-4_v.0.tI4.a_nWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Right after I posted, I checked with the publisher, and it's not listed in their current catalog. Actually, none of the electronic music titles TAB used to publish appear to be in print, so I guess libraries and used book stores would be your best bet. Tim At 11:17 PM 1/16/00 -0600, you wrote: > Tim, any clues on where to find this interesting book??? I mean, besides >amazon? do you have it? maybe I can upgrade some of the ideas... > >smaug >At 11:10 AM 16/01/00 -0500, you wrote: >>"Music Synthesizers - A Manual of Design and Construction" by Delton T. >>Horn (TAB Books 1565, 1984) has some OK but somewhat dated info on building >>an old-fashioned modular synth. Nothing fancy, but it may be what you're >>looking for. There are also several related TAB titles listed on the back >>of that book; circuit guidebooks and such. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 10:29:43 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23434; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:29:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:29:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: microsynth & Space Station & KAOS Pad Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:06:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"GY3D42.0.Xs3.c9pWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you're looking for really odd and unique sounds to come out of your intrument, I'll just add the Space Station from Digitech is a device worth checking out. Also the KAOS Pad from Korg. Musician's Friend used to show the Space Station in its catalog. Not there in the recent one, so maybe they'll be a dying product. Check one out before they're gone. The KAOS Pad is a truely unique device in my experience. Also worth looking into. I've heard they wil be discontinued. I'm not that's true though. But I may buy a second just to have one on hand (no pun intended!). Both devices are for the same or less money than the microsynth, and are FAR more warped and out of control. David Kirkdorffer UNDO From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 10:56:34 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03867; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:56:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:56:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004301bf6101$c2060820$f80d1a3f@newmicronpc> From: "James Ko" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20000117085830.007a5450@pop.ici.net> Subject: DL4 question Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:44:35 -0500 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"SouSk.0.dG6.iPpWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have recently got my Line 6 DL4 and really like it. I know that you can reassign the three switches to one's own personal patches but is there a way to redo the factory settings for each delay type? This is the setting that is automatically selected when you turn the left knob to a desired model. I can't seem to find an explaination in the manual. Thanks again. Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 10:59:53 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04958; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:59:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:59:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000117155258.41003.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.137.183] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: microsynth & Space Station & KAOS Pad Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 07:52:58 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"zngy22.0.hL.yhpWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use the Kaos pad with my foot tweekin the sounds of the electribe and ER1. Far Out Dude.......>>>>>>>>Om and Out...Papa Dave >From: David Kirkdorffer >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: RE: microsynth & Space Station & KAOS Pad >Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:06:04 -0500 > >If you're looking for really odd and unique sounds to come out of your >intrument, I'll just add the Space Station from Digitech is a device worth >checking out. Also the KAOS Pad from Korg. > >Musician's Friend used to show the Space Station in its catalog. Not there >in the recent one, so maybe they'll be a dying product. Check one out >before >they're gone. > >The KAOS Pad is a truely unique device in my experience. Also worth >looking >into. I've heard they wil be discontinued. I'm not that's true though. >But I may buy a second just to have one on hand (no pun intended!). > >Both devices are for the same or less money than the microsynth, and are >FAR >more warped and out of control. > >David Kirkdorffer >UNDO > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 13:08:48 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06176; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:08:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:08:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:55:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001171755.LAA13189@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Home-made synth-for real!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id MAA31781 Resent-Message-ID: <"18EeT1.0.pm7.TVrWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We all would like, I´d say! At 12:37 AM 17/01/00 PST, you wrote: > > >i would *love* to get this design, if you please:) > >zach:) > >>Dan, >> A few years ago, as an exercise, I sent several of my students to >>Radio >>Shack to get "electronics labs"--@ around $50. Then based on what they >>learned with the 'labs" they were to create their own sound generating >>devices. They all did well, but a few came up with some amazing and >>occassionally simple designs. Some of them joined up in teams, a few >>worked >>completely alone. In my opinion, the best sounding one was fitted to an >>enclosure not much larger than a CDROM drive and it was completely covered >>with knobs! Any JP8000 (like mine) would've shit blue bricks with >>diamonds >>had it heard this baby!! A girl, an art major built it. Try it yourself, >>you might enjoy it. ;-) >> hawkeye >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 12:49:49 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27964; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:49:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:49:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <388347F1.32D80326@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:48:49 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: bit reduction & decimation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Db4WE.0.mZ5.zFrWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello looper's can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that does digital decimation and/or bit reduction? i like "crunching" beats this way ... thanks in advance, rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -the man cable- http://themancable.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 13:22:40 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14278; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:22:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:22:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000117101025.0085daf0@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:10:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: AncientSong In-Reply-To: <20000116161843.69281.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Uyjb52.0.My1.1krWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Pagan Loop Poetry??? At 08:18 AM 1/16/00 PST, you wrote: > > >Sing me an ancient song for my spirit is alone and hears no voice it >understands. >Spin me a pattern that shows the shape of the universe that evidences the >oneness of things. >Let me see a circle dance,each footstep echoing,singing a dusty song. >Let me glide high over the earth and see the oceans at its edge. >Let me understand the moon and sky and how they are to one another in the >great dance of the universe. >Let me sing my own song for between and among all things there is a balance. >Let me be what I am today and sing a song so sweet there will be much >listening. >Let many gazing eyes turn toward the oneness of things. >Let the earth spin and the stars wheel in the great circle dance of >life,living today,shaping tomorrow, each our own part. Listening for the >voice, the singer of all songs, the Great Spirit that is All. >Sing me an Ancient Song for my spirit is truly one. >And for each voice...there is understanding. > > Om and Out >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 13:26:42 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16118; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:26:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:26:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000117101740.0085fe60@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:17:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: DL4 question In-Reply-To: <004301bf6101$c2060820$f80d1a3f@newmicronpc> References: <3.0.5.32.20000117085830.007a5450@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"P8fUL3.0.1-2.pqrWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you look in the manual, it will tell you how to reset the factory presets (it's in the same place where it describes how to change the 'true bypass' function). But, technically, there are no 'presets' for each delay type. The three preset buttons are three presets chosen from the entire selection, there aren't three for each delay type. rich At 10:44 AM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >I have recently got my Line 6 DL4 and really like it. I know that you can >reassign the three switches to one's own personal patches but is there a way >to redo the factory settings for each delay type? This is the setting that >is automatically selected when you turn the left knob to a desired model. I >can't seem to find an explaination in the manual. > >Thanks again. > >Jim > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 13:32:50 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19296; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:32:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:32:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000117101951.008623e0@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:19:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: bit reduction & decimation In-Reply-To: <388347F1.32D80326@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"mOWi01.0.ZF3.qsrWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i doubt if this is exactly what you are looking for, but the Line6 DL-4 has a lo-res delay in which you can adjust the delay's resolution from 24 bit down to 8 bit (or 6, i can't remember). rich At 05:48 PM 1/17/00 +0100, you wrote: >hello looper's > >can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that >does digital decimation and/or bit reduction? > >i like "crunching" beats this way ... > >thanks in advance, >rob > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -the man cable- >http://themancable.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 13:13:30 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08360; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:13:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:13:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <3c.a6d45f.25b4b3d3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:05:07 EST Subject: Re: RE: microsynth & Space Station & KAOS Pad To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"dJTy73.0.B91.ydrWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I recently bought the Korg Kaoss Pad for my setup and all I have to say is wow! I use synths a lot and take advantage of the midi control this thing allows. It goes for about $279.00 and is worth it. So far I haven't had any problems or glitches with it. I can see many uses for the effects that are built in for loopers. Also it has a sampling feature that holds 5 seconds of sound at 48KHz. One prob. I have with it is that the programmed effects can't be altered. This is nothing though once you get your hands on it. Run a skipping CD through it toss on some delay from the effects inside and use your favorite sound processing filters afterwards and some interesting sonic wavescapes emerge. I brought this thing to work one day with a scratched CD and a portable CD player to show the guys. One guy couldn't put it down! He has never been interested in music he said but had to go out and buy one! This is a very addictive controller. Even if you never buy one you should at least go ahead and play with it. Sounding off, Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 13:34:44 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21139; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:34:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:34:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:22:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001171822.MAA20452@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: another analog synth Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id NAA15074 Resent-Message-ID: <"kpIux.0.0i3.CvrWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I own A very cool old Roland Rack synth called the SPV 355, it has filters, VCO´s and all kinds of controls and sliders, and I use it WITH the Microsynth. Make an analog sequencing loop with the electro harmonix, make analog sweeps and madness with the roland, I don´t need a Keyboard player!!! If you can find one (both the electro and the Roland) make sure to get them!!! the SPV 355 comes with external effects input, the regular CV/GATE stuff, sorry no MIDI,but hey, now we have Kenton electronics and the PHAT BOY don´t we??? smaug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 14:27:00 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14750; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:27:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:27:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001171911.NAA11319@nic.kanren.net> From: "Bret J. Boyer" Organization: Central Christian College of Kansas To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:11:15 -0600 CST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: foot pedals Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Resent-Message-ID: <"YAS2r.0.Cn1.absWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Are there any other pedals that work with the oberheim echoplex? I'm wanting less buttons--more like the jam man foot pedal. Bret From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 15:12:29 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31639; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:12:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:12:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000117145649.007a6bf0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:56:49 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: bit reduction & decimation In-Reply-To: <388347F1.32D80326@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9f3uM2.0.hB6.ZFtWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Could you do what you're looking to do with an older, low-sampling-rate sampler, or are you talking real-time? Maybe one of those phrase samplers like the Backtrak that're marketed as study and transcription aids? At 05:48 PM 1/17/00 +0100, you wrote: >can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that >does digital decimation and/or bit reduction? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 15:37:02 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09208; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:37:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:37:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:05:37 -0800 From: lyndonl@pacbell.net Subject: loopers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-to: lyndonl@pacbell.net Message-id: <38837611.B5E87EE1@postoffice.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-PBI-NC404 (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Resent-Message-ID: <"JvfiN2.0.2c7.sRtWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I'm an accomplished Boomerang user who's looking for something with higher fidelity. What's available? And, does anyone out there have an Oberheim Echoplex for sale? Thanks, Lyn From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 15:38:20 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09405; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:38:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:38:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:13:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <200001172013.OAA17093@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: another analog synth Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id PAA00565 Resent-Message-ID: <"zTgGH1.0.M9.3WtWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I own A very cool old Roland Rack synth called the SPV 355, it has filters, VCO´s and all kinds of controls and sliders, and I use it WITH the Microsynth. Make an analog sequencing loop with the electro harmonix, make analog sweeps and madness with the roland, I don´t need a Keyboard player!!! If you can find one (both the electro and the Roland) make sure to get them!!! the SPV 355 comes with external effects input, the regular CV/GATE stuff, sorry no MIDI,but hey, now we have Kenton electronics and the PHAT BOY don´t we??? smaug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 15:43:53 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11749; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:43:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:43:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008201bf612a$4a1564e0$077679a5@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: Subject: Re: foot pedals Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:34:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"oq9MM.0.N-1.MntWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The LD site has the specs of each switch-you could easily make a compact pedal with only the switches you want- http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Bret J. Boyer To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, January 17, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: foot pedals Are there any other pedals that work with the oberheim echoplex? I'm wanting less buttons--more like the jam man foot pedal. Bret From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 16:42:57 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05172; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:42:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:42:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <89.a6125b.25b4e1f4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:21:56 EST Subject: Re: OT linear and log pots To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 32 Resent-Message-ID: <"BlaDn3.0.Xy6.UWuWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 16/01/00 21:43:33 GMT Standard Time, kflint@annihilist.com writes: > If that was sold as a volume pedal, it almost certainly came with a log pot > inside. Get an ohm meter and check it, you'll see! That log pot is what > gives you the linear volume change you like. > > hope this helps, > > kim I've found reality to actually be a bit different. (although Kim's detailed analysis is excellent imho) The impedance of the devices which are connected to the pot also effect the response . If this impedance isn't relatively large compared to that of the pot then a lin pot will give something tending somewhat towards a log response, and a log pot will respond so that 'not much happens till you get to 9'. By using a pot of the right impedance you can get the response you want. (But I don't think you'll be able to get the special pots they use in footpedals nowadays , which have a reduced turning angle) So sometimes a lin pot would work better in a swell pedal.( There seems to be evidence that the Boss FV-50L is linear). Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 17:19:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21716; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:19:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:19:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <200001172150.NAA11824@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:54:23 -0800 Subject: Re: foot pedals From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hZhJg.0.jA2.NwuWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use (2) Boss FS-5U momentaries-one for record,the other for overdub and just fingertap on the front of the unit for the other functions- the two Boss pedals interconnect for a concise operation,cheap too!...STANNER ---------- >From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" >To: >Subject: Re: foot pedals >Date: Mon, Jan 17, 2000, 12:34 PM > > The LD site has the specs of each switch-you could easily make a compact > pedal with only the switches you want- > > http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echopedals.html > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bret J. Boyer > To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > Date: Monday, January 17, 2000 12:09 PM > Subject: foot pedals > > > Are there any other pedals that work with the oberheim echoplex? > I'm wanting less buttons--more like the jam man foot pedal. > Bret > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 18:30:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17185; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:30:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:30:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jo@numerica.it Message-ID: <007401bf6140$80688d40$602726d4@h2v6p1> To: References: <24.1b5903.25b1d55d@aol.com> <3882607E.8B085ADE@bellsouth.net> Subject: R: OT linear and log pots - morley vs. ernie-ball Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:13:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"O5iV61.0.wO2._5wWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i think ernie ball is the best one. I tried roland and morley also (the volume/wah model), that really disappointed me. It gave me the sensation to have all pedal's sensibility in just 1/5 of the complete movement. I found it very difficult to feel. Ernie ball, passive and very transparent is much more natural on the feeling, very close to the best volume pot on the guitar. It didn't ask me to lose any frequencies or dynamic in the path. I think it worths a try. Luca ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Duke To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:21 AM Subject: Re: OT linear and log pots > Well , that what the Morley people say, I guess it's just my foot....I am a volume > pedal pumper and I guess its what your used to. I am checking on the Ernie Ball > but side by side the two sure act different. > nuff said, > thanks, you did give me food for thought as usual, > jd > > Kim Flint wrote: > > > If that was sold as a volume pedal, it almost certainly came with a log pot > > inside. Get an ohm meter and check it, you'll see! That log pot is what > > gives you the linear volume change you like. > > > > hope this helps, > > > > kim > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > > http://www.annihilist.com/ | > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 18:39:12 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20834; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:39:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:39:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004101bf6142$62145a20$2d0d1a3f@newmicronpc> From: "James Ko" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20000117085830.007a5450@pop.ici.net> <3.0.6.32.20000117101740.0085fe60@pop3.argotech.net> Subject: Re: DL4 question Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:27:10 -0500 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"LgxIs3.0.hy2.cBwWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Rich and all I'm afraid I phrased my question incorrectly. I don't want to reinstate the factory settings but rather change them for each model. The manual says that when you choose a model via the "model selector" knob, Line 6 has preset that model with a particular setting. This can be temporaraly adjusted by turning the various knobs but if you select another model then reselect your first one, the settings go back to the factory preset. These are the settings I want to change without having to assign them to the three footswitches. I guess I will try to email Line 6. Thanks a bunch. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:17 PM Subject: Re: DL4 question > If you look in the manual, it will tell you how to reset the factory > presets (it's in the same place where it describes how to change the 'true > bypass' function). But, technically, there are no 'presets' for each delay > type. The three preset buttons are three presets chosen from the entire > selection, there aren't three for each delay type. > > rich > > At 10:44 AM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: > >I have recently got my Line 6 DL4 and really like it. I know that you can > >reassign the three switches to one's own personal patches but is there a way > >to redo the factory settings for each delay type? This is the setting that > >is automatically selected when you turn the left knob to a desired model. I > >can't seem to find an explaination in the manual. > > > >Thanks again. > > > >Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 18:45:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23149; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:45:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:45:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:21:26 EST Subject: Re: microsynth & Space Station & KAOS Pad To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"2sXCz.0.rV3.bGwWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i tried the space station and wasn't very impressed. didn't end up asking santa for it for xmas. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 20:01:33 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA24493; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:01:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:01:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5441-38818D9E-14385@storefull-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:54:38 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: MP3 Resent-Message-ID: <"W6D2A2.0.Sr4.PaxWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks again to list members' response on making AIFFs into RealAudio. RealProducer is quite easy to use. Now I'd like to try out making MP3s to compare the quality; RealAudio files are nice and compact, but I do get a few weird artifacts. Can someone point me to a free application that will do a quick and easy MP3 conversion of Mac AIFF files? TIA.... David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 20:44:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18103; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:44:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:44:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: "synthlist" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:32:24 -0800 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: casio synths X-Sender-Ip: 4.54.50.117 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"esx8f2.0.Cq2.NByWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear list: what was the last casio synth made for pros, as opposed to shopping malls? What is the going rate on a used casio . I sold my cz101 l;ast year for 200? now i want a more recent model . -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 20:58:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26282; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:58:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:58:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000117205054.009587a0@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:53:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: MP3 In-Reply-To: References: <5441-38818D9E-14385@storefull-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"Vmgk91.0.nK5.5SyWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:54 PM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks again to list members' response on making AIFFs into RealAudio. >RealProducer is quite easy to use. Now I'd like to try out making MP3s to >compare the quality; RealAudio files are nice and compact, but I do get a >few weird artifacts. Can someone point me to a free application that will >do a quick and easy MP3 conversion of Mac AIFF files? TIA.... > I think you're gonna have to pay for this. But not too much. I recently compared two MP3 encoders for Macintosh: N2MP3 available at http://www.n2mp3.com/ and SoundJamMP from http://www.soundjam.com/ Both are available for demo. ************************ Floyd Miller ***************** floyd@studiodust.com ************ http://www.studiodust.com ******** http://www.studiodust.com/~floyd ***** palace://studiodust.com:9998 ** TPV: http://www.thepalace.com:8000/perl/palentry.pl?ID=WD9S7VM2 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 21:59:11 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA25990; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:59:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000117184952.0085eaf0@pop3.argotech.net> X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:49:52 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rich Subject: Re: DL4 question In-Reply-To: <004101bf6142$62145a20$2d0d1a3f@newmicronpc> References: <3.0.5.32.20000117085830.007a5450@pop.ici.net> <3.0.6.32.20000117101740.0085fe60@pop3.argotech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"toUas1.0.QW5.zKzWu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ahh...now i get what your trying to do. Like if you set a sound you like in Tube Echo for example. Any time you turn the selector knob back to Tube Echo, it will be the sound you made? Is that it? I wouldn't know how to do that, even if it can be done. Let us know what comes up from Line 6. I am going to the NAMM show in LA, and Line6 had a pretty cool booth last year. I will see if I might be able to chase someone on that if you don't get anything before then... later, rich At 06:27 PM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Rich and all > >I'm afraid I phrased my question incorrectly. > >I don't want to reinstate the factory settings but rather change them for >each model. The manual says that when you choose a model via the "model >selector" knob, Line 6 has preset that model with a particular setting. >This can be temporaraly adjusted by turning the various knobs but if you >select another model then reselect your first one, the settings go back to >the factory preset. These are the settings I want to change without having >to assign them to the three footswitches. > >I guess I will try to email Line 6. > >Thanks a bunch. > >Jim > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Rich >To: >Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:17 PM >Subject: Re: DL4 question > > >> If you look in the manual, it will tell you how to reset the factory >> presets (it's in the same place where it describes how to change the 'true >> bypass' function). But, technically, there are no 'presets' for each >delay >> type. The three preset buttons are three presets chosen from the entire >> selection, there aren't three for each delay type. >> >> rich >> >> At 10:44 AM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >> >I have recently got my Line 6 DL4 and really like it. I know that you >can >> >reassign the three switches to one's own personal patches but is there a >way >> >to redo the factory settings for each delay type? This is the setting >that >> >is automatically selected when you turn the left knob to a desired model. >I >> >can't seem to find an explaination in the manual. >> > >> >Thanks again. >> > >> >Jim >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 23:00:18 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26989; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:00:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:00:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006901bf6168$ffb97320$910c1a3f@newmicronpc> From: "James Ko" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20000117085830.007a5450@pop.ici.net><3.0.6.32.20000117101740.0085fe60@pop3.argotech.net> <3.0.6.32.20000117184952.0085eaf0@pop3.argotech.net> Subject: Re: DL4 question Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:03:35 -0500 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"QbIDA1.0.ah5.dE-Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Ahh...now i get what your trying to do. Like if you set a sound you like > in Tube Echo for example. Any time you turn the selector knob back to Tube > Echo, it will be the sound you made? Is that it? Exact-a-mundo, Rich. I'll relay whatever info Line 6 conveys to me. > am going to the NAMM show in LA, and Line6 had a pretty cool booth last > year. I will see if I might be able to chase someone on that if you don't > get anything before then... that would be very cool. Thanks again! Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 23:05:24 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29738; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:05:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00e201bf6164$d0dc8500$4f6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: : DL4 purchase Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:33:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"w54E.0.4J4.I6-Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey, were's that store that had the dl4 for $200. i got the money now but i lost the site. postaldave@qx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Jan 17 23:43:39 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA18581; Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:43:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:43:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <20000118043536.40627.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.162.195.8] From: "Greg S" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: >>>> Line6 DL4 Group Buy Final Details <<<< Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:35:35 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"bkTng2.0.rZ3.us-Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Per Postal Dave's request..... Still lovin mine... Greg S >From: "G716" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >CC: "ALTO MUSIC" >Subject: >>>> Line6 DL4 Group Buy Final Details <<<< >Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 14:20:41 -0800 > >Everyone: the work has paid off. Jon at Alto Music has come through >again. They have DL4's in stock and can ship right away. > >Line6 DL4: $200 >Line6 Adapter: $18 >(note - this is not a wall wart, but rather a "pregnant" extension cord. >i.e. it'll only take up one space on your power strip) > >How to order: >Go to http://www.altomusic.com >On the left side of the web page click "contact us". >Fill out the form and say you are from the "loopers list". >My browser did not indicate that the web page is using secure encryption, >so if you're concerned about putting in a credit card number, I've asked >Jon to provide a phone number that we can call. > >Thanks to Legion for all his efforts researching >options as well. > >Off to order my own shortly... >Greg > >p.s. If you get 2 copies of this it's because I BCC'd everyone who >specifically requested an update. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 00:08:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA32059; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:08:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:08:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3883F421.BB2E819@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:03:29 +1100 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: bit reduction & decimation References: <388347F1.32D80326@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VneWb.0.Y37.iG_Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cummings wrote: > > hello looper's > > can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that > does digital decimation and/or bit reduction? > > i like "crunching" beats this way ... > > thanks in advance, > rob > i think i've come across digital decimation when i accidently fried the chip in my old boss dd-2 delay ... i had a multi-voltage wall wart that was servicing many appliances ... one day i left it on 12 volts instead of 9 and fired up (literally it turns out) the dd2 ... anyway the pedal definitely didn't function as a delay any more ... at first it would digitally "fuzz" out the signal very nicely (whether it was "on" or "off") ... i kind of liked it :) ... then this fuzz got thinner and thinner over about a month or so ... eventually i tossed it and the wall wart ... so my advice is to fry the proccessor in the digital pedal of your choice -^..^- brad From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 00:34:37 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15151; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:34:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:34:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3883F96A.54FD58A@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:26:02 +1100 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: bit reduction & decimation (VF-1 ??) References: <388347F1.32D80326@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"UC-T61.0.lW2.nb_Wu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cummings wrote: > > can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that > does digital decimation and/or bit reduction? > > i like "crunching" beats this way ... > then i wrote: > > fry the proccessor in the digital pedal of your choice > a more realistic (and probably less expensive ?-maybe) solution might be contained in that new-fangled boss VF-1 ... it has a "slicer" effect in it ... VF-1 owners: how finely it can slice? taking out (say) 1ms slices every 3ms might make for something crunchy at least ... if it can do the same for carrots and celery i might get one for making salads .. brad From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 01:56:56 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04246; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:56:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:56:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701bf617e$befd2d20$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> From: "Brent" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:39:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF614C.7417F880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"NG0qT.0.3U5.pf0Xu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF614C.7417F880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok. Can someone explain to me what the "undo" feature is on loopers? And also, are there any loopers that have the ability to manually adjust = the tempo of a live loop? -brent Broman@niu.edu ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF614C.7417F880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok. Can someone explain to me what = the=20 "undo" feature is on loopers?
And also, are = there any=20 loopers that have the ability to manually adjust the tempo of a live=20 loop?
 
 
-brent
Broman@niu.edu
= ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BF614C.7417F880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 02:28:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29300; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:28:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 02:28:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <76.104d153.25b568c4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:57:08 EST Subject: Re: Home-made synth-for real!!! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ve2Ji1.0.BE1.hx0Xu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << i would *love* to get this design, if you please:) >> So would I! Now! We didn't share any design secrets. Just the results. Long gone with the student I'm afraid. But you should be able to make your own similar one. With a little time and effort. Start with a Radio Shack electronics lab. Build a couple simple oscillator circuits, stick a pot in the circuit to stir things up a bit and build on that. BTW: The course description went something like, "why should an art, biology, theater or english majors be interested in electronics?... a fun and exciting course for the non-major..." It really was a fun course to teach. And it became quite popular too. hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 04:59:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA31699; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:59:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:59:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <388434AD.2516ADBE@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:38:53 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MP3 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9N8Wc1.0.Ac4.pI3Xu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David, try here http://software.mp3.com/software/featured/macintosh/encoder/ jd David Myers wrote: > Thanks again to list members' response on making AIFFs into RealAudio. > RealProducer is quite easy to use. Now I'd like to try out making MP3s to > compare the quality; RealAudio files are nice and compact, but I do get a > few weird artifacts. Can someone point me to a free application that will > do a quick and easy MP3 conversion of Mac AIFF files? TIA.... > > David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 08:40:07 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08919; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:40:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:40:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:21:37 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com cc: webmaster@musicyo.com, docyo@musicyo.com Subject: MusicYo is there to SpamYo Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"LzmdM3.0.n7.tZ6Xu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just thought I'd share with you folks my displeasure with MusicYo - not as a customer, but as a recipient of their unsolicited SPAM. On my system here I run several mailing lists and aliases and in the last few weeks I've been hit on several of them (even the majordomo procsessing account for my mailing lists!) with their advertisements. Several of these addresses that have been hit could only have been obtained by building up bulk address lists from capturing email addresses from web sites and/or newsgroup postings - or purchasing ready made lists obtained in this way from SPAM mailing list providers. In two words, this sucks. Unfortunately they've taken the typical SPAM'mers attitude that you have to go to their web site and manually remove your email address from their list - email addresses that you never gave out to them in the first place. Since as I mentioned, they've now grabbed several addresses related to my system, I've had to go ahead and put a block against email from the musicyo.com domain coming into my system so that I don't keep getting bombarded with their SPAM on all these aliases. When people originally started talking about MusicYo on this list, I was actually considering buying a guitar from their site, but now they've forever turned away a potential customer with sleazy advertising practices. -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 09:12:26 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24428; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:12:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:12:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38846F43.C7584AF2@minds-eye.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:48:52 -0500 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MusicYo is there to SpamYo References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HjmTV.0.TF3.Hz6Xu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com That's odd, I've actually ordered from them and have only received one or two monthly update type things, nothing severe by any means (and to only the one address I used to purchase the gear). Maybe its just luck and I'll regret this defense later. Kevin Adam Levin wrote: > Just thought I'd share with you folks my displeasure with MusicYo - not as > a customer, but as a recipient of their unsolicited SPAM. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 09:19:51 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27464; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:19:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:19:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bf61d8$2a1c6f40$81bc173f@GTEtesh> From: "nitesh atel" To: References: <000701bf617e$befd2d20$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> Subject: Re: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:19:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF6195.1AB2A580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"fMPtG2.0.l_5.cK7Xu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF6195.1AB2A580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable roland sp202 is supposed to bhave pitch chyange with built sampler ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brent=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 10:39 PM Ok. Can someone explain to me what the "undo" feature is on loopers? And also, are there any loopers that have the ability to manually = adjust the tempo of a live loop? =20 -brent Broman@niu.edu ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF6195.1AB2A580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
roland sp202 is supposed to bhave pitch = chyange=20 with built sampler
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Ok. Can someone explain to me what = the "undo"=20 feature is on loopers?
And also, = are there any=20 loopers that have the ability to manually adjust the tempo of a live=20 loop?
 
