From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 00:09:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA26841; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:09:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:09:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002801bedbd2$445fd9a0$ba71d6d1@micronjenni> From: "Jenni Leeds" To: Subject: Live Real Time Guitar Effects Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:59:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEDBA8.5B0B2BC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"qpTtJ3.0.Z46.vIyet"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEDBA8.5B0B2BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody. Lately I've been searching for certain guitar = sounds that "normal" effects units do not give. I need some information. = Where are some good places to look for new, creative sounds (without = giving away too many free secrets). I'm waiting on a vortex and = echoplex, both on layaway...;)=20 I recently tried out a spacestation. The strings were a cool sound = but the others were kind of lacking. Is a Roland GR-09 what I think? = Some sort of live way of playing samples through one's guitar or string = ensembles...this is more what I'm searching for...like a nice tone = generator controlled by a guitar for sweet, swelling atmospheres.=20 I would love if some of you that are more knowledgeable would share = your knowledge on this subject with us. I'm not officially a looper = until I get my gear...I can't wait. Influenced by Seefeel...for the = longest time I had no idea they created as a guitar, drums, bass outfit. = Wow. And I'm out.... :.... :.... :.... ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEDBA8.5B0B2BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hello=20 everybody. Lately I've been searching for certain guitar sounds that=20 "normal" effects units do not give. I need some information. = Where are=20 some good places to look for new, creative sounds (without giving away = too many=20 free secrets). I'm waiting on a vortex and echoplex, both on = layaway...;)=20
    I=20 recently tried out a spacestation. The strings were a cool sound but the = others=20 were kind of lacking. Is a Roland GR-09 what I think? Some sort of live = way of=20 playing samples through one's guitar or string ensembles...this is more = what I'm=20 searching for...like a nice tone generator controlled by a guitar for = sweet,=20 swelling atmospheres.
    I would=20 love if some of you that are more knowledgeable would share your = knowledge on=20 this subject with us. I'm not officially a looper until I get my = gear...I can't=20 wait. Influenced by Seefeel...for the longest time I had no idea they = created as=20 a guitar, drums, bass outfit. Wow. And I'm out....
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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BEDBA8.5B0B2BC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 00:30:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31446; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:30:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:30:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908010410.AAA31863@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 00:15:59 -0400 Subject: LINE 6 From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3016311359_166212_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <"MpZkd2.0.Xc6.CZyet"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3016311359_166212_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hey kids where can i view a LINE 6 pedal efxs unit? :.... :.... --MS_Mac_OE_3016311359_166212_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable LINE 6
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--MS_Mac_OE_3016311359_166212_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 00:53:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02874; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:53:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:53:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990731213406.013da9c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:34:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: vortex sighting In-Reply-To: <002801bedbd2$445fd9a0$ba71d6d1@micronjenni> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"MzO1I1.0.Bn7.vsyet"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Saw this today. Guitar Showcase in San Jose, Ca has a clean used vortex going for $225. (408)377-2544 http://www.guitarshowcase.com/Consign.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 00:55:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03276; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:55:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:55:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: LINE 6 Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:38:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908010410.AAA31863@smtp6.mindspring.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"iqoVh.0.W8.eyyet"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is where I first spied them ... http://www.harmonycentral.com/Newp/SNAMM99/Line_6/DL4-DM4-MM4.html -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White [mailto:magicicada@mindspring.com] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 12:16 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: LINE 6 hey kids where can i view a LINE 6 pedal efxs unit? :.... :.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 01:02:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA04284; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:02:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 01:02:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000d01bedbd9$05e480c0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: Subject: Re: More Roland VS info Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:47:54 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"GATys3.0.WW.N4zet"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >> It's confusing because it mentions that if you want > >> to do 24-bit 44.1 khz compressionless recording, you're > >> limited to 8/4 tracks. The other option is 16-bit (which > >> allows 16/8 tracks) but it doesn't say whether or not > >> 16-bit mode is compressionless or what the sample rate is. > There's a couple of issues with this. First, the Roland VS has (4) modes it > can record in; LIV, MT2, MT1, and MAS, from lowest quality to highest. In > all modes, some sort of compression algorithm is used by the VS to get the > data on the hard drive called MDAC, which is a proprietary algorithm > developed by Roland. What's MAS? Mastering mode? This has the compression on it too? What about MT Pro? That's 24-bits but it still uses compression? > I don't know the specifics and there is much confusion > as to how MDAC really works and how it integrates with the on-board 20-bit > AD converters, and how "lossy" this algorithm really is. Since most of what > I record is bound for CD, which is a 16-bit format, I use the MT1 format > which is suppose to be a 20-bit format for editing to compromise between > sound quality and hard drive savings. To me, I've never like ADAT and I > could always hear a loss of quality. Plus, why should I have to wait for the > tape to cue up all the time ... hard drives are the way to go in my book. My question was about the D16 but thanks for explaining the VS16. But I thought the ADAT was compressionless. Isn't it 8 tracks of digital audio data on essentially a high-quality VHS tape? Yes, I love HD recording over the rewind-and-play thing. > >> Plus I didn't find anything about a tuner or a drum machine > >> built in, and the only built-in effect seems to be basically > >> preamp modeling. > On the Harmony Central press ad, they specifically mention a integrated drum > machine and chromatic tuner. Yeah, it's nowhere on the official site. Either that or I missed it. I did pore through all the specs pretty thoroughly looking for just those features. > >> Doug, how is the sound quality? > I'm not going to run the whole digital vs. analog argument. That's what > rec.pro.audio is for, but for my purposes, it works great. The portability > factor was the decisionary factor for me. I also found that the input > preamps don't offer much headroom, so it's better to use a better outboard > preamp and possibly compression to help control signal spikes. I use a > Mackie board and a Presonus or Mindprint compressor which do a great job for > the $$$$ So you're saying the quality is good enough to cut CDs, eh? I don't need an Anita Baker Million Dollar Jazz Paradise quality sound, but I don't want a shlocky, canny CD that sounds like an old Misfits bootleg recorded onto a microcassette stuffed in some stoner's pocket either. > >> Does anyone have any experience with other 16-track portable HD > recorders? > I don't know if any really exist other than the Roland. Maybe the Akai > DPS12? Yeah, I'm seriously looking into that to upgrade my DR8 because I hear that it sports compressionless, pure digital data, like my DR8. However it's only four more tracks than what I'm using. But it is much lighter. I love my DR8 but it weighs about 7 gazillion pounds. It's like an HD recorder from the Flinstones. > >> Does anyone use their computer as a multitrack recorder and if so, how > many > >> tracks, and what do you think the minimum specs for the computer would > have to > >> be? > The biggest issue with computer based recording is disk I/O. I would > recommend getting a Ultra2 SCSI drive subsystem with a quality hard drive > such as the IBM Ultrastar or Seagate Cheetah drives. As always, put your OS > on a separate partition from the drive you are actually recording on. If you > are running Windows NT, split the memory page file across the drives as > well. I use this type of setup with Cakewalk 8.0, but I'm switching over > Logic Audio 4.0 since it integrates with the VS-1680. A five minute song on 16 tracks would be like 80 track minutes, which would be equal to 40 stereo minutes. A forty-minute CD quality stereo 16-bit 44.1 khz WAV file would be what? Something like 400 megabytes? Is that how much RAM I would need? I only have 256 megs. > Also, if you are buying a new PC (please don't flame me on the MAC vs. PC > issue), wait until after September 5th when Intel is announcing their new > i820 chipset which will introduce 133Mhz back plane for PCs and AGP 4x for > video. It will either lower the price of the machine you want today, or give > you a new hardware standard to but into. Hey, I've used both Macs and PCs and I love 'em! I would never start a flame war over something so frivolous. Now on the other hand, if this was a tastes great vs. less filling argument, or the Kraft Macaroni & Cheese vs. the Kraft Cheese & Macaroni argument... This is like way off the topic but thanks again. Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 07:39:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA04063; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:39:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:39:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001f01bedc0e$d6537880$39c88018@ne.mediaone.net> From: "rj lamphear" To: References: <000d01bedbd9$05e480c0$02585858@timspc> Subject: Re: More Roland VS info Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:13:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"fYPr-1.0.pc.Ao2ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > So you're saying the quality is good enough to cut CDs, eh? I don't need an > Anita Baker Million Dollar Jazz Paradise quality sound, but I don't want a > shlocky, canny CD that sounds like an old Misfits bootleg recorded onto a > microcassette stuffed in some stoner's pocket either. Hi, VS-1680 user here. The 1680 is definitely good enough to make CDs on. If you'd like an example of what it can do, check out Victor Wooten's (bassist for Bela Fleck Flecktones) new solo CD, "Yin Yang". It was recorded and mixed completely on the 1680 and its internal effects card. I've heard a lot of great sounding semi pro and amateur work done on the VS but this is the first "major" artist I'm aware of who has released VS tracks. Personally, I love the VS platform. It's stable, portable, easy to use once you have a little practice, and sounds great. rj lamphear From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 12:20:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26889; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:20:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:20:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990801155328.95806.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.137.198] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live Real Time Guitar Effects Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 08:53:28 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"bwCMI1.0.Z76.-s6ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Jenni, I'm papa dave in Santa Cruz,Calif.I use a Roland GR 30 guitar synth,and a Roland GT5 for guitar sounds I also midi thru a roland D50 keyboard and use these sounds.Loop with a echoplex,jamman and boomerang,and vortex thru a lexicon Lxp 1..It gets to be a bit much at times with all the manuels and routing but it's a nice problem to have.It's like you can have whatever sounds you want with the $ to get them.Research at music stores and ask lots of questions and play stuff til it rings your bell.Hope that helps,papadave55@hotmail.com >From: "Jenni Leeds" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: Live Real Time Guitar Effects >Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:59:34 -0500 > > Hello everybody. Lately I've been searching for certain guitar sounds >that "normal" effects units do not give. I need some information. Where are >some good places to look for new, creative sounds (without giving away too >many free secrets). I'm waiting on a vortex and echoplex, both on >layaway...;) > I recently tried out a spacestation. The strings were a cool sound but >the others were kind of lacking. Is a Roland GR-09 what I think? Some sort >of live way of playing samples through one's guitar or string >ensembles...this is more what I'm searching for...like a nice tone >generator controlled by a guitar for sweet, swelling atmospheres. > I would love if some of you that are more knowledgeable would share >your knowledge on this subject with us. I'm not officially a looper until I >get my gear...I can't wait. Influenced by Seefeel...for the longest time I >had no idea they created as a guitar, drums, bass outfit. Wow. And I'm >out.... > :.... > :.... > :.... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 12:32:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27792; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:32:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:32:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014501bedc39$2350d860$372a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Jenni Leeds" , Subject: Re: Live Real Time Guitar Effects Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:11:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01BEDC16.FC84B7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"GGIYg1.0.ZV6.bB7ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01BEDC16.FC84B7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jenni Leeds wrote: Hello everybody. Lately I've been searching for certain guitar = sounds that "normal" effects units do not give. I need some information. = Where are some good places to look for new, creative sounds (without = giving away too many free secrets). I'm waiting on a vortex and = echoplex, both on layaway...;)=20 =20 And that's a higher priced spread than I've ever owned, so I may not = be the one to comment appropriately, but... =20 I recently tried out a spacestation. The strings were a cool = sound but the others were kind of lacking. Is a Roland GR-09 what I = think? Some sort of live way of playing samples through one's guitar or = string ensembles...this is more what I'm searching for...like a nice = tone generator controlled by a guitar for sweet, swelling atmospheres. =20 A tone generator controlled by a guitar is probably a MIDI guitar, = eh? I personally prefer using analog effects to "imitate" other timbres, = like rolling the tone back, addind distortion and doing volume swells to = get string sounds. Found a great flutey sound with just a Microverb and = a Whammy pedal yesterday. =20 I would love if some of you that are more knowledgeable would = share your knowledge on this subject with us. I'm not officially a = looper until I get my gear...I can't wait. Influenced by Seefeel...for = the longest time I had no idea they created as a guitar, drums, bass = outfit. Wow. And I'm out.... =20 Who is Seefeel? I'd love to check them out. Feel free to point = towards others who get something like the sound you're looking for, and = I'll bet many of us will dive in with our inflated two-cent's worth. :.... :.... = :.... ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01BEDC16.FC84B7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jenni = Leeds=20 wrote:
    Hello=20 everybody. Lately I've been searching for certain guitar sounds that = "normal" effects units do not give. I need some = information. Where=20 are some good places to look for new, creative sounds (without = giving away=20 too many free secrets). I'm waiting on a vortex and echoplex, both = on=20 layaway...;)
 
And that's a = higher priced=20 spread than I've ever owned, so I may not be the one to comment=20 appropriately, but...
 
    I=20 recently tried out a spacestation. The strings were a cool sound but = the=20 others were kind of lacking. Is a Roland GR-09 what I think? Some = sort of=20 live way of playing samples through one's guitar or string = ensembles...this=20 is more what I'm searching for...like a nice tone generator = controlled by a=20 guitar for sweet, swelling atmospheres.
 
A tone generator controlled by a guitar = is probably=20 a MIDI guitar, eh? I personally prefer using analog effects to=20 "imitate" other timbres, like rolling the tone back, = addind=20 distortion and doing volume swells to get string sounds. Found a = great=20 flutey sound with just a Microverb and a Whammy pedal=20 yesterday.
 
    I=20 would love if some of you that are more knowledgeable would share = your=20 knowledge on this subject with us. I'm not officially a looper until = I get=20 my gear...I can't wait. Influenced by Seefeel...for the longest time = I had=20 no idea they created as a guitar, drums, bass outfit. Wow. And I'm=20 out....
 
Who is Seefeel? I'd = love to check=20 them out. Feel free to point towards others who get something like = the sound=20 you're looking for, and I'll bet many of us will dive in with our = inflated=20 two-cent's worth.
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------=_NextPart_000_0135_01BEDC16.FC84B7A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 13:08:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31426; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:08:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:08:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A47AE4.8107C89C@home.com> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 09:50:44 -0700 From: Neil Goldstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: vortex sighting References: <3.0.5.32.19990731213406.013da9c0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9EFB1243E763A94CF2E8B433" Resent-Message-ID: <"OlJDW2.0.wJ7.Ci7ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------9EFB1243E763A94CF2E8B433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean wrote: > Saw this today. Guitar Showcase in San Jose, Ca has a clean used vortex > going for $225. > > (408)377-2544 > > http://www.guitarshowcase.com/Consign.htm Amazing to remember that I, and probably several others on this list, got theirs when Guitar Center was blowing out new units for $150 a few years ago. -- Neil Goldstein ngold@home.com Portland, Oregon USA My Music on MP3.com --------------9EFB1243E763A94CF2E8B433 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean wrote:
Saw this today.  Guitar Showcase in San Jose, Ca has a clean used vortex
going for $225.

(408)377-2544

http://www.guitarshowcase.com/Consign.htm


Amazing to remember that I, and probably several others on this list, got theirs when Guitar Center was blowing out new units for $150 a few years ago.

--
Neil Goldstein
ngold@home.com
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  --------------9EFB1243E763A94CF2E8B433-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 16:46:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18157; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:46:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:46:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bedc55$afa35380$395bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: Subject: Whammy. Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:40:16 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"7oAMy.0.Ix2.w6Aft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear loopers: 1) Somebody selling a Whammy? 2) I need the price of the Roland GR 50 (without the GK 2). Thanks in advance and good health!!! Julio From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 17:01:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19637; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:01:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:01:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A4A51E.496B@voicenet.com> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 15:50:54 -0400 From: Charles Cohen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: re: Continuous Control Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wgXyk.0.MG3.ULAft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Seems that there should be something out there that would allow me to plug in a big 'ol > bunch of volume pedals into one device Rolls RFX PM1288 MIDI Wizzard: 8 pedal inputs $200 http://www.rolls.com/new/mp1288.html got one, like it (all Rolls RFX stuff I've gotten seems like good value) charles -- **** What's Charles up to? **** http://www.voicenet.com/~ccohen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 17:15:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21013; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:15:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:15:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A4A7A5.363482FF@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 16:01:42 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #306 References: <199908010708.DAA17011@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Dn-TZ.0.sU3.iVAft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just bought a Roland VS 880 EX and will be spending a little time with it over the next couple of weeks so I will let you know what I find. I can tell you that both the 880 and the 1680 record 8 tracks simultaneously and the 880 comes with built in effects. This plus the fact that with the 8 track and a good DAT player you can bounce and record ad infinitum. It seems that with the added costs the 1680 is not as spectacular as I once thought. I was planning on buying it in the first place. --- David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 17:53:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24627; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:53:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:53:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <809aa05f.24d60b48@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:42:48 EDT Subject: Re: Live Real Time Guitar Effects To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"Yp7Ce.0.6O4.M6Bft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/1/99 3:09:05 AM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, jennil@bellsouth.net writes: << I'm not officially a looper until I get my gear >> wow.......i never read this in the rule book..........:).........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 18:01:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25466; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:01:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:01:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907300134.VAA00384@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:49:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: active/passive volume & controller pedal Resent-Message-ID: <"61GCa.0.rp5.K_Bft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi - one more question for the collective musical overmind known as Loopers-Delight. well, maybe 3. What is the difference between a passive and active volume pedal. I heard one goes before effects and one after, or somethign like that, but the passive one is described in Musician's Friend as if it is only meant for keyboard. Does a volume pedal work as a controller/expression pedal generally, or is that a separate thing altogether (and in which case why do I never see any in the catalogs). I need a controller for midi parameter change with my QV GT. third, and final (for now) question - anyone recommend a nice stageworthy tuner. Is that boss pedal tuner any good? Thanks, MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 18:50:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA30427; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:50:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:50:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:16:45 -0700 Message-ID: <00001A7C.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: Live Real Time Guitar Effects To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com, papadave55@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"pFOaj3.0.Lh6.VXCft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To whoever started this thread as well as the rest of you real time effects freaks... Here's a couple of my favorite conventional (non-Vortex) dsp tricks. One is a cloud looper to stay on topic. The other is a doppler flange/delay. Both are non tempo specific. This assumes you have some form of programmable midi controller, or non programmable but with several preset cc controller sockets like the Roland FC-200 with it's dedicated pedal inputs. Being able to set specific value ranges and reverse scaling is pretty important to fine tuning this sort of patch. I use an old Digitech PMC-10 midi floor controller (As does Kim) and you'll sometimes hear us sing the praises of this unit. The only other units curretly in production which do this sort of thing well are the Rocktron All Acess and possibly the Custom Audio Electronics RSB 10, although they've got their own ideas about how you will set your stuff up. they're both pretty pricey as well... I don't know how deep the Roland FC-200 pedal goes, but it's dedicated pedal inputs on the back (6 or 8?) could allow for some nice tweaking assuming you can select the channel they transmit over (hopefully being able to program them to send on different channels). Someone just mentioned the Rolls Midi Wizard allows for a lot of pedal inputs... don't know how programmable it is though with the cc's. There's a new breed of controllers like the Korg KAOS and Phatman which allow some fun looking hands-on creative tweaking of cc params, but I'm not sure you can do much with them using your feet... Many dsps (Digitech IPS33b and Lexicon LXP15) have dedicated pedal inputs on the rear of the units making this type of patching really easy. Of course you need an expression pedal like the Boss/Roland EV5... My Boss GT-5 is especially nice for this sort of thing as well although they mysteriously don't have a patch available for delay input level! Curses for this!!! Trick number 1. Patch a cc (continuous controller) to the delay time... you can set narrow limits (1ms - 20ms) with fairly high feedback for real time flange sort of effects. Or wide sweeps (1ms - 500ms) for wild doppler type effects... on these I usually also patch to delay output level AND feedback or regen to balance the short delay runaway sounds with the longer delays with lower regen rates. My most usefull versions usually have a longer delay with a few repeats and lower delay level for a fairly friendly conventional delay which turns into a scary near-runaway death flange in a drainpipe. Slightly moving the pedal gives some faux lfo type action to whatever range your in... theres often many useful points along the way with these patches as well. Sneaking a pedal movement in while pausing allows you to change delays/sounds without the doppler action... Number 2. For looping or cloud like pads, use a long delay with high regen, patch a cc to delay input level and swell notes into the delay momentarily... you can back off and still play around the new cloud. The trick is to have another reverse scaled cc patched to regen on the same pedal and have it back the regen off slightly as you pedal in a new note. I always have a volume pedal inserted between my main guitar signal and the dsp so I can do smooth swells with my main signal as well as the midi cc swells. If your unit can patch a LFO to a parameter like delay time, panning, etc. then be controlled with another patch varying the LFO speed or depth, then you can get really wild with what happens to the cloud AFTER you've swelled in a note... Usually two expeds are a basic requirement for getting complex with multiple mutations... Then you could have a pitch shift which mutates the whole mess as well... It's amazing how different these types of patches sound with various distortions and clean sounds. You'll probably find that certain types will work better with your creation than others... Knowing what your starting sound is sometimes helps guide you in your param tweaking. Good luck and have fun! -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 21:09:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12851; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:09:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:09:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908020052.UAA21679@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 20:58:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Live Real Time Guitar Effects From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8z4q33.0.rc2.olEft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone have a 4trak minidisk for sale? thanks c.white ---------- >From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com, papadave55@hotmail.com >Subject: Re[2]: Live Real Time Guitar Effects >Date: Sun, Aug 1, 1999, 6:16 PM > > To whoever started this thread as well as the rest of you real time > effects freaks... > > Here's a couple of my favorite conventional (non-Vortex) dsp tricks. > One is a cloud looper to stay on topic. The other is a doppler > flange/delay. Both are non tempo specific. > > This assumes you have some form of programmable midi controller, or > non programmable but with several preset cc controller sockets like > the Roland FC-200 with it's dedicated pedal inputs. Being able to set > specific value ranges and reverse scaling is pretty important to fine > tuning this sort of patch. I use an old Digitech PMC-10 midi floor > controller (As does Kim) and you'll sometimes hear us sing the praises > of this unit. The only other units curretly in production which do > this sort of thing well are the Rocktron All Acess and possibly the > Custom Audio Electronics RSB 10, although they've got their own ideas > about how you will set your stuff up. they're both pretty pricey as > well... I don't know how deep the Roland FC-200 pedal goes, but it's > dedicated pedal inputs on the back (6 or 8?) could allow for some nice > tweaking assuming you can select the channel they transmit over > (hopefully being able to program them to send on different channels). > Someone just mentioned the Rolls Midi Wizard allows for a lot of pedal > inputs... don't know how programmable it is though with the cc's. > There's a new breed of controllers like the Korg KAOS and Phatman > which allow some fun looking hands-on creative tweaking of cc params, > but I'm not sure you can do much with them using your feet... > > Many dsps (Digitech IPS33b and Lexicon LXP15) have dedicated pedal > inputs on the rear of the units making this type of patching really > easy. Of course you need an expression pedal like the Boss/Roland > EV5... My Boss GT-5 is especially nice for this sort of thing as well > although they mysteriously don't have a patch available for delay > input level! Curses for this!!! > > Trick number 1. Patch a cc (continuous controller) to the delay > time... you can set narrow limits (1ms - 20ms) with fairly high > feedback for real time flange sort of effects. Or wide sweeps (1ms - > 500ms) for wild doppler type effects... on these I usually also patch > to delay output level AND feedback or regen to balance the short delay > runaway sounds with the longer delays with lower regen rates. My most > usefull versions usually have a longer delay with a few repeats and > lower delay level for a fairly friendly conventional delay which turns > into a scary near-runaway death flange in a drainpipe. Slightly moving > the pedal gives some faux lfo type action to whatever range your in... > theres often many useful points along the way with these patches as > well. Sneaking a pedal movement in while pausing allows you to change > delays/sounds without the doppler action... > > Number 2. For looping or cloud like pads, use a long delay with high > regen, patch a cc to delay input level and swell notes into the delay > momentarily... you can back off and still play around the new cloud. > The trick is to have another reverse scaled cc patched to regen on the > same pedal and have it back the regen off slightly as you pedal in a > new note. I always have a volume pedal inserted between my main guitar > signal and the dsp so I can do smooth swells with my main signal as > well as the midi cc swells. If your unit can patch a LFO to a > parameter like delay time, panning, etc. then be controlled with > another patch varying the LFO speed or depth, then you can get really > wild with what happens to the cloud AFTER you've swelled in a note... > Usually two expeds are a basic requirement for getting complex with > multiple mutations... Then you could have a pitch shift which mutates > the whole mess as well... > > It's amazing how different these types of patches sound with various > distortions and clean sounds. You'll probably find that certain types > will work better with your creation than others... Knowing what your > starting sound is sometimes helps guide you in your param tweaking. > > Good luck and have fun! > -Miko > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 21:20:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13896; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:20:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:20:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990802010312.7419.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 18:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: robert kolosowski Subject: hum To: loopers -delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"wUfpc.0.3_2.WwEft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Any advice on this problem .. My Echoplex seems to be inducing hum into my effects processor (zoom 9020) which I have mounted above it in my rack. If I completely disconnect the EP from the mains the hum stops, if it's connected ,even though it may be turned off it still causes hum thru the effects. Is it an earth loop thang ? I'm on 240v here if that makes a diff .. any suggestions ? thanks, Robert _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 21:24:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA14477; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:24:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:24:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:07:03 EDT Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controller pedal To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"grqJz2.0.e73.7-Eft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey there, Michael, The first majour difference betwixt active and passive volume pedals will be the active pedals all use some form of power supply in order to add a bit of amplification to the line level, whereas a passive volume pedal won't. A better analogy would be a passive volume pedal would act more like the volume control on your guitar, whereas the active would be a little bit more like the volume control on your pre-amp. I understand that this isn't totally 100% on the ball as far as how they work internally, but this is just the quick explanation for it. Personally, I prefer the passive volume controls and use one both at the begainning of the effects loop and at the end (should I have the spare). This has more to do with using line level effects in my effects loop and also because I'd rather not deal with something loosing it's battery on me during a gig... Been there once and didn't have a spare... As far as I can tell you there are a few differences betwixt a volume pedal and an expression pedal, mostly having to do with one is a mono or pair of mono inputs, and the other is going to be at least a single stereo 1/4" and maybe some mono inputs, too. The latter pedal will control more than just the overall volume of an effect or keyboard, and really matters upon pre-programming and effects/voices being run. Typically, I tend to set mine to velocities and frequencies of the voice. Just makes things easier from a playing stand point. Your last question, I really can't answer off the top of my head, ... typically I'm the only one on stage, and I tend to use the tuner that is in either my Zoom 2100 or a Korg DT-1... Now that I have a GR-30, I'll probably be using it instead. One thing you may want to look for in a tuner is something that is rack mountable and bypassible. Hope this helps out. Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 1 22:35:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22217; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:35:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:35:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 22:23:27 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controller pedal Resent-Message-ID: <"H9Z2f.0.Xz4.d0Gft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a point of interest to me because I've always experienced difficulties with volume pedals, and as far as guitar work, it's a very important part of the chain. I've had DeArmond and Boss "passive" pedals, which are just a pot in a box, and almost immediately they become scratchy and I always feel the bottom end is never quite "off". Much better results with a Boss ME-8 I had where I could use a pedal as control input to electronic volume control, but in a stand-alone pedal I don't know what would be acceptable. I've thought about Morleys but have never tried one. Right now I have a CEM chip based VCA I built which I control via pedal and it is beautiful; the only problem is that the VCA is part of a clunky older thang I built some time ago and wish I just had the VCA in a little box; don't know whether to build a new one, or find an "active" pedal. Does anyone have a recommendation? "Passive" pedals are simply out of the question, in my experience.... David Myers >Hey there, Michael, > > The first majour difference betwixt active and passive volume pedals will >be the active pedals all use some form of power supply in order to add a bit >of amplification to the line level, whereas a passive volume pedal won't. A >better analogy would be a passive volume pedal would act more like the volume >control on your guitar, whereas the active would be a little bit more like >the volume control on your pre-amp. > > I understand that this isn't totally 100% on the ball as far as how they >work internally, but this is just the quick explanation for it. Personally, >I prefer the passive volume controls and use one both at the begainning of >the effects loop and at the end (should I have the spare). This has more to >do with using line level effects in my effects loop and also because I'd >rather not deal with something loosing it's battery on me during a gig... >Been there once and didn't have a spare... > > As far as I can tell you there are a few differences betwixt a volume >pedal and an expression pedal, mostly having to do with one is a mono or pair >of mono inputs, and the other is going to be at least a single stereo 1/4" >and maybe some mono inputs, too. The latter pedal will control more than >just the overall volume of an effect or keyboard, and really matters upon >pre-programming and effects/voices being run. Typically, I tend to set mine >to velocities and frequencies of the voice. Just makes things easier from a >playing stand point. > > Your last question, I really can't answer off the top of my head, ... >typically I'm the only one on stage, and I tend to use the tuner that is in >either my Zoom 2100 or a Korg DT-1... Now that I have a GR-30, I'll probably >be using it instead. One thing you may want to look for in a tuner is >something that is rack mountable and bypassible. Hope this helps out. > > Tchus, > > Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 00:34:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08698; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:34:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:34:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: active/passive volume & controller pedal Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 00:12:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PsgKG2.0.zP.pgHft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To control the volume of my Roland M-GS64, via my Roland GI-10 guitar/midi interface, I use a standard passive Ernie Ball pedal to send midi volume messages (I have to use an insert cable for this to work, a stereo plug into the back of the GI-10's 'expression' pedal input, and one of the other ends into the iinput of the pedal, and one into the output). I can also use the Ernie Ball pedal fro CC messages if plugged into my Ground COntrol (just a regular cable is needed, plugged into the volume pedal's output). If the Ernie Ball pedals work with your gear, I recommend them, since they are built really well, and look like they can withstand just about anything. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave   'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > thang I built some time ago and wish I just had the VCA in a little box; > don't know whether to build a new one, or find an "active" pedal. Does > anyone have a recommendation? "Passive" pedals are simply out of the > question, in my experience.... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 07:57:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11244; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:57:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:57:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: dinamic1-241.drago.net [195.76.196.241] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990802135653.006a5e98@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:56:53 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, stickwire-l@netcom.com, taptalk@progrock.net From: RBT Subject: FS: effects Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id HAA10789 Resent-Message-ID: <"pO3u.0.2f2.zPOft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all ! i have these two machines in perfect condition that i wanted to sell. if somebody is interested, e-mail me privately. rauboto@dragonet.es sorry for the non-related content to the list thanks ! RBT ========================================= * Digitech TSR-12 studio reverb/multieffects stereo input / output, dual chorus, flangers, pitch shiter, reverbs, phaser, delays, sampler, ... = $ 180 / DM 325 * Digitech XP-100 whammy / wah / volume harmonizing functions , autowahs, ... = $ 135 / DM 245 ======================================= //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Raül Bonell Tomàs http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 09:23:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19506; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:23:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:23:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A598FF.A5F72163@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:11:27 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #308 References: <199908020832.EAA30363@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hs82_2.0.UQ4.jbPft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have used both passive and active volume pedals and have not really experienced any problems with either. I use both the Ernie Ball passive pedal and a Morley active pedal. I find the Morley is more useful to me because it has a wah wah and distortion added to it. The PDW a fine unit! David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 10:27:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27638; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:27:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:27:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908021419.HAA49298@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:19:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Continuous Control From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3016430371_13908560_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <"G1Y723.0.QV6.UaQft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3016430371_13908560_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It sounds like you're missing about 18 feet and $900 worth of volume pedals. Plus, another six feet of floor space to deploy all of hardware. Wouldn't it be easier to use a conventional MIDI controller with two CC pedals built in, and use the switches to change what parameter was assigned to each CC pedal? TH ---------- From: Elaine Walters To: Loopers Delight Subject: Continuous Control Date: Sat, Jul 31, 1999, 1:57 AM All of the MIDI footcontrollers I've ever seen have two inputs for volume pedals?? Why two?? Damnit I want to have twenty volume/expression pedals on the floor in front of me. Each one linked to different parameters on all my various toys (via this cool, imaginary device). What am I missing here?? I have a feeling the answer is so simple that I'm going to look very foolish. --MS_Mac_OE_3016430371_13908560_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Continuous Control It sounds like you're missing about 18 feet and $900 worth of volume pedals= .  Plus, another six feet of floor space to deploy all of hardware. &nb= sp;Wouldn't it be easier to use a conventional MIDI controller with two CC p= edals built in, and use the switches to change what parameter was assigned t= o each CC pedal?

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From: Elaine Walters <ew37@bellsouth.net>
To: Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Continuous Control
Date: Sat, Jul 31, 1999, 1:57 AM


