From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 03:03:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30439; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:03:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 03:03:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00fa01bf0bd6$453e9760$4cc0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: U2 song sync Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:29:04 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"bVNaX3.0.ad5.CP5zt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I guess because the edges of the sound >are a little less defined. Pun intended I presume?? MicahH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 08:32:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21958; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:32:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:32:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Free Loops for You all Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"M6o2r.0.8u4.GVAzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Go to: http://www.waste.org/~crash/loopage.html There are three loops there in mp3 format for you all... Unfortunately, I mistyped the first link so I'll put all 3 here. For more information, check the page... http://www.waste.org/~crash/aliensporebomb-oceanofwaves.mp3 This is a wavetable synthesis demo of sorts. If you liked the sounds of the PPG and Waldorf wave synthesizers, check this out. This one is about two minutes long. http://www.waste.org/~crash/aliensporebomb-shortversion.mp3 a short backwards excerpt from "the unravelling". All guitars. This is about two minutes long or so. http://www.waste.org/~crash/aliensporebomb-unravelling.mp3 A very long (7 minutes +) version of the endloop portion of 'the unravelling' - it's all guitar and the forward version. It's an excerpt of a 40 minute piece that unfortunately most of which was lost (thus the title). Both of the unravelling variations were processed through the procrastination audio looper for the PowerMac by Ken Mistove. Enjoy. Now I gotta finish Source/Object really quickly and I'll feel like I've actually accomplished something. -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 09:27:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01736; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:27:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:27:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F49FDD.C7849B97@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 12:49:49 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Synchronization band-loop (machine-loop) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hwess3.0.Fk7.RHBzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Matthias Grob wrote: > > Jim asked: > >Anyone use the EDP midi out to sync. drum machines? > >I always find that even with 1/8th beats at max. the > >clock output is far too slow even on a 5sec. base loop. > > Oh, thats interesting. It would not be complicated to change the 1/8th > beats table. Maybe it should not contain all the odd beat numbers, but > bigger ones instead? > Adding bigger ones is needed but cutting out some values could start a war... you have some responsabilities now Mathias... yodliho from Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 10:22:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15018; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:22:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:22:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:08:52 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910011408.KAA29526@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"ofb1L3.0.or2.A2Czt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #132 September 30, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Utah musician Robert Carty. Robert releases his music on his CDR label, Deep Sky Music to critical acclaim. Each CD is individually hand painted by Robert. The feature CD at midnight was Cloud Pull. Robert Carty : http://www.california.com/~eameece/carty.htm EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html Music by Tim Story and Hans-Joachim Roedelius was played in support of The Gathering XX in nearby Philadelphia. Music by Spyra and Airsculpture was played in support of E-Live '99 in Nijmegen, The Netherlands. Both concerts will be on October 9. The Gathering : http://www.starsend.org/20gather.html E-Live '99 : http://www.stichting-crew.nl/elive1999.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================= 11:00 pm Spyra Future of the Past Future of the Past (Manikin) Airsculpture Dark Design Thunderhead (Neu Harmony) Aqueous & Roedelius First Lesson Meeting the Magus (Hermetic) Tim Story More Chains Than Clank In Another Country (Eurock) Richard Bone The Induction of Gilbert Abbott Etherdome (Hypnos) Steve Roach The Reflecting Chamber Light Fantastic (Fathom) dreamSTATE Entre Realites Between Realities (e-Space) 12:00 am Robert Carty Arching Horizon Cloud Pull (Deep Sky Music) Robert Carty The Peeling Sky Cloud Pull (Deep Sky Music) Robert Carty Emergence Cloud Pull (Deep Sky Music) Robert Carty Cycles Cloud Pull (Deep Sky Music) Robert Carty Earth and Air Cloud Pull (Deep Sky Music) Robert Carty Sky Pull Cloud Pull (Deep Sky Music) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will begin a month-long Oktoberfest focus on the German label, Manikin. The Feature CD at Midnight will be "The Two Piece Box" by Detlef Keller and Mario Schonwalder. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 12:46:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16032; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:46:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:46:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910011634.QAA14449@m4.worldnet.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 15:24:34 +0200 Subject: Free loops and tunes From: "Lionel Hubert" To: Looper delight Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"756Bp.0.TG3.uAEzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com KALIKAY home page There is free loops and sounds at : http://www.ifrance.com/kalikay/loops.html And loop oriented only guitar tune at http://www.ifrance.com/kalikay/spool.html please tell what you think about this material. The K -- kalikay entertainment ************************** kalikay@worldnet.fr http://www.ifrance.com/kalikay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 13:54:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31864; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:54:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:54:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F4E857.3DC9518D@home.com> Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:59:09 -0700 From: Neil Goldstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: EDP Loop Start Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Knv8E1.0.K_4.FcEzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I tried using the Loop start button on my 5.0 EDP to change the loop start and nothing happens.

What am I missing?
 

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Neil Goldstein
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  From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 14:05:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02696; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:05:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:05:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000f01bf0c36$9c7bf580$4a23dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <199910011634.QAA14449@m4.worldnet.net> Subject: Experience Project Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:58:35 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"ybSYF3.0.99.3QFzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Folks, we might all want to check this out. Amongst other things that the Experience Music Project site is going to have, is a live Net Jamming page. Hey Ho! Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 14:19:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06733; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:19:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:19:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bf0c36$b3130a40$4a23dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <199910011634.QAA14449@m4.worldnet.net> Subject: Ennh! Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:59:22 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"qyjms.0.oA.TQFzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oops, it's http://www.emplive.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 19:17:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09659; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:17:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:17:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , "'Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com'" Subject: Boston Loopers Collective III, aka Open FauceT Genre PooL #13 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:02:29 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"v9Bi73.0.et1.QyJzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello my loopyfriends. Here's some advance notice of the next Boston Loopers Collective show. I'm on a quest for looping drummers, who I hope to feature for the evening. Any leads? Boston Loopers Collective III, aka Open FauceT Genre PooL #13 Monday, Nov. 8, 1999 (tentative) at 8pm Middle East downstairs (tentative) $6/$5 students & email printout possessors / all ages welcome Guest-produced by yours truely -- loop musicians will provide a night of loopednesses with live video mixing by Dr. T. The trippiest night November will bring. Lineup forthcoming. David Kirkdorffer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 1 19:24:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11134; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:24:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:24:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37F4E857.3DC9518D@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:24:08 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP Loop Start Resent-Message-ID: <"bIqJf1.0.ZM2.v3Kzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I tried using the Loop start button on my 5.0 EDP to change the loop start and nothing happens. What am I missing? you only change the startpoint, so nothing happens immediately. You will note it when using Mute-Insert or Mute-Undo or SamplerStyle=One/Att. those functions will restart the loop from the new StartPoint you have chosen. Also, it case of syncing, its important that the StartPoint coincides with the beat one of the sequencer (or the point where it started... another matter...) ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 2 00:55:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17856; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:55:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 00:55:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201bf0c93$4f67ed00$a15bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:47:08 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"VMmnG3.0.i74.RyOzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Matthias: Toumane Diabate from Mali...they don't need loop machines and play the best ''loop mantras'' in the world. The band usually plays as trio with guitar,kora, ngoni, nguini and marimba. AMAZING MUSIC!!! Julio ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthias Grob To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:39 AM Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? > > >"When do you make a choice NOT to loop?" > > Oh, nice question ;-) > > I guess, most of us have parts without loop in their loop pieces, but they > rather feel like bridges mostly, so thats probably not what we talk about > here... > > I allways had problems with rythms. My music speaks in sound and melody. > I somehow need the loop to keep me steady and leared a lot from it. Brasil > tought me another big lesson. But still, without loop, I tend to > constantely change themes and travel in variations, hardly repeating myself. > For a long time, I thought this was not "serious" music, but more and more > I find it about as interesting as mantric loops. > Where is that need for repeated parts coming from? Isnt it mostly a help to > remember and teach the song? So in an improvisation, you dont need it? > If you want a mantric effect, use a loop to get the strongest effect, if > not, just keep going, tell the story! To do it well is not so easy, but I > am getting better at it, in my candleaccousiticroom. > > Could anyone indicate recorded music of this notreapeatatall kind? > > Matthias > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 2 18:47:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16446; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:47:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:47:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: Zoom 2100 FX sound Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:44:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"O3dm03.0.8p3.zfezt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok, we have heard a lot about the Zoom 2100 looping stuff, but how do the FX sound on it? Any general opinions or comparisons to the Boss ME-30? I am considering a small looping rig to play effected acoustic and electric guitar when I don't want to drag the rack w/ EDP out. I was considering a Boss ME-30 alongside a dedicated looping pedal, like the Headrush or the new Line6 (more $), or just spending the $100 on the Zoom. Any ideas? Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 2 19:33:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24797; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:33:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:33:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:29:14 EDT Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 FX sound To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"TQOql1.0.Sw5.ULfzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Zoom 2100s effects are nothing to sneeze at. They are more servicable, and quiet then some of the whackier and artificial zoom sounds of yon. Yet they are whacky enough -- try the trio on patch nine -- to give a space person something to float on. We repeat...this thing for $99 is the absolute swiss army knife of looping and space twanging. With the accompanying Zoom pedal plugged in as a controller, it's a looping, and effecting menace and makes all those $300 plus pedals seem extravagently obsolete. Plus, it's small enough so that you can put it in your purse. Best, The Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 2 19:50:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28548; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:50:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:50:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:45:43 -0400 To: Matthias Grob From: Michael Tuminello Subject: EDP paranoia Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"_5lPU1.0.Dm6.Tbfzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry - don't mean to feed the paranoia. I'm just (obviously) VERY eager to get my hands on one (without paying a ridiculous eBay price), and have been on the list for probably 6 months or so, and have been hearing the EDP is around the corner the whole time. I'm just about to be in the position to actually buy one, and don't want to wait until 2000 if possible. thanks to you, Kim and Oberheim for coming up with an instrument with such great possibilities. I'm excited to own one. I'm sure those on the list trying to get a hold of one would agree that it's been awfully hard to tell from anyone at Oberheim/Gibson/Opcode WHEN exactly it will possible to purchase a device of this nature from them. A few months ago, Kim sent out a message (which thrilled me) that they would be available in August. It's now October. The Boomerang is in production now, but doesn't have the right capabilities for what I want to do. I would be happy to get those capabilites from whoever wants to manufacture the right device. I'm sure you can understand that. I'll try to refrain from feeding the paranoia, but it would help to hear a hard date from the people at Oberheim... Thanks, Michael > >>Hey Boomerang - >> >>Since Oberheim is apparently never going to make another EDP, why don't you >>guys come up with something with a little better sound quality that stores >>multiple loops and does a few other of the important EDP tricks. Maybe have >>Kim and Mattheus help you out with the software. Then we can buy one of >>those >>instead of growing old waiting for the next EDP. > >You may have missed my "EDP production" mail... >Please stop feeding paranoia that EDP is not made any more. It IS, they are >working on it NOW, only its name will change, and it will be CE tested and >distributed in Europe, and maybe get an improved software ;-) > >But, yes, some joint venture for a future unit is a possibility to discuss... > >Matthias From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 2 20:20:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01867; Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:20:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:20:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:15:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP paranoia Resent-Message-ID: <"YZrdl2.0.rC.31gzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:45 PM -0700 10/2/99, Michael Tuminello wrote: >Sorry - don't mean to feed the paranoia. I'm just (obviously) VERY eager >to get my hands on one (without paying a ridiculous eBay price), and have >been on the list for probably 6 months or so, and have been hearing the EDP >is around the corner the whole time. I'm just about to be in the position >to actually buy one, and don't want to wait until 2000 if possible. > >thanks to you, Kim and Oberheim for coming up with an instrument with such >great possibilities. I'm excited to own one. I'm sure those on the list >trying to get a hold of one would agree that it's been awfully hard to tell >from anyone at Oberheim/Gibson/Opcode WHEN exactly it will possible to >purchase a device of this nature from them. A few months ago, Kim sent out >a message (which thrilled me) that they would be available in August. It's >now October. The Boomerang is in production now, but doesn't have the >right capabilities for what I want to do. I would be happy to get those >capabilites from whoever wants to manufacture the right device. I'm sure >you can understand that. I'll try to refrain from feeding the paranoia, >but it would help to hear a hard date from the people at Oberheim... > Gibson has been saying for many months that they will have units available in the Fall. (which just started....). They'll tell you that if you call them, and that info has been posted to the list many times. Sorry if my guess of August from a while back turned out to be a bit optimistic and confused you. I'm not their spokesman, if you want accurate info call them up and ask or send them an email. No need to sit around freaking out! There's no doubt they are committed to continuing Echoplex production. I believe they just want to be certain they have everything well organized and done right. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 00:54:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA27682; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:54:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:54:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <26f063eb.25282f56@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:02:30 EDT Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 FX sound To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"3tL7g2.0.PE3.oLjzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the sounds on the zoom are quiet serviceable and very tweakable......i have used it for guitar, i would guess its primary use but i have found it is a lot of fun with a drum machine and also sending synth and vocal signals thru it......i have had mine for a few weeks now and am continuing to be more than happy with learning all that i can do with it.......it is very quiet.......the 3 (5sec) loops are fun, i had a friend play some blues licks and i worked the loops, it got to the point where the loops could be used by themselves without anymore input, it was weird but it worked......i am not familiar with the boss unit, so i can not speak to its abilities, sorry.........but for $99.00 i think it ( the zoom) is a great deal.....also, the 6 sec delay is pretty nice also.......my only gripe is the differences between the volumes of the patches, does anyone have a fix for this or must i rewrite the indivdual volumes and save them?........hope this helps.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 10:37:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29382; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:37:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:37:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <26f063eb.25282f56@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:30:20 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 FX sound & Volume Problems Resent-Message-ID: <"YCkTr.0.vu6.Laszt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 10/3/99 nmoguitt wrote: ......my only gripe is the differences >between the volumes of the patches, does anyone have a fix for this or must i >rewrite the indivdual volumes and save them?........hope this >helps.........michael Michael, I do not have this box, but have frequently emcountered this scenario even on very high end effects boxes.... start re writing.... Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 10:37:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29396; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:37:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:37:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F7679A.40BFC6E1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:26:34 -0400 From: "roguemus@ix.netcom.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Jamman and Digitech RDS8000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NzqtS3.0.Sr6.KYszt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Selling to the high bid at http://www.auctionsoup.com Jamman, Ends 10/4 at 1:30 PM EDT, current high bid $355 Digitech RDS8000 ends 10/5 at 2:44 PM EDT, current high bid $125 Please visit the site Dick Michaels Rogue Music NYC http://www.roguemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 11:17:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05196; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:17:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:17:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <37F771F3.7459@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 11:10:43 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 FX sound & Volume Problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8fCm_1.0.X21.MAtzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Patrick Smith wrote: > > On 10/3/99 nmoguitt wrote: > > ......my only gripe is the differences > >between the volumes of the patches, does anyone have a fix for this or must i > >rewrite the indivdual volumes and save them?........hope this > >helps.........michael > > Michael, > > I do not have this box, but have frequently emcountered this scenario even > on very high end effects boxes.... start re writing.... > > Patrick > Fingerpaint's New Release: > > IN THE LOOP > > ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and > obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. > > DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 > > http://www.fingerpaint.net Yes, I agree with Patrick. I have a 2100, and I had to re-write to even out the patches. Z. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 12:31:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18330; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:31:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:31:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F7AAB1.B22683F0@gte.net> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 12:12:50 -0700 From: nitesh patel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? References: <000201bf0c93$4f67ed00$a15bdfc8@doutor> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dlqJa.0.qh3._2uzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com if you wanna be in 1975 you don't loop but with technology today there's absolutely no reason not to loop and use patterns created by your self through your sequencer wether it's souned forge4.5 or cakewalk diffrent versions hgave the number of patterns you =can sequence or loop with your better of using l;oops asv your loop will always be on time will your guatrist? Julio Moreno wrote: > Matthias: Toumane Diabate from Mali...they don't need loop machines > and play the best ''loop mantras'' in the world. The band usually plays as > trio with guitar,kora, ngoni, nguini and marimba. AMAZING MUSIC!!! > Julio > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matthias Grob > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:39 AM > Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? > > > > > >"When do you make a choice NOT to loop?" > > > > Oh, nice question ;-) > > > > I guess, most of us have parts without loop in their loop pieces, but they > > rather feel like bridges mostly, so thats probably not what we talk about > > here... > > > > I allways had problems with rythms. My music speaks in sound and melody. > > I somehow need the loop to keep me steady and leared a lot from it. Brasil > > tought me another big lesson. But still, without loop, I tend to > > constantely change themes and travel in variations, hardly repeating > myself. > > For a long time, I thought this was not "serious" music, but more and more > > I find it about as interesting as mantric loops. > > Where is that need for repeated parts coming from? Isnt it mostly a help > to > > remember and teach the song? So in an improvisation, you dont need it? > > If you want a mantric effect, use a loop to get the strongest effect, if > > not, just keep going, tell the story! To do it well is not so easy, but I > > am getting better at it, in my candleaccousiticroom. > > > > Could anyone indicate recorded music of this notreapeatatall kind? > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 17:48:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14029; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:48:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:48:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991003214344.006ef9ec@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 23:43:44 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? Resent-Message-ID: <"g56sw2.0.WA3.luyzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12.12 03/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >if you wanna be in 1975 you don't loop but with technology today there's >absolutely no reason not to loop and use patterns created by your self through >your sequencer wether it's souned forge4.5 or cakewalk diffrent versions hgave >the number of patterns you =can sequence or loop with your better of using >l;oops asv your loop will always be on time will your guatrist? > ???? leo >Julio Moreno wrote: > >> Matthias: Toumane Diabate from Mali...they don't need loop machines >> and play the best ''loop mantras'' in the world. The band usually plays as >> trio with guitar,kora, ngoni, nguini and marimba. AMAZING MUSIC!!! >> Julio >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Matthias Grob >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:39 AM >> Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? >> >> > >> > >"When do you make a choice NOT to loop?" >> > >> > Oh, nice question ;-) >> > >> > I guess, most of us have parts without loop in their loop pieces, but they >> > rather feel like bridges mostly, so thats probably not what we talk about >> > here... >> > >> > I allways had problems with rythms. My music speaks in sound and melody. >> > I somehow need the loop to keep me steady and leared a lot from it. Brasil >> > tought me another big lesson. But still, without loop, I tend to >> > constantely change themes and travel in variations, hardly repeating >> myself. >> > For a long time, I thought this was not "serious" music, but more and more >> > I find it about as interesting as mantric loops. >> > Where is that need for repeated parts coming from? Isnt it mostly a help >> to >> > remember and teach the song? So in an improvisation, you dont need it? >> > If you want a mantric effect, use a loop to get the strongest effect, if >> > not, just keep going, tell the story! To do it well is not so easy, but I >> > am getting better at it, in my candleaccousiticroom. >> > >> > Could anyone indicate recorded music of this notreapeatatall kind? >> > >> > Matthias >> > >> > >> > >> > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org >> > >> > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 18:44:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24700; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:44:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:44:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991003184439.007a3100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 18:44:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? In-Reply-To: <37F7AAB1.B22683F0@gte.net> References: <000201bf0c93$4f67ed00$a15bdfc8@doutor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"r5PYR1.0.SS5.Rdzzt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think you've misunderstood David Kirkdorffer's original question. He's not asking "Should one ever loop?", but rather, "As a musician who DOES take advantage of the available technology, under what specific circumstances does one make the CHOICE to refrain from looping?", a big difference. I think most, if not all, of us on this list would agree with you that we're better off looping, but recognizing that the looping community manifests a considerable range of approaches, David's question is ideally suited to discussion in such a forum. It is by comparing and contrasting our respective loop techniques, and by getting a feel for the role looping plays in the context of our overall musicianship that we learn and grow. The proportion of looped and unlooped playing varies amongst us for a variety of reasons, and David felt that this warranted discussion. You're right, there is absolutely no reason not to loop, but sometimes there are very good reasons not to loop 100% of the time, and this is what David was addressing. BTW, Brian Eno's "Discreet Music" was recorded in 1975. Steve Reich and Terry Riley were looping more than a decade before that, and Stockhausen was heading in that direction with his layered and manipulated tape loops as long ago as 1956 (Gesang der Junglinge), so it's not really a question of whether one needs the latest technology. Looping's not new; the gear's just getting a lot better. But that wasn't what Mr. Kirkdorffer was asking. Tim At 12:12 PM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >if you wanna be in 1975 you don't loop but with technology today there's >absolutely no reason not to loop and use patterns created by your self through >your sequencer wether it's souned forge4.5 or cakewalk diffrent versions hgave >the number of patterns you =can sequence or loop with your better of using >l;oops asv your loop will always be on time will your guatrist? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 3 23:31:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14964; Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:31:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:31:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <384349530.939007566677.JavaMail.root@web10.pub01> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 23:26:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Thomson, London UK" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Korg DL8000R Delay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 146.101.131.158 Resent-Message-ID: <"GA_4W1.0.iM3.qv1-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi there - I'm the guy who originally promised to post something about the DL8000R, but never got around to it. (Actually, I did write a huge detailed document on it, but thought it would be too much for the list.) It's basically a 2-in, 2-out delay, with hi/lo eq and two delay sections per channel (400ms pre-delay and 4800ms main delay). Each main delay section has four taps, tap four being the "feedback tap". Each tap on each channel (plus direct signals) outputs to a mixer section, with pan and level control for each, then out in stereo. In addition, the feedback taps have feedback level (in dB) and hi/lo damping eq, and can be directed back to their own channel (normal) or the other channel (cross-delay). For setting delay times, it operates in either a MS (millisecond) mode or a Tempo mode (bpm). In Tempo mode, the rhythmic facilities are very strong indeed, with the ability to sync to MIDI sync, or generate it according the delay tempo of the program. The tempo can also be picked up from input signal peaks (if you set the level threshold correctly). The times of all four taps per channel can be set using a "beat pattern" facility, and a multiplier/divider ratio applied to the tempo. Tempo is in quarter-notes, as you would expect, so with Tempo set to 120, a ratio of 1/4 gives you 1/16 notes at 120 = 125ms, while a ratio of 4 gives you a whole note (4/4) = 2000ms. The slowest tempo selectable from the panel is 50, and the longest ratio = 4, which works out to 4800ms per channel. For example, the "ten second delay" is derived from left input -> left 400ms delay -> left 4800ms delay -> right 4800ms delay -> both outputs. Most other combinations are possible too. I enjoy playing with a 9600ms cross delay, with a very light decay and damping eq. What confused me a little at first is the way varying delay times are handled. Unlike other loopers I've heard and read about, the internal operating speed is fixed at 48kHz, from inputs to outputs. This has its advantages, such as zero internal noise from conversions, but it means some "standard" looping effects are impossible. As an analogy, think of the DL8000R as two tape loops that run at a permanently fixed speed, each with a write head and four read heads. Each read head can be moved individually, but the loop speed never changes. When you change the delay time (statically or dynamically), you're moving the head(s) only. Whilst doing so, the frequency/speed of the output changes, but once you stop moving, the speed is back to normal again. You can't record at one speed and play back at another continously, as I've heard e.g. DTorn doing with his Lexicons. Each head's delay time can be controlled dynamically, as can numerous other parameters such as levels and LFO, by LFO, MIDI or 1 foot-controller. With LFO controlling a simple short delay time, the result is a "warped record" effect that makes me seasick. The presets include various chorus and flange effects too. The foot controller I have (Bespeco) has quite short travel and makes it sensitive - a slight slip can send all 8 taps reeling and leave warped blips in the delay lines if you aren't careful. Unlike DavidK, I don't find it noisy at all, but maybe I got lucky. It has 48kHz convertors, with unbalanced connectors, and the eqs work well. A setting of 0dB feedback level results in genuine infinite delay with no loss at all - I've left it looping for hours this way. I don't think many were built, or maybe the serial no. on mine (0000240) is just a fluke. I haven't used it in earnest, but I would be happy to do so now I know its limitations. Likes: - good sync capabilities - great fun with sequencer / drum machine for dub effects - sound quality good IMHO - inexpensive compared to, well everything else - huge display - very visible, brightness controllable - "purist" delay - nearly everything is controllable Dislikes: - time / tempo display doesn't reflect changes resulting from real-time control. - fixed speed loop (as above) - delay time only 9600ms, not upgradeable - "line lump" PSU Cheers, Brian Thomson, London UK bnt@email.com ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 00:59:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA11828; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:59:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 00:59:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Jam Man Midi Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 21:19:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf0e1f$9a48caa0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0DE4.EDF193C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"MJpSM2.0.jI2._93-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0DE4.EDF193C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all- I have a question for any Jam Man users here- I use my Jam Man to trigger and sync my drum machine- It seems my Jam Man is a bit sluggish now- when I hit the loop switch the triggered drum machine and the loop are just a bit off- I remember it working perfectly well before- but I fiddled with the midi settings in the Jam Man and wonder if I need to re set or something- the drums are juuuust behing the loop- most irritating- any suggestions are most appreciated- Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0DE4.EDF193C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = all- I have a=20 question for any Jam Man users here-
I use = my  Jam=20 Man to trigger and sync my drum machine- It seems my Jam Man is a = bit=20 sluggish now- when I hit the loop switch the triggered drum machine and = the loop=20 are just a bit off- I remember it working perfectly well before- but I = fiddled=20 with the midi settings in the Jam Man and wonder if I need to re set or=20 something- the drums are juuuust behing the loop- most irritating- any=20 suggestions are most appreciated-
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0DE4.EDF193C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 01:31:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20756; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:31:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:31:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910040515.WAA22506@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 22:18:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Korg DL8000R Delay From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"MtSBT1.0.vr3.HU3-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If U don't have a Lexicon PCM42 w/ expanded memory or a PDS 8000 or an 'original'electro harmonix 16 sec. delay you will never be able to record @ 1 speed and then playback @ different speed (like I do) then you are basically f- ouled up as to applying this type of program to your LOOPS- sez me-...stanner... ---------- >From: "Brian Thomson, London UK" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Korg DL8000R Delay >Date: Sun, Oct 3, 1999, 8:26 PM > > Hi there - I'm the guy who originally promised to post something about the > DL8000R, but never got around to it. (Actually, I did write a huge detailed > document on it, but thought it would be too much for the list.) > > It's basically a 2-in, 2-out delay, with hi/lo eq and two delay sections > per channel (400ms pre-delay and 4800ms main delay). > > Each main delay section has four taps, tap four being the "feedback tap". > Each tap on each channel (plus direct signals) outputs to a mixer section, > with pan and level control for each, then out in stereo. In addition, the > feedback taps have feedback level (in dB) and hi/lo damping eq, and can be > directed back to their own channel (normal) or the other channel (cross-delay). > > For setting delay times, it operates in either a MS (millisecond) mode or a > Tempo mode (bpm). In Tempo mode, the rhythmic facilities are very strong > indeed, with the ability to sync to MIDI sync, or generate it according the > delay tempo of the program. The tempo can also be picked up from input > signal peaks (if you set the level threshold correctly). The times of all > four taps per channel can be set using a "beat pattern" facility, and a > multiplier/divider ratio applied to the tempo. Tempo is in quarter-notes, > as you would expect, so with Tempo set to 120, a ratio of 1/4 gives you > 1/16 notes at 120 = 125ms, while a ratio of 4 gives you a whole note (4/4) > = 2000ms. The slowest tempo selectable from the panel is 50, and the > longest ratio = 4, which works out to 4800ms per channel. > > For example, the "ten second delay" is derived from left input -> left > 400ms delay -> left 4800ms delay -> right 4800ms delay -> both outputs. > Most other combinations are possible too. I enjoy playing with a 9600ms > cross delay, with a very light decay and damping eq. > > What confused me a little at first is the way varying delay times are > handled. Unlike other loopers I've heard and read about, the internal > operating speed is fixed at 48kHz, from inputs to outputs. This has its > advantages, such as zero internal noise from conversions, but it means some > "standard" looping effects are impossible. As an analogy, think of the > DL8000R as two tape loops that run at a permanently fixed speed, each with > a write head and four read heads. Each read head can be moved individually, > but the loop speed never changes. When you change the delay time > (statically or dynamically), you're moving the head(s) only. Whilst doing > so, the frequency/speed of the output changes, but once you stop moving, > the speed is back to normal again. You can't record at one speed and play > back at another continously, as I've heard e.g. DTorn doing with his Lexicons. > > Each head's delay time can be controlled dynamically, as can numerous other > parameters such as levels and LFO, by LFO, MIDI or 1 foot-controller. With > LFO controlling a simple short delay time, the result is a "warped record" > effect that makes me seasick. The presets include various chorus and flange > effects too. The foot controller I have (Bespeco) has quite short travel > and makes it sensitive - a slight slip can send all 8 taps reeling and > leave warped blips in the delay lines if you aren't careful. > > Unlike DavidK, I don't find it noisy at all, but maybe I got lucky. It has > 48kHz convertors, with unbalanced connectors, and the eqs work well. A > setting of 0dB feedback level results in genuine infinite delay with no > loss at all - I've left it looping for hours this way. I don't think many > were built, or maybe the serial no. on mine (0000240) is just a fluke. I > haven't used it in earnest, but I would be happy to do so now I know its > limitations. > > Likes: > - good sync capabilities - great fun with sequencer / drum machine for dub effects > - sound quality good IMHO > - inexpensive compared to, well everything else > - huge display - very visible, brightness controllable > - "purist" delay - nearly everything is controllable > > Dislikes: > - time / tempo display doesn't reflect changes resulting from real-time control. > - fixed speed loop (as above) > - delay time only 9600ms, not upgradeable > - "line lump" PSU > > Cheers, > > Brian Thomson, London UK > bnt@email.com > ----------------------------------------------- > FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com > Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 06:58:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA17243; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:58:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:58:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F88651.D22650F1@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:49:53 +0200 From: Stephen Parsick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Digitec Big Foot? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"clqcJ1.0.u_3.rS8-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, recently, I purchased a rather obscure and really weird looking delay pedal at a music fleamarket. It was manufactured by a Japanese firm named DIGITEC (not DOD/Digitech) and it is called BIG FOOT. Iīd say it dates back to the mid-eighties as it has similar knobs as the 9.5" rack series by Boss. The pedal itself features a simple loop delay (about 2,048 ms maximum delay time) with modulation, it has stereo (phase-inverted) outputs and apparently it can be triggered externally (it also has two footswitches, one for bypass, the other for record/hold) but I still couldnīt figure whether it can be clocked externally or whether the loop in the memory can be triggered for one-shot playback. Does anybody on this list happen to know this device? What can be done with it apart from getting really wild industrial noises from it (mayhem ad nauseam alert!!! ;-))? And what are current going prices for it? Anyway, I began to realize what weird kind of shit can be gotten out of a 16 Second Digital Delay. The only thing the BIG FOOT doesnīt do is reversing echoes/loops, but the modulation feature produces absolutely sea-sick effects like the ones I heard emerging from a 16 SDD. Anybody wants to swap ;-)? If anybody on this list can help me any further, please contact me privately. Thanks in advance, Stephen. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 07:21:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20954; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:21:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:21:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:46:42 EDT Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"00IiM1.0.jm3.6N8-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i loop when i have my looping rig with me and i don't when i don't. if i am going over to someone's house to jam i usually just bring my gtr and a small amp. if i am performing or recording i bring everything. if i am playing around the house it depends what room i am in. if i am not in my studio i don't loop because i don't feel like carting around the rack and mixer. laziness has a lot to do with whether i loop or not. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 09:41:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16231; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:41:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:41:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:32:22 +0100 (BST) From: JF Carter To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"lsPhF2.0.7f3.YoA-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I agree with the list-members who suggest that whether you loop or not is more a matter of availability than desirability. How many times has a "predictable" musical situation suddenly changed direction and left itself wide open for a loop (or two)? Wouldn't it be great to have every bit of kit available at every event from a bedroom jam to a big gig? Equally wouldn't it be great if every bit of kit could be patched together in any order whenever needed? So for any jam or gig I have to decide what to take by way of instruments, amps and effects. I guess this is a bit like loading the pod on Thunderbird 2. Inspiration might be a bit like lightning striking (according to Robert Fripp anyway) but if you ain't wired for it it won't do you any good. So, isn't music/looping like every other form of employment - "you do the best job you can with what's available in the time available"? or is this too "workmanlike" in approach? Jim Carter University of Bristol Cantock's Close Bristol UK Tel. (44) 117 9289934 FAX (44) 117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 10:14:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23761; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:14:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:14:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991004140216.18843.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: mt@motiontek.com Subject: Re:EDP Paranoia To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"I7n4V1.0.KB5.gDB-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok - I will control my dissemination of EDP paranoia until the end of the fall. (Can anyone tell me what the first day of winter is?) :-) MT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 11:47:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13629; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:47:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:47:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <37F8C041.68C1@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 10:57:05 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Blowjob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6Vevt.0.IX.a3C-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I realize that this was brought up some time ago, but I'm in need of a definitive answer. Is it, or is it not, a safe practice to put larger than 1/4 amp fuses in the EDP? Mine continues to go through the 1/4's(both fast and slow blow), like it's on a mission. Thanks. Z. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 11:44:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12745; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:44:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:44:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:11:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991003184439.007a3100@pop.ici.net> References: <37F7AAB1.B22683F0@gte.net> <000201bf0c93$4f67ed00$a15bdfc8@doutor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"ceoVd3.0.qS1.2HC-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi everyone -I think this is a most important topic (i wanted to ask it myself a while back ) I think the practice of using it because its there is not what David had in mind -after all (speaking for myself) I a musician who uses loops as a tool to get results not available otherwise.Not a looper who tries to fit in with any context I'm placed in I've played many shows where i brought my loop gear but dint rely on it - maybe that has a lot to do with density of the music -who I'm playing with musical direction..etc a few things I've observed - i have created some truly remarkable music using looping with only a capable drummer someone who can get inside of the loop & circle it at the same time interaction like that is beauty -beauty is a rare thing-- in a group situation : if the other participants dont get what I'm doing -the music will suffer any attempts to loop my way to success wont work if theres no empathy looping is a tool -it isn't necessary that i do it all the time -if the music doesn't call for it there are things in music ,in sound -space, dynamics that looping cannot give me I'm not saying i cant have space in loops etc-- i like making an intelligent de scion when to deploy or not as Tim pointed out,and i agree -how we approach the choice of not looping says a lot about how we loop & our ideas toward creation of music great topic K At 06:44 PM 10/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >I think you've misunderstood David Kirkdorffer's original question. He's >not asking "Should one ever loop?", but rather, "As a musician who DOES >take advantage of the available technology, under what specific >circumstances does one make the CHOICE to refrain from looping?", a big >difference. I think most, if not all, of us on this list would agree with >you that we're better off looping, but recognizing that the looping >community manifests a considerable range of approaches, David's question is >ideally suited to discussion in such a forum. It is by comparing and >contrasting our respective loop techniques, and by getting a feel for the >role looping plays in the context of our overall musicianship that we learn >and grow. The proportion of looped and unlooped playing varies amongst us >for a variety of reasons, and David felt that this warranted discussion. >You're right, there is absolutely no reason not to loop, but sometimes >there are very good reasons not to loop 100% of the time, and this is what >David was addressing. > >BTW, Brian Eno's "Discreet Music" was recorded in 1975. Steve Reich and >Terry Riley were looping more than a decade before that, and Stockhausen >was heading in that direction with his layered and manipulated tape loops >as long ago as 1956 (Gesang der Junglinge), so it's not really a question >of whether one needs the latest technology. Looping's not new; the gear's >just getting a lot better. But that wasn't what Mr. Kirkdorffer was asking. > >Tim > >At 12:12 PM 10/3/99 -0700, you wrote: >>if you wanna be in 1975 you don't loop but with technology today there's >>absolutely no reason not to loop and use patterns created by your self >through >>your sequencer wether it's souned forge4.5 or cakewalk diffrent versions >hgave >>the number of patterns you =can sequence or loop with your better of using >>l;oops asv your loop will always be on time will your guatrist? > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 12:52:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28556; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:52:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:52:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , "'Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com'" Subject: Looking for Electric Drummers Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:31:12 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"XWLnV3.0.m96.wVD-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Are there ANY electric drummers on the loopers' delight mailing list at all? > I'm on a quest for looping drummers, who I hope to feature for the > evening. Any leads? > > Boston Loopers Collective III, aka Open FauceT Genre PooL #13 > Monday, Nov. 8, 1999 (tentative) at 8pm > Middle East downstairs (tentative) > $6/$5 students & email printout possessors / all ages welcome > Guest-produced by yours truely -- loop musicians will provide a night of > loopednesses with live video mixing by Dr. T. The trippiest night November > will bring. Lineup forthcoming. > David Kirkdorffer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 13:33:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06809; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:33:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:33:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006701bf0e8b$f9726510$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Looking for Electric Drummers Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:14:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"3ItXF3.0.tS.s1E-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What do you mean by "electric drummers?" Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: David Kirkdorffer To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' ; 'Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com' Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 11:55 AM Subject: Looking for Electric Drummers >Are there ANY electric drummers on the loopers' delight mailing list at all? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 13:33:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06997; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:33:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:33:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: AAarons107@aol.com Message-ID: <72a994c3.252a3b0a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:16:58 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 27 Resent-Message-ID: <"HnKoi2.0.Vb.w4E-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am having trouble getting a jamman to respond to program changes. I am using the original software with a memory upgrade. MIDI sync from my Ensoniq MR61 Keyboard works fine if I am transmitting clock. When I attempt to send program change commands in addtion to the clock signal the jamman either refuses to respond or starts recording then stopping when it receives program change 000 or 001. I have hooked up a midi mouse to the jamman and it accepts program changes with no problem. But when I try to use send program change and midi clock from the MR I'm stuck. Is there the usual obvious answer staring me in the face that I don't see now? AA From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 13:39:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08713; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:39:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:39:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991004123235.007caa80@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:32:35 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"RHLDC2.0.2k1._JE-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Great question. I've found that it's extremely hard to use any rhythmic loops in a setting where a drummer's who's not tuned in (or at least has a great monitoring system for the loop...) is involved. In many situations like this, I choose either to not loop at all--or to create loops that are more vague and on top of the music and beats. As I've seen in other posts, it's really, really a rare thing to have a drummer who can lock in with the loops--or even play creatively inside and outside of them. Luckily, I'm playing with one of those rare cases right now... Many of the pieces I'm working on and recording at the moment don't involve any looping. I generally just play it by ear as to whether or not to use loops in the music I'm creating. For just about every gig, I'll have my entire setup available. But, many times, I won't use any looping. At other times, I think I may have done nothing but loop and pile on loops. So, I'd say that I do not loop only when the mood hits me! Lately, it's been a 50/50 type of thing. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I make sure that the capability to loop is always there, however--and that's a nice thing to know in any performance situation for me. Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 14:00:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14015; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:00:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:00:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F8E8F1.DCDE076C@minds-eye.org> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 13:50:42 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Electirc drummers/when to not loop/etc. References: <3.0.6.32.19991004123235.007caa80@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dWJ023.0.As2.7aE-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From my understanding, Pat Mastelotto (spelling?) currently of King Crimson has been experimenting with looping his drumming and playing along with that and re-looping the results, etc. Combine this with Robert Fripp and Trey Gunn and you have Projekct 3. You can learn more of this by visiting the discipline global mobile site if so inclined (I have yet to hear these recordings but I'd like to) http://www.disciplineglobalmobile.com I think Trey Gunn's diary has some mention of the work as well http://www.treygunn.com/road.html around the march 1999 entries Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 15:02:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30107; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:02:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:02:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.77d954e5.252a507c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:48:28 EDT Subject: to loop or not to loop To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"cmY8t2.0.tR6.gQF-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the only way i will stop looping is if you pull my cold dead toe off of my rang...................:)...........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 16:12:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA14973; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:12:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:12:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37F90730.79D65D02@webms.com> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:59:44 -0700 From: paul buelow Organization: WebMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? References: <3.0.6.32.19991004123235.007caa80@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AtGHE1.0.Oa2.4PG-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I joined the list a short time ago. I have appreciated the good humor, resources and helpful tips to making music found here. Question - What other ways are there to trigger and maintain a loop 'note on' then trigger a 'note off' when a new note is triggered? Basically I want to trigger a loop and play along on the drums without holding the key or a sustain pedal then trigger a new loop on a new downbeat or cancel the loop. I have been learning to loop and drum along for a while-one note at a time. I used to play along with the program (David Z. wrote it I think) with pattern based sequencing and also I've used max. Lately, I use live miked drums with the mixing boards mic direct outs triggering a DM4 drum module. I trigger drum loop samples setup in a S-760 and phrases in a Mirage that I trigger from a smaller keyboard near the drumset. S I fade in and out of these loop options and play along with other musicians. Sustain pedals keep the loops going or I can hold a key down and play drums with one hand? The setup requires a few foot pedals to move through patches and change volume or I have to turn the sampler/synth knobs while I play (argh). The monitor mix tends to usually be fine for me (since I set it) and that's probably why playing with loops works for me. I don't loop as often when I play along with acoustic musicians. We usually play 3 songs with loops then 3 songs without loops. The contrast is nice to explore. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 17:15:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30697; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:15:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:15:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002d01bf0eac$50292220$466fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: Looking for Electric Drummers Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:06:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"RCarI3.0.c97.AUH-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Are there ANY electric drummers on the loopers' delight mailing list at all?" YEP. my name is Dave, I live in kentucky USA. I use a Zendrum through a Alesis dm4 and am currently upgrading to a dm pro(what a total headache to program this thing). As far as looping i use a boomerang. the sample rate is still to low to do live but i keep practicing in hopes of the promised upgrade. the main thing i work with in regards to looping is laying down a foundation tract and let it loop. secondly i add percussion. after that i pick up my strat and start playing. i hope to do this live with both instruments on. IE we the upgrade comes out. I refuse to use any other sampler at this time. the boomerang is SO SIMPLE to use i could imagine trying to use any other machine. as far as not being midi capable that is just fine with me, who needs that 1960's headache. postaldave@qx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 17:21:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32054; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:21:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:21:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003d01bf0eac$ef129740$466fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: to loop or not to loop Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:10:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"9kqXu1.0.jJ7.JYH-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "the only way i will stop looping is if you pull my cold dead toe off of my rang...................:).........." .michael wouldn't that in fact start the boomerang looping.lol there is no hope for you. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 19:32:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29675; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:32:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:32:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991004232152.006bdee4@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 01:21:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Looking for Electric Drummers Resent-Message-ID: <"MsPBy.0.ea6.eQJ-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I make electronic beats but I'm not a drummer at all... ;) ciao leo At 12.14 04/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >What do you mean by "electric drummers?" > >Dennis Leas >----------------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Kirkdorffer >To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' ; >'Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com' >Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 11:55 AM >Subject: Looking for Electric Drummers > > >>Are there ANY electric drummers on the loopers' delight mailing list at >all? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 22:06:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30868; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:06:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:06:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doug@pop.lightlink.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37F90730.79D65D02@webms.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19991004123235.007caa80@pop.mindspring.com> <37F90730.79D65D02@webms.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:40:52 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"x5pTo2.0.1p6.LfL-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:59 -0700 10/4/99, paul buelow wrote: > I joined the list a short time ago. I have appreciated > the good humor, resources and helpful tips to making > music found here. > > Question - What other ways are there to trigger and > maintain a loop 'note on' then trigger a 'note off' when > a new note is triggered? Hi Paul, I control my Roland S-760 sampler with a Peavey PC-1600. I've programmed some buttons to generate a note-on when pressed, then a note-off when pressed again. Simple, but it requires remembering which notes are playing so that they can be shut off. For example, I'll press button 1 to start one loop, then press buttons 1 & 2 simultaneously to stop the first loop and start another. If the S-760 responds to All Notes Off (I'd have to try it to see), then it'd be possible to make some buttons send , with one more button that sends all notes off. I guess it's the difference between monophonic and polyphonic :) Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 4 22:36:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05157; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:36:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:36:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991004223029.007aaa30@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 22:30:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Funky looping drummers/MIDI question In-Reply-To: <37F90730.79D65D02@webms.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19991004123235.007caa80@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9VsRi2.0.Nt.dBM-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Paul's comments remind me of a question I've wanted to ask for a few months now. A while ago, I was playing with a drummer who'd never played with a looper before (and yes, there were the usual monitoring issues which we remedied by creative cabinet placement). I guess my enthusiasm must have been contagious, 'cause he wanted to know a lot more about the possibility of looping himself. Specifically, he wanted to know if it was possible to connect MIDI drum pads to a looper to do WITH HIS STICKS what the rest of us do with our feet. He wants to keep his feet on his hi-hat and kick drum pedals and his sticks in his hands. He DOESN'T want to play one-handed or have a bunch of non-drum pedals. (Using a mixer and miked acoustic drums; the pads would only be used to punch in and out of the looper, and not as an electronic sound source. I think he had some twisted idea involving the MIDI outs on a cheap little Yamaha DD-5 that he had jammed into his eccentric Bruford-meets-Evelyn Glennie-in-Fred Sanford's-junkyard setup somewhere between the sawblades and the fire alarm bell. Yikes. I have no idea what kind of looping device he'd set his evil mind on...) Since I don't use MIDI, I was unable to satisfactorily answer his question; do any of you have any experience with this sort of thing? And if you do and live anywhere near Boston, give David Kirkdorffer a shout! He needs looping percussionists! And if you're north of there and want to jam, give ME a shout! Tim >Paul wrote: Question - What other ways are there to trigger and >maintain a loop 'note on' then trigger a 'note off' when >a new note is triggered? > >Basically I want to trigger a loop and play along on the >drums without holding the key or a sustain pedal then >trigger a new loop on a new downbeat or cancel the loop. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 01:15:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10269; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:15:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:15:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:08:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers Subject: Re: YAMAHA SU10 DIGITAL PHRASE SAMPLER In-Reply-To: <000301bf0789$92ff92c0$df6ec8d0@computer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"jen-E.0.-E2.6WO-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have one. It's pretty decent for what it is. I don't use the touch ribbon stuff that much, but I use it a lot. The only thing I would want on it would be multiple outs, but for it's price it's definitely worth it. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, postaldave wrote: > YAMAHA SU10 DIGITAL PHRASE SAMPLER , is this a good sampler, anyone have > one?????? > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 04:26:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12381; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 04:26:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 04:26:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:17:57 +0100 (BST) From: JF Carter To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Electirc drummers/Pat Mastelotto. In-Reply-To: <37F8E8F1.DCDE076C@minds-eye.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"x5_Bo2.0.se2.DIR-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I received the ProjecKt Four CD last week (Fripp/Levin/Gunn/Mast..) listening to it and look at the picture of the drum kit I get the impression that Matelotto is using a Roland MC303 to generate drum loops. The 1st track (heavy construction) also has a very "squelchy" synth(?) loop which sounds very much the sort of thing I generate with my Electribe so I assume an MC303 can do the same. Anyone else heard this CD? Jim Carter Bristol UK Tel. (44) 117 9289934 FAX (44) 117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 05:11:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA19800; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 05:11:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 05:11:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002d01bf0eac$50292220$466fc8d0@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:04:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Looking for Electric Drummers Resent-Message-ID: <"ceYaG3.0.XZ4.IyR-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 2:06 PM -0700 10/4/99, postaldave wrote: > as far as not being midi capable that is >just fine with me, who needs that 1960's headache. actually an 80's headache using 60's tech. That's the music biz: "Yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices" kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 09:18:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA32755; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:18:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:18:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:04:58 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: shamless gig announcement In-Reply-To: <002d01bf0eac$50292220$466fc8d0@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"jQWC42.0.0M7.bSV-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello - to anyone in NYC area Ill be performing at Tonic Wed Oct 6 Metallic soundscapes -improvisation featuring guests Alan Licht & Dean Roberts 1000pm -after Rafael Toral & Loren Mazzacane Connors http://www.tonic107.com/eventsframe.cfm?category=1&midnight=6 also be at Down Town Music Gallery sun octt10 -700pm hope to see anyone there ---K From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 09:39:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05563; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:39:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:39:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991005093749.00814430@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:37:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Psycho-Looping in Philly..with Looped Drums!! In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19991003214344.006ef9ec@mail.dada.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"QRjhn2.0.2y.luV-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello all... come join JFK's LSD UFO as we play our first Philly gig. In fact 1st Penns. gig Anyone in Philly or S. jersey?? hope you can make it out. It promises to be a very Psychedelic nite - >>> Anyway - come on down - the other 2 bands are supposedly the stuff of Philly legend, and one of them opened for Roger Waters on his recent tour, and are described as somewhat like early, trippy Pink Floyd... we are very loop oriented, i loop mangled guitar, samples, and some synth patches, triggered by the most horrible thing in world - MIDI.Loopers are ol school - digitech Time Machines, we use 4 of 'em on a good day!! plus some oldskool sequencer loops (1987 mirage) - my partner loops triggered drum sounds and synth sounds, plus some real drums that get into our ambient loop-mic....lotsa real, live percussion too: Jfk's Lsd Ufo Sat October 9 - PILAM, phila, pa 10:00 pm at Pi Lam - 3914 Spruce St, Phila, PA with philly - psychedelic bands The Red King Temple of Bon Matin hope to see some PA loopers! ...re: CDs--no - we're lame - and still do not have the CD done yet-- i am heading over to the artist's house later to go over the cover/tray card etc. we don't wanna rush it - a few of you at the recent INTERNET CAFE gig with BON busted us for not having 'product' and you're right.. we're lame. Soon this will change. ZAPPA fans - the tour is on!! We are gonna be out with Ike Oct 27-Nov 6 check out www.projectobject.com for details... seeya Jfk's Lsd Ufo site Project Object/Zappa tribute http://www.ufomusic.com http://www.projectobject.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 13:14:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27768; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:14:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:14:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <1dfffa23.252b8300@aol.com> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:36:16 EDT Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"AqY03.0.nY4.haY-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have to say that it is also a matter of what you are trying to accomplish when you are looping, too! Personally, I like to generate lots of drones and use those as backgrounds rather than a specific phrase... Just wish that the Boomerang had a fade out feature to it... Shouldn't be more than an added pair of roller pots and a button, but then again, I'd prefer it if it ran in stereo. Back to the question, I won't loop solos that are taking place over backgrounds. As for time constraints with ensembles and playing with other people, it is unfortunately a matter of trying to keep up with them in the directions they are wanting to go. Also, I don't like to loop miked instruments, had some majour problems with feedback, though I am finding that certain piezo pickups out there are a MUCH better solution... Just have to find out if RMC is going to go the direction or not... Back to the fun of getting a GR-30 to sound like a pair of Bag Pipes. Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 14:47:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20322; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:47:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:47:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: OT: advice for live sample playback system Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:42:30 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"CoCaT1.0.5N4.XMa-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, I've been looking for a way to take my composition, in the form of loops and samples ( created with my Trinity, Emu and Logic) out to play live alongside my main instrument - stick. ( http://www.stick.com ) Basically, I'm looking for a unit that I can trigger with my right hand from time to time, while laying down grooves with my left. It also needs to be able to 'freewheel' and playback presequenced material, so that I can get both hands on deck at once. Between loop playback, effected stick (looped with an echoplex soon, I hope :>), a drummer, a vocalist and a keyboardist, I think I could do a good job getting a good contemporary electronica sound, but with the freedom of a live band playing their arses off... I've been looking at the SP-808 - it looks like it can do pretty much what I want, though some people have been suggesting the mpc2000. Has anyone had any experience with this? It looks like a much simpler beast, and less functional. AFAICT it doesn't look like it is as set up for live loop based performance either. It didn't seem to be as easy to get something going and then leave it to play away. Is there anything else built for these kind of musical games? One problem I found playing with the SP808 in a store was that I couldn't get the hard disk recorder to switch sections without a pause. Was this because I couldn't find my way around the machine, or is this a genuine limitation of the box? It's not a non trivial feature, but it seems, with all the looping going on, that this would have been easy for Roland to implement. Mr. Coffin? I saw you sold one recently. Was it possible to loop the recording section? Comments? Please email me privately, if you feel that the others on this list wouldn't be too interested. Thanks, bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 14:47:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20319; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:47:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:47:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: another thing Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:43:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"JTkCO.0.MO4.6Na-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm looking for a keyboardists in the San Francisco Bay Area, probably closer to SF, but Santa Rosa/Gilroy/Marin wouldn't be to far away, if you rock :> I live in Palo Alto, but commute to the city daily, and everything seems to be going on in the city. Basically, I am looking for a writing partner to form the aforementioned band. I have a handle on some drummers and I've met a couple of vocalists, though I have yet to hear them sing. (Come to think of it, do you know any singers or drummers?) Since the bulk of the music would be written by the main melodic instruments, it's important to find someone I can groove with. With so much going on - me on stick, sample playback, electronic percussion and drums, and vocals, there will be a tight place to fill, so massive chops wouldn't be necessary, as long as you can tastefully fill the spaces with interesting pads and textures. Trinity/Triton owners encouraged :> ( Scoots? ) bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 19:03:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20920; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:03:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:03:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Dennis W. Leas'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Looking for Electric Drummers Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:52:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"xyqux1.0.Iq4.xAe-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well - maybe in a drumming world "real-time sequencing" is much like "looping." I guess I'm wondering if any drummers/percussionists are on the list who can layer their drums in real-time, somehow? Secondly, if someone doing this is in the Boston area, I'd be interested in hearing what they're doing. David Kirkdorffer From: Dennis W. Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com What do you mean by "electric drummers?" 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From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 20:26:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08203; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:26:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:26:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:15:52 -0400 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: OT: keyboard alternatives for stressed wrist Resent-Message-ID: <"ZZoYx.0.hi1.qOf-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all - Since this is the biggest bunch of technology-loving guitar players I can think of, I thought I might ask the following: I have been occasionally having some numbness on the back of my left hand, which goes up the back of my arm, is occasionally SLIGHTLY painful in the forearm, and other times feels like there is a breeze blowing on the back of my hand (sorta like that, anyway). I am a hardcore computer user, and as of the last 9 months, playing in every spare moment. I've looked around, and this sounds kinda like it might be some sorta tendonitis/RSI thing developing. So - here's what I'm thinking of doing: 1. switching from 11's to 10's on the guitar. 2. buying a wacom tablet (I use one at home, and never had a problem before) 3. looking into an alternate keyboard, like maybe a one-handed "chording" keyboard (something called the "BAT" looks interesting) Anybody have any experience/words of advice/product recommendations? I prefer something that is PC and Mac compatible as far as the keyboard is concerned, but am open to any suggestions. I don't want to become crippled just when I'm really starting to be able to play decently! Thanks, MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 21:05:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17707; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:05:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:05:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:57:19 EDT Subject: Re: OT: keyboard alternatives for stressed wrist To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"N-7Oi.0.Eo3.Vwf-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/5/99 10:26:38 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, m1cha3l@earthlink.net writes: << I've looked around, and this sounds kinda like it might be some sorta tendonitis/RSI thing developing. >> michael.........i had a similiar thing happen to me and what seemed to help was raising the guitar neck, in fact the entire guitar, into a higher playing position......if you were standing, you would shorten the strap........the arm/angle relationship to the neck seemed to get rid of the stress, pull type feel.........this is really obvious, but it took me a long time to figure out........and now i can play really fast and really loud for longer periods of time...........:)..............try it, it may help............"im a looper, jim, not a doctor"............michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 21:00:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16443; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:00:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:00:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:51:53 EDT Subject: thurs. gig To: amorphousgoogleplex@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"_sAQf.0.JU3.orf-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thurs. Oct. 7th. 7:30-10:00pm (Solo) "Coffeeworks", Ritz Center, Vorhees, N.J. (609) 784-5282. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 21:54:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29127; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:54:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:54:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <033001bf0f9c$a60abe60$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: Subject: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:46:45 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"YRbd82.0.hb6.xcg-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone know if such a pedal exists? I'm looking for something that will mute the sound only when stepped on, so I can quickly cut sounds out or bring them in. I know ProCo makes the Cough Drop, which does what I want, but it's meant for microphones and takes XLR ins and outs, which I'd rather not get into. If there's no factory pedal, does anyone know anyone who can do custom pedals that will prove reliable? And for a reasonable price? Thanks, Jesse From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 22:12:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01157; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:12:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:12:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FAAF4C.5CAD0986@webms.com> Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 19:09:16 -0700 From: paul buelow Organization: WebMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looking for Electric Drummers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NCgfb1.0.Ql7.Rvg-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Kirkdorffer wrote: > > Well - maybe in a drumming world "real-time sequencing" is much like > "looping." I guess I'm wondering if any drummers/percussionists are on the > list who can layer their drums in real-time, somehow? > If I understand correctly, the often-mentioned boxes with 2 memory positions of 7 sec memory that loop such as zoom and echoplex etc seem like they would work well. I guess I will try a zoom to loop live drums. 1) I use a simple keyboard midi sequencer that has 2 measure loop recording. I start the performance with all memory positions blank and the sequencer recording 2 measure patterns in repeat mode. Any simple drum machine would work or a pattern midi sequencer. 2) The drums have mics to trigger the drum module. The midi events are sent to the sequencer and played back to any or all drum and bass modules or of course you can use a keyboard to build the patterns. The whole thing often has me spinning back and forth on drum throne and twisting to hit something-not so good for the neck. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 22:38:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07413; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:38:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:38:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19991005223408.00f3e310@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: km15@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:34:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: kevin miller Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) In-Reply-To: <033001bf0f9c$a60abe60$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"YkbmS.0.EZ1.TLh-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09:46 PM 10/05/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know if such a pedal exists? I'm looking for something that >will mute the sound only when stepped on, so I can quickly cut sounds out or >bring them in. I know ProCo makes the Cough Drop, which does what I want, >but it's meant for microphones and takes XLR ins and outs, which I'd rather >not get into. >If there's no factory pedal, does anyone know anyone who can do custom >pedals that will prove reliable? And for a reasonable price? > >Thanks, >Jesse If it was me, I suppose I'd take one of my stompboxes (ideally one with true bypass) and set the gain or volume to zero- when the box was "on", there'd be no signal, when "off", the (true bypassed) signal. Of course, if you need all your pedals all the time, then you'd have to look at other options (which I'm sure exist out there). Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 22:50:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10325; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:50:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:50:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000c01bf0fa3$d7b03b00$b46fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:38:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"m7UzU3.0.Gz1.MRh-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com a simple a/b switch should do that shouldn't it????? Does anyone know if such a pedal exists? I'm looking for something that will mute the sound only when stepped on, so I can quickly cut sounds out or bring them in. I know ProCo makes the Cough Drop, which does what I want, but it's meant for microphones and takes XLR ins and outs, which I'd rather not get into. If there's no factory pedal, does anyone know anyone who can do custom pedals that will prove reliable? And for a reasonable price? Thanks, From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 23:07:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14374; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:07:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:07:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007401bf0fa7$73231fa0$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: References: <3.0.3.32.19991005223408.00f3e310@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:04:04 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"IOSrm.0.XC3.Qlh-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > If it was me, I suppose I'd take one of my stompboxes (ideally one > with true bypass) and set the gain or volume to zero- when the box was > "on", there'd be no signal, when "off", the (true bypassed) signal. Of > course, if you need all your pedals all the time, then you'd have to look > at other options (which I'm sure exist out there). Yeah, I can do that now with the channel-switching on my amp, but the problem is that there's a minimum time that I can have either sound or no sound. To have a sound for only a brief period, I have to step on the pedal for on and again for off. With a momentary, I can just lift my foot for a brief second and then put it back down. So I'd prefer that. It's basically just a matter of speed and maybe ease. -Jesse From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 23:29:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19591; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:29:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:29:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009401bf0faa$56a87200$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: References: <000c01bf0fa3$d7b03b00$b46fc8d0@computer> Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:24:45 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"4efbb.0.PN4.o2i-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah. I can do it now with channel-switching on the amp, but it's kind of slow and annoying to have to hit the button twice to bring a sound in and then cut it out again quickly. I want a momentary switch so I can do it really quickly. -Jesse ----- Original Message ----- From: postaldave To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) > a simple a/b switch should do that shouldn't it????? > > Does anyone know if such a pedal exists? I'm looking for something that > will mute the sound only when stepped on, so I can quickly cut sounds out or > bring them in. I know ProCo makes the Cough Drop, which does what I want, > but it's meant for microphones and takes XLR ins and outs, which I'd rather > not get into. > If there's no factory pedal, does anyone know anyone who can do custom > pedals that will prove reliable? And for a reasonable price? > > Thanks, > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 5 23:48:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23552; Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:48:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:48:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007401bf0fa7$73231fa0$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> References: <3.0.3.32.19991005223408.00f3e310@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:44:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Resent-Message-ID: <"l8AjZ1.0.kU5.wLi-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I go the opposite way--my pedal gives a momentary "on" when stepped on--but it would be no biggie to flip it. I use a custom synth module based on a CEM VCA chip, and the "pedal" is just a Radio Shack momentary switch that pumps it 5 volts to open it up. Unfortunately you probably don't want to buy an analog synth VCA to accomplish what you're doing, but you might get a used half-rack dbx gate or something like that and rig up a footswitch. Also unfortunately--don't figure on just putting your signal through a simple mechanical switch. It will pop. I think a good solution might be a design based on Craig Anderton's "electronic foot switch" in "Electronic Projects For Musicians", but it would take some reworking. It doesn't sound like you're too much into DIY though, so maybe all this is lost breath.... David Myers >> If it was me, I suppose I'd take one of my stompboxes (ideally one >> with true bypass) and set the gain or volume to zero- when the box was >> "on", there'd be no signal, when "off", the (true bypassed) signal. Of >> course, if you need all your pedals all the time, then you'd have to look >> at other options (which I'm sure exist out there). > > >Yeah, I can do that now with the channel-switching on my amp, but the >problem is that there's a minimum time that I can have either sound or no >sound. To have a sound for only a brief period, I have to step on the pedal >for on and again for off. With a momentary, I can just lift my foot for a >brief second and then put it back down. So I'd prefer that. It's basically >just a matter of speed and maybe ease. > >-Jesse From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 00:07:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28037; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:07:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 00:07:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008801bf0fae$fd79b040$9dcf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: <033001bf0f9c$a60abe60$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:58:01 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"dfNzW1.0.cY6.oci-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jesse Kudler wrote: > Does anyone know if such a pedal exists? I'm looking for something that > will mute the sound only when stepped on, so I can quickly cut sounds out or > bring them in. I know ProCo makes the Cough Drop, which does what I > want, but it's meant for microphones and takes XLR ins and outs, which I'd > rather not get into. > If there's no factory pedal, does anyone know anyone who can do custom > pedals that will prove reliable? And for a reasonable price? > Thanks, Jesse I have an old DOD "Swell" pedal (no puns, please,) which is/was their version of the old Boss "Slow Gear" pedal. It does what you say. Actually, it will fade in slowly after you release the pedal, but you can set the rate pretty high so it is almost instantaneous. I found this pedal in a clearance box at a local music store, so I'm not sure how hard it will be for you to find one. Probably even less useful advice: the Boss SE-70 rack fx unit has a "Slow Gear" patch. Don't know if its successor, the new VF-1, does or not, though. -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 01:30:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18156; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 01:30:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 01:30:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991006001847.007c4910@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 00:18:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) In-Reply-To: <008801bf0fae$fd79b040$9dcf08cf@donaldpancoe> References: <033001bf0f9c$a60abe60$1e8c8581@stu.wesleyan.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Jlbbs.0.0w3.Cmj-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, How about a good (high-end optical Morley or the like...) volume pedal with an adjustable range? This would accomplish what you're needing--just by a flick of the foot. Not quite momentary, but something that you might want to consider! Sincerley, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 05:06:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA26853; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:06:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 05:06:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005201bf0fd8$6775f700$0316a5ce@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: keyboard alternatives for stressed wrist Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 01:54:29 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"VcKAx.0.-z5.Pvm-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Michael Tuminello inquired: > I have been occasionally having some numbness on the back of my left hand... I was misdiagnosed briefly with Carpal Tunnel Whatsis until it was found that I'd actually hurt my back slightly in the past, but had developed quite the muscular compensation for it, ultimately gaining a tense base of the neck, including the bundle of nerves branching off to the extremities. Symptoms were at times painful and sometimes frightening (not being able to squeeze closed a pair of springed pliers!); and before finding out about the back problem and its complications, was being ordered by doctors to wear wrist braces at all times. Phooey. I found a lot of damage was being done while I slept, in that I'd crook my wrists in, holding my arms to my chest, and alternately stressing the muscles at the tops of my hands and wrists, and cutting off the circulation to my hands. A superior chiropractor taught me how to sleep with my arms out from my body, thus relieving the pressure, and the hand stress. Since then I've not had too much trouble at all, thank God, since every thing I do practically is through my hands, including drawing and illustration. Imagine the relief when the problem went away, only occasionally returning briefly when I sleep the wrong way. > 2. buying a wacom tablet (I use one at home, and never had a problem before) Wonderful idea no matter what. As a person who draws I find the pen-tablet a superior interface (I'd prefer one that combines touch-screen with pen-tablet) to the mouse, no matter how many buttons or wheels it's got on it. Above all, try to do some relaxation exercises of some kind before bed. Physical stretching beforehand. Look into Yoga. Many folks who in the past suffered in this manner - some in their 80s - find a good amount of relief this way too. At least that's what Dr. Whiplash told me to say... :) [wink] Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! 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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 04:58:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"CHlfg.0.2v5.4cp-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lee, if you get that bagpipe sound I'd love to get the settings. papadave55@hotmail.com >From: Phaedebk@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:36:16 EDT > > Have to say that it is also a matter of what you are trying to >accomplish >when you are looping, too! Personally, I like to generate lots of drones >and >use those as backgrounds rather than a specific phrase... Just wish that >the >Boomerang had a fade out feature to it... Shouldn't be more than an added >pair of roller pots and a button, but then again, I'd prefer it if it ran >in >stereo. > > Back to the question, I won't loop solos that are taking place over >backgrounds. As for time constraints with ensembles and playing with other >people, it is unfortunately a matter of trying to keep up with them in the >directions they are wanting to go. > Also, I don't like to loop miked instruments, had some majour problems >with feedback, though I am finding that certain piezo pickups out there are >a >MUCH better solution... 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References: <032501bf0e9b$46296160$292310ac@Douglas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wd3143.0.6r7.-8q-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com WOW! I clicked the button and a bowl of rice appeared at my doorstep! How did they know......... "K. Douglas Baldwin" wrote: > Please forgive the spam-like looks of this message, but this seems like a > legit deal. 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I just sent 1 1/2 cups of rice to a needy person! > >> > >>Visit the site and pass the word. http://www.thehungersite.com > >> > >>Together we can make a difference! -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 09:19:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09253; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:19:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:19:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'kevin miller'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:59:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"_T6bx3.0.PW1.nbq-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How about an A/B switch - where only one side is patched to anything? dk -----Original Message----- From: kevin miller [mailto:km15@cornell.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 10:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Momentary Mute Pedal (not loop related) At 09:46 PM 10/05/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone know if such a pedal exists? I'm looking for something that >will mute the sound only when stepped on, so I can quickly cut sounds out or >bring them in. I know ProCo makes the Cough Drop, which does what I want, >but it's meant for microphones and takes XLR ins and outs, which I'd rather >not get into. >If there's no factory pedal, does anyone know anyone who can do custom >pedals that will prove reliable? And for a reasonable price? > >Thanks, >Jesse If it was me, I suppose I'd take one of my stompboxes (ideally one with true bypass) and set the gain or volume to zero- when the box was "on", there'd be no signal, when "off", the (true bypassed) signal. Of course, if you need all your pedals all the time, then you'd have to look at other options (which I'm sure exist out there). Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 09:37:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14011; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:37:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:37:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FB4C7A.6F3A@wxs.nl> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:19:54 +0200 From: Jan Wolfkamp Reply-To: pads.alloud@wxs.nl Organization: Pads Alloud X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-WXS-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Electronic drummer/percussionist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HaE041.0.tI2.coq-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes,there is an electronic drummer on the LD list.My name is Jan Wolfkamp and my drumsoloproject is Pads Alloud!. I use an echoplex for 4 years now(only one)but when the EDP are available again I want to buy a second one,for stereo etc.I live in Holland,Europe and it is not easy to get an EDP here.In combination with an DDRUM3 and an accoustic setup it is perfect!Last september I record an CD with Greg Howard,the stickplayer with a lot of loops on it.It will be released in the biginning of 2000,but on his webside www.greghoward.com there is an mp3 file of a liveconcert we did here in Holland with loops.greating and keep on looping! Jan Wolfkamp ,Holland From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 09:43:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15497; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:43:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:43:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:28:42 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Tendonitis Correction Issues Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"v9Whp2.0.x03.Xzq-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's some things that worked for me: 1. You're playing guitar, not rowing a boat. Switch to .009s, not .010s from .011s or .12s. Play with a VERY LIGHT TOUCH and let your amp and processors do the work. If you were used to fighting the instrument to get a sound out of it, stop that approach and use a very light touch with light gauge strings and let your gear do the amplification. This helped me a lot. This also allows you to play with controlled dynamics more. 2. Wear your guitar higher on the strap, like a bib almost. You might not get the coveted "junkie swagger" look so many have adopted, but everything is right there and you will not only have a more efficient position for both right and left hands, but your playing will be better as a result. 3. Position your left hand so your thumb is against the back of the neck of the instrument. This lets your left hand fingers make a more efficient position for contact with the fretboard. Do NOT hook your left hand thumb over the low-e string, it makes for a much less efficient position and is actually much more awkward. If you're playing certain Jimi chords, though, you will have to switch back and forth. 4. If you find that you are nervous when playing, you're probably clenching your teeth and pressing down on the fretboad with too much pressure. STOP IT. Find a way to relax, you need to if you are going to play correctly. 5. Stop wearing a wristwatch while playing. If you absolutely must know the time of day, put a tiny digital clock on the surface of your guitar or add a digital alarm clock to your rack (it will look even more impressive that way). 6. Make sure you warm up slowly and carefully before playing. Finally, one thing that really helped me loosen up was washing the dishes. I'm not kidding. I'd have a basin of warm, soapy water and after washing the dishes I'd be all warmed up to play due to the heat in the water. Try it! Good luck! -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 11:13:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05400; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:13:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:13:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Fw: Food! Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:03:42 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01bf100b$fad34e20$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37FB4162.6492E012@mail.del.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"DXysx.0.ch.KJs-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dude, you are unduly making fun of the millions of people dying of hunger around the world. You ought to do some travelling so you get rid of this uncomfortable provincial humor. | -----Original Message----- | From: chriswebb [mailto:chriswebb@mail.del.net] | Sent: Wednesday 06 October 1999 5:33 AM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: Fw: Food! | | | WOW! I clicked the button and a bowl of rice appeared at my doorstep! | | How did they know......... | | "K. Douglas Baldwin" wrote: | | > Please forgive the spam-like looks of this message, but this | seems like a | > legit deal. Click on the web site; it'll only take a few seconds - no... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 11:13:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05384; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:13:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:13:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <013801bf100b$16b1a9d0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Looking for Electric Drummers Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:57:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"fvclS2.0.9H.xCs-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm a loopy percussionist! I haven't looped my drumset but I loop hand drums, marimba, and other toys. Frankly, it's a little difficult with mics: 1) setting the proper level, 2) bleed-over from monitors, ambient room sounds, etc, 3) carrying/setting-up several mics. I've been thinking about using headphones to monitor and maybe one wireless mic. I use my loopers (two EDPs) almost exclusively when I do solo shows. I have a loopy guitarist friend and I accompany him on several looped escapades. We've practiced with both sets of loopers (his and mine) but have never performed with both. Currently in performances, he sets up a loop and I follow it. Let me tell ya', it's not the easiest thing, especially when the loop has a "hitch in its git-a-long". BTW: I'm in Lafayete, Indiana, USA, which is nowhere near Boston (geographically or culturally). Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 12:18:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22589; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:18:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:18:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:54:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf1013$12d78340$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0FD8.66804C60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"FFitC2.0.Bx3.O2t-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0FD8.66804C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my new Mini Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0FD8.66804C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have = had no luck=20 finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my new Mini Disc unit- any = suggestions Greatly appreciated-
 
Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BF0FD8.66804C60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 12:22:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23427; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:22:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:22:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991006160958.7317.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: OT: keyboard alternatives for stressed wrist To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"eo6T2.0.xy4.-Ht-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, I worked out a couple of minor solutions to this problem. After a minimal amt of research, I felt the chording type keyboards were going to be too slow (bat,etc.) I settled on Interfaces by Cramer http://www.ergointerfaces.com/Welcome.htm It was around $225 for a refurbished unit (ouch). They have a chair arm and a desktop model. I purchased the desktop model as it was exactly what I wanted for my desk. Most desks are not suitable for computers and keyboarding, IMHO. I finally designed my own, which is really just of 4x8 sheet of maple faced plywood with a rounded square cut out of the middle. It is simply draped across a couple of two drawer file cabinets with the back resting on wall mounted shelf supports. My chair slides up into the little cutout and my arms rest along the sides in a very relaxed position, and interface w/ the keyboard. I have the monitor in front and can swivel to 2 work surfaces. There is plenty of room for additional equip on the larger worksurface. I hope to find or build a large replica of a computer keyboard slide out drawer and install a piano keyboard right under the monitor section, so I can pull it out and wail away. I also put female velcro tape on the keys I hit the most to cushion the impact (spacebar, backspace, enter, etc.). This has helped alot to slow down the finger joint disintegration. A picture of my desk and keyboard if you are interested is at: http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/epbimages/desk.JPG That's not me in the picture. I'm much younger and better looking :-). Randy Jones --- Michael Tuminello wrote: > Hi all - > > Since this is the biggest bunch of > technology-loving guitar players I can > think of, I thought I might ask the following: > > I have been occasionally having some numbness > on the back of my left hand, > which goes up the back of my arm, is > occasionally SLIGHTLY painful in the > forearm, and other times feels like there is a > breeze blowing on the back > of my hand (sorta like that, anyway). I am a > hardcore computer user, and > as of the last 9 months, playing in every spare > moment. I've looked > around, and this sounds kinda like it might be > some sorta tendonitis/RSI > thing developing. > > So - here's what I'm thinking of doing: > > 1. switching from 11's to 10's on the guitar. > 2. buying a wacom tablet (I use one at home, > and never had a problem before) > 3. looking into an alternate keyboard, like > maybe a one-handed "chording" > keyboard (something called the "BAT" looks > interesting) > > Anybody have any experience/words of > advice/product recommendations? I > prefer something that is PC and Mac compatible > as far as the keyboard is > concerned, but am open to any suggestions. I > don't want to become > crippled just when I'm really starting to be > able to play decently! > > Thanks, > > MT > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 12:49:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30619; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:49:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:49:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FB77A6.956CF80D@pop.agri.ch> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 18:24:11 +0200 From: Jesus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Turi=F1o?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,de-CH,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic References: <000001bf1013$12d78340$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0odbi3.0.1d5.CSt-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I still use my old "sony ecm-ms907"; for MD it still works good. Jesús Clifford Novey wrote: > I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my > new Mini Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 13:00:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01132; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:00:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:00:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <017e01bf101a$9ade5780$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:48:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017B_01BF0FF0.B1EFBE70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"cnsqp1.0.9J7.Drt-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017B_01BF0FF0.B1EFBE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cliff, Have you checked out www.minidisco.com ? They have a money-back = guarentee as I recall. I nearly bought a mic from them but instead I = found a Sony mic that I liked (I had borrowed one so I was familiar with = it). Also, have you visited www.minidisc.org ? Lots of great info! What kind of MD unit do you have? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ------=_NextPart_000_017B_01BF0FF0.B1EFBE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cliff,
 
Have you checked out www.minidisco.com ?  They = have a=20 money-back guarentee as I recall.  I nearly bought a mic from them = but=20 instead I found a Sony mic that I liked (I had borrowed one so I was = familiar=20 with it).  Also, have you visited www.minidisc.org ? Lots of great=20 info!
 
What kind of MD unit do you have?
 
Dennis=20 Leas
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dennis@mdbs.com
------=_NextPart_000_017B_01BF0FF0.B1EFBE70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 13:07:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02975; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:07:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:07:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FB3EFB.B5B@ithacastring.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 12:22:19 +0000 From: Eric Aceto Reply-To: eric@ithacastring.com Organization: Ithaca Stringed Instruments X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic References: <000001bf1013$12d78340$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> <37FB77A6.956CF80D@pop.agri.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mNVNp3.0.7C.L_t-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my > > new Mini Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- Cliff > Hey ..If you have any skill with a soldering iron,you can construct a great little stereo condenser with mic cartridges and parts available at www.digikey.com .Great sound...low cost. regards, Eric -- drop on by for a visit http://www.ithacastring.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 13:12:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04140; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:12:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:12:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:03:37 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bf101c$bb7503c0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0FE2.0F162BC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <000001bf1013$12d78340$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"pwA8P.0.US.Y3u-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0FE2.0F162BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I was unclear- I mean to say I need to know where these types of mics can be found- I only found some $1000 binaural mics so far! No local stores seem to have any either- Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:54 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Non- Loop stereo mic I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my new Mini Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0FE2.0F162BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry,=20 I was unclear- I mean to say I need to know where these types of mics = can be=20 found- I only found some $1000 binaural mics so far! No local stores = seem to=20 have any either-
 
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford Novey=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, = 1999=20 8:54 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: Non- Loop = stereo=20 mic

I = have had no luck=20 finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my new Mini Disc unit- = any=20 suggestions Greatly appreciated-
 
Cliff
<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF0FE2.0F162BC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 13:28:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08324; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:28:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:28:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991006170913.2622.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:09:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"cwowu.0.xl.a7u-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Without knowing what you mean by 'affordable', I would suggest you look at: http://www.hip.atr.co.jp/~eaw/minidisc/part_Microphones.html bret --- Clifford Novey wrote: > I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny > stereo mic for my new Mini > Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- > > Cliff > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 13:30:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09307; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:30:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:30:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:00:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bf101c$45552580$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <37FB77A6.956CF80D@pop.agri.ch> Resent-Message-ID: <"c4ks01.0.LF.70u-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, but where did you get it? That is my difficulty- thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Jesus Turiņo [mailto:j-turino@pop.agri.ch] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 9:24 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic I still use my old "sony ecm-ms907"; for MD it still works good. Jesús Clifford Novey wrote: > I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my > new Mini Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 13:35:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10705; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:35:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:35:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FB8522.B290F553@pop.agri.ch> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 19:21:48 +0200 From: Jesus =?iso-8859-1?Q?Turi=F1o?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,de-CH,es MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic References: <000201bf101c$45552580$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"BXely1.0.JR1.RIu-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Clifford, You should get it in a normal electronic-store. Here in europe they sold thousands (Price about 150 US-$). If You are really interessed, mail me ... It should be no problem to find one here. Jesús Clifford Novey wrote: > Yes, but where did you get it? That is my difficulty- thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesus Turiņo [mailto:j-turino@pop.agri.ch] > Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 9:24 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic > > I still use my old "sony ecm-ms907"; for MD it still works good. > > Jesús > > Clifford Novey wrote: > > > I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my > > new Mini Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 14:20:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22112; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:20:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:20:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:28:31 -0700 Message-ID: <001101bf1020$35701900$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF0FE5.89114100" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <017e01bf101a$9ade5780$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"fV6Ck.0.u12.eQu-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF0FE5.89114100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sharp Md-ms702- I love it!- wish it had back light on main face tho- I use it every day- Does anyone know if Lithium ion batteries should be kept charged or if they need to be drained every so often? I would be very interested in building my own as was suggested by Eric Aceto- I have not checked out those web sites for mics- I will- the Sony ECM-MS907 is $100 bucks- which is fine but it is too big for "stealth" recording! Which Sony mic do you use? Hey Eric! What parts did you use? Any photos avail of your creation? What did you use for a shell? I am interested- thanks all- Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 9:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic Cliff, Have you checked out www.minidisco.com ? They have a money-back guarentee as I recall. I nearly bought a mic from them but instead I found a Sony mic that I liked (I had borrowed one so I was familiar with it). Also, have you visited www.minidisc.org ? Lots of great info! What kind of MD unit do you have? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF0FE5.89114100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sharp=20 Md-ms702- I love it!- wish it had back light on main face tho- I use it = every=20 day- Does anyone know if Lithium ion batteries should be kept charged or = if they=20 need to be drained every so often?
I would=20 be very interested in building my own as was suggested by Eric = Aceto- I=20 have not checked out those web sites for mics- I will- the Sony = ECM-MS907 is=20 $100 bucks- which is fine but it is too big for "stealth" recording! = Which Sony=20 mic do you use?
Hey=20 Eric! What parts did you use? Any photos avail of your creation? What = did you=20 use for a shell? I am interested- thanks all-
Cliff
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis W. Leas=20 [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 = 9:48=20 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Re: = Non-=20 Loop stereo mic

Cliff,
 
Have you checked out www.minidisco.com ?  They = have a=20 money-back guarentee as I recall.  I nearly bought a mic from = them but=20 instead I found a Sony mic that I liked (I had borrowed one so I was = familiar=20 with it).  Also, have you visited www.minidisc.org ? Lots of great=20 info!
 
What kind of MD unit do you have?
 
Dennis=20 Leas
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dennis@mdbs.com
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BF0FE5.89114100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 14:18:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21814; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:18:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:18:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:57:00 -0700 Message-ID: <001801bf1024$30271d00$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <19991006170913.2622.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"sxDST2.0.934.Eru-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Great link- thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Bret [mailto:echoplex@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:09 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic Without knowing what you mean by 'affordable', I would suggest you look at: http://www.hip.atr.co.jp/~eaw/minidisc/part_Microphones.html bret --- Clifford Novey wrote: > I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny > stereo mic for my new Mini > Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- > > Cliff > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 14:30:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25166; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:30:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:30:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991006182110.96303.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.155.29.197] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non- Loop stereo mic Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 11:21:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"65eew.0.Mc5.4Dv-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com orders@minidisco.com >From: "Clifford Novey" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: "Loopers Delight" >Subject: Non- Loop stereo mic >Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:54:29 -0700 > >I have had no luck finding an affordable and tiny stereo mic for my new >Mini >Disc unit- any suggestions Greatly appreciated- > >Cliff ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 15:08:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01783; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:08:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:08:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-Id: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C713@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:56:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"vjagI1.0.Ih7.Tjv-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have to agree with Julio. Toumane Diabete is amazing. Very. Micah Bedwell Technical Analyst, Level 3 Private Client Services Pager: 800.800.9456 Office: 415.222.3686 > -----Original Message----- > From: nitesh patel [SMTP:tesh@gte.net] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 12:13 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? > > if you wanna be in 1975 you don't loop but with technology today there's > absolutely no reason not to loop and use patterns created by your self > through > your sequencer wether it's souned forge4.5 or cakewalk diffrent versions > hgave > the number of patterns you =can sequence or loop with your better of > using > l;oops asv your loop will always be on time will your guatrist? > > Julio Moreno wrote: > > > Matthias: Toumane Diabate from Mali...they don't need loop machines > > and play the best ''loop mantras'' in the world. The band usually plays > as > > trio with guitar,kora, ngoni, nguini and marimba. AMAZING MUSIC!!! > > Julio > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Matthias Grob > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:39 AM > > Subject: Re: Question of the Week -- when do you NOT loop? > > > > > > > > >"When do you make a choice NOT to loop?" > > > > > > Oh, nice question ;-) > > > > > > I guess, most of us have parts without loop in their loop pieces, but > they > > > rather feel like bridges mostly, so thats probably not what we talk > about > > > here... > > > > > > I allways had problems with rythms. My music speaks in sound and > melody. > > > I somehow need the loop to keep me steady and leared a lot from it. > Brasil > > > tought me another big lesson. But still, without loop, I tend to > > > constantely change themes and travel in variations, hardly repeating > > myself. > > > For a long time, I thought this was not "serious" music, but more and > more > > > I find it about as interesting as mantric loops. > > > Where is that need for repeated parts coming from? Isnt it mostly a > help > > to > > > remember and teach the song? So in an improvisation, you dont need it? > > > If you want a mantric effect, use a loop to get the strongest effect, > if > > > not, just keep going, tell the story! To do it well is not so easy, > but I > > > am getting better at it, in my candleaccousiticroom. > > > > > > Could anyone indicate recorded music of this notreapeatatall kind? > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 16:48:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28565; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:48:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:48:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991006203351.728.rocketmail@web116.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:33:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: build your own small mics cheaply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"YaTQX.0.sz5.p9x-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Re: small stealthy microphones you can build yourself inexpensively: http://www.tir.com/~liteways/Mandolin.html#Microphone http://www.arches.uga.edu/~tidmarsh/binmic.html http://www.connact.com/~eaw/minidisc/homemade_mics.html bret ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 17:17:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03572; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:17:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:17:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008101bf1040$3afbe000$06974cd8@micronjenni> From: "Jenni Leeds" To: References: <199910061927.PAA06997@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Contact Mic Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:17:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"ULnS81.0.5Q.fhx-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello there. Contact mics seem to be really cool things to have around the house. I've read where Daniel Menche an underground sound artist records found sounds with a simple contact mic. There have been many a times I've placed one ear up to a thick metal pole and banged on it to hear "what's going on inside of it"... My question. Does anybody out there know how to make a decent contact mic. Searching on the net has come to a dead end. There aren't even any good explanations as to what a contact microphone is. Jamie Mash {Exp.MusicDirector atWMTS88.3} From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 17:59:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12449; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:59:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:59:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: Looper party? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:38:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C713@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"qTJ863.0.qn1.A2y-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How many people here would be interested in a looping party some upcoming Saturday or Sunday, in Palo Alto? I have : a small PA (two keyboard amps), mixer and a DATman. My place is a bit small - especially since everyone will want to bring their toys, so it would have to be outside and so it would have to be during the day, unless another venue can be found. Getting enough clean electricity >might< be a problem (considering how much crap I have plugged in right now though, I doubt it :> but then again, if everybody brings their toys...) Please let me know if you are interested, and how many power outlets you would need :> bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 19:55:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05710; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:55:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 19:55:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991006233132.5950.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: Contact Mic To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"_U3I91.0.C8.1nz-t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Contact mics are typically piezo elements. See http://harmonycentral.com/Guitar/piezo-pickups.txt to learn how to make one, and http://www.oz.net/~walterh/basspre1.htm or http://www.ru.ac.za/departments/iwr/staff/daf/guitar/piezo.html for articles on how to make a preamp for a piezo pickup. You can also learn more by searching for patents on piezoelectric instrument at: http://www.patents.ibm.com/ such as http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?pn=US05155285__ patent by fishman. bret --- Jenni Leeds wrote: > > Hello there. > Contact mics seem to be really cool things to > have around the house. > My question. Does anybody out there know how to > make a decent contact > mic. Searching on the net has come to a dead end. > There aren't even any good > explanations as to what a contact microphone is. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 23:00:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA14772; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:00:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:00:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <37FC05AB.6BA3@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 22:30:03 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Zoom for Sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"MNYfJ1.0.2A2.HP0_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If anyone's interested, I'm selling a like-new Zoom Player 2100 with FP02 exp/vol pedal for $120.00, plus shipping. I'd rather not seperate the two, as they've grown quite fond of one another, but will if you insist. The box works perfectly, it was just an impulse buy of a dedicated loop junkie(like you haven't done it before). If desirous of said unit, please e-mail me privately. Z. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 6 23:28:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA20907; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:28:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:28:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.9d0936e1.252d6a3c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:15:08 EDT Subject: Re: Contact Mic To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"kmM-x2.0.fO4.Y11_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jamie, I've used cheap Radio Shack peizo elements ($1.25) as contact mics. Run the sound through something that can act like a pre-amp (many effects processors, for instance) or a real pre-amp/amp and you're in business. There are nickel-sized ones and quarter-sized ones as I recall. I buy 'em by the dozen. ;-) Good sounds, Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 00:24:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02553; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:24:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:24:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FC1A8B.949BE9F1@erols.com> Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 23:59:29 -0400 From: "J.G. Wong" Reply-To: adaaxs@erols.com Organization: Tokusatsu.com, Tokusatsu Access Archive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Tuminello CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: OT: keyboard alternatives for stressed wrist Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------320E1ED01A538E061AC25916" Resent-Message-ID: <"FkrnK2.0._T6.sc1_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------320E1ED01A538E061AC25916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am not a doctor but both my wife and i have had problems like you outline and some even more things. We are lucky enough to have our offices right down the street from one of the best hand surgeons in the world. We have learned a lot. First thing we learned is that there really is no such thing as tendonitis, those symptoms are indicative of neurological irritation. Anything that involves tracking, burning or prickly pain requires a neurologist /hand specialist. We nearly had a disaster dealing with am orthopedist (bones ain't nerves) . You need the smartest MD's you can get your hands on for these sorts of problems. One story: Wife goes to Sports Medicine physician (orthopod) for shoulder arm pain. He recommends Clavechtomy (sawing off tip of clavicle) She waits, devlops shooting pain in same area, MD says, "That's impossible, it's in your head". She goes to Neurologist and he finds hardly any voltage making it through the nerve in her neck, they delicately scrape off some scar tissue , pain gone. It gets complicated. You have three nerves in your arm Radial (thumb and forefinger on up), Median(middle half of ring on up) and Ulna (pinky to back of arm on up) rough descriptions. Three tunnels : wrist (carpal), elbow and neck (brachialplexus). The last of which is common, most severe and hardest to diagnose. The nerves feed back from both ends. Just because you get your wrist done does not mean the neck nerve end wrong continue your pain. Often scar tissue and nerves adhering to muscle are the culprits. Before you let anybody cut on you learn about the nerves and the structures around them. Get EMGs (nerve studies) and do not let them just snip your carpal tunel (you will lose the integrity of your hand). None of the surgeries on these nerves are simple, you need high end surgeons to do them (none of the good ones are ever eager to cut) I have the same symptoms and play and compute like you. I wear a wrist brace (carpal) when I sleep, use an ergonomic keyboard at the right elevation with a long cable and a very good chair (most important). I have staved off surgery by doing this. I wouldn't change strings. I tried that and found that I was raising my action to make up for the tone loss, same diff. I'm sure some of the technique hound out there can tell you better about straps and elevatio, posture etc... I have no qualifications to give advice and I would not want you to do anything based on what i have written. Find out for yourself. It is important to do that. This is scary stuff and it concerns any musician. This is an electronic disease, literally and figuratively and will probably afeect everyone on this list in one way or another. Sorry for the screed but I feel it is important. Best Fiveman > Hi all - > > Since this is the biggest bunch of technology-loving guitar players I can > think of, I thought I might ask the following: > > I have been occasionally having some numbness on the back of my left hand, > which goes up the back of my arm, is occasionally SLIGHTLY painful in the > forearm, and other times feels like there is a breeze blowing on the back > of my hand (sorta like that, anyway). I am a hardcore computer user, and > as of the last 9 months, playing in every spare moment. I've looked > around, and this sounds kinda like it might be some sorta tendonitis/RSI > thing developing. > > So - here's what I'm thinking of doing: > > 1. switching from 11's to 10's on the guitar. > 2. buying a wacom tablet (I use one at home, and never had a problem before) > 3. looking into an alternate keyboard, like maybe a one-handed "chording" > keyboard (something called the "BAT" looks interesting) > > Anybody have any experience/words of advice/product recommendations? I > prefer something that is PC and Mac compatible as far as the keyboard is > concerned, but am open to any suggestions. I don't want to become > crippled just when I'm really starting to be able to play decently! > > Thanks, > > --------------320E1ED01A538E061AC25916 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,

I am not a doctor but both my wife and i have had problems like you outline and some even more things.  We are lucky enough to have our offices right down the street from one of the best hand surgeons in the world.  We have learned a lot.

First thing we learned is that there really is no such thing as tendonitis, those symptoms are indicative of neurological irritation.  Anything that involves tracking, burning or prickly pain requires a neurologist /hand specialist.  We nearly had a disaster dealing with am orthopedist (bones ain't nerves) .  You need the smartest MD's you can get your hands on for these sorts of problems.

One story: Wife goes to Sports Medicine physician (orthopod) for shoulder arm pain.  He recommends Clavechtomy (sawing off tip of clavicle)  She waits, devlops shooting pain in same area,  MD says, "That's impossible, it's in your head".  She goes to Neurologist and he finds hardly any voltage making it through the nerve in her neck, they delicately scrape off some scar tissue , pain gone.

It gets complicated. You have three nerves in your arm Radial (thumb and forefinger on up), Median(middle half of ring on up) and Ulna (pinky to back of arm on up) rough descriptions.  Three tunnels : wrist (carpal), elbow and neck (brachialplexus). The last of which is common, most severe and hardest to diagnose. The nerves feed back from both ends. Just because you get your wrist done does not mean the neck nerve end wrong continue your pain.

Often scar tissue and nerves adhering to muscle are the culprits.  Before you let anybody cut on you learn about the nerves and the structures around them. Get EMGs (nerve studies) and do not let them just snip your carpal tunel (you will lose the integrity of your hand). None of the surgeries on these nerves are simple, you need high end surgeons to do them (none of the good ones are ever eager to cut)

I have the same symptoms and play and compute like you.  I wear a wrist brace (carpal) when I sleep, use an ergonomic keyboard at the right elevation with a long cable and a very good chair (most important). I have staved off surgery by doing this.

I wouldn't change strings.  I tried that and found that I was raising my action to make up for the tone loss, same diff.  I'm sure some of the technique hound out there can tell you better about straps and elevatio, posture etc...

I have no qualifications to give advice and I would not want you to do anything based on what i have written. Find out for yourself.  It is important to do that.

This is scary stuff and it concerns any musician.  This is an electronic disease, literally and figuratively and will probably afeect everyone on this list in one way or another. Sorry for the screed but I feel it is important.

Best

Fiveman
 
 
  

Hi all -

Since this is the biggest bunch of technology-loving guitar players I can
think of, I thought I might ask the following:

I have been occasionally having some numbness on the back of my left hand,
which goes up the back of my arm, is occasionally SLIGHTLY painful in the
forearm, and other times feels like there is a breeze blowing on the back
of my hand (sorta like that, anyway).   I am a hardcore computer user, and
as of the last 9 months, playing in every spare moment.   I've looked
around, and this sounds kinda like it might be some sorta tendonitis/RSI
thing developing.

So - here's what I'm thinking of doing:

1.  switching from 11's to 10's on the guitar.
2.  buying a wacom tablet (I use one at home, and never had a problem before)
3.  looking into an alternate keyboard, like maybe a one-handed "chording"
keyboard (something called the "BAT" looks interesting)

Anybody have any experience/words of advice/product recommendations?  I
prefer something that is PC and Mac compatible as far as the keyboard is
concerned, but am open to any suggestions.   I don't want to become
crippled just when I'm really starting to be able to play decently!