 
-brent
Broman@niu.edu
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF6195.1AB2A580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 13:26:59 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01393; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:26:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:26:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3884ABA0.D2CBFE44@best.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:06:24 -0800 From: Allan Hoeltje X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: : DL4 purchase References: <00e201bf6164$d0dc8500$4f6fc8d0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lxYsn2.0.Hu5.jiAXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com postaldave wrote: > hey, were's that store that had the dl4 for $200. i got the money now but i > lost the site. > http://www.altomusic.com/ is the place. I finally got one of these last week from Alto Music. The dl4 and power supply comes to about $220. One concern, however, is the units Alto is selling appear to be to older version. A previous LD note stated: >To check the version, power it up while holding down the "Tap Tempo" >switch. The A LED will blink once, then the B LED will blink twice if you >have v. 1.2, 3X if you have 1.3. The one I got from Alto blinks twice. It is still a fantastic box though and my not even bother with the upgrade. My girl friend has gotten a lot of mileage out of me becoming "loopy". I got the last laugh Sunday night when we went to hear Christine Laven perform. For those of you unfamiliar with her music, its a combination of folk/woman/healing with a great sense of humor, songs like "Sensitive New Age Guy", cracked me up! Anyway, she makes very good use of sending her vocals through a Boomerang in her work. My girl friend was shocked, I just put on a big grin. :-) Allan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 13:43:55 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09379; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:43:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:43:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:02:51 -0600 Subject: Echoplex on ebay, $1035 and counting From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"KiYH6.0.131.V7BXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For those who have tired of waiting for new ones to go into production Any Day Now: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=238098829 TH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 14:29:13 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04206; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:29:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:29:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b001bf61e9$1a257580$382310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "James Ko" , Subject: Re: DL4 question Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:15:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Skf1m2.0.eG7.1oBXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm quoting from the manual here(page four, first paragraph, second sentence): "...when you find a sound you want to keep...press and hold one of the memory location stomp switches for three seconds, and the setting of all your knobs is committed to the stomp box's memory." If I'm reading that correctly, by doing this little 3-second stomp routine, you will preserve that setting whenever you call up that particular model, whether you assign that particular model to a stomp switch for retrieval or not. By the way, gang, I'm about to review the Line 6 DL4 and MM4 for Guitar World. Y'all probably know more about it via various newsgroup and web postings than I will before the review is due (this Friday). Wish me luck. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: James Ko To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, January 17, 2000 6:27 PM Subject: Re: DL4 question >Hi Rich and all > >I'm afraid I phrased my question incorrectly. > >I don't want to reinstate the factory settings but rather change them for >each model. The manual says that when you choose a model via the "model >selector" knob, Line 6 has preset that model with a particular setting. >This can be temporaraly adjusted by turning the various knobs but if you >select another model then reselect your first one, the settings go back to >the factory preset. These are the settings I want to change without having >to assign them to the three footswitches. > >I guess I will try to email Line 6. > >Thanks a bunch. > >Jim > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Rich >To: >Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:17 PM >Subject: Re: DL4 question > > >> If you look in the manual, it will tell you how to reset the factory >> presets (it's in the same place where it describes how to change the 'true >> bypass' function). But, technically, there are no 'presets' for each >delay >> type. The three preset buttons are three presets chosen from the entire >> selection, there aren't three for each delay type. >> >> rich >> >> At 10:44 AM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >> >I have recently got my Line 6 DL4 and really like it. I know that you >can >> >reassign the three switches to one's own personal patches but is there a >way >> >to redo the factory settings for each delay type? This is the setting >that >> >is automatically selected when you turn the left knob to a desired model. >I >> >can't seem to find an explaination in the manual. >> > >> >Thanks again. >> > >> >Jim >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 15:16:05 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02105; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:16:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:16:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echophazer@aol.com Message-ID: <2b.1038688.25b6202f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:59:43 EST Subject: Re: MP3 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: <"TnRpu2.0.QA6.FQCXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use the N2MP3 on my Mac it's a good program. I think it was 30 bucks or so. Not sure though + or - 5 bucks on the price maybe. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 16:18:10 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06829; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:18:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:18:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3884D136.5A0745E6@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:47:13 -0800 From: George Van Wagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DL4 question References: <00b001bf61e9$1a257580$382310ac@Douglas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"B7tAj1.0.QN5.H4DXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com DL-4 does not have the ability to save different sounds for each position on the rotary switch, and those cannot currently be changed. George "K. Douglas Baldwin" wrote: > > I'm quoting from the manual here(page four, first paragraph, second > sentence): > "...when you find a sound you want to keep...press and hold one of the > memory location stomp switches for three seconds, and the setting of all > your knobs is committed to the stomp box's memory." > If I'm reading that correctly, by doing this little 3-second stomp > routine, you will preserve that setting whenever you call up that particular > model, whether you assign that particular model to a stomp switch for > retrieval or not. > By the way, gang, I'm about to review the Line 6 DL4 and MM4 for Guitar > World. Y'all probably know more about it via various newsgroup and web > postings than I will before the review is due (this Friday). Wish me luck. > Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster > dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Ko > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Monday, January 17, 2000 6:27 PM > Subject: Re: DL4 question > > >Hi Rich and all > > > >I'm afraid I phrased my question incorrectly. > > > >I don't want to reinstate the factory settings but rather change them for > >each model. The manual says that when you choose a model via the "model > >selector" knob, Line 6 has preset that model with a particular setting. > >This can be temporaraly adjusted by turning the various knobs but if you > >select another model then reselect your first one, the settings go back to > >the factory preset. These are the settings I want to change without having > >to assign them to the three footswitches. > > > >I guess I will try to email Line 6. > > > >Thanks a bunch. > > > >Jim > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Rich > >To: > >Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 1:17 PM > >Subject: Re: DL4 question > > > > > >> If you look in the manual, it will tell you how to reset the factory > >> presets (it's in the same place where it describes how to change the > 'true > >> bypass' function). But, technically, there are no 'presets' for each > >delay > >> type. The three preset buttons are three presets chosen from the entire > >> selection, there aren't three for each delay type. > >> > >> rich > >> > >> At 10:44 AM 1/17/00 -0500, you wrote: > >> >I have recently got my Line 6 DL4 and really like it. I know that you > >can > >> >reassign the three switches to one's own personal patches but is there a > >way > >> >to redo the factory settings for each delay type? This is the setting > >that > >> >is automatically selected when you turn the left knob to a desired > model. > >I > >> >can't seem to find an explaination in the manual. > >> > > >> >Thanks again. > >> > > >> >Jim > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 16:39:10 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17275; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:39:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:39:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3884D15C.FD2F4061@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:47:24 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: bit reduction & decimation References: <3.0.5.32.20000117145649.007a6bf0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8afev2.0.gR3.hlDXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i was thinking real-time. i like sound of the decimation and bit reduction sliders in the grunge-effect in audiomulch. what is decimation anyway? l8ter, rob Tim Nelson schrieb: > > > Could you do what you're looking to do with an older, low-sampling-rate > sampler, or are you talking real-time? Maybe one of those phrase samplers > like the Backtrak that're marketed as study and transcription aids? > > At 05:48 PM 1/17/00 +0100, you wrote: > > >can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that > >does digital decimation and/or bit reduction? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 18:22:09 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04847; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:22:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:22:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5441-38818D9E-14385@storefull-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:43:52 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: Re: MP3 --> VBR Resent-Message-ID: <"-0V4E2.0.TC5.foEXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just purchased SoundJam electronically (for $40) and its really nice! So far, the only negative thing I've found is that the VBR (variable bit rate) encoder doesn't work as well as another one I have used (LAME for Linux OS). Soundjam tends to encode at about half of the bit rate for the same song [at MAX quality setting] as LAME. Otherwise it works well. SoundJam also does MP2 encoding, which is optimized forlarger bit rates (160 - 512 Kbps) . SoundJam allows for a maximum of 320 Kbps for MP3's and 384 Kbps for MP2's. I highly recommend the VBR, though (for MP# only). Its a good quality/memory optimization. Has anyone had experience with other VBR encoders? - chris From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 18:22:36 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05938; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:22:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:22:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jo@numerica.it Message-ID: <004b01bf6207$7b63e2a0$772726d4@h2v6p1> To: Subject: I: rocktron's rack interface experience? Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:55:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01BF620F.71BE6D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"PLZIv2.0.up6.8zEXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BF620F.71BE6D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jo@numerica.it=20 To: loopersdelight@annihilst.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:03 AM Subject: rocktron's rack interface experience? hi loopers, does anyone have experienced rack interface? can you give me a review; expecially on: noises, transparency and the = speaker emulator response. thanks, Luca. 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------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BF620F.71BE6D80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 19:08:57 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28467; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:08:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:08:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002001bf620d$9c2301a0$536fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: : DL4 purchase Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:41:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"1m2CU.0.to4.hoFXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what is the diff. in the second version? does it matter much? -----Original Message----- From: Allan Hoeltje To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: : DL4 purchase > >postaldave wrote: > >> hey, were's that store that had the dl4 for $200. i got the money now but i >> lost the site. >> > >http://www.altomusic.com/ is the place. > >I finally got one of these last week from Alto Music. The dl4 and power supply >comes to about $220. One concern, however, is the units Alto is selling appear >to be to older version. A previous LD note stated: > >>To check the version, power it up while holding down the "Tap Tempo" >>switch. The A LED will blink once, then the B LED will blink twice if you >>have v. 1.2, 3X if you have 1.3. > >The one I got from Alto blinks twice. It is still a fantastic box though and >my not even bother with the upgrade. > >My girl friend has gotten a lot of mileage out of me becoming "loopy". I got >the last laugh Sunday night when we went to hear Christine Laven perform. For >those of you unfamiliar with her music, its a combination of folk/woman/healing >with a great sense of humor, songs like "Sensitive New Age Guy", cracked me >up! Anyway, she makes very good use of sending her vocals through a Boomerang >in her work. My girl friend was shocked, I just put on a big grin. > >:-) >Allan > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 19:47:07 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18395; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:47:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:47:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003401bf6215$b0c50380$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> From: "Brent" To: Subject: Re: : DL4 purchase Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:39:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"1I9Yf2.0.PQ3.uUGXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i tried to access the site you gave and it said that i didn't have the password access or something. what's the deal? -brent Broman@niu.edu -----Original Message----- From: Allan Hoeltje To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: Re: : DL4 purchase > >postaldave wrote: > >> hey, were's that store that had the dl4 for $200. i got the money now but i >> lost the site. >> > >http://www.altomusic.com/ is the place. > >I finally got one of these last week from Alto Music. The dl4 and power supply >comes to about $220. One concern, however, is the units Alto is selling appear >to be to older version. A previous LD note stated: > >>To check the version, power it up while holding down the "Tap Tempo" >>switch. The A LED will blink once, then the B LED will blink twice if you >>have v. 1.2, 3X if you have 1.3. > >The one I got from Alto blinks twice. It is still a fantastic box though and >my not even bother with the upgrade. > >My girl friend has gotten a lot of mileage out of me becoming "loopy". I got >the last laugh Sunday night when we went to hear Christine Laven perform. For >those of you unfamiliar with her music, its a combination of folk/woman/healing >with a great sense of humor, songs like "Sensitive New Age Guy", cracked me >up! Anyway, she makes very good use of sending her vocals through a Boomerang >in her work. My girl friend was shocked, I just put on a big grin. > >:-) >Allan > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 19:52:32 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19964; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:52:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:52:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: rob@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <38850A77.3082179A@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:51:03 +0100 From: Robert van der Kamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: DL4 wet/dry mix: still not 100% wet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jW_3M2.0.lX4.rcGXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, A couple of weeks ago someone mentioned a problem with the DL4's wet/dry mix knob; it couldn't go al the way to 100% wet. Is this problem still present, even in the updated units? Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 19:51:21 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19215; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:51:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:51:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: rob@rosy.yourwebhost.com Message-ID: <388509E3.74355EF@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:48:35 +0100 From: Robert van der Kamp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: DL4 loop audio specs? Anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4pglr.0.pG4.gaGXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi list, Does anyone know the audio specs of the looper in the DL4? What's the frequency response of the delayed sound? And its 24-bit ad/da, right? Thanks, Robert From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 20:04:03 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23686; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:04:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:04:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: alex@cliff.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3884D15C.FD2F4061@compuserve.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20000117145649.007a6bf0@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:40:36 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: bit reduction & decimation Resent-Message-ID: <"UkAjj.0.lm3.UXGXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >what is decimation anyway? sample rate reduction; as a creative effect it is usually done without the lowpass filtering which "should" be applied to a downsampled output. It seems like nostalgia is catching up with us. Didn't it take a couple decades for tubes to regain popularity, only one for vinyl, and just a few years for 8-bit 8kHz digital to come back? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Jan 18 21:06:39 2000 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11184; Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:06:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:06:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001701bf6220$12af0a00$7c859c83@pavilion.cso.niu.edu> From: "Brent" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: saw this on e-bay and thought someone would be interested Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:54:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF61ED.C7B785E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"s-Fw52.0.pr1.VaHXu"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/11697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF61ED.C7B785E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 =20 =20 Lexicon MPX-G2 gtr effects processor NO RESRV=20 Item #238812685=20 =20 Miscellaneous:Musical Instruments:Guitars=20 =20 =20 Starts at $1,000.00 First bid $1,000.00=20 Quantity 1 # of bids 0 (bid history) (with emails)=20 Time left 7 days, 5 hours + Location Bloomingdale, = Il...30mi out of Chicago=20 Started 01/15/00, 23:06:20 PST (mail this auction to a = friend)=20 Ends 01/25/00, 23:06:20 PST (request a gift alert)=20 =20 Seller (Rating) seventhday (7)=20 (view comments in seller's Feedback Profile) (view = seller's other auctions) (ask seller a question)=20 =20 High bid --=20 =20 Payment Money Order/Cashiers Checks, See item description = for payment methods accepted=20 Shipping Buyer pays actual shipping charges, Seller ships to = home country only. See item description for details, See item = description for shipping charges=20 =20 Update item Seller: If this item has received no bids, you = may revise it.=20 =20 Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item. You should = contact the seller to resolve any questions before bidding. Currency is = U.S. dollar ($) unless otherwise noted.=20 =20 Description=20 =20 If this posting looks familiar it=92s because I tried to sell this = back in November and the winning bidder proved to be irresponsible and = flaked out. Let=92s try this one more time and hopefully we=92ll have = better luck=85You are bidding on a Lexicon MPX-G2 Guitar Effects = Processor. I purchased this unit in April and while I=92ve found that = this piece gives you a multitude of great tones along with incredible = control I=92ve decided to streamline/simplify my rig and perhaps go back = to a few well-chosen pedals. I won=92t bore you with the MPX-G2 specs as = you could simply check out the Lexicon website for yourself for thorough = details, but if you have any questions feel free to E-mail me. (I=92ll = be on vacation, but I=92ll try to check in on occasion. Forgive me if it = may take a few days to get back to you.) Chances are, if you=92re going = to spend this kind of money you=92ve already done your homework and are = aware of how incredible this rig is. For the entire nine months I=92ve = owned the Lexicon MPX-G2 it has resided in a SKB 3-space rack which = I=92ll include at no extra cost. You can buy a new MPX-G2 for $1350.00 = and that doesn=92t include the SKB rack. Of course, my opening bid is = much lower. I=92ll also include at no extra cost, the Lexicon MPX-R1 = Foot Controller which lists for about $500. As you can see from the = photos, both units are in excellent condition, work perfectly and come = with their respective operating manuals, power supplies and cables. = There=92s absolutely nothing wrong with any of these pieces. All sales = are final so please be certain that this is what you=92re looking for. = Head out to Guitar Center or Sam Ash to fire one of these up and hear = just how great it sounds! WINNING BIDDER PAYS SHIPPING AND AGREES TO = REMIT PAYMENT IN THE FORM OF A CASHIER=92S CHECK/BANK CHECK WITHIN TEN = (10) DAYS OF THE AUCTION=92S END, lest ye suffer the perils of negative = Karma and be subject to a most unfavorable feedback posting. Serenity = Now! Any questions? Please E-mail me. 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Hi George Van Wagner:

Are you part of the Line 6 company?  I believe someone on this list
represents them, is it you?  If you are, than will this feature to save the
setting to the rotary dial be part of any future software/hardware upgrade?
As Ken Rosser stated, it would be very helpful for all of your modeling
stompboxes.



To Ken, Rich:

I emailed Line 6 and will be glad to post their reply to the list.


Jim


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> DL-4 does not have the ability to save different sounds for each
> position on the rotary switch, and those cannot currently be changed.
>
> George




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Dam Straight... I'd like to the secrets too... but dammed if he's going to 
give it to us.... but he has inspired me to start making my own...... i'll 
let you know how it goes...

>From: Andy Soto 
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>Subject: Re: Home-made synth-for real!!!
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:55:33 -0600 (CST)
>
>
>   We all would like, I´d say!
>
>
>At 12:37 AM 17/01/00 PST, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >i would *love* to get this design, if you please:)
> >
> >zach:)
> >
> >>Dan,
> >>     A few years ago, as an exercise, I sent several of my students to
> >>Radio
> >>Shack to get "electronics labs"--@ around $50.  Then based on what they
> >>learned with the 'labs" they were to create their own sound generating
> >>devices.  They all did well, but a few came up with some amazing and
> >>occassionally simple designs.  Some of them joined up in teams, a few
> >>worked
> >>completely alone.  In my opinion, the best sounding one was fitted to an
> >>enclosure not much larger than a CDROM drive and it was completely 
>covered
> >>with knobs!   Any JP8000 (like mine) would've shit blue bricks with
> >>diamonds
> >>had it heard this baby!!  A girl, an art major built it.  Try it 
>yourself,
> >>you might enjoy it.  ;-)
> >>                 hawkeye
> >>
> >
> >______________________________________________________
> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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not really down the same line of the synth stuff
but can anybody point me to a simple schematic for a test oscillator(with 
variable freq and amp)
im buildling gadgets and such, and i want to free my hands up for trouble 
shooting

thanks

rodrigo

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Thought you all might want to know since a few of you may have hard drives in 
something or other and a few of those hard drives might be Western Digitals.

Western Digital Hard Drive Recall
----------------------------------------------------------

**********************************************************
CAUTION!!! - before doing any testing or removal of a hard drive it
is always best to perform a back-up.
**********************************************************

Read the Western Digital press release on this matter carefully. Understand 
the recall and how the replacement process of affected hard drives are 
handled. If you have any questions about the recall, contact Western Digital 
at 1-800-357-1374 and they will be help you.

--------------------------------------------------
Determining if your hard drive is affected.
--------------------------------------------------
Western Digital "Caviar" drives of 6.8 gigabytes and multiples of 6.8
gigabytes could be affected by this recall notice (6.8, 13.6, 20.4
gigabyte hard drives.)

In order to determine whether or not the Western Digital recall
notice affects your hard drive, you will need to make sure you have a
Western Digital hard drive in your computer.   Next you will need to go
to the Western Digital Web site to download the DRVTEST utility to
get the information off the hard drive.

DRVTEST Utility URL
----------------------------
 http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/drive-alertPC.html.


Getting the Serial # & Determining if Your Drive is Affected
---------------------------------------
Once you have the serial number of the hard drive, you can check 
if it is affected by the recall by going to the following link:

http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/caviar-recall/welcome.html 

What Do I Do if My Drive is Affected?
-----------------------------------------------
******************WARNING! BACK UP YOUR DRIVE
FIRST!********************************
******************WARNING! BACK UP YOUR DRIVE
FIRST!********************************

If your drive is affected you will need to do the following: first it
is important that you back up ALL important information on your hard
drive and second be sure to have ALL information (name, contact phone
number, hard drive serial number, etc.) when contacting
Western Digital to have the hard drive replaced. You can also go
online and fill out a recall registration form and someone from the
Western Digital technical support staff will be get back with
you.   Here is the link to Western Digital for the online recall
registration form:

http://www.westerndigital.com/fitness/caviar-recall/cavrecall-reg.html.

Other Western Digital Contact information:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Western Digital contact information below.
USA: 1-800-357-1374
(901) 381- 3512
Monday-Friday 9 am - 6 pm Central Standard Time
Europe: 31 20 446-7651
Monday-Thursday 9:30 am - 12 noon, 1 pm - 5:30 Central European Time
Friday 9:30 am - 12 noon, 1 pm - 4:00 Central European Time
Hong Kong: 011-852-2736-5123
Japan: 011-813-3-299-1650
S. E. Asia (Singapore): 011-65-441-9989
Taiwan: 011-886-2-717-4775, 011-886-2-717-4776

        hawkeye

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At 5:54 PM -0800 1/18/00, Brent wrote:
>
>
>
>
>http-equiv=Content-Type>eBay item 238812685 (Ends 01/25/00,
>23:06:20 PST) - Lexicon MPX-G2 gtr effects processor

[massive wad of html deleted]

Hi Brent-

PLEASE do not ever post an *entire* huge web page to the list again! That
enormous mail full of html code just filled up an entire issue of the
Looper's Delight digest version. 400 lines, 22KB worth of nothin!

I'm guessing you have no idea what you did wrong. Probably you'll get
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need to do is paste the url into a mail. You don't send the whole page. It
just takes 2-3 lines of text to do it, doesn't get anyone pissed off at
you, and doesn't reveal to the world that you're a brand new internet user
still using the dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express.

thanks,
kim

______________________________________________________________________
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Hi there,

My friend George has just purchased a Roland SP202 sampler and he has come
across a problem that he cannot fix. I have obtained your email address from
Looper's Delight mailing list archive in hope that you may be able to help.

Problem
When a sample/sound comes out of the mixer into the sampler, then loops at a
set level with no samples actually playing, I receive a noise from the
channel which is being queued.

Could the Roland 9v - 240v transformer being used cause this problem or is
it something else?

Thanks,
Justin Alderton

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sorry.

-brent

-----Original Message-----
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>At 5:54 PM -0800 1/18/00, Brent wrote:
>><html><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
>><HTML>
>><HEAD>
>>
>><META content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
>>http-equiv=Content-Type><TITLE>eBay item 238812685 (Ends 01/25/00,
>>23:06:20 PST) - Lexicon MPX-G2 gtr effects processor
>
>[massive wad of html deleted]
>
>Hi Brent-
>
>PLEASE do not ever post an *entire* huge web page to the list again! That
>enormous mail full of html code just filled up an entire issue of the
>Looper's Delight digest version. 400 lines, 22KB worth of nothin!
>
>I'm guessing you have no idea what you did wrong. Probably you'll get
>flamed by a few digest readers for it, but in case it's not clear: All you
>need to do is paste the url into a mail. You don't send the whole page. It
>just takes 2-3 lines of text to do it, doesn't get anyone pissed off at
>you, and doesn't reveal to the world that you're a brand new internet user
>still using the dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express.
>
>thanks,
>kim
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
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>http://www.annihilist.com/  | 
>
>

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''reveal to the world that you're a brand new internet user still using the
dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express.''
thanks,
kim

Are you Saying that only newbies use "dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express" I
still use program and I am far from a "brand new internet user."

your friendly postman.



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Subject: Another EDP for sale on Ebay
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Help this guy buy a set of fingernail clippers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=240754905



TH

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Kim is jalous of all those beatiful flamewars that occur on usenet,
normally started by a newbee making some "nettiquette chapter one
mistake" :Microsoft and HTML 
could have been MAC and Attachment
good try Kim

:-)

Claude

kim
> ''reveal to the world that you're a brand new internet user still using the
> dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express.''
> thanks,
> 
postaldave wrote:
> Are you Saying that only newbies use "dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express" I
> still use program and I am far from a "brand new internet user."
> 
> your friendly postman.

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I'd have chewed that nail off a long time ago if it were mine.

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Brent wrote:

> i tried to access the site you gave and it said that i didn't have the
> password access or something. what's the deal?
>

That is strange, www.altomusic.com was working fine last week but now it appears
to be offline - it says "403 Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on
this server."  I don't know what their story is.  If any one has Alto's phone
number (how 20th Century) please post it for Brent.

and postaldave wrote:

> what is the diff. in the second version? does it matter much?
>

I think someone else here said that the upgrade fixed a few problems related to
the need to occasionally "reboot" the box.  So far I have not encountered any
problems with the version 2 box and I like playing with it too much to send it
off to Line 6 for the upgrade.

Allan


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Yeah... Ditto here on the Outlook Express - which only a misinformed or
non-PC user, or just a Microsoft-Hater, would call "dreaded".  [1] Open can;
[2] Dispense manners.

Thanks postaldave.

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Lots of experience internet users still use Outlook Express..
The problem with it is that it comes installed with HTML encoding
turned on for email.  Most newbies don't realize this and don't
know that HTML encoded messages are not readable by many other
users or that they require much more data to be transmitted
that a plain-text message - if they even know that there is
a difference.

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BladeEnc by Tord Jansson, available for several platforms
http://bladeenc.mp3.no/

BladeEnc for Mac also has a separate homepage at
http://www.helsinki.fi/~pkamppur/bladeencmac.html

It works well. A little slow compared to some other encoders I've tried,
but, hey, it's FREE !

hey hey hey,
Drew

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hey all,

apologies for lack of loop content (i haven't picked up *my* DL4 yet :-)

only 'cause i don't know who else to ask, and i know lotsa you guys (no gender
implied) have done your own cd projects... are there any recommendations of
companies that not only burn & print smallish quantities of cd's (i'm talking
2,000+) but handle printing of packaging as well? we have been in touch with a
few companies here in socal but have not felt they understand simple concepts
like *quality* (example: "why would you need to see a press proof? our printer
uses all the standard inks...")

thanks in advance,

lance g.

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Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?

Thanks!

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me included . . . my ego just took a major hit  ;)

I've had people tell me from time to time that something I sent was garbled
or unreadable and I think I figured it out now

for all you OTHER newbies, click "tools", then "options", then "send" and
then unclick "HTML" by clicking "plain text"--people wiht older browsers
will especially appreciate this (??)

drone on~~~~~~~~~~

Tom Lambrecht
hideo@concentric.net
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>
>
>Lots of experience internet users still use Outlook Express..
>The problem with it is that it comes installed with HTML encoding
>turned on for email.  Most newbies don't realize this and don't
>know that HTML encoded messages are not readable by many other
>users or that they require much more data to be transmitted
>that a plain-text message - if they even know that there is
>a difference.
>
>

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Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format.
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is this a discussion for a loopers ng?
=2E.. or have the pc-/microsoft-users that much problems, that they need =
tips
from mac users?
change your style ... boycott MS!

;-)))))))

hasta la victoria

jes=FAs

Tom Lambrecht schrieb:

> me included . . . my ego just took a major hit  ;)
>
> I've had people tell me from time to time that something I sent was gar=
bled
> or unreadable and I think I figured it out now
>
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nd
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s
> will especially appreciate this (??)
>
> drone on~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Tom Lambrecht
> hideo@concentric.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Floyd Miller <floyd@studiodust.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: newbies and Outlook Express
>
> >
> >
> >Lots of experience internet users still use Outlook Express..
> >The problem with it is that it comes installed with HTML encoding
> >turned on for email.  Most newbies don't realize this and don't
> >know that HTML encoded messages are not readable by many other
> >users or that they require much more data to be transmitted
> >that a plain-text message - if they even know that there is
> >a difference.
> >
> >

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In a message dated 1/17/0 10:49:37 AM, r_t_cummings@compuserve.com writes:

>can anybody suggest an external effect unit (i.e. not software) that
>does digital decimation and/or bit reduction?
>
>i like "crunching" beats this way ...
>

The DL-4  Lo-fi delay mode does make that sound - I searched for a long time 
and am pleased with it as a DELAY...

But if you dont want delay, just processing your beats in real time, you 
might try setting the DL-4 full wet and repeats on minimum,  tweak down the 
bits, and tweez the tone control.  Not sure but this would probably add a 
slight delay to the rhythm, but if it was set 100% wet that might be fine.  
Maybe I'll try it tonight at the studio...


Hey list!  It's been a while!   Hi Miko!  Papa!  Stig - London?  Tony -   and 
all my L.A. pals...  What up?!

eric p
echo park

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dont bother get at least the S2000
TURNKEY are doing a deal for 499 pounds
with the extra 8 outputs not bad when you consider
another £60 you can get the 32 meg upgrade
and another £70 a zip drive you will have yourself
a great sampler  I know because I have had both
the s20 is very very limited for those times that you really got to smash
two pieces of metal together

                  Dave...................
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> Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?
>
> Thanks!
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In a message dated 1/14/0 6:17:27 PM, rich@nuvision.com writes:

>Everybody's experience and needs differ, i am sure

I am here to support this point 100%

> i must say i was
>completely disappointed with the EH Microsynths.  

...and meanwhile I have been finding new, inspiring uses for the Micro for 
6-7 years.
...bought a Bass MS reissue last year for even further variations.

>Also, the interface seemed >kindof unintuitive for me.  But, again,
>that's just me.

...and for me, it's the simplest approach to filtering I've found. Somehow, I 
just can't get other filter boxes to work satisfactorily... but people buy 
them so they must work!

>On the other hand, i have been experimenting with the Electrix Filter
>Factory at the music stores.  A bit more expensive than the EH micros,
>(and a rackmount unit) but ZOWEE...I love the sounds.

...meanwhile, I gave it a few spins a few different times in the stores. Each 
time I looked at it I thought -this thing must be great - well, it is very 
versatile, but somehow I couldn't get one inspiring (to me) sound out of it! 
A few painful ones, but maybe someday...


Point is:  

I think filter effects are some of the trickiest of all. Get your hands on as 
many as you can try and go with the one that can makes you happy EASILY.  I 
go back and forth about selling my Meatball, it can do lots of great things, 
but I can't just jam and go like I can on my trusty, crusty, Microsynth. Good 
Luck and don't compromise. Take no other advice except this!  Tee Hee.

eric p
echo park

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Don't take this the wrong way or anything, but unsolicited ATTACHMENTS sent
to a mailing list kind of venture into that same neighborhood of netiquette
non-niceties...