All of the MIDI footcontrollers I've ever seen h= ave two inputs for volume pedals??  Why two??  Damnit I want to ha= ve twenty volume/expression pedals on the floor in front of me.  Each o= ne linked to different parameters on all my various toys (via this cool, ima= ginary device).  What am I missing here??  I have a feeling the an= swer is so simple that I'm going to look very foolish.
--MS_Mac_OE_3016430371_13908560_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 10:47:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32481; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:47:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:47:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:39:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: VS Series for Recording Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"kF87u.0.ec7.5uQft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oh, absolutely the VS series is good enough to make a CD master with. Besides the Wooten CD, I also have a VS-840 that I've done several projects on and it's easily the best sounding piece of audio gear in my possession, and that's saying something. The CDs I've created on this thing sound really good. In fact, there are some projects I've done that sound better than major label releases (in terms of audio quality). The COSM effects are actually amazingly good - don't knock the VS units until you try one. The built-in guitar preamp is really nice - I could take this thing on vacation with me with just an electric guitar, cable and drum machine and I could do a full album with just that instrumentation alone. The limitation? The 840 uses ZIP disks. The first units used the 100 meg zip disks. The new 840s have the 250 meg zip drive - I'm going to see if I can upgrade since that's the only part of the unit I with was better - the earlier units are kind of limited on recording time (you can do an eight track project of 6-7 minutes duration, but that will fill the disk using the best sounding fidelity). Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 16:04:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17538; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:04:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:04:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:53:37 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Roland VS Range / Akai Headrush References: <001f01bedc0e$d6537880$39c88018@ne.mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: <001f01bedc0e$d6537880$39c88018@ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Resent-Message-ID: <"MoczT3.0.T24._YVft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi, VS-1680 user here. The 1680 is definitely good enough to make CDs on. >Personally, I love the VS platform. It's stable, portable, easy to use once >you have a little practice, and sounds great. > >rj lamphear Hi Folks, I would also endorse Roland's VS range of recorders. I own a VS-840, which despite being the baby of this 'virtual' family is a powerful tool featuring excellent on-board effects, enough to satisfy this Looper's thirst for sonic possibilities. I can easily achieve professional results with this unit, which stand up well against most 'professional' CDs. On a different note, I finally took delivery of my Headrush pedal last week (the first UK batch!) Not too much to add to the previous comments & reviews at this time, however I can report that I have not experienced any audible clicks as had previously been discussed on this list :-) Cheers, Lee Fletcher From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 15:41:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA13661; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:41:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:41:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A5EFED.6940034@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:22:23 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: Gigs week of 8/2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"W6IS81.0.Fa2.-_Uft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com KEEP INDEPENDENT MUSIC ALIVE-SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC!!! I just thought some of you in the NY area might be interested in the following shows over the next couple of weeks. I hope to see some of you there! August 8th-"Precious Meddle" David C Gross-6 string fretless bass, electronics, loops John Macaluso-drums Peter Hess-saxes There will be a special guest appearance from saxist/poet Elliot Levin This is what happens when Albert Ayler plays with AC/DC THEORCOLUS™ LIVE Charles Burnham-violin David C Gross-6 string fretless bass, electronics, loops Peter Hess-sax,flute, bass clarinet Toby Kasavan-keys John Macaluso-drums Ravish Momin-percussion August 5th: The Hopper House Nyack NY 7:30 PM August 12th:Dharma-Orchard St.. NYC 9 PM Regards, David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 16:31:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10161; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:45:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:45:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:35:26 EDT Subject: Re: Volume pedals To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"c6eOJ3.0.BB2.GiRft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/2/99 7:12:55 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com writes: << This is a point of interest to me because I've always experienced difficulties with volume pedals, and as far as guitar work, it's a very important part of the chain. >> I've had really good luck with the Visual Sound volume pedal. It goes all the way to zero on the low end and feels pretty transparent as far as how it affects your tone. The lights on the side are an added bonus I sometimes use and sometimes not, depending on the gig, but even without them I couldn't recommend it more highly. This from a once-frustrated ex-Ernie Ball/Boss/Morley/Rolls user.... Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 16:47:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22739; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:21:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:21:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990802170214.2510.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:02:14 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controll To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"W4ckm2.0.175.y2Tft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey - thanks to everyone for the input so far. I've heard good things about the Ernie Ball pedals, but they are relatively huge, and the same goes for the Morleys, which makes me reluctant to use them. With a Wah and a huge volume, I don't have a hell of a lot of room left on my pedalboard (not that I need much, but one never knows...). I've thought about getting a wah/volume combo, which would solve the size/weight issue, but that seems like it might be a drag somehow - if anyone has used these, I would love to hear what they think of them. It sounds like I want a passive pedal, although one person has weighed in heavily against them. The reason I say that is because a) I'm not sure I really want to deal with the power issue, and b) it seems to me that an active pedal will add some noise to the whole signal path, which I could do without (the downside of using a used effect rack from the 80's). I was thinking of the boss pedal, which is nice and skinny (and looks cool), but someone bagged them, so I'll look around. I'd be curious to see what people think of the following : http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Articles/Avoiding_GAS/Part-6.html It's an article about "Assembling a Professional Pedalboard". It has become my default reference since it is very difficult to find books and info on this stuff. My setup is different in that a QV GT is handling most of the effects at this point, but the multiple signal paths - one with tuner - seems like a very sensible setup to me... Any books or other additional references would be appreciated. It doesn't help with the controller issue though. The delay trick someone described is just the type of thing I'm looking to play with. As a last point of my very long message here, I'd like to cast my vote for the QV GT or similar rack effects unit as a very viable option to get "unusual" guitar tones, and at a great cost. I picked this unit up used for $225, and, although I'm beginning to suspect the meter lights don't work reliably, I've been able to get some very odd sounds indeed with various combos of ring mod, distortion, delay, pitch detuning, etc. My feeling is that a lot of people are probably not really motivated to delve into messing with the settings on these units, but I know it will be a while (and an education) before I feel like I've hit the ceiling on the range of possible sounds. MT === ************************************************************* This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. Thanks. ************************************************************* _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 16:46:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25990; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:40:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:40:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990802173109.95861.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.244.225.241] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:Realtime Control Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 10:31:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"8g-cB2.0.z-5.dOTft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com One warning with the Ernie Ball, (not that they aren't great) thir travel is a bit inconsistent (all the way up might = 126 cc#) to prevent inaccurate tweaking I recommend that when calibrating the pedal range you leave the pedal a bit south of max and a bit north of min. Speaking of MIDI realtime, I'm introducing a friend to the joys of CC (the reason I bought a MultiFX device in the first place) and he has lost the manual to his ART SGX T-2. Does anyone know where the manual might be found on the net? One more thing can anyone recommend any good freeware VST amp sim pluggins? Thanks, Sean _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 16:47:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25217; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:36:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:36:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908021727.KAA50214@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 12:27:06 -0500 Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controll From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"swGge1.0.Lp5.YKTft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Passive or active volume pedals will affect your sound. I'd suggest trying one of the pedals under consideration and seeing which effect is preferable. My experience is that the Visual Volume (not an active pedal--the power supply is for the LED display only) has the least coloration of signal, but that may not be what you want if you're accustomed to standard volume pots, which tend to attentuate the highs as volume is decreased. TH -- Tiktok: Austin's Premier One-Man Ambient Band http://home.sprintmail.com/~tiktok/ ---------- >From: M T >To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controll >Date: Mon, Aug 2, 1999, 12:02 PM > > > It sounds like I want a passive pedal, although one person has weighed > in heavily against them. The reason I say that is because a) I'm not > sure I really want to deal with the power issue, and b) it seems to me > that an active pedal will add some noise to the whole signal path, > which I could do without (the downside of using a used effect rack from > the 80's). I was thinking of the boss pedal, which is nice and skinny > (and looks cool), but someone bagged them, so I'll look around. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 17:22:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA29431; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:22:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:22:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990802155231.0085a440@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:52:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: active/passive volume & control In-Reply-To: <19990802170214.2510.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"su6PT3.0.GN6.nPWft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MT, I haven't fully read all the messages re: the volume pedal, so I'm sorry if this has been said before. But reading your last "summary" of what you're thinking to date, a couple thoughts occurred to me: All plastic pedals I've ever used are awkward, including those that I've tried that are part of multi-effects units, wah wahs, etc. The extra weight of, say, an Ernie Ball pedal translates to easier, more accurate foot control. I've never noticed any noise coloration or hig-end reduction from my Ernie Ball passive pedal, and I'm VERY PICKY!!!! I've had that one since the early 1980s. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 18:44:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06920; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:44:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:44:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802184818.007a2410@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:48:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: hum In-Reply-To: <19990802010312.7419.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"VJnBl1.0.CY1.DvXft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You've probably already thought of this, but have you tried something like Humfrees? They're "rack isolation tabs"; basically non-conductive washers that break ground loops by isolating the chassis of each rackmount device from the rack and from each other. Could it be an RF thing? Do you still get the hum if you change the position of your effects in the rack relative to each other, a different stack order? Where are your wall warts, if any? Do any of your mains run too close to signal-carrying cables? Tim At 06:03 PM 8/1/99 -0700, you wrote: >Any advice on this problem .. >My Echoplex seems to be inducing hum into my effects >processor (zoom 9020) which I have mounted above it in my rack. If I >completely disconnect the EP from the mains the hum stops, if it's >connected ,even though it may be turned off it still causes hum thru >the effects. >Is it an earth loop thang ? I'm on 240v here if that makes a diff .. >any suggestions ? > >thanks, >Robert > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 18:59:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08924; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:59:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:59:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 00:51:45 +0200 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: Re: Continuous Control To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <37A62100.560A264F@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <00ea01bedb21$ff8d3300$21c2d6d1@oemcomputer> Resent-Message-ID: <"Ov9su3.0.l-1.V5Yft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Elaine -- as far as I know the RFC-1 will allow you to use several footpedals (6?) to send MIDI CCs. Apart from that it is apparently a very powerful pedalboard which can deal with all manner of MIDI data. I can't give you any detail because I don't own one (- wouldn't turn one down though). I've tried to track down Lake Butler Sound but I think they went out of business some time ago. Anyways, if you can find one of these I don't think you'll be disappointed. I've copied part of a message posted by someone here last week about this guy who's selling one... Hope this helps -- Mark for those of you who are MIDI enabled, this seems to have been an object of desire in the past PS don't know the guy never dealt with him, so caveat emptor LAKE BUTLER SOUND MITIGATOR RFC-1 CONTROLLER Asking Price: US$150 Condition: Excellent Age: N/A Description: THE MITIGATOR IS A GREAT MIDI CONTROLLER THAT HAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MEMORY. IT DOES PATCH CHANGES, CONTINUOUS CONTROLLERS AND HAS THE BEST DISPLAY (YOU CAN SEE IT FROM ACROSS THE STAGE!). I HAVE TWO. ONE IS IN BETTER SHAPE, BUT BOTH WORK PERFECT. I HAVE THE MANUAL AND THE OPTIONAL SNAKE FOR ONE. I HAVE A COPY OF THE MANUAL FOR THE OTHER. I WILL SELL BOTH FOR 250.00. PLEASE CALL DAVE FOR MORE DETAILS. CALL (904) 774-5309 IN THE EVENING OR ON WEEKENDS ANYTIME. THANKS. Seller: David Rauschenberger, 904-774-5309 E-mail: revman@intersrv.com (Profile) Location: ORANGE CITY, FL Post Date: 7/24/99 Elaine Walters wrote: > Finally back on the list again. Ok, I've been using a MIDI guitar > switching system for several years now, complete with big MIDI foot > controller and volume pedals plugged in acting as continuous > controlers. I admit that I'm not really in-the-know when it comes to > higher end MIDI territory, so I'm gonna have to display my ignorance > for everyone to see. Seems that there should be something out there > that would allow me to plug in a big 'ol bunch of volume pedals into > one device (and then translate it all to MIDI info) so that I could > have a whole bunch of continuous control pedals going at one time. > All of the MIDI footcontrollers I've ever seen have two inputs for > volume pedals?? Why two?? Damnit I want to have twenty > volume/expression pedals on the floor in front of me. Each one linked > to different parameters on all my various toys (via this cool, > imaginary device). What am I missing here?? I have a feeling the > answer is so simple that I'm going to look very foolish. Oh > well.Micah H. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 19:02:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09565; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:02:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:02:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 00:57:26 +0200 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: Korg KAOSS To: Loopers Delight Message-id: <37A62255.645F8512@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cSlkU2.0.292.pAYft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anybody used one of these? Looks fun -- 5sec stereo sampling/looping -- loads of real-time pad control -- alas, very limited editing -- Thanks - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 19:05:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10055; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:05:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:05:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990802160330.014df420@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:03:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: Continuous Control In-Reply-To: <37A62100.560A264F@stud.unibas.ch> References: <00ea01bedb21$ff8d3300$21c2d6d1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"SBP4G2.0.YG2.xCYft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Although it is a very powerful pedalboard, the RFC-1 only has one pedal input. At 12:51 AM 8/3/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hey Elaine -- as far as I know the RFC-1 will allow you to use several >footpedals (6?) to send MIDI CCs. Apart from that it is apparently a >very powerful pedalboard which can deal with all manner of MIDI data. I From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 21:31:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27586; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:31:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:31:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 02:10:47 +0100 Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controll From: "Martin Shellard" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"9ul9U3.0.396.69aft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm using the Morley Wah/volume pedal and although it's useful to have both in one box, if you are predominantly looking for a volume pedal I wouldn't recommend it. The travel is strange to me, the manual says that it's optimised for pedal steel-like effects so most of the attenuation is in the top third of the pedal's throw, I find it hard to get subtle changes in volume and smooth swells, the wah is great though! Martin Shellard ---------- >From: M T >To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controll >Date: Mon, Aug 2, 1999, 6:02 pm > > thanks to everyone for the input so far. I've heard good things about > the Ernie Ball pedals, but they are relatively huge, and the same goes > for the Morleys, which makes me reluctant to use them. With a Wah and > a huge volume, I don't have a hell of a lot of room left on my > pedalboard (not that I need much, but one never knows...). I've > thought about getting a wah/volume combo, which would solve the > size/weight issue, but that seems like it might be a drag somehow - if > anyone has used these, I would love to hear what they think of them. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 20:33:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20598; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:33:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:33:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:15:47 EDT Subject: echoplex mod question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 243 Resent-Message-ID: <"bb4Fa.0.MU4.AKZft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com on the FAQ page theres the mod to change the gain staging are those resistors 1/2, 1/4, or 1/8 watt? rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 22:03:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA31679; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:03:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:03:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A64DFD.607@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:03:41 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Online music replies summary References: <379D0EDC.4B72@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1BaOJ3.0.K57.0Zaft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello people -- This is a summary of the replies I recieved to my online music questionaire last week. I'm not going to go through and tabulate specifics on all the answers, partly because there were almost 30 replies and partly because some of the questions can't be answered in simple yes or no terms. At any rate, here's my summary: > 1) Have you ever downloaded unauthorized MP3 files from the net? Surprisingly, very few people claimed to have done this. Only four or five individuals said they had; one person didn't even know that it was possible to download files without the artist's permission! > 2) Have you ever copied recording onto MP3 and then uploaded the file to > the net? Again, not many people had done this. Of those who had, most did so strictly for promoting or sharing their own music; only one or two seemed to have "ripped" unauthorized copies and uploaded them. > 3) If MP3s of a particular song were available for sale online via a > secured credit card server, would you be likely to purchase them? What > do you feel would be an appropriate price range for a single song (4-6 > minutes)? For an entire album (40-76 minutes)? Would you be more > inclined to download individual songs or entire albums? This issue had the widest range of answers and opinions; there was no clear majority consensus. Many people were disinclined to purchase MP3s under any circumstances, seeing the format as more of a promotional tool for recordings than as a product to buy as such. Some said that they might be inclined to buy them online if they had CD burning software, if the sound quality were better, if more established artists were making material available in the format, or if there were highly rare recordings available via the format that were otherwise unavailable. The recommended price was usually around $1 - $2 per song and $5 - $10 for an album. (One person suggested a few cents per song and $1 - $2 for a full album!) Most people clearly felt that the cost should definitely be lower than a physical item like a CD, and some people remarked that they would miss the material trappings like a jewel box, cover, sleeve, etc. One of the most recurring issues raised here was that of download time -- most who would prefer to download individual songs cited time as a prominent factor (one person quipped "Downloading takes too long -- and I have DSL!") in their choice. Another issue raised by a few people was the potential obsolescence of the whole concept of the "album" as such, and the increased fluidity of how music "releases" are thought of conceptually. A possible sign of this was the fact that most people seemed to be more inclined towards individual song downloads rather than full albums. > 4) If you had the choice between purchasing officially sanctioned MP3s > from a commercial site or downloading unauthorized files for free, which > would you choose? Why? Many people felt that this issue depended on the artist -- they would be more inclined to pay for files from a lesser-known artist who was selling them directly, and more inclined to get unauthorized files from major acts on major labels. Most people cited the issue of supporting the artist's ability to profit from their work, and were concerned that their listening enjoyment was not coming at the expense of the artist being cheated out of their right to this. A lot of people remarked that they would download unauthorized files for free simply because they viewed the MP3s as a preview; if they liked the music, they'd buy the CD, and if they didn't like the music they'd simply delete the file. > 5) If you had the choice between purchasing a CD online or purchasing > the album in MP3 format online, which would you choose? Why? This was very close to a unanimous consensus; nearly everyone chose CDs as the preferred medium, for reasons of sound quality, universal compatibility, accessibility, and not having to mess with a computer-based interface and the attendant hassles (hard drive space, backing up, download time, audio in/out, etc.) > 6) If you had the option of having MP3s e-mailed to you rather than > downloaded directly from a web site, would you be more or less inclined > to purchase them? Why? Most people were opposed to the idea of having MP3s mailed to them, citing the complications of having large files sent to their mail systems. Not knowing when the files would arrive was another concern. Of those who preferred mailings, most seemed to think that it would be a faster process than downloading it themselves. > 7) If a web site offered a secure credit card server to process CD > purchase transactions, would you be more inclined to purchase the album > than if it was only available via mail-order? This was basically a unanimous "yes" -- the only person who said no remarked that he didn't engage in any online commerce. > 8) If you do purchase music online (either as CDs or as downloads), > which sites do you frequently visit/purchase from? There was no clear frontrunner here; many people had never purchased online. Of those who had, most of the replies were either one of the obvious and well-known sites like cdconnection.com, amazon.com, or cdnow.com, or else artist's individual sites. The consensus seems to be that MP3 is a great way to hear music on a short-term basis, but is not to be taken seriously as a format for repeated, long-term listening, or as something to buy or sell. For people to be readily prepared to buy downloads online, several things seem to be necessary: sound quality needs to be better than what's currently available, download time needs to be shorter, and the downloaded material needs to be accessible away from the computer, be it through CD burners or portable players. Thanks to all who replied; hope this was useful to people. --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 22:51:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA05154; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:51:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:51:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:32:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Andre LaFosse cc: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Online music replies summary In-Reply-To: <37A64DFD.607@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"HdtH71.0.Zn.MKbft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks Andre! Very interesting results. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 23:18:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA08163; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:18:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:18:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908030233.TAA10912@sparrow.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 19:24:15 -0700 Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controll From: "Matt and Kristy McCabe" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1XrmG3.0.Yp.yKbft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >My experience is that the Visual Volume (not an active pedal--the power >supply is for the LED display only) has the least coloration of signal, but >that may not be what you want if you're accustomed to standard volume pots, >which tend to attentuate the highs as volume is decreased. Visual Sound had a great idea with their Visual Volume pedal....however, they don't make them anymore. I guess the idea didn't catch on. Contrary to the posts here, my Visual Volume pedal is definitely *not* transparent...it has a definite roll off in the high frequenices....and after only a few months of light use, the pot is already scratchy. In other words, I'm still waiting for that perfect volume pedal. Matt __________________________________ Matthew F. McCabe Finley Sound Design http://www.finleysound.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 2 23:14:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07803; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:14:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:14:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:56:33 EDT Subject: Re: Roland DJ 70 Mark 2 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"GLPyO3.0.uS1.mgbft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 7/28/99 5:04:09 PM Central Daylight Time, lkirby@a2s.com writes: << I was wondering if anyone could help me locate one of these Rolands. I am trying to help a band purchase one of these. >> Mars Music in Minneapolis, MN. $899. I sold them mine, because it was a frustrating piece of shit. But if you want it, it's there, and they ain't going to sell it at that price. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 02:33:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA31022; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:33:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:33:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:10:56 EDT Subject: Re: Online music replies summary To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"zDetD3.0.B57.vWeft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com andre.........very interesting info.......thanks............michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 02:51:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA00969; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:51:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:51:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:32:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: echoplex mod question Resent-Message-ID: <"mCvqY2.0.zZ7.Iqeft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >on the FAQ page theres the mod to change the gain staging >are those resistors 1/2, 1/4, or 1/8 watt? > >rodrigo doesn't matter, it's a low power circuit. 1/4W is fine. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 04:34:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14444; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:34:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:34:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: "m.hughes" From: "Michael P. Hughes, PhD" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: In defence of wall warts Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:24:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beddcc$b6bd2ab0$acb6e383@me-biopc-22.mech.surrey.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199908030205.WAA32082@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"j_kaL2.0.ZO3.MVgft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A fable: In olden days, when the sun always shined, minsrels roamed the land, spreading music wherever they went. Many sang, or played lutes and harps, but some clued-up musicians obtained the latest sagely effects and would astound the public with their alfresco displays of misical wizardry. And how was this achieved? The FX boxes were all designed to run off 12VDC, ie a wall wart. However, the minstrels realised that a big 12V battery - a car battery for example - would suffice, and it enabled them to play their music wherever they wanted. Or, to put it another way; lasy weekend I bought the GT5 (internal transformer, fixed cable) and a Midiman 18-channel mixer (9V AC, not DC) to go with my JamMan (also 9V AC). Or to put it another way, I'm never going to be playing more that 6' from the nearerst socket... Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 04:43:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA15523; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:43:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 04:43:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 01:38:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffery Hildebrand X-Sender: jscotth@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: BOOMERANG FOR SALE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"58bg22.0.Af3.nggft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i recently bought a brand new Boomerang Phrase Sampler, the 2/4.5 minute one, and don't really know if i can afford it right now. i got it for it's list price, so if anyone wants one for a REALLY good price, lemme know. it's absolutely brand spankin new and it's a damn cool looping tool. later, scott From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 07:59:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31074; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:59:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:59:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: dinamic1-209.drago.net [195.76.196.209] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990803124820.00689610@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:48:20 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: RBT Subject: any advice on FD-4 / FD-8 ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id GAA24646 Resent-Message-ID: <"m-wmv2.0.D46.WYift"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi friends any advice on these new fostex digital recording machines ? any user amongst us? thanks in advance. RBT p.s. sorry for the non-related content to the list. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Raül Bonell Tomàs http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 09:24:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08957; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:24:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:24:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A6EA43.EAEF4FBC@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:10:30 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:VS Series/Volume Pedals References: <199908030209.WAA32696@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"I4Hpi2.0.Df1.Hfkft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Todd, the new VS 880 EX has a 2.1MB hard drive. MT, the Morley PDW has volume, wah, and distortion. On my CD "Theorcolus" I use the wah for my bass solo and it sounds great! The cool thing with this pedal is you can add a touch of distortion to get a real cool sounding wah. The rocker pedal works smoothly for all 3 operations. David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 09:37:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10513; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:37:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <509A72D94082D2119CF600062B001871057A5FB2@po-conway-3.conway.acxiom.com> From: dastew - Darin Stewart To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: BOOMERANG FOR SALE Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:29:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SLUIDL: 0A0FF87A-49A611D3-987D0000-F6775E9A Resent-Message-ID: <"ctAf72.0.bN2.Yxkft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeffery -- I'm very interested. Please email me the details off-line. Thanks. Darin L. Stewart Advanced Technologies and Architectures Acxiom Corporation 501.342.4486 -----Original Message----- From: Jeffery Hildebrand [mailto:jshildebrand@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 3:39 AM To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: BOOMERANG FOR SALE i recently bought a brand new Boomerang Phrase Sampler, the 2/4.5 minute one, and don't really know if i can afford it right now. i got it for it's list price, so if anyone wants one for a REALLY good price, lemme know. it's absolutely brand spankin new and it's a damn cool looping tool. later, scott From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 09:55:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13115; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:55:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:55:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <019101beddb6$ca906680$8fc0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Continuous Control Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:47:48 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Nx6Cq3.0.j13.WElft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>It sounds like you're missing about 18 feet and $900 worth of volume >>pedals. Plus, another six feet of floor space to deploy all of hardware. >>Wouldn't it be easier to use a conventional MIDI controller with two CC >>pedals built in, and use the switches to change what parameter was >>assigned to each CC pedal? The idea makes perfect sense, but how to implement it?? As of now I'm using the Ground Control. I've got two volume inputs that can be asigned to any two parameters (of any device) of my choice. The only thing else the Ground Control can do is switch presets. Are you talking about setting up multiple versions of the same preset within a given device, each with a different parameter linked to one of the CC units?? That's doable, but I just think it would be so much more flexible, user friendly, and fun to have a bank (ok, not TOO many) of volume pedals that you can operate almost as faders on a mixing desk. Label them, and you would have an immediate visual reference while playing with the sound. Any thoughts?? BTW, the Rolls midi pedal (mentioned previously) seems like the best bet yet with 8 continuous control inputs. I wonder how it could be used in conjunction with the Ground Control ie I wonder how I could use ONLY the CC from the Rolls, and keep the Ground Control doing all the preset switching (with this the Rolls wouldn't even need to be on the floor, it could stay in the rack). Would this be an issue for a MIDI mixer type device (which I know little to nothing about)??? Hmmmm. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 12:03:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30231; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:03:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:03:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:52:48 -0700 Message-ID: <00001BD2.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: Continuous Control To: ew37@bellsouth.net, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"Fd4W9.0.i97.65nft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Elaine Walters" wrote... > The (cc) idea makes perfect sense, but how to implement it?? On my PMC-10 I regularly use an entire bank for control of my Waldorf 4-pole filter. One button configures the two pedals to control volume-resonance and cutoff. Another config controls LFO speed and depth. Yet another modifies ADSR parameters attack and sustain... these are all just changing the cc values which the pedals control. Another button toggles my relay switcher to switch the filter in or out. I'm doing another bank for EDP control right now... Elaine... > I wonder how it could be used in conjunction with the Ground Control ie I > wonder how I could use ONLY the CC from the Rolls, and keep the Ground Control > doing all the preset switching (with this the Rolls wouldn't even need to be > on the floor, it could stay in the rack). Would this be an issue for a MIDI > mixer type device (which I know little to nothing about)??? Hmmmm. Once you say you're willing to get off the floor there's several interesting and different controllers out there. 1. Peavey PC1600x is a 16 fader/switch controller with each fader and switch programmable. You can assign any fader to become a master fader which can then be programmed to control any number of other faders. There's two inputs on the rear for expeds and switches. It has storable config presets so you could have several variants. I could see having a master programming config for each of my dsps as well as performance configs which have a few cc's or pc's for each dsp. This is one of those blank canvas type of devices which allows you to do whatever you please... 2. Korg KAOS pad... I believe this thing sends midi so it could be useful for tweaking you dsps. Someone mentioned that it's not very programmable though so careful study of what it actually does do is important. 3. The Phatman controller is a bank of knobs with dedicated non-programmable cc assignments. Assuming your dsp's allow you to choose the cc which controls any given parameter, you could use this. (My Waldorf stuff has fixed cc assignments so my controller has to be programmable to get control of it.) 4. Then there's stuff like the Dimension Beam infrared controllers as well as Infusion Systems I-cube which is a midi digitizer module with inputs for a large range of sensors like proximity, pressure, light, velocity, deflection etc. I have no idea what the cost of these babies are, but I'm getting pretty interested in using a proximity or velocity sensor to get away from having to ride a pedal.The Synthzone site has a midi controllers area which lists most of these that I've mentioned as well as quite a few others. http://www.synthzone.com/ctrlr.htm Admittedly, the Rolls with 8 controller inputs followed by Roland FC-200 with 6? are the two pedal hogs for floor control. I'd like to know more about how programmable the Rolls is... can anyone tell us more? best! -Biffoz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 13:22:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA04370; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:22:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:22:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A71C14.8404A33D@vexcel.com> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:43:00 -0600 From: Larry Peterson Reply-To: larry@vexcel.com Organization: Vexcel Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Volume pedals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"M8oL-3.0.up.pDoft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings! I just found that Sound Sculpture (the Switchblade company) has a device that converts guitar controls and/or volume into MIDI continuous control messages. It's called "MidiUp" and you can find it at: http://www.soundsculpture.com - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 14:34:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21337; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:34:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 14:34:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00001BD2.C22160@svg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:28:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, ew37@bellsouth.net From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Continuous Control Resent-Message-ID: <"_Envo3.0.aR4.zIpft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:52 AM -0700 8/3/99, Mike Biffle wrote: >"Elaine Walters" wrote... >> The (cc) idea makes perfect sense, but how to implement it?? > >On my PMC-10 I regularly use an entire bank for control of my Waldorf 4-pole >filter. One button configures the two pedals to control volume-resonance and >cutoff. Another config controls LFO speed and depth. Yet another modifies >ADSR >parameters attack and sustain... these are all just changing the cc values >which >the pedals control. Another button toggles my relay switcher to switch the >filter in or out. I'm doing another bank for EDP control right now... yeah, I do that too. Actually, I've recently had to create several echoplex banks...... >Elaine... >> I wonder how it could be used in conjunction with the Ground Control ie I >> wonder how I could use ONLY the CC from the Rolls, and keep the Ground >>Control >> doing all the preset switching (with this the Rolls wouldn't even need >>to be >> on the floor, it could stay in the rack). Would this be an issue for a >>MIDI >> mixer type device (which I know little to nothing about)??? Hmmmm. midi merge is what you want. I think Anatek makes tiny midi merge boxes. Or, if you had a REAL midi pedal, like say a digitech PMC-10, it would have a midi-in jack and do the midi merge for you. Then you could plug another device into your pedal for it to mix the data and send it to your other devices... :-) >Once you say you're willing to get off the floor there's several >interesting and >different controllers out there. > >1. Peavey PC1600x is a 16 fader/switch controller with each fader and switch etc.... don't forget the Buchla Thunder! http://www.buchla.com kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 15:28:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05853; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:28:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:28:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990803191034.6246.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.130.210] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: 16 track 1 space mixer? Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 12:10:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"urQef1.0.9r.lxpft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi there All, I need help locating a 12 to 16 track single space mixer with at least 2 aux sends for routing EDP,jamman,vortex,lexicon lxp 1,GT5,GR30 I've got a boomrerang but don't think I need it for this configuration.A good used one would be fine.$200 to $350 range.The 16 track rane looked good but only 1 aux send.Thanks papadave55@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 18:25:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29612; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:25:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:25:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: "Schreier, Steven (Steven)" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Buchla Thunder Controller for CC Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:01:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"y9ITz1.0.jP6.ERsft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Since we seem to be tangled up in this thread, I thought I'd ad my two cents. I trigger both samples from my Akai S-5000 digital sampler as well as assign continuous controller info from a Buchla Midi Thunder controller. A small unit with 20 or so tactile touch sensors programmable to any CC number or latch mode to toggle key notes on or off. The most cool function lies in the random generator assignment. During a live show the Thunder allows a different sense of interaction with my effect arsenal unlike any floor board option I've been able to conjure up. Steven J. Schreier Something Audio San Diego, Ca. Voice: 619.297.2614 Fax: 619.874.1701 E-mail: schreier@lucent.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 18:29:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA30192; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:29:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:29:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: <42fe5b9c.24d8c2c7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:10:15 EDT Subject: Re: 16 track 1 space mixer? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"doPuR2.0.Jn6.Hasft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/3/99 11:28:21 AM, papadave55@hotmail.com writes: >I need help locating a 12 to 16 track single space mixer with at least 2 aux sends You might look into the Roctron G612. It's single-space, 12-track, stereo mixer with 2 auxilliary sends and returns. Sounds good to my ears (quiet) but I don't really know the specs. It also has a switch that converts it from a 12-channel mixer to two separate 6-channel mixers in a single housing. It has rather tiny rotary knobs though. I cant tell you how many times I wish that had faders--but then I'd probably be forced to into more rack spaces (which I have none to spare in my skb 12-slot rack). If you can live with little knobs it may be just the thing. Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 19:39:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06599; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:39:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:39:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908032254.SAA31906@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:00:12 -0400 Subject: 4 trak dat From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OkraY3.0.mH.BDtft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone know of a 4 track dat or even a 2 trak dat that is inexpensive_or possibly even another type of 4 track digital recorder? thanks alot c.white From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 3 22:56:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA31748; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:56:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:56:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990715214300.99714.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.20.11.26] From: "ld thomson" To: alaslo@mms.ca, bec@murple.com, cchc@interlog.com, dasilva_corner@yahoo.com, macfadyenj@optel.ca, khourigan@rolandca.com, ky_tran@manulife.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, mlemyre@interlog.com, sol@nbnet.nb.ca Subject: Fwd: REMINDER - SNOWMELTER JULY 20, 1999 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:42:59 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"1qReZ3.0.1l6.EJwft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From: "Snowmelter ..." Subject: REMINDER Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:35:20 GMT Just a quick reminder that SNOWMELTER will be performing at the CAMERON HOUSE 408 Queen st W Toronto Ontario Canada (1 block west of spadina on the north side of Queen) Tuesday July 20th. Opening the evening at 10:00pm will be SAINT ROSE. SNOWMELTER will be on at 11:00 until 12:00pm. SNOWMELTER is: Justin Morrison - Bass, Keybass, Vocals Richard Forsley - Guitar, Devices Lorne Thomson - Vocals, Guitar Synthesizer, Beat-box Hope to see you there!! snowmelter@hotmail.com >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 00:38:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17213; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:38:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:38:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A7BCDD.4AAED738@home.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 00:09:01 -0400 From: Fabio Katz Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-AtHome0404 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: 16 track 1 space mixer? References: <19990803191034.6246.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1y-vQ3.0.QO2.Hoxft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi David, I'm very satisfied with the Midiman Micromixer 16, basic but quiet => pros: * 1/2 rack space * 18 channel (12 + 3 stereo pairs) * stereo output * for each channel: vol, pan, send1, send2 * 2 aux sends * headphone output * very light weight * in your price range cons: * no EQ * tiny knobs instead of faders Fabio Katz http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 David Potter wrote: > > Hi there All, > I need help locating a 12 to 16 track single space mixer with at least > 2 aux sends for routing EDP,jamman,vortex,lexicon lxp 1,GT5,GR30 > I've got a boomrerang but don't think I need it for this configuration.A > good used one would be fine.$200 to $350 range.The 16 track rane looked good > but only 1 aux send.Thanks papadave55@hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 03:09:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA03512; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 03:09:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 03:09:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 01:39:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199908040739.BAA19180@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: MP3 free web space Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id CAA32023 Resent-Message-ID: <"-im3K2.0.iq7.M5-ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I´d like to put some MP3 loops on the net, where I could start to search for free MP3 web space? A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 04:26:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09913; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:26:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:26:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: "m.hughes" From: "Michael P. Hughes, PhD" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: RE: 16 track 1 space mixer? Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:20:02 -0700 Message-ID: <001601bede95$3449fcb0$acb6e383@me-biopc-22.mech.surrey.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37A7BCDD.4AAED738@home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"wZeNO3.0.oH2.sU_ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fabio: > I'm very satisfied with the Midiman Micromixer 16, basic but quiet => > pros: > * 1/2 rack space > * 18 channel (12 + 3 stereo pairs) > * stereo output > * for each channel: vol, pan, send1, send2 > * 2 aux sends > * headphone output > * very light weight > * in your price range > cons: > * no EQ > * tiny knobs instead of faders Just bought one of these. Only problem is that it uses a 9V AC adaptor, and I'm having problems sourcing one. I'm trying to wire 2 jacks off my JamMan wallwart - and hoping this doesn't overload the transformer! The 2 aux sends are a godsend - I have the GT5 in one and JamMan in the other. The ONLY problem I have is that the headphone output is on the front rather than the back (with all the other connectors), which is a pity. Larry: > I just found that Sound Sculpture (the Switchblade company) has > a device that converts guitar controls and/or volume into MIDI > continuous control messages. It's called "MidiUp" and you can > find it at: http://www.soundsculpture.com I've just remembered something I planned to do with my GT5 when I got it - to wire my guitar's tone pots into the GT5's two CC inputs. In fact, I'll mention the GT5's remarkable CC setup - not only has it got one CC pedal (which is totally programmable), it has stereo jacks for another two. All three pedals hare totally assignable to all functions, including on-off at various points in the sweep. And there's more - a control pedal which can switch a load of functions in the current patch, including the assigned functions of the CC pedals. So you can use the CC pedal to change the pedal from vol to wah, for example. I've set up a patch in which the control pedal changes the function of the distortion, preamp, speaker simulator and EQ to change from huge-reverb acoustic to saoring distortion. It's my "Matthias Grob" preset. :) Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 05:30:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14548; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:30:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:30:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A80538.58822B56@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 11:17:44 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: where is the digital guitar site gone ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AopHW.0.AQ3.AP0gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com does anybody know what happened to the digital guitar site at http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/home.html I keep getting error 5o3 blabla thanks Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 05:41:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15649; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:41:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:41:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001f01bede5d$3fdfa9e0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <199908040739.BAA19180@servidor.unam.mx> Subject: Re: MP3 free web space Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:39:27 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"f_Qfm.0.hk3.ed0gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MP3.com allows artists to upload their files and establish information about themselves and gives them room to upload their band/artist info and RealAudio/MP3 files. Plus it's free! Go here: http://www.mp3.com/newartist/ The site proper is here: http://www.mp3.com If you need some free web space in general (some providers I am sure will give you enough room to upload MP3 files), you might try going here: http://etalien.hypermart.net/freeweb.htm http://www.i-55.com/lynnfleming/Newpages99/freewebsites.html You can also do what I did in order to find the URLs above: I did a search on "free web space" on http://altavista.digital.com . I hope this helps! Peace and good luck, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Soto To: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:39 AM Subject: MP3 free web space > > > I´d like to put some MP3 loops on the net, where I could start to > search for free MP3 web space? > > A > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 09:17:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02157; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:17:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:17:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A83BD4.BE0@voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:10:49 -0400 From: Charles Cohen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: re: Continuous Control & Rolls Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0g5J-2.0.kK.xl3gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) wrote: > I'd like to know more about > how > programmable the Rolls is... can anyone tell us more? RFX MP1288 8 input jacks for 0 to 5 volt voltage control pedals or variable resistance to ground pedals as I remember -each can be set for a CC# and a channel (in a single preset only) -the response is not exactly linear -some resistance pedals don't give full range From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 09:49:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06538; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:49:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:49:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00f701bede7e$a653ade0$5ec1d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Continuous Control Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:38:19 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LBNL_3.0.rE1.fB4gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for all the controller recomendations Mike, and the MIDI merge suggestion Kim. And the synthzone site is really great. You guys really like the PCM 10 don't you :-)) It seems like a pretty powerfull MIDI pedal. I had no idea it had MIDI inputs as well. Anybody still have the address of that site that details all of its features?? Admitedly I'm stil kind of holding onto the multi-volume pedal idea (possibly using the 8 input Rolls), but I'm REALLY enjoying reading about how others are using CC. It's getting the creative gears turning. I'll be out of town for a bit, but look forward to reading more messages when I return. Thanks y'all. Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 10:34:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12921; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:34:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:34:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: <5a71df19.24d9a796@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:26:30 EDT Subject: Re: Visual Volume To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"SzCt5.0.Mw2.et4gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After posting my recommendation for it, I saw a few mention it's tendency to get scratchy easily. I also had this problem and called the main guy at Visual Sound (I think Robert Weil was his name, or something close). He had me send it in and replaced the pot free of charge, even though I told him I bought it used. Leads me to believe there was an upgrade in the part he was using since mine was manufactured, but I haven't had a problem since and that was a year or two ago. He did recommend using a can of compressed air to clean it out if it does develop static, and that the aerosol-type contact and electronic parts cleaners they sell can actually make matters worse. As for someone who posted actually losing a lot of high frequencies, I can assure you mine is so vastly superior to almost any other I've tried (the small Rolls one did a somewhat transparent job but doesn't go down to absolute zero) that it was immediately noticeable and worth hassling over getting the pot replaced. So, maybe my previously enthusiastic endorsement should be tempered with the caveat that there does seem to be some inconsistency among these units. Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 12:03:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26040; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:03:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:03:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908041548.LAA23667@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: MP3 free web space Date: Wed, 4 Aug 99 08:47:56 -0700 x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Matt Peterson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id LAA23667 Resent-Message-ID: <"VH94s3.0.8o5.936gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sharehouse.xoom.com Since this question keeps popping up I figure I'd chime in with a service the company I work for offers. Yes, it is free. No, you don't get something for nothing. In order to upload or download, you have to become a xoom member which means you'll get offers via email from xoom to buy things. If you don't like this idea, please don't visit. 8/4/99 12:39 AM Andy Soto (smaug@servidor.unam.mx) wrote: > > > I´d like to put some MP3 loops on the net, where I could start to >search for free MP3 web space? > >A Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 12:10:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27266; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:10:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:10:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990804160556.28227.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tiit Kikas Subject: Boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"wOVzR1.0.7V6.tJ6gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Loopers! Is there a MIDI IN, OUT in the Boomerang?? Tiit _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 12:26:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29686; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:26:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:26:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:12:48 -0700 Message-ID: <00001CFD.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: Continuous Control & Rolls To: ccohen@voicenet.com, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"Yt3AK1.0.N-6.BV6gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) wrote: >> I'd like to know more about how programmable the Rolls is... can anyone tell >> us more? > RFX MP1288 > 8 input jacks for 0 to 5 volt voltage control pedals or variable > resistance to ground pedals as I remember -each can be set for a CC# and a > channel (in a single preset only) -the response is not exactly linear -some > resistance pedals don't give full range Can it assign more than one cc to a single pedal and choose how each cc is scaled? Eg. delay level goes up while reverb level goes down... This sort of thing is pretty important to me... I don't like to have to find two different pedals and hustle them around trying to accomplish a double or triple fader move. The PMC-10 allows you to assign and scale up to 3 cc's per pedal. Also... are the individiual switches programmable? pc's, cc values... best regards, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 13:31:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA06861; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:31:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:31:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: "m.hughes" From: "Michael P. Hughes, PhD" To: Fabio Katz , Loopers-Delight Subject: Have people heard this?? Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:13:23 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bededf$b6984ba0$acb6e383@me-biopc-22.mech.surrey.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37A7BCDD.4AAED738@home.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"5w5Yl2.0.R41.BJ7gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Fabio Katz > http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 People - check this out! The arrangement of Fuga y Misterio is fantastic - I listened with my jaw open. This is the most perfect example I've heard of what I always thought loopers were for. Mike Fabio - have you considered getting on the Loopers of the World list on the WWWpage? (I remind everyone else about this too). It makes it much easier for loopers to get access to each other's work etc. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 13:22:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05459; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:22:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:22:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: GRAIGORY2@aol.com Message-ID: <4acc7009.24d9cc02@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:01:54 EDT Subject: sampling keyboards and synths MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Resent-Message-ID: <"dPFKh.0.xh.q97gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What do you all suggest are the best sampling keyboards out there that also interface with PCs ... and furthermore, do any of you know which keyboard Erick sermon or teddy Riley uses? THEME From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 13:04:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02924; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:04:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:04:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: <5f51382f.24d9c98e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:51:26 EDT Subject: Re: 16 track 1 space mixer? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Resent-Message-ID: <"yy_2J3.0.BD.c_6gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dave, I can't help you much with a "Single Rack Space" 12-16 channel mixer...but here's what I do. >From my guitar, I take the RMC pickup 13 pin out connector to an RMC fanout box. I take the 6 individual string outputs from the rear of the fanout box to a Kendrick 6 Shooter , 6 channel tube preamp. I take the 6 channel outputs to each of 6 channels of a Behringer single rack space Unltralink Pro sub mixer. Each string of the guitar is then "pannable" in the stereo field, plus I can adjust individual string gains. The stereo output of the Behringer go's to a Blue Max compressor, and from there to either a Jam Man or a pair of Echoplex EDP's. From there I route the output to a Yorkville AudioPro 812 12 channel stereo mixer preamp, which has 400 watts per side. I put the L in channel 1, the right in channel 2. The remaining channels on the mixer are for stereo inputs from the GR1 GR30, VG-8, and a host of other goodies I use, including a CD player. It's a bit elaborate for the average coffee house gig, but it sure sounds great through a pair of Yorkville Satellite cabinets. Regards, Wayne From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 13:40:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08525; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:40:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:40:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001601bede9d$e90679a0$262310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Michael Tuminello" , "Loopers-Delight" Subject: Re: active/passive volume & controller pedal Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:20:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LDQuZ3.0.eN1.4S7gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry, Michael, but this got stuck in my outbox for a few days. Mike T. wrote: >What is the difference between a passive and active volume pedal. I heard >one goes before effects and one after, or somethign like that, but the >passive one is described in Musician's Friend as if it is only meant for >keyboard. A passive volume pedal will only limit your volume, and will add more capacitence/impedence to your signal. An active pedal will have some kind of preamp in it which will at least minimize the cap/imp problem, and probably add a little oomph to your signal at maximum setting, too. I'd have to see the Muso Friend ad to comment on application, but you'd want a passive unit if you use a minimum of other pedals, and an active unit with more pedals. Placement would depend on how you wanted to shape your effects, but overall, a passive pedal would work best later in the chain. The active pedal could act as a line-driver/buffer. >Does a volume pedal work as a controller/expression pedal generally, or is >that a separate thing altogether (and in which case why do I never see any >in the catalogs). I need a controller for midi parameter change with my QV >GT. Garden-variety volume pedals do not speak MIDI. I imagine if any pedal did, it would be an "anything" pedal, depending on which parameters you cared to assign to it. I'm not too jazzed on MIDI but I know there are many good controllers out there. I'm sure lots of LD'ers will steer you right, as they seem to be doing even in the short time after I wrote this reply and continued to read the remainder of posts! >third, and final (for now) question - anyone recommend a nice stageworthy >tuner. Is that boss pedal tuner any good? I haven't tried the Boss, but I just reviewed the Akai (along with the Headrush) and was impressed enough to purchase it and ditch my old duct-taped-to-the-amp, unplug-and-tune-between-sets unit. The Akai reads very smoothly, has a large readout, true bypass, auto turn-off so you don't waste batteries, and the stomp switch acts as a mute so you can tune silently OR while playing (a nice feature if, like me, you need to drop a string down a whole step in the middle of a song). Also, the rack-mount Korg is an industry standard, and most all Korg tuners are very stable and sturdy. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 13:45:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09784; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:45:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:45:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908041727.NAA23645@mail.netaxs.com> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: Subject: Still WTB: Digitech PMC10 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:25:38 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"BCbbP3.0.RX1.fW7gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Still looking for one. Anyone selling? Anyone have a lead on someone else who is selling? It's specifically the note ON and note OFF capability I'm looking for, and I haven't yet heard of any other controller that does this. The MIDI string idea sounds pretty cool tool. Thanks, -- Mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 13:52:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10967; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:52:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:52:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001301bede9f$ee000e60$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <19990804160556.28227.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:36:46 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"EkSFd2.0.Pr1.7d7gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nope-o-rama ----- Original Message ----- From: Tiit Kikas To: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:05 AM Subject: Boomerang > Hi Loopers! > Is there a MIDI IN, OUT in the Boomerang?? > > Tiit > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 14:08:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13712; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:08:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:08:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: msottila owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:01:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Sottilaro X-Sender: msottila@rodan.syr.edu To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I new looper in the SF area In-Reply-To: <3797D918.5BF36E80@edzone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"DH61V1.0.943.H08gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey all, We made it! The webpage proved harder to do from the road than I thought, but it's comming soon. Anyway, I'm staying with a friend in San Jose for now, but soon I'll be settled in Alameda. I'm really looking forward to meeting the indiginous loop live here (as well as transplanted loopers such as my self). My web access is a little spotty, but I'll try to reply to anyone that wants to jam. So anyway, Hello! Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 14:27:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16923; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:27:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:27:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB19629C4C4@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:12:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2516.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"wu_Ug3.0.9a3.oA8gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Welcome to the Bay Area. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [SMTP:msottila@mailbox.syr.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:01 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: I new looper in the SF area > > Hey all, > > We made it! The webpage proved harder to do from the road than I > thought, but it's comming soon. Anyway, I'm staying with a friend in San > Jose for now, but soon I'll be settled in Alameda. I'm really looking > forward to meeting the indiginous loop live here (as well as transplanted > loopers such as my self). My web access is a little spotty, but I'll try > to reply to anyone that wants to jam. > > So anyway, Hello! > > Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 14:36:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18627; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:36:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:36:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:29:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang In-Reply-To: <19990804160556.28227.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"PvUKD1.0.EH4.gR8gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com nope. Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Tiit Kikas wrote: > Hi Loopers! > Is there a MIDI IN, OUT in the Boomerang?? > > Tiit > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 15:52:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31784; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:52:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:52:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990804193905.91181.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.130.151] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:39:04 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"9vHfQ2.0.NK7.WS9gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com no, no midi in or out...ommmmmmm >From: Tiit Kikas >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Boomerang >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:05:56 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi Loopers! >Is there a MIDI IN, OUT in the Boomerang?? > >Tiit >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 16:25:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04891; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:25:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:25:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990804201032.82358.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.130.151] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 13:10:31 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"XXDd8.0.Ph.-v9gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mark ,where have you been???????I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU EVERY DAY!!!!!Staying up til 3 am every night waiting for a sign...anything. You tease us with promised looping sights and sounds of America only to leave us hanging for weeks!!!!What's up with that!!!!Please get your itinerary out so I can visit all the loopy places and make my summer complete......Thanks,Dave >From: Mark Sottilaro >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: I new looper in the SF area >Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:01:13 -0400 (EDT) > >Hey all, > >We made it! The webpage proved harder to do from the road than I >thought, but it's comming soon. Anyway, I'm staying with a friend in San >Jose for now, but soon I'll be settled in Alameda. I'm really looking >forward to meeting the indiginous loop live here (as well as transplanted >loopers such as my self). My web access is a little spotty, but I'll try >to reply to anyone that wants to jam. > >So anyway, Hello! > >Mark Sottilaro > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 16:48:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08883; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:48:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:48:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:20:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB19629C4C4@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"dX72T3.0.Gz.40Agt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Welcome!! bIz -----Original Message----- From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM [mailto:bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:12 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Welcome to the Bay Area. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [SMTP:msottila@mailbox.syr.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:01 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: I new looper in the SF area > > Hey all, > > We made it! The webpage proved harder to do from the road than I > thought, but it's comming soon. Anyway, I'm staying with a friend in San > Jose for now, but soon I'll be settled in Alameda. I'm really looking > forward to meeting the indiginous loop live here (as well as transplanted > loopers such as my self). My web access is a little spotty, but I'll try > to reply to anyone that wants to jam. > > So anyway, Hello! > > Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 17:53:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17800; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:53:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:53:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A8A468.707E@voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 16:36:56 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Looper's Delight CD #1 Now for Sale... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"MHLgv1.0.Qo1.RLAgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A few orders have come in and those CDs will go out this week. Thanks! Almost 50 people expressed interest in buying them but the orders are not coming in. please don't wait. If you want we need your order ASAP so we can start paying back costs to the Web site. Here's the skinny once again: =================== The reissue of the Looper's Delight Subscriber's CD #1 is now available directly from Help Wanted Productions via Mail order. Costs are $12.00 US including shipping anywhere in the United States and $13.00 including shipping to Canada or anywhere else in the world. Proceeds will go to the Looper's Delight Web site to help pay ISP and other costs. Full ordering info (Address, payment methods, etc) can be found at: Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/catalog.html Print out the order form from the link on this page and put down the name and #'s of CDs you want. Mail it in and you'll get the goods in 2-4 weeks tops! A brief description and link to the LD web page can be found under the Compilation CD section. This release was professionally duplicated with on disc printing and the covers are the full color originals Ray made back when this began. For full info check out the LD web page link at: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/cd1/LDCD1.htm Prefered method of payment is a USPS MO. Checks are accepted but may take longer to process. (PLEASE make sure checks are valid and will not bounce!). CASH is at your own risk. If I get it, I promise you'll get your CDs. All MOs, checks, etc. should be in US funds and made payable to Help Wanted Productions. There are plenty of CDs for everyone who already requested them and more so please send those orders in now and tell your friends. Thanks for all your patience on this project. The CDs look and sound GREAT! Thanks to Ray Peck for starting the whole thing and getting the fantastic covers done as well as Kim Flint and Michael Peters for helping me organize this monster and getting it re-released. There are links galore all over the catalog with info on other music HWP sells, check them out if you so desire. The Web site houses a gallery of unusual instruments and an extensive page of electronic music links to other site, artists, and instruments including a page on the Roland GR300/GR33b guitar synths. If anyone has any questions feel free to contact me and I'll try and help you out. It all free so as AB sings "Dig me but don't bury me". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 18:01:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19111; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:01:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:01:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:37:15 -0700 Message-ID: <00001D70.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: I new looper in the SF area To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"xylA8.0.l14.rFBgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ya mon... welcome to the left coast... It's just me 'n PapaDave down here in Santa Cruz... We're waiting for that travelogue... Learn to surf while you're here! -m ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Author: MAILHUB.GWIA:"jbiz@linkexchange.com" at Grpwsepo Date: 8/4/99 1:34 PM Date: 08/04/1999 01:34 pm (Wednesday) From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: MAILHUB.GWIA("Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com") Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Welcome!! bIz -----Original Message----- From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM [mailto:bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:12 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Welcome to the Bay Area. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [SMTP:msottila@mailbox.syr.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:01 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: I new looper in the SF area > > Hey all, > > We made it! The webpage proved harder to do from the road than I > thought, but it's comming soon. Anyway, I'm staying with a friend in San > Jose for now, but soon I'll be settled in Alameda. I'm really looking > forward to meeting the indiginous loop live here (as well as transplanted > loopers such as my self). My web access is a little spotty, but I'll try > to reply to anyone that wants to jam. > > So anyway, Hello! > > Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 19:58:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00352; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:58:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:58:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <995cf224.24da1f37@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:56:55 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"rzv531.0.8H6.NMCgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/4/99 3:10:18 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, tkikas@yahoo.com writes: << Hi Loopers! Is there a MIDI IN, OUT in the Boomerang?? Tiit _ >> thank GOD no................:).........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 21:06:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08646; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:06:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:06:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990805002201.35892.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.244.230.25] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: HD Audio delay Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 17:22:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"Ex7Qy3.0.fr.ybDgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm using a 400Mhz Powerbook G3 w/ 192 megs RAM and a 6GB hard drive running Opcode VisionDSP and I've noticed an increased delay between the acutal note played and the note being recorded. I'm using the 16bit audio in and running the G3 enhanced Acadia/Soundmanager for my Audio source. Any help here? I'm getting really frustrated. I just added some VST pluggins, might they be the source? Thanks, Sean _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 21:15:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09862; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:15:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:15:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990804210021.007968e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:00:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD #1 Now for Sale... In-Reply-To: <37A8A468.707E@voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"JFLvR3.0.Ih1.71Egt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cliche though it may well be, but the check's in the mail... Tim At 04:36 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: >A few orders have come in and those CDs will go out this week. Thanks! >Almost 50 people expressed interest in buying them but the orders are >not coming in. please don't wait. If you want we need your order ASAP so >we can start paying back costs to the Web site. Full ordering info (Address, payment methods, etc) can be found at: > >Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/catalog.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 21:52:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA14616; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:52:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:52:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37A71C14.8404A33D@vexcel.com> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:26:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: MIDI UP Resent-Message-ID: <"piBeG1.0.co2.sYEgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 8/3/99 Larry wrote: >Greetings! > >I just found that Sound Sculpture (the Switchblade company) has >a device that converts guitar controls and/or volume into MIDI >continuous control messages. It's called "MidiUp" and you can >find it at: http://www.soundsculpture.com > Has anyone actualy used this unit. I have Continous controllers available with my PMC-10, but this sounds like anothe rpossibility. Perhaps somewhat limited. has anyone linked up more than one? Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 23:41:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29540; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A90183.11DF3FB7@home.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:14:11 -0400 From: Fabio Katz Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-AtHome0404 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: Have people heard this?? References: <000201bededf$b6984ba0$acb6e383@me-biopc-22.mech.surrey.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Q6LDv1.0.vL6.w4Ggt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Mike, Thanks for your kind words! Fuga y Misterio is one of my all time favorites, and I'm very happy I found a way to arrange it for Stick and loops, I enjoy a lot playing it live. "Michael P. Hughes, PhD" wrote: > > > Fabio Katz > > http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 > > People - check this out! The arrangement of Fuga y Misterio is fantastic - I > listened with my jaw open. This is the most perfect example I've heard of what > I always thought loopers were for. > > Mike > > Fabio - have you considered getting on the Loopers of the World list on the > WWWpage? (I remind everyone else about this too). It makes it much easier for > loopers to get access to each other's work etc. That sounds very interesting, could you give more more details on how to join? Thanks, Fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 23:41:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29544; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:41:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A902BD.13006B77@home.com> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:19:25 -0400 From: Fabio Katz Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-AtHome0404 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MP3 free web space References: <199908040739.BAA19180@servidor.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"98UoO1.0.qV6.9AGgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Andy, You may want to try http://www.geocities.com They give you 12 M of free space, and from my experience the servers are fast and reliable. Visitors get a popup every time they access a page in your site, unless you prefer to include their banner on your pages to avoid the popup. Fabio http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 Andy Soto wrote: > > I´d like to put some MP3 loops on the net, where I could start to > search for free MP3 web space? > > A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 01:07:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10185; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:07:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:07:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3797D918.5BF36E80@edzone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:42:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area Resent-Message-ID: <"J1j5A2.0.Rp1.WPHgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:01 AM -0700 8/4/99, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >Hey all, > >We made it! The webpage proved harder to do from the road than I >thought, but it's comming soon. Anyway, I'm staying with a friend in San >Jose for now, but soon I'll be settled in Alameda. I'm really looking >forward to meeting the indiginous loop live here (as well as transplanted >loopers such as my self). My web access is a little spotty, but I'll try >to reply to anyone that wants to jam. hey, welcome Mark. But, Alameda?!? no self-respecting looper would live there! Cross the drawbridge, get yerself a loft in fruitvale or west oakland...... well, at least your not deciding to stay in the south bay. When you get settled, maybe its a good time to have a Looper's Delight Bay Area Beer Swilling Event! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 01:13:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11058; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:13:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:13:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A91436.3572EFC9@spnz.org> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 23:33:58 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Didja miss me? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"clZ_C2.0.xd1.jIHgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey kids! I used to be on this list way back when Kim first started it (my address then was dstagner@icarus.net). Then i gave up looping (and all noisemakers electronic) for a while, and delved into acoustic guitar. But a few weeks ago, i bought myself a nice little pink Stratocaster, plugged in the Echotron, the Vortex, and the JamMan, and... Ghod, how i've missed looping! Anyway, i gots a question for other Vortex users... can you recommend a good expression pedal that gets a full-range sweep? I'm currently using a modified ADA expression pedal, but i can't get a full sweep out of it. Right now, it sweeps from 64 down to 15 or so. If i mess with it, i can get it to sweep lower, but only by giving up the full sweep to 64... so far, i've found it more useful to sweep all the way up than all the way down, but it's still irritating. :( Have any of you found something off-the-shelf that works really well? -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 03:08:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26285; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:08:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:08:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37A8A468.707E@voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:50:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD #1 Now for Sale... Resent-Message-ID: <"C-93f.0.wa5.gHJgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, just wanted to chime in here. I finally(!!) got a copy of Looper's Delight CD numero uno last week, and it's great!! Wonderful music, wonderful artwork. Worth the wait in spades! Definitely get a copy, you won't be sorry. There's more info on the LD pages: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/cd1/LDCD1.htm I've listened to a bunch of looper recordings lately, they've all been excellent. Keep it coming! I'll have to post some more glowing recommendations when I get time........ There are some monstrous musicians on this list, I'm really impressed! kim At 1:36 PM -0700 8/4/99, Legion wrote: >A few orders have come in and those CDs will go out this week. Thanks! >Almost 50 people expressed interest in buying them but the orders are >not coming in. please don't wait. If you want we need your order ASAP so >we can start paying back costs to the Web site. > > >Here's the skinny once again: > >=================== >The reissue of the Looper's Delight Subscriber's CD #1 is now available >directly from Help Wanted Productions via Mail order. > >Costs are $12.00 US including shipping anywhere in the United States and >$13.00 including shipping to Canada or anywhere else in the world. > >Proceeds will go to the Looper's Delight Web site to help pay ISP and >other costs. > >Full ordering info (Address, payment methods, etc) can be found at: > >Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/catalog.html > >Print out the order form from the link on this page and put down the >name and #'s of CDs you want. >Mail it in and you'll get the goods in 2-4 weeks tops! > >A brief description and link to the LD web page can be found under the >Compilation CD section. This release was professionally duplicated with >on disc printing and the covers are the full color originals Ray made >back when this began. > >For full info check out the LD web page link at: >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/cd1/LDCD1.htm > >Prefered method of payment is a USPS MO. Checks are accepted but may >take longer to process. >(PLEASE make sure checks are valid and will not bounce!). >CASH is at your own risk. If I get it, I promise you'll get your CDs. >All MOs, checks, etc. should be in US funds and made payable to Help >Wanted Productions. > >There are plenty of CDs for everyone who already requested them and more >so please send those orders in now and tell your friends. > >Thanks for all your patience on this project. The CDs look and sound >GREAT! Thanks to Ray Peck for starting the whole thing and getting the >fantastic covers done as well as Kim Flint and Michael Peters for >helping me organize this monster and getting it re-released. > >There are links galore all over the catalog with info on other music HWP >sells, check them out if you so desire. The Web site houses a gallery of >unusual instruments and an extensive page of electronic music links to >other site, artists, and instruments including a page on the Roland >GR300/GR33b guitar synths. If anyone has any questions feel free to >contact me and I'll try and help you out. It all free so as AB sings >"Dig me but don't bury me". > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion >"Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > >Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and >info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 02:59:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24425; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:59:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:59:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:36:11 EDT Subject: Re: Didja miss me? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"5grYc2.0.185.C5Jgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dave: The Roland EV-5 works well with the Vortex. Should be able to find one for about $70. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 04:25:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA01178; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:25:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 04:25:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3797D918.5BF36E80@edzone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:10:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area Resent-Message-ID: <"3JVdW2.0.R5.8XKgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:42 PM -0700 8/4/99, Kim Flint wrote: >hey, welcome Mark. But, Alameda?!? no self-respecting looper would live >there! Cross the drawbridge, get yerself a loft in fruitvale or west >oakland...... Hey, I "grew up" in Alameda. It's pretty loopy. Alameda is "The Land That Time Forgot", and, seemingly, proud of it. Chris _________________________________________________________ The optimist sees a glass half full... | Chris Muir The pessimist sees a glass half empty... | cbm@well.com The realist sees a glass twice as big as it needs to be. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 10:56:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11008; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:56:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:56:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990805143840.3376.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Subject: echoplex in august? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"PlP2O.0.pJ2.bEQgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey - Any news on WHEN in August the EDP is due out? MT === ************************************************************* This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. Thanks. ************************************************************* _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 11:08:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12863; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:08:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:08:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BEDF30.D5CDA140@tor-usr30.060028.aracnet.net> From: Jon Grant To: "Loopers-Delight (E-mail)" Subject: cheap electronics parts? Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:51:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id KAA11344 Resent-Message-ID: <"wuU473.0.Zn2.YQQgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I need to rewire my studio, and was wondering what some of the best and cheapest places to mail order basic parts like 1/4" audio jacks and other common things are. I live in Canada, so only North American places, please. Thanks, Jon Grant Tian Music http://www.aracnet.net/~tianmus From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 12:52:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30737; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:52:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:52:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990805143840.3376.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:36:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: echoplex in august? Resent-Message-ID: <"i9enA3.0.jd6.5tRgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com gibson hasn't said anything at all (including about august, actually...). You should call them. kim >Hey - > >Any news on WHEN in August the EDP is due out? > >MT >=== >************************************************************* >This is a web-based account I use when I can't access my "normal" mail >account. Please reply to my regular address at 'm1cha3l@earthlink.net'. >Thanks. >************************************************************* >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 13:07:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02077; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:07:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:07:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A9C156.B1486566@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:52:44 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: cheap electronics parts? References: <01BEDF30.D5CDA140@tor-usr30.060028.aracnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SqIYR3.0.cR7.34Sgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jon Grant wrote: > I need to rewire my studio, and was wondering what some of the best and cheapest places to mail order basic parts like 1/4" audio jacks and other common things are. I live in Canada, so only North American places, please. full compass (!) 800.356.5844 lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 13:08:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02410; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:08:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:08:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A9BE6B.7DE3B0FF@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:40:16 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area References: <3797D918.5BF36E80@edzone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"oO06p3.0.6q6.OvRgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Chris Muir wrote: > At 9:42 PM -0700 8/4/99, Kim Flint wrote: > >hey, welcome Mark. But, Alameda?!? no self-respecting looper would live > >there! Cross the drawbridge, get yerself a loft in fruitvale or west > >oakland...... > > Hey, I "grew up" in Alameda. It's pretty loopy.... i understand (ok, second-hand, but...) that alameda is really quite cool, with lots of available industrial space. what's the truth, kim? lance g. ps looping in fruitvale... smells like breakfast cereal. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 13:24:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05061; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:24:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:24:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908051700.NAA00488@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: HD Audio delay Date: Thu, 5 Aug 99 09:59:09 -0700 x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Matt Peterson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"DVO4D3.0._A.eDSgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sean, VisionDSP probably has a memory buffer setting somewhere (I'm used to ProTools and haven't used Vision for quite some time). If you set the buffer to the lowest possible size you'll get much less delay. Reset it to higher values after recording so you can use more plug-ins. Also, don't use any plug-ins in real-time. They will inevitably cause delays. Matt 8/4/99 5:22 PM Sean Witters (seanwitters@hotmail.com) wrote: >I'm using a 400Mhz Powerbook G3 w/ 192 megs RAM and a 6GB hard drive running >Opcode VisionDSP and I've noticed an increased delay between the acutal note >played and the note being recorded. I'm using the 16bit audio in and running >the G3 enhanced Acadia/Soundmanager for my Audio source. Any help here? >I'm getting really frustrated. I just added some VST pluggins, might they >be the source? > >Thanks, Sean Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 13:46:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10387; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:46:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:46:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:31:17 -0700 Message-ID: <00001E1D.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: Continuous Control & Rolls To: ccohen@voicenet.com, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"_4NOn3.0.aw1.ZjSgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > one pedal > one CC#, no scaling (on the pedals) >> Also... are the individiual switches programmable? pc's, cc values... Switches send individual PgmCh's, directly entered by number or a PgmCh map, which is 8 PgmCh commands to different channels... can be 127 such maps (only one CC# layout held in memory at a time) Thanks Charles... It's interesting that there are so few full featured controllers out there. Probably not enough of us to warrant it... I'll look at the Rocktron All Access manual one more time to see if it does more than cc's and pgm chg's. Thank goodness for the PMC-10! best, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 13:59:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16858; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:59:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:59:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990805172932.56743.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [204.48.18.79] From: "P.Boss Music" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: status of order for vol 2 Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:29:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"K0WZq1.0.-j2.NwSgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm a little confused; did you get my check? 'it's ok if there's a delay in me getting the CD, but i was wondering: 1. if you got the check...2 Can you fill the order for (not the vol one cd, but the vol 2 cd), and 3. when was/will it be shipped. thanks a lot. I am very anxious to hear it! - Patty ----Original Message Follows---- From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looper's Delight CD #1 Now for Sale... Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 21:00:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 >From loopers-delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 4 18:14:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost)by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09852;Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:15:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:15:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990804210021.007968e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) In-Reply-To: <37A8A468.707E@voicenet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"JFLvR3.0.Ih1.71Egt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cliche though it may well be, but the check's in the mail... Tim At 04:36 PM 8/4/99 -0400, you wrote: >A few orders have come in and those CDs will go out this week. Thanks! >Almost 50 people expressed interest in buying them but the orders are >not coming in. please don't wait. If you want we need your order ASAP so >we can start paying back costs to the Web site. Full ordering info (Address, payment methods, etc) can be found at: > >Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/catalog.html _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 14:17:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23197; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:17:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:17:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990805180147.28176.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [204.48.18.79] From: "P.Boss Music" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: HD Audio delay Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:01:47 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"E25fk2.0.kW4.l7Tgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Matt - Are you using a mixer? On my setup, I had this problem (not MIDI, right? - because that's a dif. issue). One simple thing that is very helpful is just to mute the track you're recording onto- mute it in VIsion. You will still record it, but the monitor you will hear will be coming from your mixer (keyboard, whatever) before it goes in, and on the return from the computer you will hear all the tracks but not the delayed new track you are recording. does this make sense? also, using a mixture of mute/ alt 3-4 sends on your mixer can route things the way you want them (ie; hearing previous tracks, but not having them go back into the new track you're recording. Patty Boss ----Original Message Follows---- From: Matt Peterson Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com To: Subject: Re: HD Audio delay Date: Thu, 5 Aug 99 09:59:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 >From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 05 10:22:55 1999 Received: from [209.239.39.1] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id MHotMailB973136C0117D820F3B5D1EF27010AED0; Thu Aug 05 10:22:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost)by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05026;Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:24:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:24:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908051700.NAA00488@rosy.yourwebhost.com> x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 Resent-Message-ID: <"DVO4D3.0._A.eDSgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sean, VisionDSP probably has a memory buffer setting somewhere (I'm used to ProTools and haven't used Vision for quite some time). If you set the buffer to the lowest possible size you'll get much less delay. Reset it to higher values after recording so you can use more plug-ins. Also, don't use any plug-ins in real-time. They will inevitably cause delays. Matt 8/4/99 5:22 PM Sean Witters (seanwitters@hotmail.com) wrote: >I'm using a 400Mhz Powerbook G3 w/ 192 megs RAM and a 6GB hard drive running >Opcode VisionDSP and I've noticed an increased delay between the acutal note >played and the note being recorded. I'm using the 16bit audio in and running >the G3 enhanced Acadia/Soundmanager for my Audio source. Any help here? >I'm getting really frustrated. I just added some VST pluggins, might they >be the source? > >Thanks, Sean Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 14:23:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24325; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:23:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:23:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:08:46 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199908051808.OAA23695@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Continuous Control Resent-Message-ID: <"d1Rdg2.0.yC5.AETgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mark Kunzmann spake thusly: > Hey Elaine -- as far as I know the RFC-1 will allow you to use several > footpedals (6?) to send MIDI CCs. Apart from that it is apparently a > very powerful pedalboard which can deal with all manner of MIDI data. I > can't give you any detail because I don't own one (- wouldn't turn one > down though). I've tried to track down Lake Butler Sound but I think > they went out of business some time ago. Anyways, if you can find one of > these I don't think you'll be disappointed. I've copied part of a > message posted by someone here last week about this guy who's selling > one... Ah, the MIDI Mitigator! The keyboard player in my prog band has one that he used to use to control his rig. It sits unused since Bob consolidated everything into one K2500XS fully loaded. But before he stopped using it, I found one at a local music store for $75 as is. This was early 1996 while I was preparing for a local production of JCSuperstar as lead guitar in the pit orch. I sent the unit in to Lake Butler. They said they had left the music biz but continue to support their old music products. They fixed my pedals (the MIDI communications electronics blow out under power surges!) and, for a little extra cash, applied the (4x?) memory upgrade. I used the Mitigator during superstar but I only needed it to send out program changes. And that's the last time I used it, being a bass player most of the time whose (bass) rig is non-MIDI. I'm saving it because it can be programmed with note ons to play synths, samplers, etc. separate from note offs. There is one FC input as I recall. I'd have to check, though. Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 14:52:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32452; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:52:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:52:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <1e83be94.24db3485@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:40:05 EDT Subject: MIDI Foot Controllers and Us (slightly off-topic) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, midiguitar@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"CJR69.0.gy6.NiTgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear all, Well, it's time to start asking silly user questions... I'm needing to snag a MIDI Foot Controller for use with my Roland GR-30 and also with an EDP, ... any suggestions? I was looking at the ART X-15, ART X-21 or the Digitech Control One, any comments or better choices out there? I'm still quite open to suggestions and still looking around, ... and yeah, trying to keep the pricetag in the middle $300.00's USA or less of course! ;) Thanks again, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 15:21:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10257; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:21:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:21:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37A9DF8C.DD4FFD7F@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 15:01:33 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zorn list , Sun Ra and his Arkestra , Phill_Ambient , Avant-Garde , Loopers Delight , Philly Improv , SE Improv Subject: Update for Sunday 8/8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"V8lJ-3.0.Do.x_Tgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just a note to let you know that on 8/8/99 at the Knitting Factory 9 PM August 8th-"Precious Meddle" David C Gross-6 string fretless bass, electronics, loops Peter Hess-bass clarinet Eliott Levin-sax/poetry John Macaluso-drums Joining us will be Sabir Marteen-saxes This is what happens when Albert Ayler plays with AC/DC -- --- David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 15:59:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17319; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:59:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:59:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:11:35 EDT Subject: Re: MIDI Foot Controllers and Us (slightly off-topic) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"f2-W52.0.ON1.Y9Ugt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lee, Just finished a long chat with an engineer from Digital. His company's Ground Control looks pretty good spec.-wise (sic). Bill 'Hawkeye' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 16:23:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21146; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:23:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:23:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <2460128.24db4520@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:50:56 EDT Subject: Re: Didja miss me? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"AElko2.0.g24.ekUgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Welcome back Dave I use a Bespeco VM 18-L with the Vortex it comes from Italy it works just fine, I don't know how it compares to anything else. it sweeps full range every time the pedal doesn't travel very far physically, which is OK unless you wanted to pedal very quickly to an exact value and it's probably a bit cheaper Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 16:37:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23234; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:37:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990805200828.59142.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.78] From: "g716" To: References: Subject: Re: MIDI Foot Controllers and Us (slightly off-topic) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:08:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2918.2701 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2918.2701 Resent-Message-ID: <"hcvAC3.0.bj4.o-Ugt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Lee, > Just finished a long chat with an engineer from Digital. His company's > Ground Control looks pretty good spec.-wise (sic). > > Bill 'Hawkeye' I've got one. It simply sends change control messages and has 2 jacks that'll convert standard guitar volume pedals into MIDI CC devices. Works fine, but WON'T replace your EDP EFC-7, which I was hoping it would. It WILL handle the Feedback and Volume capabilities of the EDP via CC. I got it used via ebay for about $110. Bottom line: changes patches great. alpha readout (a must in my book). wish they still made the PMC-10 I keep hearing about. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 5 20:42:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19491; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:42:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:42:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: msottila owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Sottilaro X-Sender: msottila@rodan.syr.edu To: lance glover cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area In-Reply-To: <37A9BE6B.7DE3B0FF@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"1VjgV3.0.Y74.ReYgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, After spending a day looking at apartments in Hayward, Alameda looked like Heaven. Get me to Starbucks and don't spare the cream! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 01:38:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17569; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:19:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:19:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:59:42 EDT Subject: Re: boomerang users To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"5yMqi2.0.wj2.UTGet"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com david......give mike nelson a buzz..........mnelson@dmans.com it sounds like you might be stepping on the rec button twice, i dont know, sorry............michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 01:42:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16443; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:28:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:28:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002901bedc53$03eccf00$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <000d01bedbd9$05e480c0$02585858@timspc> <001f01bedc0e$d6537880$39c88018@ne.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: More Roland VS info Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:21:10 -0500 X-Priority: 5 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"0eexJ.0.1c2.0t9ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tanks ----- Original Message ----- From: rj lamphear To: Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 6:13 AM Subject: Re: More Roland VS info > > So you're saying the quality is good enough to cut CDs, eh? I don't need > an > > Anita Baker Million Dollar Jazz Paradise quality sound, but I don't want a > > shlocky, canny CD that sounds like an old Misfits bootleg recorded onto a > > microcassette stuffed in some stoner's pocket either. > > Hi, VS-1680 user here. The 1680 is definitely good enough to make CDs on. > If you'd like an example of what it can do, check out Victor Wooten's > (bassist for Bela Fleck Flecktones) new solo CD, "Yin Yang". It was > recorded and mixed completely on the 1680 and its internal effects card. > I've heard a lot of great sounding semi pro and amateur work done on the VS > but this is the first "major" artist I'm aware of who has released VS > tracks. > > Personally, I love the VS platform. It's stable, portable, easy to use once > you have a little practice, and sounds great. > > rj lamphear > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 01:44:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA01859; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:55:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:55:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 03:39:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Headrush/Space Station review Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"txrlc3.0.Pw7.e-mVt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just picked up a Headrush and Space Station. I've only spent a few hours on 'em, but I can give some inital impressions. The headrush is pretty cool, but there are a couple issues. The construction seems a little weak. The case is plastic. It seems ok, but it might be a problem, and it's certainly kinda lame on a box this expensive. The tape delay works ok, and normal delay is completely as expected. The tap tempo is cool for both of these. The looper is pretty weak, imho. Doesn't come close to the 'rang except for the undo feature. For those who don't know, the way the headrush looper works is that you record the first loop and then once it's set you can overdub as many times as you want. If you want, you can blow out your overdubs by hitting a button. I like that, but the interface is kind of weak. You start recording the loop by hitting the right button. If you go over 5.9 seconds in your loop record it won't let you overdub, so the recording light starts flashing as you get close to it. To start the loop going, you hit the left button. This is maybe a little weird, but ok. Hitting the left button again stops the playing. To overdub, you hit the right button again to start overdubbing. While overdubbing if you hit the right button a second time, you blow away all you overdubs. This is kinda lame and took a little getting used to. To stop overdubbing you have to hit the left button again. This is a little goofy. If you're looking for a looper, get the boomerang. If you want the tape delay aspect of it, it's great for that. The space station has been gone over a lot on this list and on the web. So, I'll be more brief. The space station also has some plastic construction that worries me about it as a proffesional pedal. I'd be careful before only taking one for a world tour. Essentially, the SS is a mini vortex in a pedal form with about 1/10th the control available to the player. If you had to choose between it and a vortex (if you can find one), get the vortex. If you want something that just does some very strange sounds that you can't edit too much, go with the SS. I haven't tried the SS and the vortex together, but I bet they would work pretty well in parallel (or maybe even in series, but that might just be evil). later, Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 01:44:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17303; Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:21:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:21:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB19629C3A8@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: 16 second delay Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:07:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2516.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"8hbN63.0.ZU3.pLXZt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have a Roland Space Chorus 301 that has been gathering dust in my room for the last 10 years. Big black box, tape...I haven't done much with it. Does anyone have any information on it? Thanks, Micah Bedwell > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Kapke [SMTP:kapke@sgi.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 1999 8:13 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: 16 second delay > > Greetings, > > I am trying to find out how to get my hands on an Electro-Harmonix 16 > second delay pedal. If any one has any information it would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks > > Eric Kapke > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 01:43:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA32033; Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:06:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:06:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <378CA29A.8C48E801@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:45:46 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Midi controllers References: <19990714140854.83555.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"skX9S3.0.hu6.ZAAZt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all, would anyone have any advice on good, reasonably priced, Midi controllers (I can't seem to find a PMC10 (as advertised on the Looper's Delight Web Page!) with the remote programmer)? I'm a fledgling Midi guitarist looking to add some controls, etc. Thanks for any help Kevin (someone has to bring the level of discussion back down to basics now and again eh?) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 05:29:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA00485; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 05:29:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 05:29:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: "m.hughes" From: "Michael P. Hughes, PhD" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: FW: Have people heard this?? Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:21:11 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bee030$1447bb90$acb6e383@me-biopc-22.mech.surrey.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"yXOM-.0.iv7.Sbggt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Michael P. Hughes, PhD [mailto:nms1mh@micromailer.surrey.ac.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 8:51 AM To: Fabio Katz Cc: mugs Subject: RE: Have people heard this?? > Thanks for your kind words! Fuga y Misterio is one of my all time > favorites, and I'm very happy I found a way to arrange it for Stick and > loops, I enjoy a lot playing it live. I bet! I should say the other stuff on your webpage sounds great too. It's just that FyM is an incredible feat of looping... are you planning to put any more MP3s on the WWW? :) > > Fabio - have you considered getting on the Loopers of the World list on the > > WWWpage? (I remind everyone else about this too). It makes it > > much easier for loopers to get access to each other's work etc. > That sounds very interesting, could you give more more details on how to > join? Go to http://www.annihilist.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=user_start on the L-D webpage - it'll lead you from there. Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 05:57:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA03377; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 05:57:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 05:57:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1e83be94.24db3485@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 02:52:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: MIDI Foot Controllers and Us (slightly off-topic) Resent-Message-ID: <"gMgmB1.0.Uk.l1hgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:40 AM -0700 8/5/99, Phaedebk@aol.com wrote: >Dear all, > > Well, it's time to start asking silly user questions... I'm needing to >snag a MIDI Foot Controller for use with my Roland GR-30 and also with an >EDP, ... any suggestions? I was looking at the ART X-15, ART X-21 or the >Digitech Control One, any comments or better choices out there? I'm still >quite open to suggestions and still looking around, ... and yeah, trying to >keep the pricetag in the middle $300.00's USA or less of course! ;) The only midi footpedals pedals out there with full midi features seem to be the Rocktron AllAccess, Digitech PMC-10, and Roland FC-200. I think the Lake Butler Mitigator is too, but I haven't ever seen the full specs on it. Oh, maybe there's the Bradshaw unit too, although I imagine the Roctron is essentially the same thing. The Rocktron is probably the best, but most expensive. The Roland has tons of features, including a really complete midi implementation, built in expression pedal, and six(!) expression pedal inputs, but the impossibly lame oversight of a 2 digit numeric display and limited memory. The digitech pmc-10 is just right - cheap used, full featured, well designed. Most of the other midi pedals out there just send midi program change and some limited continuous controllers. They're only intended for simple patch switching on rack multieffects, which won't be enough for what you want. steer clear of them, look for the good stuff. good luck, kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 09:54:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26704; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:54:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:54:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199908061339.JAA25771@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"QZ6_22.0.b66.RNkgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #126 August 5, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I began a month-long focus on Belgian atmospheric musician Vidna Obmana and his collaborations. The feature CD at midnight was Ascension of Shadows, a limited edition of 2000 sets on the Projekt label. Vidna's collaborator on this three CD masterpiece is none other than last month's featured artist, Steve Roach. Vidna Obmana : http://www.vidnaobmana.org Steve Roach : http://www.steveroach.com EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================= 11:00 pm VA [Ron Boots] Sleepless Motions Soundscape Gallery Vol3 (Lektronic Soundscapes) Vidna Obmana Floes on Miracles Memories Compiled 2 (Projekt) Michael Garrison Visions of the Aquasun Live Vol 1 (Windspell) Fingerpaint Alone, On a Beach Primary Colors: Blue (FNGP) Stephen Parsick Close Beneath the Surface Traces of the Past (Spheric) Coyote Oldman Light and Mist House Made of Dawn (Hearts of Space) Dom F. Scab Isolated Changes Innerseed (Free Records) 12:00 am V. Obmana & S. Roach Memory Pool 1 Ascension of Shadows (Projekt) V. Obmana & S. Roach Memory Pool 2 Ascension of Shadows (Projekt) V. Obmana & S. Roach Memory Pool 3 Ascension of Shadows (Projekt) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on Vidna Obmana and his various collaborations. The Feature CD at Midnight will be his new release with Serge Devadder on the Multimood label, The Shape of Solitude (Suite for Electric Guitar, Atmospheres, and Recycling). Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 10:00:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27503; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:00:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:00:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32C0BD@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> From: "Wordsman, Lee" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:41:42 -0400 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id JAA26066 Resent-Message-ID: <"0tAm41.0.yN6.qWkgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I lived in Hayward for four years and although it does indeed suck, it's like eden compared to Union City.  Don't forget to stop in a Buffaloe Bill's (A street or C street) if your in the Hayward area again.  It's one of the original brew pubs.  La Imperial (C Street or A Street) also makes a great super burrito.  Being back on the east coast leaves me pineing for a decent plate of mexican food.  My stomach is rumbling at the thought.  Maybe I'll go loop the sounds (feeble attempt to bring some topicality to this post). I'm also checking my mail box daily for LD numero uno. I Can't wait!!!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Sottilaro [ mailto:msottila@mailbox.syr.edu ] > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 8:19 PM > To: lance glover > Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area > > > Hey, > > After spending a day looking at apartments in Hayward, > Alameda looked like > Heaven.  Get me to Starbucks and don't spare the cream! > > Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 11:52:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09910; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:52:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:52:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990806153853.57908.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.130.12] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:38:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"wgefa.0.Uy1.n7mgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yikes don't get me started...I'm thinking we're all slaves...IRS gasoline,taxes up the wazoo.TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Must be time for a Revolution.....well you know, we all want to change the world....a World wide revolution ,Yea come on guys lets go......oops I've only got looping devices...........this is the material world guys...power, greed, control! I decided to be a real revolutionary and get enlightened(very slow process,that's why I brought a sack lunch and a change of clothes)......back to the studio..power to the Loopers Om and Out.......Papa Dave >From: "Michael S. Yoder" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:47:17 -0500 > >At 11:44 PM 7/26/99 -0700, Javier wrote: > >He's making a reference to the fact that most Europeans feel they'd be > >licking nazi boots right now were it not for all those dudes who went > >through WWII for their butts' sake. You don't actually own them, but >they > >feel like you do. > > > > | -----Original Message----- > > | From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mdavig@sfsu.edu] > > | Sent: Monday 26 July 1999 6:06 PM > > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > | Subject: Re: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas > > | > > | > > | Which butts are those? I didn't know I owned any butts. > > | > > | > > | ld thomson wrote: > > | > > | > You Americans. . . . own our butts. . . > > >No, I really don't think ld Thompson is talking about the Marshall Plan and >other facets of U.S. involvement in European wars of this century. He's >most likely talking about "neo-colonialism," a theme all too painful to >many parts of Latin America and other underdeveloped regions. If this is >the case, I'd like to respectfully clarify and/or correct his assertion, >because I agree with the sentiment. Actually, it's MNC's (multi-national >corporations) that "own our butts", some of which are U.S.-based, some of >which are Japanese, European, etc. What we need to discuss is that a >"working stiff" in the U.S. has more in common with a "working stiff" in, >say, Belgium or Brazil than with a capitalist in the U.S. Our class >consciousness must be global. Patriotism and nationalism have a dark, >dangerous side in that they keep us from seeing these material realities. > >. . .just my $.02 >Thanks for listening. >Best wishes to all you Loopers and other subscribers, >Michael. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >Dr. Michael S. Yoder >Assistant Professor of Geography, >Coordinator of Urban Studies >Texas A&M International University >5201 University Blvd. >Laredo, TX 78041 >Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 >Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 12:17:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13880; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:17:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:17:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990806155740.35684.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.20.11.229] From: "ld thomson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:57:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"mE_EK3.0.Jh2.kPmgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am watching my country (Canada) slowly (but not slow enough) turn into a annexed part of the USA. If they had rolled tanks in it would have been no different. It makes me sick. I am old enough to remember a Canada that was different. Thanks Free Trade. >From: "David Potter" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas >Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:38:52 PDT > >Yikes don't get me started...I'm thinking we're all slaves...IRS >gasoline,taxes up the wazoo.TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Must be time >for a Revolution.....well you know, we all want to change the world....a >World wide revolution ,Yea come on guys lets go......oops I've only got >looping devices...........this is the material world guys...power, greed, >control! I decided to be a real revolutionary and get enlightened(very slow >process,that's why I brought a sack lunch and a change of >clothes)......back >to the studio..power to the Loopers > Om and Out.......Papa Dave > > >>From: "Michael S. Yoder" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas >>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:47:17 -0500 >> >>At 11:44 PM 7/26/99 -0700, Javier wrote: >> >He's making a reference to the fact that most Europeans feel they'd be >> >licking nazi boots right now were it not for all those dudes who went >> >through WWII for their butts' sake. You don't actually own them, but >>they >> >feel like you do. >> > >> > | -----Original Message----- >> > | From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mdavig@sfsu.edu] >> > | Sent: Monday 26 July 1999 6:06 PM >> > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> > | Subject: Re: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas >> > | >> > | >> > | Which butts are those? I didn't know I owned any butts. >> > | >> > | >> > | ld thomson wrote: >> > | >> > | > You Americans. . . . own our butts. . . >> >> >>No, I really don't think ld Thompson is talking about the Marshall Plan >>and >>other facets of U.S. involvement in European wars of this century. He's >>most likely talking about "neo-colonialism," a theme all too painful to >>many parts of Latin America and other underdeveloped regions. If this is >>the case, I'd like to respectfully clarify and/or correct his assertion, >>because I agree with the sentiment. Actually, it's MNC's (multi-national >>corporations) that "own our butts", some of which are U.S.-based, some of >>which are Japanese, European, etc. What we need to discuss is that a >>"working stiff" in the U.S. has more in common with a "working stiff" in, >>say, Belgium or Brazil than with a capitalist in the U.S. Our class >>consciousness must be global. Patriotism and nationalism have a dark, >>dangerous side in that they keep us from seeing these material realities. >> >>. . .just my $.02 >>Thanks for listening. >>Best wishes to all you Loopers and other subscribers, >>Michael. >>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> >>Dr. Michael S. Yoder >>Assistant Professor of Geography, >>Coordinator of Urban Studies >>Texas A&M International University >>5201 University Blvd. >>Laredo, TX 78041 >>Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 >>Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu >> >>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== >> > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 12:19:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14378; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:19:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:19:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AB0796.14A4@voicenet.com> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 12:04:38 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: FS: Roland G707 Synth Guitar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"opmZd3.0.r73.Vamgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well in my eternal quest for a Roland G33/G88 bass I am putting my G707 guitar up for sale. This is the silver guitar with the wildass stabilizer bar running accross the top. I have pics I can send if anyone wants to see the model. PLease note this is the guitar w/case ONLY. Not the floor unit or cable. Just a damn cool guitar. The guitar is in excellent condition cosmetically and functionally. I have run a GR700 and GR300 floor unit from this and the electronics are also in top shape. I have decided to keep my G303 guitar for all my roland synth needs so this unit is forsale or trade for a G33/G88 bass. I'd also consider a Casio PG380 guitar or other weird effects, synth drum machine stuff, etc. The guitar comes with the whammy bar and original Hardshell case which is a big deal only because it's custom built to fit this sucker (hard to find a case that will hold it in place right). Manual for GR700 and G707 included. I had the strings changed and set up so it plays great as a guitar in it's own right. (Extra set of new strings included). If you've ever wanted to have a spaceage designed guitar that sounds great too this is the one to get. I'm asking $350 obo plus shipping which I'm told it's certainly worth. A while ago I had some idiot try and sell me a G77 bass (no floor unit or cable) for $650 (that'll teach me to put an ad in Vintage Guitar Mag) so I don't want to give this away but note the OBO as pickup in Phila would be great as well. References out the wazoo. Any questions email me direct. Full info on the tentire Roland Analog GR line including pictures can be found at: Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/guitsyn.htm Thanks for reading. D_ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 12:59:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19405; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:59:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:59:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990806163415.94321.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.130.12] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:34:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"hl80j3.0.314.gxmgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Mark,I'm in Love with Santa Cruz.I live in Corralitos in the mountains near Mt Madonna.Ocean,beach,mountains,volleyball...Am I in heaven or what?I have a small studio on 9 acres in the forrest no neighbors close.....Miko is the only other looper I know of that's in this area....papadave55@hotmail.com We be jammin...Om and out >From: "Wordsman, Lee" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" >Subject: RE: I new looper in the SF area >Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:41:42 -0400 > >I lived in Hayward for four years and although it does indeed suck, it's >like eden compared to Union City.  Don't forget to stop in a Buffaloe >Bill's >(A street or C street) if your in the Hayward area again.  It's one of the >original brew pubs.  La Imperial (C Street or A Street) also makes a great >super burrito.  Being back on the east coast leaves me pineing for a decent >plate of mexican food.  My stomach is rumbling at the thought.  Maybe I'll >go loop the sounds (feeble attempt to bring some topicality to this post). > >I'm also checking my mail box daily for LD numero uno. I Can't wait!!!! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Sottilaro [ mailto:msottila@mailbox.syr.edu > ] > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 8:19 PM > > To: lance glover > > Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > > > Subject: Re: I new looper in the SF area > > > > > > Hey, > > > > After spending a day looking at apartments in Hayward, > > Alameda looked like > > Heaven.  Get me to Starbucks and don't spare the cream! > > > > Mark > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 13:17:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22175; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:17:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:17:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A76DAE39@usilms12.cai.com> From: "Lanpheer, James" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Live sequencing. Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:59:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"UpCxr3.0.ur4.oJngt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com An informal poll: When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using canned sequenced materials? Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot of rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, and the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner notes to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). So, again, i wonder aloud, how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, and perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed time frames). Thanks, Jim Lanpheer. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 13:37:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24652; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:37:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:37:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ed01bee02f$040e8de0$4e2310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Unit Circle Media" , Subject: Re: Headrush/Space Station review Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:10:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ig8gn3.0.SI5.OWngt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kevin Goldsmith wrote: -Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 3:39 AM Subject: Headrush/Space Station review >Just picked up a Headrush and Space Station. I've only spent a few hours >on 'em, but I can give some inital impressions. > >The headrush is pretty cool, but there are a couple issues. The >construction seems a little weak. The case is plastic. Plastic?? I have to look at mine again, but I could swear it was metal, and quite sturdy at that. >It seems ok, but it might be a problem, and it's certainly kinda lame on a box this >expensive. Expensive?? Street/catalog price is about $200. Is there anything that will loop/delay up to 23 seconds at this price? Until the Line 6 delay pedal comes out, I think this is about the least expensive bang-per-buck unit available. >The tape delay works ok, and normal delay is completely as >expected. The tap tempo is cool for both of these. The looper is pretty >weak, imho. Doesn't come close to the 'rang except for the undo feature. And the 'rang is about twice the price of the Headrush, isn't it? >For those who don't know, the way the headrush looper works is that you >record the first loop and then once it's set you can overdub as many times >as you want. If you want, you can blow out your overdubs by hitting a >button. I like that, but the interface is kind of weak. You start >recording the loop by hitting the right button. If you go over 5.9 >seconds in your loop record it won't let you overdub, That would be closer to 11.8 seconds, not 5.9 >so the recording light starts flashing as you get close to it. To start the loop going, >you hit the left button. This is maybe a little weird, but ok. Hitting >the left button again stops the playing. To overdub, you hit the right >button again to start overdubbing. While overdubbing if you hit the right >button a second time, you blow away all you overdubs. This is kinda >lame and took a little getting used to. To stop overdubbing you have to >hit the left button again. This is a little goofy. Yes, it takes a little time to get used to the switching. I wrote out "cue cards" in big letters to remind myself what to do while playing, but is there a simpler way to do what the Headrush does without more switches, LED readouts, etc.? And by the way, how much floor space does the 'rang take up? The 'rush is about 7" x 9". >If you're looking for a looper, get the boomerang. If you want the tape >delay aspect of it, it's great for that. Please don't get me wrong, Kevin, if I seem to be criticising you. Your opinions are very important! For you, the Headrush is lacking. It's also important to be factual (and I'm going to check on the metal/plastic housing A.S.A.P.) and price is an important consideration in this field. For some (like yrs. truly) the extra $200 of a Boomerang is almost two weeks of groceries for my family, or most of the cost of repairing the struts on my car, or a quarter of my mortgage payment. If price is no object, then neither the 'rush nor the 'rang would be in the running, I'd suppose. Buy a bunch of t.c. two thousands or what ever they're called. > > >The space station has been gone over a lot on this list and on the web. >So, I'll be more brief. The space station also has some plastic >construction that worries me about it as a proffesional pedal. I'd be >careful before only taking one for a world tour. Essentially, the SS is a >mini vortex in a pedal form with about 1/10th the control available to the >player. If you had to choose between it and a vortex (if you can find >one), get the vortex. And what's the difference in price (and availability)? If you want something that just does some very >strange sounds that you can't edit too much, go with the SS. I haven't >tried the SS and the vortex together, but I bet they would work pretty >well in parallel (or maybe even in series, but that might just be evil). Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 13:46:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25987; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:46:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:46:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bedwellm@WellsFargo.COM Message-ID: <5BA4EAE4ACF6D211BC540001FA7EB19629C4E5@xcem-casfo-11.wellsfargo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Live sequencing. Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:22:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"QpXif3.0.Hk5.Ringt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Gasparyan record he made for an Earthquake Relief fund has to be one of my favorite all time records. Incredibly moving music. Micah > -----Original Message----- > From: Lanpheer, James [SMTP:James.Lanpheer@cai.com] > Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 10:00 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Live sequencing. > > An informal poll: > > When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using > canned sequenced materials? > > Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the > newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk > player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, > the > presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot > of > rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, > and > the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner > notes > to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was > really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely > programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved > on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology > in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy > the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the > legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). > > So, again, i wonder aloud, how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, > and > perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into > your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software > etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed > time > frames). > > Thanks, > Jim Lanpheer. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 15:08:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05583; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:08:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:08:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003c01bee038$efcfdc80$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Real-time DSP? Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:24:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01BEE017.68A5D280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"iUQm-3.0.4n7.cYogt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BEE017.68A5D280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I'm new to this list so I hope I'm not treading on long-worn = soil. I have a PII-500, and can't help but wonder WHY I can't use this monster as my looper / effects processor / everything. In the state of technology today, is there a piece of software (no = hardware cards or add-ons) that can take a line-in signal and REAL-TIME sample, loop, and/or process the sound? This seems to me to be the next logical step in the evolution of music & = technology. Ken ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BEE017.68A5D280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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In the state of technology today, is there a piece = of software=20 (no hardware