Thanks,
--------------320E1ED01A538E061AC25916-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 03:08:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA01853; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:08:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:08:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37F49FDD.C7849B97@vtx.ch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:01:28 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Synchronization band-loop (machine-loop) Resent-Message-ID: <"wsAuc3.0.Ns5.6g3_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Matthias Grob wrote: >> >> Jim asked: >> >Anyone use the EDP midi out to sync. drum machines? >> >I always find that even with 1/8th beats at max. the >> >clock output is far too slow even on a 5sec. base loop. >> >> Oh, thats interesting. It would not be complicated to change the 1/8th >> beats table. Maybe it should not contain all the odd beat numbers, but >> bigger ones instead? Jim again: >propable a bad idea (and assuming your still up for ideas >for firmware "upgrades) but ... how about an option instead >of 1/8th beats where you can dial in a bpm setting which >generates a clock-out and controls the quantised functions? >then instead of 1/8th beats you could simple have a choice >of 4/4 3/4 or triplet times which determined how the EDP >quantises your loop time to the beat pattern. One thing is the definition of the timing with a programable dial-number variable. Certainly not for EDP any more, but for something bigger, many wished that. The other thing is the definition of the measure. We only have one button for it. As I understand, you would be satisfied with just 4/4, 3/4 and multiples while others seam to want all options up to 63/8 ? Really?: Claude finds: >Adding bigger ones is needed ok, lets look for a solution! >but cutting out some values could start a war... I hope the soldiers step out here and declare their credo to avoid the war! If I simply increase the table, you get a tired finger. I can make the longpress count quickly (like Source#...) instead of go back to 8, which I found more usefull and might start another "war"... How about the following middle way: Instead of all measures up to 64/8, I put: all measures up to 16/8 then in steps of 2 up to 32/8 then in steps of 4 up to 64/8 then in steps of 8 up to 128/8 then in steps of 16 up to 256/8 = 16 bars of 4/4 Those are 48 values, so its easier to operate than now, and you can sync a 4 times longer loop. You can get 15 bars of 4/4 = 240 or 8 bars of 15/8 = 120, but not 5 bars of 5/8 = 25. Those odd numbers of bars of odd measures you can still create with Mulitply, as explained in the other mail. The table could also have a different organization to find values quicker, like all measures up to 8/8 then multiples of 4/8 then multiples of 3/8 then multiples of 5/8 ... Do I make it clear? >you have some responsabilities now Mathias... now? yep, its heavy ;-) There are dozends of decisions like this one... Opinions of users with different aplications are very helpfull! Thank you Matthias ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 03:11:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA02585; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:11:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:11:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF10A1.D1D41720.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: Contact Mic Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:03:02 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1QvLf2.0.7l7.CE4_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > There have been many a times I've placed one ear up to a thick metal > pole and banged on it to hear "what's going on inside of it"... I know what you mean. :) > Does anybody out there know how to make a decent contact > mic. Searching on the net has come to a dead end. There aren't even any good > explanations as to what a contact microphone is. you wanna look for info on Richard Lerman. He's the guru on that topic. Search the net. You might start here: http://music.dartmouth.edu/~kov/soundArt/plinky.html * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 03:57:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12522; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:57:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:57:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FC4F48.5E34@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 00:44:11 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Looping in Oakland-gig announcement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fNOlf.0.XO2.yy4_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This Saturday,Roland(the Psuedo Buddha percussionist) and I will again be playing at the Temescal Cafe at Telegraph, 4920 near 51st from 1.30 to 3.30pm.(510-595-4069)In addition,esteemed list members Alan Imberg,Javier Miranda,Mark Sottilaro have expressed interest in sitting in.(please contact me for a semblence of order and forgive me for not contacting you individually,it's been a crazy week)Last time was wonderful,with a handful of loopers meeting face to face and Kim Flint!!! making an appearance.Please stop by if you can.I'll post again when I know who will be joining us. THANK YOU Scott Kungha Drengsen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 08:20:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24422; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:20:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:20:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FC910C.8A763B73@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 13:24:44 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looping in Oakland-gig announcement References: <37FC4F48.5E34@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rO7iZ2.0.Yh3.ML8_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com we want pictures and gossips for the loopers delight "people" page .=) Claude scott kungha drengsen wrote: > > This Saturday,Roland(the Psuedo Buddha percussionist) and I will again > be playing at the Temescal Cafe at Telegraph, 4920 near 51st from 1.30 > to 3.30pm.(510-595-4069)In addition,esteemed list members Alan > Imberg,Javier Miranda,Mark Sottilaro have expressed interest in sitting > in.(please contact me for a semblence of order and forgive me for not > contacting you individually,it's been a crazy week)Last time was > wonderful,with a handful of loopers meeting face to face and Kim > Flint!!! making an appearance.Please stop by if you can.I'll post again > when I know who will be joining us. THANK YOU > Scott Kungha Drengsen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 10:16:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18397; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:16:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:16:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <021d01bf10c9$86e6d950$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: build your own small mics cheaply Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:40:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"yvrVp2.0.jM2.xAA_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Bret, Thanks for the links to instructions on DIY mics and contact mics! Most useful! Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 10:56:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27778; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:56:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:56:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991007102203.007a07e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:22:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Looping in Oakland-gig announcement In-Reply-To: <37FC4F48.5E34@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ip3EZ2.0.1u4.noA_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What did you end up calling the project? Tim At 12:44 AM 10/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >This Saturday,Roland(the Psuedo Buddha percussionist) and I will again >be playing at the Temescal Cafe at Telegraph, 4920 near 51st from 1.30 >to 3.30pm.(510-595-4069) > Scott Kungha Drengsen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 14:00:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06850; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:00:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:00:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FCDD17.36DA@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:49:11 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looping in Oakland-gig announcement References: <3.0.5.32.19991007102203.007a07e0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XAG9n2.0.Ew.6qD_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim Nelson wrote: > > What did you end up calling the project? > > Tim Still undecided(hmmm there's another one)But I have to say THANKYOUTHANKYOU!! to everyone for some great suggestions.Yours Tim were especially traditional and imaginative I think "Lahara"will figure in somewhere. Scott Kungha Drengsen > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 14:12:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09852; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:12:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:12:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FCDF95.6ADD@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 10:59:50 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Pachabels Canon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wAUpm1.0.vb1._zD_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just dusted off this old chestnut and it made me curious if anyone on the list was playing it or any other similer compositions.Canons seem like wonderful studies for looping. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 14:26:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13789; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:26:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:26:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991007181928.29489.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.155.29.63] From: "David Potter" To: marlew@ns2.pc-intouch.com, Tinkurbelle@hotmail.com, Potterb@sonoma.edu, jeremypot@yahoo.com, Circle@Circle-of-Light.com, chaskapotter@yahoo.com, ckyman@nextlink.net, Potters@Vornet.com, pottercorey@hotmail.com, dal42@inreach.com, davemnz@yahoo.com, Gaptahoe@aol.com, KitchyK@aol.com, thieles@pacbell.net, potter@cruzio.com, gbutterrr@aol.com, mhull@aptoshs.pv.k12.ca.us, jeffreypotter@hotmail.com, bhalla@nde.vsnl.net.in, kebmo@gol.com, giannaitaly@yahoo.com, worldtree@earthlink.net, antarjyoti@earthlink.net, ragtop@got.net, loopers-delight@annihilist.com, mcarpenter@sccs@santacruz.k12.ca.us, mbiffle@svg.com, oskyjane@aol.com, Ratna@garlic.com, deruisa@wans.net, kachuck@earthlink.net, serenapotter@hotmail.com, pottertree@aol.com, vaughnpotter@hotmail.com, zev@sasquatch.com Subject: Fwd: Honda Hoax! Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:19:26 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"CftLx.0.g03.9IE_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From: "Aric Plumley" >To: "Mike Biffle" , , , > , , , > , >Subject: Honda Hoax! >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:30:58 -0700 > >This is what Honda.com had to say about this promotion. If it sounds too >good to be true... Please stop this before it is sent any further. > >To our Internet Customers: >Unfortunately, a false chain letter has been circulating on the Internet >indicating that Honda will give away free cars to people who circulate the >chain letter and accumulate "credits" in an account at their local Honda >dealer. >NO SUCH OFFER EXISTS. > >This is a hoax, pure and simple. Chain letters haven't changed much over >the >years, but since the advent of the Internet, they've become a bigger >headache. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this may have caused you. > >For more information on Internet hoaxes and chain letters, including the >Honda car giveaway, just follow the links below. > >http://urbanlegends.miningco.com > >http://www.snopes.com > >Again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Biffle >To: gds431@aol.com ; redsail@aol.com ; >chillyb@cruzio.com ; lahatch@dnai.com >; papadave55@hotmail.com ; >j.baskin@mindspring.com ; GPerry@us.ibm.com > >Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 8:25 AM >Subject: Fwd: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > >Ok... I usually never send these out, but this one is claiming to be a >promotion for Honda's anniversary. It's a long way down to the bottom to >see >what's going on, but check it out! I'm gonna try it... > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 14:58:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA22410; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:58:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:58:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991007113028.0135d5d0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:30:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: FWD: US Taxes In-Reply-To: <199909252017.UAA04431@m2.worldnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wbXB61.0.vL3.DNE_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I received the following and thought I would pass it on: --------------------------------------------------------- Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:35:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 22:19:16 +0200 Subject: US Taxes From: "William Clinton" To: (recipient list undisclosed) In celebration of the arrival of the next millenium, every US citizen that receives this message is pardoned of their IRS obligation for the millenial tax year. Please forward this message to every US citizen listed in your email address box (be sure to include mail lists for maximum effect). The IRS will track all internet traffic and automatically mark every recipient's tax obligation as met for the year 2000. Godspeed, William J. Clinton President of the United States The Whitehouse 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC 20220 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 15:15:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26650; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:15:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:15:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991007114608.0134cd70@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:46:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Software In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991007113028.0135d5d0@pop.mindspring.com> References: <199909252017.UAA04431@m2.worldnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"e1m4C.0.9P4.1cE_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry about that last msg... couldn't help myself. Hope this sort of on topic post clears my name. I've updated the Digitech PMC10 software I announced earlier this year. Now it's an editor. Edit banks, sets, pedals and patches (edit patch strings in hex). http://sean_.home.mindspring.com/pmc/index.html Here's a librarian for the Digitech DHP-55 http://sean_.home.mindspring.com/dhp/index.html Here's an Eventide H3000 remote control applet: http://sean_.home.mindspring.com/h3/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 15:26:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29670; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:26:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:26:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991007151823.007a0aa0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 15:18:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Pachabels Canon In-Reply-To: <37FCDF95.6ADD@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"1greq.0.9p6.T8F_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Brian Eno's three variations on it are great! (On "Discreet Music") And how about the "1812 Overture"? It's got cannons... sorry... At 10:59 AM 10/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >I just dusted off this old chestnut and it made me curious if anyone on >the list was playing it or any other similer compositions.Canons seem >like wonderful studies for looping. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 14:17:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11256; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:17:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:17:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991007180850.2930.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [205.155.29.63] From: "David Potter" To: mhull@aptoshs.pv.k12.ca.us, jeffreypotter@hotmail.com, bhalla@nde.vsnl.net.in, kebmo@gol.com, giannaitaly@yahoo.com, worldtree@earthlink.net, antarjyoti@earthlink.net, ragtop@got.net, loopers-delight@annihilist.com, mcarpenter@sccs@santacruz.k12.ca.us, oskyjane@aol.com, Ratna@garlic.com, deruisa@wans.net, kachuck@earthlink.net, serenapotter@hotmail.com, pottertree@aol.com, vaughnpotter@hotmail.com, zev@sasquatch.com Subject: Fwd: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:08:49 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_337abb_5b45da42$6462a210" Resent-Message-ID: <"a6UxR2.0.WK2.e7E_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_337abb_5b45da42$6462a210 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Mike Biffle" >To: gds431@aol.com,redsail@aol.com, chillyb@cruzio.com,lahatch@dnai.com, >papadave55@hotmail.com,j.baskin@mindspring.com, GPerry@us.ibm.com >Subject: Fwd: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda >Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 08:24:17 -0700 > >Ok... I usually never send these out, but this one is claiming to be a >promotion for Honda's anniversary. It's a long way down to the bottom to >see what's going on, but check it out! I'm gonna try it... > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_337abb_5b45da42$6462a210 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from gate.svg.com ([204.33.56.2]) by mailhub.svg.com; Thu, 07 Oct 1999 06:25:06 -0700 Received: from tauntontrade-bh.taunton.com (tauntontrade-bh.taunton.com [199.93.166.66]) by gate.svg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA43779 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 06:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: DCoffin@taunton.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tauntontrade-bh.taunton.com (8.8.8/8.6.11) id JAA04677; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailsrv.taunton.com(172.30.64.10) by tauntontrade-bh.taunton.com via smap (4.1) id xma004636; Thu, 7 Oct 99 09:18:13 -0400 Received: by mailsrv.taunton.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 85256803.004927FE ; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:19:03 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: TAUNTON To: "Mike Biffle" , Deborah M Byron , ccassidy@taunton.com, Cfrankel@aol.com, "Mike Biffle" , DCoffin@taunton.com, subversive@mindspring.com, Crossedout@aol.com, gnominus@earthling.net, psbuddha@texas.net, rauboto@dragonet.es, mdavig@sfsu.edu, jparada@pop.interport.net, gregmer@microsoft.com, kungha@earthlink.net, tcn62@ici.net, alan_i@sprynet.com, evening@ulster.net, murkie@panther.middlebury.edu, km15@cornell.edu, Nemoguitt@aol.com, patrick@his.com, PJBMHB@aol.com, David.Orton@mail.bl.uk, malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be, mhl21@columbia.edu, tcweller@purity.com, c.voit@vtx.ch, rswitzer@721.com, tianmus@aracnet.net, "Dennis W. Leas" , "Heather M. Claus" , GDunn@taunton.com, diane ericson , NFarmer@taunton.com, KKHowland@aol.com, jml123@erols.com, LBrown5487@aol.com, bribej@netmeg.net, kyumson@earthlink.com, TIMBEZLER@WORLDNET.ATT.NET, TrdwksInt@cwix.com, jcminier@snet.net, normmo@aol.com, STNICH@ntplx.net, h2rrumsey@aol.com, PROLL5082@aol.com, cfrankel@aol.com, kmeyer@taunton.com, Morriskan@aol.com, "Anthony Pasciucco" , PDukas@aol.com, MRay@taunton.com, marcy@cdsnet.net (Marcy Tilton), hlspentvalue@igc.org, LaWhite@taunton.com Message-ID: <85256803.0049271B.00@mailsrv.taunton.com> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:19:00 -0400 Subject: Fwd: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Now this is weird, and unlikely....but what's to lose? There's a sort of = cleaned up version of the story at the bottom of this message...good luck! David Return-Path: Received: from rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (rly-yd03.mail.aol.com [172.18.150.3]) = by air-yd02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Oct 1999 16:00:28 -0400 Received: from web2.uct.usm.maine.edu (web2.uct.usm.maine.edu [130.111.135.21]) by rly-yd03.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Wed, 06 Oct = 1999 16:00:17 -0400 Received: from portland1.usm.maine.edu (portland1.usm.maine.edu [130.111.135.171]) by web2.uct.usm.maine.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29067; Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:00:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199910062000.QAA29067@web2.uct.usm.maine.edu> Received: from PORTLAND1/SpoolDir by portland1.usm.maine.edu (Mercury = 1.45); 6 Oct 99 16:00:16 -0400 Received: from SpoolDir by PORTLAND1 (Mercury 1.45); 6 Oct 99 16:00:03 = -0400 From: "Alex E. Taylor" Organization: University of Southern Maine To: stockman@maine.maine.edu, sirthspian@aol.com, nforrest@perkinspa.com, reggieo@hotmail.com, Grossmanrd@mail.ports.navy.mil, srblair@sprynet= .com, WWhitten@maine.maine.edu, AllieB71@aol.com, nalini23@aol.com, westfieldct@msn.com, hincc@kcts.org, yogcoop@aol.com, dylan_cooper@yahoo.com, neveux@fbr.org, pbs@ttlc.net, Abbe@pobox.com, Yandian@mail.caps.maine.edu, SusanRob@usm.maine.edu, Lowell@usm.maine.edu, madenmaine@aol.com, cball62@maine.edu, dbarre71@mail.caps.maine.edu, theharbor@landmarknet.net, ellmahoney@aol.com, ethibeault@pivot.net, jpk98001@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU= (Jacqui), Jennifer King-Rogers , mthomp1@maine.rr.com Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:59:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Okay guys, let's hope this IS for real......I know it's a LONG way to the bottom, but get there........Alex E ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Pam Chapman" To: Alexet@Maine.edu Copies to: zebramus@epix.net, bobbyfis@aol.com, cbonetti@mail.flare.net, bjg3@cornell.edu, Bonnie@Griffith.com, ek_chuan@acadiacom.net, c.Campora@worldnet.att.net, cme4@cornell.edu, cfuller@jcsd.stier.or= g, cburrus@ibm.net, dart5678@pasco-isp.com, dchapman40@HOTMAIL.COM, Dbagley007@aol.com, Dwalker@sescva.esc.edu, reikiat3@aol.com, Garry@a-znet.com, gwenspencer@HOTMAIL.COM, pdc@pibil.finred.com.mx,= Jennymarion@HOTMAIL.COM, rthunder@fltg.net, Caseyldr@att.net, findholt@endor.com, senmen@flare.net, Kahiloa@megsinet.net, MFoster@pgi.com, HFTWEETY@LINKNY.COM, Psikpr1@aol.com, pjsmall1@yahoo.com, PierreGDC@cs.com, sg016@lock-net.com, robinw@maine.rr.com, sallyy@juno.com, Hortie55@aol.com, mefoster@mediaone.net, Tchoden7@HOTMAIL.COM Subject: Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda Date sent: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 03:07:09 PDT >From: Mark Hendrix >To: Dana Worsham , "'O. D. Wright'" >, Bruce McElhoe , Robert >Metzl , Greg Miller , jim >pippin , connie reeves , >charles roberts , Todd Ross , >"'Russ Marty" Simpson , Martha Simpson >, > Terese Stevens , Sam Tabor >, helennfred tweetmeyer , >Craig'n'Elaine Vechorik , Martha Warren >, > "William R. Welborn" , Cramer Elsie Wilborn >, Mike Wilborn , Bruce Wilson > , Ravinell Wilson , >"'phil2wheel@aol.com'" , Charles Binder >, Garry Bird , david >chapman , Dennis Chapman , >Pam Chapman , Frankie Coseglia >, DWright , Bobbi Ead >, DavidMM Gay , 'Kricket >George' , Joel C SAW Hendrix >, Margaret Hoffman >, Doug-Kimberly Hyde , > Steve Lisa Irwin , Leslie Johnson >, Phillip Johnson , Rick >Jones , eric kimbrell >, dean Klein Subject: >Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:00:22 -0700 (PDT) > >Well I doubt this stuff and will have a new honda for >sale at half price as soon as I get it but why not >give it a try... Read the message at the bottom > >--- Luke wrote: > > From: "Luke" > > To: "Jo Wittwer" , > > "Ravinell Wilson" > > , > > "Deb Stemple" , "Shaleen" > > , > > "Barry Scott" , > > "Rogers, Mellissa A." , > > "Marian Baker School: Costa Rica" > > , > > "Randy Pettus" , "Randy > > Pettus" , > > "Stewart O'Bannon" , > > "Montana and John" , > > "John Michael" , > > "David P Michael" , > > "Matt" , > > "Michael and Debbie Joyce" > > , > > "irisha1" , > > "Mark Hendrix" , > > "Carol Hendrix" , > > "Monteverde" , > > "Garris, Summer" , > > "Tracy's Gal" , > > "Brad Futrell" , > > "Liz Erisman" , "Jenny > > Craig" , > > "Frankie Coseglia" , > > "Costa Chamber of Commerce" > > , > > "Brian Bynum" , "Bob" > > , > > "Amadeo" > > Subject: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:40:16 -0500 > > > > Thought I would do whomever started this a favor. > > Read all the way to the bottom...... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: brian bynum > > To: blairderryberry@hotmail.com > > > > Cc: BScott@aol.com ; > > betty.coleman@mcquay.com ; > > dsanford@hiwaay.net ; > > bfutrell@mindspring.com ; > > oldways@bellsouth.net ; > > timpickford@hotmail.com ; > > browns420@hotmail.com > > Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:08 AM > > Subject: Fwd: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Coleman,Betty A." > > >To: "'brianbynum@hotmail.com'" > > > > >Subject: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > >Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:35:58 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Lein,Russ T. > > > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 1:16 PM > > > > To: Allen, Jason T.; Blair, Rita F.; Braun, > > Bernie W; Blair, Rita F.; > > > > Carter, Terry; Coleman,Betty A.; Docherty, Dale > > W.; Essig, Robert A.; > > > > Evans,Wanda F.; Graham, Marion E.; Hall, B. > > Joan; Hammon, Miles A.; > > >Hill, > > > > Charles J; Johnson, Don; Knopps, Eddie R.; > > Lambert, Laura M; Marquardt, > > > > Walt; Nasby, Dave; Peterson, Neil T; > > Rescenete,Pat; Thomas, Michael; > > > > Weathers, Ron; Whaylen, Dusty; Woods, Eric R,; > > Wrobel, Lynda L.; > > > > Yarbrough, Lisa D.; Riley, Burdell M. > > > > Subject: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Jean F. Lein[SMTP:jflein@HiWAAY.net] > > > > Reply To: Jean F. Lein > > > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:11 PM > > > > To: Russ (work) Lein > > > > Subject: Fw: [Fwd: ]Honda > > > > > > > > nothing to lose!!!!!and we really want one!! > > > > jean > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Joe Strong > > > > To: 'cbaker@maximgroup.com' > > ; > > > > 'dhendrix@epginsurance.com' > > ; > > > > 'jflein@hiwaay.net' > > > > ; 'williamh@usit.net' > > ; > > > > 'dcorts@dcclifecare.com' > > > > > > Date: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:06 AM > > > > Subject: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: John Boehms > > [SMTP:John.Boehms@perkinswill.com] > > > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 9:31 AM > > > > >To: Carolyn J. Wise; Charles Plummer; Christie; > > Cindy @ work; Cynthia > > > > >Sells; Doug; Doug&Jenny Horn; Jenny Jo; Kelly; > > Kerry; Kevin Ragan; Mary > > > > Jo > > > > >and Tony Boehms; Mother; Renee; Rusty; Scott > > Lantzy; Skey; Strong; > > >Steven > > > > >Hendrix; Shumaker's > > > > >Subject: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Chad Dorsey > > [mailto:cdorsey@EOA-Architects.com] > > > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:05 AM > > > > >To: 'JOHN.BOEHMS@PERKINSWILL.COM'; Kristina > > Greene; 'TAMI FAUDI'; > > > > >'Stephanie Mann'; 'Susan Golden'; 'antamio'; > > 'Laura Ross'; Chad Dorsey; > > > > >Kit Ozburn > > > > >Subject: FW: [Fwd: ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Ron Gans > > [mailto:Ron_Gans@ellerbebecket.com] > > > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:40 AM > > > > >To: Anna_Riggs@Dell.com; dynquest@feist.com; > > Gansman5@aol.com; > > > > >KdaKicks@aol.com; Rdasarmat@aol.com; Ben > > Birkenmeier; Chad Dorsey; > > >Cindy > > > > >Madden; Jesse Gans; Mary Sparks > > > > >Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------------------- Forwarded by Ron > > Gans/KC/Ellerbe Becket on > > > > >10/01/99 08:30 > > > > >AM --------------------------- > > > > > > > > > >e > > > > > > > > > > M E M O R A N D > > U M > > > > > > > > > > October 1, 1999 at 10:12 PM (03:12 > > AM GMT) > > > > > > > > > > TO: ddecker@warwick.net, > > hadecker@juno.com, > > > > >DeckerJay@aol.com, > > > > > cwhistorian@rogersark.net, Ron Gans > > > > > C: > > > > > > > > > > FROM: Tdopb96@aol.com > > > > > SUBJECT: Fwd: [Fwd: ] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Return-Path: > > > > >Received: from rly-yd01.mx.aol.com > > (rly-yd01.mail.aol.com > > > > >[172.18.150.1]) by > > > > >air-yd02.mail.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP; Thu, 30 > > Sep 1999 16:45:24 -0400 > > > > >Received: from east.sunflower.com > > (gateway.east.sunflower.com > > > > >[24.124.0.11]) > > > > >by rly-yd01.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; > > Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:45:10 > > > > >-0400 > > > > >Received: from sunflower.com ([192.168.28.109]) > > by > > > > >gateway.east.sunflower.com > > > > >with ESMTP id <113794>; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 > > 15:54:00 -0500 > > > > >Message-ID: <37F3CA7E.24879BB9@sunflower.com> > > > > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:39:26 -0500 > > > > >From: Dana Gore > > > > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) > > > > >X-Accept-Language: en > > > > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > > >To: Debbie Gans > > > > >Subject: [Fwd: ] > > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii > > > > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jenny Wise wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:04:37 -0400 > > > > >> >To: "Sharon Mayes" > > > > >> >From: Jenny Wise > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Fw: What do I have to lose? > > > > >> >Cc: > > > > >> >Bcc: > > > > >> >X-Attachments: > > > > >> > > > > > >> >>It's worth a try! > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>-----Original Message----- > > > > >> >>From: Angie Stump Denton > > > > > > >> >>To: Whitestone Farms ; Van > > Dyke Angus > > > > >; Trish > > > > >> >>Runde ; Tammy > > Riffel > > > > >; > > > > >> >>Susan Waters ; Shelia > > Stannard > > > > >; > > > > >> >>Shawn Purkey ; > > Sharon Mayes > > > > >> >>; Ron Frye > > ; Rod > > >Wesselman > > > > >> >>; Richard Dyar > > ; Quinton > > > > >Huncovsky > > > > >> >>; Pohlman Family > > ; Matt > > > > >Perrier > > > > >> >>; Matt Caldwell > > ; Mark > > > > >Schraad > > > > >> >>; Lynn Gordon > Gordon > > > > >[lgordon@hereford.org]> > > > > >> >> > [lgordon@hereford.org]>>; Kris Strifler > > > > >> >>; Kim Stump > > ; Kay & Darrell Denton > > > > >> >>; John Dickinson > > ; John > > > > >Denton > > > > >> >>; John Cook > > ; Jim Shirley > > > > >> >>; Jerry Cassady > > ; Jennifer > > > > >Sue > > > > >> >>Hotchkiss ; Jennifer Gatz > > ; > > > > >Jennifer > > > > >> >>Diehl ; Jason Cook > > ; Jami Stump > > > > >> >>; Don Laughlin > > ; David Gazda > > > > >> >>; Darren Beck > > ; Chuck Grove > > > > >> >>; Christy Couch > > ; Brian McCulloh > > > > >> >>; Bill Powell > > ; Angus Topics > > > > >> >>; Amy Remmert > > ; Amy > > > > >Cowan > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 5:50 AM > > > > >> >>Subject: Fw: What do I have to lose? > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>>I have no idea if this is real or not, > > but Janna and Susan are > > > > >exactly > > > > >> >>>right--what do I > > > > >> >>>>have to lose? > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>>Susan > > > > >> >>>>-----Original Message----- > > > > >> >>>>From: Nancy Allen > > > > > > >> >>>>To: Susan Hepburn ; > > Val Maki > > > > >> >>>>; Shelly > > Bracken > > > > >; > > > > >> >>>>Sherri Ricer ; Mel > > Fick ; > > > > >Mandi > > > > >> >>>>Heppermann ; Lani > > Heitgerd > > > > >; > > > > >> >>>>John Wallace ; > > Jill Wommack > > > > >> >>>>; Jenny Geisler > > > > >; > > > > >> >>>>Jennifer Rosales > > ; Jason Lewis > > > > >> >>>>; Ginger Nordwald > > > > >> > > >>>>; > > Debbie Jacobson > > > > >> >>>>; Dave Cobb > > ; Christine > > > > >Blank > > > > >> >>>>; Brian Nothstine > > > > > > >> >>>>Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 9:42 AM > > > > >> >>>>Subject: FW: What do I have to lose? > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>-----Original Message----- > > > > >> >>>>>From: Shawnna Maassen > > [mailto:shawnna_maassen@dbltpa.com] > > > > >> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 8:21 > > AM > > > > >> >>>>>To: 'ANITA PETERSON'; 'DAD'; 'H. STEPHEN > > LANDAU'; 'JENNIFER > > > > >LANDAU'; 'KIM > > > > >> >>>>>TINKER'; 'LIZ ERWIN'; 'LIZ SMITH'; > > 'STEVE DERRICK' > > > > >> >>>>>Subject: FW: What do I have to lose? > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>I'm sure that this cannot be accurate, > > however, just in case. > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>Dear valued potential customers: > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>Here at Honda we have been well known > > for over 20 years for > > > > >providing > > > > >> >>>>>>>the best in reliabillity, comfort, and > > style. Over the years > > > > >we have > > > > >> >>>>>risen > > > > >> >>>>>>>to be one of the top auto industries > > here in Japan. But that > > > > >isn't > > > > >> >>>>>enough. > > > > >> >>>>>>>We want to be number one in the US. > > Now our twentieth > > > > >anniversary > > > > >> >>>>>>>for making cars is here!!! This is > > the perfect opportunity > > >for > > > > >you and > > > > >> >>>>>us >>here at Honda to celebrate our 20 > > years of excellent > > > > >service. We > > > > >> >>>have > > > > >> >>>>>>>been trying to think of ideas to get > > more people to know about > > > > >our > > > > >> >>cars. > > > > >> >>>>>>>And with technology and e-mail being > > the wave of the future, > > >we > > > > >want > > > > >> >>>>>>>to jump on this opportunity. So we > > have set up a rewards > > > > >system to > > > > >> >>>>>>>repay those who help us spread the > > word about Honda. Our > > > > >marketing > > > > >> >>>>>>>staff has designed a special program > > that traces this message > > > > >as it > > > > >> >>>>>>>travels across the US. Anyone who > > forwards this e-mail, will > > > > >> >>>>>>>immediately have an account at their > > local Honda dealer opened > > > > >in their > > > > >> >>>>>>>name. This account will initially be > > opened with a credit of > > > > >$1,000 > > > > >> >>>>>>>toward any new or used vehicle at > > their participating > > > > >dealership. For > > > > >> >>>>>>>each person you forward this e-mail > > to, the amount of $200 > > >will > > > > >be > > > > >> >>>>>>>added to your account. If the > > recipients of this e-mail > > > > >forward it you > > > > >> >>>>>will > > > > >> >>>>>>>be rewarded an additional $100 for > > each person it reaches and > > > > >if they > > > > >> >>>>>>>also forward it your account continues > > to grow in $100 > > > > >increments. You > > > > >> >>>>>>>can log onto our website at > > http://www.Honda.com to check the > > > > >balance > > > > >> >>>>>>>of your account. If things go well > > and everyone participates > > > > >you > > > > >> >>should > > > > >> >>>>>>>see your account grow quite quickly. > > Follow the on screen > > > > >instructions > > > > >> >>>>>>>to order the specific make and model > > of Honda you want to buy > > > > >with > > > > >> >>>>>>>your account. We hope that this is a > > rewarding experience for > > > > >you and > > > > >> >>>>>>>us. Our goal is to reach over 1 > > million computers by the year > > > > >2000. > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>I thank you for your time and > > business, Sincerely, > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>Kageyama Hironobu > > > > >> >>>>>>>Senior Honda Marketing Advisor > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>First off, I just want everyone to > > know that this is the real > > > > >thing. > > > > >> >>>>>>>I forwarded this message to everyone I > > know about 6 months ago > > > > >> >>>>>>>and last week a Honda employee showed > > up at my house with my > > > > >brand > > > > >> >>>>>>>new 1999 Civic EX!!! It is so funny > > because I never believed > > > > >these > > > > >> >>>>>>>things worked and actually I sent this > > one as a joke to all my > > > > >friends. > > > > >> >>>>>But > > > > >> >>>>>>>they forwarded the message to and now > > I have received a new > > > > >car!!! > > > > >> >>>>>>>My best friend actually hasn't gotten > > his car just yet but he > > > > >checked > > > > >> >>>>>>>the balance of his Honda Account and > > it has reached nearly > > > > >> >>>>>>>$11,000!!! > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>If you like Honda's or you just want a > > new car, please forward > > > > >this > > > > >> >>>>>>>message it is the real thing. > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>Bob Stanley, Denver Colorado > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>Friends, > > > > >> >>>>>>>Look I know this sounds too good to be > > true, and that's what I > > > > >thought > > > > >> >>>>>>>too. But I called Honda's > > headquarters in Japan and spoke to > > > > >an > > > > >> >>>>>>>american representative myself and it > > really is true! They > > > > >assured me > > > > >> >>>>>>>that this the real thing! I still > > wasn't >convinced but I > > > > >called three > > > > >> >>>>>weeks > > > > >> >>>>>>>later and my Honda account >balance > > has reached the > > > > >unbelievable sum > > > > >> >>>>>>>of $12,500!!! So even if you don't > > believe this forward it > > > > >anyways so > > > > >> >>>my > > > > >> >>>>>>>account will >>continue to grow until > > I get my brand new > > > > >Prelude!!! > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>>>Steve Kelly, Minneapolis Minnessota > > > > >> >>>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Wise Guy Design > > > > >> Jennifer Wise > > > > >> (785)887-6620 > > > > >> jwise@ljworld.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Alex Elizabeth Taylor Honors Program 207-780-4330 I'm sure that this cannot be accurate, however, just in case. Dear valued potential customers: Here at Honda we have been well = known for over 20 years for providing the best in reliabillity, comfort, = and style. Over the years we have risen to be one of the top auto industries here in Japan. But that isn't enough. We want to = be number one in the US. Now our twentieth anniversary for making = cars is here!!! This is the perfect opportunity for you and us here at = Honda to celebrate our 20 years of excellent service. We have been = trying to think of ideas to get more people to know about our cars. = And with technology and e-mail being the wave of the future, we want = to jump on this opportunity. So we have set up a rewards system to = repay those who help us spread the word about Honda. Our marketing = staff has designed a special program that traces this message as it travels = across the US. Anyone who forwards this e-mail, will immediately have an = account at their local Honda dealer opened in their name. This account = will initially be opened with a credit of $1,000 toward any new or used vehicle at their participating dealership. For each person you = forward this e-mail to, the amount of $200 will be added to your account. = If the recipients of this e-mail forward it you will be rewarded = an additional $100 for each person it reaches and if they also = forward it your account continues to grow in $100 increments. You can log = onto our website at http://www.Honda.com to check the balance of your = account. If things go well and everyone participates you should see = your account grow quite quickly. Follow the on screen instructions to = order the specific make and model of Honda you want to buy with your = account. We hope that this is a rewarding experience for you and us. Our = goal is to reach over 1 million computers by the year 2000. I thank = you for your time and business, Sincerely, Kageyama Hironobu Senior = Honda Marketing Advisor First off, I just want everyone to know that this is the real thing. = I forwarded this message to everyone I know about 6 months ago and last = week a Honda employee showed up at my house with my brand new 1999 = Civic EX!!! It is so funny because I never believed these things worked = and actually I sent this one as a joke to all my friends. But they forwarded the message to and now I have received a new car!!! My = best friend actually hasn't gotten his car just yet but he checked the balance of his Honda Account and it has reached nearly $11,000!!! If you like Honda's or you just want a new car, please forward this message it is the real thing. Bob Stanley, Denver Colorado Friends, Look I know this sounds too good to be true, and that's what = I thought too. But I called Honda's headquarters in Japan and spoke to = an american representative myself and it really is true! They assured me that this the real thing! I still wasn't convinced but I called three weeks later and my Honda account balance has reached the unbelievab= le sum of $12,500!!! So even if you don't believe this forward it = anyways so my account will continue to grow until I get my brand new Prelude!!! Steve Kelly, Minneapolis Minnessota ------=_NextPart_000_337abb_5b45da42$6462a210-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 16:15:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10821; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:15:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:15:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bf10ff$8a4a6720$2f22dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <37FCDF95.6ADD@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Pachabels Canon Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:06:12 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"nHC7y.0.T52.DsF_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com scott kungha drengsen intoned: > I just dusted off this old chestnut and it made me curious if anyone on > the list was playing it or any other similer compositions.Canons seem > like wonderful studies for looping. Try Brian Eno's "Discreet Music", which contains some fascinating experiments using the Canon in question. Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 17:40:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00898; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:40:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:40:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004601bf1105$d44a21c0$b56fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , Subject: Re: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:51:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_337abb_5b45da42$6462a210"; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"x6ndA2.0.0K5.AZG_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey david potter, off topic is one thing but this has gone to far. save this crap for your friends not a list like loopers-delight. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 20:28:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06835; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:28:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:28:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <37FD37F9.6C08@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 20:16:57 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Just Wondering Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CIUFq1.0.zG1.TYJ_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is off topic, but at least there'll be no mention of Honda's. Since there seems to be a large contingency of Bay Areanites on the list, I was wondering if any of you, or anyone else for that matter, could inform me of the status of the magazine Mondo 2000. I live in the far unlit unknown, and haven't seen it on newstands in well over a year. It's sorely missed, as there was some interesting tech stuff inside. Thanks, Z. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 7 22:19:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA31036; Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:19:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:19:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Just Wondering Resent-Message-ID: <"7zQ833.0.RJ7.WEL_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >This is off topic, but at least there'll be no mention of Honda's. >Since there seems to be a large contingency of Bay Areanites on the >list, I was wondering if any of you, or anyone else for that matter, >could inform me of the status of the magazine Mondo 2000. I live in the >far unlit unknown, and haven't seen it on newstands in well over a year. >It's sorely missed, as there was some interesting tech stuff inside. >Thanks, Z. Hmmmm- as a former featured illustrator ( my favorite, an Eno illustration!), I can tell you poor ol' Mondo seems to have been dying a slow death for several years. My perception is despite several game attempts, they can't capture the fun the early Mondo's had. One factor might be that the whole "tech" thing really has been made mainstream by Wired, which itself appears to be past it's prime. It's truly a vicious life-cycle for pop culture magazines... I would be surprised to see another... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 01:06:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA05906; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 01:06:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 01:06:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b101bf1149$42a72bc0$8dc0aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <37FCDF95.6ADD@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Pachabels Canon Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:54:46 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"-Ddem1.0.z61._fN_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have an interesting CD that accompanied a book on chanting. The CD contains a choral version of Pachabels canon with the choir repeating "Hallelujah" with the cyclical music. Canons are cited as great examples of Western equivalents to chants. I believe there is power in repetitive music (hence my looping interest and purpose for being on this e-mail list). I remember listening to Pachabel's cannon when I was a kid and thinking how wonderful and beautiful it developed with every cycle. I've never attempted to play it but I think it would be a wonderful challenge to emulate Pachabel with contemporary equipment. ----- Original Message ----- From: scott kungha drengsen To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 10:59 AM Subject: Pachabels Canon > I just dusted off this old chestnut and it made me curious if anyone on > the list was playing it or any other similer compositions.Canons seem > like wonderful studies for looping. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 05:25:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA23235; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:25:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:25:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991007180850.2930.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 02:19:20 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: posting hoax crap to the list Resent-Message-ID: <"RP5ao1.0.SG5.aSR_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>Subject: Fwd: (Fwd) Fwd: Fw: FW: [Fwd: ]Honda etc. etc. etc. If it's not breathtakingly obvious right now: DON'T EVER DO THIS AGAIN. this has to be the most obvious, lamest hoax I've ever seen. (and I've seen just about all of them by now.) Please think before posting crap like this to a whole mailing list. It's ridiculously inconsiderate. Even worse, you left 28KB worth of headers in the damn thing, blowing away an ENTIRE digest with just this one useless post. I'm sure that several hundred Looper's Delight Digest readers were thrilled to have their time wasted by that. I'm not quite at the point of banning people who do this from posting forever, but the thought did cross my mind today. I'll save that punishment for the next time the guitar players bore us to death discussing their strings. ;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 08:55:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31718; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:55:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:55:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.56e6d890.252f3c28@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 08:23:04 EDT Subject: the originalminimalists To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"h4H9L2.0.216.I9U_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all... had the good fortune to attend the 30th anniversary reunion concert by Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co. up here at Cornell University ... in case you didn't know, they were the first performing ensemble to use synthesisers. Bob Moog was developing his stuff here in Ithaca and they were sort of the beta testers... anyway, truly great concert; performed pieces from the original repetoire as well as pulling a few of David Borden's more recent works... reason this is posted to the digest is because these guys were using loops in what was then very new ways... multi-metered contrapuntal figures repeating at different time lengths... remember this all pre-dated Eno, Bud et all... in the early 70's this music was'nt yet called minimalism... critics referred to it as "synthesizer music", "trance" music or simply boring because "nothing happened".. also an excellent set pf program notes which kinda covered the whole seminal period of pre- 1975... very beautiful AND entertaining... skeebo. Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 12:05:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12740; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:05:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:05:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jimb@ehmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99100811405403.15680@weba7.iname.net> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers Delight Posting Subject: RE: Pachabels Canon Resent-Message-ID: <"EfufR2.0.Yk1.O2X_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > -----Original Message----- > From: scott kungha drengsen [mailto:kungha@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 2:00 PM > > I just dusted off this old chestnut and it made me curious if > anyone on > the list was playing it or any other similer compositions.Canons seem > like wonderful studies for looping. This reminds me; I did a version of that piece (at least the first eight bars, which is as far as I managed to figure out - I'm not a "reader"), using the sound of a keypunch machine as a rhythmic base - this was back in the mid-'80s when such things were still clinging to life. There was a feature on those beasts that allowed for multiple copies of the same card, by wrapping the original on a drum which would then rotate against a row of contacts, and when there was a hole it would punch a corresponding one on the copy card. I had to make several hundred copies of one card, and after hearing the pattern "played" when it ran through the first stack, decided to record it with the new walkperson I'd just bought. Later, I was playing around on my Mini-Moog while the tape was running, and decided to try the old Canon. The bass line fitted fine, but when it came to the melody, things didn't quite work after the first four bars. I then discovered that by augmenting the beats so that! accents came on every second note, it was perfect. It just meant that instead of being a canon, it now more closely resembled a waltz. Go figure. Has anyone else done things with "mechanical" loopers? Jim Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 12:00:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11580; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:00:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:00:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991008114802.0082e580@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 11:48:02 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Loop content...JFK's LSD UFO in philly this SAT!! In-Reply-To: References: <19991007180850.2930.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"I3j0M1.0.Yr1.w4X_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey just a art/commercial interruption... doing some very loop oriented sound sculpting this sat oct 9 hope to meet a philly looper or two. peace, andre' ps -the other 2 bands are supposedly the stuff of Philly legend, and one of them opened for Roger Waters on his recent tour; they are described as somewhat like early, trippy Pink Floyd... Jfk's Lsd Ufo Sat October 9 10:00 pm at Pi Lam - 3914 Spruce St, Phila, PA with philly - psychedelic bands The Red King Temple of Bon Matin Jfk's Lsd Ufo site Project Object/Zappa tribute http://www.ufomusic.com http://www.projectobject.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 12:18:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15810; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:18:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:18:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:02:43 EDT Subject: Re: the originalminimalists To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"SpzSf.0.Z33.LNX_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Robby, Please scan those program notes and give us all a look-see. btw: I was a complete innocent when I walked into this smallish circus tent during the Monterey Pop Festival ('67 or '68?) and saw a synth (or was it a Uniac? I wondered) that was larger and taller than my current two-car garage. Four guys, including Bob Moog, (he grabbed my hand and introduced himself, that's how I know) were trying to get any sounds out of it at all. The successes were small with a lot of pulsing white/pink noise, and the smell and smoke of burning circuits in between. There was at least one other large electronic synth there too. Arp maybe? And a lot of sitars, tablas, tambouras...I believe Rickenbacker had a display too. The tent was very crowded, hell the whole Monterey Peninsula Fairgrounds were packed and the ambience in that tent was not at all what we think of as 'quality' sounds. But on the stage where Jimi, Janis, Otis, Grace, Bob (Dylan), et al were playing at various times... satori... ( I had to climb a damn high fence with barb wire at the top dozens of times to see who I needed to see, since every show was sold out. The security guys were too stoned to care most of the time and only hauled me out twice. Clint Eastwood bought me a beer too, since I was obviously a soldier (the butch cut hair) and didn't blend in too well, in spite of my bright yellow, paisley print bellbottoms. He saw me checking my pockets to see if I had enough money for one and he told the guy, "I'll get that beer for that soldier. Been to 'Nam?..." Thanks (for indulging me my remembrances), Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 13:42:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04858; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:42:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:42:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doug@pop.lightlink.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> References: <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:16:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: the originalminimalists Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"QbO1T3.0.TZ.IhY_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:02 -0400 10/8/99, Hawkeye255@aol.com wrote: > Hey Robby, > Please scan those program notes and give us all a look-see. Rob was too modest to mention that he did an awesome job on the graphic design for the program. Much (all?) of the text of the program is here: http://www.mothermallard.cornell.edu But you won't get to see Robby's design there. Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 15:06:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26428; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:06:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:06:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <016401bf11b7$228d5bc0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Pachabels Canon Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:01:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"A9ge23.0.eY2.b5Z_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jim, 026 or 029? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 15:03:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26040; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:03:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 15:03:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <015f01bf11b6$ef337430$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: the originalminimalists Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:59:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"JJKcZ2.0.mL2.V4Z_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Thanks (for indulging me my remembrances), Okay, Bill, I had to create a folder named "Cool Letters" and drop your message into it. That's one of the greatest "remembrances" I've heard. No apologies necessary! Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 18:20:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07547; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:20:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 18:20:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008181340.007a2990@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 18:13:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: the originalminimalists In-Reply-To: References: <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"piaEh3.0.OW1.qoc_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Actually, the second page I went to on the site had Robbie's poster on it, with a really cool mallard illustration. It's on the Calendar page, where I was hoping to find out whether the reunion is/was a one-shot deal or if they'll be performing anywhere else. Does anyone know? Tim >Rob was too modest to mention that he did an awesome job on the >graphic design for the program. > >Much (all?) of the text of the program is here: > >http://www.mothermallard.cornell.edu > >But you won't get to see Robby's design there. > >Doug > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 19:51:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27153; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:51:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 19:51:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991008191024.007a9a40@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:10:24 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Pachabels Canon/mechanical music In-Reply-To: <99100811405403.15680@weba7.iname.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2ojXJ3.0.DW4.Fed_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:40 AM 10/8/99 -0400, Jim Bailey wrote: >Has anyone else done things with "mechanical" loopers? Gyorgy Ligeti (influenced by Conlon Nancarrow) has written several pieces for player piano and also for barrel organ. Ligeti said "Nancarrow's magnificent music for mechanical pianos prodded me to think up ways in which living interpreters could manage such complex polyrhythms." In our "When not to loop" thread, many of us commented on difficulties in trying to synchronize non-MIDI ensemble performances; with this in mind, think of Ligeti's pieces for TWO player pianos! (He also wrote a piece for 100 metronomes, but that's another story altogether!) Several of these pieces may be heard on Vol. 5 (Mechanical Music) of the Sony set which is currently in progress to commemorate Ligeti's 75th birthday. While the Ligeti pieces are not truly looped, they do share several features with looping; prominent repetition of parts which develop complex "illusory rhythms" and phase relationships a la Steve Reich, the possibility of exact playback as an accompaniment for live instrumental performance (as on Etude 14a), precise control of tempi and dynamics, etc. Also, the potential may exist for using this type of instrument as a sort of mechanical looper by splicing the ends of the punched rolls, which still wouldn't qualify as real-time looping but could be interesting nonetheless. Have any of you heard of this being done? Tim <<Times New Romanhttp://www.futurenet.com/classicalnet/reference/composers/ligeti.html> and this one's interesting (andinteractive!) < From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 20:12:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31706; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:12:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:12:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: doug@pop.lightlink.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991008181340.007a2990@pop.ici.net> References: <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> <0.9c7b9b88.252f6fa3@aol.com> <3.0.5.32.19991008181340.007a2990@pop.ici.net> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:07:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: the originalminimalists Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"hmLEW1.0.cW7.NTe_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 18:13 -0400 10/8/99, Tim Nelson wrote: > Actually, the second page I went to on the site had Robbie's poster on it, > with a really cool mallard illustration. It's on the Calendar page, where I > was hoping to find out whether the reunion is/was a one-shot deal or if > they'll be performing anywhere else. Does anyone know? I'm in the new incarnation of Mother Mallard. Before last year it had been dormant since 1991. This was my second performance. There aren't any firm future performance dates, but some are in the works. Please write privately if you have leads on possible venues. Doug -- Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com Sonosphere (electric/improv music) http://www.sonosphere.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 8 21:33:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17041; Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:33:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:33:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910072129.RAA30876@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:29:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: Re: wrist problems Resent-Message-ID: <"w5qpq2.0.Cv3.uff_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi - I want to thank all the people who responded to my posting regarding wrist stress and playing. All of the responses have been very helpful. Frightening, but helpful. Apologies for not responding to you all personally. The moral of the story is loopers are good people. Thanks to Kim as well - this list has got to be one of the best lists ever, and I'm sure I'll get even more out of it whenever it is I manage to get my hands on an EDP. I'm saving the $3000 now. ;-) I've learned at least as much from the list as I have from the guitar lessons I've had. Thanks again, Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 9 11:05:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10371; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 11:05:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 11:05:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910091457.KAA14986@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 11:01:47 -0400 Subject: Gear For Sale From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Ip-VQ2.0.zA2.FVr_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FOR SALE: 1) Boomerang Looping Pedal 2) Deluxe Memoryman from Electro Harmonix 3) Q-Tron Enevelope Filter from Electro Harmonix all of this for 435.00 or best offer thanks, c.white From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 9 20:27:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21243; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:27:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:27:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f79b3c3c.25313620@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:21:52 EDT Subject: Re: the originalminimalists To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"i1j8z2.0.V05.Hnz_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/8/99 12:42:09 PM, doug@sonosphere.com writes: << > Hey Robby, > Please scan those program notes and give us all a look-see. Rob was too modest to mention that he did an awesome job on the graphic design for the program. Much (all?) of the text of the program is here: http://www.mothermallard.cornell.edu But you won't get to see Robby's design there. Doug >> - And Doug was too modest to mention he is a performing member of said Mother Mallard ... Doug you wailed... or whatever it is you synthesizer guys do... you did it! Rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 9 20:46:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25562; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:46:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:46:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.af8078be.253139bd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:37:17 EDT Subject: Re: the originalminimalists To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"gkdMW2.0.7t5.p_z_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/8/99 11:17:55 AM, Hawkeye255@aol.com writes: << Hey Robby, Please scan those program notes and give us all a look-see. >> - I can send a text copy to the list if there's wide-scale interest... it's very informative and fun look at the history of that time... other wise, you can check it all out at the website Doug Wyatt suggests... let me know if you would like it posted here as well. best, RA From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 9 20:54:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27667; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:54:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 20:54:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991009204453.007a8100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: taghairm@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 20:44:53 -0400 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: peter koniuto Subject: --one-CD printing in Boston area-- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Rc-XQ3.0.IQ6.o9-_t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Looperfolk: Does anyone know of a reliable and relatively inexpensive place in the Boston area to get one or two CDs burned from DAT? I was thinking about the Tape Complex on Haviland Street off Mass. Ave., but thought i'd run it by you folks for pointers. What's a good price? Until i get my own stand-alone.... Many thanks, peter koniuto ---------------- TAGHAIRM (Old Irish) noise, echo, a mode of divination by listening to the noise of water cascades... from: MacBain's Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language Gairm Publications, 1982 --------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 9 22:03:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09099; Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:03:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:03:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FFF00E.3F4A71E2@minds-eye.org> Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:46:54 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: old digital delays References: <19990919074317.2764.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GOJkj.0.vQ1.B1__t"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thought I'd run this question past you folks. I've got a couple Digitech 2 second delay pedals (PDS 1002 and 20/20 Multi-play) that have been having some problems recently. When the delay signal is held, it modulates (sometime extremely, sometimes lightly). Any ideas if these pedals are bound to become idiosyncratic mystery stomp pedals or is there some (easy-ish) way to repair them? Thanks for any help Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 03:05:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09817; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:05:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:05:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FFF3D4.B6B0B1EC@texas.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 02:03:02 +0000 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: --one-CD printing in Boston area-- References: <3.0.6.32.19991009204453.007a8100@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bhqJr.0.6A2.Id30u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com since i enjoyed the music from the chain tape so much, i will do cd transfers from dat for loopers for cheap. send a duplicate of your dat *not the original* & i'll put it on a mitsui silver cd-r for $15 + 1.20 shipping. let me know... bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 03:01:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA08739; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:01:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 03:01:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FFF1F2.8F883DCB@texas.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 01:54:59 +0000 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: old digital delays References: <19990919074317.2764.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> <37FFF00E.3F4A71E2@minds-eye.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Joqof1.0.hg1.2W30u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would pop them open & take a look for any trim pots inside; if they have 'em carefully mark the current settings (i use a fine point sharpie) then play around & see what happens. may solve your problem, may make really weird noises (always a +), may cause tham to make smoke. good luck! bob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 08:36:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA05828; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:36:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 08:36:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000901bf1319$a72e4200$42c0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Boomerang and DL4 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:10:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"1dCAx.0.RR.aE80u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I know it's been discussed here a million times, but I wasn't paying attention then. Sorry. Who's got the really great Boomerang prices?? I know some folks picked it up for under $400 (slightly). Where?? I'll call the bizillion places on their website if I have to, I was just hoping somebody could save me the phone bill. I was also wondering if anybody had heard anything new on the Line 6 DL4 delay. I was going to give them a call Friday but never got the chance. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 09:32:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16996; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:32:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:32:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380090F2.86956CEF@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:13:22 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang and DL4 References: <000901bf1319$a72e4200$42c0d6d1@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1lyzW1.0.w73.T490u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Elaine, I got mine from Musicians Friend www.musiciansfriend.com/ Its 479$ though for the 4 minute version. good luck, Jeff Elaine Walters wrote: > I know it's been discussed here a million times, but I wasn't paying > attention then. Sorry. Who's got the really great Boomerang prices?? I > know some folks picked it up for under $400 (slightly). Where?? I'll call > the bizillion places on their website if I have to, I was just hoping > somebody could save me the phone bill. > I was also wondering if anybody had heard anything new on the Line 6 DL4 > delay. I was going to give them a call Friday but never got the chance. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 09:47:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20374; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:47:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:47:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:32:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901bf1319$a72e4200$42c0d6d1@oemcomputer> Resent-Message-ID: <"uwSye1.0.i74.oK90u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From what I've heard, which isn't much, the Line 6 pedals are due out this month. In fact, if you check www.pedalman.com, he claims he is getting the first shipment of DL4's and MM4's, soon. He also claims that Line 6 upped the suggested retail price to $349. A power supply is an extra $25. http://home.earthlink.net/~romb/line6.htm -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Walters [mailto:ew37@bellsouth.net] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 6:11 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Boomerang and DL4 I know it's been discussed here a million times, but I wasn't paying attention then. Sorry. Who's got the really great Boomerang prices?? I know some folks picked it up for under $400 (slightly). Where?? I'll call the bizillion places on their website if I have to, I was just hoping somebody could save me the phone bill. I was also wondering if anybody had heard anything new on the Line 6 DL4 delay. I was going to give them a call Friday but never got the chance. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 11:15:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06188; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:15:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:15:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003401bf1362$81fe1b60$cbf44cc1@bruce> From: "Bruce Comens" To: References: <000901bf1319$a72e4200$42c0d6d1@oemcomputer> Subject: R: Boomerang sales (and a ? re drones) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:59:57 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"95C6U.0.GV.nXA0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just got a Boomerang for 425 from: krazy kat music 210.737.0523 www.krazykatmusic.com krazy2@flash.net So far (2 days) it's a lot of fun (useful too!), though I can see I won't be canceling my order for an EDP..... A question for Boomerang users: can somebody tell me if there's a way to set up a continuous drone without the slight pause when the loop restarts? Bruce Comens From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 12:21:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21073; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:21:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:21:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1b2c7136.253211ad@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:58:37 EDT Subject: Re: R: Boomerang sales (and a ? re drones) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"1fyEv3.0.ow3.WVB0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/10/99 1:15:14 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, bcomens@corelli.nexus.it writes: << A question for Boomerang users: can somebody tell me if there's a way to set up a continuous drone without the slight pause when the loop restarts? >> start the drone before you hit the record button.......i do this often and it seems to work.........also, "pianos and stuff" here in pittsburgh 412-828-1003 are selling the rang for close to $400.......ask for dave lewis.....its worth a call.......hope this helps..........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 12:21:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21099; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:21:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:21:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991010120511.007acea0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:05:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited In-Reply-To: <0.56e6d890.252f3c28@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wpug73.0.CF4.EbB0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Several months ago in a thread about the Akai Headrush, we talked about an audible click when stepping on the switches. This is sort of related to that... What I'm wondering is: When looping/recording acoustic instruments using a microphone, what are you guys doing to keep the mic from picking up the noise created by the switches? I'm not talking about a noise that's generated by the electronics, but rather the actual sound of the switch clicking. Most of my effects have (relatively) silent switches, but a few (my Headrush and all my old EH and EH-like things) have old-style "clickers" on 'em. I've tried muffling the switches with towels, but then it's hard to know what you're stepping on and you can still hear it anyway. Last week's contact mic thread may be something to try, or maybe a mic with a very tight unidirectional pattern, but I really like the sound I'm getting using a PZM (except for the clicking!), and I'm not in a po$ition to $pring for a $uper-directional mic right now. I really don't feel like modifying the switches on the gear either... Any ideas? Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 12:34:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23751; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:34:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:34:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910101613.MAA12815@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:17:45 -0400 Subject: tech questions for those who know alot more Than I From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YWMxp.0.Sb4.TiB0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i am recording to marantz 4 track cassette Pmd 740 tape machine and well when I do playback after i have recorded i get kinda a crunchy noise ridden nasty nasty sound when the *music* gets loud. Now i am not red lining it to hard so I am not sure what this is could it be that i need to compress it more when i record to 4 track? also on track 2 when i tweak my mid eq it begins to make this analog synth sound like "WHOOO wee Whooaa ooommmm" but it makes no sound when i keep the eq up high. what an ass pain this is! please offer me suggestions and i will be happy to try them out. thanks alot c.white From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 12:53:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29829; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:53:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:53:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.d22dd442.25321a2d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:34:53 EDT Subject: Re: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"Xd7cZ3.0.aq5.01C0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/10/99 2:21:40 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, tcn62@ici.net writes: << I've tried muffling the switches with towels, >> tim........i saw these "transparent noise reduction towels" once, but i dont remember where or when........:)..........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 13:14:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04942; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:14:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:14:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1ce8fbc9.25321f66@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 12:57:10 EDT Subject: electricity question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"ntNnf3.0.sn7.LMC0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then do?........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 14:05:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20329; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:05:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:05:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991010134408.007a3840@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:44:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: R: Boomerang sales (and a ? re drones) In-Reply-To: <0.1b2c7136.253211ad@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ZBU083.0.0N3.02D0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:58 AM 10/10/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/10/99 1:15:14 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, >bcomens@corelli.nexus.it writes: > ><< A question for Boomerang users: can somebody tell me if there's a way to > set up a continuous drone without the slight pause when the loop restarts? > >> > >start the drone before you hit the record button....... also, if you put a delay after the looper, you can smooth the seams a bit... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 14:04:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20319; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:04:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:04:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991010134059.007a5700@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:40:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited In-Reply-To: <0.d22dd442.25321a2d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kfryZ.0.053.3_C0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Let me guess, they were either woven of glass fibers or 100% see-thru acrylic, right? Now you've got me thinking of stick-on rubber covers that could go on over the switch that might be a little quieter. This isn't a problem when looping plug-in instruments (like 99% of the time). Hey, Mr. Torn. How does ya amplify that oud of yourn, anyway? Tim At 12:34 PM 10/10/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/10/99 2:21:40 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, >tcn62@ici.net writes: > ><< I've tried muffling the switches with towels, >> > >tim........i saw these "transparent noise reduction towels" once, but i dont >remember where or when........:)..........michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 14:52:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08516; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:52:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991010142832.0095a8c0@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:30:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: electricity question In-Reply-To: <0.1ce8fbc9.25321f66@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"2OQH12.0.ek7.mkD0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:57 PM 10/10/99 -0400, you wrote: >this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would >you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then >do?........michael Acoustic, of course. I have a nice assortment of percussion instruments, some melodic. I would stretch some rubber-bands across some posts to play bass lines and I've often used my vocal cords to emulate synth sounds including using my mouth as a resonant filter. **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** http://www.studiodust.com palace://studiodust.com:9996 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 14:58:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10226; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:58:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:58:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910101850.LAA19687@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:54:14 -0700 Subject: Re: electricity question From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_aqEe2.0.vv1.D0E0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com commit homicide!!! ---------- >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: electricity question >Date: Sun, Oct 10, 1999, 9:57 AM > > this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would > you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then > do?........michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 15:26:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24773; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:26:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:26:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991010142046.007d5b60@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 14:20:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: electricity question In-Reply-To: <0.1ce8fbc9.25321f66@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"sVcwF1.0.lq5.cTE0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, I've got a sick, prepared-tuning 12-string that I would have to torture everyone withing earshot with. I'd probably be banging on things and yelling quite a bit, too... Jeff McLeod At 12:57 PM 10/10/1999 EDT, you wrote: >this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would >you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then >do?........michael __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 15:34:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27004; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:34:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:34:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <3800E3FB.19D9@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:07:39 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: electricity question References: <0.1ce8fbc9.25321f66@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YPDV1.0.Zt4.WIE0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would > you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then > do?........michael I'd be a skin flautist. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 16:21:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08497; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:21:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:21:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001801bf135c$bbb3b960$3fb94e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: electricity question Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:19:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LzLjd2.0.l91.jBF0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Good question, Michael! Twice in the last two weeks I lost all electrical power, the first time for two full days due to Hurricane Floyd, the second time for 6 hours due to collapsed trees bringing down electric lines following a storm. So I reverted to good old-fashioned acoustic music, practicing sitar and surbahar by candlelight, something I quickly got accustomed to while studying in India where electrical power is always quirky and never entirely dependable. (Especially when you want to record your lessons :-} ) It was no problem for the short term, but I wonder about total (i.e., irreversible) loss of electricity. Since all my instruments are acoustic it would present no major problem as far as continuing to play and perform. But I'd sure miss looping and multiple overdub recording, as well as listening to all the recorded music I've managed to accumulate over the years . . . James Pokorny -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, October 10, 1999 1:19 PM Subject: electricity question >this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would >you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then >do?........michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 16:24:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09474; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:24:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:24:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:23:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: electricity question Resent-Message-ID: <"Dn1Pu1.0.7W1.lFF0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would >you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then >do?........michael I'd finally get around to really learning to play my accordion. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 16:51:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17272; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:51:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:51:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991010204429.74108.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: electricity question Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:44:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"eal9a1.0.xe3.RhF0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what >would > > you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you >then > > do?........michael We'd probably go into hiding. We're called the Electric Friends. Without the electricity, we'd just be "Friends" and I don't know if that sitcom is anything we want to be tied to. Mr. Tough The Electric Friends ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 17:35:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32461; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:35:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:35:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Cornhilio2@aol.com Message-ID: <0.e5ab196.25325a3a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:08:10 EDT Subject: Re: electricity question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Resent-Message-ID: <"dBsOx3.0.dj5.j1G0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would go on a mad bombing spree fucking everything up that i cam in contact with also i would carry a micraphone aaround with me recording everything From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 19:35:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08753; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:35:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:35:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37FD4830.CA66DED6@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 18:26:08 -0700 From: Jon and Val Erickson Reply-To: dragondigital@netzero.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: MPLS.St.Paul Loopers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"brb0r2.0.rf1.H6I0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have been a looper for many years, but I am new to "Looper's Delight". Are there any Loopers of any sort in the Twin City area? My wife and I own a "looper-friendly" studio here called Dragon Digital Media. You can view it at the following site: http://www.onlinerock.com/services/dragon/index.html __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 20:09:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20806; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:09:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:09:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.e5ab196.25325a3a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:48:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: electricity question Resent-Message-ID: <"p0XPO.0.7Y3.INI0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >i would go on a mad bombing spree fucking everything up that i cam in contact >with also i would carry a micraphone aaround with me recording everything I think you won't be recording much without any electricity. Unless you use one of those wax cylinder and a needle contraptions. The bombing might even be a problem, no electronic triggers and the gas for your molotovs has to come out of electronic pumps with credit card payment. good luck with it though, I'm sure you'll work something out. My drumset and percussion toys appear to be Y2K compliant, so I'm ok. With no email anymore, I'll have plenty of time to practice and actually learn how to play the damn things. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 20:18:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23367; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:18:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 20:18:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38012D22.A55E0F6E@cedar-rapids.net> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:19:46 -0500 From: Jon Southwood X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dragondigital@netzero.net, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MPLS.St.Paul Loopers? References: <37FD4830.CA66DED6@netzero.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HCFs73.0.TO5.ilI0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jon and Val Erickson wrote: > > I have been a looper for many years, but I am new to > "Looper's Delight". Are there any > Loopers of any sort in the Twin City area? My wife and I > own a "looper-friendly" > studio here called Dragon Digital Media. You can view it at > the following site: > http://www.onlinerock.com/services/dragon/index.html A friend of mine from grad school at the University of Iowa was from Minneapolis. When I visited him last winter (before he left for L.A. to attend a Film Music program), he mentioned having gone to see one of his friends perform a looping show (a duo I believe) at a small art gallery in a seedier part of the Twin Cities. He also described a crazy jam session that happened afterward with a walk-in trumpet player. I can ask him who his friend was that was part of the duo. (Maybe he's on this list, though, and will know that I'm writing about him--though I don't know him). I'll fire off an e-mail to my friend and post the results here. I mean, why shouldn't loopers, on or off the list, get some free publicity now and then, right? Cheers, Jon Southwood noj@cedar-rapids.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 10 23:34:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16782; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:34:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:34:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <0.fb9c2632.2532b253@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:24:03 EDT Subject: Re: electricity question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"FtwgE1.0.eS3.fXL0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would >you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you then >do?........michael First, I'd have to examine how dependent I am on electricity. Then I might go back and reread all of my John Cage books. Maybe I would disown the notion that I actually get to 'make' the music. But I doubt it. I believe that all art, fundamentally, is a response to terror. Before electricity, people made wonderful music. No need to get cliche-fever about that. I'm pretty sure that Erik Satie, for instance, broke as he often was, did not depend on 120VAC to compose. I have a lovely Martin, and as dependent as I am on the American power grid, there is no electric instrument I have that sounds quite like it. Perhaps the consequence of unplugging for me as a guitarist is more content over kHz. Kevin Brunkhorst http://members .aol.com/kb305/kb305/ Red Road the band http://r edroad.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 00:55:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07717; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:55:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:55:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991011045009.65379.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.213.37.19] From: "Seth Rivard" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Acid prg Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:50:09 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"2fwBT1.0.nc1.moM0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello All, I've been using the SF Acid program for awhile now, and think its great. How many of you out there use it, at least occasionally? I would like to hear what many of you have accomplished w/it, and would like to chat a bit about some of the features. Please email! Take care, Seth strivard@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 01:50:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA20547; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:50:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:50:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Cornhilio2@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c6af0be.2532d3bb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:46:35 EDT Subject: Re: electricity question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Resent-Message-ID: <"nfl6i2.0.Sl4.LdN0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com THEN I SHALL TAKE A GUN AND KILL ALL OF YOU TAHT DON THIONK IM AN YTHE CHOSSEN ONE SENT TO U BY ACID MY MOTHER AND UR LOVER From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 03:41:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12370; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 03:41:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 03:41:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:35:19 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: electricity question In-reply-to: <0.c6af0be.2532d3bb@aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ExAy91.0.wn2.nDP0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:46 PM -0700 10/10/99, Cornhilio2@aol.com wrote: >THEN I SHALL TAKE A GUN AND KILL ALL OF YOU TAHT DON THIONK IM AN YTHE >CHOSSEN ONE SENT TO U BY ACID MY MOTHER AND UR LOVER I dunno. I'd have thought the looping antichrist would be able to spell better than this. And have a better grasp of pop culture references. (It's Cornholio, not cornhilio, dumbass.) I call your bluff. Come on out here to west oakland and let us see what your loops are made of. That is, if the local drug gangs and their little gang war don't getcha first. Try to remember to take your medication before posting next time. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 04:05:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17214; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:05:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:05:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991011080030.006df67c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:00:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Acid prg Resent-Message-ID: <"EgTWu2.0.Ry3.saP0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi I use Acid a lot and I think it's really an amazing app.... Mike S. (from SOnic FOundry) should be still on this list too... ciao leo At 21.50 10/10/99 PDT, you wrote: >Hello All, > >I've been using the SF Acid program for awhile now, and think its great. > >How many of you out there use it, at least occasionally? > >I would like to hear what many of you have accomplished w/it, >and would like to chat a bit about some of the features. > >Please email! >Take care, > >Seth >strivard@hotmail.com > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 04:14:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18642; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:14:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:14:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38019A9E.ADD85A22@grape.no> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:06:54 +0200 From: mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Can you unsubscibe my old email address References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JslLz3.0.z14.cdP0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, Sorry for having to do it this way. I just changed companies with out unsubscribing from the list first. Can you unsubscribe me to mark @in2win.com and leave this one as is. Ive had my old mail forwarded to me so Im getting all looper mail twice!!! Thanks MArk Red From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 04:32:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22955; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:32:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:32:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910110828.EAA25300@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 04:32:59 -0400 Subject: Re: electricity question From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Fhl0u.0.AN5.n-P0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would just bow my waterphone ---------- >From: KB305@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: electricity question >Date: Sun, Oct 10, 1999, 11:24 PM > > >this just popped into my head, too much free time, i guess......what would > >you do if you lost all of your electricity, what type of music would you >then > >do?........michael > >First, I'd have to examine how dependent I am on electricity. Then I might >go back and reread all of my John Cage books. Maybe I would disown the >notion that I actually get to 'make' the music. But I doubt it. > >I believe that all art, fundamentally, is a response to terror. Before >electricity, people made wonderful music. No need to get cliche-fever about >that. I'm pretty sure that Erik Satie, for instance, broke as he often was, >did not depend on 120VAC to compose. > >I have a lovely Martin, and as dependent as I am on the American power grid, >there is no electric instrument I have that sounds quite like it. Perhaps >the consequence of unplugging for me as a guitarist is more content over kHz. > >Kevin Brunkhorst http://members >.aol.com/kb305/kb305/ >Red Road the band http://r >edroad.iuma.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 09:01:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16582; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:01:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:01:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:53:01 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Wow... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"EiPkl.0.Ui3.VtT0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mother Mallard reuiniting? That's kind of like Gentle Giant or the original Tangerine Dream trio reuniting, unlikely but possible. I'd love to read the text notes. And if anyone needs any webspace to put up that graphic let me know since I've got space. -TOdd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 09:20:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21154; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:20:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:20:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:12:31 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: No electricity? Awww..... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"bmqHO1.0.5q4.o9U0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I guess I'd either have to play my acoustic guitar or play drums or something. OR, if I found some energizer or duracell batteries, I'd run my Casio MT-240 with a full complement of PPG samples until those batteries died and then I'd have to go back to acoustic instuments again. -t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 09:28:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22993; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:28:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:28:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:02:15 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Minneapolis Looper Types. Yes, I'm one. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"gLhS71.0.OL4._3U0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yep, I'm a looper dwelling in the Minneapolis/St. Paul metro area. It's one of many musical things I'm into. I'm aware of some others but I'll let them speak for themselves. Not much call for this looping stuff in this area, but I persevere. Glad to hear there are others... -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 09:28:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23095; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:28:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:28:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Tim Nelson'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:12:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"Znf4c.0.DA5.ZGU0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've played shows with a tabla player here in Boston, in a highly loud setting. What he does is carry around a plexiglass construction that surrounds his intruments from left/right center and above. It seems to work great at keeping all the other intruments out of his signal. Maybe you can place the PZM in the middle of large plexi-glass sheet that is facing your amp and away from the switches? dk -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 12:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited Several months ago in a thread about the Akai Headrush, we talked about an audible click when stepping on the switches. This is sort of related to that... What I'm wondering is: When looping/recording acoustic instruments using a microphone, what are you guys doing to keep the mic from picking up the noise created by the switches? I'm not talking about a noise that's generated by the electronics, but rather the actual sound of the switch clicking. Most of my effects have (relatively) silent switches, but a few (my Headrush and all my old EH and EH-like things) have old-style "clickers" on 'em. I've tried muffling the switches with towels, but then it's hard to know what you're stepping on and you can still hear it anyway. Last week's contact mic thread may be something to try, or maybe a mic with a very tight unidirectional pattern, but I really like the sound I'm getting using a PZM (except for the clicking!), and I'm not in a po$ition to $pring for a $uper-directional mic right now. I really don't feel like modifying the switches on the gear either... Any ideas? Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 10:11:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01179; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:11:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:11:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014401bf13ee$3ad2f030$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:40:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"fQ-Y81.0.AT6.OZU0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Tim, You probably won't like my answer, but I recommend using different switches. I.e., modifying your equipment. Now I've never opened up an Akai Headrush but perhaps you could add a jack in parallel with the existing footswitches (two on a Headrush, right?) and make a remote footswitch. With quieter switches. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 10:11:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01181; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:11:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:11:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01cf01bf13f0$b52f2db0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: electricity question Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:58:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Fu1z51.0.aM7.5qU0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I see a market for a steam-powered, wax cylinder based looper! Guarenteed Y2K compliant! Even better, Y1.9K compliant! The boiler can be stoked with wooden/plastic cases of non-functional electronic gear. Actually, due to an ice storm a few years ago, I found myself in this situation. No problem! I lit my candles and oil lamp and jammed away on my instruments which are all acoustic anyway, except for my keyboard. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 10:15:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02484; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:15:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:15:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01d401bf13f0$f5fbec70$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Waterphone, was electricity question Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:00:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"jEp58.0.iY7.5sU0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Another Waterphone player! I've been looping mine alot lately. Which model do you have? How do you loop yours? What kind of pick-up/mic do you use? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 3:33 AM Subject: Re: electricity question >i would just bow my waterphone From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 10:25:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04726; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:25:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:25:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:14:42 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910111414.KAA16311@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"5waZE2.0.tc.g3V0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #133 October 7, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I began Oktoberfest EMUSIC-style with the month-long focus on the artist roster of the German label Manikin. The feature CD at midnight was "The Two Piece Box" by Detlef Keller and Mario Schonwalder. Manikin : http://www.manikin.com EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html Music by Tim Story and Hans-Joachim Roedelius was played in support of The Gathering XX in nearby Philadelphia. Music by Airsculpture and the feature CD at midnight was played in support of E-Live '99 in Nijmegen, The Netherlands. Both concerts will be on October 9. EMUSIC Events : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html The Gathering : http://www.starsend.org/20gather.html E-Live '99 : http://www.stichting-crew.nl/elive1999.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Tim Story Without Waves Threads (Eurock) Han-Joachim Rodelius Glass from Jasper Pink, Blue and Amber (Prudence) Alquimia First Light A Separate Reality (AMP) Alquimia Reflection A Separate Reality (AMP) The Tunnel Singer Ravens in Moonlight Ravens in Moonlight (none) Wendy Carlos City of Temptation Tales of Heaven & Hell (ESD) Jean-Michel Jarre Chants Magnetiques II Jarre Live (Dreyfus) Jean-Michel Jarre Oxygene IV Jarre Live (Dreyfus) Telomere Visitation Astral Currents (Evenfall) Kevin Keller Convergence Pendulum (Lektronic Soundscapes) AirSculpture Amazonian Lepidotera Attrition System (Neu Harmony) Theorise on Chaos 12:00 am Keller & Schonwalder Another Temptation The Two Piece Box (Manikin) Keller & Schonwalder The Quiet Room The Two Piece Box (Manikin) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long Oktoberfest focus on the German label, Manikin. The Feature CD at Midnight will be "Interkosmos" by Fanger and Kersten. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 11:35:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22904; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:35:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:35:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:44:17 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: wb5150@earthlink.net cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Just Wondering In-Reply-To: <37FD37F9.6C08@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"bW_nW1.0.MF2.OTV0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As I recall MONDO2000 is no longer around, the last thing I saw was a compiled graphic novel of sorts with the "best of.." kinda theme. One quick suggestions for a really nice catalog/publication that finally came out agains is the AMOK catalog, I suggest it to anyone looking for obscure publications with obscure topics about this obscure world, heh. On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 wb5150@earthlink.net wrote: |This is off topic, but at least there'll be no mention of Honda's. |Since there seems to be a large contingency of Bay Areanites on the |list, I was wondering if any of you, or anyone else for that matter, |could inform me of the status of the magazine Mondo 2000. I live in the |far unlit unknown, and haven't seen it on newstands in well over a year. |It's sorely missed, as there was some interesting tech stuff inside. |Thanks, Z. | | _______________________________________________________________________ James R. Pearce jamesrp@statenet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 12:12:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00827; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:12:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:12:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b34b7abc.25336428@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:02:48 EDT Subject: electricity question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"wFuDJ3.0.5X7.zeW0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com first, i would like to state that my question of the lites going off were not based on some y2k paranoia, i have more important things to be paranoid about.......second, i do not think bombing and shooting are very good alternatives, although i had not thought about this as a solution........third, yes, i could grab my accoustic and my bells and little drums etc but that still poses the problem of "looping", i was thinking more in line with,perhaps, player piano rolls or a room full of wind up music boxes, accoustic items that can loop.......being a solo player, i cant get many folk to play with me now with all my little "black boxes" intact, "hey, cant you play the allmond brothers?"......i agree that "looping" was around before electricity, chants, drum circles etc.......but i would be hard pressed to form a choir or a drum circle by myself......and for the life of me, i cant find the feedback switch on my banjo.......:)......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 12:30:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05831; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:30:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:30:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001801bf135c$bbb3b960$3fb94e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:03:21 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: electricity question Resent-Message-ID: <"mbMZQ2.0.jA7.uYW0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >It was no problem for the short term, but I wonder about total (i.e., >irreversible) loss of electricity. Since all my instruments are acoustic it >would present no major problem as far as continuing to play and perform. >But I'd sure miss looping and multiple overdub recording, as well as >listening to all the recorded music I've managed to accumulate over the >years . . . ...and the stage light and the public that comes by underground... Since I spend at least an hour/day in my NoElectricityRoom, I would not mind about music at all. The job I would have to give up. But I have land to plant on. I dont agree with TV anyway... But it would be a pity not to listen to you guys any more... ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 13:03:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13737; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:03:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:03:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00db01bf1408$c5d7a080$492310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "scott kungha drengsen" , Subject: Re: Pachabels Canon Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:47:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"e7NP12.0.4V2.2LX0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Scott Kungha Drengsen wrote: >I just dusted off this old chestnut (Pachelbel's Canon) and it made me curious if anyone on >the list was playing it or any other similer compositions.Canons seem >like wonderful studies for looping. And I reply: I haven't tackled this one yet, but I've worked out a few of my own. A real challenge is to build modulations into the harmonic structures. On the first Looper's Delight compilation CD there is an excellent canon, the title of which escapes me at the moment, but I am thinking of transcribing it (!) for my own performances. All royalties to the composer, of course. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 14:13:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32094; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:13:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:13:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38022097.E3983F0E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:38:31 -0400 From: "roguemus@ix.netcom.com" Organization: Rogue Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang and DL4 References: <00db01bf1408$c5d7a080$492310ac@Douglas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Q0DPO2.0.gw5.M7Y0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We have the Boomerang pedal for $399 plus shipping Dick Michaels Rogue Music NYC http://www.roguemusic.com Check out our online musical equipment auctions at http://www.auctionsoup.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 14:52:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10018; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:52:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F912C@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:38:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"LlFj-2.0.Rc1.IxY0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've heard from another local music store that the DL4 is coming the end of the month. I printed out the DL4 manual from Line6's website. It appears that the pedal is 24-bit from the documentation although I'm not sure if that literally means that the sampling rate is 24-bit for the looper, can anyone confirm that ? Also it mentions that the loop time is 14seconds long, is that true for the overdubs as well and not cutting the overdub time down like the Headrush ?? Thanks for any info. This pedal seems to have most of what the Rang does except the long loop time. Gary Weideman From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 16:54:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09518; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:54:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:54:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FC9E@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: electricity question Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:41:58 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"pjpLz.0.eY1.7la0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com well . . . after the chaos subsides, and if i'm still alive/or there's anywhere to play music in the debris and ruin of our world "culture" (maybe the electricity shutting off is what really killed the dinosaurs), i guess that i would take out the old acoustic bass, brush off the bow and start trying to play that thing again - - assuming that i hadn't had to use it for firewood to cook food somewhere down the line. would there the streets be full of millions of people shouting "i want my MTV"? yours in non-y2k paranoia. stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 17:12:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14311; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:12:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:12:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C72F@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: electricity question Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:33:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"m9wmk.0.X91.vfa0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You're in West Oakland? I'm over here on Lake Merrit! Micah B. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com] > Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:35 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: electricity question > > At 10:46 PM -0700 10/10/99, Cornhilio2@aol.com wrote: > >THEN I SHALL TAKE A GUN AND KILL ALL OF YOU TAHT DON THIONK IM AN YTHE > >CHOSSEN ONE SENT TO U BY ACID MY MOTHER AND UR LOVER > > I dunno. I'd have thought the looping antichrist would be able to spell > better than this. And have a better grasp of pop culture references. (It's > Cornholio, not cornhilio, dumbass.) > > I call your bluff. Come on out here to west oakland and let us see what > your loops are made of. That is, if the local drug gangs and their little > gang war don't getcha first. > > Try to remember to take your medication before posting next time. > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 17:46:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24577; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:46:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:46:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b9d0960e.2533b2ad@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:37:49 EDT Subject: JFK's LSD UFO To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"XGRDw.0.tI5.PZb0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just wanted to say these guys put on a great show last Sat. Nite at Pi Lam, in Philadelphia. andre' u gotta get to philly more often and if anybody else on the list gets word of a show these guys are playing, go and ck them out. Very Tastey stuff ! JFK had Lotsa cool gear ( I saw a vortex in Andre's rig )and very cool and subtle percussion loops. Andre was an excellent host and invoked the spirit of derek bailey too. all in all very cool set indeed. Temple of Bon Matin liked you guys a lot. BTW, There are more loop oriented gigs in Philly that are geared and placed soley in the realm of Loop based music where loopers can all fit and find a larger audience. Pi Lam is sorta one of em' but not the best known venue for all out drones. Please understand that Pi Lam is 1000 times more diverse than the usual bar or club you would ever play in Philly but its not known for the wide smattering of loop artists it has featured...& i dont mean that in a bad way cause the guys who run the place are totally cool while the audience is typically not one thats geared and revved up toward a very loop oriented approach...& moreover the people who run Pi Lam dig loop stuff & know the artists who are both obscure and very well known but the crowd that goes there once again just doesn't eat and breathe loops like some other venues in Philly. We were all kinda disappointed about the turnout ( about perhaps 25 or 35 people, tops. & maybe a few more. perhaps inclimate weather had to contribute to that turnout ) but please, keep in touch. On October 23 We play the Astrocade with Cock ESP Heres a link to a Piece from Bulb Records on Temple of Bon Matin - I think its from stain magazine. Below that you will find a link to The Astrocade. -------------------------------------------------------- Temple of Bon Matin http://scribble.com/~bulb/tobm.html ------------------------------------------------------ Link to the astrocade Astrocade 1021 Ridge Ave. (between 10th & 11th, just south of Spring Garden) http://www.astrocade.com -------------------------------------------------------- Warm Regards, John Price ( I was duh gee-tarr player for Bon Matin ) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 17:47:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24638; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:47:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:47:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: electricity question Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:44:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"3c9dA.0.zO5.Dbb0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey! Someone took my medication! Cornholio? bIz -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@annihilist.com] Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:35 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: electricity question At 10:46 PM -0700 10/10/99, Cornhilio2@aol.com wrote: >THEN I SHALL TAKE A GUN AND KILL ALL OF YOU TAHT DON THIONK IM AN YTHE >CHOSSEN ONE SENT TO U BY ACID MY MOTHER AND UR LOVER I dunno. I'd have thought the looping antichrist would be able to spell better than this. And have a better grasp of pop culture references. (It's Cornholio, not cornhilio, dumbass.) I call your bluff. Come on out here to west oakland and let us see what your loops are made of. That is, if the local drug gangs and their little gang war don't getcha first. Try to remember to take your medication before posting next time. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 18:29:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02563; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:29:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:29:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301bf1436$dd1fc6e0$6c32dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: electricity question Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:20:44 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"Yh-A-2.0.48.3Dc0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From: Jonathan El-Bizri > Hey! > Someone took my medication! > Cornholio? Couldn't be the "real" Cornholio, could it? Beavis' loveable alter-ego reaches the state where he can "be all he can be" mainly through the use of sugar, caffeine, and other over-the-counter stimulants. Some of us may have been confused by the pill-taking scene in "Do America", but what caused Cornholio to emerge were for the most part Sta-Awake etc... Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 18:40:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05317; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:40:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:40:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003101bf1437$5e713ee0$6c32dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F912C@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> Subject: New Year's Eve Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:24:10 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"CSbqW.0.LM.9Gc0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com So, folks, what's everyone's plans for either get-togethers or gigs for this allegedly mighty night? As it turns out, I'm probably going to be in London with me sweetie, but not averse to jamming per se - unless I can't use power converters on such things as the Zoom 2100, QuadraVerb, and the 7.6 Space Station... On the other hand, with the different voltage situation there - and I know I've vainly asked this before - what does my equipment have to fear from other-than-'merican electricity? Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 19:25:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16071; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:25:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:25:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:00:41 -0700 From: "wade a metheny" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: delay units X-Sender-Ip: 207.225.141.115 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JJ2sM.0.Yb2.Enc0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com does anyone know if it is possible to make a delay unit out of an old vcr? Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 19:34:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17984; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:34:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:34:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: <0.eeab1eb4.2533cc2a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:26:34 EDT Subject: Re: MPLS.St.Paul Loopers? To: dragondigital@netzero.net, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"BcTtd3.0.K24.-9d0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/10/99 6:35:15 PM Central Daylight Time, dragondigital@netzero.net writes: << I have been a looper for many years, but I am new to "Looper's Delight". Are there any Loopers of any sort in the Twin City area? >> Yes indeedy, although my looping is more of the sampler variety than the real-time Fripp-style. Are you looking to jam? - Bill Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 19:37:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18930; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:37:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:37:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.668901eb.2533ccba@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:28:58 EDT Subject: electricity To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"_mkcy1.0.374.kBd0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm sure that with all our collective, creative energy, we could create enough static between us to keep the gear going. I own an ancient Digitech GSP-7 thats been modded, the time clock on the delay has been reset, so the delay time is now 16 seconds, in case anyone is interested. Also, check out 3ms pedals. heres the link. Very cool ambient noise makers Eternally, A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 20:15:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27981; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:15:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:15:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3802783F.3098@dmans.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:52:31 -0500 From: "Mikell D. Nelson" Reply-To: mnelson@dmans.com Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: R: Boomerang drone References: <0.1b2c7136.253211ad@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"TbEVR3.0.mw4.HNd0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > << A question for Boomerang users: can somebody tell me if there's a way to > set up a continuous drone without the slight pause when the loop restarts? > >> It is difficult to get a "perfect drone" with a looping device because of the loop boundary. That's where the end meats the beginning. The splice in the tape, so to speak. However, I've had some luck with the following technique. Start recording, but play nothing for a moment. Then volume swell the note or chord. Let it ring for a bit then fade it out. Record just a bit more silence, then conclude the loop. What you have is a drone loop with a short silence right over the loop boundary. Step two involves layering another part. Swell the second chord (same or different) toward the end of the first one allowing it to ring. Record over the loop boundary, fade down and conclude layering after the original chord comes back strong. When done well this can create a drone that has very little volume change, and covers any artifacts that may occur at the loop boundary. Additional layers can be added for a more complex or morphing texture. -- Mike Nelson Boomerang Musical Products 800-530-4699 PO Box 541595 214-340-6913, Outside USA Dallas, TX 75354-1595 214-343-1038, Fax http://www.boomerangmusic.com mnelson@dmans.com, email "Some products make you sound better; the Boomerang Phrase Sampler makes you play better." From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 20:19:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29054; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:19:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:19:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910120013.RAA00904@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:17:16 -0700 Subject: Re: electricity From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CKj1K1.0.3l6.2rd0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Where's the'link'? ---------- >From: MyWarNerve@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: electricity >Date: Mon, Oct 11, 1999, 4:28 PM > > I'm sure that with all our collective, creative energy, we could create > enough static between us to keep the gear going. I own an ancient Digitech > GSP-7 thats been modded, the time clock on the delay has been reset, so the > delay time is now 16 seconds, in case anyone is interested. Also, check out > 3ms pedals. heres the link. Very cool ambient noise makers > Eternally, > A > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 20:59:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05828; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:59:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:59:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: phv@san.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991011204718.008ec680@pop-server.san.rr.com> X-Sender: phv@pop-server.san.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:47:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: No electricity? In-Reply-To: <199910120020.UAA29229@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"V8RsA.0.lv.4Ne0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In response to that question, I've been spending my musical time studying and practicing tabla ever since I discovered an Indian classical music school in my area a couple of months ago, so the loss of electricity wouldn't affect me at all. :) Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 22:04:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22691; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:04:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:04:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f9a7e0dc.2533ecea@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:46:18 EDT Subject: Re: No electricity? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"RBabf.0.DT4.XCf0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com maybe this is why they built such big places in the old days........natural delay.......made me think of the 10 trombonists in the 186 foot underground cistern that had a 45 sec reverb........also mr goodmans tunnel.........i guess i would put the guitar down and try to get the loudest movable soundmaker i could find and go out in search of delay.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 22:19:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26517; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:19:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:19:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Mike McGary" To: Subject: RE: No electricity? Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 21:16:56 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0.f9a7e0dc.2533ecea@aol.com> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"Po6eL3.0.b96.hbf0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > i guess i would put the guitar down and try to get the loudest movable > soundmaker i could find and go out in search of delay....... I once did a gig as a 5-piece cover band in a building in the middle of a park. It had the accoustics of an empty gymnasium. One snare hit would create a roar that lasted 10 seconds or more. Needless to say...the music was none-too-pleasing to the folks wanting classic rock tunes.... Interestingly, if you stood outside a door within direct sight of the band, virtually all reflections were removed and you got a clean sound. So, 2 people got a good show... -Mike McGary From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 11 22:34:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30733; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:34:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:34:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a526f0a1.2533f5b7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:23:51 EDT Subject: electricity (lack of) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"7duBd3.0.5q6.Plf0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If batteries are O.K. I'd make tape (magnetic) loops and play'em in a portable tape-player... if not I guess I'd sit myself in the bottom of the grand canyon (or some like place), make some noise, and listen to the echoes. cheers -jack From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 00:39:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA00962; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:39:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:39:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301bf146b$572e94f0$234badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: No electricity? Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 00:36:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"XHir61.0.fv7.bfh0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Perhaps I would end up doing things vocally - like David Hykes'(sp.) work with the overtone series and throat singing. His ensemble sings and records in vast acoustical places like cathedrals and monasteries, many of which have very long echo/delays. So I guess I'd become a monk :) - Larry Tremblay -----Original Message----- From: Nemoguitt@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 10:34 PM Subject: Re: No electricity? >maybe this is why they built such big places in the old days........natural >delay.......made me think of the 10 trombonists in the 186 foot underground >cistern that had a 45 sec reverb........also mr goodmans tunnel.........i >guess i would put the guitar down and try to get the loudest movable >soundmaker i could find and go out in search of delay.......michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 01:30:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11732; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 01:30:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 01:30:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001701bf1472$2594cfc0$0b32dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <0.f9a7e0dc.2533ecea@aol.com> Subject: Re: No electricity? Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 22:24:56 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ub_q6.0.bd2.VPi0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'd stick with string instruments, though if there were no electrocity [wink] wound strings would become a bit scarcer, wouldn't they? I want to take up the violin one of these days, if I don't develop arthritis or something. Drums would certainly take a bit of precedence, though the big Japanese drums are a bit tough to lug around; the tablas and doumbeks are more portable, and would appeal to the post-shutdown nomad musician type. Ditto on the tunnel aspects, though most acoustic instruments can't survive in an enclosed space with lots of drummers as well; last New Year's Eve, while people were playing mostly acoustic instruments in the living room of the house we were in, I found myself with the eBow and acoustic guitar, in the heavily-tiled bathroom at the end of the hall from them. It reverberated all the way out into the front of the house, providing an eerie backdrop to whatever they were doing. I've seen this kind of home setup several times now: a snare drum, and a doumbek or so; electric keyboard; and several folks with guitars, flutes and the softer wind instruments. The good old diggeridoo (sp) is wonderful if you can find someone to really make it resonate! Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 18:46 Subject: Re: No electricity? > maybe this is why they built such big places in the old days........natural > delay.......made me think of the 10 trombonists in the 186 foot underground > cistern that had a 45 sec reverb........also mr goodmans tunnel.........i > guess i would put the guitar down and try to get the loudest movable > soundmaker i could find and go out in search of delay.......michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 07:16:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA09705; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:16:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:16:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.dac27b5b.253470bf@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:08:47 EDT Subject: Re: old digital delays To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"G5sAE2.0.862.nRn0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/10/99 03:03:25 GMT Daylight Time, kevin@minds-eye.org writes: > I've got a couple Digitech 2 second delay pedals (PDS 1002 and 20/20 > Multi-play) that have been having some problems recently. When the > delay signal is held, it modulates (sometime extremely, sometimes > lightly). I don't know these pedals, but if they have a Knob for mod depth then you maybe need to replace the pot. Andy B From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 07:28:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11795; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:28:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:28:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.5f8a05db.253470be@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:08:46 EDT Subject: Re: Another Question o' the Week: Audible Click Revisited To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"crNKG3.0.h62.rRn0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Several months ago in a thread about the Akai Headrush, we talked about an > generated by the electronics, but rather the actual sound of the switch > > Any ideas? > paint the inside of the box with thick gunky antivibration paint. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 07:29:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA12362; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:29:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:29:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b35091db.253470bc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:08:44 EDT Subject: Re: tech questions for those (who know alot more Than I)& me To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"tXllS.0.Y52.jRn0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/10/99 17:33:24 GMT Daylight Time, magicicada@mindspring.com writes: > i am recording to marantz 4 track cassette Pmd 740 tape machine and well > when I do playback after i have recorded i get kinda a crunchy noise ridden > nasty nasty sound when the *music* gets loud. Now i am not red lining it to hard to tell from a short description but i) Demagnetise tape heads ii)Use a tape with the correct bias setting for the machine (have you changed brands lately? iii)check heads for wear, replace if necessary. > hard so I am not sure what this is could it be that i need to compress it > more when i record to 4 track? also on track 2 when i tweak my mid eq it > begins to make this analog synth sound like "WHOOO wee Whooaa ooommmm" feedback? under what circumstances? Were you recording on CH1 or 3 while playing back CH2? Well that's the best I can do at this distance, Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 07:50:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16834; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:50:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:50:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <035a01bf14a7$ce8cef60$b898adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: "Stephen Goodman" , Subject: Re: No electricity? Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 06:49:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Zp-KM.0.uf3.Yyn0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Stephen G. wrote: musician type. > >Ditto on the tunnel aspects, though most acoustic instruments can't survive >in an enclosed space with lots of drummers as well; last New Year's Eve, >while people were playing mostly acoustic instruments in the living room of >the house we were in, I found myself with the eBow and acoustic guitar, in >the heavily-tiled bathroom at the end of the hall from them. It >reverberated all the way out into the front of the house, providing an eerie >backdrop to whatever they were doing. > >I've seen this kind of home setup several times now: a snare drum, and a >doumbek or so; electric keyboard; and several folks with guitars, flutes and >the softer wind instruments. The good old diggeridoo (sp) is wonderful if >you can find someone to really make it resonate! the bath tub is one of my favorite amplifiers to run the didg into (tho' most of mine really don't need much amplification) . . . I just need a big enough solar panel to replace the wall wart on my Waldorf 4-pole and PDS 8000 and Pignose and the previously mentioned tub . . . of course what I should do is trade the Waldorf for a couple cases of beans and the Pig for a speed loader for the Colt Python ;) drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 08:18:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22638; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:18:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:18:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f7a52c1d.25347f60@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:11:12 EDT Subject: Re: wow... Mother Mallard history text To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id IAA21315 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZpZlu1.0.MD5.JMo0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey everybody. For anyone interested, here follows the program notes as writtien by David Borden for the Mother Mallard Reunion Concert last week at Cornell University. I will be posting the additional performance notes later today. best regards to all; enjoy the history lesson! Robby Aceto ------------------------------------------ Mother Mallard’s Portable Masterpiece Co. The Early Years (1968-1973) In 1966-68 I was composer-in-residence for the Ithaca City School District. I had come directly from West Berlin, Germany where I had been studying as a Fulbright student. In 1967 I introduced myself to Bob Moog whom I had heard about from several people around Ithaca. Bob had his company in Trumansburg which is a twenty minute drive from Ithaca. Bob was happy to see someone interested in learning and using his new invention, the voltage-controlled electronic synthesizer. To me, it looked like the cockpit of an airplane and hopelessly complicated. Bob though, took me under his wing and patiently taught me how to use it although I ruined some of his modules along the way. In fact, I hooked them up in such a bizarre way, not understanding what I was doing, that they redesigned several of the modules having not anticipated someone as totally unaware of the principles behind the design as I was. Otherwise they could have been facing many returned synthesizers burned out by neophytes like me. I didn’t realize Bob was using me as a test person until several months later when it was clear that I finally knew what I was doing. He explained that I helped in the research to idiot-proof the soon-to-be famous Moog Synthesizer. I had been chief idiot, which upon reflection, I enjoyed immensely. By 1968 I was hired by Cornell University as Composer-Pianist for Dance. Since the dance program was part of the Women’s Physical Education Program which in turn was administered by the Department of Athletics, we were a very insignificant part of the operation, and although my title looked good on paper, in reality I was listed in the directory as a Phys. Ed Instructor. I later learned that this was the lowest paying staff job at Cornell. But the good thing was, I had no administrative responsibilities, no meetings to attend and had only to prepare for teaching one half of one class; the rest was improvisation which I had been doing since I was ten years old. This left me plenty of time to work late into the night at the Moog Company (Bob had given me a key to the place long before) discovering new ways to compose using the huge modular Moog and the four-track Scully tape recorder. Soon, I was using the synthesizer in all of my compositions including the ones I did for dance concerts as part of my job. In connection with the Dance Program, Peggy Lawler, the primary dance instructor/choreographer would arrange for students and staff (she and I) to travel to New York City to see modern dance concerts. This is when I discovered Merce Cunningham and the musicians around him including John Cage, Gordon Mumma, David Behrman and David Tudor. Seeing them perform live electronic music forever changed my way of thinking about performing music. Especially electronic music. Up until then, I thought of it as making tapes in a studio; after that I always thought of electronic music as something to be performed live even if occasionally pre-recorded tapes were involved. In 1969 the Cunningham Company visited Ithaca for a performance and some dance workshops. It was then that I got to know Gordon Mumma and David Tudor who would later participate in one of the first performances of Cloudscape For Peggy (composed for Peggy Lawler’s choreography in 1970) which was one of my first all-synthesizer pieces designed for live performance. Late in 1968 I decided to start my own live electronic (and amplified acoustic) group for giving live concerts. I wanted to present very new and startling work. I remember getting ideas from Mumma and Tudor as well as Source Magazine, which was an avant garde music publication out of Davis California which featured new pieces by young composers. One of the first things I thought about was a name for the new ensemble. I wanted it to be ironic in some way. I certainly didn’t want an academic sounding name. It was on my mind almost constantly for several days. During this time, while shopping in a supermarket, I leaned over the frozen food section and the friendly senior-citizen face of Mrs. Smith of Mrs. Smith’s Frozen Pies hit me and immediately I thought of my own grandmother, Lena Belle Mallard. She was called Mother Mallard because she had had her picture taken for the Boston papers to show five generations of Mallards of which she was the progenitor. So OK, Mother Mallard had a nice alliteration, but what else? The word “masterpiece” followed because it began with an “m”, and besides we were always joking about how it was no longer necessary nor desirable to think in terms of masterpieces. So now I had the image I wanted; a friendly grandmother behind which we would perform outrageous pieces like Robert Ashley’s Wolfman, a feedback assault on the ears while miming the movements of a crooner. A couple of days later the word “portable” was inserted before “masterpiece” as an added oxymoronic juxtaposition. Mother Mallard’s Portable Masterpiece Co. was born. Our first concert was in May of 1969 in Barnes Hall on the Cornell University campus. The concert included Wolfman by Ashley, Pitch Out by Allen Bryant (for which Bard Prentiss made the amplified string instruments played with metal bars and files), a piece by Dan Lentz which included a sinister looking man (Steve Drews) taking collection in the audience, and finally some “classic” pieces by Morton Feldman and John Cage. The audience loved it. After this, I planned to compose pieces for live electronic performance using synthesizers. I talked with Bob Moog, and he agreed to let us use whatever was available. My approach to composition was changing quickly away from the complex atonal methods being taught in most universities at the time, to a simpler, tonal way of doing things. I had been very impressed with Terry Riley’s In C, so I started to work with drones and complex rhythms, bringing my jazz background into play. My work as a dance accompanist was affected by this also, as I tried out various repeated patterns as part of my daily job. Then later at night I would work them out at the Moog Studio. Using the four-track tape recorder also appealed to me because it accentuated the contrapuntal approach I had always favored when composing. Now I could compose one person’s part all the way through, and then add another person’s part on top with each part retaining its individual integrity. This technique is commonly called layering, but this kind of layering was more extreme - like working with a cantus firmus, a very old medieval idea. My first tonal steady pulse piece for the Moog was Easter which was composed for a dance student in April of 1970. I finished it a few days before Easter, hence the title. Steve Drews and I performed it live with tape at Sage Chapel on the Cornell campus on Easter Sunday, 1970. This was the first live performance using a MiniMoog. We had the prototype. At about this time, Moog got a call from someone at Trinity Church in Manhattan asking if he could recommend or supply a live performance involving the Moog Synthesizer for one of their Lunchtime Concerts. By this time Moog was becoming famous as an inventor due to the brisk sales of Switched-On Bach, an LP release by Walter Carlos on Columbia Records. It was a collection of Bach classics realized on the Moog. It made the cover of Time Magazine. So Bob recommended me, and I asked Steve Drews to play Easter with me, using a prepared tape. This was the first public performance in New York City using a MiniMoog. Even though the official debut of the MiniMoog was months away (by Dick Hyman), we took the prototype with us to New York. When we got to Trinity Church we found out that we hadn’t been billed as Mother Mallard or David Borden but as THE MOOG SYNTHESIZER. This kind of billing would dominate our appearances for the first few years, because no one else was performing with Moog Synthesizers except for Walter Carlos and Richard Teitlebaum. Carlos almost never performed live and Teitlebaum was in Europe. During the summer of 1970 I worked Summer School and was Barbara Lloyd’s accompanist. She was one of Cunningham’s star soloists and is now known as Barbara Dilley. She has been president of Naropa Institute. Working with Barbara was a joy, and I often brought a Moog to the dance studio to improvise live on. I also worked with visiting filmmaker Ed Emshwiller and did the soundtrack for his film Branches which he produced hurriedly with summer students. In addition, I composed Cloudscape For Peggy for an Ithaca College performance by Peggy Lawler. It was during this summer that I really got to know Gordon Mumma (he was involved with Barbara at the time) who greatly enhanced my knowledge of the perils of live electronic performance. At the time, he saw to it that all of John Cage’s ideas for Cunningham were re alized electronically. The going joke was that Cage, whom everyone loved, and who was the pioneer of live electronic performance had trouble plugging in his electric razor. So Gordon took care of the technical problems. Steve Reich was another visitor to Ithaca that summer. Cornell was his alma mater, and he was also interested in seeing the Moog Studio. We have been friends ever since. Finally, Phil Glass passed through Ithaca the following fall resulting in a friendship that still continues. During the summer of 1970, Steve Drews also started composing pieces for Live performance using Moog Synthesizers. With the pieces I had done for the Cornell Dance Program, plus Steve’s new pieces, we had enough for an entire program of our own music using nothing but Moogs with an occasional guest performer on another instrument. We asked Linda Fisher to join us in giving some concerts. She agreed, and in 1971 finally agreed to become a permanent member, contributing her RMI Electric Piano as well. The Moog Company kept receiving requests for concerts and/or demonstrations, so they would always recommend us. That’s how we started travelling around giving concerts. We also made a deal to buy several synthesizers over a four year period. We had gone to local banks for a loan, but were unsuccessful. So Bob let us pay him with quarterly payments, and refused to charge us interest. In the fall of 1971, when Bob left the area, Mother Mallard rented a rural farmhouse in Enfield, NY, between Trumansburg and Ithaca. Chris Swanson, a jazz composer and recent user of the Moog Studio, found the place. It was perfect. Quiet, isolated and with low rent. Together we shared the place as our work studio. Chris worked mornings and afternoons. We took the nights. It was here that we really came into our own, rehearsing almost every night, drilling ourselves on how quickly we could change the dozens of patch cords between pieces and blindly set up intricate sounds (i.e., without testing them audibly before playing them). During the winter of 1971-72, Merce Cunningham came to Binghamton which is an hour from Ithaca. With him came some additional staff: his touring manager Jane Yockel and his costume manager, Margaret Wood. Margaret had been part of the Cornell Dance Program. She drove from Binghamton and brought Jane for dinner at my house. No sooner had they arrived than one of the worst blizzards in Finger Lakes history hit. Jane and Margaret were snowed in with us for four days and nights. This turned out to be a blessing. Jane and Margaret, in partnership with Mimi Johnson, (a young woman who managed John Cage’s affairs) were in the midst of starting their own managing team for performing avant garde artists. Performing Arts Services was partially born under my own roof, and soon Mother Mallard was one of their first clients. It was through the efforts of Artservices, as it became known, that MMPMC began to be frequent performers in various SoHo performance spaces, as well as the WBAI Free Music Store. These appearances got us reviews in several places including the NY Times. We also reached a much wider audience than we would have otherwise. During this time, Steve and I (and sometimes Linda) composed new pieces to perform. A few of our pieces, like Steve’s Ceres Motion employed the use of a mobius strip tape loop. Gordon Mumma turned us on to these. They came in various time lengths. You could tape something live and at the end of the tape, turn off the record button and play it back instantly. Each of us had a stopwatch to keep track of the loop lengths. The first part of Ceres Motion is what is now commonly called a pad. Steve and I recorded the pad (around 4 minutes), played it back instantly, and being a loop, it would go on forever until we turned off the tape recorder. When the pad is played back for the first time, the piece changes into an up tempo mantra with Steve improvising patterns on a Modular Moog and with his non-playing hand, adjusting the knobs of a fixed filter bank accentuating different harmonics for each section. Stev e found very exotic an beautiful sounds on the Moogs, and was a master performer on the ribbon controller. My stuff kept to more simple sounds with the emphasis on multi-metered contrapuntal figures that repeated at different time lengths. In the early 70s, this kind of music was not yet called minimalism. So critics would refer to it as “synthesizer music” , “trance music” or simply deride it as boring because “nothing happened”. By the fall of 1972 we had developed enough music to perform three or four concerts without repeating anything. We started looking around for a recording label. The audiences loved our concerts, and we thought our music was as good as any other new music, and that our performances had achieved a professional polish while at the same time sounding fresh and original. We made many phone calls, talked with many record executives, sent out countless demo tapes to no avail. After several months of no takers, I decided to start my own record company. Margaret Wood at Artservices thought it was a great idea. The only problem was, I only had half the money I needed. Margaret had looked into the costs of mastering, pressing and cover printing. I forget how much this amount was, but it was something like $1500. I only had half, and couldn’t get a loan. One of the people I approached about becoming a partner in starting a record company was Elliot Saltzman, a very funny guy, and recent Cornell graduate who had started his own advertising agency. He declined, but talked to Judy Borsher about it who was interested. She called me out of the blue, but I was reluctant because she was still a student and didn’t want it to appear like I was taking advantage of a younger person who stood a good chance of losing her investment. Unknown to me at the time, Judy had been deeply moved by the music we were making, so she welcomed an opportunity to get involved with the production of our work. Judy, who would later take Linda Fisher’s place in Mother Mallard, made it possible to start Earthquack Records. Mother Mallard as an image had long ago gone from a friendly senior citizen to a duck. In fact, fans used to give us various duck gifts at concerts. So we went with it. We had a duck decoy perched on top of one of the synthesizers. The first LP was “in the can” by early fall, but due to delays in printing the cover and pressing the disks, the first LPs weren’t available until late January of 1974. We had it distributed through JCOA (Jazz Composer’s Orchestra Association), a group pioneered by jazz composer Carla Bley. Artservices, seeing that producing independent LPs and getting them distributed was not as difficult as they had imagined, started Lovely Music modeled after this first Earthquack LP. Meanwhile, director Billy Friedkin had heard some re-broadcasts of our WBAI Free Music Store concerts and was interested in having me compose music for his new horror film. We were all invited to the cast party of The Exorcist at the end of shooting, and Billy introduced us around to everyone as the people who were doing the soundtrack. In the end, he would use only three short pieces I did for The Exorcist. He asked me if I was considering a move to Hollywood, and I said no. 1973 ended with offers from both Hollywood and Europe. I didn’t want to go to Hollywood, Steve didn’t want to go to Europe and Linda wanted to do her own thing. A few months after that film party in Manhattan, Mother Mallard would change forever. In 1974, after having turned down an offer to tour Europe, and deciding not to relocate in Hollywood, Mother Mallard continued the same circuit. In New York City, the WBAI Free Music Store and downtown venues like the Paula Cooper Gallery, the Kitchen, and various lofts. Otherwise, there were college and university concerts, mostly in the northeast. By the end of 1974 Linda let us know that she wanted to pursue her own path and by the summer of 1975 Judy Borsher joined us. There were a couple of interim keyboardists, but they were just temporary replacements. Judy had become part of the Mother Mallard “family” and had spent some time at rehearsals at our country studio. What I didn’t know was that when we weren’t there she would sometimes sit at the keyboards and the play the parts. Judy proved to be excellent in every way, surprising us with her fluid keyboard technique and rapid grasp of the technology. By the end of 1975 Steve Drews decided he wanted to give up music and pursue a career in photography (he has his own successful photography studio in St. Louis). He was replaced by Chip Smith, a wonderful keyboardist who had played with Chuck Berry, including his Carnegie Hall concert. This group has remained in my memory with great affection. Parts 5-8 of the Continuing Story of Counterpoint were written especially for this ensemble. After several months Steve left Ithaca and withdrew his pieces from our repertoire. From that point until now, Mother Mallard has played only my compositions. Also with this group, I shouldered the financial responsibilities for all of the music equipment except for Chip Smith’s Fender Rhodes which was the second polyphonic keyboard in our collection. When Linda Fisher left, I bought her RMI Piano. Now Mother Mallard had three Modular Moogs, two MiniMoogs, and the two electric pianos. Judy contributed her van for our transportation and her tremendous organizational business sense in finding funds, booking and managing our concerts. Although we were constantly broke, we really enjoyed touring and playing. This group was the last of the Moog-based bands. Unfortunately we never made a studio recording although there are some live tapes somewhere from a few concerts. It lasted from late 1975 to the summer of 1978. I then decided to spend more time with my family and give up the band for awhile. Now, in 1999 I can look back at some really great musicians who have contributed to our performances over the years , but having had both my guitarist son Gabriel, and keyboardist stepson Sam Godin take part has been very special. - David Borden From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 09:08:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01338; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:08:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:08:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.49627312.253489cc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:55:40 EDT Subject: Re: No electricity? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"5a27d1.0.HS7.__o0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com we are monks already A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 09:38:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09135; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:38:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:38:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: 12 Oct 99 09:27:01 -0400 From: "Jonathan Matis" Subject: upcoming show To: alice , Travis Hartnett , dc improv , "Loopers-Delight" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Windows32) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: "Jonathan Matis" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19991012091431.fc3fd112.in@fhserver.freedomhouse.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id JAA05518 Resent-Message-ID: <"aKMJJ1.0.XM1._Rp0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ***** For immediate Release Metatron Press CD release event featuring Zitt/Matis and Comma at Galaxy Hut 2711 Wilson Blvd Arlington VA 22201 Monday, October 25th - 9:00 pm Galaxy Hut's first ever "Fringe music night" will feature experimental improvised music by the guitar/voice duo Zitt/Matis and the vocal trio Comma. The groups will perform independently and mixed in various combinations. Joseph Zitt and Jonathan Matis perform primarily improvised music for voice and guitar. Jonathan plays electric guitar with a variety of preparations and signal processors and Joseph sings, chants, and sounds in languages known and unknown. Their music draws freely on the vocabularies of free jazz, experimental classical, ambient, and world musics. The musicians' backgrounds in improvisation, composition, experimentation, and classical, religious, jazz, and rock musics combine to create new music that is challenging as well as mysteriously absorbing. Comma is an ensemble specializing in music that involves improvisation and mindfulness practices. Their repertory includes newly composed musical works, performance poetry, chant from various early traditions, and group improvisations. Techniques include many extended uses of the voice as well as electro-acoustic environments. The show will serve as a CD Release event for Metatron Press, which is issuing the first three items in a new series: * "Even the Widest Aardvark Outdreams the Gnu" by Zitt/Matis * a self-titled release by Gusty Winds May Exist, a shakuhachi/recorder duo featuring Nancy Beckman and Comma member Tom Bickley * "Animals: electronikazoomusique", a collection of electronic works and mixes by Comma member Matthew Ross Davis. For more information about the artists, please see: http://www.metatronpress.com/artists/zittmatis http://www.artswire.org/comma http://www.metatronpress.com/artists/gwme http://www.metatronpress.com/artists/mrd For information about Galaxy Hut, see http://www.galaxyhut.com For more information please contact Jonathan Matis j_matis@yahoo.com 202 296-5101 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 09:07:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01255; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:07:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:07:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.98ebf813.25348abf@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:59:43 EDT Subject: Re: No electricity? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"7kOcJ2.0.wi7.w3p0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Read "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock. More evidence to support your theory. A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 09:07:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01253; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:07:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:07:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.fba59b12.25348971@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 08:54:09 EDT Subject: Re: old digital delays To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"hDGTg2.0.TP7.a-o0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com to much input signal before the pedal? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 10:09:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17653; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:09:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 10:09:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:48:48 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910121348.JAA19504@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: JFK's LSD UFO Resent-Message-ID: <"VHM_p3.0.Cr2.Mnp0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 395 > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:37:49 EDT > From: Jprice01@aol.com > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: JFK's LSD UFO > > Just wanted to say these guys put on a great show last Sat. Nite at > Pi Lam, in Philadelphia. > [...snip...] > We were all kinda disappointed about the turnout (about perhaps 25 or > 35 people, tops. & maybe a few more. perhaps inclimate weather had to > contribute to that turnout) but please, keep in touch. > > Warm Regards, > John Price ( I was duh gee-tarr player for Bon Matin ) Hi John, Perhaps the Gathering with Tim Story and Hans-Joachim Rodelius at St. Mary's Church drew some of the crowd you were expecting to see. > On October 23 We play the Astrocade with Cock ESP Ouch!! Bad timing. That's the next Gathering with Coyote Oldman and Monk. Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 11:00:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31305; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:00:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:00:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: No electricity? Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 07:33:07 -0700 Message-ID: <001701bf14be$b36bee40$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.49627312.253489cc@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"IhfZc3.0._D6.nWq0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have never deleted so many e-mails on any thread at LD. This thread has marked some sort of record for me. Like an old car, I'm just waiting for it to poop over and die. | -----Original Message----- | From: MyWarNerve@aol.com [mailto:MyWarNerve@aol.com] | Sent: Tuesday 12 October 1999 5:56 AM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: No electricity? | | | we are monks already | A | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 12:09:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20332; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:09:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:09:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380359DE.2AD2CBE7@node.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:55:10 -0400 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: * - node - * X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: No electricity(!) References: <199910121402.KAA15217@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eF8A02.0.zK3.cWr0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry if someone's beaten me to the green punch on this or if this seems to be off/at-the-extremes-of-the-topic, but so far I haven't seen a discussion in this thread about the environmental impact of electronic music production. This is a particular concern of mine, coming out of an electronic arts Master's program where visiting artists would arrive with multiple "refrigerators" on wheels and, you may be sure, more than one power strip to fire up the watt-hungry gear so chilled. My thesis attempted to address this footprint left by electronic art by presenting a video installation (as it took place in the out-of-doors, I dubbed it an "outstallation") off the grid; most of my time not actually creating video and its soundtrack was spent researching reliable electronic generation means that have the least environmental impact. Solar cells have achieved some advances but, sadly, affordability is not among them. My best solution was a air/noise-polluting gas generator, not really appropriate for those Morton Feldman loops and the club you might want to heft it into might not ask you back...or to stay. Thoughts? The targato and the shenai are lovely alternatives to wall-warts and, with practice, you can even, for example, shift their pitch and/or get chords out of them (one multi-phonic nutjob saxophonist of my acquaintance once prefaced his discussion of this technique by observing, "Now...it ain't like a piano..."). But, our gear fetish of choice, its means of sounding, this list from that website -- these all accept the means of electrical production and consumption as a sine qua non (thus, this thread). I'm not looking to foment any Luddite bashing of prevailing technological imperatives (on on-line listserves like this, such bashing is, at least, markedly compromised) but I do wonder what an environmental impact study of just the popular music tradition alone, as it is manifested at the turn of the millenium, might reveal. "MP3 kills"? ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 12:12:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21234; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:12:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:12:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:59:34 EDT Subject: Re: JFK's LSD UFO To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ijn6a1.0.SC4.3ir0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Pi Lam show was not billed as a loop show or anything in particular which was why there was probably not a large number of people present - also combined with the weather which was kinda miserable... I throw in loops here and there but the music Bon Matin plays does not have much room for wide open textures. but as a loop lovin geetar player i always try to slip extreme sorts textures in the mix when theres a chance. often times its either arpeggiated gr-30 patches looped thru the gt-3 or samples of gr-30 improvs or other homemade sounds i get tweaked out of ACID then sampled back into the sp202. the crowd that was at the Story show on The 9th tends to be either appalled & or taken aback by temple of Bon Matin or they totally love it. And its a love it or hate it kinda thing with bon matin because we are typically very ... very unlooper like & visceral...full of noise, covert sarcasm and nowhere near polished in most areas with reverence for only that which is loud ; moreover we are a train wreck that is often heavy and hard & sloppy by both intent and design. In other words its modern rock n roll but not like u expect it to be. also Bon Matin is really the brainchild of Ed Wilcox and I just play guitar and gig and instigate in Bon matin. this is also like the bazillionth incarnation of Temple of Bon Matin and for all of us involved its another branch of what we refer to as "the Army of Mars" which flows thru bon matin and AKASH AKASH is a group with both me and Ed playing with Kali Morgan on Vocals, Nudity and Authority ) which is a lot more melodic, subtle and loop oriented but jazzy and more refined and song/texture/visually focused with a lot of pronographic spoken word, humor, nudity, bondage - sex - sleaze porno imagery thrown in behind it. I always say we like to play new jazz standards and that the whole thing is one big caberet of what is desirable. in akash, we are not gimicky ( but im certain many people love to think that we are )Akash is beginning to find that an audience can go a lot of places with adventurous music they wouldnt normally listen to especialluy when the context of loop music is uprooted from its usual locations and environments and its a true journey and dialog u get going. the hardcore sex dialog & imagery are a stark conrtrast to music which seems very tranquil, spritual and melodic but theres a lot of subtley being thrown out to the point where its just as loud psycholigically as say bon matin is a physical train wreck. AKASH plays adult book stroes in Center city Philly and Manhatten...no joke...and we get a decent mix of men women and mostly couples aged 25-40 who turn out for our shows...our website is in perpetual progress but we are linking to the fetishesboutique web site ( our singer Kali Morgan is the owner of the sexshop ) and we expect that we will get more hits on the fetishes site than we would going the usual "we are musicians with a web page route" and we could possibly have a greater audience and more control and input into how we present ourselves and directly build our own momentum based on the business that is being done on that site as it stands now. Different topic Also my jamman went bye bye and just died on me 2 weeks ago...never liked its as much as my zoom 508 pedal ...go figure...so im not going to replace it. but i am Looking for a new loop tool. Ive been doing fake loops from my gt-3 and get by well so far but i'm seriously considering the line 6 DL4 whenever they are shipping or perhaps a headrush the guys at 8th street music here in philly warn me to steer clear of the plex because they were all returned defective when they sold em and they continue to say that they are out of production. but i have still not had a chance to see and hear one for myself and have never played with one. No one in Philly has them or knows about them - new or used any clues on a plex in Philly anybody ? Regards, JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 13:20:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07966; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:20:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:20:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38035E11.A4AFA998@columbia.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:13:08 -0400 From: Morgan Hamilton Lang X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: electricity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5pQA1.0.AU5.awr0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm a bike freak and could go on about looping and bikes, so in response to Michael's question regarding looping in the absence of electricity, what immediately comes to mind is the bicycle. Everyone knows how to stick playing cards in the spokes, but we could also use a stationary bike to propel a whole series of, ahem, cyclic noisemaking devices, leaving our hands free to play along on the tuba or whatever. Fun and good for us, yes? A room full of chain-driven musical machines. You could have gear levers to "mute" some instruments while starting others, allowing some instruments to "freewheel" while others go into high gear. Otherwise, windmills and water wheels could of course be used to directly operate musical machines without relying on electricity, whereas solar panels, geothermal vent turbines, and wave-action generators could all be used in conjunction with AC converters and batteries and stuff to produce electricity. Dennis' boiler would work, too. If we had to, we would come up with our own ways to make electricity. Maybe a subsequent question would be: what sort of looping music would you make if you had to keep your electrical consumption to an absolute minimum by relying as much as possible on mechanical means? MHL. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 13:44:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14451; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:44:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:44:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a8c9b19a.2534c666@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:14:14 EDT Subject: Re: electricity To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ace_x3.0.Wo1.fps0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry, crap programming. members.rotfl.com/3ms/ They also have a very cool "collective" for innovative pedal designers. Good luck. A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 13:39:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13058; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:39:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 13:39:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991012164148.16225.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:41:48 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: mt@motiontek.com Subject: Multi-effects (GT-3 mostly) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"4vD1i.0.NH7.aJs0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey all- I was wondering - I think you all were raving about this unit earlier, but I'm not sure. I currently am using a Quadraverb GT with a wah & overdrive, and was planning on adding an EH microsynth and a Echoplex, whenever the (*&&%$^%**&! I can get ahold of one. THEN, I spent 2 hours the other day playing with the GT3, and started to think I could make my life a lot easier if this thing can do what I think it can, like get rid of my wah, forget about buying a separate controller pedal, and ditch all the xtra cables. (there is no posted manual) My questions about the unit are: 1. Do you have a lot of control over synth parameters - is it the equal of the microsynth in this regard? 2. Do you have full control over the rhythms used by the slicer, gate and others? Any input about this unit, as well as comparable units from other manufacturers, would be very cool. (Most of the ones I saw had no synth effects or anything like that.) Also, I heard the wah sucks. Is this true? Thanks, MT ===== ************************************************************* This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. Thanks. ************************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 14:41:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32557; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:41:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:41:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991012182831.9694.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [204.46.196.72] Reply-To: jmrobert@bigfoot.com From: "Jeffrey Robert" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jamman and Drum Machine Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:28:30 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"JvRJK.0.Yx6.ztt0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings, I want to connect my jamman to a drum machine. Can anyone suggest inexpensive drum machines that work well with the jamman. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 15:27:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14043; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:27:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:27:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38038BBD.2E89FA7C@node.net> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:27:57 -0400 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: * - node - * X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Opcode's Dead, Jim... References: <199910121708.NAA04702@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qx6eR1.0.5s2.wdu0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com El Grupo Loopo: Over the last week or so, the MAX list has been nostril-deep in conspiratorial theorizing over the absence of Opcode from the commercial radar screen. Here's the latest tale of ill non-communication from Opcode from said list: "Despite their release of (Vision) 4.5.1 they sure seem dead. I've been waiting for 2.5 weeks for a challenge response for (MAX) 3.5.9. Multiple phone calls & email with no response.... drag..." ...and sturm. Another gentleman from the self-same list provides this sintillating bit of QT/v. hush-hush scuttlebutt: "Begin rumor<< As happens so often in this industry, Gibson had purchased Opcode to get into this high tech thing, and Opcode had submitted in order to get a consistent cash flow. Gibson wanted dsp boxes for the guitar market--- The Opcode engineers have tried to follow their true calling instead, but the powers at Gibson eventually lost patience and cut off funding. Arguments and lawsuits ensued, and last week Gibson invoked the final solution and fired nearly everybody. The way I hear it, little remains except some left-over inventory of less popular products (probably inculding Max), suppliers refusing to ship unpaid for popular products, and a building lease. The intellectual rights involved will probably be tied up for a long time. Current employees seem to be 1 salesman, 1 shipping clerk, and 1 tech support. >>end rumor" A private note Kim sent me a few months ago is alarmingly prescient about this current turn of events re: Gibson in re: Opcode, although who dared believe how current that turn would be? Not me, sweetie darlings. Is this part of Gibson's brilliant re-structuring of its assets, up-to-&-including das EDP? The targato looks ever more alluring... ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 16:02:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23899; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:02:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:02:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991012155129.007aec80@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:51:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: Steve Reich question In-Reply-To: <37DBB74C.F1B2C8AF@toddreynolds.com> References: <19990912042458.94812.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"8s6Vu2.0.JN5.59v0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i know, it's an old thread, but... played a looping gig Friday night where the pre-show music was the Kronos Quartet's recording of "Different Trains". 'twas very inspirational. m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 16:16:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28402; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:16:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:16:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.383421c1.2534ef0f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:07:43 EDT Subject: Re: electricity To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"_HdKo.0.sO6.1Lv0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com < Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: synth-l@american.edu X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: mixdown X-Sender-Ip: 207.44.83.219 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iyu_u2.0.AI5.p7v0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear list: can you get a decent mix with pc speakers. if you are producing with a pc audio setup do you think that a speaker set with subwoofers would give you idea of wht your mix will sound like. i thonk they are small enough to give you a radio sound and with a subwoofer you arent cheating yourself on the bass.its my theory but i am a month from finding out. -- iVillage.com: The #1 Women's Network -- Real Solutions for Real Women. Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 16:19:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29736; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:19:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:19:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:48:45 -0700 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: musical saw X-Sender-Ip: 207.44.83.219 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lkBaZ3.0.ux4.K3v0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com you can buy a musical saw online and get thereminy noise. just punch in "musical saw" in any search engine(i like metacrawler) and you can sound electronic even after the light go off -- On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:33:26 bedwellm wrote: >You're in West Oakland? I'm over here on Lake Merrit! > > Micah B. > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com] >> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:35 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Subject: Re: electricity question >> >> At 10:46 PM -0700 10/10/99, Cornhilio2@aol.com wrote: >> >THEN I SHALL TAKE A GUN AND KILL ALL OF YOU TAHT DON THIONK IM AN YTHE >> >CHOSSEN ONE SENT TO U BY ACID MY MOTHER AND UR LOVER >> >> I dunno. I'd have thought the looping antichrist would be able to spell >> better than this. And have a better grasp of pop culture references. (It's >> Cornholio, not cornhilio, dumbass.) >> >> I call your bluff. Come on out here to west oakland and let us see what >> your loops are made of. That is, if the local drug gangs and their little >> gang war don't getcha first. >> >> Try to remember to take your medication before posting next time. >> >> kim >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >> kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >> http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> > > -- iVillage.com: The #1 Women's Network -- Real Solutions for Real Women. Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 16:44:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04474; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:44:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:44:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Mike McGary" To: Subject: RE: mixdown Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 15:35:18 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"_SiZc1.0.oA.Rhv0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > dear list: can you get a decent mix with pc speakers. You cannot get a reliable mix with ANY one set of speakers. I use Event 20/20 powered reference monitors. It's hard to get any cleaner and flatter than they are. Each monitor has a 70 watt dedicated amp for the tweeter and a 130 watt dedicated amp for the 8" woofer. But....everytime I mix down...I have to listen to it through different sets of headphones, through PC speakers, through boom boxes, through home stereos, car stereos...you get the picture. Each of these brings out something else about the mix. Sometimes the conga will come blaring out on a particular boombox...but is perfectly balanced on the monitors. You have to figure out what equipment your target audience is going to be using. If you are making a mix for a dance hall....bass is not going to be a limiting factor. Crank it. If you are making a mix to be listened to as a demo of your material...cranking the bass will make it sound horrible on a boombox or car stereo (uhm...the average car stereo). In short...if you mixdown using pc speakers with a subwoofer, your song will sound good on that set of speakers. Others, without your setup, are going to hear something different. -Mike McGary From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 20:42:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28969; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:42:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:42:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007501bf150b$136c2020$1c4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: "Loopers" Subject: Digitech PDS-8000 Echo Plus siting Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:39:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"H3RVs3.0.OT3.XPy0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Not mine, but I thought you might like to know... It's on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=179297176 - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 20:47:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30243; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:47:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:47:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000e01bf1529$8acd0e40$6bbc173f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: References: <0.49627312.253489cc@aol.com> Subject: Re: No electricity? Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 20:17:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"STfjZ2.0.wk5.n_y0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I AGREE THIS SENSE 8 AND VIRTUAL CAMPUS IDS GETTIN TO ME TOO ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 5:55 AM Subject: Re: No electricity? > we are monks already > A > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 21:23:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06128; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:23:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:23:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3803DDA5.FA4BD086@webms.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 18:17:25 -0700 From: paul buelow Organization: WebMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: No electricity? References: <0.49627312.253489cc@aol.com> <000e01bf1529$8acd0e40$6bbc173f@eracehomebase> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cJBAk1.0.n-.koz0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My turn, This is silly, we could build solar powered units that can charge and run my pignose amp adequately and my satelite phone and a bunch of other crap. I enjoy bringing my stuff to Baja for a few weeks every year and get by making electricity. Some looping devices can work on low power, e.g. SU10 and tape play back based keyboards could be used to play loops. This group could build power plants based on hydro, solar, coal or bike power in about a week and setup our own woodstock in the second week... after the nuclear bomb hits. Here's a new question. What kind of performance would you create if you had everything you ever wanted or needed? -Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 12 22:46:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27327; Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:46:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:46:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: No elec Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:23:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf1521$f027afa0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"iR26t2.0.2B5.hq-0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I find it interesting to see how when posed with the idea of being w/out electricity- lots of us start imagining how they would produce it again- the point is that there would be none- period. I can only think of myself when I get back from camping in the desert- sometimes I wont turn on my stereo etc for a day or two- it becomes so clear what a distraction it all can be- it is a blessing and like anything is easy to abuse- Well, my loop and drum machine are playing without me- and my electric guitar is hanging on my neck as I stare into this bright cathode screen- maybe a candle is in order... definitely! ;) Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 00:02:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA12319; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:02:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:02:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6eefa5a4.25355414@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:18:44 EDT Subject: Re: No electricity? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"vmGnd1.0.Zi.Jf_0u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "What kind of performance would you create if you had everything you ever wanted or needed? -Paul" Interesting question. I would create sound and lightscapes replete with certain dramatic spoken and sung words of either great beauty or great import (or quite the contrary). Loops moving through or sustaining certain sections with clear (or sometimes ambiguous) emotional content. 'Bout what I'm doing now. ;-) btw: I've simplified my setup greatly in the last several weeks to the noticeable improvement of my pieces. There is no substitute for simplicity. Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 00:37:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24956; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:37:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:37:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991012233011.007ca4c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:30:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Gigs (In case you're in the area...) In-Reply-To: <199910121348.JAA19504@badboy.micro.lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"-liHd.0.Fl5.Gj01u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy, folks... I'll be mangling the guitar and dosing people up with loopage with the Athens, GA band Baghouse this weekend, Fri. the 15th at Stanley's in Cincinnati, OH. If you're in the area, please come out and say hi. I would expect the show would start mid-evening. Also, we'll be playing two shows in Morgantown, West VA on Sat. the 16th. However, I'm unsure of the venues--as i'm still waiting on the final confirmation list for the mini-tour. The first show is at 3pm at some sort of outdoor festival there in Morgantown. If you're in that area, you might know what this is. If so, try to come by. That evenings show is a opening slot, but I'm sorry to say that I'm not sure of where it is or who it is with. If I find out before I leave, I'll be sure to post it here. Anyway, if you come out--just look for the lanky dork in specs making unbearable racket on his G&L or Carvin. Should be easy to spot me/hear me. Hope to see some of you, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 01:01:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30064; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:01:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:01:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38040E20.9AC0DED5@webms.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:44:16 -0700 From: paul buelow Organization: WebMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: bike loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"02MGd1.0.l96.dq01u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Forwarded from the Critical Mass bike list (we're working on making music while riding bikes) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: electricity] Date: 12 Oct 1999 14:56:53 -0700 From: Karl Anderson To: paul buelow References: <38039D89.D3E4BA60@webms.com> There's a bike powered music collective thiny in the UK called Rinky Dink that does stuff like this. They have some notes on what they use, too. http://web.ukonline.co.uk/baka/rinky.htm A related page at: http://mondodesigno.com/micro.html -- Karl Anderson kra@monkey.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 01:07:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA31366; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:07:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:07:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907180720.DAA07691@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 23:34:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: out of the loop (so to speak) Resent-Message-ID: <"kWCka3.0.096.Uq01u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I used to wonder how far ahead of me this list was, now I know (I just discovered how wrong I suspect I was about the GT-3 this weekend). The list is 106 digests ahead of me. how embarrassing (from #291): >>For $400 you can have a Boss GT-3 which does all the psycho analog guitar >>synth sounds plus a whole lot more. >> >>TH > >I checked it out, and it seems that that would duplicate a lot of the >effects that are in the QV GT right now, and I'm not sure that it would add >the kind of synth flexibility of the micro synth. Plus it's huge. I was >thinking instead of getting something that would do the synth sounds well, >and ultimately possibly replacing the QV with a more up-to-date rack >effects unit. I was figuring with the QV, Echoplex, distortion, wah, and >micro synth, I would have a pretty good range of effects. The pedals are >there to supplement the things I have heard racks units don't necessarily >do well (like distortion). I don't know of any unit, rack or pedal, that >does what the microsynth does, with different waveforms, envelopes, etc. >I'm sure I'm just missing stuff. It doesn't seem like the Boss GT-3 has >this stuff though. > >Thanks, > >MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 03:28:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA28271; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:28:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 03:28:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c011fab0.25358745@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 02:57:09 EDT Subject: Re: out of the loop (so to speak) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"0ifbL.0.7S5.Nr21u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check out 3ms pedals. Awsome. Totaly dedicated to ambient noise.A very cool collective of pedal makers also. A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 11:03:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17901; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:03:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:03:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991013102322.008407c0@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:23:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Bon Matin and JFK's LSD UFO vs Animal House.. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"v3ClV3.0.My1.iJ91u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:59 AM 10/12/99 EDT, you wrote: >The Pi Lam show was not billed as a loop show or anything in particular which was why there was probably not a large number of people present - also combined with the weather which was kinda miserable... > hey john et al... thanx for the kindness john.. you guys warped my mind as well.... i thought the setting was pretty cool - converted frat house living room!!! with a better sound system than many clubs.... yeah - temple of bon matin was VERY strange to say the least... the drummer in particular should be locked up for observation.. his set looked like granpa munster had a lot to do with it... bizarre peices of percussionoid stuff, and this great huge (real!!) gong tree... (we could only muster up gong samples....) john dialed up an insane wall of twisted sound for the drums and violin(ce) to bump up against. lovely. and perfect for the fratters smoking pot on the above floors. though the front-of stage audience was kinda lite - we all had the benefit of playing in front of open windows .. so many more 'virtual passerby' enjoyed the gig from the sidewalk!!! plus teh many people studying throughout the building had a very surreal bit of study music! see ya Jfk's Lsd Ufo site Project Object/Zappa tribute http://www.ufomusic.com http://www.projectobject.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 11:34:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25911; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:34:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:34:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.c011fab0.25358745@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:56:38 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: my songs Resent-Message-ID: <"CQEa72.0.414.cs91u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I uploaded the my band TIME CONTROL unreleased tracks by Real Audio G2. http://cavestudio.xmit.org/TC/TCII/ enjoy Sunao Inami www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 11:38:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27015; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:38:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:38:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ea01bf158c$64f49ae0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: bike loops, no electricity Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:05:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"-iOo51.0.Qc4.D_91u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I found a website awhile back that described a really cool "bike loop". The composer mounted resonanting tubes to several bicycles. The pitch varied with the speed of the bicycle. The "score" consisted of a route (a loop!) through city streets. The bicyclists rode in scored-out formations, which included speeding up and passing each other at various times. As a consequence, the composition sounded different depending on where you stood to hear it. And there was no place to hear the whole thing or no "right" place to listen. No electricity involved! I can't find the website again :( If anybody is interested, I think I printed the description and I'll search for the hardcopy. Of course, somebody on the list may know more about this also. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 12:29:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07657; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:29:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:29:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jimb@ehmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9910131130107X.15787@weba4.iname.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers Delight Posting Subject: Re: Pachabels Canon Resent-Message-ID: <"uCeca3.0.K46.KMA1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello again, Sorry this reply is so late, but the free-mail account on which I receive the digest seems to arbitrarily truncate long messages, and a couple of responses to my last contribution fell victim (I'm going to switch back to the works account, I think). In response to Dennis W. Leas: IIRC, it was an 029 model keypunch, but that was over 15 years ago, so I can't be sure. Also, thanks to Tim Nelson for mentioning the Ligeti and Nancarrow. I wasn't actually thinking of them, being more concerned just with members of this list, but yeah I guess their things would apply in some fashion. James Tenney also did a piece for player piano (and dedicated to Nancarrow) which sounds very loopy and dense. I just this moment realized, that a musical box could probably be considered the first true looping device. My dubious memory tells me that someone recorded a piece with several of them running simultaneously, but not who it was. Any takers on this one? Jim Bailey p.s.: The correct spelling is Pachelbel for those who are interested. I just keep the subject misspelling for reference. ---------------------------------------------------------- Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 14:30:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07302; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:30:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:30:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9133@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Does Lexicon fix a damaged JamMan Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:52:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"OxcID2.0.L97.QSC1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Just wondering if Lexicon will fix a JamMan if it breaks ?? G. Weideman From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 14:32:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07766; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:32:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:32:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991013165549.12135.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:55:49 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: mt@motiontek.com Subject: digest down, I think To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"hw-DA3.0.SV3.RcB1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ===== ************************************************************* This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. Thanks. ************************************************************* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 19:18:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12653; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:18:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:18:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com Subject: e-mail's please Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 17:38:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"tZUTn.0.x16.bsF1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi could the following people please send me e-mail asap. Mike Biffle Tyondai Braxton Florian Antoine Jasper Blom Robert Bulanyi dk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 19:34:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16319; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:34:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:34:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199910132241.SAA26214@user1.channel1.com> X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: Re: Anyone sell a JamMan Footswitch ?? Resent-Message-ID: <"1o6Wn1.0.t51.4hG1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Again, try Lexicon. One of mine (actually Cheryl's) went haywire due to a funky pedal. We got a bunch of new ones as replacements so it won't ever happen to us live again. Though I'm sure something else will. Frank Gerace Dreamchild At 03:06 PM 10/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >> Hi, >> >Another JamMan question - where can I get footswitches >for a JamMan ?? > >G. Weideman > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 19:34:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16329; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:34:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:34:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:44:03 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: e-mail's please Resent-Message-ID: <"rnYhs.0.lJ1.RkG1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello David! Wutsup??? Just a test? This was a reply... Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> David Kirkdorffer 10/13 3:18 PM >>> Hi could the following people please send me e-mail asap. Mike Biffle Tyondai Braxton Florian Antoine Jasper Blom Robert Bulanyi dk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 13 19:36:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16543; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:36:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:36:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199910132236.SAA25448@user1.channel1.com> X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: Re: Does Lexicon fix a damaged JamMan Resent-Message-ID: <"J1LvI1.0.jn.xbG1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Absolutely. They have a bench charge, which if I remember correctly, is around $90. Look through the old digests and get Greg Hogan's number (at Lexicon). He's very helpful and they do a great job. I've had two in for work and they work just fine now. Frank Gerace Dreamchild At 12:52 PM 10/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, > >Just wondering if Lexicon will fix a JamMan if it breaks ?? > >G. Weideman > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 00:36:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20525; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:36:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:36:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c1f8e378.2536a50c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:16:28 EDT Subject: Fwd: Fw: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_0.c1f8e378.2536a50c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"SJ2aL3.0.Yt7.IjK1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --part1_0.c1f8e378.2536a50c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_0.c1f8e378.2536a50c_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:54:15 -0400 Received: from smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (smtp7.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.128.51]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:53:53 -0400 Received: from recycling ([209.138.169.223]) by smtp7.atl.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA24204 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <009b01bf1581$a6904360$dfa98ad1@recycling> From: "David Calamoneri" To: "Jack Trainer" Subject: Fw: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:48:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01BF1560.1EAD97C0" ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BF1560.1EAD97C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Stevwotrab@aol.com To: recycle@cnct.com ; recycle1@mindspring.com Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:27 AM Subject: Fwd: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt > > ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BF1560.1EAD97C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Steenvk@aol.com From: Steenvk@aol.com Full-name: Steenvk Message-ID: <0.9177f76a.2533d3d3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:59:15 EDT Subject: Fwd: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt To: Ty272@aol.com, JBOrange1@aol.com, Rickbartow@aol.com, Stevwotrab@aol.com= , KLB985@aol.com, Snoop1985@aol.com, Ryle96@aol.com, Micro23@aol.com, Corrana12@aol.com, Jason5140@aol.com, COOLNES316@aol.com, KRed150@aol.com, MoOnCrEsT8@aol.com, Bigcat6925@aol.com, Mderk1@aol.com, Jumpr11111@aol.com, Rocket6146@aol.com, NYOB13@aol.com, Bocka@aol.com, Becker1324@aol.com, Big31dog42@aol.com, Jules2381@aol.com, Lauren6268@aol.com, MLE2236@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"part2_0.6acc8647.2533d3d3_boundar= y" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 --part2_0.6acc8647.2533d3d3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =20 --part2_0.6acc8647.2533d3d3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Snoop1985@aol.com From: Snoop1985@aol.com Full-name: Snoop1985 Message-ID: <0.1d312728.2533bf77@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:32:23 EDT Subject: Fwd: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt To: Steenvk@aol.com, Pumpkinad@aol.com, NYOB13@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"part3_0.6acc8647.2533bf77_boundar= y" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 --part3_0.6acc8647.2533bf77_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit =20 --part3_0.6acc8647.2533bf77_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Steenvk@aol.com From: Steenvk@aol.com Full-name: Steenvk Message-ID: <0.b6d9612d.2533b21b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:35:23 EDT Subject: Fwd: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt To: Ty272@aol.com, Methgroove@aol.com, JBOrange1@aol.com, Rickbartow@aol.com= , Stevwotrab@aol.com, r.kalff@hccnet.nl, KLB985@aol.com, Micro23@aol.com, Snoop1985@aol.com, Ryle96@aol.com, Corrana12@aol.com, Jason5140@aol.com, COOLNES316@aol.com, KRed150@aol.com, MoOnCrEsT8@aol.com, LizTNJ@aol.com, Bigcat6925@aol.com, Mderk1@aol.com, Jumpr11111@aol.com, Rocket6146@aol.com, NYOB13@aol.com, Bocka@aol.com, Becker1324@aol.com, Big31dog42@aol.com, Javado@wxs.nl, Jules2381@aol.com, Lauren6268@aol.com, MLE2236@aol.com, Piovra25@aol.com, Smokeyeyez@aol.com, TimeLord12@aol.com, Sugar57850@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 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Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:28:13 -0400 Received: from m5.boston.juno.com (m5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.197]) by rly-yh03.mx.aol.com (v61.13) with ESMTP; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:28:08 -0400 Received: (from little.knick@juno.com) by m5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id ENKWQLB3; Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:28:05 ED= T To: snoop1985@aol.com, anavitoria@netsite.com.br, NYOB13@aol.com, MAP1040298@aol.com, mara9854@idsi.net Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:07:10 -0400 Subject: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt Message-ID: <19991010.102242.3270.0.Little.knick@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,6-10,12-15,17-22,24-27,29-31,33,35,37,39,41, 43-45,47,49-58 From: "Sarah A. Knickerbocker" --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: TSumers@aol.com To: Citygal13@aol.com Cc: Fire38Sh@aol.com, lmblack@pojonews.infi.net, little.knick@juno.com,Jubilee82@aol.com, DEB165@aol.com, HOUSEDRX@aol.com, MrMew9@aol.com,Edsbigbuck@aol.com, JessCa15@aol.com, Jamie5597@aol.com Subject: Re: hey it can't hurt Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:47:58 EDT Message-ID: <8cb9da12.2527bb6e@aol.com> Hey, I know this is pretty stupid, but you know what, It workds! Just read=20 it and you can think what you want when you're done. -manda In a message dated 10/2/99 3:30:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, readwolf@ufl.edu=20 writes: <<=20 >>> > Subject: Microsoft and AOL Merger >>> > >>> > I am forwarding this because the person who sent it to me is a good >>> > friend and does not send me junk. Microsoft and AOL are now the largest >>> > Internet company and in an effort make sure that Internet explorer >>> > remains the most widely used program, Microsoft and AOL are running an >>> > e-mail beta test. >>> > >>> > When you forward this e-mail to friends, Microsoft can and will track >>> > it (if you are a Microsoft Windows user) for a two week time period. >>> > For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay >>> > you $5.00, for every person that you sent it to that forwards it on, >>> > Microsoft will pay you $3.00 and for every third person that receives >>> > it, you will be paid $1.00. Within two weeks, Microsoft will contact >>> > you for your address and then send you a check. >>> > >>> > I thought this was a scam myself, but two weeks after receiving this >>> > e-mail and forwarding it on, Microsoft contacted me for my e-mail and >>> > within days, I received a check for $800.00! >>> > >>> > >>> > Ajay Patel >>> > Media Relations >>> > Dynamic Communications >>> > 214-335-4435 >>> > 214-993-7777 >> --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --part5_0.6acc8647.25334c9b_boundary-- --part4_0.6acc8647.2533b21b_boundary-- --part3_0.6acc8647.2533bf77_boundary-- --part2_0.6acc8647.2533d3d3_boundary-- ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BF1560.1EAD97C0-- --part1_0.c1f8e378.2536a50c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 01:34:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA31700; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:34:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:34:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991011204718.008ec680@pop-server.san.rr.com> References: <199910120020.UAA29229@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:34:49 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: No electricity? Resent-Message-ID: <"XCcp5.0.834.zjL1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >In response to that question, I've been spending my musical time studying >and practicing tabla ever since I discovered an Indian classical music >school in my area a couple of months ago, so the loss of electricity >wouldn't affect me at all. :) > >Cheers, >Paolo I doubt it. You never record? Can you play shows without amplifying? But there are positive aspects: If someone wants to dance, he needs to call a musician. Didnt you ever go through the embarassing experience that someone politely asked you to stop playing because he (or often: the public) prefered to listen to a CD? Without electronic media, you are not confronted with the best of the world that does what you do, but better. People are happy that you do it as good as you can. Tom Lambrecht sees it coming on us: >I just need a big enough solar panel to replace the wall wart on my Waldorf >4-pole and PDS 8000 and Pignose and the previously mentioned tub . . . > >of course what I should do is trade the Waldorf for a couple cases of beans >and the Pig for a speed loader for the Colt Python ;) Yeah... or you could trade the Pig for a pig and educate it to smell solar mushroms in the Waldorf forest... ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 01:39:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32595; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:39:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:39:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.f9a7e0dc.2533ecea@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:36:04 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: No electricity? Mountain loops... Resent-Message-ID: <"ed5Cx1.0.944.3kL1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >maybe this is why they built such big places in the old days........natural >delay.......made me think of the 10 trombonists in the 186 foot underground >cistern that had a 45 sec reverb........also mr goodmans tunnel.........i >guess i would put the guitar down and try to get the loudest movable >soundmaker i could find and go out in search of delay.......michael I have been born close to the alps and one of my very early experiences up in the valeys was this natural delay. Not reverb! A distinct repetition of a word you shout toards the other side of the valey, coming back a second later - amazing. It influenced the music of the mountains. The repetitions are not loud enough to be able to play to it as we do, but they give an ambience that inspires to play slow and sustained: Alphorn. ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 01:46:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA01677; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:46:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:46:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F912C@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:34:32 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 Resent-Message-ID: <"X3bOp2.0.J34.-jL1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I've heard from another local music store that the DL4 is coming the end of >the month. > >I printed out the DL4 manual from Line6's website. It appears that the pedal >is 24-bit from the documentation although I'm not sure if that literally >means that the sampling rate is 24-bit for the looper, can anyone confirm >that ? dont worry about this too much. The converter is not 24bits anyway, and its quality cannot be expressed in bits really. Even 16bit converters usually dont use the last bit truely. The processor calculates in 24 or 32bits internally. This is a must and does not say anything either. ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 01:54:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02806; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:54:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:54:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.668901eb.2533ccba@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:38:14 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: 3ms pedals Resent-Message-ID: <"WH7KJ2.0.4a4.CoL1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >...Also, check out >3ms pedals. heres the link. Very cool ambient noise makers >Eternally, >A where is the link? Ive never heard of those... ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 03:11:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18478; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:11:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:11:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910140637.XAA32486@mail3.sirius.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:30:49 -0700 Subject: Re: 3ms pedals From: "John Ettinger" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mKiJm.0.Sl2.lbN1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://members.rotfl.com/3ms/ ---------- >From: Matthias Grob >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: 3ms pedals >Date: Wed, Oct 13, 1999, 9:38 PM > >>...Also, check out >>3ms pedals. heres the link. Very cool ambient noise makers >>Eternally, >>A > >where is the link? Ive never heard of those... > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 03:51:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26380; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:51:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 03:51:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991014071131.3476.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 14 Oct 99 00:11:31 PDT From: Dael Franke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: fwd:fwd:fwd:etc.hey it hurts X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (MaintM3.3.0.77) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id DAA18655 Resent-Message-ID: <"VxfpK2.0.Za4.29O1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com STUPID HOAX FORWARDS ARE NOT WELCOME HERE. Are you all as annoyed as I am? Consider this: The next idiotic forward will have its originating e-mail address copied down and given to every spammer on the internet. The sender will receive more junk than they ever dreamed of posting to Looper's Delight. Are you with me on this? Shall we try it? (evil chuckle) On Topic: I am now the delighted owner of a Digitech 7.6. Now I need 4mb smartmedia for my Boss sp202 Dr.Sample. The Roland site is no help, and it's ugly too. Does anyone know where I can find the right smartmedia for the sp202? Can it handle larger smartmedia cards? Send me a recipe. On second thought, send me a vegetarian recipe. Dael Tree Franke ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 04:20:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02589; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:20:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:20:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.73227521.2536e82d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:02:53 EDT Subject: Re: 3ms pedals To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"VTDu4.0.DL7.fwO1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com members.rotfl.com/3ms/ A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 04:52:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA08056; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:52:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:52:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.c1f8e378.2536a50c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:11:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: hey it can hurt Resent-Message-ID: <"QZ6dh2.0.y4.T1P1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:16 PM -0700 10/13/99, Jax1723@aol.com wrote: Were you not paying attention when I flamed somebody last week for posting bullshit hoaxes to the list? You have to be a complete moron to believe this one, plus you ruined another digest by leaving all the headers in it. Thanks for letting us see all the other morons who forwarded it before you. Since my judgement is currently clouded by the nice glass of Glenlivet I had at Spat's a little while ago, I'm going to do something I threatened last week but I've never done: ban you from posting. You clearly can't be trusted with this responsibility. I may or may not change my mind in the morning. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 05:49:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA18254; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:49:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 05:49:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991014094439.247.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:44:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: hey it can hurt To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"ROE821.0.yC4.NOQ1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, Have I missed anything? I've been away. Bill Gates & I have been driving around in my new Honda distributing food to the children. Bill sends hugs! John --- Kim Flint wrote: > At 8:16 PM -0700 10/13/99, Jax1723@aol.com wrote: > > > > Were you not paying attention when I flamed somebody > last week for posting > bullshit hoaxes to the list? You have to be a > complete moron to believe > this one, plus you ruined another digest by leaving > all the headers in it. > Thanks for letting us see all the other morons who > forwarded it before you. > > Since my judgement is currently clouded by the nice > glass of Glenlivet I > had at Spat's a little while ago, I'm going to do > something I threatened > last week but I've never done: ban you from posting. > You clearly can't be > trusted with this responsibility. > > I may or may not change my mind in the morning. > > > kim > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | > http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | > Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 06:53:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29527; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:53:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:53:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991014071131.3476.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:43:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: SMART Media Cards Resent-Message-ID: <"uccUs3.0.cq6.nIR1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 10/1/3/99 Dael Frane wrote: . >Now I need 4mb smartmedia for my Boss sp202 Dr.Sample. >The Roland site is no help, and it's ugly too. Does anyone know where I can >find the right smartmedia for the sp202? Can it handle larger smartmedia >cards? > > Dael, I'm fairly certain that 4mb is the max. Check the manual. I picked up my smart media card at COMPUSA. BE CLEAR THAT YOU BUY THE PROPER TYPE OF CARD! I saw a 4mb in camera store that would not work. Again check the manual for assistance. Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 07:10:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32504; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:10:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:10:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3805B75C.EBB21A9B@magi.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:58:37 -0400 From: d a v e X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: SMART Media Cards References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Rx2ne3.0.Tb7.XXR1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try: pricewatch.com Do a search for a 5v smartmedia card. They go up to 20 mb I believe. I bought all my cards this way and ended up paying about HALF what I would have paid locally. Good luck David Patrick Smith wrote: > On 10/1/3/99 Dael Frane wrote: > . > >Now I need 4mb smartmedia for my Boss sp202 Dr.Sample. > >The Roland site is no help, and it's ugly too. Does anyone know where I can > >find the right smartmedia for the sp202? Can it handle larger smartmedia > >cards? > > > > > > Dael, > > I'm fairly certain that 4mb is the max. Check the manual. I picked up my > smart media card at COMPUSA. BE CLEAR THAT YOU BUY THE PROPER TYPE OF CARD! > I saw a 4mb in camera store that would not work. Again check the manual > for assistance. > > Patrick > Fingerpaint's New Release: > > IN THE LOOP > > ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and > obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. > > DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 > > http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 07:52:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA07804; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:52:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:52:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <10F6EF930C36D211AD9C00A02475D89DA98CFA@AQUARIUS> From: Tim Cassler To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Does Lexicon fix a damaged JamMan Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:43:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"VdzbD1.0.he1.WAS1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Frank. My name is Tim Cassler...I am in San Antonio, TX. I Hope today finds you well! Are you up to speed on the new Lexicons? Are they making anything now that is comparable to the JamMan? I am new to the looping thing, but I know that I do not want to spend $1,000 for an effects processor, just because it samples. You sound like you have an appreciation for the Lexicon makes...can you advise me? > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Gerace [SMTP:seahorse@channel1.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 5:36 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Does Lexicon fix a damaged JamMan > > Absolutely. They have a bench charge, which if I remember correctly, is > around $90. Look through the old digests and get Greg Hogan's number (at > Lexicon). He's very helpful and they do a great job. I've had two in for > work and they work just fine now. > > Frank Gerace > Dreamchild > > At 12:52 PM 10/13/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Just wondering if Lexicon will fix a JamMan if it breaks ?? > > > >G. Weideman > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 07:52:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA07871; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:52:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:52:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <10F6EF930C36D211AD9C00A02475D89DA98CFB@AQUARIUS> From: Tim Cassler To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: hey it can hurt Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:45:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"zX4VQ1.0.ph1.dCS1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim - Please unsubscribe me. I thought this was just for a weekly or monthly or newsletter. Is there such a thing for Looper's Delight? > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:12 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: hey it can hurt > > At 8:16 PM -0700 10/13/99, Jax1723@aol.com wrote: > > > > Were you not paying attention when I flamed somebody last week for posting > bullshit hoaxes to the list? You have to be a complete moron to believe > this one, plus you ruined another digest by leaving all the headers in it. > Thanks for letting us see all the other morons who forwarded it before > you. > > Since my judgement is currently clouded by the nice glass of Glenlivet I > had at Spat's a little while ago, I'm going to do something I threatened > last week but I've never done: ban you from posting. You clearly can't be > trusted with this responsibility. > > I may or may not change my mind in the morning. > > > kim > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 09:52:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00781; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:52:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:52:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991014083944.007cb730@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:39:44 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: gigs cancelled In-Reply-To: <0.fb9c2632.2532b253@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"thEwe3.0.gX7.5tT1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... Anyone (Michael, etc.) who was planning on making it out to my shows with Baghouse in Cincinnati, OH (Stanley's) and Morgantown, WV (Picnic Fest Outdoors and TBA evening show) need not worry about it now. Thanks to lame promotion and weak booking, these shows will not be happening (isn't this always the way...). I apologize. Thanks, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 10:11:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05263; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:11:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:11:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6adc203f.25373c5b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:02:03 EDT Subject: Re: SMART Media Cards To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"i-hIX.0.Ar.DAU1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I picked up my 4 mb Smartmedia card at my local Roland dealer for $40. He had several in stock. Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 10:23:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08189; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:23:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:23:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: fwd:fwd:etc.hey it hurts -- Kb and KB Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:16:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bf164e$a8ba3920$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <19991014071131.3476.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"gwYto1.0.Re1.kNU1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I would also like everybody to start saying what they mean: "Kb" is not the same as "KB." Kb = kilobit, that is, 1,024 (2 to the 10th power) bits KB = kilobyte, 1,024 bytes. Mb = megabit, 1,024 kilobits. MB = megabyte, 1,048,576 (2 to the 20th power) bytes, or 1,024 kilobytes Gb = gigabit, 1,024 megabits. GB = gigabyte, 1,073,741,824 (2 to the 30th power) bytes, or 1,024 megabytes etc. >From downloading files, you ought to know that 20 Kb per second is obviously not the same as 20 KB per second. Remember also that bits and bytes are not measured in the decimal system but in the binary. In computer circles, the letter "K" is always uppercase. Also, computer people tried to have the letter "K" be uppercase for binary systems and lowercase for decimal systems, but nobody pays any attention to that. Let's be on the same page about this. OK, now everybody, how many bits in a byte? | -----Original Message----- | From: Dael Franke [mailto:daelfranke@netscape.net] | Sent: Thursday 14 October 1999 12:12 AM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: fwd:fwd:fwd:etc.hey it hurts | | | STUPID HOAX ... | On Topic: I am now the delighted owner of a Digitech 7.6. | Now I need 4mb smartmedia for my Boss sp202 Dr.Sample. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 10:58:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17857; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:58:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:58:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D6F9@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: hey it can hurt Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:46:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"LPl4T2.0.jc3.9pU1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Well, I think they posted that hoax to the wrong list. I think they meant to send it to the idiots-delight list not the loopers-delight list. Easy to get them confused (in fact they are sometimes one and the same). Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com At 8:16 PM -0700 10/13/99, Jax1723@aol.com wrote: W From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 11:06:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20661; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:06:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:06:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9135@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:45:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"Dp0Xu3.0.Pb3.qoU1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Matt, Thanks for the response. Do you (or anyone else) know what the sampling rate is the the DL4 ?? I'm wondering if it is close to a JamMan or EP or lower like the Rang. I would like to get a looper that is at least as good as the JamMan since I'm playing acoustic guitar and want the loop sample to be pretty good. Thanks in advance G. Weideman > ---------- > From: Matthias Grob[SMTP:matthias@grob.org] > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:34 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 > > >I've heard from another local music store that the DL4 is coming the end > of > >the month. > > > >I printed out the DL4 manual from Line6's website. It appears that the > pedal > >is 24-bit from the documentation although I'm not sure if that literally > >means that the sampling rate is 24-bit for the looper, can anyone confirm > >that ? > > dont worry about this too much. The converter is not 24bits anyway, and > its > quality cannot be expressed in bits really. Even 16bit converters usually > dont use the last bit truely. > The processor calculates in 24 or 32bits internally. This is a must and > does not say anything either. > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 10:48:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15159; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:48:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:48:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.d766e209.2537449f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:37:19 EDT Subject: UK Headrush anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"hd4hl1.0.j13.ahU1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Has anyone in UK seen an Akai Headrush? Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 11:06:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20043; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:06:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:06:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.78b25447.2537449d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:37:17 EDT Subject: Vortex pedal info request+jamMan footswitch To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"pL_-y3.0.503.5hU1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK folks, announcing another page on the Vortex Database ...coming soon ...this is about footswitches and pedals. I'm currently working on the footswitch, which is also suitable for the jamman and I include details of how to get the same switch that lex use at a greatly reduced cost If anyone has any info about vortex/jamman accessory hardware please share and I'll put it on the page (and give you a link if you want especially wanted.. info on expression peds for the vortex, what works & what doesn't (I use the Bespeco VM 18-L, can you get this in the states?) thanks Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm oh yes, and if anyone wants to send in patches/morphs please do so (theres forms to fill in) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 12:01:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01961; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:01:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:01:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com Subject: Magnus Hannibal's e-mail please! Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:00:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"ShQ5F3.0.765.E7V1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone know how to reach Magnus Hannibal in Denmark (yes, I could go there...). Magnus, if you're out there please e-mail me. Thanks! dk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 12:07:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03413; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:07:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:07:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380550E0.2F88@voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:41:20 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Y42J21.0.bL7.heV1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Orders are slowly trickling in for the LD CD#1 but we still haven't reached even the preorder number we were hoping for. This will probably be the one and only run of this fabulous CD thus making it a RARE VINTAGE LOOPING ITEM!!!(tm). Buy two today and sell one on ebay in a year for $3k!! :) Seriously folks, this is an awesome CD and the profits go to running the LD mailing list and web site. If you haven't gotten one yet you're really missing out. And I ain't kidding about the the limited edition part; when these are gone, this run is over. Here's the skinny again: =================================================================================== The reissue of the Looper's Delight Subscriber's CD #1 is now available directly from Help Wanted Productions via Mail order. Costs are $12.00 US including shipping anywhere in the United States and $13.00 including shipping to Canada or anywhere else in the world. Checks or MO (Prefered) in US funds (Payable to Help Wanted Productions) can be sent to: Help Wanted Productions PO Box 2205, Phila, Pa 19103 Proceeds will go to the Looper's Delight Web site to help pay ISP and other costs. There's a web page dedicated to this product from the HWP catalog with a pic of the cover, link to the full track listing, artist Biographies, and ORDER FORM at: http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/ldcd1.htm Print out the order form from the link on this page and put down the name and #'s of CDs you want. BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS! Mail it in and you'll get the goods in 2-4 weeks tops! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for all your patience on this project. The CDs look and sound GREAT! Thanks to Ray Peck for starting the whole thing and getting the fantastic covers done as well as Kim Flint and Michael Peters for helping me organize this monster and getting it re-released. There are links galore all over the catalog with info on other music HWP sells, check them out if you so desire. The Web site houses a gallery of unusual instruments and an extensive page of electronic music links to other site, artists, and instruments including a page on the Roland GR300/GR33b guitar synths. If anyone has any questions feel free to contact me and I'll try and help you out. It all free so as AB sings "Dig me but don't bury me". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 12:13:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04932; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:13:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:13:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991014112037.00841ab0@mail.monmouth.com> X-Sender: andre@mail.monmouth.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:20:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: andre Subject: Re: Fwd: Fw: TSumers@aol.com: Re: hey it can't hurt In-Reply-To: <0.c1f8e378.2536a50c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"fqYKU3.0.LZ5.KFV1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yes it can hurt this kinda email crap just exponentially....loops around... and clogs the 'net!! stop it!!! microsoft will send NO ON money!! > >>> > > >>> > I am forwarding this because the person who sent it to me is a >good > >>> > friend and does not send me junk. Microsoft and AOL are now the > largest > >>> > I thought this was a scam myself, but two weeks after receiving >this > >>> > e-mail and forwarding it on, Microsoft contacted me for my e-mail >and > >>> > within days, I received a check for $800.00! > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ajay Patel Jfk's Lsd Ufo site Project Object/Zappa tribute http://www.ufomusic.com http://www.projectobject.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 12:22:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07403; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:22:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:22:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006301bf165d$300d2280$5675d6d1@micronjenni> From: "Jenni Leeds" To: References: <199910141513.LAA22299@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Rio MP3 player Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:00:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"g4i9i2.0.-z7.8oV1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all. Does anyone own a Rio mp3 player . If so, Do you know if there is an adapter to send audio from the headphone jack out through a cord which converts into a quarter inch jack. I don't think the headphone jack is an 1/8 incher. I could probably find the right size a ra**o s**ck. Does anybody know what size output that is? I have this idea to fit hundreds of mp3 sample snippets in their and send 'em through my echoplex/vortex. This oughta be pretty cool. Just need the proper outlet sizes. Anyway. Peace out. Jamie Mash {experimental music director WMTS 88.3} From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 12:25:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08202; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:25:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:25:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9138@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Vortex pedal info request+jamMan footswitch Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:58:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"TPlZW1.0.EO.YtV1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Andy, When will the page be up ?? I'm getting a JamMan and need the footswitches so any help is greatly appreciated !!! Gary Weideman > ---------- > From: SoundFNR@aol.com[SMTP:SoundFNR@aol.com] > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 9:37 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Vortex pedal info request+jamMan footswitch > > OK folks, announcing another page on the Vortex Database > ...coming soon > ...this is about footswitches and pedals. > I'm currently working on the footswitch, which is also suitable for the > jamman > and I include details of how to get the same switch that lex use at a > greatly > reduced cost > > If anyone has any info about vortex/jamman accessory hardware please share > > and I'll put it on the page (and give you a link if you want > > especially wanted.. info on expression peds for the vortex, what works & > what > doesn't > (I use the Bespeco VM 18-L, can you get this in the states?) > > thanks > Andy Butler > Lexicon Vortex Database > http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm > > oh yes, and if anyone wants to send in patches/morphs please do so (theres > > forms to fill in) > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 12:40:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12083; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:40:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:40:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910141619.JAA21327@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:19:20 -0500 Subject: GT-3 Guitar Synth parameters From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"u6_D31.0.Sg1.dAW1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone was asking yesterday about what parameters were adjustable on the GT-3 synth effect, and how it compares with the EH Microsynth. I don't have the Microsynth manual here, but here's what you can control on the GT-3: Input sensitivity: quicker response with higher sensitivity setting, but more prone to glitching. Wave: Square, Sawtooth, "brass", "bow" (soft attack) Chromatic: selects whether synth responds to pitch changes of less than a semitone. Octave Shift: displace the synth tone an octave from the input signal Pulse Wise Modulation Rate: allows you to modulate the waveform when square wave is selected Pulse Wise Mudlation Depth: depth of the aforementioned modulation Cutoff Frequency: adjusts the frequency where the hormonics content of the sound is cut off. Resonance: adjusts how much of the harmonics contents around the cutoff frequency should be emphasized Filter Sensitivity: allows you to vary the point where the filter kicks in based on picking volume Filter Decay: period before filter change is stable Filter Depth: depth of the filter effect Attack: time for synth sound to reach maximum volume Release: time needed for synth sound to reach zero Velocity: volume sensitivity setting for synth sound (how much you picking dynamics affect the synth volume) Hold: allows you systain the synth sound independent of input (usually tied to a momentary switch) Synth Level Direct Level TH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 13:11:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20401; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:11:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:11:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FCAD@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: off topic/info request Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:54:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"2x9xI.0.m14.BiW1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi, for any folks in the uk. my wife and i are planning a trip to london and environs next year. i'm wondering if anyone in the uk (or otherwise) has info about "outsider"/folk art or art brut museums and/or sites in england (yeah i guess it's trendy). any help is appreciated. please reply via private e-mail. thanks, stig you mean that microsoft isn't going to send me money and i won't get a new honda???? i am SHATTERED :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 13:33:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26447; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:33:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:33:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00eb01bf1663$7dfa6b00$394badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Boomerang and DL4 - URL to DL4 docs??? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:45:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"uy_9k.0.n93.6XW1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What's the URL to the DL4 docs? I couldn't find it anywhere on the Line6 site. thanks Larry -----Original Message----- From: Weideman, Gary L (Gary) To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:00 PM Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 >Matt, > >Thanks for the response. Do you (or anyone else) know what the sampling rate >is the the DL4 ?? I'm wondering if it is close to a JamMan or EP or lower >like the Rang. I would like to get a looper that is at least as good as the >JamMan since I'm playing acoustic guitar and want the loop sample to be >pretty good. > >Thanks in advance > >G. Weideman > >> ---------- >> From: Matthias Grob[SMTP:matthias@grob.org] >> Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:34 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 >> >> >I've heard from another local music store that the DL4 is coming the end >> of >> >the month. >> > >> >I printed out the DL4 manual from Line6's website. It appears that the >> pedal >> >is 24-bit from the documentation although I'm not sure if that literally >> >means that the sampling rate is 24-bit for the looper, can anyone confirm >> >that ? >> >> dont worry about this too much. The converter is not 24bits anyway, and >> its >> quality cannot be expressed in bits really. Even 16bit converters usually >> dont use the last bit truely. >> The processor calculates in 24 or 32bits internally. This is a must and >> does not say anything either. >> >> >> >> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 13:34:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26780; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:34:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:34:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.d8baa7f6.25376b64@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:22:44 EDT Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"NWzK6.0.cl5.L6X1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/14/99 2:06:20 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, legion@voicenet.com writes: << Buy two today and sell one on ebay in a year for $3k!! :) >> i was already offered $4k for my copy, but i said "no way".......ill keep it, thanks.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 13:38:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28547; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:38:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:38:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:57:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! In-Reply-To: <380550E0.2F88@voicenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"pUJWB2.0.715.nxW1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just got mine, have to agree - Mathias and the rest of you that contributed - Great Stuff! Stew Benedict On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Legion wrote: > Orders are slowly trickling in for the LD CD#1 but we still haven't > reached even the preorder number we were hoping for. This will probably > be the one and only run of this fabulous CD thus making it a RARE > VINTAGE LOOPING ITEM!!!(tm). Buy two today and sell one on ebay in a > year for $3k!! :) > > Seriously folks, this is an awesome CD and the profits go to running the > LD mailing list and web site. If you haven't gotten one yet you're > really missing out. And I ain't kidding about the the limited edition > part; when these are gone, this run is over. > > Here's the skinny again: > =================================================================================== > > The reissue of the Looper's Delight Subscriber's CD #1 is now available > directly from Help Wanted Productions via Mail order. > > Costs are $12.00 US including shipping anywhere in the United States and > $13.00 including shipping to Canada or anywhere else in the world. > > Checks or MO (Prefered) in US funds (Payable to Help Wanted Productions) > can be sent to: > Help Wanted Productions > PO Box 2205, Phila, Pa 19103 > > Proceeds will go to the Looper's Delight Web site to help pay ISP and > other costs. > > There's a web page dedicated to this product from the HWP catalog with a > pic of the cover, link to the full track listing, artist Biographies, > and ORDER FORM at: > > http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/ldcd1.htm > > Print out the order form from the link on this page and put down the > name and #'s of CDs you want. BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS! > Mail it in and you'll get the goods in 2-4 weeks tops! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for all your patience on this project. The CDs look and sound > GREAT! Thanks to Ray Peck for starting the whole thing and getting the > fantastic covers done as well as Kim Flint and Michael Peters for > helping me organize this monster and getting it re-released. > > There are links galore all over the catalog with info on other music HWP > sells, check them out if you so desire. The Web site houses a gallery of > unusual instruments and an extensive page of electronic music links to > other site, artists, and instruments including a page on the Roland > GR300/GR33b guitar synths. If anyone has any questions feel free to > contact me and I'll try and help you out. It all free so as AB sings > "Dig me but don't bury me". > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 14:02:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02228; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:02:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:02:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <02bd01bf166d$708b7fe0$d098adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:56:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"vUbga.0.go7.iWX1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com and it's really tastey . . . my copy has been in the steady rotation on mY stereo . . . besides, Kim has been testy lately and he might just unsub you if you don't BUY one NOW drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Legion To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:41 AM Subject: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! >Orders are slowly trickling in for the LD CD#1 but we still haven't >reached even the preorder number we were hoping for. This will probably >be the one and only run of this fabulous CD thus making it a RARE >VINTAGE LOOPING ITEM!!!(tm). Buy two today and sell one on ebay in a >year for $3k!! :) SNIP> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 14:28:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10085; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:28:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:28:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <10F6EF930C36D211AD9C00A02475D89DA98D09@AQUARIUS> From: Tim Cassler To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:59:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"o3yxU1.0.NY.sgX1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Stew - Who are the artists on the CD? > -----Original Message----- > From: Stew Benedict [SMTP:stewb@earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:57 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! > > > Just got mine, have to agree - Mathias and the rest of you that > contributed - Great Stuff! > > Stew Benedict > > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Legion wrote: > > > Orders are slowly trickling in for the LD CD#1 but we still haven't > > reached even the preorder number we were hoping for. This will probably > > be the one and only run of this fabulous CD thus making it a RARE > > VINTAGE LOOPING ITEM!!!(tm). Buy two today and sell one on ebay in a > > year for $3k!! :) > > > > Seriously folks, this is an awesome CD and the profits go to running the > > LD mailing list and web site. If you haven't gotten one yet you're > > really missing out. And I ain't kidding about the the limited edition > > part; when these are gone, this run is over. > > > > Here's the skinny again: > > > ========================================================================== > ========= > > > > The reissue of the Looper's Delight Subscriber's CD #1 is now available > > directly from Help Wanted Productions via Mail order. > > > > Costs are $12.00 US including shipping anywhere in the United States and > > $13.00 including shipping to Canada or anywhere else in the world. > > > > Checks or MO (Prefered) in US funds (Payable to Help Wanted Productions) > > can be sent to: > > Help Wanted Productions > > PO Box 2205, Phila, Pa 19103 > > > > Proceeds will go to the Looper's Delight Web site to help pay ISP and > > other costs. > > > > There's a web page dedicated to this product from the HWP catalog with a > > pic of the cover, link to the full track listing, artist Biographies, > > and ORDER FORM at: > > > > http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/ldcd1.htm > > > > Print out the order form from the link on this page and put down the > > name and #'s of CDs you want. BE SURE TO INCLUDE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS! > > Mail it in and you'll get the goods in 2-4 weeks tops! > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > Thanks for all your patience on this project. The CDs look and sound > > GREAT! Thanks to Ray Peck for starting the whole thing and getting the > > fantastic covers done as well as Kim Flint and Michael Peters for > > helping me organize this monster and getting it re-released. > > > > There are links galore all over the catalog with info on other music HWP > > sells, check them out if you so desire. The Web site houses a gallery of > > unusual instruments and an extensive page of electronic music links to > > other site, artists, and instruments including a page on the Roland > > GR300/GR33b guitar synths. If anyone has any questions feel free to > > contact me and I'll try and help you out. It all free so as AB sings > > "Dig me but don't bury me". > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 14:34:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11520; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:34:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:34:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9139@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 - URL to DL4 docs??? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:05:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"T9xaH3.0.Up.AkX1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here it is: http://www.line6.com/support/library.htm Go to the Looper Document Gary > ---------- > From: L Tremblay[SMTP:ltct@concentric.net] > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:45 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Boomerang and DL4 - URL to DL4 docs??? > > What's the URL to the DL4 docs? I couldn't find it > anywhere on the Line6 site. > > thanks > > Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Weideman, Gary L (Gary) > To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' > Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:00 PM > Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 > > > >Matt, > > > >Thanks for the response. Do you (or anyone else) know what the sampling > rate > >is the the DL4 ?? I'm wondering if it is close to a JamMan or EP or lower > >like the Rang. I would like to get a looper that is at least as good as > the > >JamMan since I'm playing acoustic guitar and want the loop sample to be > >pretty good. > > > >Thanks in advance > > > >G. Weideman > > > >> ---------- > >> From: Matthias Grob[SMTP:matthias@grob.org] > >> Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:34 PM > >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >> Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 > >> > >> >I've heard from another local music store that the DL4 is coming the > end > >> of > >> >the month. > >> > > >> >I printed out the DL4 manual from Line6's website. It appears that the > >> pedal > >> >is 24-bit from the documentation although I'm not sure if that > literally > >> >means that the sampling rate is 24-bit for the looper, can anyone > confirm > >> >that ? > >> > >> dont worry about this too much. The converter is not 24bits anyway, and > >> its > >> quality cannot be expressed in bits really. Even 16bit converters > usually > >> dont use the last bit truely. > >> The processor calculates in 24 or 32bits internally. This is a must and > >> does not say anything either. > >> > >> > >> > >> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > >> > >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 15:11:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20568; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:11:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:11:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.59137c90.25377819@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:16:57 EDT Subject: dear heloise To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"6UjVS3.0.ZZ1.avX1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com one of the many little things that will eventually push me over the edge is the fact that i must dust off my equipment every day........and yes heloise, i smoke and smoke and smoke.......but unlike kim, i do not have to worry about single malt contamination, i think gin dries cleaner.......so my question is this, will i have to dust less when i can no longer plug my tablas in or if the electrcity does not go away how do you suggest that i deal with the air-born pollution problem.......or should i get myself another job and not worry about it?.........thanks........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 15:18:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22494; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:18:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:18:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380629F8.321D4DDF@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:07:36 -0400 From: "roguemus@ix.netcom.com" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Anyone sell a JamMan Footswitch ?? References: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9134@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rJl_R.0.D35.AiY1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We have the footswitch for $25. Dick Michaels Rogue Music NYC http://www.roguemusic.com Check out our online musical instrument auctions at http://www.auctionsoup.com Weideman, Gary L (Gary) wrote: > > Hi, > > > Another JamMan question - where can I get footswitches > for a JamMan ?? > > G. Weideman From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 15:17:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22200; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:17:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:17:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38057F5D.41B6@voicenet.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 02:59:41 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! References: <10F6EF930C36D211AD9C00A02475D89DA98D09@AQUARIUS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NYk-t1.0.2O4.6YY1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim Cassler wrote: > Who are the artists on the CD? Good Lord! Can it be that someone hasn't heard of this yet? That *must* explain why they haven't bought one yet too. To correct both problems here ya go: (Taken From - http://www.annihilist.com/loop/cd1/LDCD1.htm) Artist - Track Name 1. Michael Peters - On The Move 2. Dave Stafford - Spider's Web 3. Matthias Grob with Bira Reis (percussion) - Sete 4. Matthias Grob - The Fool's Dance 5. Andre Krikula and Conny Sommer - Es geschah 6. Renato Rizzo - Salina 7. Matthias Grob - Grama Para Todos 8. Mike Stevens - A Walk In My Dream 9. Doug Michael- Helix 10. Doug Michael - Trance (edit) 11. Fingerpaint (Patrick Smith and Steev Geest) - Sirens Of Titan 12. Doug Michael - Feed 13. David Talento - Just Give Up And Marry The Boss's Daughter 14. The Outside Loop - Bag In A Tree 15. Kuno Wagner - Intermedium Now BUY one of these great disk and support the music of LD and the web site: To Order this CD please Send $12 (in the US) or $13 (from canada and the rest of the World) payable in US funds to: Help Wanted Productions - PO Box 2205, Phila., Pa 19103 Full info, pics, links, civer art, Order From, other CDs, etc AT: http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/ldcd1.htm THANKS! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 15:36:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26835; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:36:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:36:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <10F6EF930C36D211AD9C00A02475D89DA98D0F@AQUARIUS> From: Tim Cassler To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:24:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"fFasw2.0.s26.fwY1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 1. YES! The Lord is good! 2. No, I had not heard of this cd...and.. 3. No, I have not bought one.... I don't see any problem here...... > -----Original Message----- > From: Legion [SMTP:legion@voicenet.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 2:00 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD#1 STILL available!!! > > Tim Cassler wrote: > > > Who are the artists on the CD? > > Good Lord! Can it be that someone hasn't heard of this yet? That *must* > explain why they haven't bought one yet too. > > To correct both problems here ya go: > > (Taken From - http://www.annihilist.com/loop/cd1/LDCD1.htm) > > Artist - Track Name > > 1. Michael Peters - On The Move > 2. Dave Stafford - Spider's Web > 3. Matthias Grob with Bira Reis (percussion) - Sete > 4. Matthias Grob - The Fool's Dance > 5. Andre Krikula and Conny Sommer - Es geschah > 6. Renato Rizzo - Salina > 7. Matthias Grob - Grama Para Todos > 8. Mike Stevens - A Walk In My Dream > 9. Doug Michael- Helix > 10. Doug Michael - Trance (edit) > 11. Fingerpaint (Patrick Smith and Steev Geest) - Sirens Of Titan > 12. Doug Michael - Feed > 13. David Talento - Just Give Up And Marry The Boss's Daughter > 14. The Outside Loop - Bag In A Tree > 15. Kuno Wagner - Intermedium > > Now BUY one of these great disk and support the music of LD and the web > site: > > To Order this CD please Send $12 (in the US) or $13 (from canada and the > rest of the World) payable in US funds to: Help Wanted Productions - PO > Box 2205, Phila., Pa 19103 > > Full info, pics, links, civer art, Order From, other CDs, etc AT: > http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/ldcd1.htm > > THANKS! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 16:01:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01842; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:01:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:01:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:39:33 -0700 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: sp 202 X-Sender-Ip: 207.44.83.219 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"FfUKK.0.hq6.B6Z1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear list: I have the sp 202 and I use it as a second sampler. It doesnt have the editing capablility of, say an ensoniq,but with practice can get tight loops The unit does have real time time stretch(turn a knob and watch it slow down and speed up a sample instantly) and a ring modulor and filter resonance. I am gratefulthat this unit introduced me to the joys of delay (great on drums) as well as the other effects i mentioned. I have it expanded my unit fully and now i use it for the extra memory it provides in a pinch. That said , I want to mention that the sp202 is 16 bit,31 hz at the hi fi setting(!) and that the expanded portin(with the smart cards) doe not have the time strecthing -- On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:43:51 Patrick Smith wrote: > >On 10/1/3/99 Dael Frane wrote: >. >>Now I need 4mb smartmedia for my Boss sp202 Dr.Sample. >>The Roland site is no help, and it's ugly too. Does anyone know where I can >>find the right smartmedia for the sp202? Can it handle larger smartmedia >>cards? >> >> > > >Dael, > >I'm fairly certain that 4mb is the max. Check the manual. I picked up my >smart media card at COMPUSA. BE CLEAR THAT YOU BUY THE PROPER TYPE OF CARD! >I saw a 4mb in camera store that would not work. Again check the manual >for assistance. > >Patrick > Fingerpaint's New Release: > > IN THE LOOP > > ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and > obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. > > DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 > > http://www.fingerpaint.net > > -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 16:50:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15738; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:50:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:50:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a201bf1681$eb493920$5c22dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <0.59137c90.25377819@aol.com> Subject: Re: dear heloise Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:22:49 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"6iYLQ1.0.cy1.zkZ1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not Heloise, but... There's no escape beyond covering your equipment with sheets in case you've got the bloody Stucco Ceiling Syndrome, a common problem in Southern California, and other sectors possessing Cheap Landlord Disfunction. Frigging stucco is in a constant state of decomposition, and will supply a fine coating of dust everywhere, especially in a State That Moves like CA does. Suggestions involve using sheets to cover your equipment, and fairly regular dusting over everything else. ESPECIALLY if you're a smoker (of any kind), as the smoke particles are sticky buggars, and complicate the issue of dusting immensely. Venetian blinds suffer the worst from this if you don't dust 'em regularly; they'll take on a crappy looking surface eventually, revealing the tar (/etc.) from one's smoking activities over a several year period. By which time it's best to just replace them, and not attempt to clean... Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:16 Subject: dear heloise > one of the many little things that will eventually push me over the edge is > the fact that i must dust off my equipment every day........and yes heloise, > i smoke and smoke and smoke.......but unlike kim, i do not have to worry > about single malt contamination, i think gin dries cleaner.......so my > question is this, will i have to dust less when i can no longer plug my > tablas in or if the electrcity does not go away how do you suggest that i > deal with the air-born pollution problem.......or should i get myself another > job and not worry about it?.........thanks........michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 17:09:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20582; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:09:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:09:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910142050.QAA15800@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Apparently-From: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:20:45 +0530 Subject: Hi & Line 6 has a new pedal out From: "Drew Skyfyre" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Z2GJE2.0.Rt3.r8a1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, I just joined. Don't do any looping yet (waiting for maney for gear), but have experimented some in the past. Meanwhile, I figure this list should keep me on the up and up re. the looping world... Oh, just thought I'd mention (in case no one has yet) Line 6' new pedal, the DL4 Delay Modeler It's a stereo, 14 second programmable loop sampler ! Supposed to retail US@$300 http://www.line6.com/products/stomper.htm There's a user preview-review at Harmony Central : http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Line_6/DL4_Delay_Modeler_01-01.h tml - Drew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 17:17:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23024; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:17:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:17:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3805F8D9.A16DA2@texas.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:38:46 +0000 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Elaine Walters , Loopers Delight Subject: We got Boomerangs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eVwta2.0.yE3.x0a1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi elaine - i've got boomerangs in stock & i sell them to looper's delight folks for $425 + shipping. please contact me at work, not here, please: krazy kat music 210-737-0523 krazy2@flash.net i'll be there friday & saturday if you would like to chat. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 17:15:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17653; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:00:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:00:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001201bf1670$6133b4b0$394badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Boomerang and DL4 - URL to DL4 docs??? Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:17:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"lAyzo2.0._S1.ftX1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nevermind...found it. -----Original Message----- To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Boomerang and DL4 - URL to DL4 docs??? >What's the URL to the DL4 docs? I couldn't find it >anywhere on the Line6 site. > >thanks > >Larry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Weideman, Gary L (Gary) >To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' >Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:00 PM >Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 > > >>Matt, >> >>Thanks for the response. Do you (or anyone else) know what the sampling >rate >>is the the DL4 ?? I'm wondering if it is close to a JamMan or EP or lower >>like the Rang. I would like to get a looper that is at least as good as the >>JamMan since I'm playing acoustic guitar and want the loop sample to be >>pretty good. >> >>Thanks in advance >> >>G. Weideman >> >>> ---------- >>> From: Matthias Grob[SMTP:matthias@grob.org] >>> Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:34 PM >>> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>> Subject: RE: Boomerang and DL4 >>> >>> >I've heard from another local music store that the DL4 is coming the end >>> of >>> >the month. >>> > >>> >I printed out the DL4 manual from Line6's website. It appears that the >>> pedal >>> >is 24-bit from the documentation although I'm not sure if that >literally >>> >means that the sampling rate is 24-bit for the looper, can anyone >confirm >>> >that ? >>> >>> dont worry about this too much. The converter is not 24bits anyway, and >>> its >>> quality cannot be expressed in bits really. Even 16bit converters usually >>> dont use the last bit truely. >>> The processor calculates in 24 or 32bits internally. This is a must and >>> does not say anything either. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 17:42:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29242; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:42:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:42:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.be14ae55.2537a450@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:25:36 EDT Subject: Re: Vortex pedal info request+jamMan footswitch To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"nu3783.0.n26._fa1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 14/10/99 17:22:59 GMT Daylight Time, weideman@lucent.com writes: > Andy, > > When will the page be up ?? I'm getting a JamMan and need the footswitches > so any help is greatly appreciated !!! > > Gary Weideman It's up there now. Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 18:13:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04623; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:13:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:13:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004201be5884$83efa2c0$e2b9173f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: References: Subject: Re: sp 202 Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:42:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"voZSQ.0.LC7.Mwa1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com pc connection has em dirt cheap 1 -800-800-5555 they're 34.00 for 4 mb with shipping ----- Original Message ----- From: mark givens To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: sp 202 > dear list: I have the sp 202 and I use it as a second sampler. It doesnt have the editing capablility of, say an ensoniq,but with practice can get tight loops The unit does have real time time stretch(turn a knob and watch it slow down and speed up a sample instantly) and a ring modulor and filter resonance. I am gratefulthat this unit introduced me to the joys of delay (great on drums) as well as the other effects i mentioned. I have it expanded my unit fully and now i use it for the extra memory it provides in a pinch. That said , I want to mention that the sp202 is 16 bit,31 hz at the hi fi setting(!) and that the expanded portin(with the smart cards) doe not have the time strecthing > -- > > On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:43:51 Patrick Smith wrote: > > > >On 10/1/3/99 Dael Frane wrote: > >. > >>Now I need 4mb smartmedia for my Boss sp202 Dr.Sample. > >>The Roland site is no help, and it's ugly too. Does anyone know where I can > >>find the right smartmedia for the sp202? Can it handle larger smartmedia > >>cards? > >> > >> > > > > > >Dael, > > > >I'm fairly certain that 4mb is the max. Check the manual. I picked up my > >smart media card at COMPUSA. BE CLEAR THAT YOU BUY THE PROPER TYPE OF CARD! > >I saw a 4mb in camera store that would not work. Again check the manual > >for assistance. > > > >Patrick > > Fingerpaint's New Release: > > > > IN THE LOOP > > > > ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and > > obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. > > > > DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 > > > > http://www.fingerpaint.net > > > > > > > -- > Join the most exciting community of women on the web! > iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, > your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, > and dozens of problem-solving tools. > http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 20:44:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08898; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:44:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:44:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991014233015.75787.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.24.189.73] From: "K. G. Dick" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Hoax Spam Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:30:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"0sAc53.0.Td5.sUc1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Kim, Please, if it helps you stay the course, have ANOTHER glass of Glenlivet! LOL. These people have a place in the world... and it AIN'T here! Let them all spam each other, but do ban them from a music list, of all places. BTW, I post very little (to none), but nonetheless enjoy it VERY much. And your home page has been invaluable to me, the owner of a EDP. Thanks so much. Best, K. G. Dick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 20:20:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03243; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:20:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 20:20:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991015000034.74268.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.24.189.73] From: "K. G. Dick" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Hoax Spam Continued Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:00:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"4G3AQ1.0.Qe7.Ixc1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear folks, Here is another thought too. Why is it virtually everyone on this list (or so it seems) has their email set to send and re-send threads ad infinitum? Y'all DO know you can shut it off right? So that the message you are responding to isn't repeated over and over, growing with each additional response. Sure, sometimes it takes a lil of the ol' cut and paste to maintain continuity, but usually not, and gosh, y'all are musicians, with strong fingers. I KNOW you can manage the additional keystrokes (all 3 or 4 of 'em!). Really, it would help make the list much more intelligible. Thanks. Best, K. G. Dick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 21:50:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA25293; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:50:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:50:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003001bf16ad$becfb5a0$b132dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <19991014233015.75787.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: A Whisky Suggestion Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:36:28 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"WfciM2.0.OK5.JLe1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If we're talking fine single-malt, might I recommend Ardbeg? I've a bottle of 17-yr-old, and opened it for the first time last Friday night. My friends who consider themselves extreme oenophiles even went "mmmm," when they had their own drams... By the way, while I don't have an EDP, I can't deny the positive input/advice gleaned from this list, to say nothing of a good bunch of collaborators in the Movement To Loopify The Planet. Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 22:06:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA29038; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:06:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:06:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000b01bf16b0$709a9fa0$cc6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: Hoax Spam Continued Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:56:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"NiUSk3.0.jj6.Pge1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com um..................how about just cutting out all the crap. just a thought. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 22:16:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA31222; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:16:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:16:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38068D34.F8F6077C@home.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:11:00 -0700 From: ROLAND EBERLE Organization: @Home Network Member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Electro Harmonix 16 sec on ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sMo3p3.0.Z57.cme1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A freind is selling his EH 16...go to ebay for item descritption and to bid...thanks: ELECTRO-HARMONIX 16 SECOND DELAY, VINTAGE Item #176633424 Miscellaneous:Musical Instruments:Electronic Currently $700.00 First bid Quantity 1 # of bids 1 (bid history) (with emails) Time left 1 days, 8 hours + Location Oakland,CA Started 10/05/99, 21:22:22 PDT (mail this auction to a friend) Ends 10/15/99, 21:22:22 PDT (request a gift alert) Seller chefboy@lanminds.com (0) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 22:48:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06107; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:48:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:48:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: phv@san.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991014223223.008f13d0@pop-server.san.rr.com> X-Sender: phv@pop-server.san.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:32:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Answers to Mattias In-Reply-To: <199910141455.KAA16871@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"g0YLA2.0.pn.qCf1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:34:49 -0200 >From: Matthias Grob >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: No electricity? >Message-Id: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>In response to that question, I've been spending my musical time studying >>and practicing tabla ever since I discovered an Indian classical music >>school in my area a couple of months ago, so the loss of electricity >>wouldn't affect me at all. :) >> >>Cheers, >>Paolo > >I doubt it. You never record? If my teacher gives me a new composition to learn, I record it in my notebook. >Can you play shows without amplifying? I don't play shows. I've only been to five classes and have never before played any type of drum. >Didnt you ever go through the embarassing experience that someone politely >asked you to stop playing because he (or often: the public) prefered to >listen to a CD? Luckily, no. But I was involved in a situation where the dancers preferred us playing live musical accompaniment (even with our mistakes!!!) over recorded music. I did attend performances which consisted entirely of the composer slipping a tape into a player and pressing "Play" and we all just sat there and listened to the playback. I didn't get it at all until I realized it was a tape of music for multiple-channel sound (that is, more than the two for stereo). Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 14 22:55:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA08098; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:55:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:55:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000601bf16b7$281d5360$4f2a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "M T" , Subject: Re: Multi-effects (GT-3 mostly) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:42:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"-SI4W3.0.w81._Jf1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am (still) pretty psyched on the GT-3. It is phenomenally powerful, and I am beginning to believe that it will rival some $1,000-plus rack units in processing power. BUT be prepared to don your propeller hat and pen protector, as the manual truly sucketh. At the GT-3 email newsgroup, we seem to be rewriting the book, as it were, page by bloody page. Check out: GT-3@onelist.com for email and the Boss GT-3 Users' Site http://members.tripod.com/bossgt3/FAQ_Superframe.htm for the in-progress web site. In response to your questions, I don't know if the GT-3 will sound as "low-tech" as the EH microsynth, but I think it can be coaxed in that direction. It certainly does some more wildly extreme stuff (and cleanly!) than loads of EH pedals, the MicroSynth included. Think about what you heard when you demo'd the GT-3, and then think about being able to tweak EVERY parameter that you heard, including the order of effects. Remember also that EH stuff falls apart pretty easily, while the GT-3 is built like a tank. And if you swing the MIDI way, the GT-3 has your hookup. The slicer, if I remember correctly, has about ten preprogrammed rhythms in it, and no way to edit them. But by imposing another effect, like an in-sync trem, you could probably make it stutter into some new polyrhythm. I think the mere availability of rhythm based effects in sync is rad. There was a post just a day or two ago about beefing up the wah by using the (more powerful) autowah, and controlling it with the expression pedal. Such tricks are commonplace on the GT-3. You could, ferinstance, set up the expression pedal to control not only the wah, but to goose the highs of one of the selected preamps at the high end of the pedal's travel to really fizz it out, or bloat the bottom in a similar way, or make a wah morph into a cloud of delays... or a cloud of aluminum locusts, clattering Ring Modulator-like across fields of Escheresque step-chorus plants... "scuse me while I go play my GT-3ar..." Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: M T To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 12:41 PM Subject: Multi-effects (GT-3 mostly) >Hey all- > >I was wondering - I think you all were raving about this unit earlier, but I'm >not sure. I currently am using a Quadraverb GT with a wah & overdrive, and was >planning on adding an EH microsynth and a Echoplex, whenever the (*&&%$^%**&! I >can get ahold of one. THEN, I spent 2 hours the other day playing with the >GT3, and started to think I could make my life a lot easier if this thing can >do what I think it can, like get rid of my wah, forget about buying a separate >controller pedal, and ditch all the xtra cables. (there is no posted manual) > >My questions about the unit are: > >1. Do you have a lot of control over synth parameters - is it the equal of the >microsynth in this regard? >2. Do you have full control over the rhythms used by the slicer, gate and >others? > >Any input about this unit, as well as comparable units from other >manufacturers, would be very cool. (Most of the ones I saw had no synth >effects or anything like that.) Also, I heard the wah sucks. Is this true? > >Thanks, > >MT > > >===== >************************************************************* >This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. Thanks. >************************************************************* >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 00:30:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04464; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:30:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:30:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00d201bf16c1$e693ac40$b06b2e9c@oemcomputer> Reply-To: "Mike" From: "Mike" To: Subject: Re: Acid prg Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:01:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"YkRZB1.0.iZ5.bIg1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yup, I'm here to say that ACID kicks ass, and if you don't believe me, then who can you believe? ;-) Hey, how about a Looper's Delight ACID library? Mike Scheibinger Sound Development Manager Sonic Foundry Ambient Soundscapes: LAGOM http://www.mp3.com/artists/31/lagom.htm Site updated 7/10/99 -----Original Message----- From: leocavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 11, 1999 1:03 AM Subject: Re: Acid prg >hi > >I use Acid a lot and I think it's really an amazing app.... > >Mike S. (from SOnic FOundry) should be still on this list too... > >ciao >leo > >At 21.50 10/10/99 PDT, you wrote: >>Hello All, >> >>I've been using the SF Acid program for awhile now, and think its great. >> >>How many of you out there use it, at least occasionally? >> >>I would like to hear what many of you have accomplished w/it, >>and would like to chat a bit about some of the features. >> >>Please email! >>Take care, >> >>Seth >>strivard@hotmail.com >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 00:27:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03145; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:27:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:27:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001201bf16be$c3056050$144badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Answers to Mattias Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:38:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"C0Jb_2.0.zP4.K5g1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>Didnt you ever go through the embarassing experience that someone politely >>asked you to stop playing because he (or often: the public) prefered to >>listen to a CD? How is this any different from greebos yelling out 'requests' for so-called alternative pablum during a set? Just wondering. I'll shut up now. - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 00:27:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03266; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:27:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:27:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: GT-3 Guitar Synth parameters Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:13:58 -0700 Message-ID: <001a01bf16c3$b447c760$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <199910141619.JAA21327@scv3.apple.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"YStTJ3.0.zz6.ueg1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, I can say that the MicroSynth is just a distortion pedal with a built-in volume pedal -- you can make it "fade" you in as though with an envelope filter on a synthesiser (this is great with lots of echoes). It also has a built-in wah-wah pedal in that you can make it seem that it's opening and closing a filter around the waveform. But it's just a nice way of managing distortion to fake a real synth. | -----Original Message----- | From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:hartne.t@apple.com] | Sent: Thursday 14 October 1999 9:19 AM | To: Looper's Delight | Subject: GT-3 Guitar Synth parameters | | | Someone was asking yesterday about what parameters were | adjustable on the | GT-3 synth effect, and how it compares with the EH Microsynth. | I don't have | the Microsynth manual here, but here's what you can control on the GT-3: ... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 03:16:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18650; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:16:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:16:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1815937a.25382867@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:49:11 EDT Subject: Re: dear heloise To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"Hb0hI2.0.q_2.Wwi1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com michael, Positive pressure ventilation is used to keep radon out of basements and other underground living spaces. And it's amazing how little a fan is needed to keep the radon levels down near zero...probably would work on airborne dust too(?). If it were me, I would start with a whisper-quiet computer power supply fan. For it to work (ie: have positive pressure), the room must be pretty tightly sealed and a small opening (with small fan blowing in) steadily maintaining the pressure in the room slightly above the rest of the building. I change my furnace filters once a month religiously and that makes a huge difference in the amount of dust that lands on my gear. When I forget for even a couple of weeks, I can really tell the difference. And dust is attracted to electronic equipment like nothing else. Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 03:21:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19699; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:21:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:21:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <0.dcbf3d23.253821ce@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:21:02 EDT Subject: spam apology To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"n3Q0J3.0.Oj.2Wi1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com so i was at work and the my girlfriend was checking my mail said "there's this thing that says if you forward it you'll get money" -- i said forward to everyoneone in my mail box (that's less than a dozen people). I was drunk. Now i'm sober and i realize i'm a bit of an a-hole. sorry. I'll never forward anything again. That's a sincere promise and apology. If ya all want to flame me and ban from the list that o.k. too -- i will still keep loooping. Even though I didn't reallly know what was taking place in my name I still assume full responsiblity... I'd have been pissed if i got it so i understand all the shit i've gotten for sending it. cheers and happy looping. jack From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 07:54:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA19752; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:54:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:54:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3807144D.E9E291A5@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 04:47:25 -0700 From: potter Reply-To: potter@cruzio.com Organization: Potter Family Circus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: subscribe to collegeman55@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OeJfB3.0.AZ4.pHn1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com subcribe From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 08:22:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA25359; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:22:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:22:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <38070EF8.B954F803@compuserve.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:24:40 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: audiomulch patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_HAMh2.0.yx5.Wjn1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello loopland, i'm back after after a long hiatus. after having first found out about the audiomulch software (fer windoze) from this list, i've spent a fair bit of time using it in the last coupla weeks. what a great tool! it's basically a modular system of gadgets that you can wire together in any way imaginable (until your computer chokes). in addition to many interesting and bizarre effects, it also includes a loop player (ahhh, list relevancy!). there are even 4x4 and 8x8 mixer matrices which can be misused to produce organic feedback/ glitch storms a la David Myers (still on the list Dave?) or Merzbow. i've produced some intersting patches using the 4x4 matrix as well as using the granulators, nebulizers, risset filters etc. for example, the bubbleblower granulator is great for creating continuous streams of rhythmically chopped speech a la Autechre or Boards Of Canada. to the point: any of you out there messing with this stuff as well? are any of you interested in exchanging patches? rob -the man cable- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 09:00:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00783; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:00:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:00:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:50:11 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910151250.IAA25498@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: fwd:fwd:etc.hey it hurts -- Kb and KB Resent-Message-ID: <"-x8AP2.0.ab7.QCo1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com wrote: > Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 400 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: RE: fwd:fwd:etc.hey it hurts -- Kb and KB > From: "Javier Miranda V." > > I would also like everybody to start saying what they mean: "Kb" is not > the same as "KB." > In computer circles, the letter "K" is always uppercase. Also, computer > people tried to have the letter "K" be uppercase for binary systems and > lowercase for decimal systems, but nobody pays any attention to that. > Let's be on the same page about this. > > OK, now everybody, how many bits in a byte? Now let's see... If there are four bits (binary digits) in a nybble and two nybbles in a byte, then there must be eight bits in a byte. What's your word size? :-) -- Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 10:32:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21222; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:32:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:32:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:16:09 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910151416.KAA25576@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"gcZp62.0.eI4.0Tp1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #134 October 14, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued Oktoberfest EMUSIC-style with a month-long focus on the artist roster of the German label Manikin. The feature CD at midnight was "Interkosmos" by Fanger & Kersten. Manikin : http://www.manikin.com EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html Monk and Hearts of Space recording group Coyote Oldman will appear at the next Gathering on October 23 at St. Mary's Church Sanctuary. The Electronic Music Mini Festival will be held at the Theatre 3-in-1 in Huizen, The Netherlands on October 30. Ron Boots & Friends, Syndromeda, Free System Project with Patchwork, Wave World, and Gert Emmens will be the performing artists. Music was played in support of these two outstanding events. EMUSIC Events : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html The Gathering : http://www.starsend.org/20gather.html Mini Festival : http://home.wxs.nl/~quantumproductions/minifest.htm Mini Festival : http://www.groove.nl/news.html#oct99 ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Tales Ankalerye's Terklands Interstellar Memories (SIT) Dub Automica Autonomic Autonomic (DiN) Jorg Schaaf Eric's Birth Sonar Experience (96 Sounds) Steve Roach Realm of Refraction Light Fantastic (Fathom) Coyote Oldman Brilliant Darkness TheShapeOfTime(CoyoteOldmanMusic) Ron Boots Dewdrop Plungle Tainted Bare Skin (Groove) Fanger & Kersten Interkosmos Interkosmos (Manikin) 12:00 am Fanger & Kersten New Times Interkosmos (Manikin) Fanger & Kersten Deep Sleep Interkosmos (Manikin) Fanger & Kersten Nightshift Interkosmos (Manikin) Fanger & Kersten Searched Interkosmos (Manikin) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long Oktoberfest focus on the German label, Manikin. The Feature CD at Midnight will be "The Ancient Saga" by Arcanum. EMUSIC will also be participating in the WDIY membership drive next week. Interstellar Memories by Tales (Somewhere In Time Records) will be added to the list of CD choices offered as thank you gifts at the Family pledge level. Available ONLY during EMUSIC!! And to make this edition of EMUSIC special, Tribal-Ambient master Steve Roach will phone in a live interview from the Timeroon in Arizona! Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 11:57:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09526; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:57:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F913B@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: JAMMAN sold on EBAY for $730 !!! Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:32:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"Dqtc03.0.Re.Cbq1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well I thought I was going to get this one but someone came in in the last 2 hours and ran the price from $430 to $730 !!! Guess I have to wait for another one or think about a DL4 for now !!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! G. Weideman From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 12:03:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12373; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:03:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:03:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991015153307.70907.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [130.85.53.60] From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: audiomulch patches Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:33:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"i9lYW2.0.wg.mbq1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Rob- Yo. I have been exclusively using audiomulch stuff for the past few months now to the frustration of all my other instruments and schwag. It is easy to get a repore going with it. I will tone up some stuff using different parts of the frequency spectrum to add a little wobble and complexity to the tone and then begin bubbling up, looping, and combining stuff together. I then have been working with a British composer friend of mine who has been doing stuff in Koan and he then creates stuff in and around my work. Really some great stuff. Between that and Soundedit 16 for the MAC (which I generated and recorded my album "The Dead Sometimes Speak" that's going to be coming out this year ) it has been an exciting time and a new direction for my work. good God y'all! Buck >From: Cummings >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers Delight >Subject: audiomulch patches >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 13:24:40 +0200 > >hello loopland, i'm back after after a long hiatus. after having first >found out about the audiomulch software (fer windoze) from this list, >i've spent a fair bit of time using it in the last coupla weeks. what a >great tool! > >it's basically a modular system of gadgets that you can wire together in >any way imaginable (until your computer chokes). in addition to many >interesting and bizarre effects, it also includes a loop player (ahhh, >list relevancy!). there are even 4x4 and 8x8 mixer matrices which can be >misused to produce organic feedback/ glitch storms a la David Myers >(still on the list Dave?) or Merzbow. i've produced some intersting >patches using the 4x4 matrix as well as using the granulators, >nebulizers, risset filters etc. for example, the bubbleblower granulator >is great for creating continuous streams of rhythmically chopped speech >a la Autechre or Boards Of Canada. > >to the point: any of you out there messing with this stuff as well? are >any of you interested in exchanging patches? > >rob >-the man cable- > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 11:54:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08547; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:54:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:54:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38074D4C.77AFC521@engin.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:50:41 -0400 From: Darcy Clark Reply-To: darcyc@engin.umich.edu Organization: MSE, Umich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: audiomulch patches References: <38070EF8.B954F803@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"W0Jtm1.0.Qf1.Mpq1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have played with AudioMulch, but it as of the last beta it would crash my machine very regularly. I have yet to extensive tweak the latest beta yet to see if the stability has improved. That said I would be extremely interested in swapping patches with other loopers. Darcy Cummings wrote: > > hello loopland, i'm back after after a long hiatus. after having first > found out about the audiomulch software (fer windoze) from this list, > i've spent a fair bit of time using it in the last coupla weeks. what a > great tool! > > to the point: any of you out there messing with this stuff as well? are > any of you interested in exchanging patches? > > rob > -the man cable- -- --------------------------------------------------- Ph: (734) 764 3377 Email: darcyc@engin.umich.edu URL: http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~darcyc/ --------------------------------------------------- 'If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate' ..... Steven Wright From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 12:30:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20623; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:30:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:30:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F913C@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: WTB: Lexicon JAMMAN Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:52:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"NCGWd1.0.Xs1.Atq1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Seriously looking for a good used JAMMAN. Let me know if you have one to sell or know of someone who does !! Thanks to the list G. Weideman From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 18:30:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11145; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:30:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:30:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.8f142ca4.2538fe5e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:02:06 EDT Subject: Re: Hoax Spam Continued To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"PkoYN2.0.gL1.yHw1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com uncsubscribe: anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 19:59:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA32479; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:59:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:59:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3807BA1F.87FF93E1@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 19:34:55 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Hoax Spam Continued References: <0.8f142ca4.2538fe5e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XWoon.0.-Z6.udx1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't believe that I have seen that spelling before, Kim? Anomoleee@aol.com wrote: > uncsubscribe: anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 21:34:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20890; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:34:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 21:34:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Phil Petrocelli To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: soultheft goes live on MP3.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:13:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Resent-Message-ID: <"dZxWc1.0.s34.L5z1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Finally. The laziness factor in my life staggers me sometimes. > http://www.mp3.com/soultheft. > > Feedback welcome - lemme know what you think. Please pass this on to > whomever might be interested. > > Thanks. > > Phil > > ==================== > My other vehicle is my mind. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 22:10:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28176; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:10:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:10:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:37:12 +0000 Subject: Re: UK Headrush anyone? From: "Martin Shellard" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id VAA24391 Resent-Message-ID: <"9qe0r1.0.b-5.pez1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes I have one, I had some trouble finding one but I think someone found one for me at Turnkey in London for Ģ130. Martin Shellard ---------- >From: SoundFNR@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: UK Headrush anyone? >Date: Thu, Oct 14, 1999, 2:37 pm > > Has anyone in UK seen an Akai Headrush? > > Andy Butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 15 23:59:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA18301; Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:59:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:59:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991016033951.7726.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: spam apology Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:39:50 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"EYG4q3.0.af3.xE_1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm drunk right now and I think you look very pretty. Mr. Tough :) >From: Jax1723@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: spam apology >Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:21:02 EDT > >so i was at work and the my girlfriend was checking my mail said "there's >this thing that says if you forward it you'll get money" -- i said forward >to everyoneone in my mail box (that's less than a dozen people). I was >drunk. Now i'm sober and i realize i'm a bit of an a-hole. sorry. I'll >never forward anything again. That's a sincere promise and apology. If ya >all want to flame me and ban from the list that o.k. too -- i will still >keep loooping. Even though I didn't reallly know what was taking place in >my >name I still assume full responsiblity... I'd have been pissed if i got it >so >i understand all the shit i've gotten for sending it. > cheers and happy looping. > jack > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 11:26:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18199; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:26:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:26:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38085A59.DE9772AC@toddreynolds.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:01:36 +0000 From: Todd Reynolds Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: I'm Moving!!!!! Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4C08E158D8938337B7C7187E" Resent-Message-ID: <"18sha.0.RR3.tG92u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4C08E158D8938337B7C7187E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit now the only thing to do is find an apartment and gather boxes. (where can I get them in bulk around here?) dear friends, I've made the committment to find another living space. There is no current pressure to do so, so i'm putting out the appropriate feelers. I request that you keep me in mind if you become aware of spaces in manhattan, brooklyn, washington heights, east village, long island city, really, no possibility is closed to me. with regard to specifics i'm looking for what everybody looks for, the most space for the least amount of money. go figure. My budget is only somewhat flexible. thank you for your consideration, and your friendship. if it starts to come down to the wire, i'll probably start offering door prizes, but for now, my request is only based on your generosity and our relationship, thanks, and hope you are well todd reynolds please resist feeling obligated to respond if you have no information. the last thing i intend is to use up more valuable email time for you... --------------4C08E158D8938337B7C7187E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="todd.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Todd Reynolds Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="todd.vcf" begin:vcard n:Reynolds;Todd tel;cell:917 861-1755 tel;fax:419 781-5502 tel;home:212 475-8559 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:todd@toddreynolds.com x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Todd Reynolds end:vcard --------------4C08E158D8938337B7C7187E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 11:54:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23741; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:54:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:54:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199910161543.LAA19154@user1.channel1.com> X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: RE: Does Lexicon fix a damaged JamMan Resent-Message-ID: <"vCzhn1.0.NJ5.dr92u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Tim, Sorry to disappoint you, but my experience with Lexicon is limited to the JamMan. I may lust after some of their products, but haven't had the money or time to invest in them. Frank At 06:43 AM 10/14/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Frank. My name is Tim Cassler...I am in San Antonio, TX. I Hope today >finds you well! > >Are you up to speed on the new Lexicons? Are they making anything now that >is comparable to the JamMan? I am new to the looping thing, but I know that >I do not want to spend $1,000 for an effects processor, just because it >samples. > >You sound like you have an appreciation for the Lexicon makes...can you >advise me? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Frank Gerace [SMTP:seahorse@channel1.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 5:36 PM >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Subject: Re: Does Lexicon fix a damaged JamMan >> >> Absolutely. They have a bench charge, which if I remember correctly, is >> around $90. Look through the old digests and get Greg Hogan's number (at >> Lexicon). He's very helpful and they do a great job. I've had two in for >> work and they work just fine now. >> >> Frank Gerace >> Dreamchild >> >> At 12:52 PM 10/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >Hi, >> > >> >Just wondering if Lexicon will fix a JamMan if it breaks ?? >> > >> >G. Weideman >> > >> > >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 12:29:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30750; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:29:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:29:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000e01bf17f4$00b3b6a0$38b94e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Hoax Spam Continued Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:32:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"yjjlN2.0.b97.VQA2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Perhaps the gentleman would like to subscribe his UNCle. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Hoax Spam Continued >I don't believe that I have seen that spelling >before, Kim? > >Anomoleee@aol.com wrote: > >> uncsubscribe: anomoleee@aol.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 14:16:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18341; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:16:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 14:16:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: I'm Moving!!!!! Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:09:33 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bf1801$99523a00$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38085A59.DE9772AC@toddreynolds.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"rS7Bl.0.6B4.yzB2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Todd, good luck on your move. But NY is big and there must be somewhere for you; it can't all be possibly taken out. I do remember big buildings left empty for years, but that's another story. As a public service to all fellow Loopers of our species, I would like to risk posting this non-looping-related item. I have just discovered this week that Yahoo! now offers, besides the excellent free e-mail and other services, now they offer free POP3 connections! I have done it and proved it works perfectly, but still don't believe it... You can customize your Eudora, Outlook Express/98/2000, Netscape, or whatever e-mail client you use, to connect via the Internet to their SMTP and POP servers to both send and receive e-mail. This, combined with the several "free" Internet-connection services out there, means that you can connect to the Web at 56K and have a permanent e-mail account for free... The significance of the free e-mail account is that when you move, only you move, not your e-mail. You maintain a single point of contact with all your friends and family, even though you move between different houses, ISPs, or whatever -- sell your Echoplex, sell your Boomerang, sell your EH 16-sec -- you still have the same e-mail address... No hastles e-mailing everybody that your e-mail address is changing. Not only that, but other companies charge anywhere from $10 to $25 yearly so that you have this nice convenience. I hope some of you find this important and get your free SMTP and POP services at Yahoo too. Well, we all here have e-mail addresses, yes? Thanks; you can resume your looping activities now. Javier From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 17:44:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14050; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:44:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:44:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000c01bf181e$b5137520$a08a99d1@u01vj> From: "Pete" To: "loopers" Subject: fruityloops Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 17:37:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF17FD.2CB3AA40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"mQK9I2.0.R83.b1F2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF17FD.2CB3AA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some = looping of small wave samples=20 for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has = used this program for looping. If so what do you all think about it?=20 Does it work for you? Have you found any major shortcomings? Thanks for any and all input- Pete=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF17FD.2CB3AA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been using a program called fruityloops = for drum=20 loops, and some looping of small wave samples
 