At 11:49 PM 1/19/00 +0100, you wrote:
>is this a discussion for a loopers ng?
>... or have the pc-/microsoft-users that much problems, that they need tips
>from mac users?
>change your style ... boycott MS!
>
>;-)))))))
>
>hasta la victoria
>
>jesús

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Hello sagely Loopers,

There has been alot of talk about those who do and dont like the micro 
synth, but I never could tell which version they had. So if anyone who has 
done the side by side, or liked one and not the other speak up to help us 
poor blokes who dont have one.
Jeremiah



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thanx.

-brent

-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Hoeltje <ahoeltje@best.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: : DL4 purchase


>
>Brent wrote:
>
>> i tried to access the site you gave and it said that i didn't have the
>> password access or something. what's the deal?
>>
>
>That is strange, www.altomusic.com was working fine last week but now it
appears
>to be offline - it says "403 Forbidden You don't have permission to access
/ on
>this server."  I don't know what their story is.  If any one has Alto's
phone
>number (how 20th Century) please post it for Brent.
>
>and postaldave wrote:
>
>> what is the diff. in the second version? does it matter much?
>>
>
>I think someone else here said that the upgrade fixed a few problems
related to
>the need to occasionally "reboot" the box.  So far I have not encountered
any
>problems with the version 2 box and I like playing with it too much to send
it
>off to Line 6 for the upgrade.
>
>Allan
>
>

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well all (or southern: yall), i may be a "newbie" (certainly valid), and
yes, i was not aware of the html mess outlook has, but i appologize
(PROFUSELY) [especially to Kim as it seems], but i am certainly open to any
suggestions for a different e-mail system. My ears are open.

incredibly sincerely,
brent

-brent
Broman@niu.edu

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: newbies and Outlook Express


>
>
>Lots of experience internet users still use Outlook Express..
>The problem with it is that it comes installed with HTML encoding
>turned on for email.  Most newbies don't realize this and don't
>know that HTML encoded messages are not readable by many other
>users or that they require much more data to be transmitted
>that a plain-text message - if they even know that there is
>a difference.
>

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And, needless to say, you can turn the HTML off.  But I'll say it:  You can
turn the HTML off.

  | -----Original Message-----
  | From: Floyd Miller [mailto:floyd@studiodust.com]
  | Sent: Wednesday 19 January 2000 11:14 AM
  | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
  | Subject: Re: newbies and Outlook Express
  |
  |
  |
  |
  | Lots of experience internet users still use Outlook Express..
  | The problem with it is that it comes installed with HTML encoding
  | turned on for email.  Most newbies don't realize this and don't
  | know that HTML encoded messages are not readable by many other
  | users or that they require much more data to be transmitted
  | that a plain-text message - if they even know that there is
  | a difference.
  |
  |

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Well, having spoken with the designers, I can tell you that their claim is
that they're both the same, just a different name on the cover.
	I, however, don't happen to concur.  My bass never sounded as rich through
the regular Microsynth as through the Bass Microsynth.  I really liked
playing the guitar through the Bass Microsynth, as it had more balls to my
ears.  Even so, the designers claimed that it was just that -- my ears.
Other folks have assured me that indeed both are one and the same.  I would
have felt like I wasted my money buying two of the same, but I always
thought they were different.  Maybe my Bass Microsynth had a different piece
of electronics inside enough to sound different, but the engineers said it
would have been a fluke.
	I would recommend to anybody to sit down with both, side by side, and play
one instrument through one at a time and make your decision after listening
for any difference.
	As for my opinion, I would rather buy -- in 2000 -- some other piece of
gear that did sort of what the Microsynth does.  There have been a couple of
things recommended in this list.  I happen to feel that the Microsynth
design and intention were good for the late seventies, but not for our age.
Unless you are into heavy-duty retrospectives, I would say skip it and get
something else.

  | -----Original Message-----
  | From: George Washington [mailto:jeremiah266@hotmail.com]
  | Sent: Wednesday 19 January 2000 8:32 PM
  | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
  | Subject: RI Micro-synth VS Original?
  |
  |
  | Hello sagely Loopers,
  |
  | There has been alot of talk about those who do and dont like the micro
  | synth, but I never could tell which version they had. So if
  | anyone who has
  | done the side by side, or liked one and not the other speak up
  | to help us
  | poor blokes who dont have one.
  | Jeremiah
  |
  |
  |
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Not genius - try the Zoom SampleTrak.


cheers,

os.



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>Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?
>
>Thanks!
>
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Any chance that the new Trace 'Plex will debut at NAMM? Anyone on the list
planning on going and giving us a report of any new looping devices? Please?

Dave Eichenberger- guitars/loops/devices
http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave

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Travis, I'd bet that it's a girl.

  | -----Original Message-----
  | From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:hartne.t@apple.com]
  | Sent: Wednesday 19 January 2000 9:39 AM
  | To: Looper's Delight
  | Subject: Another EDP for sale on Ebay
  | 
  | 
  | Help this guy buy a set of fingernail clippers:
  | 
  | http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=240754905
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | TH
  | 
  | 

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Yeah, I also think Outlook Express is a pretty cool program.

  | -----Original Message-----
  | From: postaldave [mailto:postaldave@qx.net]
  | Sent: Wednesday 19 January 2000 7:55 AM
  | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
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  | 
  | 
  | ''reveal to the world that you're a brand new internet user 
  | still using the
  | dreaded Microsoft Outlook Express.''
  | thanks,
  | kim
  | 
  | Are you Saying that only newbies use "dreaded Microsoft Outlook 
  | Express" I
  | still use program and I am far from a "brand new internet user."
  | 
  | your friendly postman.
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 

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nooooooooo
                     not the zoom sample track

                    great little toy's BUT COME
ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EMU OR AKAI ....................
----- Original Message -----
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> Not genius - try the Zoom SampleTrak.
>
>
> cheers,
>
> os.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jovin _ <jovin_@hotmail.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:44 PM
> Subject: akai s20 phrase sampler - opinions?
>
>
> >Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
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>

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Are you in some way suggesting that music can only be validly made with
"professional" equipment?

That would be a shame...

os.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Young <Massive.Arp@nationwideisp.net>
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>nooooooooo
>                     not the zoom sample track
>
>                    great little toy's BUT COME
>ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>EMU OR AKAI ....................
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Os <os@scee.sony.co.uk>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:52 AM
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>
>
>> Not genius - try the Zoom SampleTrak.
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> os.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jovin _ <jovin_@hotmail.com>
>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:44 PM
>> Subject: akai s20 phrase sampler - opinions?
>>
>>
>> >Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >______________________________________________________
>> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>> >
>>
>>
>

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I played through one of the first DL4 in Australia today.  Very =
impressed.
It goes for $700 (Aust) with out an adapter.  Hows that for making a =
killing.
Of couse I wish it was cheaper. But I'll still buy one.
Has anyone heard what Doug Wimbish is up to these days.

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If you want to try some thing. Grab your Boss CS-3 compressor.
and turn the voltage down to 7.5 volts. It works well on bass,
on guitar it could be a mistake, i dont know.
Also I'm from the land of 240 volts, which might alter things slightly.
I don't know about that either.  I don't know much do I.
Try which voltage works for you and everyone will be happy. O.K.

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hmmm.....
i have a zoom sampletrak, & am very pleased w/it: though, i do wish zoom offered an optional battery-pack..
i use it quite a bit; that is, whenever i can get it outta my son's hands!
dt


> >nooooooooo
> >                     not the zoom sample track
> >
> >                    great little toy's BUT COME
> >ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >EMU OR AKAI ....................

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At 12:24 AM 1/20/00 -0600, Brent wrote:
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I was not sugesting that these other samplers are crap ,
Even as a home studio set up they are pretty limited
and for a couple of hundred you can get the S2000
you know for £360 you can have a S2000 and that's a ligitimate price so come
on

what would you do    - BUY SAMPLETRAC £250
or  -   for an extra £110 you get the jobby!!!!!!!!!!!

You can upgrade to nearly S3000  status as your
Wallet allows (this comes from someone who work's hard for there money) and
want's the best deal around so im glad Zoom and other companies
are offering Value gear it's great for everyone
makes big fish like akai Drop There Prices.

Anyway that's my opinion

So i just would like to say SORRY to anyone
whom felt i was just slagging the gear off
But be honest your sat there with your sampletrac
thinking for £110 extra ?  it's not a lot considering
what you get   WHY DRINK PLONK WHEN YOU CAN HAVE CHAMPAGNE  FOR  NOT MUCH
MORE
YOU WOULD'NT  BUY  A ROBIN RELIANT
WHEN YOU COULD HAVE WELL ANYTHING REALLY

        ANYWAY that's it   and no it does not matter
what you got it's how you use it     Dave Young......

So everybody enjoy your samplers what ever they are
.................................................................
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> Are you in some way suggesting that music can only be validly made with
> "professional" equipment?
>
> That would be a shame...
>
> os.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Young <Massive.Arp@nationwideisp.net>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: akai s20 phrase sampler - opinions?
>
>
> >nooooooooo
> >                     not the zoom sample track
> >
> >                    great little toy's BUT COME
> >ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >EMU OR AKAI ....................
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Os <os@scee.sony.co.uk>
> >To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: akai s20 phrase sampler - opinions?
> >
> >
> >> Not genius - try the Zoom SampleTrak.
> >>
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> os.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jovin _ <jovin_@hotmail.com>
> >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> >> Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:44 PM
> >> Subject: akai s20 phrase sampler - opinions?
> >>
> >>
> >> >Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?
> >> >
> >> >Thanks!
> >> >
> >> >______________________________________________________
> >> >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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In a message dated 01/19/00 1:07:53 PM, jovin_@hotmail.com writes:

>Anybody try one of these things out?  Any comments?

I have one. And although I DO use it pretty often it has ultimately been 
a disappointment to me in the long run. Files save to/load from standard 
floppies 
v.....e.....r.....y.....v.....e.....r.....y.....v.....e.....r.....y.....s.....
l.....o.....w.....l.....y! 
It also has no MIDI time-clock syncing features. I had rather counted on 
it to have that feature to lock in step with my EDPs. It's still sort of
useful to me for some things and seems pretty rugged, but if I had it to 
do all over again I'd have gotten something else. I'm not sure just what.
I was sort of stuck within a certain price range and at the time (a couple 
of years ago now). There was no Zoom Sampletrak or other possobilities
similar in price at the time. Fortunately, I worked for a certain music 
gear catalog company from which I got it at cost plus 10%. Still, I think 
it was mostly a waste of good money.

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In a message dated 01/20/00 2:11:43 AM, artmusic@gte.net writes:

>Any chance that the new Trace 'Plex will debut at NAMM? Anyone on the list
>planning on going and giving us a report of any new looping devices? Please?

I'll be going but it's mostly a serious business thing. I'll keep on the look 
out 
though. I betcha Kim will probably be there and be the best qualified person 
to report any news anyway. I'm sure there are others on this list that will 
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At 05:10 AM 1/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Any chance that the new Trace 'Plex will debut at NAMM? Anyone on the list
>planning on going and giving us a report of any new looping devices? Please?
>
>Dave Eichenberger- guitars/loops/devices
>http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave
>
>

I should be going to the show.  I will definitely look in the directory for
Trace Elliot's booth and ask as many questions as possible.  If the new
'Plex is there, rest assured...it will have my footprints all over the foot
controller.

I must admit, I am a Jam Man/Digitech PDS/DL-4 guy, and only tried the
'Plex out years ago  (remember...when you could buy 'em new??)  But I will
be happy to be the guinea pig!!!

If any experienced 'Plex users have any specific questions to ask, drop me
a line.  Maybe email me privately, unless it's something we all can learn
from?

later,

rich

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also www.musicmatch.com for a free mp3 burner


and www.xingtech.com for a better one that costs...


mac users are said to love the MPECKER..www.anime.net/~go/mpeckers.html

n-joy


anyone here the new,very strange zappa album?? it's small-orchestral,
ensemble moderne with a bit of shankar violin and some zappa guitar....


*NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo	http://www.ufomusic.com
my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre

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> There has been alot of talk about those who do and dont like the micro
> synth, but I never could tell which version they had. So if anyone who has
> done the side by side, or liked one and not the other speak up to help us
> poor blokes who dont have one.

I have an original and took the new reissue out for an extended  spin a
couple times. I've never tried them side by side but I'm pretty
convinced there are some slight differences. the following is *very*
subjective so YMMV:

The main thing I noticed was the fuzz on the reissue seemed different
than the fuzz on the original. The only way I could explain it is to say
the original was more of a warm square tone whiel the reissue seemed to
be sharper and didn't have as much low end rumble. Now it could be each
pedal has it's own idiosyncricies (sp??) as well but I tired two
different reissues and neither quite grabbed the originals full on fuzz
tone to my ears.

The filter seemed to be closer IMO. it's raspy, nasty and harsh like the
original. 

The other thing that I noticed was the triggering seemed to be more on
or off on the reissue whereas you had more "play" while using the
sliders in the original. They all track horribly anyway but again in my
experience the reissues I tried didn't have as much room for adjustment
as I have on my original especially when you add in the Attack/decay
slider in the mix.

That said the Microsynth is one of my fav poedals period and if I didn't
have an original (bought for $$$ in it's vintage heyday) I'd pick up a
reissue in a second without any qualms whatsoever. Is it worth the extra
couple hundred to buy an original over a new reissue? To me no but then
again I'm more geared to using the stuff rather than collecting it or
dissecting it's ever nuance. I'm sure some purists or tone freaks would
say the original is better. I say they're both pretty damn good and
unless they are the same price, buy whichever one is cheaper.

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> Hey list!  It's been a while!   Hi Miko!  Papa!  Stig - London? 
Tony -   and  all my L.A. pals...  What up?!

Welcome to the new year Eric! Hope all's treating you well... With
all the really pertinent posting on mailers, lo-fi stuff and for sale
listings I just haven't found much to reply to! Although I'm really
curious about the Trace EDP... Want to know that all-important price
point!

I've actually got a real looping gig coming up here in Santa Cruz
which is a real milestone for me. Not sure how much of the gear pile
I'm going to take, but it will be on the "more" side. I think Papa
Dave is also going to confirm and play, but we'll see... Hopefully
I'll record it. (and it will be worth listening to! 8-\) Actually it
might be nice to record everyone... We'll see!

Bestest...
-Miko

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Photos- we want photos!

:)

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich <rich@nuvision.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:34 AM
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>At 05:10 AM 1/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>Any chance that the new Trace 'Plex will debut at NAMM? Anyone on the list
>>planning on going and giving us a report of any new looping devices?
Please?
>>
>>Dave Eichenberger- guitars/loops/devices
>>http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave
>>
>>
>
>I should be going to the show.  I will definitely look in the directory for
>Trace Elliot's booth and ask as many questions as possible.  If the new
>'Plex is there, rest assured...it will have my footprints all over the foot
>controller.
>
>I must admit, I am a Jam Man/Digitech PDS/DL-4 guy, and only tried the
>'Plex out years ago  (remember...when you could buy 'em new??)  But I will
>be happy to be the guinea pig!!!
>
>If any experienced 'Plex users have any specific questions to ask, drop me
>a line.  Maybe email me privately, unless it's something we all can learn
>from?
>
>later,
>
>rich
>

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before they released the reissue i went hunting for a backup for my m.s.
what i found is ALL the originals i tried out (and i tried out about four) 
sounded slightly different.....found one that sounds pretty close to my first 
m.s. (what i'm use too) but still sounds and reacts slightly 
different...........haven't tried the reissue.

micro synth and loops at:
http://members.aol.com/ebnoise.index.html

Brian
electric bird noise

In a message dated 1/20/00 1:01:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
legion@voicenet.com writes:

> > There has been alot of talk about those who do and dont like the micro
>  > synth, but I never could tell which version they had. So if anyone who 
has
>  > done the side by side, or liked one and not the other speak up to help us
>  > poor blokes who dont have one.
>  
>  I have an original and took the new reissue out for an extended  spin a
>  couple times. I've never tried them side by side but I'm pretty
>  convinced there are some slight differences. the following is *very*
>  subjective so YMMV:
>  

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Don't forget to post time/location to the list Miko.

At 10:19 AM 1/20/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>I've actually got a real looping gig coming up here in Santa Cruz
>which is a real milestone for me. Not sure how much of the gear pile
>I'm going to take, but it will be on the "more" side. I think Papa
>Dave is also going to confirm and play, but we'll see... Hopefully
>I'll record it. (and it will be worth listening to! 8-\) Actually it
>might be nice to record everyone... We'll see!

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Not to keep this thread looping forever but I am one of the many unfortunate
users of a Windoze PC.  At work, that is, at home I PROUDLY use an Apple Mac!  I
use Netscape on both machines for Internet News Groups, Web Surfing, and Email.
I like Eudora as an Emailer but Netscape works just fine and is still free.
Outlook, IMHO, like all other Microsoft applications, has too many
hard-to-turn-off "features" that lock you into the Windoze platform/mentality.

Floyd Miller wrote:

> At 12:24 AM 1/20/00 -0600, Brent wrote:
> >well all (or southern: yall), i may be a "newbie" (certainly valid), and
> >yes, i was not aware of the html mess outlook has, but i appologize
> >(PROFUSELY) [especially to Kim as it seems], but i am certainly open to any
> >suggestions for a different e-mail system. My ears are open.
>
> I'd suggest Eudora.  But you are probably used to and happy with Outlook
> Express.  There's really nothing wrong with it, per se.  It's just that
> it installs with some bad default settings and doesn't make users aware
> of those.  And how many people actually read the manual or help information
> to find features they weren't aware existed in the first place?
>
> Please, everyone using Outlook Express, or Eudora, or any other email
> program that can send HTML coding, set it up to not use HTML encoding
> when sending email to this (or any other) mailing list.    Thanks

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Rich wrote:

> If any experienced 'Plex users have any specific questions to ask, drop me
> a line.  Maybe email me privately, unless it's something we all can learn
> from?
>
> later,
>
> rich

I am very interested in the new Plex's sampling quality: sample rate, AD/DA bit
width (still 16? 20? 24?) and whether it still takes the old SIMM modules for
memory expansion. Would be great if it had 24-bit AD/DA.

Have a nice trip!

Robert

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That URL didn't work for me.  Is it correct.

-----Original Message-----
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before they released the reissue i went hunting for a backup for my m.s.
what i found is ALL the originals i tried out (and i tried out about four) 
sounded slightly different.....found one that sounds pretty close to my
first 
m.s. (what i'm use too) but still sounds and reacts slightly 
different...........haven't tried the reissue.

micro synth and loops at:
http://members.aol.com/ebnoise.index.html

Brian
electric bird noise

In a message dated 1/20/00 1:01:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
legion@voicenet.com writes:

> > There has been alot of talk about those who do and dont like the micro
>  > synth, but I never could tell which version they had. So if anyone who 
has
>  > done the side by side, or liked one and not the other speak up to help
us
>  > poor blokes who dont have one.
>  
>  I have an original and took the new reissue out for an extended  spin a
>  couple times. I've never tried them side by side but I'm pretty
>  convinced there are some slight differences. the following is *very*
>  subjective so YMMV:
>  

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Stephen Goodman wrote:

> Two words:  Disc Makers.  Well, actually one.  http://www.discmakers.com
> Great QA, most say best in the biz for what they do.
>
> Stephen Goodman       * It's the free Loop Of The Week!
> EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lance glover" <baumhaus@earthlink.net>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 11:45
> Subject: Re:OT cd manufacturing/packaging
>
> > hey all,
> >
> > apologies for lack of loop content (i haven't picked up *my* DL4 yet :-)
> >
> > only 'cause i don't know who else to ask, and i know lotsa you guys (no
> gender
> > implied) have done your own cd projects... are there any recommendations
> of
> > companies that not only burn & print smallish quantities of cd's (i'm
> talking
> > 2,000+) but handle printing of packaging as well? we have been in touch
> with a
> > few companies here in socal but have not felt they understand simple
> concepts
> > like *quality* (example: "why would you need to see a press proof? our
> printer
> > uses all the standard inks...")
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> >
> > lance g.
> >

stephen,

thanks for the disc makers info. i've actually been in touch w/ them already.
they seem to have it together, but their selection of package designs (though
extensive) doesn't include the very layout i want to use (a six-panel deal w/
center digipak and an insert sleeve on the left side, a la the eno box
set)... anyone out there with further recommendations?


thanks again,

lance g.

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as I understand it from various chats on LD there is _no_ new plex
same hardware but software upgrade

the good news is that we will be able to buy it cheaper than on Ebay...

Claude

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Cliff...

Photos?  Of me?  Where?  Compromising ones?  ha ha...

OK, i'll remember to take my camera...

later,

rich


At 09:54 AM 1/20/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Photos- we want photos!
>
>:)
>
>Cliff
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 9:34 AM
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>
>
>>At 05:10 AM 1/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Any chance that the new Trace 'Plex will debut at NAMM? Anyone on the list
>>>planning on going and giving us a report of any new looping devices?
>Please?
>>>
>>>Dave Eichenberger- guitars/loops/devices
>>>http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I should be going to the show.  I will definitely look in the directory for
>>Trace Elliot's booth and ask as many questions as possible.  If the new
>>'Plex is there, rest assured...it will have my footprints all over the foot
>>controller.
>>
>>I must admit, I am a Jam Man/Digitech PDS/DL-4 guy, and only tried the
>>'Plex out years ago  (remember...when you could buy 'em new??)  But I will
>>be happy to be the guinea pig!!!
>>
>>If any experienced 'Plex users have any specific questions to ask, drop me
>>a line.  Maybe email me privately, unless it's something we all can learn
>>from?
>>
>>later,
>>
>>rich
>>
>
>

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At 12:24 PM 1/20/00 -0500, you wrote:

>anyone here the new,very strange zappa album?? it's small-orchestral,
>ensemble moderne with a bit of shankar violin and some zappa guitar....

is this the rumoured "mystery disc" of yellow shark outtakes?  it's out?!?!

m

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If there's actually a s/w upgrade when will it become available to the
EDP community at large? I'd really like that + speed feature as well
as visible controller update on the display... What other new tricks
are going to be happening?

-Miko

>>> Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> 01/20 11:31 AM >>>
as I understand it from various chats on LD there is _no_ new plex
same hardware but software upgrade

the good news is that we will be able to buy it cheaper than on
Ebay...

Claude

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Hey where and when is the SC show- if one was so inclined...STANNER

----------
>From: "Mike Biffle" <mbiffle@svg.com>
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>> Hey list!  It's been a while!   Hi Miko!  Papa!  Stig - London?
> Tony -   and  all my L.A. pals...  What up?!
>
> Welcome to the new year Eric! Hope all's treating you well... With
> all the really pertinent posting on mailers, lo-fi stuff and for sale
> listings I just haven't found much to reply to! Although I'm really
> curious about the Trace EDP... Want to know that all-important price
> point!
>
> I've actually got a real looping gig coming up here in Santa Cruz
> which is a real milestone for me. Not sure how much of the gear pile
> I'm going to take, but it will be on the "more" side. I think Papa
> Dave is also going to confirm and play, but we'll see... Hopefully
> I'll record it. (and it will be worth listening to! 8-\) Actually it
> might be nice to record everyone... We'll see!
>
> Bestest...
> -Miko
>
> 

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Claude Voit wrote:

> as I understand it from various chats on LD there is _no_ new plex
> same hardware but software upgrade

Ouch. 16 bit AD/DA is..., well, dated. Soundwise, I mean.
New software? Okay, a stereo plex in one unit. :-)
Or would that mean new hardware? Hmm.

>
>
> the good news is that we will be able to buy it cheaper than on Ebay...
>
> Claude

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Well... It IS confirmed so I'll say it's at the Bulkhead Gallery on
Feb 13th, 8:30pm. Don't know the price and some players haven't
confirmed yet. At this point I'm doing a slot and Rick Walker is. I'll
make a more formal announcement with the address and all in a couple
weeks.

-m

>>> "Stan Card" <stanitarium@earthlink.net> 01/20 1:55 PM >>>
Hey where and when is the SC show- if one was so inclined...STANNER

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>Ouch. 16 bit AD/DA is..., well, dated. Soundwise, I mean.

I have a different viewpoint.  16 bit AD/DA dated, well, yeah, I suppose.  If
the 'plex was designed today it would probably be 24-bit.  However, I doubt that
24-bits would make any audible difference.  16 bit linear coding is still
"cd-quality", afterall.  24-bit resolution would be important if the 'plex did
any signal twisting, but the 'plex is basically just "bits in and bits out".
The higher resolution is important when you're processing the signal, like doing
math on it (filters, phasors, compressors, etc), and you compute a value larger
than 16 bits.  With the 'plex, the only signal processing is when you overdub
you're doing an addition.

The biggest advantage for a 24-bit 'plex would probably be greater dynamic range
rather than greater clarity.

>New software? Okay, a stereo plex in one unit. :-)
>Or would that mean new hardware? Hmm.

But I'm all for a hardware update!

Dennis Leas
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dennis@mdbs.com



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Try this one. I fixed it for ya Brian, heh
http://members.aol.com/ebnoise/index.html
jd

"Wordsman, Lee" wrote:

> That URL didn't work for me.  Is it correct.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 1:29 PM
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> <snip>
> micro synth and loops at:
> http://members.aol.com/ebnoise.index.html
>
> Brian
> electric bird noise
>
> In a message dated 1/20/00 1:01:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> legion@voicenet.com writes:
>
> > > There has been alot of talk about those who do and dont like the micro
> >  > synth, but I never could tell which version they had. So if anyone who
> has
> >  > done the side by side, or liked one and not the other speak up to help
> us
> >  > poor blokes who dont have one.
> >
> >  I have an original and took the new reissue out for an extended  spin a
> >  couple times. I've never tried them side by side but I'm pretty
> >  convinced there are some slight differences. the following is *very*
> >  subjective so YMMV:
> >

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Robert van der Kamp wrote:
> 
> Claude Voit wrote:
> 
> > as I understand it from various chats on LD there is _no_ new plex
> > same hardware but software upgrade
> 
> Ouch. 16 bit AD/DA is..., well, dated. Soundwise, I mean.
> New software? Okay, a stereo plex in one unit. :-)
> Or would that mean new hardware? Hmm.
> 
input---output that's mono and that's all I guess

lets just hope that at one time soon one big manufacturer understands
this visionary
music tool and upgrades the idea for y2k ---insert your specs dreams
here---

as an user I can tell that even with what we have today be prepared for
a long and passionate learning of this tool/instrument
its a deep deep mirror with a lot of rabbits in there

Claude

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>
>   | Subject: Another EDP for sale on Ebay
>   |
>   |
>   | Help this guy buy a set of fingernail clippers:
>   |
>   | http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=240754905
>   |
>   |
>   |
>   |

Howdy, if the background is green..sorry, I've updated my Mac to
whatever is current and I'm seeing green here..Now...fingernails____is
this  a guy?   question 1 __or does this individual fingerpick guitar?
#2....and how i wish I could sell some of my stuff to get another
echoplex..ok.ok. i'm greedy
j

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jsd wrote:

> Howdy, if the background is green..sorry, I've updated my Mac to
> whatever is current and I'm seeing green here..Now...fingernails____is
> this  a guy?   question 1 __or does this individual fingerpick guitar?

Look at the left hand. I don't think this person
even plays guitar.

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full lunar eclips (sp) and -25 degree wind chill..........i love 
it...........michael

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Does anyone know for sure if the boomerang allows one to manually adjust the
tempo of a current live loop?

-brent
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At 07:48 PM 1/20/00 -0600, you wrote:
>does this individual fingerpick guitar?

With both hands?

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Anyone on the LD list using the Creamware Pulsar in their setups ? The
latest version has a sample-and-hold module - other than that the system
packs a lot of features into one board.

just curious .... cheers,

Darcy

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a second take at self promotion:

this time the pseudo buddha site (a group featuring james h sidlo, james
rhodes & bobdog from looper's delight) is up and working after a little
server weirdness.

http://www.pseudobuddha.com/

the realaudio streaming is streaming nicely now, and is loaded with all
of the tracks from our "motive" cd + a cut from th nemoguitt chaintape
project (hi michael)

http://www.pseudobuddha.com/player.html

may i reccomend #3 (solo), #4 (moth canal), #6 (jehovah..) & #7 (ephod)
as some loopy oriented cuts.

adios,

bobdog

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It's already started as I type, folks.  By 8pm PST (11pm EST) the moon will
have gone total... Just a little reminder. :)

Stephen Goodman       * It's the free Loop Of The Week!
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no you can´t, you have to stop the loop and then change the tempo.




