From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 02:58:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA11575; Sat, 1 May 1999 02:58:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 02:58:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372A5949.47F4663@erols.com> Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 02:31:35 +0100 From: "J.G. Wong" Reply-To: adaaxs@erols.com Organization: Uplink Hill Access Consulting / Tokusatsu Access Archive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: GlissandoRods References: <199904300706.DAA06836@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C87247536E5E934F3F1AFC20" Resent-Message-ID: <"FX83n1.0.ry1.QvfAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C87247536E5E934F3F1AFC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I am running low on Glissando rods. The Gong . Daevid Allen et al. I saw a recent photo of him using something that did not look so much like the originals. Anybody know or haver any suggestions on a replacement device. TIA Fiveman --------------C87247536E5E934F3F1AFC20 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="adaaxs.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for J.G. Wong Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="adaaxs.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.angelfire.com/pa/Tokusatsuaccess adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note;quoted-printable:An educated man is to an uneducared man as are the living to the dead.=0D=0A=0D=0AAristottle=0D=0A=0D=0ASuccess breeds arrogance. Arrogance breeds failure. Don't call me til you get over it. x-mozilla-cpt:;3 end:vcard --------------C87247536E5E934F3F1AFC20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 03:43:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA16451; Sat, 1 May 1999 03:43:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 03:43:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: XJ32@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 03:12:36 EDT Subject: Digitech 7.6 Timemachine To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"3ZQAM2.0.WN3.VdgAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have 2 near mint Digitech 7.6 time machines. If any one is interested make me an offer. Thanks and happy looping. - Paul (Ma Ja Le) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 05:25:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA27927; Sat, 1 May 1999 05:25:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 05:25:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 02:05:40 -0700 From: "Esteban Delgado" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Kyma (was Re: Jamman on ebay.) X-Sender-Ip: 209.212.192.49 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kUqbX2.0.8N6.NIiAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My apologies if this was already discussed, but what's a Kyma system? Thanks, Steve Delgado On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:29:37 Dennis W. Leas wrote: >Eric, keep me posted on the Kyma system. I REALLY want one but I'm gonna have to wait. Something about buying a house right now... > >I'm quite interested in your opinion of the Kyma. It looks like the ultimate system to me right now. > >Dennis Leas >----------------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Williamson > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:47 PM > Subject: Jamman on ebay. > > > From the guy who brought you ebay's last $700 JamMan, an announcement of my intent to fund a Kyma system with the funds raised from $700 JamMen auctions. Selling my Echoplexen got me my Hammond organ & three Leslies, the Jammen (who are inexplicibly worth more) will get me my Kyma box. The URL is: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97701200 > > also, check out my tunes at http://www.mp3.com/artists/13/the_suit_and_tie_guy_band.html , I used an Echoplex on the dub tune (#13 on the mp3.com dub reggae chart). > > Keep Loopin, > Eric Williamson aka Suit & Tie Guy > --- Peoria's finest ambient bitch --- > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 10:31:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA27602; Sat, 1 May 1999 10:31:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:31:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990501141100.26555.rocketmail@web208.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: petr dolak Subject: LOOPS AND COFFEE IN OHIO To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"F71-h3.0.lA6.HlmAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com LOOPS AND COFFEE IN OHIO Petr Dolák's shows, Cleveland area electric and acoustic guitar, looping devices, percussion, accidental instruments May 6, CLEVELAND; Arabica, 13220 Shaker Square; 7:30 pm. May 15, AKRON; Arabica, 1688 W Market St.; 8:30 pm. May 22, MENTOR; Arabica, 7641 Mentor Ave; 8 pm. === Nasledujici oznameni je bohuzel nevyhnutelne. V zadnem pripade ale neznamena, ze bych osobne chtel propagovat tuto spolecnost. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 14:16:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA26698; Sat, 1 May 1999 14:16:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:16:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372B4138.2F732D34@magelang.com> Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:00:24 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: Kyma (was Re: Jamman on ebay.) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"k2Uff2.0.Aw5.u4qAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You can get info from www.symbolicsound.com. You can also search the Loopers-Delight archives for random posts. jim Esteban Delgado wrote: > > My apologies if this was already discussed, but what's a Kyma system? Thanks, > > Steve Delgado > > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:29:37 Dennis W. Leas wrote: > >Eric, keep me posted on the Kyma system. I REALLY want one but I'm gonna have to wait. Something about buying a house right now... > > > >I'm quite interested in your opinion of the Kyma. It looks like the ultimate system to me right now. > > > >Dennis Leas > >----------------------------- > >dennis@mdbs.com > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eric Williamson > > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:47 PM > > Subject: Jamman on ebay. > > > > > > From the guy who brought you ebay's last $700 JamMan, an announcement of my intent to fund a Kyma system with the funds raised from $700 JamMen auctions. Selling my Echoplexen got me my Hammond organ & three Leslies, the Jammen (who are inexplicibly worth more) will get me my Kyma box. The URL is: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=97701200 > > > > also, check out my tunes at http://www.mp3.com/artists/13/the_suit_and_tie_guy_band.html , I used an Echoplex on the dub tune (#13 on the mp3.com dub reggae chart). > > > > Keep Loopin, > > Eric Williamson aka Suit & Tie Guy > > --- Peoria's finest ambient bitch --- > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 15:42:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA06812; Sat, 1 May 1999 15:42:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:42:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE9419.1B3DA2B0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters Reply-To: Michel Redolfi To: "'acoustic-ecology@sfu.ca'" , "'Ambient-Digest'" , "'Loopers Delight'" , "'Powerspot'" Cc: "'mpeters@csi.com'" , "'Michel Redolfi'" Subject: last call for contributors: EARTH SOUNDS FOR SPACE ) ) ) ) ) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:24:46 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Hz-TP3.0.W51.oIrAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Last call for contributors: EARTH SOUNDS FOR SPACE ) ) ) ) ) if you have an interesting short sound, please send it to Michel Redolfi - he will include it into his Earth Sounds for Space sound collection which will be performed on May 6 (see below). Please check out the earth sounds website (see below) for more information about the project, accepted formats etc. * * * * * ( ( ( ( ( E A R T H S O U N D S F O R S P A C E ) ) ) ) ) * * * A global sonic event featuring Y O U To be premiered at the STAR TRACKS concert series AMSTERDAM PLANETARIUM M A Y 6 , 1 9 9 9 * * * * * * On MAY 6, to celebrate the final show of STAR TRACKS - a series of electronic music concerts presented at the Amsterdam Planetarium, host Michel Redolfi will end the program with EARTH SOUNDS FOR SPACE, a collection of personal sounds - YOURS ! - received via the Web and assembled to create a sonic portrait of Earth in 1999. After the Amsterdam presentation produced by the YSBREKER Music Center, this collective montage will be placed on a CD and submitted to NASA and ESA (European Space Agency), which have expressed interest in launching it in future space programs. The goal of EARTH SOUNDS FOR SPACE is to update and extend a similar project created by Carl Sagan. The LP he compiled, entitled "Murmurs of Earth", was stowed aboard the Voyager spacecraft in 1977 in the hope that it would be discovered in the future by some extraterrestrial listener. Today Voyager and its sonic message continue to race from our solar system at speeds of over 35,000 kph... Be a part of the 1999 project by contributing to the next world sound signature. ONE DAY, SOMEONE MAY HEAR YOU (screaming, laughing, honking, etc...) IN OUTER SPACE. * * * Visit the site EARTH SOUNDS FOR SPACE for further information, including details on how to submit your sound http://www.imaginet.fr/manca/joy/earthsounds/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 1 20:28:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA03287; Sat, 1 May 1999 20:28:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 20:28:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00aa01be942e$ca40bf80$172310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "J.G. Wong" , Subject: Re: GlissandoRods Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:58:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"7kB1B2.0.Rw7.kJvAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What are GlissandoRods? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 2 07:12:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA18385; Sun, 2 May 1999 07:12:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:12:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990502104631.006cf9bc@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 12:46:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leo Cavallo Subject: didgeridoo info Resent-Message-ID: <"BUsGV.0.qC4.qt2Bt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I remember that on the list there are few guys playing these beasts... I've just bought one to add its sound to my sampling and looping setup... any link about the didgeridoo? mailing list? suggestions? infos? thnx ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 2 11:25:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA02614; Sun, 2 May 1999 11:25:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:25:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000e01be9487$5cfaf900$e9b7bace@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Re: didgeridoo info Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:34:27 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"J0BaL2.0.wk7.oD6Bt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Steve Roach uses one sparingly along with a multitude of other sounds - although there is a lot of info at the site, if you poke around you will eventually find the importance of the didgeridoo in his sound. http://www.steveroach.com/ Gerry P gerryp@air.on.ca -----Original Message----- From: Leo Cavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: didgeridoo info >I remember that on the list there are few guys playing these beasts... >I've just bought one to add its sound to my sampling and looping setup... >any link about the didgeridoo? mailing list? suggestions? infos? > >thnx >ciao >leo > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 2 16:17:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA28922; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:17:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:17:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372CA7F1.33DB7FB1@magelang.com> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 13:30:57 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: didgeridoo info References: <2.2.32.19990502104631.006cf9bc@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"PQU0d.0.M16.xVABt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Look to see if you can find a CD by Dr. Didg, he loops his digeridoo through an echoplex. jim Leo Cavallo wrote: > > I remember that on the list there are few guys playing these beasts... > I've just bought one to add its sound to my sampling and looping setup... > any link about the didgeridoo? mailing list? suggestions? infos? > > thnx > ciao > leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 2 19:25:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA15722; Sun, 2 May 1999 19:25:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 19:25:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990502223012.006d03c0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:30:12 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leo Cavallo Subject: didgeridoo info Resent-Message-ID: <"tE6Rl.0.UW2.HCDBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thnx you all for the infos ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 2 20:33:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA22894; Sun, 2 May 1999 20:33:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 20:33:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372CDF1A.7C55348C@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 16:26:21 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: didgeridoo info References: <2.2.32.19990502104631.006cf9bc@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zu7S_2.0.9n3.svDBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Leo Cavallo wrote: > I remember that on the list there are few guys playing these beasts... > I've just bought one to add its sound to my sampling and looping setup... > any link about the didgeridoo? mailing list? suggestions? infos? > > thnx > ciao > leo check out: didgeridoo mailing list to join, send an email to listproc@eartha.mills.edu with nothing in the body but: subscribe didjeridu your name. nothing in the subject field peace, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 10:38:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA22103; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:38:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:38:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <01a501be956a$8a4c70d0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: didgeridoo info Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:40:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"0goqO1.0.aY3.raQBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Good didjeridu websites: http://www.mills.edu/LIFE/CCM/DIDJERIDU/index.html http://www.well.com/user/nhunter/didj/ http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/wellerville/164/didgelinks.html http://www.pacificnet.net/~mtemple/physics.htm http://www.didgeridoings.com/ http://www.aboriginalart.com.au/ Caution! Beware! You will probably contract DIDJERIDU FEVER! This incurable ailment manifest itself as sprees of buying more didjeridus. (One of the many tragic stories: "It started with one. Maybe a friend gave it to me as a gift. I can't remember. My memory is a blur. Before I knew it I had three, then four and five. Then I lost count. Eventually, as my consciousness returned, I found myself seated in a circle with other didjeriduists, PLAYING TOGETHER and SHARING DIDJERIDUS. Oh, the horror!") Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Leo Cavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 6:14 AM Subject: didgeridoo info >I remember that on the list there are few guys playing these beasts... >I've just bought one to add its sound to my sampling and looping setup... >any link about the didgeridoo? mailing list? suggestions? infos? > >thnx >ciao >leo > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 10:59:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA26325; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:59:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:59:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Edward_Chang@amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: edward_chang@mail.amsinc.com Message-ID: <85256766.004DE510.09@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:15:49 -0400 Subject: Spin-17 gig spam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"hT2cZ3.0.Yc4.w_QBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry about the last minute nature of this but here's a couple of Spin-17 related gig announcements... NOW.. MONDAY, MAY 3 (today) The Moment Of @The Knitting Factory/AlterKnit Theatre 7pm $5 74 Leonard St (212) 219-3006 Motoko Shimizu ++ Ed Chang ++ John Kennedy Voice -- Turntables -- Guitar -- Sax -- Drums -- Found Objects "2 members of Spin-17 with the man behind Cyclops Joint" This won't feature the clenched-tongue, genre-splitting attempted irony of Spin-17, but will be a free-improvised noise sonata celebrating the irreconciliable differences between thud-metal. skronk-jazz and New Age music (yeah, right). AND THEN... SUNDAY, MAY 9 (Mother's Day) Spin-17 with special co-conspirator DONALD MILLER @The Knitting Factory/AlterKnit Theatre (again) 9pm $6 74 Leonard St (212) 219-3006 Featuring: Ed Chang on ** Electronics ** Homemade Objects of Aural Destruction Motoko Shimizu on ** Voice ** Self-Destructing records on Semi-Functional Turntable Donald Miller on ** What looks like a guitar but sounds like a lawnmower being chainsawed in half. This, too will not be a typical Spin-17 show, but more a free-improv impression of a grand piano being drawn and quartered. We think. But then again we've seen DM play some hellbent slide-blues, too. Anyways, come on down, we'd love to see you and find out how you're doing! And here's a recent review of our CD recently published in EMI (Experimental Musical Instruments) Magazine (March): "Under the name Spin-17, Ed Chang (electronics, clarinet, guitar, tapes, turntable) and Motoko Shimizu (voice, turntable, toys, gizmos, guitar) make some of the most inventive, and some of the funnest and funniest sounds you will have heard in quite some time. Lots of emphasis on innate sound quality; less emphasis on harmony, melody or countable rhythm; but with its playfulness and humor, the music does not have the abstract feeling often associated with pure sound exploration." CD available at Downtown Music Gallery and Kim's Music and Video on St Mark's Place. Finally, email me back if you want to get off this "list". %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 11:45:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA03054; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:45:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:45:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <01ea01be9572$6732deb0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Request for EDP info (HELP!) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:36:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Smke-2.0.no5.eQRBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, this message is directed at you but I'm posting it to the list since others may find it interesting. I don't understand enough about how the EDP generates and uses MIDI sync. I've read the EDP manual several times, the FAQ on the Looper's Delight website, and other MIDI books like "MIDI for the Professional." (Pages 3 and 7 on the FAQ are quite well done, BTW.) Some basic questions I have are: 1) What determines the MIDI clock rate sent by the EDP? 2) How does the 8ths/beat and loop or cycle length affect the clock rate? 3) The manual implies 8ths/beat really means 8ths/cycle, I think. Please clarify. 4) How do multiple cycles per loop affect MIDI syncing? Lots of examples will help. I use two EDPs. One is the master and generates the MIDI clock. The other is the slave. I tried some things this past weekend which confused me. Here is a description. Can you explain what is happening? basic setup: MASTER EDP SLAVE EDP ------------------- ----------------- SYNC out in 8ths/beat 1 1 SwitchQuant cyc cyc MIDI out<---------->MIDI in Notes: a) SYSTEM RESET below means long press on REC of both MASTER and SLAVE followed by long press on MUL of both MASTER and SLAVE b) both EDP have latest software and are fully populated with memory scenario 1 ------------- 1) SYSTEM RESET 2) Make a loop approx 10 sec on SLAVE (REC, wait 10 sec, REC) 3) As expected, the StartPoint decimal point flashed at start of loop; also the Sync decimal point doesn't flash since the SLAVE isn't synced to the MASTER. 4) Also as expected, pressing NextLoop soon after the StartPoint flashes will switch to Loop2 at the end of the first loop. scenario 2 -------------- 1) SYSTEM RESET 2) Make a loop approx 10 sec on MASTER (REC, wait 10 sec, REC) 3) Sync decimal point on the SLAVE flashes 12 times for each time the StartPoint decimal point flashes on the MASTER. 4) Record a loop approx 10 sec on SLAVE (REC, wait 10 sec REC) 5) Pressing NextLoop on SLAVE causes the SLAVE to go to loop 2 before the end of the cycle. It seems to go to loop 2 when the next SyncPoint occurs. Unexpected results/I'm dazed and confused --------------------------------------------------------- 1) When synced to MIDI clock, the slave doesn't seems to pay attention to the SwitchQuant setting of 'Cyc' (but see 3 and 4 below). 2) I expect the SLAVE to record only cycles which are in multiples of the MASTER's cycle time. It does not in scenario 2 above (but see 3 and 4 below). 3) The SLAVE does record only cycles which are in multiples of the MASTER's cycle time if 8ths/beat of the SLAVE = 8ths/beat of the MASTER and not 1 (i.e., 8ths/beat = 2, 3, ..., 20) 4) Also, if 8ths/beat of MASTER and SLAVE is set to 1, the slave does record only cycles which are in multiples of the MASTER's cycle time for short cycles. If the MASTER cycle time if < 5.5 seconds then the SLAVE records multiples. If the MASTER cycle time is >= 5.6 seconds then the slave records non-multiples. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 11:54:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA04778; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:54:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:54:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <273ba699.245f159f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:07:11 EDT Subject: Re: MIDI Controllers with LFOs To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac sub 85 Resent-Message-ID: <"_n2Qh3.0.vw6.QmRBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Re: the discussion about a standalone hardware MIDI source for an LFO, the suggestion about sending an analog LFO into a Peavy 1600, is intriguing. Searching for ready-to-wear analog LFO sources, I found: Big Briar's MoogerFooger Ring Modulator has an LFO out jack; Encore Electronics http://www.encoreelectronics.com has a box called the Expressionist that has 3 on-board LFO's with multiple waveforms, that can be assigned to up to 8 CV outs; Kenton Electronics in the UK http://www.kenton.co.uk/ has several similar boxes to the Expressionist, each with at least one multi-wave LFO feeding CV outs. They also sell a 1600-type thing called a Control Freak that will convert CV ins to MIDI. Don't know if they have a US distributor, or if power supplies are a problem. Of course, there's always the option, on many multiFX, of patching one of these units' CV out to an exp-pedal input. And in every case, there's the question of whether a device without an internal LFO will respond without zippering to an external LFO, either MIDI or CV...depends on the unit, and on the parameter...and on the exact voltage coming in, plus many other imponderables and unpredictables, no doubt, suggesting the need for lots of expensive and time-consuming tests. When I win the Lottery, I will establish a fully-equipped test lab for trying out every possible piece of gear with every other piece, in an endless round of ecstatic purchase-ordering and experimenting. I will allow any interested persons to visit me in my mountain retreat to try out all their fantasy equipment for a nominal fee. Gourmet organic cooking, naked massage, and hot tubs (all facilities equipped with multiple headphone jacks) will be available options. 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CALL 1(800) 600-0343 ext. 1261 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 13:36:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA24951; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:36:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:36:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: floyd@voicenet.com Date: 3 May 1999 17:00:23 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503170023.13529.qmail@unix01.voicenet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Spam Attacks Resent-Message-ID: <"oqAMT.0.IR4.yPTBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, In light of the recent spam messages snet through the looper list, is there some way you can configure the list such that only subscribers can post messages to the list? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 15:40:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA17373; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:40:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:40:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE955B.0101A480@pool008-max2.ds12-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net> From: Bien Appraisers To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Goin' to Taos for vacation - ideas? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:49:04 -0700 Encoding: 33 TEXT Resent-Message-ID: <"XT6iS.0.D22.m0VBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I spent some time in an area called Bandelier National Monument- Beautiful canyons and great hiking- it is outside of Santa Fe and near Albequerque- I don't know if that is close to Taos or not- There are some ancient cave dwellings you can hike to that are great- lots of Native American history in the area- Good luck- Cliff ---------- From: jmw/cmu[SMTP:evening@ulster.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 4:31 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; MAX@LISTS.MCGILL.CA; epsasrts-digest@soundcentral.com Subject: OT: Goin' to Taos for vacation - ideas? My wife & I will be in the Taos, New Mexico area from 5/8 thru 5/22*. Just wondering if anyone on the list has ideas about interesting things to see & do in the area. I'm sure we will have no problem finding the usual tourist traps but sometimes you need inside help to find the really interesting events & performances (the stranger the better). Thanks in advance. John * we'll be attending a workshop on building "Earthships" - completely off-the-grid sustainable housing using recycled tires, timber, bottles & cans. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 17:08:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA01522; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:08:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:08:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901be95a4$20b8a6e0$d33bfea9@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <01BE955B.0101A480@pool008-max2.ds12-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net> Subject: A Request To Test! Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:32:54 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"NALKz2.0.Vj6.kXWBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings All, In an effort to add looping to the web in general, I've been attempting for several years to get both/either Microsoft and/or Netscape to fix the sound playing mechanism used in their browser(s). As you might know from my previous rants on the subject, the process used from the beginning was not a loop, but a repeat, since there was a gap at the end of each complete playing of the sound file. Every time a new revision of Internet Explorer has emerged, I've made a point to test this capability; this morning (several weeks after upgrading to Internet Explorer 5, as well as a new revision of Media Player) it worked. I've put a sample test up at http://www.primenet.com/~sgoodman/elslotwol.html for your testing, at your convenience. The sound file, an .au for size's sake, is only 176KB, enabling a fairly swift download even at 28.8. An email link to me is on the page for the purposes of knowing what happened when you loaded the page. Thanks in advance, everybody. Stephen Goodman * It's the Loop of the Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 17:21:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA03841; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:21:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:21:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990503202925.12460.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [206.129.243.247] From: "Dan Bartell" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MIDI Controllers with LFOs Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:29:25 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"TZZqI3.0.Ad6.VVWBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someting that I have recently found might be of interest. Check out http://www.infusionsystems.com, they have all kinds of MIDI triggers that go into a central "brain" called the I-Cube system that you can program to do ANYTHING. The FarReach, Hot, and Light sensors look very interesting. I plan on going up to Vancouver BC to check them out in person this weekend. -Dan _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 3 23:53:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA03340; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:53:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 23:53:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990504035609.006af61c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: gls@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:56:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Grover Sheffield Subject: NOT LOOP RELATED: Re: Increase Your Sales Up to 1500% Resent-Message-ID: <"vsBoV3.0.TS6.35cBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm getting this one, too. Anything I can do to stop it? -Grover At 09:32 AM 5/3/99 -0700, you wrote: > Are any others on the LD list getting this? Check out the Author... > It's our infamous subscribe/unsubscribe address!? How are they > spamming from there? Or is Kim pitching a new business plan to us? > > -Miko > > >______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ >Subject: Increase Your Sales Up to 1500% From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 07:07:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA10966; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:07:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:07:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905041005.MAA21330@logatome.micronet.fr> X-Sender: plionnet@mail.francenet.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 12:04:40 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Pierre LIONNET Subject: Cheap Samplers (akai s20) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"oSqc33.0.t21.cSiBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was out. Coming back I browsed through the list and saw this question about cheap samplers not being really answered. So, I'm late but better late than never? I have an Akai s20, I can comment it (although it is the one and only sampler I have ever used...). The s20 is a good little machine for its price (I bought it second hand for 2500 French Francs, that's 40% below the shop price... that means about 400 Euro or 420 US dollars). But it has some major flaws. Below I list the good and bad stuff about the Akai. More details on my s20 website (http://persoweb.francenet.fr/~plionnet/FreezerMan/musique.html) but sorry folks: only in FRENCH (that's what I am...). Good stuff: - cheap - with the 16 Mbit SIMM card (you NEED IT) you can store as much as 3-4 minutes of music total in 16 bit mono at 36 Mhz. (less in stereo...) without the card you have only 1Mbit (that's like 10-15 secs of music...). - 8 voice polyphony (that's good for the size: you can play 8 samples together...) - 16 banks (usual low-end samplers have only 8-101 banks). - good for live playing: you can record and loop quite easily in real time (but you can't record a sample while playing a bank!). - MIDI compatible (MIDI OUT IN and THRU) - looks good (personal opinion, some of my friends think its crappy, but then these are those that think the SP 303 looks good... which I personnally disagree with, aah! taste, taste... : it comes in all shapes and forms). - rather small (20cm x 35 cm x9 cm approx) - 4 tracks very basic (super- duper- ultra-basic) sequencer: In short the 'sequencer' is able to record as much as 30.000 steps (I THINK) oin four separate tracks (but you can't playback the tracks one by one....) but no editing of the sequence once its done. At least not with the built-in sequencer. But hey, that's already something. - *easy* looping functions (once you understand how the software works...) - standard save on 3.5 floppy disks. - crisp sound (but then, I read the thread on the SP808 sound... this is my own non-professional user opinion...) some phrases sound even better once sampled than originally. - you can use standard akai sample libraries (I've never used them, but so have I been told). Bad stuff: - diskette drive for saves fully unsufficient (I suggest you buy the SCSI interface, then you can have all your samples on ZIP which is better) - there are NO (repeat: NO) internal save capacities. This is a MAJOR drawback. - cryptic user interface: the display is a 4 digit numerical led display... the information is not easy to understand, read or input... also I have no clue on the unit sued to maesure usal parameters... for instance it measures the *sample length* without using a common time measures (like seconds or clocks). this is still a mystery to me. - limited edit capacities: you can cut at the beginning, at the end of your sample, but you can't cut in the middle. you can alter pitch (but this will alter tempo as well: no time stretching...) there are no filters at all. The sample will sound as you recorded it, no playing on the sound... (except through resampling at 8 bit and 4 bit. There you get a radical change in sound towards the lo-fi...). The coolest edit part is the '*reverse* mode. - shitty manual (at least in French: the grammar is fully approximative...) - you cannot name samples, they are given sequential numbers, if you save on 3.5 floppies you are most likely to see ALL your samples named S 1... cool isn't it? (BTW I don't know how the problem is addressed through SCSI. What can I add: I like the s20, I use it a lot and it serves me right. But I have bought an external sequencer to control it because if you control it manually you are limited. BUT i have the sequencer since one week and there is no way that I undersatnd how I can have it control the s20. This is rough. I know it can be done and I believe help will come soon. Another thing (again!) I have an s20 homepage where I explain how it works for all basic functions which are badly explained in the manual BUT.... I am French and the pafge is French. So you can go and check it out if you can read French. The address is: http://persoweb.francenet.fr/~plionnet/FreezerMan/musique.html If there are specific questions on the s20 I may try to answer them here on the list or personnaly (if they are not relevant to everybody). Bye you all. PiR (aka FreezerMan...) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 07:45:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA14605; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:45:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:45:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372ECB4A.46AD78C6@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 06:26:18 -0400 From: theorcolus Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ambient Fun References: <199905040730.DAA18192@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZJVaC.0.kb1.VliBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Knitting Factory presents: "barrels of ambient fun: David Gross' and Theo Bleckmann's soundscapes will make you trip without the negative side effects of common household drugs (except for a $8 cover). DAVID GROSS: bass and electronics THEO BLECKMANN: voice and electronics Wednesday, May 5th at 9pm at the Alterknit Theatre Knitting Factory 72 Leonard Street (btw) Church and Broadway From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 09:21:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA28489; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:21:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:21:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372EE8B9.935D308E@apex.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 07:31:53 -0500 From: James Devillez Reply-To: grndflor@apex.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: re:NOT LOOP RELATED: Re: Increase Your Sales Up to 1500% Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uv-KP3.0.k35.nWkBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Got the same in yestermornings mail. I havn't posted here, read a lot, and checked out other sites you good people have talked about and most thoroughly enjoy it..Thanks And as far as what Grover spoke of and others..I got a feeling this is going to be more of a sign on the future. At least some of the junk mail you get in your snailbox you can recycle by using to start the grill :-) I'm getting this one, too. Anything I can do to stop it? -Grover From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 10:45:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA11632; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:45:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:45:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:58:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "R. S." Subject: zappa Resent-Message-ID: <"4acb31.0.Pl.irlBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com does anyone have an info on where one can obtain a collection of early zappa photos and/or live recordings? I know Rolling Stone published a photo book, something maybe on that line. z From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 10:47:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA12014; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:47:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:47:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905041411.KAA09492@user1.channel1.com> X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: More shameless plugs Resent-Message-ID: <"v7oy32.0.IJ1.R1mBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There's loops at mp3.com. Two of the four Dreamchild songs that are now up at http://www.mp3.com/dreamchild are loop based pieces, all from our CD, Gates To The Sea. "Sea Horses" is based aound a guitar loop and "The Sirens' Song" is vocal looping. The other two songs, while nifty, have no looping content whatsoever (though live, we use the looping devices to pull 'em off). As these are older cuts, they may not be cutting edge looping technique, but please, check 'em out. Thanks. Frank Gerace Dreamchild From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 11:17:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA17162; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:17:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:17:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <02ad01be963b$0afd93a0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Request for EDP info (HELP!) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:33:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"IY6kd.0.4e2.ESmBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the suggestion. I tried the BrotherSync connection last night and it solved many of the weird things I was seeing. But it leads me to more questions: 1) How do you connect three echoplexes with BrotherSync? Do you use a stereo Y connector? 2) When connected via BrotherSync, the 8ths/beat parameter on either unit does not seem to have an effect. Sometimes I set this parameter differently on the two units. Is this possible with BrotherSync? 3) Should the MIDI-IN be connected to the MIDI-OUT when using BrotherSync? If so, how is the master selected since Sync=out on both units when using BrotherSync. If not so, i.e., if MIDI isn't used, how does the 8ths/beat affect the cycle times? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: JT To: dennis@mdbs.com Date: Monday, May 03, 1999 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Request for EDP info (HELP!) >It sounds to me like you are trying to use MIDI to sync the two units. It >says in the manual (and from my personal experience) to use BrotherSync for >this. You will be a lot happier with the results. > >If you want to sync the units to MIDI, keep the EDPs connected with >BrotherSync. Plug the MIDI cable to the IN on the unit that is controlling >the other one. > >Example: > > Foot Controller > | > | > V >Drum machine (midi out) ---> (midi in) EDP 1 (brother sync) ---> EDP 2 > > >Hope that helps, >JT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 13:43:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA11396; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:43:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:43:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372F2363.B16269D8@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 18:42:11 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: NOT LOOP RELATED: Re: Increase Your Sales Up to 1500% References: <372EE8B9.935D308E@apex.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uPaqN2.0.XR.JOoBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com James Devillez wrote: At least some of the junk mail > you get in your snailbox you can recycle by using to start the grill :-) print the spam it burns too Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 14:16:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA18816; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:16:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:16:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <9ce0ad1a.24608c45@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:45:41 EDT Subject: Re: More shameless plugs (DREAMCHILD) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"MB9TK3.0.133.3BpBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nice. and polished. Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 14:49:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA25718; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:49:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:49:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <02d201be9658$04e7a150$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: EDP DC offset Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:00:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"e0JzP.0.EB4.ZUpBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim described how to adjust the DC offset (I think) of the EDP. I can't find it in the archives. Can somebody tell me? It had something to do with holding down some buttons as the EDP booted and then doing something else... Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 14:59:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA27705; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:59:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:59:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372F3ECF.ACA@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:39:11 -0400 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: G707 vs G303 Guitar synths... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"pH0OD1.0.bf5.wvpBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A rather esoteric question but if anyone can handle someone on this list can. After a year of loving the Roland GR300 synth unit and G303 guitar to death I picked up a GR700 floor unit and G707 guitar. Everything is totally interchangable but i noticed only the G303 has the Hex Fuzz sound and only when pluged into the GR300 unit. The G707 has a similar triposition switch marked Modes 1,2 and 3 but I don't notice any difference between modes 1 and 2 and mode 3 seems to simply turn off the floor unit which seems rather silly as there already is a balance knob on the guitar for that. Can anyone tell me what the modes on the G707 guitar are for? For that matter if anyone has a copy of the Gr700 or G707 manuals I'd could trade any manual for my vast collection or pay costs. As an aside, I'm somehwat dissappointed in the tracking of the GR700 floor unit. The Gr300 is flawless with the G303 guitar and very good with the G707 as well. the Gr700 floor unit glitches like hell on certain patches regardless of the guitar. That said it is a awesome addition when you get the patch just right. as for the G707 guitar, well it is unique. At first I hated it but now that I resigned to having to stand to play it I realize it's good points. Not nearly as playable and comfortable as the G303 but ceratinly much more spaceship looking which could have it place in a live show :) Anyway, any info on the differences in the pickups and such appreciated. Thanks! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 16:13:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA11140; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:13:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:13:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@csi.com Message-ID: <372EEAAA.E415997E@csi.com> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:40:10 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Cheap Samplers (akai s20) References: <199905041005.MAA21330@logatome.micronet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8qfOk1.0.S61.7vqBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com while not exactly cheap, i'm quite satisfied with the mpc2000. the mpc2000 is a GOOD sampler with a GREAT (well, almost) sequencer. the mpc is of course a full-fledged MIDI sequencer, so it's great for selecting program patches on fx units. i'm also starting to use it to control my jamman, which frees up my hands/feet. iow, i can record loops on the jamman while playing to programmed stuff. this requires a fair amount of *arranging* ahead of time but the results can be quite interesting. ttfn, -tmc- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 18:12:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA01859; Tue, 4 May 1999 18:12:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:12:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <372F66BE.D36FF819@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:29:34 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP DC offset References: <02d201be9658$04e7a150$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"td8Gj2.0.fI6.uQsBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What is DC offset and why would it be good to adjust it? I have software that has option to remove dc offset but I don't even know what it is- Does it have to do with running 2 EDP together? Cliff "Dennis W. Leas" wrote: > Kim described how to adjust the DC offset (I think) of the EDP. I can't > find it in the archives. Can somebody tell me? > > It had something to do with holding down some buttons as the EDP booted and > then doing something else... > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 20:05:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA21626; Tue, 4 May 1999 20:05:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:05:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 16:02:08 -0700 Message-ID: <001AEB3F.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: Increase Your Sales Up to 1500% To: Mike.Biffle@wj.com, Phaedebk@aol.com, loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"z2wiE2.0.qv2.wutBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, at least we're all still feeling rather cheery about it... -m ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Increase Your Sales Up to 1500% Author: Phaedebk@aol.com at INTERNET Date: 5/4/99 6:49 PM In a message dated 5/3/99 1:29:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike.Biffle@wj.com writes: << Mike.Biffle@wj.com >> Yeppers, I got SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM! SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM (Horrible SPAM! Horrible SPAM!) Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 23:01:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18472; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:01:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:01:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:50:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Potential vintage Looping in DC Resent-Message-ID: <"ODQlK2.0.Ll1.eHwBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Looper's, this should be a fun event. FingerPaint did a gig with Charles Cohen at the MidAtlantic Loop Show in 1997. Besides his very cool Buchla synth, he was also using on of the coveted EH 16 second delays. Well worth checking out tommorrow night if you dare. I hope to see some of you there. Patrick >++ ++ derek morton > & the velvet lounge present: >______________________________________ >e m e r g e n t m u s i c f o r u m SERIES 3 >__________________________long version >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >A place for adventurous ears and minds. > % >new ideas, avant approaches, electronix, >a community of other styles in modern sound. > > %% > >$3 at the door - mostly wednesday nights at: >the velvet lounge 915 U St. NW WDC > >___________________________________________ >the schedule and such >----- - - - - - - - --- -- - - - - - - - - >Wed 5/5/99 $3 > >[Tigers vs. Tornadoes] > - (Ron Lewis and Clark Sabine ex-Jetsetter fame) >Drums and Keyboards duo for unusual "mathrawk" soundz. > >[Eric Leonardson] > - springboard & electronics (unusual homemade instrument), from Toronto > >[Charles Cohen & Elliot Levin] > - improv electronics and spoken word. >What Charles says.."At EMF I will do textural and rhythmic improvisations >with a Buchla Music Easel. >(www.buchla.com/historical/music_easel/music_easel.html ) >This is an extremely rare integrated analog performance instrument made >by Buchla in about 1975. I bought this instrument from him in 1976 and >have been playing it ever since." >-- >Elliott Levin is a Philadelphia born and based poet and musician. He >studied music and creative writing at the University of Oregon. He also >studied with Michael Guerra (former saxophonist with the Philadelphia >Orchestra), Cecil Taylor (pianist/composer/improvisor), Claire Polin >(flutist/composer), and Odean Pope (saxophonist and composer). > >He has performed internationally with The Cecil Taylor Ensemble, Harold >Melvin & the Blue Notes, New Ghost, Interplay, and Talking Free BeBop. >He has collaborated in performance with many poets, including Miguel >Algarin, Bob Holman, Gloria Troop, Reg E. Gaines, Wil Perkins, Aschak, >and Frank Messina & Spoken Motion. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 23:12:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA20499; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:12:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:12:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001c01be969c$c0640ec0$4a1bbfa8@default> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: G707 vs G303 Guitar synths... Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:12:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"ygnBm2.0.lZ2.jbwBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I forwarded your message to a friend of mine who can help you out probably more than anyone on this list. Jeff BTW, his name is Ken Rubenstein. Just to let you know. -----Original Message----- From: legion To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 2:57 PM Subject: G707 vs G303 Guitar synths... >A rather esoteric question but if anyone can handle someone on this list >can. > >After a year of loving the Roland GR300 synth unit and G303 guitar to >death I picked up a GR700 floor unit and G707 guitar. Everything is >totally interchangable but i noticed only the G303 has the Hex Fuzz >sound and only when pluged into the GR300 unit. The G707 has a similar >triposition switch marked Modes 1,2 and 3 but I don't notice any >difference between modes 1 and 2 and mode 3 seems to simply turn off the >floor unit which seems rather silly as there already is a balance knob >on the guitar for that. > >Can anyone tell me what the modes on the G707 guitar are for? For that >matter if anyone has a copy of the Gr700 or G707 manuals I'd could trade >any manual for my vast collection or pay costs. > >As an aside, I'm somehwat dissappointed in the tracking of the GR700 >floor unit. The Gr300 is flawless with the G303 guitar and very good >with the G707 as well. the Gr700 floor unit glitches like hell on >certain patches regardless of the guitar. That said it is a awesome >addition when you get the patch just right. as for the G707 guitar, well >it is unique. At first I hated it but now that I resigned to having to >stand to play it I realize it's good points. Not nearly as playable and >comfortable as the G303 but ceratinly much more spaceship looking which >could have it place in a live show :) > >Anyway, any info on the differences in the pickups and such >appreciated. > >Thanks! > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion >"Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > >Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and >info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 4 23:49:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA26496; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:49:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:49:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Cheap Samplers (Zoom Sampletrak) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:01:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be96a3$a0b58980$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <372EEAAA.E415997E@csi.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"SIlNa2.0.iY4.BJxBt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For the price, the Zoom Sampletrak looks pretty cool Anybody check one of these out? -----Original Message----- From: r_t_cummings@csi.com [mailto:r_t_cummings@csi.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 8:40 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Cheap Samplers (akai s20) while not exactly cheap, i'm quite satisfied with the mpc2000. the mpc2000 is a GOOD sampler with a GREAT (well, almost) sequencer. the mpc is of course a full-fledged MIDI sequencer, so it's great for selecting program patches on fx units. i'm also starting to use it to control my jamman, which frees up my hands/feet. iow, i can record loops on the jamman while playing to programmed stuff. this requires a fair amount of *arranging* ahead of time but the results can be quite interesting. ttfn, -tmc- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 5 12:09:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA21104; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:09:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:09:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <001401be9709$17984eb0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: EDP DC offset Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:08:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"aiE2c.0.ng2.136Ct"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In this context, DC offset refers to a bias presented to the analog-to-digital converter (ADC). For audio input, you'd expect a average value of zero; i.e., the signal should have as many positive excursions as negative. However, if you present audio "riding on" a DC voltage, then the ADC will produce a non-zero average. It is unrelated to using two EDPs together. This has two disadvantages. 1) It reduces the "headroom" since you'll run out of numbers sooner in one direction (positive or negative). 2) When leaving the loop (via switching to a empty loop, muting, erasing the current loop, etc) you'll hear a "thump" or a "click". Kim describe how to adjust the DC offset for the EDP in a previous message. I found the message in the archives! For anybody interested, it's dated "Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:04:54 -0800" and the subject is "Re: Duh... Q: EDP & CV pedal for feedback control" sent from "Kim Flint ". I followed the procedure last night. The procedure works great (good instructions, Kim!) but my EDP was already set-up properly. I.e., the DC offset was already nulled out. I'm getting a noisy signal from one of my EDP (I have two) and I thought the DC offset might be a problem. But it's not. :( I'll have to try something else. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: Re: EDP DC offset >What is DC offset and why would it be good to adjust it? I have software that >has option to remove dc offset but I don't even know what it is- Does it have >to do with running 2 EDP together? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 5 13:36:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05068; Wed, 5 May 1999 13:36:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:36:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:43:47 EDT Subject: Re: EDP DC offset To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"m11ev1.0.Gl6.xM7Ct"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Any noise I've ever gotten out of my EDP has always been solved by lowering the input a little. Don't know if that's what's happening with you or not.... Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 5 15:04:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA23275; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:04:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:04:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <003e01be9725$9f4c3b70$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: EDP DC offset Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:32:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"69sC63.0.SS4.R29Ct"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the suggestion, but I think it's something else. Here's the symptoms: Nothing connected to input jack. Output jack connected to channel of PA system (TASCAM board). 0) Power-up EDP. 1) No unusual noise. 2) Record any length loop. Say 10 seconds. 3) When loop plays back (upon second press of record), I hear a soft white-noise, rushy-type sound. 4) The volume of the noise is affected by the Output fader. 5) Long press on record to erase the loop. Noise disappears. I don't hear the noise when I do the same experiment with my other EDP. Any ideas? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Hawkeye255@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 12:39 PM Subject: Re: EDP DC offset >Any noise I've ever gotten out of my EDP has always been solved by lowering >the input a little. Don't know if that's what's happening with you or >not.... > >Hawkeye > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 6 07:39:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA08020; Thu, 6 May 1999 07:39:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:39:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905061049.DAA25649@toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 06:50:32 -0400 Subject: Input gain structure From: "Daniel Orlansky" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VBg3B1.0.fg.IGNCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is my first time writing in, and I might as well mention that I play, sound process, and loop didgeridoo. I've used a JamMan for years, and have recently switched to an Echoplex, which I'm very happy with, except for the gain structure: I find the input gain too sensative, after I 've run through my mic pre-amp and sound processor. As per the answer in the FAQ, I'll be changing the resistors involved, but I have a question: Must I use the suggested 1% metal film resistors, or will 5% metal film resistors do the trick? My elecronic repairman says he is quite certain that the 5% will work, and wants to try them because he has them available and they are cheaper. Anyone out there have any experience with this, or even changing the resistors at all ( is is easy to do)? Quick replys will be greatly appreciated, as this repair is scheduled to happen soon because of a gig next week. Thanks, Daniel From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 6 14:49:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA17891; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:49:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:49:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905061049.DAA25649@toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:26:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Input gain structure Resent-Message-ID: <"1XJZ63.0.OM3.UxTCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 5% resistors should work fine. There's a commonly held belief that metal film resistors have better distortion characteristics in audio circuits, producing better quality audio, but personally I've never been able to hear a difference when I made such a change. Whatever improvement you get must be very subtle..... Cost difference between them is nominal, though. something like 1 cent vs 2 cents, so it doesn't hurt much to do it.... anyone who knows how to use a soldering iron and do simple electronics tech work should be able to change those resistors. Simple through-hole stuff. Did you just get your echoplex new? I'm surprised this change wasn't already done at the factory....are you sure it hasn't been? kim >This is my first time writing in, and I might as well mention that I play, >sound process, >and loop didgeridoo. I've used a JamMan for years, and have recently >switched to an >Echoplex, which I'm very happy with, except for the gain structure: I find >the input gain too >sensative, after I 've run through my mic pre-amp and sound processor. As >per the answer in >the FAQ, I'll be changing the resistors involved, but I have a question: >Must I use the suggested 1% >metal film resistors, or will 5% metal film resistors do the trick? My >elecronic repairman >says he is quite certain that the 5% will work, and wants to try them >because he has them available >and they are cheaper. Anyone out there have any experience with this, or >even changing the >resistors at all ( is is easy to do)? Quick replys will be greatly >appreciated, as this repair >is scheduled to happen soon because of a gig next week. > >Thanks, Daniel ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 6 20:11:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA14991; Thu, 6 May 1999 20:11:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:11:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000a01be981a$186fbbe0$bed1f8cc@newmicronpc> From: "Steve Delgado" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:42:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE97F0.2EC10720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZY9OX2.0.MG2.4ZYCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE97F0.2EC10720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable subscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE97F0.2EC10720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BE9817.E9D6F0C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 05:50:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA15898; Fri, 7 May 1999 05:50:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 05:50:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990507092727.2628.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 02:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: More on Midi LFO To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"cWWn1.0.dB3.F6hCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Am I just completely misunderstanding what I'm reading or does this midi foot controller produce a triangle wave effect? It's the Phillip Rees MM5 Midi Foot Controller at http://www.philrees.co.uk John === John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 10:21:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA20184; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:21:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:21:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990507135256.43893.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [62.172.60.94] From: "laura ann" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Steve Reich Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 13:52:55 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"k0Sv_3.0.C-3.J0lCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've just subscribed to this list after it turned up in the results of a search on Steve Reich. I'm a music student and due at the end of this term to present a seminar on S.R. Anything anyone can tell me that I might find helpful would be very much appreciated. (more interested in the music than the man) thanks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 11:30:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA03243; Fri, 7 May 1999 11:30:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:30:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Edward_Chang@amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: Edward_Chang@amsinc.com Message-ID: <8525676A.005148F7.08@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:53:28 -0400 Subject: Last Spin-17 gig Spam for awhile (5/9, 5/15) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"V5XxQ2.0.ZB6.swlCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK, 2 notices in one week is alot but these will be our last gigs for the next few months so I hope you don't mind one more cyber- invitation/invasion for this Sunday and next Saturday. After this, Motoko and I will be working on a "new direction" which we are still in the process of defining and refining. I may even tune my guitar. So basically, we hope you can make it to one of these last 2 shows for awhile. Then, next year you can say "Yeah, I liked their old stuff better"(?). SUNDAY, MAY 9 (Mother's Day) Spin-17 with special co-conspirator DONALD MILLER @The Knitting Factory/AlterKnit Theatre 9pm $6 74 Leonard St NYC (212) 219-3006 Featuring: Ed Chang : Electronics / Small Homemade Objects Motoko Shimizu : Voice / Toys / Turntable Donald Miller : Guitar / Detritus "A meeting between the electro-enharmonic children's/adult music of Spin-17 and the rough & tumble tyranno from Borbetomagus. Pornopenultimate music. This will be quite good, we think." %%%%%%%%%%%% cut %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% And then Next Saturday ---> SATURDAY, MAY 15 1:30 pm matinee @ TONIC, NYC SATURNALIA STRING TRIO WITH DANIEL CARTER (free jazz reed, flute & trumpet legend Daniel Carter is joined by the SST: Jonathan LaMaster - 5 string violin, Vic Rawlings - prepared cello, serangi, and Matthew Heyner - double bass, sitting in for regular SST bass player Mike Bullock) NYC 7? Release Party! Performing along with : THE GOLD SPARKLE TRIO (Charles Waters - saxophone, clarinets, Andrew Barker - drums, and Adam Roberts - double bass) & : SPIN 17 (featuring Ed Chang: Electronics, Guitar, Alto Sax, Tape-Wreckage, and Motoko Shimizu: Vocals, Turntable, Toys, The Noise Machine) TONIC : 107 Norfolk St, NY, NY. Info: (212) 358-7504 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 12:26:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA15165; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:26:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:26:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4869788a.24646184@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:32:20 EDT Subject: Re: Last Spin-17 gig Spam for awhile (5/9, 5/15) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"OCOsp3.0.K01.zVmCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ed.......wish i could make it........tune your guitar?.........why would you ever do that?.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 13:19:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA29091; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:19:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:19:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990507163407.18506.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.90.150] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: FOR SALE:MODULUS FRETLESS 6 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:34:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"hBjCE2.0.aC4.rPnCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FOR SALE:MODULUS FRETLESS 6 -Mint Condition, hardly played. -Hardshell case with Comfort Strap. -List for $3200, will sell for $2000 (will consider offers) SEE THIS BASS AT MY w3-SITE: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/8543/Mvc-004f.jpg ---//////-------///-----///------/////---///////--- Joshua D. 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To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"pK5dr.0.Xz1.EuoCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Listmates, Anyone had any experience with the Zoom 2100? Is the expression pedal worth the extra cash? Pretty much, I am looking for a replacement/upgrade to my Yamaha E1010 which is an analog looper, with approximately 3 seconds worth of time to it. Also, I am looking for a unit to get started in using, and then eventually "graduate" up to something with more range/abilities like an EDP or whatever Gibson/Oberheim decides to call the new Echoplex. Thanks again, Lee-ohki. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 17:30:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA17144; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:30:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:30:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990507154753.00880370@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:47:53 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Lee-ohki's question re: The Zoom 2100 In-Reply-To: <1767575c.2464878a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"DSe301.0.jH2.1DrCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 02:14 PM 5/7/99 EDT, you wrote: >Dear Listmates, > > Anyone had any experience with the Zoom 2100? Is the expression >pedal worth the extra cash? > Pretty much, I am looking for a replacement/upgrade to my Yamaha >E1010 which is an analog looper, with approximately 3 seconds worth of time >to it. Also, I am looking for a unit to get started in using, and then >eventually "graduate" up to something with more range/abilities like an EDP >or whatever Gibson/Oberheim decides to call the new Echoplex. > > Thanks again, > > Lee-ohki. > Dear Lee-ohki, Yes, the Zoom 2100 is my main looping device. It's extremely easy to use in the 6-second mode (after getting used to the awkward way that one accesses the looping mode, and then storing that as a patch.) You can do infinite loops or slow fadeouts up to 6 seconds, and stack on an infinite number of overdubs.The built-in foot pedals make the looping functions easy. The 16-second looping sampler (one looped part, no overdubbing like in the 6-second mode) is also a nice feature. I don't have the expression pedal, and don't personally see the need for it. Guitarists might get some use out of it, however. In sum, it's an incredible value, and is extremely clean. Hope this helps. Michael. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 23:02:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA11085; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:02:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:02:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 19:12:55 -0700 From: brilmar Subject: experiments-5th grade science To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <0FBE007J16DH5T@PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"Wcvbv1.0.lu.RyvCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I hope this is the right place to ask????????? My son needs a "science experiment :: how to tell the difference between a hard and soft boiled egg? Can you help, us?? 5th grade science.........w/details and measurements. Thank You so much. Tyler & Jo Ann Martin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 23:36:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17408; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:36:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:36:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <176988cd.246503cc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:04:44 EDT Subject: Re: experiments-5th grade science To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"sXekf1.0.Hx2.MfwCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/8/99 2:01:10 AM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, brilmar@cwix.com writes: << My son needs a "science experiment >> so do i.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 7 23:43:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18721; Fri, 7 May 1999 23:43:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:43:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <3cb90e5d.24650528@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 23:10:32 EDT Subject: Re: experiments-5th grade science To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"bkSkR1.0.pB3.XkwCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Tyler and Joann: I'm not quite sure what you mean by, "My son needs a "science experiment :: how to tell the difference between a hard and soft boiled egg? Can you help, us?? 5th grade science.........w/details and measurements. Thank You so much. What class is your son in? What's the context of the experiment. Is he being asked to simply "observe" the differences and then quantify them? Best, Kevin aka DR. SCIENCE at Lincoln school From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 8 02:33:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA16578; Sat, 8 May 1999 02:33:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 02:33:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQNvAGwMbgaROjKov/9Yan9esEWQgIVALM3uFbaorDZTU0GCcQ+exyq4FAE From: mjarbogast@webtv.net (Mary Arbogast Arbogast) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 02:00:30 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: tomatoes Message-ID: <1272-3733D2FE-11220@postoffice-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"QvXDx.0.g43.JDzCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would like to know when is the best ime to plant and get best results From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 8 05:52:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA06673; Sat, 8 May 1999 05:52:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 05:52:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: brat@visi.com Posted-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 04:30:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990508092926.006d1b0c@mail.visi.com> X-Sender: spat@mail.visi.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 04:29:26 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: experiments-5th grade science Resent-Message-ID: <"FJXbC.0.s61.zH0Dt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tyler & Jo Martin ask: >I hope this is the right place to ask????????? >My son needs a "science experiment :: how to tell the difference between a >hard and soft boiled egg? > >Can you help, us?? > >5th grade science.........w/details and measurements. Thank You so much. Whoa, finally a question i can field...ok, first you get two eggs, (not ostrich, as this experiment involves anal insertion), a small jar of vaseline, metal shavings, some tequila (you may want to give your son just a lot of cough syrup instead) and a hammer. (The hammer is for determining which egg is which after the anal portion of the experiment.) To the person with the tomatoes question, maybe you should be listening too. Ok, now squat into a pail of the tequila for twenty minutes or so. Then refer to the attachment provided. Let me know how it goes. ciao, Olaf From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 8 10:32:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA08186; Sat, 8 May 1999 10:32:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 10:32:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3734427C.EBA4FF32@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:56:12 -0400 From: theorcolus Reply-To: theorcolus@earthlink.net Organization: 144 Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, zorn-list@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #184 References: <199905080802.EAA26799@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"FKTr43.0.mn._C4Dt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sunday night May 9th at the Downtown Music Gallery in NYC @ 7 PM David Gross 6 string fretless bass/electronics/loops Tor Snyder-guitar/electronics will perform one set of improvisatory music. 211 E. 5th St (212) 473-0043 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 8 13:49:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA04679; Sat, 8 May 1999 13:49:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:49:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37346D05.7DF77AD7@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 09:57:43 -0700 From: Paul Ill Reply-To: paulill@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-NSCP (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Steve Reich References: <19990507135256.43893.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jCjmL3.0.7C7.gq6Dt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com laura ann, check out the remix cd released last month - REICH REMIXED (NONESUCH # 79552-2). its a great revision of some of his classics by COLDCUT, DJ SPOOKY, MANTRONIX, etc...good luck+peace, paul laura ann wrote: > I've just subscribed to this list after it turned up in the results of a > search on Steve Reich. > > I'm a music student and due at the end of this term to present a seminar on > S.R. > > Anything anyone can tell me that I might find helpful would be very much > appreciated. (more interested in the music than the man) > > thanks > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 8 20:01:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA26251; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:01:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 20:01:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990508232543.22569.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [212.40.5.56] From: "Philipp Zuercher" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: eggs'n'tomatoes Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 16:25:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"EAbeu2.0.FE5.gXCDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't really know if I get the point but I think it must be a sunday morning phenomenon to start talking about eggs and tomatoes because they will be part of one of these highly appreciated high-fat-low-fiber meals we tend to call Irish breakfast over here in Switzerland. Anyway...the only method to tell the difference between a boiled and a soft egg I know of is the following: Lay down the egg at the center of a big table, so it can't fall down to the floor - still better: put it on the floor, unless it turns out to be too sticky for the experiment. Now grab it between two fingers and the thumb and spin it right round. The boiled egg will keep on spinning and the soft one will stop spinning after one or two turns. It really works but I don't know if you would call the method a scientific one. I don't know much of tomatoes but there is some other illegal weed stuff growing on my balcony... The whole thing makes me think of a really scientific method to check if a Stradivarius is real or fake. My violin making teacher once proposed, when there was one of those really old, really expensive Italian fiddles lying on our workbench, to burn it and analyse the ashes using the C-16 method. Enough is enough, enjoy your Irish breakfast and the rest of your sunday swissPhilipp (busyrecordingandthereforsleepless) CIAO TUTTI ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 8 22:57:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA19338; Sat, 8 May 1999 22:57:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 22:57:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001401be9709$17984eb0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:15:25 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP DC offset Resent-Message-ID: <"Gk-Qq.0.N23.2wEDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >In this context, DC offset refers to a bias presented to the >analog-to-digital converter (ADC). For audio input, you'd expect a average >value of zero; i.e., the signal should have as many positive excursions as >negative. However, if you present audio "riding on" a DC voltage, then the >ADC will produce a non-zero average. It is unrelated to using two EDPs >together. NONO! The ADC offset is corrected automatically when the unit is in Reset. What we adjust with said procedure is the offset of the VCA controlling the input. If its dejusted, you get a click when switching Overdub or some other functions. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 02:11:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA19559; Sun, 9 May 1999 02:11:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 02:11:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373516D4.DCAA15AD@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 22:02:16 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: eggs'n'tomatoes (minor loop content) References: <19990508232543.22569.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ioNS2.0.d42.cSHDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Philipp Zuercher wrote: > I don't really know if I get the point but I think it must be a sunday > morning phenomenon to start talking about eggs and tomatoes because they > will be part of one of these highly appreciated high-fat-low-fiber meals we > tend to call Irish breakfast over here in Switzerland. > > Anyway...the only method to tell the difference between a boiled and a soft > egg I know of is the following: > > Lay down the egg at the center of a big table, so it can't fall down to the > floor - still better: put it on the floor, unless it turns out to be too > sticky for the experiment. Now grab it between two fingers and the thumb and > spin it right round. > > The boiled egg will keep on spinning and the soft one will stop spinning > after one or two turns. It really works but I don't know if you would call > the method a scientific one. > > I don't know much of tomatoes but there is some other illegal weed stuff > growing on my balcony... > > The whole thing makes me think of a really scientific method to check if a > Stradivarius is real or fake. My violin making teacher once proposed, when > there was one of those really old, really expensive Italian fiddles lying on > our workbench, to burn it and analyse the ashes using the C-16 method. > > Enough is enough, enjoy your Irish breakfast and the rest of your sunday > > swissPhilipp (busyrecordingandthereforsleepless) > > CIAO TUTTI i like this response a lot better that the one that involved tequila & metal shavings (at least this one contained a reference to music), but i wonder, kim, if the list description has gotten scrambled (no pun int'd) for some folks... lance g. on a lighter note, i looped myself laughing the other night (it's easy to figure out what to overdub as contagion sets in fairly quickly...); it was either my mood or the alteration thereof from the aformentioned loopage, but it wuz a lot of fun (kinda private fun, tho...) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 03:45:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA00774; Sun, 9 May 1999 03:45:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 03:45:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990509030950.0079ede0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 03:09:50 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: eggs'n'tomatoes (minor loop content) In-Reply-To: <373516D4.DCAA15AD@earthlink.net> References: <19990508232543.22569.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"CjCPA1.0.7j6.iEJDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >i like this response a lot better that the one that involved tequila & metal >shavings (at least this one contained a reference to music), but i wonder, kim, >if the list description has gotten scrambled (no pun int'd) for some folks... > > >lance g. Yeah, me too, although that little bit of spoken loopage at the beginning of "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" on Pink Floyd's Atom Heart Mother (...marmalade, I LIKE marmalade...) could somehow serve to link them, however tenuously! Well, maybe not... unless Froot Loops are a part of that complete breakfast. It's SORT of loop-related to ask "Which came first; the chicken or..." (I've always found the best clue to the difference between hard- and soft-boiled eggs is that the soft-boiled ones are a lot runnier... Hey, nobody said we had to leave the shells on!) Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 03:43:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA00497; Sun, 9 May 1999 03:43:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 03:43:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Steve Savage" To: Subject: sharkbrother gigs Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 08:49:51 +0200 Message-ID: <000601be99e8$234e9ed0$051e010a@digitalm.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"DmQWV3.0.fR6.w7JDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sharkbrother has a busy weekend coming up, Saturday night we will be playing at Aberlarde Sanction (http://www.hixnet.co.za/home/abelarde/ mailto:abelarde@hixnet.co.za ). We will be on stage at about 9ish and be playing some new tracks with a slightly different feel to the rest of our material. Aberlarde Sanction is on the corner of Ripley & Fulham Rd, Brixton. 011 8375832 Sunday night finds us back at Tings and Times, Hatfield. The gig starts at 9. Come through and enjoy the relaxed vibe and listen to some cool tunes. Address Burnett str.Hatfield Pretoria. Tel: (012) 362-5537 See you there Steve mailto:steve@digitalm.co.za mailto:cobusr@satis.co.za From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 13:09:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA07172; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:09:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:09:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3735AEFF.1991962B@axxsys.net> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 11:51:31 -0400 From: Ken Murano Reply-To: keno@axxsys.net Organization: KENFOSYS The Right Information X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: About the MPC 2000. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jLNvJ.0.hX6.nwQDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Loopers. Can you tell me which is the best CD rom drive to use with the MPC 2000...... I understand there are some good ones, and some bad ones... But which one works best with the MPC 2000, and which one can read other Akai Cds sample disks too ! Thanks for your reply. Keno From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 16:50:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA06307; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:50:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:50:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <9HJ9YIAbwdN3EwbW@waterleat.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 20:03:55 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Markus Reuter - New CD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Resent-Message-ID: <"dETzl3.0.Oy6.NLUDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Loopers, I would like to recommend some listening which I'm sure will appeal to many others on this list... Markus Reuter & Ian Boddy - Distant Rituals (DiN Records) This project is somewhat of a departure for Touch guitarist & fellow list member Markus Reuter, who's previous releases (the excellent Taster and Containment CD's) were largely based on live improv's. The tracks on this CD were mostly assembled by Ian in the UK, using pre- recorded guitar loops (donated by Markus) as the prime ingredient for the strange brew that unfolds. The project takes both artists into new territory. The mood is primarily ambient, with only minimal use of electronic percussion occasionally piercing the airy space created. It's not all 'softly-softly' however, as there are a number of powerful solos played by Markus throughout the journey. There are shades of Fripp & Eno, and some of David Sylvian's more ambient material, and on the rhythmic tracks a slight nudge towards Eno & Wobble's Spinner project? Despite these comparisons, the overall sound remains fresh. I had the opportunity to attend a one-off gig held at the Jodrell Bank planetarium in Cheshire (UK) recently, where the pair expanded on some of the themes from this album. It was clear from the audience enthusiasm that we will most likely see further projects in the future... Although only released in April, this CD (as with all DiN titles) is limited to only 1000 copies, so if you're interested you'd better be quick! Copies can be purchased via the DiN website where you can also check out an mp3 sample of one of the tracks:- http://www.selse.demon.co.uk/DiN.html (By the way, I am not connected with DiN in any capacity other than that of supportive audient!) Cheers, Lee Fletcher From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 17:44:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA14593; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:44:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 17:44:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002201be9a5e$4f9f5d00$3e7a070c@cyberdyne.com> From: "Marc Roche" To: References: <19990508232543.22569.qmail@hotmail.com> <373516D4.DCAA15AD@earthlink.net> Subject: (off-topic) :Tacoma Guitar Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:53:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE9A23.4B8CBCC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"_eonJ2.0.2b1.vKVDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE9A23.4B8CBCC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000D_01BE9A23.4B8CBCC0" ------=_NextPart_001_000D_01BE9A23.4B8CBCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone looking to buy a superb acoustic-electric should check out the = Tacoma "Chief" C3C. I walked into a music store I rarely visit = yesterday with absolutely no intention of buying a guitar, picked one up = fell totally in love. I was completely blown away by the tone, dynamics, = playability. It's price is a relatively modest $1189 (w\ case and = Fishman Prefix Plus pick-up. I think that this is probably the last = steel 6-string I will need to buy. The only other factory-made guitar = I've played that I liked as much was the Tayor 814 CE which goes for a = lot more (without a pickup). This guitar absolutely blows away the = competition in this price range. It features an Engleman spruce top, a = cutaway, solid african rosewood back and laminate rosewood sides. = Salaam. ------=_NextPart_001_000D_01BE9A23.4B8CBCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone looking to buy a superb=20 acoustic-electric should check out the Tacoma = "Chief"=20 C3C.  I walked into a music store I rarely visit yesterday with=20 absolutely no intention of buying a guitar, picked one = up fell=20 totally in love. I was completely blown away by the tone, dynamics, = playability.=20 It's price is a relatively modest $1189 (w\ case and Fishman Prefix = Plus=20 pick-up.  I think that this is probably = the last=20 steel 6-string I will need to buy. The only other factory-made guitar = I've=20 played that I liked as much was the Tayor 814 CE which goes for a lot = more=20 (without a pickup).  This guitar absolutely blows away the = competition in=20 this price range.  It features an Engleman spruce top, a cutaway, = solid=20 african rosewood back and laminate rosewood sides.=20 Salaam.
