From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 01:36:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA22618; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:36:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:36:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902010633.WAA15522@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: NAMM gathering To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:33:32 +73600 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Nemoguitt@aol.com" at Jan 28, 99 00:50:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"98gfJ2.0.SP5.ifKjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > In a message dated 1/27/99 9:02:57 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, > pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu writes: No I didn't. > << Shall there be a predetermined LD meeting place/time for those of us at > > the show? Be kind of silly to have another situation like the one at > > the Torn concert last year, where there were five or six of us in the > > same room but nobody knew it! > > >> > > thus the need for really big looper delite hats.........michael Some of us forgot that one has to wear nametags to get into NAMM. Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 01:50:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA23948; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:50:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:50:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:47:56 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Feed the Silence Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"bUD3Y1.0.wm5.LtKjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Dark Aether Project's second CD "Feed The Silence" is now complete and off to the pressing plant with release expected in early March. However, you can check out the cover artwork and RealAudio excerpts from three songs on the website right now. Track list is as follows: Burnt Sunrise - 12:40 Nightmare - 8:14 Stages - 6:46 Building the Worm - 4:59 Feed the Silence - 10:22 Out of the Dark/Dark Aether (Live) - 8:52 The Dark Aether Project is: Adam Levin: Warr 8 String Touch Guitar/Keyboards/Loops Yaman Aksu: Guitar/Hammond Organ Brian Griffin: Drums/Percussion Ray Weston: Vocals With special guest Markus Reuter of Europa String Choir: Warr 8 String Touch Guitar on "Building the Worm" The Dark Aether Project Website: http://www.darkaether.net/ ------------------------------- For the Looper-folk, I'd suggest grabbing a listen to the excerpt from "Building the Worm" -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 02:04:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA25756; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:04:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:04:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B554A5.5167@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:15:49 -0800 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: NAMM gathering References: <199902010633.WAA15522@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"3Rcyr1.0.w26.d0Ljs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Paolo Valladolid wrote: > Some of us forgot that one has to wear nametags to get into NAMM. ...uh, talkin' to me?! Sorry I missed the meeting on Saturday. I unfortunately succumbed to a sinus infection of several weeks and had to obey my body's demand for rest and sleep over the last several days, which translated into my not even getting out of bed until well after the scheduled meeting time on Saturday (and not getting to the show at all, in fact). Certainly sorry if I left some folks standing around at the Stick booth wondering where I was; I hope some people were able to make good connections nonetheless. Yours in infirmity, --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 02:39:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA29899; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:39:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 02:39:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902010735.XAA16147@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: NAMM gathering To: altruist@earthlink.net Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:35:14 +73600 (PST) Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com In-Reply-To: <36B554A5.5167@earthlink.net> from "Andre LaFosse" at Jan 31, 99 11:15:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uGeKo1.0.uC7.YZLjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Paolo Valladolid wrote: > > > Some of us forgot that one has to wear nametags to get into NAMM. > > ...uh, talkin' to me?! No, just responding to the comment about wearing big, funny hats. Hope you're feeling better. I did get to meet Kim, Doug, John, and David Wessel. Basically Dr. Wessel of CNMAT and his alumni. :) Oops, and Chris Muir too. It's just as well you couldn't come to NAMM because none of the others found anything really interesting outside of software. I personally had a good time since it was my first time. I got to see Michael Manring perform next door to Stick Enterprises a couple of times, Tony Levin try out NS Designs' electric cello, Jeff Berlin jam with some guy on ddrums, and of course 5-6 of the best Stick players in the world perform. I sort of saw Reeves Gabrels, but to be honest I dozed off several times even though I was sitting in front of him being continously assaulted by his guitar noises. I got to meet Ralph Novak and try out his Novak fanned fret guitars in person (I'm enamored of his semi-hollow, archtop acoustic electric model). I saw an even weirder looking brand of guitar than the Kleins - the Stump Preacher guitars. They are headless with the strings folded into their little bodies and the tuners arranged in strange places on the fronts of the guitar bodies. Is it my imagination, or are bass guitars gaining more strings with each passing year? I saw one guy slapping and tapping on his 9-string bass monstrosity. I cracked up when Jeff Berlin shouted "I'm doing all this stuff with JUST FOUR STRINGS!!!" during his duet with that ddrum guy. The Nord people were putting on a cool 2 DJ show. But they were too busy being DJs to answer my questions. The Nord Lead comes with a wooden "pitch stick" that is a pleasure to play with. I have an acquaintance named Jimmy who was given free hotel and meals by MD guitars to demo their guitars using his double-guitar tapping method. He said people were asking him all day where he got his really cool string damper, which has individual dampers for each string and works really well. Other than my disappointment at not seeing the Digital Echoplex or Klein guitars, I had a good time. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 05:11:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA10281; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:11:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:11:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <326fbcf9.36b1e83d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:59:15 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Oberheim email address... Resent-Message-ID: <"pZ3Dm2.0.4O2.-mNjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi Loopers: > >Um, did I miss something? The link on the Looper's Delight page no longer >pops up a workable email address for Oberheim. sorry, I have to fix that....sometime after NAMM show recovery..... mail to Mike Ayers , he's the customer service guy that handles echoplex. Or call him, 877-623-7434 or (615) 871-4500 x382. he's a great guy. if you are one of the people waiting for an echoplex order, word is they are shipping out 3-4 echoplexes a day to catch up to the backorders, as fast as the guy can get them assembled and tested. should be there soon. :-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 05:09:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA10198; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:09:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:09:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000b01be4c84$cf5375e0$8c32dacf@sgoodman.primenet.com> References: <516fd66.36b351ae@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:06:31 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Hi! Resent-Message-ID: <"0Hkn_1.0.VO2.1nNjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> In a message dated 1/30/99 11:58:07 AM, akiom@onepine.com writes: >> >We are NY experimental kaut rock band called "Electro Putas". > >Marzzz asked: >> Is "Puta" what I think it is (se habla espanol)? > >On the other hand, it could be the NY pronunciation (or lack thereof) of a >relatively recent moniker for PCs that's come from the legions of ex-Mac >users in the workplace, as far as I can figure; they call it a Pooter. So >"Electro Putas" could have a link to some reference to this Big >Pout-and-Sulk Routine, perhaps? Or, eh, "Poot", hm? Well, puter has been used as shorthand for computer in europe for many many years, so it probably just crossed the pond there, along with a mispelling of "kraut rock". Nice try on the mac bashing, though. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 05:35:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA12406; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:35:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:35:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B5864A.5EA9@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 02:47:37 -0800 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: LD mentioned in print magazine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nsEC93.0.Ot2.97Ojs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Forgot to mention this... _Electronic Musician_ magazine has a special called "Desktop Music Production Guide" on the stands right now. There's an article inside about making music with audio loops; it's slanted towards sequencing and hard disk applications. At the very end of the article, the author remarks that he's just scratched the surface. He then gives a URL for those who want more info on looping: You guessed it! It's our very own Looper's Delight homepage. --A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 05:55:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA13843; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:55:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 05:55:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B586D8.2EBD@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:50:00 +0100 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re : Echoplex and Audio Sample cd's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1HkXU1.0.UD3.SQOjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I am curious about building rythmic loops using an echoplex and percussion based audio sample cd's. Is there > anyone out there doing this? That is building the loop directly from a cd player into the echoplex or is a > traditional sampler needed inbetween? What are the limitations of this approach? Synch problems with layering? > Hi-Fi Bugs The problem is the tempo. Musicians can synch by themself to the music flow, but not a CD of course, and this is why you shoud pick up the exact tempo before looping. You can try using some wellknown phrase (REC START/STOP) sampler, but the problem remain the same : you will have to edit your phrases to try to loop them perfectly well afterwards. If only you could have the tempo to synch your EDP ! But looping CDs require a certain accuracy that even most of nowadays bpm counters can't give for such an application, or if some do, these ones remain a bit 'nervous' (see the tempo displayed in real time, it usualy moves around an average value). The one way I know is to determine an exact and constant tempo before recording your loops and this is what does for instance the DJRND2. And once your loops are recorded, it could only be to enter this same exact tempo into a metronome to perfectly synch your EDP with. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 09:37:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA07341; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:37:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:37:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Chris Q , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: one more plea... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 09:17:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"Z0ujz1.0.wU1.KbRjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think I know someone who wants to sell a JAM MAN in Boston. What would the going price be? dk UNDO > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Q [SMTP:cqlung@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 5:04 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: one more plea... > > Howdy y'all...I know I've asked this before, and I know that I'm probably > the 18 billionth person to ask it again, but, does anyone have a Jam Man > for sale? I've looked and looked and looked, you all know the story. > Occasionally I find one, but it's gone faster than I can get my mail. Any > leads, info, suggestions or even equipment alternatives that are > reasonably > priced would be more than appreciated. Thanks to all...CQ > www.jigglethehandle.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 12:15:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA32687; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:15:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:15:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:48:00 -0500 X-Sender: paulpop@marlin.ssnet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Paul Poplawski, Phd" Subject: Bob Sellon Resent-Message-ID: <"hVtID1.0.4b6.2hTjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi ... I am trying to get a mailing address for Bob Sellon .. does anyone have one out there =83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83= =83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83= =83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83=83= =83=83=83 Paul Poplawski, Ph.D. email =3D ppoplawski@state.de.us or paulpop@ssnet.com phone (service) =3D 302/737-4491 weekday office =3D 302/577-4980 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 16:31:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA03390; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:31:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:31:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 21:12:45 -0000 From: "Esteban Delgado" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: on Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Hi! X-Sender-Ip: 209.212.192.49 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qJUjR.0.I5.cYXjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Considerando el nombre "Butthole Surfers", "Electro Putas" no esta tan malo (aunque personalmente, yo preferiria "Las Putas Electronicas"). You dig? Steve Delgado --- For the very best in cutting-edge music tune in to The Tuesday Afternoon Mix every Tuesday afternoon from 3 to 5:30p.m. EST on WFHB, community radio for Bloomington, Indiana. Now broadcasting to the world at www.wfhb.net, or visit our website at www.wfhb.org and follow the links. On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:38:38 Marzzz wrote: > >In a message dated 1/30/99 11:58:07 AM, akiom@onepine.com writes: > >>We are NY experimental kaut rock band called "Electro Putas". > > >Hmmm...two questions: > >What is "kaut rock?" > >Is "Puta" what I think it is (se habla espanol)? > > > >Marshall > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 17:51:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA15958; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:51:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:51:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE4E08.D6A9A6E0@ds115.ix.netcom.com> From: John Celano To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Dumping and Loading EDP samples Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:32:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE4E08.D6A9A6E0" Resent-Message-ID: <"PYG-S3.0.-E3.dmYjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE4E08.D6A9A6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've never did an echoplex dump, but with other samplers the channels of = both units must be set to the same. Also, sys ex must be turned on. = Typically when one unit initiates the transfer the other should see it = automatically though there are some samplers out there that must be in a = wait state mode. Hope this helps and makes sense. -----Original Message----- From: floyd@voicenet.com [SMTP:floyd@voicenet.com] Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 3:29 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Dumping and Loading EDP samples It was written by someone: >=20 > >I'm not quite sure about the channel. I have the echoplex set to MIDI > >channel 1. I have the Akai on system exclusive channel 1. I know the > >difference between Sysex channel and MIDI channel... >=20 > Maybe the EDP is accepting the dump on any channel, but sending on a > specific channel. I would have thought that if the EDP was set to = channel > 1, then it would send sysex out channel 1 and that the Akai would = receive > it OK. Maybe you can set the EDP sysex MIDI channel to a different = channel > than it's basic MIDI channel, I don't know I'm just guessing all this. >=20 It is my understanding that SysEx data is not channelized - no conecpt of MIDI channels for SysEx as there is for note and controller data. So if Sample Dump data is a subset of SysEx then the EDP should accept a sample dump regardless of it's midi channel setting. Likewise, when it sends a Sample Dump it sould be received at the other other without regards to MIDI channel settings. 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Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:11:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:11:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <538d9e30.36b64f0d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:04:13 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: NAMM gathering Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"8rM9C2.0.ek1.vxajs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/1/99 1:40:29 AM, pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu writes: >Other than my disappointment at not seeing the Digital Echoplex or Klein >guitars, I had a good time. > Klein was there (or should I say Lorenzo German?) but he did not have a specific booth, rather several Kleins were to be seen at various amp areas, like Bhudda..... Marshall (just passing on info, I wasn't there) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 20:33:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA11695; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:33:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:33:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990202012517.916.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [171.133.216.5] From: "wayne schroeder" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Hi! Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:25:12 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"FE4Bt3.0.gU2.FFbjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:53:07 -0400 >From: akio >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Hi! >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >We are NY experimental kaut rock band called "Electro Putas". >We just puted out CD . >I wanna sent that CD . > So,, could you give me your exact adress? >thank you > > akio > >wayne schroeder 1645 hyde st. #2 san francisco, ca 94109 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 20:32:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA11590; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:32:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:32:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990202012105.009c0bfc@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:21:05 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: NAMM gathering Resent-Message-ID: <"lJoPs3.0.iL2.yBbjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:04 PM 2/1/99 EST, Marzzz@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 2/1/99 1:40:29 AM, pvallado@waynesworld.ucsd.edu writes: > >>Other than my disappointment at not seeing the Digital Echoplex or Klein >>guitars, I had a good time. >> > >Klein was there (or should I say Lorenzo German?) but he did not have a >specific booth, rather several Kleins were to be seen at various amp areas, >like Bhudda..... Lorenzo was there, I hung out with him for a bit. He's got so much business right now, it's all he can do to keep up. So he didn't see much point in spending all the money for a Klein Electric booth to get even more business. the waiting period for a klein would be really long then.... kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 21:38:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA20524; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:38:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:38:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: jfa@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1b380456.36ad36f9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:13:45 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Altman Subject: Re: creative ennui question/Oblique Strategies....Addemdum Resent-Message-ID: <"smHG9.0.Ag4.6Ccjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:31 PM -0500 1/25/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: >oops, >as i was saying > >performing modern compositions? > >Im looking to do the rite of spring for guitar/loops > >terry rileys in c >etc.... > >rodrigo "In C" is available as a PDF at http://www.otherminds.org for anyone interested. There's a page with all 53 phrases and two pages of Terry Riley's instructions for performance. The other day I set my EDP to delay, with about a 30 second period with medium-high feedback, and worked through the whole thing, choosing synth patches by whim. Great fun and a good head-clearing exercise. John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 1 23:51:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA06071; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:51:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:51:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990202044522.17735.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.250.155.116] From: "Bob Campbell" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Bob Sellon Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:45:22 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"KDSN41.0.DE1.lAejs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > mailing address for Bob Sellon Check his website: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/sellon/bob.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 05:27:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA11341; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:27:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:27:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36B17EF6.6AA3@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 02:13:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: AKAI delay pedal vs Jamman Resent-Message-ID: <"MrTXx.0.FX2.y2jjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 1:27 AM -0800 1/29/99, PERILLE wrote: >I wonder if the new AKAI delay pedal-E1 headrush can record in loops >just as the Jamman does. I played with it briefly at the show. It's simple, but pretty nice for what it does. In loop mode, you tap the right button to start recording, and the left button to stop. (I think it's more intuitive to use one button for this, but anyway....) To overdub, you tap the right (start) button again, and the left (stop) button to stop overdub. It actually has a simple undo function as well. After you have done some overdubs, you double tap the right button and you go back to the original loop. You can't undo layers like the echoplex, all the overdubs go away at once. But still, that's pretty cool. The total time for the delay mode is about 23 seconds, but in loop mode it is only around 11 seconds if you want to do overdubs. I'm assuming it uses memory like the echoplex, where overdubs are done in new memory space, with the old stuff preserved. So the headrush only gives you half..... And that's about it for the looping. Very basic, but it does it. Feedback is not available in loop mode, although it is available in the other modes. Kind of a bummer I guess, since feedback is such a useful thing. It has four outputs for the tape echo thing, which is pretty cool I guess. I didn't play with this mode, so I can't comment on it. I assume it is a simple tapped delay with a separate output for each tap. I don't really care about the tape echo sound, so I didn't even try that. >As it seems to be a 4-head tape echo simulator, may be it can also run >four spinning loops once a delay is tapped with the footswitch. > >And if it is so, it could be a similar recording process to Jamman which >I was told was patented by Lexicon. > >Infringement or not ? I would say not. Check the IBM patent server, http://www.patents.ibm.com/ibm.html. Lexicon has no such patent. Besides, The Paradis LoopDelay did all of this and more a year before Jamman was out. If they had such a patent, they wouldn't be able to enforce it on account of prior art. I also tried the Korg AX-1G(?) which is claimed by Korg as a looper pedal. I couldn't get it to work. It actually only has around 1.8 seconds, which they conveniently don't mention anywhere, so it's probably not that interesting. I discovered later that it is operated by pressing the expression pedal all the way forward to engage a switch. This is apparently designed for people more lead-footed than me, because I couldn't get it to go. There's a thick bit of foam to stop the pedal, and apparently prevent us light-weights from pressing the switch. :-) If you do manage to make it work, they claim you can do overdubs by using the expression pedal as a sort of volume into the loop. The other effects on this pedal were really bad (I never heard a parker fly sound so awful), so proceed with caution..... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 05:35:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA11977; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:35:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 05:35:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B6D717.6861@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 02:44:39 -0800 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"b1Mzy1.0.El2.MAjjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The full transcript of Iara Lee's interview with producer Teo Macero (a brief excerpt of which was featured in the documentary "Modulations") can be found at the ever-excellent Perfect Sound Forever site: http://www.furious.com/perfect/teomacero.html Two reasons why this is important reading for those on the list: -- Macero makes several references to looping the playing of the musicians he worked with and then integrating those loops into the productions he oversaw. -- He also makes a somewhat alarmingly high number of critical comments about the modern electronic movement, and sample-based music in particular, chastising it for lacking musicality and emotion. My reaction was one of reading an old man lamenting the fact that "these kids today just don't do it the *right* way -- like *we* used to waaaaay back when." I highly recommend the interview to any and all, and would like to hear other reactions to in. --A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 09:29:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA10209; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:29:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:29:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com Subject: EMU Launchpad w/EDP Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 09:07:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"c758b1.0.Ui1.hYmjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have a friend who has recently purchased an EMU Launchpad. He's using it to control midi parameters on his Echoplex Digital Pro. 1) Are their any other users out there with this set-up? Any "gotcha's" to be aware of? 2) Is their anything the regular EDP foot controller does that the Midi/Launchpad cannot do? Thanks for your help! David Kirkdorffer UNDO From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 14:29:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA00516; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:29:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:29:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:21:27 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EMU Launchpad w/EDP Resent-Message-ID: <"Fw-Gr1.0.Ve7.G0rjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 6:07 AM -0800 2/2/99, David Kirkdorffer wrote: >I have a friend who has recently purchased an EMU Launchpad. He's using it >to control midi parameters on his Echoplex Digital Pro. > >1) Are their any other users out there with this set-up? Any "gotcha's" to >be aware of? no idea if there are any "gotchas", but from the specs it seems like it would work great. >2) Is their anything the regular EDP foot controller does that the >Midi/Launchpad cannot do? any functions available on the footpedal can also be done by midi. In fact, you can do more with midi since you can send continuous controllers for both loop volume and feedback, and you can trigger loops like a sampler. I think the launch pad has velocity sensitive pads, which the echoplex can use for setting loop volume when triggering loops. So that would likely make a nice controller. Also, there is some unfounded rumor that even more midi functionality will appear in the future, but my source was killed by a mysterious accident before he could reveal more info. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 15:15:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA08273; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:15:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:15:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990202200924.006b5edc@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:09:24 +0100 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Resent-Message-ID: <"MlyDk2.0.Pm1._irjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com macero did a great job on Miles records and with some others artist, but clearly he's going nut... mostly for his anti-sampler statements... basically he was doing the same stuff, with some other tools. I've seen often this kind of reaction ("we made true music... today it's all only shit") in older musician, great ones too, not been able to reinvent their talent during the years. I think it's a normal, "aggressive" reaction to feeling surpassed from other younger people, new technology, new ideas, ecc. By the way, Macero was a great genius for his era. I have huge respect for its work and contribution. Silly statements apart. ciao leo At 02.44 02/02/99 -0800, you wrote: >The full transcript of Iara Lee's interview with producer Teo Macero (a >brief excerpt of which was featured in the documentary "Modulations") >can be found at the ever-excellent Perfect Sound Forever site: > >http://www.furious.com/perfect/teomacero.html > >Two reasons why this is important reading for those on the list: > >-- Macero makes several references to looping the playing of the >musicians he worked with and then integrating those loops into the >productions he oversaw. > >-- He also makes a somewhat alarmingly high number of critical comments >about the modern electronic movement, and sample-based music in >particular, chastising it for lacking musicality and emotion. My >reaction was one of reading an old man lamenting the fact that "these >kids today just don't do it the *right* way -- like *we* used to waaaaay >back when." > >I highly recommend the interview to any and all, and would like to hear >other reactions to in. > >--A > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 15:48:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA14088; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:48:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:48:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B6F2A6.2070@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:42:14 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online References: <2.2.32.19990202200924.006b5edc@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hfUMI2.0.L53.hAsjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How do we stop ourselves from getting the same attitude as we grow older? Colin Jenkinson age 32 | 23 ega nosnikneJ niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 16:05:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA17027; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:05:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 16:05:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:59:17 -0500 (EST) From: Tara Key Sender: tk10@columbia.edu To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: sad tale In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990202200924.006b5edc@mail.dada.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"IckwX.0.nr3.LRsjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello loopers- Please indulge this missive as I'm sure anyone who owns the mighty Echoplex and Vortex will understand my heavy heart. Please also excuse this almost first time posting from a dedicated wallflower who has learned a lot from all of you all over the past couple of years. On Friday, Jan. 29th, my SKB rack unit was stolen from Brownie's in NYC after my band Antietam played. It contained an Oberheim Echoplex, serial number EDP001721 and a Lexicon Vortex, no serial number available at this moment. I post this as a reminder to always watch gear with an eagle eye even in one's own neighborhood (sadly I took mine off of it for 30 minutes) and also in recognition of the global village we all live in in case anyone should run across it in the NYC area, or by internet..... Now the quest for replacements begins...with a looping gig in less than 4 weeks and an album to finish in the next 6 weeks. Thanks for listening. Tara Key Antietam From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 17:53:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA03875; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:53:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:53:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:07:50 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Re: *Echovirus* Blindfold OneofaKind remix Resent-Message-ID: <"oyTqB.0.n8.Mvtjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 1/25/99 Rob Switzer echoed: > > I've finally completed a track based on the Blindfold OneofaKind >tape Ed >Chang was kind enough to send me several months ago. While not exactly a >remix, I sampled heavily from Ed's tape to create a beat-heavy >trip-hop/ambient dub track called 'BlindFold DisFunktion'. > > This track will be included on an upcoming CD by my electronic/studio >project *Echovirus* called 'Poison Reverse'. > > The track is available in CD-quality mp3 downloadable form at >http://www.mp3.com/evirus -- checkit out, and let me know what you think . . . > I've listened to this track a few times now and want to encourage everyone to go give this a listen. Very nicely crafted trip-hop/ambient dub. I suspect that the guitar bursts I hear are samples from Ed Chang? The guitar saamples fit the piece in a very musical way. Rob has created a great swirling undercurrent that is deftly mixed. When the base rests, I'm really intrigued by what is going on underneath. A very good piece of music. It has my wife dancing in the kitchen as I type this. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 18:40:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA12327; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:40:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990202184040.0079c590@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 18:40:40 -0800 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"X_h842.0.us2.klujs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >>http://www.furious.com/perfect/teomacero.html >> > My >>reaction was one of reading an old man lamenting the fact that "these >>kids today just don't do it the *right* way -- like *we* used to waaaaay >>back when." > >Thanks for bringing this interview to our attention. You're right; a lot of what Macero says is of particular relevance to users of technology. > >My reading of his comments was much like yours re the reminiscences of a grumpy old man, although I don't really think he meant everything the way it sounded. Macero describes in fond detail his innovative use of early technology, then goes on to lambaste the results which essentially evolved from work that he himself played a major role in pioneering. His comments regarding "purists" lead me to wonder how his own cutting-edge work was viewed by the generation which preceeded him, and how (if at all) this influenced his techniques. > >It's interesting that Macero seems to be saying that technological innovation was a good thing when it suited his own purposes, but has developed to a point at which today's musicians can't REALLY be creative because we're not being forced out of necessity to invent our own recording techniques the way he and his contemporaries had to. Again, I don't really know if he meant this the way it sounded... > >I found it unusual that the interviewer chose not to clarify Macero's obvious misunderstanding of the question regarding the origins of funk! Also, any reference to Bill Laswell's Miles remix album Panthalassa seemed conspicuously absent. It would have been interesting to see what Macero thought of it. > >Again, thanks for the link! > >Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 19:00:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA16237; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:00:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:00:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B78FA2.A3542BBF@uswest.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:52:02 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online References: <36B6D717.6861@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"B_VE92.0.0d3.Nzujs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I found this read to be enlightening in a bunch of ways..... Most of the response has been negative, but as usual, there's another side to that coin... Three disclaimers on Teo: 1. I doubt that he "really" meant that samplers were "terrible". He's just a plain fool if he doesn't realize that those tools are improvements on things he started with. I don't think he meant what he said. I don't think he laughs at the tool, he laughs at the way the tool is being used. ANYONE with $$ can buy one. 2. I don't put Teo in genius category, but he did do a good job of implementing Miles' ideas. No Miles, no Teo, IMHO. 3. We'd say he definitely had at least a little sour grapes on "We did things this way, and THAT's the RIGHT way" tack, but I think he's got the credits to make that point. We'll assume that he's a little more open-minded than he puts across in a few pages of interviewing. Miles wouldn't have kept him around otherwise. So, i tried to look behind that while i read... He makes a few good points to keep in mind... He's emphasizing that you have a CONCEPT of what you wish to communicate before diving into a bunch of tools. He puts emphasis on creativity, imagination, ideas, and spontaneous creation. I couldn't agree more. A really good thing that he does point out, is that he has a hands-on understanding on how many of today's toys were originally built. He was THERE at a time of the creative beginnings of lots of the boxes that sit in our racks. Oh BUDDHA, what i'd pay for that kind of experience! I'm sorry, but once you put a few loops together via tape and razor blade, you've learned a few things, a few "intangibles" that stay with you. Back then, they had a concept of a sound they wanted to get at, found someone to build something, tried it...etc. Tried again....and so on. Nothing can replace that kind of experience. Knee-deep in blood and guts, trying to solve that problem.... Today, we've got it backwards. We've got umpteen choices, reverb, loopage, sampling, etc. etc. All you need is a little $$ and voila!, you're a "musician". But WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? WHAT do you want to express? Once you've got that, the choice of "toys" becomes more intelligent, more "environmental-sounding" in the context of what you're doing. And sorry, that's the HARD part. Usually, i limit my listening to the "masters" (Tranes,Monks,Dolphys,Hendrixs etc. of the world), but as a result of listening to this list, I've been checking out lots of other stuff. That'd be my #1 complaint of lots of the "other stuff", it doesn't grab me, because it doesn't have that FOCUS. i think his basic slam is on people who buy a box, twiddle a few buttons, if something "good" pops out, they go on and use it and become a "big star", otherwise the "box" ends up at Sweetwater.com. i couldn't agree with that input more.... The other salient point that he made for me, was that "it all happens live". In this era of the "bedroom musician", precious little DesertIslandDisc stuff comes out of a single bedroom. For me, at least, the majik of music, comes from that spirited interplay between people. Its the intensity of communication that creates the FOCUS that we mentioned above... Technology is a TOOL to enhance the focus and the communication, which all leads to something that someone else would wanna hear. Thanks fer pointing the article out to me, i enjoyed it.... Jim Lanpheer Andre LaFosse wrote: > The full transcript of Iara Lee's interview with producer Teo Macero (a > brief excerpt of which was featured in the documentary "Modulations") > can be found at the ever-excellent Perfect Sound Forever site: > > http://www.furious.com/perfect/teomacero.html > > Two reasons why this is important reading for those on the list: > > -- Macero makes several references to looping the playing of the > musicians he worked with and then integrating those loops into the > productions he oversaw. > > -- He also makes a somewhat alarmingly high number of critical comments > about the modern electronic movement, and sample-based music in > particular, chastising it for lacking musicality and emotion. My > reaction was one of reading an old man lamenting the fact that "these > kids today just don't do it the *right* way -- like *we* used to waaaaay > back when." > > I highly recommend the interview to any and all, and would like to hear > other reactions to in. > > --A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 19:21:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA19995; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:21:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:21:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B723C5.18E@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:11:49 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: [Fwd: Fractastic] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------33CA5E265508" Resent-Message-ID: <"_GQyu1.0.oM4.EFvjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------33CA5E265508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got this from Stickwire, enjoy! --------------33CA5E265508 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from majordomo.netcom.com (listless.netcom.com [206.217.29.105]) by grebe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16363; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by majordomo.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.01)) id PAA25198; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 15:04:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36B7851E.9485DB22@wwics.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:07:10 -0800 From: Cody Rahn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stickwire Subject: Fractastic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-stickwire-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-stickwire-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: stickwire-l@netcom.com X-UIDL: 270871869cd533d9541337302307355e X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 I just found an interesting article/story on the Discovery channel's hp. It's about music generated and based on fractal equations. Really interesting stuff. Maybe one of the more experienced stickists could do something with this? http://www.discovery.com/stories/technology/fractals/fractals.html Cody --------------33CA5E265508-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 21:21:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA06724; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:21:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:21:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:10:11 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Hating "today's" music (was: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"59z2c2.0.gR1.-3xjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/2/99 3:50:25 PM, Colin wrote: >How do we stop ourselves from getting the same attitude as we grow >older? I think it's the reviling of the "new" that's a problem, not the lack of interest in it. And that's probably just a measure of personal bitterness. I know I used to feel compelled to keep up with what was "going on" (altho dicso temporarily defeated that resolve!), and no longer do (which is not to say that I don't like lots of what I hear...I just don't care how much of it I hear, and have no current "heros"), particularly since discovering that my personal doorway into a truly ever-growing fascination with making music was to drop ALL efforts to be "with it," and just follow my own ear, which was certainly formed a while back. But then, "a while back" for me was the 50s and 60s, so perhaps I'm generationally incapable of preferring struggle with myself to self-indulgence. dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 21:45:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA10217; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:45:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:45:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:37:39 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"OXgtR3.0.nG2.uQxjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/3/99 12:02:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, jlanphe@uswest.com writes: > Today, we've got it backwards. We've got umpteen choices, reverb, loopage, > sampling, etc. etc. All you need is a little $$ and voila!, you're a > "musician". But WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? WHAT do you want to express? Once > you've got that, the choice of "toys" becomes more intelligent, more > "environmental-sounding" in the context of what you're doing. And sorry, > that's the HARD part. Usually, i limit my listening to the "masters" > (Tranes,Monks,Dolphys,Hendrixs etc. of the world), but as a result of > listening to this list, I've been checking out lots of other stuff. That'd > be my #1 complaint of lots of the "other stuff", it doesn't grab me, because > it doesn't have that FOCUS. > > i think his basic slam is on people who buy a box, twiddle a few buttons, if > something "good" pops out, they go on and use it and become a "big star", > otherwise the "box" ends up at Sweetwater.com. i couldn't agree with that > input more.... > > The other salient point that he made for me, was that "it all happens > live". In this era of the "bedroom musician", precious little > DesertIslandDisc stuff comes out of a single bedroom. For me, at least, the > majik of music, comes from that spirited interplay between people. Its the > intensity of communication that creates the FOCUS that we mentioned > above... Technology is a TOOL to enhance the focus and the communication, > which all leads to something that someone else would wanna hear. > > Thanks fer pointing the article out to me, i enjoyed it.... > Jim Lanpheer > I have no idea who this Teo guy is but after reading a few comments on this interview(which i havent read as well) i figured i should throw in my 2cents. I am of the opinion that music=art and art=life so that anything is art some 'musicians' tend to look upon 'knobtwiddlers' as something below them because its......easy?! so i would make a better trumpet player than Miles because i would struggle to get a sound of the thing where as he would ever-so-easily blow away anything that came to mind i find it beautiful that technology is available to anyone wether they know what to do with it or not wether they want to express anything or not one of the great composers of this century(cage)stressed the purposlesness of music i dont agree with that totally since im of the opinion that everything is music(including if it has purpose/intention or not) lastly, even though i put alot of time into physical mastery of whatever instrument(s)i play i look forward to the day where the physical medium will not be a middle man a tough one at that rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 22:06:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA13193; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:06:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:06:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B7BFDD.4C82@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:17:50 -0800 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Hating "today's" music (was: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zAV6_2.0.V43.Vmxjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I seem to remember a quote from Miles to the effect that listening to new music kept him young. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 23:11:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA22680; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:11:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:11:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:02:02 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Resent-Message-ID: <"DPPkj3.0.n85.Scyjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:37 PM -0500 2/2/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: > I have no idea who this Teo guy is but after reading a few comments on this > interview(which i havent read as well) i figured i should throw in my 2cents. Just so long as you have an informed opinion... > I am of the opinion that music=art and art=life so that anything is art > some 'musicians' tend to look upon 'knobtwiddlers' as something below them > because its......easy?! > so i would make a better trumpet player than Miles because i would struggle to > get a sound of the thing where as he would ever-so-easily blow away anything > that came to mind It's not that the physical act of making music might be hard, it's more like: in the act of learning a craft, your relationship to what you're learning changes. People hear differently, and think differently, after working towards learning composition or an instrument. On the "anything is art" front, I contend that intent is _all_ that matters. For example, is a urinal art? Not in its native state, perhaps, but turned upside down and signed it suddenly acquires meaning beyond its mere form. > i find it beautiful that technology is available to anyone wether they know > what to do with it or not > wether they want to express anything or not > one of the great composers of this century(cage)stressed the purposlesness of > music > i dont agree with that totally since im of the opinion that everything is > music(including if it has purpose/intention or not) While I have long been saddened that I can't put enough memory in my looper to allow me to perform Cage's 4'33", I no longer subscribe to the theory that everything is music. I think music can be made out of just about anything, but there has to be a musicians or composers intent to frame it and impart meaning. Chris ____________________________________________________________ Chris Muir | cbm@well.com | got moloko? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 23:42:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA26610; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:42:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:42:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:31:44 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"VPsho3.0.gC6.T4zjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/3/99 4:14:05 AM !!!First Boot!!!, cbm@well.com writes: > At 9:37 PM -0500 2/2/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: > > I have no idea who this Teo guy is but after reading a few comments on > this > > interview(which i havent read as well) i figured i should throw in my > 2cents. > > Just so long as you have an informed opinion... that just flows beautifully, i had to laugh out loud > > I am of the opinion that music=art and art=life so that anything is art > > some 'musicians' tend to look upon 'knobtwiddlers' as something below them > > because its......easy?! > > so i would make a better trumpet player than Miles because i would > struggle to > > get a sound of the thing where as he would ever-so-easily blow away > anything > > that came to mind > > It's not that the physical act of making music might be hard, it's more like: > in the act of learning a craft, your relationship to what you're learning > changes. People hear differently, and think differently, after working > towards learning composition or an instrument. this raises the eno question, is music(art)an art or a craft, or both, if so are they intertwined or completely autonomous this is preciselly why i go with the life=art thing, it leaves that elbow room > On the "anything is art" front, I contend that intent is _all_ that matters. > For example, is a urinal art? Not in its native state, perhaps, but turned > upside down and signed it suddenly acquires meaning beyond its mere form. this takes away from the beauty or nature and/or found art(i use these terms in the context of what you use them) does someone need to give a sunset a name as a composition for me to sit back and say that its art > > > i find it beautiful that technology is available to anyone wether they > know > > what to do with it or not > > wether they want to express anything or not > > one of the great composers of this century(cage)stressed the purposlesness > of > > music > > i dont agree with that totally since im of the opinion that everything is > > music(including if it has purpose/intention or not) > > While I have long been saddened that I can't put enough memory in my looper > to allow me to perform Cage's 4'33", I no longer subscribe to the theory that > everything is music. I think music can be made out of just about anything, > but there has to be a musicians or composers intent to frame it and impart > meaning. i do agree that some art can be appreciated more effectively if intention is introduced(as in a shoenberg , a pollack, or a babbit)but does it make a difference if the artist intened what you got out of a work i read a duchamp essay where he talked about the artistic coefficient(i think that was the term)where he said with every work of art there is the unintended that is interpreted and the intended which is not interpreted i think that adds the personal beauty to art rodrigo and on a lighter note i just got my LD2 cd today and its good i have to say that: electric bird noise, keenan, siobhan, fingerpaint, well, hell all of them really blew me away keep up the great work and again im am gratefull for this medium(mailing list)to communicate with these artists From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 2 23:51:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA28145; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:51:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:51:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 23:30:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Resent-Message-ID: <"8qTY01.0.9A6._2zjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >While I have long been saddened that I can't put enough memory in my >looper to allow me to perform Cage's 4'33", I no longer subscribe to the >theory that everything is music.... I played this piece many times with my Echoplex before I sold it. Now that it's gone, I play it even better.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 00:34:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA00985; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:34:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:34:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B7DF3A.2891C996@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:31:39 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Re: Heart before the box- Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"akSrl.0.85.bwzjs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just read Jim Lanpheer's post and wanted to comment. I can relate to many of the things he pointed out- I am a "bedroom musician" and know that the times I play with others are generally the most exciting, challenging, thought provoking, and satisfying. I just got back from a local music store and I bought a Buddha Zen distortion pedal for my girlfriend- I was excited about the fact it uses tubes etc. so I ran out to get it- well, I have 6 guitars here and have been playing with it for awhile- trying this combination and that one etc. Now- I am taking a break because after a little while it just got dry- riffing over and over just to hear the different tones- necessary but dry- I think playing with others- and especially listening to what they are playing, i.e. saying- is the beginning of musical communication- it becomes an exchange between two persons, and when both are listening and allowing room for the other to speak, it can be like a conversation- a dynamic connected string of events wherein you voice opinions, hear opinions, ask questions, get answers, become inspired, become confusedetc on and on- a process can take place where the result is bigger than the individual parts. This is such good timing for me- I am waiting for my EDP to arrive and getting my own gear together but do not have people I regularly play with- I begin to see how crucial it is- even in a sampling or other environment. It seems important to stop and create from your heart and not always from your head- I know I get wrapped up in gear to the hilt sometimes- but it is great to hear someone else's perspective and to look at what you are doing from a fresh angle. I am just writing from the top of my head so bear with me- I also very much agree with the point that starting with an inspiration and going through the process of realizing it is invaluable. To have an idea about a certain sound you want- or a certain riff or effect- and to work at it and find a way to make what is in your mind a reality- it is something everyone should try at least once. I , for example had an inspiration at a show once- i wanted to find a way to go from a clean guitar sound and swell into a distorted one without having the volume go through the roof- I drew diagrams of dual amp setups and had an idea for a distortion pot rigged to a foot pedal like a wah etc. Then a friend just said- "Hey, just get a new multi effect unit and assign the expression pedal to the gain setting in the distortion- " Well, shit! I was glad to hear that but I really enjoyed trying to figure out how to do it- I started with the sound in my mind and worked at it- it was great- I have yet to actually make it a reality but when I do it will be great- It makes me think of Trilok Gurtru- he worked for 10 years or so to get those custom drums of his designed and perfected- and they are great! I gotta stop rambling- sorry for the incongruities- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 00:59:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA04056; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:59:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:59:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Jamie Lack To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 15:54:58 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"WkLO61.0.Bq.hH-js"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > >-- He also makes a somewhat alarmingly high number of > >critical comments > >about the modern electronic movement, and sample-based music in > >particular, chastising it for lacking musicality and emotion. My > >reaction was one of reading an old man lamenting the fact that "these > >kids today just don't do it the *right* way -- like *we* > >used to waaaaay > >back when." > > The most difficult thing in grasping what Teo is talking about is exactly who the "They" is when he makes comments. On the surface you have implied that Teo is referring to the modern electronic movement, and sample based music, but I could see no clear reference to this. Teo was rambling on in some sort of context, and my guess is that it was a context based upon his personal experiences, to do with the big record companies like CBS, and being closely involved with the studio world in one particular section of the industry. He sounds like he feels as if he is no longer needed, or that he no longer has a place where he used to. And I think that is a shame. But it happens, and he also seems to be carrying on by himself regardless. It doesn't sound like he is giving up. And why does being eccentric equal being nuts? A bit of respect please. And how many of us could have any idea what he is talking about. Not many I bet. Anyway.. i was interested in hearing about some of his methods and techniques, like his method of using multiple mixes and treating them differently and remixing them. I was thinking of something similar the other day, when I was figuring out what the "enhancer" control on my Joemeek VC6 did. I was thinking what would happen if you took your signal, split it through a multiple array of notch band EQ's, tweaked the signals and remixed them with the original. I don't have enough EQ power to do this, but it would be cool to try. JL From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 02:14:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA13479; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:14:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:14:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE4F4D.467EE530.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: *Echovirus* Blindfold OneofaKind remix Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:13:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"KjD871.0.9t2.AO_js"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > The track is available in CD-quality mp3 downloadable form at > >http://www.mp3.com/evirus -- checkit out, and let me know what you think . . . > > > > I've listened to this track a few times now and want to encourage everyone > to go give this a listen. Very nicely crafted trip-hop/ambient dub. yes, I second that! * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 02:37:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA15673; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:37:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:37:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:34:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Resent-Message-ID: <"-WxV7.0.kg3.uk_js"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, what seems to be escaping Mr Macero, is that there has been drivel produced along with the good stuff as long as there has been people making music. I wouldn't take it all that seriously. Edwin Who has a LOT of respect for Mr Macero's work. Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 03:16:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA20072; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:16:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:16:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 02:14:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199902030814.CAA04522@mw1.texas.net> X-Sender: sharkey@mail.texas.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: james rhodes Subject: Stick(& loops) live on the internet/radio 2/4/99 San Antonio KSYM 90.1 Resent-Message-ID: <"Z_de93.0.4r4.DK0ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello fello listmembers, wanted to take a moment to plug a radio show ,which will feature solo stick (not without a loop or two) broadcast Live: on KSYM 90.1 San Antonio and simulcast on ,,,, http://www.accd.edu/sac/rtf/ksym.htm i will probably start around 10:00pm CST,,,and only play for 15 min or so. if you have the time,,,i invite you to please give it a listen (Thurs 4 Feb 10:00pm CST) thanks, james From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 04:43:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA27418; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:43:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:43:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B7A8A0.6217@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:38:40 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Fg1at.0.ob6.kY1ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you performed Cage's 4'33" at a faster tempo you might be able to fit it into your looper;) Colin|niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 09:38:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA26149; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:38:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:38:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Colin Jenkinson , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Aging and remaining open Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:01:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"zCeem2.0.xS5.AZ5ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Great question! I guess it could help for older people to keep an ongoing and active involvement in their lives with younger people. Maybe that way the older and younger people can each offer something to the other. David Kirkdorffer UNDO > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Jenkinson [SMTP:jeancolin@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 7:42 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online > > How do we stop ourselves from getting the same attitude as we grow > older? > > Colin Jenkinson age 32 | 23 ega > nosnikneJ niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 09:40:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA26675; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:40:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:40:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990127134835.006b4630@net.ganymed.org> X-Sender: lorenz@net.ganymed.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:37:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lorenz Haeusle Subject: effects - not loop-related Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kJeHg.0.Jy5.Fo5ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi, all out there just took a look at the this site: http://members.aol.com/AnalogMike/zvex.htm it's about z-vex stomp boxes. has anybody some experience with these neat-looking-little things? how do they sound? any comments? lorenz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 10:43:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA03327; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:43:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:43:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:33:22 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Aging and remaining open Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"Jdk6R2.0.yM.Pm6ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/3/99 12:39:41 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, DKirkdorffer@exapps.com writes: << I guess it could help for older people to keep an ongoing and active involvement in their lives with younger people. Maybe that way the older and younger people can each offer something to the other. >> i know that having children makes this so.....last nite i had my 14 month old grandson, miles by the way up in my "studio".......his playing was a bit wild and crazy......he will teach me a few good riffs im sure!.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 10:49:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA04527; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:49:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:49:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902031519.KAA00301@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: sad tale Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:19:37 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GhdDM.0.Br7.SZ6ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com bummer sorry to hear that, Tara... i read about you in the voice last year, and haven't seen ya play yet, but know the pain of losing gear!!! dammit! hang in there and see it as a fresh start...i know it's harsh, but you still your your hands, ears and brain.... take some deep breaths and keep up the good work . i'm SURE you've thought of this- but perhaps you should inform www.roguemusic.com - and other nyc net - gear sellers they can also prob help you find new stuff...and look out for yours.... a pox on theives andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 11:23:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA10690; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:23:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:23:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: <4f86f339.36b87581@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:12:49 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #49 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"X99eA1.0.d42.ZL7ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As I understand it from several folks I've spoken to that know Teo as well as other people involved in a pretty exhaustive cataloging of Miles' music, Teo hates the Laswell remixes, is pissed that his remix of the previously unreleased music from the play "Time of the Barracudas" was turned down for inclusion on the Columbia Miles/Gil Evans box, and is a little sour that he's not being given more credit for being the creative force behind Miles' late 60's-early 70's studio pastiche-based works. (Supposedly Miles was virtually never even in the studio for those mixing sessions, although he claimed otherwise - most of the witnesses support Teo's side from what I understand). I think you definitely have to give credit where credit is due - samplers today owe a huge debt to his legacy. Do you have to share his opinions of the current state of sampling? Of course not. If you're serious about it, I wouild listen to them though, because somewhere in there are more than a few nuggets of wisdom to learn from. >2. I don't put Teo in genius category, but he did do a good job of >implementing Miles' ideas. No Miles, no Teo, IMHO. If Miles had started his career with "Silent Way" I'd say there was some basis for this argument, but short of ignoring the 20 year revolutionary legacy of recordings he made before that, especially those with Rudy Van Gelder producing, I'd say it's way off the mark. Although Teo did some great work on those 67-74 Miles recordings, his tape edits on Mingus' "Mingus Ah Um" and "Tijuana Moods" are laughably obtrusive. Ever see the movie "Straight No Chaser" where Monk chews him out in the studio? But, those are easy things to say in retrospect. Bottom line, for me: he was there in the trenches when the techniques were being developed, some of it was a mess and some was dead on, but his work and battle stories are worth checking out if you're interested in that kind of thing. Anyone who had to hang out with Monk, Mingus and Miles in the capacity he did certainly had to have balls of cast iron, I can imagine how guys like Puff Daddy must look to him. That period of Miles ('67-'74) is some of my favorite music ever made, and I vastly prefer Teo's original mixes to the Laswell remixes, mostly because Laswell tries to smooth over too many of the rough edges and reinvent it as sort of a quasi-ambient trip, although I dig that he brought the bass out more front-and-center. Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 11:56:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA16394; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:56:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:56:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: <299375cc.36b87ccf@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:43:59 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Mea culpa (re: dissing Teo) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"51evt2.0.eU3.wo7ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just a few minutes ago I wrote: >Although Teo did some great work on those 67-74 Miles recordings, his tape edits >on Mingus' "Mingus Ah Um" and "Tijuana Moods" are laughably obtrusive. I just realized that those were not his extremely lame tape edits on "Tijuana Moods", but someone else's. Even so, I thought his work with Mingus was kind of awkward, as on "Ah Um" and "Let My Children Hear Music" and it may have as much to do with Mingus as Teo, but my point was - everything Teo touched in this regard was not necessarily gold, with all due respect to his other groundbreaking collaborations. Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 12:26:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA22113; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:26:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:26:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:15:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Resent-Message-ID: <"SFeQZ2.0.cq4.KD8ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kriist@aol.com writes: >I have no idea who this Teo guy is but after reading a few comments on this >interview(which i havent read as well) i figured i should throw in my 2cents. > >I am of the opinion that music=art and art=life so that anything is art >some 'musicians' tend to look upon 'knobtwiddlers' as something below them >because its......easy?! >so i would make a better trumpet player than Miles because i would struggle to >get a sound of the thing where as he would ever-so-easily blow away anything >that came to mind > It's clear that you haven't listened to Miles, he had some pretty clear limitations on his instrument. It was the way he worked around them that gave his music its depth, unlike, say, Maynard Ferguson or Wynton Marsalis. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 13:17:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA32087; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:17:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:17:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B88F0C.4EB2294E@columbia.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:02:07 -0500 From: Morgan Lang Reply-To: mhl21@columbia.edu X-Sender: "Morgan Lang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-NECCK (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Qer7q.0.-47.yt8ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dave Trenkel wrote: > > Kriist@aol.com writes: > >I have no idea who this Teo guy is but after reading a few comments on this > >interview(which i havent read as well) i figured i should throw in my 2cents. I just joined this list, so I don't know whether this was already discussed: Macero's production work with Miles is well worth checking out--his editing and post-production effects attracted considerable negative attention from the late '60's and early '70's jazz press and from the jazz musicians of that period. Both Miles and Macero were very interested in Stockhausen, Partch, and Cage at the time, but even those jazz people who had rightfully considered jazz to historically have been at the forefront of the avant garde were offended by what they saw as the "artifice" of tape manipulation, thus showing the latent conservatism of thought regarding the "traditional" elements of jazz: i.e, the authenticity of the "live" performance. Of course, we can see that it was hypocritical of the jazzers to descry the elevation of the engineer/producer and the "artifice" of manipulation while accepting the disembodied/time-traveling aspect of sound recording as being somehow more "natural." Gotta go. --MHL. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 13:19:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA32383; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:19:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:19:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990203130155.0077fa94@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: km15@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:01:55 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: kevin miller Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"XK3ws2.0.NC7.-w8ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Miles, he had some pretty clear >limitations on his instrument. It was the way he worked around them that >gave his music its depth, unlike, say, Maynard Ferguson or Wynton Marsalis. Yes, and the fact that his tone was so incredible and unique. Whether the harmon mute was used or not, he exploited that smoky blue tone to all our benefit. As Gil Evans said, "Miles changed the tone of the trumpet." On the subject of looping, I was wondering if anyone who is represented on LD CD#2 thought that their piece sounded different than the DAT they originally sent out? Mine was slowed down and is a full step lower than the original. It seems to crawl along at a snail's pace compared to what I was used to hearing. If anyone gives a rat's patooter, I'd be happy to mail them a copy of the proper version free of charge. Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 13:19:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA32435; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:19:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:19:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B894D9.7586@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:26:33 -0800 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: group buy Echoplex References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yhbhJ2.0.JZ7.E49ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hate to momentarily interupt this thread,but,could someone please post Alto Music's phone #. My much awaited 'plex arrived in "not-working" condition.:-( Sure it's not their fault,just want to get one that works.:-) scott From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 13:42:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA03589; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:42:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:42:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B744BD.FB0A078A@home.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:32:34 -0800 From: Neil Goldstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: group buy Echoplex References: <36B894D9.7586@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"pHZ8V2.0.jN.eL9ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com scott kungha drengsen wrote: > Hate to momentarily interupt this thread,but,could someone please post > Alto Music's phone #. My much awaited 'plex arrived in "not-working" > condition.:-( Sure it's not their fault,just want to get one that > works.:-) scott 914.692.6922 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 13:57:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA06072; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:57:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:57:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B89B3A.6EF5@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:53:46 -0800 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: group buy Echoplex(oops!) References: <36B894D9.7586@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Cn9Wr.0.Jj.5T9ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Actually,I won't need the #. Gibson has been very helpful:-) and since they're back ordered 3-months on Echoplexii. I'll be fixing it here in California. Thanks Everybody!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 14:04:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA07160; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:04:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:04:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902031854.KAA22496@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:54:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Dave Trenkel" at Feb 3, 99 09:15:49 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Flv2V.0.RH1.ki9ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > It's clear that you haven't listened to Miles, he had some pretty clear > limitations on his instrument. It was the way he worked around them that > gave his music its depth, unlike, say, Maynard Ferguson or Wynton Marsalis. As an owner of 20+ CDs featuring Miles (I have to stop counting after the three boxed sets I own, not to mention all the cassettes I bought before I got a CD player), Miles' "limitations" on trumpet have never been clear to me. All I can hear is a man who played a lot of great music. Perhaps it is because I have no background in brass instruments. Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 13:59:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA06592; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:59:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:59:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990203134847.007b6870@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:48:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #49 In-Reply-To: <199902030807.DAA19061@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"8rUPp3.0.h_.7d9ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> > The track is available in CD-quality mp3 downloadable form at >> >http://www.mp3.com/evirus -- checkit out, and let me know what you think . . . I tried to download this, but when i clicked on the whatever.mp3 file (forgive me, it's been a while) with GetRight to download it, it downloaded a several kilobyte size file that, well, wasn't an mp3. Can anyone clue me in to what wacky stuff mp3.com does with its server? -- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 14:58:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA15863; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:58:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:58:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990203194847.14313.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.161] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: attn: GP-100 users Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:48:46 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"hygVK2.0.XR3.kVAks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just got a GP and have a question for fellow users. I've got a Jamman in the Fx loop and noticed a peculiar thing which has now become an annoying thing. How the heck can the volume of my guitar affect the volume of my JM once it is playing a loop. I do not understand this. Both the volume on my guitar and volume pedal control the JM's output once it is looping. I understand it is not actually controlling the output, but I guess what is happening is that somehow the preamp is being affected my volume settings. What is doing this and how do I stop it? Thank in advance, -Dennis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 16:10:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27920; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:10:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:10:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990203161256.00881410@tctc.com> X-Sender: pearce@tctc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:12:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: pearce Subject: Re: attn: GP-100 users In-Reply-To: <19990203194847.14313.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"6F_O81.0.VT6.uaBks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Dennis! Dennis wrote: >I just got a GP and have a question for fellow users. I've got a Jamman >in the Fx loop and noticed a peculiar thing which has now become an >annoying thing. How the heck can the volume of my guitar affect the >volume of my JM once it is playing a loop. I had this problem at first, and it is certainly a disturbing thing to hear, although it CAN be kind of cool in some ways- like a mondo ducking delay! Try turning off your noise suppressor, and see if it still gives you problems. My guess is that you have the NS AFTER the send/return. Simply moving the NS to before the send/return ought to fix things. If you prefer the NS after the s/r, set the NS input to something OTHER than "guitar". Hope this helps! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 16:10:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27911; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:10:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:10:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902032103.QAA30876@emh1.pa.net> X-Sender: rswitzer@mail.pa.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:06:59 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Robert Switzer Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #49 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990203134847.007b6870@pop.mindspring.com> References: <199902030807.DAA19061@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"5Dsle3.0.oV6.obBks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 01:48 PM 2/3/99 -0500, you wrote: >>> > The track is available in CD-quality mp3 downloadable form at >>> >http://www.mp3.com/evirus -- checkit out, and let me know what you think . . . > >I tried to download this, but when i clicked on the whatever.mp3 file >(forgive me, it's been a while) with GetRight to download it, it downloaded >a several kilobyte size file that, well, wasn't an mp3. Can anyone clue >me in to what wacky stuff mp3.com does with its server? >-- mp3.com has a system in place that uses .cgi scripts to tally the downloads, so if you right-click (on Windows/Netscape) on the link to save-as, you wind up with the script rather than the actual *.mp3. If there is a right-click equivalent in Mac land, I'm assuming the results would be the same. On this site, you have to actually double-click the link to initiate a download, and even then, sometimes it doesn't work -- the file becomes corrupt, and fails to load properly. Thanks for the interest, BTW . . . rob switzer echovirus From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 16:39:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA00167; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:39:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:39:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990203213206.386.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.161] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: attn: GP-100 users Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:32:06 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"fdefJ.0.3h7.a0Cks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I just got a GP and have a question for fellow users. I've got a Jamman >in the Fx loop and noticed a peculiar thing which has now become an >annoying thing. How the heck can the volume of my guitar affect the >volume of my JM once it is playing a loop I don't have to have anything coming out of the guitar, all I have to do is turn down the volume knob or pedal. If someone were to tell me that they were having this problem I would say they are confused, that it was not possible. If I move the Jamman through the chain not all positions will produce this effect, but the fact that it will do it at all is beyond me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 16:39:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA00178; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:39:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:39:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902032134.QAA04572@emh1.pa.net> X-Sender: rswitzer@mail.pa.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:37:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Robert Switzer Subject: Re: *Echovirus* Blindfold OneofaKind remix In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Zb8mJ1.0.tl7.Z2Cks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 05:07 PM 2/2/99 +0200, you wrote: >On 1/25/99 Rob Switzer echoed: > >I've listened to this track a few times now and want to encourage everyone >to go give this a listen. Very nicely crafted trip-hop/ambient dub. I >suspect that the guitar bursts I hear are samples from Ed Chang? Yes -- the guitar solo is de(re)constructed Ed. The bass sound was also derived from Ed's guitar. > >Rob has created a great swirling undercurrent that is deftly mixed. When >the base rests, I'm really intrigued by what is going on underneath. Many of the background textures are derived from Ed's various clarinet solos, pitch shifted/doubled, (spatially) processed with the Audiomulch s-spat tool, and looped. >It has my wife dancing in the kitchen as I type this. . . . good! That's what I had in mind when I put it together :-). From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 16:46:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA01424; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:46:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:46:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:46:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Resent-Message-ID: <"95QUO3.0.j8.-ACks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > On the subject of looping, I was wondering if anyone who is represented >on LD CD#2 thought that their piece sounded different than the DAT they >originally sent out? Mine was slowed down and is a full step lower than the >original. It seems to crawl along at a snail's pace compared to what I was >used to hearing. If anyone gives a rat's patooter, I'd be happy to mail >them a copy of the proper version free of charge. > Just a thought, not having heard the LD CD yet, but could your original DAT been at 48K? Transferring a 48k tape at 44.1 usually gives that effect, tuning it down around a whole step. I do DAT to CD almost everyday, and I screwed up on this on a clients CD yesterday. It's can be pretty easy to miss if the person doing the transfer doesn't know the material. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 18:47:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA19497; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:47:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:47:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: <860b0cd0.36b8dcfb@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:34:19 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"7jfyy2.0.pT4.hwDks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/2/99 6:02:10 PM Central Standard Time, jlanphe@uswest.com writes: << We've got umpteen choices, reverb, loopage, sampling, etc. etc. All you need is a little $$ and voila!, you're a "musician". But WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? WHAT do you want to express? >> That's a great point... I like how Geddy Lee referred to it in an interview from the "power windows" era - "option anxiety". You get so hung up on what box to use that you lose sight of why you're there in the first place..... <> True, but I have to share one - "Bundle of Joy" by Land of the Loops. It's certainly one of my d.i.d.'s, and it is a one man "bedroom" record. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 18:50:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA19953; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:50:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:50:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990203234211.0096f954@tiac.net> X-Sender: rphunt@tiac.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:42:11 -0500 To: JBKBOUNCE@aol.com, WNGV45A@prodigy.com, etnier@studiodual.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, stickwire-l@netcom.com, rhunt@lr.net, rjkoziol@nji.com, DGM@disciplinegm.demon.co.uk, malspal@tka.com From: Reginald Hunt Subject: Snow Job 1998 Resent-Message-ID: <"A2xHa.0.BY4.TyDks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just letting y'all know that my web site is now set up for the new "Snow Job 1998" Virtual Album. Better late than never, I guess. There are 4 Xmas songs posted, featuring on vocals: Dana Delany Sara Michelle Gellar Stephen Hawking Steve Zodiac Please pay a visit at www.tiac.net/users/rphunt Reg From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 18:54:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA20558; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:54:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:54:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990203185017.007a48c0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 18:50:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online In-Reply-To: <199902031854.KAA22496@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"iFG4R3.0.Qf4.h-Dks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ...Miles had some pretty clear >> limitations on his instrument. It was the way he worked around them that >> gave his music its depth... >As an owner of 20+ CDs featuring Miles... All I can hear is a man who played a lot of great music. Another example of two apparently contradictory statements which are BOTH TRUE! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 19:18:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA24404; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:18:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:18:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:41:06 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: LD CD Sounds Different? Resent-Message-ID: <"USFaA2.0.vj5.tMEks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com snipped from a Teo M. thread.... On the subject of looping, I was wondering if anyone who is represented >on LD CD#2 thought that their piece sounded different than the DAT they >originally sent out? Mine was slowed down and is a full step lower than the >original. It seems to crawl along at a snail's pace compared to what I was >used to hearing. If anyone gives a rat's patooter, I'd be happy to mail >them a copy of the proper version free of charge. Our cut sounds fine....... Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 19:35:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA27245; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:35:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:35:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:27:53 -0800 Message-ID: <00189232.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: LD CD Sounds Different? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"c9tu4.0.1K6.4cEks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > snipped from a Teo M. thread.... > On the subject of looping, I was wondering if anyone who is represented >on LD CD#2 thought that their piece sounded different than the DAT they >originally sent out? Mine was slowed down and is a full step lower than the >original. It seems to crawl along at a snail's pace compared to what I was >used to hearing... Hey! Maybe Teo Macero got hold of it... -m From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 19:35:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA27243; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:35:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:35:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <011c01be4fd5$bcdbc3a0$6d32ba8c@kdanger> From: "Darren Blondin" To: Subject: EMU LAUNCHPAD Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:31:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0119_01BE4FAB.D31C4600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"aHdTQ1.0.kQ6.EeEks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0119_01BE4FAB.D31C4600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have some comments to David Kirkdorffer about purchasing midi = controllers: The launchpad is a very good controller, but for me it would be much to = limited. I have often played with it at music stores only to discover = it's shortcomings. I guess its appeal would be its simplicity, solid = construction, and built in "keyboard". I recommend checking out the = Doepfer Regelwerk. It can send virtually any midi command, has 24 = programmable sliders, a built in analog sequencer (which is great for = drum n bass sequencing with a sampler), memories, multiple midi = ins/outs, Roland sync, and even a whole bunch of CV/GATE outputs for = analog synths. I have version 1.5 which is so far pretty good but it = still has a few glitches. v1.6 is coming out next month. I upgraded it = from 1.2 over the internet and blew my own Eprom. Version 2 is suppose = to blow 1.x out of the water. No exact dates on its release yet. Anyways = check out Doepfer's midi control boxes. They may not be for the timid = musician but they are super powerful for the money. 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I have some comments to David = Kirkdorffer about=20 purchasing midi controllers:
 