for about a month or so. = I'm=20 wondering if anyone else on this list has used this program for=20 looping.
 
If so what do you all think about it?
 
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Thanks for any and all input-
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF17FD.2CB3AA40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 18:28:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22902; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:28:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 18:28:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1272010054==_ma============" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 07:20:39 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: LD Vol.2 RealAudio site Resent-Message-ID: <"VUI7d.0.t95.TeF2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --============_-1272010054==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Very very sorry for my delay. I made LD Vol.2 RealAudio site. http://www.cavestudio.com/S+V/LD2_RA.html It need Real Player G2 or greater for listen. I refer to http://www.finleysound.com/loop/Looper_info.html for the web design. Thanks Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com --============_-1272010054==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Very very sorry for my delay. I made LD Vol.2 RealAudio site. http://www.cavestudio.com/S+V/LD2_RA.html It need Real Player G2 or greater for listen. I refer to http://www.finleysound.com/loop/Looper_info.html for the web design. Thanks Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com --============_-1272010054==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 16 19:58:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08170; Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:58:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:58:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002201bf1831$9784f340$968a99d1@u01vj> From: "Pete" To: "loopers" Subject: fruityloops Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:53:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"Jnzzp2.0.ki1.K0H2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com (Sorry about the HTML floyd,) I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some looping of small wave samples for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has used this program for looping. If so what do you all think about it? Does it work for you? Have you found any major shortcomings? Thanks for any and all input- Pete From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 00:30:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA00611; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:30:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:30:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38091421.8A6B5C89@toddreynolds.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:11:15 +0000 From: Todd Reynolds Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: I'm Moving!!!!! References: <38085A59.DE9772AC@toddreynolds.com> <380913FE.F3212A5@toddreynolds.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F2E38852F409114B614422D3" Resent-Message-ID: <"VjArP1.0.q-5.EiK2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2E38852F409114B614422D3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Reynolds wrote: > I'm sooo sorry, inadvertently sent a personal email to the list. My > apologies... to everyone. --------------F2E38852F409114B614422D3 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="todd.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Todd Reynolds Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="todd.vcf" begin:vcard n:Reynolds;Todd tel;cell:917 861-1755 tel;fax:419 781-5502 tel;home:212 475-8559 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:todd@toddreynolds.com x-mozilla-cpt:;3 fn:Todd Reynolds end:vcard --------------F2E38852F409114B614422D3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 00:42:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03655; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:42:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:42:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38095C82.65F10BFF@cdm.sfai.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 21:20:05 -0800 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Organization: San Francisco Art Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Where to buy Steinberger strings in SF area? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Resent-Message-ID: <"NijgB3.0.OY6.UrK2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey pals, Anyone know where one would buy TranstremŪ strings or Double ball bass strings? Yeah, I've got a soft spot for these headless mutants, but The Guitar Center did not have them and I'm new out here and don't know where to go. Thanks, Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 01:25:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11864; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:25:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:25:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005201bf185d$be89f2c0$c473d6d1@micronjenni> From: "Jenni Leeds" To: References: <199910170053.UAA19328@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: AudioMulch Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 00:09:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"dmrKh1.0.tw1.5ZL2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cool. um er. I'm speechless. Yes. AudioMulch is very cool. Emphasize very. I'm interested in exchanging patches and ideas...although I'm just beginning to work with this. You could be my guru though. Emphasize could. Anyway. Who is you. Ah yes. Does anybody er know of a decent inexpensive "stereo" in and out sound card for pee-seeez. I don't want to dip to deep into my pocket, it being my girlfriends computer in all. (Take that how you like). I'm actually preparing to buy a 1000 Mhz. Apple G4 super computer next summer ('cause they have all the best software, dig). So anyway the soundcard should be a PC based where as I can hook up a lexicon vortex audio out into the computer. Pulverize the sound with AudioMulch and send it out into a four-track (Don't ask). By the way thanks for the tips on the mp3 player hook-up compatibility. Experiment a success! Live sampling using audio tracks downloaded off the internet and loaded onto my mp3. Hell, I coulda just pressed play and stood their and enjoyed the random-fire mp3 samples. Cool. Yet I deterred in favor of tweeking them with my audio morpher and looping 'em with the echoplex. Cool. .....Next step, find a program that turns wav. to mp3 in which I can therefore mutilate sounds via audiomulch and resample as live mp3 sorcery! Also now have access to portable mini-disk w/ stereo mics for found-sound collage mysteries. I'm so excited about the possiblities! Egads! One further note. Have just put in an order with 3ms for the duo-distorter. It was just fate after I heard the My Bloody Valentine song on a real audio sample of the distorters sound! Oh heaven. Well gotta go. And to those that stuck with me through this whole entire message. Props! Jamie Mash {Experimental Music Director wmts 88.3} From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 02:29:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23416; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:29:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:29:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:08:47 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: our ambient music real audio site Resent-Message-ID: <"dtRDf2.0.1w4.VVM2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I also made our ambient music real audio site, Please visit and listen to: http://www.cavestudio.com/personaldance/ All music wirrten in 1995. enjoy Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 06:57:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA02288; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:57:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:57:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991017064711.00793580@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:47:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Where to buy Steinberger strings in SF area? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id GAA00615 Resent-Message-ID: <"tnmhV3.0.w9.xaQ2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:45:10 -0400 >To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu >From: Tim Nelson >Subject: Re: Where to buy Steinberger strings in SF area? >In-Reply-To: <38095C82.65F10BFF@cdm.sfai.edu> >References: > >You should probably talk to your small, friendly local music shop first to see if they'll stock 'em for ya, since it's good to keep your small, friendly local music shops in business. BUT, if you're unable to locate special-interest strings locally, has a huge variety of strings for normal guitars, abnormal guitars, ethnic instruments, etc., and their service is pretty fast. > >Tim > >At 09:20 PM 10/16/99 -0800, you wrote: >>Anyone know where one would buy TranstremŪ strings or Double ball bass >>strings? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 09:15:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26213; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:15:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:15:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991017130014.006e95a8@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:00:14 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: AudioMulch Resent-Message-ID: <"8vdOL2.0.Kg5.rXS2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi jamie At 00.09 17/10/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Cool. um er. I'm speechless. Yes. AudioMulch is very cool. Emphasize very. >I'm interested in exchanging patches and ideas...although I'm just beginning >to work with this. You could be my guru though. Emphasize could. Anyway. Who >is you. Ah yes. Does anybody er know of a decent inexpensive "stereo" in and >out sound card for pee-seeez. I don't want to dip to deep into my pocket, it >being my girlfriends computer in all. (Take that how you like). I'm actually >preparing to buy a 1000 Mhz. Apple G4 super computer next summer ('cause >they have all the best software, dig). So anyway the soundcard should be a >PC based where as I can hook up a lexicon vortex audio out into the >computer. Pulverize the sound with AudioMulch and send it out into a >four-track (Don't ask). sorry to ask... ;) but why don't you use the Audiomulch hard disk rendering option? > By the way thanks for the tips on the mp3 player hook-up compatibility. >Experiment a success! Live sampling using audio tracks downloaded off the >internet and loaded onto my mp3. Hell, I coulda just pressed play and stood >their and enjoyed the random-fire mp3 samples. Cool. Yet I deterred in favor >of tweeking them with my audio morpher and looping 'em with the echoplex. >Cool. .....Next step, find a program that turns wav. to mp3 in which I can >therefore mutilate sounds via audiomulch and resample as live mp3 sorcery! >Also now have access to portable mini-disk w/ stereo mics for found-sound >collage mysteries. I'm so excited about the possiblities! Egads! can you explain a little better? ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 09:10:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25281; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:10:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 09:10:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991017130013.006ed56c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:00:13 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: fruityloops Resent-Message-ID: <"HSSiP3.0.fg5.vXS2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com great little prog. ;) really creative when you start to put VST plugins on each track. maybe the output sound is a little weak... my impression? ciao leo At 17.37 16/10/99 -0400, you wrote: >I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some looping of small wave samples > >for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has used this program for looping. > >If so what do you all think about it? > >Does it work for you? > >Have you found any major shortcomings? > >Thanks for any and all input- > > Pete > > > > > > > >
I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum >loops, and some looping of small wave samples
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> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 17 19:09:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13160; Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:09:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:09:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <017301bf18f0$8634fb20$9ee931d4@demon.co.uk> From: "Lee Fletcher" To: Subject: UK Headrush? / Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:39:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0170_01BF18F8.E6D46B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"zTLRp3.0.Pd1.m1b2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0170_01BF18F8.E6D46B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Has anyone in UK seen an Akai Headrush? > >Andy Butler Yes. I probably had one of the first back in July after a very long = wait, (it had been on order since February.) I purchased mine through a = local music store - Soundpad, in Torquay - for 139 UK Pounds. Worth = every penny too. I've been away from the list for a little while due to the recent birth = of my first daughter, Sabrina Helen. During this time-out I finally got = around to uploading my first website. The URL is = http://www.waterleat.demon.co.uk if any of you Loopers would care to = check it out. I don't yet have audio clips, but these will be added = soon... Re - Loopers Delight CD Volume 1. If in doubt, buy it! I picked up a = copy shortly after the re-pressing and it's hardly been out of my player = since. Regards, -- Lee Fletcher http://www.waterleat.demon.co.uk ------=_NextPart_000_0170_01BF18F8.E6D46B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>Has anyone in = UK seen an Akai=20 Headrush?
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>Andy Butler
Yes. I probably had one = of the first=20 back in July after a very long wait, (it had been on order since=20 February.) I = purchased mine through=20 a local music store - Soundpad, in Torquay - for 139 UK Pounds. Worth = every=20 penny too.
 
I've been away from the = list for a=20 little while due to the recent birth of my first daughter, Sabrina = Helen.=20 During this time-out I finally got around to uploading my first website. = The URL=20 is http://www.waterleat.demon.co.u= k if=20 any of you Loopers would care to check it out. I don't yet have audio = clips, but=20 these will be added soon...
 
Re - = Loopers Delight CD=20 Volume 1. If in doubt, buy it! I picked up a copy shortly after the = re-pressing=20 and it's hardly been out of my player since.
 
Regards,

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Lee = Fletcher
 
http://www.waterleat.demon.co.u= k
------=_NextPart_000_0170_01BF18F8.E6D46B20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 01:06:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24900; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:06:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 01:06:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001a01bf1924$90dd4300$7498adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: VINTAGE Jamman memory on eBay Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:52:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"YnRak1.0.k75.SPg2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com man, I've gotta' stop combing the auction sites . . . they're at $122.50 and climbing . . . genuine SILICON upgrade chips to bring your Jamman up to 32 SECONDS get your bid in now . . . Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Jenni Leeds To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 12:57 AM Subject: Re: AudioMulch > >Cool. um er. I'm speechless. Yes. AudioMulch is very cool. Emphasize very. >I'm interested in exchanging patches and ideas...although I'm just beginning >to work with this. You could be my guru though. Emphasize could. Anyway. Who >is you. Ah yes. Does anybody er know of a decent inexpensive "stereo" in and >out sound card for pee-seeez. I don't want to dip to deep into my pocket, it >being my girlfriends computer in all. (Take that how you like). I'm actually >preparing to buy a 1000 Mhz. Apple G4 super computer next summer ('cause >they have all the best software, dig). So anyway the soundcard should be a >PC based where as I can hook up a lexicon vortex audio out into the >computer. Pulverize the sound with AudioMulch and send it out into a >four-track (Don't ask). > By the way thanks for the tips on the mp3 player hook-up compatibility. >Experiment a success! Live sampling using audio tracks downloaded off the >internet and loaded onto my mp3. Hell, I coulda just pressed play and stood >their and enjoyed the random-fire mp3 samples. Cool. Yet I deterred in favor >of tweeking them with my audio morpher and looping 'em with the echoplex. >Cool. .....Next step, find a program that turns wav. to mp3 in which I can >therefore mutilate sounds via audiomulch and resample as live mp3 sorcery! >Also now have access to portable mini-disk w/ stereo mics for found-sound >collage mysteries. I'm so excited about the possiblities! Egads! > One further note. Have just put in an order with 3ms for the >duo-distorter. It was just fate after I heard the My Bloody Valentine song >on a real audio sample of the distorters sound! Oh heaven. Well gotta go. >And to those that stuck with me through this whole entire message. Props! > >Jamie Mash >{Experimental >Music Director >wmts 88.3} > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 02:38:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12442; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:38:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 02:38:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380ABCF4.636CC05E@home.com> Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 23:23:48 -0700 From: ROLAND EBERLE Organization: @Home Network Member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lambrecht CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: VINTAGE Jamman memory on eBay References: <001a01bf1924$90dd4300$7498adce@satellite> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"z2UNt.0.Ix1.1mh2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com All interested in upgrading your JamMan... if what Tom wrote is true that's preposterous...for info I have a few sets of chips that will get you upgraded to 32 secs...and they're yours for $40 for a set of 4...email me privately if interested...I sold some of the same batch to other list members a few months ago and everyone was quite happy with the chips and the deal. thanks...Roland (number17@home.com) Tom Lambrecht wrote: > > man, I've gotta' stop combing the auction sites . . . > > they're at $122.50 and climbing . . . genuine SILICON upgrade chips to bring > your Jamman up to 32 SECONDS > > get your bid in now . . . > > Tom Lambrecht From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 10:38:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05955; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:38:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:38:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380B32C2.97089428@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:46:26 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Synchronization band-loop (machine-loop) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"caeW9.0.R67.zUo2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry to reply so late was in holidays in my litle casa down in Ibiza...... Matthias Grob wrote: > > >Matthias Grob wrote: > >> > >> Jim asked: > >> >Anyone use the EDP midi out to sync. drum machines? > >> >I always find that even with 1/8th beats at max. the > >> >clock output is far too slow even on a 5sec. base loop. > >> > >> Oh, thats interesting. It would not be complicated to change the 1/8th > >> beats table. Maybe it should not contain all the odd beat numbers, but > >> bigger ones instead? > > Jim again: > >propable a bad idea (and assuming your still up for ideas > >for firmware "upgrades) but ... how about an option instead > >of 1/8th beats where you can dial in a bpm setting which > >generates a clock-out and controls the quantised functions? > >then instead of 1/8th beats you could simple have a choice > >of 4/4 3/4 or triplet times which determined how the EDP > >quantises your loop time to the beat pattern. > > One thing is the definition of the timing with a programable dial-number > variable. Certainly not for EDP any more, but for something bigger, many > wished that. > > The other thing is the definition of the measure. We only have one button > for it. As I understand, you would be satisfied with just 4/4, 3/4 and > multiples while others seam to want all options up to 63/8 ? Really?: > > Claude finds: > >Adding bigger ones is needed > > ok, lets look for a solution! > > >but cutting out some values could start a war... > > I hope the soldiers step out here and declare their credo to avoid the war! > If I simply increase the table, you get a tired finger. as the new edp soft will have presets this wouldn't be a real problem now assign a cc to the 8th value you can make the sequencer switch tempo on the fly while keeping the loop lenght intact I'm not sure every seq can hold that but I just tried with seq303 www.technotoys.com and MMT8 and it works trop cool went from 4/4 (8)to 3/4 6/8 (6) with the 4/4 loop washing away while the new meter fighting his way in just try it mannually on the EDP display (I sometimes send a stop/start to realign the seq to the loop) > I can make the longpress count quickly (like Source#...) instead of go back > to 8, which I found more usefull and might start another "war"... the worst problem is actually when you miss the target value and have to make a long press to start again (8th/beat) or go thru all the values like (Source#) is there no way to use the parameter btn to make alt functions for scrolling values like push 8th/beat (long), it starts scrolling fwd, keeping the button pressed hit PAR (short) :scrolls backward hit PAR long scrolls fast hope this helps Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 12:23:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31585; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:23:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:23:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910181534.IAA21179@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:34:40 -0500 Subject: FS: Boomerang, $350, (Harmony Central) From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XuxSa2.0.Ok4.iup2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Boomerang Phrase Sampler Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Very New, almost never used Boomerang Phrase Sampler. Samples up to four minutes of music. playing, etc. Does just about everything you can imagine. I need the money and and getting rid of it cheap. The warranty tag hasn't even been sent in. A new one is not any better! Any questions e-mail me. $350 or best offer! Seller: Clint Cryer, E-mail: ccryer@ttacs.ttu.edu (Profile) Post Date: 10/17/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 14:56:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06199; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:56:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:56:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380B67B8.D0B78047@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 04:32:24 +1000 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: LD Vol.2 RealAudio site References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_phws.0.Wr7.NWs2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sunao Inami wrote: > > Hi, > > Very very sorry for my delay. > > I made LD Vol.2 RealAudio site. > > http://www.cavestudio.com/S+V/LD2_RA.html > > It need Real Player G2 or greater for listen. > I refer to http://www.finleysound.com/loop/Looper_info.html for the web design. > > Thanks > > Sunao Inami > http://www.cavestudio.com fantastic !!!!! ... what i've heard so far has been nothing short of brilliant ... well done to all involved ... (yep i know it was a couple of years ago) ... ummm.... WOW ... brad From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 18:07:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25988; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:07:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:07:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:04:10 -0400 Subject: line6 From: "Joey Dail" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"vvyxY1.0.Oi5.PVv2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anybody heard anything about the new delay from line6? Does the loop mode allow you to overdub loops? And is the reverse mode as good as the JamMan? How aplicable to live settings is it? Just give me any info you've got, ok? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 19:27:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12624; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:27:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:27:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <5BF896CAFE8DD111812400805F1991F71475F176@RED-MSG-08> From: Phil Petrocelli To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: FREE SEATTLE SHOW!!! Sunday, 10/24: soultheft vs. Quixote Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:41:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Resent-Message-ID: <"drDTV3.0.wU.S9w2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Hey there, folks. A lot of you on this list know me simply as a guy named > Phil. This email is to inform you that my alter-ego, soultheft, is going > to make a brief appearance along with my good friend Quixote for an hour > or two of improvised noise, sounds, environments, experimental > electronics, etc. on Sunday, Oct. 24. Here is what the ad in The Tentacle > (http://www.tentacle.org) says about us: > > "Improvised pops, clicks, skips, new vocabulary words, and simulated train > wrecks, with all the grace and good looks of a retarded Shaolin swordsman. > Audience participation encouraged and strongly recommended. Got a CD, > tape, or record that you would like to make part of the performance? Bring > it along - we'll add it! We might even share some of the loot with you." > > The tools we'll be using include turntables, samplers, tape players, > various records and tapes, and lots of processing, mostly in the form of > guitar effects boxes. It will probably be light on beats, heavier on > mindf@ck. This is your chance to listen to what goes on inside our heads > when we're being talked to death by scenesters waiting in lines to > out-cool everyone at music venues all over the world. Glad-handing: it's > what's for dinner. > > This show is the receptor hole on the delicious custard-filled Winchell's > Donut substitute that is the All the Transients Concert Series > (http://members.xoom.com/transients/attpres.html). > Entrainment commences at approximately 8pm on Sunday, Oct 24. > Habitat Espresso in Seattle > (http://yp.uswest.com/cgi/search.fcg?mq=Y&listing_id=180829057&state=Washi > ngton) is the Skinner Box onlookers will pack into. Be nice to the > chess-playing regulars. Bring us all your loose change and used razor > blades. > > If you're not willing to take the risk based on this craftily engineered > waste of bandwidth, try out the material located at > http://www.mp3.com/soultheft first. Once you've listened, it's safe to > make other plans for that evening. Hell, we know there will be many > people sitting around talking about football and Budweiser who we're sure > need the companionship. > > Thanks for reading, and we hope to see some of you there. Please forward > this mail to anyone you think might be interested. > > "Black Sabbath, man." > > Phil > > P.S. - This email was not generated by a script, nor can you expect to be > spammed mercilessly as a result. I typed this by hand, and will send this > sort of thing only once in a while. If you can't stand even that, please > let me know and I will remove you from the list. > > ==================== > My other vehicle is my mind. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 23:24:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06824; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:24:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:24:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9144@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: line6 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:23:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"bkomY2.0.3l.w3-2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Joey, Yes it allows overdubs and was modeled after the Boomerang as uses a similar 4 switch scheme to control the 1/2 speed, tap tempo and reverse. I have one on order I think they are due out around Nov. 1st. It uses 24 bit processing and has a 14 second looper. Check it out at line6.com or harmonycentral.com !! Gary Weideman > ---------- > From: Joey Dail[SMTP:stumbleine@macconnect.com] > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 5:04 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: line6 > > Anybody heard anything about the new delay from line6? Does the loop mode > allow you to overdub loops? And is the reverse mode as good as the > JamMan? > How aplicable to live settings is it? Just give me any info you've got, > ok? > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 18 23:48:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13020; Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:48:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:48:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201bf19e0$7b580d00$a05bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: "Yuriko" , "yemina serodino" , "Yemina" , "WR Discos" , , "Vicki/Ariel" , "Vera Baltensperger" , "vera" , "Valeria" , "Valentin" , "Tony Dale" , "Terry" , "Tatyana/Cintia" , "Tano Tchervis" , "Tagedes" , "Stephen P. Goodman" , "Spencer" , "Sora Maia" , "Smiles - Programa de Milhagem VARIG/Rio-Sul/Nordeste/Pluna" , , "SandraAntonio" , "Rodrigo Vasquez" , "Rita" , =?Windows-1252?Q?Ricardo_Enrique_Murgu=EDa?= , "RBT" , "Raul" , "Ramiro Mussotto" , "Rambo" , "Rafael Batista Mineiro de Souza" , "Quique Burgoa" , , "Peter Balzli" , "Pedro Aznar" , , "Panetta" , , "Old Europa Cafe / Rodolfo Protti" , "Norman Paul Kliman" , "Nino Moura" , "Neyse" , "NeyRicEdu" , "Nestor Mussotto" , "Nestor Cristina" , "Nancy2" , "Nancy" , "Nachin" , "mundusfundus" , "Mikael" , "metazak" , , , , "Memo" , "Matthias Grob" , "Matthias Grob" , "Mario Gentile" , "Mariella Santiago" , "Marcos Saback" , "Marcia" , "Marcelo Marcolini" , "Marcello Marcolini" , "ManuelBB" , "Mail Delivery Subsystem" , , "Luis Salinas" , "Luis Maria Saavedra" , =?Windows-1252?Q?Luciano_Vass=E3o?= , "Lucas Santana" , , , "Livia" , "Liliane Reis" , "Levi Pereira" , "Letieres" , "Leo-Jo" , "Kim Flint" , "Katia Viegas" , "Julio Ochoa" , "Julio Moreno" , "Juan Martin Cora" , "Jorge Enei" , "Jorge Enei" , "Joatan" , =?Windows-1252?Q?Jo=E3o_Portela?= , "Jeti" , "Jennifer Sanders" , "jean-luc androuin" <"jean-luc androuin"androu1@club-internet.fr>, "Jason Davidson" , "Iencenella Records" , "hebbe" , "Hare" , "Gustavo Guedes" , "Guido Baltensperger" , "Gregui" , "gregor markowitz" , "GP-David/Luciano" , "Genaro" , "Gedilson" , "Gabriela Quiroga" , "FM de la calle" , "Fito Paes" , "Fabio Marc" , "esteban koundakjian" , "Espiga" , "Eduardo" , "Edla Lula" , "Edivaldo" , "Edivaldo" , "Dominic Smith" , "Daniel de Souza Oliveira Neto" , "damian losada" , "Dallara" , "dafne" , "Clayton Douglas" , "Claudio Delrieux" , "Chingo" , =?Windows-1252?Q?C=E9sar_Ruzieska?= , "caver ares" , "Carla2" , "Carla1" , "Camilo" , "Cacho Asprello" , "cacai" , "CABEZA GUSTAVO" , "Botafogo" , "Bocha" , "Bira" , "Bere" , "Bengt Nystrom" , "Barracas da Praia dos Artistas" , "Banzai" , , , "AndreBecker" , "Andre Tavares" , , "AMAR" , "AlfredoMoura" , "Alex & Tati" <"Alex & Tati"libra2@sti.com.br>, "Alejandro" , "Aldemir Cameron" , "Alceu do Cavaco" Subject: novo numero de tel. Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:59:01 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZL-u5.0.092.pN-2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Galera : meu novo numero e 461 6269.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 00:39:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28552; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:39:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:39:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991018212549.01510760@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:25:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring In-Reply-To: <199910011634.QAA14449@m4.worldnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"fkbXK1.0.CD5.A7_2u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Maybe some of you know about home wiring. I just moved to a recently remodeled old house. I plugged my computer's UPS in and the electical fault LED came on. Went to Radio Shack and bought an AC outlet analyzer. Although the outlets are three prong there is no ground on any of the outlets in the house except for the bathrooms and one outlet near the kitchen sink (another outlet near the sink has no ground but does have a GFCI outlet). About half of the outlets in the house also have reversed polarity. I went into the cellar to put in wiring for a second phone line and noticed that the electrical wiring is old. I found an electrical wiring FAQ and learned that the wiring in this house is K&T (knob and tube) - 2 conductor, no ground. Would I be risking life and limb by playing electic guitar in this house? Thanks for any related feedback. sean From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 02:43:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19520; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:43:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:43:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:22:02 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19991018212549.01510760@pop.mindspring.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <199910011634.QAA14449@m4.worldnet.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"yXFzm.0.r24.sy03u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:25 PM -0700 10/18/99, Sean wrote: >Maybe some of you know about home wiring. I just moved to a recently >remodeled old house. I'm an electronics engineer, don't know anything about that high voltage stuff. Try not to touch the wires....hope that helps. >Would I be risking life and limb by playing electic guitar in this house? In my expert opinion, the only good music made with electric guitars these days is by the people risking their lives to play it. You should welcome this opportunity! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 02:38:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA18533; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:38:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:38:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701bf19f9$f9e8d500$6a8a99d1@u01vj> From: "Pete" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991018212549.01510760@pop.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:19:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"c8FJQ1.0.wh3.0t03u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ignore it and it will go away or; It may plague you with sporadic hums, variant peaks, and other such anomalies! Clean power leaves less room for question, at least with my somewhat limited experience:) From: Sean To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:25 AM Subject: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring > Maybe some of you know about home wiring. I just moved to a recently > remodeled old house. > > I plugged my computer's UPS in and the electical fault LED came on. Went > to Radio Shack and bought an AC outlet analyzer. Although the outlets are > three prong there is no ground on any of the outlets in the house except > for the bathrooms and one outlet near the kitchen sink (another outlet near > the sink has no ground but does have a GFCI outlet). About half of the > outlets in the house also have reversed polarity. > > I went into the cellar to put in wiring for a second phone line and noticed > that the electrical wiring is old. I found an electrical wiring FAQ and > learned that the wiring in this house is K&T (knob and tube) - 2 conductor, > no ground. > > Would I be risking life and limb by playing electic guitar in this house? > > Thanks for any related feedback. > > sean > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 03:46:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA31035; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:46:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 03:46:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 00:28:30 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bf1a03$8ae2b2c0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"n8RYY.0.3o6.Ls13u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sage advice- I got a good chuckle from that one- Kim Flint wrote- I'm an electronics engineer, don't know anything about that high voltage stuff. Try not to touch the wires....hope that helps. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 09:22:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28938; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:22:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:22:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380C7852.225EFAFB@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:55:30 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. References: <000201bf19e0$7b580d00$a05bdfc8@doutor> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_rocC.0.hD6.to63u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Julio Moreno wrote: > > Galera : meu novo numero e 461 6269.... If I understand Kim should subcrybe all those people Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 11:33:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30785; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:33:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:33:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bf1a44$63279520$5616a5ce@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000201bf19e0$7b580d00$a05bdfc8@doutor> <380C7852.225EFAFB@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:12:39 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"_ZUc_3.0.Hu5.6g83u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is this perhaps a new cover of '867-5309', but with international restrictions? > Julio Moreno wrote: > > > > Galera : meu novo numero e 461 6269.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 11:46:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03178; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:46:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:46:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:38:58 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. Resent-Message-ID: <"TpN2V3.0.FK7.Tx83u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Is this perhaps a new cover of '867-5309', but with international >restrictions? > >> Julio Moreno wrote: >> > >> > Galera : meu novo numero e 461 6269.... Julio used to be a friend of mine. He plays a brilliant rock an blues guitar and uses a loop dealy of a long time, but he does not take care for other people enough, writes all wrong mails... then again, is it worth all the discussion, just because of half a line he did not mean to send to the list? For me, some other long mails that say little in some fancy cool street dialect are much worse! ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 16:08:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12840; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:08:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:08:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <0.16888d20.253e240b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:44:11 EDT Subject: OT: Minidisc vs. DAT for portable To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"Re59z2.0.Ke1.ZfC3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I know we did a bit of this a while back but I wasn't paying attention. I noticed, though that some of you did purchase MDs recently and I'm interested in hearing direct comparisons of the audio quality to that of 48KHz DAT, which is what I'm used to. On Nov.1 I'm headed to India and would like to record in various situations on battery power and as light as possible. I've used the Sony D8 DAT with good results, using an Audio Technica AT 822 stereo mic (pretty darn good mic for $300). But I might have to buy the recorder instead of borrowing it, and the MD would be a great convenience for live jams and as an audio source for looping (random access, etc.). Can anybody compare the mic pre-amps of their MD to those on the D7 or D8 Sony DAT? thanks, eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 16:07:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12611; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:07:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:07:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002c01bf1a6a$25a09640$285bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:40:03 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"DXSsU2.0.AO1.jcC3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry...i send other people to make this for me, because i been in another city when my telephone change the number and he send to ALL my mail list...sorry about this crime. Good health!!! julio ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthias Grob To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 1:38 PM Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. > >Is this perhaps a new cover of '867-5309', but with international > >restrictions? > > > >> Julio Moreno wrote: > >> > > >> > Galera : meu novo numero e 461 6269.... > > Julio used to be a friend of mine. He plays a brilliant rock an blues > guitar and uses a loop dealy of a long time, but he does not take care for > other people enough, writes all wrong mails... > > then again, is it worth all the discussion, just because of half a line he > did not mean to send to the list? > > For me, some other long mails that say little in some fancy cool street > dialect are much worse! > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 16:24:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17858; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:24:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:24:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:14:20 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910192014.QAA02707@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Resent-Message-ID: <"Nr4dy.0.Sj3.z4D3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice for October, 1999. (Shows #129 to #134; 26-August-1999 to 14-October-1999 Reported in alphabetical order by album title. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net CONTACT: >>> billfox@fast.net <<< ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Ozma - A Huge and Silent Place - Atomic City Alquimia - A Separate Reality - AMP Telomere - Astral Currents - Evenfall Dub Automica - Autonomic - DiN Cosmic Hoffman - Beyond the Galaxy - Heart & Mind Robert Carty - Cloud Pull - Deep Sky Music Robert Carty - Darklight - Deep Sky Music Richard Bone - Etherdome - Hypnos Fanger & Kersten - Interkosmos - Manikin Jean-Michel Jarre - Jarre Live - Dreyfus Steve Roach - Light Fantastic - Fathom Vidna Obmana - Memories Compiled 2 - Projekt Kevin Keller - Pendulum - Lektronic Soundscapes Robert Carty - Silent Dreams - Deep Sky Music David Helpling - Sleeping on the Edge of Shadows - Spotted Peccary Jorg Schaaf - Sonar Experience - Ninetysix Sounds Ron Boots - Tainted Bare Skin - Groove Tim Story - Threads - Eurock Vidna Obmana & Jeff Pearce - True Stories (Mirage) Keller & Schonwalder - The Two Piece Box (Manikin) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 17:31:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02146; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:31:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:31:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401bf1a78$adc91f20$eab84e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 17:26:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"g0nun3.0.1q7.L1E3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Pois nao! Nao e ruim. Tudo o mundo pode cometer um erro. Ate logo, Jaimezinho -----Original Message----- From: Julio Moreno To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 4:23 PM Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. >Sorry...i send other people to make this for me, because i been in another >city when my telephone change the number and he send to ALL my mail >list...sorry about this crime. >Good health!!! >julio >----- Original Message ----- >From: Matthias Grob >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 1:38 PM >Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. > > >> >Is this perhaps a new cover of '867-5309', but with international >> >restrictions? >> > >> >> Julio Moreno wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Galera : meu novo numero e 461 6269.... >> >> Julio used to be a friend of mine. He plays a brilliant rock an blues >> guitar and uses a loop dealy of a long time, but he does not take care for >> other people enough, writes all wrong mails... >> >> then again, is it worth all the discussion, just because of half a line he >> did not mean to send to the list? >> >> For me, some other long mails that say little in some fancy cool street >> dialect are much worse! >> >> >> >> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 19:38:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31595; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:38:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:38:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1c2e8f0d.253e4ea0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:45:52 EDT Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"PRzaL2.0.fl4.eJF3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/19/99 7:31:04 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes: << Pois nao! Nao e ruim. Tudo o mundo pode cometer um erro. Ate logo, >> im sorry, but does the above mean.........julio, you can be my friend and im am going to give you a call later ...........:)........manuel From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 21:25:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22695; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:25:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:25:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Laurie Hatch" To: Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:10:17 -0700 Message-ID: <000401bf1a97$dee1ff40$d8edb5cf@lloopoo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000101bf1a03$8ae2b2c0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"q5Q4Z.0.1j4.nQH3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From: Clifford Novey [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:29 AM > > Sage advice- I got a good chuckle from that one- > > Kim Flint wrote- > I'm an electronics engineer, don't know anything about that high voltage > stuff. Try not to touch the wires....hope that helps. Or if ya do touch 'em, just use one hand! Seriously, my sweetie's uncle was a high-voltage guy; he worked on wiring the big dams back in the 40's. Under emergency circumstances, he would make repairs on live million-volt circuits -- with one hand in his pocket. It boggles the mind. laurie From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 22:05:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32180; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:05:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:05:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <010c01bf1a9e$dd5e4140$7e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:00:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"OOVmN2.0._U7.C7I3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's not the volts that'll kill ya, it's the amps. Be careful. Rubber-soled shoes please! - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Laurie Hatch To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring >> From: Clifford Novey [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 12:29 AM >> >> Sage advice- I got a good chuckle from that one- >> >> Kim Flint wrote- >> I'm an electronics engineer, don't know anything about that high voltage >> stuff. Try not to touch the wires....hope that helps. > > >Or if ya do touch 'em, just use one hand! > >Seriously, my sweetie's uncle was a high-voltage guy; he worked on wiring >the big dams back in the 40's. Under emergency circumstances, he would make >repairs on live million-volt circuits -- with one hand in his pocket. > >It boggles the mind. > >laurie > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 22:50:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10375; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:50:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:50:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001a01bf1aa5$7a3b5ce0$aa5bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <0.1c2e8f0d.253e4ea0@aol.com> Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:47:39 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"WEfQY3.0.WH2.8qI3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com : ) julio ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:45 PM Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. > In a message dated 10/19/99 7:31:04 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, > j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes: > > << Pois nao! Nao e ruim. Tudo o mundo pode cometer um erro. > > Ate logo, > >> > > im sorry, but does the above mean.........julio, you can be my friend and im > am going to give you a call later ...........:)........manuel > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 22:26:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04361; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:26:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:26:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: novo numero de tel. Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:17:35 -0700 Message-ID: <002001bf1aa1$45ebc780$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0.1c2e8f0d.253e4ea0@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"YztPg.0.Re.IQI3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Your name is Miguel, not Manuel... | -----Original Message----- | From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] | Sent: Tuesday 19 October 1999 3:46 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. | | | am going to give you a call later ...........:)........manuel | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 22:58:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA11900; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:58:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:58:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.1c2e8f0d.253e4ea0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:53:24 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: novo numero de tel. Resent-Message-ID: <"Z6KuW2.0.cZ2.6vI3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No, it means "how can you people be so lame as to make a thread out of this? Enough already!" And if the dog ate your logo, you'll just have to have a new one designed, I guess.... >In a message dated 10/19/99 7:31:04 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, >j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net writes: > ><< Pois nao! Nao e ruim. Tudo o mundo pode cometer um erro. > > Ate logo, > >> > >im sorry, but does the above mean.........julio, you can be my friend and im >am going to give you a call later ...........:)........manuel From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 19 23:03:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13259; Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:03:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:03:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <010c01bf1a9e$dd5e4140$7e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:59:35 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Resent-Message-ID: <"iFqN9.0.uu2.y-I3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's the truth, I've got a 1/4 million volt Tesla coil and you can grab onto it; your hair may stick out, but the amperage is nil. Also, the one-hand-in-pocket is an old but wise tactic for handling the really dangerous stuff. Explaination: you avoid catching an arc from each hand & over the heart.... >It's not the volts that'll kill ya, it's the amps. > >Be careful. Rubber-soled shoes please! > >- Larry >>> Kim Flint wrote- >>> I'm an electronics engineer, don't know anything about that high voltage >>> stuff. Try not to touch the wires....hope that helps. >> >> >>Or if ya do touch 'em, just use one hand! >> >>Seriously, my sweetie's uncle was a high-voltage guy; he worked on wiring >>the big dams back in the 40's. Under emergency circumstances, he would >make >>repairs on live million-volt circuits -- with one hand in his pocket. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 06:27:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11338; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:27:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:27:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <010c01bf1a9e$dd5e4140$7e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:25:05 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Resent-Message-ID: <"5SgqS1.0.4L2.zQP3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >It's not the volts that'll kill ya, it's the amps. Never heard someone playing through a volt. Probably sounds less warm since its not killing. ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 08:21:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31998; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:21:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:21:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380D6BE9.7A6B03EE@gis.net> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 08:14:55 +0100 From: Paul Sullivan Reply-To: paulsull@gis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Two looping questions from a neophyte References: <37FC67CD.645FF3FC@gis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9HZtG.0.2V7.b8R3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Is there a way to continuously loop from one delay to another? I loop on > a Boomerang,and then sample a segment of that loop with a Headrush. After > > overdubbing on top of that segment I want to be able send it back to be > overdubbed on the boomerang, then grab another segment with the Headrush, > and so on. Without > using two A/B boxes is there anyway to do this? > > Neither of my delays is tunable. What is the best way to be able to > speed up or slow down a loop? Perhaps a pitch shifter after the delays? > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks very much, Paul Sullivan. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 09:22:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13067; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:22:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:22:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: alex@cliff.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <010c01bf1a9e$dd5e4140$7e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:11:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Resent-Message-ID: <"q1Ie8.0.-h2.q_R3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 3:25 AM -0700 10/20/99, Matthias Grob wrote: >>It's not the volts that'll kill ya, it's the amps. > >Never heard someone playing through a volt. Let alone looping through one, that would be... revolting. (sorry, I've been up all night doing what used to be called audio engineering, but has now become data file management) -Alex S. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 10:28:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27766; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:28:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:28:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.4812d709.253f2481@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:58:25 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"teeSw3.0.YH5.GhS3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey, paul: > > Is there a way to continuously loop from one delay to another? I loop on > > a Boomerang,and then sample a segment of that loop with a Headrush. After > > > > overdubbing on top of that segment I want to be able send it back to be > > overdubbed on the boomerang, then grab another segment with the Headrush, > > and so on. Without > > using two A/B boxes is there anyway to do this? i regularly do this kinda exchange between a pcm42 & an edp, though its a bit kludgey & requires the use of hands; also, a slightly modified rane sm82 mixer is involved in the process: the edp & pcm42 are fed by (pre-fader) effects-sends, so when i wanna share/modify material tween the 2 devices, i merely turn up the appropriate send to the target-unit. > > Neither of my delays is tunable. What is the best way to be able to > > speed up or slow down a loop? Perhaps a pitch shifter after the delays? actually, those're 2 separate questions, methinks: 1) ifya wanna *re-tune* yer loop, any (probably polyphonically capable) pitch-shifter will do, though: they all sound different. 2) ifya wanna *speed-up/slow-down* yer loops (in 'real-time', or approximately), ya may hafta git yerself either some kinda modulateable delay, or a realtime-sampler (like jhno's Looper1.5, for MACintosh, web-available); also, software like arboretum systems' HyperEngine has a wonderful 'real-time' 'vari-speed' function. (see also NI Reaktor, for MAC/PC). but: a Q: fer y'all: anybody have other paths to these particular ends? more practical/economical? best regards, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 11:08:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06037; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:08:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:08:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Hoover Alan To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:30:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"02dls.0.n17.r8T3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >-----Original Message----- >From: L Tremblay [mailto:ltct@concentric.net] >Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 9:00 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring >It's not the volts that'll kill ya, it's the amps. >Be careful. Rubber-soled shoes please! >- Larry This is a dangerous statement that I hear from time-to-time. While it is true that current passing through the heart is what usually causes electrocution, keep one thing in mind: It is the voltage that causes the current to "flow". The higher the voltage, the more current that flows. Zero voltage produces zero current. High voltage produces high current. If there is something close to 120 volts ac on your guitar amplifier chassis and on your guitar strings (with respect to earth ground), and you touch your strings with one hand and something connected to ground with the other, you will likely get a dangerous electric shock, possibly fatal. It's the volts that produce the amps that'll kill ya. Alan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 11:10:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06458; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:10:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:10:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:56:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf1b0b$5380bf80$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"NUoNi3.0.wy.UaT3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK, now we're talking about http://www.ingava.com/reviews/pc/revolt/index.htm , so lay off. | -----Original Message----- | From: Alex Stahl [mailto:alex@pixar.com] | Sent: Wednesday 20 October 1999 6:11 AM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring | | >Never heard someone playing through a volt. | | Let alone looping through one, that would be... revolting. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 11:10:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06597; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:10:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:10:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Hoover Alan To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:48:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"9ITd9.0.7A.ePT3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com LET'S CLEAR THIS UP BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT: Tesla coils typically have very high internal resistance, like TV high voltage transformers. Their voltage is high with no load. As soon as they are connected to a load resistance (your body), the output voltage drops to a very low level, because the current is limited by this very high internal resistance. Only 1 to 5 milliamperes actually flow through the body, because the voltage drops to a much lower level. It takes about 10 times this much current to cause heart fibrillation due to disrupting nerve conduction. The ac power line, on the other hand, has VERY LOW internal resistance. If you touch a quarter of a million volt power line, even with one hand, current will conduct through you, right through your shoes, through the earth, back to the generator. You will likely die in seconds, unless you are wearing VERY THICK RUBBER boots or shoes having no holes or cracks where moisture exists. The power line voltage doesn't drop at all, because the generator has for all practical purposes zero internal resistance. Your body might even cook rapidly if the current is high enough to boil your electrolytes. People who work on these high voltages for a living use special techniques and equipment to insulate themselves to a high degree. Don't even think of playing with the power grid, even with one hand in your pocket. Alan -----Original Message----- From: David Myers [mailto:dmgraph@pulsewidth.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 11:00 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring It's the truth, I've got a 1/4 million volt Tesla coil and you can grab onto it; your hair may stick out, but the amperage is nil. Also, the one-hand-in-pocket is an old but wise tactic for handling the really dangerous stuff. Explaination: you avoid catching an arc from each hand & over the heart.... >It's not the volts that'll kill ya, it's the amps. > >Be careful. Rubber-soled shoes please! > >- Larry >>> Kim Flint wrote- >>> I'm an electronics engineer, don't know anything about that high voltage >>> stuff. Try not to touch the wires....hope that helps. >> >> >>Or if ya do touch 'em, just use one hand! >> >>Seriously, my sweetie's uncle was a high-voltage guy; he worked on wiring >>the big dams back in the 40's. Under emergency circumstances, he would >make >>repairs on live million-volt circuits -- with one hand in his pocket. 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------ =_NextPart_001_01BF1B0C.66E83DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 12:23:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26860; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:23:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:23:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380DF55C.6BFF801C@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:01:16 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Texture444@aol.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte References: <0.4812d709.253f2481@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NmABf1.0.Gy5.EfU3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Texture444@aol.com wrote: > a Q: fer y'all: > anybody have other paths to these particular ends? more practical/economical? > best regards, > dt for loop to loop exchange not very cheap but the switchblade is _the_ box for reconfiguring your efx rack on the fly http://www.soundsculpture.com Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 13:10:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06050; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:10:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:10:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <03b401bf1b19$9ee76380$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:39:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"eis722.0.gU7.C1V3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >not very cheap but the switchblade is _the_ box for reconfiguring your >efx rack on the fly Please describe the switchblade. Webpages? Thanks! Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 13:10:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06070; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:10:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:10:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:42:38 -0600 From: gisjef@coagis.cabq.gov (jason fink - 3943 SUN Workstation) Message-Id: <199910201542.JAA16344@agsws1.cabq.gov> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Introduction & Headrush Question X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"OdN-w3.0.T44.KFU3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings Loopers, I am new to the list... stumbling upon it while searching for information on the Akai Headrush. By way of introduction; I am 35,live in Albuquerque New Mexico, and until the recent departure of my drummer played in a sloppy punk band under the moniker "dimbulb" ( http://www.unm.edu/~cornflak ). While I havent really been a looper, I became interested in the Headrush pedal after seeing it in action during a performance by Don Caballero (both Bass & guitar were using them). I was so impressed with the band, and with the pedals that I purchased one. I have been playing with it for a coupla days now and having alot of fun with both the tape echo mode and the loop mode. With my band in limbo I find that looping may hold great promise in my music-making at home. At this moment I am listening to the Looper CD via real-audio, its great and has made it to my "must purchase soon" list. With regard to the Headrush, I am having a little difficulty during the looping function. If I get a riff going, the looper seems to have a pause before the repeat begins. I am not sure if it is a function of MY timing when I hit the switchs, or if the box is just screwing with the timing. As it is now, I get a loop going, then pause to adapt any further playing to the new beat of the loop. Does that make any sense? Can anyone advise a fledgling looper on making the most out of this stomp box? Thanks, -jas Albuquerque gisjef@coagis.cabq.gov From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 13:18:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07917; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:18:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:18:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.375bd406.253f4f17@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:00:07 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"ff329.0.es.ULV3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com claude, >for loop to loop exchange >not very cheap but the switchblade is _the_ box for >reconfiguring your efx rack on the fly >http://www.soundsculpture.com thanks for that. unfortunately, the switchblade is anti-tactile (unless ya add midi/voltage faders, eh?): no knobs, no sliders: so, ce n'est pas pour moi! best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 13:28:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11098; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:28:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:28:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.3b4a21a3.253f51c7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:11:35 EDT Subject: Re: Home Electrical Wiring To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"V4eZe.0.nZ1.2WV3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << Don't even think of playing with the power grid, even with one hand in your pocket. Alan >> right arm! Alan. Some real sense of the questioner's dilemma. 1st) The reversed polarity outlets are a likely place to get a shock with your gear. So, get those fixed TODAY. 2nd) The 3-prong outlets need checked to see if there is a ground wire connected to the ground terminal of the receptacle or not. If not, get that fixed. 3rd) Knob & Tube was and is good safe wiring. Problems occur, however, when modern 3-wire conductors and old knob & tube (2-wire) are mixed on the same circuit(s). The floating neutral of the old stuff can become severely overloaded--a fire hazard. 4th) The highest voltage I ever worked was 34,500 volts distribution power. Perfectly safe if all the precautions are taken and the right gear is used. 5th) The only time I nearly got electrocuted was when assembling the buss bars inside a large 440v. 3-phase switchgear cabinet (about the size of a normal bedroom). I had my safety padlock on the main, but a young electrical engineer decided he needed to show a group of state senators how the facility looked. He wanted to turn on some overhead lights. (Engineers had master keys for everything in those days.) He didn't check with anyone, he just unlocked my padlock and turned it all on. Well I was sweating (July in Iowa) just pushing a 90 pound solid slab of copper buss in place when the power came on. I was absolutely locked up and could not move, I couldn't even take a breath and my heart was stopped completely, since the 440 volts was going from arm-to-arm for almost a full minute. Finally, an apprentice I was working with, ran up and turned it off when he realized what was happening. He punched out the EE too later, I heard! Good lad. I had minor burns on both arms where they were touching the buss bars. I felt very strange for several days. But, I got six months off with pay and the young EE got fired! And no one could ever unlock anybody else's safety lock after that. At least at that facility. 6th) The problem with 120 volts is that usually doesn't have enough strength to stop your heart, just enough to cause erractic fibrillations which will kill you in 5 minutes or so. A heart de-fibrillator like medics use operates on between 300 and 500 volts, I believe. But a dead short circuit on even a 120 volt 20 amp circuit has about the same amount of available power as a locomotive engine going 60 miles an hour--if only for a fraction of a second. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to get hit by such a thing (again), even if it was only for a few microseconds. Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 13:31:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12091; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:31:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:31:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910201714.KAA24084@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:14:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-fFP-2.0.Do1.gYV3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For most people all you need to know is that it costs around $1725 factory direct. If you're still curious, check http://www.soundsculpture.com/ TH ---------- >From: "Dennis W. Leas" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >Date: Wed, Oct 20, 1999, 11:39 AM > >>not very cheap but the switchblade is _the_ box for reconfiguring your >>efx rack on the fly > > Please describe the switchblade. Webpages? > > Thanks! > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 13:56:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18365; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:56:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:56:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:42:58 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <199910201714.KAA24084@scv3.apple.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"pf6B8.0.JQ3.2vV3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From good old H-C: GCX switcher with foot controller Asking Price: US$300 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Switcher with midi foot controller. Easy and fun to use. Buyer pays shipping. Thanks! Seller: Robert Williams, E-mail: jazzaplaza@aol.com (Profile) Location: NASHVILLE, TN Distance: 1945 miles Post Date: 10/20/99 -----Original Message----- From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:hartne.t@apple.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 10:14 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte For most people all you need to know is that it costs around $1725 factory direct. If you're still curious, check http://www.soundsculpture.com/ TH ---------- >From: "Dennis W. Leas" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >Date: Wed, Oct 20, 1999, 11:39 AM > >>not very cheap but the switchblade is _the_ box for reconfiguring your >>efx rack on the fly > > Please describe the switchblade. Webpages? > > Thanks! > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 14:43:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA31376; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:43:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:43:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380E0735.FB3A7F30@clubhouseinc.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:17:28 -0400 From: Daniel Goodwin Reply-To: clubswami@clubhouseinc.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question References: <199910201542.JAA16344@agsws1.cabq.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YgQCF.0.OC6.hXW3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello... I have the Headrush, and have no problem with pauses....but I do believe that pinpoint operation is necessary....You do have to be on with your button pushing Daniel Goodwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 15:52:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17674; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:52:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:52:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910201932.MAA21470@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:32:37 -0500 Subject: FS: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kc5442.0.B-2.sZX3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Time Machine" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181386096 PMC 10: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=184123429 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 15:55:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18882; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:55:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:55:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 12:20:33 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Texture444@aol.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id PAA10587 Resent-Message-ID: <"7vr0y3.0.3d2.rTX3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dt writes... > i regularly do this kinda exchange between a pcm42 & an edp, though its a bit kludgey & requires the use of hands; also, a slightly modified rane sm82 mixer is involved in the process: the edp & pcm42 are fed by (pre-fader) effects-sends, so when i wanna share/modify material between the 2 devices, i merely turn up the appropriate send to the target-unit. Hi David... So is the SM82 mod the pre-fader fx send? Is this in your live rack? Are you still using the Ashley mixer as well? And finally... What are your stereoizing fx used on the loopers? > a Q: fer y'all: anybody have other paths to these particular ends? more practical/economical? best regards, dt I saw your response on the Switchblade... don't you use a Peavey PC1600 for midi fader moves? The Blade could really integrate well with something like that and an extension footswitch or expression pedal. (although the price IS daunting...) I do the same thing for feeding loopers... reach over and turn up an aux send. All my loopers come back to channel strips instead of aux returns. I just need that pre fader send option. best... -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 15:58:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19313; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:58:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:58:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910201943.PAA21336@home.HoundsOfHeaven.com> X-Sender: kevincc@houndsofheaven.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:43:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Subject: Re: FS: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) In-Reply-To: <199910201932.MAA21470@scv3.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"VXz2T2.0.tr3.skX3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just so you know, this PMC10 does not have the remote controller (and is hence non-programmable (or so says Digitech). End public service announcement Kevin > >PMC 10: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=184123429 > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 16:03:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20762; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:03:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:03:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005301bf1b34$6bfcc440$d84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:50:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZzqaG1.0.AE4.GpX3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Plus it'll cost you $1725.00 *factory direct*. Tad pricey... regards - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Texture444@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 1:30 PM Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >claude, >>for loop to loop exchange >>not very cheap but the switchblade is _the_ box for >>reconfiguring your efx rack on the fly >>http://www.soundsculpture.com > >thanks for that. >unfortunately, the switchblade is anti-tactile (unless ya add midi/voltage faders, eh?): >no knobs, no sliders: >so, ce n'est pas pour moi! >best, >dt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 16:48:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00736; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:48:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:48:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009d01bf1b36$e9198150$d84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:08:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"jaMkr1.0.UP5.u3Y3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oh, thanks man. I was already bidding on it. Now ALL the vultures will be wheeling... ;) - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Travis Hartnett To: Looper's Delight Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:04 PM Subject: FS: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) >Time Machine" > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181386096 > > > >PMC 10: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=184123429 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 16:55:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02382; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:55:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:55:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991020202007.0141e894@pop> X-Sender: kflint@pop X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:20:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: FS: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"yFKms2.0.AO6.tHY3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 03:43 PM 10/20/99 -0400, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >Just so you know, this PMC10 does not have the remote controller (and is >hence non-programmable (or so says Digitech). Does digitech still sell the remote controllers? I know you could still buy them recently, because the same basic thing was used on other digitech gear. If not, it's a pretty simple device, wouldn't be too hard to make one. It's a good idea to have a spare anyway, cause the remotes tend to get flakey. (especially the dinky cable it uses.) That's the one thing about the PMC-10 I don't like...eventually I'm going to rebuild my remote controller to be more rugged. kim ___________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-845-6383 Manager, Board and System Design kflint@ati.com ATI Research http://www.ati.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 16:54:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02333; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:54:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:54:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: <0.bd36169a.253f7d62@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:17:38 EDT Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"NyExN3.0.s56.UEY3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I too have the headrush and have found no problems whatsoever with it. I got the headrush last friday to replace my jamman and zoom 508 and i luv it save for the fact that it has knobs. I like having my menu presets - patches per se' in a user bank i can just with the touch of the foot bring up...u dont do dat' with the headrush and u have knobs u have to twist and fiddle with or even worse mark off with a pen to recall cool settings...i hate that but can live with it for the price and functionality of a headrush. also the headrush is an akai product which is not going to be difficult to have replaced or serviced or go out of production anytime soon. the headrush is straight forward in its use and applications but for looping its a lot like a sampler - beat looper in that you have to start playing immediately when the rec option is selected. If u are doing something that is in a particular rhythm pattern, u have to consciously count it out - in time ie., a one bar loop would be initiated by counting one-two-three-four - AND ONE ---.....now here is the catch - ya gotta close out the loop on the "ONEcount - not the and one count but the One count" your loops will be accurate but it takes practice. you can have longer loops on the akai easilly just as long as u dont go over the alloted 11.9 secs for loop with overdub. The tape echo sim is neat and fairly accurate with the panning capabilities it gives you but u will need a mixer to get the full effect of having 4 or 5 outputs going at once and u can also have a lot of fun sending aux. sends from these outs to other f/x etc. JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 17:18:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08860; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:18:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:18:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991020134701.01436cd0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:47:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: FS: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19991020202007.0141e894@pop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"3glRj2.0.Em7.MbY3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I checked a little over a year ago - they don't have anymore. But they also said the controller for the Digitech DSP256 wouldn't work with the PMC10. I picked one up for $10 and it does work (but all the button lables are wrong). At any rate you can do most of the programming from some free windoze app. sean At 01:20 PM 10/20/99 -0700, Kim wrote: >Does digitech still sell the remote controllers? I know you could still buy >them recently, because the same basic thing was used on other digitech gear. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 18:01:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19704; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:01:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:01:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: <0.acc87724.253f8caa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:22:50 EDT Subject: Headrush Mod Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"ks4f3.0.xX2.vBZ3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Has anybody replaced the "hard click/ snap" buttons on the Headrush with something that is silent and more touch sensitive? If so - recommendation? Also, how involved would it be to add an input signal overload light to the Headrush? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 18:18:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22937; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:18:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:18:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <138FAF0D3722D311BAD00000F8093163227D4C@hdo-exchange.corporate.southam.ca> From: "Bailey, Jim" To: "'looppost'" Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:46:02 -0400 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <138FAF0D3722D311BAD00000F8093163227D4C@hdo-exchange.corporate.southam.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BF1B44.81557250" Resent-Message-ID: <"NdGQ9.0.p04.uXZ3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF1B44.81557250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > -----Original Message----- > From: Hoover Alan [mailto:HooverA@tce.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 10:48 AM > > Don't even think of playing with the power grid, even with > one hand in your pocket. 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I know you could still buy them recently, because the same basic thing was used on other digitech gear. I had a couple of the PMC-10 controllers and when Digitech said they "couldn't find" another one for me (a long time ago) one of their guys suggested the SR-7 (I believe) controller, and they sent me one which I used just fine for a long time until I re-discovered where I'd stashed my old flakey PMC-10 controllers. I took them both apart and used DeOxit on them both and they worked great! I've now managed to stash my other controllers somewhere else where I can't find the suckers... they'll turn up eventually, but now I have a second PMC-10 which I'd like a controller for... > If not, it's a pretty simple device, wouldn't be too hard to make one. It's a good idea to have a spare anyway, cause the remotes tend to get flakey. (especially the dinky cable it uses.) That's the one thing about the PMC-10 I don't like...eventually I'm going to rebuild my remote controller to be more rugged. It might be cool to actually use momentary stomp switches and make a rugged floor controller... Ah... maybe not, but it's a thought. Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 18:20:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23608; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:20:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:20:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991020214839.013cdb54@pop> X-Sender: kflint@pop X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:48:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question Resent-Message-ID: <"EaVal3.0.6F4.taZ3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 04:17 PM 10/20/99 EDT, Jprice01@aol.com wrote: >I got the headrush last friday to replace my jamman and zoom 508 >and i luv it save for the fact that it has knobs. If I may ask, why would you replace a jamman with a headrush? That seems like going backwards to me.... >also the headrush is an akai product which is not going to be >difficult to have replaced or serviced or go out of production >anytime soon. You mean like the Akai Remix 16, the cool dj oriented looper they released a few years ago? It seemed to vanish off the face of the earth for quite a while and now is in some sort of maybe-it-exists-maybe-it-doesn't status. It happens everywhere.... kim ___________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-845-6383 Manager, Board and System Design kflint@ati.com ATI Research http://www.ati.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 18:14:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22485; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:14:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:14:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:43:34 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Jprice01@aol.com Subject: Re: Headrush question and alternate loopers discussion... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id RAA16055 Resent-Message-ID: <"sSkIf1.0.gy3.WWZ3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > also the headrush is an akai product which is not going to be difficult to have replaced or serviced or go out of production anytime soon. hahahahahahahahaha... They're a big company all right... but so is Korg and they discontinued the DL8000R Delay AND the AM8000R multi-effect processor before they were even a year old. I've heard these used by a couple friends now with great results... Very good midi interface etc. Just very poorly received by the general public. They were actually reviewed very well by more than a couple magazines with the exception of the DL delay getting low marks for user i/f... This is fellow list member David Coffin's main looper and believe me... it's a looping beast! You can modulate the multi tap delays with various waveforms etc. 5 secs stereo / 10 secs mono. Each of the multi-taps is tempo assignable with various divisors allowing you to make clicks and pops jump into looping polyrythyms. It's one of the deepest tap tempo delays out there. And it's now going to be one of those relics which pop up in the odd rack from time to time just like the Digitech RDS series. Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 19:31:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07242; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:31:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:31:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380E48C8.49A67716@home.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:57:24 -0700 From: Neil Goldstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: FS: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay) References: <199910201932.MAA21470@scv3.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"i4G_52.0.TD.Dea3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Does that windows software to control the PMC10 work nicely? Sounds great on paper. (I'm on the Mac platform and tried to get it working in Softwindows but couldn't) Neil From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 19:43:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10296; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:43:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:43:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <380E3785.430B1544@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:43:33 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fruityloops References: <002201bf1831$9784f340$968a99d1@u01vj> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"aRjY82.0.jB1.qua3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've been using it a lot lately, it's great for trying out grooves quickly before working them out in more detail in the mpc2000. Thumbs up: the f/x section is excellent (esp. in the pro version), it'll take years for the slow poke copy cats at akai to come up with any near it. Also, it's a simple program to use - it doesn't take much time to get things groovy. Thumbs down: as far as i know, the resolution is liited to sixteenths and the only time signature is 4/4. Because of this, i don't use it for much more than "groove sketching". Rob Pete wrote: > > I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some > looping of small wave samples > > for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has used > this program for looping. > > If so what do you all think about it? > > Does it work for you? > > Have you found any major shortcomings? > > Thanks for any and all input- > > Pete From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 20:10:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16839; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:10:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:10:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: <0.84e69e86.253faef9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:49:13 EDT Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"1bmj73.0.Qy2.ZLb3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, I dont get no "gearis - gearus envy" in the loop area. At least not at the moment :-) I got a headrush because of #1 cost ($169 US Dollars - No tax ), effectiveness, size and simplicity. Those 4 things were main factors...& no, i disagree with you because its not necessarily going back...not at all & i'll try to explain why. BTW, the jamman was also touchy in certain applications which was probably more to do with the particular unit i had than with the state or quality of all jammen en masse. but with the headrush, its a pretty even keel where im at and from what i was using before with some exceptions i dont really get to boo-hooed over not having but with a sorta retro tape cartridge based sound to it i feel like im 12 again but not necessarily steppin back inside the "way-back" machine. also im of the opinion that the quality of any loop is in what the player puts inside or leaves out along with the quality of the gear to a certain degree but still with the musician being the main ingredient. Theres no doubt that the headrush has basic but not expanded flexibility in areas of loop - time, including the basic variations such as feedback, level and HF trim plus the head gap features. Now the jamman on the other hand was not maxed out in terms of memory - it was just out of da' box and never modified so i see it sorta as a lateral move with the headrush but not a step down in any way at all. also i got the jamman for free; cant beat that price. It was inherited from a musician friend who decided that he was going to go corporate and give up music. in regards to products coming and going, sure they all do but the demand for headrush's seems to be very high. & its very hard to find them here in philly cause they have been selling very fast it seems. also the manufacturer is one that has a product that can be supported or in the case of the headrush u could probably look at it in terms of price where it can be replaced easilly if necessary. if there ever is a problem with my headrush, i can count on finding an Akai e-1 in a pinch. also, chances are there will be lots of headrushes for quite while or so it seems to these eyes. & its a good fit for me. But in terms of MIDI syncing and or having more variation and control, clearly u dont and will not find that with a headrush - i dont and logically cant say the headrush is the answer to all things u would ever need to loop because it isnt. I'm just saying for me it fits perfectly for what i do and really need at the moment. I dont look to sync my textured loops and if i do its a sample of a loop that is worked chained together and or treated in acid or the sound forge 4.5 prg i have. for other stuff such as morphing like effects and more esoteric sounds or samples, they will come from my sp202 and or a combo of the gt-3 or gr-30 or ensoniq asr 10 and my trusty zoom 234 drum machine for the riddem'. Gotta say 11.9 secs or 23 seconds loop time is plenty for me & i dig the limitations too and was going to point out the limitations in my original post but kinda let slide. Its easy to get intuitive with the head rush and be a lot closer to making the loop ring - and once again the $169 price tag rings my bell and meets me smiling for what i get out of it :) Regards, JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 20:10:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16846; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:10:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:10:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAjoyDmjsCoBh6p41A74DqLqpHMxcCFAS+qXtH5laBwab81RzDU+x8yvkq From: wo-5100dogrules@webtv.net (Steven Bazar) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:50:05 -0500 (CDT) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: hello id like to subsribe to the list Message-ID: <13192-380E552D-1159@storefull-147.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"lxWNB1.0.qx2.JLb3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the adress being wo-5100dogrules@webtv.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 20:37:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22782; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:37:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:37:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002c01bf1b59$1b6e0e60$6f4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: fruityloops Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:13:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"cFLQt1.0.Z94.Nfb3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Rob - I agree... At first I thought the program was good in concept - get some loops together quickly, see what works, what doesn't, etc... Unfortunately, it seems geared to turntablists - to the extent that the beat resolution severely limits the range of things that can be done - fairlt simple things like 'track sliding', i.e. shifting a loop track incrementallly either forward or backward in time. (it *is* computer-based, so it should be simple to accomplish). Got bored and frustrated quickly, deleted it from my drive... To be fair, its not strickly a looping program despite its name - its main audience is MOD trackers. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Cummings To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 8:00 PM Subject: Re: fruityloops >I've been using it a lot lately, it's great for trying out grooves >quickly before working them out in more detail in the mpc2000. > >Thumbs up: the f/x section is excellent (esp. in the pro version), it'll >take years for the slow poke copy cats at akai to come up with any near >it. Also, it's a simple program to use - it doesn't take much time to >get things groovy. > >Thumbs down: as far as i know, the resolution is liited to sixteenths >and the only time signature is 4/4. Because of this, i don't use it for >much more than "groove sketching". > >Rob > > >Pete wrote: >> >> I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some >> looping of small wave samples >> >> for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has used >> this program for looping. >> >> If so what do you all think about it? >> >> Does it work for you? >> >> Have you found any major shortcomings? >> >> Thanks for any and all input- >> >> Pete > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 22:03:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09425; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:03:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:03:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991020213113.007a6a00@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:31:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"vn2h52.0.4e.Arc3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Same here, and since the loopers come back to channel strips, y'can send one loop to the other looper at will. Just be sure to turn one aux send down before turning the other up, though, or you'll get a blast of nasty overload feedback when it goes back into the first device! Tim .>I do the same thing for feeding loopers... reach over and turn up an aux send. All my loopers come back to channel strips instead of aux returns. I just need that pre fader send option. > >best... >-Miko > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 20 22:26:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14391; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:26:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:26:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 19:09:08 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf1b69$42206ac0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001bf1b0b$5380bf80$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"1bZId3.0.YZ2.yMd3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i once heard that if you needed to toch something that could be dangerous as far as high voltage but were unsure- you could touch it with the forearm with your palm towards your face and the current would cause your arm to contract towards you and away from the source- That is about as off topic as you can get- PS- anyone who owns Core low cost binaurals mssg me off list- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 00:23:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09335; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:23:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:23:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021000435.007b29d0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:04:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring In-Reply-To: <000001bf1b69$42206ac0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> References: <000001bf1b0b$5380bf80$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"aQ2fr.0.B11.x4f3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Of course, a 99 cent continuity tester would be a little safer... You can check a 9v battery with your tongue, too, but when we're talking about high voltage, that's another story. I read somewhere once that when you shuffle your feet on a carpet and touch something, it requires thousands of volts (with hardly any amperage) just to make that little spark. And if you've ever gotten a shock from a car's electrical system you know the wallop a mere 12 volts can pack when it's got enough amps behind it... But again, static electricity is not wall current. Even those big capacitors inside our gear can hurt you whether or not you're plugged into the mains. Be careful! We don't want to lose any of you! Remember what happened to Keith Relf! Tim At 07:09 PM 10/20/99 -0700, you wrote: > >i once heard that if you needed to toch something that could be dangerous as >far as high voltage but were unsure- you could touch it with the forearm >with your palm towards your face and the current would cause your arm to >contract towards you and away from the source- >Cliff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 01:30:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24649; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:30:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:30:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00fb01bf1b82$9708ad90$6f4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: WTB: VSO to sync 2 Revox A-77's Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:10:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"cO4_81.0.f45.Q_f3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm looking for a (preferably) used variable-speed oscillator to sync 2 Revox A-77s. Anyone got an idea where I can find one of these things? I know that Ampex makes one (the VS-20) but they want over $800 new. And the old Ampex VS-10s are $1200...Geeeez. Thanks, - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 03:27:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13732; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:27:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:27:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991021072303.0071f640@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:23:03 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: fruityloops Resent-Message-ID: <"mK_Bn1.0.R53.fzh3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I disagree! ;) I'm not payed by the author of the program... but I assure you that you can get really great sounding results of it... try a little more... and if you want I can send you a little MP3 demo... Clearly, forget the FL examples, they're pure shit... but I'm working a lot with it and getting really "liquid" and "non-mechanical at all" grooves (well... when I want mechanical grooves I know how to get it from FL too!). I'm sure a lot of this work would be liked from the prog-Fripp-loopin-thing people here too! ;) sorry guys.... ciao leo PS and if I have understood your mail, FL does allows istant pattern shifting... try with Shift with left/right arrows. At 20.13 20/10/99 -0400, you wrote: >Rob - I agree... > >At first I thought the program was good in concept - get some loops >together quickly, see what works, what doesn't, etc... > >Unfortunately, it seems geared to turntablists - to the extent >that the beat resolution severely limits the range of things >that can be done - fairlt simple things like 'track sliding', >i.e. shifting a loop track incrementallly either forward or >backward in time. (it *is* computer-based, so it should be >simple to accomplish). > >Got bored and frustrated quickly, deleted it from my drive... >To be fair, its not strickly a looping program despite its >name - its main audience is MOD trackers. > >- Larry > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Cummings >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 8:00 PM >Subject: Re: fruityloops > > >>I've been using it a lot lately, it's great for trying out grooves >>quickly before working them out in more detail in the mpc2000. >> >>Thumbs up: the f/x section is excellent (esp. in the pro version), it'll >>take years for the slow poke copy cats at akai to come up with any near >>it. Also, it's a simple program to use - it doesn't take much time to >>get things groovy. >> >>Thumbs down: as far as i know, the resolution is liited to sixteenths >>and the only time signature is 4/4. Because of this, i don't use it for >>much more than "groove sketching". >> >>Rob >> >> >>Pete wrote: >>> >>> I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some >>> looping of small wave samples >>> >>> for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has >used >>> this program for looping. >>> >>> If so what do you all think about it? >>> >>> Does it work for you? >>> >>> Have you found any major shortcomings? >>> >>> Thanks for any and all input- >>> >>> Pete >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 03:27:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13753; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:27:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:27:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991021072302.00716a44@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:23:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: fruityloops Resent-Message-ID: <"k_5CE.0.p53.izh3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com wrong! ;) in the latest FL Pro versions you can set the grid resolution up to 64 steps (for 4 pattern measures... or 64th notes bar, multiplying X 4 BPM tempo) and you can set the pattern lenght in the range 8-64 steps. Quite flexible I think... :) if you scratch the surface, you can get really professional sounding results from it.. I'm using it a lot, along my samplers and a tons of other softwares, to program the material for an upcoming "groove oriented" sample CD for a weeeeell known software house... ;) ciao leo >Thumbs down: as far as i know, the resolution is liited to sixteenths >and the only time signature is 4/4. Because of this, i don't use it for >much more than "groove sketching". > >Rob > > >Pete wrote: >> >> I have been using a program called fruityloops for drum loops, and some >> looping of small wave samples >> >> for about a month or so. I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has used >> this program for looping. >> >> If so what do you all think about it? >> >> Does it work for you? >> >> Have you found any major shortcomings? >> >> Thanks for any and all input- >> >> Pete > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 03:54:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18714; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:54:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:54:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Audio Equipment Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:44:58 -0700 Message-ID: <001301bf1b98$2c610d00$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7089DA242CE0D111BE750020AFD36C74105B0B@ZIPPY> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"qnv3k2.0.RM4.lMi3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com So what, dude are you becoming a monk or something like that? -----Original Message----- From: Matt Blais [mailto:Matt@exotech.com] Sent: Wednesday 20 October 1999 8:04 AM Subject: FA: Audio Equipment Home Studio Liquidation Auction begins 10/20/99 4PM, ends 10/30/99 4PM For details, see http://www.ultranet.com/~mblais/eqtlist.htm ............................................. Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, 16MB, V5.0 (2) Oberheim EFC-7 Echoplex foot controller Event Electronics Layla PCI audio system Event Electronics EMP-1 Mic Preamp ... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 04:22:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23577; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:22:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:22:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 01:18:33 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Audio Equipment In-reply-to: <001301bf1b98$2c610d00$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <7089DA242CE0D111BE750020AFD36C74105B0B@ZIPPY> Resent-Message-ID: <"qXW36.0.hh5.Foi3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wonderin' that too. what sort of drama results in selling your entire studio? kim >So what, dude are you becoming a monk or something like that? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matt Blais [mailto:Matt@exotech.com] >Sent: Wednesday 20 October 1999 8:04 AM >Subject: FA: Audio Equipment > > >Home Studio Liquidation >Auction begins 10/20/99 4PM, ends 10/30/99 4PM >For details, see http://www.ultranet.com/~mblais/eqtlist.htm >............................................. >Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro, 16MB, V5.0 (2) >Oberheim EFC-7 Echoplex foot controller >Event Electronics Layla PCI audio system >Event Electronics EMP-1 Mic Preamp ... ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 04:53:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA28880; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:53:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:53:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <380ECFAD.E8E51D09@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:32:45 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: hello id like to subsribe to the list References: <13192-380E552D-1159@storefull-147.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JzN7a.0.8p6.gDj3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what a difficult word, you know that susbrice, dammit i mean subscrieb, sh*t! i'll never get this right ... :) i couldn't resist, Rob Steven Bazar wrote (header): > hello id like to subsribe to the list From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 05:01:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA30780; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:01:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:01:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <380ED397.396AC741@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:49:27 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fruityloops References: <2.2.32.19991021072302.00716a44@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lQc571.0.547.AIj3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i'm using version 1.4.0 pro - i couldn't find this feature there - was this added in a leter version? thanks for the info, rob leocavallo schrieb: > > in the latest FL Pro versions you can set the grid resolution up to 64 steps > (for 4 pattern measures... or 64th notes bar, multiplying X 4 BPM tempo) and > you can set the pattern lenght in the range 8-64 steps. Quite flexible I > think... :) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 04:53:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA28962; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:53:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:53:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <380ED1FB.3A17BD24@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:42:35 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT: Minidisc vs. DAT for portable References: <0.16888d20.253e240b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"tcHNg2.0.Xx6.zDj3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is not going to help you all too much but i can tell about my sony MD (mz-r30): the mic preamp only has two gain settings (high/ low). This is good enough for basic recordings but probably a little to coarse not for sensitive recordings. There also seems to be a lot of compression in the pre-amp, it's difficult to actually produce digital clipping. Sorry, i have no experience with dat equipment ... hth, rob Echopark99@aol.com wrote: > > Can anybody compare the mic pre-amps of their MD to those on the D7 or D8 > Sony DAT? > > thanks, > eric p > echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 05:40:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05432; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:40:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 05:40:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF1BB6.89242B30.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: VSO to sync 2 Revox A-77's Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:52:48 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mtXUU.0.ZN.Ggj3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com L Tremblay [SMTP:ltct@concentric.net] wrote, > I'm looking for a (preferably) used variable-speed oscillator > to sync 2 Revox A-77s. have you tried running them without syncing? I remember that in the old days, I just ran them like that, and without problems. If one of them should turn out to run a bit faster than the other, just put it on the right side to make it drag the tape. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 06:09:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA11087; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:09:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:09:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: Belewps Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:03:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <380ED397.396AC741@compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"lBDEn3.0.RR2.yIk3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a section cut & pasted from recent Adrian Belew interview at http://www.virtualguitarmagazine.com/ (actually, the whole interview is packed with gear stuff) Ok, here it is...the questions are obviously the interviewer's... ***** And you call your loops Belewps? Well, they are different. That's a funny little name we just jokingly have for them. It's sort of like Frippertronics or something. You know, I think it's funny. The difference with Belewps is that you can make chord changes and you can change the loop as you go. With any other loop that I know, they're not interactive, they're static. You start the loop and it stays that way. The real huge discovery for me with this looping thing that I'm doing is that I can cause it to change. How, exactly, are you using the Johnson [amp] to do this? Inside the Johnson amp I'm using one delay that's two seconds long. You have to change the length of the delay for the tempo that you want. The tempo I like a lot ends up being 1.84 instead of two full seconds. Then I have one of the parameter pedals (expression pedals) set so that when I put it down, it puts the last thing that I played into a hold pattern and flips it to the outside speakers. So the guitar is coming from the middle – what I'm actually playing – and the loop is coming from the outside. You have to turn the volume of the effect up, you have to put it into the hold pattern, but it's all linked to this one expression pedal. So with one foot movement, boom, you've got a loop.******* Interesting stuff.. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 06:20:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13323; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:20:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:20:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.574295af.25404094@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:10:28 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"L54uI.0.Xt2.5Rk3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com miko, > Hi David... So is the SM82 mod the pre-fader fx send? yeah. and the 'pan' control has been swapped out for a nother pre-fader effects send. > Is this in your live rack? yup. > Are you still using the Ashley mixer as well? sometimes, not so often; though i do think it sounds better (& its certainly mo flexible), unfortunately it takes up 3 rackspaces. >And finally... What are your stereoizing fx used on the loopers? a lexicon pcm 80. occasionally, a waldorf (tabletop) filter. > > a Q: fer y'all: anybody have other paths to these particular ends? more practical/economical? best regards, dt > I saw your response on the Switchblade... don't you use a Peavey PC1600 for midi fader moves? not very often ::: in the past, i've mainly used that thing to trigger (a very few) samples. > I do the same thing for feeding loopers... reach over and turn up an aux send. All my loopers come back to channel strips instead of aux returns. > I just need that pre fader send option. tendsta keep my hands offa that damned gtr-thang, yeah?!? 8-) dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 06:19:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA13303; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:19:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:19:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.d8e0b92f.25404182@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:14:26 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"LHZjG2.0.J03.AVk3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com tim, > Just be sure to turn one aux send > down before turning the other up, though, or you'll get a blast of nasty > overload feedback when it goes back into the first device! what fun, eh? dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 06:28:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15251; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:28:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:28:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380EF52C.A115005F@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:12:44 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Time Machine, PMC 10 (ebay)Warning References: <009d01bf1b36$e9198150$d84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"IxhCx2.0.yT3.Rck3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com there is _no_ programmer and there is no way to use it without a programmer Claude > > > >PMC 10: > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=184123429 > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 06:28:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15265; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:28:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:28:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991021100502.006f12f8@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:05:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: fruityloops Resent-Message-ID: <"BtXWr.0._W2.hLk3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi Rob 1.7.6 is the latest version. it has all the features that I mentioned PLUS a lot more... internal synth, compatibility with other synthesis software patches, VST plugins support on 5 different FX send (to process each track indipendently), MP3 rendering, etc. hope this helps ciao leo At 10.49 21/10/99 +0200, you wrote: >i'm using version 1.4.0 pro - i couldn't find this feature there - was >this added in a leter version? > >thanks for the info, >rob > > >leocavallo schrieb: >> >> in the latest FL Pro versions you can set the grid resolution up to 64 steps >> (for 4 pattern measures... or 64th notes bar, multiplying X 4 BPM tempo) and >> you can set the pattern lenght in the range 8-64 steps. Quite flexible I >> think... :) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 06:52:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19869; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:52:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:52:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021064339.007ae200@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:43:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte In-Reply-To: <0.d8e0b92f.25404182@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"xs3VE2.0.oR4.Mxk3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It surely be. So, does the "replace the panpot with another send" mod leave the channel mono (to be later stereoized with the pcm80) or what? How's that work? And how do you amplify your oud? Tim At 06:14 AM 10/21/99 EDT, you wrote: >> Just be sure to turn one aux send >> down before turning the other up, though, or you'll get a blast of nasty >> overload feedback when it goes back into the first device! >what fun, eh? >dt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 07:02:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21324; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:02:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:02:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991021105830.26624.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 03:58:30 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Belewps To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"2HkG12.0.dz4.P6l3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FYI I seem to recall reading that the Johnson amps have a built in Digitech 2112. What Mr. Belew describes is just scratching the surface. ALSO The news at Harmony Central says that T.C. Electronics is coming out with a new delay box. No price was given. The brief description reminded me of the Korg DL-8000. Good day all! John --- Future Perfect wrote: > This is a section cut & pasted from recent Adrian > Belew interview at > http://www.virtualguitarmagazine.com/ > (actually, the whole interview is packed with gear > stuff) > > Ok, here it is...the questions are obviously the > interviewer's... > > ***** > And you call your loops Belewps? > > Well, they are different. That's a funny little > name we just jokingly have > for them. It's sort of like Frippertronics or > something. You know, I think > it's funny. The difference with Belewps is that you > can make chord changes > and you can change the loop as you go. With any > other loop that I know, > they're not interactive, they're static. You start > the loop and it stays > that way. The real huge discovery for me with this > looping thing that I'm > doing is that I can cause it to change. > > How, exactly, are you using the Johnson [amp] to do > this? > > Inside the Johnson amp I'm using one delay that's > two seconds long. You > have to change the length of the delay for the tempo > that you want. The > tempo I like a lot ends up being 1.84 instead of two > full seconds. Then I > have one of the parameter pedals (expression pedals) > set so that when I put > it down, it puts the last thing that I played into a > hold pattern and flips > it to the outside speakers. So the guitar is coming > from the middle – what > I'm actually playing – and the loop is coming from > the outside. You have to > turn the volume of the effect up, you have to put it > into the hold pattern, > but it's all linked to this one expression pedal. > So with one foot > movement, boom, you've got a loop.******* > Interesting stuff.. > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > 'Future Perfect' - art music > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 08:56:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10161; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:56:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:56:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991021083640.00969a70@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:38:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring In-Reply-To: <138FAF0D3722D311BAD00000F8093163227D4C@hdo-exchange.corpor ate.southam.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_595054==_" Resent-Message-ID: <"aWXhX3.0.NX1.Gcm3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --=====================_595054==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed What is this file that was attached to you mail to loopers mailing list? 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I had the pleasure of seeing Mr. Belew play in Nashville, and he did some great stuff with his "Belewps." They were all short little loops of himself, but his way of using them was pretty spectacular. Jeff Mc. __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 10:05:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25299; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:05:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:05:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7089DA242CE0D111BE750020AFD36C74105B21@ZIPPY> From: Matt Blais To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Audio Equipment Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:44:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"yvYws2.0.cz4.XZn3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I was wonderin' that too. what sort of drama results in > selling your entire > studio? > > kim > > >So what, dude are you becoming a monk or something like that? Heh - you guys are too much! :) Not a monk - just getting out of the electronic end of the music thing... it's just not doing it for me anymore. Still drumming, tho'. And I'm keeping my DAT. There's been a lot of changes going on in my life recently... long story. But nobody died, and my girlfriend didn't dump me (sorry to disappoint all you drama-junkies out there). Peace, -- Matthew __________________________________________________ ---------Healing and Spiritual Crisis--------- http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/blais.html --------Yummage Unlimited!-------- http://www.yummage.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 11:54:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19663; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:54:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:54:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00e101bf1bdc$8e004280$db71d6d1@micronjenni> From: "Jenni Leeds" To: , References: <199910210941.FAA06182@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Audio Equipment Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:54:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"jkR9e2.0.cO4._Mp3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Pre-Millenial freak out, y2k phobia, sell all your gear and head for the mountains.........! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 4:41 AM Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #406 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 11:42:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16221; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:42:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:42:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021112702.007ac400@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:27:02 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: trans-trem (way off topic!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"i4zMe1.0.u13.i4p3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sorry for the o.t. post, but methinks there's a lot of t-trem users on this list... anybody have any advice on setting up a trans-trem? is there any resource out there on how to do this? mine doesn't seem to be transposing uniformly and i've got a lot to learn about these thingies. private replies appreciated so's not to clutter the voltage thread. ;^) thanks. murks ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 12:19:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26651; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:19:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:19:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007501bf1bde$e6a3d710$a44badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: VSO to sync 2 Revox A-77's Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:11:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ay63O1.0.Ho5.4hp3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks,. I'l try that. At least they're identical models and should be pretty close. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 5:45 AM Subject: AW: VSO to sync 2 Revox A-77's >L Tremblay [SMTP:ltct@concentric.net] wrote, > >> I'm looking for a (preferably) used variable-speed oscillator >> to sync 2 Revox A-77s. > >have you tried running them without syncing? I remember that in the old >days, I just ran them like that, and without problems. If one of them >should turn out to run a bit faster than the other, just put it on the >right side to make it drag the tape. > > >* Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com >* escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music >* hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors >* http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 12:44:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00929; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:44:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:44:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991021163155.56265.