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May 1999 21:39:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@csi.com Message-ID: <37362AB2.9EFB0BED@csi.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 02:39:14 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: (off-topic) :Tacoma Guitar References: <19990508232543.22569.qmail@hotmail.com> <373516D4.DCAA15AD@earthlink.net> <002201be9a5e$4f9f5d00$3e7a070c@cyberdyne.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"QNqBO.0.Ie1.nWYDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com people have told me about the guitar - although i've never actually seen one in person, i have seen photos of it in old encyclopedias. is it true that this obsure old instrument is being revived and reconsidered? hmmm ... -the man cable- > Marc Roche schrieb: > > Anyone looking to buy a superb acoustic-electric should check out the > Tacoma "Chief" C3C. I walked into a music store I rarely visit > yesterday with absolutely no intention of buying a guitar, picked one > up fell totally in love. I was completely blown away by the tone, > dynamics, playability. It's price is a relatively modest $1189 (w\ > case and Fishman Prefix Plus pick-up. I think that this is probably > the last steel 6-string I will need to buy. The only other > factory-made guitar I've played that I liked as much was the Tayor 814 > CE which goes for a lot more (without a pickup). This guitar > absolutely blows away the competition in this price range. It > features an Engleman spruce top, a cutaway, solid african rosewood > back and laminate rosewood sides. Salaam. > > Name: c3.jpg > c3.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 9 23:51:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA03469; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:51:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:51:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37361503.4C317EDE@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 23:06:44 +0000 From: Darrell Jones Reply-To: djones01@columbus.rr.com Organization: Intra Sites X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: (off-topic) :Tacoma Guitar References: <19990508232543.22569.qmail@hotmail.com> <373516D4.DCAA15AD@earthlink.net> <002201be9a5e$4f9f5d00$3e7a070c@cyberdyne.com> <37362AB2.9EFB0BED@csi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2oGh13.0.307.VsaDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I also was blown away with the Tacoma Guitar. 2 months ago, I visited my local music store where they had just 2 hours before received a Tacoma Chief CB10 bass guitar. I played it for 1 hour, and was unable to leave the store. I ending up buying this instrument. I'm very happy with this bass. Darrell Jones Cummings wrote: > people have told me about the guitar - although i've never actually seen > one in person, i have seen photos of it in old encyclopedias. > > is it true that this obsure old instrument is being revived and > reconsidered? > > hmmm ... > > -the man cable- > > > Marc Roche schrieb: > > > > Anyone looking to buy a superb acoustic-electric should check out the > > Tacoma "Chief" C3C. I walked into a music store I rarely visit > > yesterday with absolutely no intention of buying a guitar, picked one > > up fell totally in love. I was completely blown away by the tone, > > dynamics, playability. It's price is a relatively modest $1189 (w\ > > case and Fishman Prefix Plus pick-up. I think that this is probably > > the last steel 6-string I will need to buy. The only other > > factory-made guitar I've played that I liked as much was the Tayor 814 > > CE which goes for a lot more (without a pickup). This guitar > > absolutely blows away the competition in this price range. It > > features an Engleman spruce top, a cutaway, solid african rosewood > > back and laminate rosewood sides. Salaam. > > > > Name: c3.jpg > > c3.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > > Encoding: base64 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 10:40:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA30488; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:40:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:40:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3736AA9B.A58F3582@iconcapital.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:45:00 +0000 From: bethany cassin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: experiments-5th grade science References: <1.5.4.32.19990508092926.006d1b0c@mail.visi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GBvUW2.0.7x4.PAkDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Olaf, Both you and the Martins have just confirmed my deepest hope that there is human life on Loopers Delight, or, is this just a ruse? Oops, better get back on topic. I heard a rumor that a demo model of a Headrush 2000 was spotted at Joe's Picks 'n Shit, but, no one knew what it was. Anyone else hear that? brat@visi.com wrote: > Tyler & Jo Martin ask: > >I hope this is the right place to ask????????? > >My son needs a "science experiment :: how to tell the difference between a > >hard and soft boiled egg? > > > >Can you help, us?? > > > >5th grade science.........w/details and measurements. Thank You so much. > > Whoa, finally a question i can field...ok, first you get two eggs, > (not ostrich, as this experiment involves anal insertion), a small jar > of vaseline, metal shavings, some tequila (you may want to give > your son just a lot of cough syrup instead) and a hammer. (The hammer > is for determining which egg is which after the anal portion of the > experiment.) To the person with the tomatoes question, maybe you > should be listening too. Ok, now squat into a pail of the tequila for > twenty minutes or so. Then refer to the attachment provided. Let me > know how it goes. > > ciao, > Olaf From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 10:45:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA31542; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:45:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:45:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905101358.JAA05175@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"gREJk2.0.Da5.ZOkDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #113 May 6, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I began a month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest). Space music has ancestry in Progressive rock and in my first show, I promised that I wouldn't totally abandon the audience of Jim Ferrani's show Deep Cuts, an Art and Progressive Rock program. Now is the time to keep my promise! Special guest Chad Hutchinson, webmaster of the Ghostland web site and Vice President of NEARfest will present the music of the bands to be appearing at the inaugural NEARfest. Ghostland : http://ghostland.com NEARfest : http://ghostland.com/nearfest EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm C.H.A.O.S. In the Wake of Shoemaker-Levy Improv. Sessions Vol. 2 (none) Wave World The Quest Species (Quantum) Deborah Martin One Sun Deep Roots (Spotted Peccary) VA [Ma Ja Le] Images Remain Weightless, Effortless (Hypnos) Protognos Strange Geographie Strange Geographie (DiN) OZMA Actualia Three HugeAndSilentPlace (AtomicCity) Vidna Obmana Landscape in Obscurity* Landscape in Obscurity (Hypnos) 12:00 am Spock's Beard The Doorway Beware of Darkness (Radiant) Crucible Over the Falls Tall Tales (Moonchild) Scott McGill's Hand Farm Fred-O-Cal Ripe (The Laser's Edge) Ice Age Sleepwalker The Great Divide (Magna Carta) Solaris The Martian Chronicles 2&3 The Martian Chronicles(Solaris) IQ Subterranea Subterranea (GiantElectricPea) Scott McGill's Hand Farm 7-24 Ripe (The Laser's Edge) Spock's Beard Chatauqua * Beware of Darkness (Radiant) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest) with special guest Chad Hutchinson. The Feature CD at Midnight will return in June. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 11:04:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA02656; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:04:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:04:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <019801be9aee$1f13fc50$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: EDP DC offset Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:05:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"fn_PJ1.0.NB6.makDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks, Matthias, for clarifying this. You know, a block diagram would be helpful. Perhaps with a flowchart of how the EDP decides to sync to what. Ok, I won't beg. But I can offer you half a Mars bar. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, May 08, 1999 10:10 PM Subject: Re: EDP DC offset >>In this context, DC offset refers to a bias presented to the >>analog-to-digital converter (ADC). For audio input, you'd expect a average >>value of zero; i.e., the signal should have as many positive excursions as >>negative. However, if you present audio "riding on" a DC voltage, then the >>ADC will produce a non-zero average. It is unrelated to using two EDPs >>together. > >NONO! > >The ADC offset is corrected automatically when the unit is in Reset. > >What we adjust with said procedure is the offset of the VCA controlling the >input. If its dejusted, you get a click when switching Overdub or some >other functions. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 11:24:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA06666; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905101413.KAA05790@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Markus Reuter - New CD Resent-Message-ID: <"dU5uq2.0.XD6.3ckDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lee Fletcher said: > I would like to recommend some listening which I'm sure will appeal to > many others on this list... > Markus Reuter & Ian Boddy - Distant Rituals (DiN Records) I've already started playing this CD and the other three DiN releases upon my return from attending the 6th Alfa-Centauri EM Festival in Huizen, the Netherlands. Please see my April 22 playlist and the two weeks following it. Bill home: billfox@fast.net work: BillFox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of Emusic, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org My band site: http://www.crosswinds.net/allentown/~shadowplay "Those little boys don't think too much about what they say... (And how can they know what they mean before they hear what they say?)" - Heike M. Madder From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 11:27:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA07402; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:27:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:27:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905101416.KAA05806@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Markus Reuter - New CD Resent-Message-ID: <"8ED_y.0.xP6.jfkDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I've already started playing this CD and the other three DiN releases Oops! that's TWO other releases, not three. Sorry. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 12:35:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA21602; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:35:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:35:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.1.19990510111236.0094ef10@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:15:02 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: OT: used pedals in NYC In-Reply-To: <199905100711.DAA04770@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"JtBH-.0.PW2.xtlDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey - Anyone got any advice about where to look for used pedals in NY or via the web? I am specifically looking for a ProCo Rat and an Electro-Harmonix Guitar Synth, but I'm always open to new gizmos and more just looking for places to stop by on the weekend and check out. (I'm saving for an EDP first, anyway). Thanks, MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 13:10:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA29461; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:10:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:10:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:22:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199905101622.LAA07732@mw2.texas.net> X-Sender: sharkey@mail.texas.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: james rhodes Subject: Daddy Monkey @ The Blue Star art complex 5/14/99 Resent-Message-ID: <"AmGhB3.0.Tg4.cVmDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello fellow list members, wanted to take a minute to plug a gig this friday night here in San Antonio. Daddy Monkey will be playing at the Joan Grona Art Gallery 8-10:00pm, located in the Blue Star Art Complex Home of the Blue Star Brewery 1414 S Alamo. for those who have'nt seen us in a while,,i no longer play electric bass with Daddy Monkey,,,just Double bass (upright)...so if you are in the area,,please drop by ,,sample the micro-brew,,,and enjoy an evening of industrial jazz improv thanks for reading this plug james From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 14:17:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA12548; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:17:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:17:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32BFFD@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> From: "Wordsman, Lee" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: used pedals in NYC Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:30 -0400 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"bVUBR2.0.xW7.kHnDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Toys from the Attic in White Plains, NY sells vintage equipment (at vintage equipment prices) The had a guitar synth a while back but may have sold it since. They may still have a Proco Rat. They have a web site at http://www.tfta.com. I bought my 4 sec time machine ($125) and Schecter SuperStrat ($225) there. Both were pretty good deals but I've seen other stuff that I though was over priced. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Tuminello [mailto:m1cha3l@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:15 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: OT: used pedals in NYC > > > Hey - > > Anyone got any advice about where to look for used pedals in > NY or via the > web? I am specifically looking for a ProCo Rat and an > Electro-Harmonix > Guitar Synth, but I'm always open to new gizmos and more just > looking for > places to stop by on the weekend and check out. (I'm saving > for an EDP > first, anyway). > > Thanks, > > MT > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 15:15:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24969; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:15:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:15:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3737214B.44D1@dmans.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:11:23 -0500 From: "Mikell D. Nelson" Reply-To: mnelson@dmans.com Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT: used pedals in NYC References: <4.1.19990510111236.0094ef10@mail.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"r9RqV1.0.5m2.z5oDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Michael Tuminello wrote: > > Anyone got any advice about where to look for used pedals in NY or via the > web? I am specifically looking for a ProCo Rat and an Electro-Harmonix > Guitar Synth, but I'm always open to new gizmos and more just looking for > places to stop by on the weekend and check out. (I'm saving for an EDP > first, anyway). Absolutely. Contact The Pedalman! Romain Bidaut is the Pedalman at Anatomy Guitars, 332 Bleeker St., Suite K108, New York, NY 10014; 212-802-7279. pedalman@pedalman.com http://www.pedalman.com Tell him Mike at Boomerang sent you. Good luck with your search. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 15:15:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24987; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:15:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:15:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:16:04 EDT Subject: Re: OT: used pedals in NYC To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"YAOeH2.0.-33.tAoDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/10/99 11:35:02 AM Central Daylight Time, m1cha3l@earthlink.net writes: << Anyone got any advice about where to look for used pedals in NY or via the web? I am specifically looking for a ProCo Rat and an Electro-Harmonix Guitar Synth >> I'd buy an issue of Vintage Guitar at Borders, or check their website. (Is it vguitar.com?) Or else try the pawnshops, especially in college towns. (I bought my Rat in 1984 that way.) NYC is where everything remotely musical is more expensive, in my judgment. K From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 15:30:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA28630; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:30:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:30:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37372327.6470@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:19:19 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: used pedals in NYC References: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32BFFD@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sd9r8.0.uc3.DKoDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > Hey - > > Anyone got any advice about where to look for used pedals in > > NY or via the web? I am specifically looking for a ProCo Rat and an > > Electro-Harmonix Guitar Synth, but I'm always open to new gizmos and more just > > looking for places to stop by on the weekend and check out. (I'm saving > > for an EDP first, anyway). In NYC Rogue Music has a slew of VINATGE!! items. Foirtunately they also carry new lines as well at decent prices. I'm sure they carry the reissue EH pedeal s(mircosynth et all) and might have some originals in as well. www.roguemusic.com on the web you might want to check out music central. They claim to beat anyone's prices on new stuff and carry a lot of interesting things including the Zvex line. http://www.primenet.com/~mika/MusicCentral/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 22:44:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA12324; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:44:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:44:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37378550.2E4A00D0@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:18:08 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: EDP Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"BsafD3.0.gU7.uKuDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all- I had a couple of questions for EDP owners- 1- Do you ever get a problem when first turning the unit on where you have to turn it off and on again to get it to start properly 2- I recorded an acoustic guitar the other day and in about 5 or 10 minutes the loop had degraded into a noisy mess- loud and noisy- feedback is all the way up etc- never had the problem before- 3- Is there a warranty of any sort? i did not receive any info with my unit other than the manual- Much thanks- Cliff Novey http://home.earthlink.net/~clifsound/sounds.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 10 23:02:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA15502; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00a901be9b51$4565ac60$1298adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: experiments-5th grade science Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:54:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"5R4Wl2.0.nS.qeuDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey, I was out of town and was wondering . . . did any of these yahoos give you any straight advice ;) ? well, here's the skinny (and I have a bachelor's degree in Science) spin the eggs--hard boiled will spin longer than soft or uncooked hope you get this in time so your progeny's scholastic record dosen't flatline . . . (mothers . . . don't let your BABIES grow up too be LOOPERS) Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: brilmar To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, May 07, 1999 10:04 PM Subject: experiments-5th grade science >I hope this is the right place to ask????????? > >My son needs a "science experiment :: how to tell the difference between a >hard and soft boiled egg? > >Can you help, us?? > >5th grade science.........w/details and measurements. Thank You so much. > >Tyler & Jo Ann Martin > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 00:20:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA28601; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:20:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:20:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3737A2BF.97AE668@stic.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:23:43 -0500 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: PC vs. Mac for recording Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iXdXd3.0.3K4.y4wDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I'm planning on getting a computer for recording. I'd like to use The Mark of the Unicorn soft/hardware setup. What would be a sound card to get to support this?? All comments welcome!! Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 07:10:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA19655; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:10:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:10:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 06:47:54 EDT Subject: i just received the east coast tape To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Nemoguitt@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"eDcwo.0.t74.Fi0Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com tapeheads, remind me again, are we supposed to use noise reduction or not? how long can our piece be? and who am i supposed to send it to? someone is on vacation. who is that? also, am i allowed to listen to the other pieces on the tape or not? how many days do i have to tape something before i send it out? i am sure all these things have discussed already. sorry for my lack of retention. feeling a bit slow these days, =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 07:49:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA24165; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:49:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:49:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <4874c12d.24696d8a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:24:58 EDT Subject: Re: PC vs. Mac for recording To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"iJ5Ly1.0.GI5.0F1Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear James, Unless Mark of the Unicorn has drastically changed their views on computers, you'll only be able to use a Mac with their hardware/software... Also, what type of box do you have, as that will make a majour difference as to what cards you can use/purchase, along with what OS and version you are running on your Mac. Also, I believe that MOTU has their own interface card (PCI) for their equipment. The last time I dealt with MOTU and a Mac was back about 3 to 4 years ago, and it was on a tricked out PPC8100/120 with way too much RAM and Avid HDD's, and all it did was HDD recording/editing for audio. I was very impressed with the setup, but I spent more time fighting with the OS and the box, than getting time to play with the editing/control features/functions. It was hardly plug and play, but then again, it really shouldn't be at that level, to be honest... If you decide to go to the WIntel or UNIX side, let me know, as in these two, I have a bit more experience and knowledge. Recommend NT4.0WS w. SvcPk3 or '98 on the WIntel side. Go with one of the IRIX variants for SGI audio on the UNIX side. If you're into MOD file generation, then SuSE, Caldera, or even Red Hat Linux is the better choice. Hope this helps. Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 09:04:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA02273; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:04:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:04:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990511123056.0069a538@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:30:56 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leo Cavallo Subject: Re: PC vs. Mac for recording Resent-Message-ID: <"RvjUd2.0.mO7._E2Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 22.23 10/05/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hello, > I'm planning on getting a computer for recording. I'd like to >use The Mark of the Unicorn soft/hardware setup. What would be a sound >card to get to support this?? All comments welcome!! > Thanks, James although their products are multi platform, MOTU seems to supports a little more MAC users. I've got a PC/MOTU2408 and it's really great, but on MAC is still better. I'd like to use digital performer or Audiodesk (bundled with the 2408)... but it's only for Mac. If you have to build your setup get a Mac. If you wanna do some pro recording get a Mac (more for the stability thing, not for audio quality: I can get really good results with PC too). maybe you'll have less little creative progs, but for serious HD recording it's not so important. ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 09:17:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA04285; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:17:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:17:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.1.19990511084415.009334d0@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:51:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: PC vs. Mac for recording In-Reply-To: <4874c12d.24696d8a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"5YLD62.0.jp7.5T2Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:24 AM 5/11/99 -0400, Phaedebk@aol.com wrote: >Dear James, > > Unless Mark of the Unicorn has drastically changed their views on >computers, you'll only be able to use a Mac with their hardware/software... Not true, at least as far as MOTU hardware. The 2048 hard-disk recording system is supported on both MAC and PC. Their Mdid and Audio software, however is only supported on Macintosh. As far as choosing which platform to use, you will do best to choose the one you are most comfortable working with, as long as the software you want to use is available for it. **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** http://www.studiodust.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 11:07:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA24720; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:07:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:07:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <009701be9bb9$058240f0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: EDP Question Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:17:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"lafjb3.0.o34.Rs3Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy, Cliff. Hope I can answer some of your questions. -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey To: Loopers Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: EDP Question >1- Do you ever get a problem when first turning the unit on where you >have to turn it off and on again to get it to start properly I've never had a problem like this. What does your EDP do when it starts improperly? >2- I recorded an acoustic guitar the other day and in about 5 or 10 >minutes the loop had degraded into a noisy mess- loud and noisy- >feedback is all the way up etc- never had the problem before- Make sure you don't have OVERDUB on. If the EDP thinks it's overdubbing, it reduces the current loop's amplitude by some amount (10% I think) each iteration. This is to allow room for the new overdubbed signal. If you're NOT overdubbing, the original contents of the loops will eventually be replaced by the new ambient input. >3- Is there a warranty of any sort? i did not receive any info with my >unit other than the manual- I think there is but don't take my word for it. I'm away from my paperwork right now. And I'm not an authority on this. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 13:07:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA16944; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:07:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:07:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE9B8F.75DE8AE0@pool005-max5.ds12-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net> From: Bien Appraisers To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: EDP Question Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:17:25 -0700 Encoding: 56 TEXT Resent-Message-ID: <"4OYI3.0.7c1.KX5Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks Dennis- I will give more details when I get home- I appreciate your help- I don't think I had Overdub on though- I have been using it plenty with electric- but let me get home from work and get you some better details- Cliff ---------- From: Dennis W. Leas[SMTP:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 7:17 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Question Howdy, Cliff. Hope I can answer some of your questions. -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey To: Loopers Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: EDP Question >1- Do you ever get a problem when first turning the unit on where you >have to turn it off and on again to get it to start properly I've never had a problem like this. What does your EDP do when it starts improperly? >2- I recorded an acoustic guitar the other day and in about 5 or 10 >minutes the loop had degraded into a noisy mess- loud and noisy- >feedback is all the way up etc- never had the problem before- Make sure you don't have OVERDUB on. If the EDP thinks it's overdubbing, it reduces the current loop's amplitude by some amount (10% I think) each iteration. This is to allow room for the new overdubbed signal. If you're NOT overdubbing, the original contents of the loops will eventually be replaced by the new ambient input. >3- Is there a warranty of any sort? i did not receive any info with my >unit other than the manual- I think there is but don't take my word for it. I'm away from my paperwork right now. And I'm not an authority on this. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 13:07:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA16965; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:07:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:07:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <5d986de5.2469b3a5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:24:05 EDT Subject: a nonloopy transtrem question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"LtJc_.0.4_1.rd5Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i know this isnt a steinberger list but im more than certain theres a good amount of you all out there that have them i have a gmpro the other day i got together with a friend that has a floydrose on his guitar he was getting all of this great gargling stuff by hitting it when playing now the transtrem is way too stiff to wiggle my question is... has anyone body modified their trem(i.e. cut the spring , or changed the spring) to make it more.......springy? thanks rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 13:35:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA22557; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:35:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:35:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000201be9bcd$efbe9c40$ab23dacf@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <2.2.32.19990511123056.0069a538@mail.dada.it> Subject: Re: PC vs. Mac for recording Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:38:00 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"hJ4bM.0.P73.0z5Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Folks! (he intoned, avoiding the eternal self-abuse of platform arguments) Like the others said, if all one wants is a particular package, and it only runs on Mac, then you've already made your decision, without our input - though it remains to be seen how long Mac will exist in its present form... However! On the subject of EIDE vs. SCSI CD-R and CD-RW drives, I've got something really important to pass along... The final verdict on EIDE in this regard is in, and it's a technical reality as opposed to a preference. It turns out that Bus Mastering - AND UDMA - cause the machine to go much faster than EIDE CD burners were designed to go. This is the simple version from Smart and Friendly support, after a torrid week going through multiple units to see which works. Regardless of SCSI lovers I decided I was going to try to keep this essentially foreign bios out of my PC if at all possible, but would relent if necessary. Well, it turns out that it's necessary. ** WARNING! OPINION PROXIMITY ALERT! ** Ugh, frankly. Goodbye to Yet Another Interrupt (though I've free ones, so that part is relatively painless), and hello to a lengthier boot process. Alas. ** END OF OPINION ** Stephen Goodman * It's the Loop of the Week! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 18:33:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA22817; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:33:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:33:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: tcweller@mail.purity.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:22:55 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Travis Weller Subject: midi looping hardware Resent-Message-ID: <"xlrZm2.0.qn1.jz9Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello, without getting into the hardware vs. software argument, i'm interested in finding a hardware (non-computer) solution for overdubbing MIDI events in a similar way in which the EDP overdubs audio. the software sequencer i'm currently using (cubase vst on mac) accomplishes this quite well. set a loop length, start it playing, toggle record (overdub) on and off as needed. the ability to switch and mute tracks (like the Alesis MMT-8) would be a big plus. the only catch is: it's on a computer. i know from reading this list for a while that many of you use the EDP or similar overdubbing loop devices. i also know that many of you are MIDI users. i've seen some good discussions about software vs. hardware solutions for music creation. so it seems like there would be at least a few of you who may already be using from something like this. does anyone know of such a device, or know for sure that one does not exist? thanks, travis. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 18:43:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA24736; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:43:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:43:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: mascarat.dragonet.es: dinamic1-93.drago.net [195.76.196.93] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990511234115.00898ca0@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:41:15 +0200 To: taptalk@progrock.net, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, stickwire-l@netcom.com, mreuter@post.uni-bielefeld.de, alaintap@spa.es, familia.poveda@mad.servicom.es, c.jorda@arrakis.es, kuno.tap@t-online.de From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl?= Bonell =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Subject: one more MP3 file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"_MB7z1.0.Kl2.sEAEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi friends ! Just another one ... "Lligant el Perfum" http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc/lep.mp3 love.peace.bye R. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// Ra=FCl Bonell Tom=E0s =20 http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 18:52:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA26323; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:52:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:52:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: floyd@voicenet.com Date: 11 May 1999 21:45:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19990511214546.26432.qmail@unix01.voicenet.com> To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: home workers wanted.. Resent-Message-ID: <"vXAPq.0.qz2.NKAEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Apparently our beloved list has made it onto one of the spammers-delight lists. Please, Kim, configure the list to not allow posts from non-members. Those folks you mentioned that send info to the list should join up anyway. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 19:47:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA03961; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3738B315.C3A7D24F@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:45:42 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Question References: <01BE9B8F.75DE8AE0@pool005-max5.ds12-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0oJvI3.0.7A6.yBBEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OFF, I meant I had Overdub OFF- duh- ;) Cliff Bien Appraisers wrote: > Thanks Dennis- I will give more details when I get home- I appreciate your > help- I don't think I had Overdub on though- I have been using it plenty > with electric- but let me get home from work and get you some better > details- > > Cliff > > ---------- > From: Dennis W. Leas[SMTP:dennis@mdbs.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 7:17 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: EDP Question > > Howdy, Cliff. Hope I can answer some of your questions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clifford Novey > To: Loopers > Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:51 PM > Subject: EDP Question > > >1- Do you ever get a problem when first turning the unit on where you > >have to turn it off and on again to get it to start properly > > I've never had a problem like this. What does your EDP do when it starts > improperly? > > >2- I recorded an acoustic guitar the other day and in about 5 or 10 > >minutes the loop had degraded into a noisy mess- loud and noisy- > >feedback is all the way up etc- never had the problem before- > > Make sure you don't have OVERDUB on. If the EDP thinks it's overdubbing, > it > reduces the current loop's amplitude by some amount (10% I think) each > iteration. This is to allow room for the new overdubbed signal. If you're > NOT overdubbing, the original contents of the loops will eventually be > replaced by the new ambient input. > > >3- Is there a warranty of any sort? i did not receive any info with my > >unit other than the manual- > > I think there is but don't take my word for it. I'm away from my paperwork > right now. And I'm not an authority on this. > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 11 22:05:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA26496; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:05:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:05:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <8efc67dd.246a2d28@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:02:32 EDT Subject: Re: midi looping hardware To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"o1hIk.0.i04.TDDEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I<< without getting into the hardware vs. software argument, i'm interested in finding a hardware (non-computer) solution for overdubbing MIDI events in a similar way in which the EDP overdubs audio.>> I do overdubbing similar to what you describe on my Roland MC50 sequencer (used $200). I can setup locate points or simply use 'loop play' mode and mute tracks or add tracks on each iteration. Along with my MC50, an EDP, a Korg Prophecy and a Korg X5DR module, I can do some amazing things all on my lonesome. Even though I've had one for 5 whole months, I've finally learned enough about my SP-808 (loaded with ambient and vocal samples) to throw it into the mix now and that's going very well. It is a really great machine, despite some of the negative comments I've heard. But the 'Boss' of the outfit is the MC50 (with a little help from me). BTW: many of the samples I use on the SP-808 were created with my EDP. I understand, as well, that Roland has just come out with a monster, new sequencer, the MC80. eat your heart out time...again! Bill 'Hawkeye' Reiter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 03:54:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA23143; Wed, 12 May 1999 03:54:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 03:54:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <019801be9aee$1f13fc50$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 04:02:26 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Sync diagram Resent-Message-ID: <"yBT5I1.0.rQ3.cMIEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Thanks, Matthias, for clarifying this. You know, a block diagram would be >helpful. Perhaps with a flowchart of how the EDP decides to sync to what. >Ok, I won't beg. But I can offer you half a Mars bar. ...to glue my teeth together? And a cola to clean it out? OK. I made such a diagram for the LOOP delay manual and its still valid. Kim promissed to stick that onto the site ? Maybe just the diagram? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 08:00:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA20875; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:00:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:00:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373967AA.18276DDA@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:12 +0200 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be Organization: NOPE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: motu, mac and PC References: <199905120705.DAA16012@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"QnJv92.0.6C4.oSMEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MOTU claims that with an off the shelf G3 @450 mHz and a 2048, you can read up to 72 audio tracks. I do myself work on an "old" (1 year and an half old, so that makes it almoste prehistoric) 604e Mac clone @ 210 mHz with a single HD and I have up to 18 audio tracks. Sometimes 22, if I don't aply effects in real time. that without sound card. I'd say that both platforms now are successful in audio. Maybe PC with diversity of the moteher boards will give more hassle in the choice of the right machine with the right components (most of troubles I see in the diverse mailing lists for any soft usually comes from PC users). If it was possible I would anyway work under BeOS environment. Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 09:48:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA06727; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:48:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:48:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3739419A.20F2984A@iconcapital.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:53:47 +0000 From: bethany cassin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! References: <199905111903.PAA08850@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rDFq63.0.fo6.OcNEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sure, but only if I can include fliers for upcoming gigs. toukol@mindspring.com wrote: > Dear Future Associate, > > You Can Work At Home & Set Your Own Hours. Start earning Big > Money in a short time > > NO Newspaper Advertising! > > Your job will be to stuff and mail envelopes for our company. You > will receive $.25 for each and every envelope you stuff and mail > out. > > Just follow our simple instructions and you will be making money > as easy as > 1… 2… 3 > > For example stuff and mail 200 envelopes and you will receive > $50.00. Stuff and mail 1000 and you will receive $250.00. Stuff > and mail 2000 and you will receive $500.00 and more > > Never before has there been an easier way to make money from > home! > > Our Company's Home Mailing Program is designed for people with > little or no experience and provides simple, step by step > instructions. > > There is no prior experience or special skills necessary on your > part, Just stuffing envelopes. > > We need the help of honest and reliable home workers like you. > Because we are overloaded with work and have more than our staff > can handle. We have now expanded our mailing program and are > expecting to reach millions more with our offers throughout the > US and Canada. > > Our system of stuffing and mailing envelopes is very simple and > easy to do! > You will not be required to buy envelopes or postage stamps. > > We will gladly furnish all circulars at no cost to you. We assure > you that as a participant in our program you will never have to > mail anything objective or offensive. > > There are no quotas to meet, and there no contracts to sign. You > can work as much, or as little as you want. Payment for each > envelope you send out is Guaranteed! > > Here is what you will receive when you get your first Package. > Inside you will find 100 envelopes, 100 labels and 100 sales > letters ready to stuff and mail > > As soon as you are done with stuffing and mailing these first > letters, your payment will arrive shortly, thereafter. All you > have to do is to order more free supplies and stuff and mail more > envelopes to make more money. > > Our sales literature which you will be stuffing and mailing will > contain > information outlining our highly informative manuals that we are > advertising nationwide. As a free gift you will receive a > special manual valued at $24.95, absolutely free, just for > joining our Home Mailers Program. > > Plus you will get your own special code number, so that we will > know how much you are to get paid. And to make re-ordering of > more envelopes, that our company supplies very simple for you. > > We are giving you this free bonus because we want you to be > confident in our company and to ensure that we will be doing > business with you for a long time. > > Benefits Of This Job: > > 1. You do not have to quit your present job, to earn more money > at home > 2. You can make between $2,500 to $4,500 a month depending on the > amount of time you are willing to spend stuffing and mailing > envelopes > 3. This is a great opportunity for the students, mothers, > disabled persons or those who are home bodies. > > To secure your position and to show us that you are serious about > earning extra income at home we require a one-time registration > fee of $35.00. > This fee covers the cost of your initial start up package, which > includes 100 envelopes, 100 labels and 100 sales letters and a > manual, your registration fee will be refunded back to you > shortly thereafter. > > Money Back Guarantee! > > We guarantee that as soon as you stuff and mail your first 300 > envelopes You will be paid $75.00 and your registration fee will > be refunded. > > Many of you wonder why it is necessary to pay a deposit to get a > job. It is because we are looking for people that seriously want > to work from home. > > * If 3.000 people told us they wanted to start working from home > and we sent out 3.000 packages free to every one. And then half > of the people decided not to work, this would be a potential loss > of more than $60,000 in supply's and shipping that we have sent > out to people that don't want to work > > We have instituted this policy to make sure that you really want > to work and at least finish your first package. > > To Get Started Today Please Enclose Your Registration Fee of $35 > Check,Cash Or Money Order and fill out the application below and > mail to: > > AHWA CO > Pmb > 1928 E. Highland Blvd > Ste #F104-902 > Phoenix, Az 85016 > > Name_____________________________________________________ > > Address___________________________________________________ > > City____________________________________ State______________ > > Zip Code________________ > > Telephone Number(s)_________________________________________ > > E-mail Address______________________________________________ > > For all orders, please allow seven (7) days for delivery and up > to 10 days. Cash and Money Orders will result in faster shipping > of your package. > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 10:55:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA20026; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:55:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:55:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <018701be9c7e$cd9d4100$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Sync diagram Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:53:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"W19Ly.0.HD2.AcOEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry about the Mars bar reference. It's a thread from another list and I was temporarily dis-oriented. :) (Really, it's just temporary!) I can't find the diagram on the website. (Kim, help!) BTW, the link http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tips/Plhints.html#hint13 mentions the BREAK key. I see this is a key on the original Paradis LoopDelay. What is the equivalent on the EDP? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 3:14 AM Subject: Sync diagram >>Thanks, Matthias, for clarifying this. You know, a block diagram would be >>helpful. Perhaps with a flowchart of how the EDP decides to sync to what. >>Ok, I won't beg. But I can offer you half a Mars bar. > >...to glue my teeth together? And a cola to clean it out? OK. >I made such a diagram for the LOOP delay manual and its still valid. >Kim promissed to stick that onto the site ? Maybe just the diagram? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 11:44:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA28378; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:44:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:44:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:51:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Trembath X-Sender: ntrembat@gecko To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! In-Reply-To: <3739419A.20F2984A@iconcapital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Resent-Message-ID: <"L555w2.0.215.GSPEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Brilliant! Mailing lists are so expensive. N On Wed, 12 May 1999, bethany cassin wrote: > Sure, but only if I can include fliers for upcoming gigs. >=20 > toukol@mindspring.com wrote: >=20 > > Dear Future Associate, > > > > You Can Work At Home & Set Your Own Hours. Start earning Big > > Money in a short time > > > > NO Newspaper Advertising! > > > > Your job will be to stuff and mail envelopes for our company. You > > will receive $.25 for each and every envelope you stuff and mail > > out. > > > > Just follow our simple instructions and you will be making money > > as easy as > > 1=85 2=85 3 > > > > For example stuff and mail 200 envelopes and you will receive > > $50.00. Stuff and mail 1000 and you will receive $250.00. Stuff > > and mail 2000 and you will receive $500.00 and more > > > > Never before has there been an easier way to make money from > > home! > > > > Our Company's Home Mailing Program is designed for people with > > little or no experience and provides simple, step by step > > instructions. > > > > There is no prior experience or special skills necessary on your > > part, Just stuffing envelopes. > > > > We need the help of honest and reliable home workers like you. > > Because we are overloaded with work and have more than our staff > > can handle. We have now expanded our mailing program and are > > expecting to reach millions more with our offers throughout the > > US and Canada. > > > > Our system of stuffing and mailing envelopes is very simple and > > easy to do! > > You will not be required to buy envelopes or postage stamps. > > > > We will gladly furnish all circulars at no cost to you. We assure > > you that as a participant in our program you will never have to > > mail anything objective or offensive. > > > > There are no quotas to meet, and there no contracts to sign. You > > can work as much, or as little as you want. Payment for each > > envelope you send out is Guaranteed! > > > > Here is what you will receive when you get your first Package. > > Inside you will find 100 envelopes, 100 labels and 100 sales > > letters ready to stuff and mail > > > > As soon as you are done with stuffing and mailing these first > > letters, your payment will arrive shortly, thereafter. All you > > have to do is to order more free supplies and stuff and mail more > > envelopes to make more money. > > > > Our sales literature which you will be stuffing and mailing will > > contain > > information outlining our highly informative manuals that we are > > advertising nationwide. As a free gift you will receive a > > special manual valued at $24.95, absolutely free, just for > > joining our Home Mailers Program. > > > > Plus you will get your own special code number, so that we will > > know how much you are to get paid. And to make re-ordering of > > more envelopes, that our company supplies very simple for you. > > > > We are giving you this free bonus because we want you to be > > confident in our company and to ensure that we will be doing > > business with you for a long time. > > > > Benefits Of This Job: > > > > 1. You do not have to quit your present job, to earn more money > > at home > > 2. You can make between $2,500 to $4,500 a month depending on the > > amount of time you are willing to spend stuffing and mailing > > envelopes > > 3. This is a great opportunity for the students, mothers, > > disabled persons or those who are home bodies. > > > > To secure your position and to show us that you are serious about > > earning extra income at home we require a one-time registration > > fee of $35.00. > > This fee covers the cost of your initial start up package, which > > includes 100 envelopes, 100 labels and 100 sales letters and a > > manual, your registration fee will be refunded back to you > > shortly thereafter. > > > > Money Back Guarantee! > > > > We guarantee that as soon as you stuff and mail your first 300 > > envelopes You will be paid $75.00 and your registration fee will > > be refunded. > > > > Many of you wonder why it is necessary to pay a deposit to get a > > job. It is because we are looking for people that seriously want > > to work from home. > > > > * If 3.000 people told us they wanted to start working from home > > and we sent out 3.000 packages free to every one. And then half > > of the people decided not to work, this would be a potential loss > > of more than $60,000 in supply's and shipping that we have sent > > out to people that don't want to work > > > > We have instituted this policy to make sure that you really want > > to work and at least finish your first package. > > > > To Get Started Today Please Enclose Your Registration Fee of $35 > > Check,Cash Or Money Order and fill out the application below and > > mail to: > > > > AHWA CO > > Pmb > > 1928 E. Highland Blvd > > Ste #F104-902 > > Phoenix, Az 85016 > > > > Name_____________________________________________________ > > > > Address___________________________________________________ > > > > City____________________________________ State______________ > > > > Zip Code________________ > > > > Telephone Number(s)_________________________________________ > > > > E-mail Address______________________________________________ > > > > For all orders, please allow seven (7) days for delivery and up > > to 10 days. Cash and Money Orders will result in faster shipping > > of your package. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 13:42:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA13595; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:42:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:42:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905121702.KAA11856@scv2.apple.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:02:21 -0500 Subject: FS: JamMan $350, 32 sec, Harmony Central From: "Travis Hartnett" To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"S4dXM3.0.s12.NHREt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Respond to e-mail in ad, not to sender: FS:Lexicon JamMan Asking Price: US$350 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Lexdicon JamMan Delay Looper . With memory upgrade of 32 Seconds. Mint with Dual footswitch, AC adapter, and manual. $350 plus shipping. Seller: Ken Volpe, 203/966-2096 E-mail: kjvguitar@aol.com (Profile) Post Date: 5/12/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 13:58:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA15989; Wed, 12 May 1999 13:58:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:58:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990512172707.46158.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [206.183.230.74] From: "Jeremy Martin" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: SYB-3 Bass Synthesizer Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:27:07 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"PP6OE2.0.du2.VeREt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm interested in the Boss Bass Synthesizer and i'd like to know how old it is and if the 5 year warranty would still be in effect. thankyou. -Jeremy Martin _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 14:13:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA18262; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:13:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:13:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: JamMan $350, 32 sec, Harmony Central Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:40:05 -0700 Message-ID: <003001be9c9e$78943fe0$26ee8fd1@linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <199905121702.KAA11856@scv2.apple.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"KCfO7.0.PA3.vmREt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Argh - I was hoping to keep this one to myself :> bIz -----Original Message----- From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:hartne.t@apple.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:02 AM To: Looper's Delight Subject: FS: JamMan $350, 32 sec, Harmony Central Respond to e-mail in ad, not to sender: FS:Lexicon JamMan Asking Price: US$350 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Lexdicon JamMan Delay Looper . With memory upgrade of 32 Seconds. Mint with Dual footswitch, AC adapter, and manual. $350 plus shipping. Seller: Ken Volpe, 203/966-2096 E-mail: kjvguitar@aol.com (Profile) Post Date: 5/12/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 15:08:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA27006; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:08:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:08:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: MPC3000 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: <003101be9c9e$a9a066e0$26ee8fd1@linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"1h4KU1.0.TD3.CoREt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi guys, Has anyone hear had any experience with this box? Some told me that they had seen someone using it for live looping. Is this possible? Can it record and sample in realtime? Expensive looper, yes, but probably a pretty kicking live sample tool too. Thanks, bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 15:39:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA32392; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:39:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:39:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@csi.com Message-ID: <37398280.1F38BAF9@csi.com> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:30:40 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! References: <000401be9bf0$18a86ce0$a2b8aacc@seanix> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HAI-t1.0.o-5.QuSEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com a lot of ATTACK with just practically no SUSTAIN ... RELEASE us from this DECAY please kim ... maybe we can put the burnt ashes of a tacoma guitar in the envelopes and mail them to the SALESMEN on this list ... :-) feeling nasty after all this spam, <:~|> -the man cable- Steven Perry wrote: > > Now, are these pitch envelopes or amplitude envelopes? > > -----Original Message----- > From: toukol@mindspring.com > To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 4:42 PM > Subject: Homeworkers Needed! > > >Dear Future Associate, > > > >You Can Work At Home & Set Your Own Hours. Start earning Big > >Money in a short time > > > > NO Newspaper Advertising! > > > >Your job will be to stuff and mail envelopes for our company. You > >will receive $.25 for each and every envelope you stuff and mail > >out. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 15:44:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA00544; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:44:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:44:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905121836.OAA10400@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: midi looping hardware Resent-Message-ID: <"kBOmw.0.vN5.-eSEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Bill 'Hawkeye' Reiter said: > I do overdubbing similar to what you describe on my Roland MC50 sequencer > (used $200). I can setup locate points or simply use 'loop play' mode and > mute tracks or add tracks on each iteration. Along with my MC50, an EDP, a I had no idea that the MC-50 had a loop play mode! I'll have to RTFM again now that I'm entering a loop state of mind. For years I used Director-S, the optional sequencer software for the Roland S-550 sampler. In this sequencer, you make patterns and then specify their order in song mode. The method of making patterns seems like it would easily adapt to looping and overdubbing. Bill home: billfox@fast.net work: BillFox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of Emusic, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org My band site: http://www.crosswinds.net/allentown/~shadowplay "Those little boys don't think too much about what they say... (And how can they know what they mean before they hear what they say?)" - Heike M. Madder From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 16:14:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA05561; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:14:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:14:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:14:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven E. Barnes" Message-Id: <199905121914.MAA21363@shell12.ba.best.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Mac vs PC / MOTU In-Reply-To: <199905120707.DAA16414@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"A6KX92.0.pw6.IDTEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:30:56 +0200 From: Leo Cavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: PC vs. Mac for recording Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990511123056.0069a538@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 22.23 10/05/99 -0500, you wrote: >If you have to build your setup get a Mac. >If you wanna do some pro recording get a Mac (more for the stability thing, >not for audio quality: I can get really good results with PC too). I've endured so many "bomb" dialogs while doing audio editing on the Mac that I would be laughing if the memories weren't so painful. The latest issue (May 99) of Electronic Musician has a very positive review of the MOTU 2408. -steve From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 16:35:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA08706; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:35:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:35:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990512154344.00aced40@pop.simons-rock.edu> X-Sender: nick@pop.simons-rock.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:43:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: nick ring Subject: Re: FS: JamMan $350, 32 sec, Harmony Central In-Reply-To: <199905121702.KAA11856@scv2.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"frf2-1.0.I7.kdTEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For what it's worth, I just called. I was #13. He's gonna repost at a higher price since people are already offering him more. I don't know that he'll hit the magical $700, but... -nick At 12:02 PM 5/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >Respond to e-mail in ad, not to sender: > > > >FS:Lexicon JamMan > >Asking Price: US$350 >Condition: Mint >Age: N/A >Description: > > Lexdicon JamMan Delay Looper . With memory upgrade of 32 Seconds. > Mint with Dual footswitch, AC adapter, and manual. > $350 plus shipping. > >Seller: Ken Volpe, 203/966-2096 >E-mail: kjvguitar@aol.com (Profile) >Post Date: 5/12/99 > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 16:50:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA11105; Wed, 12 May 1999 16:50:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:50:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD092D695@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Homeworkers Needed! Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:57:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"o98tL.0.4h.MrTEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ** i first read this as an attack of satan . . . which is appropos i think. > a lot of ATTACK with just practically no SUSTAIN ... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 17:59:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA22847; Wed, 12 May 1999 17:59:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:59:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:19:40 -0700 From: "sock s" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Why no power switch on Vortex? X-Sender-Ip: 208.142.15.86 Organization: N2Mail (http://www.n2mail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"I7gwV.0.YU3.DuUEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am wondering why there is no power (on/off) switch on the Lexicon Vortex What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. http://www.n2mail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 18:51:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA32711; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:51:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:51:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000401be9cc3$cbf8f980$32b9aacc@seanix> From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:07:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"xx_tI2.0.mo5.QhVEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Are we to stuff pitch envelopes or amplitude envelopes? -----Original Message----- From: bethany cassin To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! >Sure, but only if I can include fliers for upcoming gigs. > >toukol@mindspring.com wrote: > >> Dear Future Associate, >> >> You Can Work At Home & Set Your Own Hours. Start earning Big >> Money in a short time >> >> NO Newspaper Advertising! >> >> Your job will be to stuff and mail envelopes for our company. You >> will receive $.25 for each and every envelope you stuff and mail >> out. >> >> Just follow our simple instructions and you will be making money >> as easy as >> 1… 2… 3 >> >> For example stuff and mail 200 envelopes and you will receive >> $50.00. Stuff and mail 1000 and you will receive $250.00. Stuff >> and mail 2000 and you will receive $500.00 and more >> >> Never before has there been an easier way to make money from >> home! >> >> Our Company's Home Mailing Program is designed for people with >> little or no experience and provides simple, step by step >> instructions. >> >> There is no prior experience or special skills necessary on your >> part, Just stuffing envelopes. >> >> We need the help of honest and reliable home workers like you. >> Because we are overloaded with work and have more than our staff >> can handle. We have now expanded our mailing program and are >> expecting to reach millions more with our offers throughout the >> US and Canada. >> >> Our system of stuffing and mailing envelopes is very simple and >> easy to do! >> You will not be required to buy envelopes or postage stamps. >> >> We will gladly furnish all circulars at no cost to you. We assure >> you that as a participant in our program you will never have to >> mail anything objective or offensive. >> >> There are no quotas to meet, and there no contracts to sign. You >> can work as much, or as little as you want. Payment for each >> envelope you send out is Guaranteed! >> >> Here is what you will receive when you get your first Package. >> Inside you will find 100 envelopes, 100 labels and 100 sales >> letters ready to stuff and mail >> >> As soon as you are done with stuffing and mailing these first >> letters, your payment will arrive shortly, thereafter. All you >> have to do is to order more free supplies and stuff and mail more >> envelopes to make more money. >> >> Our sales literature which you will be stuffing and mailing will >> contain >> information outlining our highly informative manuals that we are >> advertising nationwide. As a free gift you will receive a >> special manual valued at $24.95, absolutely free, just for >> joining our Home Mailers Program. >> >> Plus you will get your own special code number, so that we will >> know how much you are to get paid. And to make re-ordering of >> more envelopes, that our company supplies very simple for you. >> >> We are giving you this free bonus because we want you to be >> confident in our company and to ensure that we will be doing >> business with you for a long time. >> >> Benefits Of This Job: >> >> 1. You do not have to quit your present job, to earn more money >> at home >> 2. You can make between $2,500 to $4,500 a month depending on the >> amount of time you are willing to spend stuffing and mailing >> envelopes >> 3. This is a great opportunity for the students, mothers, >> disabled persons or those who are home bodies. >> >> To secure your position and to show us that you are serious about >> earning extra income at home we require a one-time registration >> fee of $35.00. >> This fee covers the cost of your initial start up package, which >> includes 100 envelopes, 100 labels and 100 sales letters and a >> manual, your registration fee will be refunded back to you >> shortly thereafter. >> >> Money Back Guarantee! >> >> We guarantee that as soon as you stuff and mail your first 300 >> envelopes You will be paid $75.00 and your registration fee will >> be refunded. >> >> Many of you wonder why it is necessary to pay a deposit to get a >> job. It is because we are looking for people that seriously want >> to work from home. >> >> * If 3.000 people told us they wanted to start working from home >> and we sent out 3.000 packages free to every one. And then half >> of the people decided not to work, this would be a potential loss >> of more than $60,000 in supply's and shipping that we have sent >> out to people that don't want to work >> >> We have instituted this policy to make sure that you really want >> to work and at least finish your first package. >> >> To Get Started Today Please Enclose Your Registration Fee of $35 >> Check,Cash Or Money Order and fill out the application below and >> mail to: >> >> AHWA CO >> Pmb >> 1928 E. Highland Blvd >> Ste #F104-902 >> Phoenix, Az 85016 >> >> Name_____________________________________________________ >> >> Address___________________________________________________ >> >> City____________________________________ State______________ >> >> Zip Code________________ >> >> Telephone Number(s)_________________________________________ >> >> E-mail Address______________________________________________ >> >> For all orders, please allow seven (7) days for delivery and up >> to 10 days. Cash and Money Orders will result in faster shipping >> of your package. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 20:07:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA14399; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:07:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:07:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:06:04 -0700 Message-ID: <001B54AD.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Homeworkers NOT needed anymore, disregard previous message! To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, "Steven Perry" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"8iARk3.0.yv.JeWEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I only wish I had the email address of the agent(s) who sent this damn message! >> AHWA CO >> Pmb >> 1928 E. Highland Blvd >> Ste #F104-902 >> Phoenix, Az 85016 No phone number, no email address, no contact name! Oh yeah baby! This has got to be LEGIT!!! I'm a little dismayed to continue seeing this entire SPAM message continuously reposted to the list... I have enjoyed the humorous comments though. 'Tis truly the stuff of SATAN and Corporate Capitalism! Anyone actually taking them up on their offer to take $35.00 in return for $25.00 worth of materials?.. Hmmm. All you have to do is stuff $75.00 dollars worth and they refund your initial $35.00 registration fee! Awesome deal! -m > Are we to stuff pitch envelopes or amplitude envelopes? >> -----Original Message----- snipped!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 20:50:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA21644; Wed, 12 May 1999 20:50:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:50:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373A09FC.619AAB38@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:08:43 +1100 From: Brad Knox Reply-To: B.Knox@latrobe.edu.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: spam : looping gigs in melbourne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"F6wMM1.0.eT3.JUXEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all... some upcoming gigs in melbourne (don't know how many of you are from australia so this probably spam) : sat 22nd at the empress nth fitzroy "polyp messiah" mon 31st at subterrain nth fitzroy "knerk" the first one is under the "noise" asthetic.. loop guitar (me), drums (phil "yes thats with a 'g'" collings) and mangled bass (iain downie of circushead etc) .. there will certainly be a few envelopes stuffed. the second one is just me in a more relaxed mode (although there is always some leakage from polyp)... both are probably around 9 or 10 pm ... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 12 22:30:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA07764; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:30:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:30:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373A3333.DEF2F156@apex.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:04:35 -0500 From: James Devillez Reply-To: grndflor@apex.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: re:posting Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Eyq3D2.0.fa.Y9ZEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com why do you guys keep reposting the entire message Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! we understand From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 05:52:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA12367; Thu, 13 May 1999 05:52:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 05:52:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990513082959.006ca614@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:29:59 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leo Cavallo Subject: Re: Why no power switch on Vortex? Resent-Message-ID: <"bsYbz.0.Eu.hveEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am wondering why there are no more web pages dedicated to this great unit.... tips? patches? tricks? anyone? ciao leo At 12.19 12/05/99 -0700, you wrote: > >I am wondering why there is no power (on/off) switch on the Lexicon Vortex > > >What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. >http://www.n2mail.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 13:08:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA14344; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE9D25.DB817DC0.stevehan@transworld-lax.com> From: Steve Han Reply-To: "stevehan@transworld-lax.com" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: tomatoes Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:46:48 -0700 Organization: Transworld Freight Systems X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HPyPE3.0.nL2.nCmEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There is really no bad time to plant tomatoes except during the winter and depending on where you live. Use pesticide and wire bracing. If you can, grow them in an indoor arboretum to avoid insects or worms. Now if you want to know how to loop the tomatoes into your Echoplex device, I suggest extreme caution and consult your local loop doctor before commencing. Curbie -----Original Message----- From: Mary Arbogast Arbogast [SMTP:mjarbogast@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 11:01 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: tomatoes i would like to know when is the best ime to plant and get best results From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 13:08:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA14030; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003601be9d60$a1461ae0$a65bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <2.2.32.19990513082959.006ca614@mail.dada.it> Subject: Vortex micro-tip. Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:10:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"4OvyH1.0.py1.X5mEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try some type of screaming mutron doing a morph.I have't got the unit, but i think i made this with Aerosol. I think no power because is cheap.The power suply is VERY cheap too. Good health! Julio ----- Original Message ----- From: Leo Cavallo To: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 5:29 AM Subject: Re: Why no power switch on Vortex? > I am wondering why there are no more web pages dedicated to this great unit.... > tips? patches? tricks? anyone? > > ciao > leo > > At 12.19 12/05/99 -0700, you wrote: > > > >I am wondering why there is no power (on/off) switch on the Lexicon Vortex > > > > > >What are you N2? Choose from 150 free e-mail addresses. > >http://www.n2mail.com > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 14:03:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA28631; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:03:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:03:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <4fc91306.246c685f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:39:43 EDT Subject: Re: loop the loop the lupe the lay! To: p.driessen@axis.nl CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"1wLgk3.0.9t5.zxmEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Heer Driessen wrote: " What I want a digital loopmachine with which you can INSERT material in a certain point in time, but DELETE the previous sound in that point. That way you could correct the sound and make fancy "1 or 2 alteration at a time Philip Glass music" and at the same time make fast harmonic transitions, by simply inserting everything you play. In the analog way it is simple, but poorer in quality. So I want a digital machine that has got the facilities to do just that. tjau, paul" Lee's response was:" From what I am seeing on the Looper's Delight Digest, the only animal that can really allow you to make such changes is the Oberheim Echoplex, where it can deal in "parts" vs. machines like the Zoom 2100 which essentially plays back samples, but does not allow for much in the way of layering or altering on the fly. At least without the same degree as the Oberheim. A boomerang, may be able to do this with only two parts, but I could be wrong... Hate to shoot you to only one option on a rack unit or stomp box. There is a bit of software for the IBM clone or the Mac that'll do this too, but like most, I'm dubious about bringing something as fragile as a computer to a gig, even though I've done it in the past. Rack mounting it was definitely the way to go, I might add, vs. free standing, but the expenses... Tchau, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 14:39:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA03557; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:39:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:39:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: X-Sender: cqlung@mail.geocities.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:55:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Q Subject: jam man question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"A9AJ42.0.n07.VGnEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com