At 08:17 PM 20/01/00 -0600, you wrote:
>Does anyone know for sure if the boomerang allows one to manually adjust the
>tempo of a current live loop?
>
>-brent
>Broman@niu.edu
>
>
>

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"Dennis W. Leas" wrote:

> >Ouch. 16 bit AD/DA is..., well, dated. Soundwise, I mean.
>
> I have a different viewpoint.  16 bit AD/DA dated, well, yeah, I suppose.  If
> the 'plex was designed today it would probably be 24-bit.  However, I doubt that
> 24-bits would make any audible difference.  16 bit linear coding is still
> "cd-quality", afterall.  24-bit resolution would be important if the 'plex did
> any signal twisting, but the 'plex is basically just "bits in and bits out".
> The higher resolution is important when you're processing the signal, like doing
> math on it (filters, phasors, compressors, etc), and you compute a value larger
> than 16 bits.  With the 'plex, the only signal processing is when you overdub
> you're doing an addition.

I don't agree with you here, Dennis.
16 bit AD/DA is fine for processed and compressed sound. The stuff that is the result
of a master mix in a sound studio. Most of the sound is at the high volume levels, where
, say, 12 to 16 bits are used to encode the samples.

What we are doing is quite different. We are toying with mostly uncompressed and
more suttle sounds in a much wider range, including many low level sounds. (Think
of decayng audio!). These suttle low-level sounds only use a few bits (say 4 or 5)
to encode the sample. Ever heared an old 8-bit sampler? Well, this is worse.
Try it. Take a  continous sound, feed it through the plex at a very low level, crank
up the volume and enjoy the low bit rate noise.

A 24-bit AD would give much more bits to low-level sounds, reducing the low bit rate
noise.

>
> The biggest advantage for a 24-bit 'plex would probably be greater dynamic range
> rather than greater clarity.

See above.

>
>
> >New software? Okay, a stereo plex in one unit. :-)
> >Or would that mean new hardware? Hmm.
>
> But I'm all for a hardware update!
>

Yes!!! We still agree, then. ;-)

Robert

>
> Dennis Leas
> -----------------------------
> dennis@mdbs.com

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Nope.
jd

Brent wrote:

> Does anyone know for sure if the boomerang allows one to manually adjust the
> tempo of a current live loop?
>
> -brent
> Broman@niu.edu

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could be a lefty?
jd

David Beardsley wrote:

> jsd wrote:
>
> > Howdy, if the background is green..sorry, I've updated my Mac to
> > whatever is current and I'm seeing green here..Now...fingernails____is
> > this  a guy?   question 1 __or does this individual fingerpick guitar?
>
> Look at the left hand. I don't think this person
> even plays guitar.
>
> --
> * D a v i d         B e a r d s l e y
> *           xouoxno@virtulink.com
> *
> * 49/32  R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time"
> * M E L A  v i r t u a l  d r e a m house monitor
> *
> * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm

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Hello,

	 hmmm....well without rerecording the loop I don't think you can
...unless it is part of the upgrade they will/or do offer. But the ones' I
have do not do this. But, you can set it at 1/2 speed which will slow the
tempo in 1/2 approx. but even then you have to stop the current loop and
then restart it.

Denis

Denis Taaffe
denis_aliengtr@geocities.com
http://www.dtguitar.com

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Does anyone know for sure if the boomerang allows one to manually adjust the
tempo of a current live loop?

-brent
Broman@niu.edu

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>What we are doing is quite different. We are toying with mostly uncompressed
and
>more suttle sounds in a much wider range, including many low level sounds.
(Think
>of decayng audio!). These suttle low-level sounds only use a few bits (say 4 or
5)
>to encode the sample. Ever heared an old 8-bit sampler? Well, this is worse.
>Try it. Take a  continous sound, feed it through the plex at a very low level,
crank
>up the volume and enjoy the low bit rate noise.

Sounds like a good experiment.  I'll try it this week-end.  I have two 'plexes
and I'm particularly interested in seeing if they behave the same.

But before I do, I'll shoot my mouth off :)

What I suspect you're hearing is the noisegate opening and closing sporadically
on the 'plex.  I've ran into this "feature" when I've tried to loop sounds that
come-up from inaudibility to a decent level and return to inaudibility.  I hear
the gate snap-open and snap-shut rather than a smooth transition from/to
inaudibility.  Not the effect I was after.

Now the gate is required for the UNDO feature but it would be nice to defeat it
sometimes, when you know you not going to UNDO.  (Kim?)

A signal that is only 4 or 5 bits in magnitude is REAL quiet.  Perhaps I need to
find less rowdy places to play or a more polite audience? :)  Kind of a new
definition for a "two bit place"?

Good discussion.

Dennis Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com



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howdy, y'all two gigs that will have some loopage (plus other stuff)
happening:



                   Jeff Kaiser Trio and Aulos Saxophone Quartet

Jeff Kaiser Trio 
Jeff Kaiser, trumpet and electronics
Woody Aplanalp, guitars 
Steuart Liebig, basses

pretty wacky little band here, woody and i loop, jeff might do some, and
then there's other weirdness


Aulos Saxophone Quartet: Alan Lechusza, Jason Stone, Francisco Martinez,
Chris Charbonneau

Bring blankets, pillows, bean-bag chairs, lawn chairs, et cetera. This is an
indoor-sit-on-the-floor affair.



Saturday, January 22, 2000, 8 p.m.
Art City II, 
31 Peking Street, Ventura, CA (on the very edge)
Admission: $5



AND THEN . . . AND THEN . . . AND THEN . . . AND THEN . . . AND THEN . . .
AND THEN . . . AND THEN . . . AND THEN . . .

Splinter Group
GE Stinson, guitars, effects, loopage
Steuart Liebig, basses, effects, loopage
Kaoru, vocals, effects, loopage
DJ Chowderhead, turntables, effects, etc.

another wacky little band . . . 


Rhino Westwood 
1720 Westwood Blvd. 
Westwood, CA
(310) 474-8685
23 January 2000, 6 p.m. 

FREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREEFREE

this instore is for GE's new CD "Vapor" on Ecstatic Peace.

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Stu,

In a message dated 01/21/00 6:49:31 AM, LiebigSA@Maritz.com writes:

>Jeff Kaiser Trio and...etc. etc.

Say hello to Jeff for me. He and I have been great friends for years and 
years (and occasional partners in a lot of weird music making). I'm glad to 
hear he's getting around so much (and apparently still keeping good musical 
company).

Break a nail.

Ted Killian

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Some of you may be interested in this. ;-)

By the way, some of you don't seem to realize that the echoplex developers
are right here on the list. You don't need to wait until NAMM to ask us
questions. Just ask same as you always have. I answer when I have time.
(not much lately...)

Also, to dispel some of the rampant confusion going on yesterday (for what,
the 9th time? we seem to be in an echoplex rumor loop... :-),  the echoplex
being produced by Trace is not a "new" echoplex. It is just the continued
production of the Echoplex. All they did was move the production to a new
facility, where it will enjoy much better quality and attention. Think of
the last 9 months as a "leave of absence", and now it is back!

Also, Aurisis is working on the next major software version for the
Echoplex, which will run on the same hardware. This has nothing to do with
the production schedules at Trace/Gibson, and is unrelated to developments
there, good or bad. We're not done, so you won't see it at NAMM. (as Claude
should know, of anybody....;-)

cheers,
kim


>Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:21:40 -0500
>From: "Trace Elliot Ltd" <info@trace-elliot.com>
>To: <keepnews@node.net>, <relations@gibson.com>,
>        <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Cc: <relations@gibson.com>
>Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex?
>
>Dear James,
>Echoplex update:-
>I've just finished testing/building/packing the first 5 production
>Echoplexes, (Echopli?), and they have just left on a truck for the airport.
>These are destined for the NAMM show in LA. The upshot is that we are in
>full swing as far as production goes and they will be in the shops just as
>fast as we can build them.
>Please pass this on to anyone else who may have interest in the long running
>saga,
>Cheers,
>Andy.
>
>Trace Elliot Contact Information
>*************************************
>Trace Elliot (UK) Ltd
>Blackwater Trading Estate
>The Causeway
>Maldon
>Essex
>United Kingdom
>CM9 4GG
>
>Tel: +44 (0)1621 851851
>Fax: +44 (0)1621 851932
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Trace Elliot Ltd <info@trace-elliot.com>
>To: <keepnews@node.net>; <relations@gibson.com>;
><Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Cc: <prod@trace-elliot.com>; <relations@gibson.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 3:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Whither Echoplex?
>
>
>> Dear James,
>>
>> sorry you didn't get a reply to the last e-mail.
>>
>> I have the first completed Echoplex on my desk which was shown and
>approved
>> by Gibson in the US just before Christmas. I only have one slight delay in
>> getting it into production, that being the programming of the PALs. This
>> will be resolved on Tues of next week when a specialised chip programming
>> machine arrives, it will then be full steam ahead and they should be
>> shipping within a few weeks. I won't bore you with the details of the
>> problems I have had converting this unit from US to UK production but a
>lot
>> of it has to do with similar problems experienced by NASA with the Mars
>> probe! It has not been quite as costly for us to carry out the conversion
>> and I can see no more problems, (fingers crossed!)
>> All the best,
>> Andy Ewen
>> R&D Manager.
>>
>> Trace Elliot Contact Information
>> *************************************
>> Trace Elliot (UK) Ltd
>> Blackwater Trading Estate
>> The Causeway
>> Maldon
>> Essex
>> United Kingdom
>> CM9 4GG
>>
>> Tel: +44 (0)1621 851851
>> Fax: +44 (0)1621 851932
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: James Keepnews <keepnews@node.net>
>> To: <relations@gibson.com>; <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>> Cc: <prod@trace-elliot.com>; <relations@gibson.com>;
><prod@trace-elliot.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Whither Echoplex?
>>
>>
>> > Greetings.
>> >
>> > In and among my new year's resolutions for this Y2G is to absolutely,
>> > mercilessly and without surcease pester Gibson brands with questions
>> > regarding the long-promised, increasingly deferred and ultimately
>> > unavilable (former) Oberheim Echoplex. In my last post to the Gibson
>> > on-line forum, it was suggested that Gibson's Trace Elliot division
>> > would be releasing this premier looping device sometime at the beginning
>> > of this year; I now understand that this release has been (once more!)
>> > pushed back to the spring.
>> >
>> > It's a shame that this product -- a profitable one for Gibson, from my
>> > understanding -- continually experiences production setbacks and delays
>> > on its new release. A cynic might believe that it might never see the
>> > light of a commercial day again. I am not that cynic, but I am cynical
>> > enough to believe that nothing at all will occur on Gibson's end without
>> > a regular reminder of interest in this product. Accordingly, I am
>> > forwarding this note to Gibson Corporate, Trace Elliot product
>> > development (from whom I am still awaiting a reply from my last e-mail)
>> > and the Looper's Delight mailing list. Sunlight is the best
>> > disinfectant, of practices as much as product development.
>> >
>> > I invite you to look forward to my next note to you all, and a regular
>> > stream of similarly inquisitive notes, until either the Echoplex is
>> > brought back into production or a statement is issued to the effect that
>> > the unit will never be issued again. Au revoir!
>> >
>> > Very truly yours,
>> > James Keepnews
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

______________________________________________________________________
Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
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>>anyone here the new,very strange zappa album?? it's small-orchestral,
>>ensemble moderne with a bit of shankar violin and some zappa guitar....
>
>is this the rumoured "mystery disc" of yellow shark outtakes?  it's out?!?!
>
>m
>


i suppose it is...liner notes describe how the EM paid their own way to LA
-- to rehearse and record with FZ.. also he called in Shankar to 'teach
indian phrasing' - and Shankar ends up jamming with the EM and FZ...!!

mostly new stuff -- with a reading of amnerika, t'mershi duween, and maybe
one more older tune. Of - course - once again - the more conservative of
'serious' music heads will despise this along with all other zappa CDs -
since there are a couple readings from the letters section of a Piercing
Quarterly...

bummer.why does frank have to scare off new fans - even from the grave.

but -- great CD nonetheless.How do ya get it??

well -- last i checked - a week ago - there wasno info on that LAMEST of
sites - www.zappa.com - but you can order the CD thru teh Zappa family
'trust' - just call 1-818-PUMPKIN

andre'
*NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo	http://www.ufomusic.com
my site http://www.monmouth.com/~andre

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Are you looking for something refreshing that doesn't involve wind-chill?

How about stopping by The Zeitgeist Gallery, 312 Broadway in Cambridge, MA
[corner of Norfolk & Broadway]  
9:00pm this Saturday for FREE a show called Image Meets Music?

Dr. 	T  		 	Video Projections
David Kirkdorffer/UNDO		Unguitar
Neil Leonard			Sax
Ken Field			Sax
DJ Flack			Turntables
Daniel Orlansky			Didj

This will be an improvised multi-media dialog, with musicians and video
artist looking at, listening to, and responding to each others creations.

@ The Zeitgeist Gallery
312 Broadway in Cambridge
[corner of Norfolk & Broadway]
9:00pm

Opening Act: Ken Field and the Board of Education,  accompanied by Dr. T
Video Projections

Hope to see you there.
As always, bring your awareness however you will.

David Kirkdorffer
UNDO

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Kim Flint wrote:

> Some of you may be interested in this. ;-)
>
> By the way, some of you don't seem to realize that the echoplex developers
> are right here on the list. You don't need to wait until NAMM to ask us
> questions. Just ask same as you always have. I answer when I have time.
> (not much lately...)
>

You're right Kim, I didn't really realize. I'm also used to wait
until NAMM to learn about new features of a product.

Robert

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"Dennis W. Leas" wrote:

> >What we are doing is quite different. We are toying with mostly uncompressed
> and
> >more suttle sounds in a much wider range, including many low level sounds.
> (Think
> >of decayng audio!). These suttle low-level sounds only use a few bits (say 4 or
> 5)
> >to encode the sample. Ever heared an old 8-bit sampler? Well, this is worse.
> >Try it. Take a  continous sound, feed it through the plex at a very low level,
> crank
> >up the volume and enjoy the low bit rate noise.
>
> Sounds like a good experiment.  I'll try it this week-end.  I have two 'plexes
> and I'm particularly interested in seeing if they behave the same.
>
> But before I do, I'll shoot my mouth off :)

Do it afterwards, when the experiment proofed right. ;-)
Better don't do it at all...

>
>
> What I suspect you're hearing is the noisegate opening and closing sporadically
> on the 'plex.  I've ran into this "feature" when I've tried to loop sounds that
> come-up from inaudibility to a decent level and return to inaudibility.  I hear
> the gate snap-open and snap-shut rather than a smooth transition from/to
> inaudibility.  Not the effect I was after.

Hmm, didn't know that. Don't have a plex. I'm waiting for the (really great) LOOP
software fitted in a modern (preferably true stereo) unit with decent audio specs.
The problem is that THE WHOLE PRODUCTION is living *in* the looper. It's
not an effect, it *the* (only) instrument!

>
>
> Now the gate is required for the UNDO feature but it would be nice to defeat it
> sometimes, when you know you not going to UNDO.  (Kim?)

I'm afraid I wil always need UNDO. ;-)

>
>
> A signal that is only 4 or 5 bits in magnitude is REAL quiet.  Perhaps I need to
> find less rowdy places to play or a more polite audience? :)  Kind of a new
> definition for a "two bit place"?

:-) Great definition! Anyway, try with suttle stuff, or stuff that increases in volume.
Or listen how a good quality sound dies out. Decrease the feedback until its
nearly quiet and then set the feedback to max and listen to what the plex is
doing with the sound. Maybe the gate comes indeed into play before we reach that
level.

Robert

>
>
> Good discussion.
>
> Dennis Leas
> -----------------------------
> dennis@mdbs.com

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Kim Flint wrote:

> Some of you may be interested in this. ;-)

Great news Kim! The new plexi actually exist! :-))

Robert

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Well, it looks like five of them do.  And since I'm ready to buy two of them
right off the bat, that leaves three for the rest of the world.  Previous
experience with products shown at NAMM suggests that units will trickle out
6-8 weeks after NAMM.

TH

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> 
> Great news Kim! The new plexi actually exist! :-))

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THIS IS NOT ME.

this is an fyi. contact the seller:


FOR SALE: Lexicon Jam man
      Posted: : 01/20/2000
      Category: Bass Effects
      Condition: Brand New
      Age: 4 Years
      Asking Price: $400

           16 second loop delay, w/ foot switch

      FULL NAME: PJ
      PHONE: 
      CITY, STATE: NM
      EMAIL: pj@lobo.net

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Some of you had requested your passwords for the LD site.  If you have not
received it, please re-email me, as I may have missed several of the
requests.  Thanks.

- Chris

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>Hmm, didn't know that. Don't have a plex. I'm waiting for the (really great)
LOOP
>software fitted in a modern (preferably true stereo) unit with decent audio
specs.
>The problem is that THE WHOLE PRODUCTION is living *in* the looper. It's
>not an effect, it *the* (only) instrument!

Check out a Kyma system ( http://www.SymbolicSound.com ) :
    four channel (quad not stereo)
    up to 100Khz sampling rate at 24 bits

as they say:
"The Software is the Synthesizer...
...and the effects processor, and the sampler, and the hard disk recorder,
and..."
...the looper [my words]

Pricey but available now.

Dennis Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com


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In a message dated 1/21/00 7:27:59 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, 
cho@newdream.net writes:

<< Some of you had requested your passwords for the LD site.  >>

chris........could you find my password........thanks........michael

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>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subject: Re: fingernail clippers
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:26:19 -0500
> From: David Beardsley <xouoxno@virtulink.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>
> Look at the left hand. I don't think this person
> even plays guitar.
> --
> * D a v i d         B e a r d s l e y

yep I believe you're right..I never even scrolled to the right cause as usual I was looking
at the equipment...ok I'll venture a guess..plays the upright harp or maybe the
ChapmanStick___>>other wise clippers are overdue...unless it's a female and then some
filing is in order.. (imho)

    myself? I use my thumbnail for picking..and you can cut yourself quickly with your own
nails..especially if you break your 'pick'  (thumbnail )and forget and don't file the rough
edges off.

and I feverishly await for them..the plexes that is....the other night I was touching
pedals at whim on the EDP and ended up with a 61 sec.pattern that I wandered around and
listened to for the next 3 hrs, trying to decide if I wanted to change anything..I didn't
and just recorded it anyway....

J


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"Dennis W. Leas" wrote:

> >Hmm, didn't know that. Don't have a plex. I'm waiting for the (really great)
> LOOP
> >software fitted in a modern (preferably true stereo) unit with decent audio
> specs.
> >The problem is that THE WHOLE PRODUCTION is living *in* the looper. It's
> >not an effect, it *the* (only) instrument!
>
> Check out a Kyma system ( http://www.SymbolicSound.com ) :
>     four channel (quad not stereo)
>     up to 100Khz sampling rate at 24 bits
>
> as they say:
> "The Software is the Synthesizer...
> ...and the effects processor, and the sampler, and the hard disk recorder,
> and..."
> ...the looper [my words]
>
> Pricey but available now.

Dennis, saw the site. Can I do realtime looping with Kyma? And can you give
me a price estimate?

Robert

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Hello all you little loopers, :)
    The response below is correct. Does any looper have a variable
sample/playback rate? It's a cool idea. You could get those psychedelic swooshes
like on the old tape based echo units.
    The upcoming Boomerang V2.0 software does not add this feature, but will
offer 5 different slow rates. You can drop your loop a musical 2nd, 4th, 5th,
7th or an octave. The octave is half-speed; what the others are, I have no idea.
Of course you can go the other way, too, by recording on slow and playing back
at a faster speed.
    I'll scream and holler when the upgrade is ready. The software's done and we
are finishing up one final mod to the little circuit board.


>          hmmm....well without rerecording the loop I don't think you can
> ...unless it is part of the upgrade they will/or do offer. But the ones' I
> have do not do this. But, you can set it at 1/2 speed which will slow the
> tempo in 1/2 approx. but even then you have to stop the current loop and
> then restart it.
>
>
> Does anyone know for sure if the boomerang allows one to manually adjust the
> tempo of a current live loop?

--
Mike Nelson

Boomerang Musical Products       800-530-4699
PO Box 541595                    214-340-6913, Outside USA
Dallas, TX  75354-1595           214-343-1038, Fax

http://www.boomerangmusic.com    mnelson@dmans.com

"Some products make you sound better;
 the Boomerang Phrase Sampler makes you play better."


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my ol' digitech7.6 time machine does this either by the knob or w/ the cv vol. pedal
conversion i made for it. real cool!
jd

"Mikell D.Nelson" wrote:

> Hello all you little loopers, :)
>     The response below is correct. Does any looper have a variable
> sample/playback rate? It's a cool idea. You could get those psychedelic swooshes
> like on the old tape based echo units.
>     --
> Mike Nelson
>
> Boomerang Musical Products       800-530-4699
> PO Box 541595                    214-340-6913, Outside USA
> Dallas, TX  75354-1595           214-343-1038, Fax
>
> http://www.boomerangmusic.com    mnelson@dmans.com
>
> "Some products make you sound better;
>  the Boomerang Phrase Sampler makes you play better."

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Salut

I just got myself an used Roland octapad Pad-8
No manual

I'd be glad if one of you would in one line describe what the parameters
are and how to save them in the 4 banks
what parameters are global 

the strict minimum to program it

thank you verymuch

Claude

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In a message dated 1/22/00 8:19:12 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, 
mnelson@dmans.com writes:

<<    The upcoming Boomerang V2.0 software does not add this feature, but will
 offer 5 different slow rates. You can drop your loop a musical 2nd, 4th, 5th,
 7th or an octave. The octave is half-speed; what the others are, I have no 
idea.
 Of course you can go the other way, too, by recording on slow and playing 
back
 at a faster speed. >>

hi mike..........will the up-grade allow the stack button to over-dub without 
having to hold it down?..........im finding that i am running out of 
feet.........perhaps you could tell us before hand what the differances are 
going to be between the "new" and "old" software.......what all will the 
"new" allow us to do?..........thanks.........michael

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Thanks Drew!  BladeEnc is soooo slow, but soooo cheap....

David Myers

>BladeEnc by Tord Jansson, available for several platforms
>http://bladeenc.mp3.no/
>
>BladeEnc for Mac also has a separate homepage at
>http://www.helsinki.fi/~pkamppur/bladeencmac.html
>
>It works well. A little slow compared to some other encoders I've tried,
>but, hey, it's FREE !
>
>hey hey hey,
>Drew
>
>__________________________________________________
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>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in
Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

                    Show #148  January 20, 2000.

On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Hypnos Records.  =
Founded by
Mike Griffin, Hypnos is an outstanding source of electronic, ambient, =
and
experimental music.  Tonight's Feature CD at Midnight was Altara by A =
Produce
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moment
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(Quantum Records)

12:00 am
A Produce & M Griffin   Overground               Altara (Hypnos)
A Produce & M Griffin   Altara                   Altara (Hypnos)
A Produce & M Griffin   Diffusion                Altara (Hypnos)
A Produce & M Griffin   Seek Nothing             Altara (Hypnos)
A Produce & M Griffin   You Send Me the Message  Altara (Hypnos)

1:00 am

 * =3D exerpt
VA =3D Various Artists (compilation)

On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on the Hypnos =
label.
The Feature CD at Midnight will be Lost Terrain by Jeff Greinke.

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Dear all

Apologies for intruding on your Saturdays with this feeble piece of self
promotion - however...

I received an email earlier today from something called
<artistlaunch.com> as follows:

>We just wanted to let you know that the David Cooper Orton song "Norwood
>Yew" will be on ArtistLaunch.com's Premiere Artists Show on Saturday,
>January 22, 2000. The show starts at 5:30pm PST, 8:30pm EST, this week
>only. We will be back at our regular time next week.
>
>The current playlist can always be found at
>www.artistlaunch.com/premiere_playlist.htm

I know next to nothing about this, and anyway, by then I'll be fast
asleep here in the UK, but it may appeal to some on this list. 

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Hello,

We just wanted to let you know that the David Cooper Orton song "Norwood Yew" will be on ArtistLaunch.com's Premiere Artists Show on Saturday, January 22, 2000. The show starts at 5:30pm PST, 8:30pm EST, this week only. We will be back at our regular time next week.

The current playlist can always be found at www.artistlaunch.com/premiere_playlist.htm

We hope that you can tune in for at least a portion of the show, and that you will encourage you friends to do so too! There are limited slots available, and many artists who would like to be on. Your participation and support, shown by just listening to the show, enables us to become visible to the general public and attract an even larger audience.- meaning more exposure for the independent artists on the shows, and the capacity for us to do even more shows!  A win/win situation - and it's so easy - all you have to do is listen,

Besides, it's great entertainment! This is radio the way it used to be and the way it should be, before everything was formulas and formats, before it all went corporate. The music is NEW, different, and exciting!

Dave Walton
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WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice for January, 2000.
Shows #144 to #147; 23-December-1999 to 13-January-2000
Reported in alphabetical order by artist.
Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net

CONTACT:   >>> billfox@fast.net <<<

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Robert Carty - Microspirals - Deep Sky
Dave Fulton - Hard Particles - Eurock
Intelligentsia - Federation - Groove
Detlef Keller - Behind the Tears - Manikin
Lambert - Mirror of Motions - Spheric
Jon O'Bergh - Millennial Landscapes - Timescape Music
Vidna Obmana & Alio Die - Echo Passage - Musica Maxima Magnetica
Vidna Obmana & Jeff Pearce - True Stories - Mirage
Pyramid Peak - Ocean Drive - Invisible Shadows
Robert Rich - Geometry - Fathom
Robert Rich - Seven Veils - Hearts of Space
Robert Rich - Inner Landscapes - Hypnos
Dom F. Scab - Innerseed - Free Records
Spacecraft - Earthtime Tapestry - Lektronic Soundscapes
Tony Stoufer - One Swell Foop - Absolute Obscurity
Various - Weightless, Effortless - Hypnos
Various - Convergent Evolution - Greenhouse
Various - Music for the 3rd Millennium - AMP
wEirD - A Different Kind of Normal - Neu Harmony
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>I received an email earlier today from something called
><artistlaunch.com> as follows:
>
> >We just wanted to let you know that the David Cooper Orton song "Norwood
> >Yew" will be on ArtistLaunch.com's Premiere Artists Show on Saturday,
> >January 22, 2000. The show starts at 5:30pm PST, 8:30pm EST, this week
> >only. We will be back at our regular time next week.
> >
> >The current playlist can always be found at
> >www.artistlaunch.com/premiere_playlist.htm
>
>I know next to nothing about this, and anyway, by then I'll be fast
>asleep here in the UK, but it may appeal to some on this list.
>
>Cheers
>
>David

Congratulations David! I'm surprised they didn't ask first. I thought I read 
somewhere on mp3.com that radio shows had to get permission from you to play 
your song. Of course, you may have had your song available elsewhere.

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Hi Mike,
will you have to stop the loop to switch between the different slow rates?
jd

"Mikell D.Nelson" wrote:

> Hello all you little loopers, :)
>     The response below is correct. Does any looper have a variable
> sample/playback rate? It's a cool idea. You could get those psychedelic swooshes
> like on the old tape based echo units.
>     The upcoming Boomerang V2.0 software does not add this feature, but will
> offer 5 different slow rates. You can drop your loop a musical 2nd, 4th, 5th,
> 7th or an octave. The octave is half-speed; what the others are, I have no idea.
> Of course you can go the other way, too, by recording on slow and playing back
> at a faster speed.
>     I'll scream and holler when the upgrade is ready. The software's done and we
> are finishing up one final mod to the little circuit board.
>
> >          hmmm....well without rerecording the loop I don't think you can
> > ...unless it is part of the upgrade they will/or do offer. But the ones' I
> > have do not do this. But, you can set it at 1/2 speed which will slow the
> > tempo in 1/2 approx. but even then you have to stop the current loop and
> > then restart it.
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know for sure if the boomerang allows one to manually adjust the
> > tempo of a current live loop?
>
> --
> Mike Nelson
>
> Boomerang Musical Products       800-530-4699
> PO Box 541595                    214-340-6913, Outside USA
> Dallas, TX  75354-1595           214-343-1038, Fax
>
> http://www.boomerangmusic.com    mnelson@dmans.com
>
> "Some products make you sound better;
>  the Boomerang Phrase Sampler makes you play better."

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of course what i mean is that you can get those swooshes and hit hold at some point and
it will play at that speed but if you dont hit hold it just fades out and any new stuff
you play will just be at normal pitch, just in a shorter or longer loop.
jd

Jeff Duke wrote:

> my ol' digitech7.6 time machine does this either by the knob or w/ the cv vol. pedal
> conversion i made for it. real cool!
> jd
>
> "Mikell D.Nelson" wrote:
>
> > Hello all you little loopers, :)
> >     The response below is correct. Does any looper have a variable
> > sample/playback rate? It's a cool idea. You could get those psychedelic swooshes
> > like on the old tape based echo units.
> >     --
> > Mike Nelson
> >
> > Boomerang Musical Products       800-530-4699
> > PO Box 541595                    214-340-6913, Outside USA
> > Dallas, TX  75354-1595           214-343-1038, Fax
> >
> > http://www.boomerangmusic.com    mnelson@dmans.com
> >
> > "Some products make you sound better;
> >  the Boomerang Phrase Sampler makes you play better."