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [129.64.25.99] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: CD-RW Burner for Mac Laptop Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:31:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"vK3Zt3.0.gQ7.01q3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm going to purchase a CD-RW burner. I'm using a 400Mhz Powerbook G3, I'm assuming that because this is a laptop I'll have to get a USB interfaced burner. I'm new to the CD-Burner realm, any suggestions? Please keep the answers mac oriented. Thanks, Sean ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 13:17:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09458; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:17:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:17:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012201bf1be7$2e448120$392310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "jason fink - 3943 SUN Workstation" , Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:58:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Cumtg3.0.qu1.0aq3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jason Fink wrote: > With regard to the Headrush, I am having a little difficulty > during the looping function. If I get a riff going, the looper > seems to have a pause before the repeat begins. I am not sure if > it is a function of MY timing when I hit the switchs, or if the > box is just screwing with the timing. As it is now, I get a loop > going, then pause to adapt any further playing to the new beat of > the loop. Does that make any sense? > > Can anyone advise a fledgling looper on making the most out of this > stomp box? It's interesting that using the Headrush , or any real-time "start-stop" looping device really hones our rhythmic skills and alerts us to our rhythmic inadequecies. The trick is to get your rhythm happening in advance, and percieve the seam of the loop as the first beat of the repetition. For example, if I were to create a two-measure loop, I would begin counting to myself "1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4," etc. Then when I felt ready, I'd go "STOMP (starting the loop), 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, STOMP (ending/looping the loop)". If my timing is good, the rhythm will be seamless. If I pause the tiniest bit, there will be a pause in the loop. More commonly, it is human nature to speed up while playing (even over two measures) so that the beginning of the loop will be slower than the end, creating a herky-jerky jolt at the loop seam. Hang with your metronome, relax, and focus on your breathing, and you will honor the groove, and know where the One is. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 13:31:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13322; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:31:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:31:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:09:28 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Texture444@aol.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id NAA09819 Resent-Message-ID: <"m3msd3.0.gP2.piq3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> Hi David... So is the SM82 mod the pre-fader fx send? > yeah. and the 'pan' control has been swapped out for a nother pre-fader effects send. Gotta look inside my mixer and see if sacrificing a pan pot is feasable... nice idea. >> And finally... What are your stereoizing fx used on the loopers? > a lexicon pcm 80. occasionally, a waldorf (tabletop) filter. Whatabout the FireworX? Where does that go? (I've gotta give my lonely 4-pole a little more attention!... I'm talking filters here gang! 8-)) > tendsta keep my hands offa that damned gtr-thang, yeah?!? 8-) dt More string time exactly! I use a Boss GT-5 and have found it's 1.8 secs to be extremely loopable... Sometimes I just leave the EDP and rack at home and have a blast with the GT-5 and a fuzz or two... Is there anyone out there who might know the feasability of expanding the GT-5 delay time? 4 secs or more would be amazing for a standalone all-in-one processor... Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 13:56:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19406; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:56:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:56:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D776@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Boomerang use Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:33:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"_5Qqb.0.1N3.Xwq3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I have an mp3 of a song I recorded where I used a boomerang. The boomerang plays throughout the song and no keyboards or synth's were used. Just guitar,bass and drum programs. If anyone is interested in taking a listen, you can get it at: http://www.dtguitar.com on the free mp3 page. It's called "begin.mp3" . Let me know what you think. I will try to get it into streaming format so the download won't be as long. Thanks Denis Denis Taaffe dneis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 16:19:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23572; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:19:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:19:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <380F2EF0.717B0620@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:19:12 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fruityloops References: <2.2.32.19991021100502.006f12f8@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ll3BU2.0.c05.8Bt3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It looks like i'm out of touch with the fruit loops thing ... thanks for the details Leo! What other software are you using these days? Rob leocavallo schrieb: > > > hi Rob > > 1.7.6 is the latest version. it has all the features that I mentioned PLUS a > lot more... internal synth, compatibility with other synthesis software > patches, VST plugins support on 5 different FX send (to process each track > indipendently), MP3 rendering, etc. > > hope this helps > ciao > leo > > At 10.49 21/10/99 +0200, you wrote: > >i'm using version 1.4.0 pro - i couldn't find this feature there - was > >this added in a leter version? > > > >thanks for the info, > >rob > > > > > >leocavallo schrieb: > >> > >> in the latest FL Pro versions you can set the grid resolution up to 64 steps > >> (for 4 pattern measures... or 64th notes bar, multiplying X 4 BPM tempo) and > >> you can set the pattern lenght in the range 8-64 steps. Quite flexible I > >> think... :) > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 16:51:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31479; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:51:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:51:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a7fc1db3.2540d53b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:44:43 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"Lxdwn1.0.XL7.kjt3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mike Biffle wrote: "Is there anyone out there who might know the feasability of expanding the GT-5 delay time? 4 secs or more would be amazing for a standalone all-in-one processor..." Hey, Mike, you should run right out and grab one of them thar $95 Zoom 2100s if you want an amazing looper/processor all in one. If your gt-5 has an effects loop, just hang it off that and away you go. 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------=_NextPart_000_011F_01BE5DBA.4DCF8B20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 17:13:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05369; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:13:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:13:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021140611.01441180@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:06:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: remove In-Reply-To: <012201be5dfd$5d6baf80$ed240d3f@eracehomebase> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"X7xtF.0.8V.Ezt3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com jump At 04:50 PM 2/21/99 -0800, "nitesh patel" < wrote: >>>> Arialremove <<<<<<<< From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 17:17:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06139; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:17:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:17:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BF1C1A.2D379CD0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: remove Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:15:00 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"08FTb.0.V91.e6u3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > jump ROFL! -M From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 17:47:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13525; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:47:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:47:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.e6dacc91.2540e25e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:40:46 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"QgaHN3.0.Y-2.jYu3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com tn, > So, does the "replace the panpot with another send" > mod leave the channel > mono (to be later stereoized with the pcm80) or what? > How's that work? yeah, that's it: for now. twas a quick fix, so..... i left 2 stereo chls & the effects return pannable, w/only 1 pre-fader send apiece. compromises, for the sake of smallerising..... > amplify your oud? though i much prefer the acoustic oud -i have a cheapie k&k pickup, for it- i use an electric najarian oud, 'live': amplified through my regular guitar rig. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 17:55:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16087; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:55:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:55:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.98bd466.2540e401@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:47:45 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"dN-CH2.0.FN3.oeu3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Whatabout the FireworX? Where does that go? the fireworx hath left the building..... > More string time exactly! I use a Boss GT-5 and have > found it's 1.8 secs to > be extremely loopable... Sometimes I just leave the > EDP and rack at home and > have a blast with the GT-5 and a fuzz or two... actually, i wasn't complaining *at all* bout keeping me hands off the strings: i dig it. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 18:05:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA18918; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:05:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:05:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991021175911.007a87d0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: taghairm@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:59:11 -0400 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: peter koniuto Subject: --loopers and aux sends-- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"6HnbT1.0.UH4.ypu3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > Just be sure to turn one aux send > > down before turning the other up, though, or you'll get a > >blast of nasty > > overload feedback when it goes back into the first device! > what fun, eh? dt Yeah, especially when yer doing this on purpose! I've spent a fair amount of time practicing with the gain structures in this possible chain of devices and the result can be quite satisfying. Stumbled upon it when i was trying to get an atmo-loop out of guitar part a collaborator had already laid down to tape. I fed the dry in signal into the reverb unit, and a little bit into the EDP. Then i sent the reverb unit into the Vortex, and a touch of that into the EDP...and sent a some of that Vortex mangling into the EDP as well. Then, of course, i sent the EDP back to the reverb unit. The "dry" guitar part off tape had long ended and i was still juggling these signals going to and fro. That's when i started EQing each device slightly hear and there to take the loop to a completely different place. 'Twas all quite an improvisational process. I captured the second half of this experimentation on DAT (about 25 minutes or so), and the whole thing is beautiful. I ended up stealing a chunk and laying it underneath all the other elements in the piece the original guitar part came from. By far the most interesting "pad" used in any project i've ever worked on. The cat loved it too. See ya, pete koniuto ---------------- TAGHAIRM (Old Irish) noise, echo, a mode of divination by listening to the noise of water cascades... from: MacBain's Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic Language Gairm Publications, 1982 --------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 18:10:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20280; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:10:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:10:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991021220736.12452.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:07:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: OT: Midi to CV To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"O2Ztr3.0.8d4.huu3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OT request for info: I am shopping for a midi to control voltage converter so that I can control my moog synths with midi guitar. If you have experience and comments about any commercial midi to cv converter please respond directly to me echoplex@yahoo.com thanks, bret ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 18:50:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29349; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:50:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:50:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991021224550.20647.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:45:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: --loopers and aux sends-- To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"e1AuL3.0.nt6.fUv3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK, Sounds cool, let's hear it. We cats will be a judge of beautiful :-). Randy Jones --- peter koniuto wrote: > I captured the second half of this > experimentation on DAT > (about 25 minutes or so), and the whole thing > is beautiful. > I ended up stealing a chunk and laying it > underneath all > the other elements in the piece the original > guitar part > came from. > > By far the most interesting "pad" used in any > project i've ever > worked on. > > The cat loved it too. > > See ya, > pete koniuto > > > ---------------- > TAGHAIRM > > (Old Irish) noise, echo, a mode of divination > by > listening to the noise of water cascades... > > > from: > > MacBain's Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic > Language > Gairm Publications, 1982 > --------------- > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 19:10:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01477; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:10:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:10:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380F9CDD.B1A2813D@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:08:13 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: --loopers and aux sends-- References: <19991021224550.20647.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"xQN9T2.0.s4.Hnv3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i'll 2nd that! Randy Jones wrote: > OK, > > Sounds cool, let's hear it. We cats will be a > judge of beautiful :-). > > Randy Jones > --- peter koniuto > wrote: > > I captured the second half of this > > experimentation on DAT > > (about 25 minutes or so), and the whole thing > > is beautiful. > > I ended up stealing a chunk and laying it > > underneath all > > the other elements in the piece the original > > guitar part > > came from. > > > > By far the most interesting "pad" used in any > > project i've ever > > worked on. > > > > The cat loved it too. > > > > See ya, > > pete koniuto > > > > > > ---------------- > > TAGHAIRM > > > > (Old Irish) noise, echo, a mode of divination > > by > > listening to the noise of water cascades... > > > > > > from: > > > > MacBain's Etymological Dictionary of the Gaelic > > Language > > Gairm Publications, 1982 > > --------------- > > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 20:30:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20394; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:30:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:30:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b501bf1c23$9b1ff860$564badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Midi to CV Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:23:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"w30Fy.0._M4.-tw3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I recommend Kenton Pro Solo. Hands down the best for the money. About $200 USD. You can get one at Rogue Music in the US: www.roguemusic.com Kentons website is www.kenton.co.uk - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Bret To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:13 PM Subject: OT: Midi to CV >OT request for info: >I am shopping for a midi to control voltage converter >so that I can control my moog synths with midi guitar. > If you have experience and comments about any >commercial midi to cv converter please respond >directly to me >echoplex@yahoo.com >thanks, >bret > > >===== > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 21:25:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05595; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:25:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:25:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.afd522bb.2541157a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:18:50 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"JuupG3.0.gx.skx3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/21/99 7:46:35 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, Texture444@aol.com writes: << amplified through my regular guitar rig. >> please elaborate..........:).........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 21:31:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07276; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:31:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:31:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380FBD8A.3455@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:27:38 +0200 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"QoTfi2.0.dP1.8rx3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > K. Douglas Baldwin wrote: > > It's interesting that using the Headrush , or any real-time "start-stop" > looping device really hones our rhythmic skills and alerts us to our > rhythmic inadequecies. The trick is to get your rhythm happening in advance, > and percieve the seam of the loop as the first beat of the repetition. For > example, if I were to create a two-measure loop, I would begin counting to > myself "1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4," etc. Then when I felt ready, I'd go "STOMP > (starting the loop), 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, STOMP (ending/looping the loop)". > If my timing is good, the rhythm will be seamless. If I pause the tiniest > bit, there will be a pause in the loop. More commonly, it is human nature to > speed up while playing (even over two measures) so that the beginning of the > loop will be slower than the end, creating a herky-jerky jolt at the loop > seam. Hang with your metronome, relax, and focus on your breathing, and you > will honor the groove, and know where the One is. > Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster > dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us > > See also DJRND2 singer version (automatic built in metronome + longer mono loops (up to 32 bars) But only possible for free-hand users Emmanuel From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 22:47:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27680; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:47:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:47:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bf1c36$65cfeb80$055fea18@lvcablemode.com> From: "Michael Wilson" To: References: <19991021224550.20647.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Subject: remove Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:37:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"1CFyg3.0.7C6.2vy3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com remove From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 21 22:49:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28272; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:49:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:49:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991022024358.0180eb44@pop> X-Sender: kflint@pop X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:43:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: CD-RW Burner for Mac Laptop Resent-Message-ID: <"x85-J.0.Lj6.L_y3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sort of off-topic, but you'll probably hear people wondering about USB2.0 audio sooner or later, so it's kind of related.... At 11:10 AM 10/21/99 -0700, Stephen Goodman wrote: >Watch for USB 2.0 as it's supposed to supply a bigger throughput than the >present spec. Kim probably knows this one on a more tech level. I've had to think about USB 2.0 a lot lately.... At this point USB 2.0 consists of Intel's Power Point slides and the version1.0 spec, which was finally released to those who have signed the various license agreements just last week. (too bad you can't sell ppt slides ;-) This means: - no silicon exists now. Indeed, chipset designs with USB2 are only just starting, they won't be here for a while. - motherboards with these chipsets will take a while after that, especially since there will be no peripherals or drivers, so it's the usual chicken/egg thing. - USB2 peripherals won't show up until there is installed base of users, sometime after the mobos appear. - Microsoft says (not very enthusiastically) that they will write drivers after they have received working hardware to test them on. These will appear in whatever windows release comes after that. (The version with all the bugs fixed will be in the next windows release after that. ;-) The mainstream products won't appear until this happens. (probably apple is similar.) - After all this happens, it won't work for a while. Bugs, plus sending 480MHz over a crap USB cable is really hard, and Intel's track record in this area ain't so hot lately. (see Rambus) - and of course, the market will be totally confused about what the difference between USB1 and USB2 is (and whether to use 1394 or USB2), so adoption and price drops will be slow. In summary, USB 2.0: don't hold your breath. A good rule of thumb for this hyped up PC industry stuff is, whatever the most conservative estimate for it's appearance in the market, multiply by 2-3. (c.f., USB 1.0 ;-) If USB is on your powerbook, and USB CDRW is available now, that's probably the thing to do. Or, if 1394/firewire is on the powerbook, I see that 1394 CDRW (16x) is available about $100 more than the 8x USB drives, that might be better since it's much faster. (and it actually exists now...) I notice a lot of 1394 peripherals have been appearing lately, at good prices. kim ___________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-845-6383 Manager, System Engineering kflint@ati.com ATI Research, Inc. http://www.ati.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 05:28:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA21739; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:28:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:28:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:19:55 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question In-reply-to: <012201bf1be7$2e448120$392310ac@Douglas> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2FVOI3.0.Nu4.4p24u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:58 AM -0700 10/21/99, K. Douglas Baldwin wrote: >Jason Fink wrote: > >> With regard to the Headrush, I am having a little difficulty >> during the looping function. If I get a riff going, the looper >> seems to have a pause before the repeat begins. I am not sure if >> it is a function of MY timing when I hit the switchs, or if the >> box is just screwing with the timing. As it is now, I get a loop >> going, then pause to adapt any further playing to the new beat of >> the loop. Does that make any sense? >> >> Can anyone advise a fledgling looper on making the most out of this >> stomp box? > > > It's interesting that using the Headrush , or any real-time "start-stop" >looping device really hones our rhythmic skills and alerts us to our >rhythmic inadequecies. The trick is to get your rhythm happening in advance, >and percieve the seam of the loop as the first beat of the repetition. For >example, if I were to create a two-measure loop, I would begin counting to >myself "1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4," etc. Then when I felt ready, I'd go "STOMP >(starting the loop), 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4, STOMP (ending/looping the loop)". >If my timing is good, the rhythm will be seamless. If I pause the tiniest >bit, there will be a pause in the loop. More commonly, it is human nature to >speed up while playing (even over two measures) so that the beginning of the >loop will be slower than the end, creating a herky-jerky jolt at the loop >seam. Hang with your metronome, relax, and focus on your breathing, and you >will honor the groove, and know where the One is. This is all very good advice. The unfortunate thing about the headrush is it uses those big clunky switches that are difficult to tap with accuracy. You have to stomp; it's much easier to be accurate with a light and relaxed tap. With all the other foot activated loopers the designers seemed to have thought of this point, and carefully selected switches that can easily be tapped with rhythmic accuracy.... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 06:49:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA01984; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:49:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:49:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991022063612.007a7660@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:36:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question In-Reply-To: References: <012201bf1be7$2e448120$392310ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"WsSFX1.0.W_7.3w34u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As sort of a followup to my question about muffling the noise of these big clunky switches (EH stuff, too), does anyone know of a quieter alternative that can be swapped in without too much modification? (i.e. supplier/part # or anything like that...) I have a feeling we're out of luck on this one, as the ideal thing would probably require the additional circuitry of electronic switching, but it's worth asking. Anyone? Tim At 02:19 AM 10/22/99 -0700, you wrote: ... The unfortunate thing about the headrush is >it uses those big clunky switches that are difficult to tap with accuracy. >You have to stomp; it's much easier to be accurate with a light and relaxed >tap. With all the other foot activated loopers the designers seemed to have >thought of this point, and carefully selected switches that can easily be >tapped with rhythmic accuracy.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 08:21:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA18392; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:21:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:21:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2b3b47c.2541aedf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:13:19 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"JEcba.0.l94.LK54u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << amplified through my regular guitar rig. >> > please elaborate..........:).........michael me current live stuff: sound sources: klein electric gtr, najarian electric oud, highlander-amplified national duolian, saltshaker mic (?mfr?), riyazmaster pro tabla machine, veillette baritone gtr, crews amp-in-gtr, fender mustang gtr, sony mono cassette recorder (w/pitch ctrl), sony micro-cassette recorder (w/pitch ctrl), same single modified Min'D-pick that i've used since 1979 amps: rivera m100 amp w/single celestion 12" cab (for original gtr & snd srces), 2 rivera r100 w/2x12" celestions each for processed signals; when travelling light(er), sometimes the rivera m100 is replaced by a mesa formulapre feeding the 2 rivera r100's via the 'mixer rack' pedales: tc sustain/eq, tc 12-stage phaser, zvex fuzzfactory (& sometimes) seekwah, guyatone autowah, boss aw2 autowah, (sometimes) guyatone digital delay, boss analog delay, prescription electronics experience (& sometimes others), visual volume/wah, 3 voltage ctrls for pcm42, voodoolabs pedalpower rack: modified rane sm82 (or modified ashley) mixer, EDP, modified lexicon pcm42, lexicon pcm80, moogerfooger ringmodulator, waldorf miniworks 4-pole filter, and occasionally: a zoom or roland sampler wow, thatsa lotta shite! but it *has* been more than 30 years in contruction..... best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 08:39:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22465; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:39:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:39:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991022123231.006f83a0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:32:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: fruityloops Resent-Message-ID: <"nKhv-2.0._A5.Rc54u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Rob to make percussive loops (not just drums) via software I use a lot of progs... testing software and writing for a music mag has its advantages... :) I can suggest fruity loops, rebirth (with mods and the rewire technology you can do really great things ), acid, drumstation, gigasampler, reality, probe, cubase VST with rex files, reaktor, dreamstation, audiomulch, hammerhead and moonfish, simsynth.... and these are just my preferred ones... not that I use all them at the same time, in every project! lot of my work is done on my samplers too.. the communication between software and hardware plays a big role in my production method: the dialogue between PC, Yamaha A3k and Ensoniq ASR X is entirely digital, so I have maximum creative flexibility. For example, I could program a basic beat using the ASR X pads (one of my preferred methods...), send the loop to the PC where I can resequence the whole pattern. the rearranged groove can go to the A3000 for some weird processing and come back to the PC for final editing. Lots of options, really. hope this helps ciao leo At 17.19 21/10/99 +0200, you wrote: >It looks like i'm out of touch with the fruit loops thing ... thanks for >the details Leo! > >What other software are you using these days? > >Rob > >leocavallo schrieb: >> >> >> hi Rob >> >> 1.7.6 is the latest version. it has all the features that I mentioned PLUS a >> lot more... internal synth, compatibility with other synthesis software >> patches, VST plugins support on 5 different FX send (to process each track >> indipendently), MP3 rendering, etc. >> >> hope this helps >> ciao >> leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 08:56:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA26324; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:56:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:56:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991022124920.007025fc@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:49:20 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Resent-Message-ID: <"Boxus1.0._86.8u54u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? what the **** is this thang? :) ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 09:00:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27346; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:00:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:00:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991022125155.00709a3c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:51:55 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Resent-Message-ID: <"qKN1W1.0.BM6.Kw54u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've never see you live but... how do you play all this stuff??? :) ciao leo At 08.13 22/10/99 EDT, you wrote: ><< amplified through my regular guitar rig. >> >> please elaborate..........:).........michael > >me current live stuff: >sound sources: klein electric gtr, najarian electric oud, highlander-amplified national duolian, saltshaker mic (?mfr?), riyazmaster pro tabla machine, veillette baritone gtr, crews amp-in-gtr, fender mustang gtr, sony mono cassette recorder (w/pitch ctrl), sony micro-cassette recorder (w/pitch ctrl), same single modified Min'D-pick that i've used since 1979 > >amps: rivera m100 amp w/single celestion 12" cab (for original gtr & snd srces), 2 rivera r100 w/2x12" celestions each for processed signals; when travelling light(er), sometimes the rivera m100 is replaced by a mesa formulapre feeding the 2 rivera r100's via the 'mixer rack' > >pedales: tc sustain/eq, tc 12-stage phaser, zvex fuzzfactory (& sometimes) seekwah, guyatone autowah, boss aw2 autowah, (sometimes) guyatone digital delay, boss analog delay, prescription electronics experience (& sometimes others), visual volume/wah, 3 voltage ctrls for pcm42, voodoolabs pedalpower > >rack: modified rane sm82 (or modified ashley) mixer, EDP, modified lexicon pcm42, lexicon pcm80, moogerfooger ringmodulator, waldorf miniworks 4-pole filter, and occasionally: a zoom or roland sampler > >wow, thatsa lotta shite! >but it *has* been more than 30 years in contruction..... >best, >dt > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 09:11:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30067; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:11:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:11:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <380F8194.5DEC2DED@arrakis.es> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:11:50 +0200 From: "Carmelo Jordá" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" , "STICKWIRE-L@HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM" Subject: Tapeadores Autumn course 1999 report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"m3tL23.0.d_6.D464u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all! Between the 8th and the 13th of october the most recent Tapeadores course took place (with Markus Reuter as instructor and Steve Whitman, David Poveda and Carmelo Jordá as attendants). We had very useful and funny days of playing and practising. We all are very happy with the final results of the course and with the profit we have taken of it, especially Steve, who came over from the states to join us. We have worked and improved on all the aspects of our playing (rhythm, basic technique, sound, improvisation...) and we also spend a great time together! Next year we expect to to have other courses and everybody is invited to join us. Be sure that it will be worth the effort. Best Regards, Carmelo Jordá From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 09:59:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08359; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:59:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:59:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Openjam99@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f3aeff74.2541c200@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:34:56 EDT Subject: jamming over the edp To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"reeUw.0.Mo.sW64u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I have abandoned my 2 jammen for 1 EDP. I happy so far except one thing. with the EDP how can I cruise through loop structures and solo over them without automatically recording them? Example: 3 loops. On the fly I can record 1-2-3 but when I get back to 1 or 2 the EDP wants to record. I want it to simply play and allow me to add texture when I build up another jam. I'm sure it can, but I have yet to find the exact example in the book. I will continue while this is being posted. openjam From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 10:10:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11198; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:10:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:10:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a3b1e129.2541c8ce@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:03:58 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"olJuZ1.0.6N2.2y64u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com leo, > ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? > what the **** is this thang? :) its a (non-syncable) indian pre-set synthesisized tabla-sound 'drum-machine', kinda. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 10:25:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14900; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:25:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:25:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38102CBF.F8215D80@texas.net> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:22:09 +0000 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte References: <2.2.32.19991022124920.007025fc@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DU58r1.0.qL3.-A74u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it's a cool little tabla drum machine that uses decent sounding samples for the different tabla bols. lotsa fun, you can get them at the ali akbar college store (1-800-74-tabla) bobdog leocavallo wrote: > ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? > > what the **** is this thang? :) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 10:32:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16912; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:32:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:32:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <325d4083.2541caf1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:13:05 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"xioZa3.0.Wy2.J474u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com leo, > I've never see you live but... how do you play all this stuff??? :) not so difficult..... the actuality is probably more well-integrated than it appears 'in text': and, i've been doing an awfully good job of faking-it/knob-tweaking-string-pushing-posing! anyway: sorry that you missed the Gtr Obliq (vernon reid, elliott sharp, myself) gigs in italia, this past june: i think they were far better than the (very weak) live recording that was (maybe unfortunately) released. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 10:56:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22683; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:56:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:56:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004501bf1c9c$c9c351c0$aa4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:50:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"sd9xD2.0.s85.Jb74u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is there a URL for this??? Sound like a neat machine. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >it's a cool little tabla drum machine that uses decent sounding samples >for the different tabla bols. lotsa fun, you can get them at the ali >akbar college store (1-800-74-tabla) > >bobdog > > > >leocavallo wrote: > >> ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? >> >> what the **** is this thang? :) >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 11:14:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26765; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:14:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:14:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005901bf1c9c$b18591e0$cfb854ce@WINTEGRIDXO4VN> From: MKata@Wintegrity.com (Mark Kata) To: References: <325d4083.2541caf1@aol.com> Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:49:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2918.2701 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2918.2701 Resent-Message-ID: <"LpY852.0.GF5.vd74u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Any chance of a CD from the Italia gig being released? Mark Kata > sorry that you missed the Gtr Obliq (vernon reid, elliott sharp, myself) gigs in italia, this past june: > i think they were far better than the (very weak) live recording that was (maybe unfortunately) released. > best, > dt > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 11:56:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04204; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:56:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:56:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991022153032.19468.rocketmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: m1cha3l@earthlink.net Subject: Re: fruity loops and powerbook CD burner To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"dzOu-.0.zL7.p984u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've been using the freeware hammerhead in rehearsal when the drummer can't make it. It's simple, but good - does the job and has an easy as pie interface. I've looked around at a bunch of others, including fruity loops, and will probably give it another look now. I think the reason I didn't use it in the first place is cause I thought it was ugly. As far as the powerbook goes - get a scsi cd-rom drive. That powerbook still has a scsi port on it, and that will be WAY faster than burning over the usb port. Unless speed isn't an issue, and you really want to get a usb one, for cross-platform reasons or whatever... I'll be buying one of those powerbooks myself in a few weeks. It looks like they'll be the last ones with a scsi port. MT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 12:29:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12958; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:29:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:29:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991022162230.006fa9a0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Resent-Message-ID: <"YYFLw1.0.sf2.lz84u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09.22 22/10/99 +0000, you wrote: >it's a cool little tabla drum machine that uses decent sounding samples >for the different tabla bols. lotsa fun, you can get them at the ali >akbar college store (1-800-74-tabla) uhm... intersting... any URL? ciao leo > >bobdog > > > >leocavallo wrote: > >> ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? >> >> what the **** is this thang? :) >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 12:31:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13256; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:31:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:31:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.99af5e1.2541e738@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:13:44 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"lYC7V3.0.OD2.Es84u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/22/99 10:20:45 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, Texture444@aol.com writes: << me current live stuff: >> thanks david..........looks alot like my current set-up........right!..........:).......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 12:31:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13185; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:31:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:31:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991022162231.0070fca0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:22:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Resent-Message-ID: <"ZK8Vn3.0.yf2.lz84u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com uhm... I've seen Vernon Reid and Elliot Sharp in a few different places (altough not playing together) here in Italy, but sadly I've missed the Guitar Oblique shows... where did you play? just a question: do you use the whole setup more for improvising contexts or for structured playing too? ciao leo At 10.13 22/10/99 EDT, you wrote: >leo, >> I've never see you live but... how do you play all this stuff??? :) > >not so difficult..... the actuality is probably more well-integrated than it appears 'in text': >and, i've been doing an awfully good job of faking-it/knob-tweaking-string-pushing-posing! > >anyway: >sorry that you missed the Gtr Obliq (vernon reid, elliott sharp, myself) gigs in italia, this past june: >i think they were far better than the (very weak) live recording that was (maybe unfortunately) released. >best, >dt > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 13:11:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24227; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:11:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:11:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991022120242.007bfe90@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:02:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: min'd picks and akai remix 16 In-Reply-To: <001301bf1b98$2c610d00$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> References: <7089DA242CE0D111BE750020AFD36C74105B0B@ZIPPY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"_1pE62.0.YH5.hZ94u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... I saw Mr. Torn's mention of the Min'd pick, and I was curious if those were still in production. If so, who has them and where can one pick up one? Also, I just got a beat up Akai Remix 16 and am looking for a manual for it. There are no resources on the web, so I was wondering if anyone here had a manual or could obtain a photocopy of it. Heck, someone might even know of a web resource where I could download it. Thanks in advance, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 13:12:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24467; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:12:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:12:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C7A5@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:02:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"m_Qp91.0.Sa5.rc94u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.aacm.org/aacm/index.html Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: leocavallo [SMTP:cavallo@dada.it] > Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 9:23 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte > > At 09.22 22/10/99 +0000, you wrote: > >it's a cool little tabla drum machine that uses decent sounding samples > >for the different tabla bols. lotsa fun, you can get them at the ali > >akbar college store (1-800-74-tabla) > > uhm... intersting... any URL? > > ciao > leo > > > > >bobdog > > > > > > > >leocavallo wrote: > > > >> ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? > >> > >> what the **** is this thang? :) > >> > >> > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 14:13:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08158; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:13:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:13:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:05:42 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910221805.OAA09061@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"9cuyM3.0.Za1.JUA4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #135 October 21, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued Oktoberfest EMUSIC-style with a month-long focus on the artist roster of the German label Manikin. The feature CD at midnight was "The Ancient Saga" by Arcanum. Manikin : http://www.manikin.de EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html Monk and Hearts of Space recording group Coyote Oldman will appear at the next Gathering on October 23 at St. Mary's Church Sanctuary. The Gathering after that will see the return of Steve Roach to Philadelphia on November 5 at St. Mary's Church. The Electronic Music Mini Festival will be held at the Theatre 3-in-1 in Huizen, The Netherlands on October 30. Ron Boots & Friends, Syndromeda, Free System Project with Patchwork, Wave World, and Gert Emmens will be the performing artists. Music was played in support of these three outstanding events. EMUSIC Events : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html The Gathering : http://www.starsend.org/20gather.html Mini Festival : http://home.wxs.nl/~quantumproductions/minifest.htm Mini Festival : http://www.groove.nl/news.html#oct99 I'd like to express my thanks to the listeners who called in their pledges in support of EMUSIC and WDIY. Your support keeps the soundscapes going! Thanks to Steve Roach for the wonderful interview, insights into his musical world, and support of WDIY's membership drive. And thanks to Tales for supporting the cause by supplying copies of Interstellar Memories to use as thank you gifts to send to our listeners who pledged their support. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Tales The Leap in the Dark Interstellat Memories (SIT) Steve Roach interview with music from Light Fantastic underneath Steve Roach Trip the Light Light Fantastic (Fathom) Steve Roach Breathing the Pulse Light Fantastic (Fathom) Steve Roach The Reflecting Chamber Light Fantastic (Fathom) Steve Roach Touch the Pearl * Light Fantastic (Fathom) Coyote Oldman The Shape of Time In Beauty I Walk (HoS) Wave World Urban Distance Species (Quantum) 12:00 am Arcanum Close to the Edge The Ancient Saga (Manikin) Arcanum Shadowland The Ancient Saga (Manikin) Arcanum The Ancient Saga * The Ancient Saga (Manikin) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will conclude the month-long Oktoberfest focus on the German label, Manikin. The Feature CD at Midnight will be "Recall Level" by Rolf Trostel. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 14:21:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10616; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:21:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:21:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <022201bf1cb9$41a5dde0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:14:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"tlxKk3.0.w92.BcA4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You might also check out Taal Wizard at: http://www.swarsystems.com/TaalWizard/ Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: leocavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >At 09.22 22/10/99 +0000, you wrote: >>it's a cool little tabla drum machine that uses decent sounding samples >>for the different tabla bols. lotsa fun, you can get them at the ali >>akbar college store (1-800-74-tabla) > >uhm... intersting... any URL? > >ciao >leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 14:34:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13724; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:34:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:34:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910221828.OAA21972@home.HoundsOfHeaven.com> X-Sender: kevincc@houndsofheaven.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:28:07 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kevin Cheli-Colando Subject: Sound on Sound In-Reply-To: <7089DA242CE0D111BE750020AFD36C74105B0B@ZIPPY> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"zMfFQ.0.n_2.KpA4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone know anything about a Teac AX10 Sound on Sound Stereo Echo Effect? I've found a reference to one of these pretty cheap and am wondering if this is actually a tape echo or something else altogether. I'm coming up blank on all other searches so the question goes to the list. Thanks for any help Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 14:45:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16503; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:45:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:45:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: min'd picks and akai remix 16 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 99 14:30:40 -0400 x-sender: jdurant@pop.tiac.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: jdurant To: "Loopers-Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"K9RXV1.0.343.NqA4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Jeff- I doubt you'll find the Mind Pick, but a SF-based company called Brasilia makes hand-made stone picks in a couple sizes. I've found the Fender size works quite well, but they have four or five choices. Ohone (415) 386-0166. I think that their url is www. brasilia.com, but I can't recall. Good luck. Jon Durant >Hi, all... > I saw Mr. Torn's mention of the Min'd pick, and I was curious if those >were still in production. If so, who has them and where can one pick up one? > Also, I just got a beat up Akai Remix 16 and am looking for a manual for >it. There are no resources on the web, so I was wondering if anyone here >had a manual or could obtain a photocopy of it. Heck, someone might even >know of a web resource where I could download it. >Thanks in advance, >Jeff McLeod From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 15:06:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22066; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:06:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:06:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: igames@zol.co.zw Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:42:08 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: EDP To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"9A9FM1.0.pv3.h0B4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone know where I can find an EDP in England? Situation complicated as I will only be there for one week later this year. Currently reside in Zimbabwe/Botswana. ....Ian From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 15:30:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28384; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:30:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:30:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:15:53 -0700 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: min'd picks and akai remix 16 X-Sender-Ip: 207.44.83.195 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7ZvXc3.0.i16.0WB4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i always write the mfger and they alwyas help. get any mag with an akai ad Keyboard,mix eq, elect musician and look for an ad -- On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:02:42 Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: >Hi, all... > I saw Mr. Torn's mention of the Min'd pick, and I was curious if those >were still in production. If so, who has them and where can one pick up one? > Also, I just got a beat up Akai Remix 16 and am looking for a manual for >it. There are no resources on the web, so I was wondering if anyone here >had a manual or could obtain a photocopy of it. Heck, someone might even >know of a web resource where I could download it. >Thanks in advance, >Jeff McLeod >__________________________________________ >This is not here-- >And now is almost over... >http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ >http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ > > -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 15:28:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27994; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:28:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:28:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991022185909.68352.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.77] From: "G716" To: References: Subject: Brasilia Picks Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:59:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Resent-Message-ID: <"r4qpf.0.I05.tGB4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Found 'em at http://www.mediaproca.com/brasilia/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jdurant" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: Re: min'd picks and akai remix 16 > Hey Jeff- > > I doubt you'll find the Mind Pick, but a SF-based company called Brasilia > makes hand-made stone picks in a couple sizes. I've found the Fender size > works quite well, but they have four or five choices. Ohone (415) > 386-0166. I think that their url is www. brasilia.com, but I can't > recall. Good luck. > Jon Durant From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 15:29:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28065; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:29:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:29:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910221908.MAA25303@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 14:08:41 -0500 Subject: FS: Boomerang $250 (Harmony Central) From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ed_-2.0.ic5.HPB4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler 4 meg $225 obo Asking Price: US$225 Condition: Mint Age: 4 months Description: Not a scratch, in original box with manual. 4 meg model. Buyer pays shipping, no trades please. Seller: Lou Vena, 773-404-1149 E-mail: louvena@hotmail.com (Profile) Location: CHICAGO, IL Post Date: 10/21/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 15:43:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32529; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:43:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:43:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: "Electronic music "gearhead" list" Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:33:43 -0700 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: loopers-delight@annihilist.com X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: vibrato tremolo X-Sender-Ip: 207.44.83.195 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"i9f6q.0.0K7.inB4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear list: I just got my rocktek vibrator . Its great great for 20.00. I really like it. Now , oive been told that most so called tremolo pedals are actually vibrato pedals (or is it the other way round) and that there is a difference . I see that there is a pedal that does both. what is the difference. Anyway i like this so much I may upgrade in about a year to the dod pedal with the third nob for waveform control .or this other which says it does both. I will use this one to imitate a dj's "transform" which is where a dj crossfades quickly so as to cuase parts of the sound to drop in or out. this is also sometimes accompanied with a pitch bend at the same time.my mixer has a botton"transform" but it is so noisy i cant record with it. so i end up using the fader and fading to silence on channel 2 and back quickly.now ill just use this. On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:41:06 Drew Skyfyre wrote: >> If your under 25,...etc. >Hey I'm 26, can I still play, huh ? > >Anyway, I've been here on & off since Jan of '98. Nicest Synth list around. >I for one enjoy even the occasional off-topic banter. And while we're on the >subject of the US & Canada, here's a good one a buddy from California just >sent my way - Drew >------------------------------------------------------------------------ ><ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, >1995. (Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations >10/10/95). > >Americans: Please divert your course 15 degrees to the north to avoid a >collision. > >Canadians: Recommend you divert YOUR course 15 degrees to the south to >avoid a collision. > >Americans: This is the Captain of a U.S. Navy ship. I say again, divert >YOUR course. > >Canadians: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course. > >Americans: This is the Aircraft Carrier U.S.S. Lincoln, the second largest >ship in the United States' Atlantic Fleet. We are accompanied by three >destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that you >change your course 15 degrees north, that's one five degrees north, or >counter-measures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship. > >Canadians: This is a lighthouse. Your call.>> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 15:52:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02035; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:52:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:52:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:23:06 +0000 Subject: Re: EDP From: "Martin Shellard" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"PcR47.0.s9.zyB4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The original EDP has CE certification and so has never been sold in England afaik. I'd say your chance of finding one second hand/imported are slim. Martin Shellard ---------- >From: igames@zol.co.zw >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: EDP >Date: Fri, Oct 22, 1999, 6:42 pm > > Anyone know where I can find an EDP in England? Situation complicated as > I will only be there for one week later this year. Currently reside in > Zimbabwe/Botswana. ....Ian From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 16:04:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05430; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:04:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:04:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Cornhilio2@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f1a2bd56.25421aa5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:53:09 EDT Subject: xbase09 comments To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"nv24m1.0.-h.t3C4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what do you all think of the xbase09 i was thinking of buying one From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 17:47:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29152; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:47:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:47:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.559fba09.25422a5a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:00:10 EDT Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"IJCdl3.0.Vf4.L2D4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>the quality of any loop is in what the player puts inside or leaves out along with the quality of the gear to a certain degree but still with the musician being the main ingredient<< Very well put, JP. Kinda made my day. ;-) In addition: The sound 'quality' of the Headrush is simply much higher than the (two) Jamman I used to have. I didn't find noisy loops acceptable for the kind of music I do. Both maxxed out too! I sold my EDP because I don't need most of what it does and if a piece of gear flakes out on me too many times in a live situation (a few Ensoniq keyboards come to mind as well), I kind of get to not trust it.. It was maxxed out as well. Call me crazy. But for me, simple and clean is what I enjoy best about my two Headrushes. And with the 2nd one, lots of possiblities present themselves. And can you imagine, three or even four!?! Still cost you less than what a few used Jammen are selling for. Here's to more music and less "twiddly bits". Enjoy and thanks, Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 17:49:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29992; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:49:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:49:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.df3277d.25422db6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:14:30 EDT Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"ujlMc3.0.hL5.dFD4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << As sort of a followup to my question about muffling the noise of these big clunky switches (EH stuff, too), does anyone know of a quieter alternative that can be swapped in without too much modification? >> I'll go to Radio Shack tomorrow and see if they have something that might work. Should be simple really. I'm only bothered by the switches when using a mic. Then I get synced 'clicks'. Hasn't bothered me too much, but we all do things differently... Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 18:37:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08783; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:37:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:37:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b901bf1cdc$b2e38020$d2934e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Two questions / tabla machine (again) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:27:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B6_01BF1CBB.289CF3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"eHQfe3.0.O91.BCE4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01BF1CBB.289CF3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On the thread of tabla machines, etc. -- just came across this on = rec.music.indian.classical http://www.swarsystems.com/TaalTrax/ James ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01BF1CBB.289CF3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On the thread of tabla machines, etc. -- just = came=20 across this on rec.music.indian.classical
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01BF1CBB.289CF3E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 18:51:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12088; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:51:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:51:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991022183631.007a6480@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:36:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"zgh_j1.0.bA2.LTE4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Mark, Yeah, it is the other way 'round. A tremolo is a fluctuation in amplitude, which is a pretty simple circuit, whereas (true) vibrato is a fluctuation in pitch, not as easy. A lot of pedals marketed as vibratos are actually tremolos. Tim At 12:33 PM 10/22/99 -0700, you wrote: > >dear list: I just got my rocktek vibrator . Its great great for 20.00. I really like it. Now , oive been told that most so called tremolo pedals are actually vibrato pedals (or is it the other way round) and that there is a difference . I see that there is a pedal that does both. what is the difference. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 18:59:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13768; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:59:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:59:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007801bf1cd9$6a136480$d2934e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Two questions / tabla machine Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:04:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"f6lTO.0.il7.IsD4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Also check Radel Systems at http://www.radelindia.com James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 19:53:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25830; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:53:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:53:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401bf1ce7$83ebe040$754badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:45:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"13u5r1.0.Hm5.iQF4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The converse is also true... - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo >Hi Mark, > >Yeah, it is the other way 'round. A tremolo is a fluctuation in amplitude, >which is a pretty simple circuit, whereas (true) vibrato is a fluctuation >in pitch, not as easy. A lot of pedals marketed as vibratos are actually >tremolos. > >Tim > >At 12:33 PM 10/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>dear list: I just got my rocktek vibrator . Its great great for 20.00. I >really like it. Now , oive been told that most so called tremolo pedals are >actually vibrato pedals (or is it the other way round) and that there is a >difference . I see that there is a pedal that does both. what is the >difference. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 19:53:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25846; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:53:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:53:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 19:51:02 -0400 Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo From: "Joey Dail" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"tDxbj3.0.Rp5.1SF4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The difference in vibrato and tremelo is as follows: tremelo is the variation in the volume of you sound vibrato is a variation in the pitch What peole generally refer to as a tremelo bar should actually be called a vibrato bar. Drives me crazy. something you may want to look into as far as vibrato goes is DigiTech's wammy pedal. Not only are there several (programable) types of vibrato, but there are also a lot of wah's. Just a thought. ---------- >From: "mark givens" >To: "Electronic music "gearhead" list" >Subject: vibrato tremolo >Date: Fri, Oct 22, 1999, 3:33 PM > > > dear list: I just got my rocktek vibrator . Its great great for 20.00. I > really like it. Now , oive been told that most so called tremolo pedals are > actually vibrato pedals (or is it the other way round) and that there is a > difference . I see that there is a pedal that does both. what is the > difference. Anyway i like this so much I may upgrade in about a year to the > dod pedal with the third nob for waveform control .or this other which says > it does both. I will use this one to imitate a dj's "transform" which is > where a dj crossfades quickly so as to cuase parts of the sound to drop in > or out. this is also sometimes accompanied with a pitch bend at the same > time.my mixer has a botton"transform" but it is so noisy i cant record with > it. so i end up using the fader and fading to silence on channel 2 and back > quickly.now ill just use this. > > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 13:41:06 Drew Skyfyre wrote: >>> If your under 25,...etc. >>Hey I'm 26, can I still play, huh ? >> >>Anyway, I've been here on & off since Jan of '98. Nicest Synth list around. >>I for one enjoy even the occasional off-topic banter. And while we're on the >>subject of the US & Canada, here's a good one a buddy from California just >>sent my way - Drew >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >><>ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, >>1995. 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Your call.>> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com >> > > > -- > Join the most exciting community of women on the web! > iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, > your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, > and dozens of problem-solving tools. > http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 20:02:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28465; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:02:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:02:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:05:59 -0400 Subject: Buying Gear From: "Joey Dail" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"j_s3A2.0.jf6.SfF4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm looking at buying a sampler. Just now getting into this really. I'm currently looking at the JamMan, the Boomerang, and the Headrush. Any advice? Pros-cons? I've read a lot of good comments here about the headrush, it seems to be pretty hot. But then Phil Keaggy uses the JamMan, which is good enough for me! Just let me know your opinions. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 20:03:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28571; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:03:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:03:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991022235941.77891.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:59:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"ukS6f2.0.Ok6.UgF4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, I just bought a vibrator myself last week. I haven't busted it out and used it yet, is it any good? I've never heard of the Rocktek brand before seeing it but at the time I thought $50 was too good of a price. Here's a thing to remember about vibrato/tremolo and which is which: The "whammy bar" on a guitar is also known as a Tremolo Bar. That's the official name for it. That's also a bold faced lie. The tremolo bar allows us do the same things that a vibrato pedal does. This has caused me much confusion and I'm not even sure I know anything anymore. If something was vibrating (very violently)in relationship to you, there would be some sort of a doppler effect that would make the pitch waver very slighty. I think that's what a vibrato effect is supposed to simulate. If you were very frightened, and were trembling in a corner, your voice would probably waver in volume. Get it? Tremolo! Mr. Tough >From: "mark givens" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: "Electronic music "gearhead" list" >CC: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: vibrato tremolo >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:33:43 -0700 > > >dear list: I just got my rocktek vibrator . Its great great for 20.00. I >really like it. Now , oive been told that most so called tremolo pedals are >actually vibrato pedals (or is it the other way round) and that there is a >difference . I see that there is a pedal that does both. what is the >difference. Anyway i like this so much I may upgrade in about a year to the >dod pedal with the third nob for waveform control .or this other which says >it does both. I will use this one to imitate a dj's "transform" which is >where a dj crossfades quickly so as to cuase parts of the sound to drop in >or out. this is also sometimes accompanied with a pitch bend at the same >time.my mixer has a botton"transform" but it is so noisy i cant record with >it. so i end up using the fader and fading to silence on channel 2 and back >quickly.now ill just use this. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 20:49:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06378; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:49:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:49:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003101bf1cee$ff3ee790$754badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Buying Gear Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:38:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"VKqD21.0.cs.vCG4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll have a lot more to say about the Headrush in a few days. I just bought one for a rock bottom of $169. Since tape-based looping has always beenmy thing, I hope the Headrush sounds as good as I've heard around here on LD. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Joey Dail To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 8:05 PM Subject: Buying Gear >I'm looking at buying a sampler. Just now getting into this really. I'm >currently looking at the JamMan, the Boomerang, and the Headrush. Any >advice? Pros-cons? I've read a lot of good comments here about the >headrush, it seems to be pretty hot. But then Phil Keaggy uses the JamMan, >which is good enough for me! Just let me know your opinions. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 23:00:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01487; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:00:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:00:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001001bf1d00$a871d0a0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 21:45:23 -0500 X-Priority: 5 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"o6Tkt1.0.cM7._1I4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com don't go too crazy: use of word tremolo wrt guitar whammy bars isn't all that incorrect because the word actually has two definitions. tremolo 1 the rapid reiteration of a musical tone or of alternating tones to produce a tremulous effect 2 a mechanical device in an organ for causing a tremulous effect however, the electric guitar has given us a morph of definition two: a tremolo is now also a special kind of bridge on an electric guitar for bending the pitch of notes. tremolos on electric guitars allow you to do vibrato, which is a slightly tremulous effect imparted to vocal or instrumental tone for added warmth and expressiveness by slight and rapid variations in pitch, but that's not all you can do with them. You can use them to dive-bomb, imitate vocal tones and police sirens, create psychotic glissandi, and make lots of other cool sounds. none of that stuff I just mentioned is vibrato, but it's damn cool, so cool that I just bought a new guitar with a double-locking tremolo so I can do it all night long without having to retune 500 times. didn't it used to be called a vibrolo? Cheers, Cliff Claven ----- Original Message ----- From: Joey Dail To: Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 6:51 PM Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo > The difference in vibrato and tremelo is as follows: > tremelo is the variation in the volume of you sound > vibrato is a variation in the pitch > What peole generally refer to as a tremelo bar should actually be called a > vibrato bar. Drives me crazy. something you may want to look into as far > as vibrato goes is DigiTech's wammy pedal. Not only are there several > (programable) types of vibrato, but there are also a lot of wah's. Just a > thought. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 23:10:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03760; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:10:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:10:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991022230409.007a4600@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:04:09 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo (off-topic) In-Reply-To: <001401bf1ce7$83ebe040$754badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Ilh4n3.0.fg.QOI4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Disclaimer: None of the effects mentioned in the following post can loop by themselves, but the relevance depends on the length of your patch cords. Hi Larry, At 07:45 PM 10/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >The converse is also true... After I wrote: ... A lot of pedals marketed as vibratos are actually >>tremolos. And I'm wondering which pedals you're referring to. I'm not really disagreeing with you; I just can't think of any. The Rocktek Vibrator is a tremolo, as are the Boss TR-2, the Dunlop TS-1, the Ibanez TL-5, the Rocktron Surf, the Dunlop TVP-1, etc. The channel on a lot of vintage Fender amps that says "Vibrato" features a tremolo (although I'm fairly sure the old Vibrosonic and a couple of others did actually have what Fender called a "harmonic" vibrato). The "vibrato" on some old Selmers featured a cool little light that pulsed in time with, you guessed it, the tremolo. Vox amps had a very distinctive sounding tremolo with a nice hard on-off pulse, yet the trade name for this feature was VibroVox. Dual-duty pedals like the Carl Martin Trem O'Vibe offer tremolo and actual pitch modulation vibrato, as supposedly does the Marshall VT-1, although I haven't checked this one out. Some pedals (e.g. Rocktron's Purple Haze) have both distortion and phase-shifting circuitry, which can modulate kind of like a vibrato, but they're not. And they're not calling it a tremolo, either. Then there are the Lovetone Doppelganger, the Uni-Vibe, the RotoVibe, and so forth... Leslies, even, taking advantage of the Doppler effect. But none of these say "tremolo" on 'em. I'm sure there are isolated examples of "tremolos" which do actually modulate pitch, and I agree that the terminology has often been used interchangeably, but to say "most so called tremolo pedals are actually vibrato pedals" as was stated at the beginning of this thread is patently untrue. I wish we COULD all get real pitch-modulating vibrato pedals for twenty bucks apiece, but it's just not gonna happen... Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 22 23:34:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA09406; Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:34:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:34:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006d01bf1d07$43004150$754badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo (off-topic) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:32:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"pnokb1.0.p32.klI4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim, What I meant by "the converse is also true" is that many people - music dealers and musos often use the term tremelo when they really mean vibrato. I totally agree with your definitions of each: Tremelo - modulation of amplitude (volume) Vibrato - modulation of frequency For some many folks transpose the two - or use them interchanegably. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 22, 1999 11:12 PM Subject: Re: vibrato tremolo (off-topic) >Disclaimer: None of the effects mentioned in the following post can loop by >themselves, but the relevance depends on the length of your patch cords. > >Hi Larry, > >At 07:45 PM 10/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >>The converse is also true... > >After I wrote: >... A lot of pedals marketed as vibratos are actually >>>tremolos. > >And I'm wondering which pedals you're referring to. I'm not really >disagreeing with you; I just can't think of any. > >The Rocktek Vibrator is a tremolo, as are the Boss TR-2, the Dunlop TS-1, >the Ibanez TL-5, the Rocktron Surf, the Dunlop TVP-1, etc. The channel on a >lot of vintage Fender amps that says "Vibrato" features a tremolo (although >I'm fairly sure the old Vibrosonic and a couple of others did actually have >what Fender called a "harmonic" vibrato). The "vibrato" on some old Selmers >featured a cool little light that pulsed in time with, you guessed it, the >tremolo. Vox amps had a very distinctive sounding tremolo with a nice hard >on-off pulse, yet the trade name for this feature was VibroVox. > >Dual-duty pedals like the Carl Martin Trem O'Vibe offer tremolo and actual >pitch modulation vibrato, as supposedly does the Marshall VT-1, although I >haven't checked this one out. > >Some pedals (e.g. Rocktron's Purple Haze) have both distortion and >phase-shifting circuitry, which can modulate kind of like a vibrato, but >they're not. >And they're not calling it a tremolo, either. > >Then there are the Lovetone Doppelganger, the Uni-Vibe, the RotoVibe, and >so forth... Leslies, even, taking advantage of the Doppler effect. But none >of these say "tremolo" on 'em. > >I'm sure there are isolated examples of "tremolos" which do actually >modulate pitch, and I agree that the terminology has often been used >interchangeably, but to say "most so called tremolo pedals are actually >vibrato pedals" as was stated at the beginning of this thread is patently >untrue. I wish we COULD all get real pitch-modulating vibrato pedals for >twenty bucks apiece, but it's just not gonna happen... > >Tim > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 02:19:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12383; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:19:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:19:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910230613.IAA13599@m4.worldnet.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:16:19 +0200 Subject: unsubscribe From: "Lionel Hubert" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_Ljlt.0.em2.88L4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Please, unsubscribe me to this list. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 05:34:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13445; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:34:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:34:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 02:28:46 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01bf1d39$01c6a440$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199910230613.IAA13599@m4.worldnet.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"KH-gx2.0.w23.Z_N4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You must have meant "Please unsubscribe me from this list." | -----Original Message----- | From: Lionel Hubert [mailto:khpro@worldnet.fr] | Sent: Friday 22 October 1999 11:16 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: unsubscribe | | | Please, | unsubscribe me to this list. | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 05:40:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14474; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:40:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:40:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dlangenes@aol.com Message-ID: <0.3acd4ec1.2542db42@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 05:34:58 EDT Subject: re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <"Mru831.0.KL3.E6O4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Loopers, Anyone have any opinions on the Mesa Boogie "Mark" amps? Is the Mark III better than the Mark IV? What about the Mark I? Is one considered more "classic" than another? Does it matter? Does anything matter? Is there a god? Anyone? David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 06:08:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19510; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 06:08:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 06:08:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 03:03:32 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps In-reply-to: <0.3acd4ec1.2542db42@aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"DPdYI1.0.WZ4.CWO4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 2:34 AM -0700 10/23/99, Dlangenes@aol.com wrote: >Loopers, > >Anyone have any opinions on the Mesa Boogie "Mark" amps? Is the Mark III >better than the Mark IV? What about the Mark I? Is one considered more >"classic" than another? Does it matter? Does anything matter? Is there a god? >Anyone? > >David your god is not on this list. Try the Boogie-Talk list: http://www.auburn.edu/~swangdb/boogie-info.html kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 08:27:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10421; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:27:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:27:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.3961cd93.2542ffc6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:10:46 EDT Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"SN9hN.0.Zu1.xNQ4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am a proud Boogie owner, since Kim thinks he's god, I'll try to help. The Mark series of Boogie amps are considered by most tube purists to be the pinnacle of perfection for straight tube valve power. The thing is, it depends on what kind of tone you are after, Mark I's are remeniscent of "plexi" Marshalls, while the Mark II and III's have distinct Fender'ish clean tones with a more modern "california" dirt tones. These amps,(combos or heads) are pretty versatile and just plain loud. You wont get the oversaturated sound of the Rectifiers, but they do offer some very warm tube overdrive with a minimum amount of work and hum. I own a DC-5 (caliber series) which I use as a master, slaving a Simulclass2:90 from it, it works pretty well, being in the middle of the MarkIV and the Rectifier, big gain, very warm, and very versatile. I don't know if this will help you or not, and I'm sure that this will start some kind of ridiculouse thread from the list, but gear is gear, and anything I can help with is better than nothing at all. A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 09:27:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21484; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:27:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:27:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRagPEerjkZbGMzYRWDSxIqBAVVRAIVALEkFJkq9RfROZTJgAhE2aD3S2uh From: wo-5100dogrules@webtv.net (Steven Bazar) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 08:23:38 -0500 (CDT) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Buying Gear Message-ID: <13185-3811B6DA-13974@storefull-147.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Joey Dail" 's message of Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:05:59 -0400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"5mPOx2.0.L35.jRR4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com get the boomerang and run it through a volume pedal in a dual amp setting.so your not only layering your sound yo can pre alter it and suprise yourself whith the new acompiament From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 12:23:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25188; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:23:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:23:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "KHAN" To: Subject: remove Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 09:11:28 -0700 Message-ID: <01bf1d71$43734140$95141ad8@vucqpqlj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"4r6Ml3.0.Bb5.gxT4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com remove From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 12:56:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31763; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:56:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:56:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.54515531.25434171@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:50:57 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"tPZDX3.0.BX7.wUU4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >thanks david yer welcome. dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 13:01:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00611; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:01:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:01:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.172c8ddb.25434299@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:55:53 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"4y2233.0.2n7.EZU4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com leo, >where did you play? napoli, salerno, roma, padova..... somewhere else, too, i think..... >just a question: do you use the whole setup more for >improvising contexts or for structured playing too? what's the difference? 8-)) both:always. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 13:02:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00817; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:02:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:02:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.8b872c92.254342ff@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:57:35 EDT Subject: Re: min'd picks and akai remix 16 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"13eB01.0.Mq7.RaU4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com jm, >I saw Mr. Torn's mention of the Min'd pick, and I was >curious if those were still in production. If so, who >has them and where can one pick up one? sorry: don't know. dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 13:27:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06171; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:27:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:27:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "James Ko" To: Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:38:18 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0e04d21211717a9CPIMSSMTPU10@email.msn.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"xE4Y7.0.HE1.3xU4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi David: I own a Boogie Mark IV combo and I love it. Avoid the Mark III (a friend of mine had one). Don't get me wrong, it's two channels (clean and dirty) sound great but it was originally advertised as having three different tones. The problem is the third tone was a mixing of the two channels that never really worked that well. There is also volume balance problems when you switch between the two channels. The Mark IV succeeded where the Mark III failed. The three channels (clean, dirty, lead) are all excellent sounding, all very flexable tone wise, and you can switch between them using the included floor pedal. The amp is very well designed and although the many knobs and switches look intimidating at first, it is very intuatively laid out. It is a great amp for someone like me who wants a full tube amp and needs to switch instantly to different tones. I highly recommend it if you can afford it. The main problem I have with the amp is that it is just too damn loud. I have never had it above 4 and that was in a largish club. Also, the speaker (ev black shadow), while sounding great, is very directional and there is a noticable volume difference when you are directly in line with it as opposed to being askew from it. It's also really heavy for it's size. Hope this helps. Jim Ko Philadelphia, PA -----Original Message----- From: Dlangenes@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 5:39 AM Subject: re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps >Loopers, > >Anyone have any opinions on the Mesa Boogie "Mark" amps? Is the Mark III >better than the Mark IV? What about the Mark I? Is one considered more >"classic" than another? Does it matter? Does anything matter? Is there a god? >Anyone? > >David > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 13:30:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07142; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:30:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:30:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36D31CDC.498FF9D0@gte.net> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:25:48 -0800 From: nitesh patel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte References: <0.172c8ddb.25434299@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"aVvEo2.0.NV1.I_U4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com REMOVE Texture444@aol.com wrote: > leo, > >where did you play? > napoli, salerno, roma, padova..... somewhere else, too, i think..... > > >just a question: do you use the whole setup more for > >improvising contexts or for structured playing too? > what's the difference? > 8-)) > both:always. > best, > dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 13:49:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10396; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:49:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:49:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301be5f75$b483c720$c8240d3f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: References: <37B8C115.86C8D1C1@toddreynolds.com> <37B9E9CE.A1C06226@gte.net> Subject: Re: subscribe Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:44:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ow0zt3.0.jQ2.uGV4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com REMOVE ----- Original Message ----- From: nitesh patel To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 3:01 PM Subject: Re: subscribe > please remove me from list > > Todd Reynolds wrote: > > > -- > > Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and > > die happy" - henry miller > > 500B Grand St. 11G > > New York, NY 10002 > > > > 212 475-8559 phone > > 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. > > > > todd@toddreynolds.com > > http://www.toddreynolds.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 16:13:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06631; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:13:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:13:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910232005.QAA05229@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Apparently-From: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 01:27:33 +0530 Subject: Yamaha SU700 From: "Drew Skyfyre" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hES6h2.0.2I1.bKX4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Anyone here use a Yamaha SU700 ? Seems pretty powerful, though I've come acroos reports of system freezes. Assuming that it has pretty comprehensive MIDI implementation (which most Yamaha units seem to have), then under control from a sequencer or MIDI foot control pedal board, it could be used like an Echoplex. Plus the SCSI option means that loops can be saved directly to hard disk/removable drives & there are resonant filters, 68MB RAM, 3 effects processors, & a max of 64 voices, or in this case, actually tracks. Any comments ? - Drew -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Drew Skyfyre songwriter, webmaster, happy human Skyfyre 2.0: http://skyfyre.lookscool.com email: drew_skyfyre@yahoo.com Xenharmonic Engines : microtonality/xenharmonics http://microtonal.lookscool.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 16:33:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10884; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:33:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 16:33:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: REMOVE Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 13:27:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf1d94$f8097d40$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36D31CDC.498FF9D0@gte.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"wEIwZ3.0.OQ2.kgX4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'd like to post a public-service announcement for all those who are not aware about how to unsubscribe from Loopers' Delight and are contemplating doing so: Go to http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html and look at the instructions on how to unsubscribe, and spare us from little droppings like the one below: | -----Original Message----- | From: nitesh patel [mailto:tesh@gte.net] | Sent: Tuesday 23 February 1999 1:26 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte | | | REMOVE | | | Texture444@aol.com wrote: | | > leo, | > >where did you play? | > napoli, salerno, roma, padova..... somewhere else, too, i think..... | > | > >just a question: do you use the whole setup more for | > >improvising contexts or for structured playing too? | > what's the difference? | > 8-)) | > both:always. | > best, | > dt | Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 17:28:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24042; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:28:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:28:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Ruski945@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1eef4beb.25437d23@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 17:05:39 EDT Subject: please unsubsribe me To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"Oy3Dt.0.JR4.RDY4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I would like to be unsubsribed thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 19:54:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA32418; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:54:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:54:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:49:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Dark Aether Project in Washington DC area next Saturday Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"pk1oT1.0.Eg7.xca4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Dark Aether Project will perform live in the Washington DC area at 8pm on Saturday October 30th 1999 at Phantasmagoria (301-949-8886) located at 11319 Elkin Street in Wheaton MD. Admission is $10 at the door for this all ages show. The Dark Aether Project's music has been described as "jazz-inflected, often minimalistic...classy... mature musicianship without pretentiousness" by Progression magazine and "..intense and blistering lead work...amazing loops and shimmering textures that are at once haunting and dreamlike...worthy of attention." by Expose. The Dark Aether Project will perform in support of their latest album _Feed The Silence_ of which Progression writer Larry Nai writes: "Dark Aether Project hits a lot of progressive rock pleasure points with Feed the Silence, but make no mistake: this is not another derivative band with little new to say...this is an absolutely fabulous album." See http://www.DarkAether.Net/ The Dark Aether Project is: Adam Levin - Warr 8 String Touch Guitar/Keyboards/Loops Ray Weston - Vocals Allen Brunelle - Drums/Percussion/Keyboards/Vocals Steev Geest - Guitar/Guitar Synth/Loops Also appearing is Iluvatar who will perform in support of their brand new release _A Story Two Days Wide_, their first studio album of new material since 1995's _Children_. When attempting to describe the music of Iluvatar, one is tempted to compare and contrast it with other well-known groups such as Genesis, Rush, Yes, Pink Floyd, Marillion, Kansas, and others which fall into the same genre. While Iluvatar have certainly been influenced by these and numerous others, they are a clone of none. They successfully create their own unique and diverse sound. For more information about Iluvatar, see http://www.progrock.net/Bands/Iluvatar/ Chris Mack - drums, percussion Glenn McLaughlin - lead vocals, percussion Dean Morekas - bass guitar, bass pedals, backing vocals Dennis Mullin - guitars Jim Rezek - keyboards Directions to Phantasmagoria: Take DC Beltway (495) toward Silver Spring. Exit at Rt 97 (Georgia Ave) North towards Wheaton Go 2-3 miles on Georgia, keeping to the right Turn right on University Blvd (after Safeway) Take first right onto Elkin. Phantasmagoria is on the left From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 21:55:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24511; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:55:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:55:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a601be5fb9$6d63d440$93bc173f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:49:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BE5F76.5E559800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"lvpU73.0.1b5.INc4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Unidentified subject! 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------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01BE5F76.5E559800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 23 22:20:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA29815; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:20:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:20:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38126D96.DEE5998E@erols.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 22:23:22 -0400 From: "J.G. Wong" Reply-To: adaaxs@erols.com Organization: Tokusatsu.com, Tokusatsu Access Archive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: headrush References: <199910240021.UAA05359@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"f9r-a.0.877.Hmc4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Larry, Where'd you get the Headrush for $ 169 ? Best Gino From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 06:44:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28842; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:44:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:44:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001201bf1e0c$047ffa00$ee99b8d4@oemcomputer> To: "Loopers delight" Subject: Foot controller Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:37:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF1E1C.9941B100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-dialin.net From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (Luis Angulo) Resent-Message-ID: <"XbRov.0.Ng6.q4k4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF1E1C.9941B100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need an advice on foot controllers. I sold my PMC10 because it = betrayed me so many times. Now i=B4m looking for one with similar = features but reliable! is anybody outhere familiar with the ground = control or the new one from lexicon?can they send program changes to = different midi chanels and can i trigger synth chords with either = one?which one is the best option outhere? their web pages are not so = informative.My other question is when will they bring the EDP back in = production? L.A. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF1E1C.9941B100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I need an advice on foot controllers. I = sold my=20 PMC10 because it betrayed me so many times. Now i=B4m looking for one = with similar=20 features but reliable! is anybody outhere familiar with the ground = control or=20 the new one from lexicon?can they send program changes to different midi = chanels=20 and can i trigger synth chords with either one?which one is the best = option=20 outhere? their web pages are not so informative.My other question is = when will=20 they bring the EDP back in production?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BF1E1C.9941B100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 06:56:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31142; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:56:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:56:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3812E2A1.BA60B19@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:42:41 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: sequencing external midi expanders Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YG-kp2.0.2M7.-Jk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello loopland, hope this isn't too off-topic: my topic: i'm using the mpc2000 to control a multitimbral midi expander (roland jv 1010). i program "msb bank select" and "lsb bank select" controller change messages to select the sound bank and a "program change" to select the patch. these are located at the first note of the first bar. my problem: the actual sound of the patch gets cut off if a note occurs at the same point (i.e. the "one" of the first bar) as the controller/ program change messages. my question: how can i get around this? thanks, rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 06:56:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31047; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:56:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:56:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3812DEF3.9B5190A6@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:26:59 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fruityloops References: <2.2.32.19991022123231.006f83a0@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0VThd.0.eL7.qJk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks! rob leocavallo schrieb: > -slice- > I can suggest fruity loops, rebirth (with mods and the rewire technology you > can do really great things ), acid, drumstation, gigasampler, reality, > probe, cubase VST with rex files, reaktor, dreamstation, audiomulch, > hammerhead and moonfish, simsynth.... and these are just my preferred > ones... not that I use all them at the same time, in every project! > > lot of my work is done on my samplers too.. the communication between > software and hardware plays a big role in my production method: the dialogue > between PC, Yamaha A3k and Ensoniq ASR X is entirely digital, so I have > maximum creative flexibility. - slice - > >> hope this helps > >> ciao > >> leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 07:02:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32531; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:02:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:02:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3812E4D8.FCF253BE@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:52:08 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: sequencing external midi expanders Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HdDiS.0.Jc7.NNk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello loopland, hope this isn't too off-topic: my topic: i'm using the mpc2000 to control a multitimbral midi expander (roland jv 1010). i program "msb bank select" and "lsb bank select" controller change messages to select the sound bank and a "program change" to select the patch. these are located at the first note of the first bar. my problem: the actual sound of the patch gets cut off if a note occurs at the same point (i.e. the "one" of the first bar) as the controller/ program change messages. my question: how can i get around this? thanks, rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 07:03:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00668; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:03:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:03:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3812E4D3.BC599DCF@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:52:03 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: fruityloops References: <2.2.32.19991022123231.006f83a0@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"omZNh.0.kb7.CNk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks! rob leocavallo schrieb: > -slice- > I can suggest fruity loops, rebirth (with mods and the rewire technology you > can do really great things ), acid, drumstation, gigasampler, reality, > probe, cubase VST with rex files, reaktor, dreamstation, audiomulch, > hammerhead and moonfish, simsynth.... and these are just my preferred > ones... not that I use all them at the same time, in every project! > > lot of my work is done on my samplers too.. the communication between > software and hardware plays a big role in my production method: the dialogue > between PC, Yamaha A3k and Ensoniq ASR X is entirely digital, so I have > maximum creative flexibility. - slice - > >> hope this helps > >> ciao > >> leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 07:04:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00830; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:04:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:04:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: Foot controller Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:58:29 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001201bf1e0c$047ffa00$ee99b8d4@oemcomputer> Resent-Message-ID: <"PzTpg1.0.ge7.ROk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Ground Control can send program changes on 8 midi channels and can be configured to send some CC messages (& has 2 expression pedal inputs), but no note on/note off stuff. Apparently, the PMC10 is the one to have for maximum control. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ You wrote: I need an advice on foot controllers. I sold my PMC10 because it betrayed me so many times. Now iīm looking for one with similar features but reliable! is anybody outhere familiar with the ground control or the new one from lexicon?can they send program changes to different midi chanels and can i trigger synth chords with either one?which one is the best option outhere? their web pages are not so informative.My other question is when will they bring the EDP back in production? L.A. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 07:04:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00777; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:04:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:04:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3812E4E3.63CCB9F1@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:52:19 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: xbase09 comments References: <0.f1a2bd56.25421aa5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1dwoe.0.2d7.ZNk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com do you mean the jomox drum machine? table-top or rack version? rob Cornhilio2@aol.com schrieb: > > > what do you all think of the xbase09 i was thinking of buying one From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 08:06:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11130; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:06:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:06:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3812BC74.B982BF6E@magi.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:59:49 +0000 From: David Pattee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: sequencing external midi expanders References: <3812E2A1.BA60B19@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9depc2.0.hU2.nJl4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have that problem too using a computer sequencer. The only solution I found was to start my entire sequence one measure in keeping the first bar as a countoff to rest all the instruments. I've bought some midi files from TwiddlyBits and I've downloaded Midi files from the Net that all take advantage of MSB and LSB messages and they all seem to start one measure in. I think if you do this as well all your problems would go away. David Cummings wrote: > > hello loopland, hope this isn't too off-topic: > > my topic: > i'm using the mpc2000 to control a multitimbral midi expander (roland jv > 1010). i program "msb bank select" and "lsb bank select" controller > change messages to select the sound bank and a "program change" to > select the patch. these are located at the first note of the first bar. > > my problem: > the actual sound of the patch gets cut off if a note occurs at the same > point (i.e. the "one" of the first bar) as the controller/ program > change messages. > > my question: > how can i get around this? > > thanks, > rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 09:07:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22079; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:07:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:07:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38133C06.9E5E8F4D@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:04:06 -0800 From: Darrell Jones Reply-To: djones01@columbus.rr.com Organization: Intra Sites X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Foot controller References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"UNQ6M2.0.GA5.sEm4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The "All Access Midi Foot Controller" from Rocktron is the best unit. I'm using it with my guitar rack which is loaded with midi gear, (2) EPD's, Axon Midi guitar, Switchblade, ADA MB-1, all kind of floor effect pedals, it a great unit. http://www.rocktron.com/main.html DJones Future Perfect wrote: > The Ground Control can send program changes on 8 midi channels and can be > configured to send some CC messages (& has 2 expression pedal inputs), but > no note on/note off stuff. Apparently, the PMC10 is the one to have for > maximum control. > > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > 'Future Perfect' - art music > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > You wrote: > I need an advice on foot controllers. I sold my PMC10 because it betrayed me > so many times. Now iīm looking for one with similar features but reliable! > is anybody outhere familiar with the ground control or the new one from > lexicon?can they send program changes to different midi chanels and can i > trigger synth chords with either one?which one is the best option outhere? > their web pages are not so informative.My other question is when will they > bring the EDP back in production? > > L.A. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 11:57:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22010; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:57:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:57:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004801bf1e6a$c8f17fe0$cbf44cc1@bruce> From: "Bruce Comens" To: References: <0.172c8ddb.25434299@aol.com> Subject: R: Two looping questions: Italia / tablas URL/rack Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:56:56 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"m3xic2.0.Wr4.Zho4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Alas, I just missed that tour twice: first the Salerno concert and then the one back in Rome--same thing happened re Sainkho Namtchylak's Italia tour. Hard to get advance notice of events here.... David, I thought you'd started using the MPX G2? I ask because I've been thinking of switching from a bunch of pedals to a rack multi-effect unit when I return to the US, and that seems a promising unit....offers an extra looper, too--is the looper really equivalent to a Jamman? For all interested, here's a URL for the Ali Akbar College of Music Store: http://www.aacm.org/shop They have 3 different tabla machines, and other interesting gadgets. Ciao, Bruce Comens From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 11:58:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22172; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:58:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:58:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Prog/Psych/Fusion/Free Jazz in Houston area 10/31-11/5? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"vDuGm3.0.Eo4.Wfo4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll be in Houston from 10/31-11/5 and I was wondering if anyone in the area is aware of any interesting shows going on that week? -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 12:43:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31081; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:43:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:43:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:46:28 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: min'd picks and akai remix 16 Resent-Message-ID: <"-fqa81.0.VP7.SOp4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > i always write the mfger and they alwyas help. get any mag with an akai >ad Keyboard,mix eq, elect musician and look for an ad what does this mean? maybe I should not spend so much time to work out short and clear mails? ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 14:59:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26429; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:59:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:59:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:55:01 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Yamaha SU700 In-reply-to: <199910232005.QAA05229@rosy.yourwebhost.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"U9XuV1.0.wC6.TOr4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:57 PM -0700 10/23/99, Drew Skyfyre wrote: >Hi, > >Anyone here use a Yamaha SU700 ? Seems pretty powerful, though I've come >acroos reports of system freezes. Assuming that it has pretty comprehensive >MIDI implementation (which most Yamaha units seem to have), then under >control from a sequencer or MIDI foot control pedal board, it could be used >like an Echoplex. Plus the SCSI option means that loops can be saved >directly to hard disk/removable drives & there are resonant filters, 68MB >RAM, 3 effects processors, & a max of 64 voices, or in this case, actually >tracks. I watched a guy demo it at the NAMM show. (so I don't have any hands on use.) Unlike the echoplex or other real-time samplers, you can't sample something and immediately have it looping in rhythm. There are some steps in between, so it won't be seamless for a performance. (When I asked the guy doing the demo about this, he said, "why would anybody want to do that?" He was completely baffled, thought I was nuts for for wanting to sample stuff live...:-) So in that way, it is fundamentally different from echoplex, jamman, etc. It might not let you sample new stuff while it's playing back either, but I don't remember that point now. Better to compare to Roland SP808 or Akai MPC2000, other devices more oriented to live sequencing with precreated samples. Watching him use it, it seemed powerful but the interface seemed kind of clumsy and slow. But like I said, I didn't use it myself and this was almost a year ago. Seems to me that someone on the list here has/had one, maybe they can give a better explanation of the good points. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 15:15:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29878; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:15:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:15:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Cornhilio2@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6b8b426a.2544b3fa@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:11:54 EDT Subject: Re: xbase09 comments To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"8hlZU3.0.I47.Qer4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com table tob of course From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 15:39:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02423; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:39:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:39:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:35:04 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: jamming over the edp In-reply-to: <0.f3aeff74.2541c200@aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"IYpNl2.0.bT.H-r4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 6:34 AM -0700 10/22/99, Openjam99@aol.com wrote: >Hello, I have abandoned my 2 jammen for 1 EDP. I happy so far except one >thing. with the EDP how can I cruise through loop structures and solo over >them without automatically recording them? It normally works the way you want. You probably have a parameter set where you don't realize what it does. (sampler style, autorecord, etc.) You might want to start back at the default parameters. (hold the parameter button down while you power up to restore defaults, keep it held til it gets to the play state.) Set it to 3 loops with the MoreLoops parameter, and play around with that for a while. Once you get the hang of the more basic use, then try experimenting with some of the more advanced parameters. >Example: 3 loops. On the fly I can record 1-2-3 but when I get back to 1 or 2 >the EDP wants to record. I want it to simply play and allow me to add texture >when I build up another jam. do you mean it is overdubbing always, or is recording a new loop? If it is overdubbing, you may have it in Delay mode. The it will act like a delay where the input is always open and audio is always being fed into the delay line. Check the Loop/Delay parameter, make sure it is in Loop. (which is the default, so it will be Loop if you reset the parameters.) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 15:43:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03543; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:43:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:43:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:25:29 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"0fMPX3.0.Gr7.9rr4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It was for sale in europe before CE went into effect. That was a few years ago, though. kim At 1:23 PM -0700 10/22/99, Martin Shellard wrote: >The original EDP has CE certification and so has never been sold in England >afaik. I'd say your chance of finding one second hand/imported are slim. >Martin Shellard > > >---------- >>From: igames@zol.co.zw >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: EDP >>Date: Fri, Oct 22, 1999, 6:42 pm >> > >> Anyone know where I can find an EDP in England? Situation complicated as >> I will only be there for one week later this year. Currently reside in >> Zimbabwe/Botswana. ....Ian ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 16:43:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17251; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:43:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:43:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991024163157.007a8100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:31:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Yamaha SU700 In-Reply-To: References: <199910232005.QAA05229@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"txTHL.0.5h3.iqs4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:55 AM 10/24/99 -0700, you wrote: ...(When I asked the >guy doing the demo about this, he said, "why would anybody want to do >that?" He was completely baffled, thought I was nuts for for wanting to >sample stuff live...:-) "There's a very fine line between clever and stupid." - Spinal Tarp's Nigel Tufnell They said Van Gogh was nuts, too... Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 17:17:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24178; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:17:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:17:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:10:40 -0700 From: "mark givens" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: min'd picks and akai remix 16 X-Sender-Ip: 4.54.50.31 Organization: iVillage Free Email (http://fe-mail.ivillage.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SOhnF2.0.Jc5.BOt4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com write the manufacturer they will help.Look up an ad im mags like MIX,keyboard",EQ and Musician for ads. they will have adresses and phone numbers. -- On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:46:28 Matthias Grob wrote: >> i always write the mfger and they alwyas help. get any mag with an akai >>ad Keyboard,mix eq, elect musician and look for an ad > >what does this mean? >maybe I should not spend so much time to work out short and clear mails? > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > > -- Join the most exciting community of women on the web! iVillage.com's FREE membership gets you private email, your own home page, special discounts and sweepstakes, and dozens of problem-solving tools. http://www.ivillage.com/frame/join_email.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 17:47:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30322; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:47:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:47:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Cornhilio2@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f9ed58fe.2544d6b5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:40:05 EDT Subject: "WARNING" jASKIN00 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"lIrD13.0.B77.1qt4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS THINGS THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST LETTING YOU PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 18:23:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05180; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:23:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:23:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3813822F.21E757BC@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:03:27 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: xbase09 comments References: <0.6b8b426a.2544b3fa@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4WV61.0.s01.YNu4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ok, the table top version i do know. i asked because there is also a rack version which i've never used. plusses: the jomox is a great sounding TRUE analog drum machine. the bass drum sound is very impressive and flexible. it's hard to describe the physicality of the sound until you experience it. the thing is also built fairly robustly, it can take a bit of a beating. negatives: the timing isn't very stable - you definitely need to slave it to a more solid sequencer. it's an old fashiioned step sequencer, you know one bar of sixteen notes. well i lied, you actually can program over several bars but this gets a little too "non-intuitive" for my tastes. hope to have helped, rob Cornhilio2@aol.com schrieb: > > > table tob of course From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 18:23:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05179; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:23:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:23:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3813847B.2DEEA2CC@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:13:15 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: sequencing external midi expanders References: <3812E2A1.BA60B19@compuserve.com> <3812BC74.B982BF6E@magi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Pgnzk.0.W11.hNu4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks david, that seems to be the only way around the problem. i finally learned how to dump the various sysex patch settings (midi parts) back into the sequencer. the sysex messages seem to function even better than msb & lsb messages with the roland jv-1010. i tried putting all of the sysex in a short bar of a single 1/4 note and this works fine. thanks, rob David Pattee wrote: > > > I have that problem too using a computer sequencer. The only solution I > found was to start my entire sequence one measure in keeping the first > bar as a countoff to rest all the instruments. I've bought some midi > files from TwiddlyBits and I've downloaded Midi files from the Net that > all take advantage of MSB and LSB messages and they all seem to start > one measure in. > > I think if you do this as well all your problems would go away. > > David > > Cummings wrote: > > > > hello loopland, hope this isn't too off-topic: > > > > my topic: > > i'm using the mpc2000 to control a multitimbral midi expander (roland jv > > 1010). i program "msb bank select" and "lsb bank select" controller > > change messages to select the sound bank and a "program change" to > > select the patch. these are located at the first note of the first bar. > > > > my problem: > > the actual sound of the patch gets cut off if a note occurs at the same > > point (i.e. the "one" of the first bar) as the controller/ program > > change messages. > > > > my question: > > how can i get around this? > > > > thanks, > > rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 19:32:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19223; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:32:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:32:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201bf1e77$85acd060$cd56883e@colins-gear> From: "Colin Seddon" To: Subject: Oberheim Echoplex Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 00:17:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A2_01BF1E7E.5AEA99A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ws7Xb2.0.a94.VIv4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A2_01BF1E7E.5AEA99A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I've only just subscribed: I borrowed a JamMan recently and had a great time, looping voice and = percussion and bouzouki as an accompaniment to Vayu Naidu's rendition of = the story of The Ramayana. I decided that I'd like to buy one and discovered that they're no longer = made. I hear that the Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro is loads better anyway. Anyone out there with any advice on what this here novice looper should = look to buy? And in the meantime, anyone out there got an Echoplex to sell? Cheers - Colin ------=_NextPart_000_01A2_01BF1E7E.5AEA99A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I've only just subscribed:
 
I borrowed a JamMan recently and had a great time, = looping=20 voice and percussion and bouzouki as an accompaniment to Vayu Naidu's = rendition=20 of the story of The Ramayana.
 
I decided that I'd like to buy one and discovered = that they're=20 no longer made.
I hear that the Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro is = loads better=20 anyway.
 
Anyone out there with any advice on what this here = novice=20 looper should look to buy?
 
And in the meantime,  anyone out there got an = Echoplex to=20 sell?
 
Cheers  - Colin
------=_NextPart_000_01A2_01BF1E7E.5AEA99A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 20:13:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28278; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:13:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:13:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2274fd12.2544f8fb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:06:19 EDT Subject: zoom2100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"HN7c31.0.ub6.2zv4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com not to beat a dead horse.....i guess live ones are better.....but, the up to 6 sec delay on this puppie is a ton of fun.....i have been forgetting to use the rang at times, and what a joy to send pre-made loops to the rang......it seems everyone is on the band wagon and are all dumping these for $99.00......and it truely blows my mind, that i can do so many things to a sound with this inexpensive little box.........so for collin and all them folks waitin for the edp or the rang, the zoom 2100 is a quick loopin fix...........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 20:36:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00968; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:36:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:36:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 01:26:37 +0000 Subject: Re: EDP From: "Martin Shellard" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"oJooX1.0.Ix7.uKw4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I humbly bow to your great knowledge Kim : ) I have never seen one advertised in the UK nor do I know of anyone here owning one. Martin Shellard > It was for sale in europe before CE went into effect. That was a few years > ago, though. > > kim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:19:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22506; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:19:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:19:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: <0.fbf0f5bd.25451553@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:07:15 EDT Subject: Re: zoom2100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"6atYO1.0.5v4.Ukx4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I agree that the lower end loopers are dumped on a lot here. but some of the lower end stuff can offer up a lot of fun and very quick and simple noise making possibilities at an affordable price...the zoom stuff is not bad at all. I think I'm gonna get another zoom 508 to use with the headrush. JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:19:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22515; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:19:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:19:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1ee3dc74.254514ba@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:04:42 EDT Subject: Re: R: Two looping questions: Italia / tablas URL/rack To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"0My_m.0.dh4.mhx4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com bruce, hey. >David, I thought you'd started using the MPX G2? i did: i was: i had. pretty cool box: couldn't replace my travel-setup (previously listed, this week), though, and not hairy enough to replace my direct-to-tape rig. (which is: rivera m100 head-ada ampulator, w/an ada microcab2 for the effects mixer). i *really* don't like to own gear that isn't in regular use. >I ask because I've been >thinking of switching from a bunch of pedals to a rack >multi-effect unit when I return to >the US, and that seems a promising unit....offers an >extra looper, too-- my advice: try it!: the only way for you to know. >is the looper really equivalent to a Jamman? inna word: no. and: no other hardware looper is equivalent to an EDP. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:29:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25544; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:29:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:29:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.e6dad576.25451971@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:24:49 EDT Subject: Re: Yamaha SU700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"PfdXJ.0.jw5.Z-x4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com kim, drew et al, > >Drew Skyfyre wrote: > >Anyone here use a Yamaha SU700 ? Seems pretty powerful, though I've come > >acroos reports of system freezes. Assuming that it has pretty comprehensive > >MIDI implementation (which most Yamaha units seem to have), then under > >control from a sequencer or MIDI foot control pedal board, it could be used > >like an Echoplex. Plus the SCSI option means that loops can be saved > >directly to hard disk/removable drives & there are resonant filters, 68MB > >RAM, 3 effects processors, & a max of 64 voices, or in this case, actually > >tracks. kim replied: > I watched a guy demo it at the NAMM show. (so I don't have any hands on > use.) Unlike the echoplex or other real-time samplers, you can't sample > something and immediately have it looping in rhythm. There are some steps > in between, so it won't be seamless for a performance. right: its not. i had one of these for a week or so: this box is clearly *not* performance oriented, in regards to doing any kinda 'live' sampling. >(When I asked the > guy doing the demo about this, he said, "why would anybody want to do > that?" He was completely baffled, thought I was nuts for for wanting to > sample stuff live...:-) So in that way, it is fundamentally different > from echoplex, jamman, etc. It might not let you sample new stuff while > it's playing back either, but I don't remember that point now. Better to > compare to Roland SP808 or Akai MPC2000, other devices more oriented to > live sequencing with precreated samples. Watching him use it, it seemed > powerful but the interface seemed kind of clumsy and slow. i found the user interface architecture to be kinda: how can i say this?, uhhh..... opaque. cool sound manipulation possibilities, though, from an 'after-the-fact' perspective. >But like I said, > I didn't use it myself and this was almost a year ago. Seems to me that > someone on the list here has/had one, maybe they can give a better > explanation of the good points. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:29:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25545; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:29:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:29:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Best Hardware Looper! Resent-Message-ID: <"5Q07s3.0.Ks5.Qzx4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >no other hardware looper is equivalent to an EDP. >best, >dt Is it just me, or do we have a great sales pitch for the new version of the Loop software? In total agreement, Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:33:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26374; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:33:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:33:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a601bf1e90$6a2cad60$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <0.fbf0f5bd.25451553@aol.com> Subject: Re: zoom2100 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:26:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"duk_T1.0.XA6.42y4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I agree; I've been using a DOD DFX 94 pedal and after 3 years, I'm still finding new ways to make it work. Best $90 I've ever spent! I am, however, hoping to own a nice EDP by the end of the year... Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 10:07 PM Subject: Re: zoom2100 > I agree that the lower end loopers are dumped on a lot here. but some of the > lower end stuff can offer up a lot of fun and very quick and simple noise > making possibilities at an affordable price...the zoom stuff is not bad at > all. I think I'm gonna get another zoom 508 to use with the headrush. > > JP > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:34:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26845; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:34:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:34:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910250230.TAA01666@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:31:07 -0400 Subject: MIDI looper? From: "Tiktok World HQ" To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dIq5B1.0.pL6.i3y4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 22:46:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA30022; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:46:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:46:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003101bf1e92$c03cece0$964badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:43:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"Z57km.0.947.uDy4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Akai made two interesting units. An arpeggiator and a MIDI delay. They come up for sale all the time for minimum bux on eBay and elsewhere. Don't know a lot about them, but they sound like they might be worth looking into. Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tiktok World HQ To: Looper's Delight Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 10:36 PM Subject: MIDI looper? >Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can >act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? > >Travis Hartnett > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 23:12:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03532; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:12:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:12:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:07:01 EDT Subject: Re: MIDI looper? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"DvDF03.0.qa.Gcy4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio?<< I used to use the TR-909 for exactly that for quite a few years, but since it's now gone (sold), I use a Quasimid Sirius and a Roland JX-305. The Sirius even loops it's sinc signal across the lites ala 909 which is great onstage. I believe there are several other drum machines and sequencers that have the same capabilities, albeit that they probably "do it" in different ways. BTW: I use Korg modules driven by my looping sequencers--two X5DR's and a NS5R. On the 909, I would first, set my tempo, then set the output midi channel to 1. Pick a drum sound on the 909, pick a sound on the module (on the correct channel) and start the loop. When I had that sound looping to my satisfaction (usually a drum or bass line, occassionally an ambient textured sound) then layer something over that with my EDP. Limited to one channel on the 909, however. With the new stuff, you can have 7, 8, or 16 channels continuing to loop. I think the Quasimidi 309 and Sirius have the greatest capabilities for this. But I believe the Roland MC-303, MC-505 and JX-305 are damn good at it too. I now play these much more sophisticated 'midi loopers' with two Akai Headrushes thru a 24 channel mixing board (Spirit) adding guitar and vocal loops to the mash (as in home made whiskey). Bill "hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 24 23:29:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07176; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:29:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:29:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000801bf1e98$e6717240$964badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:27:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"a9xe5.0.eY1.Bty4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I used to use the TR-505, 626 and 707 for looping/sequencing too. Whats neat about the 626 and 707 is that you can send the tape sync through a delay and to delay the sync tone. The same technique can be used with all the audio outs too, if you use them to trigger older pre-midi analog gear. I daisy chain the tape sync from the 626 through 7 Digitech RDS's and finally send it straight into an MC-202 for even more flat out wackiness. There's a lot you can do with simple means. - Larry - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Hawkeye255@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, October 24, 1999 11:15 PM Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >>>Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can >act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio?<< > > I used to use the TR-909 for exactly that for quite a few years, but >since it's now gone (sold), I use a Quasimid Sirius and a Roland JX-305. >The Sirius even loops it's sinc signal across the lites ala 909 which is >great onstage. I believe there are several other drum machines and >sequencers that have the same capabilities, albeit that they probably "do it" >in different ways. BTW: I use Korg modules driven by my looping >sequencers--two X5DR's and a NS5R. > On the 909, I would first, set my tempo, then set the output midi >channel to 1. Pick a drum sound on the 909, pick a sound on the module (on >the correct channel) and start the loop. When I had that sound looping to my >satisfaction (usually a drum or bass line, occassionally an ambient textured >sound) then layer something over that with my EDP. Limited to one channel on >the 909, however. > With the new stuff, you can have 7, 8, or 16 channels continuing to >loop. I think the Quasimidi 309 and Sirius have the greatest capabilities >for this. But I believe the Roland MC-303, MC-505 and JX-305 are damn good >at it too. I now play these much more sophisticated 'midi loopers' with two >Akai Headrushes thru a 24 channel mixing board (Spirit) adding guitar and >vocal loops to the mash (as in home made whiskey). > > Bill "hawkeye" > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 02:02:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10378; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:02:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:02:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004201bf1eab$0b902460$b2c5aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <0.3acd4ec1.2542db42@aol.com> Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 22:37:33 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"P7Mvw3.0.Qg1.yt-4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have owned a Mark II and Mark III head and am the current owner of a DC 5 head. The differences between the Mark II and III (for that matter the Mark IV as well) is the amount of options. The Mark II was rather simple for dialing in tone. The Mark III, with its supposed 3 channel option, took me a bit more time to find the tones I was looking for. Being a former "plexi" Marshall owner, I was a bit overwhelmed at the tonal possibilities that the Mark III offered. The Mark IV was something I didn't feel compelled to try because of the additional options it offered over the Mark III. However, I've gotten over that and have grown to love and rely on the options that my current DC 5 set-up gives me. The constant qualities that have kept me a loyal Boogie owner for 15 years is the consistently great tone and the durability. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 2:34 AM Subject: re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps > Loopers, > > Anyone have any opinions on the Mesa Boogie "Mark" amps? Is the Mark III > better than the Mark IV? What about the Mark I? Is one considered more > "classic" than another? Does it matter? Does anything matter? Is there a god? > Anyone? > > David > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 03:30:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25922; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:30:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:30:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991025072557.8812.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.90.217.36] From: "chalchiuhtlicue" To: Subject: hello Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:29:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"zR56D2.0.866.-O05u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello, I am a guitarist in the austin area looking for other musicians to jam / write / record / perform with. I and a drummer currently rent lockout space in south austin. we are playing loud hardcore / heavy music in the godsmack / static x / voivod / neurosis / white zombie vein. we are looking for a couple more musicians (vocalist, bass player, sampler/keyboardist, 2nd guitarist, etc.) to complete our band. I have decent equipment (jackson & strat, roland vg8ex, digitech rp7, fender rock pro stack, and a boomerang pedal). we also have an 8-track hard disk recorder & a loaded computer (500 mhz, 384 megs ram, ACID Pro, Cakewalk Pro, et. al.) for recording & sampling. we have a DAT for final mixdowns & live playback. I design & program web sites for money and will be providing a pro web site for us as soon as we get our sound / image together. this site was recommended to me by someone at a local music store whom I was asking about devices for looping guitar samples via MIDI. he recommended this list and the echoplex digital pro to me. I understand they're not on the market right now but as soon as they become available I am interested in purchasing two of them and a MIDI sequencer. since I'm doing music just about full-time right now, I am available to rehearse pretty-much 24/7. If you like heavy music and are interested in coming and auditioning / jamming / hanging out with us some time, let me know. our short-term goal is to have a back-room-ready set in the next six months. we are writing original material right now but welcome new input. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 03:49:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA29679; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:49:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:49:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: spat@visi.com Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991025073255.006ca5a8@pop.visi.com> X-Sender: spat@pop.visi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 02:32:55 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 Resent-Message-ID: <"cZlOp.0.XQ6.7V05u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cornhilio2 wrote: >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS THINGS >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST LETTING YOU >PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS >YOU CAN YES I KNOW HE BORROW MY PEAVEY T-30 AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK STEVE From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 06:59:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28965; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:59:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:59:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991025063923.007aad30@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:39:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: MIDI looper? In-Reply-To: <003101bf1e92$c03cece0$964badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"OSTNc.0.QP6.AF35u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not sure if it's still there, but Daddy's Junky Music had an Akai MIDI Delay for extremely cheap the other day. I saw it in the Portsmouth NH store, but their whole inventory is available online at Used Gear By Mail . Or, as Larry points out, they come up for sale very often... Tim At 10:43 PM 10/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >Akai made two interesting units. An arpeggiator and a MIDI delay. >They come up for sale all the time for minimum bux on eBay and >elsewhere. > Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 07:13:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31877; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:13:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:13:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <0.8af5f7d9.254592f3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:03:15 EDT Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"EcGHQ2.0.sJ7.ga35u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The constant qualities that have kept me a loyal Boogie owner for 15 years is the consistently great tone and the durability. what about the intense weight and high prices? those are the qualities that come to my mind when i think of mesa boogie. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 07:39:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA04148; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:39:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:39:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.fbf0f5bd.25451553@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 07:37:28 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: zoom2100 Resent-Message-ID: <"M0gKI.0.cx.F245u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com JP, just wondering why would you want a 508 rather than a 2100. The price must be the same and the 2100 has 50% more delay time, better specs, and does a bunch of other stuff if you want it to. Size? >I agree that the lower end loopers are dumped on a lot here. but some of the >lower end stuff can offer up a lot of fun and very quick and simple noise >making possibilities at an affordable price...the zoom stuff is not bad at >all. I think I'm gonna get another zoom 508 to use with the headrush. > >JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 09:50:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA32086; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:50:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:50:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: <0.fbf2feaf.2545b718@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:37:28 EDT Subject: Re: zoom2100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"PPiUN3.0._37.Mr55u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Size matters and the fact that i loved the 508. The 508 love i have is not for its looping capabilities cause it does not loop...it gives delays that have a long fade out that appear to be loops and its patch cut off was seamless and not all of a sudden unless u wanted it to be. the 508 gave me great at my fingertips, knobless delay patches a la "run like hell" or the edge in a programable, punchable way quick and easy. combined with the stuff i already have: gt-3, the zoom 503 and the 505 with zoom volume/expression pedal and a headrush, I dont really need the 2100. I typically will only use the gt-3, headrush and gr-30 and I also have an old rackmount boss de-200 i use evry now and then on A/B patches. I dont use midi for looping on stage though I do sometimes have my gr-30 connected to my ASR 10 sampler and an Emu Morpheus sometimes. I'll use the morpheus for solo guitar stuff. but im not big on syncing my loops to midi time. I always tend to do everything loopwise in realtime but usually not synced to midi. in my case the loops that are synced to midi arent realy loops tho...they are sequences but nothing realtime and frankly for the dancier stuff i tend to just push the buttons or deliberately not have non rhythmic loops play in any particular time...and the sequenced stuff that is looped outside of the rhythmic stuff underneath is samples of my guitar rig that have been treated in sound forge 4.5 and bounced into an sp202 and then sequenced using cakewalk and bounced back into the ASR 10's sequencer. I never got the 2100 cause i had the 505, then 508 and 503 and found pretty much everything that was funky about zooms in those products. then i bought other stuff and im happy with the setup i presently use. I try to only get what i'm actually gonna use a lof of over time. JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 09:59:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01470; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:59:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:59:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.d5c3bb10.2545b7e6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:40:54 EDT Subject: Re: RE: Foot controller To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"8qSKL2.0.YI7.Pu55u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com check out a Midi-Mitigator RFC-1... dissicult to find but by far the most fully implemented controller available... any midi message on any channel seq start-stop note on-note off (as many as you want simultaneously) with velocity info "keyboard" mode allows you to trigger notes while holding down a switch- note off is immediate on letting up the switch (cool!) one cv input best,\ RA From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 10:03:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02827; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:03:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:03:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901bf1eed$198210a0$7bcf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: <199910250230.TAA01666@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:30:24 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"xnS6_2.0.uy6.8o55u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Travis Hartnett wrote: > Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can > act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? I have an old Alesis MMT8 that would be good for this. Its in the same slant-front case as the now-venerable Alesis drum machines of the same era (HR-16 I think.) The unit is set up to have eight "tracks," with each track having a button on the front panel. The machine also has a loop mode where all eight tracks just keep looping (they all have to be the same length though.) So you could have eight MIDI loops running, and use the front panel buttons to select or mute tracks accordingly. And the best part, they aren't too hard to find, and they sell used for about $150. -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 10:35:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09930; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:35:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:35:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9163@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Introduction & Headrush Question Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:19:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"pJPAj3.0.td1.6S65u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Bill, Let me know if you find a replacement switch at RS. I have a HR and would like to replace my siwtches as well !! Thanks Gary > ---------- > From: Hawkeye255@aol.com[SMTP:Hawkeye255@aol.com] > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 4:14 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Introduction & Headrush Question > > << As sort of a followup to my question about muffling the noise of these > big > clunky switches (EH stuff, too), does anyone know of a quieter alternative > > that can be swapped in without too much modification? >> > > I'll go to Radio Shack tomorrow and see if they have something that might > work. Should be simple really. I'm only bothered by the switches when > using > a mic. Then I get synced 'clicks'. Hasn't bothered me too much, but we > all > do things differently... > > > Bill "Hawkeye" > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 11:32:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24322; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:32:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:32:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991025150239.21486.rocketmail@web204.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: m1cha3l@earthlink.net Subject: guitar strings To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"0Rd6S2.0.3v3.T275u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey - I recently switched to 10's from 11's 'cause my wrist was bothering me (it's getting better, I think - thanks again to all who responded). In the week or 2 since I switched though, I've broken strings twice. I NEVER broke 11's and I'm not really playing that hard. My feeling is that D'Addario 10's are really cheap, since that's what most people play, and they take a bit more care with the 11's (or a bit less with the 10's). I broke a D string on the 10's! Any thoughts on this? Anyone have better strings to recommend, or am I going to end up back with 11's again? Thanks, MT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 12:00:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31472; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:00:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:00:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910251510.IAA16467@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:10:05 -0500 Subject: Re: MIDI looper? From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"d2_PN3.0.6Y4.2C75u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I guess I should clarify--what I want is a MIDI sequencer that emulates a long digital delay, in that repeats can be set to decrease in volume. TH ---------- >From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 8:30 AM > > > Travis Hartnett wrote: >> Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can >> act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? > > I have an old Alesis MMT8 that would be good for this. Its in the same > slant-front case as the now-venerable Alesis drum machines of the same era > (HR-16 I think.) > > The unit is set up to have eight "tracks," with each track having a button > on the front panel. The machine also has a loop mode where all eight tracks > just keep looping (they all have to be the same length though.) So you could > have eight MIDI loops running, and use the front panel buttons to select or > mute tracks accordingly. > > And the best part, they aren't too hard to find, and they sell used for > about $150. > > -- Mango -- > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 12:00:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31404; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:00:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:00:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910251517.IAA17821@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:17:50 -0500 Subject: FS: Digitech PDS 8000 (8 second pedal delay, Harmony Central) From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eERKH3.0.H_4.IJ75u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Digitech PDS 8000 "Echo Plus" Asking Price: US$200 Condition: Good Age: N/A Description: Up to 8 seconds of delay with infinite repeat. This is the same pedal used by Bill frisell. Works great. Missing battery cover. Will consider trading for a Lexicon Pedalman with 32 second upgrade, or a Hughes & Kettener Tube Rotosphere. Call me at home at (513)651-5128. Seller: Jack Broad, (513)651-5128 E-mail: jbroad@ibm.net (Profile) Location: CINCINNATI, OH Post Date: 10/23/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 12:05:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00353; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:05:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:05:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7B1@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: RE: Foot controller Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:15:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"ISZNy.0.Nv4.HH75u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Hey, the midimitgator, that's what I use. It's really great. I love it. What happened to lake butler the makers of the rfc-1? Did they go under. They also made a nother pedal that had 4 ev pedals, no? Denis denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtgutiar.com check out a Midi-Mitigator RFC-1.. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 12:18:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04133; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:18:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:18:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38147E39.B737B795@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:58:49 -0700 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 References: <1.5.4.32.19991025073255.006ca5a8@pop.visi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"50iHR1.0.8c7.Hv75u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com spat@visi.com wrote: > > Cornhilio2 wrote: > >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS THINGS > >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST LETTING YOU > >PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS > >YOU CAN > > YES I KNOW HE BORROW MY PEAVEY T-30 AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK > > STEVE HE MEAN TOO HE BEAT HIS DOG ON CHRISTMAS AND NEVER REWINDED THE TAPE FROM BLOCKBUSTER HE HAS THE KOODIES From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 12:45:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11090; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:45:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:45:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C7B6@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: m1cha3l@earthlink.net, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: guitar strings Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:14:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"7Ocvq3.0.rL1.EH85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have been playing .14's for the last couple years. I cannot recommend using heavier strings strong enough. I intend to move up as my hands get stronger. Then I will start raising the action. Tone for days, Loopers. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: M T [SMTP:ylpunk@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:03 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: guitar strings > > > Hey - > > I recently switched to 10's from 11's 'cause my wrist was bothering me > (it's > getting better, I think - thanks again to all who responded). In the week > or 2 > since I switched though, I've broken strings twice. I NEVER broke 11's > and I'm > not really playing that hard. My feeling is that D'Addario 10's are > really > cheap, since that's what most people play, and they take a bit more care > with > the 11's (or a bit less with the 10's). I broke a D string on the 10's! > > Any thoughts on this? Anyone have better strings to recommend, or am I > going > to end up back with 11's again? > > Thanks, > > MT > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 12:59:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14853; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:59:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:59:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD14@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: vibrato tremolo (off-topic) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:33:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"U-7Sk1.0.222.4Q85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Some pedals (e.g. Rocktron's Purple Haze) have both distortion and > phase-shifting circuitry, which can modulate kind of like a vibrato, but > they're not. > And they're not calling it a tremolo, either. > ** i was under the impression that this was a fuzz with both lower and higher octaves, no way affiliated with trem or vibrato. > Then there are the Lovetone Doppelganger, the Uni-Vibe, the RotoVibe, and > so forth... Leslies, even, taking advantage of the Doppler effect. But > none > of these say "tremolo" on 'em. > ** the doppelganger is a dual oscillator phase shifter which can do some vibrato stuff. lovetone also made the wobulator which was their dual-oscillator trem. other uni-vibe clones would be the prescription electronics vibe unit, and the fulltone deja vibe (both version 1 and 2). most of these will say that they're chorus/vibrato pedals, not trem (and they do vibrato, not trem). fulltone makes a trem (supa-trem) which is really good, presc. elec. makes the throb (also pretty cool). stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 13:01:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15443; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:01:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:01:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.459c0011.2545e011@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:32:17 EDT Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"jx6oj.0.0_1.HP85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com you cant put a high enough price on weight:) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 13:03:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16482; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:03:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:03:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:36:17 -0400 Subject: strings From: "klowy@wrinklemuzik" To: , Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XdnTq1.0.tL2.mT85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i've been using elixir strings for a while (10's) and have yet to break a string. they're expensive, but i think they last longer and are definitely stronger. also use them on my acoustic guitars (10's again) and they really hold up (both 6 & 1q2 string guitars). and i use some odd tunings. klowy "ignorance of your own culture is not considered cool" the residents From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 13:04:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16540; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:04:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:04:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009401bf1f08$f7023660$6e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:49:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"jhIHF3.0.j-2.bd85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have you checked out the Akai MIDI delay? - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:09 PM Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >I guess I should clarify--what I want is a MIDI sequencer that emulates a >long digital delay, in that repeats can be set to decrease in volume. > >TH > >---------- >>From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >>Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 8:30 AM >> > >> >> Travis Hartnett wrote: >>> Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can >>> act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? >> >> I have an old Alesis MMT8 that would be good for this. Its in the same >> slant-front case as the now-venerable Alesis drum machines of the same era >> (HR-16 I think.) >> >> The unit is set up to have eight "tracks," with each track having a button >> on the front panel. The machine also has a loop mode where all eight tracks >> just keep looping (they all have to be the same length though.) So you could >> have eight MIDI loops running, and use the front panel buttons to select or >> mute tracks accordingly. >> >> And the best part, they aren't too hard to find, and they sell used for >> about $150. >> >> -- Mango -- >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 13:07:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17422; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:07:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:07:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a101bf1f09$80106cb0$6e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: FS: Digitech RDS 8000 8-sec Delay Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 12:53:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"SOf873.0.-63.8h85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com **** DO NOT EMAIL ME ***** Digitech RDS 8000 8-sec Delay : $200 + shipping Good condition. Contact Howelin@aol.com - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 13:05:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16899; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:05:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:05:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:39:47 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 In-Reply-To: <38147E39.B737B795@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"HOF7f2.0.dM2.5U85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: |spat@visi.com wrote: |> |> Cornhilio2 wrote: |> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS THINGS |> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST LETTING YOU |> >PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS |> >YOU CAN |> |> YES I KNOW HE BORROW MY PEAVEY T-30 AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK |> |> STEVE | |HE MEAN TOO HE BEAT HIS DOG ON CHRISTMAS AND NEVER REWINDED THE TAPE |FROM BLOCKBUSTER HE HAS THE KOODIES | | _______________________________________________________________________ James R. Pearce jamesrp@statenet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 13:26:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22594; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:26:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:26:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003601bf1f0a$e4619e40$1216a5ce@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Don Preston Live! Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:03:35 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"oAI27.0.k44.os85u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This note passed to me just now! Don Preston of our beloved Mothers of Invention is performing October 27th and 28th (this Wed. and Thurs.) at the DOWNTOWN PLAYHOUSE 121 S. VIGNES LA, between 1st and 2nd streets 8 pm. Oct. 27th it's with ART JARVINEN on METAL PERCUSSION and KEN ROSSER on ALTERED GUITAR. On the 28th it's with BUNK GARDNER - woodwinds "THE DON AND BUNK SHOW" ..lots of Zappa material. Don and Bunk played together at Lumpy Gravy some time ago, with my pals the Oil Junkys. What fun! If I can secure a ride or have a newer car by that time I'm going, that's fer damn sure. Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 14:19:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03770; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:19:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:19:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:58:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 In-Reply-To: <38147E39.B737B795@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"lZHfS3.0.8U7.qf95u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: > spat@visi.com wrote: > > > > Cornhilio2 wrote: > > >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS THINGS > > >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST LETTING YOU > > >PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS > > >YOU CAN > > > > YES I KNOW HE BORROW MY PEAVEY T-30 AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK > > > > STEVE > > HE MEAN TOO HE BEAT HIS DOG ON CHRISTMAS AND NEVER REWINDED THE TAPE > FROM BLOCKBUSTER HE HAS THE KOODIES Are these lyrics from the new Yes album? -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 14:17:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03268; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:17:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:17:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001b01bf1f0e$a66344f0$6e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: , Subject: Re: guitar strings Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:30:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"KHd0f3.0.ym5.AE95u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jazz gauges and wound Gs are a must. I've been using 14s for high E for years, too! BE CAREFUL: some necks cannot withstand the extra tension requirements. Check first, unless you want to snap you favorite guitar's neck. (Use heavy cheapo guitars! THE BEST) FYI -for anyone familiar with Sonic Youth, they ALWAYS use heavy gauge strings. That's how they get those powerful overtones and extremely clear tone. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: bedwellm@wellsfargo.com To: m1cha3l@earthlink.net ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 1:00 PM Subject: RE: guitar strings >I have been playing .14's for the last couple years. I cannot recommend >using heavier strings strong enough. I intend to move up as my hands get >stronger. Then I will start raising the action. >Tone for days, Loopers. > > Micah > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: M T [SMTP:ylpunk@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:03 AM >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Subject: guitar strings >> >> >> Hey - >> >> I recently switched to 10's from 11's 'cause my wrist was bothering me >> (it's >> getting better, I think - thanks again to all who responded). In the week >> or 2 >> since I switched though, I've broken strings twice. I NEVER broke 11's >> and I'm >> not really playing that hard. My feeling is that D'Addario 10's are >> really >> cheap, since that's what most people play, and they take a bit more care >> with >> the 11's (or a bit less with the 10's). I broke a D string on the 10's! >> >> Any thoughts on this? Anyone have better strings to recommend, or am I >> going >> to end up back with 11's again? >> >> Thanks, >> >> MT >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 14:57:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12498; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:57:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:57:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003701bf1f16$45d82d00$becf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: <199910251510.IAA16467@scv1.apple.com> Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:25:04 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"CVOR03.0.DU1.V6A5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Travis Hartnett: > I guess I should clarify--what I want is a MIDI sequencer that emulates a > long digital delay, in that repeats can be set to decrease in volume. Hmmm, if you are PC-enabled (and I don't mean politically correct) you might want to check out... http://midiworld.com/AuReality/software/building_blocks/index.htm -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 15:24:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19802; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:24:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:24:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7BF@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , ylpunk@yahoo.com Subject: RE: strings Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:35:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"zGNRJ1.0.oo1.iCA5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Yes, Elixir strings are great. I used to have to change a set of strings after 3- days. Now I can keep elixir's on for about 2 weeks and you get a real smooth sound with them. In fact, after switching to them I eventually got an endorsement with them. Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtgutiar.com -----Original Message----- From: klowy@wrinklemuzik [mailto:klowy@wrinklemuzik.com] Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 11:36 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; ylpunk@yahoo.com Subject: strings i've been using elixir strings for a while (10's) and have yet to break a string. they're expensive, but i think they last longer and are definitely stronger. also use them on my acoustic guitars (10's again) and they really hold up (both 6 & 1q2 string guitars). and i use some odd tunings. klowy "ignorance of your own culture is not considered cool" the residents From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 15:34:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21922; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:34:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:34:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C7C1@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: guitar strings Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:50:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"3qmug1.0.Gv2.8TA5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, I had my guitar shop (Subway Guitars in Berkeley, CA.) do the work. Intonation is great, and the neck is still intact. Micah Bedwell Technical Analyst, Level 3 Private Client Services Pager: 800.800.9456 Office: 415.222.3686 > -----Original Message----- > From: L Tremblay [SMTP:ltct@concentric.net] > Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:31 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; m1cha3l@earthlink.net > Subject: Re: guitar strings > > Jazz gauges and wound Gs are a must. I've been using 14s for high E > for years, too! BE CAREFUL: some necks cannot withstand the extra > tension requirements. Check first, unless you want to snap you > favorite guitar's neck. (Use heavy cheapo guitars! THE BEST) > > FYI -for anyone familiar with Sonic Youth, they ALWAYS use heavy gauge > strings. That's how they get those powerful overtones and extremely > clear tone. > > - Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedwellm@wellsfargo.com > To: m1cha3l@earthlink.net ; > Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 1:00 PM > Subject: RE: guitar strings > > > >I have been playing .14's for the last couple years. I cannot recommend > >using heavier strings strong enough. I intend to move up as my hands get > >stronger. Then I will start raising the action. > >Tone for days, Loopers. > > > > Micah > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: M T [SMTP:ylpunk@yahoo.com] > >> Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:03 AM > >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >> Subject: guitar strings > >> > >> > >> Hey - > >> > >> I recently switched to 10's from 11's 'cause my wrist was bothering me > >> (it's > >> getting better, I think - thanks again to all who responded). In the > week > >> or 2 > >> since I switched though, I've broken strings twice. I NEVER broke 11's > >> and I'm > >> not really playing that hard. My feeling is that D'Addario 10's are > >> really > >> cheap, since that's what most people play, and they take a bit more > care > >> with > >> the 11's (or a bit less with the 10's). I broke a D string on the > 10's! > >> > >> Any thoughts on this? Anyone have better strings to recommend, or am I > >> going > >> to end up back with 11's again? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> MT > >> __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 15:45:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25579; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:45:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:45:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910251800.LAA27845@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:00:18 -0500 Subject: Re: MIDI looper? From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XTtmL.0.fH4.inA5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No. Anyone who can point me to a discussion of its features would be most welcome. TH ---------- >From: L Tremblay >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 11:49 AM > > Have you checked out the Akai MIDI delay? > > - Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: Travis Hartnett > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: MIDI looper? > > >>I guess I should clarify--what I want is a MIDI sequencer that emulates a >>long digital delay, in that repeats can be set to decrease in volume. >> >>TH >> >>---------- >>>From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" >>>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>>Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >>>Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 8:30 AM >>> >> >>> >>> Travis Hartnett wrote: >>>> Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which > can >>>> act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? >>> >>> I have an old Alesis MMT8 that would be good for this. Its in the same >>> slant-front case as the now-venerable Alesis drum machines of the same > era >>> (HR-16 I think.) >>> >>> The unit is set up to have eight "tracks," with each track having a > button >>> on the front panel. The machine also has a loop mode where all eight > tracks >>> just keep looping (they all have to be the same length though.) So you > could >>> have eight MIDI loops running, and use the front panel buttons to select > or >>> mute tracks accordingly. >>> >>> And the best part, they aren't too hard to find, and they sell used for >>> about $150. >>> >>> -- Mango -- >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 16:50:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08970; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:50:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:50:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: athena.louisville.edu: Host ppp0207.remote.louisville.edu [136.165.221.72] claimed to be uofl.edu Message-ID: <3814B804.E73E1B0B@uofl.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:05:24 -0400 From: "Thor (the THUNDER GOD!)" Reply-To: thor@uofl.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I want a loop machine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Z6bGC1.0.0x6.uMB5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, I'm a guitar/banjo/madolin player who's trying to get better putting scales over chord progressions.I tried using a tape, but can't get enough on a tape to get any benefit from practice. I start run out of recording and rewind. I've looked at a couple of effects processors, but they only have 1-3 seconds of loop. Obviously, I need more. How much I don't know? What should I be looking for? Is software a cost effective option? Good new/used equipment to look at? I know nothing about what is on the market at his time. I really don't care about any effects; just clean, easy pedal operation looping. Any information/helpful hints/websites would be extremely helpful. Thanks, Thor Steffen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 17:07:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13810; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:07:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:07:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <38145D30.CABABD67@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 15:37:52 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MIDI looper? References: <199910250230.TAA01666@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"w1-pj.0.x-6.fOB5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the akai mpc2000 can do this - set it in record mode, define the loop length, tempo and signature and away you go. you could even play along with other tracks in parallel. Better yet: use midi commands in your sequence to control your jamman or edp - this latter approach is great for playing "composed" songs. for example, you could have the looper start recording at bar 5 and stop at bar 9 and then, at say bar 13, record overdubs etc. there is a lot you can do ... ... and you probably knew all this. i'm sure this is also possible with the yamaha su700 or the ensoniq asr-x etc. btw, now's the time to get an "old" (already out of production after two years) mpc2000. all sorts of silly people are selling them now that the modestly "improved" mpc2000xl has been brought out. rob Tiktok World HQ schrieb: > > > Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can > act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? > > Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 17:15:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15791; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:15:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:15:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <0.585ac410.254613fa@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:13:46 EDT Subject: ELIXER Re: strings To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"GhHsr.0.z5.ReB5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com my friend swears by elixers , particularly on his fretless bass(what i play in his band)and on his acoustics ive putting together a metal fretboard fretless guitar, and am seriously considering elixers for it(since ive fallen in love with them on fretless bass) my question: are they as bright as regular strings?(the wound ones that is) my friend loves them on bass because their "smoother" as in, not as bright rodrigo In a message dated 10/25/99 1:03:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, klowy@wrinklemuzik.com writes: << i've been using elixir strings for a while (10's) and have yet to break a string. they're expensive, but i think they last longer and are definitely stronger. also use them on my acoustic guitars (10's again) and they really hold up (both 6 & 1q2 string guitars). and i use some odd tunings. >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 17:16:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15860; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:16:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:16:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007101be6116$2178eb20$e7bd173f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: Subject: REMOVE Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:25:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01BE60D3.11FE5880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"2vHP53.0.Lv4.PxA5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BE60D3.11FE5880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable REMOVE TESH@GTE.NET ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BE60D3.11FE5880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BE60D3.11FE5880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 18:22:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31967; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:22:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:22:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7C7@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'thor@uofl.edu'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: I want a loop machine Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:39:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"d2a_q3.0.jL5.CuC5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Of course, the boomerang is an option. This helped my playing a great deal, simple to use, looping on the fly. Denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com - Obviously, I need more. How much I don't know? What should I be looking for? Is software a cost effective option? Good new/used equipment to look at? ; just clean, easy pedal operation looping. Any information/helpful hints/websites would be extremely helpful. Thanks, Thor Steffen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 18:22:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31947; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:22:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:22:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3814D2D8.C4B43E44@dmans.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:59:53 -0500 From: "Mikell D.Nelson" Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Delays for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"meDaq2.0.fm5.x_C5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Just a gear post, so it's distantly related to looping. I have just put a Lexicon LXP-1 and LXP-5 on eBay. Also a nifty little Bedrock tube amp. Thanks. -- Mike Nelson From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 18:49:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05562; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:49:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dlangenes@aol.com Message-ID: <0.9d49c097.25462db4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:03:32 EDT Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <"22q-I.0.0p6._FD5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks all for the comments. I've been using a 20 watt Subway Blues for most of a year and am pretty happy with my tone but am just looking for something for louder, outside shows but without having to lug around a huge cabinet. Sounds like the Mark series are what I'm looking for. Any wisdom about Rivera combos? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 19:39:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17486; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:39:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:39:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:58:05 +0000 Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps From: "Martin Shellard" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"TMafY2.0.aV.XgD5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've got a Boogie .50 caliber head and it's the lightest amp I've ever owned. Still don't like it though : ) Martin Shellard ---------- >From: PJBMHB@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 11:03 am > > what about the intense weight and high prices? those are the qualities that > come to my mind when i think of mesa boogie. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 20:04:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23754; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:04:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:04:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:31:51 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: FS: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id TAA16094 Resent-Message-ID: <"LqHYz1.0.Dy3.7ZE5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just another gear post... This one does loop! DFX 94... $95.00 plus shipping. Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 20:04:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23744; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:04:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:04:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3814EE34.23BF974E@dmans.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:56:36 -0500 From: "Mikell D.Nelson" Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Mesa Boogie Mark amps References: <0.9d49c097.25462db4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"BfGE32.0.eZ4.ejE5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Riveras? I don't like them; they seem to have a sterile quality to them. But then I don't like most Mesa Boogies or Marshalls. I use a VHT Pittbull 45 combo with 1 12" in a wide cabinet, and it sounds better than any amp I've ever heard. It's very versatile and plenty loud. It is heavy, though. I was considering getting their 2 12" close backed cabinet and a head to divide the load. They offer a wide variety of combos and head/cabinet arrangements. Call Steve Fryette at 805-376-9899. Tell him Mike at Boomerang sent you. Dlangenes@aol.com wrote: > Thanks all for the comments. I've been using a 20 watt Subway Blues for most > of a year and am pretty happy with my tone but am just looking for something > for louder, outside shows but without having to lug around a huge cabinet. > Sounds like the Mark series are what I'm looking for. > > Any wisdom about Rivera combos? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 20:44:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01282; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:44:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:44:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910260020.UAA22696@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:24:11 -0400 Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"IOduy2.0.Qx6.WFF5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HE STOLE MY MEAT AND TOOK MY FIRE ---------- >From: James Pearce >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 12:39 PM > >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? > >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: > >|spat@visi.com wrote: >|> >|> Cornhilio2 wrote: >|> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS THINGS >|> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST LETTING YOU >|> >PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS >|> >YOU CAN >|> >|> YES I KNOW HE BORROW MY PEAVEY T-30 AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK >|> >|> STEVE >| >|HE MEAN TOO HE BEAT HIS DOG ON CHRISTMAS AND NEVER REWINDED THE TAPE >|FROM BLOCKBUSTER HE HAS THE KOODIES >| >| > > _______________________________________________________________________ > James R. Pearce > jamesrp@statenet.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 20:47:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02370; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:47:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:47:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009601bf1f48$75941a90$8e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:24:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"RPWRg1.0.P07.-HF5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How well does it work? I gotta ask - someone sold me a broken RDS4000 once. Live and learn (and distrust). Thanks, Larry -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:08 PM Subject: FS: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... >Just another gear post... This one does loop! DFX 94... $95.00 plus shipping. > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 21:13:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08579; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:13:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:13:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003d01bf1f4c$04a41160$7a90480c@oemc> From: "Michael Davis" To: References: <2.2.32.19991022124920.007025fc@mail.dada.it> Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:49:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"MfN0u1.0.Ly.jjF5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com here is a URL for Indian beat boxes and other cool stuff http://www.indiansources.com/electronics/html/repl33r1.htm Michael C Davis ----- Original Message ----- From: leocavallo To: Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 5:49 AM Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte > ?????? riyazmaster pro tabla machine??????? > > what the **** is this thang? :) > > ciao > leo > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 22:11:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21676; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:11:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:11:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "nicholas konopka" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ozric Message-Id: <940903468.14277.45@excite.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:04:28 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 216.41.47.251 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"OY5hJ1.0.bx4.XnG5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is anyone familiar with the band Ozric Tentacles? If so, my question is.. What is the equipment that the synth player (Seaweed) plays? The synths and looping devices... Nick.. ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 22:37:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27909; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:37:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:37:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001d01bf1f5a$43148840$0e22dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <199910260020.UAA22696@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:31:50 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"MzoLa1.0.ca6.4BH5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com He asked me in to do a mural on his wall of the hunt, and then he kicked me out on the pretext that I'd put ferocious animals in his cave, forcing him and his family to search for another place to live. Now they've dragged this into the tribe meeting, all the time trailed by this chattering monkey wearing a bow tie... Judge Ugh, presiding... > >From: James Pearce > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 > >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 12:39 PM > > > > >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 23:06:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA02733; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:06:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:06:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Lcbois@aol.com Message-ID: <0.20a5ff66.2546736c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:01:00 EDT Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"pUd4E2.0.5P.VcH5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello i have a one year old echoplex to sell. I've got an oberheim foot pedal to go with it. I'm reluctant to part with it but... if you're interested, please reply. thanks, rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Oct 25 23:51:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13117; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:51:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:51:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991026034635.89396.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 20:46:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"8nxWY.0.kw2.DHI5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HE (stomp, stomp) OOT AND HE (click click click) GRRRR!!!!! > >HE STOLE MY MEAT AND TOOK MY FIRE >---------- > > > > >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? > > > >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: > > > >|spat@visi.com wrote: > >|> > >|> Cornhilio2 wrote: > >|> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS YOU HE SENDS >THINGS > >|> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL JUST >LETTING YOU > >|> >PEOPLE KNOW TO STAY AWAY FROM HIM PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY >PEOPLE AS > >|> >YOU CAN > >|> > >|> YES I KNOW HE BORROW MY PEAVEY T-30 AND NEVER GIVE IT BACK > >|> > >|> STEVE > >| > >|HE MEAN TOO HE BEAT HIS DOG ON CHRISTMAS AND NEVER REWINDED THE TAPE > >|FROM BLOCKBUSTER HE HAS THE KOODIES > >| > >| > > > > >_______________________________________________________________________ > > James R. Pearce > > jamesrp@statenet.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 01:16:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04501; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:16:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 01:16:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: "WARNING" jASKIN00 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:03:57 -0700 Message-ID: <002501bf1f6f$8242a5a0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <199910260020.UAA22696@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"kjLe41.0.ac.ORJ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HE STOLE MY MOJO THAT BASTARD! | -----Original Message----- | From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@mindspring.com] | Sent: Monday 25 October 1999 5:24 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 | | | HE STOLE MY MEAT AND TOOK MY FIRE | ---------- | >From: James Pearce | >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 | >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 12:39 PM | > | | >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? | > | >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: | > | >|spat@visi.com wrote: | >|> | >|> Cornhilio2 wrote: | >|> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS | YOU HE SENDS THINGS | >|> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL | JUST LETTING YOU... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 03:27:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA29579; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:27:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:27:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7B1@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:28:35 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: RE: Foot controller Resent-Message-ID: <"nZ0sG.0.es6.KPL5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi, > > Hey, the midimitgator, that's what I use. It's really great. I love >it. What happened to lake butler the makers of the rfc-1? Did they go under. >They also made a nother pedal that had 4 ev pedals, no? Yep, I use the board of this one in my system for 10 years without any trouble... ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 03:29:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30337; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:29:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:29:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990529192819.79826.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:28:35 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) Resent-Message-ID: <"uBrlE2.0.js6.KPL5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In May, David Caplivski had a dream (below). Did you someone else realize it? >>Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> > >> > Here's a suggestion: >> > >> > Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the >> > software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it >> > sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version of >> > the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could >> > sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. >> > >> > Is this possible? >> >>Its probably possible >>but then the loopers delight would be transformed in a bug report, >>computer configuration hell , all the fatiguing background noize you >>see/hear in every music software forum >> >>remember there is no bug in the EDP software v5 (there is one but I wont >>tell !):-) >> >>Claude >> >Couldn't someone run a labtop (i.e. G3 powerbook) with running Digital >Performer's P.O.L.A.R. software (performance orietated looping audio >recording) fullly equiped with a recording gate and automatic loop playback >functions and achieve more because of the computer's memory and other >feature's. It's an expensive proposition but one I'm looking into because >the idea of having a portable studio and synthesizer and looping brain is my >holy grail right now. The problem I foresee with POLAR's recording gate >function is not so much start times but stop times. But then again you >could bypass this function and manually trigger start and stop times. > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 03:43:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32670; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:43:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 03:43:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0.20a5ff66.2546736c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:46:00 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Resent-Message-ID: <"JecUz1.0.dk7.cfL5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Rob: >i have a one year old echoplex to sell. I've got an oberheim foot pedal to >go with it. I'm reluctant to part with it but... > >if you're interested, please reply. REALLY?? Please tell us how many offers you get... ;-) ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 05:55:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25469; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:55:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:55:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002001bf1f97$ccdfb940$ee99b8d4@oemcomputer> To: "Loopers delight" Subject: looking for a footcontroller like the PMC10 but reliable Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:51:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF1FA8.7390CEE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-dialin.net From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (Luis Angulo) Resent-Message-ID: <"nQpYl1.0.2x5.7bN5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF1FA8.7390CEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anybody had the chance to explore this new Phill Rees midi = footcontroller?What are the pros and cons?=20 http://www.philrees.co.uk/ And a question for the EDP users: Dou you also have problems with the = EDP foot switch? i find it extremely sensitive especially the record = button. Try it without shoes on and you=B4ll see what i mean! =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF1FA8.7390CEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BF1FA8.7390CEE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 10:13:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15552; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:13:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:13:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: klowy@pop.wrinklemuzik.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:02:49 -0400 To: Kriist@aol.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: kenn lowy Subject: Re: ELIXER Re: strings Resent-Message-ID: <"UuSDf1.0.ur2.hIR5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i use them on all my guitars (several electrics, and my 2 acoustics - 6 & 12 string) and they sound bright enough for me. however, i really cannot recommend using really high gauge strings (14's as several suggested), because they will rip your hands apart. everyone has to find the right gauge that works for them. your tone is created by the way you play, but (necessarily) by the gauge of string you use. klowy At 4:13 PM -0400 10/25/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: >my friend swears by elixers , particularly on his fretless bass(what i play >in his band)and on his acoustics >ive putting together a metal fretboard fretless guitar, and am seriously >considering elixers for it(since ive fallen in love with them on fretless >bass) >my question: >are they as bright as regular strings?(the wound ones that is) >my friend loves them on bass because their "smoother" >as in, not as bright > >rodrigo > >In a message dated 10/25/99 1:03:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >klowy@wrinklemuzik.com writes: > ><< i've been using elixir strings for a while (10's) and have yet to break a > string. they're expensive, but i think they last longer and are definitely > stronger. also use them on my acoustic guitars (10's again) and they really > hold up (both 6 & 1q2 string guitars). and i use some odd tunings. > >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 10:41:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25218; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:41:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:41:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7D4@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'thor@uofl.edu'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: vortex for sale Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:27:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"7Vu3K3.0.S85._fR5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I have a lexicon vortex for sale if anyone is interested. It's in great condition with owner's manual,power supply and footswitch. ASking same price I paid for it. $190.00 . It's cool, but won't fit in my rack. Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 11:54:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14690; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:54:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:54:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001b01bf1fc7$f7b10630$3d4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: AKAI MIDI Delay Info (FA on eBay) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:37:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"cdFk3.0.kL2.yeS5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com *** NOT Mine - DO NOT E-MAIL ME *** AKAI ME10D MIDI Delay Features: - MIDI IN/OUT/THRU - Digital Delay button with LED and Control knob. Adds delay between the moment you press a key in your MIDI keyboard and the moment the rack synth sounds. - Dynamics knob. Changes the velocity of the MIDI signal (how hard you press the key). - Octave Up/Norm/Down buttons with LEDs. - Program Change button with LED. Turns Program Change On/Off. - MIDI monitor LED. Blinks whenever a MIDI signal is received. - Thru button with LED. Cancels everything without changing any settings though, so that you can switch back if you press this button again. *** NOT Mine - DO NOT E-MAIL ME *** Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 12:37:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25990; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:37:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:37:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:27:18 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Elixir Strings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"QtxKV3.0.Jm5.bQT5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I find them NOT as bright as regular strings, however, you can compensate for this by judicious use eq on the high end of the guitar signal. They do last a long time, though. Almost absurdly so. I once decided to see how long I could keep them on a guitar and one set lasted around 9 months of 2-4 hour a day playing sessions. Yes, they were real grungy and dirty when I was done and they were pretty beat. I know of no other string where you could get away with this without the strings rusting. Maybe Maxima gold strings, but those are alot more expensive. -t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 13:23:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04781; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:23:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:23:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Hoover Alan To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Elixir Strings Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:56:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"tQqr63.0.it7.OxT5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I find them INITIALLY not as bright as "regular" strings. Then, with regular strings you quickly go through the "break-in period" where the initial high brightness wears off and you begin a useful period of "normal" string sound. This period (2) starts off being "quite bright", then goes through normal period, but eventually reaches a dullness and unwillingness to tune which is not tolerable. These periods are all dependent on how much you sweat, instrument quality, etc. With the Elixer strings, the initial brigtness is not quite as good as regular strings. However, there is this LONNNGG period where the Elixers keep a brightness that is equal to regular strings when almost but not quite new ("quite bright"). When the brightness of Elixers reaches regular string brightness (normal period), you are tempted to throw them away, because you have become spoiled by the long "quite bright" period! This is the beauty of these strings. I haven't timed it, but I believe that they are actually cheaper in the long run than regulars. Now, I have this pile of bulk strings that I will take forever to use because I am so spoiled! I use them on both acoustic and electric, and am equally impressed with both. (The Sustainiac loves them, too. heh heh) Alan -----Original Message----- From: Todd Madson [mailto:crash@waste.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 11:27 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Elixir Strings I find them NOT as bright as regular strings, however, you can compensate for this by judicious use eq on the high end of the guitar signal. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 13:44:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10373; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:44:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:44:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003001bf1fd9$4d2a3800$344badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Elixir Strings Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:41:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"-0AJm.0.T92.QTU5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Once they get all grubby, they last even longer is you boil them to get the crap off. Re-string the guitar and presto! New strings (sorta). - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 1:20 PM Subject: Elixir Strings >I find them NOT as bright as regular strings, however, you can compensate >for this by judicious use eq on the high end of the guitar signal. > >They do last a long time, though. Almost absurdly so. I once decided to >see how long I could keep them on a guitar and one set lasted around 9 >months of 2-4 hour a day playing sessions. Yes, they were real grungy and >dirty when I was done and they were pretty beat. I know of no other >string where you could get away with this without the strings rusting. > >Maybe Maxima gold strings, but those are alot more expensive. > >-t > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 14:16:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19367; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:16:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:16:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.7210d510.25474835@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:08:53 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Minidisc vs. DAT for portable To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"XpJPR3.0.x74.fvU5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 19/10/99 21:07:39 GMT Daylight Time, Echopark99@aol.com writes: > Can anybody compare the mic pre-amps of their MD to those on the D7 or D8 > Sony DAT? minidiscs:- Sharp 702 = lousy mic-pre Sony MZ-R35 =OK mic-pre with useful limiter (which can be bypassed) to my ears it's the Atrac which limits the quality of this one , not the preamp. DAT will give you better quality if cost (+media cost) no object. but you might find the editing capabilities of MD very useful for your purposes Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 14:15:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18703; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:15:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:15:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <0.e466c2f6.25474833@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:08:51 EDT Subject: Re: Sound on Sound To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"i2bx71.0.p-3.CvU5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 22/10/99 19:33:27 GMT Daylight Time, kevin@minds-eye.org writes: > Does anyone know anything about a Teac AX10 Sound on Sound Stereo Echo > Effect? I've found a reference to one of these pretty cheap and am > wondering if this is actually a tape echo or something else altogether. > I'm coming up blank on all other searches so the question goes to the list. > > Thanks for any help > > Kevin I'd guess this a passive mixing box which gives you tape echo FX when used in conjunction with a reel to reel tape deck. The AX20 (which I have) is a passive "mix-down panel" for a 4 track R to R. Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 14:36:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24115; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:36:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:36:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 10:46:30 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Elixir Strung-outs In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2UGtu.0.Sf2.qaU5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >strings, blahblahblah usually when I make some comment about off-topicness, I make a joke about the guitar players boring the life out of everybody else by talking about their strings. As you all can see though, this is a very real danger! We must be ever vigilent. I don't know what it is about guitar players, for some reason they are just oblivous to the fact that not everybody wants to hear them 100% of the time. They do this in bands (you've heard the jokes...) and they do it on mailing lists. You put a few of them together and they start babbling about picks and tube amps and strings and tuning pegs and whatever, completely ignoring the topic. You don't even get so much as an apology or an "excuse me for being off topic"! So as yet another reminder, this list is about looping. (hence the name....). Let's try to veer back that way. Many, many people here do not play guitar, or are not interested in discussing it here. The thing that everyone is commonly here to discuss is looping. Try to stick to that. There are numerous places for guitar discussions, this is it for looping. Let's try to keep the SNR a little higher..... thanks, kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 15:33:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06845; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:33:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:33:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:34:53 -0400 Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 From: "Joey" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"smEJ5.0.tK1.C3W5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HE SAY HE LOVE ME FOREVER AND THEN HE TAKE ALL MY MONEY AND LEAVE ME FOR 'NOTHER MAN! WHAT I DO? ---------- >From: "Javier Miranda V." >To: >Subject: RE: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >Date: Tue, Oct 26, 1999, 1:03 AM > > HE STOLE MY MOJO THAT BASTARD! > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@mindspring.com] > | Sent: Monday 25 October 1999 5:24 PM > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > | Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 > | > | > | HE STOLE MY MEAT AND TOOK MY FIRE > | ---------- > | >From: James Pearce > | >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > | >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 > | >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 12:39 PM > | > > | > | >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? > | > > | >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: > | > > | >|spat@visi.com wrote: > | >|> > | >|> Cornhilio2 wrote: > | >|> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS > | YOU HE SENDS THINGS > | >|> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL > | JUST LETTING YOU... > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 16:42:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24270; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:42:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:42:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: floyd@voicenet.com Date: 26 Oct 1999 19:45:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19991026194500.465.qmail@unix01.voicenet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: (OT) Re: strings & looping Resent-Message-ID: <"JFwP82.0.gx2.bSW5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim wrote: > > So as yet another reminder, this list is about looping. (hence the > name....). Let's try to veer back that way. Many, many people here do not > play guitar, or are not interested in discussing it here. The thing that > everyone is commonly here to discuss is looping. Try to stick to that. > There are numerous places for guitar discussions, this is it for looping. > Let's try to keep the SNR a little higher..... I like to put loops in the excess length of my strings so the ends don't poke at me. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 16:59:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28570; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:59:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:59:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3816112A.37E9DA64@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:38:07 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: looking for a footcontroller... References: <002001bf1f97$ccdfb940$ee99b8d4@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NWM7_.0.1M5.C1X5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Luis Angulo wrote: ...And a question for the EDP users: Dou you also have problems with the EDP foot switch? i find it extremely sensitive especially the record button. Try it without shoes on and youīll see what i mean... hey, didn't we once cover the topic (slightly loop-related?) of to wear or not (shoes, that is) while activating our varied electro-magnetic appendages? i think there were some safety concerns w/ bare feet (sensuous though they be)... lance g. ps the sensitivity is what i dig, 'course it did require some getting used to... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 16:59:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28574; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:59:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:59:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.14d69680.25476a87@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:35:19 EDT Subject: in apologia, re:OT-itudes To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"QHEHZ1.0.rd5.h4X5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com kf, et al: sorry, if i helped further the OT-ness. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 17:12:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25675; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:48:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:48:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009701bf1ff0$ccb92100$344badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:29:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"wUFhz.0.1-4.GxW5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK. Are *you* 15 friggin years old or something? Cut the crap! If it was funny I wouldn't mind deleting them, but it's not. Get it? Masterbate somewhere else. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Joey To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:56 PM Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >HE SAY HE LOVE ME FOREVER AND THEN HE TAKE ALL MY MONEY AND LEAVE ME FOR >'NOTHER MAN! WHAT I DO? > >---------- >>From: "Javier Miranda V." >>To: >>Subject: RE: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >>Date: Tue, Oct 26, 1999, 1:03 AM >> > >> HE STOLE MY MOJO THAT BASTARD! >> >> | -----Original Message----- >> | From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@mindspring.com] >> | Sent: Monday 25 October 1999 5:24 PM >> | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> | Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >> | >> | >> | HE STOLE MY MEAT AND TOOK MY FIRE >> | ---------- >> | >From: James Pearce >> | >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> | >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >> | >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 12:39 PM >> | > >> | >> | >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? >> | > >> | >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: >> | > >> | >|spat@visi.com wrote: >> | >|> >> | >|> Cornhilio2 wrote: >> | >|> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS >> | YOU HE SENDS THINGS >> | >|> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL >> | JUST LETTING YOU... >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 17:18:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00865; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:18:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:18:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:07:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Elixir Strung-outs From: "Joey" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"RgR_F2.0.i37.zPX5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com All due respect Kim, there are subject lines for a reason. You don't have to read this if you so choose, and we are all entitled to use forums like this however we want. Granted, you are right in that it is slightly annoying, and maybe even rude, but lighten up! I see no problem with someone discussing tone or gear; guitar or otherwise. ---------- >From: Kim Flint >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Elixir Strung-outs >Date: Tue, Oct 26, 1999, 1:46 PM > > >>strings, > > blahblahblah > > usually when I make some comment about off-topicness, I make a joke about > the guitar players boring the life out of everybody else by talking about > their strings. As you all can see though, this is a very real danger! We > must be ever vigilent. I don't know what it is about guitar players, for > some reason they are just oblivous to the fact that not everybody wants to > hear them 100% of the time. They do this in bands (you've heard the > jokes...) and they do it on mailing lists. You put a few of them together > and they start babbling about picks and tube amps and strings and tuning > pegs and whatever, completely ignoring the topic. You don't even get so > much as an apology or an "excuse me for being off topic"! > > So as yet another reminder, this list is about looping. (hence the > name....). Let's try to veer back that way. Many, many people here do not > play guitar, or are not interested in discussing it here. The thing that > everyone is commonly here to discuss is looping. Try to stick to that. > There are numerous places for guitar discussions, this is it for looping. > Let's try to keep the SNR a little higher..... > > thanks, > kim > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 18:33:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19659; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:33:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:33:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <013301bf1ffe$35be9560$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:05:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"Bk4Hg3.0.-M3.SPY5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sounds like an idea that I can't get out of my head, ridiculous as it is. I envision a band consisting of 2 guitars (ideally Sticks or Warrs, but whatever) equipped with synth pickups, and a drummer using a V-Drum kit. Instead of each player having his own rack of effects, samplers, et al... EVERYONE's signal goes into one G3 Powerbook, which has all the sound samples and looping software onboard, and then a simple controller for each person to manipulate his own signal and loops. Plus, since everyone's got access to the same sounds, the drummer could use guitar/bass patches, and vice versa. For a bonus, you could even let a fourth person sit at the computer and act as a DJ, controlling the loops and manipulating the sounds in real-time while the other three play. Is such a thing even technically possible? And, if so, how much moolah would all this crap cost? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthias Grob To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:28 AM Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) > In May, David Caplivski had a dream (below). Did you someone else realize it? > > >>Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >> > > >> > Here's a suggestion: > >> > > >> > Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the > >> > software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it > >> > sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version of > >> > the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could > >> > sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. > >> > > >> > Is this possible? > >> > >>Its probably possible > >>but then the loopers delight would be transformed in a bug report, > >>computer configuration hell , all the fatiguing background noize you > >>see/hear in every music software forum > >> > >>remember there is no bug in the EDP software v5 (there is one but I wont > >>tell !):-) > >> > >>Claude > >> > > >Couldn't someone run a labtop (i.e. G3 powerbook) with running Digital > >Performer's P.O.L.A.R. software (performance orietated looping audio > >recording) fullly equiped with a recording gate and automatic loop playback > >functions and achieve more because of the computer's memory and other > >feature's. It's an expensive proposition but one I'm looking into because > >the idea of having a portable studio and synthesizer and looping brain is my > >holy grail right now. The problem I foresee with POLAR's recording gate > >function is not so much start times but stop times. But then again you > >could bypass this function and manually trigger start and stop times. > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 19:24:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00385; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:24:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:24:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:51:15 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id SAA24402 Resent-Message-ID: <"oIQqj.0.qz5.N3Z5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Kevin... This was one of those gee whiz, I wish my GT-5 could do THIS!!! things... I've got an EDP and also loop a lot with the 1.8 secs the GT-5 has... The 2100 is probably great, but there's a couple new things coming which look extremely nice. Anyway we've got the Headrush doing mono looping for 11/22 secs with good reviews. There's the new Line6 Delay Modeler which appears to have around 14 secs with all the Boomerang perks... reverse, double speed/half speed and a ton of other desirable delays in there... probably around $350. Then there's the new TC Electronics D-Two Multitap Rhythym Delay which has a hold function, midi, temp sync and tap, and 10 secs of STEREO delay... I've made a deposit on one of these babies... They'll supposedly ship in late November. $699 list and the TC US guy said maybe $499 street price... I'm really tired of using a Vortex to stereoize my loops... I want my looper to just grab panning, chorus, multitap, anything stereo and just keep it that way. I can use the Vortex for mind twisting, but I'm really pining for stereo looping. Love to hear some of the new stuff! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> 10/21 1:48 PM >>> Mike Biffle wrote: "Is there anyone out there who might know the feasability of expanding the GT-5 delay time? 4 secs or more would be amazing for a standalone all-in-one processor..." Hey, Mike, you should run right out and grab one of them thar $95 Zoom 2100s if you want an amazing looper/processor all in one. If your gt-5 has an effects loop, just hang it off that and away you go. Best, The Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 19:33:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02772; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:33:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:33:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:08:45 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Resent-Message-ID: <"r1UF-3.0.E47.bJZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Please excuse this last message... meant to send it privately y'know! Oops... Thankfully, it was ON TOPIC! There IS a God! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Mike Biffle" 10/26 4:00 PM >>> Hi Kevin... This was one of those gee whiz, I wish my GT-5 could do THIS!!! things... I've got From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 19:36:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03371; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:36:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:36:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991026230949.1526.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.90.217.35] From: "chalchiuhtlicue" To: References: Subject: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:13:22 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"M67hw3.0.V57.pJZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com jeeze, it's not like these guys were exchanging urls for pay porn sites. they were talking shop -- loopers discussing an instrument they use in looping. the list name, which you patronizingly pointed out, is "looper's delight". how is that so off-topic? in fact, in this whole thread, your own post makes you look most like who you describe when you insult half the people on this list -- a ranting, self-important, calloused jerk. if this is the sort of tone you wish to set here then unsubscribe me. because it is you who are off-topic. at least until you change the list name to Loopers-Full-Of-Themselves. thanks, ch > >>strings, > > > > blahblahblah > > > > usually when I make some comment about off-topicness, I make a joke about > > the guitar players boring the life out of everybody else by talking about > > their strings. As you all can see though, this is a very real danger! We > > must be ever vigilent. I don't know what it is about guitar players, for > > some reason they are just oblivous to the fact that not everybody wants to > > hear them 100% of the time. They do this in bands (you've heard the > > jokes...) and they do it on mailing lists. You put a few of them together > > and they start babbling about picks and tube amps and strings and tuning > > pegs and whatever, completely ignoring the topic. You don't even get so > > much as an apology or an "excuse me for being off topic"! > > > > So as yet another reminder, this list is about looping. (hence the > > name....). Let's try to veer back that way. Many, many people here do not > > play guitar, or are not interested in discussing it here. The thing that > > everyone is commonly here to discuss is looping. Try to stick to that. > > There are numerous places for guitar discussions, this is it for looping. > > Let's try to keep the SNR a little higher..... > > > > thanks, > > kim > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 19:36:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03303; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:36:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:36:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008401bf2008$424664c0$becf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: <013301bf1ffe$35be9560$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:17:14 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"k92c43.0.ep7.dUZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Peter Shindler wrote: > EVERYONE's signal goes into one G3 Powerbook, which has all the sound > samples and looping software onboard, and then a simple controller for each > person to manipulate his own signal and loops. > Is such a thing even technically possible? And, if so, how much moolah > would all this crap cost? Hmmm, that is a very interesting concept. I, too, dream of a laptop-based looping/effect/synth/recording rig with a PowerBook, a Magma PCI expansion chassis (www.magma.com) and a Creamware Pulsar (www.creamware.com.) One G3 would be hard-pressed to process three or four peoples' worth of music however. To make your idea work reasonably well, it might require each member to have their own G3 rig, and they would have to be networked with at least 100Mb or possibly even gigabit ethernet. Initial estimates for my dream rig started getting close to $10,000US before I just put the whole idea aside for the moment. And remember, that is just for one rig. Technology just keeps getting cheaper though... -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:21:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14617; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:21:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:21:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38163C2F.A212EC80@minds-eye.org> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:41:35 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Hendrix Strings References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kecoG1.0.0G1.5oZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To paraphrase Jimi, "strings can be such a drag so tonight were just gonna play like they aren't there" Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:21:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14582; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:21:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:21:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Resent-Message-ID: <"6vTQn.0.fn1.luZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >if this is the sort of tone you wish to set here then unsubscribe me. because >it is you who are off-topic. at least until you change the list name to >Loopers-Full-Of-Themselves. > Kim- Please give these nice folks with their strings what they ask for, unsub them so the rest of us can go back to obsessing about looping devices... Because if the minutae of the instruments we loop with is up for posting, I'll be forced to start ranting about the analog filters in my Fenix synthesizer and how they compare to Moog, Arp and Roland filters (trust me folks, we don't want to go there). Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:23:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15204; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:23:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:23:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101bf200e$4f6c6cc0$d696adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:00:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"MHKzT3.0.Q72.jzZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yikes . . . ch . . . this may be a LITTLE extreme--I didn't detect that tone in Kim's post I'm on a couple of lists where anything not conforming to the newsgroup subject is summarily executed . . . the list admins job is to keep things on topic--Kim merely asked that we keep things on topic one of those cases where e-mail is not a good communications medium--you can't detect the facial expressions and nuances that make you distinguish a gentle rebuke from a "rant"--IMHO Kim's response was not a rant all the best, Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: chalchiuhtlicue To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:41 PM Subject: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) >jeeze, it's not like these guys were exchanging urls for pay porn sites. they >were talking shop -- loopers discussing an instrument they use in looping. >the list name, which you patronizingly pointed out, is "looper's delight". >how is that so off-topic? > >in fact, in this whole thread, your own post makes you look most like who you >describe when you insult half the people on this list -- a ranting, >self-important, calloused jerk. > >if this is the sort of tone you wish to set here then unsubscribe me. because >it is you who are off-topic. at least until you change the list name to >Loopers-Full-Of-Themselves. > >thanks, >ch > >> >>strings, >> > >> > blahblahblah >> > >> > usually when I make some comment about off-topicness, I make a joke about >> > the guitar players boring the life out of everybody else by talking about >> > their strings. As you all can see though, this is a very real danger! We >> > must be ever vigilent. I don't know what it is about guitar players, for >> > some reason they are just oblivous to the fact that not everybody wants to >> > hear them 100% of the time. They do this in bands (you've heard the >> > jokes...) and they do it on mailing lists. You put a few of them together >> > and they start babbling about picks and tube amps and strings and tuning >> > pegs and whatever, completely ignoring the topic. You don't even get so >> > much as an apology or an "excuse me for being off topic"! >> > >> > So as yet another reminder, this list is about looping. (hence the >> > name....). Let's try to veer back that way. Many, many people here do not >> > play guitar, or are not interested in discussing it here. The thing that >> > everyone is commonly here to discuss is looping. Try to stick to that. >> > There are numerous places for guitar discussions, this is it for looping. >> > Let's try to keep the SNR a little higher..... >> > >> > thanks, >> > kim >> > >> > >> > >> > ______________________________________________________________________ >> > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >> > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >> > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> > >> > >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:24:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15249; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:24:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:24:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701bf200c$b1e5ff80$b06fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:49:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"SFIq-2.0.E32.MyZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Sounds like an idea that I can't get out of my head, ridiculous as it is. I envision a band consisting of 2 guitars (ideally Sticks or Warrs, but whatever) equipped with synth pickups, and a drummer using a V-Drum kit" hey don't forget about us Zendrummers. why lug a vdrum around when you can have a Zen. if the whole point is to cut down on stuff to bring this would be the way to go. http://www.zendrum.com/images/zxfigm1.jpg this is mine. i use a alesis dm pro with it. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:26:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16296; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:26:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:26:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:05:11 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, chalchiuhtlicue@hotmail.com Subject: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Resent-Message-ID: <"BuXmt.0._m2.69a5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wow! This is going downhill fast... chalchiuhtlicue@hotmail.com writes... > jeeze, it's not like these guys were exchanging urls for pay porn sites. they were talking shop -- loopers discussing an instrument they use in looping... And by extension... the motor size of the auto one drives to the looping gig... Do Elixers LOOP better for some reason? Kim's post (the list owner and maintainer) was a nice reminder of what we're here to discuss... Entertaining too! Maybe you're just taking it a little too personally. I WAS getting tired of that string thread... > in fact, in this whole thread, your own post makes you look most like who you describe when you insult half the people on this list -- a ranting, self-important, calloused jerk. Admittedly, Kim likes to poke fun at us geetar guys... (although he's one hisself as well). Remember... Kim could moderate the list and make it a whole lot less fun. 8-b We're here as guests in an all volunteer sorta place... > if this is the sort of tone you wish to set here then unsubscribe me. because it is you who are off-topic. at least until you change the list name to Loopers-Full-Of-Themselves. Now there's an offer which might satisfy everyone! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:21:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14601; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:21:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:21:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000a01bf200d$3d705960$d696adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:53:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"RMCW_2.0.hZ1.DsZ5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com oh YEEEAAAHH . . . post the good s**t privately and keep the nice, short milktoast posts for Loopers . . . hey Miko, what kind of guitar strings do you use anyway? ;) ;) ;) ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net BTW . . . HE PUT THE TOILET PAPER SPOOLING THE RONG WAY AND LEFT GREASY MARKS ON MY VORTEKS (sorry Kim, could'nt resist) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >Please excuse this last message... meant to send it privately y'know! >Oops... Thankfully, it was ON TOPIC! There IS a God! > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > >>>> "Mike Biffle" 10/26 4:00 PM >>> >Hi Kevin... This was one of those gee whiz, I wish my GT-5 could do >THIS!!! things... I've got > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:26:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16292; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:26:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:26:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:07:21 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, hideo@concentric.net Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte Resent-Message-ID: <"2C4B23.0.zy2.IBa5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Not Elixers... Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Tom Lambrecht" 10/26 4:55 PM >>> oh YEEEAAAHH . . . post the good s**t privately and keep the nice, short milktoast posts for Loopers . . . hey Miko, what kind of guitar strings do you use anyway? ;) ;) ;) ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0 Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net BTW . . . HE PUT THE TOILET PAPER SPOOLING THE RONG WAY AND LEFT GREASY MARKS ON MY VORTEKS (sorry Kim, could'nt resist) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte >Please excuse this last message... meant to send it privately y'know! >Oops... Thankfully, it was ON TOPIC! There IS a God! > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > >>>> "Mike Biffle" 10/26 4:00 PM >>> >Hi Kevin... This was one of those gee whiz, I wish my GT-5 could do >THIS!!! things... I've got > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 20:39:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19622; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:39:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:39:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.92183f02.25479ecc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:18:20 EDT Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"cWfes.0.4W3.JKa5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well said sir. A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:07:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27086; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:07:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:07:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910270059.UAA24348@smtp10.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:02:54 -0400 Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"33qVU2.0.k26.Jwa5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it was kinda funny i suppose... ---------- >From: "L Tremblay" >To: >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >Date: Tue, Oct 26, 1999, 4:29 PM > >OK. Are *you* 15 friggin years old or something? Cut the crap! >If it was funny I wouldn't mind deleting them, but it's not. > >Get it? Masterbate somewhere else. > >- Larry >-----Original Message----- >From: Joey >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:56 PM >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 > > >>HE SAY HE LOVE ME FOREVER AND THEN HE TAKE ALL MY MONEY AND LEAVE ME FOR >>'NOTHER MAN! WHAT I DO? >> >>---------- >>>From: "Javier Miranda V." >>>To: >>>Subject: RE: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >>>Date: Tue, Oct 26, 1999, 1:03 AM >>> >> >>> HE STOLE MY MOJO THAT BASTARD! >>> >>> | -----Original Message----- >>> | From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@mindspring.com] >>> | Sent: Monday 25 October 1999 5:24 PM >>> | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>> | Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >>> | >>> | >>> | HE STOLE MY MEAT AND TOOK MY FIRE >>> | ---------- >>> | >From: James Pearce >>> | >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>> | >Subject: Re: "WARNING" jASKIN00 >>> | >Date: Mon, Oct 25, 1999, 12:39 PM >>> | > >>> | >>> | >can we get any more chro-mag with this thread? >>> | > >>> | >On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: >>> | > >>> | >|spat@visi.com wrote: >>> | >|> >>> | >|> Cornhilio2 wrote: >>> | >|> >DO NOT TRY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH JASKIN00@AOL.COM HE TELLS >>> | YOU HE SENDS THINGS >>> | >|> >THEN CALL A LAWYER WHEN HE THINKS YOU BACKED OUT ON A DEAL >>> | JUST LETTING YOU... >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:09:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27399; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:09:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:09:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a599f256.2547a7fb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:57:31 EDT Subject: is it the moon? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"ut_w53.0.o-5.6va5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/26/99 9:32:48 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, mbiffle@svg.com writes: << Please excuse this last message... meant to send it privately y'know! Oops... Thankfully, it was ON TOPIC! There IS a God! >> why have we come to this?..............................:)..........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:07:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27126; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:07:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:07:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991027005554.43966.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: FS: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:55:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"IZGxN.0.0w5.fta5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com That's a good deal everybody! The DFX 94 may not have all sorts of features and it may give a little noise, but it's excellent for live improvisation and quick loop generation. It's also very easy to use! It has analog-like pitch control, and it's very easy to us it like a simple push-button sampler. Like most sqashboxes that are actually fun to use, this was discontinued a few years ago to make way for more crappy distortion pedals that sound exactly like other distortion pedals. Now they're pretty hard to find. I'd buy it myself if I didn't already own several. Mr. Tough >From: "Mike Biffle" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: FS: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... >Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 16:31:51 -0700 > >Just another gear post... This one does loop! DFX 94... $95.00 plus >shipping. > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:08:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27392; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:08:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:08:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991027005326.89488.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.90.217.77] From: "chalchiuhtlicue" To: References: <001101bf200e$4f6c6cc0$d696adce@satellite> Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:56:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"7MFrU2.0.rh5.tqa5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 1) it did conform to the subject - it was loopers talking about their looping rigs. the instrument one uses to feed sounds into the loop is a large portion of the rig. the posters weren't exchanging pie recipes, they were loopers who were talking shop. 2) it wasn't a gentle rebuke. he insulted half the list subscribers in a patronizing way. I'm sorry, but it's hard not to take that as a rant, and it's offensive. I don't care if he's the listkeeper or not. he accuses guitarists for not apologizing for going off subject, and at the same time he doesn't apologize for his attitude or indicate in any way that he is being facetious. Sorry, Tom, but I simply don't buy it. all the best, ch ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Lambrecht To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 7:00 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) > yikes . . . ch . . . this may be a LITTLE extreme--I didn't detect that tone > in Kim's post > > I'm on a couple of lists where anything not conforming to the newsgroup > subject is summarily executed . . . the list admins job is to keep things on > topic--Kim merely asked that we keep things on topic > > one of those cases where e-mail is not a good communications medium--you > can't detect the facial expressions and nuances that make you distinguish a > gentle rebuke from a "rant"--IMHO Kim's response was not a rant > > all the best, > > Tom Lambrecht From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:14:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29037; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:14:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:14:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.5b6f6982.2547aaef@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:10:07 EDT Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"BXScE.0.Wl6.a4b5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/26/99 10:23:41 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, postaldave@qx.net writes: << http://www.zendrum.com/images/zxfigm1.jpg >> dave........thanks for the picture........made me shiver.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:15:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29131; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:15:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:15:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006201bf2017$e0becac0$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <000701bf200c$b1e5ff80$b06fc8d0@computer> Subject: Zendrum/losing the box Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:09:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"qLced1.0.Tv6.X5b5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wow! Thanks for pointing the Zendrum out to me. I'm ashamed to say that I'd never heard of it before, but it sure looks cool! Great, now I have another item for my wish list. Hmmm.... 2 Sticks and 2 Zendrummers, all wired to a Cray-2... could be slightly interesting... ;) Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: postaldave To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) > "Sounds like an idea that I can't get out of my head, ridiculous as it is. > I > envision a band consisting of 2 guitars (ideally Sticks or Warrs, but > whatever) equipped with synth pickups, and a drummer using a V-Drum kit" > > hey don't forget about us Zendrummers. why lug a vdrum around when you can > have a Zen. if the whole point is to cut down on stuff to bring this would > be the way to go. > > > http://www.zendrum.com/images/zxfigm1.jpg this is mine. i use a alesis > dm pro with it. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:51:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05665; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:51:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:51:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991026212955.007ce1e0@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:29:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) In-Reply-To: <000701bf200c$b1e5ff80$b06fc8d0@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wPrU73.0.wL.ePb5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:49 PM 10/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >"Sounds like an idea that I can't get out of my head, ridiculous as it is. >I >envision a band consisting of 2 guitars (ideally Sticks or Warrs, but >whatever) equipped with synth pickups, and a drummer using a V-Drum kit" > >hey don't forget about us Zendrummers. why lug a vdrum around when you can >have a Zen. if the whole point is to cut down on stuff to bring this would >be the way to go. > > >http://www.zendrum.com/images/zxfigm1.jpg this is mine. i use a alesis >dm pro with it. How about a beginning tabla student who wants to pick up a set of miniTabla (live looping, also one doesn't have to sit on the floor to play them) and also play NS Stick and Ztar at the same time? Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 21:51:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05702; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:51:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:51:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991026212630.007cd190@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:26:30 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) In-Reply-To: <008401bf2008$424664c0$becf08cf@donaldpancoe> References: <013301bf1ffe$35be9560$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"WAgIR2.0.0A.WNb5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:17 PM 10/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >Peter Shindler wrote: > >> EVERYONE's signal goes into one G3 Powerbook, which has all the sound >> samples and looping software onboard, and then a simple controller for >each >> person to manipulate his own signal and loops. > >> Is such a thing even technically possible? And, if so, how much moolah >> would all this crap cost? > >Hmmm, that is a very interesting concept. I, too, dream of a laptop-based >looping/effect/synth/recording rig with a PowerBook, a Magma PCI expansion >chassis (www.magma.com) and a Creamware Pulsar (www.creamware.com.) > >One G3 would be hard-pressed to process three or four peoples' worth of >music however. To make your idea work reasonably well, it might require each >member to have their own G3 rig, and they would have to be networked with at >least 100Mb or possibly even gigabit ethernet. Don't we have a couple of members of The Hub on this list? The Hub is an electronic band consisting of five or six musicians playing electronic instruments networked together. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:09:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10670; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:09:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:09:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <0.576ea9e4.2547b4c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:52:07 EDT Subject: OT: recording in India To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"q2CiJ3.0.ea1.Eib5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Speaking of Indian music... I'm leaving for Calcutta environs on Monday for about three weeks. I'm bringing a DAT and stereo mics. I remember someone posting about being in India for musical reasons, and I'd be interested in learning about Calcutta instrument shops and opportunities to record interesting instruments for sampling and, yes, LOOPING (there - not so OT...) I'll be staying at the Institute of Culture and at a monastery (Belur Math), then possibly on to Varanasi and fly back from Delhi. Also - where else to post this topic? eric p echo park In a message dated 99-10-25 21:13:20 EDT, you write: << here is a URL for Indian beat boxes and other cool stuff http://www.indiansources.com/electronics/html/repl33r1.htm Michael C Davis >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:12:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA11121; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:12:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:12:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991026220321.007ada90@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:03:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics In-Reply-To: <0.e6dacc91.2540e25e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"RGIXo.0.1K2.ptb5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Okay, back to looping.... We discuss individual pieces of looping gear a great deal, but when it comes to containing it and carrying it around as a system, are any of you using innovative racks/pedalboards/stands/cases that transport, set up and tear down particularly well? Any ideas that would benefit a looper playing on a multiple bill (you know, 6 acts on a crowded stage with ten minutes to set up between, and no sound check...)? Ways to "smallerize", yet retain versatility? Original ways to avoid having to unpack, plug in, unplug and re-pack every patch cord every time ya play out? Effective methods for making sure that all of your equipment ends up making it home from the gig with you? Tim P.S.: HE ALWAYS STOPES STRANGERS ON THE STREET AND MAKE THEM LOOK AT HIS CALLOUS FINGRS FROM USEING THICK HEVY STRINGS WITH NEW STANDERD TUNNING... (sorry...) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:11:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA11034; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:11:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:11:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <0.397caa46.2547b845@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:07:01 EDT Subject: Re: Elixir Strings To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"Q2hsI.0.DP2.yvb5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-10-26 12:37:20 EDT, you write: << They do last a long time, though. Almost absurdly so. >> I'll chime in here. I use the Elixirs on guiatrs I don't play much, i.e. that old acoustic, that Korean Les Paul I've got for living room fun, etc. On those two guitars, the Elixirs have been on for over a year, and they still feel good and you don't have to apologize when you pass the guitar to your guests. But I simply prefer the DR nickel sound on my main ASAT, but another good sounding/long lasting combination is Tomastik-Infeld (sp?) I've been amazed by those. They have gold colored high strings. I've had them on a well-used electric (every two days of playing) since mid-August. They are now tonally only somewhat tired, but still feel very good. eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:31:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15929; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:31:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:31:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.464b4afa.2547b9b7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:13:11 EDT Subject: Re: THANKS FOR THE TAPE!!! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"VixB2.0.Cw2.p_b5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I remember several weeks ago requesting a tape (I don't remember from whom), but it did arrive and I have to say, "very nice tabla/ambient loops". Please identify yourself. Nothing came with the tape to let me know whose it is. Thanks alot whoever you are. I'm really enjoying listening to it. Bill "Hawkeye" ps: the title on the label "Lahara Mandola" (sp?) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:36:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17121; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:36:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:36:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004901bf2022$17287ed0$344badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:22:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"pAEcJ.0.vI3.66c5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'd liked it better when you were going to unsubscribe. And it's Kim's list so shut up if you can't take a fucking joke. His facetious description of guitarists (especially whiners like you) is so correct it hurts...you're living proof. *I'm* a (sorta) guitarist and *my* fragile little ego was NOT bruised in the least. Get over your self-important innerchild or whatever guitarist-cliche-machismo trip you think you're on. Geez... - Larry "piano-wire" Tremblay -----Original Message----- From: chalchiuhtlicue To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) >1) it did conform to the subject - it was loopers talking about their looping >rigs. the instrument one uses to feed sounds into the loop is a large portion >of the rig. the posters weren't exchanging pie recipes, they were loopers who >were talking shop. > >2) it wasn't a gentle rebuke. he insulted half the list subscribers in a >patronizing way. I'm sorry, but it's hard not to take that as a rant, and >it's offensive. I don't care if he's the listkeeper or not. he accuses >guitarists for not apologizing for going off subject, and at the same time he >doesn't apologize for his attitude or indicate in any way that he is being >facetious. Sorry, Tom, but I simply don't buy it. > >all the best, >ch > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Tom Lambrecht >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 7:00 PM >Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) > > >> yikes . . . ch . . . this may be a LITTLE extreme--I didn't detect that tone >> in Kim's post >> >> I'm on a couple of lists where anything not conforming to the newsgroup >> subject is summarily executed . . . the list admins job is to keep things on >> topic--Kim merely asked that we keep things on topic >> >> one of those cases where e-mail is not a good communications medium--you >> can't detect the facial expressions and nuances that make you distinguish a >> gentle rebuke from a "rant"--IMHO Kim's response was not a rant >> >> all the best, >> >> Tom Lambrecht > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:38:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17462; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:38:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:38:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: WshaUfizi@aol.com Message-ID: <0.258f925b.2547ba66@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:16:06 EDT Subject: Re: Zendrum/losing the box To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"8eYAL.0.q23.l2c5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Futureman from Bela Fleck and the Flecktones uses the Zendrum for audio samples that aren't specifically percussion oriented (these are saved on his Synthaxe Drumitar, his main axe). He mainly uses the Zendrum during his solos, when a touch of a pad produces a melody from a South African choir, or a sampled Gandhi speech. I always thought it was a cool instrument. ~kris From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:41:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18717; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:41:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:41:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38161D8D.CDB640D2@gis.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:31:07 +0100 From: Paul Sullivan Reply-To: paulsull@gis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: delay questions References: <199910240036.UAA08314@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nOisz.0.Sv3.ZFc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Some more questions for those more knowledgeable about the nature of loops and analog/digital delay units. Can a loop be sped up or slowed down only if the delay time is adjustable with a knob? Is every delay that has knobs capable of being sped up/slowed down? I assume the position of the delay time knob (at the time of the loop recording) would determine the degree to which the loop could be sped up/ slowed down (in the middle would mean it could be raised or lowered the same amount, etc.). Most digital loops seem to destruct when you try to change the delay time-are there any (except the EH 16 sec delay) that are able to do this? Has anyone overcome these limitations by using a pitch shifter the loop, and if so, which model (s) seem to work best for the thick texture of a multi-overdubbed loop? Thanks for your time, Paul Sullivan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 22:41:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18685; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:41:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:41:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002e01bf2022$f95f1c00$346fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: Zendrum/losing the box Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:28:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"_GSZA3.0.Jz3.ZHc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There is one problem i see with running all of those instruments into a g3. i run my zen into a dm pro with 64 voice polophiny and still run out some times. ie....sounds cutting off to fast. could a g4 with any software keep up with so many midi input??? "Wow! Thanks for pointing the Zendrum out to me. I'm ashamed to say that I'd never heard of it before, but it sure looks cool! Great, now I have another item for my wish list. Hmmm.... 2 Sticks and 2 Zendrummers, all wired to a Cray-2... could be slightly interesting... " From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:05:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24426; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:05:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:05:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:02:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"M1OMr3.0.PD5.2bc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:49 PM 10/26/99, Mark Landman wrote: > >Because if the minutae of the instruments we loop with is up for posting, >I'll be forced to start ranting about the analog filters in my Fenix >synthesizer and how they compare to Moog, Arp and Roland filters (trust me >folks, we don't want to go there). > >Mark Oooh yeah, can I rant about my MOTM filters? Coolest I've ever used! Filters! Filters! Filters (and you may be thinking about establishing an e-mail filter right about now...) ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:19:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27243; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:19:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:19:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2b7d177e.2547c4ce@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:00:30 EDT Subject: Re: OT: recording in India To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"z43x12.0.lk5.6ic5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/27/99 12:09:10 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, Echopark99@aol.com writes: << I'm leaving for Calcutta environs on Monday for about three weeks. I'm bringing a DAT and stereo mics. >> how nice!..........eric, please find out for me, what caste guitar players fit into?......you are right in taking the DAT and the stereo mics but please leave those damn strings at home.......:)........will you be able to post to the group from india?........i think looping up-dates from afar would be fun........i look forward to hearing the loops of your labor........enjoy..........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:26:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29358; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38162844.C61792E@texas.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:16:40 +0000 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: is it the moon? References: <0.a599f256.2547a7fb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"TP1dG2.0.LY6.Vvc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the moon is looking mighty fine tonight as it makes yet one more tick on its endless loop around earth, no hardware needed. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:26:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29371; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:11:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Boss VF-1? Resent-Message-ID: <"n20DE1.0.3G6.Jqc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From initial info the Boss VF-1 seems to be the successor to the SE-50/70 line, and as such would be a formidable gizmo, perhaps even as a looper. Has anyone actually seen one of these puppies? Or is it still in vapor mode a la the Line 6 modeling pedals? David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:26:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29402; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ca01bf2027$a47afc40$346fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: Zendrum/losing the box Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:02:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"vgJbL1.0.906.7nc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Futureman from Bela Fleck is of by far who i listen to the most. he in fact played on mine while it was in the shop for upgrades. there is little differance between the zen and his ax except shape. once you get use to playing one a certain way namely the one he created I see no reason why he would switch over to a new one. in the end they are both just a bunch of triggers on a block of wood. with all the sounds availble you can get any drumset soulnd you want. the problem with it is to get the band to stop freaking out because you don't have a huge metal eriter set called a "drumset" on stage. if only i could find a banjo player and a bass player that played like Vic..........oh to dream. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:26:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29370; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:26:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00de01bf2029$0f92f360$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: <199910240036.UAA08314@rosy.yourwebhost.com> <38161D8D.CDB640D2@gis.net> Subject: Re: delay questions Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:12:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"9w9Of2.0.EX6.Evc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My little DOD DFX 94 (probably the simplest looping hardware of all) has a knob for adjusting the delay time (up to 4 seconds). Turning the knob while a loop is going doesn't "destroy" the loop, and in fact can create some wild sounds that couldn't be obtained any other way. How good or bad it sounds when the delay time changes is very variable, but of course you can always put it back to its original position if it sounds like shite. Something I just discovered is that if you turn the delay-time knob back and forth, while sustaining a note on your instrument (I don't want to use the word "guitar" right now!), it causes insane whammy dives/leaps that'll put Adrian Belew in his place (actually, I think he used to use this same technique a lot). Perhaps not the most overtly musical way to use a delay pedal, but it sure sounds cool! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Sullivan To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 5:31 PM Subject: delay questions > Some more questions for those more knowledgeable about the nature of loops and > analog/digital delay units. Can a loop be sped up or slowed down only if the delay > time is adjustable with a knob? Is every delay that has knobs capable of being > sped up/slowed down? I assume the position of the delay time knob (at the time of > the loop recording) would determine the degree to which the loop could be sped up/ > slowed down (in the middle would mean it could be raised or lowered the same > amount, etc.). > > Most digital loops seem to destruct when you try to change the delay time-are > there any (except the EH 16 sec delay) that are able to do this? Has anyone > overcome these limitations by using a pitch shifter the loop, and if so, which > model (s) seem to work best for the thick texture of a multi-overdubbed loop? > > Thanks for your time, > Paul Sullivan > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:27:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29507; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:27:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:27:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991026230949.1526.qmail@hotmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:15:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) Resent-Message-ID: <"848il1.0.WN6.Huc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >jeeze, it's not like these guys were exchanging urls for pay porn sites. they >were talking shop -- loopers discussing an instrument they use in looping. >the list name, which you patronizingly pointed out, is "looper's delight". >how is that so off-topic? But when we have to wade through about 60 posts a day--y'know? Hell, I just got A JOB and have to spend an increased amount of time feeling sorry for myself; there's only so many hours in a day.... David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:25:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA28737; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:25:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:25:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: WshaUfizi@aol.com Message-ID: <0.ae9f494.2547c8a8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:16:56 EDT Subject: A question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"Upj2L1.0.Md6.Xxc5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone have any recommendations for the best place to buy a rack to hold my crap? Thanks a lot, ~kris From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Oct 26 23:42:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00815; Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:42:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:42:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:37:48 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Stuff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"3ozJ-1.0.In7.-Ed5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HE MADE ME CRY BECAUSE HE MOCKED MY GUITAR PLAYING LOUDLY TO FRIENDS. Nevermind. Neanderthal behavior mode off. I tried an instrument tonight that I think all of you should try out because it gave me the same reaction I had when I tried the Vortex in years past. I think it would make a great textural looping instrument. I'm primarily a guitarist, but I also play synths and I tried a synth that was very strange this afternoon, an Ensoniq Fizmo. Damn weirdo device. I couldn't for the life of me make it act normal at all. No conventional strings, brasses, or moog sounds here. No way. Instead, giant shimmering sheets of molten metal rippling in the solar wind, harpsichords made out of lead and cadmium, and the sound of glass oozing through an ionospheric medium. I mean, what the hell were they thinking? Anyone try using one in a top40 band would be shot on sight. Anyone looking for oozing, fluidic, metallic, shimmering atmospheres has at least gotta check it out. Kind of like a PPG Wave on hallucinogens. The funniest thing was these knobs corresponding to the name of the device, an f knob, an I knob, a z knob, and so on. And it was like it was designed to mess with my head as one knob would change the PITCH on certain patches and others would boost the ultra-piercing highs this thing was capable of and still others did stuff that sounded like it was ring modulating some notes in a patch (but not others), and I'm not sure I can describe the other sounds but it would really be cool looped thru a vortex into some other looping processor. I'm not fully convinced I figured it out, but I at least made it sound musical. And it was about $1000. I suspect that someday it will be blown out in a guitar center sale because nobody could figure it out. It's really weird. Back to your regularly scheduled looping content. -t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 00:06:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA06441; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:06:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:06:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ac01bf202e$eb5899e0$2d32dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991026220321.007ada90@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:54:06 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"XyJv23.0.Vt.-Td5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim Nelson asked: > are any of you > using innovative racks/pedalboards/stands/cases that transport, set up and > tear down particularly well? On a recent trip to Reno, I used a regular large duffel bag with dual compartments to transport my rack units (the rds 7.6 and the qverb, wrapped in blankets), a stomp box, and cables. It worked well, considering that I'd not had the time to think out this very query in advance. To ease concerns amongst you that I've completely lost my mind, I've thought of getting one of those rack/transport boxes that open at both ends. It doesn't take much time to take down-put up, though I've also thought of using coloured cables and dabs of similarly-coloured paint on the sockets; but then, if it's already hooked up in the back the way yez wants it that's even taken care of. I should point out that, on the occasions I've played live and electric, it's been with other folks, and I've only used two In's on their mixer board, using only the guitar for sound source. To transport the rig I've got at home - which includes a Juno-106, RX-15, Shure SM52, a Tascam Portastudio with bad belts being used for a mixer, in conjunction with a cheap mixer (Yamaha KM502) on an 80s-era Ultimate Support rack - is so much of a pain that I've configured the living room more as a playing space lately... :) Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 00:13:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08486; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:13:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:13:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <0.70d23e18.2547d25b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:58:19 EDT Subject: Re: delay questions and detritus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"So9Hk.0.EC1.GYd5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/26/1999 10:25:58 PM Central Daylight Time, shindler@mediaone.net writes: << Perhaps not the most overtly musical way to use a delay pedal, but it sure sounds cool! >> Hey, any way to mangle the equipment that doesn't break it is fair game in my book. Let me fling far my bibliography (for my book, that is): 1. Duke said: "if it sounds good, it IS good". 2. torn is on this list, i believe he will concur. My book includes both duke and dt. So please rotate all knobs fully at any time during the program. (And for chrissakes, dont play whole tones over the D9#11 in 'A-Train', it's banal.) And that post about everyone playing something into a big electric funnel (or a G3, if you must) and stirring: isn't that what the Wire reunion is going to sound like? I know that Bruce Gilbert says he doesn't play the guitar anymore, so maybe he'll just trim the pots, so to speak. Kevin Brunkhorst http://members .aol.com/kb305/kb305/ Red Road the band http://r edroad.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 00:44:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19417; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:44:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:44:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009401bf2034$2e400900$344badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Stuff Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:31:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"9lxA51.0.VW3.R_d5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, pretty neat atmosphere machine. I think you're probably right about people not being able to figure out what to do with it - Musician's Friend is blowing them out already for $499! There's also an audio input for "vocoderizing" vocals or processing yer geetar :) My hunch is that the Fizmo could make up it's mind about whether it wanted to be a Virtual Analog or a Groove Box. The F-I-Z... buttons you mentioned are assignable to parameters for real-time tweaking. The FIZMO has instant 'classic' weirdo-machine written all over it. It's such a piece of crap with great potential. I'm giving it another look. I want to try feeding the output of the machine into audio-input to see what happens...heh heh heh. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 11:58 PM Subject: Stuff >HE MADE ME CRY BECAUSE HE MOCKED MY GUITAR PLAYING LOUDLY TO FRIENDS. > >Nevermind. Neanderthal behavior mode off. > >I tried an instrument tonight that I think all of you should try out >because it gave me the same reaction I had when I tried the Vortex >in years past. > >I think it would make a great textural looping instrument. > >I'm primarily a guitarist, but I also play synths and I tried a synth >that was very strange this afternoon, an Ensoniq Fizmo. > >Damn weirdo device. I couldn't for the life of me make it act normal >at all. No conventional strings, brasses, or moog sounds here. No >way. > > Instead, giant shimmering sheets of molten metal rippling in the >solar wind, harpsichords made out of lead and cadmium, and the sound of >glass oozing through an ionospheric medium. I mean, what the hell were >they thinking? Anyone try using one in a top40 band would be shot on >sight. Anyone looking for oozing, fluidic, metallic, shimmering >atmospheres has at least gotta check it out. Kind of like a PPG Wave >on hallucinogens. > >The funniest thing was these knobs corresponding to the name of the >device, an f knob, an I knob, a z knob, and so on. And it was like it >was designed to mess with my head as one knob would change the PITCH >on certain patches and others would boost the ultra-piercing highs this >thing was capable of and still others did stuff that sounded like it >was ring modulating some notes in a patch (but not others), and I'm >not sure I can describe the other sounds but it would really be cool >looped thru a vortex into some other looping processor. > >I'm not fully convinced I figured it out, but I at least made it sound >musical. And it was about $1000. I suspect that someday it will be blown >out in a guitar center sale because nobody could figure it out. It's >really weird. > >Back to your regularly scheduled looping content. > >-t > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 00:46:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19791; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:46:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:46:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a401bf2034$e18ac720$344badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:36:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"jvDgO3.0.n34.74e5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have you looked into an SKB Mini Gig Rig? Rugged and reasonably priced (under $200) - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 10:15 PM Subject: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics >Okay, back to looping.... > >We discuss individual pieces of looping gear a great deal, but when it >comes to containing it and carrying it around as a system, are any of you >using innovative racks/pedalboards/stands/cases that transport, set up and >tear down particularly well? Any ideas that would benefit a looper playing >on a multiple bill (you know, 6 acts on a crowded stage with ten minutes to >set up between, and no sound check...)? Ways to "smallerize", yet retain >versatility? Original ways to avoid having to unpack, plug in, unplug and >re-pack every patch cord every time ya play out? Effective methods for >making sure that all of your equipment ends up making it home from the gig >with you? > >Tim > >P.S.: HE ALWAYS STOPES STRANGERS ON THE STREET AND MAKE THEM LOOK AT HIS >CALLOUS FINGRS FROM USEING THICK HEVY STRINGS WITH NEW STANDERD TUNNING... > >(sorry...) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 00:47:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20063; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:47:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:47:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000901bf2035$a2a76c60$6c2c5dd8@u01vj> From: "Pete" To: References: Subject: Re:gig plug-ann arbor!! Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:42:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"oO9Kw.0.1i4.TBe5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey- Ann Arbor!!! Looping & other interesting sounds!!! Actually it is in Ypsi, but close enough eh? """"The Elbow Room"""" Mich Ave @ "The Tap Room", / "T.c.'s Speak Easy" Turn south!!! Parking on your left !! You wont regret it! Bowed Double Bass (*Acoustic) Electric guitar Female Vocals Marimba Conga's Electric Bass Keyboards Synth's Live Drum Kit Etc.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 00:48:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20516; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:48:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:48:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991026234025.007d29e0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:40:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: SoundRaider In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991026220321.007ada90@pop.ici.net> References: <0.e6dacc91.2540e25e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kJXwu2.0.tk4.tCe5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... Here's something that everyone will be interested in. It's a really, really strange little program that takes all your WAV files and creates and ever-changing loop or noise and chaos. Incredible. I've had it on all evening and it's still freaking me out. Here's the URL for downloads and info: http://andyw.zinc.co.uk/raider/ Lemme know what ya think and how it works for you folks. Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 01:23:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28203; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:23:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:23:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <0.8a048fc5.2547df3d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:53:17 EDT Subject: boomerang on harmony To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"pYiWB.0.rL5.6Me5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler Looper pedal Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Good Age: N/A Description: Boomerang phrase sampler pedal with 4 meg, works great, some paint chips on the metal from use....$300 obo Seller: LENNY STEVENS, E-mail: scurry@airmail.net (Profile) Location: DALLAS, TX Post Date: 10/26/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 01:22:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28036; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:22:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:22:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991026234633.007d3930@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:46:33 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991026220321.007ada90@pop.ici.net> References: <0.e6dacc91.2540e25e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"a6yeG1.0.L65.cIe5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, In reply to the question about small, useful setups: I've managed to cram all my pedals (including a Boomerang . . . on topic, on topic, on topic!!!) onto a homemade plexiglass board unit. The stay completely wired through a simple switch box. It's also easy to rewire and get different results with this. Right now, I've got the signal split in two, so that it can feed two different amps. My direct, effected signal goes into a Line 6 AxSys 212 combo, and my effected loops go out to a small Carvin 1x15 bass combo. My setup is still pretty small, yet I can do everything that I would normally do through a large rig. All the harmonizing, pitch-shifting, looping and generally unfriendly noise that I could ever want. And, after loading in, it only takes me about 10 minutes to set up. Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 01:23:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28175; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:23:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:23:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1529d025.2547de95@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 00:50:29 EDT Subject: jam man on harmony To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"6L1It.0.C85.XJe5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com from harmony central: Lexicon Jam Man, 8 seconds -excellent condition with photocopied manual...$500 US obo. Seller: Robert Brasz, (416)516-9538 E-mail: eelirak@yesic.com (Profile) Post Date: 10/26/99 (do not email me, email eelirak@yesic.com) thanks jack From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 01:54:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02044; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:54:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:54:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MDMwoof@aol.com Message-ID: <0.88f84cd5.2547eae7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:43:03 EDT Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"LQaBj3.0.2v7.c4f5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com rob- I'm interested in purchasing your echoplex. What is your price and terms? Tim (mdmwoof@aol.com) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 02:18:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07066; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:18:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:18:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <013301bf1ffe$35be9560$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:10:21 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. (POLAR!) Resent-Message-ID: <"Q_lTr.0.lx.vMf5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Sounds like an idea that I can't get out of my head, ridiculous as it is. I >envision a band consisting of 2 guitars (ideally Sticks or Warrs, but >whatever) equipped with synth pickups, and a drummer using a V-Drum kit. >Instead of each player having his own rack of effects, samplers, et al... >EVERYONE's signal goes into one G3 Powerbook, which has all the sound >samples and looping software onboard, and then a simple controller for each >person to manipulate his own signal and loops. Plus, since everyone's got >access to the same sounds, the drummer could use guitar/bass patches, and >vice versa. For a bonus, you could even let a fourth person sit at the >computer and act as a DJ, controlling the loops and manipulating the sounds >in real-time while the other three play. yes,yes, and 1 pedal board/musician chained to the USB port with a display on it that is controlled by the computer to tell you what function each foot switch has at the moment. >Is such a thing even technically possible? And, if so, how much moolah >would all this crap cost? Certainly less than all the samplers and mixing desks you economize. But what if it crashes? Take a break. Maybe not too bad. The worst is when the sound hangs at the crash....Piiiiiii ! >> In May, David Caplivski had a dream (below). Did you someone else realize >it? >> >> >>Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Here's a suggestion: >> >> > >> >> > Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in >the >> >> > software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it >> >> > sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version >of >> >> > the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could >> >> > sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. >> >> > >> >> > Is this possible? >> >> >> >>Its probably possible >> >>but then the loopers delight would be transformed in a bug report, >> >>computer configuration hell , all the fatiguing background noize you >> >>see/hear in every music software forum >> >> >> >>remember there is no bug in the EDP software v5 (there is one but I wont >> >>tell !):-) >> >> >> >>Claude >> >> >> >> >Couldn't someone run a labtop (i.e. G3 powerbook) with running Digital >> >Performer's P.O.L.A.R. software (performance orietated looping audio >> >recording) fullly equiped with a recording gate and automatic loop >playback >> >functions and achieve more because of the computer's memory and other >> >feature's. It's an expensive proposition but one I'm looking into because >> >the idea of having a portable studio and synthesizer and looping brain is >my >> >holy grail right now. The problem I foresee with POLAR's recording gate >> >function is not so much start times but stop times. But then again you >> >could bypass this function and manually trigger start and stop times. >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________________________ >> >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >> >> >> >> >> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org >> >> ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 02:18:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07087; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:18:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:18:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991022063612.007a7660@pop.ici.net> References: <012201bf1be7$2e448120$392310ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:10:21 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Low action Foot Switches Resent-Message-ID: <"cbl9J3.0.-w.lMf5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >As sort of a followup to my question about muffling the noise of these big >clunky switches (EH stuff, too), does anyone know of a quieter alternative >that can be swapped in without too much modification? (i.e. supplier/part # >or anything like that...) I have a feeling we're out of luck on this one, >as the ideal thing would probably require the additional circuitry of >electronic switching, but it's worth asking. Anyone? > >Tim > >At 02:19 AM 10/22/99 -0700, you wrote: >... The unfortunate thing about the headrush is >>it uses those big clunky switches that are difficult to tap with accuracy. >>You have to stomp; it's much easier to be accurate with a light and relaxed >>tap. With all the other foot activated loopers the designers seemed to have >>thought of this point, and carefully selected switches that can easily be >>tapped with rhythmic accuracy.... I never looked at headrush but we modified footswitches at PARADIS. The important about acuracy is the short action of the switch. The contact should be made as soon as you hit it. So we used keyboard style flat membrane tiny switches. Since they are small, its easy to find a place for them in a existing heavy foot pedal mechanism. Then you have to limit the action of this existing mechanic to protect the switch which is far to sensible to support a foot. Probably its enough to glue some little piece of anything in the right spot of the mechanism (look and think...;-). Matthias ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 02:19:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07218; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:19:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:19:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <38163C2F.A212EC80@minds-eye.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:10:21 -0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Hendrix Strings Resent-Message-ID: <"bLcGE2.0.4y.xMf5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >To paraphrase Jimi, > >"strings can be such a drag so tonight were just gonna play like they aren't >there" > >Kevin hahaha, I did not know that one. Did he really say that on a gig? ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 02:20:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA07355; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:20:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:20:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38169782.455B@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:11:14 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: THANKS FOR THE TAPE!!! References: <0.464b4afa.2547b9b7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XgCn-.0.oE1.ITf5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com uh..That would be me... Lahara Mandala(thanks Tim!) was the name we settled on,partly because it leaves things open for other collaborations(Mandalas=circles=loops) It's me(bass and loops) and Roland Robles (Tabla and Urdu)tape running the 2nd time we played together. Thanks for the Thanks:) Scott Kungha Drengsen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 06:03:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15774; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:03:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:03:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: spat@visi.com Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991027095736.0068a04c@pop.visi.com> X-Sender: spat@pop.visi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:57:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring Resent-Message-ID: <"ZSEFA2.0.Xd3.voi5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim wrote: > You can check a 9v battery with your tongue, too, Is there a proper name for the feeling that is produced from doing that? I want to use it as a band name. It's also cool to do between shots of tequila, try it. steve From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 06:38:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21813; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:38:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:38:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38175124.1AD7DB3C@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:23:16 -0700 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (peace and love said jimmi) References: <001101bf200e$4f6c6cc0$d696adce@satellite> <19991027005326.89488.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yLrSp3.0.LE5.bKj5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com CH I want to add a peaceful message to you (hang on I'm serious please) If I (me) would have recieved the same message from Kim I would just hang my face a big smile and agree because of the humour of the message I would get it this way because I'm around in loopers delight for 2 years now and this has never been an agressive list but a deep and funny crowd of individuals don't be offended; just hang around here for the topics and the fine crowd. Claude chalchiuhtlicue wrote: > > 1) it did conform to the subject - it was loopers talking about their looping > rigs. the instrument one uses to feed sounds into the loop is a large portion > of the rig. the posters weren't exchanging pie recipes, they were loopers who > were talking shop. > > 2) it wasn't a gentle rebuke. he insulted half the list subscribers in a > patronizing way. I'm sorry, but it's hard not to take that as a rant, and > it's offensive. I don't care if he's the listkeeper or not. he accuses > guitarists for not apologizing for going off subject, and at the same time he > doesn't apologize for his attitude or indicate in any way that he is being > facetious. Sorry, Tom, but I simply don't buy it. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 06:46:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA23436; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:46:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:46:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991027064057.007a8280@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:40:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19991027095736.0068a04c@pop.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"IjaZJ1.0.oW5.ZSj5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Maybe "Lingual Tingle"? (OFF TOPIC!) At 04:57 AM 10/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >Tim wrote: >> You can check a 9v battery with your tongue, too, > > Is there a proper name for the feeling that is produced from doing that? I want to use it >as a band name. It's also cool to do between shots of tequila, try it. > >steve > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 07:23:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA30352; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:23:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:23:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991027111912.257.rocketmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Line 6 DL-4 at AMS To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"PZb1a2.0.YB7.S-j5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.americanmusical.com catalog # lindl4 price: $249.99 Be the first kid on your block to have one! John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 08:19:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08731; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:19:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:19:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jprice01@aol.com Message-ID: <0.cfb01bd1.254845b5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:10:29 EDT Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"-oEYk2.0.3d1.elk5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I apparently got my headrush nicked sat nite. & yes, sometimes gear does not make it back. we made the mistake of packing up our equipment and then leaving it unattended and out of eyeshot after we played - big mistake- we should have loaded out immediately after we finished playing but we were all pretty beat & wanted to see the other bands and DJ's that were playing. I've been doing a lot of acoustic stuff thruout this week and didnt bother unpacking my electro rig for electrified stuff until last nites full band practice and then it hit me when i went to plug in the rack gear and floor units - the headrush was gone and at that point, it wuz probably long gone. back to the music store again and ouch ! the $169 price tag is not that big but its still money that could have been saved or spent elsewhere. I have never had any music gear ever stolen but theres a first time for everything. I'd say that i'm going to have an inventory of my live rig and use a cklist of things to go thru before i finally say i'm finished packing and run off for the nite. JP JP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 08:26:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10034; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:26:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:26:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.89813bf0.254847b2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:18:58 EDT Subject: Re: delay questions and detritus To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"5Uj742.0.592.dtk5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ><< Perhaps not the most overtly musical way to use a >delay pedal, but it sure sounds cool! >> whichall begs the (?rhetorical?) question: is there *any* technique (or technology) that **is** 'overtly musical? also: re: the subject: said technique --(that of modulating the loop's 'delay' time)-- tis nice discovery, neh? this is a well-established one for all kindsa musictechfolk, e.g. dj's, gitfiddlers, bassbusters, drumboppers, fiddlers, keyrollers, microprocessioneers, etc. >Hey, any way to mangle the equipment that doesn't break >it is fair game in my >book. Let me fling far my bibliography (for my >book,that is): >1. Duke said: "if it sounds good, it IS good". >2. torn is on this list, i believe he will concur. yup: i concur, though: i have broken stuff, occasionally, & the 'breaking' sounded better to me than the surrounding music that i had intended. glurp, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 08:46:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA14444; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:46:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:46:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991027083844.0095a560@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:39:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics In-Reply-To: <0.cfb01bd1.254845b5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"Rxzwc2.0.qE3.3Cl5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:10 AM 10/27/99 -0400, Jprice01@aol.com wrote: >I apparently got my headrush nicked sat nite. & yes, sometimes gear does not >make it back. Man, I hope you just misplaced it somehow and that it turns up. Having gear stolen (or anything) really makes you feel violated. **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** http://www.studiodust.com palace://studiodust.com:9996 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 09:26:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23551; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:26:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:26:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381776AE.300074D7@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:03:26 -0700 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics References: <0.e6dacc91.2540e25e@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.19991026234633.007d3930@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ztSQi1.0.255.Ehl5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com An idea when you're cool at home make yourself a cassette tape with all the connections to make given to you by your sexy voice made up in a logical way according to your rig then at set up time play it thru your walkman and do whatever it says now you can say: yes yes I can setup in 12mn 22secs exactly !! and not forget anything Claude PS: the dictaphone trick is an old live sound engineer trick to remember the state of the desk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 09:40:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27402; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:40:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:40:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Lcbois@aol.com Message-ID: <0.152a315f.2548585c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:30:04 EDT Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"9gMQB.0.O36.Uwl5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com $1000. for unit and footpedal(oberheim) i pay shipping. if interested call me at 404 231 5214 after 11 am est for details. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 10:45:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10059; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:45:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:45:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: "Loopers' Delight" Subject: Recommendation Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 07:30:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01bf2087$c2891220$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"98jOm3.0.6Z1.8om5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For those who hate being in Loopers' Delight, and hate talking about loops and related matters, try this on for size: > > Start Your Own FREE Email List at http://www.listbot.com/ AND STOP POSTING "REMOVE" MESSAGES YOU LAZY BUMS. Javier Miranda Berkeley, California United States From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 10:45:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10060; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:45:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:45:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7EB@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 09:24:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"9lYMU1.0.lK1.Ujm5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey tim Nelson, Someone suggested an interesting mod for the boomerang pedalboard. this one would involve using a momentary switch on the record/play swutch. This way, when you step on it , it would record, and when you release it would play. Is this mod possible? Would improve the timing a bit? Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 9:03 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics Okay, back to looping.... We discuss individual pieces of looping gear a great deal, but when it comes to containing it and carrying it around as a system, are any of you using innovative racks/pedalboards/stands/cases that transport, set up and tear down particularly well? Any ideas that would benefit a looper playing on a multiple bill (you know, 6 acts on a crowded stage with ten minutes to set up between, and no sound check...)? Ways to "smallerize", yet retain versatility? Original ways to avoid having to unpack, plug in, unplug and re-pack every patch cord every time ya play out? Effective methods for making sure that all of your equipment ends up making it home from the gig with you? Tim P.S.: HE ALWAYS STOPES STRANGERS ON THE STREET AND MAKE THEM LOOK AT HIS CALLOUS FINGRS FROM USEING THICK HEVY STRINGS WITH NEW STANDERD TUNNING... (sorry...) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 11:07:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16087; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:07:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 11:07:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991027150620.1346.rocketmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: m1cha3l@earthlink.net Subject: on being OT To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"83jmX.0.VO3.pDn5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all - Sorry, I am the one who started the strings thread. I also recently started a thread on wrist injuries, the GT-3 and, come to think of it, practically everything I've ever posted to the list has not been loop-related. In my defense, that's because I can't seem to get ahold of a ^*&R&*$^%! EDP. Hopefully, that will change very shortly, at which point I may be able to contribute some on-topic posts. I have to say that this list has been immensely helpful to me as a player, and I think we all owe Kim a lot for keeping it running. And, from being on some software lists full of newbies asking unrelated questions, I can definitley emphasize with those loopers who already know their gear, their strings, and a hell of a lot of other stuff, and just want to talk about looping here, but have to wade through a million posts that aren't particularly relevant. If Kim or anyone else knows of another list that is as relatively low traffic ( I get 4-7 digests a DAY from the evil list I mentioned above), with as many helpful quality people on it, I will happily post all offtopic guitar topics there. If not, I'll still try to restrain myself from polluting this list when it's not relevant. I expect to get ahold of an EDP soon, at which point I should be full of on-topic questions... Thanks, MT PS: At the same time, I do appreciate the answers I got on strings. Thanks! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 12:31:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04843; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:31:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:31:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003c01bf2096$f9c8e8a0$174badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Hendrix Strings Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:18:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"8EcOr2.0.IG.EMo5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Didn't Jimi also say "'scuse me while I puke and die"? - LT -----Original Message----- From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:57 AM Subject: Re: Hendrix Strings >>To paraphrase Jimi, >> >>"strings can be such a drag so tonight were just gonna play like they aren't >>there" >> >>Kevin > >hahaha, I did not know that one. Did he really say that on a gig? > > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 13:00:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12383; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:00:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:00:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910271650.MAA09710@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Apparently-From: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:19:52 +0530 Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. From: "Drew Skyfyre" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"g_xjO3.0.NO2.aro5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > EVERYONE's signal goes into one G3 Powerbook etc.... > Is such a thing even technically possible? And, if so, how much moolah > would all this crap cost? Forgedaboudid. Little thing called latency. U know, the time lag between your signal goin in & your signal comin out. True, you can reduce latency by using high performance sound cards, but not really good enough. PLus, we're talkin' computers here, system crashes, freezes, & what not. Not a good thing for live performance. Which is why, despite all ze hoopla, computers still have a way to go. And hardware solutions still rule. BUT THERE IS A SOLUTION TO ALL YOUR LOOPING (& OTHER) GEAR FANTASIES ! http://www.symbolicsound.com Get Kyma for $3300 (base model with 4 Motorola 80MHz DSP chips & 96MB of RAM, 4 audio ins & outs, extremely powerful). Can be later expanded (one $700, 2 DSP, 48MB RAM card at a time) to a max. of 28 DSPs. This one box can serve as ultimate synth, sequencer, sampler, looper, composition tool, coffee maker, etc. All at the same time ! You have to hook it up to a computer, (PC or Mac, desktop or laptop, & it doesn't have to be a powerful one either) because that's what the graphical user interface runs on. No processing takes place in your computer. You can use your computer's hard drive to store your data though. $3300 may seem like a lot of money, but even a Kurzweil K2600 can do but a fraction of what Kyma can. Among their benchmarks for the base model is listed the capablility to do 70 (mono) voices of sampling. You can build some pretty freaky Echoplexes-out-of-a-dream in Kyma with this kind of power ! Imagine having the ability to incorporate LFOs, resonant filters, toy with the speed, pitch, direction, whatever of your loops in real time. > Hmmm.... 2 Sticks and 2 Zendrummers, all wired to a Cray-2... could be > slightly interesting... ;) Nah, forget the Cray, Kyma can do everything you dream of & replace a studio full of gear. BTW, it's the same DSP chips the Nord & Novation (& Waldorf I thnk) synths run on. But here in an open environment. Little bitty bit of a review at http://www.keyboardmag.com/demos/kyma/kyma.shtml Drool on ! - Drew -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Drew Skyfyre songwriter, webmaster, happy human Skyfyre 2.0: http://skyfyre.lookscool.com email: drew_skyfyre@yahoo.com Xenharmonic Engines : microtonality/xenharmonics http://microtonal.lookscool.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 12:59:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12169; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:59:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:59:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910271650.MAA09715@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Apparently-From: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:26:39 +0530 Subject: Re: Yamaha SU700 From: "Drew Skyfyre" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"y-kDk1.0.nO2.ero5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the info, Kim, DT. I found a review (of sorts) at : http://www.keyboardmag.com/demos/su700/su700.shtml Looks like the SU700 is pretty close to pointless. The A3000 is infinitely better, but not for real-time of course. There's also a review of the Lexicon MPX-G2 at : http://www.guitarplayer.com/archive/gear/bench9904.htm Nice, but only 20 seconds (non-upgradable ?) The MPX-G2 seems to be the best all-in-one solution. Plus the ability to do create very starnge sounds with lots of tweakability is most important to me, personally. I'm not all that concerned about replicating the sound of a Marshall. But soon as I can spare $3300, I'm getting the Kyma system. http://www.symbolicsound.com - Drew -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Drew Skyfyre songwriter, webmaster, happy human Skyfyre 2.0: http://skyfyre.lookscool.com email: drew_skyfyre@yahoo.com Xenharmonic Engines : microtonality/xenharmonics http://microtonal.lookscool.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:08:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30580; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:08:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:08:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:29:52 -0500 Subject: Looping gigs in Austin, TX, USA this week From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Yr-IE.0.Q15.8Rp5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For those of you in the area, I'll be looping acoustic guitar through a Boomerang at the former Covert Buick building on 5th Street, providing lobby and intermission music for Ariel Dance Theatre's production of "Sound Paintings" on Thursday and Saturday (7:30PM) and Sunday (2:30) PM. On Friday, Futura (guitar, bass, DJ) will play at Mojo's Daily Grind (27th and Guadalupe) between 9PM and 1AM. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:08:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30572; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:08:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:08:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <0.eef6632d.2548950c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:49:00 EDT Subject: Re: Off-topic: Home Electrical Wiring To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"IQHp31.0.6D6.Njp5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com or......cunning lingual tingula... Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:43:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07650; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:43:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:43:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:54:14 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a Mailing List) In-reply-to: <19991026230949.1526.qmail@hotmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: Resent-Message-ID: <"O0NOt3.0.Px6.0tp5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >jeeze, it's not like these guys were exchanging urls for pay porn sites. they >were talking shop -- loopers discussing an instrument they use in looping. >the list name, which you patronizingly pointed out, is "looper's delight". >how is that so off-topic? > >in fact, in this whole thread, your own post makes you look most like who you >describe when you insult half the people on this list -- a ranting, >self-important, calloused jerk. > >if this is the sort of tone you wish to set here then unsubscribe me. because >it is you who are off-topic. at least until you change the list name to >Loopers-Full-Of-Themselves. > >thanks, >ch Well, I must say, I practically had tears in my eyes from laughing over this whole thing. You may want to peruse the famous Netiquette guide by Arlene Rinaldi, especially the section on mailing list etiquette: http://www.fau.edu/netiquette/net/dis.html Very smart advice from decades of collective wisdom on how these things work. Those of you who haven't checked it in a while may wist to review. Some great points from Arlene: ******************************************************************* - Keep your questions and comments relevant to the focus of the discussion group. - If another person posts a comment or question that is off the subject, do NOT reply to the list and keep the off- subject conversation going publicly. [This next one is my favorite, people are so predictable....] - When someone posts an off-subject note, and someone else criticizes that posting, you should NOT submit a gratuitous note saying "well, I liked it and lots of people probably did as well and you guys ought to lighten up and not tell us to stick to the subject". [And finally, since Mr. CH only subscribed on Monday, this next one should be particularly relavant...] - When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are deemed off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel comfortable with the group, then start posting. ******************************************************************** A lot more good advice there, check it out. And yes, I am an asshole. My daddy was an asshole before me, and his daddy an asshole before him. Very long, proud asshole tradition. You'll just have to get over it. ;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:45:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08063; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:45:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:45:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991027180619.30329.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.90.217.28] From: "chalchiuhtlicue" To: References: <001101bf200e$4f6c6cc0$d696adce@satellite> <19991027005326.89488.qmail@hotmail.com> <38175124.1AD7DB3C@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (peace and love said jimmi) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:09:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"WUhi42.0.SR7.Qzp5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com k ----- Original Message ----- From: Claude Voit To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (peace and love said jimmi) > CH > I want to add a peaceful message to you (hang on I'm serious please) > If I (me) would have recieved the same message from Kim I would just > hang my face a big smile and agree because of the humour of the > message > I would get it this way because I'm around in loopers delight for 2 > years now and this has never been an agressive list but a deep and funny > crowd of individuals > > don't be offended; just hang around here for the topics and the fine > crowd. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:49:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09427; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:49:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:49:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <016301bf20a8$eebc0fc0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Yamaha SU700 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:27:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"a8jsL3.0.-u.DHq5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Drew, >But soon as I can spare $3300, I'm >getting the Kyma system. http://www.symbolicsound.com I've looked at Kyma before and I've been really impressed. How soon do you think you'll get one and how's about posting a review? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:45:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08239; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:45:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:45:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991027180556.81443.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.90.217.28] From: "chalchiuhtlicue" To: References: <003c01bf2096$f9c8e8a0$174badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Subject: Re: Hendrix Strings Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:09:29 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"TatrG.0.DQ7.7zp5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think he just did that one without telegraphing it.. sometimes actions speak louder than words! poor Jimi ----- Original Message ----- From: L Tremblay To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Hendrix Strings > Didn't Jimi also say "'scuse me while I puke and die"? > > - LT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:46:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08426; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:46:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:46:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:03:45 -0400 Subject: Live Gig Rig Logistics From: "klowy@wrinklemuzik" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-q60c2.0.xF7.Iyp5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com although i'm (i'm sure we all are) always trying to find an easier way, my current set up for live usage is to put all the rack stuff in two racks (one is too heavy). the main rack has the following: EDP harmonizer ART SG2000 switchblade GL all of the cables are wrapped inside the rack. the ones that have to go external devices are marked, and there is a snake that goes to the floor effects (all cable ends are clearly marked). the secured rack has the amp, a 2nd EDP, tuner and jamMan and in some cases a synth or two. it now takes me about 10 minutes to set up, but with lots of cables there are always problems. klowy -------------------------------------------- you can actually hear wrinklemuzik on the web: http://www.riffage.com/Bands/1,2939,1682,00.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 14:58:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA11955; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:58:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:58:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD28@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: of possiblel interest to the list . . . Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:21:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"xSt6s.0.WP.5Bq5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com for the really retro-minded: i picked this up from the pedalman site . . . i wonder if the "tubeplex" does the old echoplex sound-on-sound thing. stig Mike Battle - The original designer of the Tube Echoplex (back in the early 1960s) - brings the magnificent Tube Echoplex back to life, better than ever, not only *the REAL THING* with its all tube design, chrome plate and wooden case with handle, but quieter, more stable, and more reliable! "Virtually identical to the original ECHOPLEX, but with a few improvements made. We have incorporated a noise reduction circuit to eliminate tape hiss, and have also used a cap stan motor to do away with the fly wheel and belt, which decreases wow and flutter noise." FEATURES: 3 - 12AX7 pre-amp Tubes Balance, Repeat and Record Controls Footswitchable coming end of Oct 1999 Suggested Retail is set at $998 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 15:29:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20597; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:29:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:29:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D801@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:21:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"qnHp-3.0.8c4.x2r5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Yes, I'm struggling with this as well. At what point is it ridiculous. Originally I had the setup being: 3 pedalboards, 2 8spracks, 4 2x12's, 2 15" bass cabs, stands, 2 electrics and 1 acoustic. Completely rediculous and it certainly doesn't fit in my puny car and it takes me way to long to setup. Hmmm... at what point does it border on stupidity.setup time is 1/2-45 minutes?! Denis Denis taaffe denis_alienbgtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 15:43:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24715; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:43:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:43:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001a01bf20b2$3d23ff20$1c98adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:34:07 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"OnFVp3.0.c_4.R9r5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) SNIP > - If another person posts a comment or question that is off the > subject, do NOT reply to the list and keep the off- subject > conversation going publicly. > >[This next one is my favorite, people are so predictable....] > > - When someone posts an off-subject note, and someone else criticizes > that posting, you should NOT submit a gratuitous note saying "well, I > liked it and lots of people probably did as well and you guys ought to > lighten up and not tell us to stick to the subject".> YEAH . .. what Kim SAID!! %^? (SNIP and please, always trim the extraneous parts of the original post--thank you and HND) drone on~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 15:56:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28982; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:56:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:56:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:35:25 -0500 Subject: FS: Boomerang ($325) Harmony Central From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"UPgGK3.0.xj5.wIr5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Boomerang Phrase Sampler /Looper Asking Price: US$325 Condition: Mint Age: 1 year Description: Boomerang floor-based phrase sampler. This one has a 1 minute memory, but it can be inexpensively upgraded to 4 minutes. Cool tool for layering sounds, or improvising with self-accompaniment. Similar to the Lexicon JamMan, but with more memory. Very user friendly layout. Refer to harmony-central's effects database for more info. Paid more than $400 for it a year ago. Didn't use it much - guess I had a G.A.S. problem back then. It's in mint condition with manual and original box. Asking $325, inclusive of COD shipping within the continental US by UPS ground. Seller: Jai Kasthurirangan, (512)420-0429 E-mail: jai@io.com (Profile) Location: AUSTIN, TX Post Date: 10/26/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:07:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32063; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:07:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:07:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:30:18 -0500 Subject: FS: JamMan (8sec) $500 (Harmony Central) From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OUXc13.0.EG5.dBr5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Roland Synth / Lexicon Jam Man Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Excellent Age: N/A Description: Lexicon Jam Man, 8 seconds -excellent condition with photocopied manual...$500 US obo. Roland CMU 810 and 800 -the 800 is essentially an SH101 without keyboard or sequencer, however this 800 is patched out for modular use. -the 810 is similar to a 606 with no sequencer, each drum sound is patched to be triggered from outside trigger source or sequencer...$400 US for the pair. Robert Brasz (416)516-9538 Toronto, ON Seller: Robert Brasz, (416)516-9538 E-mail: eelirak@yesic.com (Profile) Post Date: 10/26/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 15:54:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28027; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:54:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:54:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:33:58 -0500 Subject: FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler Looper pedal ($300) Harmony Central From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"gyCRV.0.ii5.lIr5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler Looper pedal Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Good Age: N/A Description: Boomerang phrase sampler pedal with 4 meg, works great, some paint chips on the metal from use....$300 obo Seller: LENNY STEVENS, E-mail: scurry@airmail.net (Profile) Location: DALLAS, TX Post Date: 10/26/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:21:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04246; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:21:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:21:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Yamaha SU700 In-Reply-To: <016301bf20a8$eebc0fc0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"krtWn1.0.Qf6.1Ur5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I played a gig last year with someone who was (trying to use) a Kyma. He lived near the people who invented it and had brought it back to them a bunch of times to get fixed. When he set it up on stage it was totally dead, useless. I love the concept, but for that kind of cash, I'd want a system that was slightly more bullet-proof. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Dennis W. Leas wrote: > Drew, > > >But soon as I can spare $3300, I'm > >getting the Kyma system. http://www.symbolicsound.com > > I've looked at Kyma before and I've been really impressed. How soon do you > think you'll get one and how's about posting a review? > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:26:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05257; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:26:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:26:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <38171D61.D3FDDB3@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:42:25 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: edp INSERT/ REHEARSE mode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6cqFQ3.0.027.yYr5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear loopers and meta-loopers, A Friend of mine has a query concerning the insert/ rehearse mode on His edp (with LOOP v5.0). I hope You all don't mind me redirecting His question towards Your meta-intelligence. :-) When He switches His edp to INSERT mode, it only works as advertised the first time through. The second time through the edp behaves in normal looping mode, i.e. it simply creates a "closed" loop and doesn't allow further "rehearsals". If you could help Him, He would be thankful. I'll serve as a conduit from You to Him, sorta like the Pope. ;-) AND HE WILL GRANT UPON THEE MERCY. thanks, rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:36:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08826; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:36:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:36:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910272016.QAA18070@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Resent-Message-ID: <"isumV2.0.nd.3tr5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 412 > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:31:07 -0400 > From: "Tiktok World HQ" > To: "Looper's Delight" > Subject: MIDI looper? > > Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can > act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? > > Travis Hartnett > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:10:05 -0500 > From: "Travis Hartnett" > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: MIDI looper? > > I guess I should clarify--what I want is a MIDI sequencer that emulates a > long digital delay, in that repeats can be set to decrease in volume. > > TH > ---------- > End of Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 Issue #412 > ********************************************** Digital Music's MX-8 MIDI patchbay/processor can do what you want. Play a synth note and it will come out followed by repeats that have decreasing note-on velocities. You can program the delay time and decay rate. It can also do other whacky things like rechannelize the data so that the repeats are on a different MIDI channel! Whatch out for MIDI feedback loops. You may wish to put your master keyboard (or other controller) into LOCAL OFF mode. IIRC, it can do MIDI pitch shifts, too. BTW, you also get a 6 in x 8 out patchbay to boot! Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:25:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05179; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:25:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:25:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: WshaUfizi@aol.com Message-ID: <0.f18e704.2548b307@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:56:55 EDT Subject: Re: Zendrum/losing the box To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"538QU3.0.w87.xar5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey! I play electric banjo!! Same model Deering. 'course I'm not as good as Bela but hopefully that will come in time. Speaking of Bela, he's got an interesting setup as well. Has anyone ever tried the Roland synth he uses? ~kris From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:47:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12194; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:47:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:47:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.358793f6.2548b98d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:24:45 EDT Subject: Re: A question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"aAkbC2.0.LH1.J_r5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Viking Case company From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 16:42:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10487; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:42:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:42:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.ca6f6c4f.2548b83e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:19:10 EDT Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (was Re: Elixir Strung-outs) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"PDI_A3.0.rq.Gwr5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Watch what happens when they start talking about scotch again. A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:05:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17214; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:05:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:05:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:30:41 -0500 Subject: Re: MIDI looper? From: Travis Hartnett To: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199910272016.QAA18070@badboy.micro.lucent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mV0Rk1.0.4o1.Q4s5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How flexible are the repeat parameters? It'd be nice to be able to specify "precisely [n] repeats of the same volume" and so on. TH > From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:16:41 -0400 (EDT) > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: MIDI looper? > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:28:39 -0400 > >> Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 412 >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:31:07 -0400 >> From: "Tiktok World HQ" >> To: "Looper's Delight" >> Subject: MIDI looper? >> >> Is there sequencing software (or better, a standalone sequencer) which can >> act as a looper, except for MIDI events instead of audio? >> >> Travis Hartnett >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:10:05 -0500 >> From: "Travis Hartnett" >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Subject: Re: MIDI looper? >> >> I guess I should clarify--what I want is a MIDI sequencer that emulates a >> long digital delay, in that repeats can be set to decrease in volume. >> >> TH >> ---------- >> End of Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 Issue #412 >> ********************************************** > > Digital Music's MX-8 MIDI patchbay/processor can do what you want. Play > a synth note and it will come out followed by repeats that have > decreasing note-on velocities. You can program the delay time and decay > rate. It can also do other whacky things like rechannelize the data so > that the repeats are on a different MIDI channel! Whatch out for MIDI > feedback loops. You may wish to put your master keyboard (or other > controller) into LOCAL OFF mode. IIRC, it can do MIDI pitch shifts, > too. BTW, you also get a 6 in x 8 out patchbay to boot! > > Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com > ============================================================================== > Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at > 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and > Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. > ============================================================================== > The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org > My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html > My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:03:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17009; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:03:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:03:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Lcbois@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b9445bf3.2548bcba@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:38:18 EDT Subject: please remove To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"v1nIP1.0.DS2.6Cs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com please remove me from list From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:17:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20935; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:17:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:17:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005901bf20ba$d38248c0$78cf883e@colins-gear> From: "Colin Seddon" To: Subject: Re: is it the moon? Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:05:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"0NWXw1.0.Yc1.C2s5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Aha, Let the tenuous loopology begin.......... Who out there has played with Mobius strips? You don't need hardware for those either. Just strips of looped paper, any number of twists and a pair of scissors. Amaze your friends! Bobdog are you the very same bobdog of megadog? Remember Big Top in empty American warehouses, broken down buses and lots of hanging about? Colin -----Original Message----- From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: 27 October 1999 04:16 Subject: Re: is it the moon? >the moon is looking mighty fine tonight as it makes yet one more tick on >its endless loop around earth, no hardware needed. > >bobdog > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:10:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18612; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:10:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:10:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014901be62b2$7f6cf3a0$3cbd173f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: Subject: delete tesh@gte.net Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:22:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0109_01BE626D.54633E20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"yW2173.0.QO2.2Bs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0109_01BE626D.54633E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable removeme it's not what i thunk it was lots doubles and junk ------=_NextPart_000_0109_01BE626D.54633E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0109_01BE626D.54633E20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:26:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22884; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:26:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:26:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Lcbois@aol.com Message-ID: <0.837dceeb.2548bc89@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:37:29 EDT Subject: Re:please remove To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"mXC361.0.aO2.2Bs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com remove From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:26:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22876; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:26:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:26:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD2A@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:54:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"kcRD22.0.kM2.fAs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > at what point does it > border on stupidity.setup time is 1/2-45 minutes?! > ** yeah. i was in a band where both the guitarist and i brought stereo rigs (i play bass); i was hauling stereo amp/preamp, two cabinets, two roland rsp-550s plus two rds-8000s (for looping - - one per channel to have different loops at opposite sides of the stage) and foot stuff, too. the vocalist also did some looping and processing. usual set-up time was at least 30 minutes, more often longer - - for a 45-minute set. i called us the band with more gear than sense . . . now it's amp (walter woods) and processing in some small backbacks. used to do two but now it's up to three (megalomania strikes). need to get a bigger bag. everything (except the amp) is stomp boxes (eh-16 and headrush for loopage). i don't miss stereo, but still have the capability with the woods. stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:29:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23907; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:29:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:29:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910272025.QAA18088@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Foot controller Resent-Message-ID: <"SEEJ83.0.cP2.BBs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 413 > ------------------------------ > From: "Taaffe, Denis G" > Subject: RE: RE: Foot controller > Hey, the midimitgator, that's what I use. It's really great. I love > it. What happened to lake butler the makers of the rfc-1? Did they go under. > They also made a nother pedal that had 4 ev pedals, no? > ------------------------------ > End of Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 Issue #413 > ********************************************** I found a busted one in 1996 and grabbed it for $75. I sent it in to Lake Butler for repairs and the memory upgrade. They said that they still support their music products but are out of the MI business and on to other things instead. Sorry my info isn't any more recent than that. Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:41:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26538; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:41:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:41:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:40:38 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910272040.QAA18123@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: ozric Resent-Message-ID: <"juRYN.0.vX2.oDs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 414 > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:04:28 PDT > From: "nicholas konopka" > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: ozric > > Is anyone familiar with the band Ozric Tentacles? > If so, my question is.. > What is the equipment that the synth player (Seaweed) plays? > The synths and looping devices... > Nick.. > ------------------------------ > End of Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 Issue #414 > ********************************************** Seaweed? Must be a newer keyboard player. Joie (was that his name? I forget.) used some standard stuff and a little one that he made. This was back in about 1995 when I saw them in NYC in some hole in the wall. Sorry I can't remember any more. I wasn't aware of looping back then so I have no idea if they looped anything or not. Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:45:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27740; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:45:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:45:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:13:21 -0500 Subject: FS: 7.6sec Time Machine (ebay) From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fdl1B3.0.Kr4.his5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=186667982 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:45:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27746; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:45:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:45:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:56:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics From: Travis Hartnett To: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD2A@migarexch01.maritz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"l6s0L1.0.6e3.KSs5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Having hauled around rigs of varying sizes, I use three rules: 1) Don't have any single piece of gear you can't lift by yourself. 2) Don't have more stuff than fits into a vehicle you own. 3) With everything stacked next to the stage, don't take more than 10 minutes to setup. TH > From: "Liebig, Steuart A." > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:54:03 -0400 > To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" > Subject: RE: Live Gig Rig Logistics > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:49:58 -0400 > > >> at what point does it >> border on stupidity.setup time is 1/2-45 minutes?! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 17:59:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31718; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:59:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:59:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005201bf20c1$feec28d0$c34badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: "Loopers" Subject: FA: MX-8 MIDI Patch bay (eBay) (RE: MIDI Looper) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:26:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"VUL5q2.0.3a5.Ets5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MX-8 MIDI Patch bay Digital Music Corp. MX-8 MIDI Patch bay. Features 6 MIDI in's and 8 out's. Fully programmable paramaters let you route your MIDI configuration any way you want it, and quickly! Comes with manual and power supply. Rack mountable for live or studio work. The MX-8 allows you to rout and merge midi inputs, dit processors and filters, transpose, set digital delay, velocity crosswitch, program change, etc, to name a few. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=188977713 - Larry Tremblay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 18:11:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02260; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:11:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:11:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:04:22 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, hartne.t@apple.com Subject: OT - Re: Live Gig LOOPING Rig Logistics Resent-Message-ID: <"NES8a2.0.oE.tTt5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> Travis Hartnett 10/27 2:26 PM >>> > Having hauled around rigs of varying sizes, I use three rules: > 1) Don't have any single piece of gear you can't lift by yourself. > 2) Don't have more stuff than fits into a vehicle you own. > 3) With everything stacked next to the stage, don't take more than 10 minutes to setup. I'm one of those stereo rack / full range guys... I swing wildly between wanting everything for total mayhem, to being totally sick of taking it and resorting to as small a rig as possible. I have a 10sp w/EDP, 2x Vortex, LXP15II, 1sp Mixer, 1sp Mic Pre w/dynamic control, GCX Loop switcher, Pwr Conditioner, Stereo Patch Bay... I have a fuzz board w/3-5 fuzzes or a Waldorf 4-pole velcro'd to the top of the rack and it stows on the inside of the back cover when in transit. I've also begun taking along a groovy audio/visual cart with nice big casters and a built in power strip. It has a low shelf, a middle shelf about 2 feet above the bottom one, and another shelf about a foot from the middle one. I put the 4-pole and drum box on the middle shelf and sometimes even stick the GT-5 on the bottom shelf, leaving only one pedal board and some loose items on the floor... On the floor, there's a Boss GT-5 w/extra ExPed and FS5U switch as well as a Fuzz Factory and Wah... then there's another pedal board with the PMC10 midi controller and 3 ExPeds as well as 4 FS5U's for control of the two Vortexes... Then there's the EDP foot controller as well... I used to use a 1sp pwr amp and a pair of excellent sounding Acme Lo-B 2x10 3 way enclosures (courtesy of our LD friend, the generous Laurie Hatch! Thanks Laurie!) and these were a snap to cable up as well although elevation is sometimes a problem. Maybe those darn pole mount stands will have to be a consideration... (I would tilt them back and use like monitors...) BTW: Acme Bass now has in production a Lo-B 1x10 3-way selling mail order direct for $360 ea. http://www.acmebass.com/ When motivated, I can be set up in 10-15 minutes, although to be truthful... maintaining a meditative mood and soft stroking the muse requires a more relaxed pace. Maybe 20-25 minutes. This all usually works without a sound check, or just a brief stint in the headphones... When really traveling light, I take my GT-5 in a bag which will also hold it's ExPed and FS5U as well as all cables, strings, wah and a couple stomps... all on a shoulder strap. With something like the headrush and a pair of powered speakers this a a very small setup and extremely powerful... I could set that up in 5 minutes. Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 18:59:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13520; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:59:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:59:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD2F@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: late notice: looping + in long beach, ca, usa Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:33:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"YJhyD1.0.232.7ut5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com howdy, playing with a dj/turntable maestro in long beach, ca, thursday 28 october. steuart liebig (me): bass, loopage, other effects dj chowderhead: turntables, beats, thangs it's a small and reflective place, so we'll be doing our best to keep in on the meditative and less-raucous end of things. portfolio cafe: corner of junipero and 4th streets, long beach, ca From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 19:09:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16151; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:09:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:09:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <38177F86.E3F3E9B6@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:41:10 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Run Over Yourself ... References: <0.ca6f6c4f.2548b83e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"X0nhf2.0.q-2.u8u5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com if you bring up this thread again ... the lagavulin's great over here, how're you doing? Rob WarNerve wrote: > > Watch what happens when they start talking about scotch again. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 19:31:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA21416; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:31:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:31:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:12:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199910280012.SAA02630@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: re-301 replacement tape Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id TAA18596 Resent-Message-ID: <"rvynC2.0.IZ4.8Yu5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just a question,does anybody knows where I could buy some replacement tapes for my re-301 in the New York City-New Jersey area? a friend of mine is going up north for a week and heīll try to find me some. I just need that tape because I get cranky without my sound on sound %) thanx Andy in Mexico City. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 20:52:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11875; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:52:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:52:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401bf20dc$1924cf80$94c5aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991026220321.007ada90@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:33:42 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"lhQUj2.0.tA2.5jv5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have 3 rackmountable units and 5 floor pedal units in my live rig which got rather unmanagable with patch cables and wallwarts all over the place. I'm always amazed how frequently I loose cables and gain someone elses after a gig. To resolve this mess, I wanted to get a rack but couldn't afford one. One day, I was rummaging through the local 2nd hand store looking for golf clubs when I saw a beat up stereo cabinet for $5. I bought it and spurced it up with some black paint. My rack mount gear fit perfectly. The top shelf where normally a turntable would sit was perfect for my looping foot pedals that I manipulate with my hands (Akai Headrush, Digitech Delay, etc). I slanted the shelf at a moderate incline so the pedals would be a bit more upright for my playing position (I play seated). I put velcro tape on the shelf and pedals. I made an additional shelf for my candles and incense. At the bottom of the rack, I installed some power strips and slot for my combo amp for the occassions that I don't bring my amp head and 4x12 cabinet. I put some casters on for mobility and have been pleased with my bargain rack ever since. All the patch cables are neatly bundled within the rack so I only have to insert the rack into my effects loop when I use my half stack set up. It now takes me all of 5 minutes to get on and off the stage and I leave the joint with the same patch cables I came with. > Okay, back to looping.... > > We discuss individual pieces of looping gear a great deal, but when it > comes to containing it and carrying it around as a system, are any of you > using innovative racks/pedalboards/stands/cases that transport, set up and > tear down particularly well? Any ideas that would benefit a looper playing > on a multiple bill (you know, 6 acts on a crowded stage with ten minutes to > set up between, and no sound check...)? Ways to "smallerize", yet retain > versatility? Original ways to avoid having to unpack, plug in, unplug and > re-pack every patch cord every time ya play out? Effective methods for > making sure that all of your equipment ends up making it home from the gig > with you? > > Tim > > P.S.: HE ALWAYS STOPES STRANGERS ON THE STREET AND MAKE THEM LOOK AT HIS > CALLOUS FINGRS FROM USEING THICK HEVY STRINGS WITH NEW STANDERD TUNNING... > > (sorry...) > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:02:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA29760; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:02:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:02:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991027213312.007a7b70@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:33:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Q o' th' Week: Live Gig Rig Logistics In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB640282D7EB@georgia.exchange. indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"QN_cP3.0.6S5.LXw5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Denis, I think you mean Mikel Nelson... Same surname, but he knows a whole lot more about 'Rangs, for some strange reason! Mike? Would this work? Tim At 09:24 AM 10/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hey tim Nelson, > > Someone suggested an interesting mod for the boomerang pedalboard. >this one would involve using a momentary switch on the record/play swutch. >This way, when you step on it , it would record, and when you release it >would play. Is this mod possible? Would improve the timing a bit? > >Denis > >Denis Taaffe >denis_aliengtr@geocities.com >http://www.dtguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:19:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01070; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:19:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:19:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991027212730.007ccd60@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:27:30 -0400 To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) In-Reply-To: <001a01bf20b2$3d23ff20$1c98adce@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kcpgE.0.5A5.sSw5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I met Kim at this year's Winter NAMM and he's actually pretty cool in person. Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:24:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02442; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:24:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:24:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <0.4d095a26.254909ea@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:07:38 EDT Subject: EH 16 second delay To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"kKDfl.0.gb7.v0x5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone check this out on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=186259137 supposedly it's the second one ever made (prototype)... pretty damn rare I suppose. cheers jack From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 21:42:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01002; Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:28:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:28:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012F2481B420D211BE5A00A0C9CDAFBA020F9134@il0015exch006u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Weideman, Gary L (Gary)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Anyone sell a JamMan Footswitch ?? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:06:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"I3Bid2.0.gw7.aPE1u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Hi, > Another JamMan question - where can I get footswitches for a JamMan ?? G. Weideman From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:34:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31094; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:56:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 06:56:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@compuserve.com Message-ID: <3812E397.AC29414D@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:46:47 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: xbase09 comments References: <0.f1a2bd56.25421aa5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wCujr1.0.MM7.1Kk4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com do you mean the jomox drum machine? table-top or rack version? rob Cornhilio2@aol.com schrieb: > > > what do you all think of the xbase09 i was thinking of buying one From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 21:47:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26124; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:47:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:47:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38178E98.652F@club-internet.fr> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:45:28 +0200 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re : delay questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7kyf.0.br3.r6w5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Some more questions for those more knowledgeable about the nature of loops and > analog/digital delay units. Can a loop be sped up or slowed down only if the delay > time is adjustable with a knob? Is every delay that has knobs capable of being > sped up/slowed down? I assume the position of the delay time knob (at the time of > the loop recording) would determine the degree to which the loop could be sped up/ > slowed down (in the middle would mean it could be raised or lowered the same > amount, etc.). > > Most digital loops seem to destruct when you try to change the delay time-are > there any (except the EH 16 sec delay) that are able to do this? Has anyone > overcome these limitations by using a pitch shifter the loop, and if so, which > model (s) seem to work best for the thick texture of a multi-overdubbed loop? > > Thanks for your time, > Paul Sullivan > Yes there is another case at least. See at http://perso.club-internet.fr/perille Emmanuel From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:47:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20077; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:25:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:25:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009001bf20cf$f80a31c0$7055883e@colins-gear> From: "Colin Seddon" To: Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:39:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"88anP.0.iR3.lFu5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Rob, As I said, I'm waiting for the closing date of the auction, so I'll know by 4pm on Saturday. I notice there are others interested. If they want to buy before Saturday, I reckon you should go ahead. Cheers - Colin -----Original Message----- From: Lcbois@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: 27 October 1999 14:31 Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex >$1000. for unit and footpedal(oberheim) i pay shipping. if interested call >me at 404 231 5214 after 11 am est for details. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 21:47:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30449; Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:48:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:48:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b71eb72f.25433fe7@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:44:23 EDT Subject: Re: Two looping questions from a neophyte To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL NetMail version 2.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"WhGTV.0.1E7.rOU4u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Any chance of a CD from the Italia gig being released? Mark Kata probly not. a studio recording: or, remixes of the live stuff: is/are more likely, but not for some while. best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:40:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05985; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:40:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:40:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000501bf20eb$46144480$556fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: alesis micro eq Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:22:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"k8f5G3.0.gg.qHx5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com does anyone out there know if this unit is a stereo or mono unit? postaldave@qx.net by the way fender flat wounds is the only clear choose for REAL loopers. lol From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:47:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29956; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:37:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:37:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001d01bf1bef$81f1bba0$5e22dacf@stepheng> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman" From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <19991021163155.56265.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: CD-RW Burner for Mac Laptop Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:10:04 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"xmt4n3.0.up5.WSr3u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Watch for USB 2.0 as it's supposed to supply a bigger throughput than the present spec. Kim probably knows this one on a more tech level. I went through a good deal of trouble with an EIDE CDRW drive earlier this year (though on a PC, I think the problems are cross-platform in this regard); the IDE CDRW drives and the USB ones made earlier this year don't run too well on a machine with a bus faster than 66MHz, without disabling some aspect of bus mastering - which of course makes a fast machine seem like otherwise. As one PC reader quipped last week, "most of the devices I see made for USB are translucent blue," so perhaps you've got more hope for resolution in the USB realm. But I wonder about the aspect of USB 2.0, so it's worth investigating. Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear the NEW "Star Spangled Banner" here!) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Witters To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 09:31 Subject: Re: CD-RW Burner for Mac Laptop > I'm going to purchase a CD-RW burner. I'm using a 400Mhz Powerbook G3, I'm > assuming that because this is a laptop I'll have to get a USB interfaced > burner. I'm new to the CD-Burner realm, any suggestions? Please keep the > answers mac oriented. Thanks, Sean > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 22:48:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07920; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:48:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:48:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:38:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"QbT86.0.BR1.3Ux5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just played a gig at the Filmore last week where I wanted to either take the kitchen sink, or next to nothing. Because this was a Miles Davis tribute band, covering the electric period from 70-75, I erred on the side of taking everything. The early 70's were a period of excess in many ways. In my case, the kitchen sink consisted of: - a mostly filled 12-space rack (with EDP, natch) - a pedalboard (comp, fuzz , wah-wah, overdrive, boost) - a MIDI switchboard - a couple of random footswitches (effects bypass) - a couple of random footpedals (effects continuous control) - a master stereo volume pedal (doesn't fit on the pedal board) - a knobby synth (gets velcroed to the top of my rack) - a drum stool - amplification courtesy of a pair of JBL Eon 15 PAKs Perhaps because I have a station wagon, all of this broke only two of Travis' three rules: - I can't really lift the 12-space, although it has great 4" wheels and is fairly maneuverable - It takes me 20-30 minutes to set this all up I could probably cut down the set-up time a little with better cabling. Chris _________________________________________________________ The optimist sees a glass half full... | Chris Muir The pessimist sees a glass half empty... | cbm@well.com The realist sees a glass twice as big as it needs to be. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Oct 27 23:26:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA16392; Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:26:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:26:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:17:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf20f2$f1d97cc0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991027212730.007ccd60@pop-server> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"dS7v51.0.fX3.31y5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I met Kim a couple of weeks ago at an ugly cafe in north Oakland. He is actually a very unassuming fellow, very friendly and open, salt of the Earth. He's one very cool dude indeed. He even said we should get several San Francisco Bay-area loopers together for a beer or something -- one of those fancy liquors he likes to savor at night. Cheers 2, Javier | -----Original Message----- | From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com [mailto:pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com] | Sent: Wednesday 27 October 1999 6:28 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a | MailingList) | | | I met Kim at this year's Winter NAMM and he's actually pretty | cool in person. | | Cheers, | Paolo | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 00:12:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA24977; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:12:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:12:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c15a35e7.254922c1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:53:37 EDT Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"8B9cv.0.6J5.0ay5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/28/99 12:17:45 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com writes: << I met Kim at this year's Winter NAMM and he's actually pretty cool in person. >> wow......thank goodness.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 00:46:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03350; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:46:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:46:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.bb69f6e9.254929a4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:23:00 EDT Subject: Re: SoundRaider To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"6MNO_.0.c37.m_y5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/27/99 2:47:51 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, subversive@mindspring.com writes: << http://andyw.zinc.co.uk/raider/ Lemme know what ya think and how it works for you folks. Sincerely, Jeff McLeod >> jeff.........thanks........very freaky.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 00:54:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA05300; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:54:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:54:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991028044902.00833dc8@pop> X-Sender: kflint@pop X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 21:49:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Resent-Message-ID: <"cva6G1.0.341.iOz5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks guys, the $10 is in the mail. kim At 08:17 PM 10/27/99 -0700, Javier Miranda V. wrote: >I met Kim a couple of weeks ago at an ugly cafe in north Oakland. He is >actually a very unassuming fellow, very friendly and open, salt of the >Earth. He's one very cool dude indeed. He even said we should get several >San Francisco Bay-area loopers together for a beer or something -- one of >those fancy liquors he likes to savor at night. > | I met Kim at this year's Winter NAMM and he's actually pretty > | cool in person. > | > | Cheers, > | Paolo ___________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-845-6383 Manager, System Engineering kflint@ati.com ATI Research, Inc. http://www.ati.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 01:16:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA09770; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:16:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 01:16:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:57:56 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199910280557.XAA12266@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: re-301 replacement tape Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id BAA07519 Resent-Message-ID: <"22QID1.0.sr1.8bz5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just a question,does anybody knows where I could buy some replacement tapes for my re-301 in the New York City-New Jersey area? a friend of mine is going up north for a week and heīll try to find me some. I just need that tape because I get cranky without my sound on sound %) thanx Andy in Mexico City. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 03:58:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06687; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:58:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:58:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910280732.AAA25341@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:35:28 -0700 Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"c5gYP3.0.iS.fm_5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lets get those Bay-Area beer drinkin' looper guys together for once and for all. I'm in and I'll get the 1st round-who else??...stannerthemanner... ---------- >From: "Javier Miranda V." >To: >Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) >Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 8:17 PM > > I met Kim a couple of weeks ago at an ugly cafe in north Oakland. He is > actually a very unassuming fellow, very friendly and open, salt of the > Earth. He's one very cool dude indeed. He even said we should get several > San Francisco Bay-area loopers together for a beer or something -- one of > those fancy liquors he likes to savor at night. > > Cheers 2, > Javier > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com [mailto:pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com] > | Sent: Wednesday 27 October 1999 6:28 PM > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > | Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a > | MailingList) > | > | > | I met Kim at this year's Winter NAMM and he's actually pretty > | cool in person. > | > | Cheers, > | Paolo > | > | > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 03:57:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06147; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:57:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 03:57:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901bf2116$e34c78a0$7c9cb8d4@oemcomputer> To: "Loopers delight" Subject: Shopping for a FC Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:33:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF2127.879085E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-dialin.net From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (Luis Angulo) Resent-Message-ID: <"B2t7s2.0.Fa.Qn_5u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF2127.879085E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Loopers! I=B4d like to know more about the All acess or the Roland FC 200 foot = controllers since i am about to pick one up.Do you know if i can trigger = my self made synth chords like with the PMC 10 and trigger loops sampler = style from the EDP?Yes it is ashame that i sold my PMC 10 i found it = very geniously done but i can=B4t tell you how frustrating it was having = to reprogram this thing over and over again even with the new upgrade. I = am also very curios about this Phill Rees FC but i never heard of the = company and don=B4t know how reliable they are.It sure sounds good = though although there is only four buttons per bank and i think it would = be a little less. As far as a Lake Butler it would be nice but i dont = think i have a chance to find one here in Europe! ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF2127.879085E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Loopers!
 
I=B4d like to know more about the All = acess or the=20 Roland FC 200 foot controllers since i am about to pick one up.Do = you know=20 if i can trigger my self made synth chords like with the PMC 10 and = trigger=20 loops sampler style from the EDP?Yes it is ashame that i sold my PMC 10 = i found=20 it very geniously done but i can=B4t tell you how frustrating it was = having to=20 reprogram this thing over and over again even with the new upgrade. I am = also=20 very curios about this Phill Rees FC but i never heard of the company = and don=B4t=20 know how reliable they are.It sure sounds good though although there is = only=20 four buttons per bank and i think it would be a little less. As far as a = Lake=20 Butler it would be nice but i dont think i have a chance to find one = here in=20 Europe!
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BF2127.879085E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 04:44:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14560; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:44:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:44:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dlangenes@aol.com Message-ID: <0.a8dd2a64.254965a9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:39:05 EDT Subject: Reverb/Delay question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <"jT3CI2.0.5L3.6l06u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Loopers, I recently got rid of my rack effects (lexicon mpx 100 and nanocompressor) to simplify my live guitar setup, reduce hiss, etc, and reinvested in pedals. Only now (duh) I'm missing the kinds of rich, hall reverbs I was getting with the lexicon that my new boss reverb/delay can't hold a candle to. And then there's my boss comp/sustain which I'm still trying to get a subtle sound from. I was thinking of getting rack effects again and maybe fitting them into my pedal case under the pedals, but I don't know if they're durable enough for that kind of treatment and then there's the origional problem of the lexicon making too much hiss. Does anyone know of a line-level reverb unit that has studio quality sound? Is the idea of putting rack effects in my pedal board stupid? Am I playing the part of a clueless guitar player? David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 05:27:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA22224; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:27:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 05:27:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910280922.FAA21086@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Apparently-From: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:52:07 +0530 Subject: Symbolic Sound's Kyma From: "Drew Skyfyre" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_3NF41.0.j95.BN16u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I played a gig last year with someone who was (trying to use) a Kyma. He > lived near the people who invented it and had brought it back to them a > bunch of times to get fixed. When he set it up on stage it was totally > dead, useless. I've been aware of Kyma for a number of years, have read numerous reviews ( a couple of excellent ones appeared in Electronic Musician) & spoken to users. The problems that you mention above must have had a very good reason, or possibly a freak occurance. My understanding is that Kyma is a very reliable & well built system. An incredible concept & an incredible product that's been in production for many years now. Peruse the web site, at http://www.symbolicsound.com/eighth-userDir.html there's a partial list of users, including John Paul Jones who is using it live on tour, and several others who I'm sure wouldn't be using it if it wasn't essentially bullet-proof. I would have no hesitation in buying one. Soon as I have $3300 to spend ;-) > I love the concept, but for that kind of cash, I'd want a > system that was slightly more bullet-proof. Slightly irresponsible (dontchathink ?)dissing a product based on one user's experience, the details of which u know nothing about, or at least haven't told us, if u know. The internet's become notorious for this sort of thing. Anyhow : Kyma's OS has just been upgraded to v5 : http://www.symbolicsound.com/press-AES99.html A quick synopsis of it's capabilities : http://www.symbolicsound.com/press-AES98.html >From the Symbolic Sound site : The first Kyma system was delivered in January 1991, and since that time, there have been seven major software upgrades, three hardware upgrades... Electronic Musician magazine Editors' Choice Award for 1998. Featured in the March 1998 Wall Street Journal Entertainment Technology insert. Cheers, - Drew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 09:52:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08360; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:52:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:52:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:30:12 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ozrics Synth Players Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"AUJrI2.0.Rr.Z056u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, the first Ozrics synth player was Joie Hinton and he basically had a bunch of synths, samplers and sequencers. I know the sampler in the early days was an old Akai, they used the D50 by Roland, the Wavestation by Korg, an old Putney VCS3 (I believe), a WASP, an OSCAR and more. Check out the homepage that Mike Werning put together for these guys and all of their synth gear is laid out in details. I know they're using one of the Korg virtual modeling synths now for ethnic instruments. When I saw them live, there were like 9 synths onstage at the same time (Ed had 3 in a stand up rack, the remainder was played by the new guy). The current guy, Seaweed (I think his real name is Chris Lenox-Smythe) and is so named because his synths frequently sound like they are under water and his hair is in big huge dreads that look like seaweed too..he has a similar rig to Joie (in fact, even bought an old synth off of him too) but in some ways is just as impressive. He sounds like the second coming of Hi T Moonweed. He actually came across as being somewhat more impressive than Ed (the frontman).. I definetely heard at one point an arpeggiator going through a long delay with a ducker going so he could create what SOUNDED like complex polyphonic sequences but actually were complicated, played patterns done via arpeggiator and into a delay for even more madness. I've since tried this on my old Korg Poly61 through the Lexicon Vortex and it's a great trick. Just change one note in a five note chord or make something go from major to minor and it really changes the whole atmosphere of a track. It's kind of like the delay trick that Albert Lee uses on guitar - he plays straight 8th notes with two repeats and creates the illusion of ridiculously fast, even 16th note runs. Here an arpeggiator is in play so the notes never let up and create a very hypnotic effect, especially if you have oozing pads with synth bass underneath. Anyway, search for that Ozrics page to get the full scoop on their gear- it's a pretty impressive selection of stuff. As for straight, conventional looping - I don't think I've ever quite heard it on any of their recordings, but I would check out the title track of "Arborescence" to check out how ethereal they can get. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 09:52:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08322; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:52:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:52:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38180D35.ADC42555@texas.net> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 08:45:42 +0000 From: Bobdog/Doghouse Audio Laboratory X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: re-301 replacement tape References: <199910280557.XAA12266@servidor.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Dg8h-.0.wd1.RC56u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi andy - i just cut & splice my own out of ampex 456 1/4". for sound on sound i find a shorter piece of tape than the stock loop is very effective. bobdog Andy Soto wrote: > > just a question,does anybody knows where I could buy some replacement > tapes for my re-301 in the New York City-New Jersey area? a friend of mine > is going up north for a week and heīll try to find me some. > > I just need that tape because I get cranky without my sound on sound %) > > thanx > > Andy in Mexico City. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 10:11:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13110; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:11:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:11:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004401bf214d$1cd08810$474badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Reverb/Delay question Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:02:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"s81N22.0.1b2.gS56u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >the lexicon making too much hiss. Does anyone know of a line-level reverb >unit that has studio quality sound? Is the idea of putting rack effects in my >pedal board stupid? The LXP series is fairly quiet and sounds pretty nice. Regarding putting rack FX in your pedal board, rack FX weren't built to take that kind of shock, so I would avoid it. As far as noise goes, maybe you should look at your gain structure to reduce the noise you're sending to the reverb. It might be necessary to add a noise gate (not a pedal, they're worthless IMO) to the chain. Best Regards, Larry -----Original Message----- From: Dlangenes@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 4:47 AM Subject: Reverb/Delay question >Loopers, > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 13:26:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27149; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:26:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:26:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991028171910.45690.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.90.217.113] From: "chalchiuhtlicue" To: References: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:22:50 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"dwGqg2.0.a96.1N86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > [And finally, since Mr. CH only subscribed on Monday, this next one should > be particularly relavant...] > > - When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a > feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are deemed > off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel > comfortable with the group, then start posting. I monitored the archives, dumbass, and have looked at threads that were more off-topic than your guitar strings pet peeve that passed without insulting comment. They key to this is below: > And yes, I am an asshole. My daddy was an asshole before me, and his daddy > an asshole before him. Very long, proud asshole tradition. You'll just have > to get over it. ;-) Yes you are. And you are the one who needs to get over - yourself. Example: you laugh after you make blanket generalizations that are offensive to others: > Well, I must say, I practically had tears in my eyes from laughing over > this whole thing. Who's the one who doesn't apologize for their behavior? Refer to your original post for context, Einstein. Grow up. 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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BE631C.CB9498E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 13:26:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27112; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:26:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:26:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001501be635f$eccdb620$bb240d3f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: Subject: UNSUSCRIBE Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:18:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE631C.DDC10080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"EsPUj.0.H86.lM86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE631C.DDC10080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UNSUBSCRIBE ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE631C.DDC10080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BE631C.DDC10080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 13:39:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31057; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:39:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:39:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD37@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:32:09 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"Qz18l.0.-B7.YZ86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i've now decided to officially get over myself. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 13:35:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29845; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:35:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:35:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD36@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: jamman NOT ME! Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:24:54 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"AAKjH1.0.Qc6.SS86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com found this in the recycler. DO NOT CALL OR E-MAIL ME! lexicon jam man great shape w/pedal & manual= 200.00 and digitech gsp 2101 artist pro great tube sounds= 350.00 or all for 500.00 lve message sta. clarita area jose Phone (661) 250-9173 cedron@pacbell.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 13:55:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02774; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:55:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:55:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: alex@cliff.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:43:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Resent-Message-ID: <"InCpd2.0.i5.Ol86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I don't play out all that much, but I've done theater sound design and toured for several years as the Kronos Quartet's sound guy. So I'm spoiled with load-in times measured in days rather than minutes. The last time I performed with my looping setup I had a hand-truck which I prewired offstage then rolled on. This made it possible to start playing into a loop even before getting up on stage; even though the dolly held two 12 space racks, plus a Yamaha 03D and a Powerbook. For interconnecting the racks, I've made wiring harnesses which bring everything from each rack out to Elco connectors, like the ones on the back of ADAT's. Then I have a bunch of fat Elco 16-pair patch cords; so I can unplug the processing racks from the Elco-ized patch bay rack in my home studio, and plug them directly into each other and into the mixer for live use. I cut little doors in the back of the SKB rack covers, so the back doors can stay on and the racks look pretty clean. As well as that worked, it sure doesn't fit under an airplane seat, which is my criteria for a good live rig. That's why I've spent the last three years working toward replacing the whole rig with a laptop or two. I've solved the latency issue as far as looping is concerned, and completed a few features which I have always wanted but never found in dedicated hardware boxes: reverse-offspeed playback while continuing to overdub, graphic timing display for multiple different-length loops, multi-level undo, and sampler-style random access to fragments of a loop. I have all this working, but yeah, it still crashes enough that I wouldn't be doing anyone any favors by posting it just yet. I just joined this list a couple months ago, prior to that I had no idea there were so many other people still playing with long regenerant (or degenerate?) delays. The first looping concert I gave was in 1977, playing my just-built electric upright bass with a pair of Ampex 1/2" four track decks 30 feet apart behind a curtain. The curtain caught and broke the tape as it went up, so I've enjoyed the risk factor of live looping from the beginning. Perhaps that explains why I think a software solution will be viable. (That, plus the idea that if you try and enter your datebook into your echoplex, it doesn't work so well either:-) -Alex S. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 14:47:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16425; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:47:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:47:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381898C7.F61EB5CF@cdm.sfai.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:41:14 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Organization: Center for Digital Media@ The San Francisco Art Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Bay area looper gettogether. References: <199910280732.AAA25341@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Resent-Message-ID: <"4lyNT1.0.Pa3.tX96u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, Count me in on any gathering of loopers. I met a few of you (including Kim) in that "ugly" (I personally didn't think it was too ugly...especially aurally speaking) cafe in North Oakland, but it would sure be nice to hang just for hanging sake. Without the focus of having to entertain or be entertained. As for getting together for music makage, count me in for that as well. Cheer-e-o -- Mark Sottilaro Multimedia Specialist Center for Digital Media San Francisco Art Institute (415) 771-7020 ext. 4411 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 14:55:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18305; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:55:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:55:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:59:16 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Dlangenes@aol.com Subject: Re: Reverb/Delay question Resent-Message-ID: <"0JhDw.0.Uh3.pa96u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi David... I used to be a tube amp Marshall kind of guy... went stereo eventually with a pair of 'em. Then migrated to a Pearce stereo pre/amp which was great. Torn, Holdsworth, Montrose used 'em... Worked great, but I was still having trouble integrating all my stomp fuzzes with the amp. Then I found the Boss GX-700, then a Boss GT-5. I've been *very* happy with the GT-5... The reverbs are still not a match for my Lexicon LXP15II, but they're *way* better than the Boss RV (whatever it is... had one just to check out and sold). The compressor and noise reduction is awesome when combined... still not as good as my TC compressor, but they're built into a comprehensive multi-fx / amp sim / spkr sim floor unit with foot pedal etc. It's really one of the best of the breed. It also loops like crazy with it's 1.8 secs... if you put a longer delay in the fx insert, you've got major damage in a shoulder bag goin' on... I'm either getting a Headrush or a Line6 Delay Modeler to complete my all floor small rig. The rack is still there for the kitchen sink approach! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> 10/28 1:42 AM >>> Loopers, I recently got rid of my rack effects (lexicon mpx 100 and nanocompressor) to simplify my live guitar setup, reduce hiss, etc, and reinvested in pedals. Only now (duh) I'm missing the kinds of rich, hall reverbs I was getting with the lexicon that my new boss reverb/delay can't hold a candle to. And then there's my boss comp/sustain which I'm still trying to get a subtle sound from. I was thinking of getting rack effects again and maybe fitting them into my pedal case under the pedals, but I don't know if they're durable enough for that kind of treatment and then there's the origional problem of the lexicon making too much hiss. Does anyone know of a line-level reverb unit that has studio quality sound? Is the idea of putting rack effects in my pedal board stupid? Am I playing the part of a clueless guitar player? David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 14:57:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19280; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:57:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:57:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <38189B90.F609E758@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:53:07 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"O71zs3.0.R24.Cg96u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com alex stahl wrote: > (That, plus the idea that if you try and enter your datebook into > your echoplex, it doesn't work so well either:-) i know what you mean. our accounting hasn't been the same since i started running quicken on the edp... lance g. ps your software sounds promising. be sure to post the list when you get it debugged! pps what means reverse-offspeed playback? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 15:03:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20746; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:03:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:03:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005b01bf2175$1d16ffc0$6dcf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:49:05 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"Xa2d53.0.6P4.nk96u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Alex Stahl > That's why I've spent the last three years working toward replacing the > whole rig with a laptop or two. > > I've solved the latency issue as far as looping is concerned... Please tell us how you've done this. I'd be very happy to have a laptop-based rig w/o using an expensive DSP-equipped sound card and associated PCI expansion chasis. Thanks, -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:21:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07705; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:21:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:21:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00aa01bf2180$2895ce20$6dcf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: Subject: Help My PMC10!! Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:08:05 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF215E.9EAACF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"aQm4g2.0.1O1.xuA6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF215E.9EAACF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, so I was the crazy one who paid $107.50 for the "wounded" PMC10 on = Ebay. I really wanted one, and resurrecting this one might be an = interesting project in its own right. Here's where I would greatly appreciate any help from you guys in the = following areas: 1. Power Supply: shouldn't be too difficult to find locally, but am I = correct in assuming that the little symbol on the back indicates need = for a 9V *AC* supply, with approx 300 mA current capacity? 2. Manual: anyone care to photocopy it, or scan it into *.pdf for me? Or = is it on the net somewhere? 3. Programmer: I'm expecting to do most programming with the "Raymond" = librarian prog, but I may want a hand-held programmer eventually. Anyone = have a spare they care to part with? How about a schematic so I can = build my own? Someone mentioned that another Digitech programmer which = is still availabe works, but the button labels are all wrong. Which one = was it, and what should the labels be to use it as a PMC10 programmer? 4. Missing End Cap(s): does anyone have a *DEAD* PMC10, or similar = sized/shaped Digitech footpedal, and would you be willing to sacrifice = your endcaps, or even the whole pedal body? Has anyone put the PMC10 = guts into a custom enclosure? If so, can you provide details or = suggestions? With your help, I can keep one more of these venerable devices alive and = kicking. If anyone is willing to provide physical items such as manuals = or parts, I will pay all expenses plus a little more for your troubles. = If anyone is willing to part with a fully-functional PMC10 programmer, I = would pay a fair price for that. Thank you all very much for your help, -- Mango -- ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF215E.9EAACF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Okay, so I was the crazy one who paid = $107.50 for=20 the "wounded" PMC10 on Ebay. I really wanted one, and resurrecting this = one=20 might be an interesting project in its own right.
 
Here's where I would greatly appreciate = any help=20 from you guys in the following areas:
 
1. Power Supply: shouldn't be too = difficult to find=20 locally, but am I correct in assuming that the little symbol on the back = indicates need for a 9V *AC* supply, with approx 300 mA current=20 capacity?
 
2. Manual: anyone care to photocopy it, = or scan it=20 into *.pdf for me? Or is it on the net somewhere?
 
3. Programmer: I'm expecting to do most = programming with the "Raymond" librarian prog, but I may want a = hand-held=20 programmer eventually. Anyone have a spare they care to part with? How = about a=20 schematic so I can build my own? Someone mentioned that another Digitech = programmer which is still availabe works, but the button labels are all = wrong.=20 Which one was it, and what should the labels be to use it as a PMC10=20 programmer?
 
4. Missing End Cap(s): does anyone = have a=20 *DEAD* PMC10, or similar sized/shaped Digitech footpedal, and would you = be=20 willing to sacrifice your endcaps, or even the whole pedal body? Has = anyone put=20 the PMC10 guts into a custom enclosure? If so, can you provide details = or=20 suggestions?
 
With your help, I can keep one more of = these=20 venerable devices alive and kicking. If anyone is willing to provide = physical=20 items such as manuals or parts, I will pay all expenses plus a little = more for=20 your troubles. If anyone is willing to part with a fully-functional = PMC10=20 programmer, I would pay a fair price for that.
 
Thank you all very much for your = help,
-- Mango --
------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF215E.9EAACF60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:22:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07996; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:22:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:22:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3818AE77.B227721D@engin.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:13:54 -0400 From: Darcy Clark Reply-To: darcyc@engin.umich.edu Organization: MSE, Umich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: vent spleens elsewhere .... please ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vhhQe.0.NC1.rtA6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com to all concerned in the recent off-topic 'debate' that seems to have now developed into a full-on flame-war - please take it to private email....most of us have absolutely no interest in who can come up with the most original put-down or slag-off. We're just here for the music. Also.....I just delete the off-topic messages, but there are people on this list who pay by the minute or kilobyte for internet access....just have a little consideration for these people before you post and everything should be cool. later, Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:34:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09674; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:21:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:21:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:08:54 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, chalchiuhtlicue@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Resent-Message-ID: <"Rg_tS2.0.Ck1.a696u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com kim... >> Well, I must say, I practically had tears in my eyes from laughing over this whole thing. ch... > Yes you are. (an asshole) And you are the one who needs to get over - yourself. Example: you laugh after you make blanket generalizations that are offensive to others: You still fail to realize that this was HUMOR... (and a reminder of what this list is about.) Your failure to listen to several other posts urging you to take a second look at Kim's statement and maybe observe your own extreme reaction says a little about your rigidity in dealing with what's transpired. You also take personally what was aimed at a fairly large group of individuals... why aren't the rest of us pissed off? Do you think we're AFRAID of Kim scolding us further? Get a grip... You're in a minority and need to get over yourself. > UNSUBSCRIBE To get off this list you'll have to go follow the instructions at the LD site. At least you've spelled it correctly! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:42:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02147; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:52:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:52:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) In-Reply-To: <19991028171910.45690.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"4nW4_.0.qg7.-g86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com umm, guests should just remove themselves quietly while the rest of us laugh at you (which seems to piss you ppl off even more) and walk out the door. too much fucking argument over such an issue. wonder if these same ppl whine about not having ops on irc? what a waste of everyones time. this isn't america, he can be as fascist as he feels necessary to keep the list on-topic, a list and a topic he started. you don't like it? yes, feel free to bitch. but i'd imagine a more "adult" way to deal with this whole thing would have been just to remove yourself from the list as soon as you felt "violated", without issue. i'd imagine the only reason you'd create such an "issue" out of a simple request to "stay on topic" would be to gain acceptance and support from others on this list. such validation seems very shallow. _______________________________________________________________________ James R. Pearce jamesrp@statenet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:52:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02774; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:55:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:55:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: alex@cliff.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:43:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Resent-Message-ID: <"InCpd2.0.i5.Ol86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I don't play out all that much, but I've done theater sound design and toured for several years as the Kronos Quartet's sound guy. So I'm spoiled with load-in times measured in days rather than minutes. The last time I performed with my looping setup I had a hand-truck which I prewired offstage then rolled on. This made it possible to start playing into a loop even before getting up on stage; even though the dolly held two 12 space racks, plus a Yamaha 03D and a Powerbook. For interconnecting the racks, I've made wiring harnesses which bring everything from each rack out to Elco connectors, like the ones on the back of ADAT's. Then I have a bunch of fat Elco 16-pair patch cords; so I can unplug the processing racks from the Elco-ized patch bay rack in my home studio, and plug them directly into each other and into the mixer for live use. I cut little doors in the back of the SKB rack covers, so the back doors can stay on and the racks look pretty clean. As well as that worked, it sure doesn't fit under an airplane seat, which is my criteria for a good live rig. That's why I've spent the last three years working toward replacing the whole rig with a laptop or two. I've solved the latency issue as far as looping is concerned, and completed a few features which I have always wanted but never found in dedicated hardware boxes: reverse-offspeed playback while continuing to overdub, graphic timing display for multiple different-length loops, multi-level undo, and sampler-style random access to fragments of a loop. I have all this working, but yeah, it still crashes enough that I wouldn't be doing anyone any favors by posting it just yet. I just joined this list a couple months ago, prior to that I had no idea there were so many other people still playing with long regenerant (or degenerate?) delays. The first looping concert I gave was in 1977, playing my just-built electric upright bass with a pair of Ampex 1/2" four track decks 30 feet apart behind a curtain. The curtain caught and broke the tape as it went up, so I've enjoyed the risk factor of live looping from the beginning. Perhaps that explains why I think a software solution will be viable. (That, plus the idea that if you try and enter your datebook into your echoplex, it doesn't work so well either:-) -Alex S. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:48:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15050; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:48:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:48:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:36:09 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, pancoe@netaxs.com Subject: Re: Help My PMC10!! Resent-Message-ID: <"jZfjc1.0.s03.wGB6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I could probably get a copy of my manual to you... I also am sure I have *at least* 2 additional controllers...BUT they're buried somewhere in my byzantine pile of stuff and I've not been able to locate them when there were request by others... I could stumble across them any time now (or not...) If you give me your mailing address, I'll try to get the manual to you. If I ever find a controller I'll let you know... Sheesh, where did I put those damn things!? I believe it was the Digitech SR7 controller which worked, but I believe the IPS33B also had a remote controller which works as well... (although I don't remember ever having one with MY IPS33B). Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Don "Mango" Pancoe" 10/28 1:16 PM >>> Okay, so I was the crazy one who paid $107.50 for the "wounded" PMC10 on Ebay. I really wanted one, and resurrecting this one might be an interesting project in its own right. Here's where I would greatly appreciate any help from you guys in the following areas: 1. Power Supply: shouldn't be too difficult to find locally, but am I correct in assuming that the little symbol on the back indicates need for a 9V *AC* supply, with approx 300 mA current capacity? 2. Manual: anyone care to photocopy it, or scan it into *.pdf for me? Or is it on the net somewhere? 3. Programmer: I'm expecting to do most programming with the "Raymond" librarian prog, but I may want a hand-held programmer eventually. Anyone have a spare they care to part with? How about a schematic so I can build my own? Someone mentioned that another Digitech programmer which is still availabe works, but the button labels are all wrong. Which one was it, and what should the labels be to use it as a PMC10 programmer? 4. Missing End Cap(s): does anyone have a *DEAD* PMC10, or similar sized/shaped Digitech footpedal, and would you be willing to sacrifice your endcaps, or even the whole pedal body? Has anyone put the PMC10 guts into a custom enclosure? If so, can you provide details or suggestions? With your help, I can keep one more of these venerable devices alive and kicking. If anyone is willing to provide physical items such as manuals or parts, I will pay all expenses plus a little more for your troubles. If anyone is willing to part with a fully-functional PMC10 programmer, I would pay a fair price for that. Thank you all very much for your help, -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:50:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15368; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:50:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:50:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991028204245.14364.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: dan sumner Subject: permagrin gig cancelled To: a a , chris becker , michael bober , Nick Boeglin , Kamal BouMikael , George Davis , Scott Edware , bart ferguson , Ann Marie Guidry , Lorenz Haeusle , Francis James , Amy Johnson , Stephan langdon , THOMAS NEWMAN , michelle Nunez , David POPE <75613.1761@compuserve.com>, Dereck Rollins , anita sumner , jason sumner , jason sumner , nick white , Tiktok WorldHQQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"oq2I23.0.P03.tGB6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tonight's Permagrin show at the Funky Butt, New Orleans, hass been cancelled due to a death in the Sumner family. We look forward to seeing you again soon. Dan and Lou ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:48:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15143; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:48:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:48:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910282022.QAA19893@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MIDI looper? Resent-Message-ID: <"g06z3.0.u_1.z2B6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 418 > From: Travis Hartnett > How flexible are the repeat parameters? It'd be nice to be able to specify > "precisely [n] repeats of the same volume" and so on. I'm at work, manual's at home. I'll try to remember to look it up over the weekend. But I do recall that you can set the amount of decrease in velocity. If set to -10 and your note has a velocty of 100, then the repeats will have velocities of 90, 80, 70, ..., 20, 10; giving you nine repeats. If there is another way to specify repeats, I forget off the top of my head. Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:52:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16102; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:52:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:52:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:44:36 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Resent-Message-ID: <"658Qn1.0.0W3.xOB6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Larry... I meant to pull it out and test it last night just to be sure, but got sidetracked... It sampled and the hold function worked fine... The delay seemed to match the direct level. But the thing that ticked me off about it was you couldn't kill the direct signal... I has a delay level knob instead of blend. I wanted to use it on an aux send... I've had few bites on this one, so let me check it out again, in line with some stomps to see if it's REALLY acting like it should. Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "L Tremblay" 10/25 5:41 PM >>> How well does it work? I gotta ask - someone sold me a broken RDS4000 once. Live and learn (and distrust). Thanks, Larry -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:08 PM Subject: FS: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... >Just another gear post... This one does loop! DFX 94... $95.00 plus shipping. > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:48:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15059; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:48:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:48:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:33:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Reverb/Delay question From: "Joey" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"OFl_u3.0.0J2.88B6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Something you may want to look into is multi effects floor processors. All of the $200 or so styles generally suck. The best I've played (I do prefere rack units) is the Rocktron Taboo Artist. Rocktron is top of the line. Very high quality stuff. Great preamp with rich overdrives to screaming distortion. Excelent compression. It has a nice noise gate and great multi effects. Lots of lush reverb. A very quiet box. It has inputs for an expression pedal. Complete MIDI implementation. There may even be a looper, but I'm not sure. I was using it as more of a tone box. Much higher quality sound than pedals, but I'm still partial to racks. It's also much better than a lot of the crap people like Boss and DOD are putting out now. They all skimp on tone and quality to put in more effects and features. Rocktron puts everything into it plus quality. It costs between $900 and $1100, which is darn good considering. These $200 boxes just piss me off. Digitech also makes a nice box. It is a rack module, but they make a floorboard specifically for it. I believe it's called the 2120 Valve Artist. Or Artist Valve...you get the idea. Also very nice...It's got full midi too, but I believe the foot controler (sold seperately) is operated on a simple 1/4" send and return. Hope this helps...just my opinion. ---------- >From: Dlangenes@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Reverb/Delay question >Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 4:39 AM > > Loopers, > > I recently got rid of my rack effects (lexicon mpx 100 and nanocompressor) to > simplify my live guitar setup, reduce hiss, etc, and reinvested in pedals. > Only now (duh) I'm missing the kinds of rich, hall reverbs I was getting with > the lexicon that my new boss reverb/delay can't hold a candle to. And then > there's my boss comp/sustain which I'm still trying to get a subtle sound > from. I was thinking of getting rack effects again and maybe fitting them > into my pedal case under the pedals, but I don't know if they're durable > enough for that kind of treatment and then there's the origional problem of > the lexicon making too much hiss. Does anyone know of a line-level reverb > unit that has studio quality sound? Is the idea of putting rack effects in my > pedal board stupid? Am I playing the part of a clueless guitar player? > > David > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:45:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04649; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:01:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:01:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:50:54 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, stanitarium@earthlink.net Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to aMailingList) Resent-Message-ID: <"WQ6MF3.0.lZ.er86u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Are we just talkin' beer here or are we all going over to Javier's or Kim's and jamming? In either case it would probably good fun! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Stan Card" 10/28 12:57 AM >>> Lets get those Bay-Area beer drinkin' looper guys together for once and for all. I'm in and I'll get the 1st round-who else??...stannerthemanner... ---------- >From: "Javier Miranda V." >To: >Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) >Date: Wed, Oct 27, 1999, 8:17 PM > > I met Kim a couple of weeks ago at an ugly cafe in north Oakland. He is > actually a very unassuming fellow, very friendly and open, salt of the > Earth. He's one very cool dude indeed. He even said we should get several > San Francisco Bay-area loopers together for a beer or something -- one of > those fancy liquors he likes to savor at night. > > Cheers 2, > Javier > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com [mailto:pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com] > | Sent: Wednesday 27 October 1999 6:28 PM > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > | Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a > | MailingList) > | > | > | I met Kim at this year's Winter NAMM and he's actually pretty > | cool in person. > | > | Cheers, > | Paolo > | > | > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:57:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17558; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:57:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:57:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:50:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Symbolic Sound's Kyma In-Reply-To: <199910280922.FAA21086@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"IXZXD2.0.vr3.4TB6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Drew Skyfyre wrote: > > I love the concept, but for that kind of cash, I'd want a > > system that was slightly more bullet-proof. > > Slightly irresponsible (dontchathink ?)dissing a product based on one user's > experience, the details of which u know nothing about, or at least haven't > told us, if u know. The internet's become notorious for this sort of thing. > Excuse me? I'm relating an event I witnessed first-hand and discussed with the Kyma owner. If you can explain how that is irresponsible, let me know. Drew, you seem like a huge Kyma fan (given what you said and all the included links and such). I'm sorry to contradict what you believe about the Kyma, but I certainly stand by what I said. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 17:13:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22065; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:13:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:13:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3819371B.1AB11835@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:56:43 -0700 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Help My PMC10!! References: <00aa01bf2180$2895ce20$6dcf08cf@donaldpancoe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ztjeb3.0.X_4.eiB6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Don \"Mango\" Pancoe wrote: > > 1. Power Supply: shouldn't be too difficult to find locally, but am I > correct in assuming that the little symbol on the back indicates need > for a 9V *AC* supply, with approx 300 mA current capacity? Don FYI the power suply is rated 9.75 vac 820 ma before all I would ask digitech if they still have them this wouldn't surprise me because I bought one spare last year In europe though claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 16:59:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18458; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:59:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:59:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:33:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"oMLCK3.0.rh2.TDB6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There are pretty good rules to live by. I can get insane sometimes with my set-up as well, but I have an extra rule that applies for my solo shows. Don't bring more than you can carry in one trip. This isn't always possible, but it's a pretty good goal. For my solo shows, I don't bring out the major wattage usually because I don't have to compete with everyone else on stage. So between instrument case, combo amp and backpack I can usually do the whole thing in one trip which makes me feel a lot safer when I can't park near the gig and don't have anyone to watch the car while I unload. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Having hauled around rigs of varying sizes, I use three rules: > > 1) Don't have any single piece of gear you can't lift by yourself. > 2) Don't have more stuff than fits into a vehicle you own. > 3) With everything stacked next to the stage, don't take more than 10 > minutes to setup. > > TH > > > > > From: "Liebig, Steuart A." > > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:54:03 -0400 > > To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" > > Subject: RE: Live Gig Rig Logistics > > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:49:58 -0400 > > > > > >> at what point does it > >> border on stupidity.setup time is 1/2-45 minutes?! > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 18:25:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06580; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:25:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:25:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:18:00 -0500 Subject: FS: JamMan $425 (Austin area) From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"x_l4M3.0.DE1.olC6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com LEXICON Jam Man $425. Retrospect bass compressor $350. Washburn fretless acoustic bass $550. (512) 452-5668 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 18:27:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07014; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:27:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:27:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3818CD0B.5F2FA965@webms.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:24:11 -0700 From: paul buelow Organization: WebMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: amateur audicracy References: <199910280732.AAA25341@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"MzcGh3.0.bH1.bmC6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com San Francisco 10/26/99 "Critical Mass - an aural bicycle adventure" Here is an audio composition titled "Critical Mass - an aural bicycle adventure". This downloadable or streaming audio recording includes sax, drums, synth and upright bass accompaniment; an aural interpretation of biking in San Francisco. You'll recognize the bells, news helicopters, whoops, cheers, swooshes, street bands, sirens and horns from a typical day cycling in San Francisco. It' audiocracy! (like xerocracy=handing out leaflets) Looping immitates commuting? http://www.ooto.com/cm99.ram Stream Real Audio low bandwidth - Modem http://www.ooto.com/cm99.rm Download Real Audio medium bandwidth - ISDN http://www.ooto.com/cm99.mp3 Mpeg3 high bandwidth - T1 High Speed I live near Oakland/SF and would enjoy the opportunity for discourse to foment ideas. I hope to meet, relax, jam and talk and possibly reveal the secret to zen and the art of looping. Thoughtfully, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 18:53:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13614; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:53:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:53:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <015001bf2194$f0c3bf60$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:36:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"jemCf.0.gY2.j2D6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Travis Hartnett wrote: > > > Having hauled around rigs of varying sizes, I use three rules: > > > > 1) Don't have any single piece of gear you can't lift by yourself. > > 2) Don't have more stuff than fits into a vehicle you own. > > 3) With everything stacked next to the stage, don't take more than 10 > > minutes to setup. Yeah, the one great thing about my current setup, joke that it is- it all fits into a standard briefcase. Of course, all I have is a DOD DFX pedal (the looper in my vast arsenal), a DOD wah/volume pedal, and an old Zoom 9002 handheld multi-effect unit (anyone remember those?). All three weigh about four pounds total, and there's plenty of room left over in the briefcase for cables, wall-warts, and even a surge protector. I guess those days will be over when I acquire an EDP and a Roland guitar-synth... if only. And, even though I'm not overly inundated with gear yet, I too am very interested in what Alex Stahl mentioned in his post, about replacing everything with a laptop or two. Keep us informed! Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 19:10:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18025; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:10:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:10:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MyWarNerve@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2df4d732.254a307f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:04:31 EDT Subject: Re: Run Over Yourself ... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"6JXxX1.0.Oz3.QQD6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com saints fan, BUD man, in NOLA, we don't play that shit From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 19:15:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19540; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:15:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:15:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005201bf2199$ee3002e0$b84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:06:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"Vlcd71.0.KR4.yVD6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Mike, OK. Thanks for lettinglme know. I wondering whether I actually e-mailed you. :) Larry -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:08 PM Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... >Hi Larry... I meant to pull it out and test it last night just to be >sure, but got sidetracked... It sampled and the hold function worked >fine... The delay seemed to match the direct level. But the thing that >ticked me off about it was you couldn't kill the direct signal... I >has a delay level knob instead of blend. I wanted to use it on an aux >send... I've had few bites on this one, so let me check it out again, >in line with some stomps to see if it's REALLY acting like it should. > > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > >>>> "L Tremblay" 10/25 5:41 PM >>> >How well does it work? I gotta ask - someone sold me a broken >RDS4000 >once. Live and learn (and distrust). > >Thanks, > >Larry >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Biffle >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Date: Monday, October 25, 1999 8:08 PM >Subject: FS: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... > > >>Just another gear post... This one does loop! DFX 94... $95.00 plus >shipping. >> >>Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual >distractions..." >>mbiffle@svg.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 19:27:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22098; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:27:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:27:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910282315.TAA05307@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:17:35 -0400 Subject: Re: UNSUSCRIBE From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3023983055_26414008_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <"MD5ZQ3.0.zm4.FaD6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3023983055_26414008_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit DO IT YOURSELF!!!!!! ---------- From: "nitesh patel" To: Subject: UNSUSCRIBE Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999, 5:18 PM UNSUBSCRIBE --MS_Mac_OE_3023983055_26414008_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: UNSUSCRIBE DO IT YOURSELF!!!!!!
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--MS_Mac_OE_3023983055_26414008_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 19:42:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26414; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:42:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:42:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: RE: Bay area looper gettogether. Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:37:02 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <381898C7.F61EB5CF@cdm.sfai.edu> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"qsd_W2.0.Fm5.SrD6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Me too. In fact, at one point I wanted to set up a party of chapman stick players, Korg Trinity Users and Loopers - from the three main intrument list I am on, but I am sooo busy :< bIz -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:mark@cdm.sfai.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:41 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Bay area looper gettogether. Hey, Count me in on any gathering of loopers. I met a few of you (including Kim) in that "ugly" (I personally didn't think it was too ugly...especially aurally speaking) cafe in North Oakland, but it would sure be nice to hang just for hanging sake. Without the focus of having to entertain or be entertained. As for getting together for music makage, count me in for that as well. Cheer-e-o -- Mark Sottilaro Multimedia Specialist Center for Digital Media San Francisco Art Institute (415) 771-7020 ext. 4411 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 19:58:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31230; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:58:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:58:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009e01bf219f$45d273c0$b84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: UNSUSCRIBE Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:50:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"tB3vm1.0.z-6.74E6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com When someone joins a list, they should actually READ THE FUCKING INSTRUCTIONS FOR UNSUBSCRIBING. christ, lamers... -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 7:44 PM Subject: Re: UNSUSCRIBE >DO IT YOURSELF!!!!!! >---------- >From: "nitesh patel" >To: >Subject: UNSUSCRIBE >Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999, 5:18 PM > > >UNSUBSCRIBE > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:14:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02625; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:14:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:14:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001701be6399$376589e0$e6b8173f@eracehomebase> From: "nitesh patel" To: Subject: unsuscribe Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:08:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE6356.28036140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"0XmsA.0.qR.ONE6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE6356.28036140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsuscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE6356.28036140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BE6356.28036140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:25:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05819; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:25:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:25:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991028172029.0154abb0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:20:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: unsuscribe In-Reply-To: <001701be6399$376589e0$e6b8173f@eracehomebase> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"QIAh51.0.Qq.ETE6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com unphukin buleevabul At 08:08 PM 2/28/99 -0800, dick wrote: >>>> Arialunsuscribe <<<<<<<< From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:32:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07529; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:32:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:32:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991028172736.015514e0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:27:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: unsuscribe In-Reply-To: <001701be6399$376589e0$e6b8173f@eracehomebase> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"rUPOh.0.k91.cZE6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim - anyway to keep the poster on the list but automatically reject his posts? At 08:08 PM 2/28/99 -0800, some idiot wrote: >>>> Arialunsuscribe <<<<<<<< From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:35:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08430; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:35:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:35:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001e01bf21a5$999a2600$7d98adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:36:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"m_ZN23.0.va1.vfE6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Miko, Larry . . . you two are posting your whole sordid interlude to the list-- cozy up in a corner somewhere ;) Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: L Tremblay To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:45 PM Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... >Hi Mike, > >OK. Thanks for lettinglme know. I wondering whether >I actually e-mailed you. :) > >Larry >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Biffle >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:08 PM >Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... > > >>Hi Larry... I meant to pull it out and test it last night just to be >>sure, but got sidetracked... It sampled and the hold function SNIP > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:36:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09125; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:36:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:36:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3818ECDB.658A56C0@erols.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:39:59 -0400 From: "J.G. Wong" Reply-To: adaaxs@erols.com Organization: Tokusatsu.com, Tokusatsu Access Archive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: re 301 tape References: <199910280535.BAA13423@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1Eofx.0.hv1.8jE6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use an 11-13 foot loop of Ampex (Quantegy) mastering tape. When possible I use answering machine mylar splices to cut down on the edit wow. They haven't made OEM (Roland) loops for so long that I would be very careful where I got them because they would have had to have been stored very carefully. Gino Wong From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:55:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13251; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:55:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:55:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991028204641.00913b40@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:46:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9uQJb.0.my2.l-E6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Lets get those Bay-Area beer drinkin' looper guys together for once >and for >all. I'm in and I'll get the 1st round-who >else??...stannerthemanner... I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just checking anyway. Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 20:58:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14422; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:58:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:58:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b201bf21a9$2b9f19e0$7d98adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Reverb/Delay question Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:01:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PpK1E3.0.4D3.b1F6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com all of the vets are going "DUUUUH!", but it took me a year and a half to rack my MPX 100, jammie, Vortex, RDS 8000 (and recently, Symetrix 606) and it's great having them in a movable package and well worth the $50 I paid for a pre-owned SKB 5 space shallow rack just got a 3 space for overflow--they're worth it I put the covers on when not using to reduce dusting I've been really pleased with the MPX 100 and haven't noticed a significant noise problem cept on a few normally noisy effects Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Dlangenes@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 3:47 AM Subject: Reverb/Delay question >Loopers, > >I recently got rid of my rack effects (lexicon mpx 100 and nanocompressor) to >simplify my live guitar setup, reduce hiss, etc, and reinvested in pedals. >Only now (duh) I'm missing the kinds of rich, hall reverbs I was getting with >the lexicon that my new boss reverb/delay can't hold a candle to. And then >there's my boss comp/sustain which I'm still trying to get a subtle sound >from. I was thinking of getting rack effects again and maybe fitting them >into my pedal case under the pedals, but I don't know if they're durable >enough for that kind of treatment and then there's the origional problem of >the lexicon making too much hiss. Does anyone know of a line-level reverb >unit that has studio quality sound? Is the idea of putting rack effects in my >pedal board stupid? Am I playing the part of a clueless guitar player? > >David > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 21:05:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16212; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:05:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:05:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991028205822.007b23f0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:58:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: unsuscribe In-Reply-To: <001701be6399$376589e0$e6b8173f@eracehomebase> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"tTRcy2.0.Nd3.S6F6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here are the "unsubscribe" instructions, as found on the LD site. Please note that the address is different from regular list postings, and observe the spelling of the word "unsubscribe". At 08:08 PM 2/28/99 -0800, you wrote: > unsuscribe Times New RomanI'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand. To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm having trouble subscribing/unsubscribing to the list. What's wrong? Usually people have trouble because they try to have a conversation with me or someone while subscribing. Don't do that. The subscription process is automated, and the mailing list server is very stupid. Idle conversation totally confuses it. It also will totally fail to understand the witty quote in your signature file. So turn those sig files off! If you say anything other than "subscribe" it makes a confused whimpering sound and then replies to you with a help file. You may want to consider reading the help file before resending the exact same subscribe mail 30 times. (you'd be surprised!) other common problems: - Don't use the quotes on "subscribe." It's just subscribe - Subscribe is spelled S - U - B - S - C - R - I - B - E. If you still have a problem, send me mail at: kflint@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 21:39:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA25857; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:39:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:39:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991028213010.00912820@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:30:10 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. In-Reply-To: <199910271650.MAA09710@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"IEGmM2.0.786.GdF6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >$3300 may seem like a lot of money, but even a Kurzweil K2600 can do but a >fraction of what Kyma can. Among their benchmarks for the base model is >listed the capablility to do 70 (mono) voices of sampling. You can build >some pretty freaky Echoplexes-out-of-a-dream in Kyma with this kind >of power ! Imagine having the ability to incorporate LFOs, resonant filters, >toy with the speed, pitch, direction, whatever of your loops in real time. I lurked in one of the Kurzweil web forums and the word is that the street price for a new K2600 is well into the $5000s. An outrageous price, but that's just my opinion. It supposedly can to realtime processing of incoming audio (not sure about being able to sample-on-the-fly and process like a dedicated looper such as the EDP/JamDudes/etc.), but only with the purchase of the expensive Sampling option. I did find the K2500 to have one really cool feature and that is the 2 foot-long ribbon controller (the K2600 comes with that too) that can be split into three independent ribbons. I found one patch where you can trigger a sound just by tapping on the ribbon (no need to touch the keyboard keys) and it will change its pitch if you tap on a different area or slide. I had a good time improvising on the ribbon with one- and two-handed tapping and sliding on the ribbon. As it turns out, Kurzweil also offers the ExpressionMate, which is just the ribbon controller with a box that has MIDI ports, breath controller port, ports for footswitches, MIDI mapping features, etc. It even has for some wacky reason 3 built-in arpeggatiors. The Harmony Central review says its actually quite a bit more powerful in the MIDI department than the ribbon controller that comes with the keyboards. With the breath controller and/or footpedal to control volume and the ribbon to control pitch, it's actually a viable musical instrument in its own right. Anyway, you may want to shout out to Jim Coker. If he's still on this list, he's the resident Kyma expert and can tell you his personal war stories. Actually, you may want to check out the Looper's Delight list archives for his posts. It's not like nobody ever heard of the Kyma before on this list. :) Starr Labs, makers of MIDI controllers for guitarists, recommended the Kyma/Capybara as the sound source for their MicroZone controller because it was (at the time - maybe its different now) the only commercially available synth/sampler that was capable of producing the resolution that one StarrLabs customer demanded - 768 notes to one octave! Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 21:43:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27437; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:43:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:43:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991028213537.0091b830@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:35:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ExpressionMate URL In-Reply-To: <004401bf214d$1cd08810$474badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"nqNs_3.0.QN6.dhF6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, since I brought it up, I might as well present the official URL for the thing: http://www.youngchang.com/kurzweil/html/expmate.html This product sounds too weird and cool to be in production for too long, so maybe this is something to watch for in blowout sales in the near future. I sure will be. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 21:45:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28037; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:45:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:45:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c3a939d1.254a5529@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:40:57 EDT Subject: "loops! we don't need no stinking loops" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"8blI41.0.7e6.WjF6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com so we can talk about a booze swillin, tea drinkin, coffee guzzelin, loop extravaganza, love in, somewhere in the bay area.......... (wish i could be there)..........but, strings are off topic..........its more than the moon...............:)............michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 22:11:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04115; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:11:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:11:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991029020611.31912.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: SoundRaider Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:06:10 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"n6l8V1.0.SU.55G6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I like it a lot. It's kept me from buying new CD's this week. >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: SoundRaider >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:23:00 EDT > >In a message dated 10/27/99 2:47:51 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, >subversive@mindspring.com writes: > ><< http://andyw.zinc.co.uk/raider/ > > Lemme know what ya think and how it works for you folks. > Sincerely, > Jeff McLeod > >> > >jeff.........thanks........very freaky.........michael > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 22:15:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05091; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:15:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:15:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991029021116.9967.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:11:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"S4_DK2.0.021.t9G6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com (sound of gasps and dropping silverware) >From: "chalchiuhtlicue" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a >MailingList) >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:22:50 -0500 > > > [And finally, since Mr. CH only subscribed on Monday, this next one >should > > be particularly relavant...] > > > > - When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a > > feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are >deemed > > off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel > > comfortable with the group, then start posting. > >I monitored the archives, dumbass, and have looked at threads that were >more >off-topic than your guitar strings pet peeve that passed without insulting >comment. They key to this is below: > > > And yes, I am an asshole. My daddy was an asshole before me, and his >daddy > > an asshole before him. Very long, proud asshole tradition. You'll just >have > > to get over it. ;-) > >Yes you are. And you are the one who needs to get over - yourself. >Example: >you laugh after you make blanket generalizations that are offensive to >others: > > > Well, I must say, I practically had tears in my eyes from laughing over > > this whole thing. > >Who's the one who doesn't apologize for their behavior? Refer to your >original post for context, Einstein. Grow up. > >UNSUBSCRIBE > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 22:21:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06888; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:21:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:21:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991029021723.80096.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: REMOVE` Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:17:23 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"LSnjU2.0.5W1.bFG6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, try "EXPUNGE" >From: "nitesh patel" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: REMOVE` >Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:18:13 -0800 > >REMOVE >From: "nitesh patel" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE > >UNSUBSCRIBE ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 22:37:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA11909; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:37:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:37:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991029023239.66757.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Knobs Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:32:39 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"fg1T23.0.Pm2.vTG6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi Larry... I meant to pull it out and test it last night just to be >sure, but got sidetracked... It sampled and the hold function worked >fine... The delay seemed to match the direct level. But the thing that >ticked me off about it was you couldn't kill the direct signal... I >has a delay level knob instead of blend. I wanted to use it on an aux >send... I've had few bites on this one, so let me check it out again, >in line with some stomps to see if it's REALLY acting like it should. Well, the "Level" knob on the left raises or lowers the echo/loop volume, much like the "blend" on some of my other effects. If you want to lower the instrument volume, you could use a volume pedal, or play quieter, or play farther away... The cool thing is that the "level" knob doesn't affect the recording level. You can record loops quietly and then turn up the level and force yourself to play with the result. Or you can record a loop before you start and fade it in later while you're playing. Keep in mind that some parakeets don't have knobs. (If you didn't know what we're talking about, that's supposed to throw you for another loop.) Mr. Lurk (p.s. : it rhymes with "God! Chia pets! Find me more!") ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 22:40:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13098; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:40:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:40:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003901bf21b5$d1c662e0$dd6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: REMOVE` Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:32:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"lPxvV1.0.1v2.6XG6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just a suggestion. some list that I am on have a link that is added to the end of all emails so people can either get on or off without any trouble. just a thought. fender flatwounds..............the strings for real loopers. lol From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 23:24:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23473; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:24:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:24:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ec01bf21bc$bfa89d10$b84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: "Tom Lambrecht" , Subject: Re: Reverb/Delay question - 5-space SKB Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:21:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ueyle2.0.DY5.a9H6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yep. The 5-space shallow rack is grrrrrreat. Affordable and relatively hernia proof. Highly recommended. Nice price you got BTW. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Reverb/Delay question >all of the vets are going "DUUUUH!", but it took me a year and a half to >rack my MPX 100, jammie, Vortex, RDS 8000 (and recently, Symetrix 606) and >it's great having them in a movable package and well worth the $50 I paid >for a pre-owned SKB 5 space shallow rack > >just got a 3 space for overflow--they're worth it > >I put the covers on when not using to reduce dusting > >I've been really pleased with the MPX 100 and haven't noticed a significant >noise problem cept on a few normally noisy effects > >Tom Lambrecht >hideo@concentric.net >-----Original Message----- >From: Dlangenes@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 3:47 AM >Subject: Reverb/Delay question > > >>Loopers, >> >>I recently got rid of my rack effects (lexicon mpx 100 and nanocompressor) >to >>simplify my live guitar setup, reduce hiss, etc, and reinvested in pedals. >>Only now (duh) I'm missing the kinds of rich, hall reverbs I was getting >with >>the lexicon that my new boss reverb/delay can't hold a candle to. And then >>there's my boss comp/sustain which I'm still trying to get a subtle sound >>from. I was thinking of getting rack effects again and maybe fitting them >>into my pedal case under the pedals, but I don't know if they're durable >>enough for that kind of treatment and then there's the origional problem of >>the lexicon making too much hiss. Does anyone know of a line-level reverb >>unit that has studio quality sound? Is the idea of putting rack effects in >my >>pedal board stupid? Am I playing the part of a clueless guitar player? >> >>David >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 23:27:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24481; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:27:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:27:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00fd01bf21bd$49f4aa90$b84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:25:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"nI6kt1.0.Bg5.DDH6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >(sound of gasps and dropping silverware) Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hahahahah I'm replying privately so people won't think I'm an idiot for laughing so uncontrollably. You kill me :) -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Tough To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) > > >>From: "chalchiuhtlicue" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a >>MailingList) >>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:22:50 -0500 >> >> > [And finally, since Mr. CH only subscribed on Monday, this next one >>should >> > be particularly relavant...] >> > >> > - When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a >> > feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are >>deemed >> > off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel >> > comfortable with the group, then start posting. >> >>I monitored the archives, dumbass, and have looked at threads that were >>more >>off-topic than your guitar strings pet peeve that passed without insulting >>comment. They key to this is below: >> >> > And yes, I am an asshole. My daddy was an asshole before me, and his >>daddy >> > an asshole before him. Very long, proud asshole tradition. You'll just >>have >> > to get over it. ;-) >> >>Yes you are. And you are the one who needs to get over - yourself. >>Example: >>you laugh after you make blanket generalizations that are offensive to >>others: >> >> > Well, I must say, I practically had tears in my eyes from laughing over >> > this whole thing. >> >>Who's the one who doesn't apologize for their behavior? Refer to your >>original post for context, Einstein. Grow up. >> >>UNSUBSCRIBE >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 23:28:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24581; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:28:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:28:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Loopbozo@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c6102628.254a6d37@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:23:35 EDT Subject: ..now you tell me! To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 23 Resent-Message-ID: <"l3omu2.0.ch5.hDH6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You mean there's a way to stop these messages from coming day in..day out for the last couple of years? That's what I get for being a techno-primitive. Last changed my strings....2 plus years ago, can't remember what kind.Last played out live 4 years ago this week.Loop all the time, but no more dog and pony show(see the musician ,see him play!). It's not like the legions of my fans are in any way dissapointed, and I think my gear feels safe in the basement (older devices benefit from that sense of well being..false or otherwise). As to this Kim fellow,I have it on good authority that Kim is not a real person, it's the initials of a Dutch company that specializes in internet domination...and not just of the conversation content. Bryan Helm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 23:29:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24649; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:29:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:29:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <010401bf21bd$787a74d0$b84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: REMOVE` Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:27:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"bY1-M3.0.5s5.REH6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >Hey, try "EXPUNGE" > You're EVIL! lol :) -----Original Message----- From: Mr. Tough To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:24 PM Subject: Re: REMOVE` > >Hey, try "EXPUNGE" > >>From: "nitesh patel" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>To: >>Subject: REMOVE` >>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:18:13 -0800 >> >>REMOVE > >>From: "nitesh patel" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>To: >>Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE >> >>UNSUBSCRIBE > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Oct 28 23:49:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29979; Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:49:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:49:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <013401bf21c0$5d892650$b84badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:47:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"XTlB1.0.QA7.vXH6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry about that everyone. Like I said... I was laughing WAY too much :-P -----Original Message----- From: L Tremblay To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 11:30 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a MailingList) >>(sound of gasps and dropping silverware) > >Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hahahahah > >I'm replying privately so people won't think I'm an idiot >for laughing so uncontrollably. > >You kill me :) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mr. Tough >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:18 PM >Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a >MailingList) > > >> >> >>>From: "chalchiuhtlicue" >>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>>To: >>>Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself to a >>>MailingList) >>>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:22:50 -0500 >>> >>> > [And finally, since Mr. CH only subscribed on Monday, this next one >>>should >>> > be particularly relavant...] >>> > >>> > - When you join a list, monitor the messages for a few days to get a >>> > feel for what common questions are asked, and what topics are >>>deemed >>> > off-limits. This is commonly referred to as lurking. When you feel >>> > comfortable with the group, then start posting. >>> >>>I monitored the archives, dumbass, and have looked at threads that were >>>more >>>off-topic than your guitar strings pet peeve that passed without insulting >>>comment. They key to this is below: >>> >>> > And yes, I am an asshole. My daddy was an asshole before me, and his >>>daddy >>> > an asshole before him. Very long, proud asshole tradition. You'll just >>>have >>> > to get over it. ;-) >>> >>>Yes you are. And you are the one who needs to get over - yourself. >>>Example: >>>you laugh after you make blanket generalizations that are offensive to >>>others: >>> >>> > Well, I must say, I practically had tears in my eyes from laughing over >>> > this whole thing. >>> >>>Who's the one who doesn't apologize for their behavior? Refer to your >>>original post for context, Einstein. Grow up. >>> >>>UNSUBSCRIBE >>> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 00:02:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01508; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:02:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:02:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffery Hildebrand X-Sender: jscotth@runner.ucdavis.edu To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: bay area loopy folks: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"-kmwh3.0.l4.8jH6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com is there any of you out there who are in yer twenties or younger? i'm 19, and i'm wondering if i'm the youngest looper here? well i love the idea of a bay area get together. i don't have my chapman stick or my triton yet, but i do have a guitar and a boomerang! so i'm up for it, scott From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 01:38:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28215; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:38:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:38:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991029053305.71355.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.138.71] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: jamman NOT ME! Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:33:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"23Nsy3.0.Fh6.47J6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry Is the jamman still available? I'll take it...Papa Dave >From: "Liebig, Steuart A." >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" >Subject: jamman NOT ME! >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:24:54 -0400 > >found this in the recycler. DO NOT CALL OR E-MAIL ME! > > > > lexicon jam man great shape w/pedal & manual= >200.00 and digitech gsp > 2101 artist pro great tube sounds= 350.00 or all >for >500.00 lve message sta. > clarita area > > > jose > Phone > (661) 250-9173 > > cedron@pacbell.net > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 03:17:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA14946; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:17:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 03:17:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910290713.AAA05873@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 00:16:53 -0700 Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7X7jX1.0.uP3.NaK6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well we are talking San Fran/Oaktown Bay-Area beer drinkin'looper guys...I guess we wait for you,Kim to pick up the ball(w/ your organizational powers that be) to set up a time and place around here in this loopy world!!!...stanner ---------- >From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) >Date: Thu, Oct 28, 1999, 5:46 PM > >>Lets get those Bay-Area beer drinkin' looper guys together for once >>and for >>all. I'm in and I'll get the 1st round-who >>else??...stannerthemanner... > > I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how > people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. > Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. > > I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just > checking anyway. > > Cheers, > Paolo > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 04:06:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23519; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:06:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:06:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:04:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991028204641.00913b40@pop-server> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Juy-O2.0.4g5.GJL6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, Paolo, I'm afaid you and I are *it* for this area. Any other *Tampa Bay* area loopers out there? Florida for that matter?? The southeast US??? Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how > people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. > Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. > > I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just > checking anyway. > > Cheers, > Paolo > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 04:25:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA26934; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:25:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:25:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008201bf21e6$b5104400$9f0a0118@lakwod1.co.home.com> From: "Russell" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19991028172736.015514e0@pop.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: unsuscribe Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:22:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"m2k5g2.0.PN6.NaL6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What is it that compels you people to be such assholes? Besides, I think you meant to say "any way"..... as in... "Is there ANY WAY I could obsess over the shortcomings of others just a bit more ?" ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:27 PM Subject: Re: unsuscribe Kim - anyway to keep the poster on the list but automatically reject his posts? At 08:08 PM 2/28/99 -0800, some idiot wrote: >>>> unsuscribe <<<< From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 05:06:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01723; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 05:06:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 05:06:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: spat@visi.com Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19991029090156.006b690c@pop.visi.com> X-Sender: spat@pop.visi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:01:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: HEY WHAT HAPPEN TO MY THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Resent-Message-ID: <"mipO82.0.rC.jAM6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com test (of patience) Re: Symbolic Sound's Kyma Drew said: >there's a partial list of Kyma users, including John Paul Jones who is using it >live on tour, John Paul Jones is looping on his tour, or was. To open the second set, he came out solo with the triple-necked acoustic he used in Zeppelin, and looped the various parts played on each neck. I'm not sure what looping device he used, but the looped sound was muddy and John Paul grimaced throughout the piece. He later in the tour dropped it from the set.. steve From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 08:01:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31354; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:01:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:01:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:55:49 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Weird Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Vab_c.0.uU7.sjO6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'd love to indulge in some kind of loopers get together. But I live in Minnesota, which is the land of the cold and the home of the frozen. How depressing. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 09:36:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20475; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:36:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:36:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:30:53 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199910291330.JAA21611@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"2YmGk2.0.wh4.t6Q6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #136 October 28, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I concluded the Oktoberfest celebration, a month-long focus on the artist roster of the German label Manikin. The feature CD at midnight was "Recall Level" by Rolf Trostel. Manikin : http://www.manikin.de EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html Steve Roach will appear at the next Gathering on Friday, November 5 at St. Mary's Church Sanctuary. The Electronic Music Mini Festival will be held at the Theatre 3-in-1 in Huizen, The Netherlands on October 30. Ron Boots & Friends, Syndromeda, Free System Project with Patchwork, Wave World, and Gert Emmens will be the performing artists. Music was played in support of these outstanding events. EMUSIC Events : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html The Gathering : http://www.starsend.org/20gather.html Mini Festival : http://home.wxs.nl/~quantumproductions/minifest.htm Mini Festival : http://www.groove.nl/news.html#oct99 ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm BlackTapeForABlueGirl TheFloorWasHardButHome AcrossAThousandBlades (Projekt) VA [Kevin Bartlett] SlowDayAtTheFaceFactory Aural Gratification 2 (A.Grat.) Syndromeda Best of Both Worlds Circles of Life (Groove) Arcane Time Will Run Back Gather Darkness (Neu Harmony) wEirD Klaus to the Edge ADifferentKindOfNormal(NeuHarm) Broekhuis, Keller, Fallen Angel The Anazaal Tapes (Manikin) Schonwalder & Friends Steve Roach Day Three * Stormwanint (Timeroom) 12:00 am Rolf Trostel Testtanz Recall Level desc 1 (Manikin) Rolf Trostel Artmeta Recall Level desc 1 (Manikin) Rolf Trostel Urteil Recall Level desc 1 (Manikin) Rolf Trostel Skizo Recall Level desc 1 (Manikin) Rolf Trostel I Love Europe Recall Level desc 1 (Manikin) Rolf Trostel It Is War In Europe Recall Level desc 1 (Manikin) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will begin a month-long focus on British synthesist Ian Boddy's new label, DiN. "Purveyors of fine comtemporary electronica." The Feature CD at Midnight will be "Box of Secrets" by Ian Boddy. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 09:52:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24469; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:52:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:52:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36DAD159.7EE1101E@gte.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:41:46 -0800 From: nitesh patel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0Elmd.0.RN5.VHQ6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i have ready made loops you just gotta sample em in to your sampler there pre sequenced at diffrent bpm e-mu phatt and e-mu orbit. mail me two blan discs and 10 bucks and i'll copy em for you the 10 bucks is for return shipping and whatever else it costs me they're preety awesome i got the asrx 1 disc to add another ten and i'll give you those sounds tesh patel 702 catalpa place brandon fl m33510 keep it down low i don't usually make pirated copies if you live in tampa you can just come over and copy em Future Perfect wrote: > Well, Paolo, I'm afaid you and I are *it* for this area. Any other *Tampa > Bay* area loopers out there? Florida for that matter?? The southeast US??? > > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > 'Future Perfect' - art music > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > > > > I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how > > people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. > > Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. > > > > I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just > > checking anyway. > > > > Cheers, > > Paolo > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 10:11:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28649; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:11:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:11:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36DAD624.AB5DB2D2@gte.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 10:02:12 -0800 From: nitesh patel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsuscribe References: <3.0.5.32.19991028205822.007b23f0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"z8Xsm1.0.Kd6.faQ6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com unsubscribe Tim Nelson wrote: > Here are the "unsubscribe" instructions, as found on the LD site. Please note that the address is different from regular list postings, and observe the spelling of the word "unsubscribe". > > At 08:08 PM 2/28/99 -0800, you wrote: > > unsuscribe > > I'm sorry, I need to unsubscribe from Looper's Delight. How do I do that? It's not that I dislike people there or anything, you understand. > > To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: > > Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > I'm having trouble subscribing/unsubscribing to the list. What's wrong? > > Usually people have trouble because they try to have a conversation with me or someone while subscribing. Don't do that. The subscription process is automated, and the mailing list server is very stupid. Idle conversation totally confuses it. It also will totally fail to understand the witty quote in your signature file. So turn those sig files off! > > If you say anything other than "subscribe" it makes a confused whimpering sound and then replies to you with a help file. You may want to consider reading the help file before resending the exact same subscribe mail 30 times. (you'd be surprised!) > > other common problems: > > - Don't use the quotes on "subscribe." It's just subscribe > > - Subscribe is spelled S - U - B - S - C - R - I - B - E. > > If you still have a problem, send me mail at: kflint@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 10:36:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02928; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:36:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:36:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:24:45 -0400 Subject: gibson article From: "klowy@wrinklemuzik" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iOgeJ3.0.V-7.OwQ6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this probably seems a bit off topic, but this (URL below) is an interesting article about gibson and opcode (oberheim is mentioned!). i'm wondering if kim has any comments to add (especially since it is almost november, and still no sign of the EDP). klowy http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/6454/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 10:53:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07823; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:53:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:53:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tomr@pop.interport.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:46:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: gibson article Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"c4lIX1.0.dQ1.uBR6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >this probably seems a bit off topic, but this (URL below) is an interesting >article about gibson and opcode (oberheim is mentioned!). i'm wondering if >kim has any comments to add (especially since it is almost november, and >still no sign of the EDP). > >klowy > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/6454/index.html I've been active on the Opcode user's mailing list and I have to say that it was Gibson's behavior that made me refuse to confirm for the Echoplex group purchase list. Frankly, if what I'm starting to suspect is true, I have been sent a letter from the president of Gibson which is, if not factually untrue, highly misleading. And if so I have suffered a pretty nasty loss financially in terms of work in old and perhaps unretrievable formats as well as time and software money invested. My personal advice is not to have anything to do with Gibson in any position where you have to trust them. If you are presented with a burned-in and working Echoplex, go for it, but otherwise I'd wait for something else to come up. /t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 10:45:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05808; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:45:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:45:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009f01bf2219$ca4af4e0$9ecf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: <19991029020611.31912.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: SoundRaider Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:27:52 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"Y4D_T.0.DQ.s_Q6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff McLeod wrote: >Lemme know what ya think and how it works for you folks. I like it. One of the cooler shareware proggies I've downloaded recently. When I heard it, my first thought was "this would be great for an art installation." When I played it for my fiance, she said "I feel like I'm in somebody's art installation." Another cool bit of freeware I've found, which would make for cool looping material (although it doesn't loop on its own,) is "SayIt" from AnalogX. It is a speech-synthesis program based on the old Texas Instruments Speak and Spell. http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/audio/sayit.htm -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 11:01:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10182; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:01:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:01:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b8ec19f0.254b0dd4@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:48:52 EDT Subject: Re: ozric To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"cve0A2.0.bf1.BGR6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry, I don't know what equipment he's using outside of a few ARP's that are pictured on the inside of the CD covers. Glad to see that they're back together again, the new album, "Waterfall Cities" is a blast. Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 11:27:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16369; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:27:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:27:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:13:47 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, hideo@concentric.net Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... Resent-Message-ID: <"rmHNd2.0.2D3.DeR6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Escuse me folks! My mailer always takes the first address when I do a normal reply and instead of the poster, it's friggin' Loopers Delight... I always have to reply all, then delete the LD address... I'll eventually get it right! Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Tom Lambrecht" 10/28 5:34 PM >>> Miko, Larry . . . you two are posting your whole sordid interlude to the list-- cozy up in a corner somewhere ;) Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: L Tremblay To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:45 PM Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... >Hi Mike, > >OK. Thanks for lettinglme know. I wondering whether >I actually e-mailed you. :) > >Larry >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Biffle >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:08 PM >Subject: Re: DOD DFX 94 four second delay... > > >>Hi Larry... I meant to pull it out and test it last night just to be >>sure, but got sidetracked... It sampled and the hold function SNIP > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 11:33:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18117; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:33:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:33:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <019b01bf2221$5b00afa0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: SoundRaider Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:22:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"haxAg.0.if3.-kR6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I got a copy sometime back and I love it. We had an evening of improv music, images, and dance called "A Wolf in the Bath Tub" last month. From the Web I downloaded a bunch of wolf calls in WAV files and recorded myself saying "A Wolf in the Bath Tub". I used these files with SoundRaider to provide "audience assembly and dis-assembly" music, etc. Worked great! I really like how you can change the feel of SoundRaider by changing which WAV files it uses. For example - If you use a bunch of didjeridu, singing bowl, and birdcall WAV files you get one feel. If you use a bunch of Beatle songs you get a completely different feel. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 11:41:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20042; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:41:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:41:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991029102736.007c7e30@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:27:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.19991028204641.00913b40@pop-server> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"7yzw7.0.8E4.trR6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Montgomery, AL here. Perhaps we can all find some mid-south area to do something? Sincerely, Jeff McLeod At 04:04 AM 10/29/1999 -0400, you wrote: > Well, Paolo, I'm afaid you and I are *it* for this area. Any other *Tampa >Bay* area loopers out there? Florida for that matter?? The southeast US??? __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 11:41:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19974; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:41:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:41:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <0.1e242e31.254b17ed@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:31:57 EDT Subject: Re: A question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"lQqNd2.0.3O4.auR6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've had some really great luck going through http://www.smellygig.com/atomic/ for used rack's... Another place to check out is http://www.wmcworld.com Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 13:26:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13233; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:26:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:26:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C412FD45@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: jamman NOT ME! Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:09:55 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"FxgZx.0.aG2.-KT6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Sorry Is the jamman still available? I'll take it...Papa Dave > ** PLEASE READ MY ORIGINAL MESSAGE - - see highlighted portions below > >From: "Liebig, Steuart A." > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" > >Subject: jamman NOT ME! > >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:24:54 -0400 > > > >found this in the recycler. 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:37:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30806; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.66e61134.254b3f63@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:19 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"M6Nau.0.zT6.kMU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:37:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30832; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.2dfa7dfd.254b3fa1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:21:21 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"wUgWz3.0.xY6.hNU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:37:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30760; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.78308f5b.254b3f94@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:21:08 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"-vu7.0.oX6.UNU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:37:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30771; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.20c53a8b.254b3f6d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:29 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"UmdYI2.0.WM6.WMU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:37:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30915; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:37:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.87b882ce.254b3f82@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:50 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"9ckLr2.0.sW6.LNU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:49:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01573; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00f401bf2239$776aee40$5a05020a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Reply-To: "Ken M" From: "Ken Melms" To: Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:14:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZHUZ72.0.d-5.0GU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How did you solve the latency issue? What OS? What hardware? I asked a question about this kind of setup a while back and was pointed towards a few sources, but their latencies were all 100ms or more... Almost useless. I'd love to know more about your work. Ken wgold@mags.net / wgold@mecasw.com -----Original Message----- From: Alex Stahl To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 4:57 PM Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics >Hi, > >I don't play out all that much, but I've done theater sound design and >toured for several years as the Kronos Quartet's sound guy. So I'm spoiled >with load-in times measured in days rather than minutes. The last time I >performed with my looping setup I had a hand-truck which I prewired >offstage then rolled on. This made it possible to start playing into a >loop even before getting up on stage; even though the dolly held two 12 >space racks, plus a Yamaha 03D and a Powerbook. For interconnecting the >racks, I've made wiring harnesses which bring everything from each rack out >to Elco connectors, like the ones on the back of ADAT's. Then I have a >bunch of fat Elco 16-pair patch cords; so I can unplug the processing racks >from the Elco-ized patch bay rack in my home studio, and plug them directly >into each other and into the mixer for live use. I cut little doors in the >back of the SKB rack covers, so the back doors can stay on and the racks >look pretty clean. > >As well as that worked, it sure doesn't fit under an airplane seat, which >is my criteria for a good live rig. >That's why I've spent the last three years working toward replacing the >whole rig with a laptop or two. >I've solved the latency issue as far as looping is concerned, and completed >a few features which I have always wanted but never found in dedicated >hardware boxes: reverse-offspeed playback while continuing to overdub, >graphic timing display for multiple different-length loops, multi-level >undo, and sampler-style random access to fragments of a loop. I have all >this working, but yeah, it still crashes enough that I wouldn't be doing >anyone any favors by posting it just yet. > >I just joined this list a couple months ago, prior to that I had no idea >there were so many other people still playing with long regenerant (or >degenerate?) delays. The first looping concert I gave was in 1977, playing >my just-built electric upright bass with a pair of Ampex 1/2" four track >decks 30 feet apart behind a curtain. The curtain caught and broke the tape >as it went up, so I've enjoyed the risk factor of live looping from the >beginning. Perhaps that explains why I think a software solution will be >viable. (That, plus the idea that if you try and enter your datebook into >your echoplex, it doesn't work so well either:-) > >-Alex S. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:49:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01709; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.81527c19.254b3f74@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:36 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"ecBgQ3.0.6V6.-MU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:50:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01791; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:50:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:50:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.21765115.254b3f9a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:21:14 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"nSFgR3.0.tV6.8NU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:49:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01659; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.de0a71de.254b3f5a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:10 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"D9GJ92.0.EO6.YMU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:49:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01582; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:49:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.858fef4b.254b3f8f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:21:03 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"n4QMR2.0.vX6.UNU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:52:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02694; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:52:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:52:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.b6ffbd0d.254b3f89@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:57 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"2V1Mm2.0.gW6.KNU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 14:56:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03564; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:56:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:56:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Anomoleee@aol.com Message-ID: <0.cc63062c.254b3f7b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:20:43 EDT Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"ID7ON1.0.WV6.5NU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jane, get me off this crazy thing! 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Sincerely, anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 15:52:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17325; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:52:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:52:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-Id: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C7F6@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:02:01 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"b2OQl3.0.aH1.czU6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What an idiot. As if sending the same Unsubscribe note to the list multiple times will do the job. Read the instructions you got when you subscribed. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: Anomoleee@aol.com [SMTP:Anomoleee@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:21 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > Jane, get me off this crazy thing! > > Please unsubscribe me from this list. > > Sincerely, > anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 16:19:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24006; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:19:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:19:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3819F6BB.4E4E27C2@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:34:19 -0700 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <0.2dfa7dfd.254b3fa1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"x--e31.0.q33.lQV6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Loopers: Before anyone else goes crazy with this latest request to be unsubscribed, please consider the following: Some of us like to make fun of newbie listers who don't know how to unsubscribe, (including me, albeit without e-mail comment), and are baffled at their seemingly total lack of brains. However, I must say that I've noticed the more we all make fun of these folks, the less the quality of loop (or other) conversation. Instead of adding more mess to the mess, how about sending these people instructions or pointers directly to their personal e-mail address? Or perhaps posting unsubscribe instructions periodically to the list itself, calmly and kindly? I'm getting tired of the noise, and want this list be as great as it can be and has been. I'm going to try to follow my own advice too. :-) Jim unsubscribe instructions can be found here http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html or follow these instructions, from that page: To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anomoleee@aol.com wrote: > > Jane, get me off this crazy thing! > > Please unsubscribe me from this list. > > Sincerely, > anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 17:52:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12564; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:52:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:52:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000301bf224d$1451e200$c06fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: "Loopers" Subject: picking question????? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:35:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"1dQ7B.0.037.aOW6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i have a question to the guitars out there. what is the best way to hold a pick. i for years now hold my pick somewhat like you would a dart( you know as in a dart board.) i saw this guy a bar play very very fast something i have been trying to do but he held his pick differently. http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/f/p/fpm108/glw/pictures/lesson3_figure1.jp g this is how he held it. i took this off of a guitar lesson page. any thoughts? iafter trying this i have found i can play fast but not as articulate. than again my pointing finger isn't wearing down to the bone playing it this new way for me. postaldave@qx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 17:58:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13698; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381A3044.AE1DD919@node.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:39:48 -0700 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: * - node - * X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: gibson article References: <199910291922.PAA09719@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-dkuA1.0.w-6.5NW6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lawd a'mercy! Just read this article and, while I generally prefer sending out prospecti for pyramid schemes, lame jokes and nude Pat Paulsen JPEGs via e-mail in lieu of gossip-mongering, this article seems very much on-topic for our purposes and demonstrably credible; e.g., Chris Halaby either is or is not suing Gibson. Discuss... **WARNING** Off-topic discussion to follow by a guitarist who unapologetically, blanketly generalizes, compulsive asshole that I am and whom I am unable to get over, much less get one over on, Einstein!! I was most alarmed to discover in this article that, like Oberheim Musical Instruments, Gibson has proprietary ownership of ZIPI, the once-much-touted protocol intended to be a successor to MIDI and currently only used by musicking thought-thug geeks in the academy who have the proper "connections". Perhaps now Gibson might buy the Amiga platform from Gateway, so as to continue their success in killing technologies dead-but-for-the-burying/acquiring? I'm with ya, Tom -- let us consider no longer waiting for Godot in the form of the "new, improved" EDP. Kim, maybe it's time to open up negotiations with Digitech? ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >this probably seems a bit off topic, but this (URL below) is an interesting > >article about gibson and opcode (oberheim is mentioned!). i'm wondering if > >kim has any comments to add (especially since it is almost november, and > >still no sign of the EDP). > > > >klowy > > > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/6454/index.html > > I've been active on the Opcode user's mailing list and I have to > say that it was Gibson's behavior that made me refuse to confirm > for the Echoplex group purchase list. > > Frankly, if what I'm starting to suspect is true, I have been > sent a letter from the president of Gibson which is, if not > factually untrue, highly misleading. And if so I have suffered > a pretty nasty loss financially in terms of work in old and > perhaps unretrievable formats as well as time and software > money invested. > > My personal advice is not to have anything to do with Gibson > in any position where you have to trust them. If you are > presented with a burned-in and working Echoplex, go for it, > but otherwise I'd wait for something else to come up. > > /t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 17:58:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13671; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:58:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:31:39 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, zebu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Resent-Message-ID: <"xpqU5.0._k6.1JW6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My paranoid twin want me to believe that the guy who flamed Kim has returned with another "throw away" address and name and is now tormenting us for being meanies... And from the look of Nitesh Pratel's only post with a subject other than "suscrabp" He'll be selling pirated samples and forming a looping supergroup with Paolo and Jim down in Tampa... Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 18:06:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16014; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:06:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:06:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007c01bf2254$255b4940$9f0a0118@lakwod1.co.home.com> From: "Russell" To: References: <0.2dfa7dfd.254b3fa1@aol.com> <3819F6BB.4E4E27C2@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:25:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"DxBal2.0.Yh1.x2X6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com AGREED!!! I sent a note to the multiple poster giving him the instructions. Let's keep this civil and we'll all be deleting a lot less mail with subject lines reading "Re: unsubscribe" Peace Russell Henry Ward Beecher ********* ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Poppen To: Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:34 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribe Loopers: Before anyone else goes crazy with this latest request to be unsubscribed, please consider the following: Some of us like to make fun of newbie listers who don't know how to unsubscribe, (including me, albeit without e-mail comment), and are baffled at their seemingly total lack of brains. However, I must say that I've noticed the more we all make fun of these folks, the less the quality of loop (or other) conversation. Instead of adding more mess to the mess, how about sending these people instructions or pointers directly to their personal e-mail address? Or perhaps posting unsubscribe instructions periodically to the list itself, calmly and kindly? I'm getting tired of the noise, and want this list be as great as it can be and has been. I'm going to try to follow my own advice too. :-) Jim unsubscribe instructions can be found here http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html or follow these instructions, from that page: To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anomoleee@aol.com wrote: > > Jane, get me off this crazy thing! > > Please unsubscribe me from this list. > > Sincerely, > anomoleee@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 18:29:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21429; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:29:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:29:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910292153.RAA11053@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:56:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SdHF91.0.AF3.1UX6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i am in atlanta... ---------- >From: "Future Perfect" >To: >Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) >Date: Fri, Oct 29, 1999, 4:04 AM > > Well, Paolo, I'm afaid you and I are *it* for this area. Any other *Tampa >Bay* area loopers out there? Florida for that matter?? The southeast US??? > >Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices >http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > >'Future Perfect' - art music >http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > > >> >> I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how >> people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. >> Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. >> >> I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just >> checking anyway. >> >> Cheers, >> Paolo >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 18:34:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22860; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:34:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:34:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C7FB@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: picking question????? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:58:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"dKDta3.0.Mf3.ncX6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After the String Uproar of Late '99, you ask this question??!! You are a brave soul, indeed. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: postaldave [SMTP:postaldave@qx.net] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:35 PM > To: Loopers > Subject: picking question????? > > i have a question to the guitars out there. what is the best way to hold a > pick. i for years now hold my pick somewhat like you would a dart( you > know > as in a dart board.) i saw this guy a bar play very very fast something i > have been trying to do but he held his pick differently. > http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/f/p/fpm108/glw/pictures/lesson3_figure1. > jp > g this is how he held it. i took this off of a guitar lesson page. > > any thoughts? iafter trying this i have found i can play fast but not as > articulate. than again my pointing finger isn't wearing down to the bone > playing it this new way for me. > > postaldave@qx.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:09:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31460; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:09:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:09:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002901bf2260$c10ca760$4e6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: picking question????? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:55:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"rNM1g2.0.787.GSY6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "After the String Uproar of Late '99, you ask this question??!! You are a brave soul, indeed." it's a good way to weed out the weak.lol postaldave@qx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:14:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA32711; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:14:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:14:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901bf225d$ee17bfe0$4e6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:35:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"7DhO63.0.e_5.I9Y6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why people loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they are forced to play by themselfs? who knows.................doing an all night jam........by myself...................your not invited.lol postaldave@qx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:17:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00746; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:17:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:17:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b601bf225f$25df6c60$2796adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Cc: "b 0 r" Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:44:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"c4dXV2.0.9s5.a7Y6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Russell--I know we're cruel and I think back to my beginning net days when I couldn't figure out how to log on to my ISP, much less unsubscribe . . . your suggestion is of course the humane and bandwidth efficient way to do it it's not just a Loopers thing to love to witness the DANGLING . . . the faucet drip . . . equipoised between here and eternity, waiting for the other shoe to drop caught in the spider's web awaiting the inevitable . . . dang is that glass empty again . . . BOY!! more GRAPPA! BTW ON TOPIC--beware the Symetrix 606 dual mod delay--last nite I almost didn't make it back out ;) drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Russell To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:11 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribe >AGREED!!! >I sent a note to the multiple poster giving him the instructions. >Let's keep this civil and we'll all be deleting a lot less mail with subject >lines reading "Re: unsubscribe" >Peace >Russell > > >Henry Ward Beecher >********* SNIP From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:19:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01262; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:19:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:19:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001501bf225d$85228c40$4e6fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: picking question????? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:32:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"KTozT.0.Nq5.s6Y6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/f/p/fpm108/glw/pictures/lesson3_figure1.jp g opps.. forgot the g at the end From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:20:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02114; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:20:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:20:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ab01bf225e$09cd8f80$2796adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:36:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"QeXDt3.0.JF5.L_X6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com not so sure--it's just that geo-magnetic anomaly in conjunctionwith the full moon that is corrupting newsgroup chats everywhere I mean, Larry T. is even being testy . . . SO unlike him ;) and as far as our other unwilling participant, "removeme it's not what i thunk it was lots doubles and junk" ranks right up there with the upper case Neanderthal posts as far as pure enntertainment like the Visa commercial sez' . . . "priceless" Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com ; zebu@mindspring.com Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:07 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribe >My paranoid twin want me to believe that the guy who flamed Kim has >returned with another "throw away" address and name and is now >tormenting us for being meanies... > >And from the look of Nitesh Pratel's only post with a subject other >than "suscrabp" He'll be selling pirated samples and forming a looping >supergroup with Paolo and Jim down in Tampa... > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:19:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01827; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:19:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:19:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381A285C.85C8ABCF@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:06:05 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce YourselftoaMailingList) References: <199910292153.RAA11053@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3-pwo3.0.tI7.eTY6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i'm in conyers, close to atlanta, lets jam! Christopher White wrote: > i am in atlanta... > ---------- > >From: "Future Perfect" > >To: > >Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) > >Date: Fri, Oct 29, 1999, 4:04 AM > > > > > Well, Paolo, I'm afaid you and I are *it* for this area. Any other *Tampa > >Bay* area loopers out there? Florida for that matter?? The southeast US??? > > > >Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > >http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > > >'Future Perfect' - art music > >http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > > > > > > >> > >> I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how > >> people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. > >> Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. > >> > >> I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just > >> checking anyway. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Paolo > >> > >> > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 19:34:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05943; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:34:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:34:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991029190351.00916b10@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:03:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: picking question????? In-Reply-To: <000301bf224d$1451e200$c06fc8d0@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"d5aTr3.0._g7.DaY6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 04:35 PM 10/29/99 -0400, you wrote: >i have a question to the guitars out there. what is the best way to hold a >pick. i for years now hold my pick somewhat like you would a dart( you know >as in a dart board.) i saw this guy a bar play very very fast something i >have been trying to do but he held his pick differently. >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/f/p/fpm108/glw/pictures/lesson3_figure1.jp >g this is how he held it. i took this off of a guitar lesson page. Yes, this is the way I was taught by my jazz guitar teacher (back when I was actually playing guitar - I play mostly tabla these days). For me, it was basically learning how to play all over again because I was holding my pick like Steve Morse, but my teacher deemed it a necessity because I was taking an classical guitar to private and small group lessons and the Steve Morse method was not producing enough volume acoustically. If you ask 10 guitarists, you will probably get 10 different answers. :) Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 20:09:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13961; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:09:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:09:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029162154.0145fb60@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:21:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: 606 In-Reply-To: <00b601bf225f$25df6c60$2796adce@satellite> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Ljq9K1.0.BC.2iY6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yeah - i was going to ask about that since you mentioned it in the rack posting. How's it compare to the vortex? Or to word another way - keeping the vortex? sean At 05:44 PM 10/29/99 -0500, Tom L wrote: >BTW ON TOPIC--beware the Symetrix 606 dual mod delay--last nite I almost >didn't make it back out ;) > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 20:30:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18531; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:30:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:30:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:25:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Symetrix 606 Cc: hideo@concentric.net Resent-Message-ID: <"cPX_h1.0.n_.qrY6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tom Lambrecht said: >BTW ON TOPIC--beware the Symetrix 606 dual mod delay--last nite I almost >didn't make it back out ;) Thank Gawd! So tell us a little about this machine, I remember being enthused with the feature set and price point of the machine, until I read about the user interface... Compared to other units, just how usable is it? What features set it apart from the Vortex or the Korg AM-8000 best- Mark (desperately trying to avoid more mail on strings and picking technique) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 20:49:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23058; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:49:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:49:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381A3302.A65EFAA4@minds-eye.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:51:30 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: Cheap gear for sale (delete if not interested) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OVRXh2.0.Ha2.-DZ6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I suppose this is on topic (enough) I have some pedals that I'm selling if anyone is interested. The caveat, these all have some quirk or another (I'll describe them later) so the prices are low ( I think). Digitech PDS 1002, 2 second delay pedal with sample/hold. Very nice delay that has a few unfortunate quirks (inquired after a few weeks ago here). When you hold the delay loop, it will sometimes (not always) begin to modulate slightly (slows down, speeds up, etc.). A nice enough effect in itself I suppose, but I have too many stray pedals at the moment and want other things. The pedal has delay time, regeneration, mix and input and output knobs that can be tweaked to alter the loop in strange and unusual ways without destroying the loop (or introducing digital noise). I'll sell it for $40 (postage paid to the US (I'll also throw in the power adapter). Boss Super Phaser. The BRIGHT green one. Very nice sound, rate, depth resonance and mode (I and II, or sort of a low and high). The problem here, the pedal took a spill years ago and the rate knob was knocked off (fixed at the slowest currently). I still have the knob, I just never took the trouble to repair the beast. The unit ships with the original knob and a power supply for $45 postage paid. And finally, a Morley Power Wah Boost. Big silver pedal (heavy too) that has Wah, Fuzz, Volume and Fuzz Wah (Boost intensity dial). The pedal action is very loose and the unit is noisy. Perhaps its an easy clean up job and you've got a great wah pedal, but not for me. I'll sell it for $30 (you pay the shipping on this one). The power cable is attached to the unit (no wall wart for this beast). I think these are basically good pedals in need of some care (which I can't provide) and these are sold as is (which is, working with quirks). If you're interested, drop me a line. Thanks for looking Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 20:50:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23454; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:50:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:50:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C809@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: picking question????? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:41:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"4Cvq03.0.qx1.q2Z6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Okay, I'll bite. I had to abandoned the speed co-efficient awhile ago. I wasn't go to be John Mclauglin, or any of those great African guitarists out of Zaire. So, naturally, I started to use a pick and my middle finger in combination or in tandem. It's served me well. Now, if only I can get the other fingers involved. "Lenny Breau - white courtesy phone!" Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com [SMTP:pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 4:04 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: picking question????? > > At 04:35 PM 10/29/99 -0400, you wrote: > >i have a question to the guitars out there. what is the best way to hold > a > >pick. i for years now hold my pick somewhat like you would a dart( you > know > >as in a dart board.) i saw this guy a bar play very very fast something i > >have been trying to do but he held his pick differently. > >http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/f/p/fpm108/glw/pictures/lesson3_figure1 > .jp > >g this is how he held it. i took this off of a guitar lesson page. > > Yes, this is the way I was taught by my jazz guitar teacher (back when I > was actually playing guitar - I play mostly tabla these days). For me, it > was basically learning how to play all over again because I was holding my > pick like Steve Morse, but my teacher deemed it a necessity because I was > taking an classical guitar to private and small group lessons and the > Steve > Morse method was not producing enough volume acoustically. > > If you ask 10 guitarists, you will probably get 10 different answers. :) > > Cheers, > Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 20:50:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23488; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:50:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:50:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004601bf2266$eeba2b50$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe - Lone grumpy loopers Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:40:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"yJO5p.0.mj1.10Z6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > ...could it be that they can't get along with other players so they are >forced to play by themselfs? I *prefer* to work alone - that way no one's gonna put their grubby little fingers all over my ideas. :) Half-kidding... - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 21:01:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26756; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:01:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:01:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.c616b07a.254b99bd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:45:49 EDT Subject: controllers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"bEyXt3.0.iP5.D0a6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com uhm... just curious, but isn't anyone using a Lexicon MRC as a controller?... I had one for a little while and it sat nicely on top of my rack doing a great job... just found I had to use my fingers too much for other things and couldn't spare them for the slider thingies... they could sure do some good tricks tho... just wonderin... gleeb and twinkles, Ra From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 21:01:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26795; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:01:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:01:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01ad01bf2271$13e9c700$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: Subject: Boston area loopers? Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:52:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AA_01BF224F.8C843AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"AW6-F3.0.886.w7a6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01BF224F.8C843AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that everyone else is doing it... anyone here live in or around Boston?? =20 Peter ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01BF224F.8C843AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now that everyone else is doing = it...
 
anyone here live in or around = Boston?? =20
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01BF224F.8C843AA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 21:49:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04501; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:49:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:49:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: alex@cliff.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00f401bf2239$776aee40$5a05020a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:02 -0700 To: From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Resent-Message-ID: <"llSc02.0.sD.dga6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:14 AM -0700 10/29/99, Ken Melms wrote: >How did you solve the latency issue?>What OS? What >hardware? If you read the fine print I was careful to say I only dealt with latency in a looping situation, which is a special circumstance. What I meant was, if the computer is only used to output the loop, not any "dry" signal, then my scheme works. If you also want to replace a bunch of stomp boxes and reverbs with software, I agree you are stuck with a fixed minimum delay (the latency) that cannot be turned off. (Although a good fast computer plus a sound card with very small buffers can bring this down to just a few milliseconds.) The idea is pretty simple but seems to be a little hard to believe. Several people said it wouldn't work, and I still doubt it sometimes even after demonstrating it to 40 people. Let's say you want a 10.000 second loop and your computer's total latency (from audio input through the OS, through your application, and back down out to the audio output) is 0.2 seconds-- enough to throw off even a viola player or an accordionist or a guitarist or whatever (duck!). You set up a 10 second delay line, with two delay taps-- one at 10.000 seconds and one at 9.800 seconds. The 10 second tap is used for feedback or regeneration, which happens inside the software every sample so there is no latency problem there. The 9.8 second tap is what you listen to. If you play along in perfect sync with what you hear, it ends up back inside the computer in sync with the 10.0 s internal feedback tap. Note that even though you are technically listening to a 9.8 s tap the delay that you hear, and the total loop length, is exactly 10.0 s. In this scheme the computer's internal sense of "now" is still slightly off from the outside world, but it is nonetheless possible to overdub in perfect sync (barring musicianship like mine, of course!). If this discrepancy bothers you, perhaps for existential reasons, I can't help. But I wouldn't be surprised if our mind-body connections work in a similar manner when we're keeping time anyway. In any case, for me the concept of multiple nows fits right in with my interest in altering time perception through music. Anyway, I worked this out when I had a system with over 300 msec latency, and it took care of that nicely. I am currently using a MOTU 2408 card in a 400Mhz blue-and-white G3 Mac. The latency with this setup is under 6 milliseconds end-to-end, which is less time than it takes for the sound from my speakers to reach my ear. So I'm not sure if it is still worth the trouble, unless you want to get into compensating for the air too. These newer systems make me hopeful that I can eventually get rid of the outboard compressors, distortion, etc. too. -Alex S. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 21:52:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05351; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:52:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:52:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029213308.007a7100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:33:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Boston area loopers? In-Reply-To: <01ad01bf2271$13e9c700$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"88Lf71.0.PI.xia6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm glad someone asked about the Northeast; I'm in seacoast New Hampshire, about an hour and a half north of Boston... Anyone else up here? You don't have to be near San Francisco to be a thirsty, sociable looper! You might be interested in David Kirkdorffer's Boston Loopers' Collective. I think he said they'll be downstairs at the Middle East in Cambridge, MA on Monday , Nov. 8th. (Is that correct, David?) The last one was great! Tim At 08:52 PM 10/29/99 -0400, you wrote: > Now that everyone else is doing it... (more html text that Eudora seems to have rejected...) > Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 21:54:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05835; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:54:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:54:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991030013705.70408.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: SoundRaider Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:37:05 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"IGjTC.0.nU.pla6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I really like how you can change the feel of SoundRaider by changing which >WAV >files it uses. For example - If you use a bunch of didjeridu, singing >bowl, and >birdcall WAV files you get one feel. If you use a bunch of Beatle songs >you get >a completely different feel. > >Dennis Leas Is there a way to direct that without copying the whole program into different folders? I want to change my funk! Mr. Tough A Subsidiary of CorpCom Enterprises Branch Management Division ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 21:55:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06234; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:55:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:55:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991029214359.007ac210@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:43:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: controllers In-Reply-To: <0.c616b07a.254b99bd@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kBYa91.0.x-.-ta6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com got one but haven't figured out how i want to incorporate it into my set-up (or if i even need to!). how'd you use it? m At 08:45 PM 10/29/99 EDT, you wrote: >uhm... just curious, but isn't anyone using a Lexicon MRC as a controller?... >I had one for a little while and it sat nicely on top of my rack doing a >great job... just found I had to use my fingers too much for other things >and couldn't spare them for the slider thingies... they could sure do some >good tricks tho... >just wonderin... > >gleeb and twinkles, >Ra > ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 22:48:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17343; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:48:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:48:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991029222548.0091d880@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:25:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: So THAT's what happened to ZIPI... In-Reply-To: <381A285C.85C8ABCF@bellsouth.net> References: <199910292153.RAA11053@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2g_w82.0.oF3.QWb6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I remember Gibson at one time was in cahoots with UC Berkeley's CNMAT and Zeta working on ZIPI, a network-based protocol that would supplant MIDI as a control standard. Instead of MIDI's 32 or so KHz bandwidth, you have bandwidth at least equivalent to Ethernet (which is much, much higher). And since its network based, you can connect a bunch of devices into an Ethernet-like LAN without the mess of lots of MIDI in and out cables. I also remember hearing that ZIPI was dead in the water. Now, I hear Gibson announcing something called GMICS (http://www.gmics.org/) The idea of using it as a replacement for MIDI is downplayed. It's being pushed more as a digital audio networking solution. Will GMICS make it? Or is it doomed? Find out next year, same time, same Bat-channel... Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 22:52:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18419; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:52:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:52:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <018401bf2280$1f2c04c0$2796adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Symetrix 606 first impressions Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:40:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"CcF4W2.0.ZT3.-Zb6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com posted to the list- a number of people asking about this -----Original Message----- From: Mark Landman To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: hideo@concentric.net Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: Symetrix 606 >Tom Lambrecht said: > >>BTW ON TOPIC--beware the Symetrix 606 dual mod delay--last nite I almost >>didn't make it back out ;) > >Thank Gawd! > >So tell us a little about this machine, I remember being enthused with the >feature set and price point of the machine, until I read about the user >interface... it's no clunkier than any other punch and menu scroll machine which is to say most of the really fun pieces with less than 12 knobs, slider and switches made since 1986 > >Compared to other units, just how usable is it? much quieter than the Korg SDDs tho' mine has an annoying little hum in one channel that persists EVEN after the unit is turned off and unplugged (any ideas guys) >What features set it apart >from the Vortex or the Korg AM-8000 no experience with the Korg DL or AM (which I was also considering - but this came along first) though it sounds similar .description-wise. . it is similar to the Vortex in having prestructured delay modules that you can rearrange and tweak--look at the flowchart and parameter list on the Symetrix web site to see how tweakable it is--also up to 2.74 seconds on each delay line http://www.symetrixaudio.com/flowcharts/606-flow.pdf http://www.symetrixaudio.com/pdffiles/606chart.pdf (Acrobat files BTW) >yeah - i was going to ask about that since you mentioned it in the >rack >posting. How's it compare to the vortex? Or to word another way - >keeping the vortex? >sean I doubt I'll ever willingly part with my Vortex--the modules are to my untutored mind, fairly unique and difficult to emulate with other gear I own I'll try and post more after I have more quality time with it, but first impressions are very favorable--even with the little hum glitch on mine > >best- > >Mark (desperately trying to avoid more mail on strings and picking technique) drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 22:58:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19624; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:58:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:58:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <019c01bf2282$0cee4d20$2796adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: MIDI delay Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:54:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"uDxBm2.0.V64.wmb6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this was a recent thread of interest to some spotted on Harmony--NOT MINE--DO NOT E-ME (address below) Yamaha MEP4 Midi Controller for $95.00 Asking Price: US$95 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Yamaha MEP4 Midi Controller for $95.00 plus shipping Yamaha MEP4 Midi Controller with SNAP MEP4 Companion Software for $95.00 plus shipping The MEP-4 is a Midi Event Processor, accepting incoming midi data and modifying it to the midi outputs. Four micro processors are included, allowing very flexible midi operation. Examples of use would be: split a single keyboard in four ways, independently transposed, midi echo, on a different note and sound, connect a drum machine to the MEP4 and play the kick drum with your sustain pedal, accent only strongly played notes with another tone generator, set aftertouch to send pitch bend messages, etc. up to 60 patches can be programmed - even a 9 character name can be assigned data presetter functions for patch change of connected instruments at once channel filtering message filter, data modifier (as in examples above + much more) delay processor (echo from 0 - 3000 ms, more) output assigner 1 midi in/4 outs + 1 thru 16 character backlit LCD, more. Seller: Jason Biggs, E-mail: jaaag@apci.net (Profile) Location: MARYVILLE, IL Post Date: 10/28/99 Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 23:15:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22927; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:15:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:15:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:57:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffery Hildebrand X-Sender: jscotth@runner.ucdavis.edu To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: keyboards and sequencers... question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Ec3gM1.0.Bn4.7xb6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i'm hoping to buy a keyboard in the near future, and i really like the triton so far. i'm just wondering if it would be more practical to just get a controller instead because i already have cubase and a ton of other computer based sequencers. would it be a waste of money to get a triton anyways? scott From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 23:33:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26237; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:33:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:33:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381A65C8.DF4F9585@hcis.net> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:28:10 -0500 From: James Devillez Reply-To: groundfloor@hcis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ubject: Re: unsubscribe References: <199910291922.PAA09719@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dreck.0.n86.ZMc6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > Jane, get me off this crazy thing! > > Please unsubscribe me from this list. > > Sincerely, > @aol.com well.well,well sinc,sinc.since mentioned it in unison, perhaps there is more fun than realized.......for myself, having kept entertained for many years withr The EDP.(and a lurker of knowledge). i am ready to reentry another facet of realities with the extended Jamman i havn't turned on in 6 years __o so....welll. with this stereo guitar , let's see what happens! any others out there with stereo guitars, I promise i won't talk about strings, BUT thanks for the insight! james..hey, and I'm interested in 'filters' or throwing of sounds around.. and to hear something i havn't.. is not that just one of the reasons we listening to ourselves, so as to better that which we are? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Oct 29 23:34:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26807; Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:34:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:34:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:13:10 -0700 Message-ID: <002301bf2284$b1d02960$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991029190351.00916b10@pop-server> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"Drl382.0.u36.FJc6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I would like to request of those loopers who are knowledgeable of VCR and VCR recording for audio purposes -- loop audio of course -- to review the specs on this digital VCR that I've come to know about. I've copied the specs on a page in my website: http://www.gnominus.org/toss/digital_VCR.html I don't know what makes a VCR digital, does that mean it records digitally? It seems this thing, if it records digitally, would turn out to be one hell of a mixing deck, no? ...for the price, I mean. I'm getting what looks like a good deal for this at http://shop.theglobe.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 00:22:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA04612; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:22:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:22:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991030035229.01976b04@pop> X-Sender: kflint@pop X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:52:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes Resent-Message-ID: <"jP7321.0.QP7.Ulc6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:13 PM 10/29/99 -0700, Javier Miranda V. wrote: >I would like to request of those loopers who are knowledgeable of VCR and >VCR recording for audio purposes -- loop audio of course -- to review the >specs on this digital VCR that I've come to know about. I've copied the >specs on a page in my website: > >http://www.gnominus.org/toss/digital_VCR.html > >I don't know what makes a VCR digital, does that mean it records digitally? >It seems this thing, if it records digitally, would turn out to be one hell >of a mixing deck, no? ...for the price, I mean. I'm getting what looks like >a good deal for this at http://shop.theglobe.com. hey, shameless plug for my buddies in ATI's video software team, creators of a Digital VCR that runs on your PC: ATI Announces ATI-Video Wonder(TM) Add-In Board for Frame-Accurate Video Editing, Time-Shifting, Turning the PC Into A Digital VCR http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990830/ati_video__1.html Not sure how you'd use it for looping, but you're all a creative lot, I'm sure you'll figure something out. go nuts... kim ___________________________________________________________ Kim Flint 408-845-6383 Manager, System Engineering kflint@ati.com ATI Research, Inc. http://www.ati.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 01:59:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25245; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:59:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:59:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19991030054024.00735d2c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:40:24 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Live Gig Rig Logistics Resent-Message-ID: <"UOMpM2.0.2K5.hJe6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com uhm... interesting... are you running your own software? ciao leo At 18.30 29/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >At 11:14 AM -0700 10/29/99, Ken Melms wrote: >>How did you solve the latency issue?>What OS? What >>hardware? > >If you read the fine print I was careful to say I only dealt with latency >in a looping situation, which is a special circumstance. >What I meant was, if the computer is only used to output the loop, not any >"dry" signal, then my scheme works. If you also want to replace a bunch of >stomp boxes and reverbs with software, I agree you are stuck with a fixed >minimum delay (the latency) that cannot be turned off. (Although a good >fast computer plus a sound card with very small buffers can bring this down >to just a few milliseconds.) > >The idea is pretty simple but seems to be a little hard to believe. Several >people said it wouldn't work, and I still doubt it sometimes even after >demonstrating it to 40 people. Let's say you want a 10.000 second loop and >your computer's total latency (from audio input through the OS, through >your application, and back down out to the audio output) is 0.2 seconds-- >enough to throw off even a viola player or an accordionist or a guitarist >or whatever (duck!). You set up a 10 second delay line, with two delay >taps-- one at 10.000 seconds and one at 9.800 seconds. The 10 second tap is >used for feedback or regeneration, which happens inside the software every >sample so there is no latency problem there. The 9.8 second tap is what you >listen to. If you play along in perfect sync with what you hear, it ends up >back inside the computer in sync with the 10.0 s internal feedback tap. >Note that even though you are technically listening to a 9.8 s tap the >delay that you hear, and the total loop length, is exactly 10.0 s. > >In this scheme the computer's internal sense of "now" is still slightly off >from the outside world, but it is nonetheless possible to overdub in >perfect sync (barring musicianship like mine, of course!). If this >discrepancy bothers you, perhaps for existential reasons, I can't help. But >I wouldn't be surprised if our mind-body connections work in a similar >manner when we're keeping time anyway. In any case, for me the concept of >multiple nows fits right in with my interest in altering time perception >through music. > >Anyway, I worked this out when I had a system with over 300 msec latency, >and it took care of that nicely. I am currently using a MOTU 2408 card in a >400Mhz blue-and-white G3 Mac. The latency with this setup is under 6 >milliseconds end-to-end, which is less time than it takes for the sound >from my speakers to reach my ear. So I'm not sure if it is still worth the >trouble, unless you want to get into compensating for the air too. These >newer systems make me hopeful that I can eventually get rid of the outboard >compressors, distortion, etc. too. > >-Alex S. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 01:59:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25279; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:59:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:59:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007201bf229b$6eb7d580$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce YourselftoaMailingList) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:55:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"8E_LF1.0.0w5.-Ve6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm in Charlotte, North Carolina... - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM Subject: Re: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce YourselftoaMailingList) >i'm in conyers, close to atlanta, lets jam! > >Christopher White wrote: > >> i am in atlanta... >> ---------- >> >From: "Future Perfect" >> >To: >> >Subject: RE: Get Over Yourself (or, How Not to Introduce Yourself toaMailingList) >> >Date: Fri, Oct 29, 1999, 4:04 AM >> > >> >> > Well, Paolo, I'm afaid you and I are *it* for this area. Any other *Tampa >> >Bay* area loopers out there? Florida for that matter?? The southeast US??? >> > >> >Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices >> >http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave >> > >> >'Future Perfect' - art music >> >http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> I'm in the Bay Area... the Tampa Bay Area, that is. Yes, this is how >> >> people in this part of Florida refer to the Tampa/St. >> >> Petersburg/Clearwater/etc. section of the state. >> >> >> >> I take it this is not what you guys are talking about, but I'm just >> >> checking anyway. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Paolo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 02:19:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA28971; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:19:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:19:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007701bf229c$25cb8280$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: "Tom Lambrecht" , Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:01:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"pBonv2.0.qA6.nae6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Me? Testy? :) After a while the incompetence reaches a level where Natural Law almost demands a nasty rejoinder. It's like strolling through lion country wearing a meatloaf jacket and a steak tie... ...you're gonna get bitten. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lambrecht To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe >not so sure--it's just that geo-magnetic anomaly in conjunctionwith the full >moon that is corrupting newsgroup chats everywhere > >I mean, Larry T. is even being testy . . . SO unlike him ;) > >and as far as our other unwilling participant, "removeme it's not what i >thunk it was lots doubles and junk" ranks right up there with the upper >case Neanderthal posts as far as pure enntertainment > >like the Visa commercial sez' . . . "priceless" > >Tom Lambrecht >hideo@concentric.net >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Biffle >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com ; >zebu@mindspring.com >Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:07 PM >Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > >>My paranoid twin want me to believe that the guy who flamed Kim has >>returned with another "throw away" address and name and is now >>tormenting us for being meanies... >> >>And from the look of Nitesh Pratel's only post with a subject other >>than "suscrabp" He'll be selling pirated samples and forming a looping >>supergroup with Paolo and Jim down in Tampa... >> >>Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >>mbiffle@svg.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 02:20:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29123; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:20:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:20:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991030061825.25526.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 23:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"65O5J1.0.Bx6.1se6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No hands on experience, but I've read a little about using VCRs as mixdown decks. The main thing that comes to mind is that it needs to be a "HiFi" VCR. This will allow you to record & play in stereo. The VCR you mention appears to be mono. I also seem to recall audio compression issues depending on the particular brand of VCR. This concludes any possible contribution on my part to this thread, as I excell at knowing a little about a lot. I would like to know what you have in mind as far as looping goes. John --- Kim Flint wrote: > At 08:13 PM 10/29/99 -0700, Javier Miranda V. wrote: > >I would like to request of those loopers who are > knowledgeable of VCR and > >VCR recording for audio purposes -- loop audio of > course -- to review the > >specs on this digital VCR that I've come to know > about. I've copied the > >specs on a page in my website: > > > >http://www.gnominus.org/toss/digital_VCR.html > > > >I don't know what makes a VCR digital, does that > mean it records digitally? > >It seems this thing, if it records digitally, would > turn out to be one hell > >of a mixing deck, no? ...for the price, I mean. > I'm getting what looks like > >a good deal for this at http://shop.theglobe.com. > > hey, shameless plug for my buddies in ATI's video > software team, creators of > a Digital VCR that runs on your PC: > > ATI Announces ATI-Video Wonder(TM) Add-In Board for > Frame-Accurate Video Editing, Time-Shifting, Turning > the PC > Into A Digital VCR > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/990830/ati_video__1.html > > Not sure how you'd use it for looping, but you're > all a creative lot, I'm > sure you'll figure something out. go nuts... > > kim > ___________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint > 408-845-6383 > Manager, System Engineering > kflint@ati.com > ATI Research, Inc. > http://www.ati.com > > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 02:22:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29565; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:22:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:22:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009f01bf229d$b6c580f0$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:12:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"WvbsQ3.0.1g6.Ile6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Before affordable digital workstations came along, folks were using their CD-Quality Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as direct two-track recorders, utilizing just the audio tracks. I imagine the specs are even better today. But since I can't even program the damn clock, fat chance I'd use mine as a looper. :) - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Javier Miranda V. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 11:35 PM Subject: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes >I would like to request of those loopers who are knowledgeable of VCR and >VCR recording for audio purposes -- loop audio of course -- to review the >specs on this digital VCR that I've come to know about. I've copied the >specs on a page in my website: > >http://www.gnominus.org/toss/digital_VCR.html > >I don't know what makes a VCR digital, does that mean it records digitally? >It seems this thing, if it records digitally, would turn out to be one hell >of a mixing deck, no? ...for the price, I mean. I'm getting what looks like >a good deal for this at http://shop.theglobe.com. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 02:23:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30126; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:23:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:23:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008201bf229c$b788ed70$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: picking question????? Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:05:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"o-Zd-1.0.SN6.bee6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Okay, I'll bite. > So will I. > I had to abandoned the speed co-efficient awhile ago. I wasn't go to > be John Mclauglin, or any of those great African guitarists out of Zaire. For those who want to know how to improve yer pickin' chops, here's a secret: banjo flat-picking. That's all I'm gonna say on the subject. And if you don't beleive me, just ask Roy Clark. - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 03:01:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA03723; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 03:01:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 03:01:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005b01bf22a3$b91d9300$8c72d6d1@micronjenni> From: "Jenni Leeds" To: , References: <199910300638.CAA32231@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #425 Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:55:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"7Wb583.0.PT.RJf6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Keep the whele=s keep on spinneint gkepal eae;;r myfr i gdge is making th emost wonderrfule sound behind me . .. and the list sight tha t is going arounds make me whurly and a bit under the shade of a sunny web page day at Loopers Delight, My Echoplex was broken and I was in dire need of assistance when low and behold Kim comes mailing in with a forward that gets me to a Gibson employee who will fix it for free. Then all of a sudden it was fixed. Oh my god. I love Halloween. !!!! Happy Halloween Looper's:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jamie Mash {Experimental Music Director wmts 88.3} From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 03:33:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09092; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 03:33:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 03:33:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:17:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bf22a6$ddad4960$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <009f01bf229d$b6c580f0$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"1JGwx.0.Nk1.Lmf6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, I don't mean to use it as a looping device, but as a place to record "live" looping, from which to take parts for further work, etc., remix, sampling, Acidising, etc., which requires a lot more quality than a common cassette recorder. I wanted to know if that digital VCR would be of better quality than the trusty old Hi-Fi VCRs. | Before affordable digital workstations came along, folks | were using their CD-Quality Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as direct | two-track recorders, utilizing just the audio tracks. | | I imagine the specs are even better today. But since I can't | even program the damn clock, fat chance I'd use mine as a looper. :) | | - Larry | | >I would like to request of those loopers who are knowledgeable | of VCR and | >VCR recording for audio purposes -- loop audio of course -- to | review the | >specs on this digital VCR that I've come to know about. I've | copied the | >specs on a page in my website: | > | >http://www.gnominus.org/toss/digital_VCR.html | > | >I don't know what makes a VCR digital, does that mean it | records digitally? | >It seems this thing, if it records digitally, would turn out | to be one hell | >of a mixing deck, no? ...for the price, I mean. I'm getting what looks | like | >a good deal for this at http://shop.theglobe.com. | > | > | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 05:07:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA24769; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:07:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:07:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991030090514.11725.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:05:14 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"cuphy3.0.-a5.-Ah6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have you ever noticed that when ever someone does post the unsubscribe instructions, it is almost always followed by even more unsubscribe messages to the list? There should be some clinical term for this reflex. Personally, I think it's Kim, loaded on Cutty Sark, and pissed. :) John...just south of Atlanta, still north of Hell. --- L Tremblay wrote: > Me? Testy? :) > > After a while the incompetence reaches a level where > Natural Law > almost demands a nasty rejoinder. It's like > strolling through > lion country wearing a meatloaf jacket and a steak > tie... > > ...you're gonna get bitten. > > - Larry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Lambrecht > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe > > > >not so sure--it's just that geo-magnetic anomaly in > conjunctionwith the > full > >moon that is corrupting newsgroup chats everywhere > > > >I mean, Larry T. is even being testy . . . SO > unlike him ;) > > > >and as far as our other unwilling participant, > "removeme it's not what i > >thunk it was lots doubles and junk" ranks right up > there with the upper > >case Neanderthal posts as far as pure > enntertainment > > > >like the Visa commercial sez' . . . "priceless" > > > >Tom Lambrecht > >hideo@concentric.net > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Mike Biffle > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > ; > >zebu@mindspring.com > >Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 5:07 PM > >Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > > > > >>My paranoid twin want me to believe that the guy > who flamed Kim has > >>returned with another "throw away" address and > name and is now > >>tormenting us for being meanies... > >> > >>And from the look of Nitesh Pratel's only post > with a subject other > >>than "suscrabp" He'll be selling pirated samples > and forming a looping > >>supergroup with Paolo and Jim down in Tampa... > >> > >>Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the > usual distractions..." > >>mbiffle@svg.com > >> > >> > > > > > > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 05:46:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA31744; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:46:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 05:46:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 02:28:06 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: OT unsubscribe In-reply-to: <19991030090514.11725.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Ni3YN2.0.V_6.Lgh6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Personally, I think it's Kim, loaded on Cutty Sark, >and pissed. :) > Cutty Sark? never. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 07:29:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16783; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:29:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 07:29:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381ACECA.BCB00872@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:56:10 +0100 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Gods and loops References: <199910300623.CAA30100@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0ZGx6.0.ve2.Lvi6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Alex, You are a God. Tried it with Audiomulch and it works a treat. All my stuff is loop based so I can use your method in ay work . All I need is a laptop now and away to go rather than dragging my desktop around, (actually it's the monitor that's the pain in the arse). Thanks again. While I'm posting, I'm doing a loop based gig tonight at the Cardiff Chambers in Cardiff bay, Wales. It's quite a cool setup. Me and this guy Neil are playing in the atrium of this building with art galleries on all sides, (sculptures, video art, 2d etc) - surrounded by art and plants, great. I play my modified slide guitar with violin bow etc and Neil has this really unstable moog. My stuff as I said is all looping and he provides noises off, (or on). Cheers, Gareth > If you read the fine print I was careful to say I only dealt with latency > in a looping situation, which is a special circumstance. > What I meant was, if the computer is only used to output the loop, not any > "dry" signal, then my scheme works. If you also want to replace a bunch of > stomp boxes and reverbs with software, I agree you are stuck with a fixed > minimum delay (the latency) that cannot be turned off. (Although a good > fast computer plus a sound card with very small buffers can bring this down > to just a few milliseconds.) > > The idea is pretty simple but seems to be a little hard to believe. Several > people said it wouldn't work, and I still doubt it sometimes even after > demonstrating it to 40 people. Let's say you want a 10.000 second loop and > your computer's total latency (from audio input through the OS, through > your application, and back down out to the audio output) is 0.2 seconds-- > enough to throw off even a viola player or an accordionist or a guitarist > or whatever (duck!). You set up a 10 second delay line, with two delay > taps-- one at 10.000 seconds and one at 9.800 seconds. The 10 second tap is > used for feedback or regeneration, which happens inside the software every > sample so there is no latency problem there. The 9.8 second tap is what you > listen to. If you play along in perfect sync with what you hear, it ends up > back inside the computer in sync with the 10.0 s internal feedback tap. > Note that even though you are technically listening to a 9.8 s tap the > delay that you hear, and the total loop length, is exactly 10.0 s. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 08:44:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA29753; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:44:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:44:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001601bf22d5$5536dae0$5d964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:50:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"0MX0t.0.y37.HUk6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hear, hear, Dave! I recently attended a show by a well-known looping artist. I was very interested in hearing what this performer could do, having heard the person's name and reputation but never having heard the music. This performer's stage demeanor was so hideous, obnoxious and blatantly condescending to the audience (who were extremely polite and attentive) as to be inexcusable. My immediate thought was: "No wonder this person uses all these looping devices . . . they'd never be able to get along with any other musicians!" I spoke afterwards with other audience members who echoed [:-)] similar sentiments. I guess the pathologically grumpy should be grateful for looping technology. James Pokorny -----Original Message----- From: postaldave To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribe >is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why people >loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they are >forced to play by themselfs? > >who knows.................doing an all night jam........by >myself...................your not invited.lol > >postaldave@qx.net > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 08:45:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA29881; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:45:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:45:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991030083138.007aba00@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 08:31:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes In-Reply-To: <000101bf22a6$ddad4960$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> References: <009f01bf229d$b6c580f0$5a4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2Gxta1.0.Dh6.GMk6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use MiniDisc for the same purpose... Probably cheaper, and then there's also the seamless looping ability when you use the Repeat 1 function. (Not live looping, but it's a lot of fun to use to feed prepared loops back into a "real" looper live.) There's been a lot of talk about less-than-ideal compression issues on both of these devices. Anyone know how the specs compare? Also, several months back we had a thread about video looping. I wonder how a digital VCR would work in this area... Tim At 12:17 AM 10/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >Well, I don't mean to use it as a looping device, but as a place to record >"live" looping, from which to take parts for further work, etc., remix, >sampling, Acidising, etc., which requires a lot more quality than a common >cassette recorder. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 14:49:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23715; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:49:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:49:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381B3CB9.37A51A3B@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:45:13 -0700 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers References: <001601bf22d5$5536dae0$5d964e0c@u73x0> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Ip_X41.0.vW5.gop6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I do think there is something to this notion that some loopers get to exercise control freak tendencies without having to deal with "my lame drummer who can't keep a straight beat", or any of the other fallible human types. Looping pleasure can be like the pleasure one gets from hearing one's own voice. Which leads to another notion and reminds me of my favorite quote, from the Sherlock Holmes story "The Valley of Fear": "Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but talent instantly recognizes genius." I think musical collaboration is a remedy to individual mediocrity. Now, collaboration can still produce mediocre music, but I'll go out on a limb and say not as mediocre as the average "solo effort." This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" magazines would do on his "instrument." Jim p.s. If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. :-)! James Pokorny wrote: > > Hear, hear, Dave! > > I recently attended a show by a well-known looping artist. I was very > interested in hearing what this performer could do, having heard the > person's name and reputation but never having heard the music. This > performer's stage demeanor was so hideous, obnoxious and blatantly > condescending to the audience (who were extremely polite and attentive) as > to be inexcusable. My immediate thought was: "No wonder this person uses > all these looping devices . . . they'd never be able to get along with any > other musicians!" I spoke afterwards with other audience members who echoed > [:-)] similar sentiments. I guess the pathologically grumpy should be > grateful for looping technology. > > James Pokorny > -----Original Message----- > From: postaldave > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM > Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > >is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why people > >loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they are > >forced to play by themselfs? > > > >who knows.................doing an all night jam........by > >myself...................your not invited.lol > > > >postaldave@qx.net > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 14:49:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23721; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:49:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:49:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB196D0C80B@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: adaaxs@erols.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: re 301 tape Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:44:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"OcHrR3.0.NV5.fnp6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Talk about a well-timed post. Thanks, my 301's tape could very well be flaking into tiny non-discript bits. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: J.G. Wong [SMTP:adaaxs@erols.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:40 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: re 301 tape > > I use an 11-13 foot loop of Ampex (Quantegy) mastering tape. When > possible I use answering machine mylar splices to cut down on the edit > wow. They haven't made OEM (Roland) loops for so long that I would be > very careful where I got them because they would have had to have been > stored very carefully. > > Gino Wong From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 14:50:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23809; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:50:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:50:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381B4C68.A60C881D@cdm.sfai.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:52:09 -0800 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Organization: San Francisco Art Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looping Laurie Anderson References: <018401bf2280$1f2c04c0$2796adce@satellite> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Resent-Message-ID: <"2Dq9M3.0.Bj5.fqp6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw Laurie Anderson last night at Berkeley's Zellerbach Auditorium. Over all, a good show, but nothing really musically or technologically cutting edge, as she was during the 80's. And so the world catches up. Over all entertaining. She played with a bass player (Skuli Sverrisson) and pre recorded/sequenced accompaniment, and there were definitely times when Skuli Sverrisson was looping. All gear (except a foot controller that I couldn't make out) was hidden from view. I know we've been through this before, but with a role model like Laurie, why do we find so few women interested in working with new tools (such as loopers) in Music? Are there still women on this list? There were some time back, but I left the list for a while and have seemingly come back to a "boys" club. Bizarrely enough, I always thought that our beloved loop leader Kim was a woman, until I met him. When you assume... and so the web degenders us. But still the question as to why most women (I've met) seem to avoid music that's off the "beaten trail." The women that I do know that are interested in new modes of aural expression, seem to be as in the dark as myself. Perhaps I only wonder this, as my date drifted into deep sleep during the performance. Ha! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 15:49:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02499; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:49:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:49:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <0.783c976f.254ca4b2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:44:50 EDT Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"YlfXq1.0.vO.hhq6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A highly personal thought re this thread: Music involves both sides of the brain for me. The right side, intuitive, emotional, involving my body... when I get into that side of myself, music comes and visits, ideas come easily... I have recordings of things, and tunes I've written, where I have no idea afterwards what happened, how I played what I did, why I chose that chord, etc. The left side, intellectual, formal... I often use that side to clean up and organize the stuff I made from the right side. This is often the side that deals with technology. My 'heart' or 'soul' often has problems dealing with Insert modes, MIDI, milliseconds, etc., or even such basic things as intonation. Not being female, I can't address why women do what they do, or not do, but I believe both sexes have both sides of the brain, and choose how they live in each. (Of course, how they address this is what makes us the sexes we are...) When I get too emotional, I can't easily think about all these knobs and crap... and I usually end up playing acoustically! The real key to working with tools (i.e. technology) is to learn to address them from both hemispheres, or to balance myself so that I can address both of them inside myself at once. (And most therapists don't have a clue on how to approach this, either...) Think about it another way: Laurie is/was technologically far ahead of the curve. But she does not embody many of the traits that our culture regards as feminine. And she has done some gender-bending in her work as well (I am thinking first of the instances when she has harmonized her voice down to a masculine pitch...). Here lies a problem we all keep answering in one way or another -- the one of using technology to reach a place where technology does not live- a place inside us as listeners. This is the place music wants to go anyway... The most basic primordial original expression needs no EDP, that's for sure. At the other extreme, using all the technology we can can easily lead to overload, tabula-rasa-block (that sense of paralysis that comes from not being able to choose from too many possibilities), or the utterly soulless expression, which is rampant. So how do we account for it? Your mileage may vary... I welcome everyone's thoughts on this... even if you think me full of shite... Kevin Brunkhorst http://members .aol.com/kb305/kb305/ Red Road the band http://r edroad.iuma.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 15:51:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02789; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:51:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:51:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004901bf230f$d673fb30$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Advice on digital VCR for loop purposes Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:49:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"H0TVk.0.hQ.Bjq6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Well, I don't mean to use it as a looping device, but as a place to record >"live" looping, from which to take parts for further work, etc., remix, >sampling, Acidising, etc., which requires a lot more quality than a common >cassette recorder. > >I wanted to know if that digital VCR would be of better quality than the >trusty old Hi-Fi VCRs. > My guess is that the digital audio on the new VCRs are of the same quality as DAT. For what it's worth, I would venture that the older HiFi deck are warmer sounding, but I prefer analog over digital anyway. Differents strokes... - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:12:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07506; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:12:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:12:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991030155751.007ccaa0@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:57:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson In-Reply-To: <0.783c976f.254ca4b2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"E_xxA2.0.4D1.Nvq6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I once watched a concert by a woman from Mills College. She had a velvet glove that she wired up herself. It had sensors for each of her fingers. It could also sense the distance from another sensor in her belt buckle and yet another sensor attached to one of her shoes. This glove was driving a gigantic Max patch on her Powerbook which in turn was driving a couple of samplers and a synth. She said she built her velvet glove controller because she wanted a more feminine alternative to the videogame Powergloves (I think by Mattel) that other experimental musicians were using. She would perform by making motions with her gloved hand while reciting poetry or prose. I don't know why I didn't ask her when I had the chance her thoughts on the male-female ratio in the avant garde music scene. Then again, women were always in the minority in all the engineering classes I took in college. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:13:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07629; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:13:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:13:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: SF Bay area loopers (group looping?) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:03:04 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bf2311$c6f626e0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <381B4C68.A60C881D@cdm.sfai.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <"b0ste1.0.VT1.I-q6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As opposed to lonesome looping, and related to the thought of getting as many San Francisco Bay-area loopers together as they wish, I had the idea of setting up some instruments -- couple of guitars, keyboards, etc. -- in some place somewhere where everybody can jump in and add a riff or two to a loop, taking turns, thereby producing loops in the context of several individuals' creativity. I thought that this, together with beer gushing and other related drinking, would make up for some novel time. But it was just a thought. Who would think this could be accomplished? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:13:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07650; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:13:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:13:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001001bf2312$2c9c7da0$af924e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:05:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LMt532.0.L_.vsq6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >p.s. If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. >:-)! Dear JP: The artist to whom I was referring makes Mr. Fripp look warm, fuzzy, cozy and avuncular! :-} JP (ever notice how many loopers on this list have the same initials?) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:14:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08054; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:14:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:14:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:03:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bf2311$c5e998e0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <381B4C68.A60C881D@cdm.sfai.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <"sZR-r.0.7T1.G-q6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think this relates to what Jim Poppen said today about male masturbatory tendencies. Women tend to seek mutual satisfaction rather than their own, i.e., "You don't share your feelings," "But honey, we don't talk," etc. I would predict that women will get into looping only in the context of a group, where their looping interacts somehow with others. Come to think of it, I will post another thought separately. | -----Original Message----- | From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:mark@cdm.sfai.edu] | Sent: Saturday 30 October 1999 12:52 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Looping Laurie Anderson | | I know we've been through this before, but with a role model like | Laurie, why do we | find so few women interested in working with new tools (such as loopers) | in Music? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:13:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07513; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:13:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:13:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101bf2310$7c9a5040$456fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:53:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Qr-RA3.0.C11.dtq6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" magazines would do on his "instrument." i'm seeing a possible 12 step group starting. or at least the need for one.lol From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:37:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12891; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:37:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:37:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005a01bf2314$8c706f00$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:22:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"JFd-G.0.EN2.oCr6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Almost certainly there are many dickhead loopers who are so socially retarded that they should thank their Godhead for the tech-age we live in. But I certainly *do not* miss the days (late '70s/early '80s) when one's muse and performance schedule were often severely curtailed or limited by the idiosyncracies of irresponcible, uncommitted, clueless or simply unavailable drummers, guitarists, . Hence, the signal-to-noise ratio of many group situations tended toward the low-end of the scale. When affordable tape machines, drum machines, and signal processors appeared, the creative individual was free to innovate and experiment, unbounded by the whims & wishes of inconvenient outsiders and hired-hands (this applies to non-collaborators, which is a different thing altogether). It was a windfall to many creatives tilling the frontiers of music where other dared not tread. All these factors contributed and necessitated the era of the one-man band. Finally it's possiblities were open to everyone. And today, computers are having the same effect but at an exponential rate, especially given the Internet. But the Net is changing the dynamic in a profound way - rather than pushing the lone creatives to the margins, it has brought these kindred souls together in forums such as Loopers Delight, to share their hard-won knowledge, which might otherwise be gleaned in isolation. So instead of group situations formed either out of geographic accident or convenience, alliances can be forged out of communities of interest. Obviously, this is much more satisfying arrangement. - Larry - Larry -----Original Message----- From: James Pokorny To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 8:47 AM Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers >Hear, hear, Dave! > >I recently attended a show by a well-known looping artist. I was very >interested in hearing what this performer could do, having heard the >person's name and reputation but never having heard the music. This >performer's stage demeanor was so hideous, obnoxious and blatantly >condescending to the audience (who were extremely polite and attentive) as >to be inexcusable. My immediate thought was: "No wonder this person uses >all these looping devices . . . they'd never be able to get along with any >other musicians!" I spoke afterwards with other audience members who echoed >[:-)] similar sentiments. I guess the pathologically grumpy should be >grateful for looping technology. > >James Pokorny >-----Original Message----- >From: postaldave >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM >Subject: Re: unsubscribe > > >>is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why people >>loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they are >>forced to play by themselfs? >> >>who knows.................doing an all night jam........by >>myself...................your not invited.lol >> >>postaldave@qx.net >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:40:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13874; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:40:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:40:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007601bf2316$68f43230$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:36:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"BpFnl1.0.bx2.HPr6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Before aone else errs in their opinion of when the "little ladies" will finally get into looping, you might want to pick up a book or learn how to read. Pauline Oliveros created looping as we know it today. A women. (Gasp!) In 1966, at Mills College. Eno knew this, Terry Riley new this. Geesh. Larry -----Original Message----- From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson >I once watched a concert by a woman from Mills College. She had a velvet >glove that she wired up herself. It had sensors for each of her fingers. >It could also sense the distance from another sensor in her belt buckle and >yet another sensor attached to one of her shoes. This glove was driving a >gigantic Max patch on her Powerbook which in turn was driving a couple of >samplers and a synth. She said she built her velvet glove controller >because she wanted a more feminine alternative to the videogame Powergloves >(I think by Mattel) that other experimental musicians were using. She >would perform by making motions with her gloved hand while reciting poetry >or prose. > >I don't know why I didn't ask her when I had the chance her thoughts on the >male-female ratio in the avant garde music scene. Then again, women were >always in the minority in all the engineering classes I took in college. > >Paolo > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:40:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13841; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:40:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:40:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910302031.QAA24740@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:34:12 -0400 Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zV_PI.0.Rt2.FNr6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com u should tell us who it is as i do not want to spend my hard earned cash on assholes. ---------- regards c.white >From: "James Pokorny" >To: >Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers >Date: Sat, Oct 30, 1999, 4:05 PM > > >>p.s. If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. >>:-)! > > >Dear JP: > >The artist to whom I was referring makes Mr. Fripp look warm, fuzzy, cozy >and avuncular! :-} > >JP (ever notice how many loopers on this list have the same initials?) > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 16:40:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13880; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:40:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:40:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006101bf2315$4c9cc0d0$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:28:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"zSR4t3.0.Fd2.rHr6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com By that that logic, Bach, Ludwig Van, Phillip Glass and a million other composers past and present are simply jerking off into the oblivion of mediocrity. Please... Do some actual thinking next time before you spout off unfounded generalizations like that. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Jim Poppen To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers >I do think there is something to this notion that some loopers get to >exercise control freak tendencies without having to deal with "my lame >drummer who can't keep a straight beat", or any of the other fallible >human types. Looping pleasure can be like the pleasure one gets from >hearing one's own voice. Which leads to another notion and reminds me of >my favorite quote, from the Sherlock Holmes story "The Valley of Fear": >"Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but talent instantly >recognizes genius." I think musical collaboration is a remedy to >individual mediocrity. Now, collaboration can still produce mediocre >music, but I'll go out on a limb and say not as mediocre as the average >"solo effort." > >This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his >guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" >magazines would do on his "instrument." > >Jim > >p.s. If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. >:-)! > >James Pokorny wrote: >> >> Hear, hear, Dave! >> >> I recently attended a show by a well-known looping artist. I was very >> interested in hearing what this performer could do, having heard the >> person's name and reputation but never having heard the music. This >> performer's stage demeanor was so hideous, obnoxious and blatantly >> condescending to the audience (who were extremely polite and attentive) as >> to be inexcusable. My immediate thought was: "No wonder this person uses >> all these looping devices . . . they'd never be able to get along with any >> other musicians!" I spoke afterwards with other audience members who echoed >> [:-)] similar sentiments. I guess the pathologically grumpy should be >> grateful for looping technology. >> >> James Pokorny >> -----Original Message----- >> From: postaldave >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM >> Subject: Re: unsubscribe >> >> >is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why people >> >loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they are >> >forced to play by themselfs? >> > >> >who knows.................doing an all night jam........by >> >myself...................your not invited.lol >> > >> >postaldave@qx.net >> > >> > >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 17:41:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24464; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:41:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:41:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991030172334.007ab2e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:23:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: grumpy loopers In-Reply-To: <381B3CB9.37A51A3B@mindspring.com> References: <001601bf22d5$5536dae0$5d964e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"gSvTk2.0.VI5.y8s6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cantankerous?! Us?! One of the things that makes me the grumpiest about playing with a group of musicians has absolutely nothing to do with the music. Once everyone has shown up, set up and gets playing it's fine, but as often as not there's the simple logistical problem that any project involving a number of people gets proportionately more impossible to schedule as the number of people involved increases, especially when the people have day jobs, lives, a distance to travel and/or attitudes. Concensus issues get easier with fewer players, too. Looping technology enables us to do more with fewer people, thereby increasing the odds of actually doing SOMETHING on any given occasion! On the other hand, there're fewer hands to carry stuff when playing out, but at least the vast sums of money taken in at the door don't have to be split in as many ways. (Admit it, how many of us thought of that right away when multi-member ska or swing bands started getting popular again?! A $68 Tuesday night door take divided by guitar, bass, drums, 2 saxes, 2 trumpets, a trombone, a piano player and a vocalist comes to a big $7.50 each before deducting gas money. If you bought two drinks of Glenlivet and a set of those wire things that many of us use on our instruments but don't talk about here, you're in the hole. A loopist and a drummer could split that 68 bucks in half and take home a hefty $34 each, riding in one vehicle! :-)) At 11:45 AM 10/30/99 -0700, Jim wrote: > I think musical collaboration is a remedy to >individual mediocrity. Yep, it sure can be, as long as everybody's listening to each other and respectful of each others' contribution. Otherwise it's the sum total of the individual mediocrity of everyone in the room. > >This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his >guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" >magazines would do on his "instrument." Who amongst us can truly claim otherwise! We even use "special" devices. ;-) > >If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. :-)! Apart from the artist-in-question's attitude, Mr. Pokorny never said how he otherwise enjoyed the performance... Nor did he reveal who the ornery looper was for that matter, but since you mention RF, I wanted to include a link to a response Fripp wrote to someone who was complaining about not being able to see him at a Fripp/Sylvian concert because of the "moody" lighting, but I couldn't find it. If anyone can locate it, it's hilarious; Fripp actually sent the guy a small check as a prorated refund with the condition that the whiner never again come to see him or listen to his recordings... Tim (Ernie Ball Hybrid Slinky, Rotosound Swing Bass and Dunlop nylon plectrum user, but let's not get started on that!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 17:43:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25207; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:43:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:43:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381B62B7.A19D7FA6@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 14:27:19 -0700 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers References: <006101bf2315$4c9cc0d0$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"E3eIv3.0.iS5.cAs6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Come on Larry, I said the "average "solo effort'". To use your expression, Geesh. Bach, Beethoven, Philip Glass (BTW, there's only one 'L' in Philip, Larry :-)), etc., did not develop their genius in a bubble. I am making the observation that much of the music I've heard from this new wave of solo performers is mediocre. Yes, including my music (grumble). Beware the creative vacuum! I think this is a sensitive subject for any "artist." Who wants to admit their "art" is masturbatory? (Perhaps "masturbatory" is an unfortunate expression for this thread. It does good job expressing the idea, though.) You are right on about the internet being a new and great tool for sharing the music and ideas of these "lone creatives." That's why I'm on this list. And why I think the critical scrutiny of others is crucial to the process of loop making or whatever. Jim L Tremblay wrote: > > By that that logic, Bach, Ludwig Van, Phillip Glass and a > million other composers past and present are simply jerking > off into the oblivion of mediocrity. > > Please... Do some actual thinking next time before you spout off > unfounded generalizations like that. > > - Larry > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Poppen > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers > > >I do think there is something to this notion that some loopers get to > >exercise control freak tendencies without having to deal with "my lame > >drummer who can't keep a straight beat", or any of the other fallible > >human types. Looping pleasure can be like the pleasure one gets from > >hearing one's own voice. Which leads to another notion and reminds me of > >my favorite quote, from the Sherlock Holmes story "The Valley of Fear": > >"Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but talent instantly > >recognizes genius." I think musical collaboration is a remedy to > >individual mediocrity. Now, collaboration can still produce mediocre > >music, but I'll go out on a limb and say not as mediocre as the average > >"solo effort." > > > >This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his > >guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" > >magazines would do on his "instrument." > > > >Jim > > > >p.s. If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. > >:-)! > > > >James Pokorny wrote: > >> > >> Hear, hear, Dave! > >> > >> I recently attended a show by a well-known looping artist. I was very > >> interested in hearing what this performer could do, having heard the > >> person's name and reputation but never having heard the music. This > >> performer's stage demeanor was so hideous, obnoxious and blatantly > >> condescending to the audience (who were extremely polite and attentive) > as > >> to be inexcusable. My immediate thought was: "No wonder this person > uses > >> all these looping devices . . . they'd never be able to get along with > any > >> other musicians!" I spoke afterwards with other audience members who > echoed > >> [:-)] similar sentiments. I guess the pathologically grumpy should be > >> grateful for looping technology. > >> > >> James Pokorny > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: postaldave > >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >> Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM > >> Subject: Re: unsubscribe > >> > >> >is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why > people > >> >loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they > are > >> >forced to play by themselfs? > >> > > >> >who knows.................doing an all night jam........by > >> >myself...................your not invited.lol > >> > > >> >postaldave@qx.net > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 18:20:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32631; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:20:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:20:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.22af9cae.254cc68c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:09:16 EDT Subject: Re: SF Bay area loopers (group looping?) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"8yWQC1.0.CS7.wos6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/30/99 6:13:30 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, gnominus@earthling.net writes: << Who would think this could be accomplished? >> i could do it........but you will all have to come to pittsburgh.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 18:20:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32642; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:20:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:20:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 15:16:46 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19991030155751.007ccaa0@pop-server> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <0.783c976f.254ca4b2@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"YvJNQ3.0.hk7.tvs6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:57 PM -0700 10/30/99, pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com wrote: >I once watched a concert by a woman from Mills College. She had a velvet >glove that she wired up herself. It had sensors for each of her fingers. >It could also sense the distance from another sensor in her belt buckle and >yet another sensor attached to one of her shoes. This glove was driving a >gigantic Max patch on her Powerbook which in turn was driving a couple of >samplers and a synth. She said she built her velvet glove controller >because she wanted a more feminine alternative to the videogame Powergloves >(I think by Mattel) that other experimental musicians were using. She >would perform by making motions with her gloved hand while reciting poetry >or prose. That would have been Laetitia Sonami. She uses the sensors from a Mattel Powerglove in her custom made glove, and there are some Max objects to support this. She's really cool, I have her email address if anyone wants to ask her about it. >I don't know why I didn't ask her when I had the chance her thoughts on the >male-female ratio in the avant garde music scene. Then again, women were >always in the minority in all the engineering classes I took in college. yet, some of the best engineers I've ever worked with were women. I've never noticed that my genitalia was of much use one way or the other in this field (same with music). Seems to be more of a cultural resistance, which I never really understood. Interestingly, other cultures seem to produce a lot more women engineers than the US. India, east asia, etc. Don't know if that's true for techno-music-geeks too. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 18:21:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32731; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:21:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:21:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00c201bf2324$0b9b86c0$12cf08cf@donaldpancoe> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: References: <000001bf2311$c5e998e0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:13:38 -0400 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"HgniT2.0.ut7.rws6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Javier Miranda V. wrote: > I think this relates to what Jim Poppen said today about male masturbatory > tendencies. Women tend to seek mutual satisfaction rather than their own, > i.e., "You don't share your feelings," "But honey, we don't talk," etc. I > would predict that women will get into looping only in the context of a > group, where their looping interacts somehow with others. I think your above theory might be borne out by the (relatively) recent popularity of womens' drum circles. Of course, there is the whole earth-mother-godess-provider thing (done in my best James Burke voice.) -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 18:51:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06391; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:51:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:51:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002201bf2328$2d4761a0$8f4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Gender and Electronic Music (was Looping Laurie...) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:43:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"YDbir1.0.T31.WGt6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You may want a woman's perspective on this: Gender and Electronic Music By Hannah Bosma http://cadre.sjsu.edu/switch/sound/articles/bosma-gend1.html I don't beleive orgasm is mentioned anywhere in the article as a determinant for involvement though. Sorry to disappoint. ;) - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Javier Miranda V. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:17 PM Subject: RE: Looping Laurie Anderson >I think this relates to what Jim Poppen said today about male masturbatory >tendencies. Women tend to seek mutual satisfaction rather than their own, >i.e., "You don't share your feelings," "But honey, we don't talk," etc. I >would predict that women will get into looping only in the context of a >group, where their looping interacts somehow with others. > >Come to think of it, I will post another thought separately. > > | -----Original Message----- > | From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:mark@cdm.sfai.edu] > | Sent: Saturday 30 October 1999 12:52 PM > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > | Subject: Looping Laurie Anderson > | > | I know we've been through this before, but with a role model like > | Laurie, why do we > | find so few women interested in working with new tools (such as loopers) > | in Music? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 18:52:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06488; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:52:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:52:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000f01bf2327$433867d0$8f4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:36:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"1cTxt3.0.ho.OAt6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Come on Larry, I said the "average "solo effort'". To use your >expression, Geesh. Bach, Beethoven, Philip Glass (BTW, there's only one >'L' in Philip, Larry :-)), etc., did not develop their genius in a >bubble. I am making the observation that much of the music I've heard >from this new wave of solo performers is mediocre. Yes, including my >music (grumble). Beware the creative vacuum! > I guess have a hard time imagining an "average solo effort". You must admit that the generalization is oblique, subjective and ultimately unquantifiable. Maybe I'll lighten up and improve my typing skills anyway :) You *do* get the point though... >I think this is a sensitive subject for any "artist." Who wants to admit >their "art" is masturbatory? (Perhaps "masturbatory" is an unfortunate >expression for this thread. It does good job expressing the idea, >though.) > Gratuitous might be a more appropriate description. For instance, the mindless virtuoso who's performances strive to break land speed record, whether or not it complements or adds anything to the idiom s/he is working in. That would be gratuitous. >You are right on about the internet being a new and great tool for >sharing the music and ideas of these "lone creatives." That's why I'm on >this list. And why I think the critical scrutiny of others is crucial to >the process of loop making or whatever. > At least we can agree on that. - Larry > >L Tremblay wrote: >> >> By that that logic, Bach, Ludwig Van, Phillip Glass and a >> million other composers past and present are simply jerking >> off into the oblivion of mediocrity. >> >> Please... Do some actual thinking next time before you spout off >> unfounded generalizations like that. >> >> - Larry >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Poppen >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 2:52 PM >> Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers >> >> >I do think there is something to this notion that some loopers get to >> >exercise control freak tendencies without having to deal with "my lame >> >drummer who can't keep a straight beat", or any of the other fallible >> >human types. Looping pleasure can be like the pleasure one gets from >> >hearing one's own voice. Which leads to another notion and reminds me of >> >my favorite quote, from the Sherlock Holmes story "The Valley of Fear": >> >"Mediocrity knows nothing higher than itself, but talent instantly >> >recognizes genius." I think musical collaboration is a remedy to >> >individual mediocrity. Now, collaboration can still produce mediocre >> >music, but I'll go out on a limb and say not as mediocre as the average >> >"solo effort." >> > >> >This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his >> >guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" >> >magazines would do on his "instrument." >> > >> >Jim >> > >> >p.s. If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. >> >:-)! >> > >> >James Pokorny wrote: >> >> >> >> Hear, hear, Dave! >> >> >> >> I recently attended a show by a well-known looping artist. I was very >> >> interested in hearing what this performer could do, having heard the >> >> person's name and reputation but never having heard the music. This >> >> performer's stage demeanor was so hideous, obnoxious and blatantly >> >> condescending to the audience (who were extremely polite and attentive) >> as >> >> to be inexcusable. My immediate thought was: "No wonder this person >> uses >> >> all these looping devices . . . they'd never be able to get along with >> any >> >> other musicians!" I spoke afterwards with other audience members who >> echoed >> >> [:-)] similar sentiments. I guess the pathologically grumpy should be >> >> grateful for looping technology. >> >> >> >> James Pokorny >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: postaldave >> >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> >> Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 7:22 PM >> >> Subject: Re: unsubscribe >> >> >> >> >is this list group always so grumpy. ever wondered of the reason why >> people >> >> >loop? could it be that they can't get along with other players so they >> are >> >> >forced to play by themselfs? >> >> > >> >> >who knows.................doing an all night jam........by >> >> >myself...................your not invited.lol >> >> > >> >> >postaldave@qx.net >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 19:54:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA22065; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:54:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:54:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991030193215.007ab9f0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:32:15 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Halloween Loops In-Reply-To: <381B62B7.A19D7FA6@mindspring.com> References: <006101bf2315$4c9cc0d0$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"PMU0N2.0.9F4.b1u6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's not often that someone posts while actually looping, but right now I'm scaring the hell out of the trick-or-treaters with live theremin loops! Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 20:01:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23414; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:01:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:01:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991030193939.009187a0@pop-server> X-Sender: pvallad1@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:39:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson In-Reply-To: <007601bf2316$68f43230$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"yo5FI1.0.Tf4.Y9u6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 04:36 PM 10/30/99 -0400, you wrote: >Before aone else errs in their opinion of when the "little ladies" >will finally get into looping, you might want to pick up a book or >learn how to read. > >Pauline Oliveros created looping as we know it today. >A women. (Gasp!) In 1966, at Mills College. > >Eno knew this, Terry Riley new this. Geesh. > >Larry Hey Larry, Was that comment directed towards me personally? Paolo > >-----Original Message----- >From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:18 PM >Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson > > >>I once watched a concert by a woman from Mills College. She had a velvet >>glove that she wired up herself. It had sensors for each of her fingers. >>It could also sense the distance from another sensor in her belt buckle and >>yet another sensor attached to one of her shoes. This glove was driving a >>gigantic Max patch on her Powerbook which in turn was driving a couple of >>samplers and a synth. She said she built her velvet glove controller >>because she wanted a more feminine alternative to the videogame Powergloves >>(I think by Mattel) that other experimental musicians were using. She >>would perform by making motions with her gloved hand while reciting poetry >>or prose. >> >>I don't know why I didn't ask her when I had the chance her thoughts on the >>male-female ratio in the avant garde music scene. Then again, women were >>always in the minority in all the engineering classes I took in college. >> >>Paolo >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 20:14:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26281; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:14:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:14:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Halloween Loops Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:05:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000501bf2333$94fee420$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991030193215.007ab9f0@pop.ici.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"msOhi3.0._w5.kTu6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sounds like something to be recorded- butisn't Halloween tomorrow night? Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Halloween Loops It's not often that someone posts while actually looping, but right now I'm scaring the hell out of the trick-or-treaters with live theremin loops! Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 20:45:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32311; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:45:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:45:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000c01bf2336$00585ba0$8f4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:22:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"J-3B52.0.0l6.Hju6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No it wasn't. It was just an FYI. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson >At 04:36 PM 10/30/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Before aone else errs in their opinion of when the "little ladies" >>will finally get into looping, you might want to pick up a book or >>learn how to read. >> >>Pauline Oliveros created looping as we know it today. >>A women. (Gasp!) In 1966, at Mills College. >> >>Eno knew this, Terry Riley new this. Geesh. >> >>Larry > >Hey Larry, > >Was that comment directed towards me personally? > >Paolo > >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:18 PM >>Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson >> >> >>>I once watched a concert by a woman from Mills College. She had a velvet >>>glove that she wired up herself. It had sensors for each of her fingers. >>>It could also sense the distance from another sensor in her belt buckle and >>>yet another sensor attached to one of her shoes. This glove was driving a >>>gigantic Max patch on her Powerbook which in turn was driving a couple of >>>samplers and a synth. She said she built her velvet glove controller >>>because she wanted a more feminine alternative to the videogame Powergloves >>>(I think by Mattel) that other experimental musicians were using. She >>>would perform by making motions with her gloved hand while reciting poetry >>>or prose. >>> >>>I don't know why I didn't ask her when I had the chance her thoughts on the >>>male-female ratio in the avant garde music scene. Then again, women were >>>always in the minority in all the engineering classes I took in college. >>> >>>Paolo >>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 21:30:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08364; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:30:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:30:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:15:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bf233d$6384fba0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00c201bf2324$0b9b86c0$12cf08cf@donaldpancoe> Resent-Message-ID: <"-ewkk1.0.EW1.2Zv6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, dude! Women love those witch circles where they all get together to get naked, get drunk and dance all night... Well, I've never been there -- this is just pure speculation. | -----Original Message----- | From: Don "Mango" Pancoe [mailto:pancoe@netaxs.com] | Sent: Saturday 30 October 1999 3:14 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson | | | | Javier Miranda V. wrote: | > I think this relates to what Jim Poppen said today about male | masturbatory | > tendencies. Women tend to seek mutual satisfaction rather | than their own, | > i.e., "You don't share your feelings," "But honey, we don't | talk," etc. I | > would predict that women will get into looping only in the | context of a | > group, where their looping interacts somehow with others. | | I think your above theory might be borne out by the (relatively) recent | popularity of womens' drum circles. Of course, there is the whole | earth-mother-godess-provider thing (done in my best James Burke voice.) | | -- Mango -- | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 21:46:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA11522; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:46:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:46:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991030182025.01369760@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:20:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: SF Bay area loopers (group looping?) In-Reply-To: <000101bf2311$c6f626e0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> References: <381B4C68.A60C881D@cdm.sfai.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"RMfor.0.Pp1.Fgv6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just a matter of WHERE we could accomplish it, isn't it? At 01:03 PM 10/30/99 -0700, Javier wrote: >But it was just a thought. Who would think this could be accomplished? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 21:54:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13277; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:54:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:54:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991030214534.007b1370@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:45:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Looping Laurie Anderson In-Reply-To: <000101bf233d$6384fba0$9f8b0b18@pinol1.sfba.home.com> References: <00c201bf2324$0b9b86c0$12cf08cf@donaldpancoe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"z_fsj3.0.vv2.Z-v6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Women? Naked? Drunk? Speculation? .... oh, nevermind... Anyway, while I'm pretty sure most of us CAN read, most of us have probably never read what Pauline Oliveros has written. There's a lot of good info, including a bibliography at Tim ps: before anybody points this out, I'm aware that $68 divided by ten does not equal $7.50 :-) At 06:15 PM 10/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >Yes, dude! Women love those witch circles where they all get together to >get naked, get drunk and dance all night... Well, I've never been there -- >this is just pure speculation. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 23:01:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA26142; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:01:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:01:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991031025654.5239.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: grumpy friths Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:56:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"NNMw81.0.676.e0x6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A friend of mine and I met Fred Frith after one of his shows in SF lately, and, while he wasn't the most talkative musician, he certainly came across as a nice guy. My friend had Fred sign a copy 'Gravity' and Fred put a word bubble next to his own picture saying, "Hi Chris". Mr. Frith is now a music instructor at Mills College. Maybe there's a student of his on this list that could provide an expert opinion on Fred Frith's cuddliness? And I'll have you know that this is ABSOLUTELY loop related somehow. M.T. > > > >The artist to whom I was referring makes Mr. Fripp look warm, fuzzy, cozy > >and avuncular! :-} > > > >JP (ever notice how many loopers on this list have the same initials?) > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 23:18:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29789; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:18:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:18:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19991031031142.39312.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "Mr. Tough" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: grumpy fripps too Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:11:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"p9Cir1.0.1v6.WEx6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oh, wait, so you're telling me that Fred Frith and Robert Fripp are actually two different people?!?!?! Don't worry folks, I smacked my eyeballs around some and now they know to read more carefully before I go opening my big yap. Mr. Tough >From: "Mr. Tough" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: grumpy friths >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:56:54 PDT > >A friend of mine and I met Fred Frith after one of his shows in SF lately, >and, while he wasn't the most talkative musician, he certainly came across >as a nice guy. > >My friend had Fred sign a copy 'Gravity' and Fred put a word bubble next to >his own picture saying, "Hi Chris". > >Mr. Frith is now a music instructor at Mills College. Maybe there's a >student of his on this list that could provide an expert opinion on Fred >Frith's cuddliness? > >And I'll have you know that this is ABSOLUTELY loop related somehow. > >M.T. > > > >> > >> >The artist to whom I was referring makes Mr. Fripp look warm, fuzzy, >>cozy >> >and avuncular! :-} >> > >> >JP (ever notice how many loopers on this list have the same initials?) >> > >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Oct 30 23:20:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30631; Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:20:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:20:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 20:14:52 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: So THAT's what happened to ZIPI... In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.19991029222548.0091d880@pop-server> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <381A285C.85C8ABCF@bellsouth.net> <199910292153.RAA11053@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"4Li_41.0.tB7.DIx6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OT historical stuff follows: Paolo said: >Re: So THAT's what happened to ZIPI... I guess you read Lynx Crowe's site? I don't think that is much of a representation of what happened to ZIPI. I was there throughout that whole affair, witnessing it first hand. Much of what is said on Lynx's site didn't quite happen that way in the same universe I exist in. Lynx had nothing to do with the end of zipi, aside from causing huge schedule delays and preventing us from ever having working hardware. Lynx was writing code for the ZIPI hardware, and had never delivered anything that worked at all after a full year of work on what seemed to be an easy project. (he just had to implement the detailed specs we had written.) We had given up on him and were in the process of hiring somebody else when all that nonsense started. The "war" as Lynx calls it was initiated by Lynx, not Gibson, since we just wanted him to go away. His claims about the value of his worthless software are pretty funny, but his claims about the value of the OBMx are funnier still. That thing is the titanic of the synth world, hardly any of them were ever sold. I think as part of a settlement Gibson gave him all that code for zipi and obmx to do whatever he wanted with, since it certainly wasn't worth anything to anybody else. At 7:25 PM -0700 10/29/99, pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com wrote: >I remember Gibson at one time was in cahoots with UC Berkeley's CNMAT and >Zeta working on ZIPI, I was one of the people who worked on it, at Gibson's G-WIZ labs R&D division. Another poster expressed surprise that Gibson owned this, which seems a little odd since there is no secret about that. What's known as ZIPI was developed in Gibson's G-WIZ labs division, by Gibson employees, paid for by Gibson. We worked closely with people at CNMAT as well, and some initial ideas came from zeta. CNMAT has received very generous funding from Gibson for many years, BTW. >a network-based protocol that would supplant MIDI as >a control standard. Instead of MIDI's 32 or so KHz bandwidth, you have >bandwidth at least equivalent to Ethernet (which is much, much higher). >And since its network based, you can connect a bunch of devices into an >Ethernet-like LAN without the mess of lots of MIDI in and out cables. It wasn't "ethernet" speed (I guess you mean 10base-t). Zipi was spec'd as scaling bandwidth from 256Kb/s to 4Mb/s. But unlike ethernet it guaranteed a very fast real-time response for time-critical control signals, which we felt was necessary for communicating the expression data we expected our guitar-synth controller to generate. The lower layers of the network were a clever token ring network with some really great ideas in it. It was never working in the real world, btw. >I also remember hearing that ZIPI was dead in the water. has been for years. No development happened after mid '95. Most of the work was done well before that, late '93 - early '94. There was a different legal issue which froze zipi up, but I don't think it would have made a difference. Niche protocols like this don't have much of a future anymore, and there was never much support for zipi in the MI industry. The outcome would have been the same no matter what. >Now, I hear Gibson announcing something called GMICS (http://www.gmics.org/) >The idea of using it as a replacement for MIDI is downplayed. It's being >pushed more as a digital audio networking solution. > >Will GMICS make it? Or is it doomed? Find out next year, same time, same >Bat-channel... What I like is, the people who developed it pronounce it "Gimmicks". kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 00:31:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14717; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:31:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:31:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002b01bf2356$fb9db6c0$4b4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:18:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"T9Uj01.0.XQ2.gAy6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Tim, I know *you* can read. One need go no further than the Looper's Delight History section and check out Michael Peter's wonderful essay, "The Birth of Loop", provided for our reading enjoyment by none other than our host Kim, who as we know descends from a long and distinguished line of assholes. ;) The San Francisco Tape Music Center (Pauline, Terry, et al) http://www.annihilist.com/loop/history/Loophist.html#hist6 Best Regards, - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: RE: Looping Laurie Anderson >Women? Naked? Drunk? Speculation? .... oh, nevermind... > >Anyway, while I'm pretty sure most of us CAN read, most of us have probably >never read what Pauline Oliveros has written. There's a lot of good info, >including a bibliography at > >Tim > >ps: before anybody points this out, I'm aware that $68 divided by ten does >not equal $7.50 :-) > >At 06:15 PM 10/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >>Yes, dude! Women love those witch circles where they all get together to >>get naked, get drunk and dance all night... Well, I've never been there -- >>this is just pure speculation. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 00:31:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14718; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:31:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:31:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:27:25 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: gibson article In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: Resent-Message-ID: <"Kk31-3.0.dO3.PLy6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 7:46 AM -0700 10/29/99, Tom Ritchford wrote: >I've been active on the Opcode user's mailing list and I have to >say that it was Gibson's behavior that made me refuse to confirm >for the Echoplex group purchase list. >My personal advice is not to have anything to do with Gibson >in any position where you have to trust them. If you are >presented with a burned-in and working Echoplex, go for it, >but otherwise I'd wait for something else to come up. > Please let's stop spreading this kind of conspiratorial nonsense around. Events at opcode have nothing to do with the Echoplex's future at Gibson, or the business relationship between Gibson and Aurisis. We've been working with Gibson since 1993 and things are fine. Unlike opcode, the echoplex is a popular, profit-generating product, which is all it needs to survive. Rather than drawing these kinds of gloomy conclusions, please feel free to contact us or Gibson to get some accurate information. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 00:32:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14869; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:32:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:32:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:15:32 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: gibson article In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"8HXl23.0.fM2.VAy6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >this probably seems a bit off topic, but this (URL below) is an interesting >article about gibson and opcode (oberheim is mentioned!). i'm wondering if >kim has any comments to add (especially since it is almost november, and >still no sign of the EDP). > >klowy > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/6454/index.html comment: - Business is not warm and fuzzy. welcome to capitalism. Just because it's the music instrument business doesn't make it pretty. These same things happen everywhere. - The average business people in the music world seem to be stupider than most. They have knack for vastly overestimating their own importance and wealth-generating potential, getting very greedy, then doing foolish things and getting themselves sued by entites who actually do have the power they thought they had. - Opcode had screwed themselves over long before Gibson came along. They were blinking out fast. Seems to me that Gibson kept a terminal patient alive one year longer than they would have lasted anyway. It baffles me how people see Gibson as the bad guy here. I guess conspiracy theory is always more fun. - This represents a bigger trend. Music application software is a doomed industry IMO. There's hardly any money in it now, and all the customers freely steal the products anyway. Or they find a freeware version elsewhere. Expect to see a lot more companies vanish in the next five years. Even Microsoft doesn't expect to be selling software in 10 years, they are transitioning towards a services business model. I doubt that will work in a small-money niche like the music biz, certainly not before a lot more consolodation. - Events with Opcode are mostly unrelated to the Echoplex. We (Aurisis Research) have had a reasonable business relationship with Gibson for many years. Our deal with them is simple and clear, and we try not to be idiots about it, so it continues to work. - I say "mostly" because we wasted a bunch of time getting opcode set up for echoplex production, while they went back and forth on it and couldn't decide what to do. If they had run with it, they would have had at least one product making money and maybe still be around, and echoplexes would have been available months ago. If you want to blame somebody for lack of echoplexes right now, try the geniuses at opcode. That whole event pissed me off a lot, but in retrospect it is better. I like the current situation for the Echoplex a lot more, and new units are indeed on the way. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 00:34:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15611; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:34:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:34:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003401bf2358$dc7d32f0$4b4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: So THAT's what happened to ZIPI...slightly OT Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:31:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"G5O8X2.0.4V3.FNy6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim - I remember this going down in the late '80's/early-90's too. Do you have any idea what happened to adding alternate-tuning capabilities (Just Intonation, for example) to the MIDI Spec that was supposed to supercede the current General MIDI kludge we're stuck with now? I got so disgusted with MIDI that I eventually abandoned it in favor of CV control. Anyone else? - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 00:48:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20124; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:48:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:48:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:43:32 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: bay area gathering In-reply-to: <199910290713.AAA05873@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"knk0u.0.pe4.Iay6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:16 AM -0700 10/29/99, Stan Card wrote: >Well we are talking San Fran/Oaktown Bay-Area beer drinkin'looper guys...I >guess we wait for you,Kim to pick up the ball(w/ your organizational powers >that be) to set up a time and place around here in this loopy >world!!!...stanner afraid I don't have time this month to organize or host this. You guys pick a place and time, I'll be happy to join you if I'm free. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 01:24:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28040; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:24:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:24:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 22:08:21 -0700 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: So THAT's what happened to ZIPI...slightly OT In-reply-to: <003401bf2358$dc7d32f0$4b4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"1h1Nt2.0.vv5.gxy6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:31 PM -0700 10/30/99, L Tremblay wrote: >Kim - > >I remember this going down in the late '80's/early-90's too. > >Do you have any idea what happened to adding alternate-tuning >capabilities (Just Intonation, for example) to the MIDI Spec >that was supposed to supercede the current General MIDI kludge >we're stuck with now? no idea about that one, sorry. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 01:37:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30562; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:37:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:37:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <0.63451073.254d2b64@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:19:32 EDT Subject: Re: MRC To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"eUm8d1.0.3b6.R6z6u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/29/99 8:55:49 PM, murkie@panther.middlebury.edu writes: >got one but haven't figured out how i want to incorporate it into my set-up >(or if i even need to!). how'd you use it? > - um lessee... we are talkking the Lexicon MRC desktop controller... nice thingie. I had the keypad sending program changes... punch inna number & enter... you could set this up to task multiple channels etc... problem was I hate remembering numbers so i always had a list of what programs were doing what... then that was heard to read onstage etc. got sos I would use a basic five or six programs... kinda like driving a semi to the grocery store. just take the bug; ya know? then the slider things could you know; do the usual continuous controller business ie: increase effects mix, um... chorous depth, leslie speed... umm.. you name it. targeting multiple expression inputs with positive-negative values is always fun too... as in increase reverb time while decreasing the mix... shite like that. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 06:53:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA24312; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:53:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:53:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <0.278dca5a.254d8068@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 06:22:16 EST Subject: Re: unsubscribe / grumpy loopers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"QQYOa1.0.en4.WQ27u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the avuncular mr. fripp...wasn't that a series on bbc for a few years? =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 08:09:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04396; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:09:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991031080530.007abdd0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 08:05:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: gibson article In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"CT5wS.0.O11.Hy37u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Kim (not female), Do you dare to venture a ROUGH, approximate timeframe estimate, or would that be taken too literally , like "August" was? With the full understanding that your guess is in no way binding and you don't run Gibson, what's the latest word on when we maybe gon' see these thangs? BTW, how are your callouses? Regards to you and your distinguished line of ancestry, Tim (GraphTech saddles keep my wire things from breaking, but we won't talk about that...) At 09:15 PM 10/30/99 -0700, you wrote: >If you want to blame somebody for lack of >echoplexes right now, try the geniuses at opcode. That whole event pissed >me off a lot, but in retrospect it is better. I like the current situation >for the Echoplex a lot more, and new units are indeed on the way. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 10:34:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30009; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:34:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:34:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005201bf23b5$02cb64c0$ddb84e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: grumpy loopers, genius vs. jerk Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:31:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"jqskG1.0.d77.r267u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. :-)! > >Apart from the artist-in-question's attitude, Mr. Pokorny never said how he >otherwise enjoyed the performance... Nor did he reveal who the ornery >looper was for that matter Good call, Tim! I should have mentioned that the music itself was absolutely incredible. The performer, whom I would prefer not to name, had a virtuosic command of the instrument (which was NOT a guitar, but did have some of those unmentionable taut wire things on it ;-} ), and also had a real mastery of the technology, pedals, and looping equipment. I was most impressed by the textures, melodies, rhythms and complex arrangements all generated by one person through one instrument and devices. If the music had not been so compelling I would have left after the first piece because I resent being insulted by any performer. I don't expect every musician to "work the crowd" or to win an audience over with their charming personality, but I don't think it's too great a stretch of the imagination to realize that people who have paid money to hear you play should be treated with decency and respect. This brings up a somewhat off-topic point that's been brought up recently and has been plaguing me for quite some time: how to separate the art from the artist, especially when the art is sublime but the artist is a miserable, misanthropic so-and-so. Some examples that immediately come to mind: Richard Wagner, Ezra Pound, Pablo Picasso, Graham Greene, Lou Reed, . . . I'm sure that everyone can think of many other examples from the worlds of music, art, literature, etc. It's impossible not to admire their immense talent or genius, but hard to reconcile the pain and grief that they brought either to immediate friends and family, or to vast numbers of people unknown to them (e.g., the very public anti-Semitism of Wagner and Pound). I don't want to get too far OT, but I always have difficulty in isolating the greatness of the art because conscience kicks in and urges "Yeah, but he was such a jerk!" James Pokorny From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 11:00:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02386; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:00:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:00:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910311547.AAA06734@mail.st.rim.or.jp> Subject: Re: So THAT's what happened to ZIPI... Date: Mon, 1 Nov 99 00:51:24 -0000 x-sender: liminal@mail.st.rim.or.jp x-mailer: Claris Emailer-J 2.0v2 From: Yoshiaki Matsumoto To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"2RNlY3.0.a5.iI67u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Only 16 audio channels?? One sampler could exhaust that. >>Now, I hear Gibson announcing something called GMICS (http://www.gmics.org/) >>The idea of using it as a replacement for MIDI is downplayed. It's being >>pushed more as a digital audio networking solution. >> >>Will GMICS make it? Or is it doomed? Find out next year, same time, same >>Bat-channel... > >What I like is, the people who developed it pronounce it "Gimmicks". > >kim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 11:32:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08350; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:32:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:32:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Loopbozo@aol.com Message-ID: <0.4e75dbbb.254dc61e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:19:42 EST Subject: Re: grumpy loopers, genius vs. jerk To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 23 Resent-Message-ID: <"pA8hN1.0.PZ1.Ln67u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Back in 1981 my partner and I sent a tape of loops we had done, to Fred Frith. About a year later we received a very nice letter from Fred with a positive swirl to it and the encouragement to keep at it.The nature of the art versus the artist argument was first made to me as a youngster by my father who said that the work of Charlie Parker was to be admired, but his choice of lifestyle was not. The list of people whose work could fall into this realm is as unique as the individual doing the lisiting.I love Debussy.....but as I understand it he was not a nice guy in the context of family life. Bryan Helm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 12:16:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA16780; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:16:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:16:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381C8057.729181DB@cdm.sfai.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:46:04 -0800 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Organization: San Francisco Art Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Learning to read. References: <007601bf2316$68f43230$3e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Resent-Message-ID: <"umybk.0.4X2.d477u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey sarcasm boy, > Before aone else errs in their opinion of when the "little ladies" > will finally get into looping, you might want to pick up a book or > learn how to read. > I'm pretty sure most of us know that woman, can, will, and do loop. That wasn't the point. The point is, I don't think that there is a single woman on this list. I find that bothersome. It seems unnatural. There were females on this list at one time, why did they leave? Are we creating a hostile environment towards women? Are we a bunch of boring tech geeks? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 12:21:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17785; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:21:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:21:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910311651.IAA26058@crow.a001.sprintmail.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:52:10 -0500 Subject: Pauline Oliveros interview From: "Tiktok World HQ" To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eWmPh3.0.8x2.pE77u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There's a great interview with Oliveros in William Duckworth's book "Talking Music", which I'd highly recommend to anyone with an interest in experimental music. Also has great interviews with Cage, Riley, Young, Zorn, Laurie Anderson, Branca, Glass, and many more. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 12:31:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19784; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:31:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:31:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381C852E.949B3A36@cdm.sfai.edu> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:06:43 -0800 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Organization: San Francisco Art Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Topics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark@cdm.sfai.edu Resent-Message-ID: <"dYORn.0.nP3.wN77u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It seems kind of weird to me that so many of feel the need to stay "on topic." A lot of us have been on this list a long time. I was on it for a pretty long time, left, and have recently come back to find that we seem to be going over the same ground, over and over. "Oh, there's a new box that blah, blah blahs..." "Fripp is a poop head..." and so on. Anyway, I welcome diversity in topics. Perhaps we should all just try to use Subject headers that accurately describe the post, rather than try to strictly censor ourselves. If you're not interested in a post, don't read it. I've found ton's of interesting stuff on this list that didn't directly relate to looping, but was useful to me as a looper. Which dog shampoo helps control fleas the best, is probably a bad topic, but maybe the short life cycle of the flea and the mutations that occur from genetic "looping" could be useful and interesting to the list. It's a subtle point, and one that's bound to be broken, again and again, but if we're to continue to be a vital list, we may need to be a little more forgiving of the myriad of wacky topics that come from our loopy selves. Of course, you could just tell me to shut up... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 12:49:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24383; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:49:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:49:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004f01bf23c6$2ea8bb90$b34badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: grumpy loopers, genius vs. jerk Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:34:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"TG5gN2.0.3-4.sq77u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For anyone interested in looking below the surface into Fripp's philosophical and political orientation, one will find the root of his animosity, bitterness and outright hostility toward the "marketplace" and its attendant participants. (How's that for oblique?) - Larry -----Original Message----- From: James Pokorny To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:37 AM Subject: Re: grumpy loopers, genius vs. jerk >>>If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. :-)! >> >>Apart from the artist-in-question's attitude, Mr. Pokorny never said how he >>otherwise enjoyed the performance... Nor did he reveal who the ornery >>looper was for that matter > >Good call, Tim! I should have mentioned that the music itself was >absolutely incredible. The performer, whom I would prefer not to name, had >a virtuosic command of the instrument (which was NOT a guitar, but did have >some of those unmentionable taut wire things on it ;-} ), and also had a >real mastery of the technology, pedals, and looping equipment. I was most >impressed by the textures, melodies, rhythms and complex arrangements all >generated by one person through one instrument and devices. If the music >had not been so compelling I would have left after the first piece because I >resent being insulted by any performer. I don't expect every musician to >"work the crowd" or to win an audience over with their charming personality, >but I don't think it's too great a stretch of the imagination to realize >that people who have paid money to hear you play should be treated with >decency and respect. > >This brings up a somewhat off-topic point that's been brought up recently >and has been plaguing me for quite some time: how to separate the art from >the artist, especially when the art is sublime but the artist is a >miserable, misanthropic so-and-so. Some examples that immediately come to >mind: Richard Wagner, Ezra Pound, Pablo Picasso, Graham Greene, Lou Reed, . >. . I'm sure that everyone can think of many other examples from the worlds >of music, art, literature, etc. It's impossible not to admire their immense >talent or genius, but hard to reconcile the pain and grief that they brought >either to immediate friends and family, or to vast numbers of people unknown >to them (e.g., the very public anti-Semitism of Wagner and Pound). > >I don't want to get too far OT, but I always have difficulty in isolating >the greatness of the art because conscience kicks in and urges "Yeah, but he >was such a jerk!" > >James Pokorny > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 13:02:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26910; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:02:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:02:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tomr@pop.interport.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005201bf23b5$02cb64c0$ddb84e0c@u73x0> References: <005201bf23b5$02cb64c0$ddb84e0c@u73x0> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:44:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: grumpy loopers, genius vs. jerk Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"ysqeu.0.ji5.K187u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Some examples that immediately come to >mind: Richard Wagner, Ezra Pound, Pablo Picasso, Graham Greene, Lou Reed, . Hey, Lou Reed is very approachable! I see him pretty often at gallery openings around New York. A few years ago my girlfriend (who was a big fan of his) saw and was staring at him as he was leaving a gallery... "is that Lou Reed?" and he very politely waited for her to walk over to him. "I'd just like to shake your hand," she said, and he said, "Put it there!" (in that inimitable voice of his), shook, smiled at her, and left with a friendly wave. Really warm and non-pretentious. ObLooping: OTOH, a famous looper who I won't identify except to say that he plays with a progressive rock band that has lasted 30 years and with a seminal ambient musician... was being driven around by a Friend Of A Friend. Said FOAF had been instructed not to speak to F, er, the musician, and didn't... except right as he was driving to the airport, at the very end, they were stopped at a light and he said, "Excuse me, Mr. Xxxxx, I've been a huge fan of yours for over ten years and..." At this juncture, Xxxxx interrupted him by yelling "ASSHOLE!" at him at the top of his lungs and the journey finished in silence again. /t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 13:01:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26833; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:01:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:01:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005e01bf23c7$e36b7e40$b34badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: , Subject: Re: Learning to read. Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:46:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"hwNjv1.0.8g5.I087u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If indeed there are no women on the list I beleive the last one perhaps would have left at rate when the conversation turned to masterbation (a typically locker room-type male obsession). Everyone knows women can be just as crude and rude as any of the boys. But I think at times the Boys club atmosphere is a bit stifling at off-putting at times. My wife regularly reads some of these posts and I asked her what she thought of it. She simply said "Guys..." and added "so what if your sister wanted to subscribe? Would *she* be impressed?" Therefore, I'm resolved to abstain from overtly offensive guy talk in an effort to reduce my own alienation quotient. Sorry guys :) - Larry (sarcasm boy) Tremblay -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 12:20 PM Subject: Learning to read. >Hey sarcasm boy, > > >> Before aone else errs in their opinion of when the "little ladies" >> will finally get into looping, you might want to pick up a book or >> learn how to read. >> > >I'm pretty sure most of us know that woman, can, will, and do loop. >That wasn't the point. The point is, I don't think that there is a >single woman on this list. I find that bothersome. It seems >unnatural. There were females on this list at one time, why did they >leave? Are we creating a hostile environment towards women? Are we a >bunch of boring tech geeks? > >Mark > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 13:09:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28812; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:09:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:09:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:53:52 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Random Loop Mutation Resent-Message-ID: <"aEApV.0.zD6.6987u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mark Sottilaro said: >but maybe the short life cycle of the flea and the mutations that occur >from genetic "looping" could be useful and interesting to the list Hmmmm, how about non-destructive random mutation of the loop with every repetition? Realizing the Echoplex and most loopers aren't multi-effects, what kind of fun could we have with this scenario? Knowing from hints that the new Loop software does some granular tricks, maybe random reordering of sections of the loop, for example dividing the loop into 8ths or 16ths and rearranging playback order? How about doing this and dividing the playback lengths into some really small divisors, so the sections are only a few milleseconds long? Now put control of the degree of randomicity (?) and the division length under midi real-time control... More suggestions for random mutation please! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 13:29:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00424; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:29:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:29:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:59:20 -0500 (EST) From: Tara Key Sender: tk10@columbia.edu To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Learning to read. In-Reply-To: <381C8057.729181DB@cdm.sfai.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"pr4az.0.2T6.DE87u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have been holding my tongue because I absolutely hate discussions based on gender (seeing as for 20+ years of performing I have had to address it SO many times). Suffice it to say that I, a female (also a guitar player, pinball freak, painter and any other thing that describes me IN PART) am on the list as I have been for a while. I have gotten much, much, much out of the list, but by nature I am not talking at the party, but lurking. This has nothing to do with being female. Don't worry boys, until you get stuck on the stuff like masturbatory music being guy-centric (not, not true---a) girls DO IT TOO), the list is always informative and entertaining. Hell, seeing some of you boys get all het up about this is sorta entertaining as well! And as I get older and poorer and retreat to my home studio more and more, I find myself being able to talk tech with the best of ya'll. It has nothing to do with being a girl...I have been shooting it with the boys at the guitar store since I was barely able to play. Yanked out of lurk mode (amusedly), Tara Key Antietam shamelessly promoting Rick Rizzo/Tara Key "Dark Edson Tiger" (mucho loop-centric instrumental disc) due Jan 2000 on Thrill Jockey From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 13:39:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02160; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:39:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:39:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: New loopage - for me anyway. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991030172334.007ab2e0@pop.ici.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"_VvDc2.0.jN.8l87u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No wildly deep contibutions to make, but I did here some unique loopage on NPR today. Gideon Freudmann - plays electric cello, and talked a bit about the old tape-based echoplex. Had some unique sounding stuff, the one tune I heard started out like some of Adrian Belew's animal sounds, then transitioned through Smoke on the Water, the Andy Mayberry song, Sunshine of your love, a Beatles tune, the Flintstones, and a few other things, before coming to the end. There are some samples of his stuff up on cdnow. I'm off to enjoy the last fleeting nice weather here in the rust belt. Loop/Talk On! Stew Benedict From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 13:53:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05339; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:53:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:53:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381C8D58.41B2E324@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:41:28 -0800 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Learning to read References: <005e01bf23c7$e36b7e40$b34badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Bu5Sz1.0.Wh.Cr87u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Larry, Your persnickety attitude is alienating. You should do some work on that front too. :-) or maybe :-( , your call. My comments about masturbation, taken in context, wouldn't even have been misconstrued by a well trained monkey. I resent your characterizing my comments as "overtly offensive", too. And I was not making "guy talk." If you must make idle accusation like, "If indeed there are no women on the list I believe the last one perhaps would have left at rate when the conversation turned to masterbation (a typically locker room-type male obsession)", or other accusations about a person's ability to read, why don't you keep it to yourself or e-mail the person you have a problem with privately? Jim Sorry for posting this to the list. I'm just upset by yer attitude Larry. If you didn't post so much it wouldn't be a big deal. > > Therefore, I'm resolved to abstain from overtly offensive > guy talk in an effort to reduce my own alienation quotient. > > Sorry guys :) > > - Larry (sarcasm boy) Tremblay > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 14:25:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12243; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:25:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:25:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007a01bf23d2$8c52bc80$0100a8c0@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Peter Shindler" To: References: Subject: Re: New loopage - for me anyway. Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:02:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"tr2J63.0.I52.uB97u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw Freudmann perform a few years ago at the University of Connecticut as part of their Cello Society's annual concert. He performed solo and stole the show. He played a couple of silly songs, which he sang while plucking his cello like an upright bass, and did a number of his own instrumental pieces. The only looping he did was one piece where he set up a polka-esque bass line, looped it through a small DigiTech floor unit of some kind, then went nuts over it. Very musical all the way through. I don't know what he's been up to lately, but I believe he's got a site out there somewhere. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Stew Benedict To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:32 PM Subject: New loopage - for me anyway. > > No wildly deep contibutions to make, but I did here some unique loopage on > NPR today. Gideon Freudmann - plays electric cello, and talked a bit > about the old tape-based echoplex. Had some unique sounding stuff, the > one tune I heard started out like some of Adrian Belew's animal sounds, > then transitioned through Smoke on the Water, the Andy Mayberry song, > Sunshine of your love, a Beatles tune, the Flintstones, and a few other > things, before coming to the end. There are some samples of his stuff up > on cdnow. I'm off to enjoy the last fleeting nice weather here in the > rust belt. > > Loop/Talk On! > Stew Benedict > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 14:46:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16807; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:46:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:46:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Learning to read. Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:25:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <005e01bf23c7$e36b7e40$b34badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"w8kbd.0.n_2.jU97u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have to agree 200%. I will acknowledge my guilt now, before someone points their finger at me. As Kim says, let's stick to looping. Come to think of it, it's very embarrassing that a lot of search engines, which index LD, have all these links, and these things show up in the LD search pages. Overall, it makes sense to think three times before posting anything to Loopers' Delight. | -----Original Message----- | From: L Tremblay [mailto:ltct@concentric.net] | Sent: Sunday 31 October 1999 9:47 AM | To: mark@cdm.sfai.edu; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Re: Learning to read. | | | My wife regularly reads some of these posts and I asked | her what she thought of it. She simply said "Guys..." and | added "so what if your sister wanted to subscribe? Would | *she* be impressed?" | | Therefore, I'm resolved to abstain from overtly offensive | guy talk in an effort to reduce my own alienation quotient. | | Sorry guys :) | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 15:44:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27609; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:44:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:44:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:39:29 -0800 From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: chill In-reply-to: <381C8D58.41B2E324@mindspring.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <005e01bf23c7$e36b7e40$b34badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"hEV991.0.EX6.paA7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ok boys, take a deep breath and chill out. Otherwise I'll have to send you to your rooms (with no loops) until you can talk nice. It's just a mailing list....it's sunday, it's halloween, etc.....grab a beer and some mini candy bars and watch the kiddies play in the jar-jar binks costumes. kim >Your persnickety attitude is alienating. You should do some work on that >front too. :-) >or maybe :-( , your call. >> Therefore, I'm resolved to abstain from overtly offensive >> guy talk in an effort to reduce my own alienation quotient. >> >> Sorry guys :) >> >> - Larry (sarcasm boy) Tremblay ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 16:16:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01526; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:16:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:16:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002c01bf23e3$1ad3a6d0$1e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Learning to read Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:01:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"tdsiZ3.0.NV7.xsA7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Your persnickety attitude is alienating. You should do some work on that >front too. :-) >or maybe :-( , your call. I have to agree with you there. :-) > >My comments about masturbation, taken in context, wouldn't even have >been misconstrued by a well trained monkey. I resent your characterizing >my comments as "overtly offensive", too. And I was not making "guy >talk." > I suppose what is and isn't guy talk is up for grabs, just my opinion here. BTW, I did not say *your* comments were overtly offensive. I said *I* would refrain from it. And please leave my ancestors out of it. :) >If you must make idle accusation like, "If indeed there are no women on >the list I believe the last one perhaps would have left at rate when the >conversation turned to masterbation (a typically locker room-type male >obsession)", or other accusations about a person's ability to read, why >don't you keep it to yourself or e-mail the person you have a problem >with privately? > My idle persnickety side wants to dash off repostes like "Hit a nerve?", but I realize that someone might take it to heart. ;) >Sorry for posting this to the list. I'm just upset by yer attitude >Larry. If you didn't post so much it wouldn't be a big deal. > And I apologize for apparently inciting such ire based on an opinion of why so few members of the fairer sex frequent LD. (No offense Tara, and the others, if any). >> >> Therefore, I'm resolved to abstain from overtly offensive >> guy talk in an effort to reduce my own alienation quotient. >> See? I said *I* would abstain for overtly offensive guy talk. You certainly have the first amendment on your side to speak as you wish. Best Regards, Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 16:19:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01958; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199910312115.NAA24817@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:19:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Learning to read. From: "Stan Card" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"He3fB1.0.cM.76B7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i wanna B your boyfriend,girlfriend... ---------- >From: Tara Key >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Learning to read. >Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 10:59 AM > > I have been holding my tongue because I absolutely hate discussions based > on gender (seeing as for 20+ years of performing I have had to address it > SO many times). > Suffice it to say that I, a female (also a guitar player, pinball freak, > painter and any other thing that describes me IN PART) am on the list as I > have been for a while. I have gotten much, much, much out of the list, but > by nature I am not talking at the party, but lurking. This has nothing to > do with being female. Don't worry boys, until you get stuck on the stuff > like masturbatory music being guy-centric (not, not true---a) girls DO IT > TOO), the list is always informative and entertaining. Hell, seeing some > of you boys get all het up about this is sorta entertaining as well! And > as I get older and poorer and retreat to my home studio more and more, I > find myself being able to talk tech with the best of ya'll. It has nothing > to do with being a girl...I have been shooting it with the boys at the > guitar store since I was barely able to play. > Yanked out of lurk mode (amusedly), > Tara Key > Antietam > shamelessly promoting Rick Rizzo/Tara Key "Dark Edson Tiger" (mucho > loop-centric instrumental disc) due Jan 2000 on Thrill Jockey > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 16:23:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03032; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Cornhilio2@aol.com Message-ID: <0.4a67597d.254e0c73@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:19:47 EST Subject: Re: Learning to read To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 216 Resent-Message-ID: <"ibOt02.0.yf.gAB7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey man both of you and everyone whos fighting just knock it off and learn to forgive and forget man shit you joined this mailin list to talk to poeple like your selfs about the one thing that brings you together not to fight about masterbation From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 17:02:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10663; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:02:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:02:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991031154420.007c2910@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:44:20 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Fear Of Technology In-Reply-To: <199910292153.RAA11053@smtp7.atl.mindspring.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"rPFrV3.0.Gs1.GYB7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... I have a question for everyone. How many here have had to get over (or are currently trying to get over) a fear of technology? By this I mean not wanting to move on with technology (i.e. computer recording or editing--or even something as simple as a slight gear upgrade from pedals to rack gear). An example of my own is a reluctance to start working with computer recording and editing software. I've just got up the guts to dive into the digital recording world of a Rolqand VS880EX, and it's great. It's taken a while to work through that learning curve, but it's been worth work and drudgery of that Roland manual. However, I am very reluctant to start work with a computer editing and recording program. Even though I would love it for it's editing and looping possiblitlies--it just seems that I would somehow be shortchanging my music or watering down the work process that I've become accustomed to. I know that this is just something to get over, but I am very curious to hear other folks' experiences with this. Thanks, Jeff __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 18:31:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28275; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:31:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:31:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000501bf23f6$b88c6980$11ce883e@colins-gear> From: "Colin Seddon" To: Subject: Re: grumpy loopers Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:01:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"TuluS1.0.M46.PrC7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is all just missing the point. It's like that old ridiculous argument that used to say that synthesizers and drum machines were putting musicians out of business. For example, using loopage , one percussionist in a band could set up some wicked grooves for other players in the band to jam with. That's what I'll be using it for when I finally get hold of an Echoplex. There are of course, times when use of loops gets you around the financial constraints of a project, like when there's only money for one musician. But it's not always about lone-loopers vs bands. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: 30 October 1999 21:25 Subject: Re: grumpy loopers >Cantankerous?! Us?! > >One of the things that makes me the grumpiest about playing with a group of >musicians has absolutely nothing to do with the music. Once everyone has >shown up, set up and gets playing it's fine, but as often as not there's >the simple logistical problem that any project involving a number of people >gets proportionately more impossible to schedule as the number of people >involved increases, especially when the people have day jobs, lives, a >distance to travel and/or attitudes. Concensus issues get easier with fewer >players, too. Looping technology enables us to do more with fewer people, >thereby increasing the odds of actually doing SOMETHING on any given >occasion! On the other hand, there're fewer hands to carry stuff when >playing out, but at least the vast sums of money taken in at the door don't >have to be split in as many ways. (Admit it, how many of us thought of that >right away when multi-member ska or swing bands started getting popular >again?! A $68 Tuesday night door take divided by guitar, bass, drums, 2 >saxes, 2 trumpets, a trombone, a piano player and a vocalist comes to a big >$7.50 each before deducting gas money. If you bought two drinks of >Glenlivet and a set of those wire things that many of us use on our >instruments but don't talk about here, you're in the hole. A loopist and a >drummer could split that 68 bucks in half and take home a hefty $34 each, >riding in one vehicle! :-)) > >At 11:45 AM 10/30/99 -0700, Jim wrote: >> I think musical collaboration is a remedy to >>individual mediocrity. > >Yep, it sure can be, as long as everybody's listening to each other and >respectful of each others' contribution. Otherwise it's the sum total of >the individual mediocrity of everyone in the room. >> >>This is coming from a guy who has done more masturbatory wanking on his >>guitar and bass and drum machine than a hermit teen male with "special" >>magazines would do on his "instrument." > >Who amongst us can truly claim otherwise! We even use "special" devices. ;-) >> >>If you must dis Fripp's stage demeanor, please do so elsewhere. :-)! > >Apart from the artist-in-question's attitude, Mr. Pokorny never said how he >otherwise enjoyed the performance... Nor did he reveal who the ornery >looper was for that matter, but since you mention RF, I wanted to include a >link to a response Fripp wrote to someone who was complaining about not >being able to see him at a Fripp/Sylvian concert because of the "moody" >lighting, but I couldn't find it. If anyone can locate it, it's hilarious; >Fripp actually sent the guy a small check as a prorated refund with the >condition that the whiner never again come to see him or listen to his >recordings... > >Tim (Ernie Ball Hybrid Slinky, Rotosound Swing Bass and Dunlop nylon >plectrum user, but let's not get started on that!) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 18:33:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29190; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:33:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:33:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000601bf23f6$b99770e0$11ce883e@colins-gear> From: "Colin Seddon" To: Subject: Oberheim Echoplex wanted Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:19:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0220_01BF23F6.59DDD360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"C7gpa.0.h46.RrC7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01BF23F6.59DDD360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bid at the Lycos auction for an Echoplex but lost. Zzounds have one = but don't ship outside the US. Does anyone know of a used Echoplex for sale in Europe (particularly the = UK, where I live)? I get the feeling that most of the Loopers on this list are from the = USA. If any of you folks in the USA have one to sell, what would the = cost of the shipping be? Interesting thing about the auction.........the foot controller sold for = more than the cost of a new one and the echoplex wasn't far off either,=20 Colin ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01BF23F6.59DDD360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I bid at the Lycos auction for an = Echoplex but=20 lost.  Zzounds have one but don't ship outside the US.
Does anyone know of a used Echoplex = for sale in=20 Europe (particularly the UK, where I live)?
I get the feeling that most of the = Loopers on=20 this list are from the USA. If any of you folks in the USA have one to = sell,=20 what would the cost of the shipping be?
 
Interesting thing about the = auction.........the=20 foot controller sold for more than the cost of a new one and the = echoplex wasn't=20 far off either, 
 
Colin
------=_NextPart_000_0220_01BF23F6.59DDD360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 18:33:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29179; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:33:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:33:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000401bf23f6$b7984580$11ce883e@colins-gear> From: "Colin Seddon" To: Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:53:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"kvmDo1.0.x36.OrC7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Saw Ursula Dudziak with 3 other female singers in 1989. She and the other singers made great use of looping. Didn't notice at the time what the gadget was though. -----Original Message----- From: L Tremblay To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: 30 October 1999 20:34 Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson >Before aone else errs in their opinion of when the "little ladies" >will finally get into looping, you might want to pick up a book or >learn how to read. > >Pauline Oliveros created looping as we know it today. >A women. (Gasp!) In 1966, at Mills College. > >Eno knew this, Terry Riley new this. Geesh. > >Larry > >-----Original Message----- >From: pvallad1@tampabay.rr.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:18 PM >Subject: Re: Looping Laurie Anderson > > >>I once watched a concert by a woman from Mills College. She had a velvet >>glove that she wired up herself. It had sensors for each of her fingers. >>It could also sense the distance from another sensor in her belt buckle and >>yet another sensor attached to one of her shoes. This glove was driving a >>gigantic Max patch on her Powerbook which in turn was driving a couple of >>samplers and a synth. She said she built her velvet glove controller >>because she wanted a more feminine alternative to the videogame Powergloves >>(I think by Mattel) that other experimental musicians were using. She >>would perform by making motions with her gloved hand while reciting poetry >>or prose. >> >>I don't know why I didn't ask her when I had the chance her thoughts on the >>male-female ratio in the avant garde music scene. Then again, women were >>always in the minority in all the engineering classes I took in college. >> >>Paolo >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 19:09:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04615; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:09:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:09:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <0.6bbcc027.254e3007@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:51:35 EST Subject: Re: grumpy loopers, genius vs. jerk To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 26 Resent-Message-ID: <"HH5rD.0.a_7._OD7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/31/99 4:02:04 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, tom@swirly.com writes: << Xxxxx interrupted him by yelling "ASSHOLE!" >> did mr. x think this guy was kim?...........:)..........im not sorry......i dont have a sister, and my brother would not be impressed by this group either, but he is not a looper nor does he care of things "looping".......as for myself, i give thanks every day for kim and his wonderful "loop" club.......and dont forget, adolph hitler was a painter........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 21:17:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01021; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:17:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:17:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991031205603.007a9960@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 20:56:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: grumpy loopers In-Reply-To: <000501bf23f6$b88c6980$11ce883e@colins-gear> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"M01fQ3.0.YE7.oEF7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:01 PM 10/31/99 -0000, you wrote: >This is all just missing the point. It's like that old ridiculous argument >that used to say that synthesizers and drum machines were putting musicians >out of business. Uh, what point would that be? Way back when the Mellotron came out, sure, the musicians' unions were pretty ticked off, but unlike the horse-drawn buggy makers' beef with Henry Ford (i.e. newer tech superceding the old), we're not talking about mutually incompatible things. Television may have forced radio to change, but I still don't watch it while driving and, as you point out, synths and drum machines didn't render "real" musicians obsolete. The availability of technology merely increases our options. In my example I was speaking mainly of how annoying it is in an amateur or part-time semi-professional context (most of us, really) to have to cancel or postpone a get-together because the (fill in an instrument) player doesn't show up, or to attempt to carry on with an integral instrument absent. Looping in this regard offers us more possibilities. While many of us may indeed be surly SOB's or self-admittedly pedigreed arseholes, I don't think the main reason we're looping is because we can't play nicely with others, nor is it because we're stingy and want to cut costs. However, the increased flexibility and lower overhead of taking advantage of looping technology and of having fewer people involved are not bad things. And, like I said, it's easier for a smaller group to agree on things. >For example, using loopage , one percussionist in a band could set up some >wicked grooves for other players in the band to jam with. That's what I'll >be using it for when I finally get hold of an Echoplex. Absolutely. That's what I mean when I say technology increases our options. My current situation involves two looping multi-instrumentalists and a percussionist (who's also intrigued by looping, but isn't doing any yet); by mutual agreement, any two of us constitute a quorum capable of playing, as it's largely improvised anyway. Contrast that with a non-looping trio who would either have to cancel or limp by with great holes in their sound. We're not putting anyone out of work; it just allows us to play together a little more often. I haven't even mentioned the obvious point that looping allows our music to develop in directions that wouldn't be possible otherwise, but in a forum such as this one, that's generally understood. >There are of course, times when use of loops gets you around the financial >constraints of a project, like when there's only money for one musician. >But it's not always about lone-loopers vs bands. Agreed, but that wasn't really the point, either. Colin, not only do I respect your opinion, I completely agree with everything you've said, except for that first sentence. For me to have been missing the point as you described it, we'd have needed to have been in disagreement. I wasn't speaking for everybody. I was talking about how difficult it can be for part-time musicians with daytime jobs to synch up their busy lives to play on a regular basis, and how looping helps in this regard; my comments about the profitability of small-time gigs were secondary, as the meager amount of money cited in my example (with a math error, no less! :^I) would indicate! Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 21:52:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08126; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:52:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:52:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381CB5A3.55938691@gis.net> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:33:33 +0100 From: Paul Sullivan Reply-To: paulsull@gis.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: PDS-8000 questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vgY7P2.0.901.YlF7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've just acquired a Digitech PDS-8000 delay pedal without a manual or any instructions. Does anyone on this list know how to use the sampling function? I can only get it to work in the "normal" mode, and in that mode I'm able to record loops, and then speed up/slow down these loops (at last)! I'm just wondering if I'm missing something not being able to use either the trigger mode, (I assume that means triggring from a drum machine or synth, which I dont really need), or the sample mode. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Also the case says that a 10 volt DC neg. ground converter is required, even though it only takes a 9 volt battery. Is it OK to use a 9 volt neg ground AC adaptor? Thanks again, PS From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 22:01:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09984; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:01:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:01:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006001bf2412$bef39930$1e4badce@ltremblay.concentric.net> From: "L Tremblay" To: Subject: Re: Fear of Technology (or Bad Interfaces?) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:42:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"4FMn33.0.GL1.fsF7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is interesting. I feel like a such a Luddite whenever I admit that I've made a conscious decision to sit out the digital revolution, and instead stick with mostly analog equipment, for many of the reasons already mentioned. Primarily it's the human-machine interface and other usability issues that have soured me on new technologies. As a software engineer in the employ of a large multinational I understand the underlying complications - turnover, shareholders, quarterly reports, etc - all these things which are often at cross-purposes with each other, conspiring to deliver low-quality, less-than ideal solutions to the marketplace. However unintended. It's a big problem - even before you factor in competition. >I also think that limitations are, by and large, a good thing. I've got a >box of looping devices (for example) from the last decade or so, and they've >all got problems and they've all got at least one thing that none of the >others will do, and I write and play differently when I use one of them over >the other. I agree. Given this state of affairs, the only thing one *can* do is set limitations - e.g., Eno's notion of working within narrow constraints. Also, at some point enough is enough. Unless there's some very compelling reason to aquire a new toy, then why bother? I like having an intimate knowledge and familiarity with the tools I use for looping - mostly old Digitech RDS boxes, Roland RE-201's, and a dozen or so pedals. But when some things do come along, like the Zoom 2100 or Akai Headrush, which are relatively user-friendly and very useful, I definitely look into them but I'm no longer lusting for the latest gear fix. There's a lot to recommend for the minimal approach. - Larry -----Original Message----- From: Tiktok World HQ To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 8:02 PM Subject: Re: Fear of Technology (or Bad Interfaces?) >I think I know what you mean about hard disk recording, something I've been >rebuffed by numerous times once I start trying to deal with poorly >thought-out interfaces. It's much easier to solve the "mundane" problems of >recording and playing back information (audio or MIDI) than it is to design >a smooth interface. Good ones don't come out of nowhere--they evolve over >years of use and feedback from user to designer. > >Unfortunately, in the digital world there's no "reason" to do anything a >particular way, the turnover at technology companies (particularly in niche >markets like MI) is high, and companies themselves tend to bite the dust or >get absorbed at a ferocious rate...not the sort of thing that results in >time-tested, well-thought out designs. > >I also think that limitations are, by and large, a good thing. I've got a >box of looping devices (for example) from the last decade or so, and they've >all got problems and they've all got at least one thing that none of the >others will do, and I write and play differently when I use one of them over >the other. Over the last few years, I've seen a number of people say that >they preferred the Boomerang to the rackmount loopers because it's a simpler >device. Everything's laid out there in front of you, you don't really need >a manual (they could have almost printed the manual on the back of the >thing), and one level, I know what they mean. I can quickly set up >something with the Boomerang or Headrush, whereas my Echoplexes sit in a big >heavy rack which tends to only get set up at gigs or recording dates, just >because it takes more space and another fifteen minutes or so wire >everything up. > >I'm somewhat embarassed that I bought a MPX G2 a month ago, and I've only >turned it on three times since then. Sounds great, but I open the manual >(well-written, but it's a deep box) and for the first time in fifteen years >of playing with all manner of gadgets, my eyes glaze over, and I end up >going with one of my other setups. > >TH > >---------- >>From: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com >>To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com >>Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #429 >>Date: Sun, Oct 31, 1999, 6:35 PM >> > >> I have a question for everyone. How many here have had to get over (or are >> currently trying to get over) a fear of technology? By this I mean not >> wanting to move on with technology (i.e. computer recording or editing--or >> even something as simple as a slight gear upgrade from pedals to rack gear). >> An example of my own is a reluctance to start working with computer >> recording and editing software. I've just got up the guts to dive into the >> digital recording world of a Rolqand VS880EX, and it's great. It's taken a >> while to work through that learning curve, but it's been worth work and >> drudgery of that Roland manual. However, I am very reluctant to start work >> with a computer editing and recording program. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Oct 31 22:12:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12245; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:12:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:12:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <381D0107.8E9C2202@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:55:03 -0800 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Learning to read References: <0.4a67597d.254e0c73@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4wbdk3.0.X42.-3G7u"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cornhilio's right... I hit the send button on that last message too quickly. I am plainly a sensitive type, wish I wasn't! I could use thicker skin. I'll try to take disagreement a little less seriously next time, promise. Sorry to Larry and all for the bile! Jim Cornhilio2@aol.com wrote: > > hey man both of you and everyone whos fighting just knock it off and learn to > forgive and forget man shit you joined this mailin list to talk to poeple > like your selfs about the one thing that brings you together not to fight > about masterbation