The launchpad is a very good = controller, but for=20 me it would be much to limited. I have often played with it at music = stores only=20 to discover it's shortcomings. I guess its appeal would be its = simplicity, solid=20 construction, and built in "keyboard". I recommend checking = out the=20 Doepfer Regelwerk. It can send virtually any midi command, has 24 = programmable sliders, a built in analog sequencer (which is great for = drum n=20 bass sequencing with a sampler), memories, multiple midi ins/outs, = Roland sync,=20 and even a whole bunch of CV/GATE outputs for analog synths. I have = version 1.5=20 which is so far pretty good but it still has a few glitches. v1.6 is = coming out=20 next month. I upgraded it from 1.2 over the internet and blew my own = Eprom.=20 Version 2 is suppose to blow 1.x out of the water. No exact dates on its = release=20 yet. Anyways check out Doepfer's midi control boxes. They may not be for = the=20 timid musician but they are super powerful for the money. I paid only = $450 for=20 it.
------=_NextPart_000_0119_01BE4FAB.D31C4600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 20:19:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA00188; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:19:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:19:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: <1ec638da.36b8f45a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:14:02 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 4'33" Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"G5PHM1.0.ow7.ZIFks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >If you performed Cage's 4'33" at a faster tempo you might be able to fit >it into your looper;) As a testament to Cage's sense of humor, 4'33" was originally scored in three movements, so with slight pauses between them it actually takes longer than 4'33" to perform. Unless you rush, that is.... Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 21:34:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA12232; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:34:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:34:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bryan.helm@dinosaur.com Message-ID: <9902031908.0QVX201@dinosaur.com> Organization: The Dinosaur Board X-Mailer: TBBS/TIGER v1.0 Date: Wed, 03 Feb 99 19:08:19 -0700 Subject: tsk,tsk Teo To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"fcvoR.0.Eq1.s7Gks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For those who haven't seen it, the exchange between Monk and Teo in "Straight No Chaser" revolves around Monk asking for a playback of a number he and his group had just played only to be informed by Teo that the tape wasn't rolling, much to Monk's dismay Teo informs him that he thought they were only practicing.Monk goes on to explain why that was not a good thought for him to have had at the time. Bryan Helm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 22:06:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA17160; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:06:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:06:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:49:14 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: FS: Zoom 4sec. delay /ZVex Machine pedal Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"KDIej.0.oc3.OjGks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Brief commercial interlude: Gotta Zoom 508 gathering dust around here...for $50 I'll ship it anywhere in the 48 contiguous...(btw, also selling a ZVex Machine pedal for $225 +) David Coffin 800-283-7252, ext 518 dcoffin@taunton.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 23:08:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA25726; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:08:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:08:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MrBERWELL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:17:15 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 4'33" Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"vfOWw.0.ot5.ofHks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/3/99 8:20:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, KRosser414@aol.com writes: > >If you performed Cage's 4'33" at a faster tempo you might be able to fit > >it into your looper;) > > As a testament to Cage's sense of humor, 4'33" was originally scored in > three > movements, so with slight pauses between them it actually takes longer than > 4'33" to perform. I know it was scored for piano, but if anyone has transcribed this for guitar (in tab, of course) please send it my way. Jody From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 23:19:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27317; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:19:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:19:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:17:56 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: 4'33" Resent-Message-ID: <"3J_tT.0.UT6.wvHks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>If you performed Cage's 4'33" at a faster tempo you might be able to fit >>it into your looper;) > >As a testament to Cage's sense of humor, 4'33" was originally scored in three >movements, so with slight pauses between them it actually takes longer than >4'33" to perform. > >Unless you rush, that is.... > >Ken R I've played it on my 32 sec. JamMan before, by syncing it to a MIDI clock at 113.75 bpm, looping 16 beats and letting it play 9 times. OK, I really haven't played it, but I could if I wanted to. Of course, if I wanted to do all 3 movements, I'd have to work out a tempo map to fit all 3 movements. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 3 23:21:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27612; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:21:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:21:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B9150D.666B1070@home.com> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 22:33:33 -0500 From: Scoo8 Reply-To: proside@home.com Organization: inside.project http://listen.to/ourbeats X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: WTB (want to buy) almost any type of audio equipment in s/w Ontario References: <199901221402.JAA29520@badboy.micro.lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_vJCF1.0.4d6.YzHks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just like the subject says.. mostly DJ equipment especially turntables.. echo boxes, samplers. sorry if this is off topic for the list but i think its pretty "on topic" :) good luck in everyones audio adventures.. automatic audio-magic http://listen.to/ourbeats From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 00:01:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA32415; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:01:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:01:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <008801be4ffa$bc2963c0$891f6ccb@luciputer> From: "Jack and Luci" To: Subject: Re: 4'33" Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:56:31 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"GxBXS1.0.-l7.cXIks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>>If you performed Cage's 4'33" at a faster tempo you might be able to fit >>>it into your looper;) There is a quite simple reason why you could never play Cage's 4'33" into a looper (whether it be an Echoplex or a Jamman)......These units fit into a 19 inch rack, while Cage's ditty measures a whopping 4 metres and 33 centimetres... :~) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 01:13:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA07444; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 01:13:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 01:13:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B90EF6.335D481B@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:07:34 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Re: EDP order Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"rdKlU1.0.Ai1.AcJks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Scott wrote: Actually,I won't need the #. Gibson has been very helpful:-) and since they're back ordered 3-months on Echoplexii. I'll be fixing it here in California. Thanks Everybody!!! You are joking, right? I got an e-mail from EDP customer support saying 2 to 3 weeks! Please tell me that was a type-o!! Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 05:25:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA30324; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 05:25:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B7AD38.14AF@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 01:58:16 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: [Fwd: NAMM Oddities '99] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7FDC7F0914CD" Resent-Message-ID: <"A-K_31.0.R07.ywMks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7FDC7F0914CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following is from Stickest, techno-looper Barry Wood. --------------7FDC7F0914CD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from otheroom.com ([209.60.128.21]) by toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08619; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [24.1.167.115] by otheroom.com (SMTPD32-4.0) id ADC43D018E; Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:35:32 -0800 X-Sender: barry@mail.otheroom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 23:31:46 -0800 To: Alex Cima , Arjen van der Schoot , Casey Arrillaga , Colin Jenkinson , wavedave@earthlink.net, Duke Gibson , Evan Schiller , Evan Evans , Everett Carroll , Geoff Olsen , Paul Hightower , James Steele , Joe Aiello , Kevin & Laura Weed , Larry Tuttle , Lou Savage , 103275.2072@compuserve.com, "Mark @ Abacab" , Paul McIntire , Radames & Rina , Scott Meldrum , Steve Kruse , SGCompose@aol.com, Tim Horrigan , Thomas Phillips , Tom Ross From: Barry Wood Subject: NAMM Oddities '99 X-UIDL: 4338f0f23ef1b4c10f48fffc7a058960 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 The NAMM Oddities web pages have been updated with all the new obscure stuff from the recent NAMM show in LA. 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We hope you enjoy our streaming. "Remembering Garcia Lorca" Streaming URL http://www.cavestudio.com/xebec_live/ 6th Feb '99 PM 7:00 to 9:00 (GMT AM10:00 to 12:00) Live at XEBEC HALL,Kobe Japan Francoise Bres (Text,Performance) Masayuki Sumi (Voice,Dance) Sunao Inami (Sound Treatment) Yoshihiro Kawasaki (Voice,Sound Treatment) Takashi Inagaki (Video works) Guest: Hiroshi Nakagawa (Bansuri,Voice) More info contact: XEBEC HALL tel + 81 78 303 5600 , fax +81 78 303 5604 Kobe Japan xebec@xebec.co.jp CAVE Studio info@cavestudio.com Best Regards Sunao Inami Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 13:04:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA23807; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:04:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:04:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B9D9C8.B0724CAE@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 04:32:56 +1100 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: is it worth it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"xuov-2.0.gK4.NeTks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all, it looks as though i finally have the chance to buy a lexicon vortex... after many years of trauling the second hand market i just gave up and phoned the lexicon distributor in australia.. seems there was one left--an ex-demo that wasn't working. fine i say, fix it up and send it around, um, any idea what you want to charge? oh.. it'll be a good deal... blah blah blah... the thing arrived yesterday with the nice hefty tag of $800 this is apparently the wholesale price from a couple of years ago. it seems they had to get a part from lexicon.. hmm.. i have read and drooled about this thing for some time...odd rhythmic echoes... morphing... effects called bleen and maze and fractal... cool cool cool... but $800 worth of cool? translating to international monetary units that's about 400 beers.. and so i ask you, loopers, do i suffer for my art yet again or have the 400 beers (hmm is that a tautology?---hmmm is this irony during a soul vs box thread?) this would definitely be box before soul... i still have not actually heard the vortex and only have a vague idea of what i would *use* it for... i already have some rhythmic delay in the boss se50 (it has a pretty good multitap delay as well as a wild 5-dd2's-in-a-row patch)... occasionally i like to rhythmically whack away looper-into-delay style -- then hit bypass to see the twisted skeleton beneath... it would be *really* nice to be able to morph to the twisted skeleton or to something totally different... do you vortex users out there mainly go looper-into-vortex or vortex-into-looper? do i really need a vortex that bad? wo.. sorry about the rant.. brad From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 13:38:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA29838; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:38:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:38:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B9E672.6BA2@voicenet.com> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:26:58 -0500 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: is it worth it? References: <36B9D9C8.B0724CAE@latrobe.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Cd_5H3.0.fX6.NKUks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com b.knox wrote: > fine i say, fix it up and send it > around, um, any idea what you want to charge? oh.. it'll be a good > deal... blah blah blah... the thing arrived yesterday with the nice > hefty tag of > > $800 > and so i ask you, loopers, do i suffer for my art yet again or have the > 400 beers (hmm is that a tautology?---hmmm is this irony during a soul > vs box thread?) That is an absurdly high price. Even in AUS dollars. There is a Vortex forsale this week on the newsgroups for $175 US. I have never *ever* seen one sell for more than $250 US and that was mint in the box with all pedals in plastic, manual, etc a few years after the blowout. A vortex is nice but no where near $800AUS worth of cool IMO. Troll Rogue music's web site and other places. I'm sure you can find one easy enough and at a much better price. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 15:07:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA12167; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:07:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:07:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:57:26 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: is it worth it? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"FzXyu2.0.WW2.rjVks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A Vortex for $800 bucks is too high. You could hire sombody in the US to find you one, and pay much less i would think. It is a cool box though. It's great running a mono source into it...like a loop...and bring it back into the world in strange stereo. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 15:16:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA13654; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:16:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 15:16:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36B9FF05.B5D35CDE@stic.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:11:49 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: effects - not loop-related References: <3.0.32.19990127134835.006b4630@net.ganymed.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"tYaJp1.0.tq2.WqVks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lorenz Haeusle wrote: > hi, all out there > > just took a look at the this site: > > http://members.aol.com/AnalogMike/zvex.htm > > it's about z-vex stomp boxes. has anybody some experience with these > neat-looking-little things? how do they sound? > > any comments? > > lorenz I've got the "Fuzz Factory" really great dial-up sustain/feedback and just strange noises!! They have have germanium resistors and have that original Roger Mayer fuzz face sound!! But they are on the high end of the sound spectrum. My ADA cab emulator takes care of this. I'm interested in the "Seek-Wah". Torn posted awhile back on "...Delight", that he was happy with it. Good luck, James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 16:10:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA23820; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:10:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:10:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990204210104.19900.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.94.66.242] From: "Matt Rowe" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: effects - not loop-related Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:01:03 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"xb5KT2.0.dG5.VfWks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> it's about z-vex stomp boxes. has anybody some experience with these >> neat-looking-little things? how do they sound? >> >> any comments? >> >> lorenz > I'm interested in the "Seek-Wah". Torn posted awhile back on >"...Delight", that he was happy with it. > Good luck, James the seek wah is _amazing_. i've never been a wah kinda guy... but this can be a real "set and forget" pedal. or, you can spend days tweeking it. either way, it's fantastic for adding a little animation to an otherwise lifeless tone. low- medium- and high- gain, it works great! i'm keeping my eyes open for a good price on any of his other pedals. i'm really impressed with this little guy. it's well built, sounds great, and looks cool with all those flashing lights. only bummer is that there's no jack for a power supply, but my original 9 volt is still going strong. matt The price I pay for free, private email is the following commercial message... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 19:09:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA24913; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:09:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:09:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:59:32 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: PMC10/GR1 Sysex To: Loopers Delight Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <36BA3464.22BD@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fhahG1.0.Jm5.KHZks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hope this question isn't too off-topic... :-) Maybe someone out there could give me a hand with this: I'd like to send a sysex message from my PMC10 to a Roland GR-1 which would toggle the local on/off setting. I don't really know too much about sysex stuff, so any suggestions/comments/help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks a lot - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 19:57:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA31773; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:57:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:57:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <8f2ba28.36ba382e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:15:42 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: is it worth it? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"dnk0w1.0.mK6.IYZks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've bought 2 Vortex's in the last year and paid $175 for one and $200 for the other. Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 20:12:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA01248; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:12:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:12:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990205002259.17820.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.74.104] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: new to list...plex's anywhere? Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 16:22:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"WluTb.0.0X6.qcZks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all, I'm brand new to the list today, and thought I'd de-lurk to ask about where I can find an Oberheim Echoplex w/controller. I've searched the archive and that doesn't seem to help my efforts. ---//////-------------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////--------------///////-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 20:25:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA02946; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:25:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:25:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Egold2604@aol.com Message-ID: <44d3adf5.36ba3cda@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:35:38 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: I think we have a winner here! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"Su0HG3.0.xA7.fsZks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com First of all, Kim, let me apologize for never signing up, but visiting frequently. I guess I was too concerned with the possibility of drowning in email about how cool Robert Fripp is too realize how important to this artform your information has been. I have used a pds 8000 for years, and got a jamman a few years ago as well, and have been trying to find something that bridges the two. Checking out the NAMM site a few days ago, I happened upon this: NEW PEDAL FROM AKAI (AKAI?????) E1 Headrush Tap Delay / Tape Echo Simulator / Looping Recorder 16 bit Digital Delay - Delay time from 0.5ms to 23.8 sec Tape Echo mode with 4 tape-head parallel outputs for amplifier or mixer inputs. Simulates an analog 4-head tape echo machine Looping Recorder with overdub mode - Powerful tool for solo performances Max. Recording time is 11.9 sec for loop recording HEAD GAP adjusts the delay time between the heads Delay time is from 10ms to 5.9 sec HF Damp simulates an analog delay sound Feedback sets the feedback level for repeat times Ratio allows adjustment of wet and dry mix Dynamic delay control - sets the delay time by tapping the footswitch twice True Bypass So what do we have here? A Jamman with a slightly upgraded memory, a high frequency roll-off, outputting quadrophonically (!), a tap tempo control, and a knob for modulating delay time while in that mode, providing the often coveted "speeding up and slowing down" sound of a tape based delay. All this is in a pedal . . . selling at a suggested price of $250. Um, I don't know if I'm jumping the gun here, but this, quite frankly, seems to be the shit. Now, I know you don't have multiple loops, or any of that jazz, but fuckit, no one but us dweebs use that anyway. Everyone else wants to solo over their pretty little loop until they get bored and do another one. Now they can set the tempo on the fly without a midi pedal or, as I' ve been doing with the pds, playing and praying. Too bad you can't modulate the time of the loop once it's set, but maybe that's a mod you can figure out and sell. Anyway, please add me to your mailing list, drown me in tech speak if you so require, because at least I won't feel like the weird guy in town anymore . . . also, if you want, I'll manage a PDS-8000 site on Tools of the Trade (check out my product review in Harmony Central under Digitech effect pedals), if you can help me out (i.e. tell me how to do it!) Thanks a trillion, and as soon as you can get the echoplex under $600, you've got my business! SINcerely, Aaron Solomon Goldsmith aaroneous88@hotmail.com 536 Galen Dr. State College, PA, 16803 (814) 861-5220 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 20:29:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA03273; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:29:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 20:29:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990205012113.3656.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:21:13 -0800 (PST) From: Bret Subject: Re: new to list...plex's anywhere? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"KZrkx1.0._S.LQaks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Joshua, Call Robbs Music in Boulder, they often have them in stock. Great to see another Boulder looper. bret (in boulder) ---kameleyon wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm brand new to the list today, and thought I'd de-lurk to ask about > where I can find an Oberheim Echoplex w/controller. I've searched the > archive and that doesn't seem to help my efforts. > > ---//////-------------/////---///////--- > Joshua D. Pickenpaugh > Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. > Bassist, Composer, Teacher > http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic > -///------///////--------------///////-- > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 21:14:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA08870; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:14:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:14:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990204211134.007a19a0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:11:34 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Headrush In-Reply-To: <44d3adf5.36ba3cda@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"hmgWa2.0.Iv1.59bks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If anyone else just received the new Musician's Fiend catalog, have a look at the bottom right corner of pg. 49. It's the Akai E1 Headrush Pedal. MF wants $199.99. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 23:07:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA23719; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:07:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:07:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:59:06 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Headrush Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"aaKpA2.0.bZ5.7pcks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/5/99 3:41:41 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tcn62@ici.net writes: > If anyone else just received the new Musician's Fiend catalog, have a look > at the bottom right corner of pg. 49. > > It's the Akai E1 Headrush Pedal. MF wants $199.99. > > what is the headrush pedal? rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 23:25:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA25994; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:25:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:25:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:11:39 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Punk Jazz? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"v7kGS1.0.o_5.S0dks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com im trying to find some artist that are doing out there jazz, preferably on the really intense/experimental side. with or without looping really any recommendations? thanks in advance rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 4 23:36:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27713; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:36:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:36:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA6861.25D3@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:41:21 -0700 From: chlorine dream Reply-To: metaphor@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: is it worth it? References: <36B9D9C8.B0724CAE@latrobe.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4NcCR3.0.vU6.gEdks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com b.knox wrote: > > hey all, > > it looks as though i finally have the chance to buy a lexicon vortex... > after many years of trauling the second hand market i just gave up and > phoned the lexicon distributor in australia.. seems there was one > left--an ex-demo that wasn't working. fine i say, fix it up and send it > around, um, any idea what you want to charge? oh.. it'll be a good > deal... blah blah blah... the thing arrived yesterday with the nice > hefty tag of > > $800 sorry to be blunt, but if you spend $800 on a lexicon vortex, you are insane. there are so many better ways to spend that kind of money. look into the new digitech studio quad 4, it's about $399 and offers all kinds of esoteric effects, including "time warp" and reverse delays. or, if you want to spend $800, get a second hand g-force or MPX-1. these boxes are light-years beyond the vortex. but it's your money. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 00:03:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA30993; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:03:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:03:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA0A43.598F@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 20:59:47 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? References: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OCl0D3.0.RP7.Lfdks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dr. Nerve. Naked City, or some other John Zorn projects. Colin|niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 00:13:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA32369; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:13:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:13:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990204230447.007c4a00@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:04:47 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? In-Reply-To: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"MaQn13.0.Jb7.vkdks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll second the votes for Doctor Nerve and Nake City. They are exactly what you're looking for. You could also check out Stull (a shamelss plug--but an accurate one, considering what you're looking for...). I've emailed you privately with some more info. Take care, Jeff McLeod At 11:11 PM 2/4/99 EST, you wrote: >im trying to find some artist that are doing out there jazz, preferably on the >really intense/experimental side. >with or without looping really > >any recommendations? > >thanks in advance > >rodrigo > > __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 00:29:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA01930; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:29:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:29:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA87A4.5E914C8A@tstar.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:56:21 -0600 From: Matthew Turner Reply-To: gturner@tstar.net Organization: Item Recordings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jeancolin@earthlink.net CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> <36BA0A43.598F@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"w5l5Q.0.DG.b0eks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My suggestions, Anything by Evan Parker, but I find The Evan Parker Electo-Acoustic Ensemble's "Towards The Margins" to be essential. Also, any of the Evan Parker/Lawrence Cassarly collaborations are well worth your time. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 00:29:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA01950; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:29:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:29:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA801A.265E0604@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:22:34 +1100 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: is it worth it? References: <36B9D9C8.B0724CAE@latrobe.edu.au> <36BA6861.25D3@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2uYXd1.0.gH.31eks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com chlorine dream wrote: > > > sorry to be blunt, but if you spend $800 on a lexicon vortex, you are insane. hehe.............. heheee heeeheeeeee haahaaaaaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhh oh.. > > there are so many better ways to spend that kind of money. i'm starting to wonder exactly what kind of money we are using down here -- it is actually made out of plastic so... > > > look into the new digitech studio quad 4, it's about $399 and offers all kinds of > esoteric effects, including "time warp" and reverse delays. i have fiddled around a lot with this little device and it seems to do a lot of nice things-- any parameter can link to one of two LFO's or the envelope---just having quad inputs and outputs is a huge plus---it lists here at around $1100... it's actually pretty hard to get a new rack unit for under $600 here... but you're right -- $800 for a fucked up ex-demo is just plain ludicrous... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 01:01:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA06411; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:01:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:01:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990205054633.13406.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [128.138.185.12] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: new to list...plex's anywhere? Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 21:46:33 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"8zvQw.0._21.6Meks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Call Robbs Music in Boulder, they often have them in stock. Great to >see another Boulder looper. >bret (in boulder) ---Hey thanks. I'm playing at the Boulder Theatre Friday night with Fat Mama and Ron Miles...no looping, though, just acoustic stuff. I'll be playing URB...come check it out, maybe we'll meet then. We should do some playing sometime, eh? l8r ---//////-------------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////--------------///////-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 01:21:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA08839; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:21:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:21:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902050617.WAA15314@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:17:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> from "Kriist@aol.com" at Feb 4, 99 11:11:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"v9j8C3.0.222.soeks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > im trying to find some artist that are doing out there jazz, preferably on the > really intense/experimental side. > with or without looping really > > any recommendations? Oh my... These artists are all over the place! I don't even know where to begin, other than to quickly jot down some names: George Lewis (the trombone/computer guy, not the clarinetist) Anthony Braxton John Zorn (and practically anything on his various labels such as Avant, Tzadik, etc.) Marc Ribot Dave Douglas David Torn (solo and countless collaborations) Splatter Trio Chris Speed Squarepusher Albert Ayler Eric Dolphy Ornette Coleman Derek Bailey Vijay Iyer Miroslav Tadic Tim Berne Gary Thomas Steve Coleman Massacre (Fred Frith/Bill Laswell/some drummer) Nels Cline Zussan Fasteau God knows how many people on this very list! (Stu Liebig, Ken Rosser, David Torn, Ed Chang, etc. etc.) Hundreds more names out there... Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 01:28:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA09622; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:28:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:28:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA8F53.3C29D217@texas.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:27:32 -0600 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? References: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qZwtl1.0.7F2.3xeks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com look into daddy monkey. james h sidlo may have something for you soon... bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 01:31:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA10179; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:31:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:31:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA8FBB.9B8B9799@texas.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:29:17 -0600 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Headrush References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"T8HgC2.0.xH2.hyeks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com perhaps your future? > what is the headrush pedal? > > rodrigo woof From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 01:40:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA11433; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:40:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:40:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: siforte@ix.netcom.com X-Sender: siforte@popd.ix.netcom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:36:03 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EMU LAUNCHPAD Resent-Message-ID: <"HAmRy.0.4c2.A4fks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 7:31 PM 2/3/99, Darren Blondin wrote: I recommend checking out the Doepfer Regelwerk...I paid only $450 for it. ------- Hi Darren, Can you tell me where you bought the Regalwork? Thanks, Sanford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 01:39:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA11301; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:39:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:39:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:55:23 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: East Coast tour In-Reply-To: <36BA801A.265E0604@latrobe.edu.au> References: <36B9D9C8.B0724CAE@latrobe.edu.au> <36BA6861.25D3@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"gSsyu2.0.sa2.O3fks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi everybody.Trying to arrange a mini tour of east coast week of 14 - 21 .Ill be doing several pieces for bowed & prepared National Steel gtr,involving looping ,pure tuning& 'punk 'minimalism(my term for it).I will also be performing as a member of Atacama ,who have a distinctive spooky gtr sound .- darkly psychedelic stuff .Its a joint tour of music from Louisville Ky that doesnt sound anything like Slint. We have a date in Detroit for fri 19 (radio broadcast) & Sat 20 , & would also love to hook up with anyone in Boston-Philly-NYC -Providence-Chicago etc. Please email me if anyone has any ideas / connections .Thanks so much- hope to meet some of you out there. Keenan Lawler From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 02:28:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA18606; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:28:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:28:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BA2C6E.2CA7@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:25:34 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? References: <199902050617.WAA15314@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JWgWd.0.bP4.bnfks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How about a Jazz-punk band called "The Dead KennyGees"? Colin|niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 02:44:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA20279; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:44:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:44:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 01:38:19 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990205014048.00955ab0@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 01:40:48 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Re: Headrush In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990204211134.007a19a0@pop.ici.net> References: <44d3adf5.36ba3cda@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"AIlnA1.0.8k4.S-fks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.akai.com/akaipro/namm99.html Looks quite fun to me.... At 09:11 PM 2/4/99 -0800, you wrote: >If anyone else just received the new Musician's Fiend catalog, have a look >at the bottom right corner of pg. 49. > >It's the Akai E1 Headrush Pedal. MF wants $199.99. > > > ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 02:45:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA20364; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:45:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:45:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MrBERWELL@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 02:40:56 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"BvI4S2.0.Sr4.g1gks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you live near NYC, guitarist Dave Fiuczynski has a new project called "Jazz Punk" which features Tim Lefebvre and Zach Danziger on bass and drums. I havent heard them yet, but will soon- they are playing at the Knits "Old Office" this month- he's there every Monday actually- tho not sure which night is Jazz Punk. Check Knits web page. I'm sure the project will live up to the name. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 06:19:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA08816; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:19:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:19:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001d01be50f8$39b928e0$de9925cb@default> From: "Colin Macpherson" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:11:05 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE514C.0AA4F620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"h9sSV1.0.fq1.f6jks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE514C.0AA4F620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please add me to your mailing list, thanks, markcopley@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE514C.0AA4F620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
please add me to your mailing list,=20 thanks,    markcopley@hotmail.com<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE514C.0AA4F620-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 06:24:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA09755; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:24:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 06:24:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: g-man@pop.luna.nl Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000701be46c4$25101d60$1e66e4d0@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:24:19 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Udo Garritzmann Subject: Re: echoplex Resent-Message-ID: <"B1psc3.0.Kx1.IAjks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello Jon, this is just to inform about my echoplex (switchable to 220 Volt) + footcontroler order. Counting the days since your last message times about 4 echoplexes a day, I thought by now I should have heard from you. Just to make sure my order is not forgotten. Best, Udo > Hello this is Jon from Alto Music. Gibson is building and sending me >all the echoplexes they can the same day. They are overnighting them to >me at their expense. We are shipping them in order that the orders were >received. Thank you for your patience any questions call me 914 692 6922. >I will be out of town for the NAMM show Jan 28-Feb1. In that time frame >speak to Gary as I will leave him with all pertinent info. Thanks again >for your patience. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 08:11:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA25556; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:11:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 08:11:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 07:00:56 -0600 (CST) Sender: crash@waste.org From: Todd Madson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Vortex + Headrush Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"N-KTy1.0.Mt5.Wjkks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com No, the Vortex (especially broken) is probably not worth $800. However, it is a very worthy device and once you get beyond the presets you can create some really amazing textures. If you check out: http://www.waste.org/~crash/asb.html You'll see a page of various MP3 files I've done. Check out "1998" in particular which has lots of Vortex textures, also check out the tune "aliensporebomb" where all the guitar parts as well as they keyboards were processed via vortex. The guitars some sort of giant chorusing effect with a distant ambience, the synths a sort of vibrant leslie'ish sound. The tune "late nite" has it all over a synth part and subtly on the clean guitar part. "Requiem" has a B3-ish part processed via vortex, as well as the lead guitar, and the lead synth. The drums even get processed by vortex in the second part of the tune. The newest tune "second dance" has all the guitars processed by vortex as well as a barely audible ambient part. None of these tunes have much in the way of looping (I have yet to put some of my loopwerk on the web yet) but the Vortex is my main processor for a lot of reasons. It's flexible, does stuff that nothing else does and compared to some of today's COSM-moded amazo processors still holds up in that textural area. More on tap tempo delay sequences in a future article. -t From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 09:10:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA32218; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:10:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:10:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902051407.JAA09812@ulster.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:40:15 -0500 Subject: truncated digests.... From: "jmw/cmu" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6OFcZ3.0.DU7.RZlks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Content-Type: text/plain > >Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 53 > >Today's Topics: Hi gang, Anyone else out there receiving truncated digests? It doesn't happen every time but every now & then I'll get a digest that gets cut off. jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 09:13:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA32712; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:13:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:13:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Guttera@chemie.uni-frankfurt.de Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:58:38 +0100 (CET) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: echoplex Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Host: stupool4.rz.uni-frankfurt.de Sender: Guttera@chemie.uni-frankfurt.de Resent-Message-ID: <"yYR4m3.0.oT7.PZlks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hallo out there! Is there anyone out there who would like to sell his echoplex? Thanks, Mike. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 09:37:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA03479; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:37:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 09:37:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BAFFDF.91A8671D@columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:27:52 -0500 From: Morgan Lang Reply-To: mhl21@columbia.edu X-Sender: "Morgan Lang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-NECCK (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: How 'bout a digest? References: <3.0.6.32.19990204230447.007c4a00@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ioda02.0.KL.uwlks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To the powers that be on this here list: Is there a "digest" version of this interesting but bulky list? If not, any plans to make one? --MHL. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 10:01:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA07524; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:01:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:01:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BB0113.BCE6B872@columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:33:02 -0500 From: Morgan Lang Reply-To: mhl21@columbia.edu X-Sender: "Morgan Lang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-NECCK (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: truncated digests.... References: <199902051407.JAA09812@ulster.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"te3G-3.0.SW.m_lks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have not recieved ANY digests! Is there a separate subscribe address for the digest version? I'm wearing out my "delete" key! --MHL jmw/cmu wrote: > > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 99 : Issue 53 > > > >Today's Topics: > Hi gang, > > Anyone else out there receiving truncated digests? > It doesn't happen every time but every now & then I'll get a digest that > gets cut off. > > jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 10:27:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA12884; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:27:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:27:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205090714.007f8ad0@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:07:14 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? In-Reply-To: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"K7j9b1.0.W52.lamks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:11 PM 2/4/99 EST, Kriist@aol.com wrote: >im trying to find some artist that are doing out there jazz, preferably on the >really intense/experimental side. >with or without looping really > >any recommendations? > >thanks in advance > >rodrigo > > Rodrigo, Would this possibly be for long distance recording (using 4 track Tascam 424 or DAT) that could be done via the U.S. mail? If so, I'm a bassist and "looper" into ECM sort-of stuff, and have even been part of CD projects which involved my involvement from afar. Contact me if you wish. Michael =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 10:28:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA13078; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:28:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:28:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205090239.007ff910@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:02:39 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: I think we have a winner here! In-Reply-To: <44d3adf5.36ba3cda@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"OoM2n2.0.Pu1.RWmks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:35 PM 2/4/99 EST, Egold2604@aol.com wrote: > > I have used a pds 8000 for years . . . also, if you >want, I'll manage a PDS-8000 site on Tools of the Trade > Aaron > [I have a question re: the PDS 8000, which I, too, have used for years, but with the following frustration: in the infinite loop mode, it drifts sharp until the unit has warmed up for about 2 hours. Has this been your experience, too? When I first bought it brand new, I sent it to Digitech for warranty work, and their response was something like "well, it must just be a design flaw. There's nothing we can do about it." Now that I have a real job (no longer a starving grad student), I've put my name and credit card number on the Oberheim Echoplex waiting list. I guess by next year I'll have a reliable unit. And yes, please be encouraged to "manage a PDS 8000 site on Tools of the Trade," whatever that means (I'm new to this mailing list, so I still don't have the lingo down yet.)] Best to all. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 10:32:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA13846; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:32:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:32:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990205091741.0080fb00@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 09:17:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? In-Reply-To: <7ce775d5.36ba6f7b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Lgf_G3.0.ah2.Wkmks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OOOOPPS!! I misunderstood your message, and thought you were looking to collaborate with experimental jazz musicians. As far as CDs, etc., in addition to those already mentioned in others' messages, I suggest: Manu Pekar Ahmad Mansour Bill Dixon Christi (Christy?) Doran Terje Rypdal (anything of his before 1980) Eberhard Weber (it's mellow, but experimental, and he's my favourite bassist. He uses looping on "Pendulum") Best, Michael. At 11:11 PM 2/4/99 EST, Kriist@aol.com wrote: >im trying to find some artist that are doing out there jazz, preferably on the >really intense/experimental side. >with or without looping really > >any recommendations? > >thanks in advance > >rodrigo > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 10:58:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA18918; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:58:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 10:58:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990205154228.4233.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.189] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: attn: GP-100 users; revision Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 07:42:28 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"2wytS1.0.2v3.o4nks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Still need help on this one, let me say what I got going on just to clarify things, guitar > volume pedal > Gp > Mackie 1202 > Amps etc.. In the FX loop of the GP I've got the Jamman. Here's the confusing part, (I've been to a few of the local shops and explained this and had a hard time getting this across at first) once I've got something looping, I can put the guitar down(not play anything) and everything will be fine, the looper just goes on doing it's thing. BUT, if I turn down the volume pedal OR the volume knob on my guitar, the looper's volume is also lowered. It was suggested that the GP can sense voltage from the guitar in which case this might be the culprit. Do you know of this feature? Can I turn it off? More weight is given to this theory due to the fact that if I place the JM before the preamp section it is not an issue, however I run into problems with functionality if I can't loop the preamp sounds. For example, being able to layer completely differant sound patches. If I remove the JM out of the FX loop and place it after the unit all together then I lose all stereo effects being that the Jamman is mono. That is one of the things I was excited about regarding the GP. I would be able to place the JM after the preamps and speaker sims but before the delays and chorus. Desperately seeking help Dennis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 11:01:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA19782; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:01:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:01:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902051542.HAA30322@scv2.apple.com> Subject: FS: JamMan, $450, Sellon upgrade Date: Fri, 5 Feb 99 09:45:33 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"Qhg333.0.q34.n7nks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yet another of the mythical Sellon upgrades: Lexicon JamMan $450.00 Asking Price: US$450 Condition: Excellent Age: 4 years Description: Lexicon JamMan for sale... Excelent condition w/32 second memory upgrade. Im yet another guy who has the Bob Sellon custom ROM (uninstalled) and will throw it into the deal as well. $450.00 plus shipping in the lower 48... Seller: Miko Biffle, 831.439.4622 E-mail: mike.biffle@wj.com (Profile) Location: CAPITOLA, CAJ Post Date: 2/4/99 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 11:11:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA21807; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:11:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:11:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BB1605.D00DE2D3@texas.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 10:02:14 -0600 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? References: <3.0.1.32.19990205090714.007f8ad0@tamiu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1rT9_3.0.ao4.TMnks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Would this possibly be for long distance recording (using 4 track Tascam > 424 or DAT) that could be done via the U.S. mail? this sounds like fun. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 11:51:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA29757; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:51:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:51:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BB2087.F71EA327@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:47:03 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Vortex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eb2hv.0.8k6.l_nks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How about a Jazz-punk band called "The Dead KennyGees"? Colin|niloC -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I love it!!! Question: Are Vortex units very available and if so, what is a good price on a used unit? Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 12:07:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA00040; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:07:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:07:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Future Perfect" To: Subject: RE: attn: GP-100 users; revision Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 11:56:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01be5128$743ab9e0$1caf0a3f@futurepe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19990205154228.4233.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"ynVaW.0.SO7.i9oks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't own the GP (yet), but I do use an ART preamp into a Mackie 1202vlz with an Echoplex...I plug the Echoplex input into Aux send 1 (set to pre-fader), and the Plex out into a channel on the Mackie..this allows me to 'tap off' a signal from whatever is plugged into the mixer, and then set the level, eq, etc of the loop separate from all the other instruments. This way, your GP settings couldn't possibly effect the Jamman. Just a thought... Dave Eichenberger ********************************************************************* 'Future Perfect' - art music guitars-loops-flutes-devices-voices http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ > > Still need help on this one, let me say what > I got going on just to clarify things, guitar > volume pedal > Gp > > Mackie 1202 > Amps etc.. > In the FX loop of the GP I've got the Jamman. Here's the confusing part, > (I've been to a few of the local shops and explained this and had a hard > time getting this across at first) once I've got something looping, I > can put the guitar down(not play anything) and everything will be fine, > the looper just goes on doing it's thing. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 14:35:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA25988; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:35:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:35:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: r_t_cummings@csi.com Message-ID: <36BAE666.EEB58CA@csi.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:39:02 +0100 From: Cummings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? References: <199902050617.WAA15314@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"KoUBY2.0.lk5.3Mqks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com BTW, the some drummer was Fred Mayer who later went on to play with Lou Reed. I remember hearing about a reformed Massacre recently, anyone else hear about it? As far as experimental-electronic-avant-jazz musics go, try "The Wire" magazine (not "Wired"). Great informative articles, lots of reviews etc. rob -the man cable- Paolo Valladolid schrieb: > > Massacre (Fred Frith/Bill Laswell/some drummer) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 15:08:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA32201; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:08:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:08:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:12:55 -0500 (EST) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199902051912.OAA08191@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"20AOU.0.4O7.qqqks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #100 February 4, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I began a month-long focus on early synth master, Larry Fast and his Synergy releases. For background information, please point your web browser to the WDIY web site or visit the... Synergy web site: http://www.eclipse.net/~synergy See also the NEARFest site: http://ghostland.com/nearfest The feature CD at midnight was "Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra" on Third Contact. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm VA [Air Sculpture] Sargasso Sea GoldTri: Volume One (Stonker) VA [Intelligentsia] Micro-Chip Pop GoldTri: Volume Two (Stonker) MinistryOfInsideThings (The last track ++) Live at the ICA (Synkronos) James Johnson Return Unity (Zero Music) Steve Roach & Vir Unis Bloodstreaming Body Electric (Projekt) Ian Boddy Shades of Dorian Untitled CDR from Ian (none) VA [Jeff Pearce] From the Quiet Hours The Ambient Eclipse (Mirage) 12:00 am Synergy (Larry Fast) Legacy ElecRealizForRockOrch(ThirdContact) Synergy (Larry Fast) SlaughterOn10thSt ElecRealizForRockOrch(ThirdContact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Synergy ElecRealizForRockOrch(ThirdContact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Relay Breakdown ElecRealizForRockOrch(ThirdContact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Warriors ElecRealizForRockOrch(ThirdContact) Deep Space Network The Beyond Within Big Rooms (Instinct Ambient) Spacecraft Galileo Hummel (Lektronic Sounscapes) 1:00 am ++ = I forgot to not the track's title in my log! * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on that synergistic composer, Larry Fast and his Synergy (R) releases. The feature CD at midnight will be "Games" on Third Contact. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 15:21:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA01899; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:21:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:21:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: g-man@pop.luna.nl Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000701be46c4$25101d60$1e66e4d0@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:22:07 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Udo Garritzmann Subject: Re: echoplex Resent-Message-ID: <"6C9fM.0.7T7._sqks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry, I send this to LD by mistake. It was intended for ALTOMUSIC. Udo >Hello Jon, > >this is just to inform about my echoplex (switchable to 220 Volt) + >footcontroler order. Counting the days since your last message times about >4 echoplexes a day, I thought by now I should have heard from you. Just to >make sure my order is not forgotten. > >Best, > >Udo > > > > >> Hello this is Jon from Alto Music. Gibson is building and sending me >>all the echoplexes they can the same day. They are overnighting them to >>me at their expense. We are shipping them in order that the orders were >>received. Thank you for your patience any questions call me 914 692 6922. >>I will be out of town for the NAMM show Jan 28-Feb1. In that time frame >>speak to Gary as I will leave him with all pertinent info. Thanks again >>for your patience. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 16:25:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA12499; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:25:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:25:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902052118.NAA24572@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 13:18:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <36BAE666.EEB58CA@csi.com> from "Cummings" at Feb 5, 99 01:39:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"NE6042.0.bk2.n_rks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > BTW, the some drummer was Fred Mayer who later went on to play with Lou > Reed. I remember hearing about a reformed Massacre recently, anyone else > hear about it? Yes, there's a new album on the Tzadik label, with a different drummer. http://www.tzadik.com > As far as experimental-electronic-avant-jazz musics go, try "The Wire" > magazine (not "Wired"). Great informative articles, lots of reviews etc. As far as magazines go, I highly recommend Cadence http://cadencebuilding.com/Cadence/CadenceMagazine.html Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 18:07:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA30993; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:07:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:07:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990205225628.16527.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:56:28 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Jones Subject: MP3.com/Plug To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"G5I3P1.0.4H7.7Wtks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Plug http://www.mp3.com/music/Electronica/8520.html This place seems pretty cool. Anyway its easy enuf to get some sounds on the net. this is lo-fi cassette to mp3 using xing encoder and then uploaded. Anyone else check this out? Send me some urls with songs. I need something new input. Randy Jones _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 18:49:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA05412; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:49:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 18:49:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990205184119.007b98f0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 18:41:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: Re: echovirus mp3 In-Reply-To: <199902040046.TAA28915@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"2eOUq2.0.Jx.Y5uks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >On this site, you have to actually double-click the link to >initiate a download, and even then, sometimes it doesn't work -- the file >becomes corrupt, and >fails to load properly. > That's unfortunate. Means I can't listen to it, since I use Netscape for browsing, and one of Netscape's flaws is it can't download mp3s without scrambling them. That task needs to be forwarded to another piece of software. Just goes to show you, friends don't let friends overuse scripts. Or use javascript. -- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 19:33:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA13777; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:33:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 19:33:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <00be01be5164$17ba0900$8d23dacf@primenet.com.primenet.com> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman@Work" From: "Stephen Goodman@Work" To: Subject: Re: echovirus mp3 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 16:03:08 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"0gchl2.0.P23.Sluks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There are other players out there capable of playing MP3 files, such as Windows Media Player... Or is this more of a proprietary Java-esque issue? Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions http://www.earthlight.net -----Original Message----- From: earthblind, starbound To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, February 05, 1999 3:55 PM Subject: Re: echovirus mp3 >>On this site, you have to actually double-click the link to >>initiate a download, and even then, sometimes it doesn't work -- the file >>becomes corrupt, and >>fails to load properly. >> > >That's unfortunate. Means I can't listen to it, since I use Netscape >for browsing, and one of Netscape's flaws is it can't download mp3s >without scrambling them. That task needs to be forwarded to another >piece of software. > >Just goes to show you, friends don't let friends overuse scripts. Or >use javascript. > >-- >*Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html > Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 21:46:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA03119; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:46:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:46:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:41:32 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"zpRoq1.0.5Z.zkwks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Not sure what the "Re:" is, since I haven't seen the original yet, but if you are looking for some "Punk Jazz", may I suggest a band out of California called Man Is The Bastard? Unfortunately, they have gone their separate ways, but when they were together they were fusing hardcore noise-punk with fusion-style jazz. It is amazing. Wood, one of the singer / bassists, should still have some releases available, 7"s for $3, postpaid in US, int'l is like $5. Contact - Man Is The Bastard p.o. box 164 Claremont CA 91711 tell him Henson sent you. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 21:53:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA03971; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:53:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:53:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: <4b8fb92b.36bbacff@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 21:46:23 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"9ts-z.0.Qk.Npwks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Another suggestion, which I didn't think of until reading some other posts, is Painkiller (Zorn / Bill Laswell / Mick Harris), especially the album "Execution Ground". Total improv, two discs, one day, two mixes - one straight, the other ambient. Some amazing stuff. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 22:41:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA09964; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:41:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 22:41:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:25:41 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? In-Reply-To: <199902052118.NAA24572@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> References: <36BAE666.EEB58CA@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"u49Ef.0.NJ2.Gaxks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 01:18 PM 2/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >> BTW, the some drummer was Fred Mayer who later went on to play with Lou >> Reed. I remember hearing about a reformed Massacre recently, anyone else >> hear about it? > >Yes, there's a new album on the Tzadik label, with a different drummer. >Not just 'some 'drummer but the brillant Charles Hayward-one of the great unsung musical geniuses of the last 20 yrs.This Massacre is a requirement! >http://www.tzadik.com > >check out Resonance as well thru Forced Exposure (free cd every issue!) Hey check out the new Annie Gosfield on tzadik also! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 5 23:35:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18073; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:35:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:35:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <47afa577.36bbc388@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:22:32 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: warr Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"ESJHk3.0.A14.jFyks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com first, id like to that all of you who replied to my punk jazz inquiries i will look into all of it(at least as much as present finances will allow) i was also wondering(as a former stick owner)is there a warr guitar sight, how pricy are these things fretless? etc.... thanks rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 03:09:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA12920; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:09:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 03:09:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199902052118.NAA24572@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> <36BAE666.EEB58CA@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 00:54:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? Resent-Message-ID: <"xQQAr1.0.Qb2.qL_ks"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >At 01:18 PM 2/5/99 -0800, you wrote: >>> BTW, the some drummer was Fred Mayer who later went on to play with Lou >>> Reed. I remember hearing about a reformed Massacre recently, anyone else >>> hear about it? >> >>Yes, there's a new album on the Tzadik label, with a different drummer. >>Not just 'some 'drummer but the brillant Charles Hayward-one of the great >unsung musical geniuses of the last 20 yrs.This Massacre is a requirement! >>http://www.tzadik.com >> >>check out Resonance as well thru Forced Exposure (free cd every issue!) > >Hey check out the new Annie Gosfield on tzadik also! Have you experienced the joy of Zubi Zuva, also on Tzadik? It's like Japanese cheerleaders on Tuvan acid! Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 05:10:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA24495; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:10:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 05:10:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36BAFFDF.91A8671D@columbia.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.19990204230447.007c4a00@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 01:50:43 -0800 To: mhl21@columbia.edu, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: How 'bout a digest? Resent-Message-ID: <"DGD9W2.0.bL5.P11ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 6:27 AM -0800 2/5/99, Morgan Lang wrote: >To the powers that be on this here list: >Is there a "digest" version of this interesting but bulky list? If not, any >plans to make one? yes, there is a digest. Please go to the list info page to learn all about it: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 07:45:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA09050; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:45:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 07:45:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990206073314.0079d2a0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:33:14 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: warr In-Reply-To: <47afa577.36bbc388@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"4W73d3.0.ku1.vL3ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:22 PM 2/5/99 EST, you wrote: >first, id like to that all of you who replied to my punk jazz inquiries >i will look into all of it(at least as much as present finances will allow) >i was also wondering(as a former stick owner)is there a warr guitar sight, how >pricy are these things >fretless? >etc.... > >thanks >rodrigo > If you're looking for general info about Warr guitars, Mark Warr himself has a site at If you're looking for purchase information (i.e. a "deal") you might be better off firing up your favorite search engine (try Dogpile) and contacting some retailers. Warr's site does sell directly, but you might find a used one somewhere (maybe) for a lot less. Hope this helps, Tim BTW, I'm holding you personally responsible for the frustrated gear-lust I'm experiencing right now. Ever since finding the Warr site, I WANT one o' those puppies, and they ain't cheap! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 09:00:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA16096; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:00:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 09:00:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE51E0.840707D0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: echovirus mp3 Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:41:02 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qUpuX1.0.qc3.JW4ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > one of Netscape's flaws is it can't > download mp3s without scrambling them. Netscape scrambling mp3s while *downloading* them? Rubbish. It's just files that are downloaded. Netscape doesn't scramble them on my PC - must be something else going wrong on yours. Why don't you really test this before blaming Netscape. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 10:21:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA24542; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:21:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:21:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902061520.KAA15422@ulster.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:12:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V99 #54 From: "jmw/cmu" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"njpmi.0.-g5.Nj5ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hello Jon, > >this is just to inform about my echoplex (switchable to 220 Volt) + >footcontroler order. Counting the days since your last message times about >4 echoplexes a day, I thought by now I should have heard from you. Just to >make sure my order is not forgotten. > >Best, > >Udo Udo, This is not the John from Alto music (but I'm the guy who setup the bulk purchase deal). I know for a fact that the people at Alto are doing their best to fill the orders that they have. (I was the first one to order from them and I *just got* my foot controller - 3 months!) I don't think that John is on the Loopers Delight list - their email is alto@warwick.net sincerely, jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 10:43:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA26738; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:43:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:43:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990206153236.6921.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.73.22] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I got an Echoplex! Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:32:35 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"blzH.0.5E6.X16ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all... I found a great used Oberheim Echoplex here in Boulder for $575 w/controller. Big thanks to Micheal Reese and Robb's Music for selling it to me (are you on this list, Mr. Reese?). Thanks to all who showed up at the Fat Mama Acoustic Project show last night at the Boulder Theatre. Keep an eye out for the "InfoSeek Hot Link" page for 3D video and audio of the event, which InfoSeek will have up and running a week or two. BTW, anyone wanna buy a used Boomerang? ---//////-------------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////--------------///////-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 11:13:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA31100; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:13:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:13:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990206155210.7235.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.73.22] From: "kameleyon" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I got an Echoplex! Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:52:10 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"1CyTF1.0.an6.tJ6ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all... I found a great used Oberheim Echoplex here in Boulder for $575 w/controller. Big thanks to Micheal Reese and Robb's Music for selling it to me (are you on this list, Mr. Reese?). Thanks to all who showed up at the Fat Mama Acoustic Project show last night at the Boulder Theatre. Keep an eye out for the "InfoSeek Hot Link" page for 3D video and audio of the event, which InfoSeek will have up and running a week or two. BTW, anyone wanna buy a used Boomerang? ---//////-------------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////--------------///////-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 11:48:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA02743; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:48:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:48:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BC6EFC.C584AEA1@vtx.ch> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 17:34:04 +0100 From: Claude Voit Reply-To: ClaudeVoit@netscape.