Just got my Jam Man after 3 months of waiting!  I am however, having a problem. It responds fine to the analog footswitches, but I can't get it to recognize my MIDI controller. I have an RFX Midibuddy (MP128P).  I have the Jam Man to receive channel 1. I have the RFX to send on channel 1, but there is no response whatsoever. I really want to use the MIDI controller so I don't have to scroll through the functions with the regular switches. I've checked the MIDI cable, and the controller works fine with my other processor. Is there some secret to getting this thing to work? Please help, after so long a wait to get this machine I want to use it! Thank you...............CQ


www.jigglethehandle.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 16:07:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA30326; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:07:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:07:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:26:06 EDT Subject: Re: Why no power switch on Vortex?website To: cavallo@dada.it, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <"7wiYX1.0.A44.iVoEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 13/05/99 10:52:33 GMT Daylight Time, cavallo@dada.it writes: > I am wondering why there are no more web pages dedicated to this great > unit.... > tips? patches? tricks? anyone? > Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database (new section on undocumented features) http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm guess you've seen it already though encourage me to add more to the site by submitting a few patches I may be tempted to reveal the unprecedented 'dual looper ' patch. and yes there's no power switch 'cos it's got a wall wart. AB From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 16:59:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA17789; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:59:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:59:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007b01be9d80$9acf3c80$4696adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Why no power switch on Vortex?website Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:38:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"8AHn3.0.Iv.TKpEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Andy: don't make us beg ;) Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net >Lexicon Vortex Database (new section on undocumented features) >http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm > >guess you've seen it already though > >encourage me to add more to the site by submitting a few patches > >I may be tempted to reveal the unprecedented 'dual looper ' patch. SNIP >AB > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 18:05:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA03611; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:05:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:05:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <018701be9c7e$cd9d4100$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:36:12 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Sync diagram Resent-Message-ID: <"NCKRu3.0.AQ6.tFqEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I can't find the diagram on the website. (Kim, help!) I put the manual as Macintosh Word 5 sit file on my page under: http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/Museng.htm If this still not helps, I send you the pict attached. >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tips/Plhints.html#hint13 mentions the BREAK >key. I see this is a key on the original Paradis LoopDelay. What is the >equivalent on the EDP? Mute. It felt then, that break is rather musicians, mute rather technicians language. But the function is identical. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 20:34:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA02347; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:34:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:34:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990513200740.007a2ab0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:07:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: tomatoes In-Reply-To: <01BE9D25.DB817DC0.stevehan@transworld-lax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"pZuXN.0.aY6.QVsEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For the secret teachings revealing the esoteric connection between looping and gardening, click here>>> At 09:46 AM 5/13/99 -0700, you wrote: >There is really no bad time to plant tomatoes >except during the winter and depending on where >you live. Use pesticide and wire bracing. >If you can, grow them in an indoor arboretum >to avoid insects or worms. > >Now if you want to know how to loop the tomatoes >into your Echoplex device, I suggest extreme caution >and consult your local loop doctor before commencing. > >Curbie From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 22:21:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA20408; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:21:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:21:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1285472230==_ma============" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:51:03 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: jam man question Resent-Message-ID: <"gZ02d.0.pm3.E6uEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --============_-1285472230==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 5/12/99 chris Q. wrote: >Just got my Jam Man after 3 months of waiting! I am however, having a >problem. It responds fine to the analog footswitches, but I can't get it >to recognize my MIDI controller. I have an RFX Midibuddy (MP128P). I have >the Jam Man to receive channel 1. I have the RFX to send on channel 1, but >there is no response whatsoever. I really want to use the MIDI controller >so I don't have to scroll through the functions with the regular switches. >I've checked the MIDI cable, and the controller works fine with my other >processor. Is there some secret to getting this thing to work? Please >help, after so long a wait to get this machine I want to use it! Thank >you...............CQ Chris, It's been quite a while since I programmed my PMC-10 to control jam men, but I think you may need to either add 1 or subtract 1 from the program change # listed in the Lexicon manual. Try this with one of the MIDI fades messages. Besides hearing the audio fade the jammer will have three dots come on in the display to let you know it is fading. Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net --============_-1285472230==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" On 5/12/99 chris Q. wrote: Just got my Jam Man after 3 months of waiting! I am however, having a problem. It responds fine to the analog footswitches, but I can't get it to recognize my MIDI controller. I have an RFX Midibuddy (MP128P). I have the Jam Man to receive channel 1. I have the RFX to send on channel 1, but there is no response whatsoever. I really want to use the MIDI controller so I don't have to scroll through the functions with the regular switches. I've checked the MIDI cable, and the controller works fine with my other processor. Is there some secret to getting this thing to work? Please help, after so long a wait to get this machine I want to use it! Thank you...............CQ Chris, It's been quite a while since I programmed my PMC-10 to control jam men, but I think you may need to either add 1 or subtract 1 from the program change # listed in the Lexicon manual. Try this with one of the MIDI fades messages. Besides hearing the audio fade the jammer will have three dots come on in the display to let you know it is fading. Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net --============_-1285472230==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 13 22:33:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA22326; Thu, 13 May 1999 22:33:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:33:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 22:00:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Vortex Dual Looper Patch Resent-Message-ID: <"9s8f2.0.294.DFuEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 5/1/99 Andy Butlar wrote: >Lexicon Vortex Database (new section on undocumented features) >http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm > >guess you've seen it already though > >encourage me to add more to the site by submitting a few patches > >I may be tempted to reveal the unprecedented 'dual looper ' patch. Give in to that temptation Andy...give in and then may more of us can sin... Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 00:55:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA16172; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:55:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:55:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:20:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199905140420.AAA08671@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Mailing-List: epigram@egroups.com From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Invitation to join epigram@egroups.com Reply-To: epigram-req-s7d8029@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"I1Aad2.0.h72.kIwEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is the eGroups.com service. 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The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 02:55:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA02809; Fri, 14 May 1999 02:55:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 02:55:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01d601be9dd4$241f2100$b798adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: didgeridoo info Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:36:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LYcTV2.0.Aa7.r2yEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Leo: don't know if BobDog or Dennis or Peter S. got back to you, but e-me if you still need info on the didg or e-me your phone # since I'm really pathetic as a typist any of you other loopers tired of the same old sympathetic strings or litlle electrobleeps want to try the instrument which is the PRIMAL VOICE (with built-in analog flanger and vibrato) are also welcome to call Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Leo Cavallo To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, May 02, 1999 6:18 AM Subject: didgeridoo info >I remember that on the list there are few guys playing these beasts... >I've just bought one to add its sound to my sampling and looping setup... >any link about the didgeridoo? mailing list? suggestions? infos? > >thnx >ciao >leo > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 03:01:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA03481; Fri, 14 May 1999 03:01:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 03:01:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01e401be9dd4$71f10100$b798adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: FS: JamMan $350, 32 sec, Harmony Central Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:38:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"cfyMx2.0.hg7.s4yEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HA--I was # 14 and he just reposted it for $625 . . . a trifle high, I thinks drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: nick ring To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 3:55 PM Subject: Re: FS: JamMan $350, 32 sec, Harmony Central > > For what it's worth, I just called. I was #13. He's gonna > repost at a higher price since people are already offering > him more. I don't know that he'll hit the magical $700, but... > > -nick > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 10:02:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA23521; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:02:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:02:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905141346.JAA16351@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"8XxC81.0._75.Ob2Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #114 May 13, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net Due to random elements and the fractal nature of the space-time continuum, this week's installment of the month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest) didn't occur in this timeline or dimension. This temporal infraction will be only a temporary anomoly. Space music has ancestry in Progressive rock and in my first show, I promised that I wouldn't totally abandon the audience of Jim Ferrani's show Deep Cuts, an Art and Progressive Rock program. Next week, special guest Chad Hutchinson, webmaster of the Ghostland web site and Vice President of NEARfest will present the music of the bands to be appearing at the inaugural NEARfest. Ghostland : http://ghostland.com NEARfest : http://ghostland.com/nearfest EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Fountainhead Mist Cloud Cover (Aucourant) Bjorn Fogelberg Trioxidation KarooshiPorn (Ninetysix Sounds) Jon Durant Stretching the Night Sky Anatomy of a Wish (Alchemy) Pryamid Peak Dreamscape part 1 Atmosphere (Invisible Shadows) VA [Lamert & Friends] Floating Images Syntonic Waves Vol 2(Woodberry) VA [Lamert & Friends] Obscure Road Syntonic Waves Vol 2(Woodberry) Arttek Chill of Change Sometime Friend (none) Alan Parsons Project Hyper-Gamma-Spaces Pyramid (Arista) Paul Nagle Eaten by Pigs The Live Element (AMP) 12:00 am VA [Steve Roach] The Eternal Expanse The Ambient Expanse (Mirage) Don Slepian Sea of Bliss Sea of Bliss (Fortuna) Kenton Files The Weight of Klaus Kenton Files Demo (none)++ VA [Saul Stokes] Ivaneer Voyager (AdAstra) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = from A Klaus Schulze Tribute (Manikin) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest) with special guest Chad Hutchinson. The Feature CD at Midnight will return in June. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 10:26:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA27413; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:26:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:26:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <00ce01be9e12$0bb89a40$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Sync diagram Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:59:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PPksW.0.7-5.-t2Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Got it! Thanks very much. I printed a copy and will study it this weekend. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Sync diagram > >>I can't find the diagram on the website. (Kim, help!) > >I put the manual as Macintosh Word 5 sit file on my page under: >http://matthias.grob.org/pMusEng/Museng.htm >If this still not helps, I send you the pict attached. > >>http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tips/Plhints.html#hint13 mentions the BREAK >>key. I see this is a key on the original Paradis LoopDelay. What is the >>equivalent on the EDP? > >Mute. It felt then, that break is rather musicians, mute rather technicians >language. But the function is identical. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 10:45:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA31095; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:45:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:45:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <00e101be9e14$858b5c70$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Loop de Looper Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:17:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"J3nSo2.0.Pc6.Y83Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's something new I found. Haven't seen it posted before so I'll tell you all about it. I happened to have a radio next to my effect rack the other day and noticed it receives some interesting RFI from the effects. Most of the noise comes from my old Yamaha SPX-90 but the EDPs generate some too. Cool sounding bleeps and rhythms. Of course, I HAD to loop the sound from the radio coming from the looper. So here's a new way to loop the looper! Try both the AM and FM band. Play with the tuner. Some settings on my SPX-90 and EDP affect the sounds, others don't. Remember, the possibility are endless when you're looping (pun intended). Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 10:51:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA32625; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:51:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:51:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <012801be9e16$1dcf3320$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: tomatoes Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:29:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"_I0EO2.0.-77.GJ3Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My favorite from this website is "After hatching, the loopers feed on foliage and produce a ragged appearance." Hey, I resemble that remark! Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, May 13, 1999 7:35 PM Subject: RE: tomatoes >For the secret teachings revealing the esoteric connection between looping >and gardening, click here>>> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 12:09:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA15996; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:09:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:09:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905140722.DAA06551@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:44:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: powerbook G3 recording Resent-Message-ID: <"nbQGd.0.jU2.0H4Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have always heard that the internal HD is not fast enough, and an external SCSI (or firewire at this point, I suppose) is necessary. The machines are getting faster though, so who knows. Last time I asked was when the 1400 came out. Go to ogrady.com - they have a few items on powerbook recording. A really insanely great reference to digital audio in general is at http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/audio/ MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 12:21:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA18650; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:21:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:21:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mailing-List: contact epigram-owner@egroups.com X-Mailing-List: epigram@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/epigram/ Reply-To: epigram@egroups.com Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-epigram@egroups.com Message-ID: <00aa01be9e22$e7eda360$6ebfea82@ainola.jyu.fi> From: "Sami Poimala" To: References: <7F756A7F899DD11187BF0000C07018E50131F13C@soaspw1.soa.alcoa. <9065291.001404CFE8.uuout@online.com.br> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:00:36 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Subject: [epigram] Re: Angra is perfect? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"QIucy3.0.J63.2S4Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I've seen Angra live twice also, and they're really great! It's >impossibel to find any mistakes in their show, It's like we were >listening to their records. I mean, they're not actually great, in fact >they're perfect! one of the best bands ever! I just wonder is this the most important thing in music? To not to make any mistakes? So fucking what, if there is one wrong note? Does word 'music' mean nothing else but "some technical tricks accomplished by musical instruments"? Sami ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired of waiting for your stock quotes and charts to load? StockMaster is super-fast for quotes, charts, news, and portfolios. 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Reply-To: epigram-unsubscribe-loopers-delight=annihilist.com@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"tpliI2.0.Qb2.wI4Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is the eGroups.com service. You have been added to the epigram@egroups.com group. Here is a welcome message provided by qrfw@hotmail.com: ------------------ ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** Hi, this is from epigram's *discussion* mailing list that will let you discuss everything referring to Progressive Metal and bands as Fates Warning, Dream Theater and Psychotic Waltz. This list is NOT moderated and it's open to every thread or idea. Nobody is forced there to talk in a "proper" way. michael m. 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The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 12:39:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA22654; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:39:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:39:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mailing-List: contact epigram-owner@egroups.com X-Mailing-List: epigram@egroups.com X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/epigram/ Reply-To: epigram@egroups.com Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-epigram@egroups.com Message-ID: <373C449D.6BCD21AD@ilos.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:43:26 -0500 From: "Dark Angel(Alex Zandretta)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: epigram@egroups.com References: Subject: [epigram] the band Fight!:now that i have your attention here's I'm a machine that i wrote,it's about as fight sounding as i could get at the time Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4A1A6F0BEF9AA5A640AA9972" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZNBEj.0.i13.QQ4Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------4A1A6F0BEF9AA5A640AA9972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: 7bit content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now that i have your attention,this tune was during my listening to fight alot,has the same flavor as nailed to the gun,fast an pissed off,the tune was recorded on a 8 track(drum spank guess if you can tell what the drums were done on,bet you won't figure it out...*laughter*)the guitar tone was done on an old piece of shit rockman that i had a bitch of a time getting a ballsy tone on,over all the tune ended up on the radio here about 6 month's ago,was pretty cool.....92.1 citi fm,here's were you can grab the tune it's fairly small about 2 and halsf meg,let me know what you guy's think of this i would really like an opinion on it..... http://www.ilos.net/~vbobby/I'm%20a%20Machine.MP3 if this link does not work just go here http://www.ilos.net/~vbobby ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Track your stocks and funds in a StockMaster portfolio. 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Now that i have your attention,this tune was during my listening to fight alot,has the same flavor as nailed to the gun,fast an pissed off,the tune was recorded on a 8 track(drum spank guess if you can tell what the drums were done on,bet you won't figure it out...*laughter*)the guitar tone was done on an old piece of shit rockman that i had a bitch of a time getting a ballsy tone on,over all the tune ended up on the radio here about 6 month's ago,was pretty cool.....92.1 citi fm,here's were you can grab the tune it's fairly small about 2 and halsf meg,let me know what you guy's think of this i would really like an opinion on it.....
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"EVap32.0.k15.H-4Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >So fucking what, if there is one wrong note? >Does word 'music' mean nothing else but "some technical tricks > >accomplished by musical instruments"? I agree with you but not in every case. I'll explain this by sth that happened to me before a month. I bought this Marillion tribute disk and *some* of the songs covered there are IMO not that technical (especially in vocals) as they are in the original versions. The thing is, I felt like shit when I was listening to these songs. I returned to my marillion disks in a minute to recover! : ) So, what I'm trying to say is that in some cases a song *has* to be technical to be ok but I really agree with you, it's not the most important. 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The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:11:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA30190; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:11:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:11:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:38:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141638.MAA22450@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"EmGB32.0._U5.N65Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:12:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA30656; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:12:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:12:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:56:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141656.MAA26270@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"w3QpF3.0.gQ6.BN5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:13:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA31036; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:13:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:13:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:03:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141703.NAA28052@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"ejVgZ2.0.ds6.BT5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:20:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA32698; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:20:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:20:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:01:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141701.NAA27572@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"Gj8xq.0.0l6.3S5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:26:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA01606; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:26:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:26:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:03:41 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141703.NAA28254@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"8-xXf.0.jv6.lT5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:43:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05033; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:43:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:43:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD092D6A6@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:24:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"9Okdz2.0.vG.Un5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com now this is a loop. who has the undo function? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:50:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA06373; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:50:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:50:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:29:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141729.NAA02001@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"y2Tot2.0.UV.dr5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 13:52:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA06665; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:52:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:52:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:13:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141713.NAA31015@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"PL93z3.0.pa7.lc5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 14:03:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA09104; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:03:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:03:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:14:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141714.NAA31118@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"mFsHW3.0.bc7.cd5Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 14:44:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA17545; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:44:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:44:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:02:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199905141902.NAA03485@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com Resent-Message-ID: <"pDiUZ3.0.VP2.NO6Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what=B4s this??? get me out of this e-groups shit!!! At 01:29 PM 14/05/99 -0400, you wrote: > >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the >epigram e-mail group as requested. > >The e-mail address you sent your message from > >loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >is not a member of the epigram group. > >You probably subscribed under an address different from what you >currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in >use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to >retrieve this address. > >Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at >the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail >programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You >can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah >Blah" button.) > >Please look for a header like:=20 > >'Return-Path: ' > >The information in the header that occupies the same place as > > user=3Dhost.dom@egroups.com > >in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. > >To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to > > epigram-unsubscribe-user=3Dhost.dom@egroups.com > >replacing "user=3Dhost.dom@egroups.com" with the address information >in the Return-Path header of the message you received. > >After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and >you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. > >If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've >received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to >the group moderator: > > epigram-owner@egroups.com > >We're very sorry for this inconvenience. > >The eGroups.com Team >--- >FREE Web-based e-mail groups! >http://www.egroups.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 14:49:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA18732; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:49:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:49:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:14:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141814.OAA11513@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"99Xa72.0.8q2.nV6Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 14:49:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA18722; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:49:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:49:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C688A.4DF31918@miravant.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:16:42 -0700 From: Alistair Wilson Organization: Miravant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com References: <199905141636.MAA22059@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iqRBv1.0.vw2.XY6Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't understand. Can you unsubscribe me now? Thanks "eGroups.com Manager" wrote: > We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the > epigram e-mail group as requested. > > The e-mail address you sent your message from > > loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > is not a member of the epigram group. > > You probably subscribed under an address different from what you > currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in > use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to > retrieve this address. > > Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at > the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail > programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You > can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah > Blah" button.) > > Please look for a header like: > > 'Return-Path: ' > > The information in the header that occupies the same place as > > user=host.dom@egroups.com > > in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. > > To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to > > epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com > > replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information > in the Return-Path header of the message you received. > > After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and > you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. > > If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've > received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to > the group moderator: > > epigram-owner@egroups.com > > We're very sorry for this inconvenience. > > The eGroups.com Team > --- > FREE Web-based e-mail groups! > http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 15:19:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24216; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:19:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:19:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C6E88.8C04ABF4@hotjobs.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:42:17 -0400 From: Jim Opfinger Reply-To: jopfinger@hotjobs.com Organization: Hot Jobs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: larry@vexcel.com CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang wanted! References: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32BFFD@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> <373C66E7.4BA52F5F@vexcel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"tcExj.0.fK4.7z6Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw one recently on ebay. Quite expensive though. JOP Larry Peterson wrote: > Greetings! > > I got to try one of these beasts a couple of weeks ago and I want > one! I've called my local music stores and they either don't know > what I'm talking about or they "have a few on order". > > Can anyone help me locate one? > > Thanks > > - Larry -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COME SEE US AT: IHRIM in Salt Lake City, Utah June 13-16, 1999 Booth 219 & 221 SHRM in Atlanta, Georgia June 27-30, 1999 Booths 1537 & 1539 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Opfinger jopfinger@hotjobs.com Account Executive tel: 212.302.0060 fax: 212.944.8962 Hotjobs.com, Ltd. www.hotjobs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today has never happened...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'" -- Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 15:21:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24720; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:21:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:21:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C6F7C.B79C8AA@hotjobs.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:46:20 -0400 From: Jim Opfinger Reply-To: jopfinger@hotjobs.com Organization: Hot Jobs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com References: <199905141902.NAA03485@servidor.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"IM62U1.0.Ka4.w07Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I hear that! Andy Soto wrote: > what´s this??? get me out of this e-groups shit!!! > > At 01:29 PM 14/05/99 -0400, you wrote: > > > >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the > >epigram e-mail group as requested. > > > >The e-mail address you sent your message from > > > >loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > > >is not a member of the epigram group. > > > >You probably subscribed under an address different from what you > >currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in > >use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to > >retrieve this address. > > > >Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at > >the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail > >programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You > >can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah > >Blah" button.) > > > >Please look for a header like: > > > >'Return-Path: ' > > > >The information in the header that occupies the same place as > > > > user=host.dom@egroups.com > > > >in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. > > > >To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to > > > > epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com > > > >replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information > >in the Return-Path header of the message you received. > > > >After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and > >you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. > > > >If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've > >received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to > >the group moderator: > > > > epigram-owner@egroups.com > > > >We're very sorry for this inconvenience. > > > >The eGroups.com Team > >--- > >FREE Web-based e-mail groups! > >http://www.egroups.com > > > > > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COME SEE US AT: IHRIM in Salt Lake City, Utah June 13-16, 1999 Booth 219 & 221 SHRM in Atlanta, Georgia June 27-30, 1999 Booths 1537 & 1539 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Opfinger jopfinger@hotjobs.com Account Executive tel: 212.302.0060 fax: 212.944.8962 Hotjobs.com, Ltd. www.hotjobs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today has never happened...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'" -- Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 15:56:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA31378; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:56:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:56:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <5bb584a7.246dd1ba@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:21:30 EDT Subject: Re: powerbook G3 recording To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"rdqa82.0.T56.ZV7Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have a powerbook G3 266 loaded with Digital Performer 2.5. It records up to 18 tracks just fine. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 15:51:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA30518; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:51:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:51:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <018a01be9e3d$9c6bb290$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:11:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"0o1P51.0.-u5.US7Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I believe the first one of us that unsubscribed did so successfully. As the rest of us tried to unsubscribe, the epigram list server bounces the unsubscribe message, since Loopers-Delight is now unsubscribed. I suggest nobody else try unsubscribing and the annoying messages should eventually stop. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: eGroups.com Manager To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 1:52 PM Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com > >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the >epigram e-mail group as requested. > >The e-mail address you sent your message from > >loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >is not a member of the epigram group. > blah-blah-blah From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 16:20:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA04108; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:20:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:20:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:48:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141948.PAA29575@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"T_iAX1.0.KE7.pt7Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 16:22:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA04658; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:22:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:22:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:46:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199905141946.PAA29342@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"AXItq2.0.gA7.1s7Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 16:48:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA10460; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:48:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:48:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000001be9e46$91e29ec0$a942b5a3@sseaver.amd.com> From: "Tragicom" To: Subject: Digitech/DOD RDS Series Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:06:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9E1B.66E8F000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"EZdv31.0.0u.qJ8Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9E1B.66E8F000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlemen, Background: I came across your name while I was searching for an analog delay for = use with my guitar rig. Back in the early 80s I purchased a unit from = Dod/Digitech that was a 19-inch rack that had three protruding buttons = and two knobs. This unit was fantastic. Unfortunately I got rid of it = and have been suffering ever since. I have been trying to replace it = but I couldn't remember the model number. It is my belief that these = units used analog techniques to create delay( charge-coupled devices). =20 Question: Do the RDS-2000,4000,8000 units utilize analog(CCDs) = technology? Where can I purchase these units? I think my unit was = marked with "DOD" Thanks -charlie=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9E1B.66E8F000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gentlemen,
 
Background:
I came across your name while I was = searching=20 for an analog delay for use with my guitar rig.  Back in the early = 80s I=20 purchased a unit from Dod/Digitech that was a 19-inch rack that had = three=20 protruding buttons and two knobs.  This unit was fantastic. =20 Unfortunately I got rid of it and have been suffering ever since.  = I have=20 been trying to replace it but I couldn't remember the model = number.  It is=20 my belief that these units used analog techniques to create delay(=20 charge-coupled devices). 
 
Question:  Do the = RDS-2000,4000,8000 units=20 utilize analog(CCDs) technology?  Where can I purchase these = units?  I=20 think my unit was marked with "DOD"
 
Thanks = -charlie 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE9E1B.66E8F000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 16:57:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA12312; Fri, 14 May 1999 16:57:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:57:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C87B8.F2F8F6BF@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:29:44 -0400 From: Stephan Ball X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com References: <199905141729.NAA02001@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3JS043.0.TI1.HR8Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Why are you sending me this crap? I've never heard of you or subscribed to any group you sponser, nor have I changed my email address. Please desist immediately from sending this annoying harrassment. eGroups.com Manager wrote: > We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the > epigram e-mail group as requested. > > The e-mail address you sent your message from > > loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > is not a member of the epigram group. > > You probably subscribed under an address different from what you > currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in > use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to > retrieve this address. > > Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at > the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail > programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You > can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah > Blah" button.) > > Please look for a header like: > > 'Return-Path: ' > > The information in the header that occupies the same place as > > user=host.dom@egroups.com > > in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. > > To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to > > epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com > > replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information > in the Return-Path header of the message you received. > > After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and > you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. > > If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've > received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to > the group moderator: > > epigram-owner@egroups.com > > We're very sorry for this inconvenience. > > The eGroups.com Team > --- > FREE Web-based e-mail groups! > http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 17:16:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA16111; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:16:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:16:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:31:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199905142031.QAA06588@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"gPU6I1.0.Kd1.VW8Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 17:22:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA17647; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:22:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:22:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:48:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199905142048.QAA10293@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"Gpf3L2.0.4X2.Bm8Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 17:23:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA17818; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:23:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:23:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <355B6363.1601@pop.interport.net> Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:34:32 -0500 From: John + Diane Parada Reply-To: jparada@changenow.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: [Fwd: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VUr56.0.cW2.7m8Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Liebig, Steuart A. wrote: > > now this is a loop. who has the undo function? thats funny. i hate epigram. we had a good thing going.MAKE THEM GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!.....jp From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 17:31:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA19556; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:31:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:31:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005401be9e4b$8f844a20$fdb5c998@stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: References: <018a01be9e3d$9c6bb290$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:51:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"Z3f0f2.0.wm2.aq8Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How the hell did this happen? Did someone somehow try to subscribe and accidentally subscribed the whole LD list? It's driving me nuts. At least you're all dealing with it too. I thought it was some bizarre nightmare. -Jesse ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis W. Leas To: Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com > I believe the first one of us that unsubscribed did so successfully. As the > rest of us tried to unsubscribe, the epigram list server bounces the > unsubscribe message, since Loopers-Delight is now unsubscribed. I suggest > nobody else try unsubscribing and the annoying messages should eventually > stop. > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: eGroups.com Manager > To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 1:52 PM > Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com > > > > > >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the > >epigram e-mail group as requested. > > > >The e-mail address you sent your message from > > > >loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > > >is not a member of the epigram group. > > > > > blah-blah-blah > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 17:53:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA24029; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:53:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:53:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:18:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199905142118.RAA16642@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"esT0h1.0.F44.tC9Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 17:54:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA24069; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:54:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:54:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Bailey, Jim" To: "'looppost'" Subject: RE: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com Date: Fri, 14 May 99 15:30:00 EDT Message-ID: <373C93CB@199.71.32.33> Rr: Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"BVzRf3.0.cF4.LF9Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the >epigram e-mail group as requested. So what happened here, did we get caught in a loop... ...caught in a loop... ...caught in a loop... ...caught in a loop... ...caught in a loop... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 18:24:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA30127; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:24:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:24:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C986C.A3B051A4@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:41:01 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com References: <018a01be9e3d$9c6bb290$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"O7Ly_2.0.tN5.va9Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I concur with Dennis, whenever I get an unwanted piece o' spam I just delete it. I figure that to reply at all just tells them that there is a (gullible?) real person that received the message, hence...... jd "Dennis W. Leas" wrote: > I believe the first one of us that unsubscribed did so successfully. As the > rest of us tried to unsubscribe, the epigram list server bounces the > unsubscribe message, since Loopers-Delight is now unsubscribed. I suggest > nobody else try unsubscribing and the annoying messages should eventually > stop. > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: eGroups.com Manager > To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com > Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 1:52 PM > Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com > > > > >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the > >epigram e-mail group as requested. > > > >The e-mail address you sent your message from > > > >loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > > >is not a member of the epigram group. > > > > blah-blah-blah From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 18:57:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA02933; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:57:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:57:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005101be9e59$8147d900$0364110a@mis13> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman@Work" From: "Stephen Goodman@Work" To: Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:31:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Resent-Message-ID: <"h1ohC1.0.fU7.jDAFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com [rustling papers from behind broadcast desk] ...Deja Vu, that strange feeling we get when - [looking around before running off to catch the milk lorry, so to see the psychiatrist] -----Original Message----- From: Bailey, Jim To: 'looppost' Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 2:56 PM Subject: RE: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com > > >>We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the >>epigram e-mail group as requested. > >So what happened here, did we get caught in a loop... > >...caught in a loop... > >...caught in a loop... > >...caught in a loop... > >...caught in a loop... > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 19:06:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA03882; Fri, 14 May 1999 19:06:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 19:06:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: toukol@mindspring.com Message-Id: <199905142236.SAA31942@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Homeworkers Needed! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 20:34:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA18592; Fri, 14 May 1999 20:34:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:34:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:03:28 -0400 Message-Id: <199905150003.UAA13066@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"q8uam.0.aC3.JdBFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 21:28:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA27548; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:28:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:28:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990515005232.00d628c8@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:52:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: loopers, lemmings, and other garden pests. Resent-Message-ID: <"35kNw2.0.BP5.HLCFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:03 PM 5/14/99 -0400, you wrote: > >We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the >epigram e-mail group as requested. Which of you looper-lemmings keeps replying to this? Perhaps the same ones who quote entire 7k spam messages back to the list along with their one-line witty comment, perhaps? It only took one bright person this morning to fix the problem, the rest of you are now causing it. I know it's Friday and you're all probably hitting the sauce pretty hard by now (or the fermented foliage), but try to keep the gray matter engaged just long enough to scroll by or hit the delete button... thanks, kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-845-6383 ATI Research kflint@atitech.com http://www.atitech.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 14 22:46:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA07978; Fri, 14 May 1999 22:46:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:46:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:11:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199905150211.WAA02426@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"izp2J1.0.6c.5VDFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. The e-mail address you sent your message from loopers-delight@annihilist.com is not a member of the epigram group. You probably subscribed under an address different from what you currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to retrieve this address. Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. You can unhide it, for example, in Eudora, by clicking the "Blah Blah Blah" button.) Please look for a header like: 'Return-Path: ' The information in the header that occupies the same place as user=host.dom@egroups.com in this example is the e-mail address you were subscribed under. To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 00:20:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA23947; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:20:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:20:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373CEF07.D91217C4@apex.net> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:50:35 -0500 From: James Devillez Reply-To: grndflor@apex.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: who got bored? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yu7k91.0._S4.jwEFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com talk about looping and not being good..we know and don't want to give them credit for anything..Subject: Problem hey..... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 06:55:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA12444; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:55:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 06:55:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@csi.com Message-ID: <373CBFEC.969CF521@csi.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:29:32 +0200 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loop de Looper References: <00e101be9e14$858b5c70$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"P9t4b2.0.Vq2.74LFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this i can't wait to try out! although i shouldn't because once i get started ... you know what happens, it's probably happening to you right now. ;-) -the man cable- Dennis W. Leas schrieb: > > Here's something new I found. Haven't seen it posted before so I'll tell > you all about it. > > I happened to have a radio next to my effect rack the other day and noticed > it receives some interesting RFI from the effects. Most of the noise comes > from my old Yamaha SPX-90 but the EDPs generate some too. Cool sounding > bleeps and rhythms. Of course, I HAD to loop the sound from the radio > coming from the looper. > > So here's a new way to loop the looper! Try both the AM and FM band. Play > with the tuner. Some settings on my SPX-90 and EDP affect the sounds, > others don't. > > Remember, the possibility are endless when you're looping (pun intended). > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 10:13:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA04618; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:13:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:13:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373D7C6A.32B6B053@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:53:46 -0400 From: Stephan Ball X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com References: <199905142048.QAA10293@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-qHkP3.0.Zr.F-NFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm still getting 5-10 of these messages in a 24 hour period, apparently corresponding to the number of "legitimate" messages from the LD list (?). Can anyone suggest a definitive solution? Maybe at the list maintenance level (Kim??). Steve eGroups.com Manager wrote: > We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the > epigram e-mail group as requested. > > The e-mail address you sent your message from > > loopers-delight@annihilist.com > > is not a member of the epigram group. > > You probably subscribed under an address different from what you > currently use. To unsubscribe you, we need to know what address was in > use when your subscription started. Fortunately, there is a way to > retrieve this address. > > Find one of the messages you have been receiving. Go to the headers at > the top of the message and find the "Return-Path:" (Some e-mail > programs, like Eudora, optionally let you hide this information. 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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:04:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"chrge2.0.wf7.PbQFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Future Associate, Ever had a spouse or significant other question you over your need to get and covet gear? I understand. They DON'T! BUT! You Can Work At Home & Set Your Own Hours.                                      NO Newspaper Advertising! Your job will be to send to Buck as much gear as you have and can get ahold of. You will receive sincere thanks and warm fuzzy like feelings for every piece of gear you mail out. Just follow our simple instructions and you will be super happy as easy as 1… 2… 3 Never before has there been an easier way to make Buck happy from home! 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Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 14:45:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA14156; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:45:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:45:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990515170455.72886.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:36:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: Homewreckers Needed! Resent-Message-ID: <"zzxSp.0.493.JxRFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Buck, Thanks for the good laugh. Can I get in on the bottom floor and have some gear sent to me also? Maybe I could even take all the gear sent and then put it on e-bay and make enough to quit my day job.... Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 15:59:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA25900; Sat, 15 May 1999 15:59:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:59:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373DCD20.2916@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:38:08 -0500 From: Steve Dee Reply-To: stevedee@prodigy.net Organization: Prodigy Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: What's Left? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dIufy.0.yU5.QqSFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just emailed an online music store about Echoplex pricing. He said it is not being made for awhile (6 months+?). Is this true? So let me get this straight! No more Jamman, no more Echoplex Digital Pro. Does that mean that the Boomerang might be the only affordable looping machine left to purchase brand new? If so, what's a decent price for a new or used Boomerang? I'm ready to start looping! Thanks. -- Steve http://pages.prodigy.net/stevedee From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 19:51:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA26056; Sat, 15 May 1999 19:51:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:51:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373E026C.2C871E91@stic.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:25:32 -0500 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: PC vs. MAC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GN4iV1.0.gE5.a3WFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just wanted to thank everybody for their input!!!!! James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 21:20:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA02994; Sat, 15 May 1999 21:20:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:20:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:48:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199905160048.UAA32079@rosy.yourwebhost.com> From: "eGroups.com Manager" Subject: Problem unsubscribing from epigram@egroups.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"xms3g2.0.Rr7.pNXFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com We're sorry, but we haven't been able to unsubscribe you from the epigram e-mail group as requested. 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To unsubscribe, we ask you to send a message to epigram-unsubscribe-user=host.dom@egroups.com replacing "user=host.dom@egroups.com" with the address information in the Return-Path header of the message you received. After that, please reply to a confirmation message we will send, and you should receive back a message that you're removed from the group. If this still doesn't work, please forward a group message you've received together with a note about what you're trying to achieve to the group moderator: epigram-owner@egroups.com We're very sorry for this inconvenience. The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.egroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 21:24:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA03510; Sat, 15 May 1999 21:24:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:24:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373DD0CA.6E45577F@texas.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:53:50 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: loopers, lemmings, and other garden pests. References: <2.2.32.19990515005232.00d628c8@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uPoO01.0.Pw7.rQXFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com wasn't me. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 15 23:05:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA15517; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:05:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:05:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <009401be9f42$dd469180$a4acf5d0@oemcomputer> From: "Wayne & Melva Perry" To: Subject: Oberheim Echo Plex, In search of... Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:21:51 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01BE9F96.AD99C840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"WGFVf2.0._a2.IpYFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BE9F96.AD99C840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where are these available for purchase? I've only found one place on = the 'net. Wayne ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BE9F96.AD99C840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where are these available for purchase?  I've = only found=20 one place on the 'net.
 
Wayne
------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BE9F96.AD99C840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 09:29:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA06951; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:29:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:29:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:00:30 -0300 Subject: Re: Oberheim Echo Plex, In search of... From: "Sebastian Woscoboinik" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3009693630_54541_MIME_Part" Message-ID: <77271B5C15B1.AAA6FC5@un1.satlink.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"QVmJu3.0.6A1.K4iFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3009693630_54541_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit http://www.tbred-music.com/network/ ---------- From: "Wayne & Melva Perry" To: Subject: Oberheim Echo Plex, In search of... Date: Sat, May 15, 1999, 11:21 PM Where are these available for purchase? I've only found one place on the 'net. Wayne --MS_Mac_OE_3009693630_54541_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Oberheim Echo Plex, In search of... http://www.tbred-music.com/network/

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From: "Wayne & Melva Perry" <mrper@netpci.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
Subject: Oberheim Echo Plex, In search of...
Date: Sat, May 15, 1999, 11:21 PM


Where are these available for purchase?  I'= ve only found one place on the 'net.
 
Wayne

--MS_Mac_OE_3009693630_54541_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 10:56:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA14171; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:56:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:56:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <821980d4.24703201@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:36:49 EDT Subject: Re: Homewreckers Testimonial To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"nheqg1.0.dx2.iWjFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ... I tried Buck's program and I gotta tell ya, it worked for me! Never have I felt such a release from anxiety and tension, and the sense of well-being is overwhelming... and, that little "problem" I was experiencing... well... um... er... let's just say it cleared that up as well! I think I'll send him some more of my gear today! Buck, let us know when you do the info-mercial. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 12:16:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA20879; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:16:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:16:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000d01be9fb5$9fad8a40$2e5bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <821980d4.24703201@aol.com> Subject: Re: Homewreckers Testimonial Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:59:14 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"W76fP1.0.vg4.IhkFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I can send my girlfriend to Buck? Julio. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Homewreckers Testimonial > ... I tried Buck's program and I gotta tell ya, it worked for me! > Never have I felt such a release from anxiety and tension, and the sense of > well-being is overwhelming... > and, that little "problem" I was experiencing... well... um... er... > let's just say it cleared that up as well! > I think I'll send him some more of my gear today! > > Buck, let us know when you do the info-mercial. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 12:21:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA21694; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:21:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:21:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990516160133.17985.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [206.216.80.76] From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Homewreckers Testimonial Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:01:32 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"0G0YK2.0.7p4._lkFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com SEE? An unsolicited testimonial to my remarkable system. Thank you "Rob" for your words. You could be just like him! Well, perhaps without the predilection for Russian literature, but you could be like him! Don't wait! ACT NOW! Etc. Kisses, Buck >From: RA336@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Homewreckers Testimonial >Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 10:36:49 EDT > >.... I tried Buck's program and I gotta tell ya, it worked for me! >Never have I felt such a release from anxiety and tension, and the sense of >well-being is overwhelming... >and, that little "problem" I was experiencing... well... um... er... >let's just say it cleared that up as well! >I think I'll send him some more of my gear today! > >Buck, let us know when you do the info-mercial. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 12:32:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA24053; Sun, 16 May 1999 12:32:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 12:32:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990516160938.19885.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.90.110] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Cool Jaco loop stuff Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:09:38 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"9GcJG1.0.sz4.atkFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I purchased a disc recently, "Live in Italy & Honestly" on the Jazzpoint label, of Jaco Pastorius playing live, solo loop stuff in Italy recorded in March of '86. It's a double CD set with Disc 1 being a trio date with Jaco, rock-star guitarist Bireli LeGrene, and a drummer whose name escapes me now, and Disc 2 being the solo Jaco loop performances made with his old analog delay. There's some real cool sounds on the disc...highly recemended for the fellow jaco-philes. Has anyone heard the "Jungle Funk" disc with Doug Wimbish and Will Calhoun? ---//////-------///-----///------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher Digital "GIGPIX" : http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////-------------//----------///////-- _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 16:23:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA17781; Sun, 16 May 1999 16:23:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:23:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003a01be9fd6$fb6a0680$8cd1f8cc@newmicronpc> From: "Steve Delgado" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <19990516160938.19885.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Cool Jaco loop stuff Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:02:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"109-K1.0.nr3.bFoFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Joshua, >It's a double CD set with Disc 1 being a trio date with Jaco, > rock-star guitarist Bireli LeGrene, Rock-star?? Bireli Le Grene??! Have you heard him on Larry Coryell's "Spaces Revisited" CD? Not exactly Eddie Van Halen fare, if you ask me... BTW, if you haven't heard that disc, and being a Jaco fan, you would certainly dig the bass player on that session, a guy named Richard Bona. He's from Cameroon, of all places. He's also on the Zawinul "World Tour" CD. He solos on both discs, but not nearly enough! What a monster! At any rate, the Jaco disc sounds great; thanks for telling us about it. I'm always looking for music for my radio show, and it sounds like this would be a good one to have. I had the pleasure of seeing Jaco with Pat Metheny and a well-known drummer whose name escapes me right now many years ago in a tiny little club in Boston called The Jazz Basement (I saw Miles there too!). Jaco stole the show, as he did every time I saw him with Weather Report. > Has anyone heard the "Jungle Funk" disc with Doug Wimbish and Will Calhoun? Yes; as a matter of fact, I first heard about them on this very list. GREAT musicians, but a little too "pop" for me. I would also say they could use a good guitarist, but perhaps I'm prejudiced, being one myself. Steve Delgado From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 16 18:26:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA30075; Sun, 16 May 1999 18:26:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:26:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373F412A.97D3FB4D@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:05:35 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Cool Jaco loop stuff References: <19990516160938.19885.qmail@hotmail.com> <003a01be9fd6$fb6a0680$8cd1f8cc@newmicronpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nrlLA3.0.sq6.O4qFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com joshua wrote: ....It's a double CD set with Disc 1 being a trio date with Jaco, rock-star guitarist Bireli LeGrene, and a drummer whose name escapes me now, and Disc 2 being the solo Jaco loop performances... then Steve wrote: > ...I had the pleasure of seeing Jaco with Pat > Metheny and a well-known drummer whose name escapes me right now... i do believe drummers don't get 'nuff respect 'round here... :) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 03:18:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA18519; Mon, 17 May 1999 03:18:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 03:18:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990517064914.006d445c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:49:14 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leo Cavallo Subject: Re: Cool Jaco loop stuff Resent-Message-ID: <"Iz_er2.0.Av3.CoxFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi At 09.09 16/05/99 PDT, you wrote: >I purchased a disc recently, "Live in Italy & Honestly" on the Jazzpoint >label, of Jaco Pastorius playing live, solo loop stuff in Italy recorded in >March of '86. It's a double CD set with Disc 1 being a trio date with Jaco, >rock-star guitarist Bireli LeGrene, and a drummer whose name escapes me now, >and Disc 2 being the solo Jaco loop performances made with his old analog >delay. There's some real cool sounds on the disc...highly recemended for the >fellow jaco-philes. > >Has anyone heard the "Jungle Funk" disc with Doug Wimbish and Will Calhoun? I own both the records. Interesting studio stuff... but really brilliant on stage. ciao leo > >---//////-------///-----///------/////---///////--- >Joshua D. Pickenpaugh >Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. >Bassist, Composer, Teacher >Digital "GIGPIX" : http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic >-///------///////-------------//----------///////-- > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 06:36:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA32291; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:36:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 06:36:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <5bbc32f9.247147a4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 06:21:24 EDT Subject: east coast tape To: Nemoguitt@aol.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"8WJKg2.0.tf7.kt-Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it is finally out. sent it via "quickie mail" today to michael klobuchar in pittsburg. shoud get it tomorrow i believe. sorry for the hold up. =-0 PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 09:30:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA18056; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:30:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:30:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905171319.JAB09865@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Torn /Calhoun show postponed!!! tues 18th KF, NYC Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:16:53 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"pwkFn3.0.A-3.GU1Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com BTW - i called the knit - the DAVID TORN/WILL CALHOUN gig - Spalltercell- is postponed !! it was to be at the knit tomorrow night - TUES - 18th...however - Elliott Sharp wil still bethere - and some band SPACEHEADS - a duo with lotsa looping - are supposed to be greeeeaaaaaat! see ya!?? i'll be there. andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 09:30:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA18093; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:30:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:30:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905171317.JAA08916@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Cool Jaco loop stuff Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:14:51 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fvc4k3.0.6v3.6S1Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jaco - loops sounds great... he also does some great looping in the infamous Joni Mitchell concert film 'shadows and llight'= band also features Pat Metheny,Lyle Mays,Don ALias,Mike Brecker,,, killer!!! those bums at elektra have just re-released the CD as a double - so as to restore the ONE SONG they pulled off to make it a SINGLE!! SCREW them!!!! at least NOW - fill up the extra - wasted space!!!! Give us the JACO-LOOPS and a couple extra songs!!! Charlatans!! sigh... in other news - i've heard the jungle funk (wimbush/calhoun/vinx) - pretty good- though the scale tips more towards songcraft/singing/r&b than Loopcraft - and empahasis on weirdosity or anything. it's a pretty tame CD - every track, pretty much, could be on the radio on a pop,rock or r n b station ...... but 3-4 real standout trax with killer playing esp by doug and will. andre' http://www.monmouth.com/~andre Band Info, Articles, Health Links JFK's LSD UFO and HIDDEN AGENDA PROJECT/OBJECT http://projectobject.com [frank zappa trib. i play guitar in] from an email.... I still think it's funny that Rock Music is descended from a parody of slave culture that white people did 100 years ago. Once I saw Carlene Carter at the Bottom Line. She came out on stage and greeted the audience with "My name is Carlene Carter and I'm here to put the "cunt" back into Country Music!" Dad Johnny Cash was sitting at one of the tables nearby and I saw him bury his face in his hands. ---------- > From: kameleyon > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Cool Jaco loop stuff > Date: Sunday, May 16, 1999 12:09 PM > > I purchased a disc recently, "Live in Italy & Honestly" on the Jazzpoint > label, of Jaco Pastorius playing live, solo loop stuff in Italy recorded in > March of '86. It's a double CD set with Disc 1 being a trio date with Jaco, > rock-star guitarist Bireli LeGrene, and a drummer whose name escapes me now, > and Disc 2 being the solo Jaco loop performances made with his old analog > delay. There's some real cool sounds on the disc...highly recemended for the > fellow jaco-philes. > > Has anyone heard the "Jungle Funk" disc with Doug Wimbish and Will Calhoun? > > ---//////-------///-----///------/////---///////--- > Joshua D. Pickenpaugh > Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. > Bassist, Composer, Teacher > Digital "GIGPIX" : http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic > -///------///////-------------//----------///////-- > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 09:33:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA18839; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:33:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:33:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990517132119.85107.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [134.174.151.250] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Bob Moses Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 06:21:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"ObLmI3.0.4_3.mU1Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "Bright Sized Life" features; Pat, Jaco and of course ....Bob Moses (the drummer who's name alludes). I recently saw him appearing with the Joel Harrison Quartet. (Pardon the loopy digression)Harrison seems to be exploring looping possiblities via guitar with a Boomerang. While it was nice to see, he hadn't really mastered his device yet but it did lend some nice textures to his free jazz stew. But I've gotten off the point, I was talking about Bob Moses. He's a great player and an interesting and dynamic improviser with a palette of interesting sounds. He's developed a wonderfully unconventional style of drumming (highly sampleable). Moses is currently working on a duo project with John Medeski. I don't know if they're recording but they're playing with Charlie Hunter and Adam Cruz on a double duo bill at the Somerville Theatre in Somerville, MA May 22nd. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 10:46:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA31644; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:46:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:46:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <024501bea070$2fb0a680$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: What's Left? Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:18:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"eZVkv.0.km6.oR2Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As further point of concern, I just spoke with Manny's Music in NYC. The person I spoke with told me that the EDP had been discontinued. I think some PR is needed to get the word out that the EDP is alive. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: Steve Dee To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 2:59 PM Subject: What's Left? >I just emailed an online music store about Echoplex pricing. He said it >is not being made for awhile (6 months+?). Is this true? So let me get >this straight! No more Jamman, no more Echoplex Digital Pro. Does that >mean that the Boomerang might be the only affordable looping machine >left to purchase brand new? If so, what's a decent price for a new or >used Boomerang? I'm ready to start looping! Thanks. >-- >Steve >http://pages.prodigy.net/stevedee > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 10:53:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA00601; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:53:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:53:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003a01be9fd6$fb6a0680$8cd1f8cc@newmicronpc> References: <19990516160938.19885.qmail@hotmail.com> <003a01be9fd6$fb6a0680$8cd1f8cc@newmicronpc> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:42:14 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Cool Jaco loop stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"vVkvE1.0.xJ7.7d2Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I had the pleasure of seeing Jaco with Pat >Metheny and a well-known drummer whose name escapes me right now many years >ago in a tiny little club in Boston called The Jazz Basement (I saw Miles >there too!). Jaco stole the show, as he did every time I saw him with >Weather Report. Would that have been Bob Moses? Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 11:09:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA03702; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:09:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:09:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BEA052.BB4E8400@tor-max20.075088.aracnet.net> From: Jon Grant To: "Loopers-Delight (E-mail)" Subject: Digital Audio Reference Sites Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:45:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"CpTK43.0.B-7.6q2Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ir's time (once again) for me to upgrade my computer setup, and I'm = just wondering if anyone has found good reference sites or lists on the = web. I'd like a fair amount of reliable technical information about = hardware and software. Cheers, Jon Grant From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 11:29:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA07281; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:29:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:29:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990517151210.22096.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: Bob Moses To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"xWjZN.0.E_.x63Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Moses is a great musician and a very odd fellow. I was a member of his student band at the New England Conservatory in 1991. We played the premeir of his piece "Return of the Goddess" at Jordan Hall. Rehearsals were intense as there were no written parts and he would sing your part to you until you got it just right. He was hell on guitar players but I learned quite a bit from him. He also had some interesting stories about Jaco. Dan --- Sean Witters wrote: > "Bright Sized Life" features; Pat, Jaco and of > course ....Bob Moses (the > drummer who's name alludes). I recently saw him > appearing with the Joel > Harrison Quartet. (Pardon the loopy > digression)Harrison seems to be > exploring looping possiblities via guitar with a > Boomerang. While it was > nice to see, he hadn't really mastered his device > yet but it did lend some > nice textures to his free jazz stew. > But I've gotten off the point, I was talking about > Bob Moses. He's a great > player and an interesting and dynamic improviser > with a palette of > interesting sounds. He's developed a wonderfully > unconventional style of > drumming (highly sampleable). Moses is currently > working on a duo project > with John Medeski. I don't know if they're > recording but they're playing > with Charlie Hunter and Adam Cruz on a double duo > bill at the Somerville > Theatre in Somerville, MA May 22nd. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 11:53:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA11956; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:53:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:53:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000401bea07a$3bf02240$362310ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: loop the loop the lupe the lay! Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:17:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LfyT41.0.ff1.zK3Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Two solutions for popping new info into loops: The Digitech RP7 and Bob Sellon's modified Lexicon PCM42. Both have foot controls which vary the amount of regeneration from one to infinite. By rocking the pedal back to the "one" spot, inserting whatever you wish, and rocking back to whatever (multiple delays or infinite loop), the next time around the insert will appear "alone", surrounded by whatever you've built up at that point. I've been meaning to sing the praises of the Digitech multi-effects pedals for a while. Their delay features are very robust, offering (on the RP7) dual parallel delays of up to 3.5 seconds, definitely enough to get some hip ambient stuff going. If I find the time, I will write more for the Website's "Tools" page on the Digitech stuff. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 12:35:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA19753; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:35:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:35:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990517120829.007a64f0@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:08:29 -0400 To: From: murkie Subject: Re: Torn /Calhoun show postponed!!! tues 18th KF, NYC In-Reply-To: <199905171319.JAB09865@shell.monmouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"IrB6e3.0.tc3.Ay3Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09:16 AM 5/17/99 -0400, andre wrote: >BTW - > >i called the knit - the DAVID TORN/WILL CALHOUN gig - Spalltercell- is >postponed !! it was to be at the knit tomorrow night - TUES - >18th...however - Elliott Sharp wil still bethere - and some band >SPACEHEADS - a duo with lotsa looping - are supposed to be greeeeaaaaaat! > >see ya!?? i'll be there. > >andre' hmmm... i just got off the phone with the KF and they say it's on. i'd recomend calling the Factory tomorrow to find out fer sure, though. any other LD folks planning on going besides me & andre? secret handshake time? later. m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 13:10:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA25996; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:10:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:10:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990517165817.62184.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [204.74.108.76] From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Further Testamonial Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:58:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"gOhzO2.0.1v5.Ph4Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Valued Generic Corporation, About a year ago I was down on my luck. I lived paycheck to paycheck, never knowing when I would get out of debt. Never knowing IF, for that matter. Then I stumbled into Homewreckers Needed! The plan seemed simple enough: Send Buck gear, get his appreciation. I really had nothing to lose. So I figured ... why not? So I tried this out. Some of the stuff I sent him was actual gear, e.g. computers, VCRs, printers; but mostly I sent him various services. These jockables ranged from designing his magazine, to rewriting "Send Buck Gear" proposals he was sending out to the great corporations of America. I was sending him so many jockables that I finally signed up for a special program that, with each jockable I sent him, would let me earn miles toward a free trip to Pasadena. This was the "Fact-Checkin'-Cuz" program. And ever since, my life has been enriched. I'm still in debt, still living paycheck to paycheck, down a few computers, and still waiting for him to pay his share of the "Girls Gone Wild" video we ordered, but at least now I can spend my lunch hours and evenings making sure Buck can receive more gear. Thank you, Buck! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 13:57:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA02338; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:57:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:57:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:23:39 -0700 Subject: Powerbooking and loopsters From: "Ryan Blum" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990517172502.8140624BE4@acme.sb.west.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"Z5GGG.0.UA7.S75Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey everyone-- I've been on the list for a long time, lurking and being distracted by various school, etc. commitments, and I thought I'd ask y'alls opinion on how to get my new Powerbook G3 (shipping at the end of May) decked out with digital audio, MIDI sequencing (the standard stuff) and as much cool weird looping stuff as has been discovered for the MacOS (no one's done much audio with Linux, right?). Right now, I've been told of Cubase VST and Studiovision, and that's where my knowledge stops. Ultimately, I'd love to be able to use the computer for recording stuff that I use my DAT for now, arranging and printing parts for jazz band, and experimenting with Drumnbass and other eletronic noises. If this is too un-loopy, maybe we should take it to private email. Thanks! Ryan Blum From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 14:09:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA04634; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:09:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:09:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <024501bea070$2fb0a680$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:44:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: What's Left? Resent-Message-ID: <"x1PyT3.0.am7.sK5Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's not discontinued, they're just changing where and how they produce it. Doesn't appear to be going as fast as one might hope, but they are still going. kim >As further point of concern, I just spoke with Manny's Music in NYC. The >person I spoke with told me that the EDP had been discontinued. I think >some PR is needed to get the word out that the EDP is alive. > >Dennis Leas >----------------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve Dee >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 2:59 PM >Subject: What's Left? > > >>I just emailed an online music store about Echoplex pricing. He said it >>is not being made for awhile (6 months+?). Is this true? So let me get >>this straight! No more Jamman, no more Echoplex Digital Pro. Does that >>mean that the Boomerang might be the only affordable looping machine >>left to purchase brand new? If so, what's a decent price for a new or >>used Boomerang? I'm ready to start looping! Thanks. >>-- >>Steve >>http://pages.prodigy.net/stevedee >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 14:13:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA05438; Mon, 17 May 1999 14:13:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:13:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374053CF.78F6@voicenet.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:37:19 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: FS: Roland G707 guitar - $350 References: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32BFFD@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> <37372327.6470@voicenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Uinkn.0.-w7.wN5Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well in my eternal quest for a Roland G33/G88 bass I am putting my G707 guitar up for sale. This is the silver guitar with the wildass stabilizer bar running accross the top. I have pics I can send if anyone wants to see the model. PLease note this is the guitar w/case ONLY. Not the floor unit or cable. Just a damn cool guitar. The guitar is in excellent condition cosmetically and functionally. I have run a GR700 and GR300 floor unit from this and the electronics are also in top shape. I have decided to keep my G303 guitar for all my roland synth needs so this unit is forsale or trade for a G33/G88 bass. I'd also consider a Casio PG380 guitar. The guitar comes with the whammy bar and original Hardshell case which is a big deal only because it's custom built to fit this sucker (hard to find a case that will hold it in place right). I just had the strings changed and set up so it plays great as a guitar in it's own right. If you've ever wanted to have a spaceage designed guitar that sounds great too this is the one to get. I'm asking $350 obo plus shipping which I'm told it's certainly worth. last week I had some idiot try and sell me a G77 bass (no floor unit or cable) for $650 (that'll teach me to put an ad in Vintage Guitar Mag) so I don't want to give this away but note the OBO as pickup in Phila would be great as well. References out the wazoo. Any questions email me direct. Thanks for reading. D_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 15:29:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA19444; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:29:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:29:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901bea08f$fbd8a7c0$571bbfa8@default> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: Powerbooking and loopsters Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:06:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"F9scS.0.0w2.vF6Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ryan, Everything you could probably need is at www.opcode.com they have all kinds of stuff for those with Macs. I now wish i had one...that way i could mess around with LiSa from STEIM and MAX from Opcode. Two amazing programs. Jeffrey Collins A Strange View of Music http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1429/STRANGETONES.html -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Blum To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 1:57 PM Subject: Powerbooking and loopsters >Hey everyone-- > >I've been on the list for a long time, lurking and being distracted by >various school, etc. commitments, and I thought I'd ask y'alls opinion on >how to get my new Powerbook G3 (shipping at the end of May) decked out with >digital audio, MIDI sequencing (the standard stuff) and as much cool weird >looping stuff as has been discovered for the MacOS (no one's done much audio >with Linux, right?). Right now, I've been told of Cubase VST and >Studiovision, and that's where my knowledge stops. Ultimately, I'd love to >be able to use the computer for recording stuff that I use my DAT for now, >arranging and printing parts for jazz band, and experimenting with Drumnbass >and other eletronic noises. > >If this is too un-loopy, maybe we should take it to private email. >Thanks! >Ryan Blum > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 16:03:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA26139; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:03:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:03:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005f01bea09b$6f432900$b9d1f8cc@newmicronpc> From: "Steve Delgado" To: References: <19990516160938.19885.qmail@hotmail.com><003a01be9fd6$fb6a0680$8cd1f8cc@newmicronpc> Subject: Re: Cool Jaco loop stuff Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:28:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"FUl753.0.TZ4.Xr6Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I would say it almost certainly was. Didn't Moses play regularly with Jaco and Pat back then (we're talking '74 or '75)? If so, t'was he. Thanks for almost jogging my memory! Steve Delgado > > I had the pleasure of seeing Jaco with Pat > >Metheny and a well-known drummer whose name escapes me right now > > Would that have been Bob Moses? > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 16:15:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA28461; Mon, 17 May 1999 16:15:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:15:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: charles.boswell@amd.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 14:58:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"2Fpof2.0.596.zJ7Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com All, I used a very early "digital" delay from Dod/Digitech. I am almost sure that this unit had the name DOD on it. I lost the unit in move and would like to replace it. I also believe that it was manufactured in the early eighties(83,84). I purchased it in 1984. It was able to give chorus, flange, slapback, and delay. The sound was incredible( probable anlalog - CCD devices). It was a 19-inch rack unit. It had three push-in knobs and a couple of pots. I think it was one the RDS or PDS series. Does anyone out there know where I could purchase another one of these units? > Charles R. Boswell Jr > AMD - Advanced Development Labs > 5204 East Ben White Blvd. > Mail Stop 621 > Austin, Texas 78741 > 512-602-2418 > 512-602-6582(FAX) > 1-800-538-8450-52418 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 17:51:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA14214; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:51:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:51:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3740871F.4BE61CAC@magelang.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:16:15 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Powerbooking and loopsters References: <19990517172502.8140624BE4@acme.sb.west.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"25VzG.0.sq1.nQ8Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You might want to look at Digital Performer (www.motu.com). The next version (2.6) will offer an interesting loop audio recording feature. It's also makes an excellent DAW on its own. Jim Ryan Blum wrote: > > Hey everyone-- > > I've been on the list for a long time, lurking and being distracted by > various school, etc. commitments, and I thought I'd ask y'alls opinion on > how to get my new Powerbook G3 (shipping at the end of May) decked out with > digital audio, MIDI sequencing (the standard stuff) and as much cool weird > looping stuff as has been discovered for the MacOS (no one's done much audio > with Linux, right?). Right now, I've been told of Cubase VST and > Studiovision, and that's where my knowledge stops. Ultimately, I'd love to > be able to use the computer for recording stuff that I use my DAT for now, > arranging and printing parts for jazz band, and experimenting with Drumnbass > and other eletronic noises. > > If this is too un-loopy, maybe we should take it to private email. > Thanks! > Ryan Blum From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 18:00:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA15888; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:00:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:00:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003e01bea0ac$65220520$1a5bdfc8@doutor> From: "Julio Moreno" To: References: <19990517165817.62184.qmail@hotmail.com> Subject: Buck crap. Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:28:46 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"0IK9N1.0.VC2.PZ8Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey!!! ''Girls Gone Wild'' sounds interesting... Julio. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Buck To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 1:58 PM Subject: Further Testamonial > Dear Valued Generic Corporation, > > About a year ago I was down on my luck. I lived paycheck to paycheck, never > knowing when I would get out of debt. Never knowing IF, for that matter. > Then I stumbled into Homewreckers Needed! The plan seemed simple enough: > Send Buck gear, get his appreciation. > > I really had nothing to lose. So I figured ... why not? > > So I tried this out. Some of the stuff I sent him was actual gear, e.g. > computers, VCRs, printers; but mostly I sent him various services. These > jockables ranged from designing his magazine, to rewriting "Send Buck Gear" > proposals he was sending out to the great corporations of America. I was > sending him so many jockables that I finally signed up for a special program > that, with each jockable I sent him, would let me earn miles toward a free > trip to Pasadena. This was the "Fact-Checkin'-Cuz" program. > > And ever since, my life has been enriched. I'm still in debt, still living > paycheck to paycheck, down a few computers, and still waiting for him to pay > his share of the "Girls Gone Wild" video we ordered, but at least now I can > spend my lunch hours and evenings making sure Buck can receive more gear. > > Thank you, Buck! > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 17 18:05:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA17138; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:05:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:05:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:14:03 EDT Subject: Vortex dual loop patch To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <"frdNU3.0.nr1.6R8Gt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK here it is .......but you have to submit a patch to my site (maybe) Morph between 2 versions of 11 Shimmer A mix 32 32 output 64 64 mod fx lvl 64 64 echo fx lvl 64 64 morph AB 45 45 envelope 1 1 echo% 1 1 1 echo% 2 1 1 feedback 1 pedal 64 feedback 2 64 pedal then set all rates depths & resonances to 1 ............now you might want to know how it works, .....................................more fun to just try it though, ......all right then you now have 2 seperate (up to)1second loops to play with , one on the left and one on the right (this sounds better in stereo) , let's call them loopA and loopB you can only alter one loop at a time the A/B switch switches between them the pedal can be used to insert/replace/erase/add material, full down is infinite loop with none of the input added full up is no loop feedback but add input to loop, so you have to pull back on the ped to add new stuff then push down to keep it, or pull back half way to add stuff without totally erasing the old. So you can start out with one loop , loop A and get it just how you like it, then hit the A/B switch and get to work on loop B, while loop A stays the same hitting the A/B again lets you go back to modifying loopA, while loop B stays the same. If you don't have a pedal set the pedalled parameters to about 32,and just play with the A/B it's still quite entertaining. Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database (newish section on undocumented features) http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 09:34:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA29771; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:34:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:34:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905181321.JAA06026@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Torn /Calhoun show postponed!!! tues 18th KF, NYC Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:18:53 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wTEUL1.0.ol6.qbMGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey al the show is DEF'NITly off..... as of monday 1pm or so - according to the operator at the knit - 212-219-3006...POSTPONED till another date. again - spaceheads/elliott sharp are on!! - c'monn in or listen on theweb... u know ...www.knittingfactory.com peace and loops. andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 10:04:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA02636; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:04:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:04:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37417E2F.67EFC5B5@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:50:27 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I'm back in the loop, and bound for SF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"B2i5r2.0.Gx7.g_MGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all, A while ago (how the time blurs!) I had to leave the list due to a heavy college work load involving many list-serves. Anyway, I graduated, and now I join the ranks of the unemployed. Woooooo hoooooo! I said, Wooo hooo. So the deal-e-o is I've been excepted to Cal State, Hayward, into their Multimedia program. I seem to remember that San Francisco has a really good looping community, and I'm psyched to join it. I've been stuck in Syracuse, NY for the last 3 years, and let me tell you, it's pretty grim here, in almost all ways. Hey Kim, thanks for still being here. This is such a great resource. You rock. One thing I did notice is that the looper's page is so silent. I've been starting to use Macromedia's Flash to do web animation and sound. The files are tiny and seem to work really well. ( check out gabocorp.com ) I've been looking for a project to go for as a learning experience, and I may attempt a revamp of the looper logo, with loop included. Use it if you like it, I'm doing it for fun. Anyway, it's great to be back. See you in the future! Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 12:01:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA24865; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:01:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:01:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37418824.34A9@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:32:52 -0400 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"J9YMA2.0.qo4.-YOGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I used a very early "digital" delay from Dod/Digitech. I am almost sure > that this unit had the name DOD on it. I lost the unit in move and would > like to replace it. I also believe that it was manufactured in the early > eighties(83,84). I purchased it in 1984. It was able to give chorus, > flange, slapback, and delay. The sound was incredible( probable anlalog - > CCD devices). It was a 19-inch rack unit. It had three push-in knobs and a > couple of pots. > I think it was one the RDS or PDS series. Does anyone out there know where I > could purchase another one of these units? DOD (later Digitech0 made quite a few rack mount delay systems. The early DOD ones were very simple with a few knobs for mixing dry/wet signal, delay length and time, an LFO of sorts, and push buttons to set preset delay time ranges (this is where you got the double, flange, delay options). These then evolved into the "Time Machine" RDS systems by digitech. Digitech made at least three different series of time machines all with the RDS line and the actualdelay times in the title. ie: RDS960 was 960 millisenconds, RDS3.6 was 3.6 seconds, RDS8000 was 8 seconds long All of these had the LFO, mix contorls and preset buttons but the later versions also added a hold feature, trigger button, and quieter overall performance. As far as i know all the models were digital delays; the digitech RDS certainly was. These show up all the time everywhere. If you can't find one locally in a music store that sells used gear you can always find anumber of them forsale on the web in newsgroups or at very least in stock at Daddy's junky music http://www.ugbm.com/group.shtml look under rack effects. They should range from $100-200 depending on the model and condition. I adore my RDS 3.6. good luck! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 12:45:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA01095; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:45:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:45:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: charles.boswell@amd.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:17:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"5wMtA.0.jp6.MAPGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Legion, Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. I loved my early DOD unit and anticipate getting even better results with the RDS line. Thanks again. -charlie > Charles R. Boswell Jr > AMD - Advanced Development Labs > 5204 East Ben White Blvd. > Mail Stop 621 > Austin, Texas 78741 > 512-602-2418 > 512-602-6582(FAX) > 1-800-538-8450-52418 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: legion [SMTP:legion@voicenet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 10:33 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS > > > I used a very early "digital" delay from Dod/Digitech. I am almost sure > > that this unit had the name DOD on it. I lost the unit in move and > would > > like to replace it. I also believe that it was manufactured in the > early > > eighties(83,84). I purchased it in 1984. It was able to give chorus, > > flange, slapback, and delay. The sound was incredible( probable anlalog > - > > CCD devices). It was a 19-inch rack unit. It had three push-in knobs > and a > > couple of pots. > > I think it was one the RDS or PDS series. Does anyone out there know > where I > > could purchase another one of these units? > > DOD (later Digitech0 made quite a few rack mount delay systems. The > early DOD ones were very simple with a few knobs for mixing dry/wet > signal, delay length and time, an LFO of sorts, and push buttons to set > preset delay time ranges (this is where you got the double, flange, > delay options). These then evolved into the "Time Machine" RDS systems > by digitech. > > Digitech made at least three different series of time machines all with > the RDS line and the actualdelay times in the title. > > ie: RDS960 was 960 millisenconds, RDS3.6 was 3.6 seconds, RDS8000 was 8 > seconds long > > All of these had the LFO, mix contorls and preset buttons but the later > versions also added a hold feature, trigger button, and quieter overall > performance. As far as i know all the models were digital delays; the > digitech RDS certainly was. > > These show up all the time everywhere. If you can't find one locally in > a music store that sells used gear you can always find anumber of them > forsale on the web in newsgroups or at very least in stock at Daddy's > junky music > http://www.ugbm.com/group.shtml > > look under rack effects. > > They should range from $100-200 depending on the model and condition. I > adore my RDS 3.6. > good luck! > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 12:57:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA03542; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:57:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:57:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990518113521.008ab210@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:35:21 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS In-Reply-To: <37418824.34A9@voicenet.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"PexfU1.0.-x7.UWPGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:32 AM 5/18/99 -0400, you wrote: >> I used a very early "digital" delay from Dod/Digitech. I lost the unit in >>move and would like to replace it. It was a 19-inch rack unit. =20 >> I think it was one the RDS or PDS series. Does anyone out there know where I >> could purchase another one of these units? If you find the 8-second Digitech RDS 8000, be careful: mine drifts sharp in the infinite loop mode until it's warmed up for 2-3 hours. I've heard similar horror stories from other loopers about Digitech looping devices. I'm willing to sacrifice the additional 2 seconds to have the pitch reliability and cleaner sound of the 6-second Zoom 2100 ($140.00 new). Hasta la revoluci=F3n, Michael. =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464=20 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D--=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=3D From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 13:22:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA08256; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:22:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:22:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3741A09B.EC53710F@magelang.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:17:15 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: details on POLAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nIXj72.0.7i1.51QGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The new loop recording feature of Digital Performer: http://www.motu.com/english/software/dp/dp26/index.html Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 14:52:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA25759; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:52:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:52:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37417E2F.67EFC5B5@mailbox.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:32:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: I'm back in the loop, and bound for SF Resent-Message-ID: <"B6RW51.0.T46.zMRGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 7:50 AM -0700 5/18/99, Mark Sottilaro wrote: > >Hey Kim, thanks for still being here. This is such a great resource. >You rock. One thing I did notice is that the looper's page is so >silent. I've been starting to use Macromedia's Flash to do web >animation and sound. The files are tiny and seem to work really well. >( check out gabocorp.com ) I've been looking for a project to go for as >a learning experience, and I may attempt a revamp of the looper logo, >with loop included. Use it if you like it, I'm doing it for fun. Hi Mark, that would be great! It would be fun if we could get different people from the list to do loops and have it randomly choose one each time the page is opened. Or maybe "feature" a different loop each day. looking forward to seeing what you do! and the rest of you, don't forget, I'm always looking for new website contributions! Thanks to everybody who has contributed stuff over the years. I know I'm slow to integrate things into the site sometimes, but it all gets there eventually. Keep it coming! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 15:19:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA30693; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:19:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:19:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32C011@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> From: "Wordsman, Lee" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:20:39 -0400 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"vHAxJ3.0.Bv6.ReRGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com While were on this topic, I want to ask a question that I may have posed once before but never gotten an answer to. I use a Roland FS-1 footswitch on my RDS 4.0 open and close a loop for overdubbing. It takes 1.5 presses on the switch to get the RDS to either open or close the loop. I expected that it would only require me to step on the switch once and I could either overdub or hold the loop indefinitely. Any solutions to this. > -----Original Message----- > From: legion [mailto:legion@voicenet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 11:33 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS > > > > I used a very early "digital" delay from Dod/Digitech. I > am almost sure > > that this unit had the name DOD on it. I lost the unit in > move and would > > like to replace it. I also believe that it was > manufactured in the early > > eighties(83,84). I purchased it in 1984. It was able to > give chorus, > > flange, slapback, and delay. The sound was incredible( > probable anlalog - > > CCD devices). It was a 19-inch rack unit. It had three > push-in knobs and a > > couple of pots. > > I think it was one the RDS or PDS series. Does anyone out > there know where I > > could purchase another one of these units? > > DOD (later Digitech0 made quite a few rack mount delay systems. The > early DOD ones were very simple with a few knobs for mixing dry/wet > signal, delay length and time, an LFO of sorts, and push > buttons to set > preset delay time ranges (this is where you got the double, flange, > delay options). These then evolved into the "Time Machine" RDS systems > by digitech. > > Digitech made at least three different series of time > machines all with > the RDS line and the actualdelay times in the title. > > ie: RDS960 was 960 millisenconds, RDS3.6 was 3.6 seconds, > RDS8000 was 8 > seconds long > > All of these had the LFO, mix contorls and preset buttons but > the later > versions also added a hold feature, trigger button, and > quieter overall > performance. As far as i know all the models were digital delays; the > digitech RDS certainly was. > > These show up all the time everywhere. If you can't find one > locally in > a music store that sells used gear you can always find anumber of them > forsale on the web in newsgroups or at very least in stock at Daddy's > junky music > http://www.ugbm.com/group.shtml > > look under rack effects. > > They should range from $100-200 depending on the model and > condition. I > adore my RDS 3.6. > good luck! > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion > "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we > started..." > > Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and > info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 16:49:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA16457; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:49:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:49:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD092D6BF@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:38:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"8cs5g.0.Ud.c7SGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I use a Roland FS-1 footswitch > on my RDS 4.0 open and close a loop for overdubbing. It takes 1.5 presses > on the switch to get the RDS to either open or close the loop. > ** that's the roland latching switch? i think (it's been a while) that i used the non-latching switches for my rds-8000s and that they only required 1 stomp. maybe that's your problem. stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 19:40:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA16702; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:40:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:40:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990518193247.007b4420@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:32:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: sound processing ideas In-Reply-To: <199905110706.DAA23927@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"WXJRr1.0.4t3.paVGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK, I'm stuck. I've got experimental musicians' block. I was able to make a decent amount of synth-type sounds out of flute to loop--using mostly reverb, echo, and various delay effects. I still have the song I used them for up on the web because I've been too unenergetic to update my page with the new one, which I should have uploaded half a month ago. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Here's the crux of the biscuit. Though my past experiment was successful, I could not develop enough sounds to continually use for a whole album (or half an album, which is what I have to fill). I did some attempts at vocoding, but all the software based vocoders are essentially pure crap. So that's out. And now I'm out of ideas. What ways are there to completely mangle a sound, to make them sound completely different (without ruining them to the point that the pitch or timing is ruined), by unfairly abusing fairly run of the mill effects? I throw this out to the list, all you people who make wacky sounds. What are your favorite experiments, not in sound sources to loop this time, but in modifying sound sources? -- Listen to Grendel (ambient/signal music) at http://listen.to/grendel Note, my return address may be munged. You make the call. Though if you send mail from a spam friendly ISP, such as Earthlink or cw.net, your mail may be blacklisted. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 20:14:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA22886; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:14:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:14:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990519001428.8597.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: sound processing ideas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"U8a-93.0.qK5.M4WGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Ck out the June Issue of Electronic Musician. It has recipes (including software recommendations) for 12 personal studios. One setup is devoted to creating sounds. Randy Jones --- "earthblind, starbound" wrote: > OK, I'm stuck. I've got experimental > musicians' block. > > I was able to make a decent amount of > synth-type sounds out of flute to > loop--using mostly reverb, echo, and various > delay effects. I still have > the song I used them for up on the web because > I've been too unenergetic > to update my page with the new one, which I > should have uploaded half > a month ago. Anyway, that's neither here nor > there. > > Here's the crux of the biscuit. Though my past > experiment was successful, > I could not develop enough sounds to > continually use for a whole album (or > half an album, which is what I have to fill). > I did some attempts at > vocoding, but all the software based vocoders > are essentially pure crap. > So that's out. > > And now I'm out of ideas. > > What ways are there to completely mangle a > sound, to make them sound > completely different (without ruining them to > the point that the pitch > or timing is ruined), by unfairly abusing > fairly run of the mill > effects? I throw this out to the list, all you > people who make wacky > sounds. What are your favorite experiments, > not in sound sources to > loop this time, but in modifying sound sources? > -- > Listen to Grendel (ambient/signal music) at > http://listen.to/grendel > Note, my return address may be munged. You > make the call. Though > if you send mail from a spam friendly ISP, > such as Earthlink or cw.net, > your mail may be blacklisted. > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 20:41:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA28123; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:41:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:41:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374206BE.7705029E@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:33:02 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: sound processing ideas References: <3.0.5.32.19990518193247.007b4420@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-mo2V2.0.Hb6.1UWGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I really like my Digitech IPS 33B Super Smart Shift, OK its old and not that smart but it does some wonderful mangling! And I know you have heard of the Lexicon Vortex., amazing. Anyway don't lose the faith. I have your stuff in regular rotation for inspiration. jd "earthblind, starbound" wrote: > OK, I'm stuck. I've got experimental musicians' block. > > I was able to make a decent amount of synth-type sounds out of flute to > loop--using mostly reverb, echo, and various delay effects. I still have > the song I used them for up on the web because I've been too unenergetic > to update my page with the new one, which I should have uploaded half > a month ago. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. > > Here's the crux of the biscuit. Though my past experiment was successful, > I could not develop enough sounds to continually use for a whole album (or > half an album, which is what I have to fill). I did some attempts at > vocoding, but all the software based vocoders are essentially pure crap. > So that's out. > > And now I'm out of ideas. > > What ways are there to completely mangle a sound, to make them sound > completely different (without ruining them to the point that the pitch > or timing is ruined), by unfairly abusing fairly run of the mill > effects? I throw this out to the list, all you people who make wacky > sounds. What are your favorite experiments, not in sound sources to > loop this time, but in modifying sound sources? > -- > Listen to Grendel (ambient/signal music) at http://listen.to/grendel > Note, my return address may be munged. You make the call. Though > if you send mail from a spam friendly ISP, such as Earthlink or cw.net, > your mail may be blacklisted. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 21:05:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA32473; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:05:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:05:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37420B44.36D3D73B@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:52:20 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Submissions - (nonlooping content) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_xzUD.0.oU7.2mWGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I now have unlimited space at my Xoom site as a trade off for the Xoombar in a frame thing they put up so I started a Spaced Oddities section. Anyone who would like to contribute contact me privately and we'll work it out. I take alot of hits at my site due to links from Elephant Tape, and Elepant Talk, (# 2 and 5 on the E- Tape jukebox at both), and I am linked to Rob Murphrees Official Adrian Belews Web Site/ So I offer this as a free service to anyone that maybe doesn't have access to or is new to the web and wants to get their music out. I will make a tape or cd into Real Audio for free so come on ahead! Jeff (the Sound Mangler, thanks Grendal) Duke http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 22:25:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA14065; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:25:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:25:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:31:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: DAVID FIRST w Keenan Lawler live webcast Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"L04WV.0.q83.mzXGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David First and Keenan Lawler Performance and Live Webcast Thursday May 20 9:00 pm ET >From Artswatch in Louisville, KY LOUISVILLE, KY -- Composer/guitarist David First will perform "A Bet on Transcendence Favors the House Part 2" for 13 drone paths guitar/synth controller and tonal fool. Visuals by Patricia Smith. First has written, "I am attempting through my music to charge the atmosphere with a directly physical presence, to disturb balances and re-focus attentions through the manipulation of subtle vibrational quantities, to play the tune for the dance between disorientation and total clarity, reconciling the unchecked senses with the logic games of the higher intellect. My ultimate wish is to transport an audience to the realm of pure feeling--to a state where all conflicting ideologies reach an harmonic concordance." Jon Pareles wrote in THE NEW YORK TIMES, "Strange things can happen in the spaces between the steps of the Western chromatic scale.....David First used finely calibrated pitch combinations to make the whole gallery throb and buzz and shimmer with invisible turbulence." The room is set spinning, careening and flying into a whirling dervish of tone and vibrational resonance. Sound swoops into the very fiber of the listener's being, and soars up the spine, directly into the cerebral cortex. Keenan Lawler, composer/improviser, will open the show performing music based on his new release on Konstant: "The Ghost of a Plane of Air." It features his acclaimed work on prepared, bowed and electronically-manipulated National Steel Resonator Guitar. Always seeking to expand beyond the boundaries of convention into a place of freedom where anything might happen, as a means of process Lawler takes this unlikely instrument so rich with tradition into an arena whereby it becomes a transmutable sound source -almost, in effect, a new instrument unto itself. The webcast will be displayed at www.konstant.com Webcast provided by Shadowcast Networks, www.shadowcast.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 22:44:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA17323; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:44:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:44:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990518193247.007b4420@pop.mindspring.com> References: <199905110706.DAA23927@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:40:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: sound processing ideas Resent-Message-ID: <"41N-6.0.J34.fIYGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >OK, I'm stuck. I've got experimental musicians' block. > get your self a filter. I have a Sherman FilterBank and it can totally warp any sound source... patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 18 23:28:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA24068; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:28:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:28:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:22:25 EDT Subject: bill frisell's new cd To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"s4BFC3.0.0i5.SwYGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i just bought bill's new cd and it is awesome. lots of loops too. Good Dog Happy Man it is called. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 00:51:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA07691; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:51:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:51:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000801bea1ad$a05b3a60$3769aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:10:38 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"734yF2.0.OW7.8fZGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What's the title? > i just bought bill's new cd and it is awesome. lots of loops too. Good Dog > Happy Man it is called. =-) PJ > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 01:06:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA09880; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:06:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:06:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <2d22118e.24739ea7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:57:11 EDT Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"j27MW.0.M52.DJaGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com good dog happy man. great stuff. also got the new tom waits which is also great if you are so inclined. pj From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 01:18:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA11917; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:18:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:18:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MrBERWELL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:09:12 EDT Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"EkkS6.0.9b2.XUaGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/19/99 12:51:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alan_i@sprynet.com writes: > What's the title? > > > > > i just bought bill's new cd and it is awesome. lots of loops too. Good Dog > > Happy Man it is called. =-) PJ "Good Dog Happy Man", perhaps? :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 01:46:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA17339; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:46:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:46:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:20:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199905190620.AAA03343@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: sound processing ideas Resent-Message-ID: <"P8GhQ1.0.363.4iaGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com try the basics,go back to the good ol=B4stompboxes,how about some= distorsion on the flute? it worked for me! :-)=20 Andy, From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 01:49:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA18049; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:49:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:49:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37424E98.6C17A658@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:39:37 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: EDP question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uYYTX.0.wp3.gvaGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all- I am having a problem with my EDP and would like to know any ideas on it- I get a sort of hissing sound with a loop which is audible only when the Feedback indicator lights up- on soft passages there is no noise. The noise is somehow interrelated to the signal/Feedback light- is this normal? I hope it is not- I also have a bit of the "thump" described when ending a loop but I have not had the time to open the unit and run the diagnostic described earlier- I find this noise to be most irritating and hope I can find the soloution- Thanks a lot- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 03:48:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA04707; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:48:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:48:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905190741.DAA27843@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: EDP question Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:39:11 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LnBoe2.0.uw.NjcGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From: Kim Flint > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > hmm, the old Andre problem returns.... there's an ECO oberheim should be > doing to correct that before they ship it. I guess they lost track of that wow - that was weird.. what the hell am i doing up?? and i see my name at 3.30 am..weird synchro.. spaceheads was pretty cool tonite - anyone hear them on the knit's web??? looped effected trumpet with live drummer, some taped bass lines often.weird and cool band. andre (east) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 03:50:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA04936; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:50:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:50:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37424E98.6C17A658@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:28:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP question Resent-Message-ID: <"2heLM.0.AZ.UVcGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi all- > >I am having a problem with my EDP and would like to know any ideas on >it- > >I get a sort of hissing sound with a loop which is audible only when the >Feedback indicator lights up- on soft passages there is no noise. The >noise is somehow interrelated to the signal/Feedback light- is this >normal? I hope it is not- > hmm, the old Andre problem returns.... there's an ECO oberheim should be doing to correct that before they ship it. I guess they lost track of that one. It's a pretty easy mod, involves soldering a couple of caps onto the board. I'll try to put that on the web site in case other people need it. I can send the text to you if you're comfortable with a soldering iron and want to do it yourself. I'll be meeting with OB/opcode/gibson people on friday, I'll ask them what's up with this one. As I recall, the noise was pretty low, hopefully you can work around it until you can get it fixed up right. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 04:20:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA09239; Wed, 19 May 1999 04:20:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 04:20:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BEA1E0.D7A2F5C0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: sound processing ideas Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:23:16 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"iwKY23.0.3_1.lAdGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com earthblind, starbound [leper@mindspring.com] wrote, > What ways are there to completely mangle a sound Definitely try granular synthesis. There is a shareware program called Granulab, by Rasmus Ekman, at http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse - also very nice: Audiomulch, at http://www.audiomulch.com which features granular synthesis functions in realtime, and a stereo spatializer which is great fun with headphones. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 05:12:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA15170; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:12:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:12:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905190741.DAA27843@shell.monmouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:58:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP question Resent-Message-ID: <"CjHcf2.0.CI3.opdGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:39 AM -0700 5/19/99, andre wrote: >> From: Kim Flint >> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > >> hmm, the old Andre problem returns.... there's an ECO oberheim should be >> doing to correct that before they ship it. I guess they lost track of >that > > >wow - that was weird.. what the hell am i doing up?? and i see my name at >3.30 am..weird synchro.. > >andre (east) of course, it's Andre of the West I'm referring to, unless you two are now one.... speaking of whom, Western Andre has been mighty quiet lately. Where is that boy? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 05:55:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA20232; Wed, 19 May 1999 05:55:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 05:55:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37428E16.6439@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:10:30 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"UOOXm.0.Nl4.oaeGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim Flint wrote: > >> hmm, the old Andre problem returns.... Nice that this should be the first message I get after coming home from the premiere of Star Wars at the movie theater. Deja Vu runs rampant. > >>there's an ECO oberheim should be > >> doing to correct that before they ship it. I guess they lost track of > >that The probnlem can beĘ"dealt with" in a couple of ways. If you set the MIX knob all the way to "loop", then the hissing noise goes away. (It also goes away if you set the knob to "dir," but of course you won't hear the loop that way...) It will also go away once the loop is built up to a more dense texture. I don't know the mechanical cause of the anomaly, but it tends to occur when signals fade into or out of silence. As Kim says, it's a very minor thing, which I only noticed after a year and a half of use. > of course, it's Andre of the West I'm referring to, unless you two are now > one.... No no, the bi-coastal brotherhood remains intact yet distinct. (Sorry, two hours of Liam Neeson talking to baby Darth Vader gets under the proverbial skin.) > speaking of whom, Western Andre has been mighty quiet lately. Where is that > boy? Recovering from finally completing the mixing and mastering of a forthcoming debut CD some two years in the making. Stay tuned... --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 07:10:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA28899; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:10:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:10:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00ad01bea1e7$0262cfa0$c5b854ce@mark.asisoftware.com> From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: "Loopers Delight" Cc: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: Fw: sound processing ideas Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:01:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"bZSSS3.0.6t6.gffGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >OK, I'm stuck. I've got experimental musicians' block. > >What ways are there to completely mangle a sound, to make them sound >completely different (without ruining them to the point that the pitch >or timing is ruined), by unfairly abusing fairly run of the mill >effects? Try running one or more EQs in parallel and set each one with a strange or unnatural EQ. For example, try cutting all frequencies that make your instrument sound natural, then boost one very narrow frequency. You might also want to try experimenting with very short delay times (1-10 milliseconds) with the feedback or regeneration control cranked up quite a bit. Mark Kata From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 07:43:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA00536; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:43:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:43:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990519112348.72480.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.95.31.49] Reply-To: "Pieter Vandecasteele" From: "Pieter Vandecasteele" To: References: <199905190620.AAA03343@servidor.unam.mx> Subject: Re: sound processing ideas Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:24:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"2xANe1.0.nV7.czfGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Soto To: Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 8:20 AM Subject: Re: sound processing ideas try the basics,go back to the good ol´stompboxes,how about some distorsion on the flute? it worked for me! :-) Andy, I did that to, and I got a real fat bass, if you play the low flute notes it was a boss hm-7, heavy metal stompbox From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 08:43:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA08675; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:43:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:43:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ways to make your stuff sound different... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"f8VJC3.0.wv.HfgGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Process your stuff through: Lexicon Vortex (heady trippy possibilities) Octave Divider (play in a range below your usual home ground) Distortion with the high-end rolled off or full on Ibanez Swell Flanger works nicely for unusual attacks of sounds Vocoderize your tracks (a recent track I did has vocoderized drums, vocoderized synth bass, and vocoderized drone guitars). The dynamic control here provides wonderful tonal variations. (This is the vocoder in my Roland VS-840 workstation). Put your instrument through an MXR blue box (interesting FX). Go to the local consignment store and buy a used, weird stompbox and try that out. Record your instrument backwards and flip the tape. Experiment with compression - that can have a vast effect on the attacks and flavor of your tones. Try playing through multiple delays, and/or split your signal path so that one path has an effected delay happening (octave divided signal leading into a delay, distortion into a delay, vocoder into a delay). Record a track with your instrument. Then record a second track at the same pan position playing the indentical notes and attacks but in a different octave (or interval). Then effect the results so that it doesn't sound like two instruments, but one with an unusual tone color. Insure volume levels for each instrument doesn't cancel the other out, but just enough of each to be distinctive. If that bores you, flip that track backwards. If that bores you, send the effected signal back to tape (or disk) and then re-effect (with a different effect) that track. Put a drum machine through a tap tempo delay for an interesting effect. Put a drum machine through a tap tempo delay and a vocoder for a weird, vocally percussive effect. Put a drum machine through a distortion box or tube preamp for that industrial effect. Bring a stereo recordable walkman on a walk through a park. Use the resulting field recording in your project. Steve Tibbets did this to great effect on "Safe Journey". Use audio morphing software to give a note the attack of a trumpet with the decay of a flute or other instrument. These are just some of the ideas I thought of to try for variations in sound. Don't forget to loop the results. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 11:30:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA06249; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:12:31 EDT Subject: Re: sound processing ideas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"8a-vH2.0.Ep.GLjGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Or get yourself a sampler, preferably an old one with analog filters.... I use mine all the time. Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 12:15:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA15640; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:15:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:15:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3742DF59.5C46D8D6@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:57:13 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"H-VR8.0.hl2.UyjGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks Kim- I have no problem using a soldering iron- if you could send along the text it would be much appreciated- the noise is low but not low enough! I do lots of single line guitar work on it and find the noise to be quite prominant at times, enough to prevent me from recording the results- if I could make it quiet I would be very pleased indeed. - I would also be interested in what the builders say as far as whether or not they were addressing this problem or not- Cliff P.S. Hey Andre, not a word about the Phantom Menace? Am I the only one who is curious?? ;) Kim Flint wrote: > hmm, the old Andre problem returns.... there's an ECO oberheim should be > doing to correct that before they ship it. I guess they lost track of that > one. It's a pretty easy mod, involves soldering a couple of caps onto the > board. I'll try to put that on the web site in case other people need it. I > can send the text to you if you're comfortable with a soldering iron and > want to do it yourself. I'll be meeting with OB/opcode/gibson people on > friday, I'll ask them what's up with this one. > > As I recall, the noise was pretty low, hopefully you can work around it > until you can get it fixed up right. > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 12:30:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA18502; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:30:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:30:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m1cha3l@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905180708.DAA13729@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:12:09 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Michael Tuminello Subject: powerbook and looping Resent-Message-ID: <"TWW9O2.0.O44.zJkGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com check out www.bitheadz.com for a cool software synth and sampler. Also www.koblo.com. YOu can get some amazing sounds out of both of these. MT From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 13:05:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA25210; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:05:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:05:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: gnominus@earthling.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051912553231.11216@weba1.iname.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:55:32 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I'm away for a bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4OiU7.0.tk5.BrkGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm writing this from the web. I'm sorry to share a bit of dark news with you about my computer, which fried last Saturday night. It burned my hard drives for some reason, I still don't know why, but, after the repairs, I found the motherboard and CPU were fine. I've lost everything in my hard drives, including a great deal of e-mail from this wonderful Loopers' Delight. To those whom I owe information or help because of my neglect, please re-e-mail me. I should have my computer up and running with a new little hard drive late tonight. Let this be a lesson to you: Back up, back up and back up! I did not back up my effing computer. I lost a great deal of music software, musical experiments, bits and pieces I was working with, collections of interesting things from all over the Web, writings I'd been doing, etc., etc. I can't remember everything that was in there, but every time I do remember another thing, it's like another knife twisting inside. I never thought my computer would do this, but it did! It's costing me a hell of too much money to put it back together, and all it would have cost me was an effing cheap $250 back-up drive from HP. Would-have, should-have... I'm also gonna get a battery back-up unit from APC, which is said to also protect from spikes and other electrical meanies. Back up your computer data! Sorry for the lack of looping content. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 14:48:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA13724; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:48:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:48:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002f01bea226$87c145c0$ee07b3d1@jeancolin> From: "Jean or Colin Jenkinson" To: Subject: Re: sound processing ideas Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:35:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"u7QMr3.0.su2.YKmGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Go to a toy store! Colin Jenkinson|nosnikneJ niloC jeancolin@earthlink.net "Close bathtub drain.Pour a small amount of Foaming Bubble Bath under the faucet. Adjust the water temmperature." --DIRECTIONS From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 15:35:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA21032; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:35:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:35:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990519192405.71417.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [132.230.1.172] From: "Ryan Jackson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: she is a kamevelian Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:24:01 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"tUTo52.0.Ei4.t_mGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Enogh of it, I know now World. O.K. now I know I'm in the trueman show. >I'm writing this from the web. I'm sorry to share a bit of dark news with >you about my computer, which fried last Saturday night. It burned my hard >drives for some reason, I still don't know why, but, after the repairs, I >found the motherboard and CPU were fine. I've lost everything in my hard >drives, including a great deal of e-mail from this wonderful Loopers' >Delight. To those whom I owe information or help because of my neglect, >please re-e-mail me. I should have my computer up and running with a new >little hard drive late tonight. > >Let this be a lesson to you: Back up, back up and back up! I did not back >up my effing computer. I lost a great deal of music software, musical >experiments, bits and pieces I was working with, collections of interesting >things from all over the Web, writings I'd been doing, etc., etc. I can't >remember everything that was in there, but every time I do remember another >thing, it's like another knife twisting inside. > >I never thought my computer would do this, but it did! It's costing me a >hell of too much money to put it back together, and all it would have cost >me was an effing cheap $250 back-up drive from HP. Would-have, >should-have... I'm also gonna get a battery back-up unit from APC, which >is said to also protect from spikes and other electrical meanies. > >Back up your computer data! > >Sorry for the lack of looping content. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 16:50:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA00750; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:50:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:50:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:37:14 EDT Subject: Re: (CT) EAST To: Nemoguitt@aol.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"29WBE3.0.vc7.54oGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the unknown reason i sent it to you (michael) is because i am an idiot. sorry. now it is a known reason. when i was in high school years ago i managed to send myself roses instead of to a girl i was interested in. OOPS!! there is something about filling out forms and mailing stuff that challenges me for some reason. not sure why. sorry to everyone for my postal bungling. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 16:57:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA02141; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:57:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:57:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3743235A.7495E3EA@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:47:33 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"dPFLr2.0.n4.iDoGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com MrBERWELL@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/19/99 12:51:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > alan_i@sprynet.com writes: > > > What's the title? > > > > > > > > > i just bought bill's new cd and it is awesome. lots of loops too. Good > Dog > > > Happy Man it is called. =-) PJ > > "Good Dog Happy Man", perhaps? :-) this brings me great joy, having seen frisell play recently (and being utterly humbled in the process)... anyone out there know what he's using for looping? lance g. p.s.: i'll second the recommendation on tom waits' new album. mule variations it is called (that's the title, too...:^)) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 17:20:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA07077; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:20:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:20:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <99382bea.24748086@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:00:54 EDT Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd To: baumhaus@earthlink.net, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"Kv9wI1.0.F-.WWoGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com not sure what bill is using on the cd but some of the stuff sounds backwards and some sounds sped up and slowed down so that kind of narrows down what it can and can't be. going to see bill this sat. night in nyc. i will check out his looping devices. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 17:35:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA10340; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:35:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:35:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <179916cc.2474868f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:26:39 EDT Subject: Re: Re: (CT) EAST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac sub 85 Resent-Message-ID: <"nmVIF2.0.eA2.UpoGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/19/99 9:50:19 PM, PJ wrote: <> Don't you mean LOOPS!!?? Sounds like an early-warning sign of aptitude for looping to me... Looking forward to hearing your looping gifts! dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 17:45:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA13009; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:45:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:45:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:32:16 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: (CT) EAST Resent-Message-ID: <"H19Nw.0.lP2.ntoGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >the unknown reason i sent it to you (michael) is because i am an idiot. >sorry. now it is a known reason. when i was in high school years ago i >managed to send myself roses instead of to a girl i was interested in. OOPS!! >there is something about filling out forms and mailing stuff that challenges >me for some reason. not sure why. sorry to everyone for my postal bungling. >=-) PJ Hey PJ you did it again, cause now you replied to the whole LD list not just the tape list....:) did you enjoy the roses.... patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 17:55:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA16181; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:55:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:55:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <64321984.24748b9d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:48:13 EDT Subject: Re: (CT) EAST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"9o3Dz1.0.tc3.Q7pGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com actually the reply to all was on purpose. i wanted to let everyone know i was an idiot. the roses eventually got to the girl but nothing really came of them if i recall. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 19 19:23:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA01230; Wed, 19 May 1999 19:23:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:23:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <16f2b19c.2474a0cf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:18:39 EDT Subject: Re: (CT) EAST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"IkMsZ3.0.L8._RqGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks alot for the roses, (whoever sent them!!!) hawkeye ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 02:22:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA09924; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:22:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:22:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008501bea284$ed9377c0$c562aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <3743235A.7495E3EA@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:51:35 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"cWhkh3.0.6B1.2EwGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw him do an unaccompanied solo gig in SF last October. I believe he uses an EH 16 Second Delay in conjunction with a Boss delay. I tried to get a closer look at his rig but was thwarted. ----- Original Message ----- From: lance glover To: Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd > > > MrBERWELL@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/19/99 12:51:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > alan_i@sprynet.com writes: > > > > > What's the title? > > > > > > > > > > > > > i just bought bill's new cd and it is awesome. lots of loops too. Good > > Dog > > > > Happy Man it is called. =-) PJ > > > > "Good Dog Happy Man", perhaps? :-) > > > > this brings me great joy, having seen frisell play recently (and being utterly > humbled in the process)... anyone out there know what he's using for looping? > > > lance g. > > > p.s.: i'll second the recommendation on tom waits' new album. mule variations > it is called (that's the title, too...:^)) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 04:34:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA29020; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:34:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 04:34:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: CNPT@aol.com Message-ID: <926b8da3.24751e62@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 04:14:26 EDT Subject: Re: RE: Digitech,DOD Series PDS,RDS To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"b2EiK.0.iU6.qHyGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 06:06:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA07212; Thu, 20 May 1999 06:06:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:06:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3743D9C4.7B68C69@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:45:43 +0200 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be Organization: NOPE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: experimental block References: <199905200705.DAA18152@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lEdog1.0.p31.5bzGt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I would also simply add Listen to a few Brian Eno CD (like 'Nerve Net') If you have a guitar, change completely the tuning in order to be completely unable to rely on your routine playing. Start work with constraint: Anything would work: No bass drum. E is a forbidden note. Never have more than 4 bars in the same time signature. Most of those things won't make music. They are more of a kind of mind exercices. That can lead somewhere. You can also go to d/l the Eno's "Oblique Strategies" deck ccards (funny no one mentioned it) after all that was why they were done. And agood thing is to work and NEVER record anything. No security allowed. Just rely on your (distorted by your feelings at best) memory to make the piece go on. Too much back ups of anything kills us. Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 10:41:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA14176; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:41:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:41:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905201405.KAA24349@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: bill frisell's new trio..LIVE 2nite Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:02:58 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"z4bft.0.rt1.HR1Ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone gonne be at the Frisell trio tionite?? Village vanguard thur 5/20 - 9.30pm -- i'll be there!! my pic is at http://www.monmouth.com/~andre see ya, andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 18:24:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA12342; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:24:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:24:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37448777.94B89FBF@uswest.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:06:47 -0600 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Overt looping comes to Denver. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"oW-u42.0.YA2.iU8Ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Looping sighting in Denver last nite- Trey Anastasio (of Phish fame) appeared in a trio format at the opening of the new Denver Fillmore last night. I grokked the extensive use of loopage to the point of maximum sensory overload .... mmmmm, sensory overload.... I did a stage dive to ascertain the secrets of said looping device(s), but was thwarted by monitors. He's got like TWENTY pedals for gosh sake! Peace! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 19:38:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA26330; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:38:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:38:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3743D9C4.7B68C69@vete.ucl.ac.be> References: <199905200705.DAA18152@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:28:07 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: experimental block / I'm away for a bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wjVMS1.0.wZ5.HY9Ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Olivier Malhommes philosophy: >Too much back ups of anything kills us. ... is great. Its can turn into ball and chain. I thought of answering something like this to the poor friend gnominus that lost all his stuff. Shure its hard, but some people started to live after their flat burnt down, simply because they had a free new joice to invest into what they really want, with the freedom not to finish what they started. Maria throws her agenda in the trash when she moves to the next city. Here in Brasil, sometimes I feel that I am the only one that backs up, and the PCs break down a lot. I am lucky to have the means to carefully burn all to CDs, but do I live happier? Joplin sung: Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 20 19:38:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA26349; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:38:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:38:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3742DF59.5C46D8D6@earthlink.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:27:59 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP question Resent-Message-ID: <"lBOMb.0.1a5.IY9Ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I would also be interested in >what the builders say as far as whether or not they were addressing this >problem or not- > >Cliff It seams that on most units, the noise not audible. Here, I never noted it. I wonder why its so strong on yours... We also slowed down the writing to the LED in the soft (no visible change) to reduce the high frequencies on the line to the LED and such the interference. But maybe this is only for the version to come out, is it, Kim? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 00:10:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA07770; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:10:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:10:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3744E3C2.DA27291E@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:40:38 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Out of the loop. References: <199905200705.DAA18152@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"gqkN82.0.Vj.wLDHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey all, Well, I've been away for a while, and let me tell you: I have no idea what's going on in the world of looper gear. I've been using ACID on my girlfriend's laptop, but I long for a similar program for the Mac. Does such a thing exist? Also, I still use my trusty JamMan, but long for the fabled Echoplex. Is such a thing currently in production? Something similar? I use a MIDI clock from a sequencer to establish a loop length, so that's pretty important for my looping needs. I'd much rather do a hardware solution, but a software solution is OK. I've got a Power Macintosh 7500 upgraded to a 300 mhz G3 with 168 meg of RAM. Is Digital Performer worth the cash? I'm currently using Metro 4 for MIDI sequencing and audio recording. It works OK, but I fear that my Mac's sound card just doesn't cut it for squeezing out those extra tracks. Anyone know of a decent low cost audio card for the Mac. Love that wacky OS, if only there were the same hardware and software available for it. (hear that, developers?) Hey, I found this cool website, check it out: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 04:24:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA19624; Fri, 21 May 1999 04:24:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:24:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3744CEE5.7B42F5B2@texas.net> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 03:11:35 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Out of the loop. References: <199905200705.DAA18152@rosy.yourwebhost.com> <3744E3C2.DA27291E@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LZGpO3.0.g84.fJHHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com mark of the unicorn will have a nifty looping tool on digital performer 2.6 called polar; check it out @ www.motu.com bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 06:23:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA02940; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:23:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:23:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37453DDC.607B@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:05:01 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: back up :-) References: <199905210705.DAA04020@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Yepk53.0.Yu7.X_IHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Matthias, I couldn't "demonstrate" it better. And clearly, each time i've lost data that were "so dear to me", passing the initial shock (which is of some magnitude, sometimes), I felt more free. Usually things turn out like i wanted them. Who was that (well known, even for a french man) american writer who said "you have to kill your dearest"? Question is how much of affection we throw in the piece, i mean, when you have been working on a string arrangement for 2 week, and that eventually it works not so bad. How easy is it to say "OK this song just need an acoustic guitar and voice. period."? For me it is never easy. Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 06:37:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA05090; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:37:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:37:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:15:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19990521112355.267f6ea4@subnet.virtual-pc.com> X-Sender: or387751@subnet.virtual-pc.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: david cooper orton Subject: Headrush in the UK - coming some day, maybe Resent-Message-ID: <"wEPCN1.0.kk.-GJHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all According to an ad in "Making Music", the Akai Headrush is available in the UK, priced GBP 139.00, which sounds pretty fair. So - all you long-term owners - could you remind me: is there an audible click at the loop point, or has anyone found a work-around for it (or did I just mis-read, and it gives a crystalline response under all conditions)?! Oh - and new CDs: can't Wait for the new Bill F (down! sit! good dog etc) but I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the Steve Tibbetts recording with the Norwegian fiddle players, given the collective enthusiasm for his previous work. And David Toop has a new(ish), quite dark work ("Museum Of Fruit") which some here might appreciate. Cheers David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 06:32:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA04535; Fri, 21 May 1999 06:32:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:32:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374540F3.2BE0@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:18:12 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: hard disk recording References: <199905210705.DAA04020@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CMXwO1.0.qW.dBJHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I doubt your mac g3 is going to get overwhelmed. I have a Power computing clone (604e @ 210 mHz) and in cubase, I can run up to 18 tracks of audio. This is not connected to the audio card performance. The trouble of built-in audio is sound quality. I think the ceappest are SEK'D, Yamaha's DSP farm and the old audiomedia III. Again I may be wrong. Regarding Acid, I think that Recycle is doing more or less what acid may do. But i'm no expert on that point. Looping on a computer just involves in my case, recording a part of interest and copying it. I can then change effects/placement/volume:eq/whatever, but that is the main way for me to loop on a computer. A french advertisement for MOTU says "with an off the shelf G3 @ 450 mHz and a 2408, it was possible to get up to 72 audio tracks simultaneously". Not exactly M. Jackson, but getting close! :-) Olivier malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 09:35:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA09156; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:35:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:35:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905211327.PAA03939@aristotele.atene.it> From: "roberto briozzo" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:23:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: roland dj70 disc Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.02b14) Resent-Message-ID: <"Bosvv2.0._p1.hwLHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi! i had a roland dj70 sampler.... i sold it, but i still have a lot of floppy-disks with the samples i did. is there a way to read these floppy with a Mac or a PC? (sorry for my english, i hope you're understanding....) bye from italy. canemacchina briozzo@atene.it icq 25922888 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 09:44:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA10571; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:44:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:44:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Sat in NJ: Dark Aether Project/Quarkspace/Ray Ashley Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"kkwnU.0.OA2.83MHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8pm on Saturday May 22nd 1999 The Dark Aether Project, Quarkspace and Ray Ashley will perform at The Vault located at 10 Livingston Ave in New Brunswick NJ. Admission is $10 at the door. The Dark Aether Project's 21st century progressive-psyche-fusion features Adam Levin (Warr 8 String Touch Guitar/Keyboards/Loops), Yaman Aksu (Fretted and Fretless Guitars, Guitar Synth, Hammond Organ), Ray Weston (Vocals) and Allen Brunelle (Drums/Percussion/Keyboards). The Dark Aether Project will perform in support of their latest CD "Feed The Silence". See http://www.DarkAether.Net/ Space rock improv greats Quarkspace hail from Columbus Ohio. Their music blends spacey-synth textures, tribal rhythms and a dual guitar attack for a mind-blowing experience. Check out their 5th volume of spontaneous improv "SpaceFolds 5" now in anticipation of their forthcoming double album "Hidden Moon". See: http://www.quarkspace.com/ Ray Ashley is a member of psychedelic fusion jammers Three Hour Detour. Joining Ray will be guest percussionist Mike Lambe. Ray will be playing his 10 String Austin Douglas Touch Guitar which allows him to play both bass and medley lines at the same time for an amazing experience that'll leave you wondering how all of that sound can come from a single person! For more info, check out: http://mars.superlink.net/~rayash/ Directions: - Take the NJ Turnpike to Exit 9 - After paying the toll, bear right onto Route 18 North to New Brunswick - At the fork go to the left to stay on Rt 18 North getting over to the right - 100 yards after the second light, take the New Street exit - Continue on New Street until the third light where you will turn right onto Livingston. - The Vault is about 50 yards down inside the Monument Hotel directly across from the State Theater. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Upcoming Dark Aether Project concerts for the month of June Sat Jun 12 11pm -Live in the studios of WBZC 88.9 FM - Pemberton NJ Email info@darkaether.net if you'd like to be in the studio audience Thu Jun 17 9pm - Cafe Tattoo - 4825 Belair Road - Baltimore MD with Chaos Code and Winston's Dog Sat Jun 19 8pm - W. Hare American Legion Hall - 2nd/Walnut - Lansdale PA other act TBA Fri Jun 25 8pm - Phantasmagoria - 11319 Elkin St - Wheaton MD with Solaris - all the way from Hungary in their first U.S. east coast show $15 admission at the door Many other shows on the way including the 5th annual Progday outdoor international music festival in Chapel Hill NC Labor Day weekend with Discipline, Thinking Plague, Tenn Jinn (US), NeBeLNeST (France), Tribe of Cro (Belgium), Consorzio Acqua Potabile (Italy), Equinox (Panama), Apocalypse (Brazil) and more. Stay tuned to the website at http://www.DarkAether.Net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 09:47:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA11199; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:47:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:47:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990521084002.007cd210@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:40:02 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: OT . . . help finding music In-Reply-To: <37420B44.36D3D73B@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"pzkjH1.0.xN2.O8MHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... I'm having trouble finding a particular live James Brown recording, so I figured that I'd pick everyone's brains in hopes that someone out there was an authority on James Brown. Here's what I've got: I heard a live version of "Cold Sweat" on the radio, and I'd really like to get the CD that it comes from. Unfortuntely (as you know), there are so many live recordings that it's hard to find the exact one. This version was pretty hot, and the recording was really, really good. The guitar was figuring more prominently in the mix, and the vocals sounded like a younger JB--tons of screaming and some incredible grunts and such. It was a long version of the tune. Somewhere in the middle, James tells the band over and over to "let the drummer have some..." and, finally the band sort of falls out. Then, James tells them that "it's alright, y'all can play with him if you want to..." The end of the version has James totally screaming his brains about over and over again, saying "I can't stop singing!!!!" I've described this version to several people, and they all figure that it's an older recording, but no one know which one it is. So, I'm hoping that you might be able to point me in the right direction. This version was just so hot that I've got to have the whole recording! Any help that you can offer would be most appreciated! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 11:56:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA00752; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:56:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:56:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905211402.KAA04071@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"zmiWL.0.Gh7.Y0OHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #115 May 20, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest). Space music and Progressive rock share some common ancestry and musical cross pollination which continues to this day. When I began EMUSIC, I promised that I wouldn't totally abandon the audience of Jim Ferrani's show Deep Cuts, the Art and Progressive Rock program which used to occupy this time slot. This focus on NEARfest fulfills that promise. Special guest Chad Hutchinson, webmaster of the Ghostland web site and Vice President of NEARfest presented the music of the bands to be appearing at the inaugural NEARfest. Ghostland : http://ghostland.com NEARfest : http://ghostland.com/nearfest EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Tangerine Dream Phaedra Phaedra (Virgin) Meg Bowles Ancestral Ground From the Dark Earth (Kumatone) Robert Rich Coils Seven Veils (Hearts of Space) Robert Carty Gravitation Darklight (Deep Sky) Ian Boddy/Markus Reuter PresentationOfAnOffering Distant Rituals (DiN) Rad. Mass. Int. 30 Years Borrowed Atoms (Centaur) 12:00 am Nathan Mahl Clever Use of Shadows Clever Use of Shadows (none) Nathan Mahl Orgasmik Outburst II Clever Use of Shadows (none) Mastermind Ride of the Valkyrie Volume 2: Brainstorm (ZNR) Mastermind On the Road By Noon Excelsior! (Inside Out) Spock's Beard Gibberish Day for Night (Radiant) Spock's Beard The Light The Light (Syn-Phonic) Synergy Synergy Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestr (Polgram) Synergy Disruption of World Cords (Polygram) Communications * 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will conclude the month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest) with special guest Chad Hutchinson. The Feature CD at Midnight will return in June. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 11:56:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA00789; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:56:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:56:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: billfox@lucent.com Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905211428.KAA04714@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Resent-Message-ID: <"8cb7u3.0.FV7.tyNHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice for April, 1999. (Shows #112 to #115; 29-April-1999 to 20-May-1999 Reported in alphabetical order by album title. Compiled by Bill Fox PLEASE USE THIS ADDRESS: billfox@fast.net <===***** ---------------- ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Various - The Ambient Expanse - Mirage Pryamid Peak - Atmosphere - Invisible Shadows Radio Massacre International - Borrowed Atoms - Centaur Ian Boddy - Box of Secrets - DiN Fountainhead - Cloud Cover - Aucourant Robert Carty - Darklight - Deep Sky Deborah Martin - Deep Roots - Spotted Peccary Ian Boddy & Markus Reuter - Distant Rituals - DiN Paul Nagle - Earthshaper - AMP Meg Bowles - From the Dark Earth - Kumatone OZMA - Huge And Silent Place - AtomicCity Bjorn Fogelberg - KarooshiPorn - Ninetysix Sounds Viridian Sun - Perihelion - Hypnos Robert Rich - Seven Veils - Hearts of Space Wave World - Species - Quantum Protognos - Strange Geographie - DiN Various - Syntonic Waves Vol 2 - Woodberry Ron Boots - Tainted Bare Skin - Groove Various - Voyager - AdAstra Various - Weightless, Effortless - Hypnos From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 12:46:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA11839; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:46:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:46:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990521164023.6463.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:40:23 -0700 (PDT) From: petr dolak Subject: OHIO MUSICAL LANDSCAPES To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"UZ_OJ3.0.VN2.3lOHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Musical Landscapes for Site Specific Sculptures in Ohio Closing Reception Petr Dolak, electric guitar, looping devices, percussion, objects. Saturday May 22, 3pm. Where: Northside Ice & Coal Complex Millworks Gallery, Inc. 129 Summit St. Akron, OH from downtown akron: main st to n. howard st, right on furnace st, right on summit st, 129 summit st on left === Nasledujici oznameni je bohuzel nevyhnutelne. V zadnem pripade ale neznamena, ze bych osobne chtel propagovat tuto spolecnost. _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 13:17:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA18387; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:17:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:17:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990521170451.006f80e8@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:04:51 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leo Cavallo Subject: Re: hard disk recording Resent-Message-ID: <"Bqu8H2.0.iy3.RBPHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi At 12.18 21/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >I doubt your mac g3 is going to get overwhelmed. > >I have a Power computing clone (604e @ 210 mHz) and in cubase, I can run >up to 18 tracks of audio. This is not connected to the audio card >performance. The trouble of built-in audio is sound quality. > >I think the ceappest are SEK'D, Yamaha's DSP farm and the old audiomedia >III. >Again I may be wrong. > >Regarding Acid, I think that Recycle is doing more or less what acid may >do. they are really different programs. Recycle breaks the original audio file in multiple slices, analizing attack tresholds. then you can export slices as single audio files or transmit them to a sampler to be played via MIDI (the prog creates the MIDI sequence too). Acid works on audio only, performing real time timestretching and pitch shifting operations. If you have a bunch of loops at different tempos and pitch, just load them in acid and in a few seconds all has musical sense! Two great softwares, but really different... But i'm no expert on that point. Looping on a computer just involves >in my case, recording a part of interest and copying it. I can then >change effects/placement/volume:eq/whatever, but that is the main way >for me to loop on a computer. > >A french advertisement for MOTU says "with an off the shelf G3 @ 450 mHz >and a 2408, it was possible to get up to 72 audio tracks >simultaneously". I've got a MOTU2408 and it's a great soundcard. If you plan to work a lot with adat and other digital devices get a 2408. I'm only waiting to have some money for a new mac G3... ;) ciao leo >Not exactly M. Jackson, but getting close! >:-) > >Olivier malhomme > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 14:09:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA28468; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:09:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:09:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dogsandice@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:46:29 EDT Subject: Re: OHIO MUSICAL LANDSCAPES To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"MJ8s43.0.9s5.UmPHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this sounds very interesting. i wish i could go. cc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 14:31:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA00654; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:31:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:31:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3745A44C.B7CB8436@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:22:05 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT . . . help finding music References: <3.0.6.32.19990521084002.007cd210@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Knxed.0._a7.2HQHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > Hi, all... > > I'm having trouble finding a particular live James Brown recording, so I > figured that I'd pick everyone's brains in hopes that someone out there was > an authority on James Brown.... let us know where you find it! lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 20:13:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA01493; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:13:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:13:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301bea3e4$d890ecc0$3662aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: Subject: Re: bill frisell's new cd Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:51:22 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"MADnr2.0.pO7.m7VHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just got the Frisell CD myself. I concur with PJ: cool loops and great playing. For those of you familiar with his previous stuff, the vibe on the latest is slightly similar to his Nashville CD but less "down-home" feeling which is probably due to the addition of a full rhythm section (Nashville was sans drummer). To my surprise, I found that another of my favorite guitarists, Ry Cooder, plays on one song. Good CD. ----- Original Message ----- > i just bought bill's new cd and it is awesome. lots of loops too. Good Dog > Happy Man it is called. =-) PJ > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 20:12:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA01250; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:12:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:12:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002201bea3e4$9727ee00$3662aec7@default> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <1.5.4.16.19990521112355.267f6ea4@subnet.virtual-pc.com> Subject: Re: Headrush in the UK - coming some day, maybe Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:45:34 -0700 Organization: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"nSPhx3.0.rJ7.36VHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The audible click is most noticable when recording direct. When I set it up through my amplifier/looping rig (Mesa Boogie, fx loop > DOD Dimension 12 > Midiverb> Headrush and back to Boogie), the click is undetectable. As for noise, it is as quieter than most of my delay stomp pedals though not as quiet as a more expensive rack-mount looper. However, I must reiterate that, for the money, it is well worth the investment. ----- Original Message ----- From: david cooper orton To: Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 3:15 AM Subject: Headrush in the UK - coming some day, maybe > Hi all > > According to an ad in "Making Music", the Akai Headrush is available in the > UK, priced GBP 139.00, which sounds pretty fair. > > So - all you long-term owners - could you remind me: is there an audible > click at the loop point, or has anyone found a work-around for it (or did I > just mis-read, and it gives a crystalline response under all conditions)?! > > Oh - and new CDs: can't Wait for the new Bill F (down! sit! good dog etc) > but I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the Steve Tibbetts recording with > the Norwegian fiddle players, given the collective enthusiasm for his > previous work. And David Toop has a new(ish), quite dark work ("Museum Of > Fruit") which some here might appreciate. > > Cheers > > David > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 21:16:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA10982; Fri, 21 May 1999 21:16:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:16:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:53:37 EDT Subject: Adelante/ Amnesty international benefit To: binkyg@hotmail.com, stickwire-l@majordomo.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"KBdFf3.0.e52.25WHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat. June 5th. 3:00-8:00pm. "Amnesty International Sponsored Tienamin Square Remembrance", JFK Park, Sommers Point, N.J. For info call: (609)391-1806. Adelante will be one of several performers at this event and will most likely be performing in the evening. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 21 23:09:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27735; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:09:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:09:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Disposition-Notification-To: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:51:23 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: DOD/ DIGITECH DELAYS FS Resent-Message-ID: <"Lpw0Z3.0.D56.xkXHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw this at Harmony Central tonight. I know someone was looking for dod/digiwreck delays ealier this week. I don't know if these are the ones , but here goes: >EFFECTS PROCESSORS (DELAY) DigiTech RDS 7.6 Sec. Digital > Delay/Sampler Rack Unit great RDS 7.6 Sec. Digital Delay/Sampler > Rack Unit, Good Cond., Owned by famous Christian guitarist, lots > of controls & features. Amazing- chorus, sampling, flange $145obo > EFFECTS PROCESSORS (DELAY) DOD Dual Delay R880 Rack Unit > (Analog), great Dual Delay R880 Rack Unit (Analog), Good Cond., > interesting, midrangey, 70's sound & cool vintage "Personality" > for your rack - Beige w/ big blue knobs- sturdy $49 firm >Seller: Wendell Nilson, 6155555555 >E-mail: troyn@nashville.net (Profile) >Location: NASHVILLE, TN >Post Date: 5/21/99 Please contact the seller and not me. Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 07:17:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA22079; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:17:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:17:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37469022.D2FE2A3B@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:08:22 +0200 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be Organization: NOPE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:bac up the sequel (off topic) References: <199905220705.DAA29540@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0FKEm2.0.E65.Z-eHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just to say "Falkner". It was Faulkner who said (wrote in fact) "you have to kill your dearest" Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 07:53:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA26189; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:53:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:53:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990522114808.17932.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.95.31.164] Reply-To: "Pieter Vandecasteele" From: "Pieter Vandecasteele" To: References: <199905220705.DAA29540@rosy.yourwebhost.com> <37469022.D2FE2A3B@vete.ucl.ac.be> Subject: How do I get of this list? Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:46:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"q8yyj1.0.nE6.RcfHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How do I get of this list? -- /°>- - - - - - - - - - - - <°\ |Pieter Vandecasteele| | ICQ# : 32919660 | \>- - - - - - ~ - - - - - - Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:16:07 EDT Subject: Re: sound processing ideas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"Y_Rkx3.0.4l.0vgHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hellay there, Try out a new musical style... Pretty much, if I get stuck, I end up taking a good listen to something from Womad or other ethnic label, and off I go... Just a matter of broadening your perspective. Hey, even read a new authour, know this helps for a few friends of mine who gig it out. L8r, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 10:30:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA12863; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:30:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:30:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000e01bea45d$7706ca00$49954e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: , Subject: Re: Re:bac up the sequel (off topic) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:14:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"4WEyB1.0.OZ2.8khHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Just to say "Falkner". >It was Faulkner who said (wrote in fact) "you have to kill >your dearest" > >Olivier Malhomme Apologies for being WAY off topic, but the two spellings of the Nobel-prize-winning author's name are both correct. His family spelled it "Falkner" but he added the "u" to make it "Faulkner." If anyone in interested in avant-garde, dense and almost "looped" prose, please read such masterpieces as "The Sound And The Fury," "As I Lay Dying," "Sanctuary," "Absalom, Absalom," [see what I mean?] etc. BTW, Mr. Faulkner's literary reputation is more greatly appreciated in Europe, especially France, than here in the U.S. Belletristric regards to Olivier. James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 11:21:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA21606; Sat, 22 May 1999 11:21:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:21:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:08:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"oWVdJ3.0.HO4.GUiHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Try out a new musical style... Pretty much, if I get stuck, I end up >taking a good listen to something from Womad or other ethnic label, and off I >go... Just a matter of broadening your perspective. Hey, even read a new >authour, know this helps for a few friends of mine who gig it out. > > L8r, > > Lee-ohki. Great advice, Lee! I'd like to amplify this a little and give some suggestions. Try imitating a musical style from another culture (unusual scales, interval tunings, rhythms, etc.) Imitate an instrument from another culture, e.g. make your guitar sound like a shakuhachi (or make your shakuhachi sound like a bagpipes). Make up your own "musical culture" and set your own rules, resulting in an "imagined" ethnic music. Invert the accustomed role of your instrument. I.e., instead of playing melody on guitar use it solely as a "drum", turn the "rhythm" section into the main melodic focus, etc. Limit yourself to a span of three or four notes and see how much new material you can get from these notes by permutations, varying tone color, leaping across octaves, etc. Use found objects and other unlikely "musical" sources -- vacuum cleaners, lawn mowers, etc. run through effects and used as drones. Imitate the rhythms of speech -- instead of a fluid melodic line try to incorporate all the little pauses, "um-s," "er-s," "y'know-s" as well as the stammerings, repeated words, etc. that we all use when talking, but we let our brains filter this all out so as to get the gist of what's being communicated. The best musical example I can think of this is Lou Reed's guitar soli on "All Tomorrow's Parties" from the first Velvet Underground album. Focus on tone color and texture as the main elements in a piece, instead of lyrics, melody, rhythm, etc. [This is probably a common practice for everyone already] Totally ignore any one element of a "song" -- for instance, write a "formula song" (verse - chorus - verse - bridge, etc.) but don't use any chords. Polytonality - have different instruments play in unrelated (or only marginally related) keys. "Cross rhythms" or "polyrhythms" - have each instrument play in a different time signature. Force "microtonality" from instruments that don't have this capability. For example, using recording pitch controls, record a keyboard instrument slightly slower or faster than the other instruments for a "wobbly" effect. Or add temporary microtonal frets to your fingerboard by using toothpicks, etc. BUT BEWARE: I'd begun using these ideas years ago in an "experimental / avant-garde" vein, but somehow wound up formally studying Indian classical music for the last fifteen years, abandoning my piano for sitar and surbahar. Don't say I didn't warn you! Great to see everyone else's truly creative ideas and solutions. James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 12:27:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA31524; Sat, 22 May 1999 12:27:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:27:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990522123031.007a0e40@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 12:30:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut In-Reply-To: <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"7HxJg2.0.kX7.eejHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Many great ideas/suggestions on this thread! I wanted to mention something I'm sure many of you have discovered; it's interesting the way when one is stuck in that rut and exploring new and unusual ways to process the sound of your instrument, after doing so for a while you come back to the conventional approach with a fresh perspective, and find new ideas popping up for making use of straight, unprocessed sound! Best of both worlds, really! Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 15:18:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24070; Sat, 22 May 1999 15:18:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:18:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990522135710.008cbaa0@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:57:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990522123031.007a0e40@pop.ici.net> References: <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"W2ZTC2.0.3I5.IzlHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:30 PM 5/22/99 -0400, Tim N. wrote: >it's interesting the way when one is >stuck in that rut and exploring new and unusual ways to process the sound >of your instrument, after doing so for a while you come back to the >conventional approach with a fresh perspective, and find new ideas popping >up for making use of straight, unprocessed sound! EXACTLY!!! Presumably, that's why the Fender Rhodes is still so popular! Just check out the group "Incognito," whose doing a refreshing "London-ised" version of the mid-70's funk/fusion/Rhodes thing. =20 BTW--maybe if some of these bored suburban kids would take up music composition and looping, they might not be inclined to acquire those stupid assault weapons and concealed handguns. Doesn't an introductory-level multitrack cassette recorder, inexpensive guitar or keyboard, and cheap mic cost less than those silly weapons? =A1Hasta la revoluci=F3n! Michael. =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464=20 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D--=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=3D From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 17:20:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA08260; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:20:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:20:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37471A18.668A90AB@stic.net> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 15:56:57 -0500 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Shameless Plug!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"K4Puu2.0.cw.EYnHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Crevice, "Think of Pleasant Things" cd is now available at: www.theorchard.com. Now wasn't that brief!!!! James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 17:34:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA10552; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:34:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:34:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905222102.RAA12280@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: KIds.. Guns??...MUSIC !!!! Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:59:43 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7B9CM1.0.SM1.yjnHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > BTW--maybe if some of these bored suburban kids would take up music > composition and looping, they might not be inclined to acquire those stupid > assault weapons and concealed handguns. Doesn't an introductory-level > multitrack cassette recorder, inexpensive guitar or keyboard, and cheap mic > cost less than those silly weapons? > > ˇHasta la revolución! > > Michael. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= yeah -- well.. i don't need to point out which side of the political spectrum has ensured decades of cuts in school - art funds - music is pretty fast on the chopping block!! And, peculiarly - that 'wong' of the american political landscape also worships the @nd amendment a bit too much.. how 'bout the RIGHT TO FREE EXPRESSION!!!! AMendment Number ONE.. let's give kids a CREATIVE outlet... But no - we'll blame the TV and movies, rap music etc. wacky country. Music.. with Looping will save my brain. andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 22 17:37:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA11267; Sat, 22 May 1999 17:37:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:37:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990522172635.0079e760@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 17:26:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990522135710.008cbaa0@tamiu.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.19990522123031.007a0e40@pop.ici.net> <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ReQd21.0.P_1.B-nHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 01:57 PM 5/22/99 -0500, you wrote: Doesn't an introductory-level >multitrack cassette recorder, inexpensive guitar or keyboard, and cheap mic >cost less than those silly weapons? > But it doesn't stop there! Gear is an expensive addiction; what starts with a cassette 4 track soon leads to 8, then to the hard(drive) stuff. Just ONE more guitar, then I'll stop! If only those stompboxes weren't made in all those bright colors, so appealing to kids! What starts with an innocent fuzzbox leads straight to electronic heroin! Tim P.S.: Anyone got any spare change; I NEED a JamMan! $700 should do... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 02:07:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA28094; Sun, 23 May 1999 02:07:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:07:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: jfa@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904211637.LAA17179@mail.netdirect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 22:30:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Altman Subject: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area Resent-Message-ID: <"OvpNW3.0.AM5.DBvHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all, Much as I've enjoyed my EDP for the last few months I've sold my soul to Kyma and must adjust a little to keep my sanity, so: Echoplex Digital Pro w/ 16 Mb RAM (i.e. maxed out), and seven-button foot pedal. Used only in home studio, mint condition, manual and packing materials. Would prefer to trade for any of the following and deal direct in the Bay Area (I'm in N. Berkeley/El Cerrito): DP/4 or Pro Balanced patch bay(s) PC-1600x Other rack effects? Korg Prophecy Thanks, John Altman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Cacophony is at least as intricate an art as harmony. Basil Bunting From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 03:02:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA04296; Sun, 23 May 1999 03:02:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 03:02:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37476B5A.E8CF4B51@columbus.rr.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 02:44:12 +0000 From: Darrell Jones Reply-To: djones01@columbus.rr.com Organization: Intra Sites X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Tk7zX3.0.jK.oDwHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How much are you asking, I have a Digitech Studio Quad V2 in mint condition. Let me know. Lets make a deal. Darrell John Altman wrote: > Hello all, > > Much as I've enjoyed my EDP for the last few months I've sold my soul to > Kyma and must adjust a little to keep my sanity, so: > > Echoplex Digital Pro w/ 16 Mb RAM (i.e. maxed out), and seven-button foot > pedal. > > Used only in home studio, mint condition, manual and packing materials. > > Would prefer to trade for any of the following and deal direct in the Bay > Area (I'm in N. Berkeley/El Cerrito): > > DP/4 or Pro > Balanced patch bay(s) > PC-1600x > Other rack effects? > Korg Prophecy > > Thanks, > > John Altman > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Cacophony is at least as intricate an art as harmony. > > Basil Bunting From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 05:21:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA24436; Sun, 23 May 1999 05:21:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 05:21:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 05:04:22 -0400 From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut Sender: Andreas Willers To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199905230504_MC2-76B3-6F95@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"jqYaR1.0.rP5.xIyHt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yeah, just get down to basics: practise your axe preferably with and acoustic/unaltered sound and work on your phrasing, timing etc. New ideas= will follow inevitably..... Best, Andreas = From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 09:02:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA18429; Sun, 23 May 1999 09:02:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:02:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <14ed081.24794fd2@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 08:34:26 EDT Subject: bill frisell's 1st set last night To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"cY-VI3.0.te3.wN_Ht"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com great stuff from bill last night with lots of whacky looping via his eh 16 sec. delay. the trio was very organic and country/folky. very nice stuff. played his klein and a small jazz guitar i think is an anderson. lots of fun. wish we could have stayed for the 2nd set. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 10:00:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA25529; Sun, 23 May 1999 10:00:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:00:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000601bea525$d532c5c0$4496adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: re DIGITECH 8 second delay FS Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:09:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"G1Wp01.0.Rw5.NW0It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com another time machine sighting . . . on Harmony: FS: Digitech Time Machine RDS 8000 8 Sec. Delay Asking Price: US$200 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Hard to find, Digitech RDS 8000 rackmount delay unit Great for looping - 8 seconds max time Sampling, Triggering, and infinite repeat also chorus, Flanging, phasing, and slapback echo Unit is in mint shape. Microscopic scrapes near rack holes. This is the later (better) version of the time machines. Comes with original manual, power cord, and footswitch. This is an amazing piece of gear $200 plus shipping. Seller: Chris Jackson, E-mail: deadlimb@aol.com (Profile) Post Date: 5/22/99 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- go get it: Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 12:49:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA16881; Sun, 23 May 1999 12:49:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:49:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374784D3.82E03899@hom.net> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:32:20 -0400 From: Daniel Ferguson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut References: <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> <3.0.1.32.19990522135710.008cbaa0@tamiu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Z1AyW.0.Ib3.Ds2It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Michael, I think the weapons are probably cheaper and easier for kids to get . Daniel "Michael S. Yoder" wrote: > > > BTW--maybe if some of these bored suburban kids would take up music > composition and looping, they might not be inclined to acquire those stupid > assault weapons and concealed handguns. Doesn't an introductory-level > multitrack cassette recorder, inexpensive guitar or keyboard, and cheap mic > cost less than those silly weapons? > > ˇHasta la revolución! > > Michael. > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Dr. Michael S. Yoder > Assistant Professor of Geography, > Coordinator of Urban Studies > Texas A&M International University > 5201 University Blvd. > Laredo, TX 78041 > Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 > Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 14:20:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA29078; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:20:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:20:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990523170435.85756.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.116] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jamman help w/ cakewalk sync Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 10:04:35 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"_8dBy2.0.ng4.AL3It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi folks, I can't seem to get cakewalk to transmit or receive Midi clock. I'm pretty sure it's not the interface for my jamman controls my Rebirth fine. I've recently moved from CW3 to CW8 but I don't remember ever using clock messages to control anything. What i am trying to do it is take loops that I have dumped from the Jamdude to Cooledit(or Cakewalk, I'm just used to CE), then sync them to new loops. I realize life would be much simpler if I had a EDP with that UNDO function but I won't even try for a few months from what I understand about the status of new units. Basically that's the idea though, to be able add a loop then remove it if desired. Any help, much appreciated Dennis _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 19:47:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA12634; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:47:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:47:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990522172635.0079e760@pop.ici.net> References: <3.0.1.32.19990522135710.008cbaa0@tamiu.edu> <3.0.5.32.19990522123031.007a0e40@pop.ici.net> <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:42:48 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: PLEX BUYER W/ BIG $$$ Resent-Message-ID: <"Ehm-Q.0.Ei.0I8It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >WTB: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro > >Asking Price: US$N/A >Condition: Excellent >Age: N/A >Description: > > Will pay big bucks for an Echoplex Digital Pro in excellent > condition. Name your price and don't be shy > >Seller: JOHN TETI, >E-mail: teti@kear.tdsnet.com (Profile) >Post Date: 5/23/99 > OK Boys & Girls, Any body need $$$...looks like a ripe one... Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 19:53:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA13559; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:53:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:53:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374894CE.92B72F13@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:52:48 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Sound processing ideas / Stuck in a rut References: <001501bea464$eae7d7a0$49954e0c@u73x0> <3.0.1.32.19990522135710.008cbaa0@tamiu.edu> <374784D3.82E03899@hom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"FxPYe.0.4_.-P8It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's an idea: Purchase an instrument that you can't play. (check garage sales, flea markets) Don't use any traditional learning methods, just try an figure it out. When you gain some degree of "proficiency," try to incorporate the new instrument into your music. If you have any doubts about this method, buy a Residents album and behold... Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 23 22:25:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA03874; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:25:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:25:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: jfa@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199904211637.LAA17179@mail.netdirect.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 19:07:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Altman Subject: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area--TRADE PENDING Resent-Message-ID: <"IurS63.0.YG.dHBIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks to all who expressed interest but it looks like the package is spoken for. John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 01:28:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA04044; Mon, 24 May 1999 01:28:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:28:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:10:08 EDT Subject: german(?) 'industrial' music loop people To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"Y8nrh2.0.NQ.TzDIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com a while ago there was some mentioning of this , old school, real industrial(tools etc...) group real popular can anybody inform me as to what it was? the vocalist did some looping noise stuff as well(as was mentioned) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 02:58:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA15863; Mon, 24 May 1999 02:58:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 02:58:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:15:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: german(?) 'industrial' music loop people Resent-Message-ID: <"GVVda1.0.ua2.8vEIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >a while ago there was some mentioning of this , old school, real >industrial(tools etc...) group >real popular >can anybody inform me as to what it was? > >the vocalist did some looping noise stuff as well(as was mentioned) was it Einsterzende Neubaten? do I win something if I'm right? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 06:45:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA09494; Mon, 24 May 1999 06:45:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:45:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:38:28 -0400 From: Andreas Willers Subject: german(?) 'industrial' music loop people Sender: Andreas Willers To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199905240638_MC2-76D0-F7DE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"Pzznv3.0.862.SnIIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It was (is?) called EINST=DCRZENDE NEUBAUTEN ('new houses falling apart')= . Their singer Blixa Bargeld just held an art exhibition in Cologne displaying hundreds of sets of polaroid photo shots (2 to 5 per set) he h= ad taken from the hotel bathrooms he's been in in the last ten years ago. Probably sells like crazy... = From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 10:51:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA12572; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:51:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:51:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <014101bea5f0$e86db2f0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Kyma review; was Re: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:22:51 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"W5BlR1.0.EG2.m9MIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com So how's your soul been doin'? I've been really interested in the Kyma. How about a review of it? Maybe something for the Looper's Delight website? I see we have some decent info on the Akai Headrush now (thanks Kim and Alan!). Symbolic Sound Corp. has some good info but I'd like feedback on how easy (or not) the Kyma is to use as a live looper. Like, real-time, performance-oriented, ease-of-use, and other hyphenated view-points. Since you've used the EDP, I especially value your opinion comparing the two. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Altman To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 1:09 AM Subject: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area >Much as I've enjoyed my EDP for the last few months I've sold my soul to >Kyma and must adjust a little to keep my sanity, so: From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 12:04:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA25007; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:04:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:04:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:38:59 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199905241538.QAA07833@www.dircon.net> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "TAWalker" X-Host: 193.129.100.97 Subject: "Over The Bridge" CD available again Resent-Message-ID: <"gd4i1.0.W45.TANIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After a few weeks of technical problems at the server end, I'm pleased to report that it looks like "Over The Bridge", my CD of solo electric guitar with Boomerang, EBow etc., is once more available from my MP3.com page: www.mp3.com/timwalker/ "OTB" contains forty-five minutes of unadorned and (largely) unedited looping, loaded onto a mixed-mode disc containing both CD audio & MP3 versions of the tracks. MP3.com CDs have recently been revamped, with improved packaging (jewel case! inlay card!) and a multimedia interface for Windows & Mac; this has put the price up a bit, but I think $5.99 + shipping is still pretty good value... Just out of interest: I know about David Cooper Orton (www.mp3.com/davidcooperorton/), but are there any other LDers on MP3.com? Best wishes, Tim. --- Tim Walker tawalker@dircon.co.uk www.tawalker.dircon.co.uk "You can't always wait for a composer to write the music you want to play." (Derek Bailey) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 12:46:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA00443; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:46:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37497F8F.C6641153@vexcel.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:34:23 -0600 From: Larry Peterson Reply-To: larry@vexcel.com Organization: Vexcel Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EDP Foot Pedal References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"a1y_Z1.0.YB7.PvNIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings! I just found an EDP being blown out by my local music store. Does anybody have a foot pedal that they'd like to part with? Does anyone know where I can get one? How about a MIDI controller? Thanks - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 18:25:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA28743; Mon, 24 May 1999 18:25:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:25:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:10:36 -0300 Subject: EDP Gain/Noise From: "Sebastian Woscoboinik" To: loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <77271E85284.AAA41F8@un1.satlink.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"UvHEN.0.ay4.61SIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I'm a new users of EDP and I would like to know your experience about the BEST POSITION (more low noise possible) of INPUT and OUTPUT knoll. thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 19:52:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA11485; Mon, 24 May 1999 19:52:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:52:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 18:30:11 EDT Subject: Digitech Space Station To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 134 Resent-Message-ID: <"93gYY2.0.wF7.pCTIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone out there know what this actually does. The Digitech website isn't very informative. Some interesting filtering perhaps? Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database (newish section on undocumented features) http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 20:12:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA14933; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:12:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:12:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3749D827.5A59B91A@iamerica.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:52:24 -0500 From: Micah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: TC 2290 a request and a warning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bXTyl3.0.6Y.0dTIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all. I'm brand spanking new to this list. I've been through quite a bit of the archives and I couldn't find anything on this subject, so I'm gonna fire away. I just got off the phone with a tech from TC Electronics. He tells me that as of the end of 1998 TC has discontinued both the TC0050 and the TC0144 footcontrol units that are used with the 2290. The 0144 is the larger unit which has switches for the sampling/loop functions, dedicated switches for the 5 fx loops in the 2290, and some preset switching options as well. The 0050 is a 5 button footcontroller which theoretically (according to the manual) can be configured to perform any number of functions with proper programming of the 2290. (By the way these are not MIDI pedals, they connect with 1/4" plugs) In addition to this, he tells me that TC no longer offers the ME00 sampling time expansion units. In the past TC has offered 4 seconds of stock sampling time on the 2290 that can be upgraded in 4 second increments with purchase of an additional ME00. You could go all the way up to 32 seconds of CD quality sampling. I bought my 2290 a few years ago under the notion that I could upgrade and expand the unit as my needs and my pocketbook allowed. Now I'm stuck with only 4 seconds of time, and no footcontroler. This will not allow me to use the 2290 as a real-time looper in any capacity in a live performance. Let this be a warning for those out there who are thinking about picking up a 2290 for its realtime performance sampling/loop features. Right now the only way I can do any looping is through the front panel buttons. I'm a little pissed about this, because there is no mention of this on TCs website. Have they all but abandoned the 2290?? Is it now just essentially an expensive digital delay?? I do hope I'm wrong about all this, because the tech mentioned that the 5-switch 0050 footcontroller could only access the 5 individual FX loops. This COMPLETELY defies what the manual says, which states that each switch can be user defined through programming of the 2290. He also tried to convince me that the 0144 footcontrol did not allow for any specific sampling/loop functions. I didn't even bother to tell him that Doug Wimbish has been using his 0144 to start/stop realtime loops on his 2290 for YEARS (by the way you can see both of Doug's TC footconrtolers in the current issue of Bass Player). So maybe the guy had no clue what he was talking about. I hope so. The manual does mention something about building a 5 switch unit for use with the 2290, with specific resistor values for each switch. I may end up having to try to put one of these together. If it works I could at least salvage SOME live performance/loop function out of the unit. What I would rather do is locate a 0144, or an 0050 footcontrol unit, new or used. I would also desperately like to find a source for some memory expansion units. I hate it that I have this big ol expensive machine with all this cool potential, and I can't do anything with it because TC has pulled the rug out from under me. If all else fails I guess I'll buy a Boomerang and call it a day. Sorry for such a long message from a first timer, but I thought this might be of some interest/importance to those here. Micah From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 20:17:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA15701; Mon, 24 May 1999 20:17:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:17:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3749DF23.57BD190A@magelang.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:22:11 -0600 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Kyma review; was Re: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area References: <014101bea5f0$e86db2f0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kDKR52.0.wd1.rxTIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi John, I'd also like to hear how you're using Kyma for looping. I'll be leaving soon for an out-of-town trip, but I'll post my own experiences when I get back (5/31), then Kim is welcome to add them to the web site. Jim Dennis W. Leas wrote: How about a review of it? Maybe > something for the Looper's Delight website? I see we have some decent info > on the Akai Headrush now (thanks Kim and Alan!). Symbolic Sound Corp. has > some good info but I'd like feedback on how easy (or not) the Kyma is to use > as a live looper. Like, real-time, performance-oriented, ease-of-use, and > other hyphenated view-points. Since you've used the EDP, I especially value > your opinion comparing the two. > > Dennis Leas > ----------------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Altman > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 1:09 AM > Subject: EDP, 16mb, pedal F/T Bay Area > > >Much as I've enjoyed my EDP for the last few months I've sold my soul to > >Kyma and must adjust a little to keep my sanity, so: From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 00:00:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA18729; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:00:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:00:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <77271E85284.AAA41F8@un1.satlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:34:47 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP Gain/Noise Resent-Message-ID: <"O-JjV2.0.iL3.RXXIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi, I'm a new users of EDP and I would like to know your experience about >the BEST POSITION (more low noise possible) of INPUT and OUTPUT knoll. try output all to the left, you will have no noise at all. serious: its just like a tape machine: let the input LED flash red at peaks and be yellow most of the time. * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 00:03:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA19432; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:03:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:03:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374A1CDC.248BB496@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:45:33 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: EDP Mod Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"8I0lQ1.0.v-3.CoXIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all- I just finished completing the installation of 2 capacitors to my EDP to eliminate noise and must report it has worked perfectly! I can't say I am glad I had to do it but there is a certain sense of satisfaction- **Hey Kim, please disregard my former question regarding pin number- I went ahead assuming there was no serious risk involved if i used the wrong pin (like I know anything about that cryptic pc board!)** I am always amazed when looking closely at pc boards, they are 3 dimensional mazes that are amazing in form and amazing in that they produce the functions that they do- They design those boards on a software program now, but was it always that way?? I doub't it- it seems like it would take some serious thinking in the way of the old game "Simon", where you had to remember more and more of an overall pattern as you went along- but on a much more intricate level- Anyway folks- the mod works, oh- to make sure you have the correct "pin" count them from 1 to 8 from left to right while looking at the unit from the front. Take care, Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 24 23:53:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17672; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:53:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:53:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3749D827.5A59B91A@iamerica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:30:11 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: TC 2290 a request and a warning Resent-Message-ID: <"G-f7q3.0.w93.OTXIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Hi all. I'm brand spanking new to this list. I've been through >quite a bit of the archives and I couldn't find anything on this >subject, so I'm gonna fire away. Hi, welcome Micah > I'm a little pissed about this, because there is no mention of this >on TCs website. Have they all but abandoned the 2290?? Try to be fair: I bought my 2290 in 1985, so I do not think that any other digital equipment has been manufactured during such a long time (exept maybe the PCM70). Its because of the extremly high quality. > The manual does mention something about building a 5 switch unit for >use with the 2290, with specific resistor values for each switch. I may >end up having to try to put one of these together. Thats what I was gona say. Probably cheaper even. Just do it! For the memory you must know that tc depends on chips that are not manufactured any more for many years. They would have to make a new board with bigger chips for the old thing... As far as I remember they had a bigger memory (32sec?) that might still be available because its built with bigger chips (maybe 256kBx1?!). > Sorry for such a long message from a first timer yep, was too long ;-) Matthias * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 00:25:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA24907; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:25:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:25:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374A2C99.5B5BFB84@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:52:41 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Digitech Space Station: Cool References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GCJu.0.mD4.8vXIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, If you're looking for silky distortions, rich reverb and singing chorus, DON'T BUY A SPACE STATION! However, if you want you're guitar to sound like whales orbiting Pluto then this is the pedal for you! Basically, the Station does a lot of cool, but very non-traditional effects, ranging from Ring Modulator, to a wicked backwards delay. The nice thing is that you can alter an assigned perimeter with a pedal as you're playing. The bad thing is that it's a Digitech ROM box. No user programmability at all. I wouldn't make it my only gun, but I'd definitely put it in my arsenal (I did about a year ago). I used it last month for the sound track of a 3d animation that I did, where I fed my voice through it. Fun! Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 00:30:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA26297; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:30:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:30:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374A2E7D.5766CDA6@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:00:45 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Gain/Noise References: <77271E85284.AAA41F8@un1.satlink.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OKvhW1.0.iX4.g0YIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Gain. Very tricky subject. When you get right down to it, when you use the word gain, you're getting noise (in the analogue world) . The trick is to achieve something called "Unity Gain" (translation: No increase throughout the system) The best advise I can give you is to look at the lights, but trust your ears. Feed in as much signal as you can with out clipping the input. Boosting a weak signal is never a good plan. Same goes for out put. The best thing you can do is put out a test tone of a known db level and track it's level through the system. That gets a little tricky, as few pro-sumer gear produces such calibrated tones. If anyone knows of such things, let me know. Also, where did you get your EDP? Are they being sold as new gear? Did you get it used, and if so, how much? Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 01:09:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA01089; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:09:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:09:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374A28F1.A893D746@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:37:11 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Foot Pedal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9LX0c3.0.Ew6.-ZYIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Larry wrote: > Greetings! > > I just found an EDP being blown out by my local music store... hey kim, is there something in the manual about this? i mean, won't this void your warranty? lance g. :-) ps: sorry for the personal send, larry (forgot to check address...) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 05:30:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA01967; Tue, 25 May 1999 05:30:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 05:30:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 05:10:47 -0400 From: Andreas Willers Subject: TC 2290 a request and a warning Sender: Andreas Willers To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199905250510_MC2-76F4-932C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"XeIVM3.0.gp7.macIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the 2290 has been around for ages and they didn't make any upgrades since= I don't know when: no backwards delay, no multiple loops etc. Still it has the best sound quality of anything I tried, even it's clipping is quite smooth and musical sounding! tc is growing rapidly and that might be the reason their current tec's in the US don't know much about the 2290 any more, it's prehistoric. I happen to have a footcontroller of the 0050-kind flying around that I might not need any more (my 2290 served as part of a trade-in for a '50s Les Paul, sub). It starts and stops the loop with one button, the other four can be programmed at will to do any sequence of front-button-presses= on the unit (via special #'s, you'll need the list for that). I'll look f= or it in the rummage box today. Although I'm over here in Germany, if you're interested, send me a mail directly, best, Andreas = = From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 06:30:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA09239; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:30:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:30:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374A28F1.A893D746@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 02:55:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Foot Pedal Resent-Message-ID: <"RM7Av.0.EH1.RDdIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:37 PM -0700 5/24/99, lance glover wrote: >Larry wrote: > >> Greetings! >> >> I just found an EDP being blown out by my local music store... > >hey kim, > >is there something in the manual about this? i mean, won't this void >your warranty? > yes, you should try to keep explosives a reasonable distance from the echoplex. Most professionals recommend placing them by the keyboard player, as that's the least likely spot for groupies to be hanging around if an accident occurs. You can always get another keyboardist. haha, but seriously, selling a looping device below maximum price is in fact illegal in most places. This store should be reported! You can make your own pedal pretty easy, info is on the echoplex page: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/echoplex.html There's also info there on about what kind of midi pedal to get. Check the "pedal tutorial." kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 06:30:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA09244; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:30:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:30:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 05:46:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers Subject: Re: EDP Mod In-Reply-To: <374A1CDC.248BB496@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"t4rGP1.0.tK1.dEdIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, I missed the details of the mod! I don't think I've seen this problem with my plex, but it'd be good to add to the old folder just in case. I lay out circuit boards as one of my careers. Yes it is a bit easier with software. In the "old" days, I used a special tape and mylar film, stacking up layers of film for board layers, working on a light table with an xacto knife. You used to have to refer to the schematic(s) a lot to keep track of what's connected where. Now the software does that for you. It is a rather enjoyable task for me anyway. An almost artistic aspect of the design process. Stew Benedict From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 08:15:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA21514; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:15:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:15:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:00:53 EDT Subject: Re: TC 2290 a request and a warning To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"NQ8I13.0.Oo4.e4fIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-05-24 23:53:07 EDT, you write: << For the memory you must know that tc depends on chips that are not manufactured any more for many years. They would have to make a new board with bigger chips for the old thing... As far as I remember they had a bigger memory (32sec?) that might still be available because its built with bigger chips (maybe 256kBx1?!) >> The Univ. of Iowa has a surplus shop that gets rid of tons of old computer equipment (among other things) every month. I find my memory chips for older gear there. Last month I picked up ten 286 and 386 motherboards loaded with various types memory for $5. And three external SCSI CDROM drives for $2 a piece (two worked fine, the other, I used the enclosure by replacing the shot CDROM drive with a 1 gig hard disk drive for my JS-30 Sampler). Perhaps there's such a thing near you? Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 08:24:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA22971; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:24:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:24:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 06:59:49 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Space Station, 2290 comments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"qNRUZ2.0.nm4.d3fIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think the reason the 2290 has so many things discontinued on it is that the box effectively uses memory chips that are no longer being manufactured. It appears TC has moved on to smaller, more powerful boxes (Finalizer, G-Force, etc.) but at the same time, we know that Fripp has several 2290s maxed out - perhaps a TC dealer has one of the upgrades in stock but perhaps forgotten somewhere. The Space Station is a very cool effect and I want one (my wife keeps going: "Space Station? They cost hundreds of millions of dollars just to keep in orbit, we can't afford that!" [ha, ha]). Yes, it does have ring modulation and backwards guitar fx, but it also has the waycool string pad swell, the weird pixelization effect, and the sample and hold guitar effect, a built in tuner and I think it would work greatly with the Lexicon Vortex effect (another misunderstood effect). When I was using it at the local music store, I was playing weird chords with the string pad effect and it sounded just like Allan Holdsworth's string pad work on "The Un Merry Go Round." I'd gathered a small crowd just playing with the thing. Then I played some single note stuff thru the pixelization patch and it sounded like some techno rhythm guitar part, but live. I finished with the sample and hold part, playing robotic eighth notes and sounded like some Tangerine Dream outtake from the early days. I handed the guitar to a kid on my way out and he switched the pedal to the sample and hold and starting playing this really fast staccato stuff and the guitar started making this weird POP-POP-POP-WHOP-WHOP WHOP sound that made me laugh out loud. He switched to the string pad part and started playing high position three note chords and it sounded like a demented harpsichord since he was muting stuff and playing real fast. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 10:23:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA08994; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:23:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:23:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374ABDF5.DDBAEA1B@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:12:55 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Illegal? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vSt0k.0.Ui1.Y-gIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, As a retail veteran, I've got to call you on this one, Kim. Selling a product at any price is not illegal. Price fixing is illegal. There are laws against "dumping" products into a market where the manufacturer takes a loss to undercut a competitor, but I don't really understand the complexity of international trade. Many manufacturers claim that you have to sell their products for a set price, or suffer legal consequences. This is false. The only thing they can do is pull your exclusive dealership. When you see a retail ad that says, "Call for best pricing!" it is usually because the retailer has a co-op advertising deal with the manufacturer where the retailer agrees not to advertise the product for a certain price in exchange for money toward advertising their product. This isn't to protect the consumer, but to protect the retailer. On the other hand, the mark up in retail musical instruments and gear is actually pretty low. Often 10-20%. What retailers do to make money is to sell accessories, and service. Large retailers make money on "volume, volume, volume!" Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 11:05:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA16184; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:05:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:05:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rmenger@mail.groupz.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905250709.DAA17134@rosy.yourwebhost.com> References: <199905250709.DAA17134@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:50:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Richard Menger Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <"Xh-J81.0.mI3.lYhIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Attachment converted: thing 1:Loopers-Delight-d Digest 38 >(TEXT/CSOm) (0001AD9D) hi damnit thwre is he damn inderlined text and why the hell does it happen>?/ xcvbcb, m,v mvn mcvnm,nbklidrgifdsyg7ursiufuadoasopidpo kjl;kl;kok odskjvopjdsiouv80esy08fy8yihfisdjvhidsujiIuiuij Iu ijiUioujiIJIOJIJIJIJIJi jofpdvjpoj ljdovj bit e me From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 11:58:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA25410; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:58:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:58:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <33b22b57.247c191d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 11:17:49 EDT Subject: Re: Digitech Space Station To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac sub 85 Resent-Message-ID: <"YqLqj3.0.pS4.9zhIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/25/99 12:52:25 AM, Andy wrote: <> I got one and love it. It's got variations on each of several basic effects (let's see if I can remember 'em all): A kind of synthy symphonic string sound; Quite raw ring modulation; Twangy resonance like you'd get from high-feedback chorusing or flanging; VERY nice Reverse delays. There are NO parameters to adjust, but each variation patch reacts differently to the foot pedal. There may be other algorithms, but I only use the reverse patches. In fact, I always keep mine set on patch #10, which is bypass in pedal up, plain old 100%-wet reverse in pedal down, and does really nice whammy-bar-like low-pitch tricks as you sweep the pedal. That one patch is worth the admission for me, since I can get all the other fx in the pedal more flexibly and tweakably from other units, but nothing that sounds quite like this...it's a kind of morphing between pitch shifting and reverse delay. David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 13:10:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA08817; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:10:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:10:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Alberto Savoia" To: Subject: RE: EDP For Sale. Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:02:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000901bea6d0$82fed620$0f00a8c0@velogic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <"T08QR1.0.aQ1._RjIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am very interested. How much? Thanks, Alberto -----Original Message----- From: Hawkeye255@aol.com [mailto:Hawkeye255@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 5:16 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EDP For Sale. I have my fully loaded EDP with pedal and manual for sale. Not being used presently. Works perfectly. Open to offers. Have not advertised anywhere else. Thanks, Bill 'Hawkeye' Reiter 319-895-8410 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 13:46:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA17186; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:46:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:46:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374ADB66.3190B6B8@minds-eye.org> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:18:31 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: MIDI help References: <000901bea6d0$82fed620$0f00a8c0@velogic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bjxi_1.0.bh2.BkjIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, first time posting to the list (which is quite interesting so far). Would anyone like to help a complete MIDI novice with understanding some of the basics of using Midi control with rack effects for guitar? I'm primarily using a Digitech TSR 24 and any help (web sites, advice, etc (off list I suppose)) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 14:29:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA27167; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:29:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:29:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <039701bea6d8$79bb0900$c5b854ce@mark.asisoftware.com> From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: Subject: Re: MIDI help Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:00:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"HPgCr1.0.qr4.KJkIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check out Craig Anderton's book, "Multi-effects." MK -----Original Message----- From: Kevin To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 1:46 PM Subject: MIDI help >Hello, > >first time posting to the list (which is quite interesting so far). Would >anyone like to help a complete MIDI novice with understanding some of the >basics of using Midi control with rack effects for guitar? I'm primarily using >a Digitech TSR 24 and any help (web sites, advice, etc (off list I suppose)) >would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks > >Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 16:06:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA15903; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:06:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:06:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B0186.80386D4E@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:01:10 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Mod References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"KPQ4-1.0.IW3.r4mIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Stew- check the archives for the mod- it was last week- if you can't find it let me know- Also, board design with schematics and an exacto sounds nutty! ;) Cliff Stew Benedict wrote: > Hey, I missed the details of the mod! I don't think I've seen this > problem with my plex, but it'd be good to add to the old folder just in > case. I lay out circuit boards as one of my careers. Yes it is a bit > easier with software. In the "old" days, I used a special tape and mylar > film, stacking up layers of film for board layers, working on a light > table with an xacto knife. You used to have to refer to the schematic(s) > a lot to keep track of what's connected where. Now the software does > that for you. It is a rather enjoyable task for me anyway. An almost > artistic aspect of the design process. > > Stew Benedict From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 16:57:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27450; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:57:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:57:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B07E8.AC815C03@iamerica.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:28:24 -0500 From: Micah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: TC 2290 a request and a warning References: <199905250510_MC2-76F4-932C@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rmQJM.0.iW5.HbmIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I happen to have a footcontroller of the 0050-kind flying around that I > might not need any more (my 2290 served as part of a trade-in for a '50s > Les Paul, sub). It starts and stops the loop with one button, the other > four can be programmed at will to do any sequence of front-button-presses > on the unit (via special #'s, you'll need the list for that). I'll look for > it in the rummage box today. Thanks Andreas that would be wonderful. Just name your price. This will help me out tremendously. Micah From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 17:23:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA00354; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:23:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:23:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990525211741.35516.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [134.174.151.238] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Frisell @ the Vanguard Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:17:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"I7R9j2.0.uo7.OEnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I caught the first set on Thursday night, Frisell used a lot of looping. He had his EH 16 Second Delay resting on-top of his foam clad Lexicon Lxp-5 all within easy reach on a stool. He tapped in and out and tweaked levels and reversed loops with his hands (no dancing involved). He was focused on capturing motifs from his solos and then playing against them or bringing them back later. He seemed vary much at home with the EH and was able to create some very interesting and musical effects with it. One particular moment which stands out; is when he brought back a particularly nasty bluesy lick ladden with tubescreamer (that's right no RAT)after a long quiet section on a dimminuendo which might have been interpreted as a fade out. The nasty lick (playing back in reverse mode) kicked the song back in and he launched into a raunchy outro solo. The achieved effect was clearly amusing to Bill. His performance is a testimony to the value of being intimately connected to all instruments in one's signal chain. There are other devices which might have been more efficient but he has clearly spent a lot of time developing his own techinique for manipulating his chosen foil and from that kind of intimate knowledge one always yields more original and musical effects. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 17:23:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA00377; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:23:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:23:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B1143.2E902A41@iamerica.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:08:20 -0500 From: Micah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: TC 2290 a request and a warning References: <199905250510_MC2-76F4-932C@compuserve.com> <374B07E8.AC815C03@iamerica.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"q175w1.0.3c7.eAnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry about that last message. That was meant to go to Andreas personally. The "reply" button can be dangerous.Micah From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 17:56:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA07303; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:56:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:56:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B1AB4.3A43@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:48:36 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com CC: analogue@hyperreal.org Subject: New Roland Guitar Synth site! References: <199905250510_MC2-76F4-932C@compuserve.com> <374B07E8.AC815C03@iamerica.net> <374B1143.2E902A41@iamerica.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jRhmb2.0.gW1.vjnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks to many people on this list as well as some old Roland info I've finally been able to pull together a comprehensive site on the early analog Roland guitar *and* bass synthesizers. I've created a page dedicated to the GK1 and BK1 series units including the controllers and bass and guitar floor units. Right now there is a gallery including the main three units (GR300, GR100, GR33b), configuration and pickups of the guitars (G202,G303,G505,G707), and some other pictures and info. I've also included links to old Roland literature, larger pictures, and more indepth info from other pages I've found along my way. I put this site together as a one stop type of place to find out about this particular line of instruments. I hope to add some more info from old RUG magazines and perhaps tips, tricks, and samples. It is not meant to replace other sites but offer a full view of the guitars and basses avalable as well as some player hints. I've been studying this line for almost two years and have come across misinformation and bits and pieces so often I decided to try and pull it all together and help set the record straight. Also, as a bass player I've been more than frustrated with the lack of info on the best bass synth ever made (IMO of course!) the GR33b. Please stop by for a visit and let me know what you think. Of course all contributions and ideas welcome! I still need pictures of some of the other guitar controllers and I'm trying to track down a pic of the G88 and rumored B33 bass. I'll also be adding more text along the way but it goes online this evening. Start here and enjoy! - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/guitsyn.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 18:02:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA08856; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:02:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:02:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Mark Sottilaro'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Digitech Space Station: Cool Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:55:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"98tf53.0.3v1.fpnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I definately agree, there are no other effect boxes for this little money that give you so many totally warped and weird effects. 10x better than a pedalboardful of the rediculously priced and limited electro-harmonix re-issues. there, I said it -- now I can go home quietly... David Kirkdorffer UNDO -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro [mailto:msottila@mailbox.syr.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 12:53 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Digitech Space Station: Cool Hey, If you're looking for silky distortions, rich reverb and singing chorus, DON'T BUY A SPACE STATION! However, if you want you're guitar to sound like whales orbiting Pluto then this is the pedal for you! Basically, the Station does a lot of cool, but very non-traditional effects, ranging from Ring Modulator, to a wicked backwards delay. The nice thing is that you can alter an assigned perimeter with a pedal as you're playing. The bad thing is that it's a Digitech ROM box. No user programmability at all. I wouldn't make it my only gun, but I'd definitely put it in my arsenal (I did about a year ago). I used it last month for the sound track of a 3d animation that I did, where I fed my voice through it. Fun! Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 18:08:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA10210; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:08:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:08:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:34:12 EDT Subject: Re: Frisell @ the Vanguard To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"l_x_13.0.xh.0UnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i totally agree with sean. i saw bill's 1st set on saturday night and i thought what mastery he had over his looping. i would not want to have messed with the eh by hand but it totally worked for him. ( i like doing the dance with my feet!) he sounded and played great and both my wife and i had a fantastic time. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 18:09:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA10447; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:09:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:09:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990525215139.8614.rocketmail@web126.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: Space Station, 2290 comments To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"84nD31.0.mV1.njnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com can you tell me who makes the space station? Dan --- Todd Madson wrote: > I think the reason the 2290 has so many things > discontinued on it is > that the box effectively uses memory chips that are > no longer being > manufactured. It appears TC has moved on to > smaller, more powerful > boxes (Finalizer, G-Force, etc.) but at the same > time, we know that > Fripp has several 2290s maxed out - perhaps a TC > dealer has one of > the upgrades in stock but perhaps forgotten > somewhere. > > The Space Station is a very cool effect and I want > one (my wife keeps > going: "Space Station? They cost hundreds of > millions of dollars just > to keep in orbit, we can't afford that!" [ha, ha]). > > Yes, it does have ring modulation and backwards > guitar fx, but it > also has the waycool string pad swell, the weird > pixelization effect, > and the sample and hold guitar effect, a built in > tuner and I think it > would work greatly with the Lexicon Vortex effect > (another misunderstood > effect). > > When I was using it at the local music store, I was > playing weird > chords with the string pad effect and it sounded > just like Allan > Holdsworth's string pad work on "The Un Merry Go > Round." I'd > gathered a small crowd just playing with the thing. > Then I played > some single note stuff thru the pixelization patch > and it sounded > like some techno rhythm guitar part, but live. I > finished with > the sample and hold part, playing robotic eighth > notes and sounded > like some Tangerine Dream outtake from the early > days. > > I handed the guitar to a kid on my way out and he > switched the pedal > to the sample and hold and starting playing this > really fast staccato > stuff and the guitar started making this weird > POP-POP-POP-WHOP-WHOP > WHOP sound that made me laugh out loud. He switched > to the string pad > part and started playing high position three note > chords and it sounded > like a demented harpsichord since he was muting > stuff and playing real > fast. > > Todd Madson > Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, > BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. > http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 18:13:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA11529; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:13:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:13:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003201bea6f9$cbd11f60$0d954e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Pity the poor keyboard player! Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:58:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"e2tqx2.0.wk1.FnnIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim wrote: >yes, you should try to keep explosives a reasonable distance from the >echoplex. Most professionals recommend placing them by the keyboard player, >as that's the least likely spot for groupies to be hanging around if an >accident occurs. Ain't that the truth! After years of frustration from sitting behind a drab old piano, watching all the string players (and even the occasional drummer) get all the ladies, I said "Enough is enough!" Actually it wasn't even close to "enough," it was more like "too little too late" (except that "too little" was a gross overstatement). What I really said was "Not getting any is killing me!" So I abandoned the piano, switched over to the sitar and as soon as I could bend five notes on one fret I had more groupies than I'd ever had hot meals. I advise all frustrated keyboard players to do likewise. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 18:37:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA26451; Tue, 25 May 1999 08:49:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:49:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:16:02 EDT Subject: EDP For Sale. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"AC0v23.0.EJ5.xIfIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have my fully loaded EDP with pedal and manual for sale. Not being used presently. Works perfectly. Open to offers. Have not advertised anywhere else. Thanks, Bill 'Hawkeye' Reiter 319-895-8410 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 18:39:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA19821; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:09:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:09:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990506101624.0084fe60@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:16:24 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Re: Input gain structure In-Reply-To: <199905061049.DAA25649@toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"oKdPm.0.uU2.QBRCt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mouser electronics lists 5% carbon resistors at 0.22 each and 1% metal film resistors at 0.11 each. Surprising, no? At 06:50 AM 5/6/99 -0400, you wrote: > As >per the answer in >the FAQ, I'll be changing the resistors involved, but I have a question: >Must I use the suggested 1% >metal film resistors, or will 5% metal film resistors do the trick? My >elecronic repairman >says he is quite certain that the 5% will work, and wants to try them >because he has them available >and they are cheaper. > >Thanks, Daniel > > > . ........................................................................... Be the change you want to see in the world. -Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:06:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA20989; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:41:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 03:41:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199904290722.QAA11475@smtp01.mail.gol.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:23:50 +0000 Subject: wanted digiteck PMC 10 midi controler From: "clay saunders" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"o1hHy3.0.iY4.4a0At"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wanted to buy Digiteck PMC 10 midi foot controler. If you have one or know where one is please drop me a message. clay From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:06:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17413; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:10:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:10:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3728D1A6.77CFE6D3@texas.net> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:39:53 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: MY OWN LABEL References: <199904271906.NAA01729@servidor.unam.mx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vGAmN3.0.s53.vVHAt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i'm interested in this, too. please post any info to the list or include me in the reply. thanks. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:07:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA16221; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:37:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:37:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C66E7.4BA52F5F@vexcel.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:09:43 -0600 From: Larry Peterson Reply-To: larry@vexcel.com Organization: Vexcel Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boomerang wanted! References: <70CA3F163AFED21197F100805FBB030F32BFFD@whi_exchange.malcolmpirnie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Ap7M42.0.6J2.CN6Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings! I got to try one of these beasts a couple of weeks ago and I want one! I've called my local music stores and they either don't know what I'm talking about or they "have a few on order". Can anyone help me locate one? Thanks - Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:07:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA30358; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:43:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:43:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Why no power switch on Vortex?website Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:12:55 -0700 Message-ID: <002501be9d85$5e6dfbf0$26ee8fd1@linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007b01be9d80$9acf3c80$4696adce@satellite> Resent-Message-ID: <"CG3aU2.0.vC5.E-pEt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >Andy: > >don't make us beg ;) > >Tom Lambrecht >hideo@concentric.net To late... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.... bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:08:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA18109; Mon, 10 May 1999 05:18:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:18:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: camao@camsg001.camb.scee.sony.co.uk Message-ID: <3736984D.C18EF7FF@scee.sony.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:26:53 +0100 From: Os X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: gig plug (UK) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"l4hNR.0.T73.VYfDt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Much looping will be happening this Thursday (13th): band: Darkroom (guitar, keyboard/tapes, voice) venue: The Club Room (Queen's Arms, Donegal St, Angel, Islington, London) for more details: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/ or: http://www.l-m-c.org.uk/nav_index.html thankyou for your attention. cheers, -- Os os@scee.sony.co.uk os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:09:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA31846; Sat, 8 May 1999 04:47:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 04:47:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001001beab3d$138b3ec0$c396d1ab@stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: References: <1272-3733D2FE-11220@postoffice-612.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: tomatoes Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:10:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <"apeUM.0.mq6.98_Ct"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is that a joke? This off-topic stuff is getting out of hand. -Jesse ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Arbogast Arbogast To: Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 2:00 AM Subject: tomatoes > i would like to know when is the best ime to plant and get best results > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:10:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA16312; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:38:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:38:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <373C6552.D345ECF4@miravant.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:02:58 -0700 From: Alistair Wilson Organization: Miravant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: unsubscribe Re: tomatoes References: <3.0.5.32.19990513200740.007a2ab0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sOkdU3.0.SC2.dL6Ft"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com unsubscribe me please Tim Nelson wrote: > For the secret teachings revealing the esoteric connection between looping > and gardening, click here>>> > > At 09:46 AM 5/13/99 -0700, you wrote: > >There is really no bad time to plant tomatoes > >except during the winter and depending on where > >you live. Use pesticide and wire bracing. > >If you can, grow them in an indoor arboretum > >to avoid insects or worms. > > > >Now if you want to know how to loop the tomatoes > >into your Echoplex device, I suggest extreme caution > >and consult your local loop doctor before commencing. > > > >Curbie From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:11:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA32710; Sat, 15 May 1999 16:45:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:45:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990515202551.87750.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [206.216.80.8] From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Homewreckers Needed! Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:25:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"8UDcr.0.TL7.nXTFt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Patrick- Thank you for your response to this amazing plan. However I think you missed the point. Let me break it down for you. 1. Send ME gear. 2. You then get thanked by ME. See how simple? Remember. You can't spell Buck without U. Kisses, Buck >Hi Buck, > >Thanks for the good laugh. Can I get in on the bottom floor and have some >gear sent to me also? Maybe I could even take all the gear sent and then >put it on e-bay and make enough to quit my day job.... > >Patrick > > > > http://www.fingerpaint.net > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:12:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA13541; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:50:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:50:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000401be9bf0$18a86ce0$a2b8aacc@seanix> From: "Steven Perry" To: Subject: Re: Homeworkers Needed! Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:51:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"c6N3m2.0.WD.mU9Et"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Now, are these pitch envelopes or amplitude envelopes? -----Original Message----- From: toukol@mindspring.com To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 4:42 PM Subject: Homeworkers Needed! >Dear Future Associate, > >You Can Work At Home & Set Your Own Hours. Start earning Big >Money in a short time > > NO Newspaper Advertising! > >Your job will be to stuff and mail envelopes for our company. 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Highland Blvd >Ste #F104-902 >Phoenix, Az 85016 > >Name_____________________________________________________ > >Address___________________________________________________ > >City____________________________________ State______________ > >Zip Code________________ > >Telephone Number(s)_________________________________________ > >E-mail Address______________________________________________ > > > >For all orders, please allow seven (7) days for delivery and up >to 10 days. Cash and Money Orders will result in faster shipping >of your package. > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 19:25:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA11820; Tue, 25 May 1999 19:25:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:25:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <1fb870eb.247c86d7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:05:59 EDT Subject: Re: Space Station, 2290 comments To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"OrzH93.0.d42.CroIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/25/99 11:24:16 AM Mid-Atlantic Daylight Time, crash@waste.org writes: << and the sample and hold guitar effect, >> really? which patch?........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 20:28:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA23321; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:28:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:28:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:12:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Digitech Space Station In-Reply-To: <33b22b57.247c191d@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"skGc-1.0.r25.unpIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Has anyone tried this with a bass? Does it keep any of the bottom end? Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 20:45:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA26790; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:45:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@annihilist.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <374A1CDC.248BB496@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:39:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Mod Resent-Message-ID: <"AFdGb3.0.fD6.vAqIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 2:46 AM -0700 5/25/99, Stew Benedict wrote: > Hey, I missed the details of the mod! I don't think I've seen this >problem with my plex, but it'd be good to add to the old folder just in >case. it wasn't posted. I'm going to put it on the website, I'll let you know when it's there. For a lot of units it was done at the factory before it shipped. So if you don't have the problem, you probably don't need to worry about it. >I lay out circuit boards as one of my careers. Yes it is a bit >easier with software. In the "old" days, I used a special tape and mylar >film, stacking up layers of film for board layers, working on a light >table with an xacto knife. You used to have to refer to the schematic(s) >a lot to keep track of what's connected where. Now the software does >that for you. It is a rather enjoyable task for me anyway. An almost >artistic aspect of the design process. They used to do ICs this way too! PCB design is a bit of an artistic talent. Takes a certain type of creativity to visualize the best ways for all the traces to route around the board. On the complicated stuff I do these days, practically all of the PCB gets hand routed (instead of autorouted). The layout designers we use do seem to be a bit arty, and have this great intuition for sorting a lot of it out in their mind as they go. I've heard many say it's a lot like doing a painting. It's all done on software programs, of course, but without the human involvement it's a disaster. the autorouters are no substitute... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 20:58:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA29055; Tue, 25 May 1999 20:58:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:58:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B4077.DE69507D@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:29:44 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Frisell @ the Vanguard References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"gm26l2.0._h5.a0qIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone get any tape of the Frisell shows? Let me know off list- I have items to trade if there is interest... Cliff PJBMHB@aol.com wrote: > i totally agree with sean. i saw bill's 1st set on saturday night and i > thought what mastery he had over his looping. i would not want to have messed > with the eh by hand but it totally worked for him. ( i like doing the dance > with my feet!) he sounded and played great and both my wife and i had a > fantastic time. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 21:30:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA01941; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:30:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:30:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990525213241.007a2e20@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:32:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Digitech Space Station In-Reply-To: References: <33b22b57.247c191d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"syOlk2.0.oH.psqIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:12 PM 5/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >Has anyone tried [a Space Station] with a bass? Does it keep any of the bottom end? > > Kevin I plugged my Precision into a friend's Space Station and while a few of the patches were pretty interesting, most of them really didn't sound too good. The low end lost its "ooomph", and the high end seems to need the overtones of guitar to sound right. I'll bet it would sound good with a baritone guitar, though... Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 21:41:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA04371; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:41:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:41:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B1896.182FABBB@columbus.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:39:34 +0000 From: Darrell Jones Reply-To: djones01@columbus.rr.com Organization: Intra Sites X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP For Sale. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fSqqP2.0.6v.f2rIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How much are you asking, I'm a serious buyer. Darrell Hawkeye255@aol.com wrote: > I have my fully loaded EDP with pedal and manual for sale. Not being used > presently. Works perfectly. Open to offers. Have not advertised anywhere > else. > > Thanks, > Bill 'Hawkeye' Reiter > 319-895-8410 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 22:59:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA17169; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:59:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:59:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <374A1CDC.248BB496@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:47:39 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP autopsy Resent-Message-ID: <"CaBSD.0.dK3.DxrIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Clifford wrote: >I just finished completing the installation of 2 capacitors to my EDP to >eliminate noise and must report it has worked perfectly! >I can't say I am glad I had to do it but there is a certain sense of >satisfaction- sounds nice... is it a bit more yours now, at least? ;-) Sorry for the inconvenience anyway! >They design those boards on a >software program now, but was it always that way?? I doub't it- it seems >like it would take some serious thinking in the way of the old game >"Simon", where you had to remember more and more of an overall pattern >as you went along - but on a much more intricate level- I dont know Simon, but yes, there are several layers of interdependent patterns that you develop, remember and forget: - the functionalities - the hard ware signal flow - the hard ware physical layout - the software - the business (partners, suppliers, customers...) While developping you go into them one by one and can remember a lot of it while working on it. Then it fades again, and next time you have to treat it, you have to spend some time relearning the patterns. And now that I only live in the software pattern for years, it got so complex that I do not manage any more to keep it all at once in brain. So I have to search through it regarding some aspect, resolve that problem and forget those parts again to learn another. Its fun reading a bit of code you wrote some month ago just as if it was someone elses... Stew Benedict answered: >I lay out circuit boards as one of my careers. Yes it is a bit >easier with software. In the "old" days, I used a special tape and mylar >film, stacking up layers of film for board layers, working on a light My first products were one sided, which is really nice to handle and I loved to work with the black tape, but its complex, since you cannot jump to the other side, the only way to cross trails is "under" the components - a strategy that the computer never learned to design automatically. The computers strategy is simple: horizontal on one side and vertical on the other. >table with an xacto knife. You used to have to refer to the schematic(s) >a lot to keep track of what's connected where. Now the software does >that for you. It is a rather enjoyable task for me anyway. An almost >artistic aspect of the design process. Yes, I remember the long nights for the LOOP delay layout as a coloured trip! The program puts the trails during hours, one after the other, trying various options and since the parts are yellow, the upper side red and the lower blue its like a big city trafic labirinth. Then when the process stops, you see where you have free space and where it lacks. You move the parts a little and run it all again, turn the light out, put some music and watch the trails appearing through the smoke... Once its done you still work another some days to simplify and correct what the soft cannot resolve and you end up knowing the meaning each trail, which is helpfull to make the prototype work. Then when you run the first little software routines to test, you can "see" the bits circulating on the trails you layed out and verify with the scope that all those impulses described in the manuals are really there, and not very clean (as a master said: there is no digital electronics, really) - I loved it! Is this OT? I think users could profit from insights about how their tools grew. There is so much fear and fascination and anger and love for the "cold" or "phantasmic" digital machines, while they are built by humans and contain emotions and inspirations just like analog ones and mechanics before - a bit more hidden, I admit, but thats evolution, things get more complex and pioneers always have been overadmired by a growing minority and rejected by a decreasing majority - while its just another job. In the middle ages they were burnt, so I feel just fine if some thirst for tape hiss... ;-) So enjoy your FeedbackLED noise. Maybe it will be the reason why in 10 years the kids will search for an old Echoplex DP with a real human error! ;-) Keep you inner ears open and play out what comes in! Matthias * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 23:42:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA24930; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:42:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:42:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <356A441A.371D@pop.interport.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:25:01 -0500 From: John + Diane Parada Reply-To: jparada@changenow.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Digitech Space Station: Cool References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YevSS1.0.Zq5.snsIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i' ve had lots of fun with my space station. best 200 bucks i've spent in a long time..btw anyone know anything about the zoom gfx multi effects for gtr w/ a built in drum machine. perusing this months gtr plyr and saw a nice 2 page ad. i have some zoom stuff and am impressed w/ bang for the buck.. any enlightened responses?...jp From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue May 25 23:55:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27372; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:55:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:55:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <356A4577.7C01@pop.interport.net> Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 23:30:51 -0500 From: John + Diane Parada Reply-To: jparada@changenow.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe Re: tomatoes References: <3.0.5.32.19990513200740.007a2ab0@pop.ici.net> <373C6552.D345ECF4@miravant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bOpKd1.0.Zr5.8osIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey, hey, hey!!!! what kind of tomates are you growing? you're gonna get us arrested. that stuff is illegal here in the states. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 01:10:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA10341; Wed, 26 May 1999 01:10:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:10:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374B8F54.B9DB7826@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:06:14 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EDP X File. References: <199905250510_MC2-76F4-932C@compuserve.com> <374B07E8.AC815C03@iamerica.net> <374B1143.2E902A41@iamerica.net> <374B1AB4.3A43@voicenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RpMhY3.0.0F2.44uIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK, what gives? Over the last couple of weeks I've made several requests for EDP availability info, and have heard not a peep. I've never seen one, but I want to believe! Is Gibson making them? I've surfed and surfed, but no sign of 'em. I seem to remember my sister once using one, but after that she was never seen again. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 02:43:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA25985; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:43:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:43:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374B8F54.B9DB7826@mailbox.syr.edu> References: <199905250510_MC2-76F4-932C@compuserve.com> <374B07E8.AC815C03@iamerica.net> <374B1143.2E902A41@iamerica.net> <374B1AB4.3A43@voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:15:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP X File. Resent-Message-ID: <"fJKne1.0.hH5.l5vIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:06 PM -0700 5/25/99, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >OK, what gives? Over the last couple of weeks I've made several >requests for EDP availability info, and have heard not a peep. I've >never seen one, but I want to believe! Is Gibson making them? I've >surfed and surfed, but no sign of 'em. Sorry, I guess I could have answered, but I've been busy and not paying much attention lately. Gibson closed Oberheim a while ago, but they kept the Echoplex. There has been the usual batch of rumors about the echoplex being out of production, but that's not true. I think they just wanted to get rid of a bunch of other products that weren't selling at all, and decided to bail on the whole division. Echoplex was the only gem in that tar pit, so they kept it alive. They were a bit slow to decide what to do with it after that, but it now seems that they are moving it to the Opcode division (at least for production of it, I don't know what they will call it.) I went to Opcode the other day to help them sort some things out; it seems pretty positive. Unfortunately, it's temporarily unavailable right now, while they switch the production to Opcode. Hopefully it will only take them a month or two to get that going. It probably wouldn't hurt to call Opcode and ask them to please hurry up. If they know people want it, they will probably make it a higher priority and get it out faster. (hint, hint, wink, wink.....) >I seem to remember my sister once using one, but after that she was >never seen again. She's a lovely girl. She says to say hello. ;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 02:50:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA27117; Wed, 26 May 1999 02:50:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 02:50:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Digitech Space Station: Cool Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: <001501bea741$0be01420$d4edb5cf@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: <"ZO_3K3.0.ro5.TIvIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Same here. | -----Original Message----- | From: David Kirkdorffer [mailto:DKirkdorffer@exapps.com] | Sent: Tuesday 25 May 1999 2:56 PM | To: 'Mark Sottilaro'; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com | Subject: RE: Digitech Space Station: Cool | 10x better than a pedalboardful of the rediculously priced and limited | electro-harmonix re-issues. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 06:03:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA20642; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:03:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:03:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: mascarat.dragonet.es: dinamic1-43.drago.net [195.76.196.43] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990526012129.007d2920@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:21:29 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, stickwire-l@netcom.com, taptalk@progrock.net From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ra=FCl?= Bonell =?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom=E0s?= Subject: ... more and more mp3 files .... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"dkYXD2.0.PE3.IVxIt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi friends ! mp3 files at: http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc/demo.htm i asure you, lots of fun ! thanks in advance=20 for your comments and reviews ! =09 =09 peace.bye.love. Ra=FCl. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// Ra=FCl Bonell Tom=E0s =20 http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 09:34:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA18539; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:34:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:34:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:21:42 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Space Station Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"JxRT61.0.ez3.EM_It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Someone asked about the sample and hold style patch - I'm afraid I have no clue what patch number it is because I was just trying the thing out in a store (which made me want it all the more). I want one really bad, but should probably get a suspension fork for my mountain bike first. I'll end up with one of these devices eventually. Anyway, with the weirdo mutation power of the Vortex and the bizarro sound creation abilities of the Space Station, I imagine that I could create unusual sound textures. I bet it sounds great with voice, keys, drums too. Bass - might need to do the bootsy thing and have a splitter or something. Or use a 6 string bass. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 09:46:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA21040; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:46:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:46:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374C03AD.2E411DEB@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:22:40 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Pity the poor keyboard player! References: <003201bea6f9$cbd11f60$0d954e0c@u73x0> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"shPGJ.0.mx3.PL_It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Are you sure it was the keyboard? I've been playing guitar for 18 years, and it's yet to attract me a woman... as a matter of fact, I think it's broken up a few of my relationships! Maybe it's the LCD displays? Maybe it's the shoes... Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 09:48:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA21380; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:48:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:48:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990526133034.83261.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [134.174.151.250] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boomerang @ Rudy's Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:30:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"juICl.0.-D4.KR_It"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Larry, I was at Rudy's Guitars on 48th Street in New York last thursday and they had a Boomerang in stock. They also had the Z-Vex Seek Wah, an original Micro Synth...(insert gear lust item here)... just be careful if you go in that back room; it's the kind of place that makes rent money evaporate. If you aren't any where near NY you might want to call... Good Luck _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 10:29:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA30146; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:29:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:29:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003201bea782$d4c7bf00$64efebd0@pearcetctc.com> From: "pearce" To: Subject: Re: Space Station Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:19:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"uDj6M2.0.Kq6.5B0Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Todd wrote: >Anyway, with the weirdo mutation power of the Vortex and the bizarro >sound creation abilities of the Space Station, I imagine that I could >create unusual sound textures. The combination of the Space Station and the Vortex IS a great thing- I use it a lot. And throwing my Jamman into the mix produces wonderful results! I've heard some people talk about the lack of parameter editing available on the Space Station. Although, as a tweak-head, I sympathize with this, I also realize that there are some things on the space station that I simply can't find elsewhere. I kind of view it like another set of sounds coming out of the guitar- just one more thing to process, loop, etc....... Speaking of guitar sounds, I can't speak highly enough of the new Earvana compensated guitar nut! Check out: www.earvana.com This nut REALLY pulls the guitar "in-tune". I've played with the Buzz intonation system a bit, and while it's really nice, it's my opinion that the Earvana nut is probably a more practical system for most guitarists- plus, it's at a price that even guitar players can afford! I had my guitar tech put this on my strat, and he was knocked out by just how in tune the guitar was on his strobe tuner. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 12:18:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA22492; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:18:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:18:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Kim Flint'" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: EDP X File -- Reaching OPCODE: http://www.opcode.com/sales/ Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:08:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"Fa3IK2.0.F15.lp1Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com REACHING OPCODE If you would like to let OPCODE know that their is an unmet market for "That Which Has Been Known As The Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro" (TWHBKATOEDP), you may want to surf to the links below... http://www.opcode.com/sales/ http://www.opcode.com/contact/ Also, you could register an ad on their site looking for "TWHBKATOEDP" -- that may catch their attention too. http://www.opcode.com/funbytes/classified/submit.html Finally, there is a very lively discussion-group area which gets lots of traffic that may be a good place to drop in and add a question or two... http://www.opcode.com/funbytes/optalk/ David Kirkdorffer -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@annihilist.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 2:15 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP X File. At 11:06 PM -0700 5/25/99, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >OK, what gives? Over the last couple of weeks I've made several >requests for EDP availability info, and have heard not a peep. I've >never seen one, but I want to believe! Is Gibson making them? I've >surfed and surfed, but no sign of 'em. Sorry, I guess I could have answered, but I've been busy and not paying much attention lately. Gibson closed Oberheim a while ago, but they kept the Echoplex. There has been the usual batch of rumors about the echoplex being out of production, but that's not true. I think they just wanted to get rid of a bunch of other products that weren't selling at all, and decided to bail on the whole division. Echoplex was the only gem in that tar pit, so they kept it alive. They were a bit slow to decide what to do with it after that, but it now seems that they are moving it to the Opcode division (at least for production of it, I don't know what they will call it.) I went to Opcode the other day to help them sort some things out; it seems pretty positive. Unfortunately, it's temporarily unavailable right now, while they switch the production to Opcode. Hopefully it will only take them a month or two to get that going. It probably wouldn't hurt to call Opcode and ask them to please hurry up. If they know people want it, they will probably make it a higher priority and get it out faster. (hint, hint, wink, wink.....) >I seem to remember my sister once using one, but after that she was >never seen again. She's a lovely girl. She says to say hello. ;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 13:09:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA00934; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:09:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:09:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374C28A8.E7B99473@uswest.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:00:24 -0600 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Happy Birthday! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5na7f1.0.8k7.yY2Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com to Miles Dewey Davis.... >From Charlie Parker to Gil Evans to Gerry Mulligan to Sonny Rollins to Sonny Stitt to Bill Evans to John Coltrane to Wynton Kelly to Cannonball Adderley to Wayne Shorter to Herbie Hancock to Tony Williams to Chick Corea to Keith Jarrett to Joe Zawinul to John McLaughlin to Bennie Maupin to Dave Holland to Pete Cosey to Mtume to Airto Moriera to Steve Grossman to Sonny Fortune to Marcus Miller to John Scofield to Mike Stern to Bill Evans (the other one..) to Bob Berg to Foley to Kenny Garrett (and countless greats in between) he's brought out the very best in all of them! If i wanted to name my top 5 or top 10 fav Miles CDs, i'm not sure that i could differentiate between them enough to pick 5! Some of my favs would include: Milestones Bitches Brew Big Fun On the Corner Agartha Kind of Blue Cookin' Sketches of Spain Jack Johnson Porgy and Bess Nefertiti Star People and on and on and on.... Today, my favorite period of his music is his late 60's/early 70's stuff, but that classic sextet from the late 50's/early 60's is right there... and then the 65-68 group.... I actually only saw Miles in concert once in 1986 in Phoenix AZ and i STILL get goose bumps every time i think of it... I had NO idea what i was in for, he had brought the sounds of the JUNGLE to the DESERT! They had to drag me outta there afterwards... THE true master of colors, sounds, textures! Happy Birthday to the Prince of Darkness! What does Miles mean to YOU? Peace. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 14:36:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA19274; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:36:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:36:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:31:17 -0300 Subject: From: "Sebastian Woscoboinik" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3010577477_41859_MIME_Part" Message-ID: <77271F4A9FC.AAA3F96@un1.satlink.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"vm-UQ2.0.3M4.It3Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3010577477_41859_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I bought in trorougbred in Orlando. thanks ---------- >From: Mark Sottilaro >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: EDP Gain/Noise >Date: Tue, May 25, 1999, 2:00 AM > > Also, where did you get your EDP? Are they being sold as new gear? Did > you get it used, and if so, how much? > > Mark Sottilaro > --MS_Mac_OE_3010577477_41859_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <no subject> I bought in trorougbred in Orlando.

thanks



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>From: Mark Sottilaro <msottila@mailbox.syr.= edu>
>To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>Subject: Re: EDP Gain/Noise
>Date: Tue, May 25, 1999, 2:00 AM
>

> Also, where did you get your EDP?  Are they being sold as new gea= r?  Did
> you get it used, and if so, how much?
>
> Mark Sottilaro
>
--MS_Mac_OE_3010577477_41859_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 15:36:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA30809; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:36:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:36:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01e601bea7ae$9848ab80$142a10ac@Douglas> From: "K. Douglas Baldwin" To: "Todd Madson" , Subject: Re: Space Station, 2290 comments Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"iTnHx3.0.e77.ij4Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Please, Todd, tell us again about how you demo'd the Space Station, then handed it to someone else who made you laugh and laugh... :-) Seriously, if you can give more detail on the settings, it might push someone (like me, ferinstance) to either buy it or scratch it off their list. Does the string pad just add a slow-rise envelope? How deep is the ring mod? As long as it has a sample-and-hold function, discussion here at LD seems appropriate. PS Between the time I wrote this note and went to send it, the other responses told me much of what I wanted to know. I tell you, Loopers are CONNECTED. (Probably with good old audio wire and 1/4" jacks, too) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 15:52:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA01635; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:52:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:52:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:44:12 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: "K. Douglas Baldwin" cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Space Station, 2290 comments In-Reply-To: <01e601bea7ae$9848ab80$142a10ac@Douglas> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"B_0zL.0.Cy7.Gz4Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi. The string pad settings were more or less instantaneous in terms of playing a note and hearing a sound. To make it fade in, you would use either the included volume pedal or your volume knob on your instrument of choice. To the best of my recollection, the sounds were as follows - droning string pad settings, some had octave above and some had octave below sounds mixed in with a short delay or echo tail. They all sounded pretty lush. As far as depth of the ring mod - hard to say as I've never had a ring modulation device before, but it sounded like the ring mod effects I've heard on Terje Rypdal recordings. You could create quite a racket with it or be musical. The reverse delays were particularly attractive. Pretty smooth. You could do the sort of Adrian Belew backwards guitar effect with that setting. I would suggest you get one of the folks who own one to review it better than I could since I spent maybe 20 minutes with the one in the store and there were a good 10 presets I listened to for 20 seconds before moving on, so all the subtle details are likely being missed. Sorry I wasn't of more help, but if you find one you have to try it. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html On Wed, 26 May 1999, K. Douglas Baldwin wrote: > Please, Todd, tell us again about how you demo'd the Space Station, then > handed it to someone else who made you laugh and laugh... :-) > Seriously, if you can give more detail on the settings, it might push > someone (like me, ferinstance) to either buy it or scratch it off their > list. Does the string pad just add a slow-rise envelope? How deep is the > ring mod? As long as it has a sample-and-hold function, discussion here at > LD seems appropriate. > PS Between the time I wrote this note and went to send it, the other > responses told me much of what I wanted to know. I tell you, Loopers are > CONNECTED. (Probably with good old audio wire and 1/4" jacks, too) > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 16:16:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA09444; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:16:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:16:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:08:34 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang @ Rudy's To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"IOC0I.0.qf1.DK5Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com there is a music store in ct that has a boomerang also. my bet is that it is a lot cheaper there then rudy's. if you are interested let me know and i will give you their phone #. pj From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 17:18:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA26460; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:18:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:18:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:56:21 +0200 To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Help! X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Sender: 320086123907-0001@t-online.de From: L.Angulo@t-online.de (luis a. angulo) Resent-Message-ID: <"915713.0.9v4.F06Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Could anybody tell me how to change the resistors on my EDP step by step to change the gain structor on it?has anybody gone through the same frustration as me? L.Angulo@t-online.de From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 19:28:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA32485; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:28:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008e01bea7d0$82180140$3e98adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: , Subject: Re: Pity the poor keyboard player! Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:35:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"fwy0C2.0.4Q7.U58Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com you guys are both wrong . . . the didg player should be the ladykiller--swaggering around the stage, swinging that big stick suggetively, while demonstrating his mastery of circular breatthing and tongueing technique . . . I've figured out that the reason it dosen't work out that way probably has something to do with the puffy, flushed cheeks of the player, the horrific facial grimaces and the pool of saliva that drips from the end of the didg in an ever widening pool . . . ;) drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net -----Original Message----- From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:52 AM Subject: Re: Pity the poor keyboard player! >Are you sure it was the keyboard? > >I've been playing guitar for 18 years, and it's yet to attract me a >woman... as a matter of fact, I think it's broken up a few of my >relationships! Maybe it's the LCD displays? > >Maybe it's the shoes... > >Mark Sottilaro > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 21:14:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA30201; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:14:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:14:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374C9C0B.21654AE3@best.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:12:45 -0700 From: Allan Hoeltje Reply-To: ahoeltje@best.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: Opcode is not telling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"McAod.0.S67.Di9Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As per a pervious suggestion, I visited the Opcode web page and sent a note to their information department (copied below). Their brief response "Opcode is not handling any Oberheim products" adds to the EDP mystery. Could the person who responded be out of the loop (argh) or is Opcode realy not the new EDP distributor for Gibson/Oberheim as has been mentioned here at Loopers Delight? Allan infoone@opcode.com wrote: > >Allan Hoeltje > >ahoeltje@best.com > >Update Address: > > > > > >Oakland, CA > > > > > >Additional Info: > >I am desperately in need of an Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro! When do you > >plan on reintroducing this product? What will be the price? What > >differences will there be between the new product and the old? > > > > > Opcode is not handling any Oberheim products. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed May 26 23:13:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA21701; Wed, 26 May 1999 23:13:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:13:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: doug@mail.lightlink.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374C9C0B.21654AE3@best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:04:56 -0400 To: Loopers Delight From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: Opcode is not telling Resent-Message-ID: <"PX60Y1.0.3-4.wRBJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 18:12 -0700 5/26/99, Allan Hoeltje wrote: > As per a pervious suggestion, I visited the Opcode web page and sent a >note to > their information department (copied below). Their brief response "Opcode is > not handling any Oberheim products" adds to the EDP mystery. Could the >person > who responded be out of the loop (argh) or is Opcode realy not the new EDP > distributor for Gibson/Oberheim as has been mentioned here at Loopers >Delight? Well, on issues like this, the person answering the phone or email probably has the correct answers. They do generally know what's for sale and shipping. Front-line customer service/support people don't tend to know much about future product plans. Programmers and even managers don't always know either! :) (are all sufficiently large organizations like this? I dunno) On top of that, sometimes plans change. Doug who used to work for Opcode From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 00:08:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA31494; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:08:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:08:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374C7E6C.C0292894@texas.net> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:06:22 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boomerang @ Krazy Kat References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1b8lS.0.DW7.FHCJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi kids - i keep boomerangs in stock at krazy kat music, san antonio tx. i will mail order. email me *there*, not here krazy2@texas.net 210.737.0523 bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 01:11:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA13263; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:11:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:11:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:58:03 -0400 Message-ID: <003d01bea7fd$80a34220$42f1fbd0@futurepe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"LlnqG.0.8l2.-4DJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Now that the Plex's future is unknown for the time being, can we get an idea of what the planned Plex upgrade would be? It seems that it will be awhile till that is released, but it woud be fun to know. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave   'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > Their brief > response "Opcode is > > not handling any Oberheim products" adds to the EDP mystery. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 02:03:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA22853; Thu, 27 May 1999 02:03:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:03:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374CDF12.EE80B392@dial.pipex.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:58:42 +0100 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:vids References: <199905260706.DAA30637@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jiKP82.0.cN5.ZyDJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think someone mentioned looping instructional videos here some time ago. Could anyone recommend one. Come to think of it not just looping but more arcane guitar techniques. I'm not interested in scales and all that - unless of course they're anything to do with eastern music:) Oh sod it just video's that you lot have been inspired/impressed by. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 02:19:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA26024; Thu, 27 May 1999 02:19:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:19:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003d01bea7fd$80a34220$42f1fbd0@futurepe> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 03:23:16 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Resent-Message-ID: <"jj76T.0.jA6.MBEJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Now that the Plex's future is unknown for the time being, can we get an idea >of what the planned Plex upgrade would be? It seems that it will be awhile >till that is released, but it would be fun to know. That question hits me somehow because I am doing it. Sometimes I stop for a while and care for other projects. But right now it is first priority and its fun to see it grow and I intend not to stop any more before its done. Some of the features I am using for quite a while, especially regarding Sync and MIDI. Those became a lot more smother and smarter and there are new functions and heavy new ways to operate through MIDI. And you can save sets of parameters. Eberhard Weber contributed the optical metronome and the low octave (not that those are new ideas, Lexicon did it a long while ago, but he had the energy - convincing sound! - that made it possible). And more... The intention is to pack all that is possible on the EDP into this upgrade so that you all are going to want it and be satisfied for a while :-) Maybe its whise not to say much in order not to create expectations and "pressures", so please do not ask further, because I should rather do it than talk about it, right? :-) But I am far from giving up it thats what you wanted to know, the programming does not depend on Opcode. * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 05:17:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA20897; Thu, 27 May 1999 05:17:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 05:17:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: ZOOM GFX707 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 05:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: <005c01bea81f$6f7147a0$42f1fbd0@futurepe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"9xxhm1.0.qh4.KeGJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There may be a new mini looper out there... >From Harmony Central: The ZOOM GFX707 "...You can even layer your own guitar parts (or external audio sources) using the internal six-second sampler. The Jam Play feature allows you to record two seconds of a phrase and then use the expression pedal to control the playback speed and direction, or "scratch" like a DJ." This is the actual page: http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/1999/GFX707.html First person to try one, please post your thoughts. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/dave   'Future Perfect' - art music http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 06:03:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA26402; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:03:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:03:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374C9C0B.21654AE3@best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:54:42 -0700 To: Loopers Delight From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Opcode is not telling Resent-Message-ID: <"QgPC41.0.eA6.WOHJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 6:12 PM -0700 5/26/99, Allan Hoeltje wrote: >As per a pervious suggestion, I visited the Opcode web page and sent a note to >their information department (copied below). Their brief response "Opcode is >not handling any Oberheim products" adds to the EDP mystery. Could the person >who responded be out of the loop (argh) probably they just saw the word "oberheim" and reacted to that. It wouldn't surprise me if the support guy doesn't know about echoplex yet. But don't be discouraged, if people are asking they'll notice all the interest and things will move faster. Keep bugging them, it wouldn't be the first time that user enthusiasm kept a cool product going! > or is Opcode realy not the new EDP >distributor for Gibson/Oberheim as has been mentioned here at Loopers Delight? Opcode is a division of Gibson, just like Oberheim used to be. So they would not be distributing really. Just handling the manufacturing. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 06:06:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA26761; Thu, 27 May 1999 06:06:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 06:06:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003d01bea7fd$80a34220$42f1fbd0@futurepe> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:31:14 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Resent-Message-ID: <"Dds_s.0.lW5.g2HJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:58 PM -0700 5/26/99, Future Perfect wrote: >Now that the Plex's future is unknown for the time being, can we get an idea >of what the planned Plex upgrade would be? It seems that it will be awhile >till that is released, but it woud be fun to know. > to clear this up a bit, what opcode is doing is not any upgrade, they are just taking on the production of the existing echoplex. (whether they all know it or not....) Although I hope they make some minor changes to add the various mods to the PCB and for CE, but that shouldn't be noticeble from the outside. What Matthias and the rest of us at Aurisis are doing, now that's a different story! but of course, I'm going to leave you in suspense on that one....;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 08:52:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA16015; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:52:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374CF6FE.2BBC051C@texas.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:40:50 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: Re: Boomerang at Krazy Kat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"BChQz.0.iP3.TpJJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sorry, wrong email. it's actually: krazy2@flash.net oops... bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 10:04:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA28662; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:04:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:04:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Todd Madson'" , "K. Douglas Baldwin" Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Space Station - string pads -- a little corney Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:19:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"YVuLe.0.Xt5.kiKJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The one thing I'll mention about the 6 or 7 string pad settings, is that sound VERY LIKE what you may have already heard on CD's for a few years -- THAT IS TO SAY, they are a bit generic and you run the risk of sounding a bit like a fine guitarist whose last name begins with F and ends in P. If the string pads become a STARTING point for you to then add further "warpage" like a few fuzz boxes, wah-wah's or even another space station, you'll start to have something neato and unique. And that's the truth. David K UNDO P.S. The Space Station is a STEREO box, but sounds just wonderful in MONO. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 10:13:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA30682; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:13:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:13:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:50:07 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: David Kirkdorffer cc: "K. Douglas Baldwin" , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Space Station - string pads -- a little corney In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"anEit3.0.hO6._sKJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Re: generic string pads: oh yeah, you definetely gotta process them further after the main box. That's why the string pad I created for the Leicon Vortex is dynamically sensitive and then is processed further after it - it sounds completely different than most of the string pad sounds I've used (check out "The Alien Murk" from the Sounds from the Noisy Room Vortex Patch Exchange). Guitarist whose last name begins with F and ends with P? You've got me there.....Robert....FOPP!!!! Dripp? Dropp? Dryiee? Oh nevermind. Hey, you should have heard the patch I came up with for a Digitech GSP5 + ART SGE + Boss OC-2. It literally sounded like the rings of saturn falling apart. The drummer I was working with at the time looked at me like I was out of my mind. Boy, it didn't sound like a guitar at all. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html On Thu, 27 May 1999, David Kirkdorffer wrote: > The one thing I'll mention about the 6 or 7 string pad settings, is that > sound VERY LIKE what you may have already heard on CD's for a few years -- > THAT IS TO SAY, they are a bit generic and you run the risk of sounding a > bit like a fine guitarist whose last name begins with F and ends in P. > > If the string pads become a STARTING point for you to then add further > "warpage" like a few fuzz boxes, wah-wah's or even another space station, > you'll start to have something neato and unique. > > And that's the truth. > > David K > UNDO > > P.S. The Space Station is a STEREO box, but sounds just wonderful in MONO. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 10:18:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA31660; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:18:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:18:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990527140633.32910.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [134.174.151.250] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Save the Echo Plex and a Joycean digression Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:06:33 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"Da2Wd2.0.Q57.q5LJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm a Jam Man user myself, but I would hate to see the Echo Plex go the way of Sellon's masterpiece. Kim, since you are running this show, why don't you put together an e-petition here on Loopers Delight to send to Opcode. It would also be a fine idea to include desired modifications. If we could send in a serious looking proposal/petition it might shore up any leaks in Opcode/Gibson's confidence. Lexicon abandoned the Jam Man because they had little faith in it's vaibility as a profitable item. I'm sure that similar doubts are being harbored by Opcode, after all as much as we love our loopers, they are a niche product in many ways. Not that they should be, but not everyone is interested "in that other word". (Pardon the literary reference, the quatation is from Leopold Bloom's letter in Ulysses. Bloom means to write "other world" but instead leaves us to contemplate "other words". Pardon the Joyce refrence but Faulkner was noted the other day as a looper and if we are going to invoke literary loopers Joyce must be mentioned. I've actually Looped readings of the Molly Bloom chapter which is terribly appropriate since the symbol for the chapter is a lazy 8 and its text is designed as an infinite loop of doubt and reconciliation.)...Pardon the parenthentical digression, save the Echo Plex. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 10:53:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA05850; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:53:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:53:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905271444.KAA09739@ligarius-fe0.ultra.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:47:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Save the Echo Plex and a Joycean digression From: "sandro" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Vi7oi1.0.l31.SfLJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com let me add my 2 cents to this. have you noticed that the JamMan sells [used] more that the price you would have paid for a new one. Maybe Lexicon and Oberheim/Opcode/Gibson should think about this sandro ---------- >From: "Sean Witters" >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Save the Echo Plex and a Joycean digression >Date: Thu, May 27, 1999, 10:06 AM > > I'm a Jam Man user myself, but I would hate to see the Echo Plex go the way > of Sellon's masterpiece. Kim, since you are running this show, why don't > you put together an e-petition here on Loopers Delight to send to Opcode. > It would also be a fine idea to include desired modifications. If we could > send in a serious looking proposal/petition it might shore up any leaks in > Opcode/Gibson's confidence. Lexicon abandoned the Jam Man because they had > little faith in it's vaibility as a profitable item. I'm sure that similar > doubts are being harbored by Opcode, after all as much as we love our > loopers, they are a niche product in many ways. Not that they should be, > but not everyone is interested "in that other word". (Pardon the literary > reference, the quatation is from Leopold Bloom's letter in Ulysses. Bloom > means to write "other world" but instead leaves us to contemplate "other > words". Pardon the Joyce refrence but Faulkner was noted the other day as a > looper and if we are going to invoke literary loopers Joyce must be > mentioned. I've actually Looped readings of the Molly Bloom chapter which > is terribly appropriate since the symbol for the chapter is a lazy 8 and its > text is designed as an infinite loop of doubt and reconciliation.)...Pardon > the parenthentical digression, save the Echo Plex. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 11:10:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA09234; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:10:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:10:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <016301bea84e$d88e6a40$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:40:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"dqGYy3.0.nC1.FiLJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm drooling already! BTW, will the upgrade function with existing EDP hardware? Also, here's a unsolicited suggestion for a new feature. :) Many times I build a loop using MULTIPLY. I.e., I do the sequence: RECORD (start), RECORD (stop), MULTIPLY (start), MULTIPLY (stop). So I have a multi-cycle loop. Next, I want to manipulate the loop as if it were a single-cycle loop. For example, the rate of the MIDI clock is different if the same length loop is composed of one cycle or multiple cycles. Also, the NEXT LOOP-MULTIPLY "lame-duck" period is longer with a loop composed of one cycle so I have enough time to do things before switching to the next loop. To the chase: I'm requesting a function that merges a multi-cycle loop into a single-cycle loop. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 12:16:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA21752; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:16:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:16:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <4cac0a7c.247ec2da@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:46:34 EDT Subject: Re: Save the Echo Plex and a Joycean digression To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"o_1uK.0.714.HaMJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 5/27/99 9:53:09 AM Central Daylight Time, sscoccia@ma.ultranet.com writes: << (Pardon the literary reference, the quotation is from Leopold Bloom's letter in Ulysses. >> I still have neither an EDP nor a JamMan, not a Headrush, Electro-Harmonix, TC, Zoom, or Electro-hu-cardio-shnooks (the reference is from Dr. Seuss); (I am still making noise with my Klein into just a NanoVerb, a SPX-50D, a Digitech Whammy, a ProCo Rat, and a Budda,) but if you guys are going to quote Joyce's Ulysses, all I can offer you is my heartfelt yes yes yes. Stately plump Kevin Brunkhorst From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 14:52:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA21564; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:52:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:52:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990527133707.008dca00@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:37:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday! In-Reply-To: <374C28A8.E7B99473@uswest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"m4G1l3.0.Rp4.K8PJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:00 AM 5/26/99 -0600, you wrote: >to Miles Dewey Davis.... > >If i wanted to name my top 5 or top 10 fav Miles CDs, i'm not sure that >i could differentiate between them enough to pick 5! > >Some of my favs would include: >Milestones >Bitches Brew >Big Fun >Today, my favorite period of his music is his late 60's/early 70's >stuff, Jim, Then you must check out "In a Silent Way." I also like "Sorcerer" from around 1967 (the one with Ms. Tyson on the cover), except for that strange little 2:00 song at the end. Best, Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 15:17:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA27330; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:17:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:17:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <016301bea84e$d88e6a40$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:13:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Resent-Message-ID: <"oAssu2.0.0R6.HbPJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dennis said: >I'm drooling already! > >BTW, will the upgrade function with existing EDP hardware? yes, that is all it would be for. there isn't any hardware change happening soon. >Also, here's a unsolicited suggestion for a new feature. :) > >Many times I build a loop using MULTIPLY. I.e., I do the sequence: RECORD >(start), RECORD (stop), MULTIPLY (start), MULTIPLY (stop). So I have a >multi-cycle loop. Next, I want to manipulate the loop as if it were a >single-cycle loop. For example, the rate of the MIDI clock is different if >the same length loop is composed of one cycle or multiple cycles. Also, the >NEXT LOOP-MULTIPLY "lame-duck" period is longer with a loop composed of one >cycle so I have enough time to do things before switching to the next loop. > >To the chase: I'm requesting a function that merges a multi-cycle loop into >a single-cycle loop. well this one's easy, cause it's already there! If you do a Multiply, and end it with a press of Record (instead of a second press of Multiply), you get exactly what you want. The multi-cycle loop is redefined to a single cycle loop. The length of the new loop will be however long it was between the Multiply and Record press. You can do this with a pre-existing, already multiplied loop. If quantize is on, the new loop will automatically be defined to a cycle boundary. If Quantize is off, you can redefine it to any point. This is also a great way to chop out sections of a loop or edit the loop length in real time. Here's an explicit example of what you want to do: - set quantize on - Record a short 2 second loop. - Press Multiply, let it get 4 multiples, and press multiply again. Now you have the original loop repeated 4 times in this new, 4 cycle, 8 second loop. now, lets convert it to a single cycle, 8 second loop that's 4 times longer than the original. In other words, take the 4 cycles and covert them to one cycle, without other wise changing the loop. - during the 4th cycle of the current loop, press multiply - you'll see the 'ooo' display that means its quantizing (waiting for the cycle boundary) - When cycle 1 starts, the echoplex starts multiplying automatically. - watch the counter, when it shows you are at cycle 4 again, press Record - it will again show 'ooo'. At the cycle boundary the Record executes, redefining the cycle length to that point. So now you have an 8 second, 1 cycle loop, with four repetitions of your original. This seems a bit complicated just for that, but think of all the power and flexibility it gives you otherwise! You can cut your loop back to 3 cycles or 1 cycle or extend it to 7 or 39 or whatever. You can chop out a section and make a loop just with that. You can easily fix the length in real time if its a little off, or if tempo from other musicians/samples has drifted. This is a great thing for making transitions and evolutions of the loop. If you have a long loop, it can be very slow to convert it to something else. So instead, chop out a much shorter piece of it to carry on the theme, and work with that to edit into something new. Try it! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 15:27:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA29428; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:27:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:27:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990527140633.32910.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:23:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Save the Echo Plex and a Joycean digression Resent-Message-ID: <"DuFgT2.0.it6.IjPJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com uh, you guys are getting a bit ahead of yourselves again. nothings been canceled or in any danger of that. (it was in danger of that, in the recent Oberheim massacre, but that danger is well passed.) Gibson is just moving the production to a different division, Opcode. This means there is a temporary delay in new units while they get things going again. The advantage of people contacting them about it is that they will see the interest out there, and they will move faster to get the new units available. It probably wouldn't be completely appropriate for me to organize petition drives or whatever (I don't have time anyway....). But if you all want to do that, chances are good that I wouldn't stop you.... kim At 7:06 AM -0700 5/27/99, Sean Witters wrote: >I'm a Jam Man user myself, but I would hate to see the Echo Plex go the way >of Sellon's masterpiece. Kim, since you are running this show, why don't >you put together an e-petition here on Loopers Delight to send to Opcode. >It would also be a fine idea to include desired modifications. If we could >send in a serious looking proposal/petition it might shore up any leaks in >Opcode/Gibson's confidence. Lexicon abandoned the Jam Man because they had >little faith in it's vaibility as a profitable item. I'm sure that similar >doubts are being harbored by Opcode, after all as much as we love our >loopers, they are a niche product in many ways. Not that they should be, >but not everyone is interested "in that other word". (Pardon the literary >reference, the quatation is from Leopold Bloom's letter in Ulysses. Bloom >means to write "other world" but instead leaves us to contemplate "other >words". Pardon the Joyce refrence but Faulkner was noted the other day as a >looper and if we are going to invoke literary loopers Joyce must be >mentioned. I've actually Looped readings of the Molly Bloom chapter which >is terribly appropriate since the symbol for the chapter is a lazy 8 and its >text is designed as an infinite loop of doubt and reconciliation.)...Pardon >the parenthentical digression, save the Echo Plex. > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 16:05:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA04958; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:05:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:05:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <01f001bea87a$3e9cea20$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:50:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"gdXDG1.0.At.fFQJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the speedy response, Kim! Yes, lots of times I end the MULTIPLY with a RECORD to create a single cycle loop out of many. However, in this situation I need to have QUANTIZE=OFF due to the way I'm building the loop. Now that I've got the loop where I want it, I need to do the MULTIPLY ended with a quantized RECORD. That is, I need to change QUANTIZE to ON, then do the MULTIPLY ended by a RECORD. I was hoping for an easier way. Like a single button press. Maybe I should get a MIDI pedal and set-up this parameter change/multiply/record sequence. Would that work? Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com -----Original Message----- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 16:09:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA05662; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:09:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:09:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:02:02 EDT Subject: Re: Space Station, 2290 comments To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 134 Resent-Message-ID: <"AnnSU1.0.I91.rKQJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 26/05/99 20:36:21 GMT Daylight Time, dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes: > As long as it has a sample-and-hold function, discussion here at > LD seems appropriate. Actually I have a notion that this isn't what you think. Sample-and-hold=looper? right? Well as far as I can make out this actually refers to a method used in analogue synths to generate a series of random voltages to control either pitch (random note generator) or ,as in the case of the SS ,the frequency of a filter (sort of bubbly effect). Perhaps I've got this wrong, but I reckon the SS would make loopable sounds, or process a loop, but is not capable of looping on its own.((but then I've never tried one)) Thanks to all for the info on this ped so far. At the moment i'm veering towards giving it a miss for the following reasons 1) not tweakable 2) too 'digital sounding' 3) I'm looking for something to vary the sound without echoing, and that leaves out a lot of the SS presets it seems. 4) It doesn't have a whammy patch (some people want everything). .......still considering though. Andy Butler Lexicon Vortex Database (newish section on undocumented features) http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 16:29:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA09932; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:29:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:29:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <356C82BC.4EA6@pop.interport.net> Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 16:16:48 -0500 From: John + Diane Parada Reply-To: jparada@changenow.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: [Fwd: Re: Space Station - string pads -- a little corney] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zQoHw2.0.-02.EbQJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Kirkdorffer wrote: > > The one thing I'll mention about the 6 or 7 string pad settings, is that > sound VERY LIKE what you may have already heard on CD's for a few years -- > THAT IS TO SAY, they are a bit generic and you run the risk of sounding a > bit like a fine guitarist whose last name begins with F and ends in P. that's what i like about it....jp From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 17:31:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA21758; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:31:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:31:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01f001bea87a$3e9cea20$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:34:02 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Resent-Message-ID: <"Bui_H3.0.m-4.FXRJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Thanks for the speedy response, Kim! > >Yes, lots of times I end the MULTIPLY with a RECORD to create a single cycle >loop out of many. However, in this situation I need to have QUANTIZE=OFF >due to the way I'm building the loop. Now that I've got the loop where I >want it, I need to do the MULTIPLY ended with a quantized RECORD. That is, >I need to change QUANTIZE to ON, then do the MULTIPLY ended by a RECORD. I >was hoping for an easier way. Like a single button press. are there any free buttons? :-) >Maybe I should >get a MIDI pedal and set-up this parameter change/multiply/record sequence. >Would that work? That would be an advanced way. Since quantizing happens to the incoming MIDIclock (if there is one), you can divide the rate from the sequencer (isnt that what you wanted to do?) and then press that key with QuantizeON/Multi/Rec?QuantizeOFF and it should do what you want in one step. We can also reconsider a new Quantize mode where a different set of functions is quantized. We discussed that before, since we are not quite sure, which functions should be quantized. Any other requests for this? Since we cannot keep the multiple information in case of Record/Undo, you can use this combination, too. Its rather crude, though, because it creates a moment of silence ;-) I can also consider to create an extra onlyMIDI function. Are there more users looking for this? * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 17:29:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA21033; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:29:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:29:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990527140633.32910.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:26:01 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Save the Echo Plex and a Joycean digression Resent-Message-ID: <"BwtOU.0.sf4.gPRJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I'm sure that similar >doubts are being harbored by Opcode, after all as much as we love our >loopers, they are a niche product in many ways. they did not have any doubts, but after reading this... :-) I do not quite think so, because it serves not only for specific music and stage, but for practicing, teaching, composing, voice arrangements, quick demos - a general tool for ALL instruments, so the market is even bigger even than the one for guitar pedals or keyboard expanders for example. >save the Echo Plex. Thank you! * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 17:30:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA21650; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:30:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:30:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374C03AD.2E411DEB@mailbox.syr.edu> References: <003201bea6f9$cbd11f60$0d954e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:27:38 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Pity the poor keyboard player! Resent-Message-ID: <"rZRUJ2.0.5n4.ARRJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Are you sure it was the keyboard? > >I've been playing guitar for 18 years, and it's yet to attract me a >woman... as a matter of fact, I think it's broken up a few of my >relationships! Maybe it's the LCD displays? no, its the MIDI connector. Too many pins. They want a straight one... emm, how low are we going to go? :-) * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 17:35:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA22575; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:35:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:35:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:25:51 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: Space Station - string pads -- a little corney Resent-Message-ID: <"iaqnq2.0.pf4.gPRJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >It literally sounded like the rings of saturn falling apart. hahaha - literally? hahaha! * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 18:00:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA27319; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:00:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:00:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374DBAC6.23315094@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:36:06 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Space Station, 2290 comments References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"VtIGV2.0.Fg5.hkRJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 26/05/99 20:36:21 GMT Daylight Time, > dbaldwin@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes: > > > As long as it has a sample-and-hold function, discussion here at > > LD seems appropriate. > Actually I have a notion that this isn't what you think. > Sample-and-hold=looper? right? > > Not really a looper that I have noticed, but then I got it for patch 10, the > aforementioned Adrian Belew Backwards guitar patch, great patch! > > Thanks to all for the info on this ped so far. > At the moment i'm veering towards giving it a miss for the following reasons > 1) not tweakable > One of the best things about the Space Station is that its not tweakable. The worst thing about it is that its not tweakable. I have gotten so much gear now that somthing that is plug and play is almost a relief.Option Anxiety rears it head. the pedal does its own type of tweaking in its own right. wish it had at least a couple of knobs though....sigh > 2) too 'digital sounding' > Very true, even more than its big bro' the Digitech Super Smart Shift I-PBS33B, (gotta love that name) in fact alot of the string and harmonizer patches are taken from it seems to me. Sometimes that is good though to me. > 3) I'm looking for something to vary the sound without echoing, and that > leaves > out a lot of the SS presets it seems. > 4) It doesn't have a whammy patch (some people want everything). > .......still considering though. > Glutton that I am I bought both the whammy and the SS, now I can put my sustainor into upper octave range hit the Whammy up 2 octaves in reverse play before it hits the Jamman and then the Vortex.... well sorry, ahem, wearing of ear plugs is highly recommened if you try this! my 2 or 3 cents worth, Jeff http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html > > Andy Butler > Lexicon Vortex Database (newish section on undocumented features) > http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 19:23:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA09589; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:23:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:23:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <021801bea889$4ae61090$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:38:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"xexUk2.0.i-5.SqRJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wow, the list is REALLY active today! Thank you, too, for the speedy response, Matthias! From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade (Opcode is not telling) > >are there any free buttons? :-) > I can add any number of free buttons to my footpedal. Just tell me what the labels should say. :) ;) :) Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 19:46:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA13566; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:46:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:46:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <016301bea84e$d88e6a40$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:21:45 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas Resent-Message-ID: <"vikx-1.0.9x1.96TJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >NEXT LOOP-MULTIPLY "lame-duck" period is longer with a loop composed of one >cycle so I have enough time to do things before switching to the next loop. There will be a "Loop" value for the NextQuant parameter to solve the "lame-duck" problem even better. * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 19:38:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA11958; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:38:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:38:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990527182159.0079fb10@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:21:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: Space Station - string pads -- a little corney In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"mT5B13.0.dN7.yFSJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ...they are a bit generic and you run the risk of sounding a >bit like a fine guitarist whose last name begins with F and ends in P. Allan Fholdsworthp? :-) No, I know you're referring to the guy who sits on the stool behind Adrian Fbelewp, Tony Flevinp and Trey Fgunnp... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 19:39:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA12040; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:39:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:39:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990527184732.007a4850@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:47:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Pity the poor keyboard player! In-Reply-To: References: <374C03AD.2E411DEB@mailbox.syr.edu> <003201bea6f9$cbd11f60$0d954e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"jsFpI3.0.Vd.vdSJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 06:27 PM 5/27/99 -0300, you wrote: >>Are you sure it was the keyboard? >> >>I've been playing guitar for 18 years, and it's yet to attract me a >>woman... as a matter of fact, I think it's broken up a few of my >>relationships! Maybe it's the LCD displays? It can get really interesting when you switch between the two mid-tune; I've had experiences where I'll be playing a stringed thing and noticing how the room seems to be full of attractive women listening with rapt attention, then I'll turn to sample and hold a pad or something and it's like they suddenly notice my pocket protector and the adhesive tape on my glasses... Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 20:07:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA17136; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:07:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:07:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990527201357.006a87b8@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: larryc3@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:13:57 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Larry Clinton Subject: Zoom 2100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"PP3KS3.0.h14.FrTJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is anyone using the Zoom 2100 unit for looping, or at all? I haven't been able to find anything about it except the catalog write-ups. Thanx. Larry From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 21:01:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA25677; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: <8ca29a08.247f4332@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:54:10 EDT Subject: Akai Headrush avail. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"ewuC41.0.g-5.lbUJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Russo's Music (609)888-0620 (Hamilton, N.J.) has the Headrush in stock for $174.99 I picked one up last weekend and will post a in depth review shortly but I concur with the previous comments that it was well worth the price for a basic no frills loop/ delay. - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 21:20:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA28690; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:20:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:20:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:09:36 EDT Subject: Loop length query To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"wuB6O3.0.ci6.TsUJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Topic suggestion: How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 sec.? Maybe it's just because all my loopers max out at 10 sec, or much less, that I've focused my own looping--which isn't what I mainly do, BTW (sound design and composition come a little ahead of looping, but not by much, I guess) ---primarily on the rhythms produced by the length of the loop itself, rather than, say, the phrasing of the loop material, or the construction of backing tracks, making longer looping times less interesting to me than fool-proof, flexible, interactive and intuitive loop control, and multi-tap, panning, and other rhythmic possibilities inherent in complex stereo delays. My GT-5, VG-8...even the sold-and-now-missed Vortex have all provided MUCHO Looping fun at well under 2 sec. When I DO go for a longer "backing" loop, I tend to set up some FX to blur or annihilate the sense of a repeat within a fairly sparse harmonic looping texture using a slow LFO or a filter or phaser. Comments on how you use longer loops, or don't, welcome.... David Coffin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 22:52:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA10712; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:52:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:52:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:08:47 EDT Subject: Re: Loop length query To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"v6hxz1.0.n-.ZhVJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i tend to use long loops on the jamman...10 seconds or longer usually though it isn't like i have a stopwatch. with the zoom 508 i am limited to 4 seconds so i tend to use a lot of feedback and roll off the treble so the repeats sound kind of garbled and lo-fi. the lexicon mpx 100 also has a 5 and a half second delay patch that i have been using a lot and also an endless patch that you can use as a looper. i think that is also around 5 seconds. between these 3 critters i can get some pretty whacky stuff going. thank god for the mackie mixer!! =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 22:48:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA09799; Thu, 27 May 1999 22:48:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:48:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374DFB01.FC8C37BB@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:10:09 -0500 From: Jenni Leeds Reply-To: jennil@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ZoomSampleTrak Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------934A6F5877052FF639F9B487" Resent-Message-ID: <"Qr-Qn2.0.Fo.bcVJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------934A6F5877052FF639F9B487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi girls+guys, I'm wondering about and would love feedback on a few possibilities. The new Zoom SampleTrak looks very inviting and at $500, affordable too. I downloaded the manual and checked it out and it seems very kool! Speaking w/o too much knowledge I noticed it can only tweek previously stored samples in real time and not fresh sounds during live performances. Is this true? Is this a problem? It doesn't seem like there is much to sample in a live setting anyway except atmospherics and crowd noise unless from some hidden radio or tape source...Anyway, the SampleTrak looks delicious and I'm set to spend some money. Could the Echoplex be better? This one store (a major) had it for 700 bucks. Is that too much? What I'm looking for, is performing MyBloodyValentine/Spacemen3 type Atmelodosherical harmonies which continually morph into beautiful dreamy colors of sound...I like the idea of sampling found sounds as well...Being in Nashville, TN, there is no shortage of music stores....any help towards a beginner would be greatly appreciated. Long live Looper's Delight! Jamie --------------934A6F5877052FF639F9B487 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi girls+guys,
 I'm wondering about and would love feedback on a few possibilities.
    The new Zoom SampleTrak looks very inviting and at $500, affordable too. I downloaded the manual and checked it out and it seems very kool! Speaking w/o too much knowledge I noticed it can only tweek previously stored samples in real time and not fresh sounds during live performances. Is this true? Is this a problem? It doesn't seem like there is much to sample in a live setting anyway except atmospherics and crowd noise unless from some hidden radio or tape source...Anyway, the SampleTrak looks delicious and I'm set to spend some money. Could the Echoplex be better? This one store (a major) had it for 700 bucks. Is that too much?
    What I'm looking for, is performing MyBloodyValentine/Spacemen3 type Atmelodosherical harmonies which continually morph into beautiful dreamy colors of sound...I like the idea of sampling found sounds as well...Being in Nashville, TN, there is no shortage of music stores....any help towards a beginner would be greatly appreciated. Long live Looper's Delight!
Jamie --------------934A6F5877052FF639F9B487-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu May 27 23:39:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18126; Thu, 27 May 1999 23:39:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:39:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990528030528.11000.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Opcode sells EDP Division To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"vR3s_.0.W03.ySWJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Made you look! Really, though... I'm curious how much one would have to pay for the whole enchilada? i.e. How much for all the rights to an old effects processor that no one is currently producing? Any guesses? And how much to tool up to produce 2-3 hundred a month? Randy Jones _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 00:39:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA30941; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:39:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:39:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374E1C71.CEF2D568@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:32:57 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loop length query References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nyxNH.0.a27.MnXJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Coffin wrote: > Topic suggestion: > How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 > sec.... well, for quite a long time i was confined to loops of 2 seconds or less (had a couple of boss dd5's chasing a dd3...now i'm down, er, up to a single dd5, a dd3 and an edp with full memory...), and to be honest, i had quite a good time with 2 seconds, tho i'd never go back (just like trading in a g3 for a power pc or a 21" monitor for a 17"...why would you want to?)...as for loops longer than 10 seconds, yeah, i do that all the time; sometimes i like to multiply over a shorter "rhythmic" figure; this way i can weave in and around the rhythm in ways that can blur the edges of the original loop(s)... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 00:42:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA31558; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:42:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:42:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000501bea8ba$d158e540$28b115d0@kara1> From: DainL@AustinTX.net (Dain R. Luscombe) To: Subject: Boston Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:33:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"LJSos3.0.wQ7.5sXJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com heyguys, I was recently given the option to relocate to boston, and was wondering what the scene was like there (I've never even seen the place) and general opinions of the city itself. I've lived in texas all my life and am looking forward to wearing jackets 80% of the year, plus I figured you've got to get more shows up there even though I live in the "live music capital of the world" ha bloody ha... any listing of clubs/guitar stores would be food for daydream...thanks! I'm into bands like the insides and seefeel, and am really sick of fighting for my jamman rights in a cowboy town...is it really any better up there? I guess 1 million "avant garde" composers can't be wrong... dain From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 01:11:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA03448; Fri, 28 May 1999 01:11:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:11:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000c01bea8c7$bdc1b720$dc3fdacf@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <374E1C71.CEF2D568@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Loop length query Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:05:43 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"2uG89.0.Hf.rGYJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com While this is a great deal different than live play, I've found a great deal of satisfaction in making layers of loops, in order to extend the length of the piece. Recording a loop, then recording play along with the loop, then playing along with THAT result; eventually I've got something that I'd be happy with as a base for an entire piece, that has enough variety to get away with being that long. Then I put more on top of it, as the case may be. It's sort of like a 2-d pyramid chart, with all bricks being the same size, but their placement presenting a larger pattern to the listener. Stephen Goodman * It's the Loop of the Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net > David Coffin wrote: > > > Topic suggestion: > > How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 > > sec.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 00:50:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA32705; Fri, 28 May 1999 00:50:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:50:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dogsandice@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 00:45:22 EDT Subject: Re: Boston To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"7gVgV1.0.xr7.B-XJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey dain there is a pretty hip improve scene in boston. there's a gallery called the zeitgeist which features out jazz. i live in northampton mass which is about two hours away but i have a friend going to school up there so i visit a bit. cc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 01:39:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA07363; Fri, 28 May 1999 01:39:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:39:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002e01bea8ca$430f7820$dc3fdacf@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Boston Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:23:46 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"cEs4w2.0.7L1.DYYJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dogsandice@aol.com put forth: > hey dain there is a pretty hip improve scene in boston. there's a gallery > called the zeitgeist which features out jazz. ...'Out Jazz'? Is this a new term we should be aware of? Stephen Goodman * It's the Loop of the Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 03:38:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA22997; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:38:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 03:38:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990528014519.00874c90@pop.interaccess.com> X-Sender: ths@pop.interaccess.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:45:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tom S Subject: Re: Opcode sells EDP Division/Let's Buy It! In-Reply-To: <19990528030528.11000.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"INI782.0.zl3.oiZJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's my guess for 300 sold/month (assume $400 sales cost): Assume 30% discount rate Year | Revenue | Revenue | After-tax | After-tax | PV Earnings | Growth | | Margin | Profit | 1 0% 1.4M 10% 140,000 $107,700 2 10% 1.54M 10% 154,000 $91,124 3 10% 1.69M 10% 169,000 $76,923 4 10% 1.86M 10% 186,000 $65,123 5 10% 2.05M 10% 205,000 $55,212 ------------ Total present value of earnings: $396,082 Terminal Value: + $75,000 What You Should Pay For EDP Factory: $471,082 ------------ ------------ This assumes that (1) that you're pretty confident of selling 300 units per month, (2) you think the EDP can hold off competition for the next 5 years and sustain 10% growth. I think the terminal value is pretty close for sales assumptions and market conditions down the digital road. So, if just 20 of us chip in for about the price of a new car, we can OWN Echoplex! We'd probably get a free one, or at least a good discount!! Tom ths@interaccess.com At 08:05 PM 5/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >Made you look! > >Really, though... > >I'm curious how much one would have to pay for >the whole enchilada? i.e. How much for all the >rights to an old effects processor that no one is >currently producing? Any guesses? And how much >to tool up to produce 2-3 hundred a month? > >Randy Jones >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 03:54:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA24882; Fri, 28 May 1999 03:54:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 03:54:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <34ACC37A.FB4DE6EF@sfsu.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 02:37:46 -0800 From: Matt Davignon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boston References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7Sx2k.0.Yk5.paaJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ah, I remember Northampton. A nice little town. I'd like to visit there next time I'm in the state. I used to live in Agawam. Now I live in San Francisco. Here's what I can say about Boston from my very limited experience. In the winter, it gets pretty cold. Not Minnesota cold, but you'll have a few 0 degree days (f) during the year. You get most of your rain in the summer. It's actually kind of nice that way since the summers are VERY hot. Lots of 90-100 degree days with 70-80% humidity. Sweat doesn't evaporate as well as it does in Texas. The streets are pretty darn windy and confusing compared to other cities. They were designed in colonial times, and while they're paved and stuff now, they don't make a lot of sense for cars. There's lots of rotaries and stuff. It might be better with a bike. People in Boston still like Aerosmith about as much as people in L.A. like Guns N' Roses. Not a majority by any means, but more than you'd expect. On the other hand, I keep hearing lots of nice lo-fi experimental home recorded music coming out of that area. The experimental noise label PURE is from around there, as well as a few others. Experimental is a really tiny part of all the music that goes on in Boston. I know very little about the rest though. I still think that Boston is a pretty nice city. First of all, it's near the ocean. (It's a cold ocean though.) There's lots of culture too. Massachusetts is a really pretty state too with lots of trees. I say you should go to Boston, Dain. If you don't like it, then you can always move back. I was a little apprehensive about moving to San Francisco, but I tried it anyway and I love it! I don't know how old you are Dain. I'm guessing that you're in your 20's or early 30's. Explore and travel while you can! It's never impossible, but uprooting gets harder as you get older. I believe that the experience will make you wiser. (I'm not saying that you're not wise, but it never hurts to be wiser, right?) best, matt davignon Dogsandice@aol.com wrote: > hey dain there is a pretty hip improve scene in boston. there's a gallery > called the zeitgeist which features out jazz. i live in northampton mass > which is about two hours away but i have a friend going to school up there so > i visit a bit. cc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 05:19:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA02314; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:19:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:19:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 04:45:38 -0400 From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas Sender: Andreas Willers To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199905280445_MC2-7762-5534@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"HfX2k.0.5a7.jVbJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I found that the biggest problem in using (and also exploring) these different little features that are very helpfull at one point or another = is that you cannot store presets. Although the layout of the plex is quite comfortable, I am absolutely hopeless in strolling through parameter list= s in mid-performance, especially on solo gigs. Even notes like 'turn on/off= XY for tune AB' taped somewhere on the rig wouldn't help me. For solo stuff I am using an Oberheim (only through the information on th= is list I got one, THANKS KIM & EVERBODY!!!) in a standard setting (2 loops,= quantize on, using reverse, feedback, multiply & overdub of course) and Boomerang stuff reversed, sped up or slowed down against that. That keeps= enough possibilities for improvisation. For group work I usually take (if at all) the boomerang, although the spe= ed up/down mode is a little hard to get to (you have to stop the loop first)= . If I understood you right Kim, the 'plex is technically not primitive enaugh to do these 'tape speed'-atmospheres that are much beloved in Bill= Frisell's playing (I wonder that his historic EH delay is still working, = or is he buying them used for 1200$ apiece?) = SO: how about a super-deep sine modulation that effects the pitch and the= speed of the signal so that it changes between an octave up & faster and/= or octave down & slower continuously?? The 2290 had something like that and = I tried to copy that sound with other units using like an expr.pedal-steere= d, delayed pitchshifter, but those harmonizers all sound 'yak' to me. Best, Andreas = From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 05:32:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA03885; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:32:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:32:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199905280445_MC2-7762-5534@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:06:06 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas Resent-Message-ID: <"hpPVe.0._q7.wfbJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I found that the biggest problem in using (and also exploring) these >different little features that are very helpfull at one point or another is >that you cannot store presets. Although the layout of the plex is quite >comfortable, I am absolutely hopeless in strolling through parameter lists >in mid-performance, especially on solo gigs. Even notes like 'turn on/off >XY for tune AB' taped somewhere on the rig wouldn't help me. Right. There will be, in the upgrade. How many do you need? * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 05:51:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA05999; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:51:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:51:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374E6293.E9EF8A0D@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 02:32:03 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: EDP Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qWmTM3.0.ku.t8cJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all- I am having a serious recurring problem with my EDP that worries me- Sometimes my loop will very slowly decay into a sound like "hissing in a pipe"- no more loop, just the fuzzy hissing sound- awful Feedback is 100% etc- It takes 10 min or so but I can't understand why- it does not happen every time- I thought maybe it has to do with changing drum machine patterns during the loop- my Dr-5 is in sync- I can't really think of anything else that wouldn't be hardware or simply a defective unit- Has anyone else experienced this problem? I can put the sound on my website if need be- Your input is greatly appreciated- Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 06:43:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA12494; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:43:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:43:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:35:07 -0400 From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas Sender: Andreas Willers To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199905280635_MC2-775B-5D5C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"tu4X71.0.2o2.x5dJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Five should do, ten would be generous. Ciao, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 06:38:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA11896; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:38:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:38:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990528030528.11000.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 03:31:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Opcode sells EDP Division Resent-Message-ID: <"znjMf3.0.bf2.A1dJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:05 PM -0700 5/27/99, Randy Jones wrote: >Made you look! > >Really, though... > >I'm curious how much one would have to pay for >the whole enchilada? i.e. How much for all the >rights to an old effects processor that no one is >currently producing? Any guesses? And how much >to tool up to produce 2-3 hundred a month? Gibson doesn't own the echoplex, they license it from Aurisis Research. And the license is... non-exclusive! Maybe we'll put one license on eBay, and you can all go bid for it. ;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 07:27:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA17741; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:27:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:27:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374E7A6C.37BF17A7@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 04:13:48 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Problem References: <374E6293.E9EF8A0D@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"S-FJj.0.Ys3.CedJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok, now I am really worried- I did a small loop and left everything alone- no adjustements to the DR-5 drums and I still get the same result- I have posted a before and after example on the link below for listening purposes- http://home.earthlink.net/~clifsound/edp.htm Cliff Clifford Novey wrote: > Hi all- > > I am having a serious recurring problem with my EDP that worries me- > > Sometimes my loop will very slowly decay into a sound like "hissing in a > pipe"- no more loop, just the fuzzy hissing sound- awful > Feedback is 100% etc- > It takes 10 min or so but I can't understand why- it does not happen > every time- > > I thought maybe it has to do with changing drum machine patterns during > the loop- my Dr-5 is in sync- I can't really think of anything else that > wouldn't be hardware or simply a defective unit- Has anyone else > experienced this problem? > I can put the sound on my website if need be- > > Your input is greatly appreciated- > > Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 08:35:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA27387; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:35:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:35:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374E87EC.91876573@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:11:25 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Problem References: <374E6293.E9EF8A0D@earthlink.net> <374E7A6C.37BF17A7@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5nNDr2.0.wp5.EUeJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok, sorry to be so busy with the postings- I turned the EDP off and upon restarting it worked fine- this is not good news- Maybe the head honchos have some clues?? Cliff Clifford Novey wrote: > Ok, now I am really worried- I did a small loop and left everything alone- > no adjustements to the DR-5 drums and I still get the same result- I have > posted a before and after example on the link below for listening purposes- > > http://home.earthlink.net/~clifsound/edp.htm > > Cliff > > Clifford Novey wrote: > > > Hi all- > > > > I am having a serious recurring problem with my EDP that worries me- > > > > Sometimes my loop will very slowly decay into a sound like "hissing in a > > pipe"- no more loop, just the fuzzy hissing sound- awful > > Feedback is 100% etc- > > It takes 10 min or so but I can't understand why- it does not happen > > every time- > > > > I thought maybe it has to do with changing drum machine patterns during > > the loop- my Dr-5 is in sync- I can't really think of anything else that > > wouldn't be hardware or simply a defective unit- Has anyone else > > experienced this problem? > > I can put the sound on my website if need be- > > > > Your input is greatly appreciated- > > > > Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 08:52:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA29607; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:52:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:52:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:43:52 -0500 (CDT) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: It just goes... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"AkUbR.0.Qz6.q-eJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. Todd Madson Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 10:07:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA09534; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:07:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:07:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <02f201bea911$96525970$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:54:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"zOnu61.0.I42.I7gJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Humm, good question. During an evening's performance I mostly tweak on the 8ths/beat and SYNC parameters. I use two EDPs and some compostions require synchronized operations while others use unsynchronized loops. Occasionally, I'll tweak MoreLoops. Not to be excessive, but I'd suggest thirty-two (32) would be more than enough for most people and adequate for the "power-looper" maniac. Sixteen (16) would probably be fine for normal, well-adjusted loopers who have a real life. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 10:14:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA10839; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:14:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:14:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <02e501bea90f$ccab3b10$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: Loop length query Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:41:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"_j3dZ3.0.FY1.8xfJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'd guess that 60% of my loops are longer than 10 seconds. Some stretch to a minute or so. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 10:30:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA14085; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <02fd01bea912$2b476fc0$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> From: "Dennis W. Leas" To: Subject: Re: It just goes... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:58:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"oNvrt.0.kF2.3BgJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ...through the night, maybe, but I'm gone in the afternoon and my cat has mental problems already (delusions of grandeur, he thinks he's God).... Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com >Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the >afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. > > >Todd Madson >Musician, Mountain Biker, Stunt Kite Flyer, BeOS/MacOS/Linux/WinNt user. >http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 10:45:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA16438; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:45:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:45:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:07:13 +0100 (BST) From: Jim Carter To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: It just goes... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990528084455.007f0a50@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"QZ7O83.0.0P2.9DgJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com One evening I achieved a really soothing loop (heavenly guitar choir - you know the shit), lay down with a beer to listen and woke up about four hours later. Now that's catatonic. Jim Carter e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 09:52:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA06932; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:52:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:52:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990528084455.007f0a50@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:44:55 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: It just goes... In-Reply-To: <374E97C4.E9B0186E@minds-eye.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"qUkOo.0.QM1.xsfJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yessir. I did that one evening with a longer looped bass and guitar figure. It was in a room in the house that was a bit isolated from the rest, so I would wander off for a while and forget about it. When I'd come back to the room, some time later, I would be surprised, and go "Oh, yeah!" when I heard the loop still going. Occasionally, with longer loops like this, you can hear things over time that you otherwise wouldn't. I've gotten some nice ideas from listening to a repeated figure for an extended length. Jeff McLeod At 09:19 AM 5/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >> Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the >> afternoon? __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 11:00:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA19394; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:00:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:00:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374E66F3.4184D804@texas.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:50:44 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: It just goes... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"clZKI3.0.7C4.GpgJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this is one of the great things in life. Todd Madson wrote: > Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the > afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 10:30:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA14065; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:30:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: floyd@voicenet.com Date: 28 May 1999 14:24:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19990528142403.14378.qmail@unix01.voicenet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: It just goes... Resent-Message-ID: <"Um1Pd1.0.f23.MSgJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Todd Madson wrote: > Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the > afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. > I do this quite often. I'll get a loop going and listen for a while. Then perhaps I'll go off and do something else around the house, leaving the loop going and loud enough to hear parts of it. I'll come back to the studio several minutes or an hour or so later and listen some more. If I still really dig it I might add some more to it and/or record it into my Macintosh to save for a rainy day or even upload it to my WEB pages. ----- Floyd Miller http://www.studiodust.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 11:44:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA28316; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:44:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:44:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <83f8328f.24801239@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:37:29 EDT Subject: Re: It just goes... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"x85B-3.0.hf6.wXhJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com this is your brain GGFDGFJRRGDVNVFGBlg this is your brain on loops ahhhhhhhhahhhhhhhhhahhhhhhhhh.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 11:10:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA21593; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990528150355.53364.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [134.174.151.250] From: "Sean Witters" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boston Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:03:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"mWRj.0.705.32hJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dain, I moved to Boston last fall from Burlington, Vt; here's my take on the music scene: Alt-Rock still rules the clubs here (ya know a bill with six bands on it all trying to sound like the Pixes or Pavement). There is a Jazz pulse but if you want a heartbeat go to New York. In Boston you have to seek out your musical experiences with a bit more diligence. The most interesting stuff seems to happen in random places, old churches, galleries and microscopic bars. Good stuff does happen with reasonable regularity at the Somerville Theatre, the Middle East, and (occasionally) the Paradise; of course, who can miss The Fringe with Garzone and Gullatti on Mondays at the Lizard Lounge in Cambridge. I've left out the Regatta Bar because I don't like it, but it does feature top jazz performers (B.Marsalis, Abercrombie, Either Orch., Sco...) in an "intimate setting". The downside with that place is that it's in the most exclusive hotel in Cambridge, the room is sterile and the audience is generally a bunch of "refined" jazz conniseurs who have kenny-g along side their copy of "Kind of Blue" (was that bitter, sorry). Berklee provides plenty of musicians but they seem to me to be off in their own little world; of course, if you want really scary horn players there is the New England Conservatory. I've made some contacts but all the musicians I've met so far are either not interesting or are totally unreliable (come to think of it that's kind of the way it goes everywhere; maybe I've just run out of patience). There are plenty of Music stores, my two current favorites are New England Vintage guitars (a guitar/amp repair shop that doubles as the jawa set from Star Wars) and Mr. Music which has a great collection of used Guitars and Amps. There are also the usual suspects, Guitar Center (echo..center, center)and Daddy's Junk Music. That's my synopsis. I've lived here for 8 months and I still haven't really figured this place out, either. Perhaps I'm missing out on something in Boston. Anyone have some tips? Is there a mecca I haven't discovered yet? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 12:02:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA32020; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:02:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:02:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002101bea922$93ba60c0$7f22dacf@sgoodman> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: It just goes... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:55:57 -0700 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Resent-Message-ID: <"dkrhx3.0.TS7.OohJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Presently I'm listening to a loop that was started last Monday, and I've added to in dribs and drabs ever since. I too love doing this. And a great tool for conceptualizing melodies also. Stephen Goodman * It's the Loop of the Week! EarthLight Productions * http://www.earthlight.net From: Todd Madson > Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the > afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 11:29:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA25432; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:29:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:29:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Dpcoffin@aol.com'" , "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Loop length query Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:03:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"XFnV1.0.F35.u2hJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello. My name is David. My longest loop was 196 seconds. The fun in really long loops is, not only is the audience suprized when something they remember comes around again so long after they first heard it, the musician is too! David K -----Original Message----- From: Dpcoffin@aol.com [mailto:Dpcoffin@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 9:10 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Loop length query Topic suggestion: How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 sec.? Maybe it's just because all my loopers max out at 10 sec, or much less, that I've focused my own looping--which isn't what I mainly do, BTW (sound design and composition come a little ahead of looping, but not by much, I guess) ---primarily on the rhythms produced by the length of the loop itself, rather than, say, the phrasing of the loop material, or the construction of backing tracks, making longer looping times less interesting to me than fool-proof, flexible, interactive and intuitive loop control, and multi-tap, panning, and other rhythmic possibilities inherent in complex stereo delays. My GT-5, VG-8...even the sold-and-now-missed Vortex have all provided MUCHO Looping fun at well under 2 sec. When I DO go for a longer "backing" loop, I tend to set up some FX to blur or annihilate the sense of a repeat within a fairly sparse harmonic looping texture using a slow LFO or a filter or phaser. Comments on how you use longer loops, or don't, welcome.... David Coffin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 11:30:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA25827; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:30:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:30:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374EB379.4875@voicenet.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:17:13 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: It just goes... References: <374E66F3.4184D804@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GxFrS3.0.Nr5.xJhJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the > > afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. Back before I had any looping tools I used to run guitar into my ibanez analog delay and mix this up for many an afternoon. Once when I was inviting my neighbors to a gig they asked "Are you going to play the Vacum cleaner song?" I had no idea what they were talking about until they explained on occasion they hear me starting off playing guitar and then it turns into about an hour or two of me cleaning the house using what sounds like industrial tools. Of course I thanked them for their patience and assured them the set would indeed include an extended romp through the hoover factory. Funny thing, they never showed up for the gig... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 13:37:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA21335; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:37:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:37:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905281705.NAA20468@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Zappa music...city of TINY loops.... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:02:45 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rhedz2.0.Pa3.zpiJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all i gotta be honest - i do only about 1-2 loops in this band!! as part of the crazy jam in "King Kong"... but nevertheless - i know there's some Zappa heads in here. Frank actually does a bunch of looping starting in say 84 - he would trap a chord or a tweaked out odd-time line, let it loop and solo over it ...check out "guitar" or " does humor belong in music ?"...anyway... We, (project object) will be setting off on a 12 date tour - in mid June 99 - Bringing you a ton of Zappa music - performed live on stage. And - with Frank's lead vocalist and rhythm guitarist Ike Willis. Ike first appeared on JOE'S GARAGE (as Joe) and was on every subsequent Zappa tour excepy 81-82 and every LP/CD with vocal content.... So--- scoot over to the site http://www.projectobject.com and get some info.... - it's all east coast, sorry - but we'll be as far south as Towson MD, as far north as Buffalo NY....wif Boston just added (see ya Dreamchild-ers...!???) Jun 9-20 Project Object with Ike Willis on Guitar & Vocals performing the Music of Frank Zappa peace, pls email me for more info, to get on our email list - or check the page!! thanks, andre' -project object- self promotional digital junket off. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 14:57:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA04707; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:57:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:57:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <8242ddfa.24803423@aol.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:02:11 EDT Subject: Re: Hawkeye's EDP has been sold. Thanks to all who inquired. To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"fuatY1.0.dc6.SfjJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was getting 15 to 20 calls and as many e-mails a day about the EDP. So... Gibson/Opcode needs to get it in gear. I may (& probably will) want to get another EDP sometime in the future, when I've annihilated a few of the possibilities with samplers. It's a sad day to see the beast go down the road, but it needs a home where it will be put to greater use. I am putting together a short paper on live performance looping with sequencers and samplers. As with all other looping experiments, the experience so far has been mesmerizing and wonderful. And about as 'seat of the pants' as my EDP meditations (or whatever they were). Thanks again all, Bill Reiter (musically 'BoomSlang') From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 14:32:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA32747; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:32:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:32:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:43:53 -0400 (EDT) From: billfox@lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199905281743.NAA25581@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"C57k53.0.vX5.tNjJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #116 May 27, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on the North East Art Rock Festival (NEARfest). Special guest Chad Hutchinson, webmaster of the Ghostland web site and Vice President of NEARfest presented the music of the bands to be appearing at the inaugural NEARfest. Ghostland : http://ghostland.com NEARfest : http://ghostland.com/nearfest EMUSIC Focus : http://www.wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/focus.html ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Ivo Keers Purple Galaxy Crystal Concerto in Epsilon (PNW) VA [Stratosphere] If All Was Clear Soundscape Gallery 3 (Lektronic Soundscapes) Liveform Aquatic Bird In Harmony (Salisbury Sound) VA [Protogonos] Chlorine Girl's Reverie Mind Out (Wandering Aimlessly) Bil Vermette Lunarphase Geophobia (Rainforest) Biff Johnson Dawn Prey Mirage at the Crossroads (P&C Broad Vista) VA [Dave Fulton] Floating in Two Thirds Weightless, Effortless (Hypnos) AirSculpture Slow Glass Attrition System (Neu Harmony) VA [Chris Harvey] Biomorph Sampler Vol. 1 (AD Music) Vidna Obmana Landscape in Obscurity* Landscape in Obscurity (Hypnos) 12:00 am IQ Widow's Peak Forever Live (GEP) IQ The Thousand Days Forever Live (GEP) Scott McGill Luggage The Hand Farm (Train) Alaska Bardanes Alaska (Lifescape) Alaska Reason to Wonder Alaska (Lifescape) Nathan Mahl Orgasmik Out-Burst (Pt 3) Parallel Eccentricities (none) Nathan Mahl Schizophrenia Parallel Eccentricities (none) Crucible The Salamander Tall Tales (none) Spock's Beard In the Mouth of Madness Kindness of Strangers (Radiant) Spock's Beard June Kindness of Strangers (Radiant) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will begin a month-long focus on the British group AirSculpture. The Feature CD at Midnight will be Impossible Geometries on Neu Harmony. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 14:57:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA04775; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:57:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:57:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374EDCE4.FF7BAE5C@best.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:14:00 -0700 From: Allan Hoeltje Reply-To: ahoeltje@best.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Opcode sells EDP Division References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"PWDk92.0.vt6.tkjJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does this mean that it would be legal to sell the EDP as a do-it-yourself kit? I suppose it's the software in the box that's really the thing of value. Hmmm, for UNIX we have Gnu, for Loop how about Gnuoop? An open architecture looping software foundation could be interesting. A Loop OS written in tiny C and ported to any number of micro processors. I can see it now, a looping box with internal hard disk, PCMCIA, expansion slots, delay times in terms of hours, not seconds. Oh, oh, time to get back to work! Allan Kim Flint wrote: > > Gibson doesn't own the echoplex, they license it from Aurisis Research. And > the license is... non-exclusive! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 15:53:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA16280; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:53:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:53:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008201bea942$4f6f9140$e30eb3d1@jeancolin> From: "Jean or Colin Jenkinson" To: Subject: Re: It just goes... Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:40:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"YYwd-2.0.Ma3.A9lJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com One evening I had a loop going on my boomarang and let it run all night. The next morning my cat thought she was God. I kept this loop for the next evening. That evening I put it into reverse mode. The next morning my cat thought she was doG. Colin Jenkinson | nosnikneJ niloC jeancolin@earthlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 16:01:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA18100; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:01:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:01:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374EF301.6594E72D@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:48:17 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EMUSIC Playlist References: <199905281743.NAA25581@badboy.micro.lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"tucOk1.0.cv3.5FlJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is any of this availiable online? I searched the links but to no avail. thanks, jeff William_B_Fox wrote: > Playlist for "EMUSIC" > > "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday > at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in > Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html > > Show #116 May 27, 1999. > Host: Bill Fox http://www.wdiyfm.org > billfox@fast.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 16:55:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27840; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:55:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:55:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:26:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 References: <3.0.3.32.19990527201357.006a87b8@pop.flash.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990527201357.006a87b8@pop.flash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Resent-Message-ID: <"jtjPY3.0.OW5.xmlJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Larry Clinton asked:- >Is anyone using the Zoom 2100 unit for looping, or at all? I haven't been >able to find anything about it except the catalog write-ups. I purchased the 2100 a few weeks ago to use mainly as a looping device. There are 4 ways to create loops in real time:- 1. The Jam Play mode allows up to three 5 second samples. (Not that effective actually, as the sampled 'phrases' cut out rather abruptly when the foot trigger is released!) 2. Sampler - Up to 32 second sampling, with a basic Timestretch feature. (Although this is a useful feature it isn't really any good for live looping, as there are no overdub facilities.) 3. Ping-Pong Delay - Although not 'infinite' you can create pp delays of up to 10 seconds with massive feedback times. (This effect can also be combined with other internal fx to create interesting textures.) 4. Sound-On-Sound - Although limited to 6 seconds tops, this feature allows the user to either overdub parts or simply play along with the main loop. (Again, this feature can incorporate other effects, which can be tweaked in real time via the front panel.) I chose this unit over the Akai Headrush, and would recommend it for the Sound-On-Sound feature alone. Excellent value for money. Incidentally, you can download the full manual from the UK Zoom website:- http://zoom.co.jp/english/home/html Cheers, Lee Fletcher -- Lee Fletcher From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 17:03:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA29409; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:03:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:03:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: http://www.opcode.com/forms/feedback.html Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:37:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"PHCZX1.0.o56.aylJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK - I'll play ring-leader on this one. It's time to make a concerted push to let OPCODE know their is pent-up demand for the EDP. If you are: 1) Waiting to receive an EDP you have already ordered, or 2) Want to buy a first or supplimental EDP, or 3) Can't find an EDP in stores to check-out, or 4) Represent a dealer/retailer and want stock the EDP, then... ...please go to the following link/page: http://www.opcode.com/forms/feedback.html and add a Product Suggestion, asking when about EDP availability. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 17:08:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA30313; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:08:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:08:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: New Features for EDP & OPCODE Commitment to EDP Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:45:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"AdOEE1.0.NN6.H3mJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Folks - If you were being asked to pick-up responsibility for an orphaned child, would a clamour of things to fix, or would all the fun and profit you can enjoy in the future be more attractive to you? That is to say, I would suggest we work very hard to first foster real commitment to the EDP from OPCODE, before we start to think about modifications and improvements to the hardware. The software comes from Kim & Matthias, so we can continue to pester them with our brainstorms and suggestions. But changing the hardware is another issue. That's my opinion anyway. OK. Getting off of the soap box now... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 18:32:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA11661; Fri, 28 May 1999 18:32:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:32:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374F192A.F18@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:31:06 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Problem References: <374E6293.E9EF8A0D@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0lpMU1.0.a82.hGnJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I thought maybe it has to do with changing drum machine patterns during > the loop- my Dr-5 is in sync- I can't really think of anything else that > wouldn't be hardware or simply a defective unit- Has anyone else > experienced this problem? > I can put the sound on my website if need be- > > Your input is greatly appreciated- I think I know what the problem is here. It has to do with input levels that happen to clip or distort when the initial cycle is being recorded. If a preliminary signal starts clipping past a certain point when you're recording your first pass (between the time that you hit "Record" and whatever button you use to close the loop), then the unit's feedback seems to get locked into a "scaling down" syndrome. You'll notice that the feedback LED should be flickering into the orange or red at certain points during this loop; that tends to be the clincher. I don't know exactly what's going on internally, but theĘreal-world result is that theĘfeedback of the unit gets scaled back to a value somewhat less than 100%, so that the loop will fade out after several minutes. Even if you let the loop die down to a lower level and then overdub new layers on top which don't clip, the feedback seems to stay locked in this "scaled down" mode. You basically have to erase this loop and begin completely anew with a new preliminary cycle (preferably after scaling back the input levels!) The only times I've ever noticed this syndrome are, as I described, when the input is hot enough that it noticably clips, and the feedback LED glows orange or red at some point in the cycle. Next time you notice this problem, check the feedback LED (or it input LED as you're recording your preliminary cycle) and see if you notice the same thing. Good luck, --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 23:05:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17047; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:05:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:05:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990529023303.57883.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.72.228] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: any 'rangs for sale? Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:33:03 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"eslfa3.0.d83.68rJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone have a Boomerang they want to sell me? Please respond to me off the list. ---//////-------///-----///------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher Digital "GIGPIX" : http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////-------------//----------///////-- _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri May 28 23:09:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17662; Fri, 28 May 1999 23:09:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:09:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905290252.WAA15241@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:52:48 -0400 Subject: Re: any 'rangs for sale? From: "Tommy Kochel" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"i78pk1.0.Ok3.tPrJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Does anyone have a Boomerang they want to sell me? Please respond to me off > the list. FYI, I have a 32-second JamMan in Mint condition I'm ready to sell. Tommy Kochel 0 # //> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 23:20:13 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: EDP Decay Prob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eIfDO1.0.6O4.zQuJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks Andre for your help- I am sorry to say that although your suggestion makes sense to me I don't think clipping is the culprit- I am pretty mindful of my input levels and rarely even see the orange led light if ever- plus last night I am sure my level was just flickering the green- not even 100% solidly lit- I think my unit is a bit quirky- sometimes but far from rarely- when I turn it on it is non responsive and the screen shows all led lights lit but not at full brightness- it looks like all "888"ect. I think I may have to try to get some help from OpcodeGibsonOberheim but the chances of that are probably a little slim! Plus I have no idea what their support policy is or how they implement- I will have to look into it. :( I will keep experimenting to see if I can duplicate the problem based on a certain setup- I will try with no midi connections etc but it seems to be like a computer that has an error and needs to be re booted- but should not be happening with this unit- Thanks again- I really appreciate the help Clifford Andre wrote: I think I know what the problem is here. It has to do with input levels that happen to clip or distort when the initial cycle is being recorded. If a preliminary signal starts clipping past a certain point when you're recording your first pass (between the time that you hit "Record" and whatever button you use to close the loop), then the unit's feedback seems to get locked into a "scaling down" syndrome............... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 03:49:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA31352; Sat, 29 May 1999 03:49:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 03:49:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 04:29:51 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: New Features for EDP & OPCODE Commitment to EDP Resent-Message-ID: <"soUdb3.0.Lx6.eLvJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sounds very reasonable to me, Dave >If you were being asked to pick-up responsibility for an orphaned child, >would a clamour of things to fix, or would all the fun and profit you can >enjoy in the future be more attractive to you? > >That is to say, I would suggest we work very hard to first foster real >commitment to the EDP from OPCODE, before we start to think about >modifications and improvements to the hardware. > >The software comes from Kim & Matthias, so we can continue to pester them >with our brainstorms and suggestions. > >But changing the hardware is another issue. ... and may happen through us, too, after the upgrade... * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 07:39:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA22002; Sat, 29 May 1999 07:39:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 07:39:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374F871D.218A541B@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 04:10:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Decay Prob Resent-Message-ID: <"5NSSz1.0.kX4.ghyJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:20 PM -0700 5/28/99, Clifford Novey wrote: >looks like all "888"ect. I think I may have to try to get some help from >OpcodeGibsonOberheim but the chances of that are probably a little slim! >Plus I have no idea what their support policy is or how they implement- >I will have to look into it. :( oh, they are still doing repairs and warranty service and all that! The guy doing it is really good too, Richard Akers. Nice fellow. You might want to contact Mike Ayers , customer service guy, and see if he can get you some help with that. (they're just moving the production to a new place, not closing everything up!) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 09:35:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA05467; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:35:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:35:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990529131931.421.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 06:19:31 -0700 (PDT) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: Boston To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"Tyg7g.0.qp.Da-Jt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The New England Conservatory has concerts nearly every night of the week and most are free. They feature faculty, students, and/or guest musicians and are almost always very musical. Just check out the faculty list sometime. --- Sean Witters wrote: > Dain, > I moved to Boston last fall from Burlington, Vt; > here's my take on the music > scene: Alt-Rock still rules the clubs here (ya know > a bill with six bands > on it all trying to sound like the Pixes or > Pavement). There is a Jazz > pulse but if you want a heartbeat go to New York. > In Boston you have to > seek out your musical experiences with a bit more > diligence. The most > interesting stuff seems to happen in random places, > old churches, galleries > and microscopic bars. Good stuff does happen with > reasonable regularity at > the Somerville Theatre, the Middle East, and > (occasionally) the Paradise; of > course, who can miss The Fringe with Garzone and > Gullatti on Mondays at the > Lizard Lounge in Cambridge. I've left out the > Regatta Bar because I don't > like it, but it does feature top jazz performers > (B.Marsalis, Abercrombie, > Either Orch., Sco...) in an "intimate setting". The > downside with that > place is that it's in the most exclusive hotel in > Cambridge, the room is > sterile and the audience is generally a bunch of > "refined" jazz conniseurs > who have kenny-g along side their copy of "Kind of > Blue" (was that bitter, > sorry). > Berklee provides plenty of musicians but they seem > to me to be off in their > own little world; of course, if you want really > scary horn players there is > the New England Conservatory. I've made some > contacts but all the musicians > I've met so far are either not interesting or are > totally unreliable (come > to think of it that's kind of the way it goes > everywhere; maybe I've just > run out of patience). > There are plenty of Music stores, my two current > favorites are New England > Vintage guitars (a guitar/amp repair shop that > doubles as the jawa set from > Star Wars) and Mr. Music which has a great > collection of used Guitars and > Amps. There are also the usual suspects, Guitar > Center (echo..center, > center)and Daddy's Junk Music. > That's my synopsis. I've lived here for 8 months > and I still haven't really > figured this place out, either. Perhaps I'm missing > out on something in > Boston. Anyone have some tips? Is there a mecca I > haven't discovered yet? > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 12:36:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA29061; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:36:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:36:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:34:25 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: BeatSyncing in the studio / poslooping Resent-Message-ID: <"06aNR1.0.Qj6.VK1Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was working on a session I recorded to two tracks last year with Marcelo Bernardes (yes, I am behind!). I did not install a Plex for him, but he played pretty loopy in some part, so I wanted to loop his track to make it richer/fater/more regular. I was happy to find a solution: On my track, there was a outstanding bass tone in the loop. So I fed the guitar track through an aux send into BeatSync and regulated its level so that the SyncLED only flashed at that one note. The sax track I sent through another aux to Input and recorded the result on a separate track while operating the Plex functions. Fun! It worked perfectly up to the guitar solo, that contained higher peaks than the bass tone and disturbed the sync. So I simply closed the send during the solo and it continued reasonably in time. This is a serious method, but depends a lot on the sound material. I then tried to sync an average pop song and it worked partially. It depends totaly on the mix and the bass drum pattern. With more than one bass drum hit/bar, I suggest to try a steep filter (I do not have a parametric Eq here exept the plug in, which is clumsy for this) that tunes to a bass note that repeats once/loop. Anyone made such experiences? * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 12:32:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA28568; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:32:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:32:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:34:58 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: Loop length query Resent-Message-ID: <"2h8L12.0.Ek6.oK1Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >The fun in really long loops is, not only is the audience suprized when >something they remember comes around again so long after they first heard >it, the musician is too! I have done a lot of those surprize loops lately. Even after 30 seconds, I do not remember what I played and have to react somehow. I sometimes start simply with a melody and then put a second and a bass line over it. Such the harmonies become more or less defined and more can be elaborated. I find it especially interesting to fade during some part of a long loop and replace it with something new. Often there is an ostinato from a multiplied original short loop which fades in that part and when it comes back again, I feel like overdubbing to make it grow more even and then relax more when the faded part comes back. Thus the dynamic increases and you ride on a long growing wave like Gamelan or so. I must admit though that many friends long for my old works with short loops. They are easyer to follow. I wonder whether loops naturally become longer with evolution and the listener will like them better after listening more (and after we learn to play them better :-) Or whether we are just curious to squeeze out the marvelous long memory but the stuck at some point... * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 13:08:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA01059; Sat, 29 May 1999 13:08:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:08:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37502BFB.F49761F6@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 13:03:41 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. References: <02f201bea911$96525970$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"B72iC2.0.e_7.Ws1Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's a suggestion: Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version of the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. Is this possible? Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 14:37:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA13008; Sat, 29 May 1999 14:37:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:37:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37502CBF.86FD61D2@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:06:55 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: BeatSyncing in the studio / poslooping References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bR07Q2.0.8Z2.yz2Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've done something approaching Yesterday The idea was to extract the groove from a wav drum loop to feed it afterward in a sequencer as a mod source for effects here is the routing and processing i used (all vst plugs) drum loop---Dpole band pass---gate----write the resulting wave----recycle-----midifile the band pass filter is for selecting the drum loop instrument (low freq for the BD med freq for the snare etc..) the gate is for giving me clear impulses edges of the D loop freq selection I wrote to wav 3 "grooves" each giving me the groove of a frequency band those 3 wav were analyzed in recycle resulting in 3 midi files playing the 3 grooves back in cubase where each midi file on its track is now considered as a trig for a multieffect the parameter I wanted to control was the filter in my G force so I assigned a low value to the BD track a medium value to the snare and a high value to the hat instant groove when you play the guitar "morphed" by a drum beat Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 14:50:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA15263; Sat, 29 May 1999 14:50:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:50:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3750303A.2204EEC6@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:21:46 +0200 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. References: <02f201bea911$96525970$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> <37502BFB.F49761F6@mailbox.syr.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1RitZ1.0.z33.wB3Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > Here's a suggestion: > > Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the > software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it > sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version of > the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could > sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. > > Is this possible? Mark Its probably possible but then the loopers delight would be transformed in a bug report, computer configuration hell , all the fatiguing background noize you see/hear in every music software forum remember there is no bug in the EDP software v5 (there is one but I wont tell !):-) Claude PS: the PC platform is probably the best for that. HIHIHI hihihi (sorry couldn't resist) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 15:52:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24093; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:52:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:52:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Mike McGary" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: RE: EDP Foot Pedal Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000401beaa07$987d6400$526ad0d0@Ugh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <37497F8F.C6641153@vexcel.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"uGczy3.0.ja4.xo3Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Does anybody have a foot pedal that they'd like to part with? Following directions on Kim's website, I just built a pedal for a friend who has one backordered. I'll put an image up when I get a chance. Cost: ~$10 in the finished pedal. I bought extra resisters so I spent more. I made the body out of a 2" heavy gauge PVC pipe that I split down the middle. It takes up much less room that the stock EDP pedal. Note: I tried to add the 'parameter' button (with a on/off switch on the back so it could be disabled for live performances)...but was not successful. The web site say 28.0K Ohm is the right value, but the original spec called for 33.2K Ohm. The 28.0K resister triggered the MULTIPLY function (huh?), and the 33.2K triggers the parameter...but only every once in a while. Not repeatable...and not usable (you can't seem to 'untrigger' it). It could be a problem with my construction, but I tried several resisters...and tried it by hand (touching the resister to the cord directly). The rest of the pedal works like the stock one. -Mike McGary From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 15:58:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA25091; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:58:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:58:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990529192819.79826.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [152.2.53.102] From: "David Caplivski" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:28:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"WbRPu1.0.605.u_3Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From: Claude Voit >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. >Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:21:46 +0200 > >Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > > > Here's a suggestion: > > > > Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the > > software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it > > sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version of > > the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could > > sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. > > > > Is this possible? > >Mark >Its probably possible >but then the loopers delight would be transformed in a bug report, >computer configuration hell , all the fatiguing background noize you >see/hear in every music software forum > >remember there is no bug in the EDP software v5 (there is one but I wont >tell !):-) > >Claude > > >PS: the PC platform is probably the best for that. > > >HIHIHI hihihi (sorry couldn't resist) > I disagree. Couldn't someone run a labtop (i.e. G3 powerbook) with running Digital Performer's P.O.L.A.R. software (performance orietated looping audio recording) fullly equiped with a recording gate and automatic loop playback functions and achieve more because of the computer's memory and other feature's. It's an expensive proposition but one I'm looking into because the idea of having a portable studio and synthesizer and looping brain is my holy grail right now. The problem I foresee with POLAR's recording gate function is not so much start times but stop times. But then again you could bypass this function and manually trigger start and stop times. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 15:58:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA25090; Sat, 29 May 1999 15:58:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:58:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990529192134.23025.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [152.163.197.63] From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: UnSubscribe Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:21:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"aeyjj3.0._p4.xv3Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I want out.... for now thanx. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 17:52:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA07433; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:52:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:52:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990529212016.23330.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:20:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: UnSubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"FiBNB3.0.rj.fc5Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FYI In order to unsubscribe, you have to hit the UNDO button while connected to the internet making sure the infrared beam on your looper can reach your computer. --Deviant D_Master Baiter AKA Randy Jones --- Devious D_MasterMixer wrote: > I want out.... for now thanx. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 18:07:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA09384; Sat, 29 May 1999 18:07:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:07:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37505E0C.26CCA590@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 14:37:16 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Decay Prob References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yzUgb3.0.oL1.Gu5Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks Kim- I will contact them and see if they might sus it out for me- Cliff Kim Flint wrote: > oh, they are still doing repairs and warranty service and all that! The guy > doing it is really good too, Richard Akers. Nice fellow. You might want to > contact Mike Ayers , customer service guy, and see if he > can get you some help with that. (they're just moving the production to a new > place, not closing everything up!) > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 20:59:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA32186; Sat, 29 May 1999 20:59:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:59:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37508681.D55A37A3@iamerica.net> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:29:53 -0500 From: Micah X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Delight Subject: 2290...curios Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3cZ2I3.0._A7.3Y8Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hmmmm. I've heard mention of guys that can do custom modifications of old Lexicon delays to obtain long delay and looping. Does anyone know of someone who might be savvy enough to upgrade my 2290 to achieve the max 32 seconds of sampling?? TC obviously doesn't make the memory cards anymore, so I assume it would involve custom made hardware. I know very little about these matters, so I have no idea if this would be practical or cost-efficient....I don't even know if it is humanly possible. If this is not a viable alternative, I'll probably search for a fully loaded used 2290 on the net (which I do see from time to time). I'll buy it up and then sell my current one for as little loss as possible for the exchange. Oh well, not that big of a deal I suppose. Micah From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 21:44:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA05631; Sat, 29 May 1999 21:44:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:44:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004401beaa3b$13d6f700$a87afecc@default> From: "Mark Kata" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: Loop Length Query Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 21:23:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01BEAA19.8BC991E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"tyKn71.0.Qm.RD9Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BEAA19.8BC991E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like working with long loops too, especially 10 seconds and over. = However, is anyone using short loops--say under 500 milliseconds? I've experimented with them a bit, but only altering the delay times and = making them shorter or longer (and increasing or decreasing their = pitches). What other things can be done with short loops? Mark Kata Shelby Township, Michigan US ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BEAA19.8BC991E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I like working with long loops too, = especially=20 10 seconds and over.  However, is anyone using short loops--say = under 500=20 milliseconds?
 
I've experimented with them a bit, = but only=20 altering the delay times and making them shorter or longer (and = increasing or=20 decreasing their pitches).  What other things can be done with = short=20 loops?
 
Mark Kata
Shelby Township, Michigan=20 US
------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BEAA19.8BC991E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 22:01:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA08182; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:01:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:01:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000401beaa07$987d6400$526ad0d0@Ugh> References: <37497F8F.C6641153@vexcel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:45:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: EDP Foot Pedal Resent-Message-ID: <"GWIMf3.0.rN1.WV9Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:15 PM -0700 5/29/99, Mike McGary wrote: >> Does anybody have a foot pedal that they'd like to part with? > >Following directions on Kim's website, I just built a pedal >for a friend who has one backordered. I'll put an image up >when I get a chance. > >Cost: ~$10 in the finished pedal. I bought extra resisters so I spent > more. > >I made the body out of a 2" heavy gauge PVC pipe that I split down >the middle. It takes up much less room that the stock EDP pedal. that's a clever way to do it, and cheap! >Note: I tried to add the 'parameter' button (with a on/off switch on >the back so it could be disabled for live performances)...but was not >successful. The web site say 28.0K Ohm is the right value, but the >original spec called for 33.2K Ohm. The 28.0K resister triggered the >MULTIPLY function (huh?), and the 33.2K triggers the parameter...but >only every once in a while. Not repeatable...and not usable (you can't >seem to 'untrigger' it). It could be a problem with my construction, >but I tried several resisters...and tried it by hand (touching the resister >to the cord directly). The rest of the pedal works like the stock one. I just tried this parameter thing and had the same trouble. I guess we'll look at it and see if the software can read it better for a future version. Its something we never really tested, since it wasn't part of the production switch. We just stuck it in the soft, thinking it might be useful for somebody, and let it go.... I'll ket you know what we figure out. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 22:29:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA11856; Sat, 29 May 1999 22:29:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:29:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <374E87EC.91876573@earthlink.net> References: <374E6293.E9EF8A0D@earthlink.net> <374E7A6C.37BF17A7@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:00:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP Problem Resent-Message-ID: <"ZHU4.0.Ku1.3k9Kt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 5:11 AM -0700 5/28/99, Clifford Novey wrote: >Ok, sorry to be so busy with the postings- > >I turned the EDP off and upon restarting it worked fine- this is not good >news- >Maybe the head honchos have some clues?? > I do have one thought, based on this. I don't know if it helps, its all conjecture at the moment.... When the machine is first turned on, we do a calibration of the digital audio parts. We also do this whenever you reset the loop, and at regular intervals if you leave it sitting there in reset. The point of this is to take care of offsets that can develop in the digital audio convertor parts as they warm up. So let's say you turn the echoplex on when it's cold and immediately record a loop and leave it going for a long time. Then after it's running for a while, this fade thing starts to happen. It could be that an offset has developed as the digital audio parts warmed up, gotten bad enough to cause this problem, and we haven't had any chance to do our calibration. (we can't do it while the loop is going, since it causes a dropout/pop.) When you turn it off and back on again, the digital audio part gets calibrated again and is already warmed up, and everything is fine. You also might try pressing reset, and see if that does it since that also runs the calibration. we'll look into it and see if we come up with anything else. It's weird, because most units are fine and never do this. It could be that the digital audio part in yours has an unusual offset problem, or maybe it's something else altogether... hard to diagnose by email! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat May 29 23:13:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17797; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:13:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:13:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990529230143.006ab7c4@pop.flash.net> X-Sender: larryc3@pop.flash.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:01:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Larry Clinton Subject: Re: any 'rangs for sale? In-Reply-To: <199905290252.WAA15241@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"VFZBZ1.0.kZ3.NUAKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tommy, How much do you want for that Jam Man? Larry At 10:52 PM 5/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >> Does anyone have a Boomerang they want to sell me? Please respond to me off >> the list. > >FYI, I have a 32-second JamMan in Mint condition I'm ready to sell. > >Tommy Kochel > > 0 # > //> > //|\ > |/ >Chapman Stick >Teak Grand #1325 >6+6 Matched Reciprocal Tuning > >"I find it hard to take offense at, or be insulted by, a commentary which >demonstrates that life without sentience is not only possible but ongoing." >- Robert Fripp, 1997, Epitaph boxed set booklet. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 02:19:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA14820; Sun, 30 May 1999 02:19:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:19:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3750DFF0.D8B2844D@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:51:30 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: P.O.L.A.R demo References: <19990529192819.79826.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SVgdc1.0.mc2.K6DKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Is there a Digital Performer's P.O.L.A.R demo out and about? I couldn't find one. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 02:19:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA14817; Sun, 30 May 1999 02:19:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 02:19:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3750DF22.594A1A86@mailbox.syr.edu> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:48:03 -0500 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: msottila@mailbox.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loop Length Query References: <004401beaa3b$13d6f700$a87afecc@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"b4BRG2.0.XS2.A3DKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You can get some really cool effects if you use a really short loop and then pitch shift the output. For fun, control the interval (and loop length) with a foot pedal, if you have such toys. Fun! Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 07:59:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA24818; Sun, 30 May 1999 07:59:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 07:59:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Phaedebk@aol.com Message-ID: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 07:24:25 EDT Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"JoA3t2.0.5H5.N0IKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear all, I have to concur with my namesake on this one... Though I am finding that in a more live setting, it is far easier to use the Zoom2100 as a looper as a bridge unit, vs. being something along the lines of an Echoplex wherein you drop lines to it, to have it repeat them ad infinitum... Also, the click (from activating the recording to stopping it) is really noticable, but then again at $130.00 USA it is a real happening effects pedal box, especially once you have it tweaked out. On the fly tweaking is highly not recommended, but sitting back with it and just fiddling with the controls is a blast! Granted, I've only been playing with mine for a little less than 6 days, so there is a bit of learning curve... Especially, in sussing out what you are setting and what you are not. Currently, using it with solid body, hollow body, bass electric guitars, though I did give it a whirl or three with a lap dulcimer that has a pickup in it, and had lots of fun! Using a bass on it, is a trip, and I've found that with the "clean" effects that the Jam portion of looping is very nice and works great. One thing that I would like to do is to get the Expression pedal so that the volume, rates and/or depth of different effects can be used for things like volume swells and such. I noticed that it does make a bit of difference for this unit. L8r on, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 15:32:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA15472; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:32:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:32:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <375190EE.D69AE008@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:26:38 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP Problem References: <374E6293.E9EF8A0D@earthlink.net> <374E7A6C.37BF17A7@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1dgHx2.0.Gb3.w3PKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim, I will try to see if I can create some loops right when I turn it on- making sure it is stone cold each time and see if I can duplicate the results- Thank you for your input man, really- it is nice to have the minds behind the machine! Cliff Note: Anyone who wants to have a greater appreciation for their EDP should visit Mattias's website re the Loop 5 software and check out the LONG list of fixes and improvements- it gives an idea of the depth and scope of work that goes into the EDP and software- Kim Flint wrote: > ...........we'll look into it and see if we come up with anything else. It's > weird, > because most units are fine and never do this. It could be that the digital > audio part in yours has an unusual offset problem, or maybe it's something > else altogether... hard to diagnose by email! > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 18:20:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA06557; Sun, 30 May 1999 18:20:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:20:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BEAAF9.526BAEC0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers Delight'" Subject: the big where is loop music today contest Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:04:06 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"m0mkv1.0.iz.OKRKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all, two years ago, I wrote a modest little essay about the history of looping (called 'The Birth of Loop'), mainly in order to clarify that it wasn't Eno or Fripp who invented this thing, but that the roots of looping go back a little further. The essay can be found on our looper's website under 'history'. I closed the essay essentially with some lines about Fripp's kind of looping music, and with the question what the future of looping might be. My essay is clearly outdated now - there is a lot of looping in contemporary music which should be mentioned. Also, the definition of looping that I used is possibly too narrow: For me, looping meant something continuous, basically similar to Frippertronics. For many other people, loops are essentially samples, like the closed ring tape loops that were used since the earliest days of music concrete. I'd like very much to add these things to the essay, but I need your help. While in the seventies or eighties, I felt like an expert on all those genres and important musical currents, I don't feel like that any longer, so I don't feel like I should write about them myself. I got this message from rusellc@aol.com today: > Before hip hop, yes there was looping. But hip hop was the music that > made the use of loops in music. Before hip hop looping was only exprimental, > but now it is used as a basis for music. Many looping machines such as > samplers were never used the way they are now until hip hop artists used > them. In closing I'd like to say that hip hop music should be credited more > for bringing foward the use of loops creatively. That's a very interesting thought and an example for what I'd like to hear from you all: a couple of lines about the state of looping in today's music - general thoughts, opinions, examples, whatever - not necessarily just about hip hop, but about all those kinds of today's music which incorporate loops, and also about contemporary loop technologies and maybe philosophies. I'll collect the results and add them to the history essay (listing all authors of course). Looking forward to your entries, -Michael Peters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 21:11:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA28475; Sun, 30 May 1999 21:11:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:11:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990531004922.4516.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [152.2.53.90] From: "David Caplivski" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: the big where is loop music today contest Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:49:21 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Resent-Message-ID: <"xs2nR2.0.NH6.toTKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I believe that hip-hop did bring looping to the main-stream, but I also think that the underground is taking and refining a different direction. That direction would be the "live looping" that has been around for years but I think is becoming more nattural and intuitive. Anything you do on stage you can do in the studio. This is true, but I see the day where anything you do in the studio you can do on stage. And if your an engineer or so inclined then you have a head start. Am I right? or Am I...not wrong? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun May 30 22:02:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA03466; Sun, 30 May 1999 22:02:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:02:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000d01beab04$fc197be0$231bbfa8@default> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: MODULATIONS.....AGAIN! Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:29:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"ufPjt1.0.UI.zcUKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just wanted to let everyone know about the infamous movie about electronic music. It is now out on video. If you go to this link at Forced Exposure you will be able to get it yourself. I've already got mine on order. http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/lee.director.lara.html Jeff Collins From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 03:20:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA17065; Mon, 31 May 1999 03:20:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 03:20:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3752340A.D26580A0@in2win.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:02:34 +0200 From: mark Organization: in2win Interactive Learning Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: any 'rangs for sale? References: <199905290252.WAA15241@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Return-Path: mark.francombe@in2win.com Resent-Message-ID: <"UBJ5_3.0.FU3.8GZKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com how much? Tommy Kochel wrote: > > > Does anyone have a Boomerang they want to sell me? Please respond to me off > > the list. > > FYI, I have a 32-second JamMan in Mint condition I'm ready to sell. > > Tommy Kochel > > 0 # > //> > //|\ > |/ > Chapman Stick > Teak Grand #1325 > 6+6 Matched Reciprocal Tuning > > "I find it hard to take offense at, or be insulted by, a commentary which > demonstrates that life without sentience is not only possible but ongoing." > - Robert Fripp, 1997, Epitaph boxed set booklet. -- \ -\ --\ ---\ ----\ -----\ ------\ -------\ --------\ ---------\ ----------\ -----------\ ------------\ mark-red-----\ --------------\ ---------------\ work------------\ -----------------\ in2win------------\ -------------------\ multimedia-designer-\ ovre-slottsgate-5----\ 0157-oslo-------------\ tlf.--22-40-29-94------\ fax--22-42-14-24--------\ e-mail--mark@in2win.com--\ web--http-//www.in2win.com\ ---------------------------\ ----------------------------\ personal---------------------\ tlf.-22-43-10-79--------------\ mob.-91-56-99-88---------------\ mark@8day.com-------------------\ christine@8day.com---------------\ ----------------------------------\ -----------------------------------\ redweb------------------------------\ http-//www.8day.com/redweb-----------\ --------------------------------------\ ---------------------------------------\ icq-4531031-----------------------------\ -----------------------------------------\ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 06:54:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA08437; Mon, 31 May 1999 06:54:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 06:54:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:41:33 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lee Fletcher Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 References: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Resent-Message-ID: <"_ym-h2.0.zk1.RVcKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Lee, The 'click' that you describe - are you getting this when using the Sound On Sound function? I haven't come across this in any mode. I have the Expression pedal, and although I don't use it for volume (I have a separate pedal for this) it was worth buying to fully utilise the other real-time stuff such as Wah & Pitch... Cheers, (The other) Lee. In message <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com>, Phaedebk@aol.com writes >Dear all, > > I have to concur with my namesake on this one... Though I am finding >that in a more live setting, it is far easier to use the Zoom2100 as a looper >as a bridge unit, vs. being something along the lines of an Echoplex wherein >you drop lines to it, to have it repeat them ad infinitum... > > Also, the click (from activating the recording to stopping it) is >really noticable, but then again at $130.00 USA it is a real happening >effects pedal box, especially once you have it tweaked out. On the fly >tweaking is highly not recommended, but sitting back with it and just >fiddling with the controls is a blast! > > Granted, I've only been playing with mine for a little less than 6 >days, so there is a bit of learning curve... Especially, in sussing out what >you are setting and what you are not. > > Currently, using it with solid body, hollow body, bass electric >guitars, though I did give it a whirl or three with a lap dulcimer that has a >pickup in it, and had lots of fun! Using a bass on it, is a trip, and I've >found that with the "clean" effects that the Jam portion of looping is very >nice and works great. > > One thing that I would like to do is to get the Expression pedal so >that the volume, rates and/or depth of different effects can be used for >things like volume swells and such. I noticed that it does make a bit of >difference for this unit. > > L8r on, > > Lee-ohki. > -- Lee Fletcher From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 08:24:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA17980; Mon, 31 May 1999 08:24:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:24:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3750303A.2204EEC6@vtx.ch> References: <02f201bea911$96525970$1fab82cc@testserver.mdbs.com> <37502BFB.F49761F6@mailbox.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:00:44 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. Resent-Message-ID: <"TaCf4.0.qX3.KWdKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Mark Sottilaro wrote: >> Here's a suggestion: >> >> Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the >> software, then let's do away with the silicon. I've got a ton of it >> sitting in front of me right now. I'd just love a software version of >> the Echoplex that I could run on a Macintosh. Especially if it could >> sync to a MIDI sequencing program, such as Metro. >> >> Is this possible? gime some weeks to design the windows ;-) Claude answered: >Its probably possible >but then the loopers delight would be transformed in a bug report, >computer configuration hell , all the fatiguing background noize you >see/hear in every music software forum > >remember there is no bug in the EDP software v5 (there is one but I wont >tell !):-) I think you are both right and we want both versions, depending on use and $ >PS: the PC platform is probably the best for that. NO ! :-) * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 08:26:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA18217; Mon, 31 May 1999 08:26:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:26:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: matthias@pop3.bahianet.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37502CBF.86FD61D2@vtx.ch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:00:44 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: BeatSyncing in the studio / poslooping Resent-Message-ID: <"AdG8p1.0.TX3.IWdKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I've done something approaching Yesterday It seams rather different to me, but totally interesting! Its even a suggestion for Sequencer manufacturers to incorportate the "touchwah idea" into their soft! Its like a AudioToMIDIcontroller conversion, while I did a AudioToSync conversion (which may be available in some sequencers, actually?). Matthias >The idea was to extract the groove from a wav drum loop to feed it >afterward in a sequencer >as a mod source for effects > >here is the routing and processing i used (all vst plugs) > >drum loop---Dpole band pass---gate----write the resulting >wave----recycle-----midifile > >the band pass filter is for selecting the drum loop instrument (low freq >for the BD med freq for the snare etc..) > >the gate is for giving me clear impulses edges of the D loop freq >selection > >I wrote to wav 3 "grooves" each giving me the groove of a frequency band > >those 3 wav were analyzed in recycle resulting in 3 midi files playing >the 3 grooves > >back in cubase where each midi file on its track is now considered as a >trig for a multieffect > >the parameter I wanted to control was the filter in my G force so I >assigned a low value to the BD track a medium value to the snare and a >high value to the hat > >instant groove when you play the guitar "morphed" by a drum beat > >Claude * Lots of music (samples), inventions (drawings), philosophy: * ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org * Archive and mailinglist about looping: * ---> http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 08:55:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA21968; Mon, 31 May 1999 08:55:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:55:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <22d0d2b4.2483dc56@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:36:38 EDT Subject: akai headrush owners out there? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"M1MlW.0.2r4.CAeKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone own one of these puppies? how do they rate with other loopers/delays soundwise and featurewise? any information would be greatly appreciated. thank you and enjoy your day, =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 10:20:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA00688; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:20:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:20:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990531085851.00850610@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 08:58:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Zoom 2100 In-Reply-To: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"NM0e-3.0.7O7.8MfKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:24 AM 5/30/99 EDT, Lee-ohki wrote: >Dear all, > > it is far easier to use the Zoom2100 as a looper >as a bridge unit, vs. being something along the lines of an Echoplex wherein >you drop lines to it, to have it repeat them ad infinitum... > > Also, the click (from activating the recording to stopping it) is >really noticable Hmmmm. That's strange. . . . . I have two Zoom 2100s and have never experienced an audible click. It's the cleanest looper I've ever worked with. Best, Michael =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 10:48:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA04837; Mon, 31 May 1999 10:48:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:48:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990531103651.007a17d0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:36:51 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G In-Reply-To: References: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9dVy_2.0.6W.spfKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Have any of you tried Korg's ToneWorks AX1-G Guitar Multi-Effects Processor? Musician's Fiend describes it as having "a sample and play loop function for live performance which allows you to layer new parts onto repeating patterns", plus the usual assortment of effects to avoid! For the price ($140) it sounds a little too good to be true, but I'm wondering if it's at least in the same league with the Headrush and the Zoom 2100. By the way, MF carries Boomerangs now! ($480) Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 11:24:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA09952; Mon, 31 May 1999 11:24:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:24:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Plex Upgrade ideas: Loose the box. Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:59:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000101beab76$35a63c10$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"MV6sP2.0.0Y1.OFgKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>> Here's a suggestion: >>> >>> Why not loose the box, guts and all? If the wonder of the EDP is in the >>> software, then let's do away with the silicon. >>> Is this possible? >>gime some weeks to design the windows ;-) >>>PS: the PC platform is probably the best for that. >>NO ! :-) Well, I think you should consider the Windows CE platform. Think about it ... with Windows CE 2.1, you get mutli-threaded support, multi-windows support, pen support, device driver library support and a bunch more in a package smaller than an Echoplex. Most of the half decent CE devices already have a more powerful processor than the Echoplex and support a PC Card as well, which you could use for MIDI support. ADC/DAC conversion could be handled by an outboard system, or I think some of the newer systems such as the Nino have a sound chip built-in as well ... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 12:14:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA16831; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:14:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:14:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3752AFBD.DF207963@minds-eye.org> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:50:21 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G References: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> <3.0.5.32.19990531103651.007a17d0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6Iyas.0.CF3.c_gKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Have any of you tried Korg's ToneWorks AX1-G Guitar Multi-Effects Processor? I tried one when it first came out and was pretty disappointed in it. The delay length is only 1.6 seconds which wasn't nearly enough for me. If you want a cheap intro into multi effects pedals, you could do worse, but for a looping tool, I'd say pass on this one (the Zoom GFX7 something that's coming out seems to be Zoom's attempt at this pedal. Their pedal however has 2 seconds of loopable delay and a 6 second sampler. I haven't heard this one yet though). Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 12:29:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA19321; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:29:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:29:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990531112427.00853860@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:24:27 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990531103651.007a17d0@pop.ici.net> References: <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> <686a6f43.248279e9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"doVD91.0.cT4.nUhKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:36 AM 5/31/99 -0400, you wrote: >Have any of you tried Korg's ToneWorks AX1-G Guitar Multi-Effects Processor? > >Musician's Fiend describes it as having "a sample and play loop function >for live performance which allows you to layer new parts onto repeating >patterns", plus the usual assortment of effects to avoid! > I called Korg a few months ago when I was in the market for an inexpensive looping device, and that model loops at a maximum of 1.8 seconds. Zoom 2100 is, obviously, better for looping. Akai Headrush seems to be the most advanced and versatile looper of the three, but I've read too many complaints about the audible click. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 13:07:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA25256; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:07:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:07:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:47:58 EDT Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"DpLWo3.0.oR5.mrhKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The AX1-has extremely limited looping capacity...about 2 seconds if i remember right. The Zoom 2100 is much more powerful in the looping department. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 13:12:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA26099; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:12:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:12:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905311703.NAA21797@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: looping... thru time.. Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:00:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YolRv.0.K06.x3iKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com my first looping was probably mid 80s in electronic music course - with Dan Goode - donig tape loops, maually (with non-virtual razor/splicing!!).. that was fun an instructive. maye the 'click' in the new akai headrush is to simulate the click you sometimes get with a real tape loop..... an early source of musique concrete style looping is - alot of the work of teh great Karlheinz Stockhausen. he needs to be listened to more - and i do see his name here a bit - but as a living archetypal looping hero he is probably undersung. andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 13:25:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA28334; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:25:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:25:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905311719.NAA26967@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:16:57 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fNd-01.0.mf6.KJiKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From: Tim Nelson > Subject: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G > Have any of you tried Korg's ToneWorks AX1-G Guitar Multi-Effects Processor? > For the price ($140) it sounds a little too good to be true, but I'm > wondering if it's at least in the same league with the Headrush and the > Zoom 2100. well- i haven't tried it yet - but i'll tell ya - a year after getting it - i'm still VERY blown away by the sounds i get from it's immediate predecessor - the korg toneworks AX300G - no built in pedal, but jacks for any 2 volume/expr. pedals to be used as vol. and expr. inputs... great - diverse sounds - several distortions, all the basic time based stuff - 2 sec delay (??) phazer, flgr, chorus, pitch shift, tremolo, RING MOD, OSCILLATOR - which is especially great to llop - this sound patch always turns heads. quiet, sturdy -quick setup, excellent food for my loopers - i feed them all manner of chopped, diced audio thru this beast -the vortex loves to chew on some ring mod/distorto sounds, while my time machine enjoys the oscillator with pedal controlled pitch shift. so - what does all this mean?? if the AX1G - which i'm gonna try someday - is anywhere near the quality of the ax300G - which i hear it is - then it's a winner. The one thing i'm wondering, is how they worked out with only 2 pedals, the whole random bank/prog switching. the ax300g is a dream in this aspect - you can change bank/patch while playing one patch... and it stays in stdby until you want it. My verdict - TRY THE SUCKER -- a couple times if you need to - but from what i hear, it's a deep, deep deep unit that is not getting marketed well -- i saw one catalog describe it as ' an expression pedal'..... no -it's a seriou multi effect monster in one pedal. I see Zoom has a competing, similar looking device - even with a drum machine!! built in!! wanna hear korg ax300g?? here's a sneaky re-plug!!! i play in a zappa trib band, amongst other things... if we're in yr town i'd love to meet some loopers. A CD or a couple cassettes gets you in.... OR - just check out our real audio (link below) - it's all from the knit/halloween 98 - and all guitar is via the Korg Ax300G and a tube combo. andre' ON TOUR Jun 9-20 Project Object with Zappa band guitarist/vocalist since 1978-1993 IKE WILLIS performing the MUSIC of FRANK ZAPPA details>> http://projectobject.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 13:26:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA28480; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:26:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:26:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199905311722.NAA28061@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:19:31 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_4m8G.0.Zn6.iLiKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oops!! sorry - i responded to the Ax1-G questions on the basis of 'tone generating' excellence , rather than loop time. sorry, andre' > From: Fmplautus@aol.com > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G > Date: Monday, May 31, 1999 12:47 PM > > The AX1-has extremely limited looping capacity...about 2 seconds if i > remember right. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 13:48:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA31826; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:48:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:48:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <16be262.24842388@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:40:24 EDT Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G Vs. Akai Headrush To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"OVfDy.0.gV7.5diKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Akai is leagues ahead of the Korg AX1-G for looping (though far behind the EDP). With the Headrush you can continue to add layers to your loop or stop all layers except the original loop then add new layers again. The Korg sample and loop function is almost impossible to use. I have both and hardly ever use the Korg for anything except it's great wah effects. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 14:02:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA01369; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:02:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 14:02:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:44:09 EDT Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"5WFcu.0.Sc7.NgiKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use the Akai Headrush everyday and I get NO AUDIBLE CLICK unless I miss the loop point badly. Any sampler will click when the end of the loop and the beginning of the loop are out of phase. And they will not click when the end of loop and beginning of loop are in phase. "Somedays timing is everything." Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 17:41:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA00943; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:41:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:41:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BEAAF9.526BAEC0.mpeters@csi.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:23:07 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: 2290 @ Harmony central Resent-Message-ID: <"BJr_f.0.9X7.jtlKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey loop Heads, For the gear hog with $$$: T.C. 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Seller: charlie hitchcock, 805 564 8902 E-mail: uhitcc00@umail.ucsb.edu (Profile) Post Date: 5/30/99 Happy Looping, patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 17:59:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA04121; Mon, 31 May 1999 17:59:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:59:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:35:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Patrick Smith Subject: Re: Loop length query Resent-Message-ID: <"9-HAB1.0.m-7.F3mKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Topic suggestion: >How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 >sec.? Within the context of FingerPaint and also with my personal looping I use loops of more than 10 secundos all the time. Part of my intitial attraction to the Jam Man was the 32 second upgrade. And then along came the plex with way too many seconds... But I seldom am looping riffs or motives, generally textural sonic landscapes of varying loop sizes. Frquently we will have two or more very long loops "brushing against one another and then some shorter loops. Add to this what ever we lay on top. Lately I've been making longer loops of events with silence in between. Three or 4 sparse loops made in this manner have yielded interesting collages. Patrick http://www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 19:01:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA12150; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:01:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:01:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3753101F.634E8A8C@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:42:04 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loop length query References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HrkHN2.0.qN2.70nKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Patrick wrote: > Lately I've been making longer loops of events with silence in between. interesting, i have also lately been playing with a lot of silence layered in between loops; for me, this moves away a bit from the *wall of sound* that the luxury of so many layers can easily lead to... of course walls can be good, but i'm more interested lately in creating spaces... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 19:38:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA17454; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:38:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:38:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:20:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Loop length query Resent-Message-ID: <"syndb.0.Tb3.zZnKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>Topic suggestion: >>How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 >>sec.? Something nobody mentioned in this thread, which seems obvious to me but I guess not to all you arty ambient soundscape guys, is looping the chord progression or bassline of a tune and playing the melody or soloing over it. I do this with jazz tunes - make a loop of myself comping one chorus, and then use that as background for solos. I mostly do it to practice, but I've seen people do it live, too, with various instruments. One time through most jazz standards is usually quite a lot more than 10 seconds, unless you play it *really* uptempo.... same for other types of music, too. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 19:43:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA18334; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:43:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:43:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:28:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G Resent-Message-ID: <"-twy12.0.pq3.7hnKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:44 AM -0700 5/31/99, Hawkeye255@aol.com wrote: >I use the Akai Headrush everyday and I get NO AUDIBLE CLICK unless I miss the >loop point badly. Any sampler will click when the end of the loop and the >beginning of the loop are out of phase. And they will not click when the end >of loop and beginning of loop are in phase. "Somedays timing is everything." this would be true except for devices designed specifically not to click at the endpoint of the loop. (which I think should be the case for anything designed for looping!) We designed the echoplex this way, where it does a quick crossfade between endpoint and startpoint, so you don't get a click. In fact, I think the design was always that way, it seemed like a pretty obvious requirement right from the start. I'm rather surprised that some of these looping devices coming out now didn't do something similar. You should be able to play anything into the loop, right up to the endpoint and beyond, and never get a click. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 19:51:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA19390; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:51:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:51:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <16be262.24842388@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:34:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Korg ToneWorks AX1-G Vs. Akai Headrush Resent-Message-ID: <"iwDLF.0.U24.jmnKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:40 AM -0700 5/31/99, Hawkeye255@aol.com wrote: >The Akai is leagues ahead of the Korg AX1-G for looping (though far behind >the EDP). With the Headrush you can continue to add layers to your loop or >stop all layers except the original loop then add new layers again. The Korg >sample and loop function is almost impossible to use. I have both and hardly >ever use the Korg for anything except it's great wah effects. I tried the Korg AX1-G at NAMM to see it's looping features, and I couldn't even figure out how to get it to loop at all! I tried all sorts of things that seemed obvious and not obvious, and eventually convinced one of the demo guys to explain it to me, and I still couldn't make it work. Programming it seemed confusing too. The interface is just way too limited for what they tried to pack into it..... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 22:42:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA02956; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:27:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:27:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <374E97C4.E9B0186E@minds-eye.org> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:19:01 -0400 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: It just goes... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"F4u9R3.0.TM.eVfJt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Anyone get the urge to just put a loop on and let it go throughout the > afternoon? Sometimes letting a loop cycle for hours is a fun thing. All the time. Of course I prefer two loops or more with enough processing on them so that the sound never quite repeats itself exactly. Brian Eno has suggested that in the future, kids will be amazed that people used to listen to the same piece of music twice. Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 22:54:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA09137; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:54:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:54:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003b01beabd7$f0185f40$56934e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Loop length query Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:39:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"yKfuW1.0.JX1.DSqKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>>Topic suggestion: >>>How many of you folks routinely use loops longer than, say 10 >>>sec.? > >Something nobody mentioned in this thread, which seems obvious to me but I >guess not to all you arty ambient soundscape guys, is looping the chord >progression or bassline of a tune and playing the melody or soloing over >it. I do this with jazz tunes - make a loop of myself comping one chorus, >and then use that as background for solos. I mostly do it to practice, but >I've seen people do it live, too, with various instruments. One time >through most jazz standards is usually quite a lot more than 10 seconds, >unless you play it *really* uptempo.... same for other types of music, too. Excellent point, Kim! I've found my EDP to be an incredible tool for practicing "compositions" in Indian music. There are basically 2 types of instrumental composition -- a very slow 16-beat rhythm, and also a much faster style. Each has a very specific "feel" and structure. The slow composition can take up to 30 seconds at the beginning tempo, the fast speed maybe 5 seconds. These "compositions" are then interspersed with short improvisations, for instance for 4 or 5 beats, then return to the precomposed section which is repeated throughout the performance. Gradually the improvisations get longer and longer, eventually going over several cycles of the rhythm. Part of the joy of hearing a good performer is to see how skillfully he or she can link their improvisations back into the main composition. But it's very difficult to keep track of exactly where the time is during these improvs. So I use a tactic similar to your looping the changes or bassline for a jazz tune -- I loop the entire "composition" then practice improvisations over it. This makes it much easier to hear where each beat is, and to be able to work out how much time is needed to weave the improvisations seamlessly back into the composition. I wish I'd had this great tool years ago! James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 23:15:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA12696; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:15:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:15:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <37534C79.FEBB4F7B@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:59:05 -0700 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: EDP Suggestion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6gKZa3.0.YT2.vnqKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey all, I sometimes find myself having to turn off my drum machine for one reason or another and find myself without a way to re trigger the drum machine to be back in sync with my loop- is there a way to do this? If not, then I make the suggestion for the next upgreade! :0 ) Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon May 31 23:51:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18619; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:51:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:51:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:20:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Pafford X-Sender: todd@galen.dyn.ml.org To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loop length query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Om3er3.0.ER3.k7rKt"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Mon, 31 May 1999, Kim Flint wrote: > Something nobody mentioned in this thread, which seems obvious to me but I > guess not to all you arty ambient soundscape guys, is looping the chord > progression or bassline of a tune and playing the melody or soloing over > it... I do this all the time with my Boomerang. I'll tell ya', my skills as a 'soloist' have progressed by leaps and bounds. Another use for long loops that may bear mentioning is as a compositional tool. A perfect example is this piece I've recently written with a very chromatic or at least non-diatonic chord progression as a base, making it VERY difficult for me to write a melody for it. After an hour or so of looping it and playing over it I've found a great melody and harmony to go along with it. I would've pulled my hair out trying to do this on paper and probably wouldn't have written a melody I liked half as much as what was produced through the loop. --- "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite." -- William Blake Todd Pafford galen@erols.com