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This seems to me to be the next logical step in the = evolution=20 of music & technology.
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BEE017.68A5D280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 15:31:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08614; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:31:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:31:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: msottila owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:07:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Sottilaro X-Sender: msottila@rodan.syr.edu To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live sequencing. In-Reply-To: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A76DAE39@usilms12.cai.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"ArAzS1.0.MM1.PApgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, I use pre sequenced drum loops and some synth stuff, mostly drones and a few samples, but I improvise all the bass, and guitar stuff live. It's too easy to start seeming like Fripp and Eno kareoke. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 16:39:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17614; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:39:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:39:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: Live sequencing. Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:15:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <"FgQ293.0.Ka3.-9qgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I do not use any sequencing, but an interesting thing happened last night. I saw a few bands play at a place round here in Clearwater, and the room is usually a quiet listening room. However, the middle band, which was 2 guys and a few keyboards, started playing some New Wave-y Depeche Mode sounding stuff, with drums and bass sequenced, and only small melodies and the vocals being live. THe crowd immediately started talking and not paying attention (and they were definately not a roomful of musicians). Maybe the music was boring (I liked it...), but maybe the reaction was to the sequences too. Possibly the crowd likes to watch things being made on stage, who knows. On another note, I have been suprised by how many non-musicians understand live looping when they see it. I have gotten reactions llike 'I saw you play something, and you steped on something, and the thing you played kept repeating'. Interesting. Any other loopers have non-musicians 'catch on' to whats happening? Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave   'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > I use pre sequenced drum loops and some synth stuff, mostly drones and a > few samples, but I improvise all the bass, and guitar stuff live. It's > too easy to start seeming like Fripp and Eno kareoke. > > Mark > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 16:37:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17475; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:37:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:37:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:12:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199908062012.WAA06896@relay.datanet.hu> X-Sender: pop1678@mail.euroweb.hu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Adam Davidson (from HiTSPACE)" Subject: Re: Real-time DSP? Resent-Message-ID: <"08bVc2.0.YW3.m7qgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 02:24 PM 8/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, I'm new to this list so I hope I'm not treading on long-worn soil. > >I have a PII-500, and can't help but wonder WHY I can't use this monster >as my looper / effects processor / everything. > >In the state of technology today, is there a piece of software (no hardware >cards or add-ons) that can take a line-in signal and REAL-TIME sample, >loop, and/or process the sound? > >This seems to me to be the next logical step in the evolution of music & technology. > > >Ken Hey Ken, actually there's SOFTWARE out there, but it's half as not as cool (IMHO) as hardware stuff. -> if you plan to bring your computer to stage, think of Billy and his reliable Windows operating system. Shortly: never ever try it. -> if you want to use computer for such purpose, you'll have to be a computer expert aswell. even if you are already, you'll have problems. i mean technical pitfalls that you'll face sooner or later, and it'll drive you nuts. -> you wont get a dedicated control surface either -> the soundcards are still very very much under the hardware equipment. even the most expensive ones. -> if you want your cool 500MHZ computer to do a little bit of this and a little bit of that, it'll simply run out of juice, even if it seems to be lightningfast. -> the latency is a big problem in computers. the windows and the bus system (and the hardware) not quite optimized for such tasks like audio. an example: windows has a timing instability of +/- 100 ms, which is comparing to the human ear's 10ms is a bit lame. if you want to add some random swinging to your play or sequence, then this is the way to go, but probably this is not the case. actually this latency is the nature of the protection system of the OS. so, my suggestion is: get a slower pc (or rather buy a PC for a task instead of buy the fastest pc, and then figure out what you can do with it), save money, and buy hardware instead: in the case you are a professional. the pc is good for playing around and learning things, and it wont break the bank. (well,except ofcourse if you buy the most expensive hardware). also notice, that your pc will worth only the half of the current value, which makes it a very very bad investment. it'll always be like you throwing money out of the window. anyway, this stuff is based on MY experience, but i can imagine anyone living happy with his pc and soundcard. we are different, and everyone has to find his own way of working. good luck to it, but mind: this world is very imperfect : this case you'll be in for a surprise never. a/d From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 17:00:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20153; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:00:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:00:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990806203159.006b751c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:31:59 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Resent-Message-ID: <"YfdQJ3.0.a54.qPqgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi I'm using my new Yamaha RM1x sequencer to play along samplings and loops on stage.... the unit is really excellent... great for live playing and improvisation... no other seq has the same features... I've tested a lot of sequencers and the RM1x is quite unique... you can modify in real time the whole structure of the song if you need it... I use it often in open improvisation, free "electronica" jams... My setup is quite simple: the A3000 sampler is loaded with my own samples and loops, the RM1x triggers them and I alternate between Stick/bass and the buttons/knobs of the unit to play the electronica stuff in real time (cut off/resonance, heavy processing, muting parts, patterns switching, etc.). ciao leo "waiting for its new Warwick Thumb fretless 6 strings" :) At 12.59 06/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >An informal poll: > >When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using >canned sequenced materials? > >Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the >newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk >player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the >presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot of >rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, and >the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner notes >to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was >really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely >programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved >on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology >in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy >the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the >legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). > >So, again, i wonder aloud, how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, and >perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into >your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software >etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed time >frames). > >Thanks, >Jim Lanpheer. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 16:58:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19785; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:58:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:58:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990806202848.2221.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.129.41] From: "David Potter" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: mixer, pmc 10 , waldorf 4 pole filter Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 13:28:48 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"ZYeOq1.0.a04.YNqgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yo, guys... still searching for a mixer to deal with my loopy needs. any Roland M120 or M240 out there? I really want to have 2 aux sends........ also How about a PMC 10 by digitech?ha ha I just thought I'd ask.Miko said you should call me first.....ha ha ha - 831 7249194 and a ( Waldorf 4 pole filter?) Any help would be Great... thanks,papadave55@hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 16:59:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19894; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:59:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:59:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:38:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Info on old Lexicons? Resent-Message-ID: <"FpuXe2.0.8K4.-Vqgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings fellow loopers- Does anyone know of any sites with information on old Lexicon reverb and delay units? Sometimes these units pop up for sale, and it'd be nice to be able to gather information on specs, algorithms, etc. Any other sites with info on interesting old delay/reverb devices would be great to know about, too. Thanks- Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 17:31:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23800; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:31:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:31:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <004001bee04d$2b5384f0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:49:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"7bXt32.0.4w4.Npqgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Any other loopers have non-musicians 'catch on' to >whats happening? Yeah. By my experience, the audience is pretty quick. Explanations seem unnecessary. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 17:59:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27528; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:59:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:59:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006b01bee050$f271eab0$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Re: Real-time DSP? Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:16:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"gI17g3.0._Q5.c3rgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >actually there's SOFTWARE out there, but it's half as not as cool (IMHO) >as hardware stuff. > >-> if you plan to bring your computer to stage, think of Billy and his > reliable Windows operating system. Shortly: never ever try it. I know all about Billy Boy's refusal to make a good OS.. I was thinking of Linux or DOS apps as well. > >-> if you want to use computer for such purpose, you'll have to be > a computer expert aswell. even if you are already, you'll have problems. > i mean technical pitfalls that you'll face sooner or later, and it'll drive > you nuts. I've FAR more expertise in computers than I do in effects processors. I've been playing music for 25 years, but effects are almost foreign to me (Coming from a classical background) > >-> you wont get a dedicated control surface either IE: Knobs? >-> if you want your cool 500MHZ computer to do a little bit of this and > a little bit of that, it'll simply run out of juice, even if it seems > to be lightningfast. I know the limitations of CPU speed. I also have an 80MB/s SCSI bus which can easily record on-the-fly 16 tracks.. > >-> the latency is a big problem in computers. the windows and the bus system > (and the hardware) not quite optimized for such tasks like audio. > an example: windows has a timing instability of +/- 100 ms, > which is comparing to the human ear's 10ms is a bit lame. > if you want to add some random swinging to your play or sequence, then > this is the way to go, but probably this is not the case. > actually this latency is the nature of the protection > system of the OS. Again: I was hoping maybe Linux or a DOS app, which would get MS out of the picture, and bring us closer to the hardware, and thus closer to a good latency. > >so, my suggestion is: get a slower pc (or rather buy a PC for a task instead >of buy the fastest pc, and then figure out what you can do with it), save >money, and >buy hardware instead: in the case you are a professional. >the pc is good for playing around and learning >things, and it wont break the bank. (well,except ofcourse if you buy the most >expensive hardware). also notice, that your pc will worth only the half of the >current value, which makes it a very very bad investment. it'll always be >like you throwing money out of the window. 1) I have a dozen PC's sitting around in various states of repair.. As I said, I'm quite knowledgable about computers. You don't have to tell me about the problems inherent in purchasing hardware. (I also use the computer to do consulting work, so... It makes it worthwhile :) So... Those who have tried out the real-time effects processing software out there, can you say if any are worth their merit? Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 17:53:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26705; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:53:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:53:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: doug@pop.lightlink.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A76DAE39@usilms12.cai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:19:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Resent-Message-ID: <"IcVz.0.-a5.A8rgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:59 -0400 8/6/99, Lanpheer, James wrote: > So, again, i wonder aloud, how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, and > perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into > your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software > etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed time > frames). Well, "successful integration" is subjective :) I've tried to keep the canned parts down to backgrounds, without any obtrusive parts that make you wonder, "who played that?" It seems to need not to be a large part of the mix, though that raises tricky questions of having it at least loud enough that the humans can follow its time. I've used Opcode's Vision (and its predecessor, Sequencer) live since 1986. To address the problems you mention: - Vision files can have large numbers of sequences in a document, so I have one document containing the whole set. No long load times, except when loading my sampler (where I also try to have multiple songs in memory, when possible). - Frequently a sequence will come to a looping, or very long, section. This makes it effectively variable-length, since I can press a key to trigger another sequence (on the next measure boundary if necessary). Doug -- Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com Sonosphere (electric/improv music) http://www.sonosphere.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 18:14:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29563; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:14:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:14:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <2d4fb582.24dcb010@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:39:28 EDT Subject: boomerang vs. headrush To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"Cnst02.0.IA6.uPrgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't want to start any wars but I was all set to buy a Headrush but now it seems possible (if i work a little overtime) for me to get a boomerang. what i want to know is since the rang is at least twice the money is it twice as good as looper? i don't care about the headrush's tape simulation... i want a good looper that's easy to use live with a simple guitar set up (no midi or anything). i know this subject has come up before but there seems to be a lot of mixed views as of late. Anyone own both? Is the rang worth the extra bucks? (what should i expect to pay for the rang?) thanks in advance jack From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 18:46:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02548; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:46:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:46:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901bee058$c06c00c0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <199908062012.WAA06896@relay.datanet.hu> Subject: Re: Real-time DSP? Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:12:17 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"30Tf1.0.D67.Csrgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > so, my suggestion is: get a slower pc (or rather buy a PC for a task instead > of buy the fastest pc, and then figure out what you can do with it), save > money, and buy hardware instead I disagree: *always* buy the fastest and best computer you can; it's not that much more money and you get a more time out of it before Moore's law renders it obsolete and you have to upgrade/replace it. Besides, figuring out what you can do with good equipment is half the fun of owning it! I discovered that fact while going through puberty, by the way... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 19:26:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06553; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:26:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:26:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5742@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: boomerang vs. headrush Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:45:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"Vq6Y91.0.Ug.kOsgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i don't have a boomerang, but i would think that the reverse and half/twice speed (right?) functions would be worth it. the headrush has neither. if you want those capabilities, i would go for it. or you could wait for the line 6 thing to see how that works. i got the headrush because it was small, had echo simulation, digital and a tap-tempo looper (which my eh16 doesn't have). i think that the akai is fairly decent for what it does. no complaints except the somewhat confusing start or loop/end of loop switch interface (problem?) that others have mentioned. stig > I don't want to start any wars but I was all set to buy a Headrush but now > it > seems possible (if i work a little overtime) for me to get a boomerang. > what i want to know is since the rang is at least twice the money is it > twice as good as looper? i don't care about the headrush's tape > simulation... i want a good looper that's easy to use live with a simple > guitar set up (no midi or anything). i know this subject has come up > before > but there seems to be a lot of mixed views as of late. Anyone own both? > Is > the rang worth the extra bucks? (what should i expect to pay for the > rang?) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 19:27:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06735; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:27:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:27:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Real-time DSP? Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001901bee058$c06c00c0$02585858@timspc> Resent-Message-ID: <"pDzpn1.0.Os.TVsgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I disagree: *always* buy the fastest and best computer you can; it's not that >much more money and you get a more time out of it before Moore's law renders >it obsolete and you have to upgrade/replace it. Besides, figuring out what >you can do with good equipment is half the fun of owning it! I discovered >that fact while going through puberty, by the way... I disagree with your disagreement. Buy the second fastest, best computer. This is where the really big price drop occurs, and it stays pretty current a long time. Furthermore, buy a 2 processor motherboard but just one processor. I am very happy I did this, because as soon as the DX drivers for w2k come along, I'll be able to double my processor speed for a couple of hundred bucks (practically) and keep my computer current even longer. I discovered all this during puberty too, which wasn't nearly as fun as yours, which also explains why my answer is so much better. bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 20:15:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12335; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:15:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:15:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:55:08 -0700 Message-ID: <00001F45.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: boomerang vs. headrush To: LiebigSA@Maritz.com, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"fb9jF3.0.LW2.rQtgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Get a grip guys! Just a note that Mr. Liebig has at least two looping devices... an EH-16 sec delay *and* the Headrush. If there were any other good, small, non-midi floor based devices I'll bet he'd have them on his shopping list as well... which brings me to this point: If you can only get one looper and *really* wont get another one, and don't mind a rack mount or large floor size, of course, Get the best one you can get. EDP or Boomerang... Boomerange is arguably the best currently available floor unit going despite the fact it's not MIDI... When the EH-16 reissue comes along maybe we can all argue the merits of that. I'm staying away from DAW based solutions right now just because. Those of you willing to hump computers to gigs, more power to ya! If small is what you want then the Headrush, Line 6, DOD DFX4 or any of the shorter 2 sec delays with good 100% non disappearing feedback are all good choices and the more the merrier! But now let's get real here... One looper!? You gotta be kidding! First you need a good cloud looper with variable feedback. Then you need a good long ass delay line, with many cool functions like the EDP. Then you need another freaky delay, multi-fx unit to spaz out your clouds,and spin off more loopage, and another to stereoize your long looper. Or two long loopers to get it in stereo originally. Don't forget some sort of analog filter bank to wump and whomp it and crank on that cutoff knob... Admittedly, I come from the stereo, direct inject camp, and hump a boatload of gear and midi control wherever I go. Maybe the computer thing is another step I may arrive at sooner than I'd like... Have a great weekend everyone! -Miko Steuart Liebig wrote... > i don't have a boomerang, but i would think that the reverse and half/twice > speed (right?) functions would be worth it. the headrush has neither. if you > want those capabilities, i would go for it. or you could wait for the line 6 > thing to see how that works. > i got the headrush because it was small, had echo simulation, digital and a > tap-tempo looper (which my eh16 doesn't have). i think that the akai is fairly > decent for what it does. no complaints except the somewhat confusing start or > loop/end of loop switch interface (problem?) that others have mentioned. Someone else wrote... >> I don't want to start any wars but I was all set to buy a Headrush but now >> it seems possible (if i work a little overtime) for me to get a boomerang. >> what i want to know is since the rang is at least twice the money is it >> twice as good as looper? i don't care about the headrush's tape >> simulation... i want a good looper that's easy to use live with a simple >> guitar set up (no midi or anything). i know this subject has come up before >> but there seems to be a lot of mixed views as of late. Anyone own both? >> Is the rang worth the extra bucks? (what should i expect to pay for the >> rang?) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 21:10:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16985; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:10:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:10:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006001bee06c$9c58aee0$22c4aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A76DAE39@usilms12.cai.com> Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:34:23 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"XL4D81.0.ab3.-0ugt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I caught the Gasparyan/Brook show this past Monday in San Francisco. My sentiments are similar: Too much tech., not enough Gasparyan. I did enjoy Michael Brook's playing but it seemed, at times, that Gasparyan seemed awkwardly uncomfortable. Michael Brook did say that it was only the 2nd time they ever performed together live so that may have something to do with it. Some of the "loopage" I liked but there was a definite lack of spontaneity which seems to be an inevitable trade off when using sequenced material. Despite the shortcomings, however, I did leave with a favorable opinion of the show. Personally, I'm still compiling some "pre-fab" recording for my solo performance set but I'm certainly trying to keep the emphasis on real-time looping and improvisation. As has been stated on the list in the past, there is a fine line where pre-recorded material becomes a detriment and not a benefit. I feel that, at times, Michael Brook and Djivan Gasparyan may have crossed that line a few times at their SF performance. > An informal poll: > > When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using > canned sequenced materials? > > Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the > newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk > player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the > presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot of > rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, and > the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner notes > to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was > really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely > programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved > on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology > in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy > the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the > legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). > > So, again, i wonder aloud, how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, and > perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into > your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software > etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed time > frames). > > Thanks, > Jim Lanpheer. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 21:40:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19788; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:40:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:40:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009b01bee06e$21fff700$22c4aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <2d4fb582.24dcb010@aol.com> Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:45:19 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"cej3l1.0.to3.VBugt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If I could afford a Boomerang, I'd get one. However, I could only afford a Headrush and, for the money, I have no complaints. My other primary looper is a DOD Dimension 12 which is comparably priced but definitely not cooler. (If I was patient, I would have saved the money I spent the past year or so on the Headrush and D12 and bought a Boomerang). I look at the Headrush and D12 as low price range loopers whereas the 'Rang is the next level up in price and features. Comparing a 'Rang to a Headrush is not "apples to apples". > I don't want to start any wars but I was all set to buy a Headrush but now it > seems possible (if i work a little overtime) for me to get a boomerang. > what i want to know is since the rang is at least twice the money is it > twice as good as looper? i don't care about the headrush's tape > simulation... i want a good looper that's easy to use live with a simple > guitar set up (no midi or anything). i know this subject has come up before > but there seems to be a lot of mixed views as of late. Anyone own both? Is > the rang worth the extra bucks? (what should i expect to pay for the rang?) > > thanks in advance > jack > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 22:07:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22382; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:07:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:07:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:28:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Resent-Message-ID: <"PGLJc3.0.cR4.Xgugt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >An informal poll: > >When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using >canned sequenced materials? I've just started a new group, currently a trio with a drummer that doubles on turntables and a bassist who loops. I'm playing rhodes, modular synth, sampler, etc. Our goal is to be a cross betweem Herbie Hancock's Sextant band and DJ Spooky. In this group, I'm using a Roland MC303 drum machine/sequencer, and an analog step sequencer in the modular. We've had a couple of gigs now, and I feel like we're figuring out a few things about the machine/human-time connundrum. I use the MC303 as a master clock for all my stuff, because it has a tap tempo to quickly sync it to the rhythm section or the turntables. I think this is pretty important, to make the machine-driven stuff a little more flexible. If I set the tempo with the MC303 at the start of a piece, the band follows it and I generally don't have to adjust. If the drummer starts a piece, I'll sync to him and keep following him. This seems to really help the flow. Also, I don't have complete tracks sequenced, maybe just drum loops and a few percussive synth tracks at a time. I try to make the sequenced parts really obvious, and to leave holes for the 3 of us to play parts that fit into the grooves. Also, I have things set up so when we move to different sections, I have to trigger them manually, no sections are a fixed length. Another thing is that I don't sync everything up. The bassist uses a boomerang for looping, I use a vortex and a jamman, but it's not MIDI-synced. It keeps us more awake trying to do loops that work in real time, and if it drifts, that's OK too. I use Vision as my main computer-based sequencer, and it offers a lot of flexibility for live stuff as well, you can use keys from the computer keyboard or MIDI notes to trigger new sections, things like that. I'd just rather not take a computer to gigs. > >Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the >newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk >player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the >presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot of >rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, and >the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner notes >to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was >really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely >programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved >on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology >in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy >the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the >legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). > Sounds like a fairly disappointing show, too bad because Gasparyan is an amazing musician. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 23:35:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30318; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:35:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:35:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:12:07 EDT Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"p2Qd31.0.Uw6.lHwgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have you checked out a Zoom 2100? We got one for $109. It's quite a looping bargain...and we've tried all the contemporary loopers including the Headrush and Boomerang. Best, Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 6 23:35:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30307; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:35:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:35:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008401bee084$96027180$2096adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Info on old Lexicons? Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:26:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"ppU7b.0.9m6.b9wgt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mark save yourself the bother of researching the old PCM 60's and 70s drop $220 or so on an MPX 100 which is a great box for the money take the extra $ you saved and get a Digitech RDS 8000 and a Vortex or a Jamman--much more bang for the buck than a "vintage" 60 or 70 my two cents Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Mark Landman To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, August 06, 1999 4:18 PM Subject: Info on old Lexicons? >Greetings fellow loopers- > >Does anyone know of any sites with information on old Lexicon reverb and >delay units? > >Sometimes these units pop up for sale, and it'd be nice to be able to >gather information on specs, algorithms, etc. > >Any other sites with info on interesting old delay/reverb devices would be >great to know about, too. > >Thanks- > >Mark > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 04:05:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27173; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 04:05:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 04:05:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 03:41:19 EDT Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush vs. daw vs.midi vs. zoom vs.? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"rimHS3.0.TB6.2G-gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it is your sworn duty as a looper, a citizen of the world, to spend all of your money, in the never-ending quest to create the perfect loop........................at times i get cornfused.........................:)...................................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 04:25:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA28767; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 04:25:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 04:25:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <6cab4d30.24dd3fbd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 03:52:29 EDT Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"rXT1z2.0.sO6.zP-gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear all, Have to concur with the last post concerning the Zoom 2100, it is a great unit, though I have to admit, I prefer using the Boomerang for loops, the Zoom 2100 usually gets relegated to the role of different effects and the occasional sample and hold, but that's just my $0.02 for that one. I will say that the extra $30.00 for the expression pedal is EXTREMELY worth it. As for the original post concerning whether or not you'd want to go for the Akai Headrush or the Boomerang, it really matters up to you, and what you're looking to use the looper for... In my case, I end up using the Boomerang to create multiple drones and eventually get around to soloing over top of the loops that are generated in the Boomerang. The reverse is probably the coolest "effect" on this beastie, though you have to remember that it is going to play everything in reverse that was sampled prior, and not just what you added. Have to say that in lots of ways it reminds me of my old (tape) echoplexi but is MUCH quieter. Not sure if the Headrush has this issue, but you'll really want to watch out for any line level equipment and you'll also want to take a few steps back occasionally. It (the Boomerang) has a very tiny learning curve, but that's it, the unit is really intuitive! Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 05:03:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA32337; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 05:03:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 05:03:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37ABF3C9.AA0@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 01:52:26 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live sequencing. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6u9jP3.0._A7.yx-gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm now playing w/a tabla player who also uses an udo(thanks for hooking us up Bobdog!) and I'm THRILLED!! w/how it sounds.I guese it's a value of mine to create everything on the spot. Kungha From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 07:00:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08466; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 07:00:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 07:00:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990807102941.00688abc@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 12:29:41 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Resent-Message-ID: <"OEtJT.0.zX1.Bh0ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com interesting dave can we hear something? leo At 18.28 06/08/99 -0700, you wrote: >>An informal poll: >> >>When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using >>canned sequenced materials? > >I've just started a new group, currently a trio with a drummer that doubles >on turntables and a bassist who loops. I'm playing rhodes, modular synth, >sampler, etc. Our goal is to be a cross betweem Herbie Hancock's Sextant >band and DJ Spooky. In this group, I'm using a Roland MC303 drum >machine/sequencer, and an analog step sequencer in the modular. We've had a >couple of gigs now, and I feel like we're figuring out a few things about >the machine/human-time connundrum. > >I use the MC303 as a master clock for all my stuff, because it has a tap >tempo to quickly sync it to the rhythm section or the turntables. I think >this is pretty important, to make the machine-driven stuff a little more >flexible. If I set the tempo with the MC303 at the start of a piece, the >band follows it and I generally don't have to adjust. If the drummer starts >a piece, I'll sync to him and keep following him. This seems to really help >the flow. > >Also, I don't have complete tracks sequenced, maybe just drum loops and a >few percussive synth tracks at a time. I try to make the sequenced parts >really obvious, and to leave holes for the 3 of us to play parts that fit >into the grooves. Also, I have things set up so when we move to different >sections, I have to trigger them manually, no sections are a fixed length. > >Another thing is that I don't sync everything up. The bassist uses a >boomerang for looping, I use a vortex and a jamman, but it's not >MIDI-synced. It keeps us more awake trying to do loops that work in real >time, and if it drifts, that's OK too. > >I use Vision as my main computer-based sequencer, and it offers a lot of >flexibility for live stuff as well, you can use keys from the computer >keyboard or MIDI notes to trigger new sections, things like that. I'd just >rather not take a computer to gigs. >> >>Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the >>newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk >>player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the >>presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot of >>rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, and >>the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner notes >>to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was >>really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely >>programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved >>on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology >>in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy >>the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the >>legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). >> >Sounds like a fairly disappointing show, too bad because Gasparyan is an >amazing musician. > >________________________________________________________ >Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ > >"...there will come a day when you won't have to use >gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in >your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper >type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em >together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em >together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." > -Sun Ra >________________________________________________________ > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 10:44:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26975; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:44:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:44:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2d4fb582.24dcb010@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:16:27 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush Resent-Message-ID: <"zOmEu3.0.Nx5.Wx3ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >what i want to know is since the rang is at least twice the money is it >twice as good as looper?...> >thanks in advance >jack Depends on what you're calling "good". It may have twice the features, but it also has half the bandwidth, if I'm not mistaken. 'Rang users may want to correct me. Also, as I recall, it's about six times the size. Now maybe if we have a math professor among us, he can come up with an equation.... As far as the Headrush casing, if anyone can determine whether it's metal or plastic I'd be curious to know. It's either the most plastic-looking finish on metal, or the toughest looking plastic I've ever seen. Short of melting it down to find out (don't laugh, I've done such things), I'm pretty convinced it's metal. David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 13:44:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11925; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:44:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:44:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AC5E73.BA7DA830@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 17:27:31 +0100 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:real time looping References: <199908070217.WAA23712@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8-TQa3.0.NH1.uv5ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Ken, visit audiomulch.com download the software. play with it be amazed, grab some free vst plugins off the net and blow your little mind with the possibilties of it all if your feeling brave, do as i do and drag the lot to a live gig- live dangerously you only live once! Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 13:44:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11923; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:44:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:44:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <8$W9mTA93Fr3EwIN@screaming.net> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:25:33 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Line 6 DL4 / Zoom 2100 / Boomerang vs. Headrush References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Resent-Message-ID: <"12yuS3.0.aI1.Sw5ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Loopers, For more information on the Line 6 DL4 check out their new dedicated web page:- http://www.line6.com/products/stomper.htm In message , Fmplautus@aol.com writes >Have you checked out a Zoom 2100? We got one for $109. It's quite a looping >bargain...and we've tried all the contemporary loopers including the Headrush >and Boomerang. Yep, this is indeed a fine tool. Still very much underrated. Kim, I notice that there is still no information regarding the 2100 on the Looping Tools page. I will gladly supply a review / photo / spec' to help promote this beastie. Should I send this to the list, or directly to you? In message <009b01bee06e$21fff700$22c4aec7@default>, Alan Imberg writes >If I could afford a Boomerang, I'd get one. However, I could only afford a >Headrush and, for the money, I have no complaints. My other primary looper >is a DOD Dimension 12 which is comparably priced but definitely not cooler. >(If I was patient, I would have saved the money I spent the past year or so >on the Headrush and D12 and bought a Boomerang). I look at the Headrush and >D12 as low price range loopers whereas the 'Rang is the next level up in >price and features. Comparing a 'Rang to a Headrush is not "apples to >apples". The Headrush is indeed a different fruit, but quite a tasty one all the same. I too have no complaints. The 'Rush provides more delay power & loopability than any other (new) unit within its price range. Comparisons with the Boomerang aren't really fair when you consider the price difference. Lee Fletcher From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 15:02:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20184; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:02:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:02:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908070223.WAA24312@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:44:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: RE: Real-time DSP? Resent-Message-ID: <"4OwyE1.0.nt2.E07ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone wrote a real-time effects processor for guitar for the beos. the code is available. called pedalboard. in case you feel like coding your own solution. you can find it on their site somewhere. i used to think about doing something like this. Then I remembered computers are a frustrating part of every other aspect of my life - why bring them into this one? MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 15:02:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20147; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:02:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:02:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 19:43:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199908071743.TAA13348@relay.datanet.hu> X-Sender: pop1678@mail.euroweb.hu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Adam Davidson (from HiTSPACE)" Subject: Re: Real-time DSP? Resent-Message-ID: <"6uhRU2.0.Az2.g27ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 05:12 PM 8/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >> so, my suggestion is: get a slower pc (or rather buy a PC for a task instead >> of buy the fastest pc, and then figure out what you can do with it), save >> money, and buy hardware instead > >I disagree: *always* buy the fastest and best computer you can; it's not that >much more money and you get a more time out of it before Moore's law renders >it obsolete and you have to upgrade/replace it. Besides, figuring out what >you can do with good equipment is half the fun of owning it! I discovered >that fact while going through puberty, by the way... well, depends. check this example. im running here a p100 with 80 MB memory. how much it is compared to a piii? i bet you know. i run here a sequencer, internet, and ms word. everything is seamless, and i dont even plan to upgrade. WHY should i? i have 10 midi ports, two paris cards running in the computer capable of producing a full of 2000 virtual or 256 real tracks, 4 realtime eqs on each channel, 14 different realtime effects on 16 (!!!) aux busses. all i can say: try to beat it with a piii. but really, a piii yet costs about 2-3 times MORE than pii systems, and this means big bucks at the moment. from this money you can get a decend hard disk recording system or an effect like a TC G-Force. after 4-5 months, piii's will cost less than half, buy a piii then. but then that technology will be oh so yesterday... the next thing: i actually could afford myself hitech computer, still i decided to go back. recently i've purchased an c-lab falcon, because i was completely unhappy with the pc. i was not happy with any pc sequencers. they just cant play back tight! (dont say it's because the slow pc. the pc has nothing to do with it. i run a 8port se interface (two actually), and i have a 300mhz pentium too and that's suffering from exactly the same thing). anyhow, the falcon does the job. and it's also a very interesting machine, i strongly recommend to check it out! so, i am fine if someone decides to get the best computer instead getting the best instrument, but at this moment i can find cons than pros. by the way, probably you've noticed: i just hate computers.... :( a/d From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 16:03:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26304; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:03:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:03:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990807184337.32905.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.129.4] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang, Line 6, etc.put me on the list Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 11:43:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"lQfPq2.0.0V4.Jx7ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com like to know more about that green one...put me on the list for a mass by at cheap price...Om and Out...papadave55@hotmail.com >From: Jeffery Hildebrand >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Boomerang, Line 6, etc. >Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 00:41:41 -0700 (PDT) > > it seems as if there's MANY people interested in the boomerang i >am thinking about selling. i might decide to just keep it (BECAUSE I >FREAKIN LOVE IT), but i may be able to get whoever wants one a rang for a >bit cheaper than the going rate. you see i work at guitar center, and i >can get good deals. i can even sell them through the guitar center with a >substantial discount to you. > also, many of you may not know about the company called Line 6, >but they make amps that have modeling of other amps built in, so you get a >wealth of different tones. well they sell a preamp with all the goodies of >the amps but optimized, and believe it or not this little thing sounds >AMAZING and pros are using it to record everything, and tossing their >thousands of dollars worth of now-obsolete studio stuff. this little >preamp is called the POD, and we sell TONS of them for $299. it is a >relatively new device, and now LINE 6 is making more toys. there's a >version of the POD due out that's gonna be a floorboard model, and also >three other pedals are due out in october. one that cought my eye is the >green one. i think it's the Line 6 DL-2 or something like that. well what >it is is a floorboard deal with 4 or so buttons on it, and it is a >modeler, or an emulator of sorts of all kinds of digital and analog >delays. some of the settings were ECHOPLEX, and JAMMAN. well you can bet >your sweet bippy that i'm gonna be one of the first to own this loveable >creature, and if enough people are interested, i could take a list of >people interested to the Line 6 rep ---who i met today---... and maybe we >can all do a big preorder for a killer price or something. > > later, > scott > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 16:26:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28660; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:26:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:26:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: <88a3d925.24dde2e8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 15:28:40 EDT Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Resent-Message-ID: <"QkMiO2.0.Mh5.ub8ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for keeping me posted on Emusic. You might want to consider some tracks from "Hypnotic Safari" (Wannadu Productions), by myself Wayne Wesley Johnson & Ruben Romero. I'll be glad to forward a copy of our recent release of this CD for your review. Our music is regularly featured by Carla Van Dyk of WDVR, Sereantsville, NJ. I've also been a guest artist on her show, and a regular performer at the Chet Atkins Appreciation Society in Nashville, Tn., and The New Jersey Guitar Festival, McAfee, NJ. I am a local resident of Tewksbury Township, NJ nearby Clinton. Please send me your mailing address, and I'll send you some CDs and press kit. Regards, Wayne Wesley Johnson From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 16:28:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28913; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:28:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:28:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004501bee10a$64156980$9822dacf@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Cakewalk and Looping? Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:20:03 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"1Q-KB1.0.3b5.lX8ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi folks, Anyone out there using Cakewalk that might be able to assist a bit? I would like to be able to set up a percussion track that acts like a loop, accepting keystrokes (DSP sounds triggered by MIDI keyboard) as such, instead of having to copy/paste something all the way through. The latter tends to sound like it, frankly, whereas the loop, with its changing/mounting patterns, would sound much more organic. Anyone? Anyone? Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop of the Week (3-1/2 yrs old)! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 18:40:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08275; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:40:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:40:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908070223.WAA24312@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:27:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: 4track evil! Resent-Message-ID: <"BOxgf2.0.FO.uEAht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello all- anyone have problems w/ tascam 4-tracks in the past? i've got a porta 07 that i've barely used, that was bought new (4 years ago), and it keeps stopping. of course, i found this quote from trent reznor on the 'net, which doesn't exactly get my hopes up: "One thing is certain: I'll never go back out with a fuckin' Tascam cassette deck which has the irritating problem of stopping whenever there's a voltage spike or anything. That has led to a few problems with us onstage. " :-( any ideas/experience out there...? MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 18:54:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09573; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:54:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:54:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990807175047.0079e100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 17:50:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush In-Reply-To: References: <2d4fb582.24dcb010@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"CrDeX.0.eq.cXAht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just turned mine upside-down. It's metal. You can tell along the unfinished edges. Tim >As far as the Headrush casing, if anyone can determine whether it's metal >or plastic I'd be curious to know. It's either the most plastic-looking >finish on metal, or the toughest looking plastic I've ever seen. Short of >melting it down to find out (don't laugh, I've done such things), I'm >pretty convinced it's metal. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 7 21:55:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA25364; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:55:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:55:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908080046.UAA19569@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 21:45:12 -0300 Subject: EDP Problem? From: "Sebastian Woscoboinik" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Infomail-Id: 934073026.4B8901AC1E039F.53026 Resent-Message-ID: <"TLUXm1.0.1o4.uDDht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not sure what kind of problem is this, so I wanted to consult about it (may be someone could help me). I'm a user of TWO EDP, wich are in sync with MIDI. Both expanded to 198 seconds, and with their last update. The Record Led from one of my EDP, after a while of using it, happens to turn off. And when every function from the EDP's are working ok, that LED thasn't turn on as my other Echoplex does. All this started to happen two weeks ago, and everytime I star working with them everythin's fine, but after a while, it allways shows the same problem. Has anybody experienced anything similar? Is it telling me something that I don't know? thanks a lot. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 03:43:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27650; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 03:43:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 03:43:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AD2D69.773EFCD1@magelang.com> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 01:10:33 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Real-time DSP? References: <003c01bee038$efcfdc80$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"exOPH2.0.r46.soIht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There are numerous good points in the other posts, but you might consider jMax from IRCAM running on Linux. I think there's support for Sonorus cards under Linux. You'll still have to trade lots of processing power to get the latency down, but if you really want to do it, you can. I've also seen some good stuff done w/ Reaktor (from Native Instruments). Jim > Ken M wrote: > > Hi all, I'm new to this list so I hope I'm not treading on long-worn > soil. > > I have a PII-500, and can't help but wonder WHY I can't use this > monster > as my looper / effects processor / everything. > > In the state of technology today, is there a piece of software (no > hardware > cards or add-ons) that can take a line-in signal and REAL-TIME sample, > loop, and/or process the sound? > > This seems to me to be the next logical step in the evolution of music > & technology. > > > Ken > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 05:06:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01147; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 05:06:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 05:06:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908080046.UAA19569@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:34:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Problem? Resent-Message-ID: <"bFxgp3.0.ql7.G5Kht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com probably a cracked solder joint in that LED's circuit.... kim At 5:45 PM -0700 8/7/99, Sebastian Woscoboinik wrote: >I'm not sure what kind of problem is this, so I wanted to consult about it >(may be someone could help me). I'm a user of TWO EDP, wich are in sync with >MIDI. Both expanded to 198 seconds, and with their last update. The Record >Led from one of my EDP, after a while of using it, happens to turn off. And >when every function from the EDP's are working ok, that LED thasn't turn on >as my other Echoplex does. All this started to happen two weeks ago, and >everytime I star working with them everythin's fine, but after a while, it >allways shows the same problem. >Has anybody experienced anything similar? Is it telling me something that I >don't know? > >thanks a lot. ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 05:12:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01607; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 05:12:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 05:12:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8$W9mTA93Fr3EwIN@screaming.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 01:42:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Line 6 DL4 / Zoom 2100 / Boomerang vs. Headrush Resent-Message-ID: <"YKC902.0.Tt7.5CKht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:25 AM -0700 8/7/99, Lee Fletcher wrote: >Kim, I notice that there is still no information regarding the 2100 on >the Looping Tools page. I will gladly supply a review / photo / spec' to >help promote this beastie. Should I send this to the list, or directly >to you? you can send web site contributions to me directly. I don't have anything for the zoom unit now, send whatever you can. thanks, kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 09:27:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA16364; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 09:27:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 09:27:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: <1e8eca35.24deda67@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 09:04:39 EDT Subject: Re: EDP Problem? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 246 Resent-Message-ID: <"7DaE71.0.hf3.t3Oht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use my EDP's in much the same manner...a pair in stereo brother sync'd together. I too, was experiencing led's burning out. I returned them to Oberheim (Gibson) to the attention of Mike Ayers, and he had their service department correct the problem. Regards, Wayne Wesley Johnson From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 10:56:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA24360; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:56:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:56:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <020d01bee1a9$9305b520$382310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Lanpheer, James" , "Loopers-Delight" Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:21:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"RkneL.0.sB5.cCPht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com James Lanpheer wrote: >When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how much everyone is using >canned sequenced materials? > >Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the >newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the famed duduk >player, not really to catch Brook, and while i REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the >presentation left something to be desired... I felt that there was alot of >rough edges, mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, and >the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that the CD liner notes >to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most of the sequenced stuff was >really just loops, but the lengths of the sections were definitely >programmed and just when they finally started to hit a groove, they moved >on... I don't know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology >in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my soapbox..) Buy >the record (which i like) and save the $$, unless you wish to see the >legendary Gasparyan (you won't be disappointed in him). > >So, again, i wonder aloud, how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, and >perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into >your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software >etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed time >frames). I am going to be gigging out in the next few weeks (and am lining up venues in the Long Island, NY region - anybody know of good gigging ground hereabouts? And would anyone care to join my gig-announcement list?) and I use no sequenced material at all. When I was last doing looping gigs around 87-88, I also used no sequencing except for one gig where I hauled a Roland D-50, an Alesis HR-16 drum machine and Alesis sequencer along with my two guitar amps and a PA. Never again. Never again. Never again. I'm sorry to hear about the disappointment of the Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan gig. While M.B. has never represented himself to be a "Virtuoso", the use of sequencing in an interfering way is dark news. I was going to take the two-hour trip in but I think I'll save my $$ and buy the CD, which has been recommended by many others. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 12:09:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02190; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:09:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:09:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <83cd56fe.24defc1a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 11:28:26 EDT Subject: Re: Continuous Control To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, ew37@bellsouth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"QNko51.0.O87.7AQht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Wouldn't it be easier to use a conventional MIDI controller with two CC >>>pedals built in, and use the switches to change what parameter was >>>assigned to each CC pedal? > >The idea makes perfect sense, but how to implement it?? ......I just think >it would be so much more flexible, user friendly, and fun to have a bank >(ok, not TOO many) of volume pedals that you can operate almost as faders >on >a mixing desk. I've chosen the multiple pedal route myself (i.e., each device has it's own pedals), for these reasons: First, my set-up evolved this way by default, piece by piece. Second, I didn't want to have to figure out, and inevitably spend ages reconfiguring and trouble-shooting, and then be locked into, complex and easily-forgetable, system-wide MIDI presets. As I learned more and more about each new fx device's possibilities, I wanted each one to be always controllable directly, in as flexible as possible a routing matrix, with the current signal flow as visible as possible, and with a base configuration that would be easy to return to. Also, I knew I'd be changing devices occasionally, and I wanted this to be as plug-and-play as possible. Finally, I've never found a currently-shipping MIDI floorboard that can send multiple continuous control messages each on a separate channel. So, even if I could afford a Switchblade and a CAE switching system, I've concluded I wouldn't want it; too complex and too oriented towards set lists and predictable desires. Anyway, anytime I'd ever have that much cash around at once, I'd ALWAYS prefer to spend it on a new processor, not just a bloody switcher! So, what I've settled on revolves around a Mackie 1604vlz mixer (and unfortunately, a sub-mixer), with each effect enjoying its own pair of channel strips instead of using the returns for maximum routing flexibility, and with each device getting its own stereo volume pedal to control the mix (or in the case of delays, the input) and each having at least one dedicated continuous control exp. pedal, too. Almost every device I've got has a jack or two for non-MIDI control, plus I've got a MIDI patch-bay/interface with two cc pedal inputs for adding controls to those (currently 2) devices that can really use more than one controller, but have no or only one jack--this was mainly needed for saving sysex to the computer, which I prefer to have off when making music. I've discovered from this arrangement (shown in graphic detail on my page at www.vg-8.com/users) that I almost never want to change patches within any working arrangement of presets/routings. It's always easier and more musical, and allows sufficient (endless!) variation, to just change the mix and the parameters...esp. since few devices change patches instantly. So, program-change messages are unnecessary. Also, I'm surprised to find that I almost never even open up the fx-sends on the fx channels; I simply prefer parallel routings to serial. Still, the bussing options on each channel get used alot, so the fx returns are used as inputs for sound sources that usually don't need fx...i.e., I hate 'em! Also, I've never wanted a patch-bay, because it would double my cable bill, and isn't as easy as pressing a routing button on the Mackie. Biggest problems I have with this set-up are: 1. Finding a good cheap STEREO volume pedal that really goes to dead silence; so far I use mainly Roland/Boss V-50Ls, which go ALMOST to silence, and are well under $100...but at least one is getting scratchy, and I don't know one end of a pot from the other(s?). 2. Finding a good expression pedal. My default is also Boss: EV-5. These don't put out a full range of values when used direct into several of my devices, so they can't be used for accurate pitch shifts, but they work fine for most parameters and when sending via MIDI. The Proel clone seems to work just as well (no better) for only around $30. 3. Running out of fx sends and channel returns. This is why I've had to add a sub-mixer; only found two that were true stereo, with stereo sends: a Samson PL2404 for $299, and the Mackie 3204 for nearly 3 times that...well, I wish I'd saved for the Mackie, but the Samson's working...not as flexible, but at least it's got 4 busses. Nontheless, I'm starting to double up on fx per send, and have a few that are dedicated to output devices, i.e., off-grid. 4. Not a problem for me, but I can't see how this would be an easily-portable rig! btw, I did finally get a MIDI switcher: the Roland FC-200, which I use to control a Lex MPX-G2 and a Roland SP-808...works fine, offers a MIDI note mode, which I find occassionally useful for triggering the sampler, and so far I haven't missed a more readable interface, because I'm not constantly switching modes and only accessing two devices...needed at least 4 of the extra jacks, tho, just to access all of the G2's options: one extra exp. pedal, and three toggle switches for the "JamMan." It lives in CC mode. Also, I decided that I DO need program-change messages for my delay, which can spill its contents from patch to patch and switches instantly and noiselessly (Korg DL8000R), so I got a Tech21 MIDIMouse; works perfectly, no set-up needed, and takes up little space on my very crowded floor. So, I'm sure this sounds and looks crazy to many, but I totally achieved my goal: I've got an increasingly complex, easy to change system that I can easily control entirely with my feet, plus I can see where I'm at with it, and get back to where I was, very quickly. I've never found that I forgot which of my 16 pedals or 40 switches is which, even after a 3-week absense...and most aren't labled. Their arrangement doesn't change often, and they don't all look the same. For what it's worth...inquiries and suggestions welcome! David Coffin usually at: dcoffin@taunton.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 13:54:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13578; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:54:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:54:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 13:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: August DAP News Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"O2xwM3.0.8t2.w_Rht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Folks, It's just about the half-way point of summer and we've been quietly (or not so quietly, if you ask the neighbors) shacked up working on new arrangements of old tunes as well as new material with new guitarist Steev Geest in preparation for the fall. Steev will be familiar to those who have seen him perform acoustic guitar based music with Solaris Guitar Trio or electronic illbient guitar synth-based music with Fingerpaint. Steev and I have known each other since 1995 from guitar circle work, so he was my first choice to be our new guitarist. As luck would have it, he accepted the invitation. [Fingerpaint fans, have no fear! Steev continues to work with Patrick in Fingerpaint. If you haven't heard their music yet, I'd highly suggest checking out http://www.fingerpaint.net/ ] Steev's first performance with us will be at the Progday Outdoor International Progressive Music Festival on the weekend of Sep 3-5. We may even have a special guest or two perform with us for a few surprises. For those unfamiliar with Progday, it's an annual festival held since 1995 at beautiful Storybook Farm in Chapel Hill NC every Labor Day weekend. Every year several hundred progressive rock lovers gather in this fabulous outdoor setting to watch bands from all over the world perform. This year's lineup is: AFTER THE FALL (USA) APOCALYPSE (Brazil) CONSORZIO ACQUA POTABILE (Italy) DARK AETHER PROJECT (USA) DISCIPLINE (USA) ENVISION (USA) EQUINOX (Panama) NeBeLNeST (France) TEN JINN (USA) THINKING PLAGUE (USA) TRIBE OF CRO (Belgium) For ProgDay ticket details, band descriptions and other info, see http://www.hrzdata.com/progday/ We will perform the following Friday (Sep 10th) with fellow Progday act NeBeLNeST at Orion Studios in Baltimore MD. See: http://www.progrock.net/shows/showcase/ We are also planning to do some shows in the Fall with Iluvtar who will be releasing _A Story Two Days Wide_, their first studio album of entirely new material in 4 years. We're confirmed for Phantasmagoria in Wheaton MD on Saturday October 30th. We're currently working on additional dates. For those interested in hearing some snippets of material from the new Iluvatar CD, Kinesis Records has put up samples on their web site which you will find a link to on the discography page on Iluvatar's web site at: http://www.progrock.net/Bands/Iluvatar/ Finally, for those who are interested in learning two-handed tapping techniques for fretted instruments, we're planning TapTech III for the weekend of Nov 6-7 at Orion in Baltimore. This year's primary instructor will be German touch-guitarist Markus Reuter of Europa String Choir. Over the last two years participants have included dozens of Warr and Austin Douglas Touch Guitarists and Stick players as well as regular guitar players of all levels. As in previous years, there will be a concert held on Saturday night. For more info, see http://www.darkaether.net/tt/ -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 16:11:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29091; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:11:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 16:11:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:45:09 EDT Subject: Re: 4track evil! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"2KDMm1.0.3U6.CxTht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com <> My son uses the 07 with his band all the time (LAST FOUR YEARS) and has never had a problem. Bill 'hawkeye' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 17:46:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07528; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 17:46:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 17:46:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37ADEE28.4E3E@voicenet.com> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 16:52:56 -0400 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: 4track evil! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GpS_t1.0.mc.nzUht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > < i found this quote from trent reznor on the 'net: > "One thing is certain: I'll never go back out with a fuckin' Tascam cassette > deck which has the irritating problem of stopping whenever there's a voltage > spike or anything. That has led to a few problems with us onstage. " >> Reznor is probably refering to the tascam DA88s he used early in NIN. The most famous incident of these is when NIN took the stage at Lolapalooza #1 in Arizona in 103 degree heat only to play ten minutes with the aforementioned problems and then call it a day due to voltage spikes. the equipment hd been baking in the sun most of the afternoon as well. If you're not playing a huge PA in a violently hot environment complete wth all sorts of complex electronic and amplification issues you're probably ok using a Porta 07 or 424 in your home studio. If your unit is stopping it may need an alignment or similar tuneup. Since tascam are a big fish in the home recording world I'm sure there is a qualifies technician around who can take a look and le you know what's up for a reasonable price. good luck! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 22:07:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04456; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:07:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:07:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990808211654.007b9dd0@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:16:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: Continuous Control In-Reply-To: <83cd56fe.24defc1a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"F5JPF1.0.LT7.FnYht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com is anybody out there using the digitech "controll-8"? i'm thinking of abandoning my art x-15 for something smaller and with the expresion pedal on the right (am i anal or what?). any opinions? thanks, m.c. ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 22:47:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09167; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:47:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:47:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001c01bee20b$c2a89ba0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <004501bee10a$64156980$9822dacf@sgoodman> Subject: Re: Cakewalk and Looping? Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:06:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"bhuHh1.0.y01.GTZht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've been doing some cursory research into CAL (Cakewalk's scripting language). I have Cakewalk Pro 8 and am looking into using CAL to "massage" percussion scores and algorithmically make minor changes in order to make the track sound slightly less robotic. You know, like lower the volume of every third bass hit by a couple of percent, randomly raise/lower volume or change the panning of crash symbol hits to make it sound like the drum kit is bigger, alter the placement of a tom hit every once in a while so that it's a few milliseconds off. Have you read any of the CAL documentation? It looks fairly powerful. You might be able to use scripting to take sequences of MIDI notes and manipulate them in some way that simulates looping. I haven't actually used it so take eveyrthing I just said with a pillar of salt. Anyway, it might be something to look into. If I learn any more about it I will pass it along to you and I would appreciate you doing the same if you find out some cool stuff. Peace Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen P. Goodman To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 2:20 PM Subject: Cakewalk and Looping? > Hi folks, > > Anyone out there using Cakewalk that might be able to assist a bit? I would > like to be able to set up a percussion track that acts like a loop, > accepting keystrokes (DSP sounds triggered by MIDI keyboard) as such, > instead of having to copy/paste something all the way through. The latter > tends to sound like it, frankly, whereas the loop, with its > changing/mounting patterns, would sound much more organic. > > Anyone? Anyone? > > Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop of the Week (3-1/2 yrs old)! > EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 8 23:15:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12636; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:15:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:15:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: Continuous Control Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 22:30:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990808211654.007b9dd0@panther.middlebury.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <"wzASs1.0.Dn1.JsZht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No, I have no experience with the Control 8, but I must say, ART's decision to put the expression pedals on the left side is amazing. THe whole time I had my X15, I cursed the left footedness of it. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > > is anybody out there using the digitech "controll-8"? i'm thinking of > abandoning my art x-15 for something smaller and with the expresion pedal > on the right (am i anal or what?). any opinions? > > thanks, > m.c. > > ===================================================================== > = = > = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = > = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = > = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = > = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = > = = > ===================================================================== > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 03:07:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06381; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:07:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 03:07:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990809062858.006a5890@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:28:58 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: used gear info Resent-Message-ID: <"Bq3IZ2.0.4b.fLdht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all What's the best way to buy used gear on the net? are there companies that make the transaction easier and safer? any link? thnx ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 04:38:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14044; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:38:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:38:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AE8D44.8F5134B6@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 01:11:50 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: used gear info References: <2.2.32.19990809062858.006a5890@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7Rcxj3.0.Ww2.Upeht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com leocavallo wrote: > hi all > > What's the best way to buy used gear on the net? are there companies that > make the transaction easier and safer? any link? try http://www.harmonycentral.com/ there's a classified section, among other cool things... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 04:58:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA15720; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:58:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:58:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <9ddc2ad5.24dfebb6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:30:46 EDT Subject: Re: used gear info To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 243 Resent-Message-ID: <"dgs0G2.0.9L3.r8fht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com www.harmonycentral.com i swear by it theres nothing they can do to make it safe really theres too much liability in it for them to try to look after everybody they do , however, tell you some dos and donts everytime i post something to sell i get replies that same night! and ive had no problems with stuff ive bought from there rodrigo In a message dated 8/9/1999 3:06:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cavallo@dada.it writes: > hi all > > What's the best way to buy used gear on the net? are there companies that > make the transaction easier and safer? any link? > > thnx From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 08:07:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA30185; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:07:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:07:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 06:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Computer Based Audio Loopers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"_o1Lc.0.Iy6.V0iht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ken M asked if his hungry Pentium II 500 mhz (!) machine would be suitable for loopage and effects. Certainly - he just needs the right solution. For instance, on my 180Mhz PowerMac (6400/180 w/ 80 megs ram, 512k cache, multi-gig drives, etc.) I am using Ken Mistove's "Procrastination" audio looper and it works great.. For those unaware it's basically four one minute delays and you can do all sorts of stuff that Fripp does with his four TC 2290 delays (Eventide harmonizer units NOT included). It's not like I could take this onstage easily (I could, but I have lugging heavy stuff - perhaps a laptop or somesuch) - but for a studio solution it works fabulously. Just the other day I took the intro to an Ozric Tentacles track I liked and looped just the intro and then played around layered the intro so it was seamless and had a lovely looped drone going for about an hour. One of the next things I'll likely do is bring my guitar rack up from the basement, along with the synths and do some guiter and synth loops and put some MP3 files up on the website for you to hear. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 08:20:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31610; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:20:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:20:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:07:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Small Equipment Possibilities Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"YPu5Q2.0.6R7.4Kiht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com K. Douglas Baldwin wrote a message about doing a gig with a Roland D-50, several amps, a PA, a marshall stack, a kitchen sink, and several large pack animals to carry it all. I thought about the smallest possible amount of stuff to bring on a gig and came up with this configuration: Guitar: Steinberger (the little square one with no headstock), FX Unit: Line 6 Pod (it's really small and sounds good) Looper: Akai Headrush or Boomerang (the Akai is small, Boomerang less so) Drum Machine: New ZOOM unit (could replace FX unit above) Keyboard: Tiny $100 casio with MIDI into more expensive sound module* *Dave Torn has done this live! The only problem would be the amplifier; even a Roland JC-77 is rather heavy (not as heavy as the JC-120), but these amps are clean and loud and would amplify the above nicely. You could actually do okay with a rig like this and it wouldn't weigh a lot and would work fairly well I would think. Experiment! Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 09:09:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03827; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:09:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:09:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 07:58:55 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Reznor's Folly Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"0yMX03.0.Ch.y3jht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After reading the message about Reznor's little problems at the first Lalapalooza (I believe this is the show where he went ballistic and smashed a bunch of equipment and slugged his manager in the face and went near crazy - I read this in a weird interview with him. Shows what lack of sleep and fragile high-tech stuff breaking down in extreme conditions will do for you if you have no coping skills). Trent thinks he's a techno gearhead nerd, and this may indeed be the case but he was kind of trying to kill an ant with a sledgehammer here - why do you need two eight track digital recorders onstage with you to play backing tracks and ambiences? It's asking for disaster in a hot outdoor scenario like that. And those pieces of gear were designed for studio use, not rugged outdoor usage. Anyway, Trent could have saved himself a lot of trouble - instead of bring fragile DA88 digital equipment along to play the impossible to duplicate backing ambiences and such, he could have had custom burned CD-Rs of backing tracks brought along and had them played on a disc player through the PA and played along. We know he's doing this anyway, but two DA88's in 103 temperatures is tantamount to saying "I'm asking for trouble doing this, I'm DUMB!" He could have had two track DAT's as a backup. If he wanted to record the show live, well, they could have used the house recording facilities for that if indeed that's what he was thinking. Sometimes analog works better as a convenience factor. I've seen many local musicians in the food courts and skyways downtown Minneapolis doing just this - using custom CD-r discs through a disc player and connected to the PA and they play along. I've seen a sax/ synth duo do this and they have a drum machine they use live, but the rest of the overdubbed stuff is on a disc and it sounds good. Nobody thinks they're doing the Milli Vanilli thing because the main focus of the tunes are done live. Then again, sometimes certain types of equipment just don't lend themselves to outdoor concerts. I remember reading an interview about Jeff Beck and why he never got another guitar-synth after his Roland GR-500 "melted" after being onstage in 100 degree temps for four or five hours before the show began and all sorts of things were happening inside it (such as cooking and things). My two cents. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 11:24:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21633; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:24:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:24:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908091503.IAA38142@scv4.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:03:33 -0500 Subject: Re: 4track evil! From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yMLSG2.0.iU4.Fukht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Geez, maybe he should just invest in power conditioner and plug the decks into that... TH ---------- >From: Hawkeye255@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: 4track evil! >Date: Sun, Aug 8, 1999, 2:45 PM > > "One thing is certain: I'll never go back out with a fuckin' Tascam cassette > deck which has the irritating problem of stopping whenever there's a voltage > spike or anything. That has led to a few problems with us onstage. " >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 11:39:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24541; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:39:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:39:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:25:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Reznor's Folly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"sAP3C3.0.OO5.XClht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Todd Madson wrote: > After reading the message about Reznor's little problems at the first > Lalapalooza (I believe this is the show where he went ballistic and > smashed a bunch of equipment and slugged his manager in the face and > went near crazy - I read this in a weird interview with him. Shows > what lack of sleep and fragile high-tech stuff breaking down in extreme > conditions will do for you if you have no coping skills). > Anyway, Trent could have saved himself a lot of trouble - instead of > bring fragile DA88 digital equipment along to play the impossible to > duplicate backing ambiences and such, he could have had custom burned > CD-Rs of backing tracks brought along and had them played on a disc > player through the PA and played along. That Lollapalooza tour was back in the summer of 1991. At that time affordable home CDR units were not due to hit the market until the fall. The units available at that time were about the size of refrigerators and cost around $100K. The "affordable" desktop units soon to be released were a mere $6K a pop. Options look different when viewed from a historical perspective! -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 11:52:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27877; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:52:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:52:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00de01bee27c$25cfccb0$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Re: Re:real time looping Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:30:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"S8pgx2.0.Fd5.7Ilht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I tried AudioMulch.. The latency is still unusable, unless you like the latency delay to set your tempo for some odd reason. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Gareth Whittock To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, August 07, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: Re:real time looping >Hey Ken, >visit audiomulch.com >download the software. >play with it >be amazed, >grab some free vst plugins off the net and blow your little mind with >the possibilties of it all >if your feeling brave, do as i do and drag the lot to a live gig- >live dangerously you only live once! >Gareth > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 13:00:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12170; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:00:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:00:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990809124717.007b61a0@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:47:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: Reznor's Folly (OT) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"3JN8s1.0.xI2.bPmht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:58 AM 8/9/99 -0500, you wrote: >After reading the message about Reznor's little problems at the first >Lalapalooza (I believe this is the show where he went ballistic and >smashed a bunch of equipment and slugged his manager in the face and >went near crazy the equipment smashing is now shtick, and performed every concert for the enjoyment of the crowd, who are unaware he has a roadie who's job it is to put it back together for the next night. boxes of spare dx7 parts accompany the band. don't know if the manager slugging is still continuing... m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 13:34:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25058; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:34:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:34:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:22:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Reznor's Folly Resent-Message-ID: <"8B9qj1.0.1z4.6wmht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 5:58 AM -0700 8/9/99, Todd Madson wrote: >Trent thinks he's a techno gearhead nerd, and this may indeed be the >case but he was kind of trying to kill an ant with a sledgehammer here - >why do you need two eight track digital recorders onstage with you to >play backing tracks and ambiences? It's asking for disaster in a hot >outdoor scenario like that. And those pieces of gear were designed >for studio use, not rugged outdoor usage. > >Anyway, Trent could have saved himself a lot of trouble - instead of >bring fragile DA88 digital equipment along to play the impossible to >duplicate backing ambiences and such, he could have had custom burned >CD-Rs of backing tracks brought along and had them played on a disc >player through the PA and played along. We know he's doing this anyway, >but two DA88's in 103 temperatures is tantamount to saying "I'm asking >for trouble doing this, I'm DUMB!" He could have had two track DAT's >as a backup. In addition to the point about what technology was actually available in 1991, consider that you could also be asking for disaster by trying to mix 16 tracks down to 2 ahead of time in the studio without knowing anything about the audio characteristics of the venues and sound systems where you will be playing. With everything on separate tracks, the sound man will have a much easier time mixing things live so it actually sounds ok at the different venues being played. I don't know if NIN ever did this then, but a lot of groups like to actively manipulate the prerecorded tracks while on stage, a la The Orb. In that case the multi-tracks would be key to the performance. Also, a cd player or 2-track DAT could just as easily have died in the heat and poor power conditions. His error was in not anticipating the environment. He should have had a way to keep his gear cool, and provide it cleaner power to be really safe. (or, I guess his manager should have...:-) >Then again, sometimes certain types of equipment just don't lend >themselves to outdoor concerts. I remember reading an interview >about Jeff Beck and why he never got another guitar-synth after >his Roland GR-500 "melted" after being onstage in 100 degree temps >for four or five hours before the show began and all sorts of >things were happening inside it (such as cooking and things). You run a big risk in that kind of situation with any electronics. Especially if its in a black metal box sitting in the sun during a July heat wave. The temperature inside the box can easily exceed the thermal ratings for many of the parts inside. Always a good idea to keep things shaded or put fans on them at least. In addition to avoiding catastrophic failures, your gear will last longer too. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 15:05:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07395; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:05:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:05:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <788974d1.24e07bc3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:45:23 EDT Subject: Re: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor To: PJBMHB@aol.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, kflint@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"lGyXY.0.5A1.19oht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi: In answer to your questions: We have the Zoom 2100, which we bought at the DEMO price of $109 in store at Musician's Friend. Sound quality is good close enough to the Oberheim Echoplex or Lexicon Jamman that we can live with it. Looping features in what otherwise is a dedicated digital guitar buzz box and wah/whammy for kids plugging into practice amps are... three five second dedicated pedals...in other words, you can do "three track" looping as long as you don't go over five seconds per track, and you have the toe agility to hold down the pedals...which we have developed over years of tapping the horrible plastic pedals that came with the original Jamman. OR one 16 second long loop...non divisible at CD quality... OR Extend looper to 32 non-divisible seconds but go to lower-fi Boomerang like sound quality.... OR Edit a patch for near infinite delay so you just ad on loop over long fading loop... In short, this thing is comparable in some areas to the original Jamman, but it's a lot cheaper...it's very small and portable, and you get a not bad guitar effects processor thrown in for free. You can do a lot of looping atmospheric damage with this...hook a Digitech Space station (the poor man's Eventide) in front of it, bring along your ebow, don't forget the paper clips, the claw hammer, and the Julia Child recipes for your guitar strings...and away you go. Drawbacks? ...no knobs and you have to do a visual kind of tic-tac-toe (like the Echoplex) before you know what button to push.. Also it's all BLACK plastic...and hard to read the print on the damn thing. Another annoyance...you can't jump quickly from "multi-tracking" to the single 16 or 32 second mode...you gotta go in and edit. And finally, your toes are cramped with the little Sugar Daddy sucker type pedals, and some people won't like that you have to HOLD DOWN the pedal to get playback in the "multi-tracking" mode, but personally we love this because it's different. Zoom has set up the little pedals with a cassette deck type of interface which actually is very clever and reminds us a little bit of the Boomerang. It also has an excellent LED tree for telling you where you are as far as seconds left in the loop. There is no "tap" feature...so that's a little tricky...you ain't going to want to do your Bach partita on this thing...save that for the Echoplex. The manual, however, is MUCH better then the Oberhiems (ARE YOU LISTENING GIBSON?). We'll say it again...THE MANUAL IS MUCH BETTER THEN THE OBERHEIM ECHOPLEX. And for someone who wants to dip their toe, so to speak, into this looping stuff, -- or for the jaded musicians tired of carrying a rack to the coffeehouse "arena" -- this is a terrific little bargain. Best, Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 16:18:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18784; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:18:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AF3388.A0CE74AE@node.net> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:01:12 -0400 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: * - node - * X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Headrush vs. Headrush (Delay vs. Sampling) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HwvrF3.0.R24.NFpht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com So, I gots me the Headrush ($169 plus 5% off at www.musiciansfriend.com -- how do they do it? amplitude...), kinda likes me the Headrush. Kinda. Certainly, as someone whose sole dedicated looping hardware has been a slowly-disintegrating Digitech EchoPlus pedal (the PDS something-or-other) from 1989, the Headrush beats the Bush era with a stick the size of an oar straight out of the rowing scenes in Ben Hur -- an era surely asking for it, to boot. I'll second my Svengali lover and fashion consultant, one Kenneth Douglas Baldwin, that that's alot of stick for $175, with 2-3 days shipping time, even. But, I'm troubled. Why Korg went to so much trouble to create four separate outs to create that not-exactly-cried-out-for four-head tapped tape delay is surely beyond me. It is a convincing emulation of such a vintage effect, but how many intend to ping that pong across four outputs more than, say, three times, ever? My extremely negligable knowledge of signal-processing hardware manufacturing practice leads me to suspect that, had they not striven to achieve this and left room for other types of effects processing (filtration of delay line, reverse, etc.), this whole 'rang v. 'rush imbroglio would go the way of, I don't know, Fred Travelena and/or other vintage emulators. The switching also strikes me as counter-intuitive, but that's simply a matter of familiarity. Here's the nut of it (and it could lead to an interesting thread, if anyone else on the list feels similarly) -- the ontology of delay vs. that of sampling. Loopers created before the JamMan/EDP era were souped-up delay pedals -- think of the EH 16-second or my own beloved, disintegrating EchoPlus. Post-JM/EDP, this has been replaced with the sensibility of sampling, a chunk of data that reflects the sensibility of the snapshot, not the fed-back repeat. As we read in the specs, the 'rush allows for the aforementioned, disturbingly extensive four-head delay, 11.3 second "sampling" looping and 23-second straight-up (or so one might be led to believe) "delay." Thus, the first question I asked when I busted out the 'rush was, "Where's the infinite repeat for the delay?" Ha ha, foolish, presumptuous boy; there isn't one. "Infinite repeat" is clearly a dead dog in the new looping era; that's a function only a "sampler" can utilize. So...one can get 23 seconds of delay that can only be added to, not set into place and soloed upon or messed with to any degree, less the decaying of the line. Great for "a capella" Frippertronics (as distinguished from "soundscaping," you understand...) and/or pieces like one Kenneth Douglas Baldwin's "The Long Dance" (hey, Doug, you gonna sell them "Solo Guitar" tapes on tour?) but basically a delay that is additional or subtractional but by no means loopable. Indeed, how much is it really "delay"? Like the "looping" mode, one is required to set in/out points for the extent of the delay line, something one shouldn't expect of a delay process; that should be well-determined in advance, unless you _want_ to tap a tempo. This approach is demonstrated on the 'rush when one tries to increase or decrease the "coarse" time dial. In the EH/EchoPlus worldview, this would speed up or slow down the pitch of the delayed signal according to whether or not the delay time, once set, was decreased or increased, respectively. Lovely chattering aluminum locust or pre-cambrian swampscape effects, respectively, could obtain from such actions in the old-skool looper. The Headrush? Fuggedaboudit. The "delay" becomes either clipped or extended but with the only effect from my experiments being the basic interruption of such a delay line, nothing else. I never thought to investigate this difference pre-purchase and more fool me. Kim recently discussed this pitch-shifting knob-twist as being cool but off the page as far as next-gen EDPs go. Which is fine -- a nicely tricked out "sample" oriented looper does things these old "delay"-oriented loopers will never do. But I'm still puzzled by the choices made by Korg for this pedal and mournful of the loss of functions I've come to expect from The Way of the Delay Pedal. I don't know if the Line 6 box will bring back the era of the true delay looper but you just might see a Headrush for sale on this list, shortly... ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 16:49:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23687; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:49:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 16:49:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908092031.NAA13570@scv4.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:31:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Headrush vs. Headrush (Delay vs. Sampling) From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3g_sy2.0.W75.-hpht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I found that if you mute the input on the Headrush with the feedback cranked, it took a long time (30 minutes or so) for the loop to fade. Still, I'd have to second Mr. Keepnews overall assessment of the Headrush. TH ---------- >From: James Keepnews >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Headrush vs. Headrush (Delay vs. Sampling) >Date: Mon, Aug 9, 1999, 3:01 PM > > So, I gots me the Headrush ($169 plus 5% off at www.musiciansfriend.com > -- how do they do it? amplitude...), kinda likes me the Headrush. Kinda. > > Certainly, as someone whose sole dedicated looping hardware has been a > slowly-disintegrating Digitech EchoPlus pedal (the PDS > something-or-other) from 1989, the Headrush beats the Bush era with a > stick the size of an oar straight out of the rowing scenes in Ben Hur -- > an era surely asking for it, to boot. I'll second my Svengali lover and > fashion consultant, one Kenneth Douglas Baldwin, that that's alot of > stick for $175, with 2-3 days shipping time, even. > > But, I'm troubled. Why Korg went to so much trouble to create four > separate outs to create that not-exactly-cried-out-for four-head tapped > tape delay is surely beyond me. It is a convincing emulation of such a > vintage effect, but how many intend to ping that pong across four > outputs more than, say, three times, ever? My extremely negligable > knowledge of signal-processing hardware manufacturing practice leads me > to suspect that, had they not striven to achieve this and left room for > other types of effects processing (filtration of delay line, reverse, > etc.), this whole 'rang v. 'rush imbroglio would go the way of, I don't > know, Fred Travelena and/or other vintage emulators. The switching also > strikes me as counter-intuitive, but that's simply a matter of > familiarity. > > Here's the nut of it (and it could lead to an interesting thread, if > anyone else on the list feels similarly) -- the ontology of delay vs. > that of sampling. Loopers created before the JamMan/EDP era were > souped-up delay pedals -- think of the EH 16-second or my own beloved, > disintegrating EchoPlus. Post-JM/EDP, this has been replaced with the > sensibility of sampling, a chunk of data that reflects the sensibility > of the snapshot, not the fed-back repeat. As we read in the specs, the > 'rush allows for the aforementioned, disturbingly extensive four-head > delay, 11.3 second "sampling" looping and 23-second straight-up (or so > one might be led to believe) "delay." > > Thus, the first question I asked when I busted out the 'rush was, > "Where's the infinite repeat for the delay?" Ha ha, foolish, > presumptuous boy; there isn't one. "Infinite repeat" is clearly a dead > dog in the new looping era; that's a function only a "sampler" can > utilize. So...one can get 23 seconds of delay that can only be added to, > not set into place and soloed upon or messed with to any degree, less > the decaying of the line. Great for "a capella" Frippertronics (as > distinguished from "soundscaping," you understand...) and/or pieces like > one Kenneth Douglas Baldwin's "The Long Dance" (hey, Doug, you gonna > sell them "Solo Guitar" tapes on tour?) but basically a delay that is > additional or subtractional but by no means loopable. > > Indeed, how much is it really "delay"? Like the "looping" mode, one is > required to set in/out points for the extent of the delay line, > something one shouldn't expect of a delay process; that should be > well-determined in advance, unless you _want_ to tap a tempo. This > approach is demonstrated on the 'rush when one tries to increase or > decrease the "coarse" time dial. In the EH/EchoPlus worldview, this > would speed up or slow down the pitch of the delayed signal according to > whether or not the delay time, once set, was decreased or increased, > respectively. Lovely chattering aluminum locust or pre-cambrian > swampscape effects, respectively, could obtain from such actions in the > old-skool looper. The Headrush? Fuggedaboudit. The "delay" becomes > either clipped or extended but with the only effect from my experiments > being the basic interruption of such a delay line, nothing else. I never > thought to investigate this difference pre-purchase and more fool me. > > Kim recently discussed this pitch-shifting knob-twist as being cool but > off the page as far as next-gen EDPs go. Which is fine -- a nicely > tricked out "sample" oriented looper does things these old > "delay"-oriented loopers will never do. But I'm still puzzled by the > choices made by Korg for this pedal and mournful of the loss of > functions I've come to expect from The Way of the Delay Pedal. I don't > know if the Line 6 box will bring back the era of the true delay looper > but you just might see a Headrush for sale on this list, shortly... > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" > (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < > \ * -- Krishnamurti > - > - keepnews@node.net - < > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 18:06:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02419; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:06:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:06:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Makoto333@aol.com Message-ID: <2028be0d.24e0a7cd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:53:17 EDT Subject: --gasparyan / brook-- To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"u0jsA.0.oH.Uvqht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey now, Sorry you folks had such a bad experience with the Gasparyan/Brook show. I just caught the Boston show last night, and thought it was fabulous. Usually i can't stand the use of prepared sequences, etc., in live performance. No judgement there, it just isn't to my taste. But the Gasparyan/Brook performance last night opened my ears considerably to that technique. I was there for the sound check too, and heard some talk about them having very little rehearsal time before touring (compounded by the language barrier), so maybe that's why the first few shows were so rough. But last night Gasparyan did not seem one bit uncomfortable (except with not being able to understand the english-spoken introductions, etc.). He fit right in both with the duduk and his vocals, and seemed to be having a blast. And i'm not a guitarist, so take my word only for what it's worth. But i was blown away by Brook's playing. Restrained where it needed to be, and downright stunning at times. (Actually the most impressive thing i heard was when he solo'd during a the sound check while listening out on the floor to the house mix--some very compelling and compassionate soloing which seemed totally effortless to him.) He clearly wasn't as comfortable/experienced with being in front of a live audience as Gasparyan was though. I thought all the elements came together incredibly well, including the implementation of the pre-programmed stuff. Apparently so did the rest of the audience. They got called back up to do two encores, even though Brook explained that they already performed all the material they had rehearsed! So they just played, at great demand, two pieces that they had performed earlier! And the audience wanted more.... I'd be at the Knitting Factory now if i could have gotten the time off from work. My observations, peter koniuto > I caught the Gasparyan/Brook show this past Monday in San > Francisco. My sentiments are similar: Too much tech., not > enough Gasparyan. I did enjoy Michael Brook's playing but it > seemed, at times, that Gasparyan seemed awkwardly > uncomfortable. Michael Brook did say that it was only the 2nd > time they ever performed together live so that may have > something to do with it. Some of the "loopage" I liked but > there was a definite lack of spontaneity which seems to be an > inevitable trade off when using sequenced material. Despite > the shortcomings, however, I did leave with a favorable > opinion of the show. > Reason i ask? Just saw Michael Brook/Djivan Gasparyan at the > newly-remodeled Gothic Theater in Denver. I went to see the > famed duduk player, not really to catch Brook, and while i > REALLY enjoyed the duduk, the presentation left something to > be desired... I felt that there was alot of rough edges, > mostly due to trying to integrate technology into the gig, > and the fact that Brook is NOT the 'virtuoso guitarist' that > the CD liner notes to 'Black Rock' make him out to be... Most > of the sequenced stuff was really just loops, but the lengths > of the sections were definitely programmed and just when they > finally started to hit a groove, they moved on... I don't > know, in this case, they just relied TOO much on technology > in my opinion, and there wasn't enough PLAYING... (off my > soapbox..) Buy the record (which i like) and save the $$, > unless you wish to see the legendary Gasparyan (you won't be > disappointed in him). From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 18:32:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06049; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:32:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:32:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <25827a9.24e0ac75@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:13:09 EDT Subject: Re: 4track evil! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"IZT4h2.0.bv.pBrht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 07/08/99 23:39:04 GMT Daylight Time, m1cha3l@earthlink.net writes: > anyone have problems w/ tascam 4-tracks in the past? i've got a porta 07 > that i've barely used, that was bought new (4 years ago), and it keeps > stopping. inside these machines you will find little black elastic bands which run round pulleys, these have a limited lifespan, even if you don't use the deck. this may be the route of your problem. Replacing these isn't difficult or expensive. Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 18:46:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08212; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:46:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:46:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AF2D66.3528962A@GTE.NET> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:35:02 -0400 From: NITESH PATEL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas References: <19990806155740.35684.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Dx_mY2.0.nd1.DVrht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sound forge acid pro, sound forge 4.5 pro, rebirth, recycle for 99.00 ld thomson wrote: > I am watching my country (Canada) slowly (but not slow enough) turn into a > annexed part of the USA. If they had rolled tanks in it would have been no > different. It makes me sick. I am old enough to remember a Canada that was > different. > Thanks Free Trade. > > >From: "David Potter" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas > >Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 08:38:52 PDT > > > >Yikes don't get me started...I'm thinking we're all slaves...IRS > >gasoline,taxes up the wazoo.TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Must be time > >for a Revolution.....well you know, we all want to change the world....a > >World wide revolution ,Yea come on guys lets go......oops I've only got > >looping devices...........this is the material world guys...power, greed, > >control! I decided to be a real revolutionary and get enlightened(very slow > >process,that's why I brought a sack lunch and a change of > >clothes)......back > >to the studio..power to the Loopers > > Om and Out.......Papa Dave > > > > > >>From: "Michael S. Yoder" > >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >>Subject: RE: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas > >>Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:47:17 -0500 > >> > >>At 11:44 PM 7/26/99 -0700, Javier wrote: > >> >He's making a reference to the fact that most Europeans feel they'd be > >> >licking nazi boots right now were it not for all those dudes who went > >> >through WWII for their butts' sake. You don't actually own them, but > >>they > >> >feel like you do. > >> > > >> > | -----Original Message----- > >> > | From: Matt Davignon [mailto:mdavig@sfsu.edu] > >> > | Sent: Monday 26 July 1999 6:06 PM > >> > | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >> > | Subject: Re: constitutional rights may not apply in some areas > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | Which butts are those? I didn't know I owned any butts. > >> > | > >> > | > >> > | ld thomson wrote: > >> > | > >> > | > You Americans. . . . own our butts. . . > >> > >> > >>No, I really don't think ld Thompson is talking about the Marshall Plan > >>and > >>other facets of U.S. involvement in European wars of this century. He's > >>most likely talking about "neo-colonialism," a theme all too painful to > >>many parts of Latin America and other underdeveloped regions. If this is > >>the case, I'd like to respectfully clarify and/or correct his assertion, > >>because I agree with the sentiment. Actually, it's MNC's (multi-national > >>corporations) that "own our butts", some of which are U.S.-based, some of > >>which are Japanese, European, etc. What we need to discuss is that a > >>"working stiff" in the U.S. has more in common with a "working stiff" in, > >>say, Belgium or Brazil than with a capitalist in the U.S. Our class > >>consciousness must be global. Patriotism and nationalism have a dark, > >>dangerous side in that they keep us from seeing these material realities. > >> > >>. . .just my $.02 > >>Thanks for listening. > >>Best wishes to all you Loopers and other subscribers, > >>Michael. > >>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >> > >>Dr. Michael S. Yoder > >>Assistant Professor of Geography, > >>Coordinator of Urban Studies > >>Texas A&M International University > >>5201 University Blvd. > >>Laredo, TX 78041 > >>Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 > >>Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu > >> > >>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________________________ > >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 18:49:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08674; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:49:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:49:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <18c1b217.24e0b0c2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:31:30 EDT Subject: Re: used gear info To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"KGZAI2.0.iZ1.1Trht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Leo, A few places that may be able to also help out on the Used Gear side of things: Atomic Music: http://www.smellygig.com/atomic/ Subway Guitars: http://www.dnai.com/~fatdog http://www.joesvirtual.com/ads.htm http://www.ugbm.com/ubmhome.shtml Anywho, hope this helps out a bit! Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 19:02:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10397; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:02:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:02:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:46:32 EDT Subject: Re: Small Equipment Possibilities To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"6o7Tf2.0.X52.5hrht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Todd, Have to concur, going with a Steinberger GL series (possibly two just in case of string breakage) a GR-30, SH-075, or AX-100SB along with a rack unit with a reverb, mayhap an EFX rack unit, a MIDI Controller, and then some form of powered mixer and set of PA Speakers is probably one of the lighter setups, I've ever seen on the one-man band thing, though I've seen a few gigs where it was just a person and a single instrument, too, but for this list, let's face it, we're gonna be taking in a few extra pieces of equipment... On the Powered Mixer and PA Speakers, I've had some seriously good luck with the Carvin equipment. Hope this helps. Now, if only I could find a few reasonably priced Steinberger GL's... ;) Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 19:02:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10381; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:02:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:02:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990809173448.0084c720@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:34:48 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor In-Reply-To: <788974d1.24e07bc3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"75iPF.0.fq1.5brht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 02:45 PM 8/9/99 EDT, the rocktologists wrote: >Hi: > >In answer to your questions: > >We have the Zoom 2100, which we bought at the DEMO price of $109 in store at >Musician's Friend. > >Sound quality is good close enough to the Oberheim Echoplex or Lexicon Jamman >that we can live with it. > >three five second dedicated pedals... >OR > >one 16 second long loop...non divisible at CD quality... > >OR > >Extend looper to 32 non-divisible seconds but go to lower-fi Boomerang like >sound quality.... > >OR > >Edit a patch for near infinite delay so you just ad on loop over long fading >loop... > Very good review of the Zoom 2100. . .very thorough, except for one detail that might be important. There *is* an infinite hold (looping) setting that can go as long as 6 seconds. Very, very easy to use. You can "layer" sounds onto the infinite loop, much like the Boomerang, by using one of the onboard pedals. Good value for someone who doesn't need a long amount of looping time. As the Rocktologists said, the sound quality is phenomenal. Hope this helps. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 19:05:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10772; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:05:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:05:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908092239.SAA07096@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: seen at a record store in Lower Haight (somewhat OT but involves $$) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 99 15:38:27 -0700 x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Matt Peterson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"AFtqF.0.Om1.MZrht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >"Wanted: Someone to give me coaching on a Roland 505. I'll pay well. >Please call me: Tim - 510.923.1059" Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 19:33:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14192; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:33:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:33:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <788974d1.24e07bc3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:15:34 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor Resent-Message-ID: <"iJ3bY3.0.bs2.61sht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the rundown on the 2100, which I'm seriously considering. A question, then: have you tried control pedals with the unit? Sure I can buy a Zoom pedal, but I have a Boss EV-5 I'd love to press into Zoom service. Anyone know if this will do the job? BTW, I've downloaded the manual (why can't all manufacturers do this?!) and, for those concerned, "close enough to "Plex/Jamman" sound quality means 31.25 kHz sampling frequency, or approx. 13 kHz bandwidth; not too bad--certainly whups the Boomerang. Also, the best NEW price I've seen is $139.95 at zZounds website, for those interested.... David Myers >Hi: > >In answer to your questions: > >We have the Zoom 2100, which we bought at the DEMO price of $109 in store at >Musician's Friend. > >Sound quality is good close enough to the Oberheim Echoplex or Lexicon Jamman >that we can live with it. > >Looping features in what otherwise is a dedicated digital guitar buzz box and >wah/whammy for kids plugging into practice amps are... > >three five second dedicated pedals...in other words, you can do "three track" >looping as long as you don't go over five seconds per track, and you have the >toe agility to hold down the pedals...which we have developed over years of >tapping the horrible plastic pedals that came with the original Jamman. > >OR > >one 16 second long loop...non divisible at CD quality... > >OR > >Extend looper to 32 non-divisible seconds but go to lower-fi Boomerang like >sound quality.... > >OR > >Edit a patch for near infinite delay so you just ad on loop over long fading >loop... > >In short, this thing is comparable in some areas to the original Jamman, but >it's a lot cheaper...it's very small and portable, and you get a not bad >guitar effects processor thrown in for free. You can do a lot of looping >atmospheric damage with this...hook a Digitech Space station (the poor man's >Eventide) in front of it, bring along your ebow, don't forget the paper >clips, the claw hammer, and the Julia Child recipes for your guitar >strings...and away you go. > >Drawbacks? > >...no knobs and you have to do a visual kind of tic-tac-toe (like the >Echoplex) before you know what button to push.. Also it's all BLACK >plastic...and hard to read the print on the damn thing. > >Another annoyance...you can't jump quickly from "multi-tracking" to the >single 16 or 32 second mode...you gotta go in and edit. > >And finally, your toes are cramped with the little Sugar Daddy sucker type >pedals, and some people won't like that you have to HOLD DOWN the pedal to >get playback in the "multi-tracking" mode, but personally we love this >because it's different. > >Zoom has set up the little pedals with a cassette deck type of interface >which actually is very clever and reminds us a little bit of the Boomerang. >It also has an excellent LED tree for telling you where you are as far as >seconds left in the loop. > >There is no "tap" feature...so that's a little tricky...you ain't going to >want to do your Bach partita on this thing...save that for the Echoplex. > >The manual, however, is MUCH better then the Oberhiems (ARE YOU LISTENING >GIBSON?). We'll say it again...THE MANUAL IS MUCH BETTER THEN THE OBERHEIM >ECHOPLEX. > >And for someone who wants to dip their toe, so to speak, into this looping >stuff, -- or for the jaded musicians tired of carrying a rack to the >coffeehouse "arena" -- this is a terrific little bargain. > >Best, >Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 9 19:46:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16063; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:46:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:46:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:34:28 EDT Subject: Re: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"tZk__2.0.3Z3.0Osht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Michael...tell us in detail how you are setting up your "infinite loop" HOLD on the Zoom 2100 as described in your message to the newsgroup. We think We have it down, but we want to know any secrets you have. Best, The Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 01:13:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA26536; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:13:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 01:13:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008b01bee2e4$2803a160$1ac8aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: Subject: Re: 4track evil! Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:55:11 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"XpKHr.0.fo3.MFwht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My Tascam 4 track went from being a 4 track to a 3 track two months after the warranty expired. The tap head needed to be replaced. At that point, I decided to give hard-disc recording a try. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: Re: 4track evil! > > > < that i've barely used, that was bought new (4 years ago), and it keeps > stopping. of course, i found this quote from trent reznor on the 'net, which > doesn't > exactly get my hopes up: > > "One thing is certain: I'll never go back out with a fuckin' Tascam cassette > deck which has the irritating problem of stopping whenever there's a voltage > spike or anything. That has led to a few problems with us onstage. " >> > > My son uses the 07 with his band all the time (LAST FOUR YEARS) and has never > had a problem. > > Bill 'hawkeye' > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 04:07:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14602; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:07:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 04:07:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <788974d1.24e07bc3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:59:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor Resent-Message-ID: <"VyCBu1.0.jH3.ylzht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 5:15 PM -0700 8/9/99, David Myers wrote: >Thanks for the rundown on the 2100, which I'm seriously considering. A > >BTW, I've downloaded the manual (why can't all manufacturers do this?!) >and, for those concerned, "close enough to "Plex/Jamman" sound quality >means 31.25 kHz sampling frequency, or approx. 