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB,af MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: GR-30 editor adaptation for Emagic Sound Diver for you Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0pkHl1.0.xJ.K-6ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm happy to share with you this brand new GR-30 adaptation for the sound diver librarian, editor features: Librarian for system area, patches, arps (the patch data is separated from the arp data so you can mix and match patches and arps) in fact you can even send new arps during arpeggio playing with a hold; the GR supports this sys ex real-time burst bravely while playing cool no ? All parameters are supported in a very personal digital guitar layout the arp editor is very very useful and easy voila please don't harass me with questions about it, its really simple to use and I guess it works fine for me. If one finds a way to cut and paste the original patches names to other patch locations let me know, I didn't find how ..be.. if I ever upgrade it or else I'll let you know more info's on sound diver and the Sound Diver mailing list : http://www.emagic.de thanks to Paolo Valladolid the Digital guitar site had some space for it http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/gr30editor.html have fun Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 11:54:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA03327; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:54:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 11:54:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 11:49:40 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? In-Reply-To: References: <199902052118.NAA24572@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> <36BAE666.EEB58CA@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"fBXwP.0.WR.O27ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Have you experienced the joy of Zubi Zuva, also on Tzadik? It's like >Japanese cheerleaders on Tuvan acid! >No but I just saw the Tuvan throat singers give a concert/q&a session at the music school -pretty awesome----------K > >Edwin Hurwitz >Boulder CO >http://www.indra.com/~edwin > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 13:58:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA19327; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:58:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:58:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:47:48 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"0Sk5d3.0.iR4.uv8ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/6/99 2:11:19 AM Central Standard Time, edwin@indra.com writes: << Have you experienced the joy of Zubi Zuva, also on Tzadik? It's like Japanese cheerleaders on Tuvan acid! >> if you like that, check out Zubi Zuva member Tatsuya Yoshida's other bands The Ruins (drums and bass, freak jazz blasting) and 100 Sights of Koenji (rather hard to find, try Aquarius Records on the web http://aquarius.bianca.com/).... it's crazy japanese prog/metal/folk/jazz weirdness. It's amazing. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 14:04:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20248; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:04:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:04:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BC2025.6488@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:57:41 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I got an Echoplex! References: <19990206155210.7235.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"w0NM_1.0.Jd4.209ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How much for the used boomarang? Colin|niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 14:14:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA21698; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:14:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 14:14:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990206190523.006bad64@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:05:23 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: NEW Punk Jazz... Resent-Message-ID: <"22yCp2.0.Vy4.z89ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com maybe it's not the stuff you're expecting but Clifford Gilberto's "I was young and I needed the money" cd IMO it's THE perfect example of modern jazz/electronica/drum&bass/avantgarde music with a real punk attitude in the use of sampler. Check it out on Ninja Tune records. This guy is really inspiring... ciao leo PS Kim, buy this record!! I know you'll thank me! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 17:05:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA10169; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:05:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 17:05:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:47:58 -0500 (EST) From: CHRISTOPHER T SPROUL Subject: dtorn To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@annihilist.com Message-id: <01J7FHXMM03690NDLX@MAIL.CLARION.EDU> X-VMS-To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@ANNIHILIST.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"xv19T2.0.Cw1.jXBls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone out there have the torn cd - What Means Solid, Traveller? or any live footage of DT? If so, I'll either buy or trade for a recorded copy of this stuff via snail mail. Also - could someone explain to me what kinds of things an E-bow does, and is it worth the purchase. thanks! chris From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 18:56:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA24446; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:56:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:56:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:49:26 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: dtorn Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"A1C2l1.0.xh5.XJDls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com listening to what means right now as i read your email. weird. i like it a lot. the ebow excites the string of a guitar like feedback from a loud amp. it can be good for an effect but i was never crazy about it. hope this helps. PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 20:24:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA02549; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:24:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:24:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990206202421.0079c180@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:24:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow In-Reply-To: <01J7FHXMM03690NDLX@MAIL.CLARION.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wRZa8.0.lR.qeEls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Also - could someone explain to me what kinds of things an E-bow does, and is >it worth the purchase. An E-Bow generates a small electromagnetic field which you can focus on a guitar string to keep it vibrating without picking. It's useful for legato, single-string playing. The lack of a sharp, percussive attack, and the infinite sustain are well suited to slide, and work particularly well with a lot of delay. The manufacturer claims that one can use the E-Bow to mimic conventional instruments like horns and synths, but I've never really found this to be true. It is only suited for monophonic playing, one string at a time, although many players have developed proficiency at jumping the device from string to string to arpeggiate. (I've not found this technique all that useful, since with the amount of delay I like to use with the E-Bow, any squawks, clicks or other unintentional noises which happen to occur when jumping strings come back to haunt me, and this is even more true when looping!) You CAN get a deep, throaty squeal out of your low E using an E-Bow that's pretty cool, kind of like a rhinoceros on steroids, but not every player would find a use for the sounds of large, angry, chemically-enhanced African wildlife! The newest version of the E-Bow features a switch that is said to emphasize higher harmonics, but mine is the older model, so I can't tell you how well the switch works. The E-Bow IS a neat effect, but it's really not all that versatile (despite exaggerated claims of the E-Bow's usefulness on bass and acoustic guitars which I've found to be rather a stretch). You can get pretty much the same sound with distortion and controlled feedback, although in low-volume situations and when using an amp emulator, the E-Bow can be useful. It might be a good idea to see if you can borrow one from someone to try it out before spending $70-100 for one... You'll know fairly soon if it's something you'll use a lot, in which case it's probably worth it. I know a lot of people who've bought them and hardly ever take 'em out of their guitar cases, though... I sort of fall in the middle of the road on that one; I like my E-Bow well enough, but I really don't use it all that often. You might be better off filling in any vacant spots in your pedalboard first with stuff you're more certain you'll use often. Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 21:33:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA11046; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:33:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:33:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BE51E0.840707D0.mpeters@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 18:18:02 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: AW: echovirus mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"ScGPX.0.BD2.nUFls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:41 AM -0800 2/6/99, Michael Peters wrote: >> one of Netscape's flaws is it can't >> download mp3s without scrambling them. > >Netscape scrambling mp3s while *downloading* them? Rubbish. It's just files >that are downloaded. Netscape doesn't scramble them on my PC - must be >something else going wrong on yours. Why don't you really test this before >blaming Netscape. > I believe there is some problem with Netscape 4.5 and java sound, which will hopefully get fixed eventually, but I've never heard of any trouble with mp3. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 21:38:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA11707; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:38:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:38:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990206213308.007ad9f0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:33:08 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: Re: echovirus mp3 In-Reply-To: <199902060806.DAA12550@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"UtCfx.0.yf2.eiFls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >There are other players out there capable of playing MP3 files, such as >Windows Media Player... Or is this more of a proprietary Java-esque issue? It's not a play issue, it's a download issue. Netscape downloads mp3s in 7 bit mode, basically ASCII. However, mp3s are binary files, and need to be downloaded in 8 bit mode. Now you can download ASCII with an 8 bit connection, easy, but if you try the other way around, you get crap. A lot of people zip their mp3s for this very reason--netscape is intelligent enough to download zip files in 8 bit mode. There is no way to tell Netscape to download binary, like you could with a ten year old ftp program. This is a flaw in a program that is otherwise about a million times more pleasant to deal with than the Microsoft product. GetRight is a program that will do the trick, though, but it only works with valid URLs. Which is killed by the cgi script. -- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 22:05:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA15116; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:05:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:05:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990206185319.01286a40@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 18:53:19 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: echovirus mp3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990206213308.007ad9f0@pop.mindspring.com> References: <199902060806.DAA12550@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"SXXB12.0.fF3.TzFls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Are we talking about a specific verion of netscape for a specific platform? If not, I can vouch for netscape 3.01 win32's ability to download mp3s with no problems whatsoever. At 09:33 PM 2/6/99 -0500, someone wrote: >>There are other players out there capable of playing MP3 files, such as >>Windows Media Player... Or is this more of a proprietary Java-esque issue? > >It's not a play issue, it's a download issue. Netscape downloads mp3s in >7 bit mode, basically ASCII. However, mp3s are binary files, and need to >be downloaded in 8 bit mode. Now you can download ASCII with an 8 bit >connection, easy, but if you try the other way around, you get crap. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 22:55:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA22271; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:55:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:55:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002801be5222$d9651a40$c65d32cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:47:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"fre0G2.0.r85.ooGls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How does the Ebow compare to the Sustainiac - a new and improved version of the Sustainiac is about to be released for about $200 (plus installation) - I have the EBow Plus and find it good to touch up notes for sustain in recording - not too practical for a complete solo. Gerry P gerryp@air.on.ca -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, February 07, 1999 1:21 AM Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow >>Also - could someone explain to me what kinds of things an E-bow does, and is >>it worth the purchase. > >An E-Bow generates a small electromagnetic field which you can focus on a >guitar string to keep it vibrating without picking. It's useful for legato, >single-string playing. The lack of a sharp, percussive attack, and the >infinite sustain are well suited to slide, and work particularly well with >a lot of delay. The manufacturer claims that one can use the E-Bow to mimic >conventional instruments like horns and synths, but I've never really found >this to be true. It is only suited for monophonic playing, one string at a >time, although many players have developed proficiency at jumping the >device from string to string to arpeggiate. (I've not found this technique >all that useful, since with the amount of delay I like to use with the >E-Bow, any squawks, clicks or other unintentional noises which happen to >occur when jumping strings come back to haunt me, and this is even more >true when looping!) You CAN get a deep, throaty squeal out of your low E >using an E-Bow that's pretty cool, kind of like a rhinoceros on steroids, >but not every player would find a use for the sounds of large, angry, >chemically-enhanced African wildlife! The newest version of the E-Bow >features a switch that is said to emphasize higher harmonics, but mine is >the older model, so I can't tell you how well the switch works. The E-Bow >IS a neat effect, but it's really not all that versatile (despite >exaggerated claims of the E-Bow's usefulness on bass and acoustic guitars >which I've found to be rather a stretch). You can get pretty much the same >sound with distortion and controlled feedback, although in low-volume >situations and when using an amp emulator, the E-Bow can be useful. It >might be a good idea to see if you can borrow one from someone to try it >out before spending $70-100 for one... You'll know fairly soon if it's >something you'll use a lot, in which case it's probably worth it. I know a >lot of people who've bought them and hardly ever take 'em out of their >guitar cases, though... I sort of fall in the middle of the road on that >one; I like my E-Bow well enough, but I really don't use it all that often. >You might be better off filling in any vacant spots in your pedalboard >first with stuff you're more certain you'll use often. > >Tim > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 23:26:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27146; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:26:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:26:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:26:04 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"RoUnm3.0.xO6.CIHls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Chris- cant think of a better purchase for the money!I got my first ebow in 1984 & have burned out 2 since buying the plus(nifty blue light model).At first I did emulate alot of the the heroes of the ebow,but after alot of chemical intake I realized the potential of this device & ive used it in practically every musical endeavor for 15 yrs I once asked a local hotshot gtr shop owner how it was possible to play more than one string at a time with it ,his reply was to rake it across the strings really fast! Knowing full well he was Bs ing me as usual I dismissed it as more useless advice from the asshole for the file...I went home that night & discoved he was right.a It has an enduring sustaining (forgive me!) quality that I return to.Ive \mastered alot of the advanced techniques & honestly have about 20 different approaches of my own.Yes you can do a sax,oboe ,clarinet etc also that amazing flock-of birds bowing sound that is totally unique to the ebow.I find its important to realize the full potential of this device is often found while combinig it with other instuments(not ness gtr)&effects concepts etc.It really is a great ideas tool& it always stimulates something new for me.For xample if you have a Zvex fuzz factory(& who amoung us being of unsound mind wouldnt?)then you have an amazing range of beautiful & abrasive osscilating ,horn like & radio wave surfer sounds used in conjunction with an ebow.Yes this device is essentialy a controllable electromagnet but designed for making music with.Ive come up with many techniques based on the physical limitation of having this thing in my hand & using the extraneous 'noises ' it makes while not doing its real job ,sustaining a string BTW Ive recorded some amazing drone based music using the ebow on a fender bass-it can be done!Great on acoustic insruments-Just played a show in a art gallery using 2 ebowed acoustic guitars with micotonal slide & tambora ..no electric sound & every one could here it .buzzing & humming away.Looping with an ebow ......well..space doesnt allow for the possibilties.. Most important reason to have an ebow it gives instant acsess to the DRONE and dont we need that in all our lives? only a short list of people who have used the ebow as a real tool to achieve great music: David First .Elliot Sharp. Fred Frith. Arnold Dreyblatt.-Roger Kleier -BJ Cole Just my 2 cents -----------Keenan >>Also - could someone explain to me what kinds of things an E-bow does, and is >>it worth the purchase. > >An E-Bow generates a small electromagnetic field which you can focus on a >guitar string to keep it vibrating without picking. It's useful for legato, >single-string playing. The lack of a sharp, percussive attack, and the >infinite sustain are well suited to slide, and work particularly well with >a lot of delay. The manufacturer claims that one can use the E-Bow to mimic >conventional instruments like horns and synths, but I've never really found >this to be true. It is only suited for monophonic playing, one string at a >time, although many players have developed proficiency at jumping the >device from string to string to arpeggiate. (I've not found this technique >all that useful, since with the amount of delay I like to use with the >E-Bow, any squawks, clicks or other unintentional noises which happen to >occur when jumping strings come back to haunt me, and this is even more >true when looping!) You CAN get a deep, throaty squeal out of your low E >using an E-Bow that's pretty cool, kind of like a rhinoceros on steroids, >but not every player would find a use for the sounds of large, angry, >chemically-enhanced African wildlife! The newest version of the E-Bow >features a switch that is said to emphasize higher harmonics, but mine is >the older model, so I can't tell you how well the switch works. The E-Bow >IS a neat effect, but it's really not all that versatile (despite >exaggerated claims of the E-Bow's usefulness on bass and acoustic guitars >which I've found to be rather a stretch). You can get pretty much the same >sound with distortion and controlled feedback, although in low-volume >situations and when using an amp emulator, the E-Bow can be useful. It >might be a good idea to see if you can borrow one from someone to try it >out before spending $70-100 for one... You'll know fairly soon if it's >something you'll use a lot, in which case it's probably worth it. I know a >lot of people who've bought them and hardly ever take 'em out of their >guitar cases, though... I sort of fall in the middle of the road on that >one; I like my E-Bow well enough, but I really don't use it all that often. >You might be better off filling in any vacant spots in your pedalboard >first with stuff you're more certain you'll use often. > >Tim > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 23:27:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27250; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:27:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:27:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BD147C.EB0F8C92@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:20:12 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Ebow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CJNXY3.0._S6.eJHls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here is a link to the Ebow web site that has a long demo in different formats- worth a listen even if you already own one- http://www.ebow.com/24hr.htm Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 6 23:29:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA27474; Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:29:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 23:29:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 14:26:06 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990206202421.0079c180@pop.ici.net> References: <01J7FHXMM03690NDLX@MAIL.CLARION.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"6ZALO3.0.WO6.8IHls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Tim-I cant think of a better purchase for the money!I got my first ebow in 1984 & have burned out 2 since buying the plus(nifty blue light model).At first I did emulate alot of the the heroes of the ebow,but after alot of chemical intake I realized the potential of this device & ive used it in practically every musical endeavor for 15 yrs I once asked a local hotshot gtr shop owner how it was possible to play more than one string at a time with it ,his reply was to rake it across the strings really fast! Knowing full well he was Bs ing me as usual I dismissed it as more useless advice from the asshole for the file...I went home that night & discoved he was right.a It has an enduring sustaining (forgive me!) quality that I return to.Ive \mastered alot of the advanced techniques & honestly have about 20 different approaches of my own.Yes you can do a sax,oboe ,clarinet etc also that amazing flock-of birds bowing sound that is totally unique to the ebow.I find its important to realize the full potential of this device is often found while combinig it with other instuments(not ness gtr)&effects concepts etc.It really is a great ideas tool& it always stimulates something new for me.For xample if you have a Zvex fuzz factory(& who amoung us being of unsound mind wouldnt?)then you have an amazing range of beautiful & abrasive osscilating ,horn like & radio wave surfer sounds used in conjunction with an ebow.Yes this device is essentialy a controllable electromagnet but designed for making music with.Ive come up with many techniques based on the physical limitation of having this thing in my hand & using the extraneous 'noises ' it makes while not doing its real job ,sustaining a string BTW Ive recorded some amazing drone based music using the ebow on a fender bass-it can be done!Looping with an ebow ......well..space doesnt allow for the possibilties.. Most important reason to have an ebow it gives instant acsess to the DRONE and dont we need that in all our lives? only a short list of people who have used the ebow as a real tool to achieve great music: David First .Elliot Sharp. Fred Frith. Arnold Dreyblatt.- Just my 2 cents -----------Keenan >>Also - could someone explain to me what kinds of things an E-bow does, and is >>it worth the purchase. > >An E-Bow generates a small electromagnetic field which you can focus on a >guitar string to keep it vibrating without picking. It's useful for legato, >single-string playing. The lack of a sharp, percussive attack, and the >infinite sustain are well suited to slide, and work particularly well with >a lot of delay. The manufacturer claims that one can use the E-Bow to mimic >conventional instruments like horns and synths, but I've never really found >this to be true. It is only suited for monophonic playing, one string at a >time, although many players have developed proficiency at jumping the >device from string to string to arpeggiate. (I've not found this technique >all that useful, since with the amount of delay I like to use with the >E-Bow, any squawks, clicks or other unintentional noises which happen to >occur when jumping strings come back to haunt me, and this is even more >true when looping!) You CAN get a deep, throaty squeal out of your low E >using an E-Bow that's pretty cool, kind of like a rhinoceros on steroids, >but not every player would find a use for the sounds of large, angry, >chemically-enhanced African wildlife! The newest version of the E-Bow >features a switch that is said to emphasize higher harmonics, but mine is >the older model, so I can't tell you how well the switch works. The E-Bow >IS a neat effect, but it's really not all that versatile (despite >exaggerated claims of the E-Bow's usefulness on bass and acoustic guitars >which I've found to be rather a stretch). You can get pretty much the same >sound with distortion and controlled feedback, although in low-volume >situations and when using an amp emulator, the E-Bow can be useful. It >might be a good idea to see if you can borrow one from someone to try it >out before spending $70-100 for one... You'll know fairly soon if it's >something you'll use a lot, in which case it's probably worth it. I know a >lot of people who've bought them and hardly ever take 'em out of their >guitar cases, though... I sort of fall in the middle of the road on that >one; I like my E-Bow well enough, but I really don't use it all that often. >You might be better off filling in any vacant spots in your pedalboard >first with stuff you're more certain you'll use often. > >Tim > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 04:00:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA28312; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:00:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 04:00:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: echovirus mp3 Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 00:57:51 -0800 Message-ID: <000501be5277$f1056100$33ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990206213308.007ad9f0@pop.mindspring.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"lnBGo3.0.Uo6.nLLls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll have to differ. I've used both IE and Navigator for a long time and hands down IE is a superior experience. There are lots of little tricks in IE that make life a lot easier and browsing a more speedier and pleasant experience. How do I love IE? Let me count the ways... -----Original Message----- From: earthblind, starbound [mailto:leper@mindspring.com] Sent: Saturday 06 February 1999 6:33 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: echovirus mp3 A lot of people zip their mp3s for this very reason--netscape is intelligent enough to download zip files in 8 bit mode. There is no way to tell Netscape to download binary, like you could with a ten year old ftp program. This is a flaw in a program that is otherwise about a million times more pleasant to deal with than the Microsoft product. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 06:56:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA10329; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 06:56:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 06:56:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990207115121.0069de50@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 12:51:21 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow Resent-Message-ID: <"n7aaV3.0.eL2.2uNls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HI tim how difficult is playing the E-bow on a bass? No problem with the string gauge? Any special advice? thnx leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 08:08:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA17082; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:08:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 08:08:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990207130253.803.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 05:02:53 -0800 (PST) From: John Tidwell Subject: 4 meg 30 pin simms $12 each To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"SlvmQ2.0.az3.UvOls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just maxed out my EDP. :) http://www.computerpartsusa.com Use the money you save to have it sent FedEx 2nd Day. UPS lost my first order. Tell them that the email pain in the ass sent you! John == John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 09:36:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA26740; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:36:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 09:36:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990207142230.018cbbb8@artist-shop.com> X-Sender: artshop@artist-shop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 09:22:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Gary Davis Subject: Re: dtorn (What Means 'Solid,' Traveller? availability) Resent-Message-ID: <"VxGMx3.0.NC6.ZAQls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:35 PM 2/6/99 -0500, chris wrote: > >Does anyone out there have the torn cd - What Means Solid, Traveller? or >any live footage of DT? If so, I'll either buy or trade for a recorded copy >of this stuff via snail mail. What Means 'Solid,' Traveller? is easily available through The Artist Shop as is the rest of Torn's output on CMP. In fact, we have the entire CMP catalog at which includes Tripping Over God, Polytown and other releases in which Torn played a significant role. Since I get these CD's directly from the label, I rarely have trouble getting them in. Although sometimes there's a delay in restocking since the label is overseas. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 10:47:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA04472; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:47:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:47:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <8110e312.36bdb37e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:38:38 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: 4 meg 30 pin simms $12 each Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"-JHWo2.0.4Y.UDRls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/7/99 7:10:03 AM, wedgehed@yahoo.com writes: >Just maxed out my EDP. :) Hey Kim, Didn't it used to cost over $1000 to max out an EDP? At this point, they should just sell the EDP maxed out! I wonder, I maxed out my EDP last year for something like $65, but I really haven't come close to using 198 seconds of looping memory. Does anyone see where an "EDP II" could use more/cheaper memory? Perhaps it would be cool to have a unit that would either do stereo loops, or allow you to run two separate loops...... Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 10:54:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA05572; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:54:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 10:54:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990207104801.00f98f3c@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: km15@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:48:01 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: kevin miller Subject: Re: Teo Macero "Modulations" Interview online In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"gNTVi2.0.851.aLRls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Just a thought, not having heard the LD CD yet, but could your original DAT >been at 48K? Transferring a 48k tape at 44.1 usually gives that effect, >tuning it down around a whole step. I do DAT to CD almost everyday, and I >screwed up on this on a clients CD yesterday. It's can be pretty easy to >miss if the person doing the transfer doesn't know the material. Thanks Dave, this explains it. Well, live and learn! Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 11:28:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA09812; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:28:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 11:28:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990207112609.0079ddb0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:26:09 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990207115121.0069de50@mail.dada.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"bZhDK2.0.EC2.JsRls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Leo, The two biggest difficulties you'll run into using an E-Bow on bass are 1) the string spacing guides are more appropriate for guitar and make it difficult to accurately zero in on a string, and 2) the greater mass of the strings on a bass, especially the E & A (or even lower if you've got one o' them critters with the extra strings like Jeff Berlin WASN'T using at NAMM; see archive for funny anecdote...) means that it takes the E-Bow longer to get them vibrating, hence the attack may be too slow to be musically useful. But, as Keenan Lawler pointed out last night, it CAN be done, and is particularly effective (and loop-friendly) for creating a droning pedal point bass part. As I remarked to Keenan off-list, I wonder how much luck E-Bow would have if they issued a larger, more powerful BASS E-Bow with the appropriate string spacing... Maybe if enough of us tried to convince 'em the demand would be sufficient for it to be worth it to them... (Or, more likely, they've already considered it and concluded, as Keenan has, that their existing model works well enough on a bass, and that we just need to practice more to get good at using it! Blatant conjecture, but not a far-fetched scenario!) Clifford Novey's posting last night contained an URL which lets you hear several great examples of E-Bow playing and, as he pointed out, is worth a listen even for those of us who already own E-Bows. Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 13:10:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA23923; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:10:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:10:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:28:35 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Re: *Echovirus* Blindfold OneofaKind remix Resent-Message-ID: <"EI01r1.0.RK5.ZHTls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >At 05:07 PM 2/2/99 +0200, you wrote: >>On 1/25/99 Rob Switzer echoed: > >> >>I've listened to this track a few times now and want to encourage everyone >>to go give this a listen. Very nicely crafted trip-hop/ambient dub. I >>suspect that the guitar bursts I hear are samples from Ed Chang? > >Yes -- the guitar solo is de(re)constructed Ed. The bass sound was also >derived from Ed's guitar. > >> >>Rob has created a great swirling undercurrent that is deftly mixed. When >>the base rests, I'm really intrigued by what is going on underneath. > >Many of the background textures are derived from Ed's various clarinet >solos, pitch shifted/doubled, (spatially) processed with the Audiomulch >s-spat tool, and looped. > Rob, Would you say that most of the sonic material is Ed CHang then, and you have just manipulated this. I'd love to hear the origianl along side this. Any plans for posting it at mp3.com or elsewhere. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 13:57:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA30268; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:57:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:57:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: M3chakucha@aol.com Message-ID: <734d0500.36bde075@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 13:50:29 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: dtorn/E-Bow Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"tfTwp1.0.E57.D1Uls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Leo, I use both an older E-Bow and one of the plastic ones on a Steinberger 5-string bass and a Kramer 8-string... The majour difference between using it on an electric guitar or an acoustic or other instrument is trying to keep the E-Bow centered above the string or strings that you want to "activate." Single string instruments are much easier to handle/control/activate than double strings. As for string gauges, the big thing I've found is that the larger the easier it is for them to go out of control, but on the same token, you can get some really interesting sounds out of the larger gauged strings. The other side is to remember that the E-Bow activates strings faster the smaller in gauge they are, but that sometimes it is more difficult to activate the smaller strings unless you have the E-Bow perfectly centered. Takes a lot of practice but it sounds interesting. Hope this helps, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 14:43:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA04933; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:43:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:43:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990207133005.00827400@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:30:05 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Alternatives to Oberheim? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"w75iD1.0.Jk._cUls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Loopers, I just can't believe the expensive, nearly-impossible-to-acquire Oberheim Echoplex is the ONLY thing on the market that allows infinite loops/layerings. Is there anything else available, besides the 4-second pedals (Zoom 508, DOD DFX94)?? Has anyone ever tried out the Zoom 2100 "32-Second Sample Guitar Effects Processor"? I see it in the Musician's Friend catalog for $199.00 list (their price $149). It says the following: "Phrase sampler records up to 32 seconds from CD or tape OR YOUR OWN PHRASES (my emphasis). You can also switch between three different 5 second samples to play over. . . " Could these "samples" be automatically repeatable (looped)? What the hell was Lexicon thinking when they discontinued the Jam Man? I just don't really want to spend the better part of $800 right now simply because my Digitech RDS 8000 drifts sharp until it's warmed up for 2 hours. I just found this wonderful LD list service a few days ago, so please accept my apology if this question has been asked a thousand times. Thanks. Michael =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 15:15:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA10913; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:15:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:15:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:30:56 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Vortexes for sale Resent-Message-ID: <"8WPcC3.0.R_1.F4Vls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Loopers, There are two vortexes(vortexi):) for bid at the Rogue Music Auction. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 15:36:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA14684; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:36:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:36:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990207152504.007aeb60@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 15:25:04 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: Re: mp3 cooking In-Reply-To: <199902070435.XAA28418@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Wdqpj.0.h53.YQVls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Are we talking about a specific verion of netscape for a specific platform? Possibly. Netscape post-4.0, for Windows and MacOS, as well as the AOL browser (it wasn't MY AOL, honest) all cook mp3s. There are programs, 'cook' and 'phyx,' which are windows programs that are supposed to correct this program (just not worth my trouble to download and install, since I never download mp3s with Netscape). -- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 16:11:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA24186; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:11:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:11:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990207205511.25286.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:55:10 -0800 (PST) From: Bret Subject: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"i7pOz3.0.865.WwVls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ---"Michael S. Yoder" wrote: > Dear Loopers, > I just can't believe the expensive, nearly-impossible-to-acquire Oberheim > Echoplex is the ONLY thing on the market that allows infinite > loops/layerings. Is there anything else available.. First, "nearly-impossible-to-acquire", this is absurd. I have never had any problem getting EDPs, and I have 3. If you can't find them (at least in the USA) then you aren't looking. Call or email Gibson, and they can tell you where they shipped EDP recently. Infinite loops/layerings are hardly what sets the EDP apart from the crowd. The jamman, the boomerang, the EH16 second delay, and probably many others allow this. If that is your only requirment then seek those. The EDP is special for more reasons that I can state here, but a few aspects are: 1. Undo 2. Brother Sync 3. Stereo Brother Sync 4. Multiply 5. Confirgurable Quantize/no Quantize/Confirm on switch actions 6. Allows creation and storage and replay of multiple unique loops, each of unique length. 7. 198 seconds Read the FAQ at Loopers Delight web page. I'm sure other EDP users have other favorite features, but IMO there is no substitute. bret _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 16:47:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA29771; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:47:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:47:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <28388565.36be0793@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 16:37:23 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"aPprm1.0.bu6.aTWls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/7/99 7:44:28 PM, myoder@tamiu.edu writes: << I just don't really want to spend the better part of $800 right now >> How about spending the lessor part of $600? You are looking for EDP in all the wrong places! Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 17:47:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA05002; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:47:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:47:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8110e312.36bdb37e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:11:27 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: 4 meg 30 pin simms $12 each Resent-Message-ID: <"uIqpI3.0.Bp.WJXls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 7:38 AM -0800 2/7/99, Marzzz@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/7/99 7:10:03 AM, wedgehed@yahoo.com writes: > >>Just maxed out my EDP. :) > > >Hey Kim, > >Didn't it used to cost over $1000 to max out an EDP? yeppers. and what an extravagant luxury it was too.... >At this point, they >should just sell the EDP maxed out! well, they used to sell it with 12 seconds installed, now they sell it with 50 seconds stock. wouldn't surprise me if they eventually decide to sell it stock with the full memory installed. Probably memory is not quite cheap enough for that yet. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 17:45:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA04781; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:45:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 17:45:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990207133005.00827400@tamiu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 14:26:57 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? Resent-Message-ID: <"nsssq2.0.Yp.ZJXls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Dear Loopers, > >I just can't believe the expensive, nearly-impossible-to-acquire Oberheim >Echoplex is the ONLY thing on the market that allows infinite >loops/layerings. I continue to be amused by <$600 being considered "expensive" for music gear. For synths and samplers, that's the low-end..... In fact, that's even true for guitar stuff...the things I ended up keeping, liking, and using on a regular basis, all cost me quite a bit more than an echoplex goes for. (except my death metal pedal, of course....) besides, as Bret noted, there's a lot more to looping than just recording a loop and adding a few layers to it. lots of stuff does that. > >What the hell was Lexicon thinking when they discontinued the Jam Man? they were thinking, "we are losing money hand over fist on this product. Let's cut our loses and get out now!" ya know, not many companies are willing to wait four years with a warehouse full of inventory before people actually decide they want the thing..... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 18:13:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA08529; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:13:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:13:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001f01be52c4$9c55f820$2e5d32cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Stereo EDP's Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 18:06:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"wpUYO1.0.do1.JmXls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim Just received my EDP from Alto w/ft controller - now I have Stereo looping as it is my 2nd EDP. You were absolutely right when you said the EDP was designed for stereo - the stereo sound is fantastic and the BrotherSync worked flawlessly - I maintain a stereo loop of 61.2 sec for 1 hour and it remained in sync - not that I doubted it. Once again - a great product! Gerry P gerryp@air.on.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 7 23:29:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA17897; Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:29:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:29:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BE606D.D9523828@texas.net> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 21:56:40 -0600 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I got an Echoplex! References: <19990206153236.6921.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vpXg-.0.hD3.S_bls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > BTW, anyone wanna buy a used Boomerang? how much? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 01:20:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA31682; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:20:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 01:20:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BE7491.1501@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 22:22:25 -0700 From: chlorine dream Reply-To: metaphor@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: (Off Topic) For Sale: Digitech Space Station. Boss SYB-3, etc. X-URL: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/LDarchive/199811/msg00000.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-KysJ.0.OW7.I_dls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have the following items for sale: Roland FC-200 (ac adapter outlet slightly bent, works perfectly, otherwise mint) $220 Digitech Valve-FX (mint, new software installed) $285. Digitech XP-300 Space Station Pedal (mint) $135 Boss SYB-3 Bass Synthesizer Pedal (mint) $95 Boss CE-2 Chorus Pedal (near mint) $40 Boss Blues Driver Pedal (mint) $45. Yamaha DJX (mint) $240. Buyer pays shipping from Los Angeles. Please send all inquiries to metaphor@earthlink.net. Thanks, Scott. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 09:20:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA18541; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:20:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 09:20:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990208091258.007ae460@earthlink.net> X-Sender: cqlung@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 09:13:00 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Q Subject: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"nsvw31.0.984.n0lls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Could someone let me know what the below mentioned EH16 is? Although I'd love to have an EDP, I can't afford one right now. The features on the EDP are all things I'd really like to have, but any loop/sampler is better than none. Thanks... CQ At 12:55 PM 2/7/99 -0800, you wrote: > >---"Michael S. Yoder" wrote: >> Dear Loopers, >> I just can't believe the expensive, nearly-impossible-to-acquire >Oberheim >> Echoplex is the ONLY thing on the market that allows infinite >> loops/layerings. Is there anything else available.. > >First, "nearly-impossible-to-acquire", this is absurd. I have never >had any problem getting EDPs, and I have 3. If you can't find them >(at least in the USA) then you aren't looking. Call or email Gibson, >and they can tell you where they shipped EDP recently. > >Infinite loops/layerings are hardly what sets the EDP apart from the >crowd. The jamman, the boomerang, the EH16 second delay, and probably >many others allow this. > >If that is your only requirment then seek those. > >The EDP is special for more reasons that I can state here, but a few >aspects are: >1. Undo >2. Brother Sync >3. Stereo Brother Sync >4. Multiply >5. Confirgurable Quantize/no Quantize/Confirm on switch actions >6. Allows creation and storage and replay of multiple unique loops, >each of unique length. >7. 198 seconds > >Read the FAQ at Loopers Delight web page. > >I'm sure other EDP users have other favorite features, but IMO there >is no substitute. >bret >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 11:40:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA08137; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:40:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:40:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BF0DF1.18C1F952@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 08:16:49 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Vortex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Mumq5.0.Jy.Crmls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just bought a used Vortex for 120 bones. The value knob revaled itself to be malfunctioning once I got it home last night (of course) The value number flickers and wil change erratically- the unit seems to work perfectly otherwise- Anyone who has had any experience with this PLEASE let me know- I am highly doubtful if I will get my money back- Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 11:58:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA12363; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:58:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:58:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902081622.LAA27860@emh1.pa.net> X-Sender: rswitzer@mail.pa.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:25:20 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Robert Switzer Subject: Re: *Echovirus* Blindfold OneofaKind remix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"HASzN3.0.KD1.ixmls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >Would you say that most of the sonic material is Ed CHang then, and you >have just manipulated this. Yes -- most of the *sonic* material was derived from the original tape. To get the bass sound, for instance, I took a wiggly bit of Ed's guitar, dropped the pitch to about C2, constructed an attack envelope for it, loaded it into a sampler, and applied a resonant filter. Then, I used a MIDI sequence to trigger it, rendered it direct to disk, then pasted it into the piece using Cool Edit Pro. I added some sax, and a one-note guitar bit, constructed the primary groove/drum loop and wrote the bass line. >I'd love to hear the origianl along side this. >Any plans for posting it at mp3.com or elsewhere. At 30 minutes, the original is too big for mp3 distribution via either mp3.com, or my ftp site -- I will, however, send a copy of both 'BlindFold DisFunktion', and the original piece to anyone willing to send me either an SASE or CD/DAT/cassette of some original music. If anyone wants to re-remix either/both, that's cool, too -- email me privately for my address, etc. rob From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 16:29:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA20574; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:29:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 16:29:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990208201912.28551.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.74.77.59] From: "kameleyon" To: bass@magpie.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Sticknews@aol.com Subject: EVERYTHING MUST GO!!! Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 12:19:11 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"acIPs1.0.tX4.UIrls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have the following for sale: Boss octave pedal (oc-2)w/AC adapter $50 Boss bass chorus (ce-2b)w/AC adapter $50 Boss bass flanger (bf-2b)w/AC adapter $50 Boss digital delay/reverb (rv-3) $85 Boomerang sampler $275 Dunlop bass wah-wah pedal $40 Zoom bass 506 w/expression pedal $65 Dunlop volumn pedal (free with purchase...one available) Also, for Chapman Stick: Roland GK-2A MIDI pick-up with GR-30 $575 All "OBO" will be considered...actually encouraged more than just considered! Please respond via private e-mail. Thanks! ---//////-------------/////---///////--- Joshua D. Pickenpaugh Boulder, Colorado, U.S.A. Bassist, Composer, Teacher http://welcome.to/kameleyonmusic -///------///////--------------///////-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 17:45:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA32394; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:45:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 17:45:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990208091258.007ae460@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 11:07:24 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? Resent-Message-ID: <"vlrUR3.0.sb7.VQsls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 6:13 AM -0800 2/8/99, Chris Q wrote: >Could someone let me know what the below mentioned EH16 is? Although I'd >love to have an EDP, I can't afford one right now. The features on the EDP >are all things I'd really like to have, but any loop/sampler is better than >none. Thanks... CQ Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay. Long out of production, now rare and a collectors item. Even rarer to find one that still works. If you can't afford an Echoplex, you *definitely* can't afford an EH16. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 20:04:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA24266; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:04:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:04:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990208185702.007e75b0@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:57:02 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Chris Q: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.32.19990208091258.007ae460@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"eQMyu.0.DT5.TVuls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:07 AM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote: >At 6:13 AM -0800 2/8/99, Chris Q wrote: Although I'd love to have an EDP, I can't afford one right now. The features on the EDP >>are all things I'd really like to have, but any loop/sampler is better than >>none. Thanks... CQ > > Chris, I've been in the same boat, and have found the following cheap loopers by doing lots of homework over the past 3 days: 1. DOD DFX94 pedal is sometimes available, street price $100-120. I have 2, and they're not bad for live performance. Just a tiny bit noisey during fadeout. You need 3 hands to do it well if you play a stringed instrument. 4 seconds max. I just did an art gallery gig using my two with a fretless bass and two small amps, and the crowd seemed to really like hearing a textural kind of jazz that they've probably never heard before. 2. Zoom 508. 4 seconds, street price $99. No idea how it sounds, but the multi-effects Zoom pedals in the 500 series are quite noisey (which doesn't necessarily mean the 508 is.) Easy to obtain. 3. Zoom 2100. 16 seconds in "hi-fi" mode (32K sampling), or 3 separate 5-second recordings. The owners manual implies that looping is possible but it seems a little awkward (never seen one in person). Street price approx. $150 Easy to obtain. 4. Boss DD5. 2 seconds of quiet delay/looping. Very easy to use. Street price $140-150. Easy to obtain. 5. Korg AX1G and AX1B (guitar and bass multi-effects, respectively). 1.8 seconds. Street price $130. Plus, "chingos" of other effects. 6. Boomerang. Under $400 street. 2 minutes in "hi-fi" mode, plus reverse loops. Looks very easy to use. And hey, it's made in Texas!! I seem to recall seeing in their web site that David Torn has used it. Like you said, any looping device is better than none. EDP does seem to be the most sophisticated. I've been assured that one can be obtained with foot pedal board for around $600 (??) Hope this helps. Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 20:10:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA25443; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:10:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:10:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990208190024.007e3ae0@tamiu.edu> X-Sender: myoder@tamiu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:00:24 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "Michael S. Yoder" Subject: Chris Q: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"KgjmY2.0.Vj5.hYuls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I forgot to add something important: A million thanks to all of those of Loopers Delight who have helped me over the past couple days!!!!!!! Michael. > >At 11:07 AM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote: >>At 6:13 AM -0800 2/8/99, Chris Q wrote: > >Although I'd love to have an EDP, I can't afford one right now. The features on the EDP >>>are all things I'd really like to have, but any loop/sampler is better than >>>none. Thanks... CQ >> >> > >Chris, >I've been in the same boat, and have found the following cheap loopers by doing lots of homework over the past 3 days: > >Michael. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Dr. Michael S. Yoder Assistant Professor of Geography, Coordinator of Urban Studies Texas A&M International University 5201 University Blvd. Laredo, TX 78041 Tel. (956) 326-2634; FAX (956) 326-2464 Internet:myoder@tamiu.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 20:23:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA27653; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:23:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:23:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <8f37c0e1.36bf8bb1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 20:13:21 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Chris Q: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"Vwp7K1.0.rR6.Wmuls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i will vouch for the zoom 508. it is pretty quiet and very versatile. definitely the price/performance winner in its range. PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 21:51:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA07903; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:51:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:51:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:41:47 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Pafford X-Sender: todd@galen.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: Todd Pafford To: Clifford Novey cc: Loopers Subject: Re: Vortex In-Reply-To: <36BF0DF1.18C1F952@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"IKhr71.0.8f1.q4wls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Clifford Novey wrote: > I just bought a used Vortex for 120 bones. The value knob revaled itself > to be malfunctioning once I got it home last night (of course) The > value number flickers and wil change erratically- the unit seems to work > perfectly otherwise- > Anyone who has had any experience with this PLEASE let me know- I am > highly doubtful if I will get my money back- > > Clifford > When I bought my Vortex it exhibited similar problems with both the Value and Parameter knobs. I contacted Greg Hogan from Vortex through this list and he set me up with getting the Vortex returned to Lexicon for repair. The process was painless and effective. So, get a hold of Lexicon, they'll fix you right up. :) --- "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite." -- William Blake Todd Pafford galen@erols.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 22:32:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA15609; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:32:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:32:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:20:14 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Pafford X-Sender: todd@galen.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Chris Q: Re: Alternatives to Oberheim? In-Reply-To: <8f37c0e1.36bf8bb1@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"bcQEW.0.OP3.Zewls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll throw in my two cents for the Boomerang. I just bought mine a couple weeks ago and am head over heels in love with the thing. It's so easy to use I'm pretty sure my cat could figure it out if only he played an instrument. I've heard complaints in the past about sound quality and noise, but I have no complaints. Granted, it's not pristine, but this by no means lessens it's value in my opinion. For the money, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a more enjoyable looper. Brief feature list: - max of 2 minutes loop length in HiFi, 4 minutes in LoFi - infinite layering of overdubs - foot roller to control volume of loop output (effectively the mix) - playback/record in reverse So there's my two cents. Give one a try. :) --- "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite." -- William Blake Todd Pafford galen@erols.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 22:57:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA20195; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:57:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:57:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 21:48:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Make Like a Loop Machine Resent-Message-ID: <"7nabx2.0.WD3.3awls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I did something this evening which turned out to be quit fun. I've been having trouble triggering a certain synth a Doepfer MS 404 with my MIDI guitar set-up. So on my way home from work I decided to hook up my Yamaha QY-10 directly to the 404. The QY-10 is an old Yahama sequencer that I picked up in December when FingerPaint was experimenting with stripping down our set-up to save on chiropratic fees. By using the QY-10 to trigger MIDI notes in a couple of synths I was able to leave my guitar and the GR-1 at home. I was also travelling with only two loopers and one effect box. Anyhow back at home I have access to my Echoplex, two jam men, and various effects. But back to tonight. I began working with the 404 and was happy with the results. I laid down a simple low sounding loop in the plex. Then I made a short loop in Jam man one, then another short loop, and finally a third short loop. Then on the second jam man I set up set up two more longer loops to complement what was happening. Then I started to dial between the various loops on the jam men. (I've yet to get into multiple loops with my echoplex, but that's tommorrow nights lesson...) Anyhow I liked the results of changing loops while still triggering sounds via the QY-10. So far this was not new ground for me. Sounded Frippian, which I usually avoid, but tonight I went with. I decided to turn on the 8 track and just record myself letting the loops rub against one another, switching between the five options and occassionally fading loops out. The loops I created were all sparse BTW. After recording this I then of course wanted to play over it. But instead of grabbing my guitar, I recorded the next tracks with the QY-10 as my instrument and put the limit of "making myself play like a looping machine" as a guide. Actually I was set up more in repeat mode more then in loop mode. After this I did grab my guitar and put it through a twisted effect, muted the actual guitar sound and hit record again. Still instructing myself to play like a loop machine. When I played it all back tonight I liked the result. Who knows if it will hold up over time and that's really not important. It was fun and is fertile ground for me and others blessed with multi track recorders to till. Peace, Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 23:05:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA21438; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:05:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:05:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <418bc8b4.36bfb10e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:52:46 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: stick Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"q-0D-2.0.gi4.o3xls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com im just curious, is anyone selling a grand stick? or recently bought one? im going to buy one soon and i want to get a feel for the prices thanks rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 23:09:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA22121; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:09:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:09:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 22:52:28 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: chuckv@pop.p3.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: chuckv@starsend.org (Chuck van Zyl) Subject: Ma Ja Le + Jeff Pearce Live Resent-Message-ID: <"E6txk.0.3f4.n2xls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com m u s i c . . . . c o n c e r t . . . . c a l a n d a r l i s t i n g MA JA LE TO PERFORM LIVE CONCERT AT THE NEXT STAR'S END GATHERING (Philadelphia 02-08-99) Tribal Ambient duo Ma Ja Le will perform a concert of Electronic Music at The Star's End Gathering on Saturday, March 6th, 1999 in Philadelphia. Using synthesizers, guitar, outboard processing gear and an array of exotic instruments, Ma Ja Le creates an extended musical journey through rhythms, soundworlds and sonic atmospheres. Based in Milwaukee, Ma Ja Le consists of Chris Short (synths, effects, flutes and Guitartronics) and Paul Vnuk Jr. (synths, voice and percussion). Thus far they have released two full length CDs: "Dreams In The Orchards Of Saturn" and (teamed with ambient groove wizard Vir Unis and produced by Steve Roach) "Imaginarium". Pursuing the course laid down by the recent music of Steve Roach, Vidna Obmana and Robert Rich, Ma Ja Le is making significant contributions to the emerging genre of Tribal Ambient. They have carefully examined the genre and produce music with contrast, subtlety and originality. Drawing on their influencences and their own inspiration, Ma Ja Le offers clear, crafted timbres, driving pulse percussion, swirling clouds of harmonics and floating dream textures. Ma Ja Le's Gathering performance will be their first ever on the east coast of the USA and will reflect their interest in soundscapes, texture and rhythm. Opening for Ma Ja Le will be sonic innovator Jeff Pearce. Based in the Indianapolis area, Pearce is well known to the Spacemusic community for his unique approach to playing guitar. The tones Pearce produces do not betray their origin as they are processed, delayed, distorted and looped to create complex harmonies and timbres not usually associated with an ordinary electric guitar. Pearce's triumph does not lie merely in the technical but in the emotional aspect of his playing. His music is compelling and moody, and displays a talent for traversing the Space, Ambient, Experimental and New Age genres. With four full length CDs to his credit and represented on several prestigeous anthologies, Pearce "mines the terrain where Ambient, Space and Minimalism converge...". His music ranges from deep, dark, lengthy soundworlds to bright, elegant, focused compositions. Performing live infrequently, Pearce's appearence in Philadelphia at the Star's End Gathering is unique. The Star's End Gathering with Ma Ja Le and Jeff Pearce will take place from 8pm to 11pm on Saturday, March 6th, 1999 at St. Mary's Church, 3916 Locust Walk, Philadelphia, PA. Admission at the door is $15; $10 w/WXPN MemberCard and $5 w/proper student ID. Before The Gathering: WXPN MemberCard holders are welcome to attend a free Spacemusic workshop/discussion moderated by Star's End host Chuck van Zyl. van Zyl will lead a discussion pertaining to the technology behind the music, and Gathering artist Jeff Pearce will be on hand with his guitar and effects processors to demonstrate the process and craft by which he realizes his sound. The WXPN Members Only Spacemusic workshop will run from 7-7:30pm on March 6th, 1999 at St. Mary's Church. Just show your current WXPN MemberCard at the door and you'll be admitted free to the workshop. Concert Preview: In the weeks prior to the concert, the Star's End radio program will regularly feature the music of Ma Ja Le and Jeff Pearce. A live telephone interview with the artists is scheduled for the 02.28.99 broadcast. Following The Gathering: the Star's End radio program will feature a live in-studio performance by featured Gathering artist Jeff Pearce. Tune in to Star's End on 03.07.99 and hear a totally improvised, live radio concert from one of the Ambient community's most innovative guitarists. Where to find Star's End Saturday Nights/Sunday Mornings 1:00am to 6:00am on: 88.5fm WXPN Philadelphia, PA 88.1fm WXPH Harrisburg, PA 90.5fm WKHS Worton/Baltimore, MD 104.5fm Allentown, PA Gatherings are live concerts featuring musicians from the ambient, electronic and space music worlds. For more info: http://www.starsend.org x x x From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 23:17:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA23357; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:17:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:17:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990208201446.00a8f980@mail> X-Sender: dog@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:14:46 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: Re: Vortex In-Reply-To: References: <36BF0DF1.18C1F952@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ydZ6G1.0.KS5.WKxls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com you might also try opening the Vortex up and squirting some Cramolin/Deoxit or other contact cleaner in the value encoder. this fixed a similar problem for me. At 09:41 PM 2/8/99 -0500, Todd Pafford wrote: >On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Clifford Novey wrote: > >> I just bought a used Vortex for 120 bones. The value knob revaled itself >> to be malfunctioning once I got it home last night (of course) The >> value number flickers and wil change erratically- the unit seems to work >> perfectly otherwise- >> Anyone who has had any experience with this PLEASE let me know- I am >> highly doubtful if I will get my money back- > >When I bought my Vortex it exhibited similar problems with both the Value >and Parameter knobs. I contacted Greg Hogan from Vortex through this list >and he set me up with getting the Vortex returned to Lexicon for repair. >The process was painless and effective. So, get a hold of Lexicon, >they'll fix you right up. :) ___ dan mcmullen, sf, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 415.681-0712 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 8 23:39:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA26146; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:39:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:39:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36BFBBA8.2CB8F1E6@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 20:38:00 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex References: <36BF0DF1.18C1F952@earthlink.net> <3.0.5.32.19990208201446.00a8f980@mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1IIXW.0.NG6.whxls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'll give that a try- thanks- Cliff dan mcmullen wrote: > you might also try opening the Vortex up and squirting some Cramolin/Deoxit > or other contact cleaner in the value encoder. this fixed a similar > problem for me. > > At 09:41 PM 2/8/99 -0500, Todd Pafford wrote: > >On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Clifford Novey wrote: > > > >> I just bought a used Vortex for 120 bones. The value knob revaled itself > >> to be malfunctioning once I got it home last night (of course) The > >> value number flickers and wil change erratically- the unit seems to work > >> perfectly otherwise- > >> Anyone who has had any experience with this PLEASE let me know- I am > >> highly doubtful if I will get my money back- > > > >When I bought my Vortex it exhibited similar problems with both the Value > >and Parameter knobs. I contacted Greg Hogan from Vortex through this list > >and he set me up with getting the Vortex returned to Lexicon for repair. > >The process was painless and effective. So, get a hold of Lexicon, > >they'll fix you right up. :) > > ___ > dan mcmullen, sf, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention > mailto:dog@well.com 415.681-0712 > pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 00:03:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA29774; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:03:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:03:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:57:21 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Punk Jazz? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"tGVqV2.0.Sx6.q_xls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check out Outhouse, http://www.tacoma.net/~outhouse/ They're super hardcore jazz. Live they're amazingly loud, the closest thing I've heard to a punk bad in a jazz setting ever. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 00:34:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA00531; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:34:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:34:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902090512.AAA27317@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: QY 10 for loopers.... Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 00:12:10 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HS_mh3.0.9T7.JEyls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com funny to see talk of the yamaha qy10 - i just was re- acquanting with mine it's great!! if you see one used- grab it!! these are great little units that do WAY more than you may think...it's worth it just for the fact that a device the size of a videotape (i store mine in a video sleeve) - is not only an 8track sequencer, 36 sound synth module, drum machine, but can quickly be set up as a "looping" jam partner - any groove in any key over any chord, etc.. i've written music on the beach in jamaica with this - with 'phones it's amazing what you've got. The unit TOTALLY died when Yamaha brought itout - for one reason- the ridiculously small, one line screen!! Yikes...!! while i'm used to it - i'm sure the QY10 is easier to use with it's big screen.... so - all in all - my recommendations are that this piece rules for loopers because: -can be found cheap -small, great for stealth loop gigs -nice for adding drum bites or a splash of synth tone to a loop -easy 'step time'programming lets you plug in tough passages, from printed music, for analysis.... -if you only ever use it for warming up over a metronome and a fun scale - it'll pay for itself. have fun andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 02:56:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA15033; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:56:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 02:56:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: "Loopers' Delight" Subject: Service in Chicago Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 23:51:52 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be5401$0eabe780$84c1efd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"itXN32.0.XX3.zZ-ls"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just found out about this company in Chicago; I think some of us might be interested in finding out more about them. http://www.aeromix-mastering.com/ Javier Berkeley, Calif. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 13:07:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA28810; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:07:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:07:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902091746.RAA05514@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Tim Walker" To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 18:53:49 Reply-To: "Tim Walker" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: EBow Resent-Message-ID: <"lb5gN.0.Vu5.OG7ms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com With the odd exception, the comments I've read on the EBow thread so far seem to have been largely "indifferent" - as in, "well, it's OK, but probably not worth the money". Personally, I couldn't agree less... IMHO, the EBow could've been made for the looping guitarist (not to mention other instrumentalists who give it a go). Once you've got the hang of the unit, it opens up whole new sounds and effects which would be well-nigh impossible without a guitar synth; and as we all know, the more of these you have as a solo looper, the better! As you might guess, I make extensive use of the EBow in my looping improvisations, and a few of the many effects I've discovered can be heard on my forthcoming MP3.com CD. Try these for starters: - Turn up the guitar treble to about 5, stick on some chorus or flanging, and presto! a nice "synthy"-type solo sound. My track "The place of little rivers" is almost exclusively made up of layered EBow parts. - Play long sustained notes, fading them slowly in and out, and use your looper to layer lots of them so some come up as others decay - Fripp's "The Cathedral Of Tears" is an example of the kind of effect, though of course he used guitar synth. - Use a nice rich overdrive sound, and combine the EBow with a slide - David Torn's intro solo from "Gidya Hana", or at least something close. I'd give the EBow another chance, especially as it only costs about the same as an average effects pedal - not bad for a unit with so much potential. Don't be afraid to experiment and use your imagination - you'll have people saying they never knew one guitar could sound like that! (Well, it happened to me, anyway.) Time to get some more practice in :-) Tim. *******************Tim Walker - Staines, UK******************* tawalker@dircon.co.uk - www.tawalker.dircon.co.uk/ Visit Tim's NEW recordings page at MP3.com: *********************www.mp3.com/timwalker/******************* From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 22:09:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA21442; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:09:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:09:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <1edb2fdf.36c0f688@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:01:28 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Insert. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"PoB6z1.0.Fu4.tQFms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ok, so i have my echoplex ive been making some great loops(i got the thing not long ago)and ive set the insert to reverse now ive been reading up on how to actually 'insert' stuff and im seeing that the insert button does a whole lot so this question goes for the veteran loopers do you reverse the loop, and then switch the quantization to insert etc..... and are there any other things to be weary of in quantization setting thanks a ton rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 22:47:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA28073; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:47:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:47:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:43:04 -0500 From: calvert_medical Subject: Volunteers Needed To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: <000701be54a7$7b138120$d63537a6@CD> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE547D.8E3F2260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"Uoy8-2.0.jQ6.A_Fms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE547D.8E3F2260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Retention and Career Enhancement Volunteers needed to help with all phases of program development and = implementation at Calvert Medical Associates, a wholly owned small = business, based in Atlanta, Georgia. 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Volunteer services with Calvert Medical Associates is an excellent = way to=20 gain work experience while going good. This experience may also be used = for=20 internships.