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two interesting looking boxes reviewed in "guitar 
player"..........www.electrixpro.com..........michael

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Hello Chris,

Granted I'm a bit of a lurker here, but do avidly follow the list. What is 
this about passwords?

Your elucidation would be most appreciated.

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Hi all,
I hope this kind of behaviour is tolerated
on this list.My apologies if not.

I'm a musician with years of jazz
performing experience and in the last year
I have started programming with MAX/MSP.
I have also just moved to LA and I am
looking to meet up with people to work with
on experimental,techno,whatever you like to call
it projects,gigs, however it's done.

Drop me a line at andrew@kaleidacousticon.com

A big thank you also to one and all for
an entertainingly useful read.

Cheers


Andrew.

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Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

> hi mike..........will the up-grade allow the stack button to over-dub without
> having to hold it down?..........im finding that i am running out of
> feet.........perhaps you could tell us before hand what the differances are
> going to be between the "new" and "old" software.......what all will the
> "new" allow us to do?..........thanks.........michael

Hey Michael,
  Why sure. Let me lay out what we've been up to. Status is that the
software is complete and we have one small hardware mod to take care of.
Then we start making the little modules. The module will replace the
current microprocessor and is about the same size. All existing Rangs
are upgradeable. Some of the older ones will need to replace another
chip in addition to the micro.
  Here's a quick description of the new features.

  * The new Boomerang Phrase Sampler V2.0 software will have 2
independent loops with a couple of modes for transitioning between them.
One mode, called AB1, smoothly transitions to loop B, plays it once,
then goes back to playing loop A, all with one button press.
  * A higher sample rate has been added; original max was 16KHz, new max
rate is 24KHz. This drops the sample time to 1 min 27 sec. While it's
not CD quality, it's a lot crisper.
  * The stack button can be programmed to be either latching or
momentary.
  * You can go directly from recording to stacking. Press record to
start recording, then press stack to conclude recording and enter stack
(overdub) mode.
  * There are 7 selectable decay rates. On the original the decay rate
was fixed at about 2.3dB. The rates are as follows: 1 is no decay, 2 is
the original rate (about 20-25 repeats), 3-6 are progressively quicker
decays and are great when using the Rang as a pure delay, and 7 is
slapback (1 repeat). The new decay rates & latching stack button make
the Rang a great sounding digital delay with tap tempo. The foot roller
becomes the delay level when used like this.
  * The record button can be programmed to behave as it does now or be
disabled during playback. Some folks didn't want to worry about hitting
it while adjusting the foot roller.
  * The half speed concept has been replaced by slow speed, and you have
your choice of five. All are musically related to "normal" speed. The
choices are down a 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th or octave. The pitch drops and the
playback is slowed like the current software going to half speed.
  * This one is small, but an improvement. Originally, if you pressed
once, the next press of play(stop) would stop the loop. Now you can
transition between "continuous" play and play once mode. Confusing?
Here's what you can do that you couldn't before. Start an existing loop
with several stutters or re-starts and then smoothly transition into
playing the loop repeatedly.
  * There are improvements on clicks that occasionally occur at loop
boundaries, particularly when using the Rang in continuous reverse mode
(live reverse lead mode).
  * And finally, we completed the button behavior. For example, in the
original, if you were stacking, the reverse button didn't do anything.
This and all other basic scenarios are fixed. Now you can be stacking
additional parts and freely reverse direction.

  All the new features are ADDITIONS. That is, no original features,
even the lower sampling rates, have been omitted or replaced. The once
button shares duty as the loop A/B button. The reverse or stack buttons
are held down to enter program mode.

-- 
Mike Nelson

Boomerang Musical Products       800-530-4699 
PO Box 541595                    214-340-6913, Outside USA
Dallas, TX  75354-1595           214-343-1038, Fax

http://www.boomerangmusic.com    mnelson@dmans.com

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Hi Jeff,
  Yes, you have to stop the loop to change sample/playback rate.

Jeff Duke wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> will you have to stop the loop to switch between the different slow rates?
> jd

-- 
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Robert,

    Totally matters upon what you are trying to do with the Loopers in 
question...  Really liked what Gary Lucas (of Capt. Beefheart) did with 
several tape echoplexi, wherein he would create a drone or three on one, some 
form of rhythmic effect on the second and then a chord progression on the 
third, or would give a second rhythm or drone.  Then again, he was typically 
doing this as a one man band, and he was using a rather extensive set of 
switch boxes, roughly 5 if my memory serves, along with a pair of volume 
pedals, a distortion pedal, and then there was a small rack which he would 
fiddle with from time to time...  
    This is what really got me hooked on Looping devices, along with seeing 
Andy Summers playing a Roland GR-707 and ridiculous effects by himself on 
stage...

    Been using a Boomerang and a Zoom 2100 with Expression pedal and been 
really happy thus far, though I'd honestly like to give a DL-4 and/or the 
Echoplex a shot with my current setup.

    Tchus,

        Lee-ohki.


PS.  On a different note, you may want to check out the sound track for 
"Serial Experiments Lain (Cyberia Mix)"  Released by Pioneer Stereo PICA 1179 
 (ISBN: 4-988102170127)  Really good music (mostly techno, but all in all a 
great disc.

        L.

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Hi All,
Since I have "limited resources" (i.e. I am broke) and
play bass as well as guitar, I was curious if anyone
had an opinion on whether I should buy a bass or
guitar multi effects pedal, which could at least sound
decent with both guitar and bass? (I guess I'm asking
does bass sounder better through a guitar pedal or
vice versa?) Thank you.

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"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.


and you call yourself a looper.lol

your friendly postman.

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Bobdog and PseudoBuddha:

Thanks for posting your audio files!  Very very cool music and very deep.  I
particularly enjoyed "ephod" -- really nice balance between the floating
melody, drone and rhythmic punctuation.  Excellent work overall!

James

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Subject: Take 2 -Pseudo Buddha website w/realaudio is up


>a second take at self promotion:
>
>this time the pseudo buddha site (a group featuring james h sidlo, james
>rhodes & bobdog from looper's delight) is up and working after a little
>server weirdness.
>
>http://www.pseudobuddha.com/
>
>the realaudio streaming is streaming nicely now, and is loaded with all
>of the tracks from our "motive" cd + a cut from th nemoguitt chaintape
>project (hi michael)
>
>http://www.pseudobuddha.com/player.html
>
>may i reccomend #3 (solo), #4 (moth canal), #6 (jehovah..) & #7 (ephod)
>as some loopy oriented cuts.

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>"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
>
>
>and you call yourself a looper.lol
>
>your friendly postman.

I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
this list.

I guess the postman always works alone. :-)

kim

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> From: "postaldave" <postaldave@qx.net>
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
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> 
> "looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
> 
> 
> and you call yourself a looper.lol
Ever hear the one about the jazz musician who was only in it
for the money?
> 
> your friendly postman.

Cheers

Andrew

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Subject: MY2K musical diary online
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for those who might be interested ... as posting one's personal diary to 
the web becomes the latest fab, here's something slightly different: A 
musical diary.

My friend Karsten Schulze (a keyboard player in Cologne/Germany) had the 
wonderful idea to set himself this goal for 2000:

	To create 10 seconds of music each day.

The 10 seconds could be anything from a composed piece or some 
improvisation to environmental recordings. This promised to be a wonderful 
method to keep making music every day - even when there is very little time 
for music, there should be enough time for 10 seconds and for keeping the 
contact to music. On the other hand, the 10 seconds format is a real 
challenge! It is sometimes more difficult to squeeze a meaningful musical 
statement into 10 seconds than into 3 minutes. On a good day, creating the 
10 seconds can resemble writing a haiku or drawing a zen calligraphy. On a 
bad day, the diary entry will consist of some mediocre idea. (oh yes, I had 
some of these.)

And also ... 366 days of 10 seconds make about one hour of music at the end 
of the year. One CD, that is. (Of course, listening to an hour of musical 
and sound fragments is not for everyone.)

Several musicians have taken up this idea and are working on their own MY2K 
project. There is even a mailing list.

I've set up a webpage today (see URL below) to publish my own musical diary 
(23 entries so far). You can click a calendar and listen to the sound of 
the day. Have fun, and let me know what you think.


*	Michael Peters:		mpeters@csi.com
*	escape veloopity:		electronic guitar loop music
*	hop - fractals in motion: 	strange attractors
*	http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb

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"Ever hear the one about the jazz musician who was only in it
for the money?"   Andrew

laughing hard. postaldave


this is the point when we start getting yelled at for being off topic. 
then again I use outlook express, i'm use to the abuse.lol






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Haven't we seen this before?

--- Michael Peters <mpeters@csi.com> wrote:
> for those who might be interested ... as posting
> one's personal diary to 
> the web becomes the latest fab, here's something
> slightly different: A 
> musical diary.
> 
> My friend Karsten Schulze (a keyboard player in
> Cologne/Germany) had the 
> wonderful idea to set himself this goal for 2000:
> 
> 	To create 10 seconds of music each day.
> 
> The 10 seconds could be anything from a composed
> piece or some 
> improvisation to environmental recordings. This
> promised to be a wonderful 
> method to keep making music every day - even when
> there is very little time 
> for music, there should be enough time for 10
> seconds and for keeping the 
> contact to music. On the other hand, the 10 seconds
> format is a real 
> challenge! It is sometimes more difficult to squeeze
> a meaningful musical 
> statement into 10 seconds than into 3 minutes. On a
> good day, creating the 
> 10 seconds can resemble writing a haiku or drawing a
> zen calligraphy. On a 
> bad day, the diary entry will consist of some
> mediocre idea. (oh yes, I had 
> some of these.)
> 
> And also ... 366 days of 10 seconds make about one
> hour of music at the end 
> of the year. One CD, that is. (Of course, listening
> to an hour of musical 
> and sound fragments is not for everyone.)
> 
> Several musicians have taken up this idea and are
> working on their own MY2K 
> project. There is even a mailing list.
> 
> I've set up a webpage today (see URL below) to
> publish my own musical diary 
> (23 entries so far). You can click a calendar and
> listen to the sound of 
> the day. Have fun, and let me know what you think.
> 
> 
> *	Michael Peters:		mpeters@csi.com
> *	escape veloopity:		electronic guitar loop music
> *	hop - fractals in motion: 	strange attractors
> *	http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb
> 
> 
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"I guess the postman always works alone". :-)  kim


i really think the saying is the postman always knocks twice........
now that i think about it, mailman do generally work alone.

your sometimes friendly, often disgruntled, and always sarcastic postman.
postaldave@qx.net


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At 22:00 +0100 1/23/00, Michael Peters wrote:
>I've set up a webpage today (see URL below) to publish my own musical diary
>(23 entries so far). You can click a calendar and listen to the sound of
>the day. Have fun, and let me know what you think.

Very cool, Michael.

I might attempt a variation of this.  I'm often travelling without 
music-making tools (well, the PowerBook has a built-in mic, but...) 
To me the 10-second limit seems a bit artificial (though I recognize 
the power of the idea that limitations, like deadlines, have a way of 
channeling creativity).  Some days I might create a 45 second piece, 
others a 3 second loop, and I might also be away from home for a week.

So my variation would be to simply upload sounds and compositional 
fragments on a semi-regular basis ...

It would be very cool if a number of people were doing this, with 
their sites linked together, and with some kind of agreement for 
using others' pieces in one's own work (though just asking might 
suffice!).  Or have I just re-invented Rocket Networks?  Or open 
source music?  (I talked to the guy who owns the openmusic.org domain 
name once, and that was his vision for its use.)

Doug


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In a message dated 1/23/00 2:54:56 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, 
j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes:

<<  Excellent work overall! >>

i couldnt have said it better.............michael

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Last year's NAMM hang was fun ... anyone wanna do it again this year?

(apologies if it's been discussed and I've missed it due to skimming 
the list very lightly based on subject headers)

Doug

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At 3:15 PM -0800 1/23/00, Doug Wyatt wrote:
>Last year's NAMM hang was fun ... anyone wanna do it again this year?
>

yeah, I'm up for it!  How about we pick a time and place to meet, and do it
again?

I'll be at the show from fri-sun. Probably Saturday is the most likely day
for people to be there, although also the most crowded day for finding a
good place to hang out. Maybe we say Saturday afternoon at 2:00, a little
bit after the lunch crush?

what's a good meeting place where we'll all be likely to find each other?

kim

______________________________________________________________________
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>Haven't we seen this before?

Maybe it's a loop????;)

Pete.

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Hi all,
I'll be looping in Chapter Arts' Centre, Cardiff, Wales on Wednesday.
Its sort of ambient world music using my trusty Zoom 8080, electric guitar,
ebow and live signal processing using AudioMulch software on a PC. I managed
to get hold of an old monitor that I don't mind chucking in the back of the
car and sctratching, (can't afford a laptop).
Anyway there will be other, mostly experimental stuff, jazz, usually some
movement etc

still haven't tried that new Zoom GFX8. Funny how I was quite happy with my
8080 untill they brought out a newer model!

Gareth

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Dear mr Elliot
this message was sent to the loopers delight forum at which you probably
are subscribed without knowing it...

Its cool that you're with us thought as everybody here waits for the
Echoplex to be in the shops again soon 

thanks for your care

offtoppic
Claude


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> Claude
> I think this was meant for Roland not us
> cheers
> Phil
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> From: Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch>
> To: Loopers-Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:33 PM
> Subject: any octapad pad-8 user that could help
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> > Salut
> >
> > I just got myself an used Roland octapad Pad-8
> > No manual
> >
> > I'd be glad if one of you would in one line describe what the parameters
> > are and how to save them in the 4 banks
> > what parameters are global
> >
> > the strict minimum to program it
> >
> > thank you verymuch
> >
> > Claude
> >
> >

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Claude
I think this was meant for Roland not us
cheers
Phil
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> Salut
> 
> I just got myself an used Roland octapad Pad-8
> No manual
> 
> I'd be glad if one of you would in one line describe what the parameters
> are and how to save them in the 4 banks
> what parameters are global 
> 
> the strict minimum to program it
> 
> thank you verymuch
> 
> Claude
> 
> 

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I recommend looking up roland details on a search engine as we ahve nothing
to do with Roland products or distribution.
regards
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> Salut
>
> I just got myself an used Roland octapad Pad-8
> No manual
>
> I'd be glad if one of you would in one line describe what the parameters
> are and how to save them in the 4 banks
> what parameters are global
>
> the strict minimum to program it
>
> thank you verymuch
>
> Claude
>
>

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How about the Stick Booth?

Colin | niloC
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>At 3:15 PM -0800 1/23/00, Doug Wyatt wrote:
>>Last year's NAMM hang was fun ... anyone wanna do it again this year?
>>
>
>yeah, I'm up for it!  How about we pick a time and place to meet, and do it
>again?
>
>I'll be at the show from fri-sun. Probably Saturday is the most likely day
>for people to be there, although also the most crowded day for finding a
>good place to hang out. Maybe we say Saturday afternoon at 2:00, a little
>bit after the lunch crush?
>
>what's a good meeting place where we'll all be likely to find each other?
>
>kim
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Claude-

I don't know if they will ever make an Echoplex, but
you certainly have them looping! ;-)

John


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    Haven't we seen this before?

--- Pete Mundt <manx72@voyager.net> wrote:
> >Haven't we seen this before?
> 
> Maybe it's a loop????;)
> 
> Pete.
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>Dennis, saw the site. Can I do realtime looping with Kyma? And can you give
>me a price estimate?

The quick answers (opinions not included):
Yes, you can do realtime looping with Kyma.
$3,300 for a basic unit (4 analog inputs/outputs, 4 digital inputs/outputs, 4
DSPs, one interface)

The longer answers (opinions included):
For me, the great appeal of the Kyma is its flexibility.  You can pretty much do
ANYTHING with it.  You construct "Sounds" out of prototype modules supplied by
Symbolic Sounds and others.  The Sounds do things like DelayWithFeedback,
filtering, mixing, etc.  The trade-off is that it does very little (especially
regarding looping) out of the box.  You have to do quite a bit of set-up.  Now
Symbolic Sound gives a lot of examples that you can plagerize.  One of the
examples is a "tap-tempo" and it works quite well.  You tap a MIDI key to begin
the loop and tap a second key to close the loop.  Unfortunately, you can't
"overdub" more sound into the loop that is produced.  At least with the example
given.  You can loop more sound by creating more "tap-tempo" Sounds but that's
not the same as overdubbing.

In the words of the Rev. Kim Flint: "At the minimum, a Real-Time Looper must be
able to sample audio and loop it on the fly, and allow the user to sample new
material while the current loop is playing. Usually they do much more."

Amen.

What I dream of doing is creating a "Looper" prototype sound for Kyma.  I want
the Looper to use the same basic interface of an EDP, i.e., buttons for RECORD,
OVERDUB, MULTIPLY, INSERT, MUTE, UNDO, and NEXTLOOP.  Personally, I think the
EDP's interface is fantastic.  It's so easy to improvise with it.

I'm finding that Kyma has quite a steep learning curve so my project might take
awhile.

Dennis Leas
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check ebay for the many multi effects ped i see there all the time


boss gt 5
boss gt3

korg ax 30g

korg ax 300g

digitech

etc


pece, g luck!

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I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.  
They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long 
great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal dave's 
comment was funny.  Om and Out


>From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
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>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800
>
> >"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
> >
> >
> >and you call yourself a looper.lol
> >
> >your friendly postman.
>
>I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
>loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
>this list.
>
>I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
>
>kim
>
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I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.  
They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long 
great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal dave's 
comment was funny.  Om and Out


>From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
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>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800
>
> >"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
> >
> >
> >and you call yourself a looper.lol
> >
> >your friendly postman.
>
>I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
>loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
>this list.
>
>I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
>
>kim
>
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I guess the postman always loops once...

sorry, couldn't resist.

- Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Sunday, January 23, 2000 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: hi all


>>"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
>>
>>
>>and you call yourself a looper.lol
>>
>>your friendly postman.
>
>I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
>loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
>this list.
>
>I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
>
>kim
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
>kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
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>
>
>

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In a message dated 1/24/00 9:21:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, dennis@mdbs.com 
writes:

<< >Dennis, saw the site. Can I do realtime looping with Kyma? And can you 
give
 >me a price estimate?
 
 The quick answers (opinions not included):
 Yes, you can do realtime looping with Kyma.
 $3,300 for a basic unit (4 analog inputs/outputs, 4 digital inputs/outputs, 4
 DSPs, one interface)
  >>
Is there a www link to Kyma ?  (been away awhile here)
Carl Snow
Moss Hill REC>

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If you folks are referring to a place where the LD list meets?  Ummmm...The
Trace Elliot booth?

later,

rich



At 04:05 PM 1/23/00 -0800, you wrote:
>At 3:15 PM -0800 1/23/00, Doug Wyatt wrote:
>>Last year's NAMM hang was fun ... anyone wanna do it again this year?
>>
>
>yeah, I'm up for it!  How about we pick a time and place to meet, and do it
>again?
>
>I'll be at the show from fri-sun. Probably Saturday is the most likely day
>for people to be there, although also the most crowded day for finding a
>good place to hang out. Maybe we say Saturday afternoon at 2:00, a little
>bit after the lunch crush?
>
>what's a good meeting place where we'll all be likely to find each other?
>
>kim
>
>______________________________________________________________________
>Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
>kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
>http://www.annihilist.com/  | 
>
>
>

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Hi there!

I live in Los Angeles myself and would be interestd in getting together and
exchanging some creative juices- I love jazz and have a taste that ranges
through the spectrum pretty well- I am on the West side- near Venice Blvd
and the 405 freeway- give me a call if you like- and welcome to L.A.!

Clifford Novey
310-397-7590

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:32 PM
Subject: hi all


> Hi all,
> I hope this kind of behaviour is tolerated
> on this list.My apologies if not.
>
> I'm a musician with years of jazz
> performing experience and in the last year
> I have started programming with MAX/MSP.
> I have also just moved to LA and I am
> looking to meet up with people to work with
> on experimental,techno,whatever you like to call
> it projects,gigs, however it's done.
>
> Drop me a line at andrew@kaleidacousticon.com
>
> A big thank you also to one and all for
> an entertainingly useful read.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Andrew.
>

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Has anyone had the chance to play with an Akai S1000?

Marketing blurb:
"The S1000 is a proven top-of-the-class 16 bit digital sampler. It has
become the professional's
choice due to its studio quality 16 bit sound, intelligent design, large
easy to view screen
display, and ease of operation. The S1000 is capable of recording up to 190
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expansion
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sion options include a digital interface and an SCSI interface for
connecting up to hard disks, CD ROMs, or a large capacity magneto optical
disk drive. *16 bit linear sampling, 44.1 kHz/22.05kHz sampling frequency
20Hz 20kHz "



Sounds like a mad machine, but I wonder if it's usefull real-time or
just in the studio.. Any comments?



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Anybody know what kind of cable should be used for the DL4's expression
pedal??  (or any of the Line6 pedals for that matter)  Standard instrument
cable??  Stereo cable??  Something else??  Thanks.

Mike


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At 8:01 AM -0800 1/24/00, Rich wrote:
>If you folks are referring to a place where the LD list meets?  Ummmm...The
>Trace Elliot booth?

Since they are a division of Gibson, they will just be somewhere in the
Gibson room. In the past few years, Gibson has closed their demo room to
everybody except their dealers, distributors, and vip's. If it's not
closed, it would be really crowded and tough to find people you've never
seen before. So we should probably pick some other spot....

kim

______________________________________________________________________
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kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
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>Is there a www link to Kyma ?  (been away awhile here)
>Carl Snow
>Moss Hill REC>

 http://www.SymbolicSound.com 

Dennis Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com


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Kim,

In a message dated 01/24/00 9:39:05 AM, kflint@annihilist.com writes:

>So we should probably pick some other spot....

Providing the weather is nice, how bout the plaza outside the main 
entrance...a nice neutral spot. From there we could go anyhere and grab a cup 
of joe or whatever.

TK

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I have a 1 month old Akai Headrush for sale, used twice and in perfect
condition for $125 plus shipping.

Gary Weideman
630-979-4957

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I have a (drummer) friend with one. Unfortunately it's not very
useful as a real-time device. Good all-purpose sampler though...

- Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Melms <wgold@mecasw.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:57 PM
Subject: Akai S1000


>Has anyone had the chance to play with an Akai S1000?
>
>Marketing blurb:
>"The S1000 is a proven top-of-the-class 16 bit digital sampler. It has
>become the professional's
>choice due to its studio quality 16 bit sound, intelligent design, large
>easy to view screen
>display, and ease of operation. The S1000 is capable of recording up to 190
>seconds of stereo
>sampling time (at 44.1 kHz sampling rate) by adding the optional 32
Megabyte
>expansion
>RAM. It also offers some of the most advanced editing capabilities
available
>including time
>compression/ expansion, sample merge and crossfad ing, autolooping and much
>more. Expan
>sion options include a digital interface and an SCSI interface for
>connecting up to hard disks, CD ROMs, or a large capacity magneto optical
>disk drive. *16 bit linear sampling, 44.1 kHz/22.05kHz sampling frequency
>20Hz 20kHz "
>
>
>
>Sounds like a mad machine, but I wonder if it's usefull real-time or
>just in the studio.. Any comments?
>
>
>
>

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Oops, that was meant to be private- sorry-

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:04 AM
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>Hi there!
>
>I live in Los Angeles myself and would be interestd in getting together and
>exchanging some creative juices- I love jazz and have a taste that ranges
>through the spectrum pretty well- I am on the West side- near Venice Blvd
>and the 405 freeway- give me a call if you like- and welcome to L.A.!
>
>Clifford Novey
>310-397-7590
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Pask" <andrew@kaleidacousticon.com>
>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:32 PM
>Subject: hi all
>
>
>> Hi all,
>> I hope this kind of behaviour is tolerated
>> on this list.My apologies if not.
>>
>> I'm a musician with years of jazz
>> performing experience and in the last year
>> I have started programming with MAX/MSP.
>> I have also just moved to LA and I am
>> looking to meet up with people to work with
>> on experimental,techno,whatever you like to call
>> it projects,gigs, however it's done.
>>
>> Drop me a line at andrew@kaleidacousticon.com
>>
>> A big thank you also to one and all for
>> an entertainingly useful read.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Andrew.
>>
>

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Kim,

Actually, I was just joking, given the excitement over the Trace 'plex...

If you folks are meeting somewhere, let me know.  What days is the show
actually happening?

rich



At 09:18 AM 1/24/00 -0800, you wrote:
>At 8:01 AM -0800 1/24/00, Rich wrote:
>>If you folks are referring to a place where the LD list meets?  Ummmm...The
>>Trace Elliot booth?
>
>Since they are a division of Gibson, they will just be somewhere in the
>Gibson room. In the past few years, Gibson has closed their demo room to
>everybody except their dealers, distributors, and vip's. If it's not
>closed, it would be really crowded and tough to find people you've never
>seen before. So we should probably pick some other spot....
>
>kim
>
>______________________________________________________________________
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For any loopers who'll be at NAMM, swing on by the Line 6 booth (4021),
as I'd love to meet the folks from the list. I'll be the big guy in the
porkpie hat. Friday and Saturday, we'll also have Reeves Gabrels, Paul
Ill, Danny Saber, and Blake Douglas performing together in the booth.

George

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>From ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=243747102


TH

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So I guess you don't want to exchange 'creative juices'
with everyone on the list eh? hehehe

-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford@BienAppraisers <bienappraisers@mindspring.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 2:39 PM
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>Oops, that was meant to be private- sorry-
>
>Cliff
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:04 AM
>Subject: Re: hi all
>
>
>>Hi there!
>>
>>I live in Los Angeles myself and would be interestd in getting together
and
>>exchanging some creative juices- I love jazz and have a taste that ranges
>>through the spectrum pretty well- I am on the West side- near Venice Blvd
>>and the 405 freeway- give me a call if you like- and welcome to L.A.!
>>
>>Clifford Novey
>>310-397-7590
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Andrew Pask" <andrew@kaleidacousticon.com>
>>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 11:32 PM
>>Subject: hi all
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I hope this kind of behaviour is tolerated
>>> on this list.My apologies if not.
>>>
>>> I'm a musician with years of jazz
>>> performing experience and in the last year
>>> I have started programming with MAX/MSP.
>>> I have also just moved to LA and I am
>>> looking to meet up with people to work with
>>> on experimental,techno,whatever you like to call
>>> it projects,gigs, however it's done.
>>>
>>> Drop me a line at andrew@kaleidacousticon.com
>>>
>>> A big thank you also to one and all for
>>> an entertainingly useful read.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew.
>>>
>>
>
>

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Quite rare:


Dealer Ad: Electro Harmonix 16 Second Delay

Asking Price: US$N/A
Condition: Excellent
Age: N/A
Description:

       Electro Harmonix 16 Second Delay w/ original box some scratches on
the top but still in excellent condition . These are fairly rare and we're
looking for $600
       or best serious offer. Jpegs available , 24 hour approval, prepay
with Visa, MC, Discover, sorry no C.O.D.'s. Thanks

Seller: Joe Chiappone, 716-586-4662
E-mail: nguitars@aol.com (Profile)
Location: PITTSFORD, NY
Post Date: 1/24/2000




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In a message dated 1/24/00 8:54:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com writes:

<< "Ever hear the one about the jazz musician who was only in it
 for the money?"   Andrew >>

Or, my personal fave:

Q:  How do you end up with a million dollars as a jazz musician?

A:  Start with two million

Ken R

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or  . . . 

jazz musician wins the lottery.

what are you going to do now?

practice til it runs out.


stig

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In a message dated 1/24/00 8:54:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com writes:

<< "Ever hear the one about the jazz musician who was only in it
 for the money?"   Andrew >>

Or, my personal fave:

Q:  How do you end up with a million dollars as a jazz musician?

A:  Start with two million

Ken R

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>Quite rare:
>
>
>Dealer Ad: Electro Harmonix 16 Second Delay
>
>Asking Price: US$N/A
>Condition: Excellent
>Age: N/A
>Description:
>
>       Electro Harmonix 16 Second Delay w/ original box some scratches on
>the top but still in excellent condition . These are fairly rare and we're
>looking for $600
>       or best serious offer. Jpegs available , 24 hour approval, prepay
>with Visa, MC, Discover, sorry no C.O.D.'s. Thanks
>
>Seller: Joe Chiappone, 716-586-4662
>E-mail: nguitars@aol.com (Profile)
>Location: PITTSFORD, NY
>Post Date: 1/24/2000

Hello. Has this sold? I would love to buy it but canot do so until a monyth
or two has past.Im in a band calld COIL.Is there any chance e can do some
sort of deal? Please let mek know.

beest wisheS
JOHn BALANCE
JOHN@LOCI.DEMON .CO.UK


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hi there
 I Have 3 akai headrushes for sale at £80.00 each, a line 6 dl4 delay for
£180.00, a line 6 pod for £240.00, an ebow for £50.00 and a Roland G1-10
with GK2A Pick up for £200.00. I would prefer to post to someone in the
British isles as i dont know how to go about sending gear abroad. ( sorry
worldwide cousins ). all are great machines in perfect condition.
Please email me direct at renaldo@renaldo.freeserve.co.uk
cheers
renaldo

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Phaedebk@aol.com wrote:

> Robert,
>
>     Totally matters upon what you are trying to do with the Loopers in
> question...  Really liked what Gary Lucas (of Capt. Beefheart) did with
> several tape echoplexi, wherein he would create a drone or three on one, some
> form of rhythmic effect on the second and then a chord progression on the
> third, or would give a second rhythm or drone.  Then again, he was typically
> doing this as a one man band, and he was using a rather extensive set of
> switch boxes, roughly 5 if my memory serves, along with a pair of volume
> pedals, a distortion pedal, and then there was a small rack which he would
> fiddle with from time to time...