13 kHz bandwidth; not too >bad--certainly whups the Boomerang. that 31.25KHz would be equal to Jamman. For accuracy's sake, Echoplex samples at 41.4KHz (cd rate for dyslexics....) for about 19KHz audio bandwidth. Interestingly, the headrush samples at the actual cd rate, 44.1KHz. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 08:08:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02361; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:08:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:08:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:53:34 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Adam's Historical Perspective Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"z2ifm.0.SG.fC1it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I re-read Adam's response to my earlier assertion that Trent Reznor should have gotten some custom CD-Rs burned for him so he could do the background ambiences of the original tracks live. His response was that in 1991 CD-r recorders were way expensive. I remember when Nakamichi came out with the OMS-1000 which was a prototype CD-r recorder in the late 1980s, early 1990s timeframe and it was at least $100,000. I was unaware the first desktop units were $6k, although my first CD player that I bought in 1986 or so originally had a $1000 price tag on the box. He's right though. It's easy to forget that a few short years ago, a recordable CD device would have been an unreachable luxury for most people - now they sell for $200 at Best Buy. It's almost shocking when you think about it. It's really amazing how technology has changed the face of music in just a few short years. In 1991, I could have sent you a cassette tape demo with a written label, possibly typewritten. It certainly wouldn't have been impressive from a presentation aspect. Today, I could send out a demo CD-r with full custom color artwork in a jewel box with 74 minutes of music. The artwork would have been printed from a photo-realistic inkjet printer and the music would have been recorded on a personal digital audio workstation (who could have foreseen these "four tracks on steroids" with the advent of cheap DSP chips and inexpensive digital storage?). It goes further - looping itself is merely a digital replication of a process formerly achieved via two large reel to reel recorders in a box the size of a soda can. Now we have to think of what comes next? What's the next innovation.. Re: Breakdowns onstage: Kim, I believe, had indicated that even a CD player could have broken down under 100+ degree conditions. So true. In fact, some would say that picking that location would have been a bad idea for a large concert in the summer and I'd almost have to agree - however, even in Minnesota where I am it gets above 100 in the summer. Sometimes there is an advantage with indoor concerts, but something that large would have been impractical. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 09:25:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10817; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:25:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:25:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:11:23 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EEEK! Equipment failure! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"yVO4O.0.oI2._L2it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Okay folks, something horrid has happened: My old 4-track recorder, used now primarily for transferring data to my digital multi-track equipment got dropped recently. After this, the belt that the unit uses to move the drive system appears to have jumped the capstan. I re-seated the belt, but the whole unit is now about 20% slower than it was, even when set at its fastest. I have about ten years worth of four-track tapes I'm attempting to transfer to CD-r, any suggestions to try and speed this beastie up? Could it be that an internal speed setting got jostled somehow? It fell about two to three feet to a carpeted floor. Ideas? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 10:34:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20301; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:34:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:34:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990810142238.14593.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:22:38 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Subject: 4-track/reznor's folly To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"QqUe31.0.ff4.zR3it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey - by the way, guys. He was using a cassette 4-track not one of the ADA-88's or whatever DAT thing you guys are referring to. I know because in the article he says they weren't affordable enough, but he was definitely going to use them the next time around. The reason for using tape as backing was that some of the parts were too dumb to have a live musician playing them (ie repeated 16th note bass lines, etc.). There was apparently a full band otherwise. Not to be a NIN defender (although I am a fan), but I just figured the facts should be the facts. If anyone is interested, I have the article address at home. Haven't heard from tascam yet - I don't know if I mentioned this before, but Rogue Music gave this thing a clean bill of health a while back, even though I was having problems, and I know my power is funky, so I thought it might be the problem. Then again, Rogue isn't on Tascam's service list (not the site anyway)... 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Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 11:30:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28636; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:30:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:30:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908101448.HAA25508@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:48:02 -0500 Subject: FS: 32 sec JamMan, $550 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JH45s.0.dc5.7m3it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com from Harmony Central. Please direct all queries to conleycd@sprint.ca or face public humiliation at my hands. TH ***************************************************************** FS: Lexicon Jamman 32 sec upgrade + footswitch. Asking Price: US$550 Condition: Mint Age: 5 years Description: Forsale absolutely excellent condition. Lexicon Jamman with 32 second upgrade. Original footswitch+cable, lexicon power supply and original manual. $550 including shipping. Interested in the follow possible partial trades. Fulltone Fulldrive II MXR Dyna Comp. Seller: Conley Chris, 905-648-4380 E-mail: conleycd@sprint.ca (Profile) Post Date: 8/9/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 11:34:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29358; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:34:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:34:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908101446.HAA30272@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:46:27 -0500 Subject: FS: DFX-94 (four second delay) $85 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0rPUz3.0.7Y5.dk3it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com from Harmony Central. Direct all queries to ultrevex@atl.mindspring.com or risk public humiliation at my hands. TH **************************************************************** DOD DFX-94 Sampler/Delay -$85 Asking Price: US$85 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: I have the DOD DFX-94 sampler/delay pedal in as new condition. This pedal provides 4 seconds of clean and quiet delay time and has modes for infinite looping and sample triggering. You can get some great effects out of this box, from classic echo and long delays to wild, pitch changed chordal and noise loops. It has the original box and manual......these arent made anymore and are the cheapest way to get into a compact sampler for guitar and keys. I'm asking $85 plus shipping(about $4 by priority mail). Seller: Kevin Morrison, E-mail: ultrevex@atl.mindspring.com (Profile) Location: ATLANTA, GA Post Date: 8/9/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 12:08:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02493; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:08:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:08:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:47:37 -0700 Message-ID: <0000208E.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor To: dmgraph@pulsewidth.com, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"_OP6c3.0.Mq7.of4it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Myers wrote... > BTW, I've downloaded the manual (why can't all manufacturers do this?!) > and, for those concerned, "close enough to "Plex/Jamman" sound quality > means 31.25 kHz sampling frequency, or approx. 13 kHz bandwidth; not too > bad--certainly whups the Boomerang. I thought that the JamMan was only 31Khz anyway... Isn't that true? -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 12:22:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04681; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:22:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:22:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B04B3E.5923@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:54:38 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: 4-track/reznor's folly References: <19990810142238.14593.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"al7R83.0.zO.Yq4it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Not to be a NIN defender (although I am a fan), but I just figured the facts > should be the facts. If anyone is interested, I have the article address at > home. Please send me this address. I also read an article where he said he used DA88s on the lolaplaooza tour. Maybe he changed after the first show? I can't imagine he used a four track deck for this ever. He had enough cash at that time to get whatever they needed. I think the idea that no one really knew what technology would be right is probably a bigger part of it. > Haven't heard from tascam yet - I don't know if I mentioned this before, but > Rogue Music gave this thing a clean bill of health a while back, even though I > was having problems, and I know my power is funky, so I thought it might be the > problem. Then again, Rogue isn't on Tascam's service list (not the site > anyway)... Whats is a "while" back? Rogue always warrenties thier instruments for either 30 days or up to a full year depending on the sale. Tascam has hundreds of service reps all over the world. I'm sure Rogue could send it in for you if it's under warrenty or a simple call to tascam can get you any nearby address you need. I woudln't wait for them though. If you want it repaired you'll need to do some following up or be at the mercy of the repair queue. If you suspect the PS why not just buy another PS from radio shack and test it out? If it doesn't work you can return the PS within a month. LOPP Content: Cheapass 4 tracks are great for bizarre ambeint effects. You can put a "normal" stereo tape in there and get two tracks of L/R musica and the other two tracks will play backwards. tres cool. if it has an effects send try hooking a delay or spring reverb into the mutha. Instant Eno "treatments" dirt cheap. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." 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From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 13:20:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13157; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:20:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:20:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: such a lame beginner Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"IQR4j1.0.fl2.Up5it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've just recently subscribed to this list and have been following the "Headrush"/Looping conversation for maybe over a week. I'm not a skilled "looper" so please excuse my ignorance. I've played with loops on my PC for awhile, and have been inspired by the wealth of layering that can be accomplished, to try to incorporate the looping technique in a re-reformed version of an older band of mine in a live setting and practice. From what I've been able to discern from this list is that not one single "looper" (be it the headrush, boomerang, 2100...) has all the options I would like in one secure, well-made, stomp-box. Most of my sampling experience comes from my PC interaction and an old Casio SK-5, which surprisingly limited, has exactly what I'd require as far as filter manipulation from a sampling/loop box (ie: reverse, fade-in/out, peak..etc). Is there a box that has these simple filter manipulations (or more) along with infinite loop, layered loop banks, and a nice sturdy (sorry zoom makes crap boxes with crap plastic) box? This "mutt" effect will be used in many "aggressive"/"experimental" live settings so the requirement of a strong box is a must. The sort of sound we have, or are on the verge of, is more in line with bands like NEU, The Ex, TFUL, and various influences outside of genre specifics. I'm just looking for some more (if not redundant from others previous posts) suggestions. I was almost willing to run out and buy a headrush but after hearing that there is no infinite loop option I've now begun looking elsewhere. And as always affordability is a must (anything less than 300). Again, sorry if this is off-topic, or redundant. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 14:03:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18859; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:03:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:03:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908101748.KAA33420@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:48:42 -0500 Subject: Re: such a lame beginner From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"12oNT1.0.E84.2P6it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Less than $300? Sorry, no. There's only two real-time performance oriented loopers on the market right now, the Echoplex and the Boomerang. Both have their merits, but neither does any filter manipulation (and both are significantly more than $300). Both have reverse features, the Boomerang also has an option to play back a loop at half-speed with corresponding loss in fidelity. All of the sampler-based devices I'm aware of have some real-time performance issues (e.g. can't create a loop and overdub seamlessly, can't continuously overdub, etc). For what you're wanting, I suspect you'd need a good looping device, a mixer, and a filterbank in the effects loop. I'd suggest either sliding your Expectation slider way down, or your Acceptable Price slider way up. TH ---------- >From: James Pearce >To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" >Subject: such a lame beginner >Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 12:10 PM > > > I'm just looking for some more (if not redundant from others previous posts) > suggestions. I was almost willing to run out and buy a headrush but after > hearing that there is no infinite loop option I've now begun looking > elsewhere. And as always affordability is a must (anything less than 300). From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 15:24:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31836; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:24:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:24:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:47:06 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: such a lame beginner In-Reply-To: <199908101748.KAA33420@scv3.apple.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"qQauE3.0.gJ6.WE7it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com heh, yeah the problem is that i wouldn't be able to control three seperate devices as you suggest with my foot and one spare hand. maybe it's my dexterity that needs improvement. heh, thanks.. On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Travis Hartnett wrote: [.Less than $300? Sorry, no. There's only two real-time performance oriented [.loopers on the market right now, the Echoplex and the Boomerang. Both have [.their merits, but neither does any filter manipulation (and both are [.significantly more than $300). Both have reverse features, the Boomerang [.also has an option to play back a loop at half-speed with corresponding loss [.in fidelity. All of the sampler-based devices I'm aware of have some [.real-time performance issues (e.g. can't create a loop and overdub [.seamlessly, can't continuously overdub, etc). For what you're wanting, I [.suspect you'd need a good looping device, a mixer, and a filterbank in the [.effects loop. I'd suggest either sliding your Expectation slider way down, [.or your Acceptable Price slider way up. [. [.TH [. [.---------- [.>From: James Pearce [.>To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" [.>Subject: such a lame beginner [.>Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 12:10 PM [.> [. [.> [.> I'm just looking for some more (if not redundant from others previous posts) [.> suggestions. I was almost willing to run out and buy a headrush but after [.> hearing that there is no infinite loop option I've now begun looking [.> elsewhere. And as always affordability is a must (anything less than 300). [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 15:55:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA03916; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:55:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:55:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B0793D.AC772E2B@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:11:05 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Adam's Historical Perspective References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5fs-r2.0.FF7.uZ7it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Todd Madson wrote: > Kim, I believe, had indicated that even a CD player could have broken > down under 100+ degree conditions. So true. In fact, some would say > that picking that location would have been a bad idea for a large > concert in the summer and I'd almost have to agree - however, even in > Minnesota where I am it gets above 100 in the summer. yes, but in arizona it's a *dry heat* :-) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 16:01:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04764; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:01:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:01:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908101928.MAA50156@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:28:07 -0500 Subject: Re: such a lame beginner From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"S3Ab_3.0.p4.es7it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For a lot of money, you probably could. I believe that the Rocktron All Access and Digitech PMC-10 can be used to send all variety of midi messages, not just program changes. An Echoplex, midi-addressable mixer and effects processor, shouldn't take more than $3k or so... The looping field is so small and has such weird needs that manufacturers never cater to what would be useful to us (four buss 1U mixers pop to mind right away...). Finding one item that does even most of what you (we) want is out of the question. Particularly on a budget. TH ---------- >From: James Pearce >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: such a lame beginner >Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 1:47 PM > > heh, yeah the problem is that i wouldn't be able to control three seperate > devices as you suggest with my foot and one spare hand. maybe it's my > dexterity that needs improvement. heh, thanks.. > > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Travis Hartnett wrote: > > [.Less than $300? Sorry, no. There's only two real-time performance oriented > [.loopers on the market right now, the Echoplex and the Boomerang. Both have > [.their merits, but neither does any filter manipulation (and both are > [.significantly more than $300). Both have reverse features, the Boomerang > [.also has an option to play back a loop at half-speed with corresponding loss > [.in fidelity. All of the sampler-based devices I'm aware of have some > [.real-time performance issues (e.g. can't create a loop and overdub > [.seamlessly, can't continuously overdub, etc). For what you're wanting, I > [.suspect you'd need a good looping device, a mixer, and a filterbank in the > [.effects loop. I'd suggest either sliding your Expectation slider way down, > [.or your Acceptable Price slider way up. > [. > [.TH > [. > [.---------- > [.>From: James Pearce > [.>To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" > [.>Subject: such a lame beginner > [.>Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 12:10 PM > [.> > [. > [.> > [.> I'm just looking for some more (if not redundant from others previous posts) > [.> suggestions. I was almost willing to run out and buy a headrush but after > [.> hearing that there is no infinite loop option I've now begun looking > [.> elsewhere. And as always affordability is a must (anything less than 300). > [. > [. > > [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 16:49:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11875; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:49:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:49:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: CC Controller tip (and ring) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:21:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"W-98C1.0.6-1.7e8it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have found that the Erine Ball passive volume pedals work in place of a Roland EV5 (like on my Roland GI-10) ONLY if you use an *insert* cable, plug the stereo end into the device, and the RING of the cable into the 'IN' of the pedal, and the TIP of the cable into the 'OUT' of the pedal. Works fine for me. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 17:26:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16995; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:26:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:26:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002f01bee373$ac142c60$93c2d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: More volume pedal crap Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:02:34 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PGWzK.0.iP3.ZG9it"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is for that volume pedal thread, as oposed to the volume pedal/continuous control postings. Does anybody know of a volume pedal (past, present, or future) that features some kind of true-bypass switch?? Or does anyone perhaps know of a volume pedal that can be modded for true-bypass?? And I do mean TRUE bypass, not just an "on/off" switch. This would be mainly for straight up volume tricks, no CC. I do have a GCX switcher, so I could always wire a V.pedal up to that for true bypass, but sometimes I don't want to haul my fridge sized shock mounted rack everywhere. In fact, I quite often DON'T want to do that. It would be nice on those occasions to have a V.pedal that I could cleanly eliminate from the signal when not in use. Any thoughts?? Micah H. (the other Micah) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 18:44:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27574; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:44:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:44:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A7764A6F@usilms12.cai.com> From: "Lanpheer, James" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:55:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"PkBQ21.0.ZH5.51Ait"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Whoever published the third review of that show....THANKS! That's good to hear... I got the 4th show of the tour, someone else caught the second show. In what we saw, there was numerous comments from the band: "Its only our fourth show" "We didn't have much time to rehearse" "If you see 'strange' glances, you'll know why...." etc. At my show, there was only like 100 people there. I don't think it was lack of interest, it was BADLY advertised. Still the show that we saw on the West Coast doesn't even sound like the same BAND! I saw no "stunning guitar work". To me, Gasparyan didn't look uncomfortable (like he did in SF), but Brook did for sure! Certainly no encores were here (they also said "We've already PLAYED all our tunes!") and there was no standing O. The point? It just goes to show what rehearsing and going thru the material can do... It even applies to technology. Going thru the paces of your sequences from song-to-song and practicing that makes it even more seamless. My original question was: Is this technique really valid for live performance? At at least one answer is: YES. As my setup progresses from strictly acoustic sounds to adding some electronic manipulations, i'll need to remember to practice this too (doh! ANOTHER thing to practice...) Thanks for your input on that show... I wasn't really disappointed, its just hard to make mood music come off like the CD. Gasparyan was worth the price of admission and MORE!! If you need more encores, just let the man PLAY! Regards, Jim Lanpheer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 18:49:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28418; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:49:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:49:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <57fcad21.24e1ffc4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:20:52 EDT Subject: Re: such a lame beginner To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"rE_712.0.c86.EPAit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Don't worry about "crap plastic boxes," in twelve months there will be a new box with three times the power. Best, Roctologists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 18:58:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29634; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:58:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:58:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: More volume pedal crap Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:32:46 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <002f01bee373$ac142c60$93c2d6d1@oemcomputer> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"gENOu.0.TM6.7WAit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not sure I understand. Couldn't you use a passive volume pedal for this? Unless they are active volume pedals, they aren't going to add any noise to the signal - their wouldn't be any need for a switch. bIz -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Walters [mailto:ew37@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 2:03 PM To: Loopers Delight Subject: More volume pedal crap This is for that volume pedal thread, as oposed to the volume pedal/continuous control postings. Does anybody know of a volume pedal (past, present, or future) that features some kind of true-bypass switch?? Or does anyone perhaps know of a volume pedal that can be modded for true-bypass?? And I do mean TRUE bypass, not just an "on/off" switch. This would be mainly for straight up volume tricks, no CC. I do have a GCX switcher, so I could always wire a V.pedal up to that for true bypass, but sometimes I don't want to haul my fridge sized shock mounted rack everywhere. In fact, I quite often DON'T want to do that. It would be nice on those occasions to have a V.pedal that I could cleanly eliminate from the signal when not in use. Any thoughts?? Micah H. (the other Micah) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 19:06:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30845; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:06:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:06:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908102243.PAA52294@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:43:46 -0500 Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"EmPjQ.0.Vn6.-jAit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is one of my pet peeves--onstage apologies for poor preparedness/lack of confidence/new material/being drunk/etc. As far as I'm concerned, you're announcing that you're about to suck. If you're sucking, the audience will recognize it all by itself. Many times, they won't, and perhaps you're not sucking. I'd advocate taking all the credit for happy mistakes and ignoring most unhappy mistakes. Anything short of an amplifier bursting into flames or howling mic feedback should pass without comment from the performer. TH ---------- >From: "Lanpheer, James" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: More Brook/Gasparyan. >Date: Tue, Aug 10, 1999, 4:55 PM > > In what we saw, there was numerous comments from the band: > "Its only our fourth show" > "We didn't have much time to rehearse" > "If you see 'strange' glances, you'll know why...." etc. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 19:40:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03084; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:40:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:40:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990810191509.007a6100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:15:09 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: such a lame beginner In-Reply-To: References: <199908101748.KAA33420@scv3.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"j2XIU1.0.ya7.f2Bit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sure you could; what a lot of people do is position their rack very close to their mixer. The controls aren't really much farther apart than they would be on one device, and it's a lot more flexible (and easier to upgrade piece by piece without replacing your whole setup in one fell swoop, which helps with the affordability quotient). Separate devices allow you to set up your stuff in the configuration YOU want, which isn't always in ways some research team at Roland or Korg (or egad! an onstage PC running exotic software) may have thought of. Depending on which looper you go with, either the unit itself (Boomerang, Headrush, 2100, etc.) would be on the floor, or a footswitch unit would be connected to your rack (EDP, JamMan, etc.) so you'd be stopping and starting your loops with your feet, yet not having to crouch down to make other adjustments. Your filterbank and any other rackmount processors you'd care to use would all be together, their controls mere inches apart! Ergonomica! I've seen a lot of loopers use keyboard stands (or even tilted amp stands) to position their racks at the right height. I use a rack that's kind of weird; it's six spaces, but it's set up three high and two wide. With two keyboard stands set at different heights, I can have my rack controls right over my keyboard controls, and the rack itself supports my mixer and another mono synth so everything's right there all in one place with the pedals underneath. I set it perpendicular to the front of the stage to avoid giving anyone "staring at the back of a rack" syndrome, and put my guitar pedalboard at right angles to the keyboard setup, so everything's really very accessible and there's minimal tap-dancing involved. You might not need to improve your dexterity as much as you might think! Tim At 11:47 AM 8/10/99 -0700, you wrote: >heh, yeah the problem is that i wouldn't be able to control three seperate >devices as you suggest with my foot and one spare hand. maybe it's my >dexterity that needs improvement. heh, thanks.. > >On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Travis Hartnett wrote: > For what you're wanting, I >[.suspect you'd need a good looping device, a mixer, and a filterbank in the >[.effects loop. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 20:23:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08829; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:23:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:23:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B0BCC7.4AED699A@spnz.org> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 18:59:03 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. References: <199908102243.PAA52294@scv1.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"TeFHq2.0._L1.1rBit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Travis Hartnett wrote: > > This is one of my pet peeves--onstage apologies for poor preparedness/lack > of confidence/new material/being drunk/etc. As far as I'm concerned, you're > announcing that you're about to suck. If you're sucking, the audience will > recognize it all by itself. Many times, they won't, and perhaps you're not > sucking. I'd advocate taking all the credit for happy mistakes and ignoring > most unhappy mistakes. Anything short of an amplifier bursting into flames > or howling mic feedback should pass without comment from the performer. Which reminds me of a loopy performance... some years ago, i saw Steve Tibbetts perform in Cedar Rapids. Although the performance was outstanding (indeed, astonishing), the sound was marred by a serious hum problem with his electric guitar rig. They worked around it by concentrating on acoustic material, but he obviously wanted to let it rip. After one bout with chasing hum between songs, he said "There's a ghost in the machine". About a minute into the next song, one of the speaker towers (about the size of a coffin) leaned forward and fell, achingly slowly, to the floor three feet below, landing with the tremendous *THUD* of something very broad and heavy landing square on the floor at speed. Tibbetts and Anderson didn't say a word. They didn't even break stride. They finished the song, then got some help picking the speaker up, and finished the set. THAT is professionalism. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 20:55:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA13395; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:55:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:55:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908110033.UAA08311@smtp4.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:40:22 -0400 Subject: DAT and DIsk From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_9U0z.0.Hb2.iKCit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone able to tell me of a 2 track AFFORDABLE dat..or any 4 track or 2 track digital recorders? thanks alot. c.white From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 21:13:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15648; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:13:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:13:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990811004952.8630.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:49:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: EDP Couch Control To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"alQ3m.0.V63.FZCit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com staying on my heiney w/ my modified steiney http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/epbimages/spirit2.JPG randy jones _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 21:31:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17969; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:31:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:31:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990810205440.007a17c0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:54:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. In-Reply-To: <199908102243.PAA52294@scv1.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"q9DkG1.0.103.uVCit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Several years ago ('84, maybe?) I saw John Scofield and Miroslav Vitous in a small club in Cambridge, Mass. Scofield 's amp was picking up radio stations so badly he had to stop playing while someone went out to find him another amp. During the "downtime", Vitous played an AMAZING extended solo, and they took a break to mingle with the audience. There were no excuses, there was no whining; when they finally continued the set nobody in the audience felt "cheated" by the technical difficulties. It was all handled very professionally and with good humour. Tim >Travis wrote: > Anything short of an amplifier bursting into flames >or howling mic feedback should pass without comment from the performer. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 10 22:40:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25727; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:40:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:40:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007701bee39f$d7053320$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <199908110033.UAA08311@smtp4.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: DAT and DIsk Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:18:44 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"BKEsS3.0.pi5.6rDit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There's all kinds of DAT stuff on ebay.com, I saw a few for a couple hundred dollars or less. ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher White To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:40 PM Subject: DAT and DIsk > > anyone able to tell me of a 2 track AFFORDABLE dat..or any 4 track or 2 > track digital recorders? > > thanks alot. > c.white > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 00:36:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA10634; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:36:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:36:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990811040859.10507.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: CC Controller tip (and ring) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"hX_l71.0.Ts.JTFit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com While we are on this topic... Can anyone comment on the DOD VCC1 volume pedal? They sell for under $50, & I'm considering picking up a couple of them. I'm particularly interested in using them (with insert cable) as expression pedals. Many thanks. John --- Future Perfect wrote: > I have found that the Erine Ball passive volume > pedals work in place of a > Roland EV5 (like on my Roland GI-10) ONLY if you use > an *insert* cable, plug > the stereo end into the device, and the RING of the > cable into the 'IN' of > the pedal, and the TIP of the cable into the 'OUT' > of the pedal. Works fine > for me. > > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > 'Future Perfect' - art music > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 01:05:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA14038; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:05:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:05:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990811004952.8630.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:45:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Couch Control Resent-Message-ID: <"Vc2pa.0.Cv2.M0Git"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com love it! although, I found a better view on this page of your site: http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/home.htm so when will I get to try out that butt-looper prototype you've been working on? kim >staying on my heiney w/ my modified steiney > >http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/epbimages/spirit2.JPG > > >randy jones >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 01:43:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18190; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:43:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:43:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Loopbozo@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:23:37 EDT Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Resent-Message-ID: <"kumdM2.0.--3.ObGit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw Brook open for(and play with) the Sylvian/Fripp Band in L.A. a few years ago and he pissed and moaned during his set about the fact that they had flown in from Tokyo and it was 3 am by his time.Seems he's not changed his stage presence or patter.He was adequate at best.Fripp kicked ass, so did Mr. Sylvian. Bryan Helm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 02:52:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA23974; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:52:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:52:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990811063546.12051.rocketmail@web129.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: EEEK! Equipment failure! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"MRqyY2.0.2X5.EdHit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com That reminds me. I have an old Teac 4 track reel to reel stashed under my bed that acts similarly. It got to where the capstan belt would not stay on. I don't know if the belt just lost its proper tension or if the rollers got out of alignment. If your's was dropped, maybe its the latter. John --- Todd Madson wrote: > Okay folks, something horrid has happened: > > My old 4-track recorder, used now primarily for > transferring data to my > digital multi-track equipment got dropped recently. > > After this, the belt that the unit uses to move the > drive system appears > to have jumped the capstan. > > I re-seated the belt, but the whole unit is now > about 20% slower than it > was, even when set at its fastest. > > I have about ten years worth of four-track tapes I'm > attempting to > transfer to CD-r, any suggestions to try and speed > this beastie up? > > Could it be that an internal speed setting got > jostled somehow? It fell > about two to three feet to a carpeted floor. > > Ideas? > > === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 04:30:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA32405; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:30:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 04:30:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003401bee3d1$d5c9e140$1581b3d1@bob> From: "Jean or Colin Jenkinson" To: Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:16:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"-4Mdz2.0.tm7.8BJit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Dave Stagner To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:29 PM Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. > > >Travis Hartnett wrote: >> >> This is one of my pet peeves--onstage apologies for poor preparedness/lack >> of confidence/new material/being drunk/etc. As far as I'm concerned, you're >> announcing that you're about to suck. I also believe one should not say a word about there mistakes or accidents when performing, however whenever my penis falls off during a performance onstage I usually need to make at least one John Whane Bobbit Joke. Colin Jenkinson | nosnikneJ niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 11:20:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06302; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:20:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:20:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908111501.IAA54414@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:01:28 -0500 Subject: FS: Lex 41's (2) $450 each From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wJaFJ1.0.ow.q2Pit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com from Harmony Central. Direct all queries to mhelt@preferred.com TH ******************************* FS: Lexicon PCM 41 Delays $450 Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: I'm selling two Lexicon PCM 41 Delays. Both in excellent shape. No scratches on face. Both work 100%. $450 each Buyer pays shipping. Mark mhelt@preferred.com Seller: Mark Helton, E-mail: mhelt@preferred.com (Profile) Post Date: 8/10/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 11:20:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06335; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:20:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:20:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <007901bee409$d42e8650$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: DAT and DIsk Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:57:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"th4hp2.0.r61.v7Pit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Depends on what you're using it for, but have you considered minidisc? Check-out: http://www.minidisc.org/ for info and http://www.minidisco.com/ for good prices. (I'm not associated with either organization.) I almost bought a portable DAT recorder but after borrowing a friend's Sharp MD MS-702, I bought one of those instead. $199 w/ rebate and much cheaper media. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Christopher White To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:54 PM Subject: DAT and DIsk >anyone able to tell me of a 2 track AFFORDABLE dat..or any 4 track or 2 >track digital recorders? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 17:48:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28948; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:48:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:48:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003d01bee43f$8b284fa0$dc934e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Looping performances in and around SF Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:21:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"tHTm-1.0.T16.UXUit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi everyone: I'll be in the Bay Area for vacation between August 24th and September 2nd and was wondering if anyone from the list will be performing at that time. Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 18:29:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02449; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:29:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:29:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990811220523.5712.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: EDP Couch Control To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"g-fgm.0.vt7.kFVit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, thanks for remembering... The butt looper was conceived when I was single. Now that I'm a live in, the concept has to include one more orifice. That made the name irrelevant, so the butt looper has been reincarnated as the "Vibromuse". When used in its dual mode, even without the guitar, it still has a looping effect, albeit a short one. Being male, I don't guess I'll get to proto that one! The Vibromuse, is still in the conceptual stage, but it is towards the top of my short list. Any Shanghai, Hong Kong latex wizards on this list?. randy jones --- Kim Flint wrote: > love it! although, I found a better view on > this page of your site: > http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/home.htm > > so when will I get to try out that butt-looper > prototype you've been > working on? > > kim > > >staying on my heiney w/ my modified steiney > > > >http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/epbimages/spirit2.JPG > > > > > >randy jones > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Bid and sell for free at > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | > http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | > Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 11 19:20:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08395; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:20:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:20:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:03:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0000208E.C22160@svg.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"gAAqT2.0.TY1.b2Wit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't think so. It's cd quality. bIz -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle [mailto:MBiffle@svg.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:48 AM To: dmgraph@pulsewidth.com; loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor David Myers wrote... > BTW, I've downloaded the manual (why can't all manufacturers do this?!) > and, for those concerned, "close enough to "Plex/Jamman" sound quality > means 31.25 kHz sampling frequency, or approx. 13 kHz bandwidth; not too > bad--certainly whups the Boomerang. I thought that the JamMan was only 31Khz anyway... Isn't that true? -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 02:10:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29851; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:10:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <0000208E.C22160@svg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:31:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor Resent-Message-ID: <"Ru8_e2.0.nH6.onbit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com jamman is indeed 31.25khz. kim >I don't think so. It's cd quality. > >bIz > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Biffle [mailto:MBiffle@svg.com] >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:48 AM >To: dmgraph@pulsewidth.com; loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor > > >David Myers wrote... >> BTW, I've downloaded the manual (why can't all manufacturers do this?!) >> and, for those concerned, "close enough to "Plex/Jamman" sound quality >> means 31.25 kHz sampling frequency, or approx. 13 kHz bandwidth; not too >> bad--certainly whups the Boomerang. > >I thought that the JamMan was only 31Khz anyway... Isn't that true? > >-Miko ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 04:05:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11952; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:05:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 04:05:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Looping performances in Europe Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 00:28:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000e01bee16f$999bda20$b783c8d8@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <003d01bee43f$8b284fa0$dc934e0c@u73x0> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"ubOZu2.0.rn1.YWdit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, I'm going to Budapest, Rumania, Vienna and Prague between Monday 16 and Sunday 30 August 1999. If anybody in the list is around there, please e-mail me before this Saturday. Thanks. Javier | -----Original Message----- | From: James Pokorny [mailto:j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net] | Sent: Wednesday 11 August 1999 2:22 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: Looping performances in and around SF | | | Hi everyone: | | I'll be in the Bay Area for vacation between August 24th and | September 2nd | and was wondering if anyone from the list will be performing at | that time. | | Thanks, | | James | | From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 10:49:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19169; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:49:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:49:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <019901bee4cf$681a4d70$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:31:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"obDTa2.0.G54.rijit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm on the hunt for a good sampler now.. I've decided to back shelf my plans for using my computer as a real-time DSP (Mainly because I've spent the last 2 weeks trying out many MaNy MANY mAnY many so-called real-time software packages that just made me sick listening to..) I've been hearing debates over the Boomerang / Headrush / Zoom 2100 - but I don't see anyone giving their thoughts on the Line-6 DL4 stomp box. Has anyone tried one of these little green monsters? (off-topic interesting fact: In Dutch, the word Monster means Sample.) I am unfortunately in the situation where NONE of the guitar shops in my area have ANY of these units for me to try out, so I need to gather as much information as I can before taking a drive a couple hours down the road to the nearest REAL guitar shop. How I love Connecticut . I'm itchin to start looping! My trio needs something to fill in the empty .... spaces ... And I think a looper / sampler combined with my E-Bow should be a nice combo. Thanks in advance! Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 11:36:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29256; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:36:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:36:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:19:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: "K. Douglas Baldwin" cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Headrush/Space Station review In-Reply-To: <00ed01bee02f$040e8de0$4e2310ac@Douglas> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"6D_6q1.0.JQ6.XRkit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >The headrush is pretty cool, but there are a couple issues. The > >construction seems a little weak. The case is plastic. > > Plastic?? I have to look at mine again, but I could swear it was metal, and > quite sturdy at that. > It's definitely plastic. Sturdy? I really don't think so. I'd be worried about stepping it too hard. > >It seems ok, but it might be a problem, and it's certainly kinda lame on a > box this > >expensive. > > Expensive?? Street/catalog price is about $200. Is there anything that will > loop/delay up to 23 seconds at this price? Until the Line 6 delay pedal > comes out, I think this is about the least expensive bang-per-buck unit > available. > My point was that if I'm paying $200 for a pedal, no matter what it does, I expect it to be able to take a bit of abuse. With the headrush (and the space station for that manner) I'd be worried about breaking it too much to take it to gigs. > Yes, it takes a little time to get used to the switching. I wrote out "cue > cards" in big letters to remind myself what to do while playing, but is > there a simpler way to do what the Headrush does without more switches, LED > readouts, etc.? And by the way, how much floor space does the 'rang take up? > The 'rush is about 7" x 9". > If you have to write out cue cards than the design is bad. I don't care how much smaller it is or any of that other crap. I don't want to have to make cheat sheets for my pedals for performances! Rather than accepting crappy design, why don't you demand better from manufacturers? > >The space station has been gone over a lot on this list and on the web. > >So, I'll be more brief. The space station also has some plastic > >construction that worries me about it as a proffesional pedal. I'd be > >careful before only taking one for a world tour. Essentially, the SS is a > >mini vortex in a pedal form with about 1/10th the control available to the > >player. If you had to choose between it and a vortex (if you can find > >one), get the vortex. > > And what's the difference in price (and availability)? > The price between a used vortex and a new space station seem pretty close. It is hard to find the vortex though, but as I said, if you can find it and you have to make a choice... Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 11:35:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29018; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:35:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:35:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:23:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush In-Reply-To: <2d4fb582.24dcb010@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"El-Kn1.0.UX6.ITkit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've got both. Definitely if you can afford the Boomerang, it's a much better looper than the headrush. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 Jax1723@aol.com wrote: > I don't want to start any wars but I was all set to buy a Headrush but now it > seems possible (if i work a little overtime) for me to get a boomerang. > what i want to know is since the rang is at least twice the money is it > twice as good as looper? i don't care about the headrush's tape > simulation... i want a good looper that's easy to use live with a simple > guitar set up (no midi or anything). i know this subject has come up before > but there seems to be a lot of mixed views as of late. Anyone own both? Is > the rang worth the extra bucks? (what should i expect to pay for the rang?) > > thanks in advance > jack > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 11:42:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30558; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:42:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:42:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:09:33 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? In-Reply-To: <019901bee4cf$681a4d70$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"ElmV8.0.Dn5.XEkit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was under the impression that the Line 6 unit hadn't started shipping. But I could be wrong. Also I'd like to hear opinions on the Lexicon MPX G2 and R1 Midi Control Setup if anyone has tried this unit. the url for the unit is: http://www.lexicon.com/MPXG2/MPXG2homeframe.html The unit is probably pretty expensive but if anyone knows the going price for it I'd like to hear some info on that also. On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Ken M wrote: [.I'm on the hunt for a good sampler now.. I've decided to [.back shelf my plans for using my computer as a real-time [.DSP (Mainly because I've spent the last 2 weeks trying out [.many MaNy MANY mAnY many so-called real-time software [.packages that just made me sick listening to..) [. [.I've been hearing debates over the Boomerang / Headrush / [.Zoom 2100 - but I don't see anyone giving their thoughts on [.the Line-6 DL4 stomp box. [. [.Has anyone tried one of these little green monsters? [.(off-topic interesting fact: In Dutch, the word Monster means Sample.) [. [.I am unfortunately in the situation where NONE of the guitar [.shops in my area have ANY of these units for me to try out, [.so I need to gather as much information as I can before taking [.a drive a couple hours down the road to the nearest REAL guitar [.shop. How I love Connecticut . [. [.I'm itchin to start looping! My trio needs something to fill in [.the empty .... spaces ... And I think a looper / sampler combined [.with my E-Bow should be a nice combo. [. [.Thanks in advance! [. [.Ken [. [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 12:33:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11304; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:33:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:33:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32C0C4@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> From: "Wordsman, Lee" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: LD Vol. 1 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:07:46 -0400 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id MAA04364 Resent-Message-ID: <"nyIXx1.0.H51.f5lit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've just recieved Vol. 1(last night) and have had a chance to listen to it a few times.  Considering the various performers, and the differing styles, tools, and recording locations, it is amazing how well this disc holds together.  While I thoroughly enjoyed LD vol 2, Vol. 1 feels less like a compilation than and a unified musical statement.  While LOOPing is clearly evident in the music, it's not present at the expense of the musicality.  Your not hearing looping for the sake of looping but rather the application of a tool or instrument to establish a musical or emotional framework for each piece. This is definitely a case of the whole adding up to more than the sum of it's parts.  I can't find one questionable or out of place track. I can't be more pleased with this purchase!  However, I must warn you all to avoid playing David Talento's "Just give up and marry the boss's daughter" when your signficant other(my wife, Katie in this case) is trying to hold a serious conversation.  Katie has an uncanny ability to not hear what is playing and so while she tried to discuss some important issue with me, I slowly began to tune into David's track and had to bit my lip to prevent myself from laughing out load.  The juxtaposition of my wife's conversation with David's loop was to much and I ultimately began giggling.   My wife then indicated that I should not plan on bringing the Vol. 1 cd along with me on our upcoming vacation. While my expectations were that this would be a quality product,  it has exceed those expectations by far.  I'd give the overall package a rating of 5 Vibromuses out of five (or was that 5 butt loopers out of 5 or was that couchloopers or continuous controllers or DOD DFX98's or line 6 DL4's or headrushes or volume pedals or yamaha monitors or oh forget it). Congratulations!!! to Legion (whose name escapes me if I ever actually knew it), Ray Peck, Michel Peters and the good people at Help Wanted Productions!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 12:29:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09144; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:29:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:29:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:28:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"jqKwx1.0.Ll6.dXkit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > As far as the Headrush casing, if anyone can determine whether it's metal > or plastic I'd be curious to know. It's either the most plastic-looking > finish on metal, or the toughest looking plastic I've ever seen. Short of > melting it down to find out (don't laugh, I've done such things), I'm > pretty convinced it's metal. > I'm pretty sure it's plastic since the whole thing is extremely light. It weighs less than any of my boss pedals. Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 13:30:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29216; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:30:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:30:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990812170826.006a6c3c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:08:26 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Resent-Message-ID: <"NWIgC2.0.xp5.C_lit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i didn't understand if you're looking for a sampler or a looper.... talking about samplers I can suggest from personal experience the yamaha A3000. lot of features and most of them really useful for live playing/tweaking. Consider that you can use the internal FXs (3 separate blocks) as a signal processor for the live input too (really weird FXs). many nice filters. 128 MB max memory. cheap extra output board (6 analogs, I/O spdif and I/O optical) SCSI as standard. probably a new OS in the next months. ciao leo At 10.31 12/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >I'm on the hunt for a good sampler now.. I've decided to >back shelf my plans for using my computer as a real-time >DSP (Mainly because I've spent the last 2 weeks trying out >many MaNy MANY mAnY many so-called real-time software >packages that just made me sick listening to..) > >I've been hearing debates over the Boomerang / Headrush / >Zoom 2100 - but I don't see anyone giving their thoughts on >the Line-6 DL4 stomp box. > >Has anyone tried one of these little green monsters? >(off-topic interesting fact: In Dutch, the word Monster means Sample.) > >I am unfortunately in the situation where NONE of the guitar >shops in my area have ANY of these units for me to try out, >so I need to gather as much information as I can before taking >a drive a couple hours down the road to the nearest REAL guitar >shop. How I love Connecticut . > >I'm itchin to start looping! My trio needs something to fill in >the empty .... spaces ... And I think a looper / sampler combined >with my E-Bow should be a nice combo. > >Thanks in advance! > >Ken > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 14:23:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13241; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:23:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:23:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B30F3D.A41A6D4A@magelang.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:15:25 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: MPX G2 (Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nJW9R2.0.lS2.Mwmit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com James Pearce wrote: > opinions on the Lexicon MPX G2 and R1 Midi Control Setup > if anyone has tried this unit. > > the url for the unit is: http://www.lexicon.com/MPXG2/MPXG2homeframe.html I got one last winter, can't remember the price. Very similar to the MPX1, but w/ 2 signal paths, one for pre-preamp processing and one for post preamp. You can very easily take an effect that you'd normally patch in after a stomp box, such as pitch shifting, and move it into the pre-preamp path. You can also put effects into the feedback path of delays. The solid-state distortion sounds are good, but no replacement for a tube preamp. After some initial frustration w/ Lexicon's Signature Amp (crosstalk between preamp and amp, some tube problems, heavy, noisy fan, expensive), I've settled for a POD to get tube sounds (cheap, reliable, sound good, looks goofy, has a great "swell" effect). All the digital effects on the Lexicon are excellent, including the pitch shifters. There are numerous modulation options, and midi control options. There is a slight delay when switching patches. There is a basic looper, but I've never used it, I use Kyma for that. I don't have the foot pedal, I think it's a rip off, though I think you can get a good deal on it if you buy them together. I use a pair of CC pedals and a footswitch for foot control, and a PC1600 to change patches. Until Line6 comes out w/ a high-end rack-mount guitar processor, I think the MPX G2 is a great box. Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 14:33:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16972; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:33:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:33:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32C0C6@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> From: "Wordsman, Lee" To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: EDP question Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:19:45 -0400 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"CUr0n.0.cQ3.U5nit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My Digitech 4 sec timemachine attenuates each layer as a new overdub is added. The result is that new material is in the front of the mix while the older layers fall away over time. Does the EDP allow you to maintain each layer in overdub on the surface (say by using 100% feedback)? I assume it does. Then by varrying feedback you can move a set of layers into the background? What about these other looper's that have been mentioned. Zoom, Akai, Boomerang, others. For my purpose the attentuation that occurs with the digitech can be limiting at times. For instance, I was listening to a Brahms clarinet concerto. The various members of the string quartet were playing a sort of droning series of chords and the clarinet was playing a melody over the chords. I thought that it would be cool to create that droning series of chords (or, in my case one or two chords given my 4 sec. limitation). However, with the timemachine, the chords never quite voice the way I want them. Are people doing stuff like this at all. I've heard samples from the LD series and from various MPG's but nothing that quite falls into the area of mimicing a string quartet's chord voicings. I may be mixing terminology wrong here but hope someone understands the question. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 16:24:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02417; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:24:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:24:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004c01bee4fc$7cd0c1e0$152310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Todd Madson" , "Loopers-Delight" Subject: Re: Small Equipment Possibilities Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:52:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"phTcW1.0.cb7.5Roit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >K. Douglas Baldwin wrote a message about doing a gig with a Roland D-50, >several amps, a PA, a marshall stack, a kitchen sink, and several large >pack animals to carry it all. Yes, and the worst part was getting the grand piano over the Alps. >I thought about the smallest possible amount of stuff to bring on a gig >and came up with this configuration: > >Guitar: Steinberger (the little square one with no headstock), >FX Unit: Line 6 Pod (it's really small and sounds good) >Looper: Akai Headrush or Boomerang (the Akai is small, Boomerang less so) >Drum Machine: New ZOOM unit (could replace FX unit above) >Keyboard: Tiny $100 casio with MIDI into more expensive sound module* > >*Dave Torn has done this live! > >The only problem would be the amplifier; even a Roland JC-77 is rather >heavy (not as heavy as the JC-120), but these amps are clean and loud >and would amplify the above nicely. > >You could actually do okay with a rig like this and it wouldn't weigh >a lot and would work fairly well I would think. Experiment! > >Todd Madson >Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. >http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html Tahnx, Todd. And good advice. I may take a Crate Acoustic Guitar amp out (the 120 watt model) for it's combination of very clean tone and relative light weight, but I am also addicted to big ol' tube amps. I like sounds that are real trad guitar as well as indefinable deep space (Mr. Torn is a good reference, actually) so I will probably haul something around for that sound as well. As for the drum machine and keyboard, it all got too constricting for me. I like to fly off into any key (or no key) at any moment, and I like to play the guitar, not push buttons. Button pushing for music making is fine, it's just not me. The setup at the moment seems to include: guitar (Hohner/Steinberger or Yamaha Pacifica) into Rat distortion, Digitech Whammy, Alesis Microverb and Mooger fooger Ring Modulator, then into Akai Headrush and out to Crate amp. I need to experiment with adding a tube preamp, probably between the Rat and Whammy, then an A/B switch to route the signal to either the Headrush/Crate or tube power amp for soloing over loops. This is a work in progress, and will always be so. For absolute minimalism, I could use the Hohnberger, Rat, Headrush and Crate (and maybe the Whammy) and be very happy. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:18:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11519; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:18:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:18:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908092224.SAA08282@smtp2.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 18:30:00 -0400 Subject: all of dat and disk From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DsbM02.0.Xh1.6Gpit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone able to tell me of a 2 track AFFORDABLE dat..or any 4 track or 2 track digital recorders? thanks alot. c.white From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:50:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16326; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:52:55 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"WzvYF.0.0o1.eIpit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 10/08/99 17:45:05 GMT Daylight Time, MBiffle@svg.com writes: > I thought that the JamMan was only 31Khz anyway... Isn't that true? > > -Miko 32kHz actually From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:50:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16350; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002801bee3b8$2601eaa0$96cbaec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <199908102243.PAA52294@scv1.apple.com> <37B0BCC7.4AED699A@spnz.org> Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:12:42 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ek5gH3.0.gN2.DVpit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In defense of Michael Brook (I doubt he really needs it), he tours about once a decade. Clearly, his talents are more suited for the studio, judging by the quality of his solo and collaborative recordings. I wasn't entirely disappointed in the San Francisco performance but he did prepare the audience for what he anticipated as performance shortcomings and there was, indeed, shortcomings in the presentation. I agree with Travis' comment. To paraphrase the mighty Frank Zappa: "Shut up and play guitar!" I'm curious. Is there anyone on this list that saw the Brook/Gasparyan show at the Womad Festival in Seattle? That was the show prior to the SF show and Brook claimed it the be a great show. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Stagner To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 4:59 PM Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. > > > Travis Hartnett wrote: > > > > This is one of my pet peeves--onstage apologies for poor preparedness/lack > > of confidence/new material/being drunk/etc. As far as I'm concerned, you're > > announcing that you're about to suck. If you're sucking, the audience will > > recognize it all by itself. Many times, they won't, and perhaps you're not > > sucking. I'd advocate taking all the credit for happy mistakes and ignoring > > most unhappy mistakes. Anything short of an amplifier bursting into flames > > or howling mic feedback should pass without comment from the performer. > > Which reminds me of a loopy performance... some years ago, i saw Steve > Tibbetts perform in Cedar Rapids. Although the performance was > outstanding (indeed, astonishing), the sound was marred by a serious hum > problem with his electric guitar rig. They worked around it by > concentrating on acoustic material, but he obviously wanted to let it > rip. After one bout with chasing hum between songs, he said "There's a > ghost in the machine". About a minute into the next song, one of the > speaker towers (about the size of a coffin) leaned forward and fell, > achingly slowly, to the floor three feet below, landing with the > tremendous *THUD* of something very broad and heavy landing square on > the floor at speed. > > Tibbetts and Anderson didn't say a word. They didn't even break > stride. They finished the song, then got some help picking the speaker > up, and finished the set. > > THAT is professionalism. > > -dave > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:50:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16324; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:50:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:52:54 EDT Subject: Re: EEEK! Equipment failure! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"X5GEh3.0.9o1.eIpit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 11/08/99 11:58:01 GMT Daylight Time, wedgehed@yahoo.com writes: > I re-seated the belt, but the whole unit is now > > about 20% slower than it > > was, even when set at its fastest. Hi Todd Are there 2 pulleys it could go round , one for 50hz and the other for 60 hz when I got this wrong on my Teac it ran at the wrong speed 20% makes the maths right Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:51:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16608; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:51:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:51:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <021501bee504$8ee5fe60$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:52:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"Lt8DV1.0.2j1.vGpit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >i didn't understand if you're looking for a sampler or a looper.... > My bad.. A looper.. Something I can use live and in the studio. Any info is great! I can afford about $500 for the unit, so I'm up in the air about the EDP, Boomerang, and Akai... Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:56:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17617; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:56:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:56:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:42:34 EDT Subject: The Headrush is Metal!! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"S4JJX.0.El3.x0qit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After exhaustive testing .... ;-) It's metal guys. Bill 'hawkeye' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 17:59:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA18288; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:59:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:59:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <27f02f94.24e49b4e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:49:02 EDT Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"vaRRv1.0.q_3.t6qit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-12 11:34:29 EDT, you write: << I've got both. Definitely if you can afford the Boomerang, it's a much better looper than the headrush. >> I completely disagree. If you use distorted, mangled guitar maybe... if however you're after clean loops of vocals or crystal clear PCM keyboard loops, the headrush has superior sound quality over the 'Rang. Period. Maybe the Boomerang is A BETTER LOOPER FOR YOU....NOT FOR ME. Bill 'hawkeye' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 18:26:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23164; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:26:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:26:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <003501bee50c$b9cfbc80$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:50:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ws8J_1.0.Ud4.EHqit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Any info is great! I can afford about $500 for the unit, so >I'm up in the air about the EDP, Boomerang, and Akai... EDP Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 18:41:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25148; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:41:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:41:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <4d9da112.24e4a2f1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:21:37 EDT Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"duYpB2.0.BX5.ebqit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you're at the $500 mark, just grit you teeth and get the Echoplex...but don't get upset when you start reading the manual-- go directly to the LOOPERDELIGHT fax page. best, ROCTOLOGISTS From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 19:11:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29717; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:11:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:11:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:37:35 -0700 Message-ID: <0000226C.C22160@svg.com> From: MBiffle@svg.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? To: dennis@mdbs.com, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"cHuu72.0.VG6.Nuqit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll second that vote for EDP... Once you're at 500 bucks you should wait and squeeze in the necessary extra $$$ for the vastly higher functionality of the EDP. Like I said earlier... there's always still lots of room for yer cloud loopers, sound manglers and short runaway regen specialists! I just bought a DOD DFX94 4 second delay for just that purpose... Dennis: I just ordered a Sharp MD MS-702 minidisc recorder... Thanks for the tip. best regards, -Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Author: MAILHUB.GWIA:"Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" at Grpwsepo Date: 8/12/99 3:25 PM Date: 08/12/1999 03:25 pm (Thursday) From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: MAILHUB.GWIA("Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com","dennis@mdb s.com") Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? >Any info is great! I can afford about $500 for the unit, so >I'm up in the air about the EDP, Boomerang, and Akai... EDP Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 19:14:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30270; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:14:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:14:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990812185525.007a2100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:55:25 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: headrush: not plastic In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"xr2O2.0.yP6.Pyqit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If there's any doubt, take the bottom off. It's metal, I tell ya! You could probably drive a Volkswagen over it. I'm no metallurgist, but I believe it's aluminum. Magnets don't stick to it, and aluminum doesn't weigh a whole lot. According to the manual, the Headrush weighs 690 grams. My TR-2, a standard- sized Boss pedal, weighs in at 400 grams (15 oz.) with battery. I think the finish is some sort of plasticised coating, but there's no finish inside the unit. Tim At 11:28 AM 8/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >I'm pretty sure it's plastic since the whole thing is extremely light. It >weighs less than any of my boss pedals. > > > Kevin > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 19:58:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03346; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:58:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:58:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <001a01bee518$a1ca5440$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: "Mike Biffle" , Subject: Re: Re[2]: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:15:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LFlRR.0.Rk7.rWrit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Dennis: I just ordered a Sharp MD MS-702 minidisc recorder... Thanks > for the tip. Miko: You're very welcome! For me, it's the best new toy since I bought an EDP. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 20:07:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04552; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:07:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:07:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908122341.TAA08993@smtp2.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:47:12 -0400 Subject: Re: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ju3Wk3.0._I.rlrit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 32,000MKLZ ---------- >From: SoundFNR@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Re[2]: zoom 2100 looper/guitar effect processor >Date: Thu, Aug 12, 1999, 4:52 PM > >In a message dated 10/08/99 17:45:05 GMT Daylight Time, MBiffle@svg.com >writes: > >> I thought that the JamMan was only 31Khz anyway... Isn't that true? >> >> -Miko >32kHz actually > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 19:56:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03065; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:56:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:56:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5757@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: headrush: not plastic Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:27:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"67KbR2.0.pr7.xZrit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thank god that's settled, i was hanging on the edge of my seat :-) sorry, i guess i'm a little bored. about the boomerang versus headrush. having a headrush, i wish that it had a reverse function as well as the 1/2-doublt speed thing that the boomerang does. (tho' my eh16 does have both of those.) still the headrush is a nice little box and it does delay as well, which is important to me. stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 20:32:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08837; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:32:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:32:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990812201601.00826140@mindspring.com> X-Sender: zanga@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 20:16:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rik Myers Subject: Lexicon MPX G2 and R1 In-Reply-To: References: <019901bee4cf$681a4d70$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2NVde2.0.QV1.pEsit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Also I'd like to hear opinions on the Lexicon MPX G2 and R1 Midi Control Setup >if anyone has tried this unit. > >the url for the unit is: http://www.lexicon.com/MPXG2/MPXG2homeframe.html > >The unit is probably pretty expensive but if anyone knows the going price for >it I'd like to hear some info on that also. I've seen these trading used for $1200 altogether on the recycler and at Harmony Central (that is, rack unit and floorboard). I picked one up very recently in a trade and like it alot. I have not worked with the JamMan feature yet (yeah, yeah, I know!) but I have a maxed out EDP for looping. I suppose I orta monkey with the Lexi JmMan function if for no other reason than to post a report. So be it. "I'll be back". Hasta -> Rico From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 12 22:33:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26124; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:33:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:33:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Jax1723@aol.com Message-ID: <92b4a025.24e4d78c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:06:04 EDT Subject: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"ReOk12.0.OY5.dutit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I e-mailed the folks at line-6 last week about a release date and a suggested retail price... they didn't have an answer for either. just figured i'd try and save you some gas before you drive to a REAL guitar store. looks like we'll have to wait for the release of the release date :-) jack ken m wrote: I'm on the hunt for a good sampler now.. I've decided to back shelf my plans for using my computer as a real-time DSP (Mainly because I've spent the last 2 weeks trying out many MaNy MANY mAnY many so-called real-time software packages that just made me sick listening to..) I've been hearing debates over the Boomerang / Headrush / Zoom 2100 - but I don't see anyone giving their thoughts on the Line-6 DL4 stomp box. Has anyone tried one of these little green monsters? (off-topic interesting fact: In Dutch, the word Monster means Sample.) I am unfortunately in the situation where NONE of the guitar shops in my area have ANY of these units for me to try out, so I need to gather as much information as I can before taking a drive a couple hours down the road to the nearest REAL guitar shop. How I love Connecticut . I'm itchin to start looping! My trio needs something to fill in the empty .... spaces ... And I think a looper / sampler combined with my E-Bow should be a nice combo. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 00:03:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07299; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:03:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:03:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0000226C.C22160@svg.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:28:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re[2]: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Resent-Message-ID: <"V6Atb2.0.Ca.36vit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com PLEX, PLEX, PLEX!!! I'm still the hapy owner of two Jam Men, but I love my pair of Plexes more and more each day. Save your money. Buy the best. Patrick > > >______________________________ Reply Separator >_________________________________ >Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? >Author: MAILHUB.GWIA:"Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" at Grpwsepo >Date: 8/12/99 3:25 PM > > > Date: 08/12/1999 03:25 pm (Thursday) > From: "Dennis W. Leas" > To: MAILHUB.GWIA("Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com","dennis@mdb > s.com") > Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? > >>Any info is great! I can afford about $500 for the unit, so >>I'm up in the air about the EDP, Boomerang, and Akai... > >EDP > >Dennis Leas >----------------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 00:04:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07643; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:04:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:04:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908130334.XAA02795@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 99 21:33:19 -0000 x-sender: smonroe@pop.ecentral.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: S Monroe To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"mk9Ou2.0.Oi.O9vit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jax1723@aol.com wrote: >I e-mailed the folks at line-6 last week about a release date and a >suggested >retail price... they didn't have an answer for either. >just figured i'd try and save you some gas before you drive to a REAL guitar >store. looks like we'll have to wait for the release of the release date :-) > >jack Interestingly enough, on page 173 of the _Guitar and Bass Buyer's Guide_ (1999-2000), the DL-4 "Delay Modeler" is listed with an MSRP of US$289.00 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 00:06:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07968; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:06:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:06:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908130334.XAA02796@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Thu, 12 Aug 99 21:33:19 -0000 x-sender: smonroe@pop.ecentral.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: S Monroe To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"wzo0N2.0.Ei.N9vit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jax1723@aol.com wrote: >I e-mailed the folks at line-6 last week about a release date and a >suggested >retail price... they didn't have an answer for either. >just figured i'd try and save you some gas before you drive to a REAL guitar >store. looks like we'll have to wait for the release of the release date :-) > >jack Interestingly enough, on page 173 of the _Guitar and Bass Buyer's Guide_ (1999-2000), the DL-4 "Delay Modeler" is listed with an MSRP of US$289.00 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 00:34:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15678; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:34:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:34:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <27f02f94.24e49b4e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:20:37 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush Resent-Message-ID: <"Kg55b2.0.rU2.ymvit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I concur. The sound quality of the Headrush is terrific, and I'm a picky bastard. As someone here remarked, I think it's even better than the EDP. Maybe it's because Akai has spent so many years developing sampling technology. Fancy tricks you don't get, though--like reverse, half speed, etc--and I've got to say that they seem to have gone out of their way to create the most counterintuitive operation, and nearly nonexistent "operating manual". But 24 seconds of delay this clean is easily worth the $170, at full feedback it goes forever and a day, and the hi freq damp can be nice too. And yeah, it's light, but it's metal alright and the switches are tough. I'd trust it onstage fer sure. Just to be certain I've got my full .02 in here, I must say that the near future looks rosy for loopists; both the EDP "rerelease" (if that's what it is) and the Line 6 units should be well worth waiting for. If Kim is right and the EDP will be significantly cheaper, there will be little competition in serious loop tools--it does stuff these other guys never even thought of. If it comes in around four bills, I'll even consider getting another one myself. But the Line 6 could be tasty, too, and I'm anxious to check it out. Let's face it though, it was announced only two weeks ago--we'll be very lucky to see 'em in stores by the end of September. That's not inside info talking, just experience.... ><< I've got both. Definitely if you can afford the Boomerang, it's a much > better looper than the headrush. >> > >I completely disagree. If you use distorted, mangled guitar maybe... if >however you're after clean loops of vocals or crystal clear PCM keyboard >loops, the headrush has superior sound quality over the 'Rang. Period. Maybe >the Boomerang is A BETTER LOOPER FOR YOU....NOT FOR ME. > >Bill 'hawkeye' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 00:48:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17436; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:48:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 00:48:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009f01bee544$428e2020$10c0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Line 6 DL-4 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:28:11 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"A-wd11.0.Kc3.T-vit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just wanted to add that the DL4 is definitely not out there yet. I emailed Line 6 tech support, and even they claim to have not gotten to try it out yet. Shouldn't be too long though...so they say. MicahH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 02:06:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA26068; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:06:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 02:06:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990813053238.10823.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:32:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Line 6 DL-4 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"nmvKO3.0.9T5.puwit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I sure hope they don't pull a "DOD" on us, ala the FX-98! John --- Elaine Walters wrote: > Just wanted to add that the DL4 is definitely not > out there yet. I emailed > Line 6 tech support, and even they claim to have not > gotten to try it out > yet. Shouldn't be too long though...so they say. > > MicahH > > > > === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 04:48:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA12522; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 04:48:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 04:48:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B37087.976B1DC6@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:10:33 +0000 From: Paul Ill Reply-To: paulill@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-NSCP (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Couch Control References: <19990811220523.5712.rocketmail@web135.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2K7oV1.0.nG2.h9zit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com unsubscribe + thanks! Randy Jones wrote: > Kim, > > thanks for remembering... The butt looper was > conceived when I was single. Now that I'm a live > in, the concept has to include one more orifice. > That made the name irrelevant, so the butt looper > has been reincarnated as the "Vibromuse". When > used in its dual mode, even without the guitar, > it still has a looping effect, albeit a short > one. Being male, I don't guess I'll get to proto > that one! The Vibromuse, is still in the > conceptual stage, but it is towards the top of my > short list. Any Shanghai, Hong Kong latex > wizards on this list?. > > randy jones > > --- Kim Flint wrote: > > love it! although, I found a better view on > > this page of your site: > > http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/home.htm > > > > so when will I get to try out that butt-looper > > prototype you've been > > working on? > > > > kim > > > > >staying on my heiney w/ my modified steiney > > > > > > >http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/epbimages/spirit2.JPG > > > > > > > > >randy jones > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Bid and sell for free at > > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > > kflint@annihilist.com | > > http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > > http://www.annihilist.com/ | > > Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 05:10:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14686; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:10:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:10:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: "m.hughes" From: "Michael P. Hughes, PhD" To: Loopers-Delight Subject: RE: boomerang vs. headrush Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:49:03 -0700 Message-ID: <002b01bee5ab$bfa62e60$acb6e383@me-biopc-22.mech.surrey.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"gtIll3.0.E93.Cnzit"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David > I concur. The sound quality of the Headrush is terrific, and I'm a picky > bastard. As someone here remarked, I think it's even better than the EDP. > Maybe it's because Akai has spent so many years developing sampling > technology. Fancy tricks you don't get, though--like reverse, half speed, > etc--and I've got to say that they seem to have gone out of their way to > create the most counterintuitive operation, and nearly nonexistent > "operating manual". But 24 seconds of delay this clean is easily worth the > $170, at full feedback it goes forever and a day, and the hi freq damp can > be nice too. And yeah, it's light, but it's metal alright and the switches > are tough. I'd trust it onstage fer sure. I've been considering swapping my JamMan for 2 headrushes.... at the moment my JM is set up as a 1-shot delay with some of the output externally fed back to the input with an expression pedal in the way to control the feedback. This gives me a looper with variable loop times (on the fly), variable feedback etc. But it's mono... for the price I could get for the JM, I could buy a pair of Headrushes. The two tap pedals could be wired into a single momentary switch, and my expression pedal is stereo... giving a STEREO looping rig with variable time, feedback etc. Since the pedals are no longer the ones in the boxes, what it's made of actually becomes irrelevant. In the end I decided against it... I _like_ the fact that the JM is mono. Since getting the GT-5 my non-looped sound is "so" stereo that looping in stereo as well would produce mush. Having the loops coming back in mono creates some separation. On the other had, I could put a mono output from the GT-5 into a pan pedal and loop in stereo... but I've already got 2 fader pedals and a 3rd will be used to control master looper output (when it finally arrives at the store). I already have to sit down to control stuff! Does anyone else have this problem??? Ken > I'm itchin to start looping! My trio needs something to fill in > the empty .... spaces ... Pink Floyd had the same problem when recording The Wall. ;) MPH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 10:08:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11783; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:08:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:08:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:00:24 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199908131400.KAA05097@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"wbfNz3.0.ya2.8K2jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #127 August 12, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Belgian atmospheric musician and his collaborations. The feature CD at midnight was his new release with collaborator Serge Devadder on the Multimood label, The Shape of Solitude (Suite for Electric Guitar, Atmospheres, and Recycling). Vidna Obmana : http://www.vidnaobmana.org EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================= 11:00 pm Ozma Beta Hydri A Huge and Silent Place (Atomic City) Robert Scott Thompson Floe The Silent Shore (Mirage) VA [Dave Sneed] Sequential Seas GoldTri Vol 2 (Stonker) VA [DESTOK] The Shard Electronic Music Project (none) VA [Gravity Four] Equinoxe Part 7 Jarre Logic (Purple Pyramid) Fanger & Kersten Deep Sleep Interkosmos (Manikin) Protogonos Lixivium Strange Geographie (DiN) 12:00 am V.Obmana & S.Devadder When a Dead Tree Sings The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder Evenings Prophecy The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder The Plain Truth The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder Perceptual Edge The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder StingingMemorySharedSkin The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder AsPainIsCloakedWithSmile The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder DeceivingMirrorObscureRm The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) V.Obmana & S.Devadder Leaving This Place Again The Shape of Solitude(Multimood) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on Vidna Obmana and his various collaborations. The Feature CD at Midnight will be his release with Capriolo Trifoglio, and Diego Borotti, Landscape in Obscurity on the Hypnos label. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 11:08:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21136; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:08:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:08:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908131455.HAA14670@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:55:35 -0500 Subject: Looper Release Pool: place your bets From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vkfkH1.0.Zg4.u73jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Perhaps we should start a pool, what comes out first the EH-16 reissue, the FX-98 or the DL4? TH ---------- >From: John Tidwell >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Line 6 DL-4 >Date: Fri, Aug 13, 1999, 12:32 AM > > I sure hope they don't pull a "DOD" on us, ala the > FX-98! > > John > > --- Elaine Walters wrote: >> Just wanted to add that the DL4 is definitely not >> out there yet. I emailed >> Line 6 tech support, and even they claim to have not >> gotten to try it out >> yet. Shouldn't be too long though...so they say. >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 11:26:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24458; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:26:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:26:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:11:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush In-Reply-To: <27f02f94.24e49b4e@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"ODZDG1.0.YJ5.2N3jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > In a message dated 99-08-12 11:34:29 EDT, you write: > > << I've got both. Definitely if you can afford the Boomerang, it's a much > better looper than the headrush. >> > > I completely disagree. If you use distorted, mangled guitar maybe... if > however you're after clean loops of vocals or crystal clear PCM keyboard > loops, the headrush has superior sound quality over the 'Rang. Period. Maybe > the Boomerang is A BETTER LOOPER FOR YOU....NOT FOR ME. > Yeah, I think it was assumed that I was stating my opinion. As I said, I have both. For what I do, the control (and loop length) I get with my rang far overwhelms the sound quality of the headrush. This is starting to feel like a religious argument. Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 11:32:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25710; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:32:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:32:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:15:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: headrush: not plastic In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990812185525.007a2100@pop.ici.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"RIjxo1.0.CY5.dR3jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks for clearing this up! Maybe I won't treat mine with such kid gloves anymore.... Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Tim Nelson wrote: > If there's any doubt, take the bottom off. It's metal, I tell ya! You could > probably drive a Volkswagen over it. > > I'm no metallurgist, but I believe it's aluminum. Magnets don't stick to > it, and aluminum doesn't weigh a whole lot. > > According to the manual, the Headrush weighs 690 grams. My TR-2, a > standard- sized Boss pedal, weighs in at 400 grams (15 oz.) with battery. > > I think the finish is some sort of plasticised coating, but there's no > finish inside the unit. > > Tim > > At 11:28 AM 8/12/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm pretty sure it's plastic since the whole thing is extremely light. It > >weighs less than any of my boss pedals. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 11:34:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26053; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:34:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:34:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: "K. Douglas Baldwin" cc: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: Small Equipment Possibilities In-Reply-To: <004c01bee4fc$7cd0c1e0$152310ac@Douglas> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"eK_IZ3.0.GQ5.1P3jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi..... I thought about getting a 7-string guitar since you can get some decent low end going on with those beasts and still sound rather guitar-like. I was playing a $550 ESP LTD the other day and it played and sounded really good - I was surprised. That should work pretty well for flying off into any key. As far as getting decent percussion loops going - I'm really familar with the Roland R-5 human rhythm composer. I could probably have at least 20 different preprogrammed things ready to go and still create something on the fly in a way that would sound artistic. So, my current gear is: Mesa Studio preamp, Lexicon vortex with pedal, roland JC-120 with footswitch, then whatever guitar I feel like bringing (either a Heartfield EX-2, a Jackson Soloist or a Washburn acoustic-electric cutaway). Cool setup tips here though. On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, K. Douglas Baldwin wrote: > > > > >K. Douglas Baldwin wrote a message about doing a gig with a Roland D-50, > >several amps, a PA, a marshall stack, a kitchen sink, and several large > >pack animals to carry it all. > > > Yes, and the worst part was getting the grand piano over the Alps. > > >I thought about the smallest possible amount of stuff to bring on a gig > >and came up with this configuration: > > > >Guitar: Steinberger (the little square one with no headstock), > >FX Unit: Line 6 Pod (it's really small and sounds good) > >Looper: Akai Headrush or Boomerang (the Akai is small, Boomerang less so) > >Drum Machine: New ZOOM unit (could replace FX unit above) > >Keyboard: Tiny $100 casio with MIDI into more expensive sound module* > > > >*Dave Torn has done this live! > > > >The only problem would be the amplifier; even a Roland JC-77 is rather > >heavy (not as heavy as the JC-120), but these amps are clean and loud > >and would amplify the above nicely. > > > >You could actually do okay with a rig like this and it wouldn't weigh > >a lot and would work fairly well I would think. Experiment! > > > >Todd Madson > >Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. > >http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html > > > Tahnx, Todd. And good advice. I may take a Crate Acoustic Guitar amp out > (the 120 watt model) for it's combination of very clean tone and relative > light weight, but I am also addicted to big ol' tube amps. I like sounds > that are real trad guitar as well as indefinable deep space (Mr. Torn is a > good reference, actually) so I will probably haul something around for that > sound as well. As for the drum machine and keyboard, it all got too > constricting for me. I like to fly off into any key (or no key) at any > moment, and I like to play the guitar, not push buttons. Button pushing for > music making is fine, it's just not me. > The setup at the moment seems to include: guitar (Hohner/Steinberger or > Yamaha > Pacifica) into Rat distortion, Digitech Whammy, Alesis Microverb and Mooger > fooger Ring Modulator, then into Akai Headrush and out to Crate amp. I need > to experiment with adding a tube preamp, probably between the Rat and > Whammy, then an A/B switch to route the signal to either the Headrush/Crate > or tube power amp for soloing over loops. This is a work in progress, and > will always be so. > For absolute minimalism, I could use the Hohnberger, Rat, Headrush and > Crate (and maybe the Whammy) and be very happy. > > Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster > dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 12:39:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04165; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:39:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:39:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908131624.JAA10176@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:24:13 -0500 Subject: FS: JamMan $500 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9yhXr3.0.SP.pQ4jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com from Harmony Central. Direct all inquires to phsteamer@hotmail.com TH ****************** lexicon jamman Asking Price: US$500 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: For sale, Lexicon Jamman with 2 footswitches, 2 cables,power supply, manual. Price $500 obo. Seller: Spencer Zimmerman, (319) 344-6860 E-mail: phsteamer@hotmail.com (Profile) Location: BETTENDORF, IA Post Date: 8/12/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 12:42:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04708; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:42:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:42:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <49aa4be.24e59fe8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:20:56 EDT Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - MPX-G2 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac sub 85 Resent-Message-ID: <"w6Vyu2.0.IH.XO4jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Line6 tech support told me recently that their stompers will ship in about 2 months. I bet these folks will prove more reliable than DOD or EH. I got my G2 from J&S Music for around $1000. The JamMan feature seems to work fine (I'm using an FC-200 with three additional DP-2 momentary switches to run it), but I've been disappointed with the unit as a more generic long-delay device, as mentioned here before. There's 20 sec of mono delay memory, which should also be configurable as 10-sec stereo delay. Unfortunately, there's an acknowledged bug that turns stereo delay into ping-pong delay above about 5.3 sec. Lex told me they have no plans to fix this. Worse, in my efforts to set up looping delays from scratch, using exp. pedals to control feedback and input (which I prefer to the overly complex and limiting JamMan arrangement), I've encountered overload problems after about three layers...not a problem with the JamMan algo, btw...anyone wanting more G2 info/opinions, feel free to PEM me at dcoffin@taunton.com...or just post here, and I'll tellya what I can. dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 13:02:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA08167; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:02:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:02:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990813165440.46776.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.94.67.1] From: "Matt Rowe" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - MPX-G2 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:54:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"CzJNZ3.0.gd1.mt4jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Line6 tech support told me recently that their stompers will ship in about >2 >months. I bet these folks will prove more reliable than DOD or EH. does anyone remember how long it took line6 to ship POD after they unveiled it? a good deal more than 2 months, i'd bet. it was also delayed a few times. however, imho, it was worth the wait. it's not my main preamp, but alot of usable sounds for a low price. i just hope EDP2 comes out soon. hopefully that will overshadow anything line6 puts out, in looper-world. either way, we have alot to look foward to in terms of hardware. >btw...anyone wanting >more G2 info/opinions, feel free to PEM me at dcoffin@taunton.com...or just >post here, and I'll tellya what I can. >dpc please post here. i'm sure there are alot of people here, like me, who are interested in this thing. matt The price I pay for free, private email is the following commercial message... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 13:54:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18172; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:54:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:54:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:37:37 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Resent-Message-ID: <"YoJHI1.0.1m3.OY5jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In message , Loopbozo@aol.com writes >I saw Brook open for(and play with) the Sylvian/Fripp Band in L.A. a few >years ago and he pissed and moaned during his set about the fact that they had >flown in from Tokyo and it was 3 am by his time.Seems he's not changed >his stage presence or patter.He was adequate at best.Fripp kicked ass, so >did Mr. Sylvian. I attended the final night of the S/F Tour at The Albert Hall (London) and Brook's on-stage banter was light & humorous. His playing was excellent and this prompted me to purchase the Ltd. Edition CD - Live At The Aquarium, which showcased his solo set from the early 90's. Incidentally this CD has recently been re-issued by 4AD as part of a special double set including Cobalt Blue. Check it out if you haven't already. Lee Fletcher From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 17:52:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01448; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:23:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:23:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990808224735.2841.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: EDP Couch Control To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"mj39D1.0.9O3.raWht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Horizontal playing, for those too fucked up to stand up, but still needing that control. http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/home.htm randy jones _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 18:11:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01773; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:25:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:25:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37AC57B4.9704791B@spnz.org> Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 10:58:44 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live sequencing. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mq3L62.0.1i.wW5ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Future Perfect wrote: > repeating'. Interesting. Any other loopers have non-musicians 'catch on' to > whats happening? My kids! Since i got my loopers out again, my kids (five year old twins) figured out that it makes "echoes", and started playing with them. They'll ask me to plug in and turn on everything, then make up little loops for themselves with the Echotron or Jamman. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 18:13:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02009; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:26:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:26:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:32:03 +0800 Message-Id: <199908080232.KAA21392@salsa.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) From: trent1@iinet.net.au To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: trent1@iinet.net.au Subject: Re: Info on old Lexicons? Resent-Message-ID: <"FLNvz3.0.F27.nnEht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Greetings fellow loopers- > >Does anyone know of any sites with information on old Lexicon reverb and >delay units? > >Sometimes these units pop up for sale, and it'd be nice to be able to >gather information on specs, algorithms, etc. > >Any other sites with info on interesting old delay/reverb devices would be >great to know about, too. > >Thanks- > >Mark > > Hey Mark! I once received an e-mail from Lexicon after asking about algorithms, and the nature/quality of each unit available(rack mount only) They stated quite clearly that the only difference between the mpx100 and the pcm 81 was (apart from programming nuance)the price. The next step up was a pcm-91. Funny though, when I explained my application (live performance) they said I would be better off buying 2 mpx-100's ($440.00)as the pcm-81's had the same propriety chip! and would effectively sound no different!! Also, the mpx-100 has a Greatest Hits collection of reverb algorithms in it anyway, Some from the pcm-60 and pcm-70 etc.. Save your dosh Mark! Cheers, Trent. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 18:14:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA26893; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 04:03:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 04:03:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 00:41:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffery Hildebrand X-Sender: jscotth@catbert.ucdavis.edu To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boomerang, Line 6, etc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"MC8xq3.0.-76.yD-gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it seems as if there's MANY people interested in the boomerang i am thinking about selling. i might decide to just keep it (BECAUSE I FREAKIN LOVE IT), but i may be able to get whoever wants one a rang for a bit cheaper than the going rate. you see i work at guitar center, and i can get good deals. i can even sell them through the guitar center with a substantial discount to you. also, many of you may not know about the company called Line 6, but they make amps that have modeling of other amps built in, so you get a wealth of different tones. well they sell a preamp with all the goodies of the amps but optimized, and believe it or not this little thing sounds AMAZING and pros are using it to record everything, and tossing their thousands of dollars worth of now-obsolete studio stuff. this little preamp is called the POD, and we sell TONS of them for $299. it is a relatively new device, and now LINE 6 is making more toys. there's a version of the POD due out that's gonna be a floorboard model, and also three other pedals are due out in october. one that cought my eye is the green one. i think it's the Line 6 DL-2 or something like that. well what it is is a floorboard deal with 4 or so buttons on it, and it is a modeler, or an emulator of sorts of all kinds of digital and analog delays. some of the settings were ECHOPLEX, and JAMMAN. well you can bet your sweet bippy that i'm gonna be one of the first to own this loveable creature, and if enough people are interested, i could take a list of people interested to the Line 6 rep ---who i met today---... and maybe we can all do a big preorder for a killer price or something. later, scott From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 17:54:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25237; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:54:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:54:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990813161445.048fca70@pop.interaccess.com> X-Sender: ths@pop.interaccess.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:14:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tom S Subject: Re: More Brook/Gasparyan. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"71EcU1.0.lC5._s8jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw Michael Brooks at the Park West in Chicago as the opener for Sylvian and Fripp, and he was fantastic. I had on of his albums with Eno at the time ("Hybrid", an excellent CD), but he went far beyond that work. I thought he was superb. He had no comments that I remember (just followed the F. Zappa axiom "Shut up and play yer guitar") Actually, the show with Sylvian and Fripp is the one I look back at and think "that was my favorite concert". One and all were super-hot that night. I've seen Sylvian a few times, he seems to be a whiner big-time. One show, I did two songs, then excused himself because of his cold. Mark Isham and David Torn improvised for about 20 minutes, then show's over. The name of the tour was "In praise of the shaman", renamed by my friends I took there as "In praise of the charlatan". Sylvian was also carrying on in another show in Chicago about the smoker's. Oh well, he does some fine music. BTW, if anyone's heard Sylvian's latest CD, doesn't it sound like he's lifted Torn's guitar sound for the CD. It's almost like he used samples of previous work he did with Torn on this CD. Sylvian is the only credited guitarist on this CD, just wondered what you thought. Tom At 06:37 PM 8/13/99 +0100, you wrote: >In message , Loopbozo@aol.com writes >>I saw Brook open for(and play with) the Sylvian/Fripp Band in L.A. a few >>years ago and he pissed and moaned during his set about the fact that they had >>flown in from Tokyo and it was 3 am by his time.Seems he's not changed >>his stage presence or patter.He was adequate at best.Fripp kicked ass, so >>did Mr. Sylvian. > >I attended the final night of the S/F Tour at The Albert Hall (London) >and Brook's on-stage banter was light & humorous. His playing was >excellent and this prompted me to purchase the Ltd. Edition CD - Live At >The Aquarium, which showcased his solo set from the early 90's. > >Incidentally this CD has recently been re-issued by 4AD as part of a >special double set including Cobalt Blue. Check it out if you haven't >already. > >Lee Fletcher > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 18:32:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18380; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:55:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:55:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:45:25 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Zoom 2100 Info' / Headrush Skin MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U Resent-Message-ID: <"KVfUC3.0.cl3.GY5jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In message , Fmplautus@aol.com writes >Michael...tell us in detail how you are setting up your "infinite loop" HOLD >on the Zoom 2100 as described in your message to the newsgroup. We think We >have it down, but we want to know any secrets you have. > >Best, >The Roctologists > For a max. 6 second Infinite Loop (with overdub) you will need to access the Sound-On-Sound function. This must be programmed into a User Patch:- Select Delay as the Modulation type, and set the Feedback to S.o (Sound- On-Sound.) Use the Time parameter to set your loop length. Record performance data by pressing & holding either the Function Switch (set to Control) or optional Foot Pedal (recommended.) Hope this helps. Regards, Lee Fletcher P.S. I will shortly be submitting a chunk of 2100 info' to the Looping Tools page... P.P.S. The 'rush is METAL ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 18:47:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01058; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:47:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:47:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5763@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:25:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"3SvP-1.0.lR7.Nk9jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com isn't mark ribot all over the new sylvian? also, i believe frisell is on one cut . . . stig > BTW, if anyone's heard Sylvian's latest CD, doesn't it sound like he's > lifted Torn's guitar sound for the CD. It's almost like he used samples of > previous work he did with Torn on this CD. Sylvian is the only credited > guitarist on this CD, just wondered what you thought. > > Tom > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 18:50:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01610; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:50:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:50:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990813222859.21466.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: EDP Couch Control-Not Again! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"Fh7lL1.0.2X7.1n9jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry for this repost. Server delayed it by about a week or so??? Also sorry for offending anyone. I'm shutting up now... randy jones --- Randy Jones wrote: > > Horizontal playing, for those too fucked up to > stand up, but still needing that control. > > http://members.xoom.com/ranjones/home.htm > > randy jones > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at > http://auctions.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 19:01:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03221; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:01:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:01:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:42:09 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Resent-Message-ID: <"mS2-q1.0.u6.Y-9jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey... I'm just wondering if you actually got my last email. We switched over today and there was about 2 hours where there were bounced messages. -m Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Liebig, Steuart A." 08/13 3:36 PM >>> isn't mark ribot all over the new sylvian? also, i believe frisell is on one cut . . . stig > BTW, if anyone's heard Sylvian's latest CD, doesn't it sound like he's > lifted Torn's guitar sound for the CD. It's almost like he used samples of > previous work he did with Torn on this CD. Sylvian is the only credited > guitarist on this CD, just wondered what you thought. > > Tom > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 19:44:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09037; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:44:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:44:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5767@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:18:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"_rXRv2.0.HQ1.aWAjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com oops . . . steuart goofed, mea culpa, etc. stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 19:37:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07920; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:37:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5765@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:17:14 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"it-dh1.0.gM1.TVAjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yes i did . . . did you get my reponse to your gear and kid e-mail?? > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Biffle [SMTP:mbiffle@svg.com] > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 15:42 > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. > > Hey... > > I'm just wondering if you actually got my last email. We switched > over today and there was about 2 hours where there were bounced > messages. > > -m > > Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." > mbiffle@svg.com > > >>> "Liebig, Steuart A." 08/13 3:36 PM >>> > isn't mark ribot all over the new sylvian? also, i believe frisell is > on one > cut . . . > > stig > > > > BTW, if anyone's heard Sylvian's latest CD, doesn't it sound like > he's > > lifted Torn's guitar sound for the CD. It's almost like he used > samples of > > previous work he did with Torn on this CD. Sylvian is the only > credited > > guitarist on this CD, just wondered what you thought. > > > > Tom > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 19:43:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08906; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:43:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:43:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:32:48 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Resent-Message-ID: <"ZxFBN3.0.xs1.6lAjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well... now things are starting to overlap. I just answered another item from you... I didn't get your response to the kid and gear thread... -m Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com >>> "Liebig, Steuart A." 08/13 4:30 PM >>> yes i did . . . did you get my reponse to your gear and kid e-mail?? > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Biffle [SMTP:mbiffle@svg.com] > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 15:42 > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. > > Hey... > > I'm just wondering if you actually got my last email. We switched > over today and there was about 2 hours where there were bounced > messages. > > -m > > Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." > mbiffle@svg.com > > >>> "Liebig, Steuart A." 08/13 3:36 PM >>> > isn't mark ribot all over the new sylvian? also, i believe frisell is > on one > cut . . . > > stig > > > > BTW, if anyone's heard Sylvian's latest CD, doesn't it sound like > he's > > lifted Torn's guitar sound for the CD. It's almost like he used > samples of > > previous work he did with Torn on this CD. Sylvian is the only > credited > > guitarist on this CD, just wondered what you thought. > > > > Tom > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 20:30:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15412; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:30:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:30:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990813201355.007a47d0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:13:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EDP Couch Control-Not Again! In-Reply-To: <19990813222859.21466.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9THq61.0.qz2.mABjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Aside from the disappointment of thinking they were gonna be pictures we hadn't seen before, I was impressed by the customised Steiny. A friend of mine once duct-taped a Casio to his Les Paul (it sounded great through his quarter-acre pedalboard, BTW), but this blows that away! Anyone else out there using unusually-configured gear, re-positioned controls, oddball racks, Rube Goldberg loopers? Any strangely evolving rigs resulting in a higher degree of loop-friendliness? Any incongruous mixes of high and low tech? Particularly original and/or well laid-out pedalboards or any cool mods in general? Tim At 03:28 PM 8/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >Sorry for this repost. Server delayed it by about >a week or so??? Also sorry for offending anyone. >I'm shutting up now... > >randy jones From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 20:39:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16388; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:39:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:39:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: "Sean Dimond (racer.x productions)" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:03:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"qRMjr1.0.M33.PCBjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i saw them at WOMAD seattle. brook gave a requisite apology, stating that this was their 1st ever live performance. the audience (which seemed to be made up of people entirely unfamiliar with either brook or gasparyan) did not seem to mind at all, and by and large i thought most reacted to brook as rather charming. it didn't come off as an apology at all. the set was excellent. and while i am a huge fan of brook's music and production, musically, the show entirely belonged to gasparyan. he was extraordinary. he and brook played at the wildly strange 'grande jam' encore at WOMAD's last night, and while gasparyan did look awkward (in fact everyone looked awkward... it was a really odd but wonderful attempt), gasparyan's presence, his playing, had me feel as if we were all in the presence of, simply, a master. --sky -----Original Message----- From: Lanpheer, James [mailto:James.Lanpheer@cai.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 2:55 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: More Brook/Gasparyan. Whoever published the third review of that show....THANKS! That's good to hear... I got the 4th show of the tour, someone else caught the second show. In what we saw, there was numerous comments from the band: "Its only our fourth show" "We didn't have much time to rehearse" "If you see 'strange' glances, you'll know why...." etc. At my show, there was only like 100 people there. I don't think it was lack of interest, it was BADLY advertised. Still the show that we saw on the West Coast doesn't even sound like the same BAND! I saw no "stunning guitar work". To me, Gasparyan didn't look uncomfortable (like he did in SF), but Brook did for sure! Certainly no encores were here (they also said "We've already PLAYED all our tunes!") and there was no standing O. The point? It just goes to show what rehearsing and going thru the material can do... It even applies to technology. Going thru the paces of your sequences from song-to-song and practicing that makes it even more seamless. My original question was: Is this technique really valid for live performance? At at least one answer is: YES. As my setup progresses from strictly acoustic sounds to adding some electronic manipulations, i'll need to remember to practice this too (doh! ANOTHER thing to practice...) Thanks for your input on that show... I wasn't really disappointed, its just hard to make mood music come off like the CD. Gasparyan was worth the price of admission and MORE!! If you need more encores, just let the man PLAY! Regards, Jim Lanpheer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 21:13:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20518; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:13:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:13:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008401bee5ef$32ad1160$56c8aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <37AC57B4.9704791B@spnz.org> Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:51:47 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"-w8JX2.0.WQ4.TwBjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My kids discovered the wonders of looping also. I hooked up a mic to my rig and let them make all kinds of wonderful noise. I hooked up my RP6 multi-effect so they could pitch-shift their voices. My 4 year old daughter inadvertently dropped her voice a couple of octaves, making her sound like something from the 7th level of hell! This scared her half to death. She cried for half an hour and hasn't been in my studio since. I hope I haven't damaged her for life. > > > Future Perfect wrote: > > > repeating'. Interesting. Any other loopers have non-musicians 'catch on' to > > whats happening? > > My kids! Since i got my loopers out again, my kids (five year old > twins) figured out that it makes "echoes", and started playing with > them. They'll ask me to plug in and turn on everything, then make up > little loops for themselves with the Echotron or Jamman. > > -dave > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 21:29:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA22277; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:29:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:29:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00bc01bee5f1$16166cc0$56c8aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:05:18 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"PVr_h3.0.Bt4.87Cjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My papa told me not to talk to strangers in casual conversation about 2 things: religion and politics. I think I can add gear preferences to that list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Unit Circle Media To: Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 8:11 AM Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush > > In a message dated 99-08-12 11:34:29 EDT, you write: > > > > << I've got both. Definitely if you can afford the Boomerang, it's a much > > better looper than the headrush. >> > > > > I completely disagree. If you use distorted, mangled guitar maybe... if > > however you're after clean loops of vocals or crystal clear PCM keyboard > > loops, the headrush has superior sound quality over the 'Rang. Period. Maybe > > the Boomerang is A BETTER LOOPER FOR YOU....NOT FOR ME. > > > Yeah, I think it was assumed that I was stating my opinion. As I said, I > have both. For what I do, the control (and loop length) I get with my > rang far overwhelms the sound quality of the headrush. > > This is starting to feel like a religious argument. > > > Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 22:58:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32594; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:58:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:58:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990813224313.007a14b0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:43:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush In-Reply-To: <00bc01bee5f1$16166cc0$56c8aec7@default> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wWonu3.0.qH7.pMDjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just as there are polytheists and countries like Switzerland I can just imagine the fun I'd have using a rig that includes a Headrush AND a 'Rang AND an EDP AND a JamMan AND (et cetera). Okay, that's too expensive and extravagant, but you see what I'm getting at. Apples are good; so are oranges. Pears too. I'm not particularly fond of bananas, but lots of people do like them. Like Miko Biffle pointed out, each piece of gear has its own strengths and weaknesses. A device that gives you ten minutes of infinitely layered and selectively undo-able loops at a sampling rate of 96k still doesn't necessarily make a lowly 2000ms digital delay with "hold" completely obsolete and useless. It's finding what all of the tools do best and using them in combination that appeals to me. It's a lot like a painter having a whole palette at his disposal as opposed to saying "I really like blue. You guys who like red don't know what you're talking about." I know it's not practical for most of us to finance and use a whole arsenal of loopers, and it ultimately comes down to the question "Which ONE is the best?". I guess we can't escape the answer "Well, it depends on how you're going to use it!" Tim At 06:05 PM 8/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >My papa told me not to talk to strangers in casual conversation about 2 >things: religion and politics. I think I can add gear preferences to that >list. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 13 23:19:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03111; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:19:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:19:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00bc01bee5f1$16166cc0$56c8aec7@default> References: Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:35:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: boomerang vs. headrush Resent-Message-ID: <"nqFHv.0.0O7.gPDjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >My papa told me not to talk to strangers in casual conversation about 2 >things: religion and politics. I think I can add gear preferences to that >list. > AMEN!!!!!! Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 10:50:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02195; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:50:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:50:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990814142839.59366.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.137.140] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 07:28:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"LNpjw.0.Rw7.BrNjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com O Great and Powerful Biffoz...You are coming through....or to? Papa Dave >From: "Mike Biffle" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: RE: More Brook/Gasparyan. >Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:42:09 -0700 > >Hey... > >I'm just wondering if you actually got my last email. We switched >over today and there was about 2 hours where there were bounced >messages. > >-m > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > > >>> "Liebig, Steuart A." 08/13 3:36 PM >>> >isn't mark ribot all over the new sylvian? also, i believe frisell is >on one >cut . . . > >stig > > > > BTW, if anyone's heard Sylvian's latest CD, doesn't it sound like >he's > > lifted Torn's guitar sound for the CD. It's almost like he used >samples of > > previous work he did with Torn on this CD. Sylvian is the only >credited > > guitarist on this CD, just wondered what you thought. > > > > Tom > > > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 11:04:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03929; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:04:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:04:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000a01bee666$55020140$e0954e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Live sequencing. Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:04:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"uj5v12.0.Wm.8GOjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Good point! My six-year old son loves to get in front of the microphone and loop all kinds of nonsense -- bits of songs, silly sounds, zany sayings, hysterical laughter, screaming, etc. and overdub himself ad infinitum. My wife says I should record this and distribute the tape as a warning to anyone considering having children that this is what they can expect to hear nonstop for several years . . . James -----Original Message----- From: Dave Stagner To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Live sequencing. > > >Future Perfect wrote: > >> repeating'. Interesting. Any other loopers have non-musicians 'catch on' to >> whats happening? > >My kids! Since i got my loopers out again, my kids (five year old >twins) figured out that it makes "echoes", and started playing with >them. They'll ask me to plug in and turn on everything, then make up >little loops for themselves with the Echotron or Jamman. > >-dave > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 12:48:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14385; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:48:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:48:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:22 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: finding a Zoom 2100 Resent-Message-ID: <"G-y0j2.0.oz2.2XPjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Finally decided to pick up a 2100 only to find no dealer in NYC had them (sound familiar? I had a similar bitch two weeks ago over the Headrush). No from Chuck Levin, no from J&S. Zzounds' site had a warning that their secure server was iffy, and they don't confirm if an item is in stock, anyway. I didn't call Musician's Friend first because their catalog price was $150. After scratching everybody else off, I did call MF and they matched the Sam Ash price of $139. Me: "But do you actually have one? Nobody else does!" MF: they have 1155 of them!! Let's see, at six seconds each.... I also got the Headrush from them. I've gotta put them at the top of my list, give these guys a call--they'll match any price, the shelves are full, they're nice as hell.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 13:23:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA18219; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:23:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:23:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990814120156.00859b50@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:01:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Live sequencing. In-Reply-To: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A76DAE39@usilms12.cai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"zo9lK2.0.m14.1AQjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:59 PM 8/6/99 -0400, Jim L. wrote: >An informal poll: > >When doing your live looping gigs, i'm curious how many of you use sequencing in your gigs, and >perhaps any tips that you've found to more successfully integrate it into >your show so that its seamless (no 3 minute breaks to load up software >etc..) and leaves room for improvisation (section lengths are not fixed time >frames). > >Thanks, >Jim Lanpheer. > > Jim et.al., I use MIDI sequencing only when I have to do a solo gig and there is no one else performing with me. In that case, I have the songs arranged in a Yamaha QY300 more or less in order of how they'll be performed, and I improvise bass parts around them. Better yet, I'm enjoying solo bass gigs with looping devices (usually my 2 Zoom 2100s) where I make it up as I go along, or I have a rough sketch in my mind of how the "piece" will sound. In short, too much MIDI sequencing, in my opinion, just goes to show how technology has become fetishised, and the results are, as you found with the Brooks performance, often disappointingly dull. Best to all, Michael. ================================================================ Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Department of Social Sciences Texas A&M International University Laredo, TX 78041 U.S.A. Telephone: (956)326-2634 Office; (956)326-2464 FAX E-Mail myoder@tamiu.edu Web Page: http://tamiu.edu/~myoder/ ================================================================ "English ideas about property have given us both the Bill of Rights and the industrial slum." (Archibald C. Coolidge, Jr.) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 14:10:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24001; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:10:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:10:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990814123713.008526b0@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:37:13 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun In-Reply-To: <37B04B3E.5923@voicenet.com> References: <19990810142238.14593.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"z_H471.0.i45.MhQjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello loopy loopers! Would those of you who have experience with phase shifters (a.k.a. "phasers") please offer me a little advice: Which is better in terms of reliability and recording sound quality (noise), the MXR Phase 90 or the Electro-Harmonix (Sovtek) Small Stone? I've found that the phaser that's built into the Zoom 2100 is a little too "digital" sounding for my taste. Thanks! Cheers (or "LOL" as Lee-ohki would say), Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 14:40:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27112; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:40:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 14:40:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908141834.OAA26341@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun Date: Sat, 14 Aug 99 12:33:33 -0000 x-sender: smonroe@pop.ecentral.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: S Monroe To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"Q-Cpb1.0.uR6.QQRjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hello loopy loopers! > >Would those of you who have experience with phase shifters (a.k.a. >"phasers") please offer me a little advice: > >Which is better in terms of reliability and recording sound quality >(noise), the MXR Phase 90 or the Electro-Harmonix (Sovtek) Small Stone? The MXR phase 90 I bought in the late 70's is still running strong. I dunno if that's a testament to it's reliability or not. Never tried a small stone...In fact the only EH device I have ever owned (still own) is a 16 sec. delay and foot controller... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 16:18:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05830; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:18:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201bee68d$328e0ce0$25944e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:38:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"bou233.0.Ig.rWSjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In 1980 I picked up an MXR Phase 100 (a few more settings than the Phase 90) to use with my Fender Rhodes. I always loved the warm, clean, fat sound it lent to the Rhodes, especially the "Leslie" effects that it could produce. Nearly 20 years later it still sounds great. If you can turn one up I'd definitely recommend it. I had used a borrowed Phase 90 around the same time and liked it very much as well. James -----Original Message----- From: Michael S. Yoder To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun >Hello loopy loopers! > >Would those of you who have experience with phase shifters (a.k.a. >"phasers") please offer me a little advice: > >Which is better in terms of reliability and recording sound quality >(noise), the MXR Phase 90 or the Electro-Harmonix (Sovtek) Small Stone? > >I've found that the phaser that's built into the Zoom 2100 is a little too >"digital" sounding for my taste. > >Thanks! > >Cheers (or "LOL" as Lee-ohki would say), >Michael. >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > >Dr. Michael S. Yoder >Assistant Professor of Geography, >Coordinator of Urban Studies >Texas A&M International University >5201 University Blvd. >Laredo, TX 78041 >Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 >Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 16:16:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05640; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:16:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 16:16:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Todd Madson'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Reznor's Folly Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 15:53:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"wV2tt.0.Os.MeSjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not in anyway condoning the behaviour Todd points out to us from Mr T. Reznor, but life can get very weird when you live on the road for over a year and experience endless days in motor vehicles getting to the next clubfull of half-drunk "fans." The point about CD's is a great one -- they're getting so cheap! dk >After reading the message about Reznor's little problems at the first >Lalapalooza (I believe this is the show where he went ballistic and >smashed a bunch of equipment and slugged his manager in the face and >went near crazy - I read this in a weird interview with him. Shows >what lack of sleep and fragile high-tech stuff breaking down in extreme >conditions will do for you if you have no coping skills). From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 20:24:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30165; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:24:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:24:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001e01bee6b1$f24ec140$845bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <000201bee68d$328e0ce0$25944e0c@u73x0> Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:05:47 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"FA3yJ3.0.ej6.KCWjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you want ''swoshy'' sound go to small stone...Analogman got clones but i don't try them yet. Anyway all the mxr stuff are GREAT.The Boss super phase (green) four controls, works and its easy to find and CHEAP. Good leslies!!! Julio ----- Original Message ----- From: James Pokorny To: Sent: Saturday, August 14, 1999 4:38 PM Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun > In 1980 I picked up an MXR Phase 100 (a few more settings than the Phase 90) > to use with my Fender Rhodes. I always loved the warm, clean, fat sound it > lent to the Rhodes, especially the "Leslie" effects that it could produce. > Nearly 20 years later it still sounds great. If you can turn one up I'd > definitely recommend it. I had used a borrowed Phase 90 around the same > time and liked it very much as well. > > James > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael S. Yoder > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Saturday, August 14, 1999 2:23 PM > Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun > > > >Hello loopy loopers! > > > >Would those of you who have experience with phase shifters (a.k.a. > >"phasers") please offer me a little advice: > > > >Which is better in terms of reliability and recording sound quality > >(noise), the MXR Phase 90 or the Electro-Harmonix (Sovtek) Small Stone? > > > >I've found that the phaser that's built into the Zoom 2100 is a little too > >"digital" sounding for my taste. > > > >Thanks! > > > >Cheers (or "LOL" as Lee-ohki would say), > >Michael. > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > >Dr. Michael S. Yoder > >Assistant Professor of Geography, > >Coordinator of Urban Studies > >Texas A&M International University > >5201 University Blvd. > >Laredo, TX 78041 > >Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 > >Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 14 21:38:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04912; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:38:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:38:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B61231.5EC6@voicenet.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:04:49 -0400 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun References: <000201bee68d$328e0ce0$25944e0c@u73x0> <001e01bee6b1$f24ec140$845bdfc8@doutor> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"l8TvZ1.0.JW.TDXjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > >Which is better in terms of reliability and recording sound quality > > >(noise), the MXR Phase 90 or the Electro-Harmonix (Sovtek) Small Stone? I've found phasers, more so than other types of pedals, vary greatly from company to company. They all have so much personality be it an EH, MXR, DOD, Ibanez, or cheapass stuff like the Arion or Korg PMO series. I use an old DOD FX20B phaser I bought 10+ years ago. Don't know if they still make it but it should be cheap and plentiful used via Daddy's junky or the like. another Fav is the mid vintage Ibanez phaser from the TS9 metal case series. I have one of these in rackmount form on my UE400 and it's very juicy. Like I said there's a lot of variety. I know a Vintage gearhead who *always* uses a crummy plastic Arion phaser. noisy as hell but unique in an ugly way. The Boss one mentioned also is a winner and like the DOD probably a lot easier to find and cheaper than the EH or MXR. If you live near a decent music store than gets used stuff in try out what they have in stock to see what characteristics you like. Also try a few different sources into one. I know a drummer who likes to record maracas and tambourines through a phaser and a spacerock band that uses one on their vocals most of the time set on a sloooow LFO. You'll certainly get a different feel using that than playing a guitar lead or chord and you might surprise yourself what pedal best meets your needs. Of course the king of new pedal phasers (espcially for recording) is the new MOOG phaser recently released by Bob Moog himself via his company Big Briar. This is similar to the famous Moog 12 stage rack mount unit in a high quality stomp with tons of CV ins, wildass LFO, resonance, overdrive, etc etc. A bit pricy but certainly a few levels above any of the other stomps out there and it rivals all those $$$ VINTAGE!! racks (Roland SPH, etc at a fraction of the price they're going for these days). http://www.bigbriar.com/12stagephaser.htm There also is a site dedicated just to stompand rack phasers with high quality soundfiles, pics, and full info on each omdel including many odd ones Big Jam, Maestro, etc). If I can find the URL I'll post it later or if someone knows what I'm talking about please send it to the list. Phasers are one of the most useful effects for loopers IMO (Ob Loop content! :)) because the evolve a sound over time and if you loop that sweep or change it can make quite an impression as it keeps coming around and around... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 02:48:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08539; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 02:48:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 02:48:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990815063054.5696.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 23:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: MPX-G2 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"y2aOD1.0.gj1.bxbjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David- Does the G2 limit you as to the number of times an effect can be used within a preset? I seem to recall reading reviews on both the G2 & the T.C.E. Fireworx that indicated that you could only have one delay per preset. I think that one reason I'm so fond of my Digitech boxes,(2101 & 2120), is that you can add delay modules up to total memory capacity. One thing I've come up with on my 2120, is using a 5 second Quad Delay & assigning LFOs to alter the delay % of two of the taps. It kind of gives it a faux time stretch/shrink effect. I usually feed this output into a "psychedelic" phaser or deep flanger. I can also have a parallel leg going with a dual delay followed by reverb or whatever. My main problem right now is having adequate foot control for all of the parameters I wish to control. I've been considering the FC-200 & a couple of extra volume/exp pedals. It's good to know that you use the FC-200, as you don't seem to make many bad choices when it comes to gear. If life was fair, I would have to send money every time you post to the list. I've picked up a lot of good ideas from your letters. Many thanks! John --- Dpcoffin@aol.com wrote: > Line6 tech support told me recently that their > stompers will ship in about 2 > months. I bet these folks will prove more reliable > than DOD or EH. > > I got my G2 from J&S Music for around $1000. The > JamMan feature seems to work > fine (I'm using an FC-200 with three additional DP-2 > momentary switches to > run it), but I've been disappointed with the unit as > a more generic > long-delay device, as mentioned here before. There's > 20 sec of mono delay > memory, which should also be configurable as 10-sec > stereo delay. > Unfortunately, there's an acknowledged bug that > turns stereo delay into > ping-pong delay above about 5.3 sec. Lex told me > they have no plans to fix > this. Worse, in my efforts to set up looping delays > from scratch, using exp. > pedals to control feedback and input (which I prefer > to the overly complex > and limiting JamMan arrangement), I've encountered > overload problems after > about three layers...not a problem with the JamMan > algo, btw...anyone wanting > more G2 info/opinions, feel free to PEM me at > dcoffin@taunton.com...or just > post here, and I'll tellya what I can. > dpc > > === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 07:19:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA03853; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:19:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:19:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 06:37:19 EDT Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"F2Dpj1.0.UG.4Yfjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com rocktron makes a really good phaser called the orange peeler. extremely well built and very versatile. definitely worth checking out. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 11:35:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25397; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:35:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:35:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Phasers on Stun Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:18:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37B61231.5EC6@voicenet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"3J1MQ3.0.Fo5.fejjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> Of course the king of new pedal phasers (espcially for recording) is the >> new MOOG phaser recently released by Bob Moog himself via his company >> Big Briar. This is similar to the famous Moog 12 stage rack mount unit >> in a high quality stomp with tons of CV ins, wildass LFO, resonance, >> overdrive, etc etc. A bit pricy but certainly a few levels above any of >> the other stomps out there and it rivals all those $$$ VINTAGE!! I have to agree that the MoogerFooger 12-stage phaser is an awesome pedal. I have a Mutron Bi-Phase, Lovetone Doppelganger, and the MoogerFooger, which is the most flexible (and cheapest) of all three. All parameters (rate, depth, resonance, and amount) are basically controllable via expression pedals. and phase depth is the most dramatic on this pedal. In fact, last night the guitar player in my band used it to get a Hammond B3 type of sound with his guitar. Having the ability to control the LFO rate and depth with expression pedals makes for some great sound shaping tools. The Doppelganger is great as well since it has two LFO's that can be run with two different sweeps and/or rates (and in tandem or oscillating), which can make for some wild sounds as well. They are set at Low and High frequency "spans". Expression pedals can be used to control the rates of these LFO's as well. You also get a vibrato and a signal blend. There really isn't "resonance" control, but a colour knob which seems to control this, but it's not as powerful as the Moogerfooger. It's somewhat a different beast than the Moogerfooger The best price I found for the Moogerfooger Phaser was $285 from Rogue Music in NYC and the Lovetone Doppelganger will be in the $350-400 range depending on UK exchange rates, which must be ordered directly from them. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 11:55:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27733; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:55:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:55:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B6DEDF.116C5EB4@spnz.org> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:38:07 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"WXtev3.0.AJ6.Byjjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Don't forget to look at other vintage phasers, too. Mine is a "Systech", and i've never seen another one (or any other effects by this company). It has two separate "sweep rate" knobs (footswitch selectable), and an "emphasis" knob (seems to be mostly a highpass filter), and a deliciously sweet funky tone, all in a bulletproof cast aluminum case. Which raises a question... are you using the phaser onstage, or in the studio? For stage purposes, things like reliability and small size matter (in other words, get an MXR!). But for the studio, tone matters. Keep checking the pawn shops and secondhand guitar stores for non-"vintage" old effects. Sometimes you can find real gems for cheap. Rather than a do-it-all phaser, you could have three or four distinctive phaser voices that way, since all different brands seem to have their own characteristic tone. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 12:07:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29362; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:07:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:07:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B6DC46.ACB6A7B6@spnz.org> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:27:02 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: JamMan for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2bDfW.0.D06.onjjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm selling my JamMan to pay for the new amp rig i just bought (a pair of Trace Elliot Velocettes, woo! Toobs in stereo!). I was going to put it on Ebay, but i thought i'd let the LD crowd have a shot first. 8 sec, near-new condition, original power supply, footswitch, and manual. $400 for LD members, pay with a cashier's check/money order and i'll pay shipping in the Lower 48, or we can work out international shipping. If no one here takes it in the next three days, i'll put it on Ebay. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 14:09:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09897; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:09:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:09:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: BCyayli@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:49:08 EDT Subject: Re: JamMan for sale To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"al5Yt2.0.xw1.xsljt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi ..i'm definitely interested in buying your JamMan..(as i wait for the EDP - who knows when that will happen...)..let me know what to do, if it's not already taken..thanks..beth cohen From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 14:50:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14779; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:50:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:50:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990815145334.007a5100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:53:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun In-Reply-To: <37B6DEDF.116C5EB4@spnz.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"H74gW2.0.dQ3.9gmjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I used to have a "Super Sweep" phase shifter that, when connected normally, was a lot like a Small Stone. However, if you unplugged the input and left the output hooked up to an amp, it would generate the strangest "flying saucer" sounds that could be modified with the speed and depth knobs. Not the most useful pedal, but pretty cool once in a while... Tim At 10:38 AM 8/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >Don't forget to look at other vintage phasers, too. .... Keep checking the pawn shops and secondhand guitar stores for >non-"vintage" old effects. Sometimes you can find real gems for cheap. >Rather than a do-it-all phaser, you could have three or four distinctive >phaser voices that way, since all different brands seem to have their >own characteristic tone. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 14:54:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15140; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:54:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:54:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990815144748.007a1e90@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:47:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Phasers on Stun In-Reply-To: References: <37B61231.5EC6@voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"_QpCr1.0.7F3.3bmjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As a point of reference in the same league with the $700 JamMan a few months back, I saw a '70's Moog phaser sell on eBay for close to $800 a week or two ago. Whole lotta pricey whooshin' goin' on! Tim >The best price I found for the Moogerfooger Phaser was $285 from Rogue Music >in NYC and the Lovetone Doppelganger will be in the $350-400 range depending >on UK exchange rates, which must be ordered directly from them. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 15:29:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19567; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:29:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:29:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a301bee750$c59aa980$d7c0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Phasers Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:02:47 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Qz7EY2.0.024.Rzmjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I haven't heard anybody mention the Lovetone Doppelganger phaser/vibrato http://www.channel.co.uk/lovetone/ Haven't heard one, but I have heard incredible things about it. I believe there is a Harmony Central review as well. It would be much more expensive than your average phaser, but it seems to have many more possibilities. I'd love to really hear what one can do myself. It's got more controls and inputs than you can shake a stick at. MicahH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 17:31:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03981; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:31:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:31:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:58:25 -0400 Subject: FS/T: Votex, TC Sustain/Para EQ From: "Ryan Blum" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-Id: <19990815205913.A2BF924A18@acme.sb.west.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"PyAjv1.0._M7.sfojt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello everyone... a couple quasi-loopy things that are begging to be let out of my closet: Lexicon Vortex bought from the showroom of a Guitar Center in the Bay Area. It has rack scratches, a cracked LCD panel and no manual or box (i'll throw it in my lost Jamman's box for ya), but is in perfect working order. TC Electronics Sustain/Parametric EQ pedal This is the official Bill Frisell pedal. Gives your guitar the infamous warm, pleasing, round sound. Also has a very useful parametric eq and a goofy little distortion switch that gives you a couple extra overtones you can only really hear when cranked up loud as heck. I think I also heard Eric Johnson covets these things... Anyways, it was bought used with no manual/box/anything, and has a ton of scratches on the top that I didn't put there. These things are very out of production, very sturdy and extremely cool-looking. I would really like to trade either of these for a Mackie 1202, but i'll take any offers. Send offers to lowfrqcy@west.net. Thank you! Ryan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 15 18:50:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13128; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:50:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:50:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000a01bee76b$27ab3080$2332dacf@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <19990815205913.A2BF924A18@acme.sb.west.net> Subject: New Version of "Star Spangled Banner" Released Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:11:41 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"_3a8l3.0.pK2.tjpjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This coming Wednesday the 18th marks the 30th anniversary of Jimi Hendrix' playing of the American National Anthem to approximately 30,000 people at the Woodstock Music & Art Festival. It is in the spirit of this event that EarthLight Productions announces the release of Stephen Goodman's own arrangement of "The Star Spangled Banner". This will be available for listening in RealAudio G2 format at the EarthLight Studios site starting Wednesday, August 18th, 600 Pacific Daylight Time. It will be found at http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html - where, for nearly four years, we have been presenting new and original material for your on-line entertainment, and the infamous Loop Of The Week (now completely celebrity-free!). Do come and listen, reflect, tell us what you think, or what you thought about. Your thoughts / postings will be put on the page in the future! Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions-Studios * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 00:09:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19555; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:09:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:09:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B785EF.D72CFACC@spnz.org> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 22:30:55 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: FS/T: Votex, TC Sustain/Para EQ References: <19990815205913.A2BF924A18@acme.sb.west.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"xk4YB2.0.ts3.SOujt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If i had the money, i'd buy them just as backups for my own! The TC Sustain/Para is the only guitar compressor i've heard that sounds really good to my ears. And the Vortex... let's just say i was willing to part with my JamMan in order to buy a stereo amp rig to do it justice. :} -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 05:06:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA19279; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 05:06:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 05:06:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E094782F8C4@letterbox.kscl.com> From: Anthony Mullen To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com, "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: [OFF TOPIC] DEHLI Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:41:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"TNkKj.0.6E4.V-yjt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can help. I'm going to Dehli, India at the end of September and I'm looking to find a couple of decent instrument shops AND I'm also looking to get singing lessons over there (work on my drone/tone/timbre). Does anyone have an idea of where I might start trying to follow this up? Also - anyone got any info/URLs of the types of Indian singing that exist? I'm afriad I'm a bit of a tourist in this regard. Any help appreciated Thanks Anthony > ---------- > From: > Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com[SMTP:Loopers-Delight-d-request@an > nihilist.com] > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Sent: 15 August 1999 08:41 > To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com > Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #330 > > <>< Brook/Gasparyan.>><>< Zoom 2100>><>< Stun>><>< Stun>><>< Stun>><><> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 06:45:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA26257; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:45:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 06:45:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:38:58 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Carter To: Loopers-Delight Subject: rack vs. floor multi-FX In-Reply-To: <004c01bee4fc$7cd0c1e0$152310ac@Douglas> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"aZkeb1.0.SI6.3h-jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry to dredge up the subject of guitar FX yet again but I'd really appreciate an oppinion on this. I'm currently looking at replacing my Boss ME8 floor based multiFX with either a GT-3 (floor based) or GX700 (rack) processor. I already use a MIDI floor cntroller to drive an EDP and SX700 so the rack option gives me one less box on the floor. However, I do rather like the immediacy of patch selection on a floor based unit (especially when a jam suddenly takes a new direction) plus I can use my favorite stomp boxes in the send/return loop without too much extra cabling. Opinions - please. More help please - if people are using multiFX wiht stereo outs together with an EDP, how are you wiring this? My current set-up goes: Guitar ===> FloorFX(stereo) ===> Preamp ========> MIXER ===> Reverb | ^ (stereo) |FX send(mono) | | | | | EDP ===> rackFX(stereo) PA (stereo) Ok, the easy solution is to buy (if I could) another echoplex and keep stereo throughout. I'm also thinking of swapping my mixing desk for a rack unit to keep the whole thing more mobile. Again, a rack FX processor might make things more portable but a floor unit can be used alone for non-looped/low FX gigs and with MIDI in I can always stick it in/on the rack and drive it from the floor controller. Will someone please (only just avoided use of caps. lock) tell me what to buy. When I just had a line of stomp boxes the answer was simple - another stomp box, todays technology has fucked my head. Jim Carter University of Bristol Cantock's Close Bristol BS8 1TS UK Tel - 0117 9289934 FAX - 0117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 12:10:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA01111; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:10:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:10:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B833F9.937B8D0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:53:31 -0400 From: Michael Haumesser Reply-To: notnoise@ix.netcom.com Organization: notnoise studio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] DEHLI References: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E094782F8C4@letterbox.kscl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"gn8He.0.tJ7.mB3kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try Ken Lee (elevenshadows@theeleventhhour.com) He's been to India a couple of times and might be able to help. I think he's in Morocco right at this moment but depending on when you go I think he returns this month. I'm jealous. Have fun. Anthony Mullen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering if anyone can help. I'm going to Dehli, India at the end of > September and I'm looking to find a couple of decent instrument shops AND > I'm also looking to get singing lessons over there (work on my > drone/tone/timbre). Does anyone have an idea of where I might start trying > to follow this up? > > Also - anyone got any info/URLs of the types of Indian singing that exist? > I'm afriad I'm a bit of a tourist in this regard. > > Any help appreciated > > Thanks > Anthony > > > ---------- > > From: > > Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com[SMTP:Loopers-Delight-d-request@an > > nihilist.com] > > Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Sent: 15 August 1999 08:41 > > To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com > > Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #330 > > > > <>< > Brook/Gasparyan.>><>< > Zoom 2100>><>< > Stun>><>< > Stun>><>< > Stun>><><> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 12:47:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07148; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:47:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:47:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B83ACA.C1AF2485@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:22:41 -0400 From: Michael Haumesser Reply-To: notnoise@ix.netcom.com Organization: notnoise studio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: rack vs. floor multi-FX References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YVqq13.0.Hf.Ce3kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Don't really know your boxes in particular but here's my experience, I use a multi-rack unit (Korg A1) plus a bunch of stomp box's. I like the sound of both for different reasons and simplicity has never really been my goal though by building a pedal board I have achieved some ease of set up. For the A1 I have the satellite controller and I get the sound (which I love) of the rack and the ease of foot control. I have three different channels with different characteristics that I can switch between and I wanted to be able to loop using them all. Two of the channels were mono and one was stereo. I run everything through a mackie 1202 right before the power amp then use the send to the Oberheim EDP and return it to the mackie. I do loose stereo on the loops but I get everything into the looper. I used to use a 6 channel Rane line mixer but it didn't have sends and I really find them invaluable. If your of the resource to get another looper and stereo was a priority you could use this same setup with a mixer w/ a stereo send. ==Korg A1============Mixer Amp Chanel 1 Sorry to dredge up the subject of guitar FX yet again but I'd really > appreciate an oppinion on this. > > I'm currently looking at replacing my Boss ME8 floor based multiFX > with either a GT-3 (floor based) or GX700 (rack) processor. > I already use a MIDI floor cntroller to drive an EDP and SX700 > so the rack option gives me one less box on the floor. > However, I do rather like the immediacy of patch selection on a floor > based unit (especially when a jam suddenly takes a new direction) > plus I can use my favorite stomp boxes in the send/return loop > without too much extra cabling. > Opinions - please. > > More help please - if people are using multiFX wiht stereo outs > together with an EDP, how are you wiring this? > My current set-up goes: > > Guitar ===> FloorFX(stereo) ===> Preamp ========> MIXER ===> Reverb > | ^ (stereo) > |FX send(mono) | | > | | | > EDP ===> rackFX(stereo) PA > (stereo) > > Ok, the easy solution is to buy (if I could) another echoplex and > keep stereo throughout. I'm also thinking of swapping my mixing desk > for a rack unit to keep the whole thing more mobile. Again, a rack > FX processor might make things more portable but a floor unit can > be used alone for non-looped/low FX gigs and with MIDI in I can > always stick it in/on the rack and drive it from the floor controller. > > Will someone please (only just avoided use of caps. lock) tell me > what to buy. When I just had a line of stomp boxes the answer was > simple - another stomp box, todays technology has fucked my head. > > Jim Carter > University of Bristol > Cantock's Close > Bristol BS8 1TS > UK > Tel - 0117 9289934 > FAX - 0117 9293746 > e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 12:47:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07080; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:47:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:47:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:28:57 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Jim.Carter@bristol.ac.uk Subject: Re: rack vs. floor multi-FX Resent-Message-ID: <"jVhCn1.0.p51.2p3kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jim Carter wrote... > I'm currently looking at replacing my Boss ME8 floor based multiFX > with either a GT-3 (floor based) or GX700 (rack) processor. > I already use a MIDI floor cntroller to drive an EDP and SX700 > so the rack option gives me one less box on the floor. > However, I do rather like the immediacy of patch selection on a floor > based unit (especially when a jam suddenly takes a new direction) > plus I can use my favorite stomp boxes in the send/return loop > without too much extra cabling. Hi Jim... I had a GX-700 which I loved and have since switched to a GT-5. I use a midi floor controller as well... a Digitech PMC-10. At first I thought that having the GT-5 on the floor as well would be a problem, but found out that there's a huge hidden advantage. I program one button on the PMC-10 to call the first patch in a bank (5 patches on the GT-5) The GT-5 patch appears (patch 1 of 5 in that particular bank) I've basically copied that first patch and then varied it... more or less disto, different modulation, etc. So for each button you program on the midi box you get five accessible variants of a single sound (or a certain ballpark). With one bank of ten buttons I have: 1. 5 clean sounds... some bright and shimmery as well as some good jazz types 2. 5 amp sims of various grinds... mostly light to medium od 3. 5 fairly conventional amp-like crunch-drives 4. 5 GT-5 heavy disto's... some with wild panning and delay tricks. 5. 5 Big Muff (turns on loop 1 of my loop switcher and selects the patch) 6. 5 PE Experience Fuzz patches (loop 2 on the switcher) 7. 5 Big Cheese patches (loop 3 on the switcher) 8. Main Vortex on/off... (a/b switched with two DMC GCX Expander relays) 9. Looper Vortex on/off... (a/b switched with DMC GCX Expander relays) This is ONE bank on my midi controller... I have another bank for EDP control, one for Waldorf 4-pole control, and am programming another entire bank for the really wacked GT-5 patches that aren't falling into my basic 7 categories already assigned. Mostly deep space, synth, bass and pitch stuff. Only 4 banks will give me a boatload of sounds... a single GT-5 based performance bank gives me access to 35 GT-5 patches! > More help please - if people are using multiFX wiht stereo outs together with an > EDP, how are you wiring this? My current set-up goes: My EDP is on aux send one of my rack mixer. Channels 1 and 2 are the GT-5 stereo output. CH3 and 4 are the main Vortex output... both of these have the aux sends up so either can be fed to the EDP. There's a Looper Vortex to mess with the EDP mono output and get it stereoized as well. I'm currently not using aux send 2 but will probalby add a Korg DL8000r for major delay damage to my already Vortexed stuff as well as the EDP itself. Can't wait to hear how that sounds!!! > Ok, the easy solution is to buy (if I could) another echoplex and keep stereo > throughout. I'm also thinking of swapping my mixing desk for a rack unit to > keep the whole thing more mobile. Eventually a second EDP would be nice for me as well... I found a used Roland m120 line mixer which seems to be very nice sounding and has balanced outs, a really loud headphone amp, 2 aux busses, and a cool stereo mix input which only goes to the monitors and not the mains for click tracks or whatever. I also have a Mackie 1202VLZ for further mix-mongering (vocals, filter, drumbox...) > Again, a rack FX processor might make things more portable but a floor unit can > be used alone for non-looped/low FX gigs and with MIDI in I can always stick it in/on > the rack and drive it from the floor controller. Believe me... The GT-5 ALONE on the floor going straight to the mains, can be a great short delay (2 secs) looper as well as get totally freaky all by it's lonesome. Once coupled with midi control you've got a huge ballpark to work with... > Will someone please (only just avoided use of caps. lock) tell me what to buy. > When I just had a line of stomp boxes the answer was simple - another stomp > box, todays technology has fucked my head. Get the GT-5 or GT-3... I've finally heard the POD sounds, and while they're certainly nice... the COSM Boss stuff sounds just as good to me. I'd say the initial presets for amp-like sounds are better on the POD, but once you've learned to tweak the COSM stuff, you're in exactly the same department AND have a built in floor controller with great control of tons of effects as well. best regards, -Miko Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 13:12:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10805; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:12:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:12:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9bc38214.24e99de1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:01:21 EDT Subject: Phasers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"f-6zV1.0.1H2.5G4kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com all of this gear lust talk reminded me that about 2 years ago a buddie gave me an DeArmond "Twister" phase shifter, i have never used it till today.......once again the question arises, when will i start making music rather than trying out every combination of sound twisting, warping insanity that i can get my grubby little hands on........can you indeed make a silk purse out of a sows ear?........:).......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 13:52:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17039; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:52:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:52:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:40:23 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Nemoguitt@aol.com Subject: Re: Phasers Resent-Message-ID: <"ied76.0.Cl3.dr4kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> 08/16 10:11 AM >>> > all of this gear lust talk reminded me that about 2 years ago a buddie gave > me an DeArmond "Twister" phase shifter, i have never used it till > today.......once again the question arises, when will i start making music > rather than trying out every combination of sound twisting, warping insanity > that i can get my grubby little hands on........can you indeed make a silk > purse out of a sows ear?........:).......michael Hello MichaelNotMiko! You know... I often feel that way about my gear, but Saturday at a recording jam, I found, once again, that when engaged in a real playing situation, that you indeed use your tools to achieve a musical (hopefully) end. It depends on how prepared you are to just play and stomp and go with what you've got at the moment... You've got to relax and let it all hang out! Hard work goes into getting your sounds just right... You want plenty of tools for your improv vernacular. Whether they're electronic toys or just hands on instrument... You're going to have to put plenty of time into technique if you want to speak fluently. When you're finally on the spot playing... Behold!.. Silk!!! Purse!!! Cow dung!!! Noise... and hopefully the Muse looking over you shoulder! A final note: Thank you a million times over for the Chain Tape project! I'm waiting for my shot at the miniatures tape now circulating. Best Regards, Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 14:09:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20476; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:09:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:09:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201bee810$68756f40$3a2310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Ken M" , Subject: Re: Line-6 DL4 - anyone tried it yet? Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:36:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"24_dj1.0.4H4.V15kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ken M. wrote: A looper.. Something I can use live >and in the studio. > >Any info is great! I can afford about $500 for the unit, so >I'm up in the air about the EDP, Boomerang, and Akai... For $500, I'd skip the Headrush (or buy two). The Line 6 unit is rumored to ship in October. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 14:07:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20053; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:07:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:07:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000101bee810$66b03fa0$3a2310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Wordsman, Lee" , "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: Re: EDP question Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:33:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"RNnbF2.0.NE4.D15kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lee Wordsman wrote: >My Digitech 4 sec timemachine attenuates each layer as a new overdub is >added. The result is that new material is in the front of the mix while the >older layers fall away over time. Does the EDP allow you to maintain each >layer in overdub on the surface (say by using 100% feedback)? I assume it >does. Then by varrying feedback you can move a set of layers into the >background? > >What about these other looper's that have been mentioned. Zoom, Akai, >Boomerang, others. For my purpose the attentuation that occurs with the >digitech can be limiting at times. For instance, I was listening to a >Brahms clarinet concerto. The various members of the string quartet were >playing a sort of droning series of chords and the clarinet was playing a >melody over the chords. I thought that it would be cool to create that >droning series of chords (or, in my case one or two chords given my 4 sec. >limitation). However, with the timemachine, the chords never quite voice >the way I want them. > >Are people doing stuff like this at all. I've heard samples from the LD >series and from various MPG's but nothing that quite falls into the area of >mimicing a string quartet's chord voicings. > >I may be mixing terminology wrong here but hope someone understands the >question. The Akai Headrush has an 11.8 sec. "sample" mode which allows for putting down a basic sample, then overdubbing forever with all overdubs at equal volume. You can shut off the "record" mode and solo over your sample-plus-overdubs, then continue to record more overdubs and/or instantly erase all but the original sample. In the "Normal Echo" mode, you can get near-equal overdubs with the feedback maxed out, but you can't "freeze" your loop and solo over it. I think the "string-quartet-plus-melody" is a fairly common sound in loopdom myself, perhaps because I do it all the time (and aren't I just so full of me?) But check out Fripp's solo Frippertronic thing on the League of Crafty Guitarists Live! album for sonething like what I imagine you're talking about. A bed of ambient clouds of chordlike lines over which he solos. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 14:11:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20788; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:11:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:11:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000001bee810$64093b80$3a2310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "James Keepnews" , Subject: Re: Headrush vs. Headrush (Delay vs. Sampling) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:11:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"375E_.0.uD4.B15kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Back in the week of Aug. 7, Jom Keepnews wrote: >So, I gots me the Headrush ($169 plus 5% off at www.musiciansfriend.com >-- how do they do it? amplitude...), kinda likes me the Headrush. Kinda. > >Certainly, as someone whose sole dedicated looping hardware has been a >slowly-disintegrating Digitech EchoPlus pedal (the PDS >something-or-other) from 1989, the Headrush beats the Bush era with a >stick the size of an oar straight out of the rowing scenes in Ben Hur -- >an era surely asking for it, to boot. I'll second my Svengali lover and >fashion consultant, one Kenneth Douglas Baldwin, that that's alot of >stick for $175, with 2-3 days shipping time, even. > >But, I'm troubled. Why Korg That's Akai, not Korg. I'd LUV to see Korg throw their hat into the bottom-dollar sample/loop ring, tho'. >went to so much trouble to create four >separate outs to create that not-exactly-cried-out-for four-head tapped >tape delay is surely beyond me. It is a convincing emulation of such a >vintage effect, but how many intend to ping that pong across four >outputs more than, say, three times, ever? I haven't even tried using the multi-out staggered four-head dingus yet, but I know some old school reggae dub junkies who loved that sound on the old Roland Spacedingus. I suspect, tho', it will be the kind of sound that might suggest possibilities for crazed rhythmic mayhem once I fire it up (and figure out where the fuck I'm going to obtain ANOTHER 4-track mixer). BTW, Alan Imberg indicated that he really enjoyed putting the 'rush last in his signal chain, after another looper, causing loops to bloom further in multi-dimensional mirrordom, if I remember his old posts correctly. >My extremely negligable >knowledge of signal-processing hardware manufacturing practice leads me >to suspect that, had they not striven to achieve this and left room for >other types of effects processing (filtration of delay line, reverse, >etc.), this whole 'rang v. 'rush imbroglio would go the way of, I don't >know, Fred Travelena and/or other vintage emulators. The switching also >strikes me as counter-intuitive, but that's simply a matter of >familiarity. Yes, it's an interesting point to dwell endlessly on - just what could the Akaiem (l'chaiem?) have done if they had really thought this thing through? Or DID they really think it through and this is as good as it gets for two beans? Six months to a year and the pocketbooks of delay-addicted Tinky Winkies will tell. > >Here's the nut of it (and it could lead to an interesting thread, if >anyone else on the list feels similarly) -- the ontology of delay vs. >that of sampling. Loopers created before the JamMan/EDP era were >souped-up delay pedals -- think of the EH 16-second or my own beloved, >disintegrating EchoPlus. Post-JM/EDP, this has been replaced with the >sensibility of sampling, a chunk of data that reflects the sensibility >of the snapshot, not the fed-back repeat. As we read in the specs, the >'rush allows for the aforementioned, disturbingly extensive four-head >delay, 11.3 second "sampling" looping and 23-second straight-up (or so >one might be led to believe) "delay." > >Thus, the first question I asked when I busted out the 'rush was, >"Where's the infinite repeat for the delay?" Ha ha, foolish, >presumptuous boy; there isn't one. "Infinite repeat" is clearly a dead >dog in the new looping era; that's a function only a "sampler" can >utilize. So...one can get 23 seconds of delay that can only be added to, >not set into place and soloed upon or messed with to any degree, less >the decaying of the line. Great for "a capella" Frippertronics (as >distinguished from "soundscaping," you understand...) and/or pieces like >one Kenneth Douglas Baldwin's "The Long Dance" (hey, Doug, you gonna >sell them "Solo Guitar" tapes on tour?) but basically a delay that is >additional or subtractional but by no means loopable. And again, I can only wonder if the Akaiii could have put a "freeze" into the delay. But in the mean time, I'm going to invest in a relatively cheap A-B box so's I can load up the delay, then bypass it to solo over it. The max feedback setting hangs for a looooonnnnggggg time. And by the way, with the'rush's time tap feature, I can now perform "The Long Dance" and program just when the cannonic repeat will enter, which I couldn't do back in the day w/ the EH16s or the Srellon-modded Lexicon PCM-42. (Did you ever see me try to start up "Dance" by listening to the click output of the PCM-42 over headphones? Man, I HATED that shit!) And no, I ain't gonna sell no tapes on the next batch of gigs. I was amazed to listen to some "rehersal" jams of m'self recorded direct to my relatively new Nacamichi cassette deck and the sound was so much better than the dubs of the old Solo Guitar project, I don't want to bother with the old units. And besides, I'm sure that some digital medium will prove better, as soon as I choose which. And besides, I don't want to sell any audio artifacts until I do six months-to-a-year of gigs. > >Indeed, how much is it really "delay"? Like the "looping" mode, one is >required to set in/out points for the extent of the delay line, >something one shouldn't expect of a delay process; that should be >well-determined in advance, unless you _want_ to tap a tempo. This >approach is demonstrated on the 'rush when one tries to increase or >decrease the "coarse" time dial. In the EH/EchoPlus worldview, this >would speed up or slow down the pitch of the delayed signal according to >whether or not the delay time, once set, was decreased or increased, >respectively. Lovely chattering aluminum locust or pre-cambrian >swampscape effects, respectively, could obtain from such actions in the >old-skool looper. The Headrush? Fuggedaboudit. The "delay" becomes >either clipped or extended but with the only effect from my experiments >being the basic interruption of such a delay line, nothing else. I never >thought to investigate this difference pre-purchase and more fool me. I find the basic processes (live, on-the-fly looping/delaying/overdubbed sampling vs. "prepared" prelogisticised l/d/o-s) to be an interesting "line in the sand". We all must ask ourselves what the tool is for. The analog based dick-with-the-length-and-the-pitch-will-likewise-be-dicked thing is definitely fun, and I miss it on the 'rush, but it points to the line in the sand again: are we having more fun playing our guitars (or whatever) or playing with knobs that alter the sound of our whatevers? I am so much of the play-guitar school that I don't miss the dick-with-the-signal that much. > >Kim recently discussed this pitch-shifting knob-twist as being cool but >off the page as far as next-gen EDPs go. Which is fine -- a nicely >tricked out "sample" oriented looper does things these old >"delay"-oriented loopers will never do. But I'm still puzzled by the >choices made by Korg (Akai) for this pedal and mournful of the loss of >functions I've come to expect from The Way of the Delay Pedal. I don't >know if the Line 6 box will bring back the era of the true delay looper >but you just might see a Headrush for sale on this list, shortly... > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" > (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < > \ * -- Krishnamurti > - > - keepnews@node.net - < >----------------------------------------------------------------- And if you do choose to dump the 'rush, I might just buy it up (if I can't get it cheaper direct from Akai). Final thoughts:To me, sampling, looping and "long echoing" are all part of the same process - audio recording and playback. The interest is in what happens between the original audio event and it's subsequent regurgitation. I see (hear?) a continuum between slapback rockabilly echo, Pink Floyd space loops, Pauline Oliveros/Steve Reich tape loops, Les Paul doing his acetate overdubs, Fripp's 'tronics, Public Enemy's jams, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 14:36:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25955; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:36:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:36:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01e001bee813$fa2e17e0$3a2310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "legion" , Subject: Re: Phasers on Stun Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:15:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"6NQOt3.0.Td5.tP5kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >Of course the king of new pedal phasers (espcially for recording) is the >new MOOG phaser recently released by Bob Moog himself via his company >Big Briar. This is similar to the famous Moog 12 stage rack mount unit >in a high quality stomp with tons of CV ins, wildass LFO, resonance, >overdrive, etc etc. A bit pricy but certainly a few levels above any of >the other stomps out there and it rivals all those $$$ VINTAGE!! racks >(Roland SPH, etc at a fraction of the price they're going for these >days). > >http://www.bigbriar.com/12stagephaser.htm > Yes, the Moogerfooger is groovy to the max. It has a stereo output which provides the same signal in "anti-phase". I made a quick stereo recording with it splitting my loop jam, and in headphones it sounded like the sound was doing the breast stroke inside my head: sound dripping down the center of my brain, then flowing left and right in mirror image, flowing up the walls of my ears, then meeting in the center again. And you can plug an expression pedal into any of four jacks which override the knobs on the front. Studio quality sound. Fat, phat, and fab. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 14:55:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29154; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:55:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:55:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990816184533.60966.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.250.189.101] From: "K. G. Dick" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Phasers Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:45:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"M34uB1.0.nk6.2o5kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, I hear ya, you CAN get lost in the twiddlin'... however, I have also WRITTEN songs upon receipt of and foolin' with new gear, being so inspired by the sounds. Cuts both ways I guess. :o Best, K. G. Dick _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 15:13:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32313; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:13:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990816184508.33033.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.250.189.101] From: "K. G. Dick" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Phasers Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:45:08 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"3R0Zy.0.Ij6.fn5kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, I hear ya, you CAN get lost in the twiddlin'... however, I have also WRITTEN songs upon receipt of and foolin' with new gear, being so inspired by the sounds. Cuts both ways I guess. :o ) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 18:08:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27367; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:08:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:08:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:40:49 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Testing... please disregard. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id RAA23336 Resent-Message-ID: <"yTxq61.0.ti5.QM8kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure...Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure...Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure...Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure... Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure... Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure... Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 18:17:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28688; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:17:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:17:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908162150.RAA04113@mail.netaxs.com> From: "Don \"Mango\" Pancoe" To: Subject: pellet - new band Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:48:29 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"ht4EH1.0.E36.qU8kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com okay, this may be a little topic since our band does not AS YET utilize any looping - just give me a little more time for that - but you all seem like a musically adventurous bunch, so check out... http://www.homestead.com/pellet -- mango -- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 18:23:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29581; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:23:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:23:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <7bb67379.24e9e3e0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:00:00 EDT Subject: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"p1vxn1.0.eO6.Me8kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just an idea but as far as i know memory chips have a pin which takes the function of 'write enable', unless the correct pulse arrives at this pin the contents of the memory cannot change. ...and thus by stopping the pulse you have frozen the sounds ... making infinite repeats. I've seen a circuit that uses this method (from the seventies though). It used a logic chip to interupt the pulse. perhaps you could just connect a resistor to hold the pin at the required logic level. So... can anyone reveal which chips are used in the Headrush so I can examine the possibility? Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 18:56:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01865; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:56:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:56:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005101bee837$25e40b60$09964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] DEHLI Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:31:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"9n5BZ.0.dM7.u_8kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com An excellent instrument maker is located immediately in the heart of downtown New Delhi. His name is Rikhi Ram and he's located at 8 Marina Arcade, Connaught Circus, telephone # 332-7685. He's considered one of the top four or five sitar makers in India, and his instruments are very pricey, even by Indian standards. He also makes very nice tanpuras, and even some unusual hybrid instruments (non-gourd, non-standard bass tanpuras that sound GREAT, as well as things like tanpura/swarmandal [zither] combinations). But his instruments are EXPENSIVE. If you can afford one of his sitars, also pick up a fiberglass case for it -- he's one of the few people who make them. It's costly (as much as his sitars) and weighs a ton but you'll be glad when your instrument comes home in one piece. Another, less expensive shop for musical instruments is called Lahore Music House in the neighborhood called Darya Ganj. They have good quality instruments (though not "name" brands like Rikhi Ram, Radhakrishna Sharma, Hiren Roy, etc.) at reasonable prices. Ask a rickshaw-driver to take you to Darya Ganj, then ask people there for more specific directions. (Addresses in India can be maddening) I'd avoid the musical instrument store on Janpath (just off of Connaught Circus) in the block of Tibetan shops. This guy carries all sorts of instruments -- real ones as well as tiny, non-playable "toy" instruments. He deals exclusively with tourists, so most of his instruments are poorly made for the tourist trade, more as "conversation pieces" than playable instruments. He'll also charge outrageous prices for them, since no one knows better. It might be worth stopping by, though, just to gauge what you might want to pay for a better-quality instrument. Although bargaining is the rule in India, some instrument shops won't haggle over prices. Rikhi Ram refuses to lower his prices for anyone, but he can get away with it since he's so well known. Unless you can judge how well an instrument is made, or are able to show that you can play it well, most people won't lower their prices substantially. (You'll see this same treatment of foreigners everywhere else you shop, too.) I don't mean to discourage you, but it may be difficult to find a teacher. You can ask for recommendations at the instrument shops, or even at the All India Radio offices (also on Janpath, towards the Parliament buildings and India Gate). However, many teachers will refuse to take short-term beginner students. I wouldn't expect to learn too much beyond the absolute basics unless you plan to stay for a long time. A fair price for music lessons would be about 60 to 100 rupees (approximately US $2.00 - $3.00) per lesson. I wouldn't advise trying to bargain over the cost of lessons -- this would be seen as an insult to the teacher. Another word of advice: if you plan to travel throughout India, make sure to hold off on buying your instrument until you are nearly ready to leave. Although it's fairly easy to get around (by train, by bus, etc.) you don't want to have to haul a fragile instrument around any more than absolutely necessary. If you plan to stay in one place for a long time, then shop around before you decide on an instrument. Also, if you're buying a sitar or sarod, don't worry about buying a huge supply of extra strings -- you'll be able to find better quality metal strings at home. DO make sure, though, to get some extra picks (the wire sitar plectrum is called "mizrab," the cocoanut shell sarod pick is called "jaba") as these will be very difficult to find outside India. Basically there are 2 classical music traditions in India -- the Hindustani (North Indian) and the Carnatic (South Indian). These are very different musical systems, though they share some common aspects. In Delhi you'll find the Hindustani music more prevalent. Within the Hindustani tradition, there are numerous "gharanas" or "schools" (localized traditions) of music. So you might find a vocal teacher from "the Agra gharana" or "the Jaipur gharana" or "the Patiala gharana." As a beginner, this will make very little difference to you. Check out the newsgroup rec.music.indian.classical for their FAQs, discussions, etc., but beware -- they can be a pretty nasty group overall. You're more likely to receive condescending and scornful replies than any useful information. Good luck with your trip, and good luck with your musical pursuits. Shubbh Yatra! ("auspicious journey") James Pokorny -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Mullen To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com ; 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 5:12 AM Subject: [OFF TOPIC] DEHLI >Hi, > >I'm wondering if anyone can help. I'm going to Dehli, India at the end of >September and I'm looking to find a couple of decent instrument shops AND >I'm also looking to get singing lessons over there (work on my >drone/tone/timbre). Does anyone have an idea of where I might start trying >to follow this up? > >Also - anyone got any info/URLs of the types of Indian singing that exist? >I'm afriad I'm a bit of a tourist in this regard. > >Any help appreciated > >Thanks >Anthony > > >> ---------- >> From: >> Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com[SMTP:Loopers-Delight-d-request@an >> nihilist.com] >> Reply To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >> Sent: 15 August 1999 08:41 >> To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com >> Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #330 >> >> <><> Brook/Gasparyan.>><><> Zoom 2100>><><> Stun>><><> Stun>><><> Stun>><><> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 18:58:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02206; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:58:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:58:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Godf852195@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:24:53 EDT Subject: Godflesh To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Resent-Message-ID: <"cJKO53.0.cL7.V_8kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello All!! Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! Xiclotl From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 19:16:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04896; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:16:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:16:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:38:48 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Testing... please disregard. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id SAA32261 Resent-Message-ID: <"crla31.0.Nu7.ED9kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure...Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure...Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure...Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure... Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure... Hello, hello... will this appear as it's supposed to in my mailer? I'm not so sure... how is it going to look? I'm still not sure... Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 19:58:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10343; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:58:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:58:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <86a632a1.24e9f717@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:21:59 EDT Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"6tScZ3.0.WP1._q9kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << and thus by stopping the pulse you have frozen the sounds making infinite repeats.>> I already get infinite repeats on my Headrushe(s) with feedback full on. So, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" ;-) Bill "hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 20:16:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12812; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:16:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:16:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B86A22.1557FDBA@magi.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:44:36 +0000 From: David Pattee X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Godflesh References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uZiKr.0.n72.R8Akt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm a big fan. Played it at work over the weekend (Love & Hate in Dub). It didn't go over very well. Great CD... dave Godf852195@aol.com wrote: > > Hello All!! > > Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and > Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. > So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! > > Xiclotl From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 20:41:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16461; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:41:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:41:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908170013.UAA17146@smtp5.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:20:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Godflesh From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"FOf9H1.0.Z23.8bAkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "streetcleaner" is an incrediable piece of work! ---------- >From: David Pattee >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Godflesh >Date: Mon, Aug 16, 1999, 3:44 PM > >I'm a big fan. Played it at work over the weekend (Love & Hate in Dub). It >didn't go over very well. > >Great CD... > >dave > >Godf852195@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hello All!! >> >> Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and >> Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. >> So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! >> >> Xiclotl > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 21:03:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19675; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:03:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:03:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B8AC93.1C94677B@minds-eye.org> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:28:03 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: DMC Ground Controller F/S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-WkUl1.0.pa3.EpAkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I have a Digital Music Corp. Midi Ground Controller for sale if anyone is interested. It has been upgraded to the newest software, version 2.4, and is in excellent condition with AC adapter and manual. I'm asking $150 and will pay shipping costs in the lower 48 of the US. Its a very nice controller, but I've discovered I'm spending more time messing with new gear than I am playing so its time to simplify. If anyone's interested contact me at kevin@minds-eye.org Thanks for your time Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 21:47:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA26166; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:47:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:47:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990816184508.33033.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:05:16 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Dangers of Dixieland Resent-Message-ID: <"PyIpf1.0.dy4.wMBkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com All right, flame me if you must. this is non loop related, not even gear related, but in case you play wiith any 'bone players beware.... > > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN FRONT OF HIM! By Randy > > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) > > Bocholt, Germany-A band musician died of a brain injury when the > > trombonist behind him jerked the slide of his trombone forward and > > struck the trumpeter in the back of the head! Police say the tragedy > > occured as the Gratzfeld College band was rehearsing the spirited > > American jazz classic, "When the Saints Go Marching In." According to > > other band members, trombonist Peter Niemeyer, 19, "got carried away" > > with the music. He started gyrating and thrashing around as he played. > > At one point, he jerked forward and the rounded metal slide on his > > instrument hit trumpet player Dolph Mohr, 20, dropping him instantly to > > the floor. "Niemeyer was pumping the slide very hard," said medical > > examiner Dr. Max Krause. "But it wasn't just the force of the blow that > > killed Mohr. "The slide struck him in the worst possible place-the > > vulnerable spot just behind and below the left ear. "Bone fragments > > pierced his brain, killing him instantly." The incident has provoked a > > storm of controversy over whether or not American jazz should be played > > in German colleges. "I believe the music is to blame," said Gratzfeld > > band director Heinrich Sommer. "I was pressured to play that selection > > by school administrators. But I've always said jazz is dangerous music, > > "Our musicians can't control themselves when they play it. They move and > > rock back and forth, creating chaos. If I had my way, American Dixieland > > would be outlawed in Germany. I've been directing bands for 30 years and > > I've never heard of anyone dying while playing a German march." > > back to all this serious gear muddle.... patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 22:06:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28922; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:06:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:06:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B8C115.86C8D1C1@toddreynolds.com> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:55:38 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vGBIn2.0.zk5.WiBkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 16 22:25:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA31958; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:25:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:25:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990816210016.007aed30@saluki-mail.siu.edu> X-Sender: fnord@saluki-mail.siu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:00:16 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: damon baker Subject: Re: Godflesh In-Reply-To: <199908170013.UAA17146@smtp5.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ZSE-Q3.0.zh6.H4Ckt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com l!! >>> >>> Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and >>> Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. >>> So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! the various remixes and such that ended up at the end of albums and at the bsides of singles are beautiful. what other stuff like that has Justin Broadrick done? i've really enjoyed the drone/noise/loop aspects of godflesh (i work as a DJ at an NPR station doing an ambient/"new age" type show, i played the remix of "don't bring me flowers" offa merciless and got a very postive response, just goes to show that people will often give something a fair shake if it's presented in the right context:) thanks damon baker fnord@siu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 00:07:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA12972; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:07:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:07:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000301bee810$6b1c7360$3a2310ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:37:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Freeq Resent-Message-ID: <"dNJNn1.0.F72.JVDkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > BTW can anyone tell me what the frequency response of the Headrush is >vs. the Boomerang? I'm too busy to jump over web sites and dig up owners >manuals, etc. I believe that, of all the devices under discussion recently, these two actually represent the extremes. The Headrush is 20 kHz bandwidth and the 'Rang is, as I recall, about 8 kHz. 'Rang users? If this is a matter of concern, let me reiterate that the Headrush is sweet in that respect. Also should note that CNPT@aol.com dropped me a message that the current Sam Ash flyer lists the Zoom 2100 at $99--go for it, guys! Price apparently good through Saturday. And not to neglect this context, the 2100 ought to be about 13-14 kHz.... David Myers From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 00:33:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19577; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:33:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:33:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:02:12 EDT Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"e4YdR2.0.w23.xxDkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks pat................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 01:39:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA27112; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:39:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:39:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ejunk@earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000301bee810$6b1c7360$3a2310ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:53:23 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Freeq Resent-Message-ID: <"kPR0h3.0.yE5.ObEkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:37 PM -0800 8/16/99, David Myers wrote: >> BTW can anyone tell me what the frequency response of the Headrush is >>vs. the Boomerang? I'm too busy to jump over web sites and dig up owners >>manuals, etc. > >I believe that, of all the devices under discussion recently, these two >actually represent the extremes. The Headrush is 20 kHz bandwidth and the >'Rang is, as I recall, about 8 kHz. 'Rang users? If this is a matter of >concern, let me reiterate that the Headrush is sweet in that respect. > >Also should note that CNPT@aol.com dropped me a message that the current >Sam Ash flyer lists the Zoom 2100 at $99--go for it, guys! Price >apparently good through Saturday. And not to neglect this context, the >2100 ought to be about 13-14 kHz.... > >David Myers Musicians Friend also has the Zoom 2100 on sale now for $99. I believe if you order items through their website, as opposed to calling, they'll knock off an additional 5% on your order. I think I'll get one! Eric From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 02:19:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA32701; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:19:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:19:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990816235943.007ccc70@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:59:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Godflesh In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"GZmIy1.0.hc5.0nEkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yep. There's a fan here. Long time. And, even though I'm a bit daunted by some of it, I do like the new recording. Jeff McLeod Montgomery, AL At 06:24 PM 8/16/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Hello All!! > >Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and >Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. >So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! > >Xiclotl > > __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 02:47:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA05066; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:47:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:47:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908161900.PAA29942@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:10:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: sweet memories Resent-Message-ID: <"cI5sd1.0.At7.tuFkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone else remember this?: >All the right executive decisions have apparently been made in Gibson land, >and production is just starting up again. They expect to have Echoplexes >available again in August. This time, they expect to have enough quantity >to more than meet demand, and get this: they plan on drastically cutting >the price! Anyone been bugging them lately? MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 05:26:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA20342; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:26:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:26:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990817085045.22494.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Freeq To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"eX9UH2.0.wM4.eAIkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I checked the MF web site & the price for the Zoom 2100 is shown as $149.00. Did you see this in a catalog? John --- ejunk@earthlink.net wrote: > At 8:37 PM -0800 8/16/99, David Myers wrote: > >> BTW can anyone tell me what the frequency > response of the Headrush is > >>vs. the Boomerang? I'm too busy to jump over web > sites and dig up owners > >>manuals, etc. > > > >I believe that, of all the devices under discussion > recently, these two > >actually represent the extremes. The Headrush is > 20 kHz bandwidth and the > >'Rang is, as I recall, about 8 kHz. 'Rang users? > If this is a matter of > >concern, let me reiterate that the Headrush is > sweet in that respect. > > > >Also should note that CNPT@aol.com dropped me a > message that the current > >Sam Ash flyer lists the Zoom 2100 at $99--go for > it, guys! Price > >apparently good through Saturday. And not to > neglect this context, the > >2100 ought to be about 13-14 kHz.... > > > >David Myers > > Musicians Friend also has the Zoom 2100 on sale now > for $99. I believe if > you order items through their website, as opposed > to calling, they'll > knock off an additional 5% on your order. I think > I'll get one! > > Eric > > > === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 05:13:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA19442; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:13:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:13:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <11924a5b.24ea70e0@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:01:36 EDT Subject: looping software(OS) question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"OiVor.0.OW3.zRHkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com in my persuit of a way to best run looping(and other)audio software on my laptop(as an instrument, a P133, 32MB)i came across BeOS from what i read on the web page its the way to go for audio is anybody using BeOS? can windows programs run on it(audio mulch particularly)? any other OSs good for realtime audio stuff? rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 09:07:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09400; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:07:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:07:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <6f3141b4.24eab271@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:41:21 EDT Subject: Re: MPX-G2, FireworX...and Pluggo! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, wedgehed@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"3EehU.0.xW1.QZLkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/15/99 2:48:53 AM, wedgehed@yahoo.com writes: >Does the G2 limit you as to the number of times an >effect can be used within a preset? I seem to recall >reading reviews on both the G2 & the T.C.E. Fireworx >that indicated that you could only have one delay per >preset. Howdy, John, et al; The G2 allows only one delay per preset. But, besides Chorus, Delay, Reverb, and the analog gain section, there's two "Effect" blocks, which both have the same collection of algorithms, with the exception that block 1 also has some pitch algos. Any of the shared algos (panning, volume, filters, phaser, comp, a few digital distortions, univybe, eqs...) could be selected twice, assuming you've got processing power still available. But not delay, unfortunately. The FireworX is a different story. Certain algos CAN be inserted twice, including the Synth, Delay, Panner, and Chorus/Flanger. You can even insert up to 3 dynamic blocks. Perhaps you're thinking of the G-Force, which only allows one each of it's 8 block types? The advantage it has, tho, is that you can always use all eight block if you want, so you never get "out of power" messages...something that happens all too frequently with the other two. The tc stuff also has the most wonderful interface and extensive mod options of any processors I've seen...and they've recently released a VST app. for the Mac called Spark, which duplicates the block grid from the FireworX/G-F in software. Any VST plug-ins, up to 20, can be patched and linked the same way as blocks in their harware processors. I'm salivating over using this set-up with Cycling '74's Pluggo collection of 74 wacko VST processors to create a virtual super-FireworX for under $500...WAY too much cool stuff around these days! David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 09:16:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10853; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:16:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:16:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:55:51 EDT Subject: Re: rack vs. floor multi-FX To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"fk-Zm1.0.R-1.9mLkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/16/99 12:47:13 PM, mbiffle@svg.com writes: >Get the GT-5 or GT-3... I've finally heard the POD sounds, and while >they're certainly >nice... the COSM Boss stuff sounds just as good to me. I'd say the >initial presets for >amp-like sounds are better on the POD, but once you've learned to >tweak the COSM >stuff, you're in exactly the same department AND have a built in >floor controller with >great control of tons of effects as well. > Absolutely agree...I love the GT-5. The only serious advantage I can see in the -3, besides price, is that they've improved the access to groups via single footswitch presses on it, so you don't have to add a 2nd foot controller as Miko has to have quick access to more than one bunch of 5 (or 4 on the -3) patches. Otherwise, the deep editing power of the -5 is preferrable, I'd say. Re: the Pod, I have to say I think it raises the bar for accurate simulations of real amp tones, over the Roland stuff, fine as it is. But it sure ain't a multi-fx, so it can't compare as a means of creating and controlling unique sounds. dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 09:58:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA17248; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:58:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:58:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Godflesh In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990816210016.007aed30@saluki-mail.siu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"mZ-692.0.9o3.gWMkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com for you godflesh fans out there you might want to check out Skullflower, they seem to be into a darker, drone, loop sound without all the guteral grunt/singing that godflesh does. On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, damon baker wrote: [.l!! [.>>> [.>>> Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and [.>>> Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. [.>>> So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! [. [. [.the various remixes and such that ended up at the end of albums and at the [.bsides of singles are beautiful. what other stuff like that has Justin [.Broadrick done? i've really enjoyed the drone/noise/loop aspects of [.godflesh (i work as a DJ at an NPR station doing an ambient/"new age" type [.show, i played the remix of "don't bring me flowers" offa merciless and got [.a very postive response, just goes to show that people will often give [.something a fair shake if it's presented in the right context:) thanks [. [.damon baker [.fnord@siu.edu [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 10:35:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23145; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:35:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:35:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007801bee8bb$e72a4cb0$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Eventide GTR4000 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:22:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"J7Oca3.0.s95.f0Nkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well.. How about this GTR4000, from the Eventide series of DSP4000 family processors? It has an add-on module for looping/sampling up to 187seconds (mono) or something close to that. Stock it can do 5-6 seconds without any mods. (It even has a mode "FuzzFrippertronics and just Frippertronics" which loop using a delay module set with the feedback up around 90%) Has anyone used one of these for live performances? I read the few reviews H.C. had on it and it seems people like it, once they get used to the complexity.. Any other thoughts? Thanks again! Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 11:13:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30039; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:13:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:13:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BEE89F.DE8ED7E0.andy@harmonixmusic.com> From: andy@harmonixmusic.com (Andy Mcgraw) To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: looping gig, boston Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:01:33 -0400 Organization: Harmonix Music Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4128 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZrPtv.0.vl6.HbNkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This Thursday the 19th at 8 pm the looping duo CATOVEN (www.catoven.com) will be playing at the tiny ZeitGeist gallery just outside of Central Square, Cambridge. 312 Broadway. The music is heavily rhythmic looped (using 2 echoplex pro) improvisations/grooves. Our site has several mp3s to preview. Try to make it if you're in the area. Andy McGraw: set, marimba, samples, percussion, gamelan instruments, turntables, tabla etc. Shahzad Ismaily: bass, guitar, moogs, casio keyboards, vocals, baby pianos etc. Thanks Andy McGraw Harmonix Music Systems, Inc. Cambridge, MA www.harmonixmusic.com 617.491.6144 ext. 105 andy@harmonixmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 11:31:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01372; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:31:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:31:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:16:39 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"5FL6G2.0.Xg7.2sNkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ever feel like tossing your stuff in the garbage? I was at a music store yesterday trying out some gear and there was this 14 year old kid playing a $600 Yamaha synth and I nearly passed out he was so good. He was making stuff up that sounded like it came off of a damn vintage 1970s T. Dream or Eno album. He eventually got tired of his little brother making horrid noise on some other synth so he took off with brother in tow, but amazing - this guy could have been a genius if he'd been heard 20 years ago. It was still amazing as it is today. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 11:32:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAB01616; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:32:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:32:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:34:01 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Chain tape? Huh? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"qDQQQ2.0.Qg7.2sNkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wait a minute. Chain tape? What miniatures chain tape? Do tell?!?! Can I get involved? Can I make aluminum locusts for all of you? What the heck is going on with me? Whoa, I see a spire with a loci on top. So tell! Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 11:35:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02263; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:35:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:35:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:51:28 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Loopy behavior Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"xmD813.0.Hg7.1sNkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The other week I was playing with my old Korg Poly 61 (instead of my usual guitar frenzied mania) and I was running it into my Vortex into my little integrated amp and speakers. I was actually playing odd chords using the arpeggiator and then using the tap tempo on the Vortex to make twice as many notes and also was using a sort of Leslie-esque patch on the result. My wife yelled from upstairs: Wife: "Who's that group?" Me: Huh? Wife: Who is that anyway? What CD are you listening to? Me: Um, it's not a CD, it's me. Wife: Do that more often. Heh. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 12:27:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12352; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:27:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:27:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908171534.IAA20340@scv4.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:34:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"IIsH_2.0.9W.j4Okt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in 1966. TH ---------- >From: Todd Madson >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 8:16 AM > > I was at a music store yesterday trying out some gear and there was this > 14 year old kid playing a $600 Yamaha synth and I nearly passed out he was > so good. He was making stuff up that sounded like it came off of a damn > vintage 1970s T. Dream or Eno album. He eventually got tired of his > little brother making horrid noise on some other synth so he took off > with brother in tow, but amazing - this guy could have been a genius if > he'd been heard 20 years ago. It was still amazing as it is today. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 12:28:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12572; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:28:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:28:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:02:46 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Chain tape? Huh? Resent-Message-ID: <"oZhYy.0.s72.aWOkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello gang and hello Todd! I've sent this to you as well as the entire 75 second miniatures crew. Would it be possible for us to just place Todd at the end of the mail route so he can contribute? If not... Todd there are numerous other projects being staged by the Chain Tape mongers. 8-> I'm hoping each project, as it begins, will be announced to the Loopers Delight list at large so new contributors can become involved. We announced the 75 sec on the list didn't we? best to all and eagerly awaiting my shot at the big 75! -Miko >>> Todd Madson 08/17 8:31 AM >>> Wait a minute. Chain tape? What miniatures chain tape? Do tell?!?! Can I get involved? Can I make aluminum locusts for all of you? What the heck is going on with me? Whoa, I see a spire with a loci on top. So tell! Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 12:25:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12114; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:25:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:25:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ejunk@earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990817085045.22494.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:55:07 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Freeq Resent-Message-ID: <"rUCbY3.0.zL1.lHOkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com John, Yes, the catalog came in yesterday's mail. On the cover it says "Red Tag Sale Meltdown." The 2100 is item #5181909J and it has been marked down from $149.99 to $99.99 (page 58). Eric Hausmann At 12:50 AM -0800 8/17/99, John Tidwell wrote: >I checked the MF web site & the price for the Zoom >2100 is shown as $149.00. Did you see this in a >catalog? > >John > >--- ejunk@earthlink.net wrote: >> At 8:37 PM -0800 8/16/99, David Myers wrote: >> >> BTW can anyone tell me what the frequency >> response of the Headrush is >> >>vs. the Boomerang? I'm too busy to jump over web >> sites and dig up owners >> >>manuals, etc. >> > >> >I believe that, of all the devices under discussion >> recently, these two >> >actually represent the extremes. The Headrush is >> 20 kHz bandwidth and the >> >'Rang is, as I recall, about 8 kHz. 'Rang users? >> If this is a matter of >> >concern, let me reiterate that the Headrush is >> sweet in that respect. >> > >> >Also should note that CNPT@aol.com dropped me a >> message that the current >> >Sam Ash flyer lists the Zoom 2100 at $99--go for >> it, guys! Price >> >apparently good through Saturday. And not to >> neglect this context, the >> >2100 ought to be about 13-14 kHz.... >> > >> >David Myers >> >> Musicians Friend also has the Zoom 2100 on sale now >> for $99. I believe if >> you order items through their website, as opposed >> to calling, they'll >> knock off an additional 5% on your order. I think >> I'll get one! >> >> Eric >> >> >> > > >=== >John Tidwell > > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 13:13:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19895; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:13:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:13:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <6d221b73.24eaebe8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:46:32 EDT Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"CwBzv.0.hn3.k8Pkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 08/17/1999 11:27:28 AM Central Daylight Time, hartne.t@apple.com writes: << It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in 1966. >> And less meaningful, too. I struggle to sound like me, but there are all these other things that keep popping up in my cereal. I think maybe I'll isolate from my influencesa little more in order to become even more original... k From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 13:33:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26880; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:33:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:33:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5780@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:19:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"q11Gq.0.4q2.xmOkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com addendum to this . . . > > > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN FRONT OF HIM! By Randy > > > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) > > The incident has provoked a > > > storm of controversy over whether or not American jazz should be > played > > > in German colleges. "I believe the music is to blame," said Gratzfeld > > > band director Heinrich Sommer. "I was pressured to play that selection > > > by school administrators. But I've always said jazz is dangerous > music, > > > "Our musicians can't control themselves when they play it. They move > and > > > rock back and forth, creating chaos. If I had my way, American > Dixieland > > > would be outlawed in Germany. I've been directing bands for 30 years > and > > > I've never heard of anyone dying while playing a German march." > > > > > this reminded me of something else i received not so long ago. DANCE BAND RULES AND REGULATIONS DURING THE 3RD REICH An actual set of rules from Germany, unfortunately this is not a joke! 1) in the repertoire of light orchestras and dance bands, pieces in fox-trot rhythm (so-called swing) are not to exceed 20%; 2) in the repertoire of this so-called jazz type, preference is to be given to compositions in a major key and to lyrics expressing joy in life ("Kraft durch Freude"), rather than Jewishly gloomy lyrics; 3) as to the tempo, too, preference is to be given to brisk compositions as opposed to slow ones (so-called blues); however, the pace must not exceed a certain degree of allegro commensurate with the Aryan sense for discipline and moderation. On no account will negroid excesses in tempo (so-called hot jazz) be permitted, or in solo performances (so-called breaks); 4) so-called jazz compositions may contain at the most 10% syncopation; the remainder must form a natural legato movement devoid of hysterical rhythmic references characteristic of the music of the barbarian races and conducive to dark instincts alien to the German people (so-called "riffs"); 5) strictly forbidden is the use of instruments alien to the German spirit (e.g. so-called cowbells, flex-a-tone, brushes,etc.) as well as all mutes which turn the noble sound of brass-wind instruments into a Jewish-Freemasonic yell (so-called wa-wa, in hat, etc.); 6) prohibited are so-called drum breaks longer than half a bar in four quarter beat (except in stylized military marches); 7) the double bass must be played solely with the bow in so-called jazz compositions; plucking of strings is prohibited, since it is damaging to the instrument and detrimental to Aryan musicality. If a so-called pizzicato effect is absolutely desirable for the character of the composition, let strict care be taken lest the string is allowed to patter on the sordine, which is henceforth forbidden; 8) provocative rising to one's feet during solo performance is forbidden; 9) musicians are likewise forbidden to make vocal improvisations (so-called scat); and 10) all light orchestras and dance bands are advised to restrict the use of saxophones of all keys and to substitute for them violon-celli, violas, or possibly a suitable folk instrument. Signed, Baldur von Blodheim Reichsmusicfuhrer und Oberscharfuhrer SS stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 13:38:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28037; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:38:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:38:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B9AAC3.92BF80B4@toddreynolds.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:33:03 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: returning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AR2Ne1.0.8J6.WkPkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey folks, especially andre. todd reynolds back from a year off the list. though i did not previously contribute that much before, quite possibly i'll be back with a vengeance now. i'm looping my ass off, and making a new record, violin only. still in the process of throwing stuff up against the wall, looking for an echoplex. just working with a jamman at this point. looking to recover major events of the past year. andre, haven't talked with you since seeing you at the reich concert. best to all, and looking forward to more looping madness. todd -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 13:38:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27972; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:38:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:38:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <012401bee8d4$0a28a820$252a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: , Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:11:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Yy-wP.0.D15.7YPkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Hawkeye255@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 7:21 PM Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? ><< and thus by stopping the pulse you have frozen the sounds making infinite >repeats.>> > >I already get infinite repeats on my Headrushe(s) with feedback full on. So, >"if it ain't broke, don't fix it!" ;-) > >Bill "hawkeye" > Keep that sucker on for more than a half-hour and you'll hear a drop in volume. Keep it on for twelve-to-twentyfour and it'll disappear. I tried it. Not that I'm looping for the public at such intervals; their attention spans have dropped markedly since the introduction of the printed word, don't you think? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 14:28:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15436; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:28:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:28:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005a01bee8d9$ee8392a0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <199908171534.IAA20340@scv4.apple.com> Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:57:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"dosVY1.0.1k7.Z7Qkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, it is easier to sound like Hendrix. It's also true, though, that there are some 14-year-olds out there who have more talent than many of us will ever live to develop. This could in part be why no one makes a worse music critic than another musician. Meow! Let me break it down. It's called jealousy, baby. Tossing trumpet into the Tiber, Timothy ----- Original Message ----- From: Travis Hartnett To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 10:34 AM Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in 1966. > > TH > > ---------- > >From: Todd Madson > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 8:16 AM > > > > > I was at a music store yesterday trying out some gear and there was this > > 14 year old kid playing a $600 Yamaha synth and I nearly passed out he was > > so good. He was making stuff up that sounded like it came off of a damn > > vintage 1970s T. Dream or Eno album. He eventually got tired of his > > little brother making horrid noise on some other synth so he took off > > with brother in tow, but amazing - this guy could have been a genius if > > he'd been heard 20 years ago. It was still amazing as it is today. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 14:54:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02769; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:54:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:54:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990817110824.01524e50@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:08:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: re: 1 space mixer In-Reply-To: <6f3141b4.24eab271@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9uxPX1.0.ob.SHQkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com About a week or two ago someone posted about 1 space rack mixers. This msg is for them. Saw this today at r.m.m.m. Inquiries to afflack@home.com or face public humiliation at the hands of Travis. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NO.SPAMkafflack@home.com Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.marketplace Subject: FS: Roland M-120 rack mixer Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:49:03 GMT Price: $200 Roland M-120 rack mixer in mint condition. Studio use only. Great as an onstage keyboard mixer or studio submixer. 12 channel inputs with vol/pan/2 fx sends. 2 fx returns and 1/4" and XLR outs/ headphone out with vol. Very quiet, very clean. $200 +shipping & cod. Kevin Afflack From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 15:10:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06218; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:10:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:10:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5786@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:38:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"rC0fD3.0.d7.voQkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com another possible angle on this. there are people who have more "natural talent" than others - - and do nothing with it. and there are others who have to work their asses off to try and make something - - and succeed. i'm sure that we have all known people like this. stig > Yes, it is easier to sound like Hendrix. It's also true, though, that > there > are some 14-year-olds out there who have more talent than many of us will > ever > live to develop. This could in part be why no one makes a worse music > critic > than another musician. > > Meow! > > Let me break it down. It's called jealousy, baby. > > Tossing trumpet into the Tiber, > Timothy > > > > > It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in > 1966. > > > > TH > > > > > I was at a music store yesterday trying out some gear and there was > this > > > 14 year old kid playing a $600 Yamaha synth and I nearly passed out he > was > > > so good. He was making stuff up that sounded like it came off of a > damn > > > vintage 1970s T. Dream or Eno album. He eventually got tired of his > > > little brother making horrid noise on some other synth so he took off > > > with brother in tow, but amazing - this guy could have been a genius > if > > > he'd been heard 20 years ago. It was still amazing as it is today. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 15:45:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15604; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:45:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:45:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <7319b49a.24eb0c33@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:04:19 EDT Subject: Re: Eventide GTR4000 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac sub 85 Resent-Message-ID: <"DMEQm1.0.hD1.u9Rkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/17/99 3:35:28 PM, you wrote: <> I've got one without the sampler, and it's a monster, in both senses of the word: sounds incredible, requires wrestling. Just tweaking parameters is easy, but creating new patches is a challenge. It's also annoying that for such an expensive piece, you have to keep buying expensive add-ons to get it to do what you want: The hardware sampler (which apparently also can function as the same amount of delay memory) is a pretty logical, if large, extra expense, but having to buy a data card to get more than around 20 slots for user saves, or a $400 preset card to access new features (the Alchemy collection---definitely worth it for looping) is a burn. But, there's almost nothing you couldn't get this beast to do sampling- or delay-wise, given the time and the programming savvy. Plus, it's damn cool right outta the box, and it can go WAY beyond looping----WHILE it's looping! dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 15:54:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18310; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:54:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:54:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908171925.PAA14869@smtp3.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:32:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Loopy behavior From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4Mflm2.0.aS2.4TRkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com haha. my wife has said similar things. ---------- >From: Todd Madson >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Loopy behavior >Date: Mon, Aug 16, 1999, 1:51 AM > >The other week I was playing with my old Korg Poly 61 (instead of my usual >guitar frenzied mania) and I was running it into my Vortex into my little >integrated amp and speakers. > >I was actually playing odd chords using the arpeggiator and then using >the tap tempo on the Vortex to make twice as many notes and also was >using a sort of Leslie-esque patch on the result. > >My wife yelled from upstairs: > >Wife: "Who's that group?" >Me: Huh? >Wife: Who is that anyway? What CD are you listening to? >Me: Um, it's not a CD, it's me. >Wife: Do that more often. > >Heh. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 16:51:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03581; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:51:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:51:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <85BCD9C8C4F1D211977300A02461F590010F5F7C@tceis2.indy.tce.com> From: Hoover Alan To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:36:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"v-ncz.0.NI3.ndRkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Clearly, the maker of the trombone should be sued. All trombones should be banned. Incrementally, of course, after first banning assault trombones, and after creating laws where background checks are to be made of the individuals who apply to purchase them. -----Original Message----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. [mailto:LiebigSA@Maritz.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 11:20 AM To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland addendum to this . . . > > > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN FRONT OF HIM! By Randy > > > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) > > The incident has provoked a > > > storm of controversy over whether or not American jazz should be > played > > > in German colleges. "I believe the music is to blame," said Gratzfeld > > > band director Heinrich Sommer. "I was pressured to play that selection > > > by school administrators. But I've always said jazz is dangerous > music, > > > "Our musicians can't control themselves when they play it. They move > and > > > rock back and forth, creating chaos. If I had my way, American > Dixieland > > > would be outlawed in Germany. I've been directing bands for 30 years > and > > > I've never heard of anyone dying while playing a German march." > > > > > this reminded me of something else i received not so long ago. DANCE BAND RULES AND REGULATIONS DURING THE 3RD REICH An actual set of rules from Germany, unfortunately this is not a joke! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 16:56:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05058; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:56:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:56:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B9E9CE.A1C06226@gte.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:01:35 -0700 From: nitesh patel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: subscribe References: <37B8C115.86C8D1C1@toddreynolds.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NV9Me1.0.Oy4.a-Rkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com please remove me from list Todd Reynolds wrote: > -- > Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and > die happy" - henry miller > 500B Grand St. 11G > New York, NY 10002 > > 212 475-8559 phone > 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. > > todd@toddreynolds.com > http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 17:37:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15633; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:37:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:37:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990817205547.17334.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tiit Kikas Subject: Tiit To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"sPVp13.0.831.vmSkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Ryan! Could you please explane more about it - "It has rack scratches, a cracked LCD panel" Thanks, Tiit Kikas _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 18:00:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22264; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:00:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:00:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B9CDA6.4159993D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:01:32 -0400 From: Michael Haumesser Reply-To: notnoise@ix.netcom.com Organization: notnoise studio X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? References: <199908171534.IAA20340@scv4.apple.com> <005a01bee8d9$ee8392a0$02585858@timspc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"07lHC2.0.tF1.3oSkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think it's the amount of information available and the ease of access to it. I'm 41 and when I was a kid it was hard to find information about what was what. You couldn't read a article in a music mag and have someone divulge the secrets of how they got this sound or that. I remember listening to the early "electronic" sounds and having to guess and invent possible explanations. My favorite is when I heard the guitar on lagrima by phil Manzanera which had this long prominent preverb and I was sure he must have learned the whole piece backwards and played it into the tape to get that sucking sound. Allot of this lead to interesting inventions as I'm sure it still does but allot of time within days of a CD coming out you got the engineer breaking down the whole process step by step in print. And then there's the equipment itself. I spent allot of hour trying to process my old farfisa to sound like Eno or Tangerine Dream and splicing real tape loops or making them out of modified cassettes to have something I could perform with. Don't get me wrong I'm jealous. the only benefit I've had from my timing is when this guy walked up to me at a gig and asked me how much I paid for my "vintage" Small Stone phaser and I told him I bought it for $19.95. He said "no way! where!" and I told him at Guitar Center then waited for a second while he tried to comprehend my luck till I added it was 1979 and they were on sale. Remember the shitty new stuff you buy today is the "vintage" find of tomorrow. american qabalah wrote: > Yes, it is easier to sound like Hendrix. It's also true, though, that there > are some 14-year-olds out there who have more talent than many of us will ever > live to develop. This could in part be why no one makes a worse music critic > than another musician. > > Meow! > > Let me break it down. It's called jealousy, baby. > > Tossing trumpet into the Tiber, > Timothy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Travis Hartnett > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > > > It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in 1966. > > > > TH > > > > ---------- > > >From: Todd Madson > > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > >Subject: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > > >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 8:16 AM > > > > > > > > I was at a music store yesterday trying out some gear and there was this > > > 14 year old kid playing a $600 Yamaha synth and I nearly passed out he was > > > so good. He was making stuff up that sounded like it came off of a damn > > > vintage 1970s T. Dream or Eno album. He eventually got tired of his > > > little brother making horrid noise on some other synth so he took off > > > with brother in tow, but amazing - this guy could have been a genius if > > > he'd been heard 20 years ago. It was still amazing as it is today. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 18:02:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22918; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:02:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:02:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001001bee8f4$a912d300$b7964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:08:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"SsHwO3.0.8e1.itSkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I used to play the trombone . . . . . but I let it slide ;-} James -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Smith To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, August 16, 1999 9:59 PM Subject: Dangers of Dixieland >All right, flame me if you must. this is non loop related, not even gear >related, but in case you play wiith any 'bone players beware.... > >> > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN FRONT OF HIM! By Randy >> > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) >> > Bocholt, Germany-A band musician died of a brain injury when the >> > trombonist behind him jerked the slide of his trombone forward and >> > struck the trumpeter in the back of the head! Police say the tragedy >> > occured as the Gratzfeld College band was rehearsing the spirited >> > American jazz classic, "When the Saints Go Marching In." According to >> > other band members, trombonist Peter Niemeyer, 19, "got carried away" >> > with the music. He started gyrating and thrashing around as he played. >> > At one point, he jerked forward and the rounded metal slide on his >> > instrument hit trumpet player Dolph Mohr, 20, dropping him instantly to >> > the floor. "Niemeyer was pumping the slide very hard," said medical >> > examiner Dr. Max Krause. "But it wasn't just the force of the blow that >> > killed Mohr. "The slide struck him in the worst possible place-the >> > vulnerable spot just behind and below the left ear. "Bone fragments >> > pierced his brain, killing him instantly." The incident has provoked a >> > storm of controversy over whether or not American jazz should be played >> > in German colleges. "I believe the music is to blame," said Gratzfeld >> > band director Heinrich Sommer. "I was pressured to play that selection >> > by school administrators. But I've always said jazz is dangerous music, >> > "Our musicians can't control themselves when they play it. They move and >> > rock back and forth, creating chaos. If I had my way, American Dixieland >> > would be outlawed in Germany. I've been directing bands for 30 years and >> > I've never heard of anyone dying while playing a German march." >> > > >back to all this serious gear muddle.... > >patrick > Fingerpaint's New Release: > > IN THE LOOP > > ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and > obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. > > DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 > > http://www.fingerpaint.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 18:02:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22963; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:02:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:02:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Godf852195@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:03:25 EDT Subject: Re: Godflesh To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Resent-Message-ID: <"eapNl2.0.ui1.JvSkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com go to www.cyberealm.com/~godflesh for all your Godflesh info needs. Xiclotl From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 18:07:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23847; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:07:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:07:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Todd Madson'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:10:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"D7BxG3.0.hL2.V2Tkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Happens all the time. makes me wonder why i bother sometimes... -----Original Message----- From: Todd Madson [mailto:crash@waste.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 9:17 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Ever feel like tossing your stuff in the garbage? I was at a music store yesterday trying out some gear and there was this 14 year old kid playing a $600 Yamaha synth and I nearly passed out he was so good. He was making stuff up that sounded like it came off of a damn vintage 1970s T. Dream or Eno album. He eventually got tired of his little brother making horrid noise on some other synth so he took off with brother in tow, but amazing - this guy could have been a genius if he'd been heard 20 years ago. It was still amazing as it is today. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 19:02:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00929; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:02:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:02:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:48:13 EDT Subject: Re: Loopy behavior To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"E1j_r1.0.Cc4.1ZTkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com <> When that happens to me (which is not as often as I would like, I confess), I know I'm onto something. When you can catch the ear of someone who is (1st) used to listening to your mangling and looping or more accurately used to tuning out the aforementioned activities and (2nd) and who will go so far as to inquire about the good groove (or whatever); that's the time to makes notes, try variations, because you're THERE, that's what looping can do, can be. Of course you already know that. Ain't it great! BTW: I only occassionally create live sequences and loop over them (as per an earlier discussion). Like you, I usually use an arpeggio to start with. My Prophecy has an ok arpeggiator that is programmable, but my JP-8000 has a much more sophisticated one. Sometimes I get two different arpeggios going (one on the Korg and a very different one, in a very different time signature, going on the Roland) and use my sequencer to control the tempo only, which I move all over the place during the piece with the 'speed dial' . The polyrhythms that emerge can be mesmerizing. Then I add musically related loops and finally solo over all that with vocals and/or classic guitar, bass guitar, digerridoo, harmonica, accordian, washboard, kazoo...anything. Finally, I try to 'keep what works and roundfile the rest" with the pertinent details written down in my little notebook. It's that notebook that helps me decide, roughly, my 'program' for each set. EXAMPLE (from my notebook): [ SJI ] K...#3 R...perc #3 T44. which translates... {Saint James Infirmary Blues, Korg Prophecy arpeggio pattern #3, Roland JP-8000 arpeggio Percussion #3, Start Tempo=44 bpm.} I don't have any particular sounds chosen until I'm ready to 'take down the lights and start the show." But of course I have several favorites. Finally, my mixer is just as important as any other piece of gear, since I fade arpeggios and loops in and out during each number. The loops, combined with changing tempos, different instruments fading in and out and solos that are never the same twice, are what make each number a one-of-a-kind event and just as much an adventure for me as for the audience. The moment I get it all figured out, down to a science, the nitty gritty, the knat's ass, the final bottom line; I'll give away my gear, find a suitable large tree, assume the Lotus position under it and gradually fade away... looping: OMMMM! Bill "Hawkeye" ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 19:28:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06126; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:28:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:28:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <79b5e0ec.24eb388b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:13:31 EDT Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"e2FW1.0.y96.bxTkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Shit Happens." Bill "Hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 19:33:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07158; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:33:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:33:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:17:00 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, notnoise@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Resent-Message-ID: <"ymbfb3.0.lR6.g_Tkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Michael Haumesser wrote... > Remember the shitty new stuff you buy today is the "vintage" find of tomorrow. I'm with you on that one Michael! This following kind of thing just kills me... It was just mentioned to me, by a very tone and vintage conscious person, that certain people are now going back to buying new Strat pickups (of the 60's and 70's style) because when Hendrix recorded, it was with new pickups on fairly new guitars... I don't think I'll be moving back to the crappy 6 screw tremolo setups on old Strats anytime soon. Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 19:39:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08848; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:39:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:39:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990817182634.007a1270@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:26:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? In-Reply-To: <012401bee8d4$0a28a820$252a10ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"57A1Y2.0.9P6.k-Tkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I left mine going for about an hour and a half last night, running non-synchronously with a short loop from my Korg SDD-1000 and a longer minidisc loop (20 secs or so) of some gamelan samples. (Guitar & bass in the Headrush, synth in the Korg loop) I was enjoying the way the parts kept going in and out of phase, and noticed that the timbre of the Headrush loop had definitely changed over time. The volume seemed to be the same, but some of the frequencies were more pronounced, so much so that it sounded like a new part had been introduced somewhere along the line. Tim At 01:11 PM 8/17/99 -0400, you wrote: >Keep that sucker on for more than a half-hour and you'll hear a drop in >volume. Keep it on for twelve-to-twentyfour and it'll disappear. I tried it. >Not that I'm looping for the public at such intervals; their attention spans >have dropped markedly since the introduction of the printed word, don't you >think? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 20:16:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14870; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:16:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:16:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B76410.3EF5816E@choice.net> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:06:24 -0400 From: Steve Ball X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loopy behavior References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vzuLX2.0.iF1.qxUkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sounds like my kind of sound, Tod. Need more info though. What were your parameter settings on the Vortex (echo/feedback values, etc.) that generated the doubled notes? Was the "Leslie-esque patch" from the Poly 61 or the Vortex? I especially like the positive feedback values from the wife. Instant gratification. Steve Cincinnati, OH Todd Madson wrote: > The other week I was playing with my old Korg Poly 61 (instead of my usual > guitar frenzied mania) and I was running it into my Vortex into my little > integrated amp and speakers. > > I was actually playing odd chords using the arpeggiator and then using > the tap tempo on the Vortex to make twice as many notes and also was > using a sort of Leslie-esque patch on the result. > > My wife yelled from upstairs: > > Wife: "Who's that group?" > Me: Huh? > Wife: Who is that anyway? What CD are you listening to? > Me: Um, it's not a CD, it's me. > Wife: Do that more often. > > Heh. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 21:32:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA28992; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:32:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:32:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <14832395.24eb5b5f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:42:07 EDT Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"oy4c32.0.kn4.h6Wkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/17/99 3:27:23 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, hartne.t@apple.com writes: << It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in 1966. >> travis.......what does this mean?..................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 21:54:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00800; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:54:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:54:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001a01bee918$0b340cc0$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5786@migarexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:20:16 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"SAf4F2.0.4K6.JeWkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We artists can be a real catty bunch, especially in the presence of talent, especially in the presence of real young talent. Kudos to Mr. Madson. Tossing Tuba into the Tigris, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 1:38 PM Subject: RE: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > another possible angle on this. there are people who have more "natural > talent" than others - - and do nothing with it. and there are others who > have to work their asses off to try and make something - - and succeed. i'm > sure that we have all known people like this. > > stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 22:17:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA04820; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:17:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:17:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908180131.VAA26781@smtp3.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:38:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4t1L83.0.o27.0qWkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it's alot easier to chew with teeth and to wipe your ass when you have hands. ---------- >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 8:42 PM > >In a message dated 8/17/99 3:27:23 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, >hartne.t@apple.com writes: > ><< It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in >1966. >> > >travis.......what does this mean?..................michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 22:58:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12914; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:58:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:58:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:09:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <14832395.24eb5b5f@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"m-qtN3.0.5t.WNXkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in 1966. >> >>> travis......what does this mean?...........michael I've heard that given today's agricultural advances and technological hybrids, marijuana is almost 500% more potent than it used to be, maybe that has something to do with it. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 22:58:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12953; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:58:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:58:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA167C.FDF34DD8@magelang.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:12:12 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Eventide GTR4000 References: <007801bee8bb$e72a4cb0$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3_oOq3.0.7p.JMXkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you're getting into that price range, and you're a delay fanatic, you should probably consider a Kyma system. Even a base system comes with 9 minutes of delay time, and you could easily get a couple dozen delays out of it. Jim Ken M wrote: > > Well.. How about this GTR4000, from the Eventide series of > DSP4000 family processors? It has an add-on module for > looping/sampling up to 187seconds (mono) or something close > to that. Stock it can do 5-6 seconds without any mods. (It > even has a mode "FuzzFrippertronics and just Frippertronics" > which loop using a delay module set with the feedback up > around 90%) > > Has anyone used one of these for live performances? > > I read the few reviews H.C. had on it and it seems people > like it, once they get used to the complexity.. Any other thoughts? > > Thanks again! > > Ken From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 23:41:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA20909; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:41:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:41:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908180248.WAA28763@smtp3.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:54:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hrAYc2.0.Ca2.-xXkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yes i know that comment made no sense just as the rest of the comments in regards to jimi hendrix did not either. ---------- >From: "Christopher White" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 9:38 PM > >it's alot easier to chew with teeth and to wipe your ass when you have >hands. >---------- >>From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? >>Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 8:42 PM >> > >>In a message dated 8/17/99 3:27:23 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, >>hartne.t@apple.com writes: >> >><< It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in >>1966. >> >> >>travis.......what does this mean?..................michael >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 17 23:59:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23842; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:59:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:59:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:27:28 EDT Subject: Re: Freeq To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"h3sj_1.0.ZZ4.EXYkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-17 00:07:16 EDT, you write: << I believe that, of all the devices under discussion recently, these two actually represent the extremes. The Headrush is 20 kHz bandwidth and the 'Rang is, as I recall, about 8 kHz. 