If you have an interest in volunteering at Calvert Medical = Associates, please=20 call us at (770) 322-9131, or fax (770) 322-8698.=20

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE547D.8E3F2260-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 01:19:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA16066; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:19:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:19:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C12356.73EE05BA@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:12:38 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Vortex/Lexicon Pedals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XV0tT.0.Yb3.bAIms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey all- I have been playing with my new Vortex for hours and had a question or two- 1) I seem to get a bit of noise/hiss even running direct to the unit- I have mainly been using the "Deja Vu" B patch though- anyone else have this? Anyone else not have this? how is yours set up? Mine right now is as follows: Guitar to resistance mixer (splits signal)/one signal to Vortex, the other to effects board and amp- both signals end in 4 track- I get one clean Vortex and one non-Vortex signal. 2) The one I have only came with a cheap mono foot pedal- are the original stereo pedals still avail? How much? Can you use other pedals instead? I would like to be able to switch from bank A to B to use the morphing capabilities on the fly- etc. 3) I can hear certain effects running when there is no input- kind of like a flanger or phaser where you can hear it with no signal- (or maybe there IS a small signal comprised of hiss...shit, I don't know! :-p ) Anyone else get this? Thanks to all who passed on suggestions for my Value dial problem on my Vortex- they were VERY much appreciated- I tried cleaning the pot with a little bit of brake cleaner (evaporates completely) but had no success- one thing I noticed is it seems to work perfect the first few seconds the unit is on- it works but it is frustrating because it may take 20 turns to change the value 5 or 10 points. I am still hoping the person I bought it from will be cool and exchange it back- I wouldn't be worried but it sometimes pops into Value mode on its own and flickers a point or two and in some cases it creates an audible difference- Not a desireable effect! I was pleased to get a ring modulator effect- I felt just like John McLaughlin! (ahem, not) ;) Thanks all- Cliff PS- I see some of us awaiting new EDPs are getting them- I'm next, right? ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 21:50:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA02064; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:50:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:50:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002001be54d8$1dd32ac0$eec0ae98@jkudler.stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: Subject: Re: Volunteers Needed Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 04:31:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE54AE.336A4DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"qrWt92.0.kJ.O4Fms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE54AE.336A4DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where the hell did this come from? -Jesse -----Original Message----- From: calvert_medical To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:59 PM Subject: Volunteers Needed =20 =20 Retention and Career Enhancement Volunteers needed to help with all phases of program development and = implementation at Calvert Medical Associates, a wholly owned small = business, based in Atlanta, Georgia. Volunteers can range in ages from 9 = to 80. Be homemakers, artists, retirees, students and professionals. = Everyone is welcome to participate on most projects.=20 Volunteers needed with the ability to work independently to mold = their won experiences in completing projects. Many of these projects are = first time projects and volunteers must be willing to be pioneers; = flexible, self motivated, committed, open minded, resourceful and having = a sense of humor are important qualities of volunteers on these = projects. Our services have consistently high ratings for client satisfaction. = One way Calvert Medical Associates has achieved this is by listening to = our clients and acting when they have a need. That=92s where volunteers = =96 come in. As a volunteer, you=92ll a.. Provide office support=20 b.. Conduct telemarketing surveys=20 c.. Quarterly mailings, paper folding and envelope stuffing=20 d.. Word processing=20 e.. Transfer incoming calls=20 f.. Keep track and provide assistance to incoming callers=20 g.. Taking good notes is also important=20 h.. Know how to handle various and unusual events (these will be = explained in your orientation).=20 i.. Most importantly, work with Calvert Medical Associates = representative to develop improvements/changes in programs=20 j.. Computer skills are helpful if you have them, but not = required a.. Flexible time commitment, Friday-Sunday good, too. Volunteer services with Calvert Medical Associates is an excellent = way to gain work experience while going good. This experience may also = be used for internships. If you have an interest in volunteering at Calvert Medical = Associates, please call us at (770) 322-9131, or fax (770) 322-8698.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE54AE.336A4DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where the hell did this come = from?
 
-Jesse
 
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 calvert_medical <calvert_medical@cwix.com>=
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com=20 <Loopers-Delight@annihilist= .com>
Date:=20 Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:59 PM
Subject: = Volunteers=20 Needed

Retention and Career Enhancement

Volunteers needed to help with all phases = of program=20 development and implementation at Calvert Medical Associates, a = wholly owned=20 small business, based in Atlanta, Georgia. Volunteers can range in = ages from=20 9 to 80. Be homemakers, artists, retirees, students and = professionals.=20 Everyone is welcome to participate on most projects. =

Volunteers needed with the ability to work=20 independently to mold their won experiences in completing projects. = Many of=20 these projects are first time projects and volunteers must be = willing to be=20 pioneers; flexible, self motivated, committed, open minded, = resourceful and=20 having a sense of humor are important qualities of volunteers on = these=20 projects.

Our services have consistently high ratings for client = satisfaction. One=20 way Calvert Medical Associates=20 has achieved this is by listening to our = clients and=20 acting when they have a need. That’s where volunteers – = come in.=20 As a volunteer, you’ll

  • Provide office support=20
  • Conduct telemarketing surveys=20
  • Quarterly mailings, paper folding and envelope stuffing=20
  • Word processing=20
  • Transfer incoming calls=20
  • Keep track and provide assistance to incoming callers=20
  • Taking good notes is also important=20
  • Know how to handle various and unusual events (these will be = explained in your orientation).=20
  • Most importantly, work with Calvert Medical Associates=20 representative to develop improvements/changes in programs=20
  • Computer skills are helpful if you have them, but not = required
  • Flexible time commitment, Friday-Sunday good, = too.

Volunteer services with Calvert Medical Associates is an = excellent way to=20 gain work experience while going good. This experience may also be = used for=20 internships.