Wow. *That's* a nice setup. Like a band of players. Must be terrible to move
though, all these cables... I was thinking of maybe using a SwitchBlade (if that's
the name), a device that allows one to patch stuff together in a programmable
fashion. I see now how easy it is to *need* several loopers. Couple of drones,
etc.

>
>     This is what really got me hooked on Looping devices, along with seeing
> Andy Summers playing a Roland GR-707 and ridiculous effects by himself on
> stage...

I can easily believe that.

>
>
>     Been using a Boomerang and a Zoom 2100 with Expression pedal and been
> really happy thus far, though I'd honestly like to give a DL-4 and/or the
> Echoplex a shot with my current setup.

I just ordered the MPX-G2 with a 20 secs simple JamMan. As an alternative
I can use the dual delay, which gives me 2 independent 10 second mono delays.
Both the JamMan and mono delays in tge G2 have awsome sound quality.
When the DL-4 audio spec is okay, I might add a DL-4, but I can't get my hands
on that spec. :-(

Thanks for the info. Very inspiring.

Robert

>
>
>     Tchus,
>
>         Lee-ohki.
>
> PS.  On a different note, you may want to check out the sound track for
> "Serial Experiments Lain (Cyberia Mix)"  Released by Pioneer Stereo PICA 1179
>  (ISBN: 4-988102170127)  Really good music (mostly techno, but all in all a
> great disc.
>
>         L.



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Allan Hoeltje wrote:

> jsd wrote:
> .ok  a guess..plays the upright harp or maybe the ChapmanStick...

>
> Least anyone here get the wrong impression, Chapman Stick can not be played, at least not very well, with long fingernails.  I play a Stick and find that I need to trim my nails (both hands) two or three times a week to keep them as short as possible.  Otherwise they would just clink

> on the fret board or get caught on a string and break.
>
> My guess is that in order to get the going price of $3,000 for an EDP on Ebay the owner had to
> hire a PR firm and a female model.
>
> :-)

J writes
hmmmm, an echo-plex model?  that could be real scary if she had the same features as the Plex...I think the multiply part would be the scariest for me....on the other hand,______ ;-}__

(one quick? ,,I've never had the opportunity to put my hands on the Chapman Stick..would like to...so the idea is to touch the strings rather than dig In ---as with a pick?)



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Heh.

I just got off the phone with the guy and it *is* sold and he *did* sell
it for $600.

He told me he could have sold "dozens of them" given the number of calls
he had and our good friend Pedalman even offered him $700 for it but he
stuck to his original offer and original sale (how often does that
happen on the net?). What's cuter is a friend of mine (Quite an educated
buyer/trader btw) just bought the prototype Pedalman was selling in NYC. 

For $1400.00.

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ILOOPALONE

----------
>From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>Subject: Re: hi all
>Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2000, 6:41 AM
>

> I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.
> They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long
> great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal dave's
> comment was funny.  Om and Out
>
>
>>From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
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>>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800
>>
>> >"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
>> >
>> >
>> >and you call yourself a looper.lol
>> >
>> >your friendly postman.
>>
>>I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
>>loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
>>this list.
>>
>>I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
>>
>>kim
>>
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Hi Loopers,

Regarding the 'loop alone' subject, I have found that it is difficult for
non-loopers to understand the concept of looping at first.  Once they get
it, you're ok, if they are competent players.  For example, i have been
trying to get some drummers to wear a earpiece that gets a click feed from
me (the looper).  I have my JamMan hooked into a Boss DR-770 (set to a
click pattern).  Once I close my loop, the click starts in sync with the
loop.  Once i shut off my loop, the click stops and we are back into normal
play.  I have yet to accomplish this 100%, but i am almost there with my
current band.  The problem usually is in the drummer's attitude.  I am
essentially telling him that he is the tempo keeper, until we hit a section
where a loop is, and then he has to follow the click.  When that section
ends, he is the tempo keeper again.  Asking drummers (especially amateur or
semi-pro) to follow a click is a tall order!  Like you're insulting their
playing or something...But to the audience, it would be seamless.

rich


At 03:06 PM 1/24/00 -0800, you wrote:
>ILOOPALONE
>
>----------
>>From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>Subject: Re: hi all
>>Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2000, 6:41 AM
>>
>
>> I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.
>> They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long
>> great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal
dave's
>> comment was funny.  Om and Out
>>
>>
>>>From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
>>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>>Subject: Re: hi all
>>>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800
>>>
>>> >"looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >and you call yourself a looper.lol
>>> >
>>> >your friendly postman.
>>>
>>>I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
>>>loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
>>>this list.
>>>
>>>I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
>>>
>>>kim
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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"Least anyone here get the wrong impression, Chapman Stick can not be
played, at least not very well, with long fingernails."

Great now you upset the Chapstick players. way to go. don't you people have
anything better to do.lol

your friendly postman



-----Original Message-----
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>Allan Hoeltje wrote:
>
>> jsd wrote:
>> .ok  a guess..plays the upright harp or maybe the ChapmanStick...
>
>>
>> Least anyone here get the wrong impression, Chapman Stick can not be
played, at least not very well, with long fingernails.  I play a Stick and
find that I need to trim my nails (both hands) two or three times a week to
keep them as short as possible.  Otherwise they would just clink
>
>> on the fret board or get caught on a string and break.
>>
>> My guess is that in order to get the going price of $3,000 for an EDP on
Ebay the owner had to
>> hire a PR firm and a female model.
>>
>> :-)
>
>J writes
>hmmmm, an echo-plex model?  that could be real scary if she had the same
features as the Plex...I think the multiply part would be the scariest for
me....on the other hand,______ ;-}__
>
>(one quick? ,,I've never had the opportunity to put my hands on the Chapman
Stick..would like to...so the idea is to touch the strings rather than dig
In ---as with a pick?)
>
>
>
>

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>     This is what really got me hooked on Looping devices, along with
seeing Andy Summers playing a Roland GR-707 and ridiculous effects by
himself on stage...

Did Andy ever put any solo looping stuff on CD?


----- Original Message -----
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> Phaedebk@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Robert,
> >
> >     Totally matters upon what you are trying to do with the Loopers in
> > question...  Really liked what Gary Lucas (of Capt. Beefheart) did with
> > several tape echoplexi, wherein he would create a drone or three on one,
some
> > form of rhythmic effect on the second and then a chord progression on
the
> > third, or would give a second rhythm or drone.  Then again, he was
typically
> > doing this as a one man band, and he was using a rather extensive set of
> > switch boxes, roughly 5 if my memory serves, along with a pair of volume
> > pedals, a distortion pedal, and then there was a small rack which he
would
> > fiddle with from time to time...
>
> Wow. *That's* a nice setup. Like a band of players. Must be terrible to
move
> though, all these cables... I was thinking of maybe using a SwitchBlade
(if that's
> the name), a device that allows one to patch stuff together in a
programmable
> fashion. I see now how easy it is to *need* several loopers. Couple of
drones,
> etc.
>
> >
> >     This is what really got me hooked on Looping devices, along with
seeing
> > Andy Summers playing a Roland GR-707 and ridiculous effects by himself
on
> > stage...
>
> I can easily believe that.
>
> >
> >
> >     Been using a Boomerang and a Zoom 2100 with Expression pedal and
been
> > really happy thus far, though I'd honestly like to give a DL-4 and/or
the
> > Echoplex a shot with my current setup.
>
> I just ordered the MPX-G2 with a 20 secs simple JamMan. As an alternative
> I can use the dual delay, which gives me 2 independent 10 second mono
delays.
> Both the JamMan and mono delays in tge G2 have awsome sound quality.
> When the DL-4 audio spec is okay, I might add a DL-4, but I can't get my
hands
> on that spec. :-(
>
> Thanks for the info. Very inspiring.
>
> Robert
>
> >
> >
> >     Tchus,
> >
> >         Lee-ohki.
> >
> > PS.  On a different note, you may want to check out the sound track for
> > "Serial Experiments Lain (Cyberia Mix)"  Released by Pioneer Stereo PICA
1179
> >  (ISBN: 4-988102170127)  Really good music (mostly techno, but all in
all a
> > great disc.
> >
> >         L.
>
>
>

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Oh wow, drummers have been paranoid about
clicks and drum machines since the ark.


"A drummer is someone who thinks that
time is only a magazine"

Anon.

> From: Rich <rich@nuvision.com>
> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
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> 
> Hi Loopers,
> 
> Regarding the 'loop alone' subject, I have found that it is difficult for
> non-loopers to understand the concept of looping at first.  Once they get
> it, you're ok, if they are competent players.  For example, i have been
> trying to get some drummers to wear a earpiece that gets a click feed from
> me (the looper).  I have my JamMan hooked into a Boss DR-770 (set to a
> click pattern).  Once I close my loop, the click starts in sync with the
> loop.  Once i shut off my loop, the click stops and we are back into normal
> play.  I have yet to accomplish this 100%, but i am almost there with my
> current band.  The problem usually is in the drummer's attitude.  I am
> essentially telling him that he is the tempo keeper, until we hit a section
> where a loop is, and then he has to follow the click.  When that section
> ends, he is the tempo keeper again.  Asking drummers (especially amateur or
> semi-pro) to follow a click is a tall order!  Like you're insulting their
> playing or something...But to the audience, it would be seamless.
> 
> rich
> 
> 
> At 03:06 PM 1/24/00 -0800, you wrote:
>> ILOOPALONE
>> 
>> ----------
>>> From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
>>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>> Subject: Re: hi all
>>> Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2000, 6:41 AM
>>> 
>> 
>>> I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.
>>> They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long
>>> great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal
> dave's
>>> comment was funny.  Om and Out
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>>> Subject: Re: hi all
>>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800
>>>> 
>>>>> "looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> and you call yourself a looper.lol
>>>>> 
>>>>> your friendly postman.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
>>>> loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
>>>> this list.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
>>>> 
>>>> kim
>>>> 
>>>> ______________________________________________________________________
>>>> Kim Flint                   | Looper's Delight
>>>> kflint@annihilist.com       | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html
>>>> http://www.annihilist.com/  |
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.
>They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long
>great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal dave's
>comment was funny.  Om and Out
>
>

 I loop alone and in a duo.....

 CHeck us out at http://www.fingerpaint.net

Patrick

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I generally find that when several people are playing at once, the less
overt looping I do, but that my loop-enthusiasm is contagious, resulting in
at least a few people I've jammed with exploring looping for themselves.
(You know who you are, lurkmonsters; Saturday?)

I've done most of my looping lately with just a drummer, but we like to jam
with "special guests" as often as possible to keep those infamous "creative
juices" flowing. I agree with Mr. Potter about how it's much more fun to
play with people who "get it" loopwise, but while I enjoy solo looping
(both to do and as a listener), I still prefer playing with one or two
other people, whether or not they're looping.

I also thought postaldave's comment was funny, but then again, I was here
for the "ornery, anti-social loopers" thread a few months back to which he
was alluding. Someone new to the list might not have gotten the joke, so I
think Kim was correct in his reply.

Tim

At 06:41 AM 1/24/00 PST, you wrote:
>I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.  
>They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long 
>great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal dave's 
>comment was funny.  Om and Out

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I have the same problem.  The better I get at looping, the less I want to
play chords and riffs and other traditional guitar stuff.  For some reason,
this approach seems to annoy many musicians...   wonder why.


Peter

----- Original Message -----
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> >I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart
people.
> >They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a
long
> >great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal
dave's
> >comment was funny.  Om and Out
> >
> >
>
>  I loop alone and in a duo.....
>
>  CHeck us out at http://www.fingerpaint.net
>
> Patrick
>

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Right now, I loop alone, but that's mostly because I don't personally know 
very many similar-minded musicians here (in San Francisco); even though this 
is supposed to be some sort of experimental music capital, most of the local 
musicians I've met either make grating cacphonous noise, are really into the 
goth scene, or have no idea what experimental music is, and the only local 
guy I've worked with is 40 miles north, and I don't have a car, so as you 
can see, it's more of a situation thing than a choice, but I'd love to meet 
other musicians locally, and don't worry because I don't always talk in 
run-on sentences,

but sincerely,

and Matt Davignon.


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postaldave wrote:

> Great now you upset the Chapstick players. way to go. don't you people have
> anything better to do.lol
>
> your friendly postman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jsd <groundfloor@hcis.net>
>
> Subject: Re:Fingernails part 2 and new EDP
> >
> >> jsd wrote:
> >> .ok  the ChapmanStick...
> >
> >>>Allan Hoeltje wrote:
> >> Chapman Stick can not be
> played, at least not very well, with long fingernails.  I play a Stick and
> find that I need to trim my nails (both hands) two or three times a week to
> keep them as short as possible.  Otherwise they would just clink on the fret
> board or get caught on a string and break.
> >>
> >> My guess is that in order to get the going price of $3,000 for an EDP on
> Ebay the owner had to
> >> hire a PR firm and a female model.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >
> >J writes
> >hmmmm, an echo-plex model?  that could be real scary if she had the same
> features as the Plex...I

Hey PD,,yoo,hooo....I'm cleaning my 9 MM trying to figure ouy how it goes into
auto-looping mode_______j________;-0 tee,hee

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If your not annoying someone,   Where's the fun???


>I have the same problem.  The better I get at looping, the less I want to
>play chords and riffs and other traditional guitar stuff.  For some reason,
>this approach seems to annoy many musicians...   wonder why.
>
>
>Peter
>


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are you still selling it?
I'm interested.
Have a couple questions though

-brent
Broman@niu.edu

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Subject: Akai Headrush For Sale


>I have a 1 month old Akai Headrush for sale, used twice and in perfect
>condition for $125 plus shipping.
>
>Gary Weideman
>630-979-4957
>

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That's what I always say.

  | -----Original Message-----
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  | 
  | If your not annoying someone,   Where's the fun???

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Hi.

Last week I bought YAMAHA SU700  after reading you can have max 20 songs in
memory (I have 68MbRAM) with it and then mix them
and do a kind of deejaying playing them mixed up without interruptions.

well. For what I have read in the unit's manual you can't do that.
you cannot change the song while in play mode! so you have to stop the
music, change the song and then hit playback button again!

is this true?
do you know (if you can't help me) who can answer this to me?
people at the music store had no idea...

Thanks in advance.

Sam


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For NAMM goers interested in Kyma, I received this announcement:

-------------------------------------
Kyma at NAMM
Symbolic Sound's Kurt Hebel and Carla Scaletti will be at the NAMM show in Los
Angeles (3-6 Feb 2000) helping out at the Motor Mix booth by demonstrating how
closely Kyma.5 works with their motorized faders and LCD labels. The company
that makes the Motor Mix is called Sentech and the booth number is W-1805, so if
you were planning to be at the NAMM show this year, please stop by to say hello
and see what's new in Kyma. (Sorry but unlike the AES show where we have our own
booth, we do not have tickets for the NAMM show. Word has it that you can
request passes from your local music dealer or from an exhibiting manufacturer,
so that might be worth a try).
-------------------------------------

I won't be at NAMM but give my best to all the looper folks (listers and makers
alike).

Dennis Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com


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I didn't realize this was now a Trace Elliot list!  When did they take over?  
Look away for a moment and ....

hawkeye

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Thanks for the update.  Still a good idea.

    hawkeye

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Yes I still have it, let me know

Gary

> ----------
> From: 	Brent[SMTP:broman@niu.edu]
> Sent: 	Tuesday, January 25, 2000 2:02 AM
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> 
> are you still selling it?
> I'm interested.
> Have a couple questions though
> 
> -brent
> Broman@niu.edu
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weideman, Gary L (Gary) <weideman@lucent.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
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> 
> 
> >I have a 1 month old Akai Headrush for sale, used twice and in perfect
> >condition for $125 plus shipping.
> >
> >Gary Weideman
> >630-979-4957
> >
> 

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hey all,

i'm a few weeks away from moving across the country, from new york city to 
san francisco.  i'd be real interested in meeting up with other loopers for 
some collaborations.  there's a good chance i'll have access to 
rehersal/soundmaking space there.

also, i'd appreciate hearing about anyone's experience who's made a similar 
move (private email would probably be better for this).  i know the nyc to 
sf thing was a topic here a while ago here, but i didn't really see myself 
doing it, until now.

matt



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>RIRES>
they met the newbie specs with honnors

Claude

PS: I had the time to find out what I was searching about the octapad

so thanks to all... 



Hawkeye255@aol.com wrote:
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> I didn't realize this was now a Trace Elliot list!  When did they take over?
> Look away for a moment and ....
> 
> hawkeye

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Hi, first of all, I'm new to the list, so short introduction:  I'm a
unrequitted loopaholic ("Hi, Dusty"); being a synthesist, I also play 
with sequencers a lot; mostly lurk...

Now for my question:  I recently purchased an Eventide GTR4000, and 
was looking at emulating some Vortex algorithms on it, as it seems 
to be an extremely flexible piece of gear.  I was wondering if anyone 
has already tried this (and would be willing to share?)?  If not, 
favorite algorithms to try first (no, I've never played with a 
Vortex).
-- 
I remain,
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Hello,

	mp3.com just posted a new live mp3 called Themes (live)at

http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/8/guitarist_denis_taaffe.html

. It was recorded at a solo electric guitar show I did recently.
.The main guitar is miked and the looping guitars are line out 
feed from a mixer to the vs. Let me know what you think
if you would? 

  Thanks
Denis

Denis Taaffe
denis_aliengtr@geocities.com
http://www.dtguitar.com

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hi
do any of you good people know the name of the fripp and eno (or just eno)
track that was used as the theme music for the british t.v. program   Arena
and what album it is from?
thanks
renaldo


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Standard instrument cable.

George

X-ray wrote:
> 
> Anybody know what kind of cable should be used for the DL4's expression
> pedal??  (or any of the Line6 pedals for that matter)  Standard instrument
> cable??  Stereo cable??  Something else??  Thanks.
> 
> Mike

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Hey there.... Yeah I have some simlar problems... I have had only had it for 
about 2 months, but I have got some of them to work out.  But the problem 
you said about it i think sticks.... I'll still ask some else for you about 
it..... It happened to me last night actually... i was effect the audio 
in... and i had two loops on top if it... and then I wanted to record that 
into another loop.... the effect was cut off as soon as I set up the 
recording parameters, and you can't record a loop while looping others.... I 
think... still as i said i have some problems to figure out aswell.... i got 
a friend who's got one and tinkers with it, he's got other stuff he 
prefers..... but i will ask him and see what the limits are on your 
question....  i know the Su700 is a composing loop machine... so that on the 
fly effects might interfer with recording at times... but you can always go 
back to the recorded loop and then reeffect it to get the sound that you 
wanted... I am pretty sure that it can only record in normal uneffected 
parameters...... My question to you is where did you get the extra memory 
component for it... the place i got from sent to some random computer store 
and I haven't gotten around to it... what did it cost you to upgrade.... i 
really need to get it cause I run out of memory and am stuck with saving and 
fliping settings... its a pain in the ass... but I do like the machine... 
i'll forward you email to my friend... write me back and let me know how it 
goes....


>From: "scb" <samu@gi.intercom.es>
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>
>Hi.
>
>Last week I bought YAMAHA SU700  after reading you can have max 20 songs in
>memory (I have 68MbRAM) with it and then mix them
>and do a kind of deejaying playing them mixed up without interruptions.
>
>well. For what I have read in the unit's manual you can't do that.
>you cannot change the song while in play mode! so you have to stop the
>music, change the song and then hit playback button again!
>
>is this true?
>do you know (if you can't help me) who can answer this to me?
>people at the music store had no idea...
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Sam
>
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whoa! ... as a drummer i take that personally!
hehehe :-)

i know you're just joking ... but i still take offence to this sort of
slag-the-drummer mentality. telling the drummer to play to a guitarist's
loops (which are likely either overloaded, wimpish-paddish and/or out of
time-tune) :-=( is like the drummer telling a guitarist he's cheating
because his guitar has frets. ego damage ensues.

but seriously: the problem with live looping/ sequencing is that it can
make the music too rigid at times - the damn machines just don't listen
to us!

ironic: i've actually encountered resistance to my use of sequencing and
looping from guitarists!

l8ter,
rob

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Andrew Pask schrieb:
> 
> 
> Oh wow, drummers have been paranoid about
> clicks and drum machines since the ark.
> 
> "A drummer is someone who thinks that
> time is only a magazine"
> 
> Anon.
> > Hi Loopers,
> >
> > Regarding the 'loop alone' subject, I have found that it is difficult for
> > non-loopers to understand the concept of looping at first.  Once they get
> > it, you're ok, if they are competent players.  For example, i have been
> > trying to get some drummers to wear a earpiece that gets a click feed from
> > me (the looper).  I have my JamMan hooked into a Boss DR-770 (set to a
> > click pattern).  Once I close my loop, the click starts in sync with the
> > loop.  Once i shut off my loop, the click stops and we are back into normal
> > play.  I have yet to accomplish this 100%, but i am almost there with my
> > current band.  The problem usually is in the drummer's attitude.  I am
> > essentially telling him that he is the tempo keeper, until we hit a section
> > where a loop is, and then he has to follow the click.  When that section
> > ends, he is the tempo keeper again.  Asking drummers (especially amateur or
> > semi-pro) to follow a click is a tall order!  Like you're insulting their
> > playing or something...But to the audience, it would be seamless.
> >
> > rich
> >
> >
> > At 03:06 PM 1/24/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >> ILOOPALONE
> >>
> >> ----------
> >>> From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
> >>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> >>> Subject: Re: hi all
> >>> Date: Mon, Jan 24, 2000, 6:41 AM
> >>>
> >>
> >>> I find the more I loop the less I like to play with non-loop smart people.
> >>> They get in the way. For a non loop jam along fine or a family sing a long
> >>> great. Do most of our loopers prefer to loop alone?  I thought postal
> > dave's
> >>> comment was funny.  Om and Out
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Kim Flint <kflint@annihilist.com>
> >>>> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: hi all
> >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:21:41 -0800
> >>>>
> >>>>> "looking to meet up with people to work with" >Andrew.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and you call yourself a looper.lol
> >>>>>
> >>>>> your friendly postman.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm sorry, what's funny about working with other people? Many people use
> >>>> loops in group situations all the time. In fact, it's a frequent topic on
> >>>> this list.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess the postman always works alone. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> kim
> >>>>
> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________
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Rob writes...
> i know you're just joking ... but i still take offence to this sort
of slag-the-drummer mentality. telling the drummer to play to a
guitarist's loops (which are likely either overloaded, wimpish-paddish
and/or out of time-tune) :-=( is like the drummer telling a guitarist
he's cheating
because his guitar has frets. ego damage ensues.

I'd suggest that pads and ambience are very versatile in loops...
they allow other more defined events to co-exist and further define
their ambiguity. It's more likely that you'll hear a pad from a
guitarist and certainly from a synthesist (drums seem to have a harder
time creating pads 8-)).  As for the out-of-tune thing... maybe you
need to meet some new guitarists! 8-)

Anyway... The obvious problem is that one has to listen more
carefully AND actually be able to hear the damn loop to respond to it.


> but seriously: the problem with live looping/ sequencing is that it
can make the music too rigid at times - the damn machines just don't
listen to us!

I agree... that's the real art of looping. Mixing it up and creating
variety. But I'm still willing to believe that it's worth doing. 

> ironic: i've actually encountered resistance to my use of
sequencing and looping from guitarists!

The damn hardware is just too damn hard to hug... I've started
playing with a couple guys who mostly play jazz standard gigs. After
going to Burning Man, the keyboard player came back just dying to get
weird so he called me. (that could be a plus or a minus depending... )
It's taken a couple months for them to believe looping is worthwhile
but now they're getting into it! 

We've yet to play with a drummer though, so that's still a hurdle we
need to confront. I'm constantly trying to come up with more ability
to sneak loops in and out as well as re-sync them after things start
to wander... Quick mutes and restarts as well as using multiply and
ending with record help create new time sig's and help re-sync things.


best,
-miko

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rob and miko were opining . . . 

> but seriously: the problem with live looping/ sequencing is that it
can make the music too rigid at times - the damn machines just don't
listen to us!

I agree... that's the real art of looping. Mixing it up and creating
variety. But I'm still willing to believe that it's worth doing. 


** sort of like playing with a dj or drum machine - - pre-recorded beats
don't really listen to you changing gears. very difficult to stop on a dime.
also, beats on lps sometimes give out before you're really ready to stop the
groove.

i tend to think that non-rhythmic loops are best for music with a
percussionist/drummer - - UNLESS they're just doing textural stuff. when i
do a band with just a trumpet player and guitarist, it's much easier to do
rhythmic loops; in fact it's almost necessary as otherwise there isn't any
real rhythmic thing going on. when doing the stuff with a dj i can lay in a
rhythmic loop that's related to his, and when the lp gives up i can continue
with the groove for a while, or bring it back as a compositional device
later.


stig

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i just did some research on this tool, and although you offer an amazing
price it just doesn't cut it for what i need ( although unfortunate -
because you're price is great) sorry.

-brent
Broman@niu.edu

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Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: Akai Headrush For Sale


>I have a 1 month old Akai Headrush for sale, used twice and in perfect
>condition for $125 plus shipping.
>
>Gary Weideman
>630-979-4957
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I work in a fucking computer store and I found two 32Mb SIMMS forgotten in a
corner.. But I'm sure you can buy them!
In about 30 minutes I'll met a co-worker and he have price lists of memory
SIMMS. I'll give you some prices, ok?

bye

Sam




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Asunto: Re: Yamaha SU700 problemos!


>Hey there.... Yeah I have some simlar problems... I have had only had it
for
>about 2 months, but I have got some of them to work out.  But the problem
>you said about it i think sticks.... I'll still ask some else for you about
>it..... It happened to me last night actually... i was effect the audio
>in... and i had two loops on top if it... and then I wanted to record that
>into another loop.... the effect was cut off as soon as I set up the
>recording parameters, and you can't record a loop while looping others....
I
>think... still as i said i have some problems to figure out aswell.... i
got
>a friend who's got one and tinkers with it, he's got other stuff he
>prefers..... but i will ask him and see what the limits are on your
>question....  i know the Su700 is a composing loop machine... so that on
the
>fly effects might interfer with recording at times... but you can always go
>back to the recorded loop and then reeffect it to get the sound that you
>wanted... I am pretty sure that it can only record in normal uneffected
>parameters...... My question to you is where did you get the extra memory
>component for it... the place i got from sent to some random computer store
>and I haven't gotten around to it... what did it cost you to upgrade.... i
>really need to get it cause I run out of memory and am stuck with saving
and
>fliping settings... its a pain in the ass... but I do like the machine...
>i'll forward you email to my friend... write me back and let me know how it
>goes....
>
>
>>From: "scb" <samu@gi.intercom.es>
>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>>Subject: Yamaha SU700 problemos!
>>Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:20:59 -0600
>>
>>Hi.
>>
>>Last week I bought YAMAHA SU700  after reading you can have max 20 songs
in
>>memory (I have 68MbRAM) with it and then mix them
>>and do a kind of deejaying playing them mixed up without interruptions.
>>
>>well. For what I have read in the unit's manual you can't do that.
>>you cannot change the song while in play mode! so you have to stop the
>>music, change the song and then hit playback button again!
>>
>>is this true?
>>do you know (if you can't help me) who can answer this to me?
>>people at the music store had no idea...
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Sam
>>
>>
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Renaldo

I believe the tune you mean is the title track from "Another Green World"
(1975), which is Brian's third solo album, and though it may *sound* a bit
like Fripp, its all Eno:  Organ, Desert-Guitar, Piano

If you don't already know, a good Eno site is:

http://www.hyperreal.org/music/artists/brian_eno/

Cheers

David
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You're probably thinking of "Another Grren World", from the album of the same name. Fripp appeared on that album, but not on that track, It's not really a looping track either.

This was in 1975, but in 1994, Arena switched to a new Eno piece - I don't know its title, but I believe it was from the "Glitterbug" sessions...

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Hi Sam,
Song |copy (page 229) clearly saying that this feature is useful when you
want to edit one copy of the song while retaining another for safekeeping.

This is not a Yamaha SU700 problem.  SU700 is a wicked little thing and it
does not have any problems.

You should go over the things in the manual before you do something.

Regards,
Zed.