'Rang users? If this is a matter of concern, let me reiterate that the Headrush is sweet in that respect. >> Not sure in terms of bandwidth, but those look like sampling rates to me. I use the Rang, as a lower-fi companion to my Jam Man. The Boomer does 16kHz at high speed, or 8kHz sampling at slow speed. The slow rate is reminiscent of the grainy texture of the treasured EH 16 sec. delay. Great for guitar or long-distance texturizing. But those seeking glassy pure tones should consider other devices. eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 00:14:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25707; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:14:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:14:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA2D30.24A4324@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:49:04 +1000 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? References: <199908180131.VAA26781@smtp3.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DZQzL3.0.GM5.EqYkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Christopher White wrote: > > it's alot easier to chew with teeth and to wipe your ass when you have > hands. > ---------- right now i'm pulling the exact same head Spinal Tap's manager did when Fran Drescher's character goes "money talks and bullshit walks" wow.. snipping the context makes this a fairly surreal e-mail to be looking at right now... need... sleep.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 00:30:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31255; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:30:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:30:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: phv@san.rr.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990817234247.007f7820@pop-server.san.rr.com> X-Sender: phv@pop-server.san.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:42:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? In-Reply-To: <199908172100.RAA05827@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"59_gV2.0.bL5.3qYkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This reminds me of the time the Yamaha DJX (a $300 keyboard with a ribbon controller, arpeggiator, drum patterns, etc.) first came out. I spotted it while hanging around inside a Navy Exchange and started walking towards it. However, a little girl (I'm guessing 9-11 years old) beat me to it. After less than a minute of fooling with the controls, she was stirring up some phat beats. The kid had talent, whoever she was. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 01:43:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10063; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:43:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:43:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <8f260c1e.24eb9425@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:44:21 EDT Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"3y8mP3.0.BP.NfZkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << ... I was enjoying the way the parts kept going in and out of phase, and noticed that the timbre of the Headrush loop had definitely changed over time. The volume seemed to be the same, but some of the frequencies were more pronounced, so much so that it sounded like a new part had been introduced somewhere along the line. >> Did you have hi-damp on at all? I usually set it completely off. But the sounds definitely change with it on. Fun hunh? ;-) Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 01:43:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA10062; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:43:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:43:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <75e3b386.24eb9584@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:50:12 EDT Subject: Re: Freeq To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"le2Ok2.0.7Z.okZkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com << ...The Boomer does 16kHz at high speed, or 8kHz sampling at slow speed... >> The Headrush samples @ 44.1 kHz. Hawkeye (or is that 41.4 kHz?!?--it's midnight of a very lonnnnng day.) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 02:15:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14893; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:15:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:15:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA4792.7EB1B281@sfsu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:41:39 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? References: <199908180248.WAA28763@smtp3.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RpENw3.0.6O2.NUakt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I kind of understood that to mean that once Jimi Hendryx created his own sound, more people were able to imitate the Hendryx sound because they now knew what they liked to hear. Music magazines and effect manufacturers also try to make it easier to imitate by creating sounds-like-Jimi pedals and publishing musicians' effect chains and chord progressions. Christopher White wrote: > yes i know that comment made no sense just as the rest of the comments in > regards to jimi hendrix did not either. > ---------- > >From: "Christopher White" > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 9:38 PM > > > > >it's alot easier to chew with teeth and to wipe your ass when you have > >hands. > >---------- > >>From: Nemoguitt@aol.com > >>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >>Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? > >>Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 8:42 PM > >> > > > >>In a message dated 8/17/99 3:27:23 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, > >>hartne.t@apple.com writes: > >> > >><< It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in > >>1966. >> > >> > >>travis.......what does this mean?..................michael > >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 02:15:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14890; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:15:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:15:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA4206.D15E391E@sfsu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:17:58 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland References: <85BCD9C8C4F1D211977300A02461F590010F5F7C@tceis2.indy.tce.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"UsGQp3.0.JW1.z7akt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com They should make soft trombones. They'd be made out of Nerf material. They wouldn't make sound very well, but they'd certainly be very fun, and very safe. Hoover Alan wrote: > Clearly, the maker of the trombone should be sued. All trombones should be > banned. Incrementally, of course, after first banning assault trombones, > and after creating laws where background checks are to be made of the > individuals who apply to purchase them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Liebig, Steuart A. [mailto:LiebigSA@Maritz.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 11:20 AM > To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' > Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland > > addendum to this . . . > > > > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN FRONT OF HIM! By Randy > > > > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) > > > > The incident has provoked a > > > > storm of controversy over whether or not American jazz should be > > played > > > > in German colleges. "I believe the music is to blame," said Gratzfeld > > > > band director Heinrich Sommer. "I was pressured to play that selection > > > > by school administrators. But I've always said jazz is dangerous > > music, > > > > "Our musicians can't control themselves when they play it. They move > > and > > > > rock back and forth, creating chaos. If I had my way, American > > Dixieland > > > > would be outlawed in Germany. I've been directing bands for 30 years > > and > > > > I've never heard of anyone dying while playing a German march." > > > > > > > > > this reminded me of something else i received not so long ago. > > DANCE BAND RULES AND REGULATIONS DURING THE 3RD REICH > > An actual set of rules from Germany, unfortunately this is not a joke! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 02:24:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA16113; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:24:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:24:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA458B.2DE16754@sfsu.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:32:59 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9tnbJ3.0.i02.qMakt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have an EH Micro Synth, a Deluxe Memory Man, 2 regular Memory Men, a Space Drum (disco synth drum sound), a Panic Button, and a Big Muff. I got them all as hand me downs from my dad. They used to be my "secret sound tools" until Electro Harmonix had to go and start reissuing the stuff! Now I spend my time looking for analog drum machines and cheesy old keyboards. When I played bass, I'd practice and practice until I'd go to the music store and find kids who naturally had what it took me years to even think about. I guess that's part of what led me to start experimenting with objects and found sounds--that gave me an edge that the kids didn't have. Eventually I gave up trying to be good at playing instruments. Where did that lead me? Now I meet people who are great instrumentalists and are also great with objects and found sounds. I guess we'll never win. matt Mike Biffle wrote: > Michael Haumesser wrote... > > Remember the shitty new stuff you buy today is the "vintage" find > of tomorrow. > > I'm with you on that one Michael! This following kind of thing just > kills me... > > It was just mentioned to me, by a very tone and vintage conscious > person, that certain people are now going back to buying new Strat > pickups (of the 60's and 70's style) because when Hendrix recorded, it > was with new pickups on fairly new guitars... > > I don't think I'll be moving back to the crappy 6 screw tremolo setups > on old Strats anytime soon. > > Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." > mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 03:46:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30654; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:46:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:46:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA6D8F.309C6668@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:23:44 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: being original... References: <199908172055.QAA04358@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_tzPE1.0.xm6.Zzbkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com being original... don't i wish that !!! I remember an interview of Mick Karn in bass player where he stated he had never bought a CD and that while at work for an album, he would move in a foreign place, to be isolated (even no relative..) a bit drastic but when you listen to the man, obviously (for him at least) it works! Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 03:46:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA30658; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:46:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:46:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: StudioAxe@aol.com Message-ID: <99a217d4.24ebb406@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:00:22 EDT Subject: FS: Oberheim Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 72 Resent-Message-ID: <"vuxN83.0.Yn5.2fbkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FS: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro w/foot controller. Ver. 5.0, full 16 MB memory. Mint cond. w/ manual and orig. boxes. Please give it a good home. Reasonable offers please. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 04:01:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA00501; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:01:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:01:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BA66A7.3355F245@in2win.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:54:15 +0200 From: mark Organization: in2win Interactive Learning Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: FS: Oberheim Echoplex References: <99a217d4.24ebb406@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark.francombe@in2win.com Resent-Message-ID: <"kpPKC2.0.yj7.aQckt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 400 bucks perchance? plus shipping to Norway? MArk StudioAxe@aol.com wrote: > > FS: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro w/foot controller. Ver. 5.0, full 16 MB > memory. Mint cond. w/ manual and orig. boxes. Please give it a good home. > Reasonable offers please. -- \ -\ --\ ---\ ----\ -----\ ------\ -------\ --------\ ---------\ ----------\ -----------\ ------------\ mark-red-----\ --------------\ ---------------\ work------------\ -----------------\ in2win------------\ -------------------\ multimedia-designer-\ ovre-slottsgate-5----\ 0157-oslo-------------\ tlf.--22-40-29-94------\ fax--22-42-14-24--------\ e-mail--mark@in2win.com--\ web--http-//www.in2win.com\ ---------------------------\ ----------------------------\ personal---------------------\ tlf.-22-43-10-79--------------\ mob.-98-66-14-56---------------\ mark@8day.com-------------------\ christine@8day.com---------------\ ----------------------------------\ -----------------------------------\ redweb------------------------------\ http-//www.8day.com/redweb-----------\ --------------------------------------\ ---------------------------------------\ icq-4531031-----------------------------\ -----------------------------------------\ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 05:18:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA09750; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:18:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:18:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: spat@visi.com Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990818090507.00699664@pop.visi.com> X-Sender: spat@pop.visi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:05:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland Resent-Message-ID: <"dP8vM2.0.c-1.DUdkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >DANCE BAND RULES AND REGULATIONS DURING THE 3RD REICH > >An actual set of rules from Germany, unfortunately this is not a joke! > >1) in the repertoire of light orchestras and dance bands, pieces in >fox-trot rhythm (so-called swing) are not to exceed 20%, > lotzmore nazistic sillyarbitrary aryan rand muzik rules> Is this Hitler's Oblique Strategies deck? Loopsteve From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 06:26:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA17636; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:26:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:26:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990818062945.007a5100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:29:45 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? In-Reply-To: <8f260c1e.24eb9425@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Zdz9y3.0.nA4.rZekt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No, this was in "Looping Rec" mode. The HF damp position is irrelevant, since it only operates in "Tape Echo" and "Normal Delay" modes (and was fully counterclockwise anyway...) It seemed like a gradual shift in the upper-midrange emphasis; it probably wouldn't have been noticeable at all under normal conditions because it was SO gradual. Tim At 12:44 AM 8/18/99 EDT, you wrote: ><< ... I was enjoying the way the parts kept going in and out of phase, and >noticed that the timbre of the Headrush loop had definitely changed over >time. The volume seemed to be the same, but some of the frequencies were more >pronounced, so much so that it sounded like a new part had been introduced >somewhere along the line. >> > >Did you have hi-damp on at all? I usually set it completely off. But the >sounds definitely change with it on. Fun hunh? ;-) > >Hawkeye > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 06:38:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19071; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:38:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:38:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990818063317.007a5100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:33:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland In-Reply-To: <37BA4206.D15E391E@sfsu.edu> References: <85BCD9C8C4F1D211977300A02461F590010F5F7C@tceis2.indy.tce.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"CNh2o.0.iE4.3dekt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The obvious answer is immediate orchestral helmet-law legislation... Tim At 10:17 PM >Hoover Alan wrote: > >> Clearly, the maker of the trombone should be sued. All trombones should be >> banned. Incrementally, of course, after first banning assault trombones, >> and after creating laws where background checks are to be made of the >> individuals who apply to purchase them. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 08:25:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31548; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:25:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:25:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:12:19 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: More ruminations Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"2lt2d3.0.UG7.9Dgkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Steve Ball (I believe) asked what patch I was using on the Vortex at the time. I think it was a modified Choir B so all of the swirly leslie-like stuff that usually is quiet in the background and is delayed several seconds after the dry signal goes through is amped way up in the foreground and then I used the tap tempo to produce (I believe) two (or was it three) notes for every note generated on the keyboard. Fun But, I put down a hundred bucks on a Yamaha CS1X synth that I fell in love with (it sounded good even unprocessed) that a local store was selling on clearance. Can't wait to take it home so I can mutate the sounds. Part of my problem is that I'm a screaming rock/fusion guitarist who also loves drifty ambience. I call the original stuff I do "free form dance fusion." Back to swirly, ambient, drifty textures: I also used this technique to create big ambient textures using a drum machine. That song that some of you tried to download (it's at http://www.waste.org/~crash/asb.html) called aliensporebomb... I'm on the verge of putting a realaudio or .wav sample in addition to the .mp3 you already heard (some of you didn't, I'm not real sure why it won't work on some mp3 players). All the swirly background stuff that sounds like Leslie-synth and piano is just heavily effected bass coming from a drum machine that is sequenced in a particular way. Well, I use a Roland R-5 drum machine to create big background textures. The machine came with a demo song with all kinds of instruments on it. Everyone (even the local roland rep) told me you couldn't write songs like that, though. They were wrong. I'm probably going to create a R-5 homepage since it can do stuff the manufacturer probably isn't aware of. The R5 has three bass samples (acoustic, slap and electric bass), and I just make a copy of a sample and tune it up an octave or two. Then I send that pitch-shifted sample to it's own output, and use the drum machines' pads to create melodic motifs and record it into an empty pattern. Then, I take the actual sample and edit the attack, decay, sustain and release so it will work appropriately with the delays and other stuff in the vortex. I usually let it sustain for a while. You can tune the stuff way up high or make it go down very low in pitch. Then I add conventional drums to that and add one of the other basses to that. So, I can literally have drums, bass, rhythm synths and lead synths (the picked bass up two octaves playing melodies) all done from one machine. At the time I had no other synths so I learned the machine inside and out. I even figured out how to make it send MIDI note on's to an external $100 casio I had so I had yet another melody on top of that. The Casio's stereo line out, of course, has to go through yet another processor to make it sound good. Usually, I end up taxing the machine's polyphony. It only really allows for 12 voices at once but because the delays in the Vortex let the sound carry over, you never really hear that too much (most notably on the cymbals). So, it's crazy but it works. For those of you who can't listen to the mp3 there I'll encode a realaudio track and/or a little wave excerpt so you can hear what I'm talking about. I'm also planning on adding some insane loop mp3s to the looping and delay page at my site since I haven't added anything there in far too long. I've rambled too much. -Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 08:51:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03364; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:51:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:51:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:40:57 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Vintage... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"pFpxs3.0.8P.9egkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hmmmm.... I used to have an E-H Zipper Envelope follower. I regret selling it at a garage sale for $20. I was stupid. I still have an original issue MXR Blue Box that I bought for $16 at my local music store. I was told last year that New York studio musicians were paying $300 for the things. I also have a TC Electronic Booster Line Driver. I've had lots of offers for it and always wondered why until I found out that one of these boxes is actually just like a channel in a certain high-end mixing console. Engineers use them as mic preamps by plugging a mic into the XLR in on a load unbalancer, then plugging that into the XLR on the BLD, then they take the line out from the BLD and re-balance that going into the mixer or tape recorder. It's really quiet and is more suitable for goosing the front end of a tube device - it's distortion is kind of anemic, so the boost mode is what most people want it for. Oh, and also I have a Boss pedal DD3 delay. That's a fun looping device. I use that one a lot on synth leads in conjunction with an Ibanez Swell Flanger a friend loaned me. -T From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 10:27:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19045; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:27:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:27:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990818101603.007bedc0@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:16:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: Vintage... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"mWu4X1.0.H74.n0ikt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yeah, i love telling people i paid $10 for my original issue tube screamer and $15 each for an original big muff and small stone. those were the days... m At 07:40 AM 8/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hmmmm.... > >I used to have an E-H Zipper Envelope follower. I regret selling it >at a garage sale for $20. I was stupid. ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 11:10:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30242; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:10:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:10:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:02:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Freeq Resent-Message-ID: <"FyJla.0.-b6.Wdikt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Eric, I'm talking bandwidth, not sampling rates. Maybe an engineer here can remind me of the formula, but audio bandwidth is something like slightly-less-than-half the sampling frequency. If the Boomerang samples at 16k and 8k, your audio will be around 7k/3.5k, suitable for looping ukelele in my book. Be sure to use one of those thick felt picks. David Myers > I believe that, of all the devices under discussion recently, these two > actually represent the extremes. The Headrush is 20 kHz bandwidth and the > 'Rang is, as I recall, about 8 kHz. 'Rang users? If this is a matter of > concern, let me reiterate that the Headrush is sweet in that respect. > >> > >Not sure in terms of bandwidth, but those look like sampling rates to me. I >use the Rang, as a lower-fi companion to my Jam Man. The Boomer does 16kHz at >high speed, or 8kHz sampling at slow speed. The slow rate is reminiscent of >the grainy texture of the treasured EH 16 sec. delay. Great for guitar or >long-distance texturizing. But those seeking glassy pure tones should >consider other devices. > >eric p >echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 11:11:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31050; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:11:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:11:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908181433.HAA10823@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:33:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sYsiV.0.gE6.7Xikt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com When Jimi Hendrix, for instance, emerged into the public consciousness he brought a new vocabulary to the instrument, and to music in general. No-one had thought to put all those techniques together before. Thirty years later there are a million guitarists who can do a quite credible imitation of Jimi--his approach has become part of the common musical vocabulary. The first guy to the top of Everest has it much harder than all the guys who then follow his path. Likewise, faking seventies Tangerine Dream twenty years later isn't that difficult. You've got a well-drawn road map at this point. TH ---------- >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? >Date: Tue, Aug 17, 1999, 7:42 PM > > << It's a lot easier to sound like, say, Jimi Hendrix now than it was in > 1966. >> > > travis.......what does this mean?..................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 11:35:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05201; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:35:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:35:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <010c01bee98b$ef7794b0$b205010a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:11:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"lVjm52.0.-Z7.Jqikt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >And less meaningful, too. I struggle to sound like me, but there are all >these other things that keep popping up in my cereal. I think maybe I'll >isolate from my influencesa little more in order to become even more >original... Beethoven refused to listen to Mozart because he said it would destroy his creativity... K From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 12:06:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14015; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:06:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:06:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BAE59C.96C4087D@toddreynolds.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:56:00 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: FS: Oberheim Echoplex References: <99a217d4.24ebb406@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZRCJ51.0.oJ2.ePjkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What offers are out there currently? just joined the list last nite... StudioAxe@aol.com wrote: > FS: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro w/foot controller. Ver. 5.0, full 16 MB > memory. Mint cond. w/ manual and orig. boxes. Please give it a good home. > Reasonable offers please. -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 12:26:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19610; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:26:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:26:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <7045740a.24ec336a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:03:54 EDT Subject: Re: Vintage... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"rxl5w3.0.hM3.kcjkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 08/18/1999 9:28:04 AM Central Daylight Time, murkie@panther.middlebury.edu writes: << yeah, i love telling people i paid $10 for my original issue tube screamer and $15 each for an original big muff and small stone. those were the days... >> Reminds me of when I bought my ProCo Rat when I was in college, 1983 or 4, Denton, Texas. And then I remembered, for some reason, that in a class on electronic composition (which meant we got to use the Synclavier, basically), I hooked up the output of the Synclavier to the Rat. Using an FM algorithm containing some serious aliasing, it sounded pretty sick, like Tuvan throat singing, or maybe throat-puking. There's a case of using our well-drawn road map (as hartnett called it) to go to hell. What was I thinking? wwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeoooooooooeeeeeeeeooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggg gggggggggggggggggggggg k From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 12:47:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25312; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:47:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:47:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BADC20.32A08B2A@cvtci.com.ar> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:15:29 -0300 From: Patricio Murphy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: es,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Introduction & questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iDJ6B2.0.zR4.Zrjkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I'm new to the list, and have a couple of questions. I'm a working musician, currently playing mainly acoustic guitar after getting pissed off by my Digitech's PMC10 MIDI footcontroller going dead and a few more gear episodes... :-( But right now I have a tour ahead that decided me to both get an electric again and get some real-time control of my fx, and get some looping capabilities for when I play solo as well. So here are my questions: 1- What's the sturdiest and more reliable MIDI footcontroller on the market? I mean one that lets me send any MIDI message over any MIDI channel, not single channel devices. The only one I've seen down here is Roland's FC200, which I understand is discontinued. 2- Would it be wiser to invest in something like a Boss GT-5? I've read its sounds are great, and it has great control capabilities also, is it true? 3- How does the Lexicon JamMan rate in terms of reliability? I can get it second hand quite cheap down here. 4- Am I missing something? Maybe there's a multiFX that has built-in looping capabilities, or another pedalboard option (I know Digitech RP20, but since my bad experience with the PMC10 and their product support, I'll pass Digitech this time), or something... Thanks for any reply Best regards, Patricio Murphy Buenos Aires, Argentina murphy@cvtci.com.ar From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 12:55:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27771; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:55:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:55:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990818162156.5203.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.251.193.213] From: "K. G. Dick" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:21:56 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"J3jdL1.0.ZV4.Gtjkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Whoa Stig, that is an OUTSTANDING piece of historical trivia (or perhaps "significa?")! Thank you for the reminder that the madness is never THAT far removed. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 13:06:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30424; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:06:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:06:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01de01bee999$960dafa0$592310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Liebig, Steuart A." , Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:27:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"wG7mB3.0.sF6.4Gkkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Two concerns: 1) The authenticity of any story in the Weekly World News, which regularly reports on sightings of Jesus' face in cyclones, births of thirty-pound babies to ninety-pound mommies, folks who cure their headaches with a 14p nail to the skull, etc. 2) The authenticity of the Nazi dance band rules. Probably authentic, but what's the source? It would be easy to make such things up, particularly if you've done a few too many wedding gigs under the fist of a repressive band leader. > addendum to this . . . >> > > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN FRONT OF HIM! By Randy >> > > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) > this reminded me of something else i received not so long ago. > > >DANCE BAND RULES AND REGULATIONS DURING THE 3RD REICH > >An actual set of rules from Germany, unfortunately this is not a joke! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 13:51:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09332; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:51:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:51:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Loopbozo@aol.com Message-ID: <221a9b01.24ec4607@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:23:19 EDT Subject: Re: Freeq To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 11 Resent-Message-ID: <"o5rOz3.0.vd.pmkkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I happened to see the Thick Felt Picks ,and the ukulele and autoharp duet on their version of Freebird is not to be missed.....:^) Still looking to sell my EH-16 sec. delay to someone who doesn't need me to send it to Germany so they can try it out for a couple of weeks to see if they like it.Any and all real offers will be considered, all others will serve as personal amusement only. Bryan Helm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 15:00:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26735; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:00:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:00:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990818140632.007c49a0@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:06:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: Vintage... In-Reply-To: <7045740a.24ec336a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ToAzD2.0.al3.gWlkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:03 PM 8/18/99 EDT, you wrote: >I hooked up the output of the Synclavier to the Rat. this is the most wonderful thing i've read on this list in a long time! m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 18:43:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19012; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:43:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:43:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Greyseason@aol.com Message-ID: <63f381aa.24ec870d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:00:45 EDT Subject: Re: Godflesh To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Resent-Message-ID: <"g2B873.0.0C2.rqokt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Recently a fellow told me to check out their "Songs Of Love And Hate" album since it is filled with Leonard Cohen references in a very hard metal context and I am a big fan of Leonard Cohen. I have not yet checked out this Godflesh album, but I do have designs on buying it. Is there any more someone can tell me about it? Sam Pateson it went: Subj: Godflesh Date: 8/16/99 10:58:48 PM !!!First Boot!!! From: Godf852195@aol.com Reply-to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Hello All!! Any Godflesh fans out there? I'm just sitting here listening to "Love and Hate In Dub" and thinking about Justin K Broadrick's "Final" side project. So, if you are a fan SPEAK UP!! Xiclotl From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 19:15:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26664; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:15:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:15:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908182240.SAA22784@ligarius-fe0.ultra.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:36:35 -0400 Subject: Lexicon MPX G2+MPX R1 anyone? From: "sandro" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LTQ4g3.0.mX4.-Ppkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello folks, i'm in the process of buying a Lexicon MPX G2 with footcontroller MPX R1. the best price i got is from speir music @$1345[$995+$350]. If someone else on the list is interested maybe we can get a better price....... sandro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 20:57:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17318; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:57:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:57:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908190007.UAA19314@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:13:22 -0400 Subject: TRADES From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sYWaD1.0.CZ1.Ahqkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi kids, i have 2 electro harmoinx pedals i can trade for a minidisc recorder 1.memory man 2.envelope filter let's work something out love christopher white please reply directly to me and not to the list thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 20:56:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17209; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:56:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:56:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Godf852195@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:45:36 EDT Subject: Re: Godflesh To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Resent-Message-ID: <"BRfyf3.0.KR.BNqkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Go to www.cyberealm.com/~godflesh for all the info you'll need. Here's some quick stuff SoLaH: is their first album with a "live" drummer, Brian "Brain" Mantia who's played with the Limbomaniacs, Primus, Buckethead, Bill Laswell (who hasn't), and many more. This album explores some hip-hop/funk rhythms and has a slightly more organic feel to it. The best songs, IMHO, are Hunter, Circle of Shit, Wake, and Sterile Prophet. As far as Leonard Cohen influences I only know of three: 1)One their first album GF had a song entitled "Avalanche Master Song" while on LC's SoLaH he has a song entitled "Master Song" 2) On the album "Pure" the lyrics "your pain is no credential here/it's just a shadow of my wound" from LC's "Avalanche" is in the song "Mothra" and 3) The title of "Songs of Love and Hate" is the same as LC's. Xiclotl From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 22:42:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09782; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:42:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:42:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <76ee6200.24ecbdad@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:53:49 EDT Subject: Re: Ever feel like throwing your stuff in the garbage? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"GX-nj.0.FT7.SFskt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-18 02:25:03 EDT, you write: << Now I meet people who are great instrumentalists and are also great with objects and found sounds. I guess we'll never win. matt >> ...and methinks I'm behind you, too. I had to pay $$$ for my Micro Synth before the reissue came out. So there! eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 18 22:59:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA13187; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:59:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:59:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:20:02 EDT Subject: Re: Freeq To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"iZ1Bv2.0.Q31.zdskt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-18 11:10:30 EDT, you write: You must be right...I usually know better, but perhaps it's the evolution of my taste in loopers JamMAn (pretty hi-fi) Rang (med. & lo-fi), a recent re-deployment of my DEluxe Memory Man (lo-fi analog)... my latest rediscovery - the Big Jam analog Delay (Pluto and back).... still seeking the EH 2-sec lo-fi delay... I must have been speaking from my unconscious desire for the ultimate lo-fi 8kHz digital looper, what could that one be? eric p echo park << Eric, I'm talking bandwidth, not sampling rates. Maybe an engineer here can remind me of the formula, but audio bandwidth is something like slightly-less-than-half the sampling frequency. If the Boomerang samples at 16k and 8k, your audio will be around 7k/3.5k, suitable for looping ukelele in my book. Be sure to use one of those thick felt picks. David Myers >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 01:27:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA15094; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:27:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:27:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990819045007.7712.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"0fgbo1.0.tt1.mqukt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I remember seeing an interview with a musician who was in Nazi occupied Holland. His description of the rules was very similar. In particular, I recall him saying that "swaying" was strictly forbidden. If there is any justice, Hitler, Stalin, & "Il Duce" are in hell listening to rap music at this very moment. Mao is serving drinks. John --- "K. Douglas Baldwin" wrote: > Two concerns: > 1) The authenticity of any story in the Weekly > World News, which > regularly reports on sightings of Jesus' face in > cyclones, births of > thirty-pound babies to ninety-pound mommies, folks > who cure their headaches > with a 14p nail to the skull, etc. > 2) The authenticity of the Nazi dance band > rules. Probably authentic, > but what's the source? It would be easy to make such > things up, particularly > if you've done a few too many wedding gigs under the > fist of a repressive > band leader. > > > > > addendum to this . . . > >> > > MAN SLIDES HIS TROMBONE & KILLS MUSICIAN IN > FRONT OF HIM! By Randy > >> > > Jeffries/Weekly World News (January 23, 1996) > > this reminded me of something else i received not > so long ago. > > > > > >DANCE BAND RULES AND REGULATIONS DURING THE 3RD > REICH > > > >An actual set of rules from Germany, unfortunately > this is not a joke! > > > > > > === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 04:10:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA18904; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:10:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:10:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990819074757.17984.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:47:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephane Delrieu Subject: Re: Lexicon MPX G2+MPX R1 anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"V5ad72.0.vq3.IUxkt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --- sandro wrote: > hello folks, > i'm in the process of buying a Lexicon MPX G2 with > footcontroller MPX R1. > the best price i got is from speir music > @$1345[$995+$350]. > If someone else on the list is interested maybe we > can get a better > price....... > sandro > > Woaaa, It's soooooo cheap, here in France, the best price i found is 13500FF (for MPX-G2+MPX-R1) = 2130us$ !!! === Stephane DELRIEU sdelrieu@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 05:31:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA00994; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:31:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:31:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990819085402.14895.rocketmail@web122.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Patch Bay Tip! To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"WUrlm.0.Qa6.NOykt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I came across this while reviewing the archives of another list. It's so obvious that I never would have thought of it. If you are using a BALANCED patch bay and find yourself running short of patch points for that one last piece of equipment that you want to squeeze in, use insert cables to make the connections. For example, you could plug the mono plugs into the L&R outputs of your effects processor & plug the TRS connector into the patch bay. You then break the signals out by using another insert cable to complete the routing. You just have to know which signal is going to tip & which is going to sleeve. I wouldn't want to do this more than a couple of times, just to avoid confusion. Patch bays are hard enough to label as it is. John === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 09:25:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12831; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:25:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:25:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:28:13 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Carter To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Dangers of Dixieland / Talent In-Reply-To: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB5780@migarexch01.maritz.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"fytDz2.0.BG.4Z_kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think the real responsibility here lies with the trombone manufacturers, who should take a tip from car design, and produce trombone slides which crumple on impact. Thus absorbing the energy and minimising the risk to bystander and tromboner alike. Whilst I agree that technology makes it easier to sound like XYZ than it was when XYZ were worth listening to I still go totally green with envy when I meet someone with natural talent (and lots of it). A friend of mine, left handed guitarist playing a right handed guitar upside down (not re-strung, just upside down) was showing me a simple riff. When I made the excuse that I couldn't follow what he was playing because the guitar was upside down he simply turned the guitar over and played it again right-handed. Oh, I hated that. Jim Carter e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 09:54:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19261; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:54:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:54:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BC03A1.56BA9644@spnz.org> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:16:17 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: ADA Pitchtraq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AsdIr2.0.3n2.rF0lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone used/use one of these? Opinions? Got a manual i could photocopy? I have a line on one for cheap, but i'm not sure if i want to invest in it or get a more modern (but maybe less musical) harmonizer from Digitech or somesuch. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 10:53:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32675; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:53:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:53:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:04:07 EDT Subject: Re: ADA Pitchtraq To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"rndpi2.0.2J5.3y0lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com isn't the pitchraq kind of limited in the intervals it will harmonize? =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 11:16:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07478; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:16:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:16:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <34a06ecd.24ed6b9f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:15:59 EDT Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland / Talent To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"XHE7O3.0.Sx5.H71lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I << A friend of mine, left handed guitarist playing a right handed guitar upside down (not re-strung, just upside down) was showing me a simple riff. When I made the excuse that I couldn't follow what he was playing because the guitar was upside down he simply turned the guitar over and played it again right-handed. Oh, I hated that. >> That is, I imagine, what you might call "being familiar with your instrument." Thanks, Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 11:24:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09698; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:24:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:24:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:58:15 EDT Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland / Talent To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"OKIc91.0.SQ.gk1lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/19/99 12:25:43 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, Jim.Carter@bristol.ac.uk writes: << When I made the excuse that I couldn't follow what he was playing because the guitar was upside down he simply turned the guitar over and played it again right-handed. >> ouch!.................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 11:44:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16877; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:44:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:44:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908191535.IAA11186@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:35:46 -0500 Subject: FS: tc 2290 $750 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"B01pr3.0.TN3.fH2lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A tc bonanza today: TH ********* TC Electronics 2290 Digital Delay Asking Price: US$750 Condition: Good Age: N/A Description: This is absolutely one of the best delay units made. It is quiet and almost totally transparent sounding. Almost all major studios have at least one and many guitarists use them in their rack. This unit was used in both guitar and studio applications. It in not in mint condition, but it isn't really beat up. It was taken care of well. It is several years old, but still sounds great. A must for any studio. New $1700, selling for $750. Pictures available by email. Shipping and payment arranged through email. Seller: Tom Burdak, E-mail: tori_lover@usa.net (Profile) Post Date: 8/18/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 12:07:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25643; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:07:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:07:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland / Talent In-Reply-To: <34a06ecd.24ed6b9f@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"sJum5.0.2b2.W82lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i'm very familiar with my right hand, my left still feels like a stranger, which feels good. On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 Hawkeye255@aol.com wrote: [.I [.<< A friend of mine, left handed guitarist playing a right handed guitar [. upside down (not re-strung, just upside down) was showing me a simple riff. [. When I made the excuse that I couldn't follow what he was playing [. because the guitar was upside down he simply turned the guitar [. over and played it again right-handed. Oh, I hated that. >> [. [.That is, I imagine, what you might call "being familiar with your instrument." [. [.Thanks, [. Hawkeye [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 12:18:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30008; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:18:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908191534.IAA15218@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:34:04 -0500 Subject: FS: tc 2290 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HWmD7.0.y83.xF2lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com from Harmony Central. Talk to the guy at the bottom of the ad if you're interested. TH ********** *** T.C. ELECTRONICS 2290 DELAY UNIT *** Asking Price: US$1200 Condition: Mint Age: 4 years Description: Mint condition 2290 delay unit. if you want the best this is it. stock unit thats been used for guitar and kept in rack at all times. Seller: charlie hitchcock, 805-564-8902 E-mail: charliehitchcock@hotmail.com (Profile) Location: SANTA BARBARA, CA Post Date: 8/18/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 12:52:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10567; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:52:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:52:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908191645.JAA15956@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:45:23 -0500 Subject: FS: JamMan (ebay) 32 seconds, Vortex From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3kD6N2.0.hu1.AJ3lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=144416080 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=146101504 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 13:01:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15326; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:01:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:01:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <105ec8ac.24ed9025@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:51:49 EDT Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland / Talent To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Resent-Message-ID: <"WNmTL2.0.Ub2.JP3lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 08/19/1999 11:07:13 AM Central Daylight Time, jamesrp@statenet.com writes: << i'm very familiar with my right hand, my left still feels like a stranger, which feels good. >> Once I saw Eugene Chadbourne play slide with a vibrator, which, by the way, was on. Does this mean....? k From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 13:28:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25914; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:28:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:28:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:21:34 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Dangers of Dixieland / Talent In-Reply-To: <105ec8ac.24ed9025@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"0ibVp1.0.8V5.Cp3lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hmmm....maybe an e-bow/vibrator hybrid would be popular with the girls. my girlfriend used to use her pink rocket when she played in her old band the phlegmings, i'm sure the chadborne stuff was lovely, she just got ugly with it, jamming it inbetween strings and hitting the neck with it, etc. very abusive, a very interesting assault. On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 KB305@aol.com wrote: [.In a message dated 08/19/1999 11:07:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [.jamesrp@statenet.com writes: [. [.<< i'm very familiar with my right hand, my left still feels like a stranger, [. which feels good. >> [. [.Once I saw Eugene Chadbourne play slide with a vibrator, which, by the way, [.was on. Does this mean....? [. [.k [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 13:46:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00476; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:46:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:46:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00c301beea65$8cd7c520$1c2310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Tim Nelson" , Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:57:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Xim5J1.0.kB4.de3lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I noticed a propensity for the Hdrsh to "clean up" bass sounds that overdrove it's input and "dirty up" similarly too-high-gained treble sounds with each echo. Haven't tested it further, tho'. >No, this was in "Looping Rec" mode. The HF damp position is irrelevant, >since it only operates in "Tape Echo" and "Normal Delay" modes (and was >fully counterclockwise anyway...) It seemed like a gradual shift in the >upper-midrange emphasis; it probably wouldn't have been noticeable at all >under normal conditions because it was SO gradual. > >Tim > >At 12:44 AM 8/18/99 EDT, you wrote: >><< ... I was enjoying the way the parts kept going in and out of phase, and >>noticed that the timbre of the Headrush loop had definitely changed over >>time. The volume seemed to be the same, but some of the frequencies were >more >>pronounced, so much so that it sounded like a new part had been introduced >>somewhere along the line. >> >> >>Did you have hi-damp on at all? I usually set it completely off. But the >>sounds definitely change with it on. Fun hunh? ;-) >> >>Hawkeye >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 13:50:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01227; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:50:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:50:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37B93E77.B6D22C2C@ncal.verio.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:52:04 +0000 From: Doug Michael Reply-To: dmic27@ncal.verio.com Organization: Angular Momentum CD's X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Loops:Electro-Harmonix References: <199908171534.IAA20340@scv4.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"q_VmX1.0.rr6.L_3lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I have several new loops (Realaudio) on my site using the Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay if anyone is interested... Scroll down to 'Some New Ambient Loops' http://www.ncal.verio.com/~dmic27/sounds.html End of the shameless plug. Doug Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 13:53:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02094; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:53:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:53:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908191740.NAA11078@mail1.javanet.com> From: "Kate & Dan Richardson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:41:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Freeq Reply-to: dlr@javanet.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Resent-Message-ID: <"p3hQV.0.3Y7.x64lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I must have been speaking from my unconscious desire for the ultimate lo-fi > 8kHz digital looper, what could that one be? Couldn't be easier. Get yourself an Echoplex, and feed it a way low level signal, so it's only using 8 bits. One of the math geeks here can tell you how many dB short of full level to run it. Turn up the ouput a bunch. Hey, presto! All the noise and grainyness you could ever want. Mine EDP's on ebay right now, went to $1125 this morning. Some nice person wants it very badly. You've still got 8 hours to beat them. Me, I'm quite happy with my JamMan. The plex has all this stuff I never use, and the matched set of Earthworks mikes I'm going to replace it with will be ever so handy. Actually, I've been trying to remember the name of the first long delay I had. It was a rackmount thing, I think it was 2 spaces high, black face, LED alphanum display, maybe had a keypad on it. 16 seconds of delay. Seems to me it came out a little before the EH, and the company that made it never made anything else. I bought it at a NAMM show ca. 1980. Made a good match for the MXR pitch transposer. Lovely interface on that. Four knobs, each a preset. Touch the knob and it jumps to that preset. Dan Kate and Dan Richardson Northampton, MA mailto:dlr@javanet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 17:57:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30813; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:57:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:57:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Looper Release Pool: EDP! Resent-Message-ID: <"1M2GZ2.0.xi5.nN7lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Perhaps we should start a pool, what comes out first the EH-16 reissue, the >FX-98 or the DL4? > My personal preference would be the new software upgrade for the EDP, half/double speed looping, and mysterious "granular" functions. Please Kim, can you drop just a few more hints about this? If the "rerelease" truly does lower the price, I'm considering getting another EDP for stereo looping madness. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 18:50:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10321; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:50:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:50:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Looper Release Pool: EDP! Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:20:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"Jk1iO2.0.nm.p98lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com And there are only 12 days left in August!! bIz -----Original Message----- From: Mark Landman [mailto:landman@wco.com] Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 10:32 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looper Release Pool: EDP! >Perhaps we should start a pool, what comes out first the EH-16 reissue, the >FX-98 or the DL4? > My personal preference would be the new software upgrade for the EDP, half/double speed looping, and mysterious "granular" functions. Please Kim, can you drop just a few more hints about this? If the "rerelease" truly does lower the price, I'm considering getting another EDP for stereo looping madness. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 19:06:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14098; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:06:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:06:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:43:37 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, landman@wco.com Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: EDP! Resent-Message-ID: <"bObMj1.0.hP2.Ib8lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> Perhaps we should start a pool, what comes out first the EH-16 reissue, the FX-98 or the DL4? > My personal preference would be the new software upgrade for the EDP, half/double speed looping, and mysterious "granular" functions. Please Kim, can you drop just a few more hints about this? If the "rerelease" truly does lower the price, I'm considering getting another EDP for stereo looping madness. I'm hoping to see that s/w sometime soon as well! And WHAT'S going on at Gibson? Anyone shake THAT tree lately? Geeze... they're the stiffest bunch of businessmen I've ever seen. They're probably too caught up in their Opcode lawsuit to bother with their products right now... *-> What's the prize for winning the pool?... I'd say we'll see the Line 6 stuff first. We're never going to see the DFX98. We may see the EH-16 in a year... But EDP S/W????? Right away please!!! Kim???? Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 19:57:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26162; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:57:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:57:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Looper Release Pool: EDP! Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:22:15 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"H41IM1.0.bF4._29lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >I'm hoping to see that s/w sometime soon as well! And WHAT'S going on >at Gibson? Anyone shake THAT tree lately? Geeze... they're the >stiffest bunch of businessmen I've ever seen. They're probably too >caught up in their Opcode lawsuit to bother with their products right >now... *-> I called and left a message with the 'echoplex person' that I was forwarded to, but he never replied. Time for another call... Maybe we should all call at once? :> 'All right now everybody, the harder we push, the faster we can all get out of this place' - Police Chief Wigham bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 20:48:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05165; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:48:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:48:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BCA127.516E75AF@sfsu.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:28:23 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Xh_7J2.0._7.34Alt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Personally, I feel that DOD deserves a good bitch slapping for dropping the ball on the DFX 98. If they were going to discontinue a few pedals, why didn't they discontinue some of the hundred and something overdrive pedals that they carry? The funny thing is that they were manufactured, and some people out there have some demos. I just have this creeping sense that there's a bunch in a box in a DOD warehouse or something. They were really making great progress up the DFX94, which I use all the time. There are probably 5 effects that DOD ever made that I'd ever want (EQ, Pan, Envelope Filter, DFX98, etc), and most of them were discontinued. Instead, DOD makes a ton of these overdrive/distortion pedals. It would be really silly to own more than two of these. Dammit! If there are any squashbox manufacturers out there, there are 2 pedals that I think would be very popular: 1) Something like the DFX94/98, only not discontinued. These had a really great interface for making cool loops on the fly. I'm okay with the quiet noise it generates, really! 2) ONE overdrive pedal that allows the user to better manipulate the settings, something like the EH Microsynth only better sounding for guitar. matt davignon Mike Biffle wrote: > >> Perhaps we should start a pool, what comes out first the EH-16 > reissue, the FX-98 or the DL4? > > > My personal preference would be the new software upgrade for the > EDP, half/double speed looping, and mysterious "granular" functions. > Please Kim, can you drop just a few more hints about this? If the > "rerelease" truly does lower the price, I'm considering getting > another EDP for stereo looping madness. > > I'm hoping to see that s/w sometime soon as well! And WHAT'S going on > at Gibson? Anyone shake THAT tree lately? Geeze... they're the > stiffest bunch of businessmen I've ever seen. They're probably too > caught up in their Opcode lawsuit to bother with their products right > now... *-> > > What's the prize for winning the pool?... I'd say we'll see the Line > 6 stuff first. We're never going to see the DFX98. We may see the > EH-16 in a year... But EDP S/W????? Right away please!!! Kim???? > > Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the > usual distractions..." > mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 19 22:51:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32209; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:51:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:51:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BCBE32.7338B133@spnz.org> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:32:18 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Introduction & questions References: <37BADC20.32A08B2A@cvtci.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Euj1Q2.0.h-6.HwBlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Patricio Murphy wrote: > > 3- How does the Lexicon JamMan rate in terms of reliability? I can get > it second hand quite cheap down here. If you can get a JamMan in working condition for cheap, turn around and sell it for a profit! But try it out first... they're great fun. :} Lexicon gear is extremely well-made, but the wall-wart would worry me in the long term. OTOH, it's not like a 9vac wall-wart is impossible to find... i actually have spares. > 4- Am I missing something? Maybe there's a multiFX that has built-in > looping capabilities, or another pedalboard option (I know Digitech > RP20, but since my bad experience with the PMC10 and their product > support, I'll pass Digitech this time), or something... What's your budget like? The new Lexicon guitar effect thing looks really nice, but $$$!! -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 08:07:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA16328; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:07:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:07:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BD4DD6.228F5B8A@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:45:12 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: talking wall warts.. References: <199908200705.DAA25442@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"AWhJJ1.0.fu2.W-Jlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Because the subject was raised, I have a question for technically literate people in the US... It is impossible (I'm french) to run properly either alesis or lexicon stuff with generic wall warts here. No matter voltage or polarity, it gives (on the jam man for example) a lighthing of all leds to red, all led segments on and nothing working. Id with the vortex; id with a midiverb 3. I checked everyhthing i caould (polarity, voltage) and found nodiférence with the usual ones... An alesis one will work perfectly on the lexes and visae versae. I don't get where is the difference... the same wallwarts work perfectly with any other brand (?!?!). Trouble is I f I want a buy one from alesis for example, here it is 50 dollars. Which is quite expensive... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 10:46:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19643; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:46:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:46:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: dinamic1-75.drago.net [195.76.196.75] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990820160230.03325bb0@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:02:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: RBT Subject: fs: effects Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id KAA15194 Resent-Message-ID: <"_8d4F.0.2k3.PNMlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all ! i still having these two machines in perfect condition that i wanted to sell. if somebody is interested, e-mail me privately. rauboto@dragonet.es sorry for the non-related content to the list thanks ! RBT ========================================= * Digitech TSR-12 studio reverb/multieffects stereo input / output, dual chorus, flangers, pitch shiter, reverbs, phaser, delays, sampler, ... = $ 180 / DM 325 * Digitech XP-100 whammy / wah / volume harmonizing functions , autowahs, ... = $ 135 / DM 245 ======================================= //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Raül Bonell Tomàs http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 13:35:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28879; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:35:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:35:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00d501beeb30$6c3dce60$462a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Matt Davignon" , Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:01:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"v1v69.0.-56.5wOlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: >2) ONE overdrive pedal that allows the user to better manipulate the >settings, something like the EH Microsynth only better sounding for >guitar. > >matt davignon The concept of the EH Microsynth distortion circuit is wonderful, and any solder-sniffer could build a killer El Distorto del Maximo with the concept: Split the outgiong signal up then feed it to three or four (or Hey! Let's have a mudbath! Ten!) different distortion circuits in parallel with appropriate mixing capabilities. I will do this myself someday, I swear, if I only live that long, and I can get reconnected to this caffiene IV. Nurse! Nurse! >Mike Biffle wrote: > >> >> Perhaps we should start a pool, what comes out first the EH-16 >> reissue, the FX-98 or the DL4? My monopoly money is on Pod DL4. To my knowledge, EH made no noise about the 16kms (li'l joke there) at Namm or via the trade mags and they are a little slow in their reissue approach AND they have the Headrush and Pod in competition now. DOD/Digitech could do well (and does anyone know just what the FX-98 would have to offer, were it to exist?) but again, no official release info. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 14:28:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08257; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:28:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:28:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A792253D@usilms12.cai.com> From: "Lanpheer, James" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: "Cloud loopers"?? Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:57:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"kC16Z3.0.YS.VSPlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud looper"? I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the "sound" might be like..., but what would make a cloud looper any different from a regular looper? Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no specifics.. Could a JamMan be a "cloud looper"? Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! Cheers! Jim Lanpheer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 15:11:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18906; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:11:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:11:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BD9FF3.C55ED0A5@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:35:33 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.bass,alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.effects,alt.guitar.amps To: "Frank A. Stokes" Subject: Super String Theory Live @ Tonic 8/21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GwCLY.0.XQ2.X_Plt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Live @ Tonic Saturday August 21st @ Midnight 107 Norfolk St Between Rivington and Delancey $4 "SUPER STRING THEORY" The Guitar Alternatives Orchestra Concluding the Avant Guitar Festival curated by Dr. Eugene Chadbourne Bass-Electric & Acoustic David C Gross Danny Zanker Drums Ravish Momin Guitar Angelo Bradford Citizen One Don Deering Bruce Eisenbiel Gary Heit Jesse Henry Ed Littman Kenta Nagai On Evan O'Reilly Alexander Rastopchin Jason Roth Tor Snyder Vocalinstruments Kid Lucky David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 14:48:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13406; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:48:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:48:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BDA00D.B36A7DF1@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:35:59 -0400 From: David Gross Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 MUSIC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.bass,alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar.jazz,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.effects,alt.guitar.amps To: "Frank A. Stokes" Subject: Loops & Vocals Live @ The Knitting Factory 8/22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4znY41.0.iT2.u_Plt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Live @ The Knitting Factory Sunday August 22nd @ 9 PM 74 Leonard St 212-219-3006 "Vocal Experiments" Theo Bleckmann-voice/electronics David C Gross-6 string fretless bass, electronics, loops Toby Kasavan-keys The wonderful voice of Bleckmann is treated through his array of effects with the underpinning of ambient instrumental festivities by Gross and Kasavan. David Gross "a great musician needs to be committed!' www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/7773/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 15:53:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31380; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:53:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:53:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:02:41 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, James.Lanpheer@cai.com Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? Resent-Message-ID: <"-_kfr1.0.BD4._RQlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi James... A cloud loop to me is an atmospheric and layered shorter delay (500ms - 3000ms) with medium to high regen. If you have a pedal on the delay input level or the input to the dsp you can be playing along happily and "inject" a quick cloud to recirculate for a while... A pitch shifter inside of a delay feedback loop creates cascading spacey chordal stacks. The LXP15 does this quite nicely. A JamMan will definitely do clouds in delay mode... shorter delays created denser clouds more quickly. Longer delay times tend to for more defined repetitive phrases. Unfortunately you're then using your dedicated long delay looper to be your cloud looper and then can't capture a sequence of several floating clouds. -m >>> "Lanpheer, James" 08/20 11:25 AM >>> What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud looper"? I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the "sound" might be like..., but what would make a cloud looper any different from a regular looper? Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no specifics.. Could a JamMan be a "cloud looper"? Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! Cheers! Jim Lanpheer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 16:41:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12665; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:41:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:41:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BDB446.4383350D@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:02:14 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? References: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A792253D@usilms12.cai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"A2eei.0.5I.-GRlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Lanpheer, James" wrote: > What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud looper"? > > I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the "sound" might be like..., > but what would make a cloud looper any different from a regular looper? > Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no specifics.. Could a JamMan > be a "cloud looper"? > > Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! > > Cheers! > Jim Lanpheer Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". That's a tool that makes clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy their nutty antics again and again! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 16:52:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16023; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:52:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:52:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BDB3B0.CE56FA4B@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:59:44 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: what the dod dfx 98 is References: <00d501beeb30$6c3dce60$462a10ac@Douglas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"PzHv7.0.8D.aFRlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "DOD/Digitech could do well (and does anyone know just what the FX-98 would have to offer, were it to exist?)" I know a little bit about it, I have it's predecessor, the DFX 94, a 4 second digital delay/sampler squashbox. Mostly, the 94 works as a digital echo pedal with three echo ranges (up to 1/4 sec, 1/4 to 1 sec, and 1 sec to 4 sec). Within these ranges, you have an analog pot named "DELAY" which allows you to analogally change the delay time (and pitch with it). On the longest echo setting, you can switch it over to "infinite repeat" mode which would of course be the looping element. On the other modes, hitting the footswitch turns the echo on and off. In inf repeat mode, it toggles the loop between open (where you can add to it, but the original components gradually fade away), and closed (where you can't add to it--this is where you'd "solo" over the infinitely repeating loops). There are two more dials, the volume dial which controls the echo/loop volume, and the repeat dial, which gives you anywhere from 1 to a whole bunch of repeats. When you're looping, the repeat dial represents how many layers you want in your loop. If you change the settings of the repeat dial while you're adding to your loop in infinite repeat mode, you can decide whether you want the new part you're adding to replace the existing part, or to be added on top of it. There's also a sampler mode available in the 1 to 4 second setting. Past the "infinite repeat" notch on the range dial, there are two more notches: "trigger" and "sample". When you're on sample mode, pressing the footswitch on the box makes the unit record a sample. The sample length is determined by the "DELAY" wheel. When you have a sample, switch over to the "trigger" mode and you can play the sample every time you hit the footswitch. And like you'd guess, you can change the pitch of the sample while it's playing by moving the DELAY wheel. Supposedly, the FX98 is an 8 second digital delay/sampler with all of these features. It also has a way in which you can reverse the samples and loops. It's such a tease too. I wouldn't have even heard of it except I saw it advertised in a Guitar Center flyer last year. They had a photo and everything, but the pedals were never shipped. Somebody on the list says he has one, but for the most part they were discontinued before they were released. BAD DOD!! BAD!! These pedals are great for free improvisation--starting a song with little idea of where it will go. Unlike other samplers, it doesn't give you the option of shortening a loop by lopping off the end or something. That makes it not so great for sampling drum loops since getting a perfect fit is trial and error every time. For anybody who has the West Coast CT CD, all of the remixes were done using only a CD player and 2 DFX 94's. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 17:08:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21268; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:08:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:08:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? In-Reply-To: <37BDB446.4383350D@sfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"XICRy.0.YV3._wRlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I guess a "clown-looper" would be better than a "mime-looper", but both are instruments in satan's band i'm sure. On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Matt Davignon wrote: [. [. [."Lanpheer, James" wrote: [. [.> What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud looper"? [.> [.> I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the "sound" might be like..., [.> but what would make a cloud looper any different from a regular looper? [.> Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no specifics.. Could a JamMan [.> be a "cloud looper"? [.> [.> Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! [.> [.> Cheers! [.> Jim Lanpheer [. [.Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". That's a tool that makes [.clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy their nutty antics again and [.again! [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 17:13:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22988; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:13:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:13:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <01a401beeb4c$94d5e440$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:42:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"BseJl.0.9x3.e0Slt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". That's a tool that makes >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy their nutty antics again and >again! :) Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com > > >"Lanpheer, James" wrote: > >> What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud looper"? >> >> I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the "sound" might be like..., >> but what would make a cloud looper any different from a regular looper? >> Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no specifics.. Could a JamMan >> be a "cloud looper"? >> >> Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! >> >> Cheers! >> Jim Lanpheer > >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". That's a tool that makes >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy their nutty antics again and >again! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 17:39:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31634; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:39:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:39:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908202042.NAA09294@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:42:44 -0500 Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hX7jF1.0.Lv3.I0Slt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No-one on this list owns one. TH ---------- >From: Matt Davignon >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: what the dod dfx 98 is >Date: Fri, Aug 20, 1999, 2:59 PM > > They had a photo and everything, but the pedals > were never shipped. Somebody on the list says he has one, but for the most part > they were discontinued before they were released. BAD DOD!! BAD!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 18:06:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07310; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:06:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:06:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:16:25 EDT Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"JpC8v3.0.9_5.0NSlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i had a dfx 94 and thought the sound quality when it was off was very annoying. serious bleed through. i ended getting rid of it. anyone know if the 98 suffers the same problem? maybe my 94 was just peculiar? =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 19:00:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20671; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:00:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:00:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BDD57F.CACAD01D@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:23:59 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is References: <199908202042.NAA09294@scv2.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"TGo-h2.0.Uv2.-MTlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone claimed that they did a while ago, but they could've been lying or coerced. I imagine that there may be some product samples floating around somewhere. Travis Hartnett wrote: > No-one on this list owns one. > > TH > ---------- > >From: Matt Davignon > >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: what the dod dfx 98 is > >Date: Fri, Aug 20, 1999, 2:59 PM > > > > > They had a photo and everything, but the pedals > > were never shipped. Somebody on the list says he has one, but for the most > part > > they were discontinued before they were released. BAD DOD!! BAD!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 19:37:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29530; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:37:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:37:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990820185828.0079f6e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:58:28 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? In-Reply-To: References: <37BDB446.4383350D@sfsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"HBoGN.0.JO4.cjTlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Mime-loopers" are great for looping measures of silence, but it's really hard to get 'em out of the (invisible) box... Sorry; I'm still under the influence of the "death by trombone" thread! Tim At 01:48 PM 8/20/99 -0700, you wrote: >I guess a "clown-looper" would be better than a "mime-looper", but both are >instruments in satan's band i'm sure. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 20:31:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10642; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:31:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:31:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908202251.PAA32960@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:51:46 -0500 Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Y4Qre2.0.eJ.rgUlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There might also be an original Gibson Moderne floating around, but I'm not holding my breath. TH ---------- >From: Matt Davignon >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is >Date: Fri, Aug 20, 1999, 5:23 PM > > Someone claimed that they did a while ago, but they could've been lying or > coerced. I imagine that there may be some product samples floating around > somewhere. > > Travis Hartnett wrote: From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 20 23:36:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23733; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:36:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:36:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201beeb81$3b954760$9496adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:54:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PBd3P.0.JM3.WOXlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com think some of the folks who refer to the "8 second DOD pedal" are referring to the Digitech version . . . I know at least one who was--I bought his Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 5:04 PM Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is >No-one on this list owns one. > >TH >---------- >>From: Matt Davignon >>To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >>Subject: what the dod dfx 98 is >>Date: Fri, Aug 20, 1999, 2:59 PM >> > >> They had a photo and everything, but the pedals >> were never shipped. Somebody on the list says he has one, but for From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 21 08:19:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA02962; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:19:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:19:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37BE936A.ECAE636C@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:54:18 -0400 From: Jeff Duke Reply-To: jmar@bellsouth.net Organization: TecBabLabs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wNLM5.0.Sj7.wHflt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone know how to reset an Alesis HR- 16 back to factory presets? Mine has no patterns in it. tanx, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 21 10:05:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23509; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:05:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:05:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004701beebde$8660a3e0$e7b84e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:07:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"bL7Ay1.0.2e5.g4hlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Speaking of "mime loopers," has anyone heard the new Marcel Marceau CD? ;-} James -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 7:58 PM Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? >"Mime-loopers" are great for looping measures of silence, but it's really >hard to get 'em out of the (invisible) box... > >Sorry; I'm still under the influence of the "death by trombone" thread! > >Tim > >At 01:48 PM 8/20/99 -0700, you wrote: >>I guess a "clown-looper" would be better than a "mime-looper", but both are >>instruments in satan's band i'm sure. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 21 21:13:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA10509; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:13:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:13:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <8cf56108.24f0a3d1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:52:33 EDT Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"eLmIV2.0.7e1.Keqlt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-20 13:36:06 EDT, you write: << The concept of the EH Microsynth distortion circuit is wonderful, and any solder-sniffer could build a killer El Distorto del Maximo with the concept: Split the outgiong signal up then feed it to three or four (or Hey! Let's have a mudbath! Ten!) different distortion circuits in parallel with appropriate mixing capabilities. >> Are you referring to the Square Wave slider of the MS. That's the only distortion I get out of the MS, but it's wicked! eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 09:34:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA28594; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:34:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 09:34:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990822152601.006bbb18@email.aon.at> X-Sender: aon.912027787@email.aon.at (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:26:16 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: haeusle Subject: OT: line 6, the pod Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"zFOxz3.0.dl5.5R_lt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi! some friends and i are looking for offers for line 6's THE POD. we would buy 5 of these beasts. does anybody know where we can get a good price? lorenz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 11:57:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26066; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:57:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:57:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C0195F.B46C117D@spnz.org> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:38:07 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT: line 6, the pod References: <3.0.32.19990822152601.006bbb18@email.aon.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"v_7xe2.0.0M5.cc1mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com haeusle wrote: > > hi! > > some friends and i are looking for offers for line 6's THE POD. we would > buy 5 of these beasts. does anybody know where we can get a good price? > > lorenz Musician's Friend (http://www.musiciansfriend.com) has them for $299US, i think. They are generally selling in the $299-319 range via mail order or big discount music stores these days. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 13:17:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11081; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:17:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:17:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b401beecbf$bec5df20$3e2a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: , Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:57:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"0HYiX1.0.Dm1.ln2mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com D. Baldwin, trickster Coyote, wrote: > The concept of the EH Microsynth distortion circuit is wonderful, and any > solder-sniffer could build a killer El Distorto del Maximo with the concept: > Split the outgiong signal up then feed it to three or four (or Hey! Let's > have a mudbath! Ten!) different distortion circuits in parallel with > appropriate mixing capabilities. >> > >eric p wrote; > >Are you referring to the Square Wave slider of the MS. That's the only >distortion I get out of the MS, but it's wicked! > And the Coyote replies: The so-called "octave" sounds on the EH Synth are just dedicated distortion circuits. The octave-up is much like the Octavia fuzzboxes, and the octave-down is like the Boss Octave Box or whatever it's called or the MXR Blue Box (I think; I haven't heard/played it yet) . Far removed from conventional "warm tube-like" distortion or digital pitch shifters like the Digitech Whammy, these circuits mangle your notes big time, especially when you play two notes at once, as you probably already know. Yes, wicked. In a Satanic way. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 13:16:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10943; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:16:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:16:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b301beecbf$bd4cfac0$3e2a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Looper's Delight (E-mail)" Subject: Control voltage source Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:54:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Mqram2.0.Ul1.in2mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've been searching the Web for a control voltage source which I'd like to use for a variety of applications. Specifically related to looping, the dream box would have an output of +5v in a variety of waveforms to drive the variable low frequency thingie in my Bob-Sellon-modded Lexicon PCM-42. Currently the PCM-42 has a wave which can oscillate the delay in a sine wave (the pitch goes uuuuppppp real slow - or fast - and bbbaaaacccckkkk dddoooowwwnnnn equally so) or square wave (the pitch jumps! up! then down!) and the depth of the oscillation can be adjusted. What I'd like is to have all kinds of wave shapes available - sine, square, triangle, sawtooth, reverse sawtooth, random/noise, and toss in a sample-and-hold to boot. I suspect that if the frequency of this usually-subaudio wave were to get into the audio range, things would get very Ring Modulated, eh? But I can't seem to find a nice pre-built box. The other application for this wonderbox would be to control the Moogerfooger Ring Mod. I'd like to tune the control voltage to very specific pitches in the audio range to achieve very predictable results. Perhaps a keyboard control would be appropriate. BTW, I've checked out PAIA Electronics for this. No luck. Please, Loopers, please help me in my time of need. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 13:17:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11108; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:17:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:17:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b101beecbf$ba7b3d20$3e2a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Malhomme" , Subject: Re: talking wall warts.. Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:05:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"4m7Ht3.0.6m1.kn2mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My suspicion is that the Alesis and Lexicon wall warts are AC (alternating current) while all others are DC (direct current). The symbol for AC on the wall warts I own is a wavy line like a sine wave. I imagine an AC adaptor *could* run a DC unit, which is why the Alesis/Lexicon warts run other devices, but the DC adaptors would *probably* create precisely the "frozen on" condition you're experiencing because it's like the current is "stuck" at one point in it's cycle. If you can find a source for good quality AC wall warts, they may be cheaper than the brand-name 50 dollar units. Good luck, and be careful with wall wart mix-and-match games. You could probably burn something out pretty quick with the wrong mix! Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Malhomme To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 8:45 AM Subject: talking wall warts.. >Because the subject was raised, I have a >question for technically literate people in >the US... > >It is impossible (I'm french) to run properly >either alesis or lexicon stuff with generic >wall warts here. No matter voltage or >polarity, it gives (on the jam man for >example) a lighthing of all leds to red, all >led segments on and nothing working. Id with >the vortex; id with a midiverb 3. I checked >everyhthing i caould (polarity, voltage) and >found nodiférence with the usual ones... >An alesis one will work perfectly on the >lexes and visae versae. I don't get where is >the difference... >the same wallwarts work perfectly with any >other brand (?!?!). >Trouble is I f I want a buy one from alesis >for example, here it is 50 dollars. Which is >quite expensive... > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 13:19:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12076; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:19:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:19:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00b201beecbf$bc1739e0$3e2a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Jeff Duke" , Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:18:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"tR59i1.0.Up1.2p2mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I own an HR-16 (and love the piss out of it - not a pretty sight). There are no factory presets - no preset patterns at all. It's a big blank canvas. The only "presets" are a blank 8-beat "measure" and a stick click for time reference when in "record" mode. When these begin to appear on the used market for under $100, as I suspect they will, I'm going to buy them all up and chain them together... and rule the world! Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 7:54 AM Subject: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine >Anyone know how to reset an Alesis HR- 16 back to factory presets? Mine >has no patterns in it. > >tanx, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 13:22:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12603; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:22:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:22:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1276780989==_ma============" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1J Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:05:04 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: new song uploaded Resent-Message-ID: <"q4Z912.0.s52.ht2mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --============_-1276780989==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I uploaded new song by Real Audio. This song was live recorded my live gig in 19th Aug at Kobe. Please visit and listen to http://www.cavestudio.com/music/index.html I played, SCI ProOne TR808 TR606(Analogue Solution moded) Sharman Filterbank Lexicon Voltex Digitech Timemachine Korg SDD1000 Mackie 1402VLZ no pictures sorry.. I hope you enjoy my music.. Regards Sunao Inami E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan --============_-1276780989==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Hi, GenevaI uploaded new song by Real Audio. This song was live recorded my live gig in 19th Aug at Kobe. Please visit and listen to http://www.cavestudio.com/music/index.html I played, SCI ProOne TR808 TR606(Analogue Solution moded) Sharman Filterbank Lexicon Voltex Digitech Timemachine Korg SDD1000 Mackie 1402VLZ no pictures sorry.. I hope you enjoy my music.. Regards Sunao Inami E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan --============_-1276780989==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 14:47:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32597; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:47:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:47:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990822142446.007a4810@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:24:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine In-Reply-To: <00b201beecbf$bc1739e0$3e2a10ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"41Ekb.0._56.0v3mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Jeff, I'm not sure about the HR, but I know if you want to re-initialize on the SR-16, you turn off the power for a few seconds, then press and hold the PLAY and ERASE buttons while turning the power back on, holding them for at least three seconds. It may be the same on the HR, then again, maybe not! Have you checked with Alesis? Tim >>Anyone know how to reset an Alesis HR- 16 back to factory presets? Mine >>has no patterns in it. >> >>tanx, >> Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 14:54:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01602; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:54:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:54:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990822143315.0079fde0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:33:15 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Control voltage source In-Reply-To: <00b301beecbf$bd4cfac0$3e2a10ac@Douglas> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"fRGc6.0.gV6.v04mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's a link to the Synthfool site's links page. It's got about a gazillion links including several DIY-oriented ones where you'll find schematics, repair hints, parts sources and so forth. It's a good one to bookmark. Good luck, Tim At 12:54 PM 8/22/99 -0400, you wrote: > I've been searching the Web for a control voltage source which I'd like >to use for a variety of applications. (etc) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 16:55:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28183; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:55:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:55:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C05A9B.FB6F1FE2@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:16:27 -0400 From: Jeff Duke Reply-To: jmar@bellsouth.net Organization: TecBabLabs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine References: <3.0.5.32.19990822142446.007a4810@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6bDNT3.0.d_4.Ak5mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yes I found this at Alesis, http://www.alesis.com/support/notes/Basics/RE_INIT.html It doesn't have presets like the SR-16. jd Tim Nelson wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I'm not sure about the HR, but I know if you want to re-initialize on the > SR-16, you turn off the power for a few seconds, then press and hold the > PLAY and ERASE buttons while turning the power back on, holding them for at > least three seconds. It may be the same on the HR, then again, maybe not! > Have you checked with Alesis? > > Tim > > >>Anyone know how to reset an Alesis HR- 16 back to factory presets? Mine > >>has no patterns in it. > >> > >>tanx, > >> Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 17:46:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07211; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:46:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:46:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:36:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: new song uploaded Resent-Message-ID: <"Q1IyS3.0.L21.-q6mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:05 AM -0700 8/22/99, Sunao Inami wrote: >>>> I uploaded new song by Real Audio. This song was live recorded my live gig in 19th Aug at Kobe. Please visit and listen to http://www.cavestudio.com/music/index.html I hope you enjoy my music.. <<<< Nice Sunao, I enjoyed it! My girlfriend insists I must buy a cd from you. :-) is it possible? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 17:50:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07843; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:50:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:50:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990822173656.007a4dd0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:36:56 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"pgmpy.0.Ni.Uj6mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Kelly, I'm not sure, because I've never had mine "lock up" on me, but, y'know, I'll bet it does clear everything, because Alesis highly recommends saving the SR-16's memory to tape or MIDI before re-initializing. The manual is kind of vague; it could be interpreted as either clearing ALL memory, or all user-input changes, so it would be safer to assume that you'd lose your pre-sets. If the HR- works the same way, this would leave Jeff right about where he started, wouldn't it? Someone in this position would probably have to either find someone who's made a tape backup and load from that, or find someone who's got a HR-16 that still has all its presets and get the two machines to talk to each other via MIDI. I've just been searching the web for HR-16 info and all I'm finding are dead links or people asking the same question Jeff did on BBS's and getting no answers. Even my favourite bookmarked SR-16 site is no longer (although I did turn up a pretty cool SR-16 editor demo). However, one thing that did pop up was an old LD archive entry where Kim Flint mentions using his HR-16 with his 'plex, so maybe he would know... Kim? Jeff never specified whether his is the older HR-16 or the (relatively) newer HR-16B, which probably makes a difference... Tim At 03:01 PM 8/22/99 EDT, you wrote: > Do you loose the factory presets in the SR-16 when you intialize? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 18:19:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14445; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:19:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:19:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C072A6.2F59F6B5@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:59:02 -0400 From: Jeff Duke Reply-To: jmar@bellsouth.net Organization: TecBabLabs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine References: <3.0.5.32.19990822173656.007a4dd0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ghSaP.0.Hf2.DE7mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just the HR-16 no B. I don't know the dif. Keeps great time and has good midi interface. Jeff Tim Nelson wrote: > Jeff never specified whether his is the older HR-16 or the (relatively) > newer HR-16B, which probably makes a difference... > > Tim > > At 03:01 PM 8/22/99 EDT, you wrote: > > Do you loose the factory presets in the SR-16 when you intialize? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 19:39:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA31608; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:39:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:39:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C09428.E37653E7@toddreynolds.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:22:05 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: new song uploaded References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"G9FJM3.0.XW6.DL8mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey sunao, i enjoyed it too. synthesizers all the way through? or is that live string music i hear? todd reynolds Kim Flint wrote: > At 10:05 AM -0700 8/22/99, Sunao Inami wrote: > > >>>> > I uploaded new song by Real Audio. > This song was live recorded my live gig in 19th Aug at Kobe. > > Please visit and listen to > http://www.cavestudio.com/music/index.html > > I hope you enjoy my music.. > > <<<< > > Nice Sunao, I enjoyed it! My girlfriend insists I must buy a cd from you. > :-) is it possible? > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 21:02:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18042; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:02:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:02:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990822173656.007a4dd0@pop.ici.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:45:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine Resent-Message-ID: <"J4vah3.0.uT3.Lc9mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 2:36 PM -0700 8/22/99, Tim Nelson wrote: >Hi Kelly, > >I'm not sure, because I've never had mine "lock up" on me, but, y'know, >I'll bet it does clear everything, because Alesis highly recommends saving >the SR-16's memory to tape or MIDI before re-initializing. The manual is >kind of vague; it could be interpreted as either clearing ALL memory, or >all user-input changes, so it would be safer to assume that you'd lose your >pre-sets. If the HR- works the same way, this would leave Jeff right about >where he started, wouldn't it? the re-init on the HR-16's clears the pattern and song memory, leaving all the patterns as empty, 2-bar, 4/4. Doesn't restore original patterns. >Someone in this position would probably have >to either find someone who's made a tape backup and load from that, or find >someone who's got a HR-16 that still has all its presets and get the two >machines to talk to each other via MIDI. I think I have a backup tape of the HR-16B original patterns. They probably are not the same as the HR-16, so it probably won't help. (the "B" had different samples, more "aggressive".) I saved them right after I got it, then reinitialized to have the whole thing blank. Didn't want the whole memory used up with somebody else's patterns that I was never going to use. I'm not sure why you'd want the original preset patterns anyway. As I recall they were kinda cheesy, or too busy trying to show off the features of the thing. Why not just do your own? I like those old HR-16 drum machines. I use it for midi clock mainly, it's very solid and easy to control, with a nice slider for tempo. The samples in it are really limited of course, but it's got 4 outputs and ok for basic stuff. If you play with the pitch shifting and run different outputs to different filters and effects, it can still be pretty useful. Definitely back up what you do on it though. I had mine lose it's memory once when I turned it on, killing a whole bunch of patterns and songs I had put a lot of time into. I've heard this happens every so often with these. Naturally I didn't have an up to date backup..... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 22 21:25:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24044; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:25:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:25:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KelRey@aol.com Message-ID: <88f0768f.24f1f912@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:08:34 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"agqfw2.0.px4.zy9mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for getting back to me Tim, I think your right about losing all the presets. Kelly From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 02:06:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA28266; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:06:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:06:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C0E074.ECAD47AF@sfsu.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:47:33 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Looper Release Pool: References: <8cf56108.24f0a3d1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yWdkw3.0.Px5.Q2Emt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I get the most distortion with the Square Wave slider, but the Octave and Sub-Octave sliders also offer some distortion on mine. Only the Guitar slider offers the straight signal. I really enjoy doing the filter sweeps manually while I'm playing. matt Echopark99@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 99-08-20 13:36:06 EDT, you write: > > << > The concept of the EH Microsynth distortion circuit is wonderful, and any > solder-sniffer could build a killer El Distorto del Maximo with the concept: > Split the outgiong signal up then feed it to three or four (or Hey! Let's > have a mudbath! Ten!) different distortion circuits in parallel with > appropriate mixing capabilities. >> > > Are you referring to the Square Wave slider of the MS. That's the only > distortion I get out of the MS, but it's wicked! > > eric p > echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 02:07:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA28520; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:07:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:07:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C0E13F.37779595@sfsu.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:50:55 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine References: <00b201beecbf$bc1739e0$3e2a10ac@Douglas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"xMiQi3.0.M06.M4Emt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I spent 3 years gradually customizing my BOSS DR-550 drum machine. I had most of the "drum sets" programmed to sounds that I like to use, and I made a bunch of rhythms that were just waiting for the right song---until my roommate borrowed the machine and initialized all of the settings. I told him it was okay and then went to my room and wept softly. matt "K. Douglas Baldwin" wrote: > I own an HR-16 (and love the piss out of it - not a pretty sight). There are > no factory presets - no preset patterns at all. It's a big blank canvas. The > only "presets" are a blank 8-beat "measure" and a stick click for time > reference when in "record" mode. When these begin to appear on the used > market for under $100, as I suspect they will, I'm going to buy them all up > and chain them together... and rule the world! > Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster > dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Duke > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Saturday, August 21, 1999 7:54 AM > Subject: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine > > >Anyone know how to reset an Alesis HR- 16 back to factory presets? Mine > >has no patterns in it. > > > >tanx, > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 02:14:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30681; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:14:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:14:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990823054934.23500.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Control voltage source To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"kayfZ3.0.Qz5.03Emt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check out...... Kenton Pro Solo http://www.kenton.co.uk JKJ CV-4 or CV-5 http://www.tiac.net/users/jkjelec Waldorf Pulse Plus http://www.waldorf-gmbh.de/welcome.html The Pro Solo & the CVs are midi/cv converters. Each has an LFO capable of producing a variety of waveforms. The Pro Solo & the CV-4 both cost about $200 I believe. The Waldorf Pulse Plus is an analogue, mono, rack mounted synth with an on board midi/cv converter. I think it sells for about $650. You can use its LFO to control outboard equipment via cv. The JKJ units are odd in that, other than a knob for selecting midi channel, there is no built in user interface. You must have an external midi controller, (I use an ART X-15 foot controller), to operate them. I have the CV-5, & use the two expression pedals on the X-15 to control LFO speed & depth. I can select different wave forms by sending midi program changes. My major complaint is that the slowest LFO speed is only 0.2 Hz. The folks at JKJ are very helpful & will set the cv output range to your specification before they ship it. The major reason I did not buy the Kenton Pro Solo is that the people there were totally unresponsive to my email inquiries. All I wanted to know was the range of speeds for its LFO. Their on-line manual does not provide this info. I later contacted a Kenton user & asked him & all he could do was give me his best guess "by ear" because the info was not included in his manual. Rumour has it that the slow speed is .06 Hz. Kenton would not even answer to verify this! I've heard the Waldorf Pulse Plus described as a midi/cv converter with an excellent analogue synth included. While it doesn't provide as many waveforms as the other boxes, its LFO speed can get down to 0.008 Hz. Like the others, it has a random waveform. I still might buy one of these. I hope this info is enough to get you started. I know where you're coming from. I desired more options for controlling parameters on my Digitech boxes. I haven't gotten around to hooking up to my Vortex yet. John --- "K. Douglas Baldwin" wrote: > I've been searching the Web for a control > voltage source which I'd like > to use for a variety of applications. Specifically > related to looping, the > dream box would have an output of +5v in a variety > of waveforms to drive the > variable low frequency thingie in my > Bob-Sellon-modded Lexicon PCM-42. > Currently the PCM-42 has a wave which can oscillate > the delay in a sine wave > (the pitch goes uuuuppppp real slow - or fast - and > bbbaaaacccckkkk > dddoooowwwnnnn equally so) or square wave (the pitch > jumps! up! then down!) > and the depth of the oscillation can be adjusted. > What I'd like is to have > all kinds of wave shapes available - sine, square, > triangle, sawtooth, > reverse sawtooth, random/noise, and toss in a > sample-and-hold to boot. I > suspect that if the frequency of this > usually-subaudio wave were to get into > the audio range, things would get very Ring > Modulated, eh? But I can't seem > to find a nice pre-built box. > The other application for this wonderbox would > be to control the > Moogerfooger Ring Mod. I'd like to tune the control > voltage to very specific > pitches in the audio range to achieve very > predictable results. Perhaps a > keyboard control would be appropriate. BTW, I've > checked out PAIA > Electronics for this. No luck. > Please, Loopers, please help me in my time of > need. > Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster > dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us > > > === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 02:26:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA01112; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:26:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 02:26:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990823061015.14332.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:10:15 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"bbT5P1.0.-B7.FMEmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Of course, I've heard that, in France, "Claude Looping" is very popular. Meanwhile, here in Georgia, I am on the cutting edge of the "Clod Looping" movement. Perhaps you've heard of my group, "Handfarts, Jugs, & Banjos". :) John --- "Dennis W. Leas" wrote: > >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". > That's a tool that makes > >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy > their nutty antics again > and > >again! > > :) > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > > > > > >"Lanpheer, James" wrote: > > > >> What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud > looper"? > >> > >> I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the > "sound" might be > like..., > >> but what would make a cloud looper any different > from a regular looper? > >> Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no > specifics.. Could a > JamMan > >> be a "cloud looper"? > >> > >> Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! > >> > >> Cheers! > >> Jim Lanpheer > > > >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". > That's a tool that makes > >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy > their nutty antics again > and > >again! > > > > > > === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 07:08:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA24999; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:08:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:08:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C12838.BC8AE680@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:53:44 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? References: <19990823061015.14332.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1PbwR3.0.zd5.8cImt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com John Tidwell wrote: > > Of course, I've heard that, in France, "Claude > Looping" > is very popular. Your talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 08:28:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA13848; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:28:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:28:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:08:32 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Marcel Marceau CD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"pxDhm.0.jG2.mdJmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, Marcel Marceau does a killer version of John Cage's 4:33 on that one. ;) Anyway, to me a cloud looper is something capable of creating atmospheric cloudscapes. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 08:36:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15717; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:36:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:36:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KelRey@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:22:45 EDT Subject: Re: Alesis HR- 16 drum machine To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"I91xH.0.a63.2rJmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com you can download the presets at the the Alesis site www.alesis.com Kelly n a message dated 8/23/99 1:07:27 AM, mdavig@sfsu.edu writes: << Anyone know how to reset an Alesis HR- 16 back to factory presets? Mine > >has no patterns in it. > > > >tanx, > > Jeff > > >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 10:03:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02713; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:03:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:03:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C150F5.B68B04F9@node.net> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:47:33 -0400 From: James Keepnews Reply-To: keepnews@node.net Organization: * - node - * X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is References: <199908221340.JAA29738@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"g61o52.0.Pk7.h3Lmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >-----Original Message----- >From: Travis Hartnett >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Friday, August 20, 1999 5:04 PM >Subject: Re: what the dod dfx 98 is > > >No-one on this list owns one. > >TH No-one's gonna own one, neither, story I'm hearing. Like someone else on the list, I saw the promotional copy from some retail establishment or other on this 8-second sampler/delay, only to be told by Digitech that, at some point within the time they sent out marketing photos of the stompbox and I asked after it, Digitech/DOD had halted production on the unit. Who can divine the kernel of wisdom from this popped corn of sudden reversal in commercial initiative, or, for that matter, figure out why they decided to not make them? Maybe they heard about the pool and took an aggressive short position. Smart. My $$ is on the DL-4 being released first, then my tax records -- the people have a right to know -- then Robert Downey, Jr. BTW, if that there DFX 94 was this ostensible unit's predecessor, then my dead-but-for-the-dust-gathering EchoPlus was the pre-predecessor. Same sample/short-delay/long-delay modes to choose between, same infinite repeat switch...my ur-standard for audio sampling-holding-dicking-with, and a useful paradigm for revealing what's wrong with today's teens and their loopers...and how, using simple household remedies like witch hazel and sloe gin, shut-ins across the Rust Belt are helping...on the next Judge Judy. ----------------------------------------------------------------- ~ > --- James Keepnews --- < "Don't quote anybody, Sir!" (.-.) > -- Multimedia Yahoo -- < \ * -- Krishnamurti - > - keepnews@node.net - < ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 10:39:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11775; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:39:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:39:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1276704010==_ma============" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:28:02 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: Re: new song uploaded Resent-Message-ID: <"xNK4v3.0.mB2.2hLmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --============_-1276704010==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 2:36 PM -0700 99.8.22, Kim Flint wrote: > At 10:05 AM -0700 8/22/99, Sunao Inami wrote: > > >>>> > I uploaded new song by Real Audio. > This song was live recorded my live gig in 19th Aug at Kobe. > > Please visit and listen to > http://www.cavestudio.com/music/index.html > > > I hope you enjoy my music.. > > <<<< > > Nice Sunao, I enjoyed it! My girlfriend insists I must buy a cd from you. > :-) is it possible? Hi Kim, Thank you for your listen :) I think you can get my band,TIME CONTROL 1st album around the World or online CD shop(www.cdnow.com etc..) Other CDs sell in Japan only.. :( or I can send my promo to you. let me know your address by Email. Regards Sunao Inami Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 --============_-1276704010==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" At 2:36 PM -0700 99.8.22, Kim Flint wrote: > At 10:05 AM -0700 8/22/99, Sunao Inami wrote: > > >>>> > I uploaded new song by Real Audio. > This song was live recorded my live gig in 19th Aug at Kobe. > > Please visit and listen to > http://www.cavestudio.com/music/index.html > > > I hope you enjoy my music.. > > <<<<<<<< > > Nice Sunao, I enjoyed it! My girlfriend insists I must buy a cd from you. > :-) is it possible? Hi Kim, Thank you for your listen :) I think you can get my band,TIME CONTROL 1st album around the World or online CD shop(www.cdnow.com etc..) Other CDs sell in Japan only.. :( or I can send my promo to you. let me know your address by Email. Regards Sunao Inami Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 --============_-1276704010==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 10:56:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16558; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:56:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:56:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1276703384==_ma============" X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1Jr1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37C09428.E37653E7@toddreynolds.com> References: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:38:28 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: Re: new song uploaded Resent-Message-ID: <"6DB802.0.qv2.nqLmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --============_-1276703384==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Tod, > hey sunao, i enjoyed it too. synthesizers all the way through? or is that > live string music i hear? Thank you for your listen. I played synth only in my last gig.. some real guitar and bass ued music availa =bel in mysite by Real Audio,but it very few.. Regards Sunao Inami Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 --============_-1276703384==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Hi Tod, > hey sunao, i enjoyed it too. synthesizers all the way through? or is that > live string music i hear? Thank you for your listen. I played synth only in my last gig.. some real guitar and bass ued music availa =bel in mysite by Real Audio,but it very few.. Regards Sunao Inami Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 --============_-1276703384==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 10:54:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16295; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:54:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:54:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Kaoss Pad - a real winner -- mini-review Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:31:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"i8ETY3.0.fa2.smLmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just picked up the Kaoss Pad from Korg. This is a seriously unique piece of equipment!! And so aptly named! VORTEX-like in its ability to morph from one setting to another. You get the following patches: 1-10 Filters 11-20 Modulation 21-30 Delays 31-40 Reverb 41-50 FX 51-60 Sampling A knob for "input volume" A knob to change patches Six buttons to recall six favorite patches Effect On button Effect Hold buttton 2-digit led Patch & X/Y axis number display window Wall-wart. While you can't edit the available patches, the way the unit works you have at least 10 easily recallable settings per patch if you use the x/y coordinates to return to a previously happening effect. That's a lot of setting's. Here's how you use the Kaoss Pad. By moving your finger on a little pad (like on some laptops) across an X & Y axis, you are in real-time changing parameters of the patch. Each axis has values from 0-9. So, say you choose delay patch 22. By using the X & Y axis, you can modify the effect by choosing "settings" from 0,0 to 9,9. As you can see, there are a lot of possibilities! For example, moving your finger on the pad from left to right (x-axis) will cause some patches to move from the left to the right. Or moving your finger across the y-axis and you increase or decrease delay regeneration. And moving across the pad diagonally will change left/right panning and delay regeneration simultaneously. And tapping your finger across diferent points on the pad will instantly move the settings to those coordinates. Pressing the Effect Hold button will HOLD the parameters at the values set when you pick your finger up. So if you like things to stay panned to the right, press the HOLD button while your finger is on the right side of the pad. Sounds like fun? It is. And I haven't told you anything about the 5-second sampler! As a guitarist, I wish I had more hands! Now, if someone were to make this as a footpedal with a ball-socket joint to pan left/right & up and down (instead of the pad) you'd have a wacky and wierd stompbox. Anyone interested in building that? CON's - 1. uses phono jacks (well, not a problem really) 2. while you have input level control, you have no output level control 3. accepts line-level and microphone-level (NOT GUITAR-LEVEL) 4. oh-no, another wall wart 5. where do I put it? Favorite Abusive Trick So Far -- Overdriving the unit by plugging my guitar directly into the mic input and then using the Filter patches to get all variety of distortion tones -- from Smashing Pumpkins to ZZ Top. Rating this unit on the Davonian Scale of Pedal Coolness: 9.0 David Kirkdorffer UNDO From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 11:31:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26806; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:31:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:31:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005e01beed7b$38aa5580$d4964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Unsubscribe Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:21:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01BEED59.B0BE8220" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"B5g7_2.0.EU5.TMMmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BEED59.B0BE8220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unsubscribe. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BEED59.B0BE8220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_005B_01BEED59.B0BE8220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 12:18:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06472; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:18:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:18:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00e601beed81$70b92ae0$122a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Claude Voit" , Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:05:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"p5Lnq1.0.Lm.56Nmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On a (serious) historical note, I believe Andy Summers often referred to a certain sound as "cloud chords". It was the sound he used on "Walking On The Moon". KAAChaaanngchannganngannganggangang. Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 13:01:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19090; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:01:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:01:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3aa911cc.24f2d1cb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:33:15 EDT Subject: delay formulas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"ovYA12.0.wr2.1WNmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this was in the latest "guitar player" mag.....it may be helpful for thems that didnt know this (like me)............. note value................formula for note duration in milliseconds quarter note....................60,000 divided by bpm = quarter note ms eighth-note.....................quarter-note ms divided by 2 sixteenth-note................. " " " " " 4 half-note......................... " " " X 2 whole-note...................... " " " X 4 dotted quarter-note.......... " " " + eight-note ms dotted eight-note............. eight-note ms + sixteenth-note ms quarter-note triplet........... half-note ms divided by 3 eight-note triplet.............. quarter-note ms divided by 3 i know we talked about this a bit ago, but i thought this chart might be helpful......... btw, in a past post the "roctologists" spoke highly of the under-rated zoom 2100, i could not stop myself from getting one from musicians friend for $99.00 and i must say that i got half that value out of it yesterday in my first venture into it, a lot-o-fun, the sounds on it are no great shakes but being able to have 3 5 sec. samples at your disposal is kind of neat........the "roctologists" were going to put a review of this beastie on the LD site, i hope they do so........it seems to be a fun little tool.......it is a bit limited, but what the hay, a little more spice for the loop soup.......more on this later, perhaps?................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 13:36:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27789; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:36:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:36:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:27:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908231727.CAA07887@pop2.osk.3web.ne.jp> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: cctakuya@osk2.3web.ne.jp (Takuya "Shiro" Yamamoto) X-Sender: cctakuya@pop2.osk2.3web.ne.jp Subject: Upload My web MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.8r6-J16) Resent-Message-ID: <"rkJ66.0.LL6.jIOmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi! ALL. I have uploaded my web. and upload My new songs on my web. Please listen these! Regards. http://www.osk.3web.ne.jp/~cctakuya iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Takuya "Shiro" Yamamoto zip 559-0011 #101 5-7-26 Kitakagaya Suminoe Osaka city OSAKA JAPAN TEL +81 6 6685 0340 PHS 070 5948 0226 URL is http://www.osk.3web.ne.jp/~cctakuya e-mail is cctakuya@osk2.3web.ne.jp Yes! We're living in the time and a words! iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 14:13:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06053; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:13:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:13:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:44:08 EDT Subject: LD VOL 1 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"AA2kn3.0.JS7.JYOmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com my copy of LD VOL 1 arrived today..........what wonderful music!!!.........a most excellent job by all invloved.........thank you very much.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 15:00:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19949; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:00:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:00:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <002801beed94$803c22c0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: delay formulas Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:22:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"FA-ac.0.mk2.LFPmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >btw, in a past post the "roctologists" spoke highly of the under-rated zoom >2100, i could not stop myself from getting one from musicians friend for >$99.00 and i must say that i got half that value out of it yesterday in my >first venture into it, a lot-o-fun, the sounds on it are no great shakes but >being able to have 3 5 sec. samples at your disposal is kind of >neat........ Is this the same as the Zoom Player 2100? As described in http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/multiconsoles.html ? And that figure is $99??? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 14:43:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14367; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:43:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:43:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006901beed94$e7f21fa0$9f0a0118@lakwod1.co.home.com> From: "Russell" To: Subject: Echoplex? Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:25:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01BEED62.9CC9C780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"q2V_Q1.0.M42.P6Pmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BEED62.9CC9C780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have any idea where to find an Echoplex Digital Pro - or if = there's anything that does basically the same kinds of things? I got a = Boomerang, and I love it, but the added features like "undo" and the = ability to que multiple loops seem to make the Echoplex superior. I need = this primarily for live performance with guitar and sax so it has to be = foot controlable. Thanks Russell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MamaSutra's playing at Herman's again on September 1st !!! Check out www.mamasutra.com for details ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ********* "A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon=20 without springs - jolter by every pebble in the road." Henry Ward Beecher ********* ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BEED62.9CC9C780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have any idea = where to find=20 an Echoplex Digital Pro - or if there's anything that does basically the = same=20 kinds of things? I got a Boomerang, and I love it, but the added = features like=20 "undo" and the ability to que multiple loops seem to make the Echoplex = superior.=20 I need this primarily for live performance with guitar and sax so it has = to be=20 foot controlable.
 