If you have an interest in volunteering at Calvert Medical = Associates,=20 please call us at (770) 322-9131, or fax (770) 322-8698.=20

------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE54AE.336A4DC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 9 22:30:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA05372; Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:30:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:30:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36C12356.73EE05BA@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:02:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Vortex/Lexicon Pedals Resent-Message-ID: <"Mdn3i2.0._A1.7mFms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:12 PM -0800 2/9/99, Clifford Novey wrote: >Thanks to all who passed on suggestions for my Value dial problem on my >Vortex- they were VERY much appreciated- I tried cleaning the pot with >a little bit of brake cleaner (evaporates completely) but had no >success- one thing I noticed is it seems to work perfect the first few >seconds the unit is on- it works but it is frustrating because it may >take 20 turns to change the value 5 or 10 points. I am still hoping the >person I bought it from will be cool and exchange it back- I wouldn't be >worried but it sometimes pops into Value mode on its own and flickers a >point or two and in some cases it creates an audible difference- >Not a desireable effect! before you send it back, make sure to contact Greg Hogan , customer service guy at lexicon, and ask if they can fix it for you. Greg's been real helpful to people here in the past. I met Greg in the flesh at NAMM and chatted for a while, great guy.... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 01:45:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA22530; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:45:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:45:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <72fd34ec.36c18715@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:18:13 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Volunteers Needed Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"1p_sU1.0.u25.1QIms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/10/99 9:43:30 AM, jkudler@mail.wesleyan.edu writes: << Where the hell did this come from? >> It seems that someone has learned how to spam entire mailing lists..... Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 03:48:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA05722; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 03:48:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 03:48:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902101522.AAA02701@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 3.1.1-Jr2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:22:58 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: DOEPFER ENDLESS (Re: MOOG ENDLESS) Resent-Message-ID: <"ceICt3.0.Yl.3EKms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, MOOG ENDLESS information. Our MOOG System 55 will go out till next Monday. Now DOEPFER modulars are proxy for System 55. We will streaming DOEPFER modulars music by Real Video till next Monday. Streaming URL is http://www.cavestudio.com/S+V/moog_endless.html You need a Real Player 5.0 or G2 and 28.8k or greater connection for enjoy this streaming. Regards Sunao Inami Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 12:17:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA26491; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:17:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:17:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE54D3.2CC39380.stevehan@transworld-lax.com> From: Steve Han Reply-To: "stevehan@transworld-lax.com" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: stick Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 08:47:47 -0800 Organization: Transworld Freight Systems X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hxsGP1.0.ta5.tkRms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Grand Stick costs $1,600.00 directly from Mr. Chapman himself. The 10 stringer costs $1,300.00. I believe they both have the new Piezo pick ups. I think Mr. Chapman also offers 1 free lesson with the deal. Although he himself does not offer lessons anymore, he has a slew of pupils who offer the lesson(s). He had just performed at NAMM to demonstrate the Stick and Tony Levin even showed up to watch and endorse it. -----Original Message----- From: Kriist@aol.com [SMTP:Kriist@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:53 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: stick im just curious, is anyone selling a grand stick? or recently bought one? im going to buy one soon and i want to get a feel for the prices thanks rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 14:45:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20823; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:45:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:45:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:23:07 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199902101923.NAA09124@mw4.texas.net> X-Sender: sharkey@mail.texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: james rhodes Subject: live gigs Thur & Fri in San Antonio/with webcast preview "Punk Jazz"? Resent-Message-ID: <"ARyHi.0.EG4.nsTms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello once again, thought i might mention that I'll be playing Stick live on Thursday 2/11/99 at The Reverb Lounge San Antonio 1033 Ave B. 210-223-5160 with the "Punk Jazz" combo DADDY MONKEY,,,i was told there will be at least a 4 piece horn section there that evening. i expect we'll start at 11:00-11:30 ..The experimental trio of CREVICE will also play that evening. not sure about cover?? fellow listmember James Sidlo will be playin with both bands,,,a dedicated string picker indeed...He will offer no less with his prescence at the following gig as well...see below will also be playing Taco Land Friday 2/12/99 (with THEOREM 5) 103 W. Grayson 210-223-8406 another fine Local Band ,THE SWINDELS will be playing as well. $3.00 cover I will we plugin both gigs on the radio Thurs 9:00pm CST on KSYM 90.1 FM ,as well as playing some Theorem 5 tunes while im there. this can be heard on the web at http://www.accd.edu/sac/rtf/ksym.htm thanks for checkin this out have a great day james From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 14:44:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20520; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:44:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:44:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000701be54a7$7b138120$d63537a6@CD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 11:20:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Slaves ....er Volunteers Needed Resent-Message-ID: <"mwAiJ3.0.YO4.3vTms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Slaves needed to help with all phases of program development and implementation at Looper's Delight Web site, a wholly owned, unprofitable small business, based in cyberspace. Slaves can range in ages >from 9 to 80, but prefer 18-35 with a hot, sexy body. Be homemakers, artists, retirees, students, professionals, and even loopers. Everyone is welcome to participate on most projects. Slaves needed with the ability to work independently to mold their won experiences in completing projects. Many of these projects are first time projects and volunteers must be willing to be pioneers; flexible, self motivated, committed, open minded, resourceful and having a sense of humor are important qualities of volunteers on these projects. Good spelling and grammar skills are clearly not required, but you will be empowered! That sense of humor will definitely come in handy though, as you constantly hear new age business euphimisms used to describe your menial work. Our services have consistently high ratings for client satisfaction, except for the people who can't figure out how to unsubscribe from the mailing list. One way Looper's Delight has achieved this is by listening to our clients and acting when they have a need. Or not acting when they have a need. Depends on our mood that day. Thats where volunteers come in. As a volunteer, youll -Provide office support, back rubs, etc. -Write lots of cgi and/or java scripts to do lame things at my whim -Clean my house -Play games and look at porno on the web when I'm not around -Code html in a dark room all day -Do my laundry -Transfer incoming emails, mostly to the trash -Clean up after my pets -Rip off stuff from other web sites -Know how to handle various and unusual events (this is my favorite, but what does it mean?) -Most importantly, work with Looper's Delight representative to develop improvements/changes in programs, which we may or may not do anything with. -Computer skills are helpful if you have them, but not required if are 18-35 with a hot, sexy body inflexible time commitment, you'll be locked up here for a while. Slave services with Looper's Delight is a good way to gain work experience while going good. However, it's an excellent way to gain experience while going bad, or a great historical lesson in the lives and times of medieval serfs. This experience may also be used for internships. ;-) ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 15:45:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA32469; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:45:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:45:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <011501be5532$b4efe920$d36703cf@rjiredff> From: "Jonathan Brainin" To: Subject: Re: stick Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:19:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"L8MEb2.0.et6.phUms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Actually the Stick Enterprises website lists the price of the Grand Stick as $1905 and the 10 string Stick as $1605. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Han To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 12:25 PM Subject: RE: stick >Grand Stick costs $1,600.00 directly from Mr. Chapman >himself. The 10 stringer costs $1,300.00. >Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:53 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: stick >> >>im just curious, >>is anyone selling a grand stick? >>or recently bought one? >>im going to buy one soon and i want to get a feel for the prices >> >>thanks >> >>rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 16:57:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA13845; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:57:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:57:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:33:00 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Vortex/Lexicon Pedals Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"xWPoN.0.fV2.3pVms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the footswitch that came with my jamman stinks. better to use 2 decent footswitches and y'ed to a stereo y cord. good luck. PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 17:07:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA15584; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:07:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:07:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <011c01be4fd5$bcdbc3a0$6d32ba8c@kdanger> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:50:11 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Gear FS Resent-Message-ID: <"LDhkj3.0.uG3.11Wms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Stuff may be relevant to loopers, so here's your shot (Harmony Central is next): All near-perfect to mint condition: Lexicon MPX 100, with box and manual, $180 Lexicon Vortex, with box and manual, $220 another Lexicon Vortex, not original box, photocopied manual, $210 Lexicon MRC MIDI controller-essential for LXP-1s and LXP-5s, Reflex, etc. I believe it's the latest software version. No manual, $120 Buyer pays FedEx COD shipping ------------------------------- Mackie 1202-VLZ Lots of these listed, so I'm pricing it stupidly low: mint with box and manual, $225 Buyer pays FedEx COD shipping and it's a heavy little bugger Also have a Re 'an 48-point single rackspace patchbay, selectable normalled/non-normalled/half-normalled, nearly new, $85 shipping included ------------------------------- Electro-Harmonix Q-Tron envelope controlled filter, mint in wooden box, $125 Boss pedals, mint in box: MT-2 Metal Zone, everyone asks this price but this one is really perfect, $60 PS-3 Pitch Shifter/Delay $90 SYB-3 "Bass Synthesizer"-probably the most far-out Boss pedal, wild triggered synthy sounds and filter effects, $85 Buyer pays FedEx COD shipping From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 18:08:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA27048; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:08:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:08:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Slam630@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 17:25:29 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Gear FS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"xqa5w3.0.Rd5._nWms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 99-02-10 17:03:03 EST, you write: << SYB-3 "Bass Synthesizer"-probably the most far-out Boss pedal, wild triggered synthy sounds and filter effects, $85 >> Is this still available? Thanks, David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 19:46:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA15747; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:46:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:46:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301be5556$25762240$5123dacf@primenet.com.primenet.com> Reply-To: "Stephen Goodman@Work" From: "Stephen Goodman@Work" To: Subject: Gear Inherited... Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:33:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"iL_tn2.0.YR3.0QYms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A good friend of mine has dropped a gem (I think!) on me, a Morley PowerWah/Volume Pedal. This is the kind that one has to plug into the wall, imagine that! Anyone else have one of these babies? Stephen Goodman EarthLight Productions http://www.earthlight.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 20:37:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA23930; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:37:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:37:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:20:26 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: "Stephen Goodman@Work" cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Gear Inherited... In-Reply-To: <002301be5556$25762240$5123dacf@primenet.com.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"5hkEf3.0.tO5.C6Zms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've got one of these with distortion, but it stopped working a while ago. I probably need to clean it out or something... It's a fun pedal. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Stephen Goodman@Work wrote: > A good friend of mine has dropped a gem (I think!) on me, a Morley > PowerWah/Volume Pedal. This is the kind that one has to plug into the wall, > imagine that! Anyone else have one of these babies? > > Stephen Goodman > EarthLight Productions > http://www.earthlight.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 21:21:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA29918; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:21:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:21:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C23C22.7C3C@voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:10:42 -0500 From: legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen Goodman@Work" CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Gear Inherited... References: <002301be5556$25762240$5123dacf@primenet.com.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"03cUb2.0.V_6.roZms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > A good friend of mine has dropped a gem (I think!) on me, a Morley > PowerWah/Volume Pedal. This is the kind that one has to plug into the wall, > imagine that! Anyone else have one of these babies? I have one that I bought about ten years ago and use a lot on bass. I nicknamed it the "Toaster" because of it's size and big chrome design. I don't think they are vintage prices or anything but they are wonderful boxes and sound *very* rough and rock and roll. Noisy as hell too but in a good way (IMO at least) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 21:40:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA00340; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:40:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 21:40:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:28:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990210203012.007eb5b0@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:30:12 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Re: Vortex/Lexicon Pedals In-Reply-To: References: <36C12356.73EE05BA@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"P62wc2.0.Il7.R5ams"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A few months ago I was having problems with my Jam-Man randomly resetting itself. I remembered the problems that I used to have with the LXP-1 and LXP-5 resetting themselves. Back then the problem was the rotary switches that Lexicon used. Guess what! It's the same switch in the Jam-Man and the Vortex! At 12:02 AM 2/10/99 -0800, you wrote: >At 10:12 PM -0800 2/9/99, Clifford Novey wrote: > >>Thanks to all who passed on suggestions for my Value dial problem on my >>Vortex- they were VERY much appreciated- I tried cleaning the pot with >>a little bit of brake cleaner (evaporates completely) but had no >>success- one thing I noticed is it seems to work perfect the first few >>seconds the unit is on- it works but it is frustrating because it may >>take 20 turns to change the value 5 or 10 points. I am still hoping the >>person I bought it from will be cool and exchange it back- I wouldn't be >>worried but it sometimes pops into Value mode on its own and flickers a >>point or two and in some cases it creates an audible difference- >>Not a desireable effect! > >before you send it back, make sure to contact Greg Hogan >, customer service guy at lexicon, and ask if they can >fix it for you. Greg's been real helpful to people here in the past. I met >Greg in the flesh at NAMM and chatted for a while, great guy.... > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > > ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 22:08:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA04789; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:08:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:08:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C2465C.8D216DB6@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 18:54:21 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Vortex Pedal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"c1qVa1.0.Uh.ASams"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok, I bought a stereo male 1/4" to 2 mono rca- then got 2- rca to mono 1/4" adapters and hooked up two mono pedals pedals but nothing happened- bummer! Any ideas?? Everyone has been very kind in the help dep't thus far- much thanks! Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 10 22:53:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA11622; Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:53:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:53:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Slaves ....er Volunteers Needed Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:35:11 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01be556f$877560a0$1eceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"cS4tx1.0.bR2.Z5bms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com LOL!!!! Great sense of humour, Kim. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@annihilist.com] Sent: Wednesday 10 February 1999 11:21 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Slaves ....er Volunteers Needed Slaves needed to help with all phases of program development and implementation at Looper's Delight Web site, a wholly owned, unprofitable small business, based in cyberspace. Slaves can range in ages >from 9 to 80, but prefer 18-35 with a hot, sexy body. Be homemakers, artists, retirees, students, professionals, and even loopers. Everyone is welcome to participate on most projects... <> ;-) ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 00:31:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA25576; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:31:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:31:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902110451.NAA09490@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 3.1.1-Jr2 In-Reply-To: <199902101522.AAA02701@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:52:05 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: LD vol.2 CD has arrived Resent-Message-ID: <"Y2BAA1.0.Y55.lBcms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Finally, I got LD vol.2 CD today!! Thank you Matt!! I love the CD,it very cool music and design. I will encode the msuic to Real Audio and put it my server in this month. Regards Sunao Inami *Lopper's Delight J live report web http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/ Work E-mail webmaster@cavestudio.com URL"CAVE Studio" http://www.cavestudio.com tel&fax +81 794 89 5025 Hyogo,Japan Home E-mail cave@osk.3web.ne.jp tel&fax +81 794 89 5015 Hyogo,Japan snail mail address 316 Ohshima Kuchiyokawa Miki City Hyogo Japan 6730755 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 01:45:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA01549; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:45:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:45:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990211002556.007cc210@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:25:56 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Booking? In-Reply-To: <199901251604.LAA11559@emh1.pa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"WtVw03.0.Tx7.Padms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... I'm going to be doing a solo guitar performance at a friend's art thesis presentation in Oxford, MS on April 1. I was curious if any of you on the list knew of any venues that booked experimental/improv music near that area. Nothing is too small--even a person's living room will do (provided they normally put on shows and the like...).Since the thesis show is on a Thursday, I'll be able to book performances on Friday and Saturday. Any help that anyone can offer will be most appreciated. Perhaps I'll be able to return the favor for you. Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 01:44:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA01276; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:44:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 01:44:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990211062540.29606.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [202.61.238.3] From: "Evil Paul" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Introduction and 'Instant music' software Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 22:25:39 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"SLTMx.0.Bx7.Madms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Loopers, I live in Perth, Western Australia and create loop based music at home on my PC. At the moment I'm using the freeware version of DDClip which gives four stereo tracks of ausio and allows me to sequence WAV files from my hard drive and it mixes and plays them back in real time. I was reading Computer Music magazine the other day and it had a small feature on 'instant music' CD-ROM's. You now the type - Dance Music e-jay software. A CD-ROM with a with a custom interface thousand or so dance music samples that lets you put all the loops together and make a dance track. If you've never tried one - give it a go as they are a lot of fun. I tried out a program called Hip Hop eJay and found that it was quite similar to the way I am making music with DDClip. Most of the loops for HHejay were ten seconds long exacly. Others were 5 seconds so you could for example have a ten second bassline loop and then have a complementary 5 seconf loop on another track come in on the start or the second half of the loop. Anyway, my question is, how would I go about creating a set of loops like that. Would I have to create separate libraries of basslines and beats according to BPM? How would I create loops of different BPM in loops that are exactly ten seconds anyway? Thanks, Pixiepuck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 02:18:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA06977; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:18:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:18:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <002301be5556$25762240$5123dacf@primenet.com.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 00:00:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Gear Inherited... Resent-Message-ID: <"QsemE1.0.5K1.X5ems"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I've got one of these with distortion, but it stopped working a while ago. >I probably need to clean it out or something... It's a fun pedal. > > Kevin > > > >Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com >Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ > It's probably just the lightbulb. They're cheap and easy to replace. Any hardware store should have 'em. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 02:43:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA09877; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:43:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:43:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Introduction and 'Instant music' software Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:21:45 -0800 Message-ID: <000101be558f$2e2f7920$b7c7efd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19990211062540.29606.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"W005p1.0.-w1.4Pems"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You gotta get yourself a software program called ACID, dude. It's... acid! You'll love it. They have a cheaper introductory version without the bells, but it's got the whistles. I've got the one with both the bells and the whistles. Acid will allow you to elongate or shorten loops so they fit either the key or the BPMs. Try the demo at least, but try ACID, dude. -----Original Message----- From: Evil Paul [mailto:pixiepuck@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday 10 February 1999 10:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Introduction and 'Instant music' software Hi Loopers, I live in Perth, Western Australia and create loop based music at home on my PC. At the moment I'm using the freeware version of DDClip which gives four stereo tracks of ausio and allows me to sequence WAV files from my hard drive and it mixes and plays them back in real time. I was reading Computer Music magazine the other day and it had a small feature on 'instant music' CD-ROM's. You now the type - Dance Music e-jay software. A CD-ROM with a with a custom interface thousand or so dance music samples that lets you put all the loops together and make a dance track. If you've never tried one - give it a go as they are a lot of fun. I tried out a program called Hip Hop eJay and found that it was quite similar to the way I am making music with DDClip. Most of the loops for HHejay were ten seconds long exacly. Others were 5 seconds so you could for example have a ten second bassline loop and then have a complementary 5 seconf loop on another track come in on the start or the second half of the loop. Anyway, my question is, how would I go about creating a set of loops like that. Would I have to create separate libraries of basslines and beats according to BPM? How would I create loops of different BPM in loops that are exactly ten seconds anyway? Thanks, Pixiepuck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 02:58:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA11623; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:58:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 02:58:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C28CB3.7577@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:54:27 -0800 From: Andre LaFosse Reply-To: altruist@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Slaves ....er Volunteers Needed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Bmmqu2.0.TK2.Acems"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Damn, Kim, that was the funniest thing I've read in ages. I can definitely live with a bit of spam if it helps inspire that sort of monologue... --A From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 07:03:56 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA05012; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:03:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:03:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990211114512.006ce65c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:45:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Introduction and 'Instant music' software Resent-Message-ID: <"WHtNM3.0.aZ.xFims"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi try Acid from SOnic Foundry. It allows you to automatically allign loops with different BPMs. But not only... what's this DDClip? ciao leo At 22.25 10/02/99 PST, you wrote: >Hi Loopers, > >I live in Perth, Western Australia and create loop based music at home >on my PC. At the moment I'm using the freeware version of DDClip which >gives four stereo tracks of ausio and allows me to sequence WAV files >from my hard drive and it mixes and plays them back in real time. > >I was reading Computer Music magazine the other day and it had a small >feature on 'instant music' CD-ROM's. You now the type - Dance Music >e-jay software. A CD-ROM with a with a custom interface thousand or so >dance music samples that lets you put all the loops together and make a >dance track. If you've never tried one - give it a go as they are a lot >of fun. > >I tried out a program called Hip Hop eJay and found that it was quite >similar to the way I am making music with DDClip. Most of the loops for >HHejay were ten seconds long exacly. Others were 5 seconds so you could >for example have a ten second bassline loop and then have a >complementary 5 seconf loop on another track come in on the start or the >second half of the loop. Anyway, my question is, how would I go about >creating a set of loops like that. Would I have to create separate >libraries of basslines and beats according to BPM? How would I create >loops of different BPM in loops that are exactly ten seconds anyway? > >Thanks, >Pixiepuck > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 07:43:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA11813; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:43:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:43:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C2CBC4.157FB3C@columbia.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:23:39 -0500 From: Morgan Lang Reply-To: mhl21@columbia.edu X-Sender: "Morgan Lang" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06C-NECCK (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Morley PDW References: <199902110703.CAA04070@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Q2ZsQ2.0.mG2.vlims"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A good friend of mine has dropped a gem (I think!) on me, a Morley PowerWah/Volume Pedal. This is the kind that one has to plug into the wall, imagine that! Anyone else have one of these babies? This is the PDW model? Yes, I have one of these & love it in all its noisy obnoxiousness. Plus it's the only combo wah/vol/distort pedal I've seen. There are probably others. I like this thing too much, probably, as I've felt compelled to put even drumkits and voices through it. The distort-o-swoop sound of the drums is noisy but fun. Did I mention that this pedal is noisy? It's noisy. XLRs for everyone, I say. --MHL. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 09:07:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA24464; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:07:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:07:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <36C2E02A.78B3@mdbs.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:50:34 -0500 From: "Dennis W. Leas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Gear FS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"OiJRK.0.6H5.Q0kms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David Myers wrote: > > Lexicon Vortex, with box and manual, $220 > > Buyer pays FedEx COD shipping Well, I've waited long enough for one of these. I'm interested! (Read that as "I WANT THIS.") Let's talk! Is it still available? What's your estimate on FedEx COD shipping? I'm located in Lafayette, Indiana (it's about 60 miles from Indianapolis). - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 10:06:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA31780; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:06:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:06:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:47:17 -0500 (EST) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199902111447.JAA18574@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Introduction and 'Instant music' software Resent-Message-ID: <"91i9N.0.vJ7.Kwkms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Evil Paul "Pixiepuck" said: > I live in Perth, Western Australia and create loop based music at home > on my PC. At the moment I'm using the freeware version of DDClip which > gives four stereo tracks of ausio and allows me to sequence WAV files ^^^^^ Is that audio made by an Aussie? :-) Bill BillFox@lucent.com http://wdiyfm.org ============================================================================== Host of Emusic, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== Get all digital synths. Give me your Xpanders. Trust Kate Bush and everyone who even remotely looks like her. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 11:49:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA13023; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:49:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C3070E.98E61A77@uswest.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:36:30 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex/Lexicon Pedals References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cs4ND2.0.4t2.1Xmms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My JamMan pedal sucks as well... But I find ALOT of footpedals to be of "bare-bones" quality and fairly fragile. What do you mean by "decent footswitches" (brand and model), and how much $$ are we talkin' about? Regards, Jim Lanpheer PJBMHB@aol.com wrote: > the footswitch that came with my jamman stinks. better to use 2 decent > footswitches and y'ed to a stereo y cord. good luck. PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 12:29:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA19231; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:29:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:29:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: <718e3e74.36c30d1e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:02:22 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EBow Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"8Xhz-1.0.Dx3.Lwmms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A final note on this thing to tie off the thread altogether since it's not particularly loop related. There was a fairly short but enthusiastic article on the Ebow in Electronic Musician by Matt Blackett back in the February 1998 issue. As that was a year ago now so it may be a little hard to dig up, but it might be worthwhile to some interested. Lenny Walker, Michael Manring, and yours truly were among Matt's interviewees. Now back to looping... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 13:04:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA25586; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:04:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:04:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE55A3.304DFC40.stevehan@transworld-lax.com> From: Steve Han Reply-To: "stevehan@transworld-lax.com" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: stick Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:41:47 -0800 Organization: Transworld Freight Systems X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Mvgrl.0.Fj5.rYnms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jonathan, Perhaps you are right. $1,300.00 & $1,600.00 were probably special prices for the NAMM show only. I wonder why Stanley Jordan hasn't pick one up... Hmmmm think of the possibilities.... -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Brainin [SMTP:jbrainin@planet.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 12:20 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: stick Actually the Stick Enterprises website lists the price of the Grand Stick as $1905 and the 10 string Stick as $1605. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Han To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 12:25 PM Subject: RE: stick >Grand Stick costs $1,600.00 directly from Mr. Chapman >himself. The 10 stringer costs $1,300.00. >Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 7:53 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: stick >> >>im just curious, >>is anyone selling a grand stick? >>or recently bought one? >>im going to buy one soon and i want to get a feel for the prices >> >>thanks >> >>rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 13:58:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA03070; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:58:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:58:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902111847.NAA12152@mail1.javanet.com> From: "Kate & Dan Richardson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:46:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Morley PDW Reply-to: dlr@javanet.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <36C2CBC4.157FB3C@columbia.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Resent-Message-ID: <"kk_NO3.0.nS._Qoms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > the only combo wah/vol/distort pedal I've seen. > There are probably others. I have a Foxx pedal from back in the day. It's a volume, a wah with five selectable tones, a distortion and an octave doubler. To top it off, it's fuzzy and it's red. Doesn't get much better'n that. I like my old AC powered Morley stuff too. Dan Kate and Dan Richardson Northampton, MA mailto:dlr@javanet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 14:13:12 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA06081; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:13:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:13:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:42:36 EST To: stevehan@transworld-lax.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: stick Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"9zGRi3.0.OV.pRoms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/11/99 12:00:13 PM, stevehan@transworld-lax.com writes: >Perhaps you are right. $1,300.00 & $1,600.00 were >probably special prices for the NAMM show only. >I wonder why Stanley Jordan hasn't pick one up... >Hmmmm think of the possibilities.... Wow, they have gotten expensive. Maybe you should consider a used one? I owned a polycarbonate one back in the mid 80's, but eventually sold it (to that Tracktor Topaz guy) and switched to guitar. If Stanley Jordan hasn't picked one up by now, it ain't likely, i have read in several interview that he knows they exist, but it seems he doesn't want to climb the learning curve of a new instrument..... Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 15:12:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA16661; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:12:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:12:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BE55A3.304DFC40.stevehan@transworld-lax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:17:29 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: stick Resent-Message-ID: <"n4a3H.0.XO3.cOpms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:41 AM -0800 2/11/99, Steve Han wrote: >Jonathan, > >Perhaps you are right. $1,300.00 & $1,600.00 were >probably special prices for the NAMM show only. >I wonder why Stanley Jordan hasn't pick one up... >Hmmmm think of the possibilities.... hmmm, ok. I'll think about it. ahhhhhhhrhhhrhhrgggghhh!!!! nooo! stop stop stop ok, i'm not going to think about it again. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 15:15:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA17100; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:15:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:15:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902111909.OAA13421@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Gear FS Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:08:42 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"9pkq9.0.Hl3.aWpms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey interested in the Boss bass synth... i'm there if you still have it- you cansend me a phn num and times to call, i'm in NJ. thanx.will check for a reply later on thurs. andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 15:13:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA16865; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:13:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:13:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902111912.OAA16246@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Oops Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:11:38 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"i3SiO3.0.Bl3.aWpms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oops let me engage in the paradox of creating more cyber junk to apologize for that last gear-commerce-post-in-error (GCPIE). andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 15:55:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24394; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:55:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:55:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:33:01 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Gear Inherited... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"DShzD1.0.-E5.o-pms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Nope, it's stranger than that. When I kick in the distortion on the pedal, the output drops like 20 dB. It's also gotten extremely noisy. I don't think that they make this config any more. It's really cool though. It works as a volume pedal, but you can kick it into a wah. You can also kick in distortion, so you can have way + distorion or volume + distortion or just wah or just volume. very cool. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Edwin Hurwitz wrote: > It's probably just the lightbulb. They're cheap and easy to replace. Any > hardware store should have 'em. > > Edwin > > Edwin Hurwitz > Boulder CO > http://www.indra.com/~edwin > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 17:50:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA11151; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:50:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:50:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C35CC0.E057128F@stic.net> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:42:08 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: New Release!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"cN0IJ.0.NJ2.0nrms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Crevice's, "Think of Pleasant Things" cd. Available from: www.unclebuzz.com. Sound samples are on my web site: www.stic.net/users/jameshsidlo. Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 18:08:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA14510; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:08:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:08:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002301be5610$66dede60$d80294ca@kaer-s> From: "Mentari & Suryo" To: Subject: Re: Introduction and 'Instant music' software Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 05:46:05 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"mMrDx3.0.0q2.Kyrms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Evil Paul To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: 11 Februari 1999 13:23 Subject: Introduction and 'Instant music' software >Hi Loopers, > >I live in Perth, Western Australia and create loop based music at home >on my PC. At the moment I'm using the freeware version of DDClip which >gives four stereo tracks of ausio and allows me to sequence WAV files >from my hard drive and it mixes and plays them back in real time. > >I was reading Computer Music magazine the other day and it had a small >feature on 'instant music' CD-ROM's. You now the type - Dance Music >e-jay software. A CD-ROM with a with a custom interface thousand or so >dance music samples that lets you put all the loops together and make a >dance track. If you've never tried one - give it a go as they are a lot >of fun. > >I tried out a program called Hip Hop eJay and found that it was quite >similar to the way I am making music with DDClip. Most of the loops for >HHejay were ten seconds long exacly. Others were 5 seconds so you could >for example have a ten second bassline loop and then have a >complementary 5 seconf loop on another track come in on the start or the >second half of the loop. Anyway, my question is, how would I go about >creating a set of loops like that. Would I have to create separate >libraries of basslines and beats according to BPM? How would I create >loops of different BPM in loops that are exactly ten seconds anyway? > >Thanks, >Pixiepuck > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > Have U try MPTRACKER or FASTTRACKER MALARI From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 18:44:16 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA20228; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:44:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:44:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 16:26:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Gear Inherited... Resent-Message-ID: <"zrrTs1.0.oY4.8asms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Nope, it's stranger than that. When I kick in the distortion on the >pedal, the output drops like 20 dB. It's also gotten extremely noisy. I >don't think that they make this config any more. It's really cool though. >It works as a volume pedal, but you can kick it into a wah. You can also >kick in distortion, so you can have way + distorion or volume + distortion >or just wah or just volume. very cool. > > Kevin > > Well, there might be schematics on the web to help you out. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 18:51:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA21462; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:51:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:51:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902112337.PAA05367@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: stick To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 15:37:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Kim Flint" at Feb 11, 99 11:17:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HM4yv.0.vs4.Mhsms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > At 9:41 AM -0800 2/11/99, Steve Han wrote: > >Jonathan, > > > >Perhaps you are right. $1,300.00 & $1,600.00 were > >probably special prices for the NAMM show only. > >I wonder why Stanley Jordan hasn't pick one up... > >Hmmmm think of the possibilities.... > > hmmm, ok. I'll think about it. > > > ahhhhhhhrhhhrhhrgggghhh!!!! nooo! stop stop stop > > > ok, i'm not going to think about it again. > > kim Besides, the Jordan thing has been beaten to death on the Stick list. What it amounts to is that he basically wants to play guitar, not Stick. They are two DIFFERENT instruments. Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 19:54:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA01261; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990211194659.007a0a30@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:46:59 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Gear Inherited... In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"GFVGf1.0.pp7.Eftms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Nope, it's stranger than that. When I kick in the distortion on the >pedal, the output drops like 20 dB. It's also gotten extremely noisy. Sounds like it could be a component in the distortion circuit has failed or is failing, maybe a leaky transistor... For some amusingly polarized reviews of this and other Morleys, check out ("Totally awesome and here's why..." versus "This %$#@ing pedal sucks, let me count the ways...", delegates from both extremes offer their opinions. This may or may not help; I haven't ever called the guy (or gal?, the name is Tracy) but Then there's for some useful effects info, where you might have some luck posting your situation... Have you tried Morley's site ? Although they may have forgotten they ever made this one... the animated GIF of the foot operating one of their products is alone worth the click. I used to have some boots like that! I wore them while using an old Foxx wah that (really) was wired backwards, so I guess that made it an ahwahw pedal... (sorry... but at least I didn't comment on the ausio clips, although I did wonder if tape loops go the other way round south of the equater...) Hope SOMETHING here helps... Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 22:51:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA31458; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:51:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:51:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <2c3ba249.36c3a020@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:29:36 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: stick Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"zRebT1.0.Z77.u6wms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/11/99 3:08:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, kflint@annihilist.com writes: > At 9:41 AM -0800 2/11/99, Steve Han wrote: > >Jonathan, > > > >Perhaps you are right. $1,300.00 & $1,600.00 were > >probably special prices for the NAMM show only. > >I wonder why Stanley Jordan hasn't pick one up... > >Hmmmm think of the possibilities.... > i think i saw/read somehwere that he was playing a warr guitar(or somthing similar) rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 11 23:48:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA06301; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:48:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:48:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199902120438.UAA06653@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: stick To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:38:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2c3ba249.36c3a020@aol.com> from "Kriist@aol.com" at Feb 11, 99 10:29:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Td4Ay3.0.wL1.O5xms"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > >I wonder why Stanley Jordan hasn't pick one up... > > >Hmmmm think of the possibilities.... > > > i think i saw/read somehwere that he was playing a warr guitar(or somthing > similar) > > rodrigo I seriously doubt it. The Warr guitar is not a guitar either. Maybe you're thinking of the StarrLabs Ztar. It too is not a guitar, but it is configured like a guitar, much more so than a Warr guitar or a Stick. It's a MIDI controller. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 08:59:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA30908; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:59:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:59:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902121356.IAA10011@ulster.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:55 -0500 Subject: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! From: "jmw/cmu" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vPG6Q3.0.iI7.y73ns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Check it out....it's the TB303 of 1999! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=65093304 things are getting out of hand with the prices... jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 11:23:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA22385; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:23:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:23:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:05:12 -0500 (EST) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199902121605.LAA20161@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"v_TP32.0.Zh4.M95ns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #101 February 11, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued the month-long focus on early synth master, Larry Fast and his Synergy releases. For background information, please point your web browser to the WDIY web site or visit the... Synergy web site: http://www.eclipse.net/~synergy See also the NEARFest site: http://ghostland.com/nearfest The feature CD at midnight was "Games" on Third Contact. Upcoming events announced: Star's End Gathering XVI, Arttek at Second Avenue, Synthetic Pleasures, and NEARfest. I played the music of Ma Ja Le and Jeff Pearce to promote their upcoming appearances at SEG XVI. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Ma Ja Le & Vir Unis Imaginarium Imaginarium (Mirage) S.O.C. 7 Alone Mission: Critical Steve Roach Towards the Dream Dreaming...Now,Then(CelestialHarmonies) David Tollefson Palomar New Eyes on the Universe (Hypnos) VA [Fanger & Kersten] Intrip GoldTri: Volume One (Stonker) Don Slepian Glimmerings Computer Breakdown (I.M.Music) VidnaObmana(w/J.Pearce) This Splendid Place Crossing the Trail (Projekt) 12:00 am Synergy (Larry Fast) Delta Two Games (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Delta Four Games (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Delta One Games (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Delta 3/A - 3/F Games (Third Contact) Under the Dome Hell The Demon Haunted World (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on that synergistic composer, Larry Fast and his Synergy (R) releases. The feature CD at midnight will be "Audion" on Third Contact. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 12:41:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA03071; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:41:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:41:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRZxejqmS3XZtobVGtDZaIfW+QC1AIVAMtOZgarmfuUNbGKy2/0B7Kxq2gh From: Ambientronic@webtv.net (Scott Harrington) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:21:54 -0500 (EST) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Message-ID: <13735-36C46332-2413@mailtod-272.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "jmw/cmu" 's message of Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:55 -0500 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <"CDwcx3.0.B6.7H6ns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com $500?? Thats a little crazy in my opinion. After all, its just a PEDAL(albeit a great one but come on). I've seen people asking $450 for one which also seems high but I don't know what it originally went for. It seems that to be a looper means to be in a higher tax bracket, Oh well. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 13:05:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA10349; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:05:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:05:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <13735-36C46332-2413@mailtod-272.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: "jmw/cmu" 's message of Fri, 12 Feb 1999 08:48:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:59:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Resent-Message-ID: <"oK6y.0.1I2.ln6ns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >$500?? Thats a little crazy in my opinion. After all, its just a >PEDAL(albeit a great one but come on). I don't know if you have actually seen one, but it's a rack mount 1 space unit and not a pedal. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 16:52:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA16341; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:52:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:52:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: , Subject: RE: RE: stick Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:42:53 -0800 Message-ID: <001401be56d0$a4d8f1e0$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"ogcKQ2.0.3j3.V4Ans"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Maybe you should consider a used > one? I owned > a polycarbonate one back in the mid 80's, but eventually sold it (to that > Tracktor Topaz guy) and switched to guitar. If Stanley Jordan > hasn't picked > one up by now, it ain't likely, i have read in several interview > that he knows > they exist, but it seems he doesn't want to climb the learning > curve of a new > instrument..... > Did it have a midi pickup? What was the serial number? I have black poly carb #2408, from Traktor's collection. bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 16:57:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA17162; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:57:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:57:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:47:08 -0800 Message-ID: <001501be56d1$3d4c0b60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <13735-36C46332-2413@mailtod-272.iap.bryant.webtv.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"Q3kla.0.1u3.P8Ans"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > $500?? Thats a little crazy in my opinion. After all, its just a > PEDAL(albeit a great one but come on). I've seen people asking $450 > for one which also seems high but I don't know what it originally went > for. It seems that to be a looper means to be in a higher tax bracket, > Oh well. > > I sold mine for $450 within 30 minutes of putting it on harmony-central. Since I bought it for $125, I figured that that was a ridiculous amount to ask for it, but would ask anyway and put the money to buy an echoplex, if, by some strange happening, someone was willing to spend that much. If I had only known how popular they were - I would have planned to put the money to by an Eventide :> So, how come Jam-mans sell for used for almost the full price of an EDP? Was I a fool to lose it? bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 17:11:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA19918; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:11:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:11:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <66ec2197.36c4a411@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:58:41 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: RE: stick Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"EcF2f.0.mZ4.qMAns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/12/99 3:47:58 PM, jonathan@full-moon.com writes: >I owned a polycarbonate one back in the mid 80's, but eventually sold it >(to that Tracktor Topaz guy) and switched to guitar. > > >Did it have a midi pickup? What was the serial number? I have black poly >carb #2408, from Traktor's collection. I bought it in 1985, no MIDI pick-up, and it was #2040 if I remember correctly. I remember spending a lot of time strumming it (in addition to the touch technique), so I decided to get a guitar instead. Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 17:17:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA20791; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:17:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:17:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <66ec2198.36c4a4b8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:01:28 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"KH2K31.0.3q4.GRAns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/12/99 3:53:10 PM, jonathan@full-moon.com writes: >So, how come Jam-mans sell for used for almost the full price of an EDP? >Was I a fool to lose it? Great question, especially since if you don't go for a EDP, you could get a Lexicon G2 (20 secs looping-they are even calling it the "jamman" feature!) or a 'Rang..... Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 18:39:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA00223; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:39:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:39:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: RE: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:32:34 -0800 Message-ID: <001d01be56df$f7d32be0$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <66ec2198.36c4a4b8@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"N_-3_3.0.2y7.GhBns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Marzzz@aol.com [mailto:Marzzz@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, February 12, 1999 2:01 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: RE: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! > > > > In a message dated 2/12/99 3:53:10 PM, jonathan@full-moon.com writes: > > >So, how come Jam-mans sell for used for almost the full price of an EDP? > >Was I a fool to lose it? > > Great question, especially since if you don't go for a EDP, you > could get a > Lexicon G2 (20 secs looping-they are even calling it the "jamman" > feature!) or > a 'Rang..... > I don't like the sound quality of the 'rang at all. In fact, I found the jamman made the signal somewhat dull to my ears - just a tad, and nothing I would worry about in a live setting. However, I always had to run the signal into a BBE sonic maximizer to cover for it - when the un-jamman'd signal did not need it. Some people mentioned that the Echoplex doesn't sound as good as the jam-man. It would be nice to be able to try one so I cna decide to wait for the next 'big thing' or buy one now. Anyone know where I could try one in the San Francisco Bay Area? bIz > > Marshall > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 19:07:36 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA04843; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:07:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:07:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:59:29 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001d01be56df$f7d32be0$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> References: <66ec2198.36c4a4b8@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: RE: RE: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Resent-Message-ID: <"OKg8n2.0.f41.u5Cns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I don't like the sound quality of the 'rang at all. In fact, I found the >jamman made the signal somewhat dull to my ears - just a tad, and nothing I >would worry about in a live setting. However, I always had to run the signal >into a BBE sonic maximizer to cover for it - when the un-jamman'd signal did >not need it. > >Some people mentioned that the Echoplex doesn't sound as good as the >jam-man. It would be nice to be able to try one so I cna decide to wait for >the next 'big thing' or buy one now. Anyone know where I could try one in >the San Francisco Bay Area? > Try Bananas at Large in San Rafael. Not exactly downtown SF though... Personally, I think the EDP has better sound quality than the Jam Man. I notice a slight high-freq rolloff on the Jam man, but can not tell a difference on the EDP from the direct signal, if I have my levels set right. I thought of selling my Jam man recently too. I use the EDP for looping and am just using the Jam Man as a delay. I decided not to though, cause I like the ease of tapping the tempo, adjusting feedback, and that it can sync to MIDI clock. I imagine its just a matter of time before someone makes a unit with the same capabilities, better sound quality, more loop time, smaller, and with a $100 price tag... -chris From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 19:17:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA06304; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:17:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:17:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:36:27 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Jam Man Feeding Frenzy Resent-Message-ID: <"2h_BS.0.lL1.xDCns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well there's been concern about the $500 Jamster at Ebay. Remorse for selling one @ $450 in 30 minutes. Well let us see what happens when a Jam Man with 32 seconds is auctioned off at the Rogue Music Site: www.auctionsoup.com Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 19:55:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA12136; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:55:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:55:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: RE: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: <002201be56ea$26ce68b0$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"0ZpAP3.0.Ia2.glCns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > Try Bananas at Large in San Rafael. Not exactly downtown SF though... > But probably worth the trip. Do you know how much they are selling them for there? I would feel kind of bad going there, checking it out and then buying somewhere else because it meant saving a few hundred dollars. > Personally, I think the EDP has better sound quality than the Jam Man. I > notice a slight high-freq rolloff on the Jam man, but can not tell a > difference on the EDP from the direct signal, if I have my levels > set right. Great! My ears are not deceiving me, and apparently this is not a problem for you on the echo > > I thought of selling my Jam man recently too. I use the EDP for looping > and am just using the Jam Man as a delay. I decided not to > though, cause I > like the ease of tapping the tempo, adjusting feedback, and that it can > sync to MIDI clock. I imagine its just a matter of time before someone > makes a unit with the same capabilities, better sound quality, more loop > time, smaller, and with a $100 price tag... > Many delay units do this and more, and don't cost $500 :> Though I don't think you'ld find one with a 30 second delay time. bIz > -chris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 20:33:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA20238; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:33:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:33:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C47F79.E7D036C9@texas.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:22:35 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Jamman on Ebay - $500?!?!?!?! References: <66ec2198.36c4a4b8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LGG3T1.0.8f4.aIDns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Try Bananas at Large in San Rafael. Not exactly downtown SF though... > ...but an awfully nice drive, though. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 22:26:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA03236; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:26:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:26:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C4EE2C.A2E6DEA@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:14:53 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Vortex Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eabAS1.0.cS.IxEns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all- Question- Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't think it is- Thanks! Still awaiting my EDP... Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 12 22:39:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA04927; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:39:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 22:39:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C4F16C.27AAADC4@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:28:44 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: V. Pedal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ykeFQ1.0.9-._8Fns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok, shit- I just found out that one of the four mono pedals I have does create a connection- it is for my 4 track- and it doesen't work either! Interestingly enough, the mono jacks on the Vortex respond to either type of pedal just fine- go figure. Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 00:40:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA21168; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:40:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000101be5710$af29d480$1a1cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Modulations Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:21:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"2wHVn2.0.0q4.krGns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To all, I just viewed the film that is "Modulations" at the Wexner Center here in Columbus, Ohio. I must say that i thoroughly enjoyed this film. I do wish it had more on guys like Cage and Stockhausen, and Henry. And a little less of the techno music that was included, although it seemed to me that every time there was a Japanese performer in there, it was more interesting what they were doing in techno music (or dance music). I'm going back today...7:00 PM Saturday to enjoy it again, since it will only be around for so long. Perhaps they (the producers) will make this filmatic event into a home video. That would be great. Then i could watch it in a more personal environment (which means that i can get more out of it). Anyway, I would like to say to those who began speaking about this film on this list...THANK YOU!!! You've helped me by bringing a little more happiness into my life. Sincerely, Jeff Collins A Strange View of Music: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1429/STRANGETONES.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 00:45:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA22174; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:45:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 00:45:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990213053121.28804.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [202.61.238.1] From: "Evil Paul" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ausio Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 21:31:19 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"uVm0F1.0.x35.UzGns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for all the replies folks. Here goes ..... >try Acid from SOnic Foundry. It allows you to automatically allign >loops >with different BPMs. But not only...what's this DDClip? ACID looks like just what I need. You can find DDClip at the Shareware Music Machine. Thanks to them I now have about twenty different audio programs on my machine. http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ >> gives four stereo tracks of ausio and allows me to sequence WAV > ^^^^^Is that audio made by an Aussie? Yes, here in Australia CD's play anti-clockwise and I have to invert the waveforms of any samples that I download from the northern hemisphere before they will play in my upside-down speakers. >Have U try MPTRACKER or FASTTRACKER? If I was going to use a tracker I would use Buzz. The last time I used a tracker was back in high-school when I didn't have a life and could find the time to learn to use such things. Later, Evil Paul ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 02:29:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA02734; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:29:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:29:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <2c40bb98.36c5277d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:19:25 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Help here. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"aF6z13.0._a.RZIns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have a performance soon of some looping stuff, for some reason (and ive read the manual) when i go to a new loop(im talking EDP here)with the autorecord thing on and switchquantize off itll play the loop fine, then when i jump back to the first loop it will play in once and then stop, itll start again when i press undo or some other button and then it does this again when i go back to the second loop. thanks again to anybody who replies rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 02:34:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA03278; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:34:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:34:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Ausio Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:23:00 -0800 Message-ID: <003001be5721$afd40e80$14ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19990213053121.28804.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"oxK3G.0.3f.TcIns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You're fxxking with me, right? (Just saw "There's something about Mary.") But it's true, right?, you must be kidding about inverting waveforms... -----Original Message----- From: Evil Paul [mailto:pixiepuck@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday 12 February 1999 9:31 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Ausio Yes, here in Australia CD's play anti-clockwise and I have to invert the waveforms of any samples that I download from the northern hemisphere before they will play in my upside-down speakers. 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M-(U[S7\-0(-Y\WJC>R-\DWSS?:-^DW!C@-.!4X'C@R M.#\X=CA\.(LXFSBG.*XXM#BZ.,`XQCC,.-(XV#C>..0XZCCP./8X_#@".0@Y M#CD4.1HY(#DF.2PY,CDX.3XY1#E*.5`Y5CE<.6(Y:#EN.0`````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` *```````````````` ` end From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 04:21:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA14571; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:21:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:21:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C54150.A2D89F11@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:09:36 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex Question References: <36C4EE2C.A2E6DEA@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"gMkxb1.0.6O3.8AKns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight site. http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF All you need is here. jd Clifford Novey wrote: > Hello all- > > Question- > Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the > Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection > and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- > Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal > that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure > that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't > think it is- > > Thanks! > > Still awaiting my EDP... > > Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 04:53:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA18119; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:53:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:53:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990213094204.006b97cc@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:42:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Vortex Question Resent-Message-ID: <"nbbTM2.0.8G4.OeKns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com jd check your computer for virii you're spreading the happy99.exe virus. Don't open the attachment if you don't want some serious problems. To all who received the happy99.exe. erase the file without opening it. No panic please! ;) ciao leo At 04.09 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: >I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of >a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a >charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight >site. >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF >All you need is here. > >jd > >Clifford Novey wrote: > >> Hello all- >> >> Question- >> Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the >> Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection >> and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- >> Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal >> that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure >> that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't >> think it is- >> >> Thanks! >> >> Still awaiting my EDP... >> >> Clifford > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 04:58:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA18939; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:58:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:58:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C54906.889E12AD@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 04:42:30 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex Question References: <36C4EE2C.A2E6DEA@earthlink.net> <36C54150.A2D89F11@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fw-dx.0.1H4.weKns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com sorry about that new year attachment I have no idea how that happened! jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 05:27:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA21576; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:27:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:27:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2c40bb98.36c5277d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 01:57:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help here. Resent-Message-ID: <"W7Nkl.0.U35.Y3Lns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:19 PM -0800 2/12/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: >I have a performance soon of some looping stuff, for some reason (and ive read >the manual) when i go to a new loop(im talking EDP here)with the autorecord >thing on and switchquantize off itll play the loop fine, then when i jump back >to the first loop it will play in once and then stop, itll start again when i >press undo or some other button and then it does this again when i go back to >the second loop. sounds like what happens when you have the SamplerStyle parameter set to something other than "run". Set it to run and see if that fixes it. Probably Next shouldn't be affected by samplerstyle like that, maybe we'll do something about that someday... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 06:02:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA25101; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:02:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:02:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C5595D.5169FFBD@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 02:52:14 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex Question References: <2.2.32.19990213094204.006b97cc@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Mi3U3.0.ez5.2eLns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You are kidding, right?? Please tell me this is not true. Cliff Leonardo Cavallo wrote: > jd > check your computer for virii > > you're spreading the happy99.exe virus. Don't open the attachment if you > don't want some serious problems. > > To all who received the happy99.exe. erase the file without opening it. > No panic please! ;) > > ciao > leo > > At 04.09 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of > >a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a > >charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight > >site. > >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF > >All you need is here. > > > >jd > > > >Clifford Novey wrote: > > > >> Hello all- > >> > >> Question- > >> Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the > >> Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection > >> and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- > >> Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal > >> that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure > >> that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't > >> think it is- > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Still awaiting my EDP... > >> > >> Clifford > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 06:26:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA27628; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:26:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:26:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C55F6C.5E8A41B6@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:18:04 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Happy99 Virus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"D-6Gj1.0.iU6.F0Mns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok, that virus was for real- Go to the following to get details on how to remove all the components of the virus and DO NOT restart your computer until you remove it all!! http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm Cliff PS- I am embarassed to say I figured out my Vortex "problem"- I was unaware that ALL the jacks are stereo and that the two middle ones have two functions- the outer two which i thought were the only stereo ones control an amp channel switch or an expression pedal to adjust the currently selected parameter- Thanks for all the help everyone!!! I will be posting a patch or a morph to Andy Butler's Vortex page and encourage anyone who has a favorite patch or morph to do the same- it is a great idea and Andy has an easy to use format for submissions and display! Andy's Vortex Page: http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 06:51:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA29643; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:51:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 06:51:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C564F3.8FD7C3D6@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:41:39 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: clifsound Subject: Happy99.exe VIRUS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SlYJk.0.t97.vOMns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok folks- I hate those chain mails about some bullshit virus alert but this is for REAL- I got an e-mail with an attachment that was named "Happy99.exe"- when you open it you see a fireworks display- well, someone wrote me right after (on a mailing list) and said it was a virus so I searched the internet and found out is a real virus! The following link will tell you about it- http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm Do not restart your computer until you have removed all the virus files if you received Happy99.exe in an e-mail and opened it and saw the fireworks display! If you have the file but have not opened it just delete it. Most of the virus files are in C:\Windows\System There is also a key in the directory that needs to be removed. If you have Win 98 you can re-install your Winsock32.dll file which is modified by the virus. Contact me if you need any help- I hope you are all well- Clifford If you have any questions or need help you can call me- Here is the info on the virus: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME: Win32/Ska.A ALIAS: Happy99, WSOCK32.SKA, SKA.EXE, I-Worm.Happy, PE_SKA SIZE: 10000 Win32/Ska.A is a Win32-based e-mail and newsgroup worm. It displays fireworks when executed first time as Happy99.exe. (Normally this file arrives as an e-mail attachment to a particular PC, or it is downloaded from a newsgroup.) When executed first time, it creates SKA.EXE and SKA.DLL in the system directory. SKA.EXE is a copy of HAPPY99.EXE. SKA.DLL is packed inside SKA.EXE. After this Ska creates a copy of WSOCK32.DLL as WSOCK32.SKA in the system directory. Then it tries to patch WSOCK32.DLL so that its export entries for two functions will point to new routines (to the worm's own functions) inside the patched WSOCK32.DLL. If WSOCK32.DLL is in use, Ska.A modifies the registry's RunOnce entry to execute SKA.EXE during next boot-up. (When executed as SKA.EXE it does not display the firework, just tries to patch WSCOK32.DLL until it is not used.) "Connect" and "Send" exports are patched in WSOCK32.DLL. Thus the worm is able to see if the local user has any activity on network. When "Connect" or "Send" APIs are called, Ska loads its SKA.DLL containing two exports: "news" and "mail". Then it spams itself to the same newsgroups or same e-mail addresses where the user was posting or mailing to. It maps SKA.EXE to memory and converts it to uuencoded format and mails an additional e-mail or newsgroup post with the same header information as the original message but containing no text but just an attachment called Happy99.exe. Therefore Happy99 is not limited like the Win32/Parvo virus which is unable to use a particular news server when the user does not have access to it. The worm also maintains a list of addresses it has posted a copy of itself. This is stored in a file called LISTE.SKA. (The number of entries are limited in this file.) The worm contains the following encrytped text which is not displayed: Is it a virus, a worm, a trojan? MOUT-MOUT Hybrid (c) Spanska 1999. The mail header of the manipulated mails will contain a new field called "X-Spanska: YES". Normally this header field is not visible to receivers of the message. Since the worm does not check WSOCK32.DLL's attribute, it can not patch it if it is set to read only. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 07:12:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA31907; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:12:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:12:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990213115919.006b8c58@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:59:19 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Vortex Question Resent-Message-ID: <"a2ogz1.0.za7.5fMns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com it's sadly true.... ciao leo At 02.52 13/02/99 -0800, you wrote: >You are kidding, right?? Please tell me this is not true. > >Cliff > >Leonardo Cavallo wrote: > >> jd >> check your computer for virii >> >> you're spreading the happy99.exe virus. Don't open the attachment if you >> don't want some serious problems. >> >> To all who received the happy99.exe. erase the file without opening it. >> No panic please! ;) >> >> ciao >> leo >> >> At 04.09 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of >> >a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a >> >charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight >> >site. >> >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF >> >All you need is here. >> > >> >jd >> > >> >Clifford Novey wrote: >> > >> >> Hello all- >> >> >> >> Question- >> >> Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the >> >> Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection >> >> and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- >> >> Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal >> >> that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure >> >> that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't >> >> think it is- >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Still awaiting my EDP... >> >> >> >> Clifford >> > >> > >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 08:44:02 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA12294; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:44:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:44:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C57E9A.5362A300@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:31:06 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Vortex Question References: <2.2.32.19990213094204.006b97cc@mail.dada.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"tobOs1.0.Rb2.E_Nns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I am just glad it wasn't the SAD.exe, jeez I need to clean up all these bundles of death I have lying around. I apoligize once again and just follow Leos and Cliffords advice. Its all part of my plan for world domination. Leonardo Cavallo wrote: > jd > check your computer for virii > > you're spreading the happy99.exe virus. Don't open the attachment if you > don't want some serious problems. > > To all who received the happy99.exe. erase the file without opening it. > No panic please! ;) > > ciao > leo > > At 04.09 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of > >a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a > >charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight > >site. > >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF > >All you need is here. > > > >jd > > > >Clifford Novey wrote: > > > >> Hello all- > >> > >> Question- > >> Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the > >> Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection > >> and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- > >> Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal > >> that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure > >> that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't > >> think it is- > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Still awaiting my EDP... > >> > >> Clifford > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 10:06:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA21996; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:06:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:06:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C5926D.87C6764@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:55:41 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Happy.exe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7kBFZ1.0.GB5.ZEPns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What can I say, it is true. That little bundle was sent to me by my drummer. I had no idea that it was infected and I am running Nortons anti-virus but had not updated it. I downloaded the free trial version of F-Secure antivirus and have cleaned my system. http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm Once again, I am truly sorry and apoligize for this inadvertant act of cyber- terrorism. Its the first time that I have ever seen a real virus and I had gotten slack. Jeff ( not happy ) Duke From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 10:27:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA24497; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:27:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:27:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902131519.KAA10274@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Vortex Question Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:18:18 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"crS8r1.0.eu5.LaPns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com fuck!!!! i opened it!!so much for being careful! andre' ---------- > From: Jeff Duke > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Vortex Question > Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 8:31 AM > > I am just glad it wasn't the SAD.exe, jeez I need to clean up all these bundles > of death I have lying around. I apoligize once again and just follow Leos and > Cliffords advice. Its all part of my plan for world domination. > > Leonardo Cavallo wrote: > > > jd > > check your computer for virii > > > > you're spreading the happy99.exe virus. Don't open the attachment if you > > don't want some serious problems. > > > > To all who received the happy99.exe. erase the file without opening it. > > No panic please! ;) > > > > ciao > > leo > > > > At 04.09 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of > > >a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a > > >charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight > > >site. > > >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF > > >All you need is here. > > > > > >jd > > > > > >Clifford Novey wrote: > > > > > >> Hello all- > > >> > > >> Question- > > >> Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the > > >> Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection > > >> and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- > > >> Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal > > >> that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure > > >> that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't > > >> think it is- > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> > > >> Still awaiting my EDP... > > >> > > >> Clifford > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 10:40:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA26131; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:40:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:40:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902131531.KAA13844@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Vortex....uh ..VIRUS Question Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:31:10 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Trg1I3.0.5E6.ImPns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey.. i got that dumb virus (thankx) i deleted the files mentioned on the site...will that do it?? i really hope i can start my computer later to get your reply!!! thanx,andre' Homepage http://www.monmouth.com/~andre Info on my bands JFK's LSD UFO and HIDDEN AGENDA official PROJECT/OBJECT site http://www.jswd.net/projectobject [frank zappa tribute band i play guitar in] ---------- > From: Jeff Duke > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Vortex Question > Date: Saturday, February 13, 1999 8:31 AM > > I am just glad it wasn't the SAD.exe, jeez I need to clean up all these bundles > of death I have lying around. I apoligize once again and just follow Leos and > Cliffords advice. Its all part of my plan for world domination. > > Leonardo Cavallo wrote: > > > jd > > check your computer for virii > > > > you're spreading the happy99.exe virus. Don't open the attachment if you > > don't want some serious problems. > > > > To all who received the happy99.exe. erase the file without opening it. > > No panic please! ;) > > > > ciao > > leo > > > > At 04.09 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >I got 1 stereo female jack from Radio Shack and replaced the out put jack of > > >a regular volume pedal following the schematic in the manual. Works like a > > >charm. See more in the Tools of the Trade archive on the Loopers Delight > > >site. > > >http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/vortex/vortex04.GIF > > >All you need is here. > > > > > >jd > > > > > >Clifford Novey wrote: > > > > > >> Hello all- > > >> > > >> Question- > > >> Does anyone know what type of pedal the stereo pedal jacks need on the > > >> Vortex? I checked the pedals I have and they interrupt the connection > > >> and work fine in the mono pedal jacks- > > >> Do the stereo jacks (for A/B switch, register/preset, etc.) need a pedal > > >> that creates a connection?? I broke out the multitester to be sure > > >> that the adapter setup I have is not mixing the signals and I don't > > >> think it is- > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> > > >> Still awaiting my EDP... > > >> > > >> Clifford > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 11:00:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA28762; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:00:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:00:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <3154759e.36c59f78@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:51:20 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Vortex Pedal Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 118 Resent-Message-ID: <"PW3oT1.0._s6.m2Qns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 11/02/99 03:03:50 GMT Standard Time, clifsound@earthlink.net writes: > Ok, I bought a stereo male 1/4" to 2 mono rca- then got 2- rca to mono > 1/4" adapters and hooked up two mono pedals pedals but nothing happened- > bummer! > > Any ideas?? Everyone has been very kind in the help dep't thus far- much > thanks! > > Cliff > Sounds like it ought to work, have you checked that the footswitches work individually? Loose connections with all those adapters? Better to solder up a stereo jack to two monos if pos. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 12:32:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA08262; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:32:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:32:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C5B4AC.23EA31FA@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:21:48 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Happy.exe References: <36C5926D.87C6764@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"shjxB.0._o1.XNRns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com btw, I did not send and would never send any attachment unasked to any mailing list or newsgroup. I had already been infected and when I replied to Cliffords post the virus sent itself to the list. Nobody was more suprised than me to see happy99.exe show up like that. chagrined in Atlanta, jeff Jeff Duke wrote: > What can I say, it is true. That little bundle was sent to me by my > drummer. I had no idea that it was infected and I am running Nortons > anti-virus but had not updated it. > > I downloaded the free trial version of F-Secure antivirus and have > cleaned my system. > http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm > > Once again, I am truly sorry and apoligize for this inadvertant act of > cyber- terrorism. > Its the first time that I have ever seen a real virus and I had gotten > slack. > > Jeff ( not happy ) Duke From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 13:08:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA13868; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:08:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:08:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36C5926D.87C6764@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:59:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: Happy.exe Resent-Message-ID: <"O1h042.0.B63.TvRns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >What can I say, it is true. That little bundle was sent to me by my >drummer. I had no idea that it was infected and I am running Nortons >anti-virus but had not updated it. > >I downloaded the free trial version of F-Secure antivirus and have >cleaned my system. >http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm > > Once again, I am truly sorry and apoligize for this inadvertant act of >cyber- terrorism. >Its the first time that I have ever seen a real virus and I had gotten >slack. > >Jeff ( not happy ) Duke Boy am I gald I run a Mac G3 instead of windows! :-) Although, does anyone know if I am running a windows emulator, can I still get the virus? Thanks, Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 13:17:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA15300; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:17:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:17:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C3FE0F.6921@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:10:23 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Happy99.exe VIRUS References: <36C564F3.8FD7C3D6@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ny3F92.0.Cc3.n3Sns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you did'nt see the fireworks display and just recieved a file of giberish does that mean you were not infected? Colin|niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 13:55:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA20050; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:55:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 13:55:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Happy99 Virus Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:45:10 -0800 Message-ID: <001001be5780$fb89e020$30ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <36C55F6C.5E8A41B6@earthlink.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"MTHuH.0.ll4.2cSns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Clifford, I want to thank you for your prompt advice. I'd never heard of viruses through e-mail, but I now I know. I read several messages following yours and had time to just delete Happy99 without opening it. Thanks, dude. -----Original Message----- From: Clifford Novey [mailto:clifsound@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday 13 February 1999 3:18 AM To: Loopers Subject: Happy99 Virus Ok, that virus was for real- Go to the following to get details on how to remove all the components of the virus and DO NOT restart your computer until you remove it all!! http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm Cliff PS- I am embarassed to say I figured out my Vortex "problem"- I was unaware that ALL the jacks are stereo and that the two middle ones have two functions- the outer two which i thought were the only stereo ones control an amp channel switch or an expression pedal to adjust the currently selected parameter- Thanks for all the help everyone!!! I will be posting a patch or a morph to Andy Butler's Vortex page and encourage anyone who has a favorite patch or morph to do the same- it is a great idea and Andy has an easy to use format for submissions and display! Andy's Vortex Page: http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 17:23:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA18657; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:23:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:23:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <19499df9.36c5f916@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:13:42 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Happy.exe Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"Au6Pv1.0.iQ4.cfVns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/13/99 4:04:23 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, edwin@indra.com writes: << I downloaded the free trial version of F-Secure antivirus and have >cleaned my system. >http://www.datafellows.fi/v-descs/ska.htm >> i went to this page and filled out the form for the trial and it sent me to a page that wouldnt let me do anything.....help......i did not see the "fire- works" when i d/l this happy exe.....now im freakin.....im afraid to shut down my puter......all this and no vallium.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 18:01:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA24001; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:01:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 18:01:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990213175659.0079c7f0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 17:56:59 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"dZ2Ps.0.Ti5.0EWns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's the question I posed to EBow re last week's thread, and their two-word reply: >:Comments : Would it be commercially viable for you guys to issue a >larger, more powerful BASS EBow? You know, one where the spacing is correct >for bass strings so we won't have to keep doing the balancing act you >describe in your FAQ section. >Some day. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 13 21:47:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA22003; Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:47:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:47:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.1.19990213213801.00933890@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 21:39:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Happy.exe In-Reply-To: <19499df9.36c5f916@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Cnzb6.0.u95.3WZns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 05:13 PM 2/13/99 -0500, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >....help......i did not see the "fire- >works" when i d/l this happy exe.....now im freakin.....im afraid to shut >down my puter......all this and no vallium.....michael > i don't think the virus can get loose just by downloading the program. You have to run it (click on it or "open" it as some people say) to see the fireworks and get infected. Just throw it in the trash (errr. recycling bin) and empty it and get some sleep :) **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** http://www.studiodust.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 03:28:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA02441; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:28:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:28:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990213213801.00933890@unix01.voicenet.com> References: <19499df9.36c5f916@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 23:45:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Muir Subject: POLAR Resent-Message-ID: <"ete_b2.0.iq7.2Mens"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Has anyone checked out Mark of the Unicorn's latest Digital Performer? It has a feature that they call POLAR, for Performance Oriented Loop Audio Recording. They were apparently showing this at NAMM, but I seem to have an alergic reaction to MOTU, so I didn't look at their booth. Chris _________________________________________________ Chris Muir | cbm@well.com | Got moloko? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 03:34:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA03296; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:34:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:34:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:20:55 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Help here. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"eY4Fm3.0.KX.cYens"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/13/99 5:22:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, kflint@annihilist.com writes: > At 11:19 PM -0800 2/12/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: > >I have a performance soon of some looping stuff, for some reason (and ive > read > >the manual) when i go to a new loop(im talking EDP here)with the autorecord > >thing on and switchquantize off itll play the loop fine, then when i jump > back > >to the first loop it will play in once and then stop, itll start again when > i > >press undo or some other button and then it does this again when i go back > to > >the second loop. > > sounds like what happens when you have the SamplerStyle parameter set to > something other than "run". Set it to run and see if that fixes it. > > Probably Next shouldn't be affected by samplerstyle like that, maybe we'll > do something about that someday... > > kim > that did the trick thanks a ton rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 03:34:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA03377; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:34:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:34:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <29b55942.36c6879b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:21:47 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: SIMM chips? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"mwqMw2.0.qZ.iZens"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I remember some talk here before about mail ordering the memory for an EDP, what was the name of the place to get it from rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 03:48:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA05472; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:48:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 03:48:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C637FF.FBC84700@texas.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 02:42:07 +0000 From: Bobdog Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry (bass ebow) References: <3.0.5.32.19990213175659.0079c7f0@pop.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"S-d711.0.AG1.dqens"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i once talked to the guys at ebow about the bass model as well. you see, i remember seeing ads for the bass model when i was a kid in guitar player. i mentioned this to them & they told me that they made six. so if you find one... bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 04:25:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA09470; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 04:25:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 04:25:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990214090023.16287.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:00:23 -0800 (PST) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: SIMM chips? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"YguzS3.0.Mm1.a6fns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I posted last week saying that I bought the 4 meg simms (60 ns) for $12 each from Computer Parts USA. They are installed & working fine. http://computerpartsusa.com John ---Kriist@aol.com wrote: > > I remember some talk here before about mail ordering the memory for an EDP, > what was the name of the place to get it from > > rodrigo > > == John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 05:06:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA12824; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:06:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 05:06:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE5808.CB8FBC90.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: EBow Guestlist Entry Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:33:40 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eBJEb2.0.Uy2.Atfns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >:Comments : Would it be commercially viable for you guys to issue a > >larger, more powerful BASS EBow? You know, one where the spacing is correct > >for bass strings so we won't have to keep doing the balancing act you > >describe in your FAQ section. > > >Some day. ROFL. They make the guitar notes long, but their words are short. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 10:16:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA12406; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:16:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:16:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Bizurko@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:58:33 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: SIMM chips? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 207 Resent-Message-ID: <"mbimQ.0.HR2.VNkns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com www.computerpartsusa.com was one option. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 10:38:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA16453; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:38:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:38:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005c01be57bb$d025ed80$af053cc3@default> From: "Alex Barnell" To: Subject: New loop-based software in development Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:45:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"740o8.0.dP3.Gfkns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi there I am primarily a musician, using my computer as a sampler to knock out tunes. I am starting a new software project, which will allow the user to produce *live* music, by looping existing sounds, and recording new ones on the fly. This will be done by accessing all the program features via a MIDI keyboard menu system. This way, you can play in tunes, sample external sources and do effects on your loops without ever having to touch a mouse or keyboard (something I think can get in the way of making music). So for example, bottom C on your keyboard would activate your menus on screen (and also activate the menu keys on your keyboard), there would be basic keys to start, stop and record MIDI data from the keyboard, and you could use your pitch bend wheel (or any controller available to you) to change envelopes, filters, reverb etc. Basically, everything is done from your keyboard for simplicity, with visual representation of what you are doing on screen. I would very much appreciate your comments, and any ideas you may have. I plan to continue this project into my university course at doc.ic.ac.uk. Tell me what you think! :-) Alex From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 12:18:48 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA29386; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:18:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:18:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990214170451.006b1140@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:04:51 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Happy.exe Resent-Message-ID: <"QRfAA.0.Aw6.kDmns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com one time for all to be infected you have to run the file happy99.exe. if you trash the attachment without opening it there'll be no problem. ciao leo At 21.39 13/02/99 -0500, you wrote: >At 05:13 PM 2/13/99 -0500, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >>....help......i did not see the "fire- >>works" when i d/l this happy exe.....now im freakin.....im afraid to shut >>down my puter......all this and no vallium.....michael >> > >i don't think the virus can get loose just by downloading the program. >You have to run it (click on it or "open" it as some people say) to see >the fireworks and get infected. > >Just throw it in the trash (errr. recycling bin) and empty it >and get some sleep :) > > > >**************** > ********** Floyd Miller > ****** floyd@voicenet.com > **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd > ** http://www.studiodust.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 12:20:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA29715; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:20:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:20:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990214170712.006aabe4@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:07:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: New loop-based software in development Resent-Message-ID: <"tPksj2.0.ez6.jFmns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com great! I'm really interested... let us know for future development. ciao leo At 01.45 14/02/99 -0000, you wrote: >Hi there > >I am primarily a musician, using my computer as a sampler to knock out >tunes. I am starting a new software project, which will allow the user to >produce *live* music, by looping existing sounds, and recording new ones on >the fly. > >This will be done by accessing all the program features via a MIDI keyboard >menu system. This way, you can play in tunes, sample external sources and do >effects on your loops without ever having to touch a mouse or keyboard >(something I think can get in the way of making music). So for example, >bottom C on your keyboard would activate your menus on screen (and also >activate the menu keys on your keyboard), there would be basic keys to >start, stop and record MIDI data from the keyboard, and you could use your >pitch bend wheel (or any controller available to you) to change envelopes, >filters, reverb etc. Basically, everything is done from your keyboard for >simplicity, with visual representation of what you are doing on screen. > >I would very much appreciate your comments, and any ideas you may have. I >plan to continue this project into my university course at doc.ic.ac.uk. > >Tell me what you think! :-) > >Alex > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 13:12:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05286; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:12:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:12:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: RE: SIMM chips? Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 09:53:05 -0800 Message-ID: <000101be5842$e2f44e20$273fdacf@sgoodman.primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <29b55942.36c6879b@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"XN0ZL3.0.Ko.Rxmns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If you know the specs of the chips you're looking for, you might do a comparison shop via the venerable Computer Shopper, at http://www.computershopper.com - this links to vendors as well, thus saving mucho tiempo. I used it to locate a vendor who could supply me with most of the parts I need for my New PC... Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week (now Dedication-Free)! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > -----Original Message----- > From: Kriist@aol.com [mailto:Kriist@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 12:22 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: SIMM chips? > > > I remember some talk here before about mail ordering the > memory for an EDP, > what was the name of the place to get it from > > rodrigo > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 14:02:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA14686; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:02:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:02:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990213213801.00933890@unix01.voicenet.com> <19499df9.36c5f916@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:41:55 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Stuart Fox Subject: Re: POLAR Resent-Message-ID: <"odGvl2.0.5r2.ofnns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A friend of mine, who saw the demo at NAMM, said it was very impressive. A guitarist, bass player, and drummer, plus Shaka Khan and other singers all laying down live loops, and switching between them. There has been no official information from MOTU outside of the NAMM demo about the details of POLAR. It is slated to be incorporated into version 2.6. They just started shipping version 2.5, so I wouldn't expect it soon. Digital performer already has the ability to loop audio and MIDI sequences. There has been a lot of discussion on the MOTU list about the fact that it is not very suited to live performance. MOTU monitors the list and is generally responsive to suggestions. I don't think it would take a lot of programming to create a live interface to the existing features. DP 2.6 is supposed to be shipped as a free upgrade to purchasers of 2.5 Stuart >Has anyone checked out Mark of the Unicorn's latest Digital Performer? It >has a feature that they call POLAR, for Performance Oriented Loop Audio >Recording. They were apparently showing this at NAMM, but I seem to have an >alergic reaction to MOTU, so I didn't look at their booth. > >Chris > >_________________________________________________ >Chris Muir | cbm@well.com | Got moloko? Stuart Fox CalArts Guitar sgfox@music.calarts.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 14:07:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA15502; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:07:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:07:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: New loop-based software in development Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:48:23 -0800 Message-ID: <000101be584a$995bb160$17ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990214170712.006aabe4@mail.dada.it> Resent-Message-ID: <"rFcQM1.0.y83.Mlnns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's time somebody would have done that. I wish you much success, and I'll surely be among your first customers. >Hi there > >I am primarily a musician, using my computer as a sampler to knock out >tunes. I am starting a new software project, which will allow the user to >produce *live* music, by looping existing sounds, and recording new ones on >the fly. > >This will be done by accessing all the program features via a MIDI keyboard >menu system. This way, you can play in tunes, sample external sources and do >effects on your loops without ever having to touch a mouse or keyboard >(something I think can get in the way of making music). So for example, >bottom C on your keyboard would activate your menus on screen (and also >activate the menu keys on your keyboard), there would be basic keys to >start, stop and record MIDI data from the keyboard, and you could use your >pitch bend wheel (or any controller available to you) to change envelopes, >filters, reverb etc. Basically, everything is done from your keyboard for >simplicity, with visual representation of what you are doing on screen. > >I would very much appreciate your comments, and any ideas you may have. I >plan to continue this project into my university course at doc.ic.ac.uk. > >Tell me what you think! :-) > >Alex > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 21:14:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA08678; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:14:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:14:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C77F72.A428AB12@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:59:15 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Vortex delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"d1S5V1.0.Ce1.I0uns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all- I am getting into working with my new Vortex and you definitely have to have all the foot controllers to use it's full potetial- I have my keyboard/DR 5 running stereo through it and my guitar running through it stereo as well-both to my stereo system and a dry line going to my guitar amp- I love making little loops with either (keyboard or guitar) and jamming is a blast- It is making my mouth water at the thought of getting my EDP. I love using the Leslie like sounds and the a/b switch to speed it up or slow it down- I really am just getting started with this thing though- I was wondering if anyone knows what kind of pedal works in the port that controls the Value? I tried my volume pedal but that obviously did not work- duh- What kind does it use/ are you all using and are they expensive? Thanks- Clifford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 14 22:05:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA15866; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:05:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:05:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE5864.931BD040.laureen@webjogger.net> From: Laureen Kress Reply-To: "laureen@webjogger.net" To: "'loopers-delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: She is my HERO!!!!!! Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:54:07 -0500 Organization: John Kress Consulting, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vqZNG3.0.Lh3.wruns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have loved Joni for what seems like forever, went to see her many times, had a friend back in high school who was obsessed, he knew how to play all her songs on the guitar and I would do my best to belt out her tunes, which was not an easy task with her range, but I tried. I will never stop listening to her and have all of her albums and play them on my turn table every chance I get. I'm 39 and she makes me feel like I'm a teenager again with every line I melt back in time. Thanks for the chance to talk about the most gifted human being on the face of this earth!!! Laureen from New York From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 00:52:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA07272; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:52:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 00:52:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <8B57882C41A0D1118F7100805F9F68B50C8D8686@RED-MSG-45> From: Greg Sundberg To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 21:37:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"eIOVC3.0.XP1.KFxns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I can beat that 2 word reply. I sent an email to ebow asking if they plan on marketing a 6 string version that would fit into a standard pickup slot (i.e. a Fernandes sustainer, but as we all know ya can't buy 'em without buying the whole damn guitar). Their response: "Yup." I sent a follow up asking if they could elaborate. Their repines: "Nope." They did stretch themselves and added a few extra words: >> "Sorry. We found it better to say nothing until a >> product is actually fully manifest. Avoids the >> onslaught of questions. It's NOT just around the corner." So I'm not holding my breath -- but I'm refraining from buying a Fernandes sustainer for now (although I did see one on Ebay for $500.... oops, wrong thread) :^) -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] Sent: Saturday, February 13, 1999 5:57 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry Here's the question I posed to EBow re last week's thread, and their two-word reply: >:Comments : Would it be commercially viable for you guys to issue a >larger, more powerful BASS EBow? You know, one where the spacing is correct >for bass strings so we won't have to keep doing the balancing act you >describe in your FAQ section. >Some day. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 04:16:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA31589; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:16:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 04:16:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <36C7E520.F6A56B7B@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:13:05 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: ebow and bass References: <199902150805.DAA23983@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"l-3k91.0.hZ7.bJ-ns"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, i don't get it people;.. I use my Ebow with my Stick, my bass and my guitars. No trouble. What kind of impediment you think you would have to overcome, to use an Ebow with a bass????? Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 10:25:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA08728; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:25:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:25:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C82C50.86D739CE@spyral.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 09:16:52 -0500 From: fretless6 <144music@spyral.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Akai Headrush? References: <199902150825.DAA26039@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2FqlG1.0.zb1.Nb3os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering if anyone has purchased the new Akai looper pedal and whether it is a worthwhile investment. Thanks David C Gross From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 10:49:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA12282; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:49:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:49:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C83B8C.3FB84738@spyral.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 10:21:58 -0500 From: fretless6 <144music@spyral.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Akai Headrush? References: <199902150825.DAA26039@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"oy3KY3.0.hd2.yz3os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering if anyone has purchased the new Akai looper pedal and whether it is a worthwhile investment. Thanks David C Gross From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 13:47:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA12231; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:47:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:47:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990215181720.006ce100@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:17:20 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Akai Headrush? Resent-Message-ID: <"tmXKk3.0.-w1.9P6os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09.16 15/02/99 -0500, you wrote: >I was wondering if anyone has purchased the new Akai looper pedal and >whether it is a worthwhile investment. > >Thanks > >David C Gross > hey, are you the bassist I think you are? ;) Did you use Fodera basses? ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 14:48:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA25020; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:48:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:48:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Happy.exe Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:35:22 -0800 Message-ID: <000101be591a$53cb3280$30ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990213213801.00933890@unix01.voicenet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"-Dp-M.0.2Y5.bW7os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's another URL about the Happy99 virus I saw at Anchordesk: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3652/SKA.HTM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 14:53:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA26492; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:53:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:53:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:39:07 -0800 Message-ID: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8B57882C41A0D1118F7100805F9F68B50C8D8686@RED-MSG-45> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"EoEqH2.0.jd5.MY7os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Damn! They used to sell them separately. I suppose they figured they could make more money this way. Too bad for them - I would have bought one for every guitar and stick I could still buy them separate. bIz > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Sundberg [mailto:gregsun@MICROSOFT.com] > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 9:38 PM > To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' > Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry > > > I can beat that 2 word reply. I sent an email to ebow asking if they plan > on marketing a 6 string version that would fit into a standard pickup slot > (i.e. a Fernandes sustainer, but as we all know ya can't buy 'em without > buying the whole damn guitar). > > Their response: "Yup." > > I sent a follow up asking if they could elaborate. Their repines: "Nope." > They did stretch themselves and added a few extra words: > > >> "Sorry. We found it better to say nothing until a > >> product is actually fully manifest. Avoids the > >> onslaught of questions. It's NOT just around the corner." > > So I'm not holding my breath -- but I'm refraining from buying a Fernandes > sustainer for now (although I did see one on Ebay for $500.... > oops, wrong > thread) :^) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 1999 5:57 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry > > > Here's the question I posed to EBow re last week's thread, and their > two-word reply: > > >:Comments : Would it be commercially viable for you guys to issue a > >larger, more powerful BASS EBow? You know, one where the spacing > is correct > >for bass strings so we won't have to keep doing the balancing act you > >describe in your FAQ section. > > >Some day. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 17:31:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA27859; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:31:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:31:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C8AD3C.4C631A1E@magelang.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:26:52 -0800 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry References: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RpDfQ.0.wM6.Iv9os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From a thread about a year ago, I remember that placement of the sustainer pickup relative to the strings is critical, and difficult to achieve as an add-on kit. On the plus side, Fernandez should now be offering a decent LesPaul copy w/ a sustainer, and also a GK-2a if you custom order it. jim Jonathan El-Bizri wrote: > > Damn! They used to sell them separately. I suppose they figured they could > make more money this way. Too bad for them - I would have bought one for > every guitar and stick I could still buy them separate. > > bIz > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Sundberg [mailto:gregsun@MICROSOFT.com] > > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 9:38 PM > > To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' > > Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry > > > > > > I can beat that 2 word reply. I sent an email to ebow asking if they plan > > on marketing a 6 string version that would fit into a standard pickup slot > > (i.e. a Fernandes sustainer, but as we all know ya can't buy 'em without > > buying the whole damn guitar). > > > > Their response: "Yup." > > > > I sent a follow up asking if they could elaborate. Their repines: "Nope." > > They did stretch themselves and added a few extra words: > > > > >> "Sorry. We found it better to say nothing until a > > >> product is actually fully manifest. Avoids the > > >> onslaught of questions. It's NOT just around the corner." > > > > So I'm not holding my breath -- but I'm refraining from buying a Fernandes > > sustainer for now (although I did see one on Ebay for $500.... > > oops, wrong > > thread) :^) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] > > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 1999 5:57 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > > Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry > > > > > > Here's the question I posed to EBow re last week's thread, and their > > two-word reply: > > > > >:Comments : Would it be commercially viable for you guys to issue a > > >larger, more powerful BASS EBow? You know, one where the spacing > > is correct > > >for bass strings so we won't have to keep doing the balancing act you > > >describe in your FAQ section. > > > > >Some day. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 18:02:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA01801; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:02:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:02:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:17:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Boomerang @ Harmony Central Resent-Message-ID: <"GNuD5.0.Y3.JMAos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't know if this is a good price or not, but for those who are interested I just found htis at Harmnony Central: FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler $300. Asking Price: US$300 Condition: Mint Age: 1 year Description: Hardly used Boomerang Phrase Sampler; 4 Min. maximum recording time, looping capabilities and the best backwards playback in the business. Foot switches for looping, half-speed, reversal, etc. List $650., sell $300. Includes manual and AC adaptor. Klimmer1@aol.com Seller: Rob Coleman, E-mail: klimmer1@aolNOSPAM.com (Profile) Location: GREENBRAE, CA Post Date: 2/14/99 Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 19:05:25 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA14845; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:05:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:05:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> References: <8B57882C41A0D1118F7100805F9F68B50C8D8686@RED-MSG-45> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:55:18 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry Resent-Message-ID: <"1rga52.0.eP3.ZKBos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com as far as I know, you always had to special order the fern. sustainer pickups from Japan, probably you still can. And then you have to find someone who was capable of installing it. That's actually not a small trick, because retrofitting it into an instrument is not easy at all. requires precise placement or it doesn't work right, which is likely to mean unpleasant amounts of routing. IMO, its a one trick pony and you're better off getting one of the low end (cheap) fernandes guitars for the times when you want the one trick..... At 11:39 AM -0800 2/15/99, Jonathan El-Bizri wrote: >Damn! They used to sell them separately. I suppose they figured they could >make more money this way. Too bad for them - I would have bought one for >every guitar and stick I could still buy them separate. > >bIz > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Greg Sundberg [mailto:gregsun@MICROSOFT.com] >> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 1999 9:38 PM >> To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' >> Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry >> >> >> I can beat that 2 word reply. I sent an email to ebow asking if they plan >> on marketing a 6 string version that would fit into a standard pickup slot >> (i.e. a Fernandes sustainer, but as we all know ya can't buy 'em without >> buying the whole damn guitar). ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 19:18:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA18089; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:18:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:18:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36C8AD3C.4C631A1E@magelang.com> References: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:08:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry Resent-Message-ID: <"o677G2.0.QA4.vWBos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 3:26 PM -0800 2/15/99, Jim Coker wrote: >On the plus side, Fernandez should now be offering >a decent LesPaul copy w/ a sustainer, hmm, do they just like getting sued, or is it not really a lespaul copy? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 19:29:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA21155; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:29:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:29:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990215193051.00890e30@tctc.com> X-Sender: pearce@tctc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:30:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: pearce Subject: RE: EBow Guestlist Entry In-Reply-To: References: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> <8B57882C41A0D1118F7100805F9F68B50C8D8686@RED-MSG-45> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"oTBvc2.0.Tx4.ohBos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just to add another thought in this e-bow discussion.... Sustainiac Music is soon going to have a new installable sustainer unit. I talked with Alan Hoover recently, and although I don't remember exactly WHEN he said it would be available, it sounds like this Sustainiac system will be pretty easy to install- probably MUCH easier than gutting a Fernandes......if you want to contact Alan, his e-mail is HooverA@tce.com He's a great guy, and really knows his stuff in this area of infinite sustain. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 19:46:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA27228; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:46:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:46:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C8CC9E.712A5E5B@magelang.com> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:40:46 -0800 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry References: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"BdfmX.0.Yi5.osBos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com They list both Mr. Fripp and Mr. Belew as users, and since Mr. Fripp plays a "les-paul-style" fernandez with various goodies, I called to check on availability. They said a version of their Monterey (i.e. looks like a L.P.) w/ sustainers would be out early 99. jim Kim Flint wrote: > > At 3:26 PM -0800 2/15/99, Jim Coker wrote: > >On the plus side, Fernandez should now be offering > >a decent LesPaul copy w/ a sustainer, > > hmm, do they just like getting sued, or is it not really a lespaul copy? > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 19:53:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA29498; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:53:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:53:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002601be5945$01a8ae80$951bbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry (fersus) Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:40:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"fVhBl3.0.gq6.C1Cos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim wrote: >as far as I know, you always had to special order the fern. sustainer >pickups from Japan, probably you still can. And then you have to find >someone who was capable of installing it. That's actually not a small >trick, because retrofitting it into an instrument is not easy at all. >requires precise placement or it doesn't work right, which is likely to >mean unpleasant amounts of routing. IMO, its a one trick pony and you're >better off getting one of the low end (cheap) fernandes guitars for the >times when you want the one trick..... You're absolutely right! As far as I know, the do it yourself sustainer kits from Fernandes were costing around 45000 yen last time i checked. That's about $450 for us. Hell it almost will cost you that much to get a guitar with the sustainer from fernandes. Talk about a jip. Sincerely, Jeff Collins From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 15 21:32:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA16153; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:32:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:32:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C865F6.3C21@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:22:46 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EBow Guestlist Entry References: <002401be591a$d9de9f60$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> <8B57882C41A0D1118F7100805F9F68B50C8D8686@RED-MSG-45> <3.0.5.32.19990215193051.00890e30@tctc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JjETC3.0.fk3.3TDos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anybody try a sustainiac on a Chapman Stick or Warr or any other Stinged insttrument? Colin|niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 16 10:59:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA28135; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:59:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:59:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:33:03 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Good X-Sender: goodadam@quicklink Reply-To: Adam Good To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Fernandez Sustainer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"-6hLP2.0.FE6.O3Pos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I've only been subscribed to the list for a week so this may have been discussed. Can anyone tell me how this sustainer pickup works? I use an e-bow but find it very hard to control the volume without turning down my volume knob. poor people get their little ears BLASTED for 1 second if i get too close to the "hotspot". So the idea of a permanent pickup in my guitar is interesting. thanks for any info. email privately if you'd like. -- Adam Good goodadam@quicklink.com http://www.quicklink.com/~goodadam From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 16 12:26:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA10739; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:26:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:26:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:58:39 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: moving loop points?! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 230 Resent-Message-ID: <"Sj5iQ1.0.Ob1.3KQos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com last week i posted with some problems on my nextloop thing, well, kim, its working but now my loop start points are all over the place ive mess with the quantize and nothing, its almost as if its random too sometimes itll start from the begining and then sometimes, wherever itd like thanks in advance rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 16 13:56:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA31003; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:56:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:56:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:39:29 -0500 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: another newbie ! / Sustainerdiscussion Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: <199902161339_MC2-6AB2-155B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"EYM0d.0.407.FoRos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, everybody firstly, I'd like to say hello to all you guys at LD ! I'm a fan for quite a long time but its' just two weeks ago that I manage= d to jump on the net and yesterday I subscribed I'm a guitar pro from Germany, I've been working with loops since 1981 wh= en I first heard " LET THE POWER FALL " and got my first looping delay which was a Ibanez DM1100 with 3.6 secs Now, I'm working with Oberheim Echoplex and Paradis Loop Delay and I'm ju= st about to finish a solo CD with quiet ambient loopstuff called " STARSCAPES 1 - The Bright Zones ". I'm a close friend to Michael Peters and Markus Reuter with whom I had a little band called " Trio GitarriStick ". I met both of them 1991 on my first Guitar Craft Seminar wth Robert Fripp= in Switzerland. Since then I'm a Crafty and play the New Standard Tuning nearly exclusively. I'm a fan of David Torn and Steve Tibbetts - and I'd say I know a little about guitar= s, too. As Sustainers seem to be the toppic of the day, I'd like to post a little= bit on that: I've been using them since 1989 when I first met Alan Hoover at the " Frankfurt Musik Messe " ( a trade show, almost like NAMM ). I played with a harpist that time ( yes, the big thi= ng with strings ) and I was = looking for something that should give me long sustained notes at low volume. So I bought one, learned how = to install it and from that time it went in all that were my favourite guitars. After a short period of exploring and getting used to it, it became an important part of my expression and I still don't want to miss it. = Then, my first unit broke and I had to change to Fernandes Sustainers because Sustainiac had disappeared from the market place. Normally, I like to support small companies rather= than big ones, so I felt happy viewing Alan Hoover reentering the market some two years ago. I really admire him as an inventor and craftsman and that he managed to keep his head up fighting for his ideas, but I must sa= y, without wanting to offend him in any way, dealing with him often takes a looong time... = 15 months ago I began working on a custom electric guitar series called = " PAINTERS Series " I constructed together with Eduard Tueske, a fine luthi= er and builder of PHANTOM Guitars and Basses here in Cologne, Germany. I really put all the ideas and experience of 23 years of guitarplaying in= this guitar and it should have been out on the market last year. And of course, because it should be the ultimate guitar with ultimate playing comfort and sound flexibility it should have ( besides high-quality pickups and a piezo-trem with midi access ) a sustainer on it ! = Eduard also planned to make basses with sustainers but this is still the missing link. I've been exchanging emails with AH now for more than a yea= r, saw the rise and fall of the GA-5 system but there's still no sustainer I= can put my hands on. Maybe it's easier for you guys in the States ( if so= , please, let me know ! ). But again, I want to state my respect for Mr. Hoover and I'd like to send= him my best wishes hoping the delay problem will be solved. = Maybe, some more orders from us can do the trick ! = Okay, I think this may be enough for the first post... and there are some= tasty spaghetti waiting in the kitchen ! Greetings to all Leander PS.: If somebody is interested in specs of the PAINTERS Series Guitars or= PHANTOM Guitars and Basses, please, let me know or write to PHANTOM.GUITARS@okay.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 16 14:25:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA05158; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:25:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:25:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:40:10 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: moving loop points?! Resent-Message-ID: <"EBEtg3.0.247.7pRos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com check the echoplex FAQ: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ.html there is a whole section on multiple loops and loop switching, where your question is answered. As a hint, try using the SwitchQuant parameter..... kim At 8:58 AM -0800 2/16/99, Kriist@aol.com wrote: >last week i posted with some problems on my nextloop thing, >well, kim, its working but now my loop start points are all over the place > >ive mess with the quantize and nothing, its almost as if its random too >sometimes itll start from the begining and then sometimes, wherever itd like > >thanks in advance > >rodrigo ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 16 14:54:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA10362; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:54:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:54:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36C98450.32C1@baka.com> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:44:33 +0000 From: Frank Martinez Reply-To: lr@baka.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Great gear sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1MxRH1.0.2u1.vbSos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com PRO QUALITY GEAR FOR SALE!!!!!!! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 16 16:14:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA25771; Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:14:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:14:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:50:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990216143525.008b8d10@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:35:25 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Re: another newbie ! / Sustainerdiscussion Cc: PHANTOM.GUITARS@okay.net In-Reply-To: <199902161339_MC2-6AB2-155B@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"x5Uz4.0.qP5.4jTos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How do you like the Paradis Loop Delay? At 01:39 PM 2/16/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, everybody > >firstly, I'd like to say hello to all you guys at LD ! >I'm a fan for quite a long time but its' just two weeks ago that I managed >to jump on the net >and yesterday I subscribed > >I'm a guitar pro from Germany, I've been working with loops since 1981 when >I first heard >" LET THE POWER FALL " and got my first looping delay which was a Ibanez >DM1100 with 3.6 secs >Now, I'm working with Oberheim Echoplex and Paradis Loop Delay and I'm just >about to finish a >solo CD with quiet ambient loopstuff called " STARSCAPES 1 - The Bright >Zones ". >I'm a close friend to Michael Peters and Markus Reuter with whom I had a >little band called " Trio GitarriStick ". >I met both of them 1991 on my first Guitar Craft Seminar wth Robert Fripp >in Switzerland. Since then I'm a >Crafty and play the New Standard Tuning nearly exclusively. I'm a fan of >David Torn and Steve Tibbetts - and I'd say I know a little about guitars, >too. > >As Sustainers seem to be the toppic of the day, I'd like to post a little >bit on that: > >I've been using them since 1989 when I first met Alan Hoover at the " >Frankfurt Musik Messe " ( a trade show, >almost like NAMM ). I played with a harpist that time ( yes, the big thing >with strings ) and I was >looking for something that should give me long sustained notes at low >volume. So I bought one, learned how >to install it and from that time it went in all that were my favourite >guitars. After a short period of exploring and getting used to it, it >became an important part of my expression and I still don't want to miss >it. >Then, my first unit broke and I had to change to Fernandes Sustainers >because Sustainiac had disappeared >from the market place. Normally, I like to support small companies rather >than big ones, so I felt happy viewing Alan Hoover reentering the market >some two years ago. I really admire him as an inventor and craftsman and >that he managed to keep his head up fighting for his ideas, but I must say, >without wanting to offend him in any way, dealing with him often takes a >looong time... >15 months ago I began working on a custom electric guitar series called " >PAINTERS Series " I constructed together with Eduard Tueske, a fine luthier >and builder of PHANTOM Guitars and Basses here in Cologne, Germany. >I really put all the ideas and experience of 23 years of guitarplaying in >this guitar and it should have been out on the market last year. >And of course, because it should be the ultimate guitar with ultimate >playing comfort and sound flexibility >it should have ( besides high-quality pickups and a piezo-trem with midi >access ) a sustainer on it ! >Eduard also planned to make basses with sustainers but this is still the >missing link. I've been exchanging emails with AH now for more than a year, >saw the rise and fall of the GA-5 system but there's still no sustainer I >can put my hands on. Maybe it's easier for you guys in the States ( if so, >please, let me know ! ). >But again, I want to state my respect for Mr. Hoover and I'd like to send >him my best wishes hoping the delay problem will be solved. >Maybe, some more orders from us can do the trick ! > >Okay, I think this may be enough for the first post... and there are some >tasty spaghetti waiting in the kitchen ! > >Greetings to all > >Leander > >PS.: If somebody is interested in specs of the PAINTERS Series Guitars or >PHANTOM Guitars and Basses, please, let me know or write to >PHANTOM.GUITARS@okay.net > > > ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 01:09:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA02965; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:09:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:09:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 00:59:18 -0500 (EST) From: Dark Aether Project X-Sender: info@red To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Dark Aether Project CD release multimedia event 3/13 in Washington DC area Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"H6moR1.0.jZ.klbos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Saturday, March 13th, Phantasmagoria in Wheaton, MD will host a multimedia event rarely seen outside of huge stadiums. The Dark Aether Project will perform in support of their brand new second CD _Feed The Silence_ accompanied by special guests German Warr Guitarist Markus Reuter of the Europa String Choir (who also appears on the album) and space-jam improv greats Quarkspace. This event also marks former Echolyn vocalist Ray Weston's first performance as a full member of The Dark Aether Project since joining just prior to the recording of the new album. Accompanying the music will be the spectacular visual work of the Ohio-based Solar Fire Lightshow and their multi-projection liquid light & film systems with multi-colored strobes, black lights, smoke, beams and other amazing visual effects which have made them one of the premier US lightshow outfits and the choice of visiting foreign space rock forefathers like Hawkwind and Gong. Showtime is 9pm and admission price is $10 The Dark Aether Project is: Adam Levin: Warr 8 String Touch Guitar/Keyboards/Loops Yaman Aksu: Guitar/Hammond Organ Brian Griffin: Drums/Percussion Ray Weston: Vocals What reviewers are saying about The Dark Aether Project: "...jazz-inflected, often minimalistic...foreboding soundscapes...classy ...offers mature musicianship without pretentiousness" - Progression "..intense and blistering lead work...amazing loops and shimmering textures that are at once haunting and dreamlike...worthy of attention." - Expose "...delivers what the demanding progressive rock fan wants: a unique and original product, dexterity, a sharp musical flair and the ability to play with the listener's emotions." - Cyclone Magazine (Quebec) The Dark Aether Project: http://www.DarkAether.Net/ Markus Reuter/Europa String Choir: http://www.dscplne.demon.co.uk/ Quarkspace: http://www.quarkspace.com/ Solar Fire Lightshow: http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/ Other upcoming Dark Aether Project performances: 3/20 William E Hare American Legion Hall - Lansdale PA 9/4-5 The 5th annual Progday Outdoor International progressive music festival in Chapel Hill NC with acts including Thinking Plague (US), Tribe of Cro (Belgium), NeBeLNeST (France), Equinox (Panama) and more to be announced. More concert dates will be announced in coming weeks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Directions to Phantasmagoria: Take Washington DC Beltway (495) toward Silver Spring. Exit at Rt 97 (Georgia Ave) North towards Wheaton Go 2-3 miles on Georgia, keeping to the right Turn right on University Blvd (after Safeway) Take first right onto Elkin. Phantasmagoria is on the left at 11319 Phantasmagoria is a hall with a capacity of 400 with tables around the room and a dance floor area in front of the stage. They serve homemade tex-mex food (including veggie friendly stuff) and a wide variety of microbrews on tap. It's an all ages venue (21 to drink) with a record store that is open during the day prior to showtime. Phantasmagoria is an artist and music fan-friendly venue, so please come out and show your support. In addition to the above mentioned show, here's a couple of other upcoming Phantasmagoria shows which may interest fans of music which pushes beyond the boundaries of the ordinary: 3/20 Richard Pinhas (of the classic French band Heldon) 5/26 Magma (France)/Porcupine Tree (England) - to be confirmed From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 01:59:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA08635; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:59:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 01:59:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE5A4A.AC32E950.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: another newbie ! / Sustainerdiscussion Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 23:07:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"d6yUo1.0.ry1.lTcos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Hi, everybody hi Leander, nice to have you here. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 09:40:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA19008; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:40:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:40:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401be5a81$f6bcc540$c896adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Waldorf 4 Pole filter on eBay Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:29:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"z71on3.0.Cf.Q5jos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just got one of these aural warp machines myself a couple of days ago--remember the thread on these . . . Love mine to death already--small and powerful filter with great control of parameters, LFO with 5 waveforms, envelope follower, 40 presets (20 are user-definable) MIDI and envelope follower this one is $200 and rising . . . retail is about $450--5 hours to go http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=65779276 Tom Lambrecht hideo@concentric.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 10:17:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA24076; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:17:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 10:17:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CA92DF.2CBE@baka.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:58:55 +0000 From: Frank Martinez Reply-To: lr@baka.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Revision to "Massive Gear Sale" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"onoiN.0.MM5.xcjos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lexicon PCM 70 version 3 software-$1000.00 firm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 14:21:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA04309; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:21:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:21:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:58:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990217125253.008a6d00@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:52:53 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: INFINITE GUITAR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"uiDjA2.0.k9.y9nos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What about the INFINITE GUITAR?. here is a web site that talks about it : http://www.dns.net/eyesore/html/interview/BrookMichael.AlbinoAlligatorFilm.p ress.html Do a search for infinite and it should take your to the proper text. ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 14:22:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA04369; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:22:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:22:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:58:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990217125915.008b2ce0@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:59:15 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Jam-Man on e-bay closed at $700.00 !?!?!?!?!? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"W7cJl2.0.3A.3Anos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lexicon JamMan Looping Delay Item #65093304 Bidding is closed for this item. Currently $700.00 (reserve met) First bid $100.00 Quantity 1 # of bids 21 (bid history) (with emails) Time left Auction has ended. Location Peoria, IL Started 02/08/99 13:18:11 PST (mail this auction to a friend) Ends 02/15/99 13:18:11 PST (request a gift alert) Seller erwill (0) High bid marzmusic@aol.com (0) ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 14:58:18 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA11433; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:58:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:58:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CB1BCD.6D6E5AC2@uswest.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:43:09 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: EDP newbie question. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lTcL11.0.ZB2.hpnos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi- I received my new EDP late last week, and am really enjoying myself. Last night was my first available night to do extended work with it, and I encountered one bothersome thing, and I'm not sure if that's the nature of the beast or a problem with my unit... I create myself a nice loop, am pretty satisfied with it, and let it run for awhile... The problem is that the audio output of the loop slowly diminishes, as if the memory of the loop in the unit slowly evaporates, or leaks out. So, if I create a loop and let it run without adding to it, over the course of 5-10 minutes, all audible traces of the loop have vanished, leaving me with amplifier hiss, only. I'll have to admit, sometimes this would be nice to have some user-input in.... A little feature to have the loop slowly die away or perhaps increase in intensity, or remain the same. Having the loop slowly fade is peaceful-sounding, but may NOT be what i WANT! My setup (for now) is pretty simple and I think has no effect on the above problem, but I include it to lay out the full range of possible problems: Instruments: Various Saxes, Tabla, Yamaha WX7 Wind-Controller,Wavestation A/D, Yamaha VL1-m. All MIDI sound modules driven thru a Sondius MIDI A/B Switcher. All modules go directly to the mixer: Mackie VLZ-1402 directly into: Lexicon MPX100, and then EDP and then to amp (no AUX SEND back to mixer, at the moment) I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback on this, other than that, I love the thing! I respect the opinions of those on this list... Regards, Jim Lanpheer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 15:12:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA15002; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:12:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:12:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:49:37 -0800 Message-ID: <00193A19.