>>
>>Last week I bought YAMAHA SU700  after reading you can have max 20 songs
in
>>memory (I have 68MbRAM) with it and then mix them
>>and do a kind of deejaying playing them mixed up without interruptions.
>>
>>well. For what I have read in the unit's manual you can't do that.
>>you cannot change the song while in play mode! so you have to stop the
>>music, change the song and then hit playback button again!
>>
>>is this true?
>>do you know (if you can't help me) who can answer this to me?
>>people at the music store had no idea...
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Sam
>>
>>
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Hey, I've always felt that any sequencer is a looping device.  My first
looper then was EH's Sequencer.  What a sorry piece of equipment...  But it
made a noise, and it looped!

  | -----Original Message-----
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  | I also play
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Use the Cool Edit Help menu- I'm sure it explains how to adjust sample =
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PS- I live in L.A.- how do I get into the NAMM show? Anyone? :)

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> hi
> do any of you good people know the name of the fripp and eno (or just eno)
> track that was used as the theme music for the british t.v. program
Arena
> and what album it is from?
> thanks
> renaldo

10 Green bottles (I think) - but I can't remember the album! You could find
it on any Eno site
cheers

Richard
Manchester
>
>
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another green world from the album another green world by brian eno.
thanks for the answer guys
renaldo


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hey folks,

ok, i'm midi idiot. or a midiot as someone else has called me :-)  anyway, i 
have absolutely no experience using midi. i have the vague notion that it 
can be used to control and synch devices, but that's it. here's some of what 
i would like to do. i'd like to synch my edp with my roland dr sample so my 
edp loops are in time with the groove samples/loops. also, i perform with a 
percussionist who has a jam man. we'd like to synch the edp and jam man so 
our loops are in time with each other. lastly, i'd like to synch my edp and 
dr sample with my digi 001 mac recording system so i can add loops to a 
previous recording in time. is any/all of this possible? any suggestions on 
resources to learn how to do this? thanks!

tony

ps - looks like i will be moving to the la area later this year (old arleta, 
ca thread), but not in time to see you folks at namm :-(
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Here's a cool web site I found awhile back on Exploring MIDI, with self-test
java appplets!
http://nuinfo.nwu.edu/musicschool/links/projects/midi/expmidiindex.html
-Scott

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 1:14 PM
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hey folks,

ok, i'm midi idiot. or a midiot as someone else has called me :-)  anyway, i
have absolutely no experience using midi. i have the vague notion that it
can be used to control and synch devices, but that's it. here's some of what
i would like to do. i'd like to synch my edp with my roland dr sample so my
edp loops are in time with the groove samples/loops. also, i perform with a
percussionist who has a jam man. we'd like to synch the edp and jam man so
our loops are in time with each other. lastly, i'd like to synch my edp and
dr sample with my digi 001 mac recording system so i can add loops to a
previous recording in time. is any/all of this possible? any suggestions on
resources to learn how to do this? thanks!

tony

ps - looks like i will be moving to the la area later this year (old arleta,
ca thread), but not in time to see you folks at namm :-(
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Just wanted to quickly praise Line 6's customer support dept.  I ordered the
DL-4 expression pedal through mail order, and when it arrived I noticed that
part of the rubber pad (the piece with the logo) wasn't fully adhering to
the pedal.  It wasn't a big deal, it was just one of the corners really, but
I could imagine it coming off after several months of regular use.  I called
Line 6 to ask them about possibly swapping it out, and without an ounce of
prodding they agreed.  Within a couple of days I got a FedEx form in the
mail for overnight delivery of the pedal to Line 6.  A new pedal was
immediately delivered overnight back to me.  The entire process took only
two days (slightly less actually) and didn't cost me a cent.  Much thanks to
Line 6.  One wouldn't think that the rubber pad on an expression pedal would
be much of a priority but I was happy to be wrong.

MikeH


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Curently Rogue Music's Auction site is offering free listing for until
1/27. No fees etc if you list before midnight Thursday 1/27/00.  I just put
a jam man up there for anyone still needing one of them.

Loop On!

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Wow, I'm impressed
----- Original Message -----
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> Just wanted to quickly praise Line 6's customer support dept.  I ordered
the
> DL-4 expression pedal through mail order, and when it arrived I noticed
that
> part of the rubber pad (the piece with the logo) wasn't fully adhering to
> the pedal.  It wasn't a big deal, it was just one of the corners really,
but
> I could imagine it coming off after several months of regular use.  I
called
> Line 6 to ask them about possibly swapping it out, and without an ounce of
> prodding they agreed.  Within a couple of days I got a FedEx form in the
> mail for overnight delivery of the pedal to Line 6.  A new pedal was
> immediately delivered overnight back to me.  The entire process took only
> two days (slightly less actually) and didn't cost me a cent.  Much thanks
to
> Line 6.  One wouldn't think that the rubber pad on an expression pedal
would
> be much of a priority but I was happy to be wrong.
>
> MikeH
>
>

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thanks, I think I got it now.Ange
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Clifford@BienAppraisers=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 10:39 AM
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  Use the Cool Edit Help menu- I'm sure it explains how to adjust sample =
rate there- also- be aware that as far as bit rate goes, you are limited =
by your audio card- I use VST 24 bit but can only achieve 16 bit with my =
current audio card- Not sure if that is related or not but good luck- - =
-=20
  =20
  Cliff
  =20
  PS- I live in L.A.- how do I get into the NAMM show? Anyone? :)
  =20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: ANGELO J ROTONDO <ANGE-ROTONDO@prodigy.net>
    To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
    Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:31 AM
    Subject: help


    I just purchased a new Dell, Dimension xps b733r.  I have always =
used cool edit and it suits my needs for recording voice clips.  but I =
need to adjust my sample rate. How do I do that to use with my Dell.
       thank you ,  Ange
    ange-rotondo@prodigy.net

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In a message dated 1/26/00 7:48:25 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, 
scott.schneider@Rational.Com writes:

<< Here's a cool web site I found awhile back on Exploring MIDI, with 
self-test
 java appplets!
 http://nuinfo.nwu.edu/musicschool/links/projects/midi/expmidiindex.html >>

scott.......thanks, much info here.........i know nothing of midi so this was 
a pretty deep read, hexadecimal systems, what the heck!.......i feel dumber 
everyday.......but i do have a question........i have an old casio cz-5000 
that is midi and an alesis quadraverb 2 that is also midi.....can i make the 
casio act as a "controler" that will change the paramaters on the q-2, sort 
of like the expression pedal on the zoom 2100?.........i can see where this 
would be a very good thing, my loops could sound wackier.......im sorry if 
this is like talking about "strings"............:)..........michael

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I have a Vortex to sell. With "tip Ring" foot switch. In same rack for
its lifetime. Clean.
$250.00 or make offer.

Ed Cornell. tele# 410-377-7283

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hey, all.
please pardon my suddden unlurking to go OT & post this l'il promotion.
(i don't seem to play 'live' very often, in these united states, & this particular concert wasn't really advertised.)

friday night, 28th january, 2000/ 8pm only
the knitting factory / main space / leonard st, nyc, ny

SPLaTTerCeLL (the improv mix)
david torn (gtr/oud/loops/electrons) & will calhoun (all sortsa drummy-things/electrons)

awright, then.
best,
david torn

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Hey Loopers,

Did anyone decide whether to get together at the NAMM show?  Last i heard
Sunday was the possible day...Any locations?

later,

rich

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Digitech Delay, Distortion, Vocalist, etc.

Asking Price: US$N/A
Condition: Mint
Age: N/A
Description:

       Digitech Time Machine Delay- (RDS-4000), rackmount delay
       that has up to four seconds of delay time. Trigger input,
       sample and hold/repeat, modulation, etc. $139.00

       Digitech Rock Box- Distortion and chorus pedals built into
       one big box. Takes a 9-volt or standard power adapter. Has
       two separate footswitches for bypassing each effect. $99.00

       Digitech Vocalist- VHM5 Harmony/pitch transposer effect unit
       for vocal applications. Good condition. Tabletop unit.
       $149.00

       Electro Harmonix Bass Balls- new in box. Never used-
       reissue version. $59.00

       I am looking for other interesting effects like filters,
       phasers, analog delays, ring modulators. Lovetone, Way
       Huge, Mutron, Foxx, EH, etc. Email or call with you trade
       offers

Seller: Scott Radke, 612-706-1930
E-mail: solus@visi.com (Profile)
Location: MINNEAPOLIS, MN
Post Date: 1/25/2000

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For all you knob freaks:



Digitech 4 Sec Delay RDS Time Machine

Asking Price: US$130
Condition: Mint
Age: 1 year 
Description:

       Rackmount 4 second digital delay/sampler/flanger. Nice warm analog
sound, no noise. Losta controls, footswitchable, plenty of in's&out's. Great
       for stage or studio. Almost new condition. Built in power supply,
with manual, price includes shipping in USA. I always respond and ship
       quickly. Chris.

Seller: Chris Teffner,
E-mail: cjt@ols.net (Profile)
Post Date: 1/25/2000

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In a message dated 25/01/00 15:37:57 GMT Standard Time, dusty@patriot.net 
writes:

> favorite algorithms to try first (no, I've never played with a 
>  Vortex).
The thing about the Vortex is that it can "Morph" seemlessly between any 2 of 
it's algorithms. Maybe you could emulate this with one complex algorithm.


Have a look at the manual (find from LD site ?) for structure diagrams. 
 

Andy Butler
Lexicon Vortex Database 
http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm

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I don't have any of the equipment you mentioned so I can't say first-hand,
but if the Casio CZ-5000 has a MIDI-OUT port and your Alesis Quadraverb has
a MIDI-IN you're on your way.

Connect the MIDI-OUT to the MIDI-IN and hit a key of the keyboard and see
what happens.  This is a place to start, next look for settings on these
devices to select how MIDI information is sent and received [this is
different for different equipment].  In theory you should be able to control
the effects unit with your keyboard and controllers.

I guess, try it and see what happens!!
Good Luck...
-Scott
[Deejay Exoskeleton - Puyallup, WA]

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In a message dated 1/26/00 7:48:25 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time,
scott.schneider@Rational.Com writes:

<< Here's a cool web site I found awhile back on Exploring MIDI, with
self-test
 java appplets!
 http://nuinfo.nwu.edu/musicschool/links/projects/midi/expmidiindex.html >>

scott.......thanks, much info here.........i know nothing of midi so this
was
a pretty deep read, hexadecimal systems, what the heck!.......i feel dumber
everyday.......but i do have a question........i have an old casio cz-5000
that is midi and an alesis quadraverb 2 that is also midi.....can i make the
casio act as a "controler" that will change the paramaters on the q-2, sort
of like the expression pedal on the zoom 2100?.........i can see where this
would be a very good thing, my loops could sound wackier.......im sorry if
this is like talking about "strings"............:)..........michael

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okay.....


>From: "scb" <samu@gi.intercom.es>
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>Subject: RE: Yamaha SU700 problemos!
>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:27:07 -0600
>
>I work in a fucking computer store and I found two 32Mb SIMMS forgotten in 
>a
>corner.. But I'm sure you can buy them!
>In about 30 minutes I'll met a co-worker and he have price lists of memory
>SIMMS. I'll give you some prices, ok?
>
>bye
>
>Sam
>
>
>
>
>-----Mensaje original-----
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>Para: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>Fecha: martes, 25 de enero de 2000 16:34
>Asunto: Re: Yamaha SU700 problemos!
>
>
> >Hey there.... Yeah I have some simlar problems... I have had only had it
>for
> >about 2 months, but I have got some of them to work out.  But the problem
> >you said about it i think sticks.... I'll still ask some else for you 
>about
> >it..... It happened to me last night actually... i was effect the audio
> >in... and i had two loops on top if it... and then I wanted to record 
>that
> >into another loop.... the effect was cut off as soon as I set up the
> >recording parameters, and you can't record a loop while looping 
>others....
>I
> >think... still as i said i have some problems to figure out aswell.... i
>got
> >a friend who's got one and tinkers with it, he's got other stuff he
> >prefers..... but i will ask him and see what the limits are on your
> >question....  i know the Su700 is a composing loop machine... so that on
>the
> >fly effects might interfer with recording at times... but you can always 
>go
> >back to the recorded loop and then reeffect it to get the sound that you
> >wanted... I am pretty sure that it can only record in normal uneffected
> >parameters...... My question to you is where did you get the extra memory
> >component for it... the place i got from sent to some random computer 
>store
> >and I haven't gotten around to it... what did it cost you to upgrade.... 
>i
> >really need to get it cause I run out of memory and am stuck with saving
>and
> >fliping settings... its a pain in the ass... but I do like the machine...
> >i'll forward you email to my friend... write me back and let me know how 
>it
> >goes....
> >
> >
> >>From: "scb" <samu@gi.intercom.es>
> >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
> >>To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> >>Subject: Yamaha SU700 problemos!
> >>Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:20:59 -0600
> >>
> >>Hi.
> >>
> >>Last week I bought YAMAHA SU700  after reading you can have max 20 songs
>in
> >>memory (I have 68MbRAM) with it and then mix them
> >>and do a kind of deejaying playing them mixed up without interruptions.
> >>
> >>well. For what I have read in the unit's manual you can't do that.
> >>you cannot change the song while in play mode! so you have to stop the
> >>music, change the song and then hit playback button again!
> >>
> >>is this true?
> >>do you know (if you can't help me) who can answer this to me?
> >>people at the music store had no idea...
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >>Sam
> >>
> >>
> >
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I just put a RDS 8000 for sale on ebay w/no reserve.  It is absolutely
immaculate, not even a scratch. Most here are already familiar w/this
unit but let me remind you that it has non-destructive delay time change
on the fly!  Let's see the Jamman/EDP do this.  plus LFO modulation.
I'd rather potential buyers just deal w/me thru ebay unless you are in
the Seattle area, in which case I could cancel the auction and sell in
person.  Own the one tool no looper should be w/o
Gotta raise money for marriage OUCH!
thanx for your time

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I am trying to get a pass- if anyone can help let me know- I live 15 minutes
from the convention center-

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
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>Hey Loopers,
>
>Did anyone decide whether to get together at the NAMM show?  Last i heard
>Sunday was the possible day...Any locations?
>
>later,
>
>rich
>

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What is the latest word on the new Echoplex from Trace Elliot.  I have seen a 
lot of EDPs on the Ebay........Is the new one coming out soon?

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I would suggest to anyone able to attend to ask David if a recording might
be made of the show- I have been getting a mono pair from the board with my
mini disc and getting fantastic results! Beyond that it would be up to DT
what is done with the master- only a suggestion-

Cliff

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Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 8:45 AM
Subject: OT: torn gig


>hey, all.
>please pardon my suddden unlurking to go OT & post this l'il promotion.
>(i don't seem to play 'live' very often, in these united states, & this
particular concert wasn't really advertised.)
>
>friday night, 28th january, 2000/ 8pm only
>the knitting factory / main space / leonard st, nyc, ny
>
>SPLaTTerCeLL (the improv mix)
>david torn (gtr/oud/loops/electrons) & will calhoun (all sortsa
drummy-things/electrons)
>
>awright, then.
>best,
>david torn
>

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Kim and other NAMM attendees,

Why not meet at George's booth on Saturday, 2:00pm?
George was nice enough to invite us to his booth
and since he can't get away from his booth, why not
meet at Line 6 Booth, #4021?

Should we have a "secret" sign so we can identify
our fellow loopers?  Hehehe.

Curbie

P.S.
Kim, will Mathias be attending NAMM.  It would be
a great treat to meet him.


-----Original Message-----
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For any loopers who'll be at NAMM, swing on by the Line 6 booth (4021),
as I'd love to meet the folks from the list. I'll be the big guy in the
porkpie hat. Friday and Saturday, we'll also have Reeves Gabrels, Paul
Ill, Danny Saber, and Blake Douglas performing together in the booth.

George


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Based on the last few years of Echoplex stalking, it appears that it's
ALWAYS described as coming out "soon", unless it's being described as
"discontinued".  

If there's someone who has precise powers of predicting its availability,
they've yet to post to this list.  I think it was available for one brief
period last year, and one the year before that.  My advice is to buy all the
units you think you'll need for a few years the next time it comes
available, or resign yourself to paying $1200-1500 on ebay.

TH

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> What is the latest word on the new Echoplex from Trace Elliot.  I have seen a
> lot of EDPs on the Ebay........Is the new one coming out soon?
> 

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unsuscribe as in not suspecting a writen word. also see surprising a
scribe.lol


try.    unsubscribe   you could even cut and paste if you like.



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Travis Hartnett wrote:

> Based on the last few years of Echoplex stalking, it appears that it's
> ALWAYS described as coming out "soon", unless it's being described as
> "discontinued".
>
> If there's someone who has precise powers of predicting its availability,
> they've yet to post to this list.  I think it was available for one brief
> period last year, and one the year before that.  My advice is to buy all the
> units you think you'll need for a few years the next time it comes
> available, or resign yourself to paying $1200-1500 on ebay.
>
> TH

i think travis h. was e. scrooge in an earlier incarnation


lance g.

:-)

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Subject: my last OT, i promise!(not so many torn gigs)
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cliff, et al.....
>I would suggest to anyone able to attend to ask David
>if a recording might be made of the show
this show (like the last one) will be recorded to multitrack, by robert frazza (aka frazzlebazzle).

also ---like the last one--- we all are being filmed:
s'gonna be a 30-minute special on BET, in the spring.

and, well, ummm.....
i posted all this OT stuff re:the gig, cause i'm seriously considering taking a hiatus from what-already-few-concerts-i've-been-doing, for an 'indefinite while'.

after this one, only 1-1/2 concerts've been confirmed:
3rd March, 2000
knitting factory mainspace
dt, solo: playing an arrangement of Ornette Coleman's "Lonely Woman"

16th March, 2000
Merkin Hall @ Lincoln Center, NYC
david torn & terry bozzio (duets)

best,
dt

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<<Based on the last few years of Echoplex stalking, it appears that it's
ALWAYS described as coming out "soon", unless it's being described as
"discontinued".  >>

A pretty accurate description, I'd say.

    hawkeye

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If you send me a cheque for $50 I'll gladly unsubscribe you.  Please e-mail
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What The Hell Is This All About?????

"Clifford@BienAppraisers" wrote:

> I would suggest to anyone able to attend to ask David if a recording might
> be made of the show- I have been getting a mono pair from the board with my
> mini disc and getting fantastic results! Beyond that it would be up to DT
> what is done with the master- only a suggestion-
>
> Cliff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Texture444@aol.com <Texture444@aol.com>
> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 8:45 AM
> Subject: OT: torn gig
>
> >hey, all.
> >please pardon my suddden unlurking to go OT & post this l'il promotion.
> >(i don't seem to play 'live' very often, in these united states, & this
> particular concert wasn't really advertised.)
> >
> >friday night, 28th january, 2000/ 8pm only
> >the knitting factory / main space / leonard st, nyc, ny
> >
> >SPLaTTerCeLL (the improv mix)
> >david torn (gtr/oud/loops/electrons) & will calhoun (all sortsa
> drummy-things/electrons)
> >
> >awright, then.
> >best,
> >david torn
> >

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thought some of you might like to know,

experiencing difficulty will be doing a live loop-based performance on
plutonian nights tonight starting at a little after 2am (PST) . citr
101.9fm in vancouver, and shoutcast info at:

http://sine.ranch.org/pluto

cheers
rich

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
haitch c soundcraft   /   sinesite:  http://sine.ranch.org
s i n u s o i d a l   \   email:            sine@ranch.org
records / bc.canada   /   artists. mp3s. realaudio. forums.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
plutonian nights radio show -+- http://sine.ranch.org/pluto

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Hello there,

Is anybody experienced enough with live acoustic guitars outhere? First of
all  i am hunting for a new acoustic electric nylon string guitar.Second i
haven´t found the best solution to switching from rythm to lead. I use a
boss FV300H volume pedal but it´s hard to play dynamic and control without
the signal being too loud or to low when stepping on it. I had bought the
Trace elliot TA100R thinking that this would improve the sound onstage and
give me a little boost but it just feeds back and outdoors is not loud
enough so i go directly into the mixer now. Any comments would be very
helpful thank you.
L.A.

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If you have a Mac try this. It´s great!

Anders Ostberg
Sweden
ICQ: 13998235
http://ostberg.cjb.net


SoundScript is a QuickTime sound scripting application, featuring 
hard-disk soundfile playback, looping, fading, recording and 
pitch-changing in real-time, manually or under script control. It is 
fully AppleScriptable and supports Drag and Drop.

SoundScript 1.0.0b5 is now available for download at the following URL.

http://www.kagi.com/mnorris/software.html





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> For a couple of days i noticed that my loops started slowly fading while a
> bit of noise was being present. When i tried to record a new loop it would
> only play once and then stop. I finally discovered (or at least think i
did)
> that it was due to the volume pedal being plugged in the feedback jack in
> the back.It´s weird because up until know it had been working with my boss
> FV 300 great. I unplugged it then started the unit plugged the pedal and
it
> worked normal again. But yesterday i started having the same problem.  I
also
> don´t understand what the auto record function does. Wether is on or off
it
> doesn´t make a difference does it?the unit is also quite noisy in the
> effects loop of my amp and i don´t know if this is normal.
> Thanks
> L.A.
>

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><<Based on the last few years of Echoplex stalking, it appears that it's
>ALWAYS described as coming out "soon", unless it's being described as
>"discontinued".  >>
>
>A pretty accurate description, I'd say.
>
>    hawkeye

Gibson/Trace has already announced to people that they have production
running and new units are being tested in their factory. Don't you guys pay
attention?

kim

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>Kim and other NAMM attendees,
>
>Why not meet at George's booth on Saturday, 2:00pm?
>George was nice enough to invite us to his booth
>and since he can't get away from his booth, why not
>meet at Line 6 Booth, #4021?
>
>Should we have a "secret" sign so we can identify
>our fellow loopers?  Hehehe.

It would be better to choose a smaller, unpopular company, but I guess we
could all wander around awkwardly asking the various guitar wankers trying
out pods: "uh, you a looper?"

sure, line 6 then.....

>Curbie
>
>P.S.
>Kim, will Mathias be attending NAMM.  It would be
>a great treat to meet him.

Matthias won't be there this time. He would love it if you flew down to
Brazil though. Lie in a hammock at his nice little country villa, play some
music with the lovely brazilians....much nicer than namm.

kim



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> Matthias won't be there this time. He would love it if you flew down to
> Brazil though. Lie in a hammock at his nice little country villa, play some
> music with the lovely brazilians....much nicer than namm.
>
> Man yer killin me.

Eric


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Hey Luis,
De-lurking long enough to say you may be interested to take a peek at our
Oneida Nylon string guitar. See it on our webpage at
http://ithacastring.com/oneida.html
 Also ,anyone attending the NAMM show. Please stop by and see us  in Kentia
Hall Booth #7240. We are shareing a booth with Daedalus Cabinets. Also of
great interest to anyone  into acoustic instrument amplification .On the web
at
http://www.daedalusmusic.com/
Regardsardsardsardsardsarsd,
Eric

Luis Angulo wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> Is anybody experienced enough with live acoustic guitars outhere? First of
> all  i am hunting for a new acoustic electric nylon string guitar.Second i
> haven´t found the best solution to switching from rythm to lead. I use a
> boss FV300H volume pedal but it´s hard to play dynamic and control without
> the signal being too loud or to low when stepping on it. I had bought the
> Trace elliot TA100R thinking that this would improve the sound onstage and
> give me a little boost but it just feeds back and outdoors is not loud
> enough so i go directly into the mixer now. Any comments would be very
> helpful thank you.
> L.A.

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In a message dated 1/28/00 4:09:39 AM, ostberg@gmx.net writes:

<<If you have a Mac try this. It´s great!>>

Thanks Anders
    Nice!

            hawkeye

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Check out the UltraSound Amps, too!  
One of my favorite luthier guitars is the Super Ace by Paul McGill...His 
email is Conecaster@aol.com
 
Regards, Wayne Wesley Johnson

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<<Don't you guys pay attention?      kim >>

I'll believe it when I see it.  I remember similar promises last summer about 
Opcode and the EDP to be out by August 1st 1999....

    hawkeye


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Gee, am I stupid, or what? A couple of weeks ago I wanted to unsubscribe one
of my accounts from the list (it's a long story), and managed to do it the
first time without any problems. I guess that was my fault for FOLLOWING THE
INSTRUCTIONS!!! I didn't realize that you had to send numerous bogus posts
to clog up the list first.

You might as well drop that "Administrivia" section if people aren't going
to read it, Kim.

Jim Bailey

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>i posted all this OT stuff re:the gig, cause i'm seriously considering
taking a hiatus from what-already-few-concerts-i've-been-doing, for an
'indefinite while'.
>
>after this one, only 1-1/2 concerts've been confirmed:
>3rd March, 2000>knitting factory mainspace
>dt, solo: playing an arrangement of Ornette Coleman's "Lonely Woman"
>
>16th March, 2000 >Merkin Hall @ Lincoln Center, NYC
>david torn & terry bozzio (duets)	best,dt


DT,

if i dare say so --no worries here - you are always fuly ON TOPIC..after
all --you certainly are one of the "Lewis & Clark level" brave explorers of
the wild, outer limits of Looping!! 

so -- when you're playing - rare as it is - fer sure let us know!!

it's a welcome TOPICAL blast in the midst often too-detailed gear talk!

peace and loops for all

andre'
Project Object March /April 2000 Tour is coming soon!!!
http://www.projectobject.com

*NEW* CD out - Alien Concepts by Jfk's Lsd Ufo	http://www.ufomusic.com

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Now I'm even more broken than before, Torn and Bozzio together! If you follow 
the suggestion of going to the left coast please drop by Chicago on the way!
Wish i was there,
Peter

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Looping with will calhoun on drums! Too bad I'm in Chicago that sounds like a 
great show.

Regretfully sorry i can't attend,
Peter

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<<Do you know some hardware sequencer which has the ability of being 
programmed from the computer???>>

Sam,
    I now use a Roland MC50.  It's not very large (the footprint of a 
laptop), and can handle any midi messages I want to store.  It works great 
and has never failed me in a live situation.  A few laptops (Apple and WinTel 
both) have gone a little "la la" under the bright lights however.  The Alesis 
MMT8 is reliable but is much more limited in what it can do.
    The MC50 controls my Sp-808, 2 Korg X5DR's, a Korg NS5R, a Korg D8 
digital multitrack, a Digitech Studio Vocalist, an Akai S01 Sampler, a Roland 
JS30 sampler, a Zoom ST-224 Sampler and my Yamaha ProMix 01 (I love watching 
those little faders moving around all on their own!).  I play along with my 
main keyboard, a Korg T3, a Korg Prophecy and my two guitars-an Epiphone 
6-string bass or my Alvarez classical.  
And vocals, of course.  I use any or all of these later unmidi-ed 
instruments, including vocals with my loopers: two Akai Headrushes and a DOD D
imension 12.
    One of the best things about the MC50, I think, is it's ability to slow 
down to 10 bpm.  Which is perfect for the slow-moving ambient backgrounds I 
usually try to laydown first. 
        
Cheers,
    hawkeye

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The Mix knob on my EDP has very suddenly become very
wobbly.  It's showing every
intention of breaking off completely.  I looked inside the
box to see if it was simply a
loose nut or something.  But no.  The stem of the knob is
loose inside of the housing itself.
Any suggestions on a way to address this?  What should it be
replaced with?  I suppose
there is a higher quality item out there?  The mechanism is
soldered to a circuit board,
which makes me nervous about tackling myself.  Would a
general sort of music
electronics repair person be able to fix this?  Anyone know
of a good recommendation in
the Twin Cities?  (I had a bad experience with the Good Guys
in St. Paul.....)
    I think you get the essence of my gist....
    Thanks.
    Gary Joyner

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The Mix knob on my EDP has very suddenly become very
wobbly.  It's showing every
intention of breaking off completely.  I looked inside the
box to see if it was simply a
loose nut or something.  But no.  The stem of the knob is
loose inside of the housing itself.
Any suggestions on a way to address this?  What should it be
replaced with?  I suppose
there is a higher quality item out there?  The mechanism is
soldered to a circuit board,
which makes me nervous about tackling myself.  Would a
general sort of music
electronics repair person be able to fix this?  Anyone know
of a good recommendation in
the Twin Cities?  (I had a bad experience with the Good Guys
in St. Paul.....)
    I think you get the essence of my gist....
    Thanks.
    Gary Joyner

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FreeNote Music be at Winter NAMM - February 3-6, 2000 in Los
Angeles. Booth K7630, Kentia Hall in Innovation Alley.

Both Jon Catler (president) and I are loopers as 
well as microtonal guitarists. Jon and bassist Hansford Rowe
will be at the booth to answer questions and demonstrate. 
I'll be around also. 

Take a lookie at http://microtones.com 
I just spent all day Saturday updating it
with new and improved content.
 
See you there!

-- 
* D a v i d         B e a r d s l e y
*           xouoxno@virtulink.com
*
* 49/32  R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time"
* M E L A  v i r t u a l  d r e a m house monitor
*
* http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm

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Yes, we pay attention.  I think we've all noted a distinct lack of firm ship
dates.

TH
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> Gibson/Trace has already announced to people that they have production
> running and new units are being tested in their factory. Don't you guys pay
> attention?


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Why don't you try one of those new little compressor deals like Alesis'.
You'd get to really control the volume and the dynamics, I think.  Anybody?

  | -----Original Message-----
  | From: Luis Angulo [mailto:L.Angulo@t-online.de]
  | Sent: Friday 28 January 2000 1:36 AM
  | To: Loopers delight
  | Subject: Live Acoustic amplifications

  | outhere? First of
  | all  i am hunting for a new acoustic electric nylon string
  | guitar.Second i
  | haven¥t found the best solution to switching from rythm to lead. I use a
  | boss FV300H volume pedal but it¥s hard to play dynamic and
  | control without
  | the signal being too loud or to low when stepping on it. I had


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:11:56 -0800
From: George Van Wagner <vanwag@earthlink.net> (by way of Kim Flint)
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I'll just look for the people drooling over the DL-4s <g>

Seriously, we do expect the booth to be fairly crowded, but I'll be glad
to meet anybody who pops up.

George

Kim Flint wrote:
>
> >Kim and other NAMM attendees,
> >
> >Why not meet at George's booth on Saturday, 2:00pm?
> >George was nice enough to invite us to his booth
> >and since he can't get away from his booth, why not
> >meet at Line 6 Booth, #4021?
> >
> >Should we have a "secret" sign so we can identify
> >our fellow loopers?  Hehehe.
>
> It would be better to choose a smaller, unpopular company, but I guess we
> could all wander around awkwardly asking the various guitar wankers trying
> out pods: "uh, you a looper?"
>
> sure, line 6 then.....
>
> >Curbie
> >
> >P.S.
> >Kim, will Mathias be attending NAMM.  It would be
> >a great treat to meet him.
>
> Matthias won't be there this time. He would love it if you flew down to
> Brazil though. Lie in a hammock at his nice little country villa, play some
> music with the lovely brazilians....much nicer than namm.
>
> kim
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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From: Curbie <curbfeeler@transworld-lax.com> (by way of Kim Flint)
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Okay Loopers,

Kim confirms.  Line 6 Booth #4021
on Saturday, 2:00pm (Feb. 5th).
We'll hover around George Van Wagner of Line 6 Booth,
or should I dare to say, we'll "loop" around George?!?!

I suppose the "ice-breaker" introduction is
"Do you Loop" or "are you a Looper" ?  Hehehe

Sorry, too much hehehe-ing.  I'm giddy with excitement
about attending NAMM 2000.

This is my 7th NAMM and I still feel like I'm going
to Disneyland.  Please excuse the goofy-ness.

Curbie

********************************************************

Kim Responds:

-----Original Message-----
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To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
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>Kim and other NAMM attendees,
>
>Why not meet at George's booth on Saturday, 2:00pm?
>George was nice enough to invite us to his booth
>and since he can't get away from his booth, why not
>meet at Line 6 Booth, #4021?
>
>Should we have a "secret" sign so we can identify
>our fellow loopers?  Hehehe.

It would be better to choose a smaller, unpopular company, but I guess we
could all wander around awkwardly asking the various guitar wankers trying
out pods: "uh, you a looper?"

sure, line 6 then.....

>Curbie
>
>P.S.
>Kim, will Mathias be attending NAMM.  It would be
>a great treat to meet him.

Matthias won't be there this time. He would love it if you flew down to
Brazil though. Lie in a hammock at his nice little country villa, play some
music with the lovely brazilians....much nicer than namm.

kim



______________________________________________________________________
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The exibits usually open  10am till 5pm for the duration. Sunday might
shut down earlier
EA

eric wrote:

> Hey - does anybody know the hours NAMM is open (especially on 2/3/00)?
> Is there some sort of info website?
> Thanks a bunch!
> eric o.

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Hey - does anybody know the hours NAMM is open (especially on 2/3/00)?
Is there some sort of info website?
Thanks a bunch!
eric o.


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George,

At 08:04 AM 1/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I'll just look for the people drooling over the DL-4s <g>


what are you talking about?  We would be the folks making those little
green boxes sit up and dance!

Actually, how bout a setup like this to hand over to a Loophead:

1. POD w/floorboard > 2. MM4 w/expression > 3. DL4 w/expression > 4. DL4 #2
w/expression > 5. MM4 w/expression > 6. Stereo Flextone

1. great tone/drive >
2. tweak/manipulate >
3. delay >
4. Loop >
5. tweak and mangle loops
6. Amplify!

this would be a yummy setup.  now we all might be drooling over this...

rich


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Eric,

The hours are:	10:00am to 6:00pm Thursday to Saturday
			10:00am to 5:00pm on Sunday

Best thing to do is to get there around 9:30am and park beneath
the "old" Convention Center.

For the LACC layout, check out: http://lacclink.com/halls.htm
Also check out NAMM's: http://www.namm.com/tradeshow/ts_floor_plan.html


See you there!

Curbie


-----Original Message-----
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Hey - does anybody know the hours NAMM is open (especially on 2/3/00)?
Is there some sort of info website?
Thanks a bunch!
eric o.


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:14:58 -0800
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try an overdrive peddle but turn down the overdrive. it will put some punch
into the mix with a lot of warmth.
as to feedback.    try a lr baggs. or a sansamp di with a notch filter.
----- Original Message -----
From: Luis Angulo <L.Angulo@t-online.de>
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 4:35 AM
Subject: Live Acoustic amplifications


Hello there,

Is anybody experienced enough with live acoustic guitars outhere? First of
all  i am hunting for a new acoustic electric nylon string guitar.Second i
haven¥t found the best solution to switching from rythm to lead. I use a
boss FV300H volume pedal but it¥s hard to play dynamic and control without
the signal being too loud or to low when stepping on it. I had bought the
Trace elliot TA100R thinking that this would improve the sound onstage and
give me a little boost but it just feeds back and outdoors is not loud
enough so i go directly into the mixer now. Any comments would be very
helpful thank you.
L.A.


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:15:36 -0800
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theres no need to get mad. "don't go postal"

a email link added to the bottom of the message to "unsubscribe" would save
us from these things. but then again it's fun to make fun of them.

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>
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If you're serious about playing loud without feedback, I'd recommend
purchasing a Behringer Feedback Destroyer.  Everything else pales in
comparison.  An amplified acoustic will always feedback if it's loud enough,
no matter what pre-amp/pickup/phase inversion approach you're using.
Serious technology is required if all those things have been tried and
you're still feeding back at the volume that you need to play at, and that's
where the Behringer comes in.

TH


> I had bought the
> Trace elliot TA100R thinking that this would improve the sound onstage and
> give me a little boost but it just feeds back and outdoors is not loud
> enough so i go directly into the mixer now. Any comments would be very
> helpful thank you.
> L.A.


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:16:33 -0800
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I've actually been doing some experiments with guitar-DL4-MM4-POD-DL4-2
AX2's. It is extremely cool, and I suspect I've manager to succesfully
create a couple of time warps with this setup.

George

>George,
>
>At 08:04 AM 1/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>I'll just look for the people drooling over the DL-4s <g>
>
>
>what are you talking about?  We would be the folks making those little
>green boxes sit up and dance!
>
>Actually, how bout a setup like this to hand over to a Loophead:
>
>1. POD w/floorboard > 2. MM4 w/expression > 3. DL4 w/expression > 4. DL4 #2
>w/expression > 5. MM4 w/expression > 6. Stereo Flextone
>
>1. great tone/drive >
>2. tweak/manipulate >
>3. delay >
>4. Loop >
>5. tweak and mangle loops
>6. Amplify!
>
>this would be a yummy setup.  now we all might be drooling over this...
>
>rich
>
>
>


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:20:45 -0800
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Start at the source

I recommend Godin Guitars (Canadian Co.) Make A fantastic Nylon Model.

Also (if ya' got a big wallet) try the Chet Atkins Nylon (....sorry fergot
make)

Carl Snow
Moss Hill REC>


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:17:24 -0800
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Hi loopers!

I wanna make a computer base live setup, I'm interested for a good fully
MIDI compatible software FX processor and looping software like Jam-man.
Also is there kind of DJ programs for live looping performances?
Thanks.

Tiit Kikas
tkikas@yahoo.com


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From: jo@numerica.it (by way of Kim Flint)
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now that they are online I can suggest a nice solution that solved me the
same problems you are talking about, plus gave me lots of creative ideas:
www.advancetubetech.com
go to Missing Link pages.
You can also read a review that I  posted to Harmony Central.
Luca.

----- Original Message -----
From: Luis Angulo <L.Angulo@t-online.de>
To: Loopers delight <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: Live Acoustic amplifications


> Hello there,
>
> Is anybody experienced enough with live acoustic guitars outhere? First of
> all  i am hunting for a new acoustic electric nylon string guitar.Second i
> haven¥t found the best solution to switching from rythm to lead. I use a
> boss FV300H volume pedal but it¥s hard to play dynamic and control without
> the signal being too loud or to low when stepping on it. I had bought the
> Trace elliot TA100R thinking that this would improve the sound onstage and
> give me a little boost but it just feeds back and outdoors is not loud
> enough so i go directly into the mixer now. Any comments would be very
> helpful thank you.
> L.A.
>
>


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Compressors are essiential for my live acoustic work due to the huge volume
swings of the guitar.  Once I started using them, my overall sound improved,
I could push more through the PA with less peak power reqs.


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From: ANET@aol.com (by way of Kim Flint)
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The key to acoustic amplification is a piezo pickup, a Crate 125(D) acoustic
amp, with line level to a good board.  Cut all midranges back, boost your
bass and treble.  For volume control try a Morley Pro volume pedal, you can
adjust the swing of volume levels in the pedal with a small pot on the side.

If you approach your acoustic instrument like you would a microphone on
stage, you'll be just fine.  Stay away from any direct feedback sources like
monitors etc.

If you play a real loud situation, get a Crate 125D and use the amp for stage
presence only.  The amp will be behind you so it won't contribute to
feedback.  Then take the line level from the amp and let the soundman pump it
into the PA .

P.S.  In the 70's there was basically no such thing a good sound in a live
setting.  So back then, everything was just loud with huge amounts of mids.
Today, you can cut your power requirements by 1/2 or more because the
amplification and speaker qualities, crossovers etc.  are so good at
reproducing sound.  If you're using old equipment, you may want to check out
stuff made in the last 5 years or so.  You'll be shocked.


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:18:01 -0800
From: Richard Menger <menger@home.com> (by way of Kim Flint)
Subject: tune of the day
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Guess I'll crawl outta my lurking hole to say that I really intrigued
by the idea of coming up with a new tune everyday and posting it to
the web.. so much so that I decided to do it as well. I posted them
in real audio at http://members.home.net/menger/tune.htm if anyone
wants to hear 'em. They're not exactly loops.. I recorded them in
Protools, but I limited myself to one pass per instrument unless I
really Screwed up..;)
-Rich
If you have an unpleasant nature and dislike people
this is no obstacle to work.
                                 --J.G. Bennett


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From: Wjguitar@aol.com (by way of Kim Flint)
Subject: Re: Live Acoustic amplifications
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For pickups I recommend the RMC's,  <A HREF="http://www.rmcpickup.com/">Click
here: RMC Pickups</A> L.R. Baggs,  <A
HREF="http://www.lrbaggs.com/products.htm">Click here: LR Baggs - Products
Page</A> or B-Band pickups.. <A HREF="http://www.b-band.com/">EMF Acoustics
Oy Ltd</A> ..They impress me the most...have that natural acoustic guitar
sound.  The typical piezo's by other manufacturers have a glassy/brittle
sound IMO....so I stay away from them.

As regards, guitars.....I'd suggest the Paul McGill Super Ace.  <A
HREF="http://www.mcgillguitars.com/supa.htm">Click here: Welcome to the
McGill Guitars Website!</A>  (Conecaster@aol.com)..   and the Godin Multiacs
<A HREF="http://www.lasido.com/godinmaster.html">Click here: Godin Guitars</A>
 and the H.G. Leach Guitars....for steel string flattops... <A
HREF="http://www.netshel.net/~leagit">Click here: H. G. Leach Guitars - Home
Page</A>

For Tube/DI Preamps...look at Demeter  <A
HREF="http://www.demeteramps.com/dbox.html">Click here: Demeter
Amplifications Direct Box</A>  and Kendrick's six shooter  <A
HREF="http://www.kendrick-amplifiers.com/">Click here: Kendrick Amplifiers,
Guitars and Necessities</A>

For tuners and feedback eliminators look to::  <A
HREF="http://www.sabineusa.com/sabine-music-accessories/sabine-music-accessori
es.html">Click here: sabine-music-accessories</A>

For amps there is the new UltraSound Acoustic Guitar amp...which is the best
sounding acoustic guitar amp I know of, and also probably at the best
value...sells for around $600.00  It has 2 x 8" coaxial speakers..... <A
HREF="http://bresh.com/main.html">Click here: THOM BRESH WEB WORLD</A>
UltraSound Amp.   <A
HREF="http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data/Ultrasound/">Click here:
Harmony CentralÆ: Guitar: The Amp Database: Ultrasound</A>

You might want to look into the Guyatone Vintage Tremolo unit and the Carl
Martin compressor... <A HREF="http://gaspedal.com/">Click here: Gaspedal.com
your new, used and vintage guitar pedal/EFX headquarters !!!!!!
</A>

If you like the sound of the old Space Echo's and Guild Binson
Echorecs.....check this out... <A
HREF="http://www.burns-guitars.co.uk/accessories/ageone.html">Click here:
Burns Guitars London | Amtech Age-one echo machine</A>

Regards, Wayne Wesley Johnson


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did ANYONE happen to tape the Torn/Calhoun gig?
 . . . that silly-assed RealAudio link let me down again   :(((((((((((((((

e-me privately--not picky about format (MD, DAT, monaural Fisher-Price
cassette) just want to hear the damn thing

bet the show was amazing (pardon me--have to go and beat my head against the
monitor again . . .


drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tom Lambrecht
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In a message dated 1/28/00 12:42:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gnominus@earthling.net writes:

<<
 Why don't you try one of those new little compressor deals like Alesis'.
 You'd get to really control the volume and the dynamics, I think.  Anybody?
  >>
Good Idea....ART (app. Resc. Tech) also made/makes? a small Tube Comp/Limiter
called the "LevelAR"
w/ 1/4 and XLR I/O .....i use it....i love it, just not comp. sure they still
MAKE the lil' sucker

Carl Snow
Moss Hill REC>


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:23:47 -0800
From: Phaedebk@aol.com (by way of Kim Flint)
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Dear all,

    Whoever it was that first posted the bit about Music Yo selling
Steinbergers for less than $260.00 many thanks!  I know, I know, it's a
Spirit model and not the graphite beasties (which, I too prefer) but have to
say that I am VERY happy with the guitar!  I made the order on Sunday morning
at about 2 AM, got the tracking number with UPS ground on Monday evening, and
it arrived on Thursday afternoon (wish I would've gone downstairs and checked
that day).

    Music Yo answered a few emails I had sent to them, and had given me a few
directions to go in on getting strings (they have a set of links to another
web seller) and to a few other people out there for cases, though you almost
always end up getting a slightly better deal from your local reseller, it
seems...

    The gig bag supplied with the Spirit GT-Pro isn't the same one that comes
with the typical Steinberger, and it seems to be best at keeping the rain off
the instrument and just simply being a better "bag" to carry the guitar.  The
pocket size is nice, would be nice if it was made from slightly better
materials and the strap a bit more sturdy.  The included instructions help
out a little, but could be just a little more clear about the "Main Tuning
Knob."  Also, would've been awesome to supply a set or two of extra strings,
but that's it for the "gee, it woulda been nice if's."

    The guitar itself is set up similiar to an Ibanez, with a Main Volume and
a Main Tone control, a five way pick up selector and a pickup configuration
of Humbucker, single coil, Humbucker using passive EMG Selects.  Was really
happy with the tone of the instrument on both clean and distorted channels.
Something to be said about these new EMG Selects...  They sound MUCH better
than the way they did only a few years ago.  Unplugged, the guitar sounds
bright and clear, but not thin!  Also, don't sweat sustain (in my view,
there's never enough) and this little beastie seems to sustain for forever
and a day both clean and distorted.

    The only thing that takes a little getting used to is the tension knob on
the back of the whammy bar, and that you don't want to be monkeying around
with it that much (how I broke a few strings after I first starting playing
with the guitar and had to make a desperate trip to the local music store).
Seems like the best thing is to suss out what size strings you're going to
use and then to just simply leave it (Main tuning knob) there.  The lock
lever needs a pair of needle nose pliers for the first few uses, and then can
be done with a little more force later on.  Took a little time to get the
hang of the Main Tuning Knob and keeping the whammy bar staying in the
"middle" position.
    Tuning this beastie and it staying stable are also super sweet, wish my
other whammy bar instruments would behave the same way, but oh well...

    Adding a phaser, and a pair of digital delays, this beastie is a blast,
adding a Boomerang at the end of the signal chain and man, what fun we can
have...  Have to take a peak at the powered PA that Music Yo is selling and
then it's just a matter of speakers...  No, I don't have GAS.  :)

    L8r on,

        Lee-ohki.









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From: Tim Nelson <tcn62@ici.net> (by way of Kim Flint)
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I agree, it's not the real deal Steiny, but I like mine very much for the
price.

After the first posting about MusicYo, they ran out of GT-Pros (eventually
they ran out of all the Spirits except for one model of bass before they
got them back in.) When they re-stocked, I noticed the price had gone up 20
or 30 bucks, but it was still a good deal. My order took about three days,
arriving a couple of days before Christmas, so that was pretty impressive.

The best string source I've found if your friendly local guy won't/can't
stock them is <http://www.juststrings.com/>. That's also where I get
strings for my bouzouki, saz, cumbus, oud, lap steel, etc.; it's worth a
look. They also have prompt, efficient service.

Tim

At 01:20 PM 1/29/00 EST, you wrote:
>    Whoever it was that first posted the bit about Music Yo selling
>Steinbergers for less than $260.00 many thanks!.... (snip)
>  ....      Lee-ohki.


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Hello there,
I am still trying to figure out the best way to nicely record the loops from
the EDP into a digital studio like the Roland VS 840. Taking the mono output
from the EDP into the input from the Roland is quite noisy. I don¥t have a
sequencer offcourse.Anyone?
L.A.


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From: Bill Fox <billfox@fast.net> (by way of Kim Flint)
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                        Playlist for EMUSIC

EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in
Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

                    Show #149    January 27, 2000.

On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Hypnos Records.  =
Founded by
Mike Griffin, Hypnos is an outstanding source of electronic, ambient, =
and
experimental music.  Tonight's Feature CD at Midnight was Lost Terrain =
by Jeff
Greinke.


ARTIST                  TRACK                    ALBUM (label)
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Vir Unis                Solar Plexus             The Drift Inside (Green =
House)
Vir Unis                Neuron Lights            The Drift Inside (Green =
House)
Vir Unis                Deepest Dream            The Drift Inside (Green =
House)
Klaus Schulze           Darkest Steglitz         Trailer (Manikin)
VA [Steve Jolliffe]     New Millennium           Music for the 3rd =
Millennium (AMP)
Pyramid Peak            Atmosphere               Atmosphere (Invisible =
Shadows)
John Flomer             Weeping Cavern           Night in the Vapor =
Jungle (Spotted Peccary)
Horchata & Twine        Soil                     Resource (AdAstra)
Sam Rosenthal           Jane                     Before the Buildings =
Fell (Projekt)
Steve Hue               Macrobiotic Adventures   Organics (Manikin)

12:00 am
Jeff Greinke            Terrain of Memory        Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            The Cry                  Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            The Moor                 Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            River of Wood            Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            Falling Away             Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            The Precipice            Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            Spires                   Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            Rendered Motionless      Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
Jeff Greinke            Confluence               Lost Terrain (Hypnos)
VA [Larry Kucharz]      Cosmology                Voyager (AdAstra)

1:00 am

 * =3D exerpt
VA =3D Various Artists (compilation)

On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on the American =
synthesist
Michael Garrison.  The feature CD at Midnight will be Aurora Dawn on the
Windspell label.

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At 1:14 PM -0800 1/26/00, tony moore wrote:
>hey folks,
>
>ok, i'm midi idiot. or a midiot as someone else has called me :-)  anyway, i
>have absolutely no experience using midi. i have the vague notion that it
>can be used to control and synch devices, but that's it. here's some of what
>i would like to do. i'd like to synch my edp with my roland dr sample so my
>edp loops are in time with the groove samples/loops. also, i perform with a
>percussionist who has a jam man. we'd like to synch the edp and jam man so
>our loops are in time with each other. lastly, i'd like to synch my edp and
>dr sample with my digi 001 mac recording system so i can add loops to a
>previous recording in time. is any/all of this possible? any suggestions on
>resources to learn how to do this? thanks!
>
>tony

Hi Tony-

Both the echoplex and the jamman can use Midi clock for sync. They can both
either generate or receive the clock. You should be able to sync one to the
other fairly easily. I don't know about the Dr. Sample, but most most
sequencer / drum machine / sampler type devices do use midi clock for sync.
It should be quite easy, you just need to decide which device is going to
be the source of the clock and set the tempo for the others. That one goes
in the beginning of the midi chain and the others follow it.

For the echoplex, there is plenty of info on using sync in the Echoplex FAQ
on Looper's Delight:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ.html


and for the jamman, we've got plenty of info on that too:

http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/jamman/jamman.html

good luck,
kim

______________________________________________________________________
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From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net> (by way of Kim Flint)
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I have recorded into Cubase with good results- make sure the line in level
on the VS is up and the out on the EDP is as low as possible- another
alternative would be to attempt a midi sample dump but takes forever and I'm
not sure how it works completly- i never could get Cubase to recieve it
correctly but if you get it to work I suppose you would have a nice quiet
copy-

Cliff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luis Angulo" <L.Angulo@t-online.de>
To: "Loopers delight" <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: EDP Loop dumps


> Hello there,
> I am still trying to figure out the best way to nicely record the loops
from
> the EDP into a digital studio like the Roland VS 840. Taking the mono
output
> from the EDP into the input from the Roland is quite noisy. I don¥t have a
> sequencer offcourse.Anyone?
> L.A.
>


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:27:02 -0800
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Luis Angulo wrote:

> Hello there,
> I am still trying to figure out the best way to nicely record the loops from
> the EDP into a digital studio like the Roland VS 840. Taking the mono output
> from the EDP into the input from the Roland is quite noisy. I don¥t have a
> sequencer offcourse.Anyone?
> L.A.

i use a preamp and compressor before the inputs on my VS880. art makes a pretty
nice little mic pre (tube mp) for about us$100, which has the added benefit of
warming up your signal with a 12ax7 tube; compression in the roland units
(assuming you have the effects card) is pretty lame; i generally run stuff
through a joemeek vc6 for squishing. i like the joemeek stuff a lot (green is
one of my favorite colors :-)

lance g.


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:22:05 -0800
From: SnarleyCo@aol.com (by way of Kim Flint)
Subject: Re: Live Acoustic amplifications
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In a message dated 1/28/00 5:06:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hartne.t@apple.com writes:

<< If you're serious about playing loud without feedback, I'd recommend
 purchasing a Behringer Feedback Destroyer.  >>
ANOTHER great idea......Behringer also makes a Rack comp. lim. called the
"Ultra gain pro" (tube Dual mono = stereo on MY rack) witch in conjunction w/
thier F-back dest is....well....godlike...as do all Behringer products i own
-------yeah a bit partial t' that  Co. here LOL gotta TON o' Behringer gear
NEVER been dissapointed.....by the way...Behringer make an incredible vastly
sweepable Mono parametric e.q. called the "Ultra Q" the price (low) will amze
as well as the sound.

Carl Snow
Moss Hill REC>


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:27:51 -0800
From: tony moore <moorelab@hotmail.com> (by way of Kim Flint)
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hi folks,

well, i'm trying to simplify things a bit before we head to california
(space and time will be at a premium for awhile), so i'm selling the stuff
below. before i list stuff on ebay or the like, i thought some of you may be
interested. anyway, here goes, don't be afraid to make an offer:

- ramsa/panasonic pa speaker system. two portable full range boxes with one
12" and a horn and one portable subwoofer with one 12" and two ports. these
are the small boxes made of tough plastic and with a metal grille covering
the speakers. these are incredible speakers in a great movable size. they've
got their share of scuffs and such but have been recently checked out and
are in perfect working order. $500 for all three. which is about what one
cabinet goes for new.

- peavey dpc 1000 (digital) power amp. one rack space and weighs about 12
pounds. 500 watts per side into 4 ohms or 1000 watts bridged into 4 ohms.
works perfectly and sounds great. $500

- eden 'traveler plus' wt-400 bass amp head with twin tube preamp. perfect
condition. i bought it new about a year ago and have always transported it
in a case. very small and portable. sounds great! 400 watts into 4 ohms and
lots of features. $550

- acme b-1 bass cabinet. perfect condition with cover. i bought two but will
only need one for awhile. this is the little brother of the infamous b-2
that bass player mag keeps raving about, and for good reason. one 12", one
5", tweeter, and ported in a very small cab with speaker stand mount. this
is simply the most affordable audiophile type bass cabinet around. $325

-aguilar db680 tube bass preamp in perfect like new condition. i'm really
not sure if i should sell this or not... this is a completely class a tube
(10 freakin' tubes!) pre used by the likes of sting. jensen transformers and
all. this sells for a little under $1800 new. still under warranty for about
9 years! $1000

- wurlitzer electric piano with tremolo. this is the infamous'60's era black
model with good chrome legs, music stand, and carrying bag. it's in perfect
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fantastic. $300

- farfisa microrgan in great working order. another infamous '60's era
keyboard that's in great playing condition but has seen it's share of
playing. the case is a bit worn and someone painted the faceplate gold, but
it has that great farfisa sound and works great. $150

- two shure sm-57 mics in good shape. $50 each

- art levelar mono tube compressor in perfect like new condition. this is
the compressor version of the popular art tube mp preamp. sounds great and
in a very rugged steel chassis. still in box with blank warranty card $60

feel free to email me any questions. or you locals know where to reach me
:-)  oh, prices don't include shipping from cincinnati, oh if needed. thanks
for your time and bandwidth!

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You're supposed to be able to do a MIDI dump of the data on to your
computer.  I've never tried it, because they say the whole process would
take a very long time.  It should be in your manual.

  | -----Original Message-----
  | From: Luis Angulo [mailto:L.Angulo@t-online.de]
  | Sent: Saturday 29 January 2000 2:16 PM
  | To: Loopers delight
  | Subject: EDP Loop dumps
  |
  |
  | Hello there,
  | I am still trying to figure out the best way to nicely record
  | the loops from
  | the EDP into a digital studio like the Roland VS 840. Taking
  | the mono output
  | from the EDP into the input from the Roland is quite noisy. I
  | don¥t have a
  | sequencer offcourse.Anyone?
  | L.A.
  |
  |


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From: Os <os@scee.sony.co.uk> (by way of Kim Flint)
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try LiSa:

http://www.steim.nl/products.html


cheers,
os.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tiit Kikas <tkikas@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 11:47 PM
Subject: Software looping??


>Hi loopers!
>
>I wanna make a computer base live setup, I'm interested for a good fully
>MIDI compatible software FX processor and looping software like Jam-man.
>Also is there kind of DJ programs for live looping performances?
>Thanks.
>
>Tiit Kikas
>tkikas@yahoo.com
>


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-----Urspr¸ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Luis Angulo <L.Angulo@t-online.de>
An: Loopers delight <loopers-delight@annihilist.com>
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2000 23:16
Betreff: EDP Loop dumps


> Hello there,
> I am still trying to figure out the best way to nicely record the loops
from
> the EDP into a digital studio like the Roland VS 840. Taking the mono
output
> from the EDP into the input from the Roland is quite noisy and
unfortunately not stereo. I don¥t have a
> sequencer offcourse.Anyone?
> L.A.
>


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:30:21 -0800
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Subject: Tony Moore
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Tony Moore............Give Marc Doudican at a line on how the EDP is working


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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 18:33:20 -0800
From: samuel <samu@gi.intercom.es> (by way of Kim Flint)
Subject: MIDI Sequencers, computers  and live acts
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Hi there.


I have done a few lives with my computer and an akai s3000xl sampler, but
I'd like to be able to go a gig without my computer because you never know
when it could hang up or reboot or crash or die or whatever.

I recently bought a Yamaha SU700 for realtime controll its own sampler and
effects and the akai sampler. The SU has a very limited sequencer, a very
limited sampler and a very limited effects processor: It's capable of
storing 20 songs in memory, but you have to stop playback when you want to
change the song!!! This way you could not play two songs without
interruptions!!!

I have heard the Alesis MMT8 is 'the best' MIDI sequencer for live acts.
Anybody using it?

Another thing I don't like in SU700 is that  people at yamaha could have
programmed a simple application for pc to edit sequences and interchange
them between this unit and the PC (it has SCSI interface and MIDI, as well)

Do you know some hardware sequencer which has the ability of being
programmed from the computer???

Do you know if there are lots of people who use computers as sequencers for
live acts? or people usually make this with hardware sequencers?

please, if you do live acts, tell me which configuration do you use..

Many thanks.


Sam
#ICQ 38770781
Email: samu@findermac.com


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