Thanks
Russell
 
 
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MamaSutra's playing at Herman's = again on=20 September 1st !!!
Check out www.mamasutra.com for=20 details
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without springs - jolter by every pebble in = the=20 road."
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------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BEED62.9CC9C780-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 15:45:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01601; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:45:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:45:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C1A2D5.9C0C5E64@sfsu.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:36:54 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? References: <19990823061015.14332.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> <37C12838.BC8AE680@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"FMZHv1.0.4b7.eBQmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Your talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular ClaudeYour talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular ClaudeYour talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular ClaudeYour talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular ClaudeYour talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular ClaudeYour talking to me mmmm ????? yes I'm very popupular Claude Claude Voit wrote: > John Tidwell wrote: > > > > Of course, I've heard that, in France, "Claude > > Looping" > > is very popular. > > Your talking to me mmmm ????? > yes I'm very popupular > > Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 17:03:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25127; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:03:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:03:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908232051.NAA17520@scv3.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:51:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Phaser Comparison Web page From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fzPOO.0.L85.8HRmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wow--this is exhaustive! I wish someone would do the same thing for ring modulators. It'd be great to see a comparison between all the models. I've had a tough time finding a modern unit that sounds warm enough for me. Travis Hartnett ---------- >From: Legion >To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" >Subject: Phaser Comparison Web page >Date: Mon, Aug 23, 1999, 3:25 PM > > A little while ago someone was asking about phasers. Here is the URL for > the Phase Off web page which has pictures and MP3 files of vintage and > current units including the old and new Moog 12 stage phasers. > > http://zappa.jpq.com/phase/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 16:59:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23614; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:59:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:59:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C1AE4E.66E@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:25:50 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Phaser Comparison Web page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YMul13.0.oU3.uxQmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A little while ago someone was asking about phasers. Here is the URL for the Phase Off web page which has pictures and MP3 files of vintage and current units including the old and new Moog 12 stage phasers. http://zappa.jpq.com/phase/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 18:15:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11514; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:15:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:15:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: <151c788e.24f31ed9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:02:01 EDT Subject: Re: delay formulas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"SrQcX.0.132.BKSmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com God, thanks a ton, I've been searching my recording books looking for just this formula. You just saved me another few hours of page - flipping. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 18:52:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA21234; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:52:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:52:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQi7Yh97sCScJCxaZtzqVGu2RCWBwIVAL4xzHu4vTFXkQ7H4ZNJE+bpGwo9 From: hipSheridan@webtv.net (Sheridan Lane) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:42:36 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ensoniq asrx Message-ID: <647-37C1CE5C-7327@postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"Oru2b.0.tb4.XvSmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello Everyone; Is there anybody out there that can give me tips on the asrx? Tips like sequencing,beat tempo matching and other internal settings. I am a d.j. and I have been playing music for twenty years and now I want to add some of my own. D.J. Doc Lane From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 19:11:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA25621; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:11:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:11:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: spat@visi.com Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990823225142.006ca714@pop.visi.com> X-Sender: spat@pop.visi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:51:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: delay formulas Resent-Message-ID: <"jfh5W3.0.XD5.x2Tmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dennis Leas wrote: >Is this the same as the Zoom Player 2100? As described in >http://www.samsontech.com/zoom/multiconsoles.html ? And that figure is >$99??? that's it. i got mine for $85 with the musician's friend discounts they bestow upon my apparent "you're tops" consumer status. steve From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 19:41:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA32741; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:41:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:41:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <76085fa2.24f32d97@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:04:55 EDT Subject: Re: Echoplex? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"e5tmQ.0._x5.IFTmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There are two (count 'em 2) on Ebbay right now. Bill "hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 21:29:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27573; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:29:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:29:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: ensoniq asrx Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:04:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <647-37C1CE5C-7327@postoffice-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"a7Wyt.0.XA5.G-Umt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check Onelist.com for the ASR-X group. It's definitely worth checking out the archives ... http://www.onelist.com/viewarchive.cgi?listname=asrx -----Original Message----- From: Sheridan Lane [mailto:hipSheridan@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 6:43 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ensoniq asrx Hello Everyone; Is there anybody out there that can give me tips on the asrx? Tips like sequencing,beat tempo matching and other internal settings. I am a d.j. and I have been playing music for twenty years and now I want to add some of my own. D.J. Doc Lane From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 21:39:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30132; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:39:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:39:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990823212843.007a7d90@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:28:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: EH16 inflation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"d3hoF3.0.n46.OCVmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Did anyone else notice the current bid on the EH16 on eBay? $1,051.09!!!!! That blows away the $700 JamMan! Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 21:39:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30168; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:39:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:39:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908240120.VAA24493@smtp6.mindspring.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:26:56 -0400 Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? From: "Christopher White" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mLXbj2.0.086.iDVmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HEY JOHN HANDFARTER! where do you live in ga and do you play live around atlanta? ---------- >From: John Tidwell >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? >Date: Mon, Aug 23, 1999, 2:10 AM > >Of course, I've heard that, in France, "Claude >Looping" >is very popular. > >Meanwhile, here in Georgia, I am on the cutting edge >of the "Clod Looping" movement. Perhaps you've heard >of my group, "Handfarts, Jugs, & Banjos". > >:) > >John > > > >--- "Dennis W. Leas" wrote: >> >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". >> That's a tool that makes >> >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy >> their nutty antics again >> and >> >again! >> >> :) >> >> Dennis Leas >> ----------------------------- >> dennis@mdbs.com >> >> > >> > >> >"Lanpheer, James" wrote: >> > >> >> What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud >> looper"? >> >> >> >> I don't play guitars, but i can envision what the >> "sound" might be >> like..., >> >> but what would make a cloud looper any different >> from a regular looper? >> >> Many have mentioned them in passing, but with no >> specifics.. Could a >> JamMan >> >> be a "cloud looper"? >> >> >> >> Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! >> >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> Jim Lanpheer >> > >> >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown Looper". >> That's a tool that makes >> >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can enjoy >> their nutty antics again >> and >> >again! >> > >> > >> >> > >=== >John Tidwell > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 23 23:58:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00956; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:58:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:58:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:37:16 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: AURAL INNOVATIONS Resent-Message-ID: <"Xtt8y3.0.8s6.9FXmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey loopers, Everyone should support this Space Rock Zine from Columbus Ohio.The current issues has reviews of CD's from three different list members. Brian Mckenzie's Electric Bird Noise - "Unleashing the Inner Robot" Adam Levin's The Dark Aether Project - "Feed The Silence" and my own FingerPaint - " In the Loop" Plus reviews of Daevid Allen, Paul McCartney's ambient project( which was news to me), Ozric Tentacles, etc. Also live gig reviews, interviews and more. All told 63 pages of good reading. Jerry Kranitz needs to be appluaded for the exosure he is giving to Space Rock and related musics. Email him at jkranitz@infinet.com for ordering information. http://www.infint.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html Peace, Patrick Fingerpaint's New Release: IN THE LOOP ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 02:46:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA11226; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:46:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:46:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990824060904.25375.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:09:04 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"ZiZyH2.0.lB.dRZmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Loved the subliminal message! John --- Claude Voit wrote: > > > John Tidwell wrote: > > > > Of course, I've heard that, in France, "Claude > > Looping" > > is very popular. > > Your talking to me mmmm ????? > yes I'm very pop(upu)lar > > Claude > > === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 02:51:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12705; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:51:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:51:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <019801beedfa$75bbc740$165bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990823212843.007a7d90@pop.ici.net> Subject: 2 new Jam Man for sale Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:32:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"h2sxS.0.uE1.tgZmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No footswitch. 12 sec memory. E mail me privately. Julio From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 02:52:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13094; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:52:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 02:52:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C23BFA.19A975BC@spnz.org> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:30:18 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EH16 inflation References: <3.0.5.32.19990823212843.007a7d90@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9inSj1.0.ee1.tmZmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tim Nelson wrote: > > Did anyone else notice the current bid on the EH16 on eBay? > > $1,051.09!!!!! That blows away the $700 JamMan! That's okay. The EH16 blows away the JamMan in several other respects! -dave (now former owner of both an EH16 and a JamMan, still looking for the perfect looper) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 03:01:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA15874; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:01:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:01:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990824064240.9558.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:42:40 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"q1Pn51.0._I2.DxZmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm just down the road in Newnan, but I haven't been in a band since echoplexes contained tubes & tape. If you have info on looping in 'lanta, please share. I need a very good reason to go to the big city. John PS- Speaking of handfarts, I wonder if the two guys on "Hee-Haw" are misunderstood geniuses of true analogue performance looping. Hmmmmm....and to think that some folks trek all the way to India! --- Christopher White wrote: > HEY JOHN HANDFARTER! > where do you live in ga and do you play live around > atlanta? > ---------- > >From: John Tidwell > >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Subject: Re: "Cloud loopers"?? > >Date: Mon, Aug 23, 1999, 2:10 AM > > > > >Of course, I've heard that, in France, "Claude > >Looping" > >is very popular. > > > >Meanwhile, here in Georgia, I am on the cutting > edge > >of the "Clod Looping" movement. Perhaps you've > heard > >of my group, "Handfarts, Jugs, & Banjos". > > > >:) > > > >John > > > > > > > >--- "Dennis W. Leas" wrote: > >> >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown > Looper". > >> That's a tool that makes > >> >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can > enjoy > >> their nutty antics again > >> and > >> >again! > >> > >> :) > >> > >> Dennis Leas > >> ----------------------------- > >> dennis@mdbs.com > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >"Lanpheer, James" wrote: > >> > > >> >> What the H-E-DoubleHockeySticks is a "cloud > >> looper"? > >> >> > >> >> I don't play guitars, but i can envision what > the > >> "sound" might be > >> like..., > >> >> but what would make a cloud looper any > different > >> from a regular looper? > >> >> Many have mentioned them in passing, but with > no > >> specifics.. Could a > >> JamMan > >> >> be a "cloud looper"? > >> >> > >> >> Fill me in on cloud loopers, me wants to know! > >> >> > >> >> Cheers! > >> >> Jim Lanpheer > >> > > >> >Oh, I think it was supposed to be "Clown > Looper". > >> That's a tool that makes > >> >clowns repeat what they're doing so you can > enjoy > >> their nutty antics again > >> and > >> >again! > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >=== > >John Tidwell > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > > === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 06:19:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA19521; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:19:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:19:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990824094746.006b8640@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:47:46 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: ensoniq asrx Resent-Message-ID: <"-QVvx2.0.SP3.oecmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just received my used asr x today.... great machine... ideal for loops and grooves... and dead easy to use... I love those little dynamic pads... there are a lot of net resources about it... look at ensoniq.com and synthzone.com to start... ciao leo At 18.42 23/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hello Everyone; Is there >anybody out there that can give me tips on the asrx? Tips like >sequencing,beat tempo matching and other internal settings. >I am a d.j. and I have been playing music for twenty years and now I >want to add some of my own. >D.J. Doc Lane > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 08:30:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA13411; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:30:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:30:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824081535.007a47f0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:15:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: AURAL INNOVATIONS In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"CkmRR2.0.Z02.rgemt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Due to Patrick's inadvertent omission of an "e" from the URL (it was disemvoweled), you'll get a dead link. Try this one: And he's right; very interesting stuff there! Tim At 11:37 PM 8/23/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hey loopers, > > >Everyone should support this Space Rock Zine from Columbus Ohio.The current >issues has reviews of CD's from three different list members. > >Brian Mckenzie's Electric Bird Noise - "Unleashing the Inner Robot" > >Adam Levin's The Dark Aether Project - "Feed The Silence" > >and my own FingerPaint - " In the Loop" > >Plus reviews of Daevid Allen, Paul McCartney's ambient project( which was >news to me), Ozric Tentacles, etc. > >Also live gig reviews, interviews and more. All told 63 pages of good reading. >Jerry Kranitz needs to be appluaded for the exosure he is giving to Space >Rock and related musics. Email him at jkranitz@infinet.com for ordering >information. >Peace, > >Patrick > > > > Fingerpaint's New Release: > > IN THE LOOP > > ... an intelligent, stimulating mixture of mimimaist spacebeats and > obscure samples layered upon a hypnotic illbient backdrop. > > DIGITAL ARTIFACT # 12 > > http://www.fingerpaint.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 11:42:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31932; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:42:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:42:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C2B783.469@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:17:23 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: LD CD #1 (Buy'em here!) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Ftfa8.0.xA6.mXhmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > my copy of LD VOL 1 arrived today..........what wonderful music!!!.........a > most excellent job by all invloved.........thank you very much.........michael Gotta tag onto this as I was about to repost anyway. The third batch of LD #1 Cd orders are going out this week including two to the UK (woo hoo!). Orders picked up a bit and then dropped off again far below the original pre-order requests so I want to encourage anyone and everyone (and yr friends) to please buy this wonderful CD and support the web site as well as your fellow Loopers. Here's the info again: Looper's Delight CD#1 $12 postpaid in the US, $13 Postpaid to Canada and the world (US funds only) Make checks, MO, etc. payable to Help Wanted Productions and mail 'em to: Help Wanted Productions PO Box 2205 Phila, Pa 19103 (Be sure to include your return address!) There is an online catalog with links, descriptions, and a downloadable Order Form at: Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/catalog.html Thanks to everyone who ordered one so far. This has been a great project and on behalf of HWP, Ray Peck (the original CD#1 creator), and all the Looper's I'm glad to see this alive and being enjoyed again. Please spread the word! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 13:06:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23600; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:06:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:06:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C2C916.B1CDC71B@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:32:22 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: 4pole hidden feature Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HMEVq2.0.8l3.kfimt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey miko and other 4 pole loopers a litle trick I found somewhere on the net cut off mod source:lfo lfo :s-h lfo speed :0 now each trigger (midi or audio) will generate a new cut off freq fire a 16th note midi sequence and have a synced S-H filter delirium soooooo much fun Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 17:34:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00787; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:34:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:34:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199908242038.QAA21435@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"UMuoB1.0.YQ4.cBmmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #128 August 19, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Belgian atmospheric musician and his collaborations. The feature CD at midnight was his collaboration with Capriolo Trifoglio and Diego Borotti, Landscape in Obscurity on the Hypnos label. Vidna Obmana : http://www.vidnaobmana.org EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================= 11:00 pm Jean Michel Jarre Second Rendezvous Rendezvous (Dreyfus) VA [David Talento] Just Give Up and Marry Loopers' Delight Vol. 1 the Boss's Daughter VA [Munz & Marselje] Beyond Out There Lies the Truth (Groove) VA [DESTOK] Run Electronic Music Project Vol 2 Lambert Airing Mirror of Motions (Spheric) Dave Sneed Passages A Change In Time Jeff Greinke River of Wood Lost Terrain (Hypnos) The Tunnel Singer Sea Stars Water Birth Spectral Voices Sun Shower Coalescence (Spectral Spiral) Spectral Voices Merge Coalescence (Spectral Spiral) V.O.,Trifoglio,Borotti Landscape in Obscurity Landscape in Obscurity (Hypnos) 12:00 am V.O.,Trifoglio,Borotti Landscape in Obscurity Landscape in Obscurity (Hypnos) (continued) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will conclude the month-long focus on Vidna Obmana and his various collaborations. The Feature CD at Midnight will be his release with Steve Roach, Ascension of Shadows on the Projekt label. The Somewhere Else disc of this three CD masterpiece will be played. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 18:02:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08432; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:02:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:02:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:09:58 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199908242109.RAA22127@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Resent-Message-ID: <"Cdcxb2.0.Of6.zemmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice for June, 1999. (Shows #125 to #128; 29-July-1999 to 19-August-1999 Reported in alphabetical order by album title. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Ozma - A Huge and Silent Place - Atomic City Vidna Obmana & Steve Roach - Ascension of Shadows - Projekt Akikaze - Conflicting Emotions - Quantum Spacecraft - Earthtime Tapestry - Lektronic Soundscapes Coyote Oldman - House Made of Dawn - Hearts of Space Fanger & Kersten - Interkosmos - Manikin Various Artists - Jarre Logic - Purple Pyramid Vidna Obmana, Trifoglio, & Borotti - Landscape in Obscurity - Hypnos Various Artists - Loopers' Delight Vol. 1 - none Jeff Greinke - Lost Terrain - Hypnos Vidna Obmana - Memories Compiled 2 - Projekt Lambert - Mirror of Motions - Spheric Various Artists - Out There Lies the Truth - Groove Jean Michel Jarre - Rendezvous - Dreyfus Vidna Obmana & Serge Devadder - The Shape of Solitude - Multimood Robert Scott Thompson - The Silent Shore - Mirage Various Artists - Soundscape Gallery Vol3 - Lektronic Soundscapes Protogonos - Strange Geographie - DiN Stephen Parsick - Traces of the Past - Spheric Steve Roach - Truth & Beauty - Timeroom From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 18:35:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16243; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:35:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:35:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:03:35 EDT Subject: Re: talking wall warts.. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"C2Fmy3.0.UB2.WRnmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 22/08/99 18:17:30 GMT Daylight Time, dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes: > My suspicion is that the Alesis and Lexicon wall warts are AC (alternating > current) while all others are DC (direct current). yes , the LexWarts are definately AC running a Lex rack which expects AC on a DC wart may work for a while, but I'd be worried about burning out a component in the lex ( a diode which would be carrying 2 times the current than if used with the right wart, ) the lexwarts (presumably) only contain transformers so could be replaced with a homemade device very easily. you'd just need to buy one that converts the local voltage to 9 V (AC). connect the 2 I/P wires to +ve & -ve terminals (either way round , unless one is connected to the chassis of the transformer, in which case connect this to the negative) connect the 2 O/P wires to a socket to fit the rack(either way round) ...but as mains voltages are involved you'd have to know what you were doing Andy Butler A thought... maybe usisng wallwarts makes it easier to elliminate earth loops. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 21:24:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA23743; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:24:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:24:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: vtroia@home.com Sender: "Vinny Troia" To: Subject: lexicon jamman needed Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:46:40 -0400 Message-ID: <6F0C89CB37CCD211890800A0C91EA1C4DABAF3@clients2.comcastpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"vXxOH.0.fb3.2ppmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone know where i can get a whole of a lexicon jamman? i will pay big, please reply. vtroia@home.com thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 23:24:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19992; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:24:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:24:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <850e1c1c.24f4b89e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:10:22 EDT Subject: Re: Phaser Comparison Web page To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"meEl51.0.G14.6xrmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-23 17:03:28 EDT, you write: << I've had a tough time finding a modern unit that sounds warm enough for me. >> I know it's not modern, but have you heard the 70's EH Freq. Analyzer? It's in a big muff type box, and it has a clear, warm, pleasing tone to my ears, much nicer than ones I hear in multi-fx units. Don't know how the reissue EH compares yet... Also, it is very basic, no LFO, etc. but I love the tone. Good luck and report back any good news... eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 24 23:39:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23729; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:39:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:39:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Echopark99@aol.com Message-ID: <5ad0bd10.24f4ba82@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:18:26 EDT Subject: Re: EH16 inflation To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 49 Resent-Message-ID: <"0aBe41.0.Nb4.x2smt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-08-24 02:54:13 EDT, you write: << > Did anyone else notice the current bid on the EH16 on eBay? > > $1,051.09!!!!! That blows away the $700 JamMan! That's okay. The EH16 blows away the JamMan in several other respects! >> ...and that one is the cleanest I've ever seen, box and all! I actually bid on it but I'm not at home with the address, and apparently the auction's over cause I can't search for it anymore. Anyone catch the final bid? eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 00:47:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA10406; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:47:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:47:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: EH16 inflation Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:12:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beeeb0$165b75a0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <5ad0bd10.24f4ba82@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"0I3E61.0.Fb7.yqsmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Eric and others- There are two shows this week that are worth mentioning- both feature guitar players of an amazing stature. Wed night is Scott Henderson, guitar player and front member of Tribal Tech- he occasionally uses loops but not too much- he has an extroidinary ability- like Jimi and Vai all rolled into one- Second is Mike Miller- extremely amazing guitar player who incorporates 2 Jam Man units in a most discreet and tasteful way- he is a super player who did the tour with the Zappa band filling in FZ's shoes- he has wonderful compositions and good dynamics- he also played with Chick Corea who Scott H. also played with- Mike Miller was responsible for me becoming intersested in looping along with an article featuring David Torn. If any of you are near the LA area you would be well rewarded for the drive- also the club is about as big as a very large living room- you could operate the floor pedals if your table is against the "stage" which is maybe 1" high. All the club info is below- hope to see some of you there! LA VÉ LEE, 12514 Ventura Blvd., Studio City, has music, often with a Latin or Brazilian bent, and Mediterranean cooking five days a week. Music Tues.-Sun., with the band striking up at 9:30 p.m. Full bar. All ages. (818) 980-8158. Fri.-Sat.—Singer-songwriter Kenny Rankin. Tues.—Marco Mendoza & Straight Jacket, with Joey Heredia and Renato Neto. Wed.—The Scott Henderson Trio. Thurs.—Mike Miller. -----Original Message----- From: Echopark99@aol.com [mailto:Echopark99@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 8:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EH16 inflation In a message dated 99-08-24 02:54:13 EDT, you write: << > Did anyone else notice the current bid on the EH16 on eBay? > > $1,051.09!!!!! That blows away the $700 JamMan! That's okay. The EH16 blows away the JamMan in several other respects! >> ...and that one is the cleanest I've ever seen, box and all! I actually bid on it but I'm not at home with the address, and apparently the auction's over cause I can't search for it anymore. Anyone catch the final bid? eric p echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 01:15:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA16974; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:15:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:15:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008301beeeb6$758ebd60$b85bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: Subject: 2 Jam Mans for sale. Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:58:21 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"5boUS1.0.od2.vOtmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No footswitch.12 sec memory.E mail me privately. Regards. Julio From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 03:52:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18047; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:52:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:52:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BEEEDF.1C67E080.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers Delight'" Subject: LD CD #1 on EMUSIC Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:15:41 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"e4rfA3.0.T94.Jzvmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com in case nobody noticed, Bill Fox featured the wonderful Looper's Delight CD #1 on his EMUSIC radio show, played David Talento's cool track, and even listed the CD among this month's top 20. Thanks Bill !! -Michael Peters -------------------------snip--------------------------- WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice for June, 1999. (Shows #125 to #128; 29-July-1999 to 19-August-1999 Reported in alphabetical order by album title. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Ozma - A Huge and Silent Place - Atomic City Vidna Obmana & Steve Roach - Ascension of Shadows - Projekt Akikaze - Conflicting Emotions - Quantum Spacecraft - Earthtime Tapestry - Lektronic Soundscapes Coyote Oldman - House Made of Dawn - Hearts of Space Fanger & Kersten - Interkosmos - Manikin Various Artists - Jarre Logic - Purple Pyramid Vidna Obmana, Trifoglio, & Borotti - Landscape in Obscurity - Hypnos Various Artists - Loopers' Delight Vol. 1 - none Jeff Greinke - Lost Terrain - Hypnos Vidna Obmana - Memories Compiled 2 - Projekt Lambert - Mirror of Motions - Spheric Various Artists - Out There Lies the Truth - Groove Jean Michel Jarre - Rendezvous - Dreyfus Vidna Obmana & Serge Devadder - The Shape of Solitude - Multimood Robert Scott Thompson - The Silent Shore - Mirage Various Artists - Soundscape Gallery Vol3 - Lektronic Soundscapes Protogonos - Strange Geographie - DiN Stephen Parsick - Traces of the Past - Spheric Steve Roach - Truth & Beauty - Timeroom From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 08:12:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00456; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:12:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:12:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990825075812.007a3100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:58:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EH16 inflation In-Reply-To: <5ad0bd10.24f4ba82@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"cxnMl.0.tl6.ZWzmt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Looks like it went for $1,075. At 11:18 PM 8/24/99 EDT, you wrote: >...and that one is the cleanest I've ever seen, box and all! I actually bid >on it but I'm not at home with the address, and apparently the auction's over >cause I can't search for it anymore. Anyone catch the final bid? > >eric p >echo park From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 08:52:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09386; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:52:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:52:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C3F31A.288E4F12@toddreynolds.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:43:57 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EH16 inflation References: <3.0.5.32.19990825075812.007a3100@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RWHGe3.0.2W1.CF-mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com pardon my stupidity, an EH16 is what? todd reynolds Tim Nelson wrote: > Looks like it went for $1,075. > > At 11:18 PM 8/24/99 EDT, you wrote: > >...and that one is the cleanest I've ever seen, box and all! I actually bid > >on it but I'm not at home with the address, and apparently the auction's > over > >cause I can't search for it anymore. Anyone catch the final bid? > > > >eric p > >echo park -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 09:50:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22680; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:50:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:50:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990825152143.006d9b30@email.aon.at> X-Sender: aon.912027787@email.aon.at X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:36:54 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: haeusle Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Nf5Uw1.0.aq3.ts-mt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi! just found this in my mailbox... now i have one or two questions: do you do a lot of modifications of stompboxes and other stuff? and do you build your own stomp boxes? i'm just getting my stuff together to build my own effect box (a simple distortion). if you have any experiences with this stuff, please let me know. bye for now, lorenz At 18:00 16.08.99 EDT, you wrote: >just an idea but > >as far as i know memory chips have a pin which takes the function of >'write enable', >unless the correct pulse arrives at this pin the contents of the memory >cannot change. >...and thus by stopping the pulse you have frozen the sounds >... making infinite repeats. > >I've seen a circuit that uses this method (from the seventies though). >It used a logic chip to interupt the pulse. > >perhaps you could just connect a resistor to hold the pin at the required >logic level. > >So... >can anyone reveal which chips are used in the Headrush so I can examine the >possibility? > >Andy Butler > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 16:27:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30347; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:27:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:27:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C3D023.E51B4CE3@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:14:43 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EH16 inflation References: <000001beeeb0$165b75a0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0Qq5W2.0.sf5.ui4nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Clifford Novey wrote: > > Eric and others- > > There are two shows this week that are worth mentioning- both feature guitar > players of an amazing stature. > Wed night is Scott Henderson, guitar player and front member of Tribal Tech- > he occasionally uses loops but not too much- he has an extroidinary ability- > like Jimi and Vai all rolled into one- > > Second is Mike Miller- extremely amazing guitar player who incorporates 2 > Jam Man units in a most discreet and tasteful way- he is a super player who > did the tour with the Zappa band filling in FZ's shoes- he has wonderful > compositions and good dynamics- he also played with Chick Corea who Scott H. > also played with- Mike Miller was responsible for me becoming intersested in > looping along with an article featuring David Torn. > AHH Scott Mike already 10 years I left GIT and I still have goose bumps when mentionning their name They played there once a week and mike was so a nice and funny teacher 10 years so fast.... ahh Claude Does anybody now if there is some Mike Miller CD or discography From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 16:32:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31967; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:32:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:32:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:21:03 EDT Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"Iy8FO.0.G27.B15nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i wouldnt highly reccomend this for something you prize but ive opened up everything i could and just started experimenting(old keyboards, toys, pedals, samplers) only things that are battery powered(9V or less)!!! but you just take 2 jewlers scewdrivers and attach the tips with alligator clips and wire and your set just test points around the circuit board to see what it does, your find worlds of sounds!! for example, my stock morley wah has 5 distortions(adjustable gain) the wah can respond to external light if i flip a switch theres an internal oscillator that i can control the ptich wtih another photocell(so i can play the thing with my 2 hands(tone and pitch), so experiment rodrigo In a message dated 8/25/99 9:50:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, haeusle@aon.at writes: > hi! > > just found this in my mailbox... > > now i have one or two questions: > do you do a lot of modifications of stompboxes and other stuff? > and do you build your own stomp boxes? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 19:19:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07341; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:19:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:19:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: dinamic1-190.drago.net [195.76.196.190] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990826003150.007cc210@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:31:50 +0200 To: stickwire-l@netcom.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, taptalk@progrock.net From: RBT Subject: new web page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id SAA29661 Resent-Message-ID: <"oDXeV3.0.4G7.b_6nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hola from Catalonia ! i invite you all to check out my new web page: *info on my actual projects *sporadic! gig dates *a good quality sound sample in mp3 format of a piece included in my first non-commercial live recording "Outlooks" released last year. *an extense list of links that you may find interesting, useful, funny, ... or perhaps boring, :-) plus others ... ( those with patience will got a sonic surprise ;-) Bye.Love.Peace. RBT p.s. An english version is coming quite soon. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Raül Bonell Tomàs http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 19:56:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16746; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:56:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:56:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990825232117.58688.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.20.0.92] From: "ld thomson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: new web page Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:21:16 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"ITPgE1.0.3_1.Gg7nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Catalonia?? Like in the famed MST 3000 episode "Catalonia Caper"??? >From: RBT >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: stickwire-l@netcom.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, >taptalk@progrock.net >Subject: new web page >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:31:50 +0200 > >hola from Catalonia ! > > i invite you all to check out my > new web page: > > *info on my actual projects > *sporadic! gig dates > *a good quality sound sample in > mp3 format of a piece included in > my first non-commercial live > recording "Outlooks" released > last year. > > *an extense list of links that you may > find interesting, useful, funny, ... > or perhaps boring, :-) > > plus others ... > > ( those with patience will got a sonic surprise ;-) > >Bye.Love.Peace. >RBT > >p.s. An english version is coming quite soon. > > > > > > > > > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >Raül Bonell Tomàs >http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 22:31:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21529; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:31:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:31:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C49EAF.6458EC1E@home.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:55:59 -0400 From: Fabio Katz Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-AtHome0404 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Chapman Stick and loops live in Ottawa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yohmK2.0._43.Ku9nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi loopers, I'll be playing at the Chapters Pinecrest bookstore in Ottawa this Friday, August 27 from 8:00 to 10:00 PM. I'll be doing originals and covers (Piazzolla, Bach, Schubert, Telemann, Gentle Giant, Lennon-McCartney, Santana) arranged for solo Stick (and loops for some songs). Visit http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 to listen to some sample songs. Chapters Pinecrest is located at 2735 Iris Street, next to Ikea. http://www.chaptersglobe.com/Stores/Store.asp?STOREID=2144 Chapman Stick: invented in the early seventies by Emmet Chapman in California, a 12-string instrument played by tapping independently with each hand. Visit Stick Enterprises at http://www.stick.com for more details on the Stick. Hope to see you there! Fabio Katz http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 mailto:fabiok@home.com #1344 6+6 Standard Tuning Grand Stick with MIDI Oberheim Echoplex From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 22:40:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23801; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:40:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:40:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C49DFA.E31CA112@erols.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:53:10 -0400 From: "J.G. Wong" Reply-To: adaaxs@erols.com Organization: Tokusatsu.com, Tokusatsu Access Archive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: old school looper References: <199908260003.UAA18899@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4GX4M.0.cs2.Fr9nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was recently given an Akai 8D half/quarter track analog reel to reel. This is a cadillac with fins as reel machines for consumer use goes: tube preamps and power amp with a speaker set the size of a 25" tv. Anyhow, Here is a question The manual specifies an adaptor that can be used make continuous tape loops. Since this thing is pre autoreverse, I wonder what it might be . perhaps a cart style loop ? or would it be a simpler device. I'd like to try it for a bit before I sell it off (or chop out the preamps) G. Wong From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Aug 25 22:42:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA24081; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:42:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:42:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C49CC6.319B977F@spnz.org> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:47:50 -0500 From: Dave Stagner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EH16 inflation References: <3.0.5.32.19990825075812.007a3100@pop.ici.net> <37C3F31A.288E4F12@toddreynolds.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Mpv9U2.0.Qo2.yp9nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Todd Reynolds wrote: > > pardon my stupidity, an EH16 is what? > The Electro-Harmonix 16 Second Delay, also known as "Fripp in a Box". This was probably the earliest and most prized performance-oriented looping device. It had 16 seconds of delay, reverse, modulation, infinite loop, and several other features, and came with an optional 6-button footswitch to activate many functions on the fly. Parameters were controlled with sliders, and the box looked like the one used for the EH Microsynth that is currently back in production. I used to own one... finally sold it because i was too afraid i'd break it to use it anymore. I once had to track down Mike Matthews of Electro-Harmonix in *Russia* to find out who could repair a problem! I've never regretted parting with a piece as much as that one. Despite limitations like poor bandwidth, mono operation, and obvious distortion, this is the COOLEST looping device i've ever used, maybe the coolest in existence! It had a rich, warm sound (lots of older digital delays do... early Lexicon delays, DeltaLabs Echotrons, etc), and you could easily manipulate the sliders live. The best looping performance i ever saw was an EH16 in the hands of Roger Miller during his "Maximum Electric Piano" period. He was using a Yamaha electric baby grand, Cage-style preparations, a volume pedal, a couple of fuzz boxes, an analog echo, and the EH16 to generate more noise than i've ever heard from one person. -dave From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 00:26:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA17288; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:26:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:26:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "nicholas konopka" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: lexicon Message-Id: <935639329.15959.139@excite.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:48:49 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 216.41.50.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"vnNUS2.0.ql1.oaBnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all, does anyone know where I can get the pair of footswitches that go with the Lexicon Vortex? ~one says: A/B TAP ~the other is: STEP BYPASS Nick.. ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 01:11:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28668; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:11:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:11:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C4C584.C3CC5AAF@erols.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:42:11 -0400 From: "J.G. Wong" Reply-To: adaaxs@erols.com Organization: Tokusatsu.com, Tokusatsu Access Archive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 - FP1, FP2 References: <199908240649.CAA12368@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"U_Zfg3.0.3K5.LJCnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've seen two compatable foot controllers for the Zoom 2100, the FP1 and FP2. The Zoom website says that FP1 is a fully functional volume pedal as well as expression pedal. Are these things proprietary or not ? I don't mind buying an accessory as long as it isn't redundant. I would think that a lot of you are looking at your's thinking similar thoughts. How many Loopers bought one this week ? Hands ?!! G. Wong From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 01:20:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA30253; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:20:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:20:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <79f7b1b3.24f61fc7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:42:47 EDT Subject: LD CD VOL 1 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ynx2C3.0.4Z5.xNCnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com would someone send me the site address to get this, i lost my mail with it in it and a few friends want to get the cd.........thanks.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 03:00:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA20344; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:00:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:00:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990826061640.1653.rocketmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:16:40 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: LD CD VOL 1 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"AbBHw.0.8L2.-lDnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here you go.... http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/catalog.html I received mine last week. I had also ordered Vol II, (use the link at the LD website), & got it 2 days ago. Hats off to EVERYONE involved in both projects! John --- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > would someone send me the site address to get this, > i lost my mail with it in > it and a few friends want to get the > cd.........thanks.........michael > > === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 03:15:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA24468; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:15:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:15:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <79f7b1b3.24f61fc7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:44:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: LD CD VOL 1 Resent-Message-ID: <"ddgfc.0.Py3.09Ent"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >would someone send me the site address to get this, i lost my mail with it in >it and a few friends want to get the cd.........thanks.........michael All CD info is on the Looper's Delight website, don't forget to check there for all your looping needs: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 03:21:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA25761; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:21:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:21:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <015301beef8e$c82f7360$85c0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Cuccurullo loops Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:46:48 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"pbH-x3.0.OP4.wEEnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thought I might mention that I caught Duran Duran last weekend. Warren Cuccurullo (guitar player for those not in the know) unleashed some nice bits of looped mayhem with a couple of Jammans (and LOADS of fx). Nice stuff from that guy. MicahH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 03:23:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA26570; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:23:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:23:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <015401beef8f$3d7cbf60$85c0d6d1@oemcomputer> From: "Elaine Walters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Lovetone address Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:50:06 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"x4W-B3.0.JX4.xHEnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Why hasn't the Lovetone site ever been updated?? I hear all about these cool new units (Ring Stinger, etc) but there are no mention of these on the site. I can't even send mail to the address listed. Have they relocated and I just missed out?? MicahH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 03:28:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27717; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:28:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 03:28:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001e01beef90$4b451420$2922dacf@stepheng> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: , References: <199908240649.CAA12368@rosy.yourwebhost.com> <37C4C584.C3CC5AAF@erols.com> Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 - FP1, FP2 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:57:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"hEZBt3.0.Wr4.pLEnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From: J.G. Wong > How many Loopers bought one this week ? Hands ?!! I'm tempted, frankly. The Musician's Friend catalog arrived in the mail today, sporting a $99 tag for a 2100. Damn! Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear a NEW "Star Spangled Banner" 8/13!) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 04:42:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA09418; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:42:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:42:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990826083241.24172.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: lexicon To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"swSnb2.0.Bo1.ikFnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't know if this is the same thing but.... In the lastest Musicians Hotline magazine, Eastcoast Music Mall shows a Lexicon Dual Footswitch in the NOS listing. Order # LEX DFS, price- $29.99. They have a toll free #, 800-901-2001 and a web site http://www.eastcoastmusic.com John --- nicholas konopka wrote: > Hi all, does anyone know where I can get the pair of > footswitches that go > with the Lexicon Vortex? > ~one says: A/B TAP > ~the other is: STEP BYPASS > > Nick.. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at > http://voicemail.excite.com > Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com > > === John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 04:54:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11562; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:54:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:54:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <058101beef9f$13bc5220$b2051a26@cblass> From: "lava" To: References: <015301beef8e$c82f7360$85c0d6d1@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: Cuccurullo loops Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:43:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"vJeSP1.0.b22.OqFnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com used to be with zappa! warren c that is cb - see be ----- Original Message ----- From: Elaine Walters To: Loopers Delight Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:46 AM Subject: Cuccurullo loops > Thought I might mention that I caught Duran Duran last weekend. Warren > Cuccurullo (guitar player for those not in the know) unleashed some nice > bits of looped mayhem with a couple of Jammans (and LOADS of fx). Nice > stuff from that guy. > > MicahH > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 06:23:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28157; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:23:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:23:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <6028c81a.24f66b3e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:04:46 EDT Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"gf2X33.0.v26.A5Hnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 25/08/99 14:50:56 GMT Daylight Time, haeusle@aon.at writes: > i'm just getting my stuff together to build my own effect box (a simple > distortion). > if you have any experiences with this stuff, please let me know. I used to do simple mods on 70's FX, the new stuff is beyond me. The only FX I've built myself have been from kits. ...except, that is for the onboard distortion for my guitar. Building your own distortion unit is easy, as any amplifier circuit can be made to distort. I used one transistor to make the most basic amplifier circuit possible and then attached a diode to at various points until I liked the sound. Most simple distortion units just have an OP Amp with 2 diodes in the feedback loop. Do try different kinds of diodes (germainium is more 'retro ' than silicon) You'll get the best sound by repeatedly experimenting and listening. You'll find plenty of schematics for vintage distortion units on the internet, I don't have any URLs for you but you might like to start at Harmony Central, http://www.harmony-central.com/ Please feel free to ask me if you have problems, I'll help if I can. Good luck Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 06:32:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA30143; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:32:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:32:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <073C734BD702D311A0E90001FA7E094782F9C3@letterbox.kscl.com> From: Anthony Mullen To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com, "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Advice on best World Music e-store Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:17:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"0dMwn3.0.Gg6._JHnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Can anyone help - I'm looking for the best internet shopping site for World Music - preferably the UK. I saw some Tuvan Throat Singers last night playing with a Bulgarian Choir - they could teach a 1000 arthouse eejits a thing or two about tone, dissonance and loopism......me being one of the eejits...If this show "Fly Fly My Sadness" ever comes to your town do yourself a favour and go... Hope someone can help.... Thanks Anthony From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 08:03:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA14746; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:03:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:03:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990826114547.26605.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:45:47 -0700 (PDT) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: 2 Jam Mans for sale. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"s9VbE2.0.Yn2.-YInt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what are the prices? dan --- Julio Moreno wrote: > No footswitch.12 sec memory.E mail me privately. > Regards. > Julio > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 09:52:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA07152; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:52:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:52:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <509A72D94082D2119CF600062B001871093B3A8B@po_conway_1.conway.acxiom.com> From: dastew - Darin Stewart To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Advice on best World Music e-store Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:19:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SLUIDL: 47640599-5B5211D3-98850000-F6775E9A Resent-Message-ID: <"7xAtL2.0.Y6.T_Jnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Speaking of Tuan Throat Singers -- there is a fascinating article in the current issue of Scientific American on the mechanics of their vocalizations. Remarkable stuff. Darin L. Stewart Advanced Technologies and Architectures Acxiom Corporation 501.342.4486 -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Mullen [mailto:anthony.mullen@KSCL.com] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:17 AM To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com; 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Subject: Advice on best World Music e-store Hi, Can anyone help - I'm looking for the best internet shopping site for World Music - preferably the UK. I saw some Tuvan Throat Singers last night playing with a Bulgarian Choir - they could teach a 1000 arthouse eejits a thing or two about tone, dissonance and loopism......me being one of the eejits...If this show "Fly Fly My Sadness" ever comes to your town do yourself a favour and go... Hope someone can help.... Thanks Anthony From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 10:04:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10489; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:04:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:04:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C540D3.7E32@voicenet.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:27:47 -0400 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com CC: Nemoguitt@aol.com Subject: Re: LD CD VOL 1 References: <79f7b1b3.24f61fc7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qYMUB1.0.6h.p8Knt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > would someone send me the site address to get this, i lost my mail with it in > it and a few friends want to get the cd.........thanks.........michael Ordering info and printable order form, reviews, links to full Musician and track listings, etc. can be found here: http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/ldcd1.htm $12 Postpaid in the US, $13 Canada and the World (US Funds only) Checks, MO payable to Help Wanted Productions. Mail 'em off to: Help Wanted Productions PO Box 2205, Phila, Pa 19106 Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 11:05:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30699; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:05:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <8115869d.24f6ad11@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:45:37 EDT Subject: Re: Advice on best World Music e-store To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"pVlpL.0.qU5.wCLnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anthony........you might try http://www.larkinam.com/ it may point you somewhere........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 11:07:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31174; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:07:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:07:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C561B9.39C1CFA1@toddreynolds.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:50:58 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: lexicon References: <935639329.15959.139@excite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"v_2Ib2.0.UQ5.TBLnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the best place is to go to the lexicon website, and buy from them directly. lexicon.com. or buy momentary footswitches by roland at any music store. the on off kind. todd nicholas konopka wrote: > Hi all, does anyone know where I can get the pair of footswitches that go > with the Lexicon Vortex? > ~one says: A/B TAP > ~the other is: STEP BYPASS > > Nick.. > > ________________________________________________________________ > Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com > Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 11:23:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05318; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:23:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:23:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990826150231.53434.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.20.9.168] From: "ld thomson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Chapman Stick and loops live in Ottawa Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:02:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"4B7qQ2.0.h97.hSLnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Stick man!! Put me on your Email list. I'm in Toronto but I do get up to our nation's capital at times. Lorne Thomson Toronto, Canada >From: Fabio Katz >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight >Subject: Chapman Stick and loops live in Ottawa >Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:55:59 -0400 > >Hi loopers, > >I'll be playing at the Chapters Pinecrest bookstore in Ottawa this >Friday, August 27 from 8:00 to 10:00 PM. > >I'll be doing originals and covers (Piazzolla, Bach, Schubert, Telemann, >Gentle Giant, Lennon-McCartney, Santana) arranged for solo Stick (and >loops for some songs). Visit http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 >to listen to some sample songs. > >Chapters Pinecrest is located at 2735 Iris Street, next to Ikea. >http://www.chaptersglobe.com/Stores/Store.asp?STOREID=2144 > >Chapman Stick: invented in the early seventies by Emmet Chapman in >California, a 12-string instrument played by tapping independently with >each hand. Visit Stick Enterprises at http://www.stick.com for more >details on the Stick. > >Hope to see you there! > >Fabio Katz >http://www.geocities.com/soho/suite/7007 >mailto:fabiok@home.com >#1344 6+6 Standard Tuning Grand Stick with MIDI >Oberheim Echoplex > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 12:28:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00412; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:28:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:28:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <509A72D94082D2119CF600062B001871093B3A8B@po_conway_1.conway.acxiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:15:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 - FP1, FP2 Resent-Message-ID: <"Hqef_1.0.Q16.XRMnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I bought my second one this week! On the foot controller issue, I posted a question a couple of weeks back which no one responded to: will a Roland EV-5 work with the 2100? The answer is no, not stock. I've found that the pot in the EV-5 is 10K, and the resistance needed by the Zoom is probably at least 50K. I've replaced the pot in my EV-5 (two of them, actually) with a 100K from Radio Shack, and it's swell. Probably any footpedal will do if you get the right pot into it. Wire one side of the pot to ground, and the other lugs to ring and tip plug conductors (the two "signal" conductors in your stereo cord). David Myers >I've seen two compatable foot controllers for the Zoom 2100, the FP1 and >FP2. The Zoom website says that FP1 is a fully functional volume pedal >as well as expression pedal. > >Are these things proprietary or not ? I don't mind buying an accessory >as long as it isn't redundant. I would think that a lot of you are >looking at your's thinking similar thoughts. > >How many Loopers bought one this week ? Hands ?!! > >G. Wong From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 14:23:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02865; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:23:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:23:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001601beefec$eac12780$84c656d1@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Non loop related- recorders Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:00:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEFB2.3D24ED80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"NEqtZ2.0.ru6.c1Ont"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEFB2.3D24ED80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all-=20 I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- = it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of = stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for private = listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price = range up to about $300. I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound = quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there = is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in = stereo-=20 Thanks-=20 Cliff=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEFB2.3D24ED80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all-
 
I wanted to get a consensus on what = everyone=20 uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or = other-=20 and what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to = record=20 for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it = anyway-=20 price range up to about $300.
 
I currently use a mini casette = recorder that is=20 pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be = better=20 but there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and = none in=20 stereo- 
 
Thanks- 
 
Cliff 
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEFB2.3D24ED80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 14:44:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09268; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:44:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:44:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <035501beeff0$4b514780$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:24:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0352_01BEEFC6.6245D7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"8sMiD.0.HW1.PZOnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0352_01BEEFC6.6245D7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via Sony = ECM-727P stereo mic I love it. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Hi all-=20 =20 I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live = shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what = type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for = private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it = anyway- price range up to about $300. =20 I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound = quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there = is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in = stereo-=20 =20 Thanks-=20 =20 Cliff=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0352_01BEEFC6.6245D7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; = either direct=20 from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic
 
I love it.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
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dennis@mdbs.com
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
= To:=20 Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: Non loop = related-=20 recorders

Hi all-
 
I wanted to get a consensus on = what everyone=20 uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini = disc or=20 other- and what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? = I need=20 to record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I = cant afford=20 it anyway- price range up to about $300.
 
I currently use a mini casette = recorder that=20 is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it = would be=20 better but there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it = seems- and=20 none in stereo- 
 
Thanks- 
 
Cliff 
------=_NextPart_000_0352_01BEEFC6.6245D7A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 15:10:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16583; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:10:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:10:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908261854.OAA01154@sun2.air.on.ca> From: Gerry P To: "Elaine Walters" , "Loopers Delight" Subject: re: Cuccurullo loops Date: 26 Aug 99 14:53:36 -0500 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.0.0.811 X-ID: AD2D71A145DA11D38117D44709C10000 Resent-Message-ID: <"i-fGW2.0.V03.zsOnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Also did some nice work on a few of the later Patrick O'Hearn CD's. > ** Original Subject: Cuccurullo loops > ** Original Sender: "Elaine Walters" > ** Original Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:46:48 -0500 > ** Original Message follows... > > Thought I might mention that I caught Duran Duran last weekend. Warren > Cuccurullo (guitar player for those not in the know) unleashed some nice > bits of looped mayhem with a couple of Jammans (and LOADS of fx). Nice > stuff from that guy. > > MicahH > >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > Gerry P "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." A Einstein From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 16:59:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13152; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:59:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:59:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: "Dennis W. Leas" cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders In-Reply-To: <035501beeff0$4b514780$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"jB4781.0.bT6.7cPnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How do you get the audio out of your mini disc? do you have another player with dig. out? Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Dennis W. Leas wrote: > Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic > > I love it. > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > -----Original Message----- > From: MediaOne > To: Loopers Delight > Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM > Subject: Non loop related- recorders > > > Hi all- > > I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to about $300. > > I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in stereo- > > Thanks- > > Cliff > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 17:03:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14426; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:03:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:03:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <64d01f32.24f7031d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:52:45 EDT Subject: Re: Cuccurullo loops To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"642UT1.0.kq2.DbQnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com and who could forget...missing persons? do you hear me? do you care? =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 17:20:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19554; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:20:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:20:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908262102.OAA57278@scv4.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:02:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Cuccurullo loops From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ozDZH2.0.jX3.BkQnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Warren put out an interesting album of all ambient looping stuff a few years ago. I remember Guitar Shop had a diagram of his signal path which took two pages to cover. TH ---------- >From: PJBMHB@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Cuccurullo loops >Date: Thu, Aug 26, 1999, 3:52 PM > > and who could forget...missing persons? do you hear me? do you care? =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 18:49:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08224; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:49:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:49:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000801bef012$7dc829a0$37ca56d1@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:29:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"k5Gd5.0.Ri.izRnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I dont own one - I am still only shopping- Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Unit Circle Media To: Dennis W. Leas Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders >How do you get the audio out of your mini disc? do you have another >player with dig. out? > > Kevin > > >Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com >Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ > >On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Dennis W. Leas wrote: > >> Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic >> >> I love it. >> >> Dennis Leas >> ----------------------------- >> dennis@mdbs.com >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MediaOne >> To: Loopers Delight >> Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM >> Subject: Non loop related- recorders >> >> >> Hi all- >> >> I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to about $300. >> >> I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in stereo- >> >> Thanks- >> >> Cliff >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 20:18:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31239; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:18:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:18:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Pafford X-Sender: todd@galen.dyn.ml.org To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EH16 inflation In-Reply-To: <37C3F31A.288E4F12@toddreynolds.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Ym1_j1.0.CH7.GWTnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Todd Reynolds wrote: > pardon my stupidity, an EH16 is what? > > todd reynolds > The Electro Harmonix 16 second delay. Apparently it's super groovy. --- "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite." -- William Blake Todd Pafford galen@erols.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 20:18:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31180; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:18:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:18:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Lovetone address Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 20:12:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <015401beef8f$3d7cbf60$85c0d6d1@oemcomputer> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"xJPhy3.0.i47.6VTnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just got my Ring Stinger a couple of weeks ago, so they are still in business. I offered Vlad my services to update the Web site, but he said that he was going to handle it himself. I guess he's busy making pedals. The e-mail address should work since I just corresponded with them last week. For those that haven't seen the Ring Stinger, it's the same size and layout as the Meatball/Doppelganger ... and it's PINK! BTW ... here's a press release from them ... © LOVETONE PEDALS... Ring Stinger ring modulator/fuzz octave doubler/repeater/dirt box/optical synth CLASSIC TRANSFORMER MATRIX MODULATOR (NOT THE UBIQUITOUS MODULATOR CHIP) FOR THAT DISTINCTIVE VINTAGE RING MOD SOUND & 60'S GERMANIUM DISTORTION klangs, bells, metallic fx, pseudo vocoder fx, dalek noises, sci-fi atmospherics, spooky warbling, trem arpeggios, tonal toggling, touch sensitive keying, pitch crossfiring, microtonal + atonal fx, evolving drones, digeridoo fx and not least the meanest graunchiest octave fuzz ever - and these are just for starters! Amazing on guitar, bass, keys, synths, drums, studio applications - anything at all in fact! Stunning in conjunction with the other pedals - especially in the Meatball loop! Featuring: * sine/triangle/sawtooth/square VCO with range down to LFO frequencies for repeater/gate fx * CV/external pedal input for VCO frequency * VCO insert point (VCO output available for creating unique synth noises - spooky!) * triangle/square wide-range LFO to modulate VCO frequency or VCO pulse width or octave drive! (goes up to audio frequencies for FM FX) * LFO depth control - don't knock it till you've heard it! * external pedal input for LFO amount - nice! * footswitch for LFO enable (handy - or is it footy?) * timbre control * blend contol (great for retaining bottom end on bass sounds - octave mode gives fat, edgy germanium distortion but with added bass!) * footswitch for ring mod/octave * light sensitive jack adaptor for Theremin-like fx or random ambience modulation (can also be used on Meatball, Doppelganger and Wobulator instead of passive volume pedal!) * Bypass footswitch We are currently offering the Ring Stinger at the amazing pre-order price of £259 MEATBALL The Meatball is an amazing new envelope follower/triggered filter - the funky blue alternative to a high fibre diet that has put a smile on a lot of faces! Because of the large number of controls, and because changing the position of any one affects the way in which the others will interact, this offers a truly vast array of sound possibilities (from the sublest effects to frightening untamed excesses!) and means that the Meatball can be "tuned in" to dance the most intimate tango without treading on your toes or just wave its arms in the air and let it all hang out. (The filter frequencies can also be tuned precisely to allow laser guided goosing of high gain distortion). While the Meatball is capable of the most gratuitous "auto-wah" funk abuse and visits the promised land of Bootsy "You won't need any spaghetti with this Meatball it's real phat" for fun, this represents but a mere fraction of its potential which includes totally unique new sounds. The large frequency and dynamic range makes it equally suitable for bass, guitar, keyboards/synths, samplers and general studio use - in fact any audio signal whether a single sound source or programme material. By treating simple waveforms it can become an analogue synth in its own right, or it can be used as an aural exciter to add sparkle and depth particularly to lifeless samples. The external trigger facility enables the filter to be triggered by a completely separate audio source which can be another instrument, pulse or click or even touching a lead connected to the input! A great way to exploit this is to use one aux send on your mixer for the sound source and another one for the trigger so you can literally trigger anything with anything which as you can imagine can give rise to some pretty freaky effects. Featuring: Sensitivity control. Attack and Decay controls. Range control (which doesn't affect the triggering) and can be used to fine-tune the frequency response and create subtle effects. Resonance control. Blend which mixes straight signal with effect creating a whole new palette of sounds. Pedal facility which allows the use of a standard passive volume pedal to create wah-type effects. FX loop - insert octaves and distortion for some real 70's cheese, or use for external trigger facility. Up and Down response curves. High, Low, and Band-pass filter modes. Four selectable filter frequency ranges. Triggering off full or half bandwidth and trigger off - useful for instance as a static tone control or for adding or scooping tone with blend. LED showing filter response. LED showing effect on/off. DOPPELGANGER The Doppelganger is a twin oscillator phaser/vibrato but being in the grand Lovetone tradition it offers a whole range of classic uses never previously available in one unit, as well as many new sounds. Its trademark is an unparalleled purity and transparency of tone and harmonic richness making it a real texture machine. The subtle yet ever-changing way the controls interact has a truly mesmerising effect which speaks directly to the sub-conscious mind (as well as the stoned mind!). It covers the whole spectrum from mellow and virtually subliminal, to Hendrix-y, to crunchy and chomping (reminiscent of the ubiquitous 70's phase sound), to swirling rotary-type fx. On more subtle settings (especially in vibrato mode) it gives movement and life to the sound without discernible processing and because it sounds so natural you can almost forget its there - until you switch it off! In less introvert moments it can warp sounds into multi-dimensional knots or whip up squeals and harmonics into a sci-fi frenzy. It never manages to sound sickly on any setting, and in fact makes an ideal replacement for all the sounds contained in the thesaurus of chorus as it provides plenty of width and attack definition but without the nauseating side effects. Vibrato mode has a very vibraphone-like modulation and is great for moody jazzers. It is also useful for creating spacial 3D stereo effects by panning the output opposite a straight feed off a mixer. As well as guitar and bass, the Doppelganger can of course be used on any instrument and works particularly well with classic keyboard sounds. Featuring: Two LFO's with Pedal facility for each. Span (depth) controls for low and high frequencies (which can either be driven individually by two LFO's or together by LFO 1). LED's showing filter status. Colour (resonance) control. Blend control. LFO 1/Dual LFO mode foot switch. Phase/Vibrato foot switch. True and Spectral (filtered) bypass modes. BROWN SOURCE *(see "CHEESE SOURCE" below) The Brown Source is pure overdrive and, as its name suggests, an instant flash-back to that dynamic, singing, BIG late 60's / early 70's brown sound that is associated with countless classic records spanning the whole musical spectrum. It offers unparalleled purity and touch sensitivity and an uncannily warm "valvey" grunt with the absence of the unnatural fizz associated with most overdrive pedals. There is also a very tangible sense of electricity (remember that!?) as it piles on the pylon factor. It responds extremely well to filter changes (producing a throaty "voice box" type distortion) and consequently works an absolute treat with a wah in front - and will make any new guitar sound 30 years older! Because of its large image size irrespective of volume, and natural communicative response it makes an ideal recording tool or "desert island" companion. Three classic ways to use the Brown Source with a guitar are for snap crackle and "pop" into a clean amp, dripping fat into a cooking amp and controlled feedback with singing harmonics into a driven amp. In the studio it can perform amazing transformations on the most unlikely time travellers, or blended in with the straight signal it can be used to add a touch of dirt to those unfashionable clean cut sounds! BIG CHEESE *(see "CHEESE SOURCE" below) The Big Cheese is a loving homage to the nasty, buzzy yet gorgeous and harmonically rich early fuzz. While having many of the classic characteristics that every fuzz fan will relate to it goes beyond to create an absolutely distinct character of its own. Its innovative and interactive controls can take it from almost "gated" break-up to overkill of shred proportions. Far from being just a guitar pedal however the Cheese is eminently useful for seeing to any sound with the temerity to be naff or boring (with particularly amusing consequences in the lower regions). To lovers of that extraordinary spectacle known to some as "furrrzze bass!" it offers terminally thunderous, ripping yet glitch-free and buttock-clenching mayhem that can only be described as Larry Graham on steroids (as demonstrated to devastating effect by the man himself!). The Big Cheese works exceptionally well in the fx loop of the Meatball creating some of the squelchiest curdled sounds ever - particularly true of the "cheese" setting which gives the signal huge dynamics thus cutting through a mix in a manner not unlike early analogue synths. Coupled in this way with an octaver it can perform an uncanny impersonation of a guitar synth with no delay or tracking worries. *CHEESE SOURCE The Big Cheese and Brown Source are no longer available. However, we have so many people asking for them and because they work together very well we are making a run of the Cheese Source, that will combine both fx (with identical circuitry as before) in a large format (same as Meatball size) case. The Cheese Source will have 2 footswitches, 2 inputs and outputs (although the "Cheese" output will be "normalised" into the "Source" input thus not requiring an external connection). It will also have LED's! Please see ordering info for details. WOBULATOR The Wobulator is a super-psychedelic twin-oscillator stereo tremolo/vibrato/panner and is as you would expect much more than an ordinary trem pedal. Although of course it is more than capable of mono trem effects such as those associated with classic amps it goes much further due to an abundance of modulation possibilities. Also, being stereo it can create numerous spatial effects either in the studio or with two classic amps - YES!! Its warm, smooth and flexible sound has made it a favourite mixdown tool for treating everything from drums to vocals not forgetting yer standard classics like guitar, electric piano etc. Featuring: stereo outputs 2 LFO's multiple waveforms 4 modulation modes sync facility pedal input special smooth sound! The Wobulator has 4 basic modes: 1 TREM - both Left and Right move up and down at the same time, but with a "cross-over" effect where Left is low pass filtered and Right is high pass filtered. 2 PAN - Left and Right move in anti-phase without a cross-over, akin to a normal "figure-of-eight" auto-panner. 3 VIB - same as TREM but in anti-phase, creating subtle phase cancellation (and therefore pitch and volume change) effects. 4 DUAL TREM - this again uses the cross-over but brings into play the second LFO. Left is now driven by LFO 1 and right by LFO 2. Each LFO has a Rate control and an option for Triangle or Square waveforms. (LFO 2 operates in a higher range and goes up to audio frequencies which creates some unusual if subtle frequency modulation effects.) The square waveform gives a "gated" effect which can get pretty weird in stereo. LFO 1 also has a Pedal input for controlling Rate (as on the Doppelganger) as well as a Trigger Input!! which resets the waveform each time it receives a suitable pulse or click. This feature can be used to sync the LFO to a particular tempo, or to create "burst" or "ramp" effects for example. Both Left and Right outputs each have a Depth control and an "Enable" footswitch. Disabling the modulation on either one so that the other is moving against the straight signal opens up a whole new world of rather scary sounds! All the above effects are available in mono where they are summed to one output. (If you only have one amp but with two contrasting inputs you can use both Wobulator outputs to really bend some sound!) ORDERING INFORMATION... LOVETONE PRODUCTS ARE ONLY AVAILABLE DIRECT BY MAIL ORDER SO DON'T BOTHER LOOKING ROUND YOUR LOCAL MUSIC STORES. MAIL ORDER IS EASY - WE SHIP STUFF TO THE U.S. ALL THE TIME!!! The pedals are built in small batches and there may be a waiting list. If this is the case then orders are accepted on a first come first served basis. CONTINUED AVAILABILITY OF PEDALS CANNOT BE GUARANTEED. All pedals come with a 12 month guarantee and because we only sell direct we also offer a money back guarantee. We will refund your money (less shipping) if not satisfied provided you return the goods within 10 days of receipt in original condition and in the original packaging. WE REQUIRE PAYMENT IN POUNDS STERLING (BRITISH POUNDS)!!!! (Please note - if you're paying by credit card it automatically gets converted at your end so there's no hassle.) Please refer below for prices of pedals and shipping to the USA and Canada. The current exchange rate is in the region of 1.65 US dollars to the pound. The APPROXIMATE dollar equivalents are given in brackets. THIS IS ONLY A ROUGH GUIDE and Lovetone cannot be held responsible for any fluctuations. Pedal Air Mail UPS (7-14 days) (1-2 days) Meatball 199 (328) 20 (33) 44 (73) Doppelganger 219 (361) 20 (33) 44 (73) Cheese Source 229 (378) 20 (33) 44 (73) Wobulator 239 (394) 20 (33) 44 (73) * PLEASE NOTE: The Cheese Source is not yet available. We are taking pre-orders which will operate, as usual, on a strictly first come first served basis with full payment up-front. Delivery is expected in Spring '99. Since the Brown Source and Big Cheese were phased out earlier this year there has been an ever increasing demand for these unique pedals. If you're interested please let us know as soon as possible - we anticipate that these won't hang around too long. Shipping for multiples of pedals is given in the table below. Air Mail UPS (7-14 days) (1-2 days) 2 30 (50) 57 (94) 3 36 (60) 66 (109) For any other quantities please ask for a quote. FOR THE LARGER QUANTITIES WE WOULD RECOMMEND UPS. PLEASE NOTE: ALL PAYMENT MUST BE IN POUNDS STERLING AND PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE. We accept Mastercard and Visa and American Express. Please forward your credit card number with expiry date, the card holders name and address, and a daytime telephone number. ALL GOODS MEST BE SHIPPED TO THE CARDHOLDER'S ADDRESS. International Money Orders/Bank Cheques should be made payable to Lovetone and sent by registed post for proof of delivery. For more information please contact: Lovetone P.O. Box 102 Henley-on-Thames Oxfordshire RG9 1XX England UK Tel/Fax: 011 44 1491 571411 e-mail: lovetone@channel.co.uk internet: http://www.channel.co.uk/lovetone For those of you that get confused about these things and want to phone us, we are 8 hours ahead of Western time and 5 hours ahead of Eastern time, so call before noon (your time) and you should get a result! Our web details may be changing in which case please contact us for details. REVIEW OVERVIEW... MEATBALL Tim Slater, "Guitarist" August '95: You really have to hear the Meatball to fully appreciate what it's capable of.. it's far, far more than a simple touch wah. The wah sounds themselves are about as low down and righteously funky as you could possibly get... the Meatball will easily do the 'quacking' sound of a touch wah unit. However, one thing that is really loved about the Meatball was its ability to perform an uncannily accurate impression of an ancient analogue synthesiser which opens up a hitherto unexplored world of fantastic sonic textures previously denied to guitarists, even by modern guitar synths and digital effects. When used with a little imagination, the possibilities seem virtually limitless. Adding an overdrive unit transforms the clean 'boops' and beeps' into some of the squelchiest, squidgiest sounds imaginable, like no effects pedal I've ever used before. It's really enlightening and inspiring to try out such an innovative, but fundamentally unintimidating device. Dave Burrluck, "The Guitar Magazine" Sept. '95: " - the 'Ball's numerous controls never seem to do the same thing twice! Think of any cheesy/great '70s funk or US TV theme and think swooshy, auto-wah guitar noises - just what the Meatball serves up. You can get many different flavours; from thick and very bassy to unbearably thin. Via the blend control (like an FX wet/dry) you can tailor the amount of 'corruption', brilliant for adding subtle (or intense) interest to high-gain solos." Peter Forrest, "The Mix" Nov. '95: "It may not be round, but it's certainly tasty. And the revolutionary Meatball stomp box is not just for guitar heroes." "Bootsy Collins effects are meat and drink to the Meatball." "The Meatball is a great-sounding filter, with really effective envelope following. It's got bucketloads of tweak potential, and can even turn a fairly static and ordinary-sounding instrument like a Roland MT32 into something that's inspirational to play - particularly with a velocity-sensitive master keyboard." Roger Newell, "Bassist" Feb. '96: "This is a very substantial, well built pedal...the considerable assemblage of controls is only surpassed by the range and manipulation that can be performed on the sound...the available sounds are really impressive and although the basic 'enveloping' effect tends to be dominant, the sonic potential around that is truly vast...if you are into experimenting then this will give you a field day." "So is the Meatball as valid for bass as it is for guitar? A most definite yes...the sounds are rich and full and capable of producing a sub bass feeling in the gut comparable to a Jumbo Jet taking off." "It's fun to use..but in the end some seriously funky vibes come leaping from your rig, er, man." Joe Gore, "Guitar Player" June '96: You can sum up the Meatball in three words: sick, sick, sick. The most common application of envelope-filter effects is the quacking auto-wah function that serenades you on records by Bootsy Collins and certain of today's retrominded funkateers. The Meatball renders such sounds splendidly - but is can also elicit many equally horrifying sounds that you probably never knew existed. It's a Pandora's box of twisted, tweezy tones... We're talking pig snorts, bird whistles and the dulcet sounds of the lower digestive tract. The pedal includes a brilliantly implemented loop... We patched a saturated distortion sound into the Meatball's effect-return jack and the output from a drum machine into the "in" jack for instant synchronized psycho-bleating. Next we plugged the big Cheese, set on "Swiss" (see above), into the send and returns. Words fail. Chris Everard, "DJ Technology" Oct. '96: -oozing, squeezed out, frequency sweeping lusciousness. Lovetone describe the Meatball as an 'Envelope follower/Triggered filter' capable of subtety and excess' - they're not wrong. This is just the ticket for making essentially 'flat' sounding samples of real synths sound more alive and perky. By adding a filter curve and oscillating resonance to a percussion track or bass, your songs all of a sudden come to life with undulating funky osmosis. Like the other Lovetone pedals the Meatball is very quiet and has a large enough bandwidth to be used creatively in a stereo mix. DOPPELGANGER Tim Slater, "Guitarist" March '96: If true vintage effects are what you're after, the Doppelganger truly delivers. You shouldn't find it a problem to recreate the evocative wash of a Uni-Vibe, the hard edge of an Electro-Harmonix Small Stone or an old MXR phaser unit with impressive accuracy and without a trace of the extraneous noise which plagued older pedals. Another point where the Doppelganger sidesteps older effects is that while its processing is very lush there remains a distinct transparency which lets your core tone through, instead of dominating everything in sight. Rarely has any single unit produced such an astonishing array of fascinating sounds...the Doppelganger ventures beyond the realms of mere nostalgia and deserves attention as a relevant piece of gear for today's guitarist. Roger Newell, "Bassist" April '96: The Doppelganger is pretty easy to master, so you are soon provided with a vast selection of sonic sweeping and pulsing effects... many of the sounds are so interesting it's easy to forget to use restraint. This is a super-quiet unit in operation, sturdily built, well-designed and above all a great deal of fun; like their Meatball, this is another well thought-out hybrid. Not only do they (Lovetone) provide the ability for total interaction between each pedal's internal effects, but positively encourage the chaining of other sound shapers for a truly cosmic experience. If you fancy a trip into the alternative sounds universe this could be a great place to start. Joe Gore, "Guitar Player" June '96: Lovetone's Doppelganger pedal can evoke subtle flavours reminiscent of, if not identical to, a Uni-Vibe. But like the other Lovetone gadgets, it goes to much kinkier extremes. According to Lovetone's ever-hilarious notes, "the subtle yet ever-changing way the controls interact has a truly mesmerizing effect which speaks to the sub-conscious mind as well as the stoned mind." No one on our staff condones the use of mind-altering substances or knows anyone who does, but the Doppelganger sounds so trippy that we can only surmise the manufacturer is telling the truth. Unlike some of the over-the-top '70s modulation effects of the sub-Mu-Tron variety, (it) maintains crystalline sound quality - the finely tuned color knob adds piquant, voice-like resonance to the lower range oscillator - (the) effect-blend knob lets you craft effects ranging from the near-subliminal coloration to "Pass the Dramamine!." Another surprise is the vibrato mode, which is akin to a Uni-Vibe's but more smooth, musical, and just plain usable. Chris Everard, "DJ Technology" Oct. '96: The Doppelganger is a metamorphosing phaser capable of 'down the drain pipe' hollow, sucked out midrange sweeping phase shifts which keep the input source warping and weaving into a blue haze of swirling tonal variety. The Doppelganger can turn vocal tracks inside out and is also good at providing a transparent, rotating speaker effect to sustained keyboard sounds. The Doppelganger is ideal for thickening up atmospheric backdrops on amdient grooves and dream house tunes - used to its lethal maximum, with the LFO speed turned fully clockwise, it does a good impersonation of a tremelo pedal in a centrifuge. BROWN SOURCE Tim Slater, "Guitarist" March '96: Described by some as "Keef In A Box', but I wouldn't rule out Billy Gibbons and ZZ Top either! The Brown Source is a fascinating device. I would really recommend that any player serious about putting together a set-up with the aim of finding some truly beautiful, responsive and classic overdrive sounds would do well to consider the Brown Source as part of the overall equation. Put your mind to it and the thing will produce some of the swampiest, low-down raunch ever...and when you reach that certain point where you can hold a note and it just sings; that's when the Brown Source proves itself as a happening piece of kit...the player, instrument, pedal and amp all have their part to play in achieving this musical alchemy, rather than just cranking the gain to maximum, at the expense of a truly happening tone. Joe Gore, "Guitar Player" June '96: The Brown Source may be the most subtle overdrive pedal we've encountered. While it excels at lower-gain sounds reminiscent of early-'70s rock, it has an extraordinarily transparent open voicing. The Brown Source doesn't force a sonic agenda on your tone. It's ideal for adding a bit of grind while retaining the color of a great guitar/amp combination. It would, for example, be perfect with a fine old non-channel-switching amp. Well done. Chris Everard, "DJ Technology" October '96: "Billed as the overdrive pedal that 'makes any guitar sound 30 years older', the Brown Source gives that bassy, low down chunky sound of Hendrix-style creamy distortion. It's capable of creating a big 'stadium' sound at low volumes and has enough variability to recreate everything from raw edged, fuzzy Motorhead noises (even with a banjo), to mellow, dreamscape, ambrosia overdrive. Patching staccato-like, short decay arpeggios and percussion allows you to take the backing track from a clean sound with a seductive hint of a fuzzy edge to scary, sustained distortion which goes insane when anything with reverb is added to the input. You can combine the Brown Source with a wah wah pedal to give you awsome synth textures - enabling you to tweak the tone and 'drive' - or with a sequencer for scary overdriven raspiness." BIG CHEESE Richard Bailey, Fuzz Pedals Round Up "Total Guitar" April '96: A great pedal with a fantastic personality, hand-made with cool '70s styling. The Big Cheese has four distortion modes, plus tone and gain. Played hard it has an unusual squashed sound, bags of gain and an extra something they call 'Whey' but I call 'Balls'. Design-wise it's got a metal case with ace flip top design for tool-free battery changing. Best of all are the incredible range of fuzz tones from razor smooth to short 'n' curly. A future classic. Tim Slater, "Guitarist" March '96: It almost goes without saying that the Big Cheese lives up to its name, but merely describing this pedal as a vintage fuzz tone is really doing it an injustice. The only real problem is that you've got so much distortion on tap that it's frighteningly easy for affairs to get quickly out of hand.The scooped sounds in Position 1 are an ideal starting point for tapping into some surprisingly up-to-date modern metal or thrash sounds; even from a pedal which claims to have its roots firmly planted in decades gone by. The distortion is very good indeed; there's a lot of it, but the overdrive is big and bulging with rich harmonics...in Preset 2, where the fuller, more midrangey sound can be honed and buffed up into a beautiful overdrive; warm and fat in the centre and buttery and smooth as a baby's bot on the outside. Although the Electro-Harmonix Big Muff shares this uncompromising delivery...the Cheese's superior tone controls give it the edge over its illustrious predecessor. The Cheese setting brings us to the edge of the abyss - abandon all hope ye who enter! As the Curds level is increased the sound breaks up more and more until it finally gives in, uttering a chilling crackle like that of an amp or speaker going through its final death throes - horrid. The Big Cheese really exists in a different league from most...the build quality is excellent...it is remarkably sensitive and responsive to changes in volume and tone from the guitar itself...it seems to become like and extension of the instrument itself. A remarkable device in every respect. Joe Gore, "Guitar Player" June '96: >From it facetiously labeled controls... to its absurdly over-the-top tones, this gadget drips attitude. Mode 1 elicits a bludgeoning punkoid tone with fizzy highs, scooped mids, and thunderous bottom. Mode 2 is a pointier flavour with buzz-saw mids. And the third setting - illustrated by a drawing of a wedge of Swiss - literally deconstructs your sound. What a bargain - ordinarily you have to break something to get a tone this cool. But despite its demented edge, the Big Cheese is remarkably responsive. Its tone controls interact with those of your guitar in complex, subtle ways. The curds control, for example, takes on entirely different characters as you roll back your volume pot. Still, the pedal's subtlest setting are pretty extreme... Chris Everard, "DJ Technology" Oct. '96: Dedicated to making that classic guitar Fuzz sound, the Lovetone Big Cheese can be inserted in the FX loop of the Meatball to make the filter ramp up into honking electronic fizziness. The 'Curds' and 'Whey' knobs are most welcome for stretching the brittle edge out of bass synth patches. WOBULATOR Jim Matthews, "The Guitar Magazine" Feb. '99: Lovers of traditional trem effects are going to have a field day in Tremulant mode. From slow, soft pulses to fast, hard gate effects the Wobulator is always in control. Parameter control is extremely wide and even the most ardent tremolo fans will be catered for. Vibrato mode's pitch changabilty allows everything from subtle chorusing to altogether more violent detuning effects, with a lovely watery vibe to clean arpeggios and chord sweeps that will have you seriously considering adopting some crushed velvet flares. In Panner mode the Wobulator again does exactly as you'd wish from slow sweeping movements to hard ping-pong effects. Nothing, however, prepares you for whats in store when Dual Trem kicks in - with full control over each channel... Dual Trem pretty much rewrites the tremolo rule bok. Yes, it can get rather scary and confusing... but a little time and thought can create some startling results. I've always loved trem effects...so, for me, using the Wobulator was much like discovering the Holy Grail. With amps spread only a matter of feet the wall of sound is massive; through a PA it would sound magnificent. The Lovetone Wobulator is probably the ultimate trelmolo. If you've heard the name of Lovetone being bandied around in tones of almost hushed reverence, believe me, on the strength of this pedal they deserve it. LOVETONE USERS INCLUDE... The Animals DG/BS/BC Howie B (Prod. U2) MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Beastie Boys MB/BC The Beautiful South MB/DG/BS/BC Blur MB/BC Boo Radleys BC Bootsy Collins MB/DG/BS/BC Tim Bran (Dreadzone, Res Rocket Surfer) MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Cast MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Coldcut MB/WL Norman Cook MB/WL Corduroy MB/BC Crash Test Dummies MB Chris Difford MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Billy Duffy MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Mike Gordon (Phish) MB Larry Graham MB/BC Trey Gunn (King Crimson) MB Steve Hackett MB/BC Mike Hedges (Prod. Manic St. Preachers/McAlmont & Butler) MB/BC Nellee Hooper MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Ernie Isley MB/DG/BC James BC Chris Kimsey (Prod. Rolling Stones/INXS) MB/DG/BS/BC Daniel Kortchmar (Prod. Don Henley/Billy Joel/Spin Doctors) MB/BCBS/WL Kula Shaker MB Steve Levine DG/BC Lo-Fidelity Allstars MB Fred Maher (Prod. Lou Reed, Scritti Politti, Lloyd Cole) MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Mansun MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Johnny Marr MB/DG/BS/BC/WL J. Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.) MB/DG/BS/BC Skip McDonald (Little Axe) MB/DG/BC Metallica MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Gary Moore BS/BC/WL Morcheeba MB/DG/BC Alan Moulder (Prod. Smashing Pumpkins/Curve/Elastica/9" Nails) MB/BC/WL My Bloody Valentine MB/DG/BS/BC Oasis MB William Orbit MB Jimmy Page MB/DG/BC/WL Pino Palladino MB Placebo BC Pulp MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Radiohead MB/DG/BC/WL Tony Remy MB Paul Schroeder (Prod. Verve/Stone Roses/Dodgy/Cast) MB/BC Will Sergeant MB/DG/BC Adrian Sherwood (On-U Sound) MB Simple Minds MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Nikki Sixx MB/DG/BC/WL Sonic Boom (Spacemen 3, EAR) MB/DG/BC/WL Sonic Youth MB/DG/BS/BC/WL Stereolab MB/WL Dave Stewart MB/DG/BS/BC Supergrass BC/WL Matthew Sweet MB/DG/BS/BC Chris Tsangarides MB/DG/BC/WL Doug Wimbish MB/BS/BC Geoff Whitehorn (Paul Rogers, The Who) DG/BS ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS... Lovetone has a non-endorsement policy and we would like to thank all those listed above who allowed us to use their names purely out of goodwill. There are also a significant number of world renowned names missing from the list who we have not contacted yet. © Lovetone 1999 -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Walters [mailto:ew37@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:50 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Lovetone address Why hasn't the Lovetone site ever been updated?? I hear all about these cool new units (Ring Stinger, etc) but there are no mention of these on the site. I can't even send mail to the address listed. Have they relocated and I just missed out?? MicahH From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Aug 26 22:53:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03421; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:53:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:53:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "nicholas konopka" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Message-Id: <935721077.22497.92@excite.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:31:17 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 216.41.28.61 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"BzmwJ.0.YZ7.-XVnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For recording shows i use a Tascam DAP-1 and AKG sterio mic, and have patch cords to plug into the board, if possible. Nick.. ________________________________________________________________ Get FREE voicemail, fax and email at http://voicemail.excite.com Talk online at http://voicechat.excite.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 09:33:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04560; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:33:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:33:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990827004230.006b055c@email.aon.at> X-Sender: aon.912027787@email.aon.at X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:53:21 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: haeusle Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"BqlNQ.0.v06.aQent"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com YES! i think this is one of the best ways (in the lower price range!) to record live shows. the mic doesn't sound bad at all. we use a kenwood md-recorder (portable) which gives us the ability to record mono. i don't know if the sharp md-recorder has the same feature, but i guess so. advantage: in case that a show takes longer than the 70something minutes, there's enough space left on the md. lorenz At 13:24 26.08.99 -0500, you wrote: >>>> Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic I love it. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne < To: Loopers Delight < Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Non loop related- recorders Arial Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to about $300. I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in stereo- Thanks- size=2>Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 09:40:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05997; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:40:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:40:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C64DC0.5F25@ithacastring.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:35:12 +0000 From: Eric Aceto Reply-To: eric@ithacastring.com Organization: Ithaca Stringed Instruments X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders References: <3.0.32.19990827004230.006b055c@email.aon.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"PyO6x3.0.gw7.Sxent"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live > shows- it needs to be small and stereo- I'm lovin my Sony MRZ-55 mini disk recorder. I use a stereo condensor mic I made from parts available at www.digikey.com Sounds great and it's wonderfully editable. regards, Eric -- drop on by for a visit http://www.ithacastring.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 10:33:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18213; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:33:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:33:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:48:35 EDT Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"x8sAn2.0.G02.PTfnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For recording a show live, I use a Korg D-8 digital 8-track with an AT 4033. (I use just two tracks). ;-) Bill "hawkeye" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 11:10:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27327; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:10:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:10:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: dfx91 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"21ILJ.0.VT4.b6gnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Was wonderin if anyone had any specs the DOD dfx91 - small 1 sec delay/sampler as I heard. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 11:15:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29002; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:15:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:15:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990827095939.00875c20@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:59:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders In-Reply-To: <001601beefec$eac12780$84c656d1@cliff> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"VPOv31.0.9Y6.Hcgnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:00 AM 8/26/99 -0700, you wrote: > Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record >live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what >type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for >private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- >price range up to about $300. The Sharp model 702 minidisc recorder is easy to use for direct feeds off a mixer. I don't recall there being a mic input, however. I suppose one could try to input a stereo mic with 1/8" plug into the "line in" and see what happens. . . . The Sony WM-D3 recordable walkman cassette comes with a remote stereo microphone, and has Dolby B noise reduction, mic and line inputs, and frequency response up to 16khz. Retail is $269.00, but one can sometimes find them (a little bit rare) for $199.00 or $209.00. I currently have one on order and will let you know how it works out. I've heard the results of one, and they're not bad at all. If my memory serves, Wayne Krantz's CD "Two Drink Minimum" was recorded at a New York jazz club with one of those, but I may be wrong. Hope this helps. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 11:26:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31910; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:26:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:26:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:54:05 -0400 (EDT) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199908271454.KAA29831@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"l2aG12.0.bj5.dQgnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "EMUSIC," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #129 August 26, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Belgian atmospheric musician and his collaborations. The feature CD at midnight was his collaboration with Steve Roach, Ascension of Shadow on the Projekt label. The Somewhere else CD of this three CD masterpiece was featured. Vidna Obmana : http://www.vidnaobmana.org Steve Roach : http:/www.steveroach.com EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================= 11:00 pm Interview with Vidna Obmana underscored by the following three songs. V. Obmana & S. Roach Heart of the Tempest Live concert at Alfa Centauri V. Obmana & S. Roach The Nexus Place 5, Nov.97, Huizen, The V. Obmana & S. Roach Mission Ground * Netherlands Cosmic Hoffman Beyond the Galaxy Beyond the Galaxy (Heart&Mind) Kudzu & Michael Lococo Night of the Circus Absinthe (Treecastle) Mark Sarno String Theory Dark Matter (Session Artists) David Helping Rain Falls Sleeping on the Edge of Shadows (Spotted Peccary) 12:00 am V. Obmana & S. Roach Somewhere Else Ascension of Shadows (Projekt) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will begin a month-long focus on Utah musician Robert Carty. This unsigned artist deserves widespread recognition. The Feature CD at Midnight will be Darklight. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 11:47:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05178; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:47:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:47:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990827100331.0087f100@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:03:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders In-Reply-To: References: <035501beeff0$4b514780$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"QKjTk2.0.0j6.rfgnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 03:45 PM 8/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >How do you get the audio out of your Sharp 702 mini disc? do you have another >player with dig. out? > > Kevin The 1/8" stereo headphone output (which, by the way, can be used without the stupid little remote control) doubles as a stereo line out. At Radio Shack, you can get all the adaptors and y-connectors you need. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 12:08:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11276; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:08:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:08:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:45:23 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, myoder@tamiu.edu Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Resent-Message-ID: <"Dk_3w.0.RH1.zBhnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> "Michael S. Yoder" 08/27 8:13 AM >>> At 11:00 AM 8/26/99 -0700, you wrote: >> Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to about $300. > The Sharp model 702 minidisc recorder is easy to use for direct feeds off a mixer. I don't recall there being a mic input, however. I suppose one could try to input a stereo mic with 1/8" plug into the "line in" and see what happens. . . . There are indeed line in as well as mic in jacks... > The Sony WM-D3 recordable walkman cassette comes with a remote stereo microphone, and has Dolby B noise reduction, mic and line inputs, and frequency response up to 16khz. Retail is $269.00, but one can sometimes find them (a little bit rare) for $199.00 or $209.00. I currently have one on order and will let you know how it works out. I've heard the results of one, and they're not bad at all. If my memory serves, Wayne Krantz's CD "Two Drink Minimum" was recorded at a New York jazz club with one of those, but I may be wrong. As I write this, I have the Sony WM-D3 on my desk right next to my Sharp 702 and am dubbing from older jam cassettes onto minidisc. No comparison! I'm so tired of searching through piles of cassettes and speeding backwards and forwards looking for stuff... With the minidisc you say goodbye to all of that. Track titling is cosmic not to mention being able to move pieces around, divide them and combine them! The sound is great and way above cassette audio quality. NO CONTEST. I also have the mic which came with the WM-D3 and it definitely is useful for a variety of uses although I usually get much better results taking a feed from the board. All that said, the WM-D3 IS a NICE cassette recorder but it's just not in the same league as the nicer minidisc recorders... best regards, Miko Biffle From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 13:23:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29901; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:23:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:23:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001001bef0ab$cb5260c0$1ac856d1@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Non Loop Rel- Recorders Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:47:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF071.1CEB35A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"Cfmi_3.0.r35.V2int"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF071.1CEB35A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all-=20 I want to thank everyone who responded to my question regarding the = portable recorder I was looking for- after reading everyone's = suggestions and doing a little research I opted to buy the Sharp 702 = from shopping.com. I just received my first secure credit card (what a = curious name for a credit card!) and used it right away! I am going to = put the md recorder to serious use- personal ideas, rehearsals, gigs, = live shows, environmental recordings to use in my music etc. I will look = forward to having some new and more thourough offerings on my website = soon after! Thanks everyone! Clifford ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF071.1CEB35A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I want to thank everyone who = responded to my=20 question regarding the portable recorder I was looking for- after = reading=20 everyone's suggestions and doing a little research I opted to buy the = Sharp 702=20 from shopping.com. I just received my first secure credit card (what a = curious=20 name for a credit card!) and used it right away! I am going to put the = md=20 recorder to serious use- personal ideas, rehearsals, gigs, live shows,=20 environmental recordings to use in my music etc. I will look forward to = having=20 some new and more thourough offerings on my website soon = after!
 
Thanks everyone!
 
Clifford
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEF071.1CEB35A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 13:21:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29511; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:21:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:21:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001e01bef0ac$cf41f500$1ac856d1@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Vortex/MD Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:54:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEF072.2233A320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"N4jHY1.0.6Q5.J9int"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEF072.2233A320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all-=20 Anyone know if Lexicon will still do repairs on a Vortex? I need to get = mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's not a big problem but I can't = seem to fix it myself-=20 Also, where has everyone found the cheapest place to purchase blank MD = media? Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEF072.2233A320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all-
 
Anyone know if Lexicon will still do = repairs on=20 a Vortex? I need to get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's not a = big=20 problem but I can't seem to fix it myself-
 
Also, where has everyone found the = cheapest=20 place to purchase blank MD media?
 
Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEF072.2233A320-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 13:33:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00422; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:33:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:33:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:17:26 EDT Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"WjxMO.0.6w6.ZXint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 25/08/99 21:32:15 GMT Daylight Time, Kriist@aol.com writes: > but you just take 2 jewlers scewdrivers and attach the tips with alligator > clips and wire and your set > just test points around the circuit board to see what it does, your find > worlds of sounds!! Also a good way to burn out transistors (unfortunately) How'd you get away with it? Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 13:36:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01146; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:36:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:36:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <3b00f48f.24f82224@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:17:24 EDT Subject: Re: lexicon To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"kNQmr1.0.qv6.XXint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 26/08/99 05:26:51 GMT Daylight Time, perihelion.1@excite.com writes: > pair of footswitches that go > with the Lexicon Vortex? the footswitch Lex use is identical to one made by Rean. (i.e. thats probably where Lex buy them ) except you need to open it up to change from latching to non-latching. (using pointed pliers) as described in an earlier posting. in UK these are sold by Maplin Electronics , who do mail order to anywhere. Much cheaper than getting them from Lex Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 13:36:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01041; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:36:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:36:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908271716.KAA14816@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:16:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Vortex/MD From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3018601015_4760782_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <"O1cN82.0.lt6.rWint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3018601015_4760782_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A while back (probably two years) I asked Lex about repairs, and AT THAT TIME they said that repairs were a flat fee of $95. I'd contact them via their website to update that info. TH ---------- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Subject: Vortex/MD Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 11:54 AM Hi all- Anyone know if Lexicon will still do repairs on a Vortex? I need to get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's not a big problem but I can't seem to fix it myself- Also, where has everyone found the cheapest place to purchase blank MD media? Cliff --MS_Mac_OE_3018601015_4760782_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Vortex/MD A while back (probably two years) I asked Lex about repairs, and AT THAT TI= ME they said that repairs were a flat fee of $95.  I'd contact them via= their website to update that info.

TH

----------
From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
To: Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Vortex/MD
Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 11:54 AM


Hi all-
 
Anyone know if Lexicon will still do repairs on a Vortex? I = need to get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's not a big problem but = I can't seem to fix it myself-
 
Also, where has everyone found the cheapest place to purchas= e blank MD media?
 
Cliff

--MS_Mac_OE_3018601015_4760782_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 13:38:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01951; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:38:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:38:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Vortex/MD Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:26:32 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEF076.A1FA86B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <001e01bef0ac$cf41f500$1ac856d1@cliff> Resent-Message-ID: <"I6Zsp3.0.VG7.gbint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEF076.A1FA86B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes they will. $100 flat fee. Go to their site. bIz -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 9:54 AM To: Loopers Delight Subject: Vortex/MD Hi all- Anyone know if Lexicon will still do repairs on a Vortex? I need to get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's not a big problem but I can't seem to fix it myself- Also, where has everyone found the cheapest place to purchase blank MD media? Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEF076.A1FA86B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes=20 they will. $100 flat fee. Go to their site.
 
bIz
 
-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne=20 [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Friday, August 27, = 1999 9:54=20 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject:=20 Vortex/MD

Hi all-
 
Anyone know if Lexicon will still = do repairs=20 on a Vortex? I need to get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's = not a big=20 problem but I can't seem to fix it myself-
 
Also, where has everyone found the = cheapest=20 place to purchase blank MD media?
 
Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01BEF076.A1FA86B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 14:07:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09535; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:07:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:07:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01e701bef0b4$04d68620$162a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Elaine Walters" , "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: Cuccurullo loops Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:35:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"R7HOY.0.f-.Axint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I heard that Warren C. did some solo releases a few years back. The terms "ambient" and "self-indulgent" were bandied about, which means I might love them. Any comments, criticisms, dialogues, do-a-logs? And why does MicahH work under the pseudonym Elaine Walters, and vice versa? Or is this none of my cold-nosed business, and poor nettiquette to boot? Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us >Thought I might mention that I caught Duran Duran last weekend. Warren >Cuccurullo (guitar player for those not in the know) unleashed some nice >bits of looped mayhem with a couple of Jammans (and LOADS of fx). Nice >stuff from that guy. > >MicahH > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 14:07:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09529; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:07:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:07:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007001bef0b4$4af1e960$02585858@timspc> From: "american qabalah" To: References: <3.0.32.19990827004230.006b055c@email.aon.at> <37C64DC0.5F25@ithacastring.com> Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:47:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"0VxQ71.0.Ez.4xint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, the Sony MZR55CG minidisc recorder is listing in MARS music for $299.00. That's in your price range of up to $300. It looks bitchin'. www.marsmusic.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Aceto To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 3:35 AM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders > > Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live > > shows- it needs to be small and stereo- > > I'm lovin my Sony MRZ-55 mini disk recorder. I use a stereo condensor > mic I made from parts available at www.digikey.com > Sounds great and it's wonderfully editable. > regards, > Eric > -- > drop on by for a visit > http://www.ithacastring.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 14:08:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10237; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:08:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:08:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01e801bef0b4$0732c5a0$162a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Dennis W. Leas" , Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:43:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_019A_01BEF092.1B7E3520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"X5jrJ2.0.S_.Lxint"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_019A_01BEF092.1B7E3520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And how much is the MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live recording = gear m'self> Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via Sony = ECM-727P stereo mic =20 I love it. =20 Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Hi all-=20 =20 I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live = shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what = type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for = private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it = anyway- price range up to about $300. =20 I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound = quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there = is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in = stereo-=20 =20 Thanks-=20 =20 Cliff=20 ------=_NextPart_000_019A_01BEF092.1B7E3520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And how = much is the=20 MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live recording gear=20 m'self>
Douglas = Baldwin, Alpha=20 male Coyote, the Trickster
dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us=
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Dennis W. Leas <dennis@mdbs.com>
To: = Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com=20 <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Non = loop=20 related- recorders

Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; = either direct=20 from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic
 
I love it.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
= To:=20 Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: Non = loop=20 related- recorders

Hi all-
 
I wanted to get a consensus = on what=20 everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and = stereo-=20 Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all find = that=20 works well? I need to record for private listening only- so I = don't need=20 dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to about=20 $300.
 
I currently use a mini = casette recorder=20 that is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape rolled = smoothly it=20 would be better but there is flutter in most cheap mini casette = players=20 it seems- and none in stereo- 
 
Thanks- 
 
Cliff 
= ------=_NextPart_000_019A_01BEF092.1B7E3520-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 14:36:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17744; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:36:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:36:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003201bef0b8$b359ad40$1ac856d1@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:19:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEF07E.05CCB580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"9yx7M3.0.h03.7Pjnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEF07E.05CCB580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 199.00 minus a 50 dollar rebate=3D 150 plus shipping- after rebate- it's = a nice deal-=20 -----Original Message----- From: K. Douglas Baldwin To: Dennis W. Leas ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com = Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 And how much is the MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live = recording gear m'self> Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us =20 -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com = Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via = Sony ECM-727P stereo mic =20 I love it. =20 Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Hi all-=20 =20 I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record = live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and = what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to = record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant = afford it anyway- price range up to about $300. =20 I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad = sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but = there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none = in stereo-=20 =20 Thanks-=20 =20 Cliff=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEF07E.05CCB580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
199.00 minus a 50 dollar rebate=3D = 150 plus=20 shipping- after rebate- it's a nice deal-
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 K. Douglas Baldwin <dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us= >
To:=20 Dennis W. Leas <dennis@mdbs.com>; Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com=20 <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Friday, August 27, 1999 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: Non loop = related- recorders

And = how much is the=20 MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live recording gear=20 m'self>
Douglas Baldwin,=20 Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster
dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us=
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Dennis W. Leas <dennis@mdbs.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com=20 <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Non = loop=20 related- recorders

Sharp Minidisc model = MD-MS702; either=20 direct from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic
 
I love it.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
= To:=20 Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: Non = loop=20 related- recorders

Hi all-
 
I wanted to get a = consensus on what=20 everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and = stereo-=20 Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all = find that=20 works well? I need to record for private listening only- so = I don't=20 need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to = about=20 $300.
 
I currently use a mini = casette=20 recorder that is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape = rolled=20 smoothly it would be better but there is flutter in most = cheap mini=20 casette players it seems- and none in = stereo- 
 
Thanks- 
 
Cliff 
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BEF07E.05CCB580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 14:37:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17921; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:37:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:37:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <8521d322.24f832d2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:28:34 EDT Subject: Re: Headrush (or any delay)modification idea?? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"2FpVE.0.Bt3.tZjnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i suppose luck you could call it though will all the connections in these things, the probability of find the 'bad' ones are close to nill and besides, you use some common sense if you make a connection that kills the sound or makes something freakout(other than the sound)then stop it immediately and dont do that one again ive yet to fry anything rodrigo In a message dated 8/27/99 1:33:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SoundFNR@aol.com writes: > > Also a good way to burn out transistors (unfortunately) > > How'd you get away with it? > > Andy Butler > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 14:49:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA21378; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:49:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:49:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990827181128.12551.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: mt@motiontek.com Subject: echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"wgyRs3.0.2s2.KLjnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey - The echoplex is back on Zzounds, but for the old (high) price of $579 + 99 for the pedal. Is it time yet for us to resend that list of buyers to Oberheim and see what they have to say? As of next week August is over, and a previous message from Kim seemed to assert that they had said they would be shipping in August for a lower price. as an aside - that ring Stinger sounds pretty hip. How does it stack up vs. the EH Microsynth? MT PS: Anyone playing in NYC this weekend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:04:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25565; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:04:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:04:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003601bef0be$1d4eab60$9f0a0118@lakwod1.co.home.com> From: "Russell" To: References: <19990827181128.12551.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: echoplex Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:58:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF08B.D2158A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"yEtls3.0.be5.Bzjnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF08B.D2158A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sweet! I was just about to put a $650.00 bid on a used one on EBay! You saved = me.=20 Does anyone know where these new units came from? Are they newly = produced? Do they still use 30 pin SIMMS? I'll write zzounds and ask them I guess. Peace Russell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MamaSutra's playing at Herman's again on September 1st !!! Check out www.mamasutra.com for details ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ********* "A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon=20 without springs - jolted by every pebble in the road." Henry Ward Beecher ********* ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M T=20 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com=20 Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:11 PM Subject: echoplex Hey - The echoplex is back on Zzounds, but for the old (high) price of $579 + = 99 for the pedal. Is it time yet for us to resend that list of buyers to = Oberheim and see what they have to say? As of next week August is over, and a = previous message from Kim seemed to assert that they had said they would be = shipping in August for a lower price.=20 as an aside - that ring Stinger sounds pretty hip. How does it stack up = vs. the EH Microsynth? MT PS: Anyone playing in NYC this weekend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF08B.D2158A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sweet!
I was just about to put a = $650.00 bid on=20 a used one on EBay! You saved me.
Does anyone know where these = new units=20 came from? Are they newly produced? Do they still use 30 pin = SIMMS?
I'll write zzounds and ask = them I=20 guess.
Peace
Russell
 
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MamaSutra's=20 playing at Herman's again on September 1st !!!
Check out www.mamasutra.com for=20 details
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*********
"A person without a = sense of=20 humor is like a wagon
without springs - jolted by every pebble in = the=20 road."
          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;         =20 Henry Ward Beecher
*********
----- Original Message -----=20
From: M T
Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:11 PM
Subject: echoplex


Hey -

The echoplex is back on Zzounds, but for = the old=20 (high) price of $579 + 99 for
the pedal.  Is it time yet for us = to=20 resend that list of buyers to Oberheim and
see what they have to = say? =20 As of next week August is over, and a previous
message from Kim = seemed to=20 assert that they had said they would be shipping in
August for a = lower price.=20

as an aside - that ring Stinger sounds pretty hip.  How = does it=20 stack up vs.
the EH Microsynth?

MT

PS:  Anyone = playing in=20 NYC this = weekend?
__________________________________________________
Do=20 You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01BEF08B.D2158A60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:19:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29664; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:19:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:19:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:04:33 EDT Subject: Re: Cuccurullo loops To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"1DL6_3.0.NH6.u5knt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/26/99 3:22:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ew37@bellsouth.net writes: > > Thought I might mention that I caught Duran Duran last weekend. Warren > Cuccurullo (guitar player for those not in the know) unleashed some nice > bits of looped mayhem with a couple of Jammans (and LOADS of fx). Nice > stuff from that guy. > going to see them tonight....can't wait brian electric bird noise sound samples etc at: http://members.aol.com/ebnoise/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:17:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29146; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:17:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:17:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <04fa01bef0bc$df437310$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Vortex/MD Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:49:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_04F7_01BEF092.F62EB460" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"k5iLa2.0.Mw5.U0knt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_04F7_01BEF092.F62EB460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I get my blank MDs from http://www.minidisco.com/ at about $2 apiece. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:27 PM Subject: Vortex/MD =20 =20 Hi all-=20 =20 Anyone know if Lexicon will still do repairs on a Vortex? I need to = get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's not a big problem but I = can't seem to fix it myself-=20 =20 Also, where has everyone found the cheapest place to purchase blank = MD media? =20 Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_04F7_01BEF092.F62EB460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I get my blank MDs from http://www.minidisco.com/ at = about $2=20 apiece.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
= To:=20 Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Friday, August 27, 1999 12:27 PM
Subject:=20 Vortex/MD

Hi all-
 
Anyone know if Lexicon will = still do repairs=20 on a Vortex? I need to get mine fixed- it's a bummer b/c I know it's = not a=20 big problem but I can't seem to fix it myself-
 
Also, where has everyone found = the cheapest=20 place to purchase blank MD media?
 
Cliff
------=_NextPart_000_04F7_01BEF092.F62EB460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:18:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29488; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:18:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:18:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <050901bef0bd$22f24320$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: "K. Douglas Baldwin" , Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:51:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0506_01BEF093.39D769F0" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"pNEh3.0.226.W2knt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0506_01BEF093.39D769F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got mine through http://www.minidisco.com/ for about $200. I think = Miko got his through shopping.com (sp?) for about the same. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: K. Douglas Baldwin To: Dennis W. Leas ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com = Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 12:45 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 And how much is the MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live = recording gear m'self> Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us =20 -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com = Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via = Sony ECM-727P stereo mic =20 I love it. =20 Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Non loop related- recorders =20 =20 Hi all-=20 =20 I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record = live shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and = what type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to = record for private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant = afford it anyway- price range up to about $300. =20 I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad = sound quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but = there is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none = in stereo-=20 =20 Thanks-=20 =20 Cliff=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0506_01BEF093.39D769F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I got mine through http://www.minidisco.com/ for = about=20 $200.  I think Miko got his through shopping.com (sp?) for about = the=20 same.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 K. Douglas Baldwin <dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us= >
To:=20 Dennis W. Leas <dennis@mdbs.com>; Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com=20 <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Friday, August 27, 1999 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Non loop = related- recorders

And = how much is the=20 MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live recording gear=20 m'self>
Douglas Baldwin,=20 Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster
dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us=
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Dennis W. Leas <dennis@mdbs.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com=20 <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Non = loop=20 related- recorders

Sharp Minidisc model = MD-MS702; either=20 direct from board or via Sony ECM-727P stereo mic
 
I love it.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: MediaOne <clifsound@mediaone.net>
= To:=20 Loopers Delight <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM
Subject: Non = loop=20 related- recorders

Hi all-
 
I wanted to get a = consensus on what=20 everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and = stereo-=20 Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic do you all = find that=20 works well? I need to record for private listening only- so = I don't=20 need dat plus I cant afford it anyway- price range up to = about=20 $300.
 
I currently use a mini = casette=20 recorder that is pretty bad sound quality- if only the tape = rolled=20 smoothly it would be better but there is flutter in most = cheap mini=20 casette players it seems- and none in = stereo- 
 
Thanks- 
 
Cliff 
<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0506_01BEF093.39D769F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:36:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02511; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:36:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:36:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a601bef0c0$05394920$5a05020a@beelzejuice.mecasw.com> From: "Ken M" To: Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:11:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"Synh41.0.Aj6.tBknt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A friend of mine has 2 of them he takes to shows and records live.. They're awesome. -----Original Message----- From: american qabalah To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, August 27, 1999 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders >Yeah, the Sony MZR55CG minidisc recorder is listing in MARS music for $299.00. >That's in your price range of up to $300. It looks bitchin'. >www.marsmusic.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Eric Aceto >To: >Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 3:35 AM >Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders > > >> > Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live >> > shows- it needs to be small and stereo- >> >> I'm lovin my Sony MRZ-55 mini disk recorder. I use a stereo condensor >> mic I made from parts available at www.digikey.com >> Sounds great and it's wonderfully editable. >> regards, >> Eric >> -- >> drop on by for a visit >> http://www.ithacastring.com >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:34:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01522; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:34:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:34:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: echoplex Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:13:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <19990827181128.12551.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"0fISE1.0.Ed6.NAknt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Could you remind me; who was keeping the list of buyers again? I need to upgrade from 99% to 100% buy. Also, does anyone know of open mic nights and other open performance venues in the San Francisco area? I'm trying to get out of my room more :> Thanks, bIz -----Original Message----- From: M T [mailto:ylpunk@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 11:11 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: echoplex Hey - The echoplex is back on Zzounds, but for the old (high) price of $579 + 99 for the pedal. Is it time yet for us to resend that list of buyers to Oberheim and see what they have to say? As of next week August is over, and a previous message from Kim seemed to assert that they had said they would be shipping in August for a lower price. as an aside - that ring Stinger sounds pretty hip. How does it stack up vs. the EH Microsynth? MT PS: Anyone playing in NYC this weekend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 15:37:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA02758; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:37:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:37:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <052401bef0be$70299b60$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: MD stuff Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:00:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0521_01BEF094.871F8B10" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"L61Ys.0.bg6.BBknt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0521_01BEF094.871F8B10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hesitate attaching this commercial message but since we've been = talking about minidiscs I thought some of you might want to take = advantage of this offer. Please delete if you don't care about blank = minidiscs. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com Ay Chihuahua! Minidisco introduces SAME DAY SHIPPING & NEXT DAY = DELIVERY! =20 That's right! Order from our web site before 12:30PM Eastern Time, = Monday thru Friday, and on the VERY SAME DAY your order will rocket out of the launch tubes here at = the Minidisco subterranean research complex. Thus- if you place your order online before = 12:30PM EST Mon-Thurs, AND you select Next Day service, YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR ORDER THE VERY NEXT = DAY! If our service was any faster, you'd go back in time!=20 =20 Also...you've still got a few more days to take advantage of our = latest groovy promotion. Order on our site before August 31, 1999, we'll send you *** 3 FREE BRIGHT = RED HI-SPACE MINIDISCS *** with your next order. Hurry! It's ending soon!=20 =20 Here's how it works: =20 Order at least $25 worth of stuff (not including shipping) from = Minidisco's web site at http://www.minidisco.com. On the bottom of the order page where you = enter your name, address, and credit card information, find the box where you are asked for a = "promotional code". In this box, type the following code word: RAIDEEN =20 Important: Make sure that you enter the code word EXACTLY as it is = typed above, in all UPPERCASE letters. Then submit your personal information and VOILA! Your = free fabulous Hi-Space MiniDiscs will appear on your order! This offer is good for orders placed on = our WEB SITE only (not good for phone orders). The offer EXPIRES on August 31, 1999. =20 It's OK to tell your friends about this promotion, but there is a = limit of one promotional 3-pack per customer per day. That means that if you order more than once = per day, we'll catch you and only send out one 3-pack! Aaargh!! That's worse than getting = nothing! =20 PS: We still have a very few Prospec Digital Signal processors in = stock, and at $249.00 they're a real bargain. Get one now cause when they're gone, they're gone = forever. =20 Thanks, =20 Jim, John, Adam, Jimmy, Rose, Paul & Bob Minidisco 2124 Kittredge St. #56 Berkeley CA 94704 Phone: (510)-848-6703 Fax:(510)-848-6083 sales@minidisco.com http://www.minidisco.com =20 "MD Rocks!" =20 If you want to get off this mailing list, hit reply and put the word = REMOVE in the subject of your email. We'll take you off right away, we promise! =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0521_01BEF094.871F8B10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hesitate attaching this commercial = message but=20 since we've been talking about minidiscs I thought some of you might = want to=20 take advantage of this offer.  Please delete if you don't care = about blank=20 minidiscs.
 
Dennis=20 Leas
-----------------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
Ay Chihuahua! Minidisco = introduces SAME DAY=20 SHIPPING & NEXT DAY DELIVERY!

That's right!  Order = from our=20 web site before 12:30PM Eastern Time, Monday thru Friday, and on = the
VERY=20 SAME DAY your order will rocket out of the launch tubes here at the=20 Minidisco subterranean
research complex.  Thus- if you place = your=20 order online before 12:30PM EST Mon-Thurs, AND you
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------=_NextPart_000_0521_01BEF094.871F8B10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 16:25:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15830; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:25:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:25:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908272012.QAA11253@sun2.air.on.ca> From: Gerry P To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: OT : Where to find a "Shorty" guitar stand? Date: 27 Aug 99 16:11:39 -0500 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.0.0.811 X-ID: AD2D71A145DA11D38117D44709C10000 Resent-Message-ID: <"SM5Cm3.0.I33.T5lnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just picked up a "Shorty" guitar stand for my Godin electric and was wondering if anyone has an address ( email or snail) for the manufacturer/distributor as I am wondering if they make one for acoustics. It is made in Canada and is the smallest and best stand I have seen. The place I bought it from doesn't have a clue how to get a hold of another one! Thanks in advance Gerry P "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." A Einstein From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 16:35:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18753; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:35:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:35:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:11:39 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Resent-Message-ID: <"RM-D53.0.A43.-5lnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com $199.95 with a $50.00 rebate at shopping.com... Go all the way to the 702 screen to see the rebate offer... -Miko >>> "K. Douglas Baldwin" 08/27 11:01 AM >>> And how much is the MD-MS702? I'm in the market for cheap live recording = gear m'self> Douglas Baldwin, Alpha male Coyote, the Trickster dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 2:24 PM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Sharp Minidisc model MD-MS702; either direct from board or via Sony = ECM-727P stereo mic I love it. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne To: Loopers Delight Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:24 PM Subject: Non loop related- recorders Hi all- I wanted to get a consensus on what everyone uses to record live = shows- it needs to be small and stereo- Mini disc or other- and what = type of stereo mic do you all find that works well? I need to record for = private listening only- so I don't need dat plus I cant afford it = anyway- price range up to about $300. I currently use a mini casette recorder that is pretty bad sound = quality- if only the tape rolled smoothly it would be better but there = is flutter in most cheap mini casette players it seems- and none in = stereo- Thanks- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 17:03:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26104; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001c01bef0cf$4927e380$035bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <19990826114547.26605.rocketmail@web128.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: 2 Jam Mans for sale. Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:01:07 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"vCigb3.0.Pu5.4hlnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Good news!!! i have an american friend in my neighborhood and i can receive the money in his american bank count,so you don't have to pay the Western Union tax...just the shipping.Let me know if you are still interested and i will go to the post office to get the shipping price to mak an agreemen.Regards!!! Julio. ----- Original Message ----- From: dan sumner To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 8:45 AM Subject: Re: 2 Jam Mans for sale. > > what are the prices? > > dan > --- Julio Moreno wrote: > > No footswitch.12 sec memory.E mail me privately. > > Regards. > > Julio > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 17:03:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26472; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:03:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001601bef0ce$e3818cc0$035bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <6F0C89CB37CCD211890800A0C91EA1C4DABAF3@clients2.comcastpc.com> Subject: Re: lexicon jamman needed Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:58:16 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"1zgUG3.0.dg5.4flnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Good news!!! i have an american friend in my neighborhood and i can receive the money in his count in american bank.The price will be better.E mail me if you are still interested.Regards. Julio ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 9:46 PM Subject: lexicon jamman needed > anyone know where i can get a whole of a lexicon jamman? i will pay big, > please reply. vtroia@home.com > > thanks > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 19:21:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27481; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:21:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:21:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Doug Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: echoplex -- Zzounds Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:12:46 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <19990827181128.12551.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"gHeTO1.0.t66.3jnnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I wouldn't take the Zzounds site too seriously, they still have the discontinued Korg Wavedrum listed on it. Believe you me, I was pretty excited when I saw that! (and, no, they don't have NOS) Also, Zzounds has a peculiar practice of charging you the full amount of the product right away even if it's placed on backorder. I had a terrible experience with them trying to a get a refund on a product that was backordered for over four months. I ended up ordering directly from the vendor and got it within a couple of days for only $10 more. YMMV. I also do not like an "e-store" who does not provide a phone number to call someone directly if there is a problem with the order. Zzounds only provides an e-mail address, although they promise a quick response, I have found this not to be the case on several occasions. -----Original Message----- From: M T [mailto:ylpunk@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 2:11 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: echoplex Hey - The echoplex is back on Zzounds, but for the old (high) price of $579 + 99 for the pedal. Is it time yet for us to resend that list of buyers to Oberheim and see what they have to say? As of next week August is over, and a previous message from Kim seemed to assert that they had said they would be shipping in August for a lower price. as an aside - that ring Stinger sounds pretty hip. How does it stack up vs. the EH Microsynth? MT PS: Anyone playing in NYC this weekend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 23:26:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA18090; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:26:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:26:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Non Loop MD Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:20:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bef104$3fe6b500$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEF0C9.9387DD00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"GJA243.0.o74.1Mrnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEF0C9.9387DD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know if there is a difference between the 2 recorders listed below? They market them differently- both have mono long rec but the way it is phrased is diff in both- also it says one is 24 bit adac and the other just adac- is it the same but selective wording to make the high end model sound better? Cliff 1) http://www.sharp-usa.com/frame.asp?pageid=/minidisc/ 2) http://www.sharp-usa.com/frame.asp?pageid=/minidisc/ ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEF0C9.9387DD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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2) http://ww= w.sharp-usa.com/frame.asp?pageid=3D/minidisc/
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01BEF0C9.9387DD00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 23:38:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA21309; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:38:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:38:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C75914.EF45CD5C@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:35:48 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: dfx91 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZBeuO3.0.6z4.Barnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com remember that big long post I sent about the dfx94/98, describing what they were? It's just like the 94 only with 1 second instead of 4. I don't think it has a sample/trigger mode. I've only seen a few in use. matt James Pearce wrote: > Was wonderin if anyone had any specs the DOD dfx91 - small 1 sec delay/sampler > as I heard. > > [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 23:55:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25056; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:55:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:55:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C75D1E.1C4292F1@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:53:02 -0700 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: echoplex -- Zzounds References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dOfdP2.0.4-5.tprnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have to say that I agree. They list the unreleased DFX 98 for $124. A friend of mine placed an order and was charged the full amount on his card. After several blazing emails sent to Zzounds, he found out on his own that the unit was never even released. Zzounds never told him. In fact, Zzounds' said, "We're out of stock of that item right now, but we'll send it to you the next time we have them in stock." After several more blazing emails and threat of litigation, they finally returned his money. matt Doug Lawrence wrote: > I wouldn't take the Zzounds site too seriously, they still have the > discontinued Korg Wavedrum listed on it. Believe you me, I was pretty > excited when I saw that! (and, no, they don't have NOS) > > Also, Zzounds has a peculiar practice of charging you the full amount of the > product right away even if it's placed on backorder. I had a terrible > experience with them trying to a get a refund on a product that was > backordered for over four months. I ended up ordering directly from the > vendor and got it within a couple of days for only $10 more. YMMV. > > I also do not like an "e-store" who does not provide a phone number to call > someone directly if there is a problem with the order. Zzounds only provides > an e-mail address, although they promise a quick response, I have found this > not to be the case on several occasions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: M T [mailto:ylpunk@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 2:11 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: echoplex > > Hey - > > The echoplex is back on Zzounds, but for the old (high) price of $579 + 99 > for > the pedal. Is it time yet for us to resend that list of buyers to Oberheim > and > see what they have to say? As of next week August is over, and a previous > message from Kim seemed to assert that they had said they would be shipping > in > August for a lower price. > > as an aside - that ring Stinger sounds pretty hip. How does it stack up vs. > the EH Microsynth? > > MT > > PS: Anyone playing in NYC this weekend? > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Aug 27 23:56:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25186; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:56:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:56:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ejunk@earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001bef104$3fe6b500$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:00:10 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: More Non Loop re: MD-optical out? Resent-Message-ID: <"bpvj2.0.B06.Crrnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is anybody aware of any portable MD recorder that has optical out? I see optical out on the home decks but I'm yet to find one that has it in a walkman-style. Eric Hausmann From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 00:51:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA08464; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:51:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:51:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990828042900.89426.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.181.94.94] From: "Greg S" To: References: <000001bef104$3fe6b500$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Non Loop MD Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:29:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"eIcNa1.0.oa.mMsnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check out http://www.minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html for some good reviews and comparisons.. p.s. The 2 URLs you listed show pretty much the same thing...... OK, exactly the same thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Clifford Novey To: Loopers Delight Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 8:20 PM Subject: Non Loop MD Anyone know if there is a difference between the 2 recorders listed below? They market them differently- both have mono long rec but the way it is phrased is diff in both- also it says one is 24 bit adac and the other just adac- is it the same but selective wording to make the high end model sound better? Cliff 1) http://www.sharp-usa.com/frame.asp?pageid=/minidisc/ 2) http://www.sharp-usa.com/frame.asp?pageid=/minidisc/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 00:49:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07750; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:49:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:49:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990828042642.89995.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.181.94.94] From: "Greg S" To: References: Subject: Re: More Non Loop re: MD-optical out? Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:27:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"c9H611.0.-K.bKsnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After the recent MD posts, I too became very interested in them as a low cost, portable, recording alternative to DAT. The obvious question for many of us is the whole digital out issue -- why not protect the quality by maintaining it's digital integrity! Unfortunately, my research* today indicates no one makes a PORTABLE recorder with an optical or digital output in addition to the input. Apparently Sony used to make one, but no more. I got the impression a lot of the "MD Heads" have both portable recorders and stand alone home systems as well. * research consisted of surfing: http://www.minidisc.org/ and http://www.amulation.com/md-l-archive/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: More Non Loop re: MD-optical out? > Is anybody aware of any portable MD recorder that has optical out? I see > optical out on the home decks but I'm yet to find one that has it in a > walkman-style. > > Eric Hausmann > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 03:38:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12919; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:38:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 03:38:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990828095131.006f40b8@email.aon.at> X-Sender: aon.912027787@email.aon.at X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:51:46 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: haeusle Subject: JUNGLE FUNK back again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"a0EYv2.0.kw2.A5vnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com tonight, saturday at 9p.m. jungle funk will do their 5th show at the conrad sohm/ austria. they will record this show for their next cd, there are also some guest musicians invited. hope that some of you can make it (austria ain't that far away from the US... just a couple hours by plane... ;-) lorenz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 05:58:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05053; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:58:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:58:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990828120804.006f9a0c@email.aon.at> X-Sender: aon.912027787@email.aon.at X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:08:09 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: haeusle Subject: JUNGLE FUNK back again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"f5pLz1.0.ht.-4xnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sorry forgot to say that the conrad sohm is in dornbirn (for those from germany or switzerland) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 05:58:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA05059; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:58:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:58:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990828120804.00701824@email.aon.at> X-Sender: aon.912027787@email.aon.at X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:09:33 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: haeusle Subject: JUNGLE FUNK back again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kkMAE3.0.wv.I6xnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sorry forgot to say that the conrad sohm is in dornbirn (for those from germany or switzerland) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 06:15:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08432; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:15:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:15:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:07:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199908281007.MAA07051@mail.euroweb.hu> X-Sender: pop1678@mail.euroweb.hu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Adam Davidson Subject: Re: JUNGLE FUNK back again Resent-Message-ID: <"SKben3.0.th1.iJxnt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09:51 AM 8/28/99 +0200, you wrote: >tonight, saturday at 9p.m. jungle funk will do their 5th show at the conrad >sohm/ austria. they will record this show for their next cd, there are also >some guest musicians invited. > >hope that some of you can make it (austria ain't that far away from the >US... just a couple hours by plane... ;-) > >lorenz damnit. if you told me it in time, i could go there (im from hungary). im dying to catch'em once more. adam From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 08:33:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA32166; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:33:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:33:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C79438.5F7F@ithacastring.com> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:48:08 +0000 From: Eric Aceto Reply-To: eric@ithacastring.com Organization: Ithaca Stringed Instruments X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: More Non Loop re: MD-optical out? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"pTk8Z2.0.hb7.BLznt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is anybody aware of any portable MD recorder that has optical out? I see optical out on the home decks but I'm yet to find one that has it in a walkman-style. My Sony MZ-R55 has optical out and came with the cable Eric -- drop on by for a visit http://www.ithacastring.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 09:44:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12525; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:44:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:44:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:39:50 EDT Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 135 Resent-Message-ID: <"I9zFC.0.pr2.SR-nt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 26/08/99 19:23:22 GMT Daylight Time, clifsound@mediaone.net writes: > onsensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small and > stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic Sennheiser MKE 66 stereo mike & Sony MZ-R35 = good result. the mic's a bit pricey though. Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP), ..It's brilliant if you use an external pre-amp ( or mixer) into the line IP. I actually bought the 702, but when it wouldn't work there were no replacements in the shop , so they gave me the Sony instead. Sometimes I think the digital compression loses things (including stuff I could hear through the headphones during recording) ..but for the money and conveniance you can't beat em. Andy Butler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 15:01:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12755; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:01:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:01:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bef186$f4b58100$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <"9_AJu.0.Qn2.e23ot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Andy Butler wrote- Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) ****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me really- I already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se other 702 owner's perspectives. Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 19:23:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02368; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:23:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:23:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990828231615.30721.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.129.86] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:16:15 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"CtBa02.0.2G.Zt6ot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike the mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and Out...papadave55@hotmail.com >From: "Clifford Novey" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > >Andy Butler wrote- > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me really- >I >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se other >702 owner's perspectives. > >Cliff > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Aug 28 20:02:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10830; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:02:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:02:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: mic input on the sharp model 702 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:58:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bef1b1$3aed7ae0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990828231615.30721.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZYIbd1.0.8P2.HU7ot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cancelling your order should not be a problem- just check the website you ordered from- I think I will check mine out first- it may not be a problem for me- I need it for live shows and rehearsals mainly- , plus at that price it could be re-sold w/no prob but there is 30 days to return anyway- I got mine from shopping.com- I have seen many diff opinions which basically comes down to "decide for yourself" I guess- I hope it works out! Cliff -----Original Message----- From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike the mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and Out...papadave55@hotmail.com >From: "Clifford Novey" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > >Andy Butler wrote- > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me really- >I >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se other >702 owner's perspectives. > >Cliff > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 10:52:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12540; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:52:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:52:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:29:22 EDT Subject: web site/soundfiles To: stickwire-l@majordomo.netcom.com, taptalk@progrock.net, Sticknews@aol.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, 2101@homer.harman-dod.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56 Resent-Message-ID: <"bKMbd2.0.YW.JGKot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For those interested, just thought I'd mention that I've updated my web site with new graphics and soundfiles at <>. Thanks. - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 11:11:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18142; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:11:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:11:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009301bef229$6440c5a0$a8ac9bcf@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:43:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"i4KxI1.0.nt7.e4Kot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Audio Technica AT 801 and the 702 are a good combo--l like the $250 or so 801 better than the 100-300$ Sony stereo mics also use a pair of the $35 each AT 35 lavaliers from Best Buy for stereo and mono sound seeking (they're chiclet sized and sound OK) yes, the mic pre sucks--I use it anyway for now--someone suggested the Sampson Mixpad 4 with batteries for cheap semi-portable mic pres I travel with my 702 alot and it's great transporting a dozen or so recordings (including the Torn and Squarepusher that my sweetie don't dig), a few blank discs, the AT 35's, spare Li battery and a pair of Sony ear buds in a 3x5x7" nylon pouch As far as the sound quality of the ATRAC compression, I think it sounds pretty good, but I've seen posts from folks recording massed strings and bagpipes who complained of distortion Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net BTW thanks loads for all those ## VORTEX ## tips -----Original Message----- From: SoundFNR@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Non loop related- recorders >In a message dated 26/08/99 19:23:22 GMT Daylight Time, >clifsound@mediaone.net writes: > >> onsensus on what everyone uses to record live shows- it needs to be small >and >> stereo- Mini disc or other- and what type of stereo mic > >Sennheiser MKE 66 stereo mike & Sony MZ-R35 = good result. >the mic's a bit pricey though. > > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP), >..It's brilliant if you use an external pre-amp ( or mixer) into the line IP. > >I actually bought the 702, but when it wouldn't work there were no >replacements in the shop , so they gave me the Sony instead. > > >Sometimes I think the digital compression loses things (including stuff I >could hear through the headphones during recording) >..but for the money and conveniance you can't beat em. > >Andy Butler > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 15:32:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01625; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:32:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:32:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: web site/soundfiles Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:12:24 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bef252$6d649160$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <"jbSHH.0.R87.TOOot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This link don't work for me- -----Original Message----- From: PMimlitsch@aol.com [mailto:PMimlitsch@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 7:29 AM To: stickwire-l@majordomo.netcom.com; taptalk@progrock.net; Sticknews@aol.com; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; 2101@homer.harman-dod.com Subject: web site/soundfiles For those interested, just thought I'd mention that I've updated my web site with new graphics and soundfiles at <>. Thanks. - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 16:34:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15414; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:34:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:34:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C98BF1.2FF9731E@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:37:22 -0400 From: Jeff Duke Reply-To: jmar@bellsouth.net Organization: TecBabLabs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: web site/soundfiles References: <000101bef252$6d649160$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ImPr83.0.Yz.IpOot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Worked for me, you might try it this way http://hometown.aol.com/pmimlitsch/index.html Listening to the mp3s now and they sound great! jd Clifford Novey wrote: > This link don't work for me- > > -----Original Message----- > From: PMimlitsch@aol.com [mailto:PMimlitsch@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 7:29 AM > To: stickwire-l@majordomo.netcom.com; taptalk@progrock.net; > Sticknews@aol.com; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; > 2101@homer.harman-dod.com > Subject: web site/soundfiles > > For those interested, just thought I'd mention that I've updated my web site > with new graphics and soundfiles at <>. > Thanks. - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 17:40:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30232; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:40:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:40:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <2f3d9163.24fafec4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:23:16 EDT Subject: live gigs... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"N_APc.0.vU6.uJQot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all... plying my funk & psychedelia (plus loopage) with the Tom Tom Club on these coming dates: Seattle Washington - Bumbershoot Festival... headlining the "rythym stage" friday 9/3 Crested Butte Colorado - One World Music Festival (or something) Monday 9/6 I'll be posting dates in Europe shortly. best to all, Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 18:39:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09926; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:39:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:39:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C9C2B7.9AE97398@toddreynolds.com> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:42:20 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 References: <000001bef1b1$3aed7ae0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rbjoN.0.292.ZKRot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all, as i recall this thread is re:mini-disc players, yes? if so, check out the monthly specials at b & h.... 209.95 gets you a home recording deck and a portable together. sony's. http://www.bhphotovideo.com todd Clifford Novey wrote: > Cancelling your order should not be a problem- just check the website you > ordered from- > > I think I will check mine out first- it may not be a problem for me- I need > it for live shows and rehearsals mainly- , plus at that price it could be > re-sold w/no prob but there is 30 days to return anyway- I got mine from > shopping.com- I have seen many diff opinions which basically comes down to > "decide for yourself" I guess- I hope it works out! > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:16 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike the > mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and > Out...papadave55@hotmail.com > > >From: "Clifford Novey" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: > >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > > > >Andy Butler wrote- > > > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. > >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > > > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me really- > >I > >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se other > >702 owner's perspectives. > > > >Cliff > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 20:27:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32500; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:27:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:27:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: mic input on the sharp model 702 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:23:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bef27d$d8948b40$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37C9C2B7.9AE97398@toddreynolds.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"-MYEg1.0.Go7.sxSot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I searched for that deal and couldnt find it- I would be seriously interested in that setup! Thanks- Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reynolds [mailto:todd@toddreynolds.com] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 4:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 hey all, as i recall this thread is re:mini-disc players, yes? if so, check out the monthly specials at b & h.... 209.95 gets you a home recording deck and a portable together. sony's. http://www.bhphotovideo.com todd Clifford Novey wrote: > Cancelling your order should not be a problem- just check the website you > ordered from- > > I think I will check mine out first- it may not be a problem for me- I need > it for live shows and rehearsals mainly- , plus at that price it could be > re-sold w/no prob but there is 30 days to return anyway- I got mine from > shopping.com- I have seen many diff opinions which basically comes down to > "decide for yourself" I guess- I hope it works out! > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:16 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike the > mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and > Out...papadave55@hotmail.com > > >From: "Clifford Novey" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: > >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > > > >Andy Butler wrote- > > > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. > >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > > > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me really- > >I > >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se other > >702 owner's perspectives. > > > >Cliff > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 20:31:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01098; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:31:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:31:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: mic input on the sharp model 702 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:26:14 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bef27e$44c7d2e0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37C9C2B7.9AE97398@toddreynolds.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"2AnFT2.0.Vv7.g-Sot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry, I found it- but the portable does not record- oh well- :) Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reynolds [mailto:todd@toddreynolds.com] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 4:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 hey all, as i recall this thread is re:mini-disc players, yes? if so, check out the monthly specials at b & h.... 209.95 gets you a home recording deck and a portable together. sony's. http://www.bhphotovideo.com todd Clifford Novey wrote: > Cancelling your order should not be a problem- just check the website you > ordered from- > > I think I will check mine out first- it may not be a problem for me- I need > it for live shows and rehearsals mainly- , plus at that price it could be > re-sold w/no prob but there is 30 days to return anyway- I got mine from > shopping.com- I have seen many diff opinions which basically comes down to > "decide for yourself" I guess- I hope it works out! > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:16 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike the > mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and > Out...papadave55@hotmail.com > > >From: "Clifford Novey" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >To: > >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > > > >Andy Butler wrote- > > > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. > >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > > > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me really- > >I > >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se other > >702 owner's perspectives. > > > >Cliff > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 21:01:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08067; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:01:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:01:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37C9DFC2.2F86A456@toddreynolds.com> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:46:48 -0500 From: Todd Reynolds X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 References: <000101bef27e$44c7d2e0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8O1rM2.0.qZ.y8Tot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what???????? it looks like MY portable, and IT records. Stereo mini in. i use a sony stereo mike, works ok... sorry if i mislead you... todd Clifford Novey wrote: > Sorry, I found it- but the portable does not record- oh well- :) > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Reynolds [mailto:todd@toddreynolds.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 4:42 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > hey all, as i recall this thread is re:mini-disc players, yes? if so, check > out the monthly specials at b & h.... 209.95 gets you a home recording deck > and a portable together. sony's. http://www.bhphotovideo.com > > todd > > Clifford Novey wrote: > > > Cancelling your order should not be a problem- just check the website you > > ordered from- > > > > I think I will check mine out first- it may not be a problem for me- I > need > > it for live shows and rehearsals mainly- , plus at that price it could be > > re-sold w/no prob but there is 30 days to return anyway- I got mine from > > shopping.com- I have seen many diff opinions which basically comes down to > > "decide for yourself" I guess- I hope it works out! > > > > Cliff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:16 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > > > I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike > the > > mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and > > Out...papadave55@hotmail.com > > > > >From: "Clifford Novey" > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > >To: > > >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders > > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > > > > > >Andy Butler wrote- > > > > > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. > > >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > > > > > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me > really- > > >I > > >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se > other > > >702 owner's perspectives. > > > > > >Cliff > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die > happy" - henry miller > 500B Grand St. 11G > New York, NY 10002 > > 212 475-8559 phone > 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. > > todd@toddreynolds.com > http://www.toddreynolds.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Aug 29 22:06:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23297; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:06:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:06:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Clifford Novey" To: Subject: RE: mic input on the sharp model 702 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:56:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bef28a$e4114be0$1d358218@we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37C9DFC2.2F86A456@toddreynolds.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"EEfV13.0.n55.OJUot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You didn't mislead- the bundle offered is geared towards someone who would make the recordings on the home unit and use the portable to play anywhere- No worries- I think I will be happy with the 702 when it arrives- it will be like heaven compared to mini casette I use for boots and the relatively bulky Marantz portable tape recorder I use for gigs etc.- Thanks- Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Todd Reynolds [mailto:todd@toddreynolds.com] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 6:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 what???????? it looks like MY portable, and IT records. Stereo mini in. i use a sony stereo mike, works ok... sorry if i mislead you... todd Clifford Novey wrote: > Sorry, I found it- but the portable does not record- oh well- :) > > Cliff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Reynolds [mailto:todd@toddreynolds.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 4:42 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > hey all, as i recall this thread is re:mini-disc players, yes? if so, check > out the monthly specials at b & h.... 209.95 gets you a home recording deck > and a portable together. sony's. http://www.bhphotovideo.com > > todd > > Clifford Novey wrote: > > > Cancelling your order should not be a problem- just check the website you > > ordered from- > > > > I think I will check mine out first- it may not be a problem for me- I > need > > it for live shows and rehearsals mainly- , plus at that price it could be > > re-sold w/no prob but there is 30 days to return anyway- I got mine from > > shopping.com- I have seen many diff opinions which basically comes down to > > "decide for yourself" I guess- I hope it works out! > > > > Cliff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 4:16 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Subject: mic input on the sharp model 702 > > > > I saw Andy's note seconds after I ordered by email!!!Anyone else dislike > the > > mic input???Can I cancel the order? It was early this morning.om and > > Out...papadave55@hotmail.com > > > > >From: "Clifford Novey" > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > >To: > > >Subject: RE: Non loop related- recorders > > >Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:55:54 -0700 > > > > > >Andy Butler wrote- > > > > > >Beware the mic input on the Sharp 702 is it's weak link. > > >a rather poor mic pre-amp which colours the sound quite badly(IMHP) > > > > > >****Any other 702 owners experience this? It's too late now for me > really- > > >I > > >already bought it so I will find out- but I would be interested to se > other > > >702 owner's perspectives. > > > > > >Cliff > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > -- > Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die > happy" - henry miller > 500B Grand St. 11G > New York, NY 10002 > > 212 475-8559 phone > 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. > > todd@toddreynolds.com > http://www.toddreynolds.com -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 12:06:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09262; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:06:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:06:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990830155309.24578.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:53:09 -0700 (PDT) From: M T Reply-To: mt@motiontek.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #349 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"VtUX32.0.Lh1.kcgot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Zzounds adds disclaimer: Availability: Typically ships within 1-3 weeks but supply of this item historically has been unpredictable. Within 3-5 days of when your order is placed we should be able to provide you with an estimate of when it will ship. You can cancel your order at any time. (but we'll keep your money) I added the parentheses based on everyone's comments. :-) MT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 13:33:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31482; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:33:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:33:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:23:25 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Mr. Bungle anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id NAA28687 Resent-Message-ID: <"KIUzL3.0.i07.Avhot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fridays show in Santa Cruz at Palookaville was amazing! Having not heard their new release, I wasn't aware of their addition of ethereal Beach Boys style harmonies with a twist... Amazing display of musicianship from everyone. I also didn't know that Mike Patton played keys. Sometimes singing with one, two and sometimes a third mic as well as tweaking his vocal processors with dsp's AND triggering samples and synth sounds with filter tricks while singing, Mike Patton went beyond any singer I've ever seen. With the possible exception of formal electronic music treatments. Sounds ranging from demonic shrieking to classic jazz singing to animal, jungle and industrial noise effects came from his vocals and signal processors. On the looping front, it seemed like there were at least a few and possibly more segments of looped samples as the basic skeleton which the rest of the band (and sometimes not) played with. While it was somewhat obvious to me, It also seemed entirely seamless and appropriate and was definitely not distracting in any way. The fact that as a band they were capable of incredible flash cut changes of sound, dynamics, timbre and genre completely overshadowed any of the canned parts which we've all mentioned in previous discussions here. Don't know the name of the rest of the gang, but it was Bass-Vox, Sax-Flute-Keys, Percussion (Patton said the percussionist was a UCSC music professor, Walter ???), Drums, Guitar-Keys-Vox (Spruance), Vox-Keys (Patton). Guitar sounds were great from Trey Spruance and he went direct. Looked like he had a Marshal JMP 1 rack tube pre as well as a Line 6 floorboard and possibly a POD. Just a house monitor, no amp. Some wailing fat surf sounds as well as great tremolo stuff and of course the requisite heavy metal sorts of sounds. He also played keys much of the time. There was some great schtick from Patton where he asked if any of Walter's students were out there and if they actually learned anything "from this clown"... One guy said he learned snare drum and Mike screamed "Well get the fuck up here NOW!!!" and they got the drummer's snare out there for him to play. He played a long fast roll with Patton holding one of his processed mics over it. Patton then said "Hey... I thought that was pretty good, but Walter still thinks YOU SUCK!!! SO GEDDOUTTAHERE!!!!!!!" The guy actually took it very well and it was a good laugh. Not sure if it was staged, but it was very funny. Anyway... it was an awesome show, but it was also awesomely loud with real ear damage capability. I'm sorry I only had bar napkins threre to stuff in my ears. Woke up with my ears ringing... Full house all ages show as well... Great audience and no sign of violence... lots of smiling faces despite the extreme content and aggression of the music. High marks for audience vibe! best to all... -Miko Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 14:32:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14354; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:32:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:32:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000f01bef30e$595fe0e0$536fc8d0@computer> From: "postaldave" To: Subject: boomerang Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:37:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"o5MGf1.0.a7.U6iot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've been wanting to purchase a boomerang phrase sampler. This is harder than you would think. I checked their web site for retailer and have email about half of them and haven't gotten anything back from any of them. Does anyone out there know of a store that sales this item and at a good price. Email me at postaldave@qx.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 14:33:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14480; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:33:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:33:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:03:20 EDT Subject: D.J. Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"19Kes1.0.Qp1.IUiot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com my number one son needs new cartridges for his DJ type turntables......any ideas where he can get them.....(loop content) then i can loop with him............:)......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 15:48:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01324; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:48:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:48:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37CAD6C7.E22D088F@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:08:55 -0700 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hTM38.0.1h5.xOjot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mike, Over ten years ago, Mr. Bungle played the Phoenix theater in Petaluma. Out walks Patton wearing football-style shoulder pads, spandex pants, and a GIANT dildo strapped to his forehead. Their opening song was a spot-on cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares To You" (or is it "2 U"?). The dramatic irony was hysterical. Later, Patton performed simulated fellatio on the bassist (who had fake blood streaming from his mouth). Their musical expertise totally blew me away, (no pun intended, I swear). Do you know off hand if they'll be playing San Francisco anytime soon? Are they keeping up with the insane stage antics? Jim Mike Biffle wrote: > > Fridays show in Santa Cruz at Palookaville was amazing! Having not heard their new release, I wasn't aware of their addition of ethereal Beach Boys style harmonies with a twist... Amazing display of musicianship from everyone. > > I also didn't know that Mike Patton played keys. Sometimes singing with one, two and sometimes a third mic as well as tweaking his vocal processors with dsp's AND triggering samples and synth sounds with filter tricks while singing, Mike Patton went beyond any singer I've ever seen. With the possible exception of formal electronic music treatments. Sounds ranging from demonic shrieking to classic jazz singing to animal, jungle and industrial noise effects came from his vocals and signal processors. > > On the looping front, it seemed like there were at least a few and possibly more segments of looped samples as the basic skeleton which the rest of the band (and sometimes not) played with. While it was somewhat obvious to me, It also seemed entirely seamless and appropriate and was definitely not distracting in any way. The fact that as a band they were capable of incredible flash cut changes of sound, dynamics, timbre and genre completely overshadowed any of the canned parts which we've all mentioned in previous discussions here. > > Don't know the name of the rest of the gang, but it was Bass-Vox, Sax-Flute-Keys, Percussion (Patton said the percussionist was a UCSC music professor, Walter ???), Drums, Guitar-Keys-Vox (Spruance), Vox-Keys (Patton). > > Guitar sounds were great from Trey Spruance and he went direct. Looked like he had a Marshal JMP 1 rack tube pre as well as a Line 6 floorboard and possibly a POD. Just a house monitor, no amp. Some wailing fat surf sounds as well as great tremolo stuff and of course the requisite heavy metal sorts of sounds. He also played keys much of the time. > > There was some great schtick from Patton where he asked if any of Walter's students were out there and if they actually learned anything "from this clown"... One guy said he learned snare drum and Mike screamed "Well get the fuck up here NOW!!!" and they got the drummer's snare out there for him to play. He played a long fast roll with Patton holding one of his processed mics over it. Patton then said "Hey... I thought that was pretty good, but Walter still thinks YOU SUCK!!! SO GEDDOUTTAHERE!!!!!!!" The guy actually took it very well and it was a good laugh. Not sure if it was staged, but it was very funny. > > Anyway... it was an awesome show, but it was also awesomely loud with real ear damage capability. I'm sorry I only had bar napkins threre to stuff in my ears. Woke up with my ears ringing... Full house all ages show as well... Great audience and no sign of violence... lots of smiling faces despite the extreme content and aggression of the music. High marks for audience vibe! > > best to all... > -Miko > > Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." > mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 15:59:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04171; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:59:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:59:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37CAD90D.3687@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:18:37 +0200 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: DJ turntables ?!! ... Arso ! -> DJRND2 then Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"D0dVR1.0.5N6.gZjot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > my number one son needs new cartridges for his DJ type turntables......any > ideas where he can get them.....(loop content) then i can loop with > him............:)......michael > STANTON, ORTOFON, SHURE, ... : that's what I know about some wellknown cartridges trademarks. You should find one of them in any music shop I suppose. Btw, you're looping together with DJ turntables ! so what about my DJRND2, Michael ? Remember ! = 14 cyclic stereo multitracks recordable at any time sync in turntables, more than 1 minute at 40 khz sampling. You should try it, your son could loop you direct with his records Emmanuel From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 16:17:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09880; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:17:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:17:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37CAE270.EF3D1512@webms.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:58:40 -0700 From: paul buelow Organization: WebMS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: D.J. Question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_yczG2.0.pi.e6kot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > my number one son needs new cartridges for his DJ type turntables......any > ideas where he can get them.....(loop content) then i can loop with > him............:)......michael Radio Shack - A Tandy Corporation has many record player needle cartridges Guitar Center and their Mail Order house Musican's Friend have cartridges. Expect to pay between US$3-20 for the lowest quality and US$30-130 for good cartridges. Find the turntable model number and the cartidge number and call for compatible parts. You can also try to replace just the needle.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 16:18:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10049; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:18:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:18:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Evilgeek@aol.com Message-ID: <43697c70.24fc3382@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:20:34 EDT Subject: Re: D.J. Question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"9l8LJ3.0.Hc6.kcjot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/30/99 1:32:52 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: << my number one son needs new cartridges for his DJ type turntables......any ideas where he can get them.....(loop content) then i can loop with him............:)......michael >> you should could get them at Guitar Caenter or Order them thru Mucicians Friend-But look for local DJ shops before you go corp. -Rand From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 16:55:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20155; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:55:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:55:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:43:10 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com, zebu@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by rosy.yourwebhost.com id QAA16826 Resent-Message-ID: <"_3eKR2.0.A74.Fqkot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> Jim Poppen 08/30 12:47 PM >>> > Over ten years ago, Mr. Bungle played the Phoenix theater in Petaluma. Out walks Patton wearing football-style shoulder pads, spandex pants, and a GIANT dildo strapped to his forehead. Their opening song was a spot-on cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares To You" (or is it "2 U"?). The dramatic irony was hysterical. Later, Patton performed simulated fellatio on the bassist (who had fake blood streaming from his mouth). Their musical expertise totally blew me away, (no pun intended, I swear). Do you know off hand if they'll be playing San Francisco anytime soon? Are they keeping up with the insane stage antics? While there were a fair amount of obvious provocative statements the stage persona of Mike was of a California Latino with pencil mustache and slicked back hair. He looked the part of a fairly dangerous border dweller. His stage presence was very commanding and he'd go from whisper to a scream visually as well as vocally... -Biffoz Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." mbiffle@svg.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 17:08:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23375; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:08:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:08:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Godf852195@aol.com Message-ID: <69926bb.24fc4b1a@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:01:14 EDT Subject: Re: boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Resent-Message-ID: <"NDKga3.0.fL5.65lot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have the current Muscian's Friend catalog and they have it listed at $599.00 and their price is $479.99 copy: Bommerang 4MB Phrase Sampler A real-time tool for loopers! Creates loops up to 4 minutes long. Layers additional parts in forward or reverse. Even lets you play reverse leads live! Adjustable input level. Unique foot roller volume controller. Ruggd steel chassis. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 18:12:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06322; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:12:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:12:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014201bef334$32623b20$9f0a0118@lakwod1.co.home.com> From: "Russell" To: References: <69926bb.24fc4b1a@aol.com> Subject: Re: boomerang Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:08:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013F_01BEF301.E7418420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"SvlKU.0.ZF1.I2mot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01BEF301.E7418420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robb's Music in Boulder has the Boomerang for $425.00, but they only = have a few in stock. Peace Russell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Godf852195@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:01 PM Subject: Re: boomerang I have the current Muscian's Friend catalog and they have it listed at=20 $599.00 and their price is $479.99 copy: Bommerang 4MB Phrase Sampler A real-time tool for loopers! Creates loops up to 4 minutes long. = Layers=20 additional parts in forward or reverse. Even lets you play reverse = leads=20 live! Adjustable input level. Unique foot roller volume controller. = Ruggd=20 steel chassis. ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01BEF301.E7418420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Robb's = Music in Boulder=20 has the Boomerang for $425.00, but they only have a few in = stock.
Peace
Russell
 
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I have the current Muscian's Friend catalog and they have = it=20 listed at
$599.00 and their price is = $479.99

copy:
Bommerang 4MB=20 Phrase Sampler
A real-time tool for loopers!  Creates loops up = to 4=20 minutes long. Layers
additional parts in forward or reverse.  = Even lets=20 you play reverse leads
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------=_NextPart_000_013F_01BEF301.E7418420-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 18:16:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07756; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:16:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:16:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014801bef334$856832c0$9f0a0118@lakwod1.co.home.com> From: "Russell" To: Subject: Sorry bout the HTML Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:10:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <"DkRZb3.0.GL1.U4mot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think I've got it fugured out now. Peace Russell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MamaSutra's playing at Herman's again on September 1st !!! Check out www.mamasutra.com for details ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ********* "A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs - jolted by every pebble in the road." Henry Ward Beecher ********* From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 18:57:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA19792; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:57:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:57:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: EDP -- submitted requests, SO FAR Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:42:58 -0400 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEF339.0220D386" Resent-Message-ID: <"z6WSq.0.ey3.xdmot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEF339.0220D386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" As some of you will remember, I've been keeping a running tally of people who would like to buy an EDP. The goal being simply to prove there is all sorts of demand for the EDP, and to communicate that demand to people within the corridors of the Gibson Empire. Here's an update. And below I've enclosed to forms which exist on the Loopers-Delight web-site. I'm forwarding this data to folks at Gibson, too. David Kirkdorffer <> <<...>> <<...>> AND HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO SUBMIT AN ORDER. PLEASE READ. http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echoplex_group_buy.html >From David Kirkdorffer: I cannot think of a better way to stimulate GIBSON into Echoplex Digital Pro (EDP) production than a long list of profitable orders waiting to be fulfilled! With that in mind, I'm starting a list of people who really want to buy a NEW EDP. This list will be submitted to whoever picks up the production of the EDP at Gibson. Clearly we can't KNOW the price of the unit at this time, so please assume it will be in the same $600-$700 range as before. Hopefully we will be able to negotiate ourselves a good price and have priority on new units. However, I will NOT be accepting any money. I will not be a middleman. BUT, I WILL make sure this list is in the hands of people who can get the EDP produced again! I am providing two forms (below): A. "ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED TO BUY AN EDP IF I CAN FIND ONE" ORDER FORM B. "ONLY 99% OR LESS COMMITED" ORDER FORM If you are ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED and seriously want to buy an EDP, then use FORM A. If you're on the fence or ONLY 99% committed to paying $600-$700 for an NEW EDP, then use FORM B. Please paste the appropriate form text into an email message, fill it out, and email it to me at DKirkdorffer@exapps.com Please use the exact text below, so I can keep everything organized. Thanks! David Kirkdorffer FORM A A. "ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED TO BUY AN EDP IF I CAN FIND ONE" ORDER FORM Please provide the following details in the following format: A. NAME: A. MAILING ADDRESS: A. DAY PHONE: A. NIGHT PHONE: A. E-MAIL: A. NUMBER OF EDP'S YOU WANT TO ORDER: A. DATE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO GROUP BUY II: A. HOW MANY EDP'S DO YOU ALREADY OWN? A. DO YOU ALREADY OWN ANOTHER "LOOPER"? A. WHAT INSTRUMENT(S) DO YOU PLAY? FORM B B. "ONLY 99% OR LESS COMMITED" ORDER FORM Please provide the following details in the following format: B. NAME: B. MAILING ADDRESS: B. DAY PHONE: B. NIGHT PHONE: B. E-MAIL: B. NUMBER OF EDP'S YOU WANT TO ORDER: B. DATE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO GROUP BUY II: B. HOW MANY EDP'S DO YOU ALREADY OWN? B. DO YOU ALREADY OWN ANOTHER "LOOPER"? B. 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text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lBylZ3.0.o03.Janot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com please remove me, david. i'm afraid i found a used one stacked with memory for $500 thanks and sorry, todd David Kirkdorffer wrote: > As some of you will remember, I've been keeping a running tally of people > who would like to buy an EDP. > > The goal being simply to prove there is all sorts of demand for the EDP, and > to communicate that demand to people within the corridors of the Gibson > Empire. > > Here's an update. And below I've enclosed to forms which exist on the > Loopers-Delight web-site. > > I'm forwarding this data to folks at Gibson, too. > > David Kirkdorffer > > <> > > <<...>> > > <<...>> > > AND HERE'S WHAT YOU NEED TO SUBMIT AN ORDER. PLEASE READ. > > http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echoplex_group_buy.html > > >From David Kirkdorffer: > I cannot think of a better way to stimulate GIBSON into Echoplex > Digital Pro (EDP) production than a long list of profitable orders waiting > to be fulfilled! > With that in mind, I'm starting a list of people who really want to > buy a NEW EDP. This list will be submitted to whoever picks up the > production of the EDP at Gibson. > Clearly we can't KNOW the price of the unit at this time, so please > assume it will be in the same $600-$700 range as before. Hopefully we will > be able to negotiate ourselves a good price and have priority on new units. > However, I will NOT be accepting any money. I will not be a middleman. > BUT, I WILL make sure this list is in the hands of people who can > get the EDP produced again! > I am providing two forms (below): > A. "ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED TO BUY AN EDP IF I CAN FIND ONE" ORDER > FORM > B. "ONLY 99% OR LESS COMMITED" ORDER FORM > If you are ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED and seriously want to > buy an EDP, then use FORM A. > If you're on the fence or ONLY 99% committed to paying > $600-$700 for an NEW EDP, then use FORM B. > Please paste the appropriate form text into an email > message, fill it out, and email it to me at DKirkdorffer@exapps.com Please > use the exact text below, so I can keep everything organized. > Thanks! > David Kirkdorffer > > FORM A > A. "ABSOLUTELY 100% COMMITED TO BUY AN EDP IF I CAN FIND ONE" ORDER FORM > Please provide the following details in the following format: > A. NAME: > A. MAILING ADDRESS: > A. DAY PHONE: > A. NIGHT PHONE: > A. E-MAIL: > A. NUMBER OF EDP'S YOU WANT TO ORDER: > A. DATE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO GROUP BUY II: > A. HOW MANY EDP'S DO YOU ALREADY OWN? > A. DO YOU ALREADY OWN ANOTHER "LOOPER"? > A. WHAT INSTRUMENT(S) DO YOU PLAY? > > FORM B > B. "ONLY 99% OR LESS COMMITED" ORDER FORM > Please provide the following details in the following format: > B. NAME: > B. MAILING ADDRESS: > B. DAY PHONE: > B. NIGHT PHONE: > B. E-MAIL: > B. NUMBER OF EDP'S YOU WANT TO ORDER: > B. DATE YOU SUBMIT YOUR REQUEST TO GROUP BUY II: > B. HOW MANY EDP'S DO YOU ALREADY OWN? > B. DO YOU ALREADY OWN ANOTHER "LOOPER"? > B. WHAT INSTRUMENT(S) DO YOU PLAY? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: Echoplex Orders August 30, 1999.xls > Echoplex Orders August 30, 1999.xls Type: Microsoft Excel Worksheet (application/vnd.ms-excel) > Encoding: base64 -- Todd Reynolds "paint as you like, and die happy" - henry miller 500B Grand St. 11G New York, NY 10002 212 475-8559 phone 917 861-1755 cell, pager, et al. todd@toddreynolds.com http://www.toddreynolds.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 21:45:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA05752; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:45:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:45:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990831013615.42450.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [199.179.175.155] From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: D.J. Question Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:36:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"YwaTR3.0.at.q6pot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Guitar Center... Go with the STANTON's. That's what I use, That's what I love !!!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 23:41:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30831; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:41:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:41:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990831032041.98877.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.137.25] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Mr. Bungle anyone?Call me Biffoz!!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:20:40 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"uqL3w1.0.KH7.ftqot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Miko, Bozo Brain, I would have loved to see the show....Call me when something outragous comes to town...did you think I was still in Tahoe? I've got plenty of ear plugs...share the love... OOOm and OOut Papa Dave >From: "Mike Biffle" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Mr. Bungle anyone? >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:23:25 -0700 > >Fridays show in Santa Cruz at Palookaville was amazing! Having not heard >their new release, I wasn't aware of their addition of ethereal Beach Boys >style harmonies with a twist... Amazing display of musicianship from >everyone. > >I also didn't know that Mike Patton played keys. Sometimes singing with >one, two and sometimes a third mic as well as tweaking his vocal processors >with dsp's AND triggering samples and synth sounds with filter tricks while >singing, Mike Patton went beyond any singer I've ever seen. With the >possible exception of formal electronic music treatments. Sounds ranging >from demonic shrieking to classic jazz singing to animal, jungle and >industrial noise effects came from his vocals and signal processors. > >On the looping front, it seemed like there were at least a few and possibly >more segments of looped samples as the basic skeleton which the rest of the >band (and sometimes not) played with. While it was somewhat obvious to me, >It also seemed entirely seamless and appropriate and was definitely not >distracting in any way. The fact that as a band they were capable of >incredible flash cut changes of sound, dynamics, timbre and genre >completely overshadowed any of the canned parts which we've all mentioned >in previous discussions here. > >Don't know the name of the rest of the gang, but it was Bass-Vox, >Sax-Flute-Keys, Percussion (Patton said the percussionist was a UCSC music >professor, Walter ???), Drums, Guitar-Keys-Vox (Spruance), Vox-Keys >(Patton). > >Guitar sounds were great from Trey Spruance and he went direct. Looked like >he had a Marshal JMP 1 rack tube pre as well as a Line 6 floorboard and >possibly a POD. Just a house monitor, no amp. Some wailing fat surf sounds >as well as great tremolo stuff and of course the requisite heavy metal >sorts of sounds. He also played keys much of the time. > >There was some great schtick from Patton where he asked if any of Walter's >students were out there and if they actually learned anything "from this >clown"... One guy said he learned snare drum and Mike screamed "Well get >the fuck up here NOW!!!" and they got the drummer's snare out there for him >to play. He played a long fast roll with Patton holding one of his >processed mics over it. Patton then said "Hey... I thought that was pretty >good, but Walter still thinks YOU SUCK!!! SO GEDDOUTTAHERE!!!!!!!" The guy >actually took it very well and it was a good laugh. Not sure if it was >staged, but it was very funny. > >Anyway... it was an awesome show, but it was also awesomely loud with real >ear damage capability. I'm sorry I only had bar napkins threre to stuff in >my ears. Woke up with my ears ringing... Full house all ages show as >well... Great audience and no sign of violence... lots of smiling faces >despite the extreme content and aggression of the music. High marks for >audience vibe! > >best to all... >-Miko > >Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual >distractions..." >mbiffle@svg.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Aug 30 23:50:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA00368; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:50:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:50:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990831032436.92274.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.137.25] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: boomerang Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:24:36 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"EfDWZ1.0.X07.Apqot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try Rick Lane 1 800 4337668 ex.27 He's in Denton, Texas and works for P.A.S.. tell him papa dave potter sent you...om and out >From: "postaldave" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: >Subject: boomerang >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:37:34 -0400 > >I've been wanting to purchase a boomerang phrase sampler. This is harder >than you would think. I checked their web site for retailer and have email >about half of them and haven't gotten anything back from any of them. Does >anyone out there know of a store that sales this item and at a good price. >Email me at postaldave@qx.net > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 00:48:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16848; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:48:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:48:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <47f58d58.24fcb01c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:12:12 EDT Subject: Re: EDP -- submitted requests, SO FAR To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Resent-Message-ID: <"vXdLg3.0.GG1.AProt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Take me off the list -- I bought an EDP from fmpaulus/kevin c. kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 01:27:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24171; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:27:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:27:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Greyseason@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:54:32 EDT Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 22 Resent-Message-ID: <"3yMwy3.0.0R4.y0sot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I though that "Nothing Compares 2 U" was a Sinead O'Connor song. In a message dated 8/30/99 7:48:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, zebu@mindspring.com writes: << Their opening song was a spot-on cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares To You" (or is it "2 U"?). >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 01:32:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25273; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:32:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:32:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990830235052.007cb100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:50:52 -0500 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Mr. Bungle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"qouCm2.0.eI4.6zrot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... I just read the recent Mr. Bungle posts, and I have to chime and tell everyone that, even after having seen them three times, the show that I saw in Atlanta, GA on this tour was THE most incredible thing I have ever experienced. I would say that they are the greatest, most innovative band out there right now--and their three recordings (self-titled, Disco Volante and California) are testaments to this fact. To answer one posters question: there are no masks and oddball theatrics this tour--but the show is simply astounding: power, violence, beauty, simplicity, complexity, noise, melody and things that one cannot even begin to put into words . . . all rolled up into one astounding package. They are the band to see this year. They don't tour often, so catch them while they're out for an extended bit, if you can!!! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 02:02:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA31215; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:02:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:02:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990831002629.007a2880@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:26:29 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Mr. Bungle needs Roland DJ 70 Mark 2!!! In-Reply-To: <19990831032041.98877.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"64-FG.0.Vs5.VUsot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Since we're talking about the great Mr. Bungle, I have some news about something that they are in urgent need of on the road. If anyone has any leads on getting them an old Roland DJ 70 Mark 2 sampler, I'm sure that they would be most grateful! Here's the email info for contacting their management: pawmgt@aol.com Here's the actual message from their management: A message from Pick-A-Winner Management: Mr. Bungle is currently in need of a Roland DJ 70 Mark 2 (with SCSI port) 32MB RAM! This is an older sampler that is not made anymore. If someone can locate one for them they would be VERY grateful. This is urgent! Everyday counts! Please e-mail any leads to: Pick-A-Winner Mgt. Thanks! I've got my fingers crossed! Let's help out a great band!!! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 02:50:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA10370; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:50:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:50:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101bef37b$c5bd5840$1116a5ce@stepheng> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:40:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"s8J1y1.0.Au1.vZtot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ennnh! I think you were thinking of Prince's "I Would Die 4 U"... :) Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html * (Hear a NEW "Star Spangled Banner" 8/13!) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 21:54 Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? > I though that "Nothing Compares 2 U" was a Sinead O'Connor song. > > > > In a message dated 8/30/99 7:48:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, zebu@mindspring.com > writes: > > << Their opening song was a spot-on cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares To > You" (or is it "2 U"?). >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 05:33:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA10308; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:33:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:33:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908310920.LAA06640@logatome.micronet.fr> X-Sender: plionnet@mail.francenet.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:20:47 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Pierre LIONNET Subject: OT: Sharp MD 702 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"fz9F52.0.q42.1zvot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have had a sharp MD portable recorder for a little over one year now... And I used it extensively, almost 4 to 10 hours a day on average for both recording and listening. I used to carry it along with me all the time to capture sounds and noises. It worked well, except you can really feel the difference between the recording and the original (the ATRAC compression is very hard with hissing sounds - it gets rid of 'em, as well as with scratches, hums and ambience noises) when you record sampled music. Actually I have the feeling that the recordings sound very polished compared to the original and this is only due to the ATRAC compression. Sounds like the very old fashioned DOLBY A of the low end tape recorders of the early eighties... without the flutter. Regarding recording from a microphone I had my best results (strangely enough) with the little microphone that was supplied with my IBM computer... don't ask why or how: crystal clear sound with no audible difference from the original. But then I used it only to record speech and ambient sounds (trains pasing by, cars in traffic jams etc.). As a whole I have been happy with the unit until the warranty expired (after 12 months) and 4 days (repeat FOUR DAYS) after it broke down... The unit is now useless, and *FUNNY* enough it CANNOT be repaired (at least not here in PARIS France) because the repairmen cannot run the routine TESTS on the unit which is not able anymore to support them. Indeed the problem is that the unit cannot access anymore the Table of Contents of whatever MD you slot in. Of course it will not be replaced (warranty expired...) Note that the unit was not dropped, nor exposed to excessive heat or whatever. I may have been unlucky, but I believe others may face the same problem, so BEWARE. Also you HAVE to know that you cannot always EDIT (and sometimes not even REPRODUCE) the music recorded on a MD by a given model with another model... My next buy wil be a CD recorder instead, I am also fed up with the price of blank MDs (an average 25-30 French francs where a blank CD is less than 10 Francs). But what am I gonna do with my MD collection? Good Bye PiR - FreezerMan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 08:47:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15699; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:47:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:47:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:55:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? In-Reply-To: <001101bef37b$c5bd5840$1116a5ce@stepheng> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"sDtOt2.0.iB2.fTyot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think I just saw on one of thse VH1 - "Where are they now?" that Prince wrote that song for Sinead. Stew On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Ennnh! I think you were thinking of Prince's "I Would Die 4 U"... :) > > Stephen Goodman * It's the free Loop Of The Week! > EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html > * > (Hear a NEW "Star Spangled Banner" 8/13!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 21:54 > Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? > > > > I though that "Nothing Compares 2 U" was a Sinead O'Connor song. > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/30/99 7:48:45 PM !!!First Boot!!!, > zebu@mindspring.com > > writes: > > > > << Their opening song was a spot-on cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares To > > You" (or is it "2 U"?). >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 09:19:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23309; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:19:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:19:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990831124938.15927.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [165.227.137.19] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT: Sharp MD 702 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 05:49:37 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <"N0_B23.0.644.7-yot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks for the input Pierre, I researched the best I could and decided on the Sharp MD recorder. thanks for the tips...sounds like you got a lot of use out of your MD to me ...4 to 10 hours a day for a year...that's a lot... where can I get the IBM mic.? thanks papadave55@hotmail.com ps (maybe you should buy another) >From: Pierre LIONNET >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: OT: Sharp MD 702 >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:20:47 +0200 > >I have had a sharp MD portable recorder for a little over one year now... >And I used it extensively, almost 4 to 10 hours a day on average for both >recording and listening. I used to carry it along with me all the time to >capture sounds and noises. > >It worked well, except you can really feel the difference between the >recording and the original (the ATRAC compression is very hard with hissing >sounds - it gets rid of 'em, as well as with scratches, hums and ambience >noises) when you record sampled music. Actually I have the feeling that the >recordings sound very polished compared to the original and this is only >due to the ATRAC compression. Sounds like the very old fashioned DOLBY A of >the low end tape recorders of the early eighties... without the flutter. > >Regarding recording from a microphone I had my best results (strangely >enough) with the little microphone that was supplied with my IBM >computer... don't ask why or how: crystal clear sound with no audible >difference from the original. But then I used it only to record speech and >ambient sounds (trains pasing by, cars in traffic jams etc.). > >As a whole I have been happy with the unit until the warranty expired >(after 12 months) and 4 days (repeat FOUR DAYS) after it broke down... >The unit is now useless, and *FUNNY* enough it CANNOT be repaired (at least >not here in PARIS France) because the repairmen cannot run the routine >TESTS on the unit which is not able anymore to support them. Indeed the >problem is that the unit cannot access anymore the Table of Contents of >whatever MD you slot in. Of course it will not be replaced (warranty >expired...) >Note that the unit was not dropped, nor exposed to excessive heat or >whatever. > >I may have been unlucky, but I believe others may face the same problem, so >BEWARE. > >Also you HAVE to know that you cannot always EDIT (and sometimes not even >REPRODUCE) the music recorded on a MD by a given model with another >model... > >My next buy wil be a CD recorder instead, I am also fed up with the price >of blank MDs (an average 25-30 French francs where a blank CD is less than >10 Francs). But what am I gonna do with my MD collection? > >Good Bye > >PiR - FreezerMan > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 10:13:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03901; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:13:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:13:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Mr. Bungle anyone? In-Reply-To: <37CAD6C7.E22D088F@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"XV3Zi2.0.gt6.2izot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com they played up in a place called Cameron Park (in Placer County near Sacramento County) about a month or so ago, i'd imagine that was around the time they were in SF also... On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Jim Poppen wrote: [.Mike, [. [.Over ten years ago, Mr. Bungle played the Phoenix theater in Petaluma. [.Out walks Patton wearing football-style shoulder pads, spandex pants, [.and a GIANT dildo strapped to his forehead. Their opening song was a [.spot-on cover of Prince's "Nothing Compares To You" (or is it "2 U"?). [.The dramatic irony was hysterical. Later, Patton performed simulated [.fellatio on the bassist (who had fake blood streaming from his mouth). [.Their musical expertise totally blew me away, (no pun intended, I [.swear). Do you know off hand if they'll be playing San Francisco anytime [.soon? Are they keeping up with the insane stage antics? [. [.Jim [. [.Mike Biffle wrote: [.> [.> Fridays show in Santa Cruz at Palookaville was amazing! Having not heard their new release, I wasn't aware of their addition of ethereal Beach Boys style harmonies with a twist... Amazing display of musicianship from everyone. [.> [.> I also didn't know that Mike Patton played keys. Sometimes singing with one, two and sometimes a third mic as well as tweaking his vocal processors with dsp's AND triggering samples and synth sounds with filter tricks while singing, Mike Patton went b eyond any singer I've ever seen. With the possible exception of formal electronic music treatments. Sounds ranging from demonic shrieking to classic jazz singing to animal, jungle and industrial noise effects came from his vocals and signal processors. [.> [.> On the looping front, it seemed like there were at least a few and possibly more segments of looped samples as the basic skeleton which the rest of the band (and sometimes not) played with. While it was somewhat obvious to me, It also seemed entirely seamless and appropriate and was definitely not distracting in any way. The fact that as a band they were capable of incredible flash cut changes of sound, dynamics, timbre and genre completely overshadowed any of the canned parts which we've all mentione d in previous discussions here. [.> [.> Don't know the name of the rest of the gang, but it was Bass-Vox, Sax-Flute-Keys, Percussion (Patton said the percussionist was a UCSC music professor, Walter ???), Drums, Guitar-Keys-Vox (Spruance), Vox-Keys (Patton). [.> [.> Guitar sounds were great from Trey Spruance and he went direct. Looked like he had a Marshal JMP 1 rack tube pre as well as a Line 6 floorboard and possibly a POD. Just a house monitor, no amp. Some wailing fat surf sounds as well as great tremolo stu ff and of course the requisite heavy metal sorts of sounds. He also played keys much of the time. [.> [.> There was some great schtick from Patton where he asked if any of Walter's students were out there and if they actually learned anything "from this clown"... One guy said he learned snare drum and Mike screamed "Well get the fuck up here NOW!!!" and t hey got the drummer's snare out there for him to play. He played a long fast roll with Patton holding one of his processed mics over it. Patton then said "Hey... I thought that was pretty good, but Walter still thinks YOU SUCK!!! SO GEDDOUTTAHERE!!!!!!!" The guy actually took it very well and it was a good laugh. Not sure if it was staged, but it was very funny. [.> [.> Anyway... it was an awesome show, but it was also awesomely loud with real ear damage capability. I'm sorry I only had bar napkins threre to stuff in my ears. Woke up with my ears ringing... Full house all ages show as well... Great audience and no si gn of violence... lots of smiling faces despite the extreme content and aggression of the music. High marks for audience vibe! [.> [.> best to all... [.> -Miko [.> [.> Miko Biffle "Running scared from all the usual distractions..." [.> mbiffle@svg.com [. [. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 10:14:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03978; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:14:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:14:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990831094045.00fdf5a0@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: km15@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:40:45 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: kevin miller Subject: Re: EDP -- submitted requests, SO FAR In-Reply-To: <47f58d58.24fcb01c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"iqFPx2.0.A57.sjzot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:12 AM 08/31/1999 EDT, you wrote: >Take me off the list -- I bought an EDP from fmpaulus/kevin c. > >kevin But please leave me on it! Thanks, a further different Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 10:35:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09860; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:35:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:35:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <37CBE089.5A0@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:02:49 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: midi controllers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"39Bpb1.0.HR.d4-ot"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone in loopland use(or abuse) a Ground Control midi footcontroller? If so, what sayeth you on the virtues, or flaws, of this device. Any info on this, or any other midi controller, would be of great use to me, and really appreciated. Thanks, Zwaan. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 13:27:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21758; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:27:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:27:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: midi controllers Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:07:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37CBE089.5A0@earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"AmD9S2.0.J74.Xl0pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Somewhere buried on my page is some ifo about the GC and its limitations/strengths- also there is a description on how I use mine. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > > Does anyone in loopland use(or abuse) a Ground Control midi > footcontroller? If so, what sayeth you on the virtues, or flaws, of this > device. Any info on this, or any other midi controller, would be of > great use to me, and really appreciated. Thanks, Zwaan. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 13:30:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22187; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:30:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:30:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0DB57CD@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: moRE: Mr. Bungle anyone? Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:12:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"hBp5p1.0.IZ4.vt0pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would highly recommend the first mike patton solo cd on tzadik, adult themes for voice and microphone (or something like that). one of the more in your face cds i think. done in between sound checks and gigs in hotel rooms around the world during a faith no more tour or so. some sort of 4-track recorder with some effects, patton doing his vocalizations and pounding on tables and such. my lasting impression is of some salesman in his room being woken up at three in the morning and trying to figure out what in hell is going on in the room above . . . second cd on tzadik is also quite nice. stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 14:00:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30210; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:00:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:00:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:47:07 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: The Fall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"e_2BY.0.KS6.3J1pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering if anyone had information on The Fall and what kind of equipment they've been incorporating into their newer material. They've always been the kings of repetition, but lately it seems they're using looped techniques in their live sets, I was dancing too much to sit and analyze what equipment they were using the last time I saw them, which in retrospect was quite awhile ago. [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 14:24:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04699; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:24:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:24:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: wb5150@earthlink.net Message-ID: <37CC171A.5FFA@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:55:38 -0400 Reply-To: wb5150@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NSCP (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: midi controllers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YSnHo2.0.uB7.uU1pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Future Perfect wrote: > > Somewhere buried on my page is some ifo about the GC and its > limitations/strengths- also there is a description on how I use mine. > > Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices > http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave > > > > > > > Does anyone in loopland use(or abuse) a Ground Control midi > > footcontroller? If so, what sayeth you on the virtues, or flaws, of this > > device. Any info on this, or any other midi controller, would be of > > great use to me, and really appreciated. Thanks, Zwaan. > > > > Thanks, Dave, I gleaned some useful info from you page. Zwaan. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 15:25:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22095; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:25:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:25:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <9B6D04348808D311B1EE0090277A40A7AD99F0@usilms12.cai.com> From: "Lanpheer, James" To: "Looper's Delight" Subject: Echoplex memory upgrade. Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:13:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"8xYR43.0.je4.Mc2pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Basic question: Is it important that the SIMMs that install to upgrade the memory be the same type as the one already in the module? More specifically: To max out my Echoplex, do i need 4 SIMMs or will 3 (and leaving the one already in there) do the job? Cheers! Jim. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 17:04:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15236; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990831204918.14989.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:49:18 -0700 (PDT) From: chris lujan Subject: Re: boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"1gg8z.0.ym2.L_3pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I got my Boomerang(1 minute) at Guitar Center for $350. You just have to know who to talk to and how to sweet talk them. - Chris --- Russell wrote: > Robb's Music in Boulder has the Boomerang for > $425.00, but they only have a few in stock. > Peace > Russell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Godf852195@aol.com > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: boomerang > > > I have the current Muscian's Friend catalog and they > have it listed at > $599.00 and their price is $479.99 > > copy: > Bommerang 4MB Phrase Sampler > A real-time tool for loopers! Creates loops up to 4 > minutes long. Layers > additional parts in forward or reverse. Even lets > you play reverse leads > live! Adjustable input level. Unique foot roller > volume controller. Ruggd > steel chassis. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 17:05:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA15949; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:05:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:05:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: Opcode says they have never heard of the Echoplex Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:38:46 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3B6.26196AF0" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: High In-Reply-To: <000701be5ac6$1374d1c0$578242d8@soo> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"5sCp_.0.rv1.in3pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3B6.26196AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just talked to a rep at Opcode who told me that the Oberheim/Gibson/Opcode merger never actually took place, and that they aren't going to be releasing the echoplex any time soon, or at all, since they've never heard of it. Does >anyone< know what the real deal is? I'm absolutely sick of waiting for these to come out. All together now: Everyone call Gibson at 1-800-4GIBSON then call Opcode at (650) 429-2400 bIz -----Original Message----- From: sooh [mailto:sooh@direct.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:37 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: help i am looking for an obreheim digital echoplex really badly. I'm in canada and gibson up here is useless! could anyone help thanx sean vancesean@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3B6.26196AF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I just=20 talked to a rep at Opcode who told me that the Oberheim/Gibson/Opcode = merger=20 never actually took place, and that they aren't going to be releasing = the=20 echoplex any time soon, or at all, since they've never = heard of=20 it.
 
Does=20 >anyone< know what  the real deal is? I'm absolutely sick of = waiting=20 for these to come out.
 
All=20 together now:
 
Everyone call Gibson at=20 1-800-4GIBSON
 
then call Opcode at (650)=20 429-2400
bIz
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sooh=20 [mailto:sooh@direct.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 = 2:37=20 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject:=20

help i am looking for an obreheim = digital=20 echoplex really badly. I'm in canada and gibson up here is useless! = could=20 anyone help
thanx sean
vancesean@hotmail.com
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BEF3B6.26196AF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 17:41:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24489; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:41:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:41:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199908312130.OAA03157@scv1.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:30:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Opcode says they have never heard of the Echoplex From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3018961814_5186343_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <"tFFHD.0.3a5.1e4pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3018961814_5186343_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd have to say that Gibson/Oberheim hasn't been tremendously responsive to date. Perhaps they're moving office. Again. I just called Gibson, and was passed to the voice mail of a Michael Something. I left a message asking for an update on production status, etc. If you call Gibson, I'd suggest hitting option 3 for Customer Relations, and then asking to talk to someone about buying a new Echoplex and see what happens. TH ---------- From: Jonathan El-Bizri To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Opcode says they have never heard of the Echoplex Date: Tue, Aug 31, 1999, 3:38 PM I just talked to a rep at Opcode who told me that the Oberheim/Gibson/Opcode merger never actually took place, and that they aren't going to be releasing the echoplex any time soon, or at all, since they've never heard of it. Does >anyone< know what the real deal is? I'm absolutely sick of waiting for these to come out. All together now: Everyone call Gibson at 1-800-4GIBSON then call Opcode at (650) 429-2400 bIz -----Original Message----- From: sooh [mailto:sooh@direct.ca] Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:37 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: help i am looking for an obreheim digital echoplex really badly. I'm in canada and gibson up here is useless! could anyone help thanx sean vancesean@hotmail.com --MS_Mac_OE_3018961814_5186343_MIME_Part Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Opcode says they have never heard of the Echoplex I'd have to say that Gibson/Oberheim hasn't been tremendously responsive to= date.  Perhaps they're moving office.  Again.
I just called Gibson, and was passed to the voice mail of a Michael Somethi= ng.  I left a message asking for an update on production status, etc. &= nbsp;If you call Gibson, I'd suggest hitting option 3 for Customer Relations= , and then asking to talk to someone about buying a new Echoplex  and s= ee what happens.

TH

----------
From: Jonathan El-Bizri <jbiz@linkexchange.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject: Opcode says they have never heard of the Echoplex
Date: Tue, Aug 31, 1999, 3:38 PM


 
I just talked to a = rep at Opcode who told me that the Oberheim/Gibson/Opcode merger never actua= lly took place, and that they aren't going to be releasing the echoplex any = time soon, or at all, since they've never heard of it.
 
Does >anyone<= know what  the real deal is? I'm absolutely sick of waiting for these = to come out.
 
All together now:  
Everyone call Gibso= n at 1-800-4GIBSON
 
then call Opcode at= (650) 429-2400
bIz
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: sooh [mailto:sooh@direct.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 2:37 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
Subject:

help i am looking for an obreheim digita= l echoplex really badly. I'm in canada and gibson up here is useless! could = anyone help
thanx sean
vancesean@hotmail.com

--MS_Mac_OE_3018961814_5186343_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 17:56:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA28407; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:56:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:56:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: James Pearce X-Sender: jamesrp@iris To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: something of interest... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"0DUP.0.E05.SW4pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ...to some of you on this list (hope so): ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DATE=8/30/1999 TYPE=BACKGROUND REPORT TITLE=DUDUK MASTER NUMBER=5-44167 BYLINE=MIKE O'SULLIVAN DATELINE=LOS ANGELES CONTENT= VOICED AT: INTRO: One of the masters of an Armenian wind instrument called the "duduk" (doo-'dook) is taking his music to a wider audience. Djivan Gasparyan (jee- 'vahn gah-spahr-ee-'ahn) records melodies for movie sound tracks. As Mike O'Sullivan reports, he also collaborates with a Western jazz artist to extend the range of the traditional instrument. TEXT: The duduk produces a haunting, romantic sound, like this from the tune "Eshkhemet" from Djivan Gasparyan's album called "Duduk." /// MUSIC ACT -- establish and fade /// The Armenian wind instrument can also produce lively dance music for celebrations. /// MUSIC ACT -- establish and fade /// The duduk is a double-reed instrument that looks like an ancient oboe. It is native to Armenia, made of wood from the region's famous apricot trees. Duduk master Djivan Gasparyan lives in the city of Yerevan, where he teaches at the Yerevan Conservatory. At 70, he is widely regarded as one the country's leading players. He has also emerged as an international musician, recording background music for 18 films, including "Russia House," "The Crow," "The Siege," and "Dead Men Walking." Two years ago, Djivan Gasparyan became known to jazz fans through his collaborative album with Canadian jazz guitarist Michael Brook. Their album is called "Black Rock," and they have performed numerous joint concerts in North America and Europe. Djivan Gasparyan says he is expanding the instrument's range. /// MUSIC AND GASPARYAN ACT (Armenian with translation /// It's duduk in its own new variation, rather than the old accepted, heard, loved and cherished duduk as a folk instrument. /// END ACT -- fade music under narration /// Los Angeles music producer Dickran Bezirgenian (dik- 'ran bez-ir-gen-ee-'ahn) -- who is also Djivan Gasparyan's U-S manager -- believes the duduk appeals to audiences outside Armenia because of its simplicity. It recalls the instrument's origin thousands of years ago as a means of entertainment for shepherds. /// BEZIRGENIAN ACT /// I think it is the yearning of going back to the good old days. With all this technology and electronic involvement in instrumentation, this is like a message from the old world, that things are fine. And it's kind of like a yearning back to nature, because duduk is a wind instrument coming from nature. The world in general is mesmerized because it's a beautiful instrument. /// END ACT /// Musician Djivan Gasparyan says the duduk is becoming more popular with young people in Armenia, while it adapts to its new role as an instrument of world music. (Again, he speaks through his manager, Dickran Bezirgenian.) /// GASPARYAN ACT -- Armenian with translation -- ends with music /// Not only does he (Gasparyan) have solo performances on a daily basis. He has a duet, quartet, sextet, and almost 40 or 50 piece duduk ensemble choir. And he has actually improvised from the dukuk -- bass, alto, tenor, and soprano instruments, (creating) his own instruments and improvisations. /// END ACT -- run music under out-tro and signoff /// The large ensemble groups have not yet been recorded, but duduk master Djivan Gasparyan says they will be one day. His traditional music is available on a number of C- Ds. His joint album with Michael Brook, called "Black Rock," is on Real World Records. (Signed) /// OPT -- Raise Music /// NEB/PT 30-Aug-1999 18:42 PM LOC (30-Aug-1999 2242 UTC) NNNN Source: Voice of America ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [.jamesrp@statenet.com.] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 19:28:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18149; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:28:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:28:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: Gibson update Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:18:24 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"1rnpD2.0.tZ3.S76pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just talked to a customer support rep at Gibson who seemed a little more in the know. He said he was talking to one of the hardware developers working on the echoplex, and that as of 2 weeks ago the developer was able to get hold of an original EDP to make a schematic from. Since it's going to take them a little longer than a two weeks to work out a schematic, design, build and produce the new product, anyone who was waiting out for a new echoplex to be released (like myself) is screwed. David Kirkdorffer, would you mind sending your list of committed buyers to Line6, Lexicon, Digitech, Roland, Korg, Akai and any other companies you can think might possibly build us a looping device. You might also want to show them how much they go for on ebay. bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 19:51:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23310; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:51:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:51:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:42:54 EDT Subject: Re: Gibson update To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Resent-Message-ID: <"mpe0U2.0.DL5.6Z6pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 8/31/99 10:28:11 PM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, jbiz@linkexchange.com writes: << David Kirkdorffer, would you mind sending your list of committed buyers to Line6, Lexicon, Digitech, Roland, Korg, Akai and any other companies you can think might possibly build us a looping device. You might also want to show them how much they go for on ebay. >> how about an echorang or a boomaplex.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 20:00:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25845; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:00:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:00:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: tcn62@ici.net Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908312348.QAA01449@slowworm.ebay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#153704042: Roberts Roto-Neck Guitar Limited Edition #35 X-Mailer: Resent-Message-ID: <"PYnIe2.0.eg5.ve6pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have any of you ever seen one of these bizarre creatures? Title of item: Roberts Roto-Neck Guitar Limited Edition #35 Seller: pawnbroker@mindspring.com Starts: 08/27/99, 10:10:37 PDT Ends: 09/03/99, 10:10:37 PDT Price: Currently $152.50 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=153704042 Item Description: Roberts Roto-Neck Guitar Limited Edition #35This is a guitar you may never see again. A Roberts ROTO-NECK. This is a signed Limited Edition 1st run #35. Included is a video of the inventor showing how it is played, the certificate, sales info, custom made strap and anvil type hard case. It is in new condition. Other than being fondled this has never been played. It has six strings on both sides. It is played by using your opposing thumb to play bar chords while your fingers play lead. Your other thumb strums the chord while your fingers pluck the lead. I know, it seems weird. It really has an interesting sound. In '92 this sold for $2500. My reserve is much lower.Terms and Conditions: This is an auction and you are expected to honor your bids. If you cannot honor this bid contract please do not bid. Payment is required in advance. All payment must be made in US currency. We accept personal checks, Cashiers Checks, and Money Orders. Please allow a minimum of 10 days for perso! nal checks to clear. Layaway service is available on most items, call for details before bidding. The buyer is responsible for all shipping, handling and insurance charges on this item. I will quote shipping to winning bidder. California residents must pay 7.75% sales tax. We cannot ship outside of the continental United States. Please include the eBay item # in all email correspondence. Items paid for with money order or certified check will be shipped within two business days. Registered eBay users may be allowed to pay by credit card.Listing created with Pre-Lister 3.0.7 for Macintosh Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Aug 31 23:04:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04446; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:04:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:04:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: Gibson update Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:52:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"L9XA91.0.WG.7J9pt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, in the mean time, what about the Echoplex upgrade???? ETA???? Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave 'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > David Kirkdorffer, would you mind sending your list of committed buyers to > Line6, Lexicon, Digitech, Roland, Korg, Akai and any other > companies you can > think might possibly build us a looping device. You might also > want to show > them how much they go for on ebay.