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: Jam-Man for $700.00!!! Plus an EDP query... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Chuck Zwicky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"P_MW62.0.U13.G1oos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Lexicon JamMan Looping Delay > Item #65093304 > Bidding is closed for this item. > Currently $700.00 (reserve met) First bid $100.00 WOW!!! And I thought $450.00 was high... That's what mine sold for within an hour of posting it. Now I'm ready to buy an EDP! One question... Would all of you who have already purchased and received (or are still waiting) your EDP's through Alto Music please reply with a quick summary of how long it took you to get your unit and the condition it arrived in? Best regards, -Miko Biffle From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 15:14:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA15612; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:14:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:14:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36A24095.E8CADC34@usa.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:57:09 +0100 From: "Arnaud D@S" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Help ! I need somebody ! Help ! (on ADA MP1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Sk9RZ2.0.iC3.24oos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I'm a recent owner of an ADA MP-1 (the first model, NOT the classic one)which was a second hand. And of course,the manual was missing. It would be very coool if you could "e-mail" me a copy of this manual (scan or an other support) or if you know an address on the Internet where I can find it. Futhermore, I'm just beginning in "killer sound seeking". I would be grateful you for communicate me some of your great preset (OD1 OD2 MG B M T P Voicing). I would like to find a very "big" sound for heavy metal (Megadeth, Pantera,...) A last question : I heard somebody talking about MIDI possibilities (send new patch directly in the RAM of the MP1). Could you give me more info ? I really thank you in advance, hoping you will be able to take few minutes to answer my deseperate message. Thanks. -- _______________________________________________________ Arnaud. E-mail : epytaph@usa.net Epytaph : http://www.chez.com/epytaph/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 15:30:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA20319; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:30:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:30:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990217201729.29888.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [204.74.108.76] From: "Joseph Buck" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: So where are we? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:17:29 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"rMoxI2.0.gQ4.CKoos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hola Groovers- So this is kinda of a checking of the winds if you will.... seeing where the community is, etc... The Headrush is exciting news, this list in no uncertain terms has redefined the palette of sonic manufacturers. But- we were told about a DOD long delay pedal as well... and the rerelease of the EH 16 sec delay... However my money is still on Akai to deliver... Gibson and related stuff is a mess. Questionable marketing, questionable delivery of goods (no ram in many units, destroyed boxes, broken faceplates), and a shifting corporation. Why do I care so much? The promise of the EDP is great. It is a deep and wonderful machine in spite of all the nonsense. I find myself listening to less music.... What has crossed my drums in the past months has been- Tortoise, Don Caballero "What Burns Never Returns", Dark Magus et al by Miles, Thomas Koner, Barry White, Talk Talk's "Spirit Of Eden", John Cale, Marvin Gaye, Takemitsu.... Nevertheless I am wooed again by the printed word... I am being asked to do more visual arts then sound stuff at the moment.... so there ya go. thoughts? selam, Buck ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 15:43:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA23026; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:43:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:43:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CB2673.73E757E8@uswest.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:28:35 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: [Fwd: EDP newbie question.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1A65084A418C893A0D356CB6" Resent-Message-ID: <"zl60n1.0.l75.FUoos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1A65084A418C893A0D356CB6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a simple private response "to set the feedback level to 100%". This IS how I have it set up and still have the problem, and forgot to include this bit of info in my plea for input. I'd be interested in any and all other ideas.... Thanks, Jim Lanpheer --------------1A65084A418C893A0D356CB6 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from egate3.mnet.uswest.com ([151.119.114.51]) by netmail5.uswc.uswest.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.52) with ESMTP id AAA1720 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:56:37 -0700 Received: from uswgne6.uswc.uswest.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by egate3.mnet.uswest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01496 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:56:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from rosy.yourwebhost.com (rosy.yourwebhost.com [209.239.39.1]) by uswgne6.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13484 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:57:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA11433; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:58:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:58:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CB1BCD.6D6E5AC2@uswest.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:43:09 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: EDP newbie question. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lTcL11.0.ZB2.hpnos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi- I received my new EDP late last week, and am really enjoying myself. Last night was my first available night to do extended work with it, and I encountered one bothersome thing, and I'm not sure if that's the nature of the beast or a problem with my unit... I create myself a nice loop, am pretty satisfied with it, and let it run for awhile... The problem is that the audio output of the loop slowly diminishes, as if the memory of the loop in the unit slowly evaporates, or leaks out. So, if I create a loop and let it run without adding to it, over the course of 5-10 minutes, all audible traces of the loop have vanished, leaving me with amplifier hiss, only. I'll have to admit, sometimes this would be nice to have some user-input in.... A little feature to have the loop slowly die away or perhaps increase in intensity, or remain the same. Having the loop slowly fade is peaceful-sounding, but may NOT be what i WANT! My setup (for now) is pretty simple and I think has no effect on the above problem, but I include it to lay out the full range of possible problems: Instruments: Various Saxes, Tabla, Yamaha WX7 Wind-Controller,Wavestation A/D, Yamaha VL1-m. All MIDI sound modules driven thru a Sondius MIDI A/B Switcher. All modules go directly to the mixer: Mackie VLZ-1402 directly into: Lexicon MPX100, and then EDP and then to amp (no AUX SEND back to mixer, at the moment) I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback on this, other than that, I love the thing! I respect the opinions of those on this list... Regards, Jim Lanpheer --------------1A65084A418C893A0D356CB6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 15:52:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA24987; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:52:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:52:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Help ! I need somebody ! Help ! (on ADA MP1) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:42:13 -0800 Message-ID: <002001be5ab5$ff9a3830$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <36A24095.E8CADC34@usa.net> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"JbM8_3.0.4h5.ieoos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > Futhermore, I'm just beginning in "killer sound seeking". I would be > grateful you for communicate me some of your great preset (OD1 OD2 MG > B M T P Voicing). > I would like to find a very "big" sound for heavy metal (Megadeth, > Pantera,...) Not to be too negative, but I think you will have trouble getting the sounds you are looking for with this unit alone. However, you may be >very< pleased with your sound if you use it in conjunction with a BBE sonic maximizer and a good eq. Mart Friedman was swearing by the BBE, last time I checked, and a good graphic eq will make an ok preamp a total screamer. I'll never record another heavy guitar track without both of them in the stream. This is another $200 or so :< but I guarantee that it will make all the difference in the world. You might also want to try using it in conjunction with other distortions you have lying around. Just my opinion, of course. Good luck. bIz > > A last question : I heard somebody talking about MIDI possibilities > (send new patch directly in the RAM of the MP1). Could you give me more > info ? > > I really thank you in advance, hoping you will be able to take few > minutes to answer my deseperate message. > > Thanks. > -- > _______________________________________________________ > Arnaud. > E-mail : epytaph@usa.net > Epytaph : http://www.chez.com/epytaph/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 16:03:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27630; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:03:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:03:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990217125443.012dcd50@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:54:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: [Fwd: EDP newbie question.] In-Reply-To: <36CB2673.73E757E8@uswest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"xpdin3.0.fN6.gqoos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just some ideas: If you are using overdub mode, switch out even if the input is 'silent'. Does the problem happen regardless of Delay/Loop mode? At 01:28 PM 2/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >I just got a simple private response "to set the feedback level to >100%". This IS how I have it set up and still have the problem, and >forgot to include this bit of info in my plea for input. I'd be >interested in any and all other ideas.... > >Thanks, >Jim Lanpheer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 16:04:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27818; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:04:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:04:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 12:43:40 -0800 Message-ID: <00193B17.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: So where are we? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, "Joseph Buck" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"voaPf.0.J96.Inoos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Author: "Joseph Buck" at INTERNET > ... Gibson and related stuff is a mess. Questionable marketing, questionable > delivery of goods (no ram in many units, destroyed boxes, broken faceplates), > and a shifting corporation. Why do I care so much? The promise of the EDP is > great. It is a deep and wonderful machine in spite of all the nonsense. Which brings me to this follow up on my request for summaries of EDP purchaser's experiences... I was on the phone today with (someone who shall remain nameless) at a very respectable west coast bay area dealer discussing EDP price and availability and he said this... "We've got 6 units on order and they should arrive this week or next at the latest... IT WILL BE HARD TO GET EDP'S AFTER THAT BECAUSE GIBSON IS MOVING THE FACTORY." He also said all their units thus far had Oberheim on them and they've received no Electra units. He didn't know about that change. I'm going to the LD list archive to dig up the Gibson contact person and email or call them to get some real answer, but this does not sound good to someone who just sold a pile of gear (including my JamMan) in order to purchase an EDP... I you have that contact info please let me know. best, Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 16:07:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA28532; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:07:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:07:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <36CB2D27.9D7@mdbs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:57:11 -0500 From: "Dennis W. Leas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP newbie question. References: <36CB1BCD.6D6E5AC2@uswest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SPiy23.0.XM6.Pqoos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com James Lanpheer wrote: > I encountered one bothersome thing, and I'm not sure if that's the > nature of the beast or a problem with my unit... > > I create myself a nice loop, am pretty satisfied with it, and let it run > for awhile... The problem is that the audio output of the loop slowly > diminishes, as if the memory of the loop in the unit slowly evaporates, > or leaks out. Hi, James! I'd check the "FEEDBACK" knob and make sure it is fully clockwise. Are you using a footpedal for feedback control? Sometimes I set feedback at less than 100% to do an automated fade-out kind of thing. Sometimes I forget to set it back afterwards. Sometimes I'm embarassed during my next song when my loop unexpectedly decays. Fortunately, I learn quickly. :) So you play tabla? It's my latest mania. How do you use tabla in your loops? - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 16:32:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA01659; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:32:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:32:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: So where are we? Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 13:16:28 -0800 Message-ID: <002701be5aba$c8a13ea0$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00193B17.C21407@wj.com> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"yOOzN2.0.lf7.q8pos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I'm going to the LD list archive to dig up the Gibson contact > person and email > or call them to get some real answer, but this does not sound > good to someone > who just sold a pile of gear (including my JamMan) in order to > purchase an > EDP... I you have that contact info please let me know. > > best, > Miko > YESYESYES Let us know please!! bIz > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 16:55:59 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA06090; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:55:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:55:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: pcamann@csc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CSC To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com cc: prcamann@aol.com Message-ID: <8525671B.0076E73F.00@cscmail.csc.com> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:43:09 -0500 Subject: RDS3.6 schematics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"BYZ9c.0.9E1.Hcpos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have a Digitech RDS3.6 DIgital Delay System (I would guess "mid-period", based on other posts I've seen in the archives) which has decided to start generating its own sounds and ignoring my input signals. Does anyone on the list have a schematic for this beast they'd like to share? Thanks in advance for any help, Paul Camann (please reply to prcamann@aol.com) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 16:58:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA06590; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:58:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:58:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE5A95.035854A0.andy@harmonixmusic.com> From: andy@harmonixmusic.com (Andy McGraw) To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: and it was only $550 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 16:46:05 -0500 Organization: Harmonix Music Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4128 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2vtNF3.0.iF1.-cpos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have to say what an awesome piece of equipment the new Echoplex is. A bass player friend and myself have gotten one each and have them brother linked. My rig includes A LOT of percussion (marimbas, gamelan instruments, drum-set etc. drumKat) and his includes guitars, basses, Moog Tarus, casio keyboards... We run lives mics and inputs through a Mackie 1404 board and into the echoplexes (echolpy?). We then run the echolpexes back through The board and into monitors, main, and a portable DAT. We are only scratching the surface of what is possible with this arrangement. If anyone is interested I have posted some mp3's of this last weekend's jam on the net: ftp://ftp2.harmonixmusic.com/mp3 These are LIVE recordings with just the two of us (!) Pretty soon it will be possible to create music completely devoid of any human contact.... Andy McGraw Harmonix Music Systems, INC. Cambridge, MA www.harmonixmusic.com andy@harmonixmusic.com 617.491.6144 ext. 105 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan El-Bizri [SMTP:jonathan@full-moon.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 4:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: So where are we? > I'm going to the LD list archive to dig up the Gibson contact > person and email > or call them to get some real answer, but this does not sound > good to someone > who just sold a pile of gear (including my JamMan) in order to > purchase an > EDP... I you have that contact info please let me know. > > best, > Miko > YESYESYES Let us know please!! bIz > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 17:43:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA15178; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:43:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:43:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000701be5ac6$1374d1c0$578242d8@soo> From: "sooh" To: Subject: Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 14:37:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5A83.016403E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"0G5PJ.0.1U3.pJqos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5A83.016403E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable help i am looking for an obreheim digital echoplex really badly. I'm in = canada and gibson up here is useless! could anyone help thanx sean vancesean@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5A83.016403E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
help i am looking for an obreheim = digital=20 echoplex really badly. I'm in canada and gibson up here is useless! = could anyone=20 help
thanx sean
vancesean@hotmail.com
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE5A83.016403E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 18:42:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA13783; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:08:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 15:08:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990217115706.012e2d10@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 11:57:06 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: EDP newbie question. In-Reply-To: <36CB1BCD.6D6E5AC2@uswest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"5iuxy1.0.Lr2.c-nos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:43 PM 2/17/99 -0700, you wrote: >I create myself a nice loop, am pretty satisfied with it, and let it run >for awhile... The problem is that the audio output of the loop slowly >diminishes, as if the memory of the loop in the unit slowly evaporates, >or leaks out. So, if I create a loop and let it run without adding to >it, over the course of 5-10 minutes, all audible traces of the loop have >vanished, leaving me with amplifier hiss, only. ... > > >I'd really appreciate anyone's feedback on this, other than that, I love ^^^^^^^^^ Check your feedback knob. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 19:55:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA18037; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:55:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:55:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001801be5ad7$a31ce180$691f6ccb@luciputer> From: "Jack and Luci" To: Subject: Re: EDP newbie question. Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:42:56 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"rMh_C1.0.V34.ZDsos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The problem is that the audio output of the loop slowly >>diminishes, as if the memory of the loop in the unit slowly evaporates, >>or leaks out. So, if I create a loop and let it run without adding to >>it, over the course of 5-10 minutes, all audible traces of the loop have >>vanished, leaving me with amplifier hiss, only. >>>Check your feedback knob. ......and make sure you turn "overdub" off when your not recording anything.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 22:07:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA06985; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:07:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:07:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990218025750.00e9943c@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:57:50 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Help ! I need somebody ! Help ! (on ADA MP1) Resent-Message-ID: <"Xkrts3.0.fV1.HBuos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 08:57 PM 1/17/99 +0100, you wrote: >Hi, >I'm a recent owner of an ADA MP-1 (the first model, NOT the classic >Futhermore, I'm just beginning in "killer sound seeking". I would be >grateful you for communicate me some of your great preset (OD1 OD2 MG >B M T P Voicing). >I would like to find a very "big" sound for heavy metal (Megadeth, >Pantera,...) I think the MP-1 sounds great when you whack it with a sledge hammer. Chain-sawing the MP-1 is another fave. When combined with a vintage ART effects unit, I'd highly recommend the sound of it being crushed under a heavy boulder. All great metal sounds. don't forget to press record..... sorry. ;-) kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 23:17:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18276; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:17:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:17:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:02:17 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Jam-Man on e-bay closed at $700.00 !?!?!?!?!? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"37UW_2.0.-34.49vos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/17/99 1:17:48 PM, chuck.zwicky@wavefront.com writes: >High bid marzmusic@aol.com Hmmm......this wasn't me, but I sometimes go as Marzzz Music! Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 17 23:17:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA18366; Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:17:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:17:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:03:16 -0500 (EST) From: CHRISTOPHER T SPROUL Subject: creative loop ideas To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@annihilist.com Message-id: <01J7V809XQ7696WGF6@MAIL.CLARION.EDU> X-VMS-To: LOOPERS-DELIGHT@ANNIHILIST.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"JYnfx.0.p44.B9vos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello All, I just wanted to share with everyone an interesting loop idea. You start out with a simple two or three chord progression. Use a clean tone with a harmonizer effect and simply pick out or arpeggiate the chords however you want. Record that on to your looping device - and then have the machine spit it out backwards. As someone mentioned earlier-the Boomerang Phrase Sampler produces an excellent backwards guitar effect. The end result will be some eerie organ like patch-very bizarre sounding. I don't know, this might be elementary stuff to most of you out there-but I think it creates a very interesting wall of sound. By the Way - That Dark Aether Project sounds like somethin else. We'll be doing whatever we can to get to that one in March. peace From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 01:15:50 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA01844; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:15:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:15:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "James Ko" To: Subject: Re: EDP survey Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:59:57 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0b6c95055051229CPIMSSMTPU08@email.msn.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"BIaED3.0.K-7.Wowos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi All. I got my EDP about a week ago and I think I ordered it about a month before that. I was not an original group buyer but I signed up for one (including the footswitch) of the "extras" that John at Alto Music had ordered. He called me up to verify my apartment number and I received the unit the next day. Because of unavoidable time constraints, I have not been able to fully try out the unit but the exterior looks good. It did not come in the same type of box that my other, older, EPD came in but the manual was the same (down to the inaccurate statement of having only 12.5 sec. of looping time. I guess they never updated the manual when they updated the units to 50 secs). By the way, I also heard of the factory switch and the unavailablity of future EPDs for several months. My first EPD, which was purchased about 6 months ago, appeared to have been used when I purchased it. The salesman told me to return it to him and he would exchange it with Gibson for a new unit. That afternoon he called me to inform me of the factory change information he recieved from Gibson. According to them, no more EDPs were going to be sent out for a while. Maybe John at Alto has more "extra" EPDs for sale for others on this list? The price is unbeatable! Jim Ko > > One question... Would all of you who have already purchased and > received (or are still waiting) your EDP's through Alto Music please > reply with a quick summary of how long it took you to get your unit > and the condition it arrived in? > > Best regards, > -Miko Biffle > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 01:15:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA01847; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:15:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:15:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990218005719.007ad7a0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:57:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: Re: happy99 worm In-Reply-To: <199902140809.DAA31428@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"gS9Cb3.0.I2.xpwos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >If you did'nt see the fireworks display and just recieved a file of >giberish does that mean you were not infected? ... >page that wouldnt let me do anything.....help......i did not see the "fire- >works" when i d/l this happy exe.....now im freakin.....im afraid to shut >down my puter......all this and no vallium.....michael ... Just like with all "virus" kind programs, just downloading it or looking at the uuencoded file won't infect you, just the same as reading a message with the title "join the crew" won't infect you. You have to actually run the program. So if you haven't run happy99.exe, delete it and don't worry. In fact, as a general rule, don't run programs if you don't know what they are and you'll be safe. If people did that, this program wouldn't have gotten out. Actually, happy99 isn't a virus. It doesn't attach itself to other programs. It's just a self-contained program that knows how to use the lamest thing invented by microsoft, the windows registry, and human naivete, to its advantage. In its own way, it's an elegant little idea. I wonder if internet musicians might use the idea to spread their music-- someone gets an exe that plays incredible (looping, natch) music, and then sends itself on, without waiting for word of mouth. -- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 03:09:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA17338; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:09:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:09:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CBC83A.6B99@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:58:51 -0800 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP survey References: <0b6c95055051229CPIMSSMTPU08@email.msn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Skavo3.0.F93.CMyos"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It took about 3 months. when it arrived it wasn't working,a couple of connections had come loose and needed to be soldered.(35$)Gibson told me they were 3 months behind.But,Jon at Alto told me 2 weeks when I got bit by the stereo bug after my 1st was running.:-) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 05:14:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA32468; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:14:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:14:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00193B17.C21407@wj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:54:51 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"LL9jo2.0.ph7.WN-os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For the people wondering how to contact Gibson for echoplex info, you want Mike Ayers . Here's a bunch of phone numbers to try: 877-623-7434, 800-777-0795 x382, (615) 871-4500 x382. use the last one if you're not in the US. At 12:43 PM -0800 2/17/99, Mike Biffle wrote: >"We've got 6 units on order and they should arrive this week or next at the >latest... IT WILL BE HARD TO GET EDP'S AFTER THAT BECAUSE GIBSON IS MOVING >THE >FACTORY." I think they moved the factory a month or so ago. That's been done for a while, and didn't really screw things up. I haven't heard that they were planning another move, but if they are the people involved are pretty competent and will likely manage it fine. (like they did last time....) This guy's probably working off old news. Gibson got a bit behind there because echoplex orders went way up, hence the long echoplex waiting periods lately. Seems like they're getting caught up now, though. >He also said all their units thus far had Oberheim on them and they've >received >no Electra units. He didn't know about that change. I don't think they've decided what the new brand name is going to be yet. At this point, I'm guessing "Electar" is not it, but I don't know. I say we start up a "guess the name" betting pool. I'll put a fiver on "opcode echoplex". kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 05:18:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA00237; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:18:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 05:18:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525671B.0076E73F.00@cscmail.csc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:56:16 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: RDS3.6 schematics Cc: prcamann@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <"PFhRh3.0.4i7.ZN-os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If anybody actually does have this, I'd also like a copy for the LD website..... kim At 1:43 PM -0800 2/17/99, pcamann@csc.com wrote: >I have a Digitech RDS3.6 DIgital Delay System (I would guess "mid-period", >based on other posts I've seen in the archives) which has decided to start >generating its own sounds and ignoring my input signals. Does anyone on >the list have a schematic for this beast they'd like to share? > >Thanks in advance for any help, > >Paul Camann >(please reply to prcamann@aol.com) ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 07:04:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA11735; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:04:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:04:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 06:20:06 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Re: EDP survey Resent-Message-ID: <"eCATB3.0.ce2.Y__os"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was part of the first EDP group by with Alto. My unit arrived quickly without a blemish and working fine. I've been investigating the subtle qualities of this baby in the last two weeks and still all is fine. My partner Steev was part of the second buy and did receive a unit with a bent rack ear. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 07:21:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA13879; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:21:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:21:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990218071123.007a3a60@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 07:11:23 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: HAPPY99 Diagnosis & Removal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"5ABqM3.0._73.fE0ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This info may be redundant, or possibly redundant, but I thought I'd pass it along. I have no idea who wrote these instructions originally, so I don't know if I trust it; suspicion, paranoia, I feel like Mulder... It might be helpful if one of you on the list who's better versed in DOS than I am could look the enclosed instructions over to confirm that I'm actually passing along good information and not just clouding the water... The thing I'm leery of is how we've been warned by other postings not to restart without taking care of the problem first, while the first thing this one tells us to do is to restart in DOS mode... So a short reply to the list from someone who would know better than I either confirming the instructions or sounding the BS alarm would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim BTW, I never saw any fireworks either, just a bunch of gibberish, and didn't see or open any attachments, and I have restarted successfully several times since the scare, so I'm pretty sure I'm all set, but would still appreciate if one of you could give the omini-domini to the removal instructions... ------------------------------------- >This one is for real. I haven't seen this e-mail, but they tend to go >>around for a long time. You may want to make a note of the name for future >>reference. Hopefully we won't ever see it. >> >>The virus, HAPPY99.EXE can not infect your computer unless you actually >>run/execute the program! The program, happy99.exe would have come attached >>to an EMAIL. If you double clicked on happy.exe, you would then see >>fireworks. >>If you did not get the program happy99.exe attached to an email, or you >>didn't execute the program if you did receive it, then you are NOT infected >>with the virus!! >>If you did execute the program, you have the virus and are passing it along >>to others! >>Here are instructions for removing this virus: >>Click Start, then Shut Down, then "Restart Computer in MS-DOS mode", then >>click Yes. It's important to do this so you can make the necessary changes. >>At the DOS prompt type this exactly and press enter at the end of each line: >>CD \WINDOWS\SYSTEM >>If that doesn't work, try >>CD SYSTEM >>Delete SKA.EXE and SKA.DLL by typing >>DEL SKA.EXE >>DEL SKA.DLL >>If you get "File not found" you're either not infected or in the wrong >>directory. Make sure you're in your Windows System directory; check to see >>if you followed step 2 exactly. >>Copy WSOCK32.SKA to WSOCK32.DLL by typing >>COPY WSOCK32.SKA WSOCK32.DLL >>Answer "Yes" if it asks if you want to overwrite WSOCK32.DLL. Explanation: >>WSOCK32.SKA is a backup of the original WSOCK32.DLL made by the virus. You >>are replacing the modified DLL with the original. Delete WSOCK32.SKA by >>typing >>DEL WSOCK32.SKA Do not delete WSOCK32.SKA if you are unable to replace >>WSOCK32.DLL with WSOCK32.SKA. >>Return to Windows by typing >>EXIT >>Optional: Choose Start, Programs, Accessories, Notepad, choose File, then >>Open then type C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LISTE.SKA in the File Name box. Warn the >>people on the list, then delete LISTE.SKA >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 11:50:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA23601; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:50:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:50:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:24:38 -0800 Message-ID: <001946FC.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: So where are we? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Kim Flint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"-JOu43.0.7-4.Z34ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for the EDP contact info Kim! I got a callback from Mike. We're going to talk today... I'll report the latest relevant info. Kim states... > I don't think they've decided what the new brand name is going to be yet. At > this point, I'm guessing "Electar" is not it, but I don't know. I say we start > up a "guess the name" betting pool. I'll put a fiver on "opcode echoplex". Hmmm... Opcode Echoplex? I guess since they bought Opcode they may as well add a nice high tech hardware looper to their roster. Can't wait to get one, whatever they call it! BTW: Regarding Klein guitars... I've had the opportunity to play one and you're right. Once your body holds one, it's hard to forget the ease of position and playability of them. I keep looking at those Klein pictures at their site and I can just feel my credit cards twitching in my back pocket! best regards, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 12:53:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA02345; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:53:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:53:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01d901be5b67$5e2e3c00$c5b854ce@mark.asisoftware.com> From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Off Topic - Help Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:51:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"VzrD12.0.sD.r65ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com If anyone knows the whereabouts of Bruce Barr, effects archivist at Sound Barrier Music and www.soundsfuzzy.com, in the Chatanoga, TN, area, please e-mail me privately. Thanks, Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 14:48:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA25525; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:48:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:48:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001946FC.C21407@wj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:31:18 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re[2]: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"7T50J.0.RU5.9l6ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:24 AM -0800 2/18/99, Mike Biffle wrote: >Thanks for the EDP contact info Kim! I got a callback from Mike. We're >going to >talk today... I'll report the latest relevant info. > >Kim states... >> I don't think they've decided what the new brand name is going to be >>yet. At >> this point, I'm guessing "Electar" is not it, but I don't know. I say we >>start >> up a "guess the name" betting pool. I'll put a fiver on "opcode echoplex". > >Hmmm... Opcode Echoplex? I guess since they bought Opcode they may as well >add a >nice high tech hardware looper to their roster. Can't wait to get one, >whatever >they call it! well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have some creative entries.... >BTW: Regarding Klein guitars... I've had the opportunity to play one and >you're >right. Once your body holds one, it's hard to forget the ease of position and >playability of them. I keep looking at those Klein pictures at their site >and I >can just feel my credit cards twitching in my back pocket! They've got you now! although, I don't think Lorenzo takes credit cards. But I guess you could use one of the quasi-checks they send you with the credit card statement. listen to your body, it's whispering: "buy me a Klein....buy me a Klein....buy me a Klein...." kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 15:21:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA31918; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:21:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:21:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:59:39 -0800 Message-ID: <00194B55.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[3]: So where are we? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Kim Flint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"yy-NE.0.pB7.EC7ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have some > creative entries.... OK! OK!.. Let's see if they call it the Flatiron Flashback... >> BTW: Regarding Klein guitars... I've had the opportunity to play one and >> you're right. Once your body holds one, it's hard to forget the ease of >> position and playability of them. I keep looking at those Klein pictures at >> their site and I can just feel my credit cards twitching in my back pocket! > They've got you now! although, I don't think Lorenzo takes credit cards. But > I guess you could use one of the quasi-checks they send you with the credit > card statement. listen to your body, it's whispering: "buy me a Klein....buy > me a Klein....buy me a Klein...." > kim Hmmmm... maybe time to re-fi the house. Can anybody float me a loan? best, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 15:32:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA01507; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:32:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:32:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990218151857.007b0d10@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:18:57 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? In-Reply-To: References: <001946FC.C21407@wj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"VmfFZ1.0.N1.UT7ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>BTW: Regarding Klein guitars... I've had the opportunity to play one and >>you're >>right. Once your body holds one, it's hard to forget the ease of position and >>playability of them. I keep looking at those Klein pictures at their site >>and I >>can just feel my credit cards twitching in my back pocket! > >They've got you now! although, I don't think Lorenzo takes credit cards. just give in. resistance is futile. m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 15:39:01 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA02657; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:39:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:39:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CC06EF.498C@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:26:23 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: [Fwd: Anybody driving up from So. Ca.] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CJNmT1.0.jE.-W7ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Colin Jenkinson wrote: > > Anybody attending the crafty tapping semminar in Seatle planning on > driving up from southern California? If so, are you interested in > car-pooling? > > Colin Jenkinson|nosnikneJ niloC > > "I,m deppressed. It's almost the new Millinium and I haven't found the > right cult yet." From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 16:06:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA07771; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:06:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:06:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902182056.PAA05886@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 12:53:15 -0800 x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Matt Peterson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"Sy4BX.0.IS1.6w7ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com how about "the Ghost of Jimi" 2/18/99 11:31 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: >well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have some >creative entries.... Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 16:20:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA10864; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:20:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:20:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990218210810.00e8fc2c@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:08:10 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"VAY6k.0.fC2.W98ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com not sure what jimi has to do with loops, or what jimi has to do with gibson, for that matter, but if they named it that I'd surely revoke their license.... :-) kim At 12:53 PM 2/18/99 -0800, Matt Peterson wrote: >how about "the Ghost of Jimi" > >2/18/99 11:31 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: > >>well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have some >>creative entries.... > ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 16:38:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA14019; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:38:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:38:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:32:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"VWqCO3.0.UA3.BR8ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >>how about "the Ghost of Jimi" >not sure what jimi has to do with loops, or what jimi has to do with gibson= , >for that matter, but if they named it that I'd surely revoke their >license.... :-) > >kim > Good point Kim, how about the "Fripp-a-Rangulator"?=8A Just Kidding, Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 16:50:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA16370; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:50:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:50:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CC8846.BE12034A@home.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:38:19 -0800 From: Neil Goldstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: So where are we? References: <2.2.32.19990218210810.00e8fc2c@pop.chromatic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"gb4o23.0.3e3.nb8ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I got mine after waiting for 2+ months from Alto. DOA: One of the Simms was loose, and connections had to be fixed by local service center. Took a week, then installed full memory cap. with old K2000 simms. Love it! Interim name until everyone gets theirs (: Elusive EDP or (brainstorm mode): Loop Catcher Sonic Core Dump Digitial Device Audio Mirroring Device etc. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 17:44:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA24413; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:44:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:44:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:35:26 -0800 Message-ID: <00194D06.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Where are we? >> Gibson + EDP update... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Kim Flint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"gMLHA.0.qf3.Bc8ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm still banking on the Flatiron Flashback! Or maybe the Steinberger Einstein... Just got off the phone with Mike Ayers from Giberheim... No facility relocation is scheduled... all is status quo. Units are shipping as fast as they can make them. Sales people at the retail outlets appear to be way behind what we know here at the list and sometimes confuse the hell out of us with old information. Longer term plans may include a move out to Palo Alto to live under the Opcode banner. I still think they're missing a big market by ignoring all the bluegrass/country loopers out there. Hell if Chet's doin' it there's gotta be more! Those guys all have lots of space in their "racks" for loopers. "Hey Hank! I thought they meant *gun racks* when I answered that market survey?!" -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 17:45:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA24669; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:45:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:45:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902182158.QAA17767@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 99 13:54:14 -0800 x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Matt Peterson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"ZLxAC1.0.zL4.tp8ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, you're right about the Gibson part... I didn't consider that.. but the Maestro Echoplex and Jimi... ?? 2/18/99 1:08 PM Kim Flint (kflint@chromatic.com) wrote: >not sure what jimi has to do with loops, or what jimi has to do with gibson, >for that matter, but if they named it that I'd surely revoke their >license.... :-) > >kim > >At 12:53 PM 2/18/99 -0800, Matt Peterson wrote: >>how about "the Ghost of Jimi" >> >>2/18/99 11:31 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: >> >>>well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have some >>>creative entries.... >> >________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 >ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com > > Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:07:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA28985; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:07:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:07:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902182244.RAA24509@rosy.yourwebhost.com> To: Subject: Loops and Lines Sender: burb@etrassociates.org From: "Bob Burnett" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:58:52 -0500 X-Message-UIDL: BADHCDBH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Description: Message Body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-ID: <"KuLVw3.0.D_5.CV9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hear tunes from the Loops and Lines CD at http://www.mp3.com/burnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:05:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA28739; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:05:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:05:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Where are we? >> Gibson + EDP update... Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:19:36 -0800 Message-ID: <001c01be5b8c$c47fa000$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <00194D06.C21407@wj.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"1YBnm.0.Ju5.0U9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Longer term plans may include a move out to Palo Alto to live > under the Opcode > banner. > Yes!!! I could bike over and pester them then, like I used to pester the Opcode programmers!! bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:11:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA29411; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:11:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:11:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: floyd@voicenet.com Date: 18 Feb 1999 22:32:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19990218223204.21521.qmail@unix01.voicenet.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: who (was where) are we now? Resent-Message-ID: <"2hd5D2.0.Hx5.PU9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What's all this about renaming the echoplex DP? What's all this about renaming the echoplex DP? Have I missed something important in this thread that I thought was irrelevant? What's all this about renaming the echoplex DP? I thought was irrelevant? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:14:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA30175; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:14:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:14:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902182217.WAA07929@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Tim Walker" To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:15:04 Reply-To: "Tim Walker" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Loop guitar CD out on MP3.com Resent-Message-ID: <"muXun3.0.dG6.CY9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm pleased to announce that, after a few months of steady uploading of tracks, my first CD of solo loop guitar is now available from my page on MP3.com (www.mp3.com/timwalker/). "Over The Bridge" contains eighteen tracks recorded at home between last September and this January, all but one being live-to-hard-disk recordings with guitar, looper and other assorted gadgets. It includes most of the tracks that have been available for download from the page over the last few months, plus many others which are exclusive to the CD. The disc can be ordered from MP3.com for $4.99, plus shipping (about $1.55 for international orders, but check the page), and whilst it doesn't come with a jewel case or inlay, I'm hoping to make an inlay design available for download from my Web site - maybe as a PDF? And while you're on MP3.com, check out David Cooper Orton's page for some cool loop stuff - any other LD'ers there too? Many thanks, and catch you round... Tim. *******************Tim Walker - Staines, UK******************* tawalker@dircon.co.uk - www.tawalker.dircon.co.uk/ Visit Tim's NEW recordings page at MP3.com: *********************www.mp3.com/timwalker/******************* From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:30:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA00277; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:30:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:30:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <36CC9C5C.4362@mdbs.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:03:56 -0500 From: "Dennis W. Leas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: idea/new feature Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"adT_B.0.nz6.8n9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' listenin'?). It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete the operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. Why? I'd like to use multiple EDPs as input and play-back devices. (The EDP user interface is GREAT for quickly improvising loops.) The EDPs would connect to a computer via a speedy interface. I could tell the computer to "take a snapshot" of the loopers. This would dump the digital audio data into the computer, perhaps it would also snapshot the complete state of the looper (i.e., all memories, parameter settings, etc.). Later, I could command the computer to restore a given looper to a "saved" setting. In this scenario, the EDPs functions as special purpose audio input/output devices. The computer functions as a programmable "master coordinator." The EDPs are able to respond in real-time to the user interface (being dedicated, special purpose, etc.) without audio "glitches". The computer isn't required to respond with a guarenteed real-time latency so it could run Windows 95 or NT or MacOS. This permits the use of standard developer tools like VB, VC++, even Java. I suppose you could have features like: the computer "merging" data from two sources (say two different loopers, perhaps two memories from a single looper, or two loops constructed at different times), etc. After doing the math, the new data would be downloaded into an EDP for playback and more manipulation/improvisation. MIDI footpedals would send commands to the computer to upload/download loopers and perform whatever other functions you wanted. The complete system could manage multiple loopers easily. I'm thinking at least three EDPs in the system but more could be easily added. My friends would probably file a "missing person" report on me, if I had a system like this. You might require a medical release form as part of the sale. :) What da' ya' think? - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:30:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA00276; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:30:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:30:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990218225414.00e6ba80@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:54:14 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"9PvaT.0.Vo6.wi9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com er...we're talking about the Oberheim Echoplex, which has about as much in common with the ancient Maestro thing as I've got in common with, well, jimi... It's the "Oberheim" portion of the name that they're going to change, since they're not using that brand name anymore, and vanquished the whole division. The bet is over what they'll change it to. Flatiron, I like that guess...."Come on down, getch yer real-time sampling and mandolins right here folks!" :-) kim At 01:54 PM 2/18/99 -0800, Matt Peterson wrote: >Well, you're right about the Gibson part... I didn't consider that.. but >the Maestro Echoplex and Jimi... ?? > >2/18/99 1:08 PM Kim Flint (kflint@chromatic.com) wrote: > >>not sure what jimi has to do with loops, or what jimi has to do with gibson, >>for that matter, but if they named it that I'd surely revoke their >>license.... :-) >> >>kim >> >>At 12:53 PM 2/18/99 -0800, Matt Peterson wrote: >>>how about "the Ghost of Jimi" >>> >>>2/18/99 11:31 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: >>> >>>>well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have some >>>>creative entries.... >>> ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@atitech.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:32:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA00933; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:32:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:32:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD092D435@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Re[2]: So where are we? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:49:35 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Resent-Message-ID: <"801YC3.0.AF7.Av9ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com jimi hendrix . . . flying v. it was done. also some pix with a les paul?? > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Peterson [SMTP:matt@xoom.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 13:54 > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? > > Well, you're right about the Gibson part... I didn't consider that.. but > the Maestro Echoplex and Jimi... ?? > > 2/18/99 1:08 PM Kim Flint (kflint@chromatic.com) wrote: > > >not sure what jimi has to do with loops, or what jimi has to do with > gibson, > >for that matter, but if they named it that I'd surely revoke their > >license.... :-) > > > >kim > > > >At 12:53 PM 2/18/99 -0800, Matt Peterson wrote: > >>how about "the Ghost of Jimi" > >> > >>2/18/99 11:31 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: > >> > >>>well? not going to join the echoplex name pool? Someone else must have > some > >>>creative entries.... > >> > >________________________________________________________ > >Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 > >ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com > > > > > > > Matt Peterson > Project Manager, Media Services > XOOM.com, Inc. > 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor > San Francisco CA 94104 > 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com > NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:54:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA09608; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:54:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:54:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CC99AD.9956A814@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:52:29 -0800 From: Clifford Novey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers Subject: Name Game Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0YT_O1.0.h81.KLAps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all- just got my Loopers II Cd- Track 2 was quite nice- I'm only up to track 3- If there is a third maybe I will be able to contribute- who knows- As for the new name... The Gibson USA Cud Chewer, er I mean The Gibson USA Loop Cutter- With the ultra lame Gibson USA emblem prominently displayed! ;) Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 18:55:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA10278; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:55:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:55:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990218234443.00e5a3cc@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:44:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: Re[2]: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"MgXGb3.0.Yq1.DSAps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 04:49 PM 2/18/99 -0600, Liebig, Steuart A. wrote: >jimi hendrix . . . flying v. it was done. also some pix with a les paul?? oh that's right, we even had that flying v poster hanging in the reception area at g-wiz. I recall people making a lot of jokes about it.... Dead guys can endorse anything, eh? kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@atitech.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 19:04:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA15349; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:04:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:04:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CCA6E8.688A9CBA@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:48:56 +0100 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: fr,en-US,fr-BE,en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: idea/new feature References: <36CC9C5C.4362@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ZZLuF3.0.az2.laAps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dennis I think you can already do almost exactly as you said ;=) I didn't try what follows but ..listen put the plex in sync out and slave your computer to the plexes midi clock plex audio out to the puter in now probably all serious DAW has a remote function so assign the relevant midi message to the punch I/O play and make snapshots of your plex loops when you want it with your midi foot switch hooked to the puter after playing and recording you have the raw loops ready to be reassembled arranged etc... later you slave the plex _to_ the computer puter audio out plex in fire the DAW record the loops with the plex overdub etc.. etc. ooh well I know all this could be completely destroyed by MIDI-audio drifts, irregular sync, puter latency, audio clock slaved to midi clock what did I forget ? I will probably try it but not tonight Bonne nuit Claude "Dennis W. Leas" wrote: > > Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' listenin'?). > > It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy > manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete the > operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of > something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. > > Why? > > I'd like to use multiple EDPs as input and play-back devices. (The EDP > user interface is GREAT for quickly improvising loops.) The EDPs would > connect to a computer via a speedy interface. I could tell the computer > to "take a snapshot" of the loopers. This would dump the digital audio > data into the computer, perhaps it would also snapshot the complete > state of the looper (i.e., all memories, parameter settings, etc.). > Later, I could command the computer to restore a given looper to a > "saved" setting. > > In this scenario, the EDPs functions as special purpose audio > input/output devices. The computer functions as a programmable "master > coordinator." The EDPs are able to respond in real-time to the user > interface (being dedicated, special purpose, etc.) without audio > "glitches". The computer isn't required to respond with a guarenteed > real-time latency so it could run Windows 95 or NT or MacOS. This > permits the use of standard developer tools like VB, VC++, even Java. I > suppose you could have features like: the computer "merging" data from > two sources (say two different loopers, perhaps two memories from a > single looper, or two loops constructed at different times), etc. After > doing the math, the new data would be downloaded into an EDP for > playback and more manipulation/improvisation. > > MIDI footpedals would send commands to the computer to upload/download > loopers and perform whatever other functions you wanted. The complete > system could manage multiple loopers easily. I'm thinking at least > three EDPs in the system but more could be easily added. > > My friends would probably file a "missing person" report on me, if I had > a system like this. You might require a medical release form as part of > the sale. :) > > What da' ya' think? > > - Dennis Leas > -- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 19:16:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA18676; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:16:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:16:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD092D437@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Re[2]: So where are we? Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:05:43 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Resent-Message-ID: <"rp1_T2.0.MC4.EmAps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >jimi hendrix . . . flying v. it was done. also some pix with a les paul?? > > oh that's right, we even had that flying v poster hanging in the reception > area at g-wiz. I recall people making a lot of jokes about it.... Dead > guys > can endorse anything, eh? > > kim > > i know, it was a stretch but i lonely . . . and of course there are the stevie ray vaughn and jaco pastorius "signature models" (or whatever they are) at fender . . . stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 19:22:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA20225; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:22:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:22:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990218181251.007d1df0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:12:51 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Name Game In-Reply-To: <36CC99AD.9956A814@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wgzF92.0.Se4.fsAps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here it is: Gibson's JamMan. Ha! J. McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... http://members.xoom.com/Gezoleen/ http://members.xoom.com/edkempertrio/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 19:38:46 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA24885; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:38:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:38:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:22:51 -0800 Message-ID: <00194FE6.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[4]: So where are we? To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , "Liebig; Steuart A." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"V1BVu2.0.se5.q4Bps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Stig... >>jimi hendrix . . . flying v. it was done. also some pix with a les paul?? At least Burger King hasn't used his stuff yet... Kim... > oh that's right, we even had that flying v poster hanging in the reception > area at g-wiz. I recall people making a lot of jokes about it.... Dead > guys can endorse anything, eh? I wonder what toothpaste Jimi used? Does anyone really know? Stig... > i know, it was a stretch but i lonely . . . and of course there are the > Stevie ray vaughn and jaco pastorius "signature models" (or whatever they are) > at fender . . . Stevie and Jaco were frequently seen chowing down at Taco Bell! Those guy were whalers, eh? But they got the big harpoon! Speaking of "Sig" models... The Klein model numbers for their 2 different guits have prefixes of "DT" and "BF". Can anyone guess who's initials those are? They both loop... Coincidence?.. I lonely too Stig... So I ordered EDP!!! -m From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 19:42:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA25996; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:42:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:42:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:29:57 -0500 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: Gibson address / Feedback problem Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: <199902181930_MC2-6B0A-9152@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"lerKV2.0.2-5.L9Bps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi everybody, I'd like to give a reply to James Lanpheer's feedback problem : If it's NOT that you didn't crank the feedback knob all up or forgot to leave the "overdub" mode the reason may be a bad pot . I know another three guys with the same problem This could be fixed by either exchanging the pot or adding a capacitor on= the pot ( I can't tell you the right value but I think a good technician will ) Actually, if you got a brandnew one you should return it and get it repaired on guarantee, because normally, with feedback all up your loop should repeat endlessly ! By the way, did you Digitech RDS owners know that you can get get a bit more delay time out of your Time Machine by adjusting an internal trim pot ? I got my RDS 7.6 ( which I don't have anymore ) " tuned " to 9 secs and a= friend of mine his even to 12 !! The bad thing is that by turning the delay time up you will cut down the frequency range You'll have to find out a balance which is okay for you. If anyone wants to know how to do the trick please, let me know If that's an old fart for you please, forgive me because I'm new on the list Mike Biffle wanted to know a Gibson address : What I know is the address of Mr. Keith Paul, the General Manager of Oberheim as on his business card ( this information is one year old, I met him last year on the " Musik Messe " trade show in Frankfurt, Germany) 1818 Elm Hill Pike Nashville, Tennessee 37210 USA 615-871-4500 EXT 494 - 404-485-4060 FAX kpaul@gibson.com Hey Kim, anything new about the EDP being " CE-fied " ? We poor guys in Europe have still the problem that new EDPs can't get imported until they got this f...ing CE button on them = Anybody selling a used one ? ( okay okay, just kidding... ) Someone asked me ( I think it was Chuck ) if I liked the Paradis Loop Del= ay Yes, I like it ! As you might know, it's the predecessor pf the EDP It works well and sounds well It doesn't have many of the MIDI functions the EDP has, it features just one loop instead of nine, six jacks for six switches ( yuck ! )instead of one jack and one footpeda= l, no reverse and so on... But there are two advantages : a) it has a "direct out" jack, what I think is helpful when you want to combine two loopers without using a mixer b) the loop/delay time can be altered via MIDI controller or a voltage pedal connected to the sync jack And again, I say that IMHO the EDP still lacks a) another possibility to define the loop/delay time than with = = the RECORD button = = b) pedal control for the loop/delay time = = c) modulation with different waveforms = = d) DIRECT OUT and EFFECT ONLY OUTS (minor important) So long Leander From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 19:48:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA27047; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:48:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:48:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990219003648.29488.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:36:48 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: Loops and Lines To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"tVcgV3.0.AH6._CBps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Most excellent! Thanks for sharing. Randy Jones ---Bob Burnett wrote: > > Hear tunes from the Loops and Lines CD at http://www.mp3.com/burnett > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 20:13:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA31524; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:13:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:13:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <39ADCF833E74D111A2D700805F1951EF0D23F03B@RED-MSG-06> From: Greg Meredith To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: idea/new feature Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:02:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Resent-Message-ID: <"r14f03.0.UT7.fbBps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dennis, Your idea is superlative. --greg -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas [SMTP:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 3:04 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: idea/new feature Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' listenin'?). It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete the operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. Why? I'd like to use multiple EDPs as input and play-back devices. (The EDP user interface is GREAT for quickly improvising loops.) The EDPs would connect to a computer via a speedy interface. I could tell the computer to "take a snapshot" of the loopers. This would dump the digital audio data into the computer, perhaps it would also snapshot the complete state of the looper (i.e., all memories, parameter settings, etc.). Later, I could command the computer to restore a given looper to a "saved" setting. In this scenario, the EDPs functions as special purpose audio input/output devices. The computer functions as a programmable "master coordinator." The EDPs are able to respond in real-time to the user interface (being dedicated, special purpose, etc.) without audio "glitches". The computer isn't required to respond with a guarenteed real-time latency so it could run Windows 95 or NT or MacOS. This permits the use of standard developer tools like VB, VC++, even Java. I suppose you could have features like: the computer "merging" data from two sources (say two different loopers, perhaps two memories from a single looper, or two loops constructed at different times), etc. After doing the math, the new data would be downloaded into an EDP for playback and more manipulation/improvisation. MIDI footpedals would send commands to the computer to upload/download loopers and perform whatever other functions you wanted. The complete system could manage multiple loopers easily. I'm thinking at least three EDPs in the system but more could be easily added. My friends would probably file a "missing person" report on me, if I had a system like this. You might require a medical release form as part of the sale. :) What da' ya' think? - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 20:36:19 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA02255; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:36:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:36:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CC77AC.51D4E7DD@columbus.rr.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:27:28 +0000 From: Darrell Jones Reply-To: djones01@columbus.rr.com Organization: Intra Sites X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: idea/new feature References: <39ADCF833E74D111A2D700805F1951EF0D23F03B@RED-MSG-06> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sYeiu2.0.UO.2yBps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You will be able to do that with the new midi interface that's in the wing, it's called "mLAN" it uses firewire, just read an artical about it. Greg Meredith wrote: > Dennis, > > Your idea is superlative. > > --greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis W. Leas [SMTP:dennis@mdbs.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 3:04 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: idea/new feature > > Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' > listenin'?). > > It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy > manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete > the > operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of > something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. > > Why? > > I'd like to use multiple EDPs as input and play-back devices. (The > EDP > user interface is GREAT for quickly improvising loops.) The EDPs > would > connect to a computer via a speedy interface. I could tell the > computer > to "take a snapshot" of the loopers. This would dump the digital > audio > data into the computer, perhaps it would also snapshot the complete > state of the looper (i.e., all memories, parameter settings, etc.). > > Later, I could command the computer to restore a given looper to a > "saved" setting. > > In this scenario, the EDPs functions as special purpose audio > input/output devices. The computer functions as a programmable > "master > coordinator." The EDPs are able to respond in real-time to the user > > interface (being dedicated, special purpose, etc.) without audio > "glitches". The computer isn't required to respond with a > guarenteed > real-time latency so it could run Windows 95 or NT or MacOS. This > permits the use of standard developer tools like VB, VC++, even > Java. I > suppose you could have features like: the computer "merging" data > from > two sources (say two different loopers, perhaps two memories from a > single looper, or two loops constructed at different times), etc. > After > doing the math, the new data would be downloaded into an EDP for > playback and more manipulation/improvisation. > > MIDI footpedals would send commands to the computer to > upload/download > loopers and perform whatever other functions you wanted. The > complete > system could manage multiple loopers easily. I'm thinking at least > three EDPs in the system but more could be easily added. > > My friends would probably file a "missing person" report on me, if I > had > a system like this. You might require a medical release form as > part of > the sale. :) > > What da' ya' think? > > - Dennis Leas > -- > dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 20:48:33 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA03781; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:48:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:48:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3ac8d4a9.36ccc081@aol.com> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:38:09 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Loops and Lines Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"W9H6b.0.Dm.17Cps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/18/99 9:02:34 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, burb@etrassociates.org writes: << Hear tunes from the Loops and Lines CD at http://www.mp3.com/burnett >> bob.....tasty.....loved "igor".....thanks......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 21:01:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA05543; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:01:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:01:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Rd. Jaingsaleh Prawirosari BSc" To: Subject: try my loop Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:53:15 +0700 Message-ID: <01be5baa$acdbb380$7b0094ca@jokotole> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01BE5BE5.593A8B80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ybv1T1.0.-B1.kICps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BE5BE5.593A8B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Those who likes looping ... try my music at www.mp3.com.malari MALARI ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BE5BE5.593A8B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Those who=20 likes looping ... try my music at www.mp3.com.malari
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BE5BE5.593A8B80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 18 23:44:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA29521; Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:44:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:44:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.1.19990218232822.0093e620@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:28:58 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: try my loop In-Reply-To: <01be5baa$acdbb380$7b0094ca@jokotole> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_686480==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: <"fYH8D1.0.pi6.qaEps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --=====================_686480==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You mean /malari? At 08:53 AM 2/19/99 +0700, you wrote: > > Those who likes looping ... try my music at > www.mp3.com.malari > > > > MALARI > **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com **** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd ** http://www.studiodust.com --=====================_686480==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" You mean /malari?

At 08:53 AM 2/19/99 +0700, you wrote:
    Those who likes looping ... try my music at www.mp3.com.malari
 
 
 
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      ** http://www.studiodust.com --=====================_686480==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 00:09:35 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA01231; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:09:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000e01be5bc7$0f1e0e00$a522a2d1@i658574> From: "Peter Spoecker" To: "looper list" Subject: Howdy and whatnot Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:16:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"XNRqo3.0.y-7.N2Fps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi fellow loopers: I just today found out about the looper list. Never occurred to me there would be such a thing, but why not? I bumbled onto it because I was doing web searches to look for a Jam Man and to explore alternatives. I'll keep trying to find a Jam Man for a while and if I can't find one at an attractive price I'll go for an Echoplex. I have a Jam Man now and I want a second one to do sync looping with the other. Believe it or not, I was doing sampled phrase looping YEARS before anyone even thought of such an idea (to my best knowlede, anyhow). This was in the late Pleistocene (or so) when 12 bit samplers with floppy drives were state of the art. I had 12 (yep, TWELVE) Yamaha TX-16W samplers with lots of extra memory to achieve the ability to do lots of fairly long loops. I controlled the sequencing of the loops from midi files originally typed into a digital music system (Synclavier). This was back when the Synclavier was just an FM synth and I had one of those new fangled midi upgrades for it. In spite of the TX-16W experience, I never lost my fascination for loops. They're now very important to my "one man band" stage presentation of didgeridoo and world beat music as well as in the studio. I have a truly HUGE (maybe world record size?) collection of ethnic and dance sample CD's and I've also produced a didgeridoo sample CD/CD ROM that has proven to be my principal source of income for the last few years. It's distributed by Big Fish and they've done well by me indeed. Imagine in this day and age a music related business that pays royalties honestly and promptly. I also have a Synclavier FM sounds sample CD ROM with Big Fish. Anyway, if you want to check out my website www.didgeridoings.com you can find out how I've used my huge sample CD collection very effectively in 2 of my albums: "Didgeridoo USA" (featuring the best and best known didge players in the US) and "Whole Earth Didgeridoo", which features 6 incredible players I recorded in Australia as well as another American and me. Both of these albums make extremely extensive use of commercial sample loops and as an owner of a large Pro Tools system I also use looping techniques extensively in my own material. If the "netiquette" of your list disallows members mentioning products they sell, please forgive and let me know. I've been on other lists where quite a few member post occasional news related to products they're selling. No one minds as long as the material is truly relevant to the spirit of the list and is not just a spamming effort. I've seen a variety of flame wars on special interest email lists and I sure don't want to be part of any here, so just let me know if I've offended and I'll sign off. In case the idea of someone obsessed with musical and technological creative esoterica also attempting to make a living with that doesn't offend anyone too much, maybe some of you might share with me any knowledge of other relevant lists I could check out to share with and learn from. Also, if anyone knows of a Jam Man for sale at a reasonable price (LESS than the original new price) or of a used Echoplex, could you let me know? Incidentally how many people are on this list (active or as lurkers)? Is the list quite international, or mainly US? It's rather interesting that the other list I've spent the most time on (the infamous didge list) is as low tech as it gets (nothing lower tech than a hollow tube, eh?) and digital looping is pretty seriously high tech. Thanks, Peter Peter Spoecker peter@didgeridoings.com check out www.didgeridoings.com for didgeridoo music, tutorial CD, free circular breathing primer, computer animation, fractals and much more From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 01:43:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA12851; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:43:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 01:43:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902190012.MXT5650@Lara.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:12:50 AM X-UIDL: 870483360.098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Los Angeles International BookExpo, 1999 From: ivyxuu@gxbr.rrsri.rigl.com To: LVidal9747@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <"z8ihZ3.0.ns2.JMGps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Attention Authors, Publishers And Book Promotion Agents (Los Angeles Book Expo April 30 - May 2, 1999) Are you interested in presenting your book at this year’s BookExpo? For more information, please visit www.outcrybookreview.com/authors.htm Press: See a pictorial coverage of the recent visit of Pope Paul to the United States ( to St. Louis, MO). www.outcrybookreview.com/PopeParade1.htm OUTCRY Magazine, Lara Publications www.outcrybookreview.com www.smallbusinesses.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 02:52:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA20601; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:52:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:52:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990219073704.11301.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.176.140.7] From: "James Eric Williamson" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: I'm the $700 a**hole Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 23:37:03 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"8IjYT.0.gh4.KNHps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com So I sold a Jamman for $700... I needed the money for a Kyma system; and if someone wants to pay $700 for an antiquated delay unit, I want to be the beneficiary. In my looping career, I have owned two JamDudes, two EDPs, an RDS-8000, a TSR-24, and a Vortex. I have sold all of them, and not regretted it at all. The appropriateness of the rackmount-MIDI-controlled-three-buttons-and-an-LCD-with-twenty-user-presets paradigm is wearing thin. I want ten individual 20-bit 44.1k loops with variable looptimes (lengths determined by number of beats or seconds) synchronised with a modular sequencer driving a phase-coherent additive synthesiser with a click track out to my drummer so I can bring the concept of an imrovisational 1960s jazz organ trio into the 21st century. I cannot accomplish this with the rig I listed in my user profile. Anyway, I'm going to start collecting for the next big goldmine.. vintage DJ equipment! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 02:52:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA20603; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:52:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:52:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990218210810.00e8fc2c@pop.chromatic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:34:33 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: Re[2]: So where are we? Resent-Message-ID: <"Hz58L.0.Fh4.BNHps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 1:08 PM -0800 2/18/99, Kim Flint wrote: >not sure what jimi has to do with loops, or what jimi has to do with gibson, >for that matter, but if they named it that I'd surely revoke their >license.... :-) Surely you remember the Gibson poster that had that shot of Jimi playing a Flying V? (Think "lobby" of GWIZ). -C _________________________________________________ Chris Muir | cbm@well.com | Got moloko? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 04:08:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA27977; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:08:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:08:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: HAPPY99 Diagnosis & Removal Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:55:11 -0800 Message-ID: <000201be5be5$8f0a2e00$29ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990218071123.007a3a60@pop.ici.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZwW5-.0.wd6.hWIps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The instructions were posted by Jeff Duke on 13 February at 7:05 a.m. The instructions are good. For more information, read up on the Happy99 phenomenon at Symantec and other virus-related websites around the Internet: Symantec: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html Dude at Geocities: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3652/SKA.HTM These two are quite prominent. You should look up the thread a few days back on the Happy99 worm. If you know the McAffee website, they also have a large page on Happy99. MAIN THING: Do not run programs you receive via e-mail without knowing what they are. If you do get Happy99 via e-mail, DO NOT RUN IT. If you have Vortex patches worth sharing, visit: Andy's Vortex Page: http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm Be well. Javier Berkeley -----Original Message----- From: Tim Nelson [mailto:tcn62@ici.net] Sent: Thursday 18 February 1999 7:11 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: HAPPY99 Diagnosis & Removal This info may be redundant, or possibly redundant, but I thought I'd pass it along. I have no idea who wrote these instructions originally, so I don't know if I trust it; suspicion, paranoia, I feel like Mulder... It might be helpful if one of you on the list who's better versed in DOS than I am could look the enclosed instructions over to confirm that I'm actually passing along good information and not just clouding the water... The thing I'm leery of is how we've been warned by other postings not to restart without taking care of the problem first, while the first thing this one tells us to do is to restart in DOS mode... So a short reply to the list from someone who would know better than I either confirming the instructions or sounding the BS alarm would be appreciated. Thanks, Tim BTW, I never saw any fireworks either, just a bunch of gibberish, and didn't see or open any attachments, and I have restarted successfully several times since the scare, so I'm pretty sure I'm all set, but would still appreciate if one of you could give the omini-domini to the removal instructions... ------------------------------------- >This one is for real. I haven't seen this e-mail, but they tend to go >>around for a long time. You may want to make a note of the name for future >>reference. Hopefully we won't ever see it. >> >>The virus, HAPPY99.EXE can not infect your computer unless you actually >>run/execute the program! The program, happy99.exe would have come attached >>to an EMAIL. If you double clicked on happy.exe, you would then see >>fireworks. >>If you did not get the program happy99.exe attached to an email, or you >>didn't execute the program if you did receive it, then you are NOT infected >>with the virus!! >>If you did execute the program, you have the virus and are passing it along >>to others! >>Here are instructions for removing this virus: >>Click Start, then Shut Down, then "Restart Computer in MS-DOS mode", then >>click Yes. It's important to do this so you can make the necessary changes. >>At the DOS prompt type this exactly and press enter at the end of each line: >>CD \WINDOWS\SYSTEM >>If that doesn't work, try >>CD SYSTEM >>Delete SKA.EXE and SKA.DLL by typing >>DEL SKA.EXE >>DEL SKA.DLL >>If you get "File not found" you're either not infected or in the wrong >>directory. Make sure you're in your Windows System directory; check to see >>if you followed step 2 exactly. >>Copy WSOCK32.SKA to WSOCK32.DLL by typing >>COPY WSOCK32.SKA WSOCK32.DLL >>Answer "Yes" if it asks if you want to overwrite WSOCK32.DLL. Explanation: >>WSOCK32.SKA is a backup of the original WSOCK32.DLL made by the virus. You >>are replacing the modified DLL with the original. Delete WSOCK32.SKA by >>typing >>DEL WSOCK32.SKA Do not delete WSOCK32.SKA if you are unable to replace >>WSOCK32.DLL with WSOCK32.SKA. >>Return to Windows by typing >>EXIT >>Optional: Choose Start, Programs, Accessories, Notepad, choose File, then >>Open then type C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\LISTE.SKA in the File Name box. Warn the >>people on the list, then delete LISTE.SKA >> >> From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 04:10:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA28493; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:10:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:10:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: idea/new feature Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:55:17 -0800 Message-ID: <000301be5be5$923f1a40$29ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36CC9C5C.4362@mdbs.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"KgVfB.0.bd6.fWIps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think that's a great idea. It seems also to blend the idea of using SCSI or Ultra-DMA HDD -- or CD-W -- as storage devices. By using loads of fast RAM and virtual memory (with large caches, of course), the EDP could increase the available memory for loops to actually like an hour, which you could divide up into many many different loops that you could actually switch between in real time. Being that the Ethernet is rapidly becoming a standard for so-called "home" networks, I can see the EDP making use of Ethernet. Just think! Pentium III, Ultra-wide SCSI-3, Fast Ethernet, and the EDP! All working together to produce sound in real time. That would be really cool, no? -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Thursday 18 February 1999 3:04 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: idea/new feature Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' listenin'?). It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete the operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. Why? I'd like to use multiple EDPs as input and play-back devices. (The EDP user interface is GREAT for quickly improvising loops.) The EDPs would connect to a computer via a speedy interface. I could tell the computer to "take a snapshot" of the loopers. This would dump the digital audio data into the computer, perhaps it would also snapshot the complete state of the looper (i.e., all memories, parameter settings, etc.). Later, I could command the computer to restore a given looper to a "saved" setting. In this scenario, the EDPs functions as special purpose audio input/output devices. The computer functions as a programmable "master coordinator." The EDPs are able to respond in real-time to the user interface (being dedicated, special purpose, etc.) without audio "glitches". The computer isn't required to respond with a guarenteed real-time latency so it could run Windows 95 or NT or MacOS. This permits the use of standard developer tools like VB, VC++, even Java. I suppose you could have features like: the computer "merging" data from two sources (say two different loopers, perhaps two memories from a single looper, or two loops constructed at different times), etc. After doing the math, the new data would be downloaded into an EDP for playback and more manipulation/improvisation. MIDI footpedals would send commands to the computer to upload/download loopers and perform whatever other functions you wanted. The complete system could manage multiple loopers easily. I'm thinking at least three EDPs in the system but more could be easily added. My friends would probably file a "missing person" report on me, if I had a system like this. You might require a medical release form as part of the sale. :) What da' ya' think? - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 04:13:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA28858; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:13:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:13:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: Guess the name Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:55:07 -0800 Message-ID: <000101be5be5$8c27a780$29ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"2awVp.0.0e6.hWIps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK. I guess "Gibson Echoplex." I also guess "Gibson Digital Echoplex," or GDE. What about 'Lectric ex-Oberheim Orange Pro Echoplex, or "LOOP Echoplex"? You'd have to paint them all orange, of course. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@annihilist.com] Sent: Thursday 18 February 1999 1:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: So where are we? I don't think they've decided what the new brand name is going to be yet. At this point, I'm guessing "Electar" is not it, but I don't know. I say we start up a "guess the name" betting pool. I'll put a fiver on "opcode echoplex". kim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 04:40:24 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA31789; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:40:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 04:40:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990219092758.006b2cb0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:27:58 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot Resent-Message-ID: <"4dnXZ2.0.-T7.E_Ips"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey Peter welcome... and great job! I'm really interested in the making of sample CD Actually I work for an italian mag. to program grooves and sequences for their monthly CDs. what does it mean that you use "commercial sample loops"? Did you create only the didgeridoo parts? Is it right? Any samples on line? ciao leo Both of these albums make >extremely extensive use of commercial sample loops and as an owner of a >large Pro Tools system I also use looping techniques extensively in my own >material. >If the "netiquette" of your list disallows members mentioning products they >sell, please forgive and let me know. I've been on other lists where quite >a few member post occasional news related to products they're selling. No >one minds as long as the material is truly relevant to the spirit of the >list and is not just a spamming effort. I've seen a variety of flame wars >on special interest email lists and I sure don't want to be part of any >here, so just let me know if I've offended and I'll sign off. >In case the idea of someone obsessed with musical and technological creative >esoterica also attempting to make a living with that doesn't offend anyone >too much, maybe some of you might share with me any knowledge of other >relevant lists I could check out to share with and learn from. Also, if >anyone knows of a Jam Man for sale at a reasonable price (LESS than the >original new price) or of a used Echoplex, could you let me know? >Incidentally how many people are on this list (active or as lurkers)? Is >the list quite international, or mainly US? It's rather interesting that >the other list I've spent the most time on (the infamous didge list) is as >low tech as it gets (nothing lower tech than a hollow tube, eh?) and digital >looping is pretty seriously high tech. > >Thanks, > >Peter > >Peter Spoecker >peter@didgeridoings.com >check out www.didgeridoings.com for didgeridoo music, >tutorial CD, free circular breathing primer, computer animation, >fractals and much more > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 06:05:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA10403; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:05:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:05:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199902181930_MC2-6B0A-9152@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:34:52 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Gibson address / Feedback problem Resent-Message-ID: <"rTvLF.0.GJ2.CGKps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:29 PM -0800 2/18/99, Leander REININGHAUS wrote: >By the way, did you Digitech RDS owners know that you can get get a bit >more delay time out of your >Time Machine by adjusting an internal trim pot ? >I got my RDS 7.6 ( which I don't have anymore ) " tuned " to 9 secs and a >friend of mine his even to 12 !! >The bad thing is that by turning the delay time up you will cut down the >frequency range >You'll have to find out a balance which is okay for you. > >If anyone wants to know how to do the trick please, let me know >If that's an old fart for you please, forgive me because I'm new on the >list Hey, could you send me the details? I'd like to put it on the Looper's Delight web pages. I always like cool little hacks like this.... >Mike Biffle wanted to know a Gibson address : > >What I know is the address of Mr. Keith Paul, the General Manager of >Oberheim as on his business card Keith ain't there no more. He lasted longer than many gibson GM's, but they all meet their maker sooner or later. >anything new about the EDP being " CE-fied " ? no idea. it's gibson's deal. God knows I've offered to help them do it often enough. Pray that it ends up at Opcode, those guys can probably manage it right. >We poor guys in Europe have still the problem that new EDPs can't get >imported until they got this f...ing >CE button on them just buy it from a US store and have them ship it to you, like everyone else. :-) > >And again, I say that IMHO the EDP still lacks a) another possibility to >define the loop/delay time than with > > d) DIRECT OUT and EFFECT ONLY OUTS (minor important) I modified some to have this feature for a particular Rock Star once. (actually for his tech and sound guy, who wanted wanted to control loop/direct mix independent of said Rock Star's tendancy to tweak the knobs all the time.) It was actually pretty easy, but meant losing one of the jacks in the back. If anybody cares a lot, I might be willing to write down how to do it. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 06:10:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA11517; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:10:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:10:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990219073704.11301.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:52:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: I'm the $700 a**hole Resent-Message-ID: <"7oMDl2.0.qJ2.HGKps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:37 PM -0800 2/18/99, James Eric Williamson wrote: >So I sold a Jamman for $700... that doesn't make you an asshole, parting fools from their money is a fine tradition. feel proud. congrats! now eventually, the guy who paid the $700 has got to show up here, that should be fun. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 06:10:06 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA11463; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:10:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 06:10:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36CC9C5C.4362@mdbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 02:49:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: idea/new feature Resent-Message-ID: <"QAfpU2.0.VJ2.EGKps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 3:03 PM -0800 2/18/99, Dennis W. Leas wrote: >Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' listenin'?). yep. >It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy >manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete the >operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of >something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. interesting thing: it's now typical for embedded microprocessor development to use ethernet for transferring code from the PC to the development systems. (serial ports were used in the bad old days.) So all the microprocessor eval systems and software development tools come with ethernet built in. The result is, at the end of the product development, you've got functional ethernet developed for free. So, given time and money, (a lot of money, please give us money. :-) we aurisis maniacs will eventually develop another Loop hardware platform, and it will certainly have ethernet as a possibility for the final product. I've been thinking of this for a while actually. Ethernet is useless for real time control, but great for fast, reliable file transfers. It would seem pretty cool to me to have your studio all networked, right? someday. kim (Or maybe firewire will finally arrive, that would be even better.) ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 08:08:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA21166; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:08:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:08:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000601be5c08$66b53d00$8e22a2d1@i658574> From: "Peter Spoecker" To: Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 05:04:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LSQXD2.0.em4.uuLps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Leo: >welcome... and great job! Thanks >what does it mean that you use "commercial sample loops"? >Did you create only the didgeridoo parts? Is it right? On "Whole Earth Didgeridoo" everything but didge is commercial sample loops, yes. On "Didgeridoo USA" there's also quite a bit of normally performed material in addition to the many commercial loops. In the case of "Whole Earth" even the didge parts relied on looping to an extreme degree. All the Australia recording was quick field recordings onto a portable DAT. There were lots of mistakes and never any click track or other timing reference. To create those final pieces with steady tempo and tight timing I had to do extensive digital fixing of mistakes and extensive clipping out good riffs and time stretching them to fit a tempo. In some cases the rhythmic feel ended up totally different from the original performances. An incredible concept and tremendously time consuming, but it worked. Quite a few people regard "Whole Earth" as the best or at least one of the best didge albums ever recorded. I may be a bit biased, but I tend to agree. I recorded some totally unbelievable players and then went all out (over a period of over 2 years) on the production. >Any samples on line? Not on my site. However www.bigfishaudio.com has samples of my samples as well as lots of their other sample libraries. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 08:20:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA22493; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:20:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:20:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002101be5c0b$700abc60$8e22a2d1@i658574> From: "Peter Spoecker" To: Subject: Re: I'm the $700 a**hole Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 05:25:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"fBeMk.0.3H5.DDMps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy: >>So I sold a Jamman for $700... > >that doesn't make you an asshole, parting fools from their money is a fine >tradition. feel proud. I heard about this $700 ebay JamMan deal before I even got onto this list. I'm glad that that's not a normal common price for a JamMan. I want a second JamMan because I want to use a single pedal to control record on and off for 2 units, not for stereo sampling, but for allowing overdubbing without the first take getting too buried after a while. It's often nice to start with a basic drum riff to build on top off, but you sure don't want that drum riff getting too far back in the mix after a while. I figure controlling 2 JamMans (Men?) simultaneously would allow me to use one for the percussion bed and a second one to layer other stuff onto. Then you could simply adjust the levels of the 2 units as you're building your piece. Is there anybody out there with experience with JamMan & Echoplex both? >From my study of the Echoplex manual it appears that it should be possible to control record on and off on an Echoplex and a JamMan with the same pedal. It would be quite easy to parallel wire a second cable out from a simple switch type pedal. The loops should easily stay in sync for at least half an hour or so. Phase coherence is not an issue in this case. Ideas? Anyone with actual relevant experience? Also, what would be a reasonable and realistic price to pay for a JamMan nowadays? I don't need the memory upgrade as I have several obsolete and mostly non-functional Amigas with Zip chips I can cannibalize. In case I can't find a JamMan, what is a realistic used Echoplex price? I can also rob old Amigas of Simms for memory upgrade for that. Thanks for any help. Peter From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 08:46:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA25069; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:46:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:46:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.1.19990219082127.00932a60@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:23:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: RE: HAPPY99 - STOP!! In-Reply-To: <000201be5be5$8f0a2e00$29ceefd1@electra> References: <3.0.5.32.19990218071123.007a3a60@pop.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"NIYlL2.0.gd5.GQMps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:55 AM 2/19/99 -0800, Javier wrote: >The instructions were posted by Jeff Duke on 13 February at 7:05 a.m. The >instructions are good. For more information, read up on the Happy99 >... blah blah blah Alright already... all these messages about the worm are becoming worse than the worm. Or is this part of the diabolical plot? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 09:06:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA27306; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:06:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:06:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Jeff Shorthouse To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: idea/new feature Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 08:51:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"EDXGZ1.0.wU6.zuMps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi All, This can actually kinda be accomplished now- alot of samplers now have SCSI-2 ports and if you sample at lower bandwidths/bit rates (say 32khz/12 or 8 bit-perfect for low-fi sounds) and couple this with a fast external hard drive you could load several longish ( a couple of minutes or so) in the amount of time your bandmates can take a sip of beer in between songs. Alot of samplers can also have flash ram installed for instant loading of some of your longer loops (typically samplers max out at about 10 megs of flash ram). There are also alot of MIDI devices out now that will give you the real time control that you need over the loops. Jeff Shorthouse Alien Radio Station Toronto, Canada At 3:03 PM -0800 2/18/99, Dennis W. Leas wrote: >Here's an idea for a new feature for the EDP (Kim, are ya' listenin'?). yep. >It would really be cool if you could dump/load samples in a speedy >manner. I'm thinking of something like 1 or 2 seconds to complete the >operation. I know MIDI wouldn't support this but I'm thinking of >something like 10 or 100 Mbps Ethernet. interesting thing: it's now typical for embedded microprocessor development to use ethernet for transferring code from the PC to the development systems. (serial ports were used in the bad old days.) So all the microprocessor eval systems and software development tools come with ethernet built in. The result is, at the end of the product development, you've got functional ethernet developed for free. So, given time and money, (a lot of money, please give us money. :-) we aurisis maniacs will eventually develop another Loop hardware platform, and it will certainly have ethernet as a possibility for the final product. I've been thinking of this for a while actually. Ethernet is useless for real time control, but great for fast, reliable file transfers. It would seem pretty cool to me to have your studio all networked, right? someday. kim (Or maybe firewire will finally arrive, that would be even better.) ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 09:37:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA30605; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:37:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:37:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:12:03 -0500 (EST) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199902191412.JAA00344@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Playlist Resent-Message-ID: <"IkrhB1.0.5y6.H9Nps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Playlist for "EMUSIC" "Emusic," an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html Show #102 February 18, 1999. Host: Bill Fox http://wdiyfm.org billfox@fast.net On this show, I continued the month-long focus on early synth master, Larry Fast and his Synergy releases. For background information, please point your web browser to the WDIY web site or visit the... Synergy web site: http://www.eclipse.net/~synergy See also the NEARFest site: http://ghostland.com/nearfest The feature CD at midnight was "Audion" on Third Contact. Upcoming events announced: Star's End Gathering XVI (Ma Ja Le and Jeff Pearce) and XVII (Richard Pinhas), Arttek at Second Avenue, and NEARfest. I played the music of Ma Ja Le and Jeff Pearce to promote their upcoming appearances at SEG XVI. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:00 pm Cassiel Nijinsky (Red Axis) Listen/Move (Atomic City) Sir Isaac Neutron's The Fractured Caverns Gravity for Beginners (none) Ambient Dalliance of the Snow Wolf Lee Barry Time Warp Miles from Mars (Consilient) Mother Mallard's Train 1970-1973 (Cuneiform) Portable Masterpiece Co. Ma Ja Le & Vir Unis Falling Sky Imaginarium (Mirage) VA [Jeff Pearce] The Sacred Descent The Other World (Hypnos) The Ministry of Inside While the Rest of the Live at the ICA (Synkronos) Things World Sleeps Jon Jenkins Into a Worl of Wonder Flow (Spotted Peccary) Laocoon Leviathan Immersion (Parnassus Nump) 12:00 am Synergy (Larry Fast) Orbit Five Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Revolt at L-5 Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Terminal Hotel Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Electric Blue Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Ancestors Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) After the Earthquake Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Falcons & Eagles Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) FlightOfTheLookingGlass Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) Shibolet Audion (Third Contact) Synergy (Larry Fast) An End to History Audion (Third Contact) Stockhausen tracks 1 - 12 Oktophonie (none) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next EMUSIC, I will continue the month-long focus on that synergistic composer, Larry Fast and his Synergy (R) releases. The feature CD at midnight will be "Sequencer" on Third Contact. Please visit the WDIY web site and navigate through the schedule to the EMUSIC pages. Playlists for every show are there. Hot links to artists and labels can be found in the monthly focus section. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 10:06:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA01201; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:06:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 10:06:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 09:11:58 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: I'd love to be a $700 A**Hole Resent-Message-ID: <"QD5Jl2.0.uo7.gcNps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I currently have a JAmn AMn over at the Rogue Music Auction. It is sitting at $500 right now. The auction ends at 5pm Friday Evening, just in case any of you have to have this baby. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 12:06:30 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA20029; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:06:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:06:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902191649.LAA17063@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Subject: Re: idea/new feature Date: Fri, 19 Feb 99 08:46:13 -0800 x-sender: matt@mail1.xoom.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Matt Peterson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"6-Vgh3.0.uA4.OOPps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Built-in on Macs and Sonys today. Now if only Apple doesn't kill it by mandating that $1/port licensing fee... 2/19/99 2:49 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: >(Or maybe firewire will finally arrive, that would be even better.) Matt Peterson Project Manager, Media Services XOOM.com, Inc. 300 Montgomery St., 3rd Floor San Francisco CA 94104 415-288-2505 FAX: 415-288-2575 matt@xoom.com NASDAQ: XMCM From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 12:36:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA24934; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:36:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:36:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902191718.MAA02423@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: Gibson address / Feedback problem Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:17:47 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"bgUMv3.0.Qd5.VuPps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Leander:> >By the way, did you Digitech RDS owners know that you can get get a bit > >more delay time out of your > >Time Machine by adjusting an internal trim pot ? > Kim: Hey, could you send me the details? I'd like to put it on the Looper's Delight web pages. I always like cool little hacks like this.... Kim, count me in!! i'dlove to try that weird mod - pls post when you have gotten it up on the site thanx From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 12:36:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA24988; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:36:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:36:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902191722.MAA04628@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Jimi w/ Les Paul Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 12:21:43 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"okTyM1.0.Mm5.ByPps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From: Liebig, Steuart A. > To: 'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com' > Subject: RE: Re[2]: So where are we? > Date: Thursday, February 18, 1999 5:49 PM > > jimi hendrix . . . flying v. it was done. also some pix with a les paul?? > in the (excellent) CD "south saturn Delta" - which features a ton of unreleased Jimi, there is a picture of him in session with a small horn section, he is seated, playing a Les Paul.... (the instrumental track is great, too, Jimi with Horns!!!) peace From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 13:22:39 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA04093; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:22:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:22:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <7089DA242CE0D111BE750020AFD36C744AC1@ZIPPY> From: Matt Blais To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Some Loop music on the web Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 13:01:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Resent-Message-ID: <"wAzQo3.0.G-7.qWQps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I have some samples of my loop music on my Yummage web site (URL below). They are in MP3 format, and were created with two Echoplexes, my voice, some effects, a Wavestation, and K2000. Enjoy! -- Matt __________________________________________________ ---------Healing and Spiritual Crisis--------- http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/blais.html ---------Yummage Unlimited!----------- http://yummage.hypermart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 14:44:40 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20635; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:44:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:44:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199902191649.LAA17063@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:15:05 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: idea/new feature Resent-Message-ID: <"V8NzC3.0.lf4.hqRps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com well, you already pay similar royalties on practically everything else in a PC. scsi, ethernet, mpeg, most of the core logic, processor busses, etc, etc, etc. Everything is patented, everything has a charge somewhere. I thought it was really funny the way people went into a tizzy over the idea of paying a royalty for 1394/firewire IP as well. I guess people don't mind paying for IP if they don't know they're paying for it. Sure makes them look dumb from my perspective.... kim At 8:46 AM -0800 2/19/99, Matt Peterson wrote: >Built-in on Macs and Sonys today. >Now if only Apple doesn't kill it by mandating that $1/port licensing >fee... > >2/19/99 2:49 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: > >>(Or maybe firewire will finally arrive, that would be even better.) > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 15:00:20 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA23898; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:00:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:00:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <36CDC0D0.531B@mdbs.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:51:44 -0500 From: "Dennis W. Leas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot References: <000e01be5bc7$0f1e0e00$a522a2d1@i658574> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4Ja-X.0.GM5.z2Sps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Welcome, Peter! This is fellow didjeriduist Dennis Leas. To my knowledge, yourself, Tom Lambrecht, and myself are the only folks on BOTH Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com and didjeridu@eartha.mills.edu. Certainly is interesting contrast, eh? - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 19:12:11 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA03157; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:12:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:12:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101be5c62$7406b6a0$ab0294ca@kaer-s> From: "Mentari & Suryo" To: Subject: typos Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:48:24 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"-weVl2.0.t9.zcVps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I recently send you : Those who likes looping ... try my music at www.mp3.com.malari the correct one is www.mp3.com/malari thanx to FLOYD MILLER MALARI From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 19:43:04 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA07964; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:43:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:43:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CE020E.275A5B98@uswest.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:30:06 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Thanks! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"sUNsJ1.0.xb1.dCWps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just a note of thanks for replies on my 'dying loop' EDP problem.... I believe it was that i accidently left 'Overdub' engaged, and it makes sense that Feedback would need to be reduced to prevent system overload... I appreciate everyone's suggestions! Thanks again, Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 21:07:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA19432; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:07:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:07:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: M3chakucha@aol.com Message-ID: <9bf3a50.36ce1578@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:52:56 EST To: kflint@annihilist.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: idea/new feature Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_919475576_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"BZeYE1.0.YT4.QRXps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_919475576_boundary Content-ID: <0_919475576@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dear Kim, Let us not forget that the processor itself also is kind enough to tell people out there on the net exactly where you are, and to some extent who. Intel finally caught up with Apple on that one unfortunately. Glad to see that AMD did not follow suit and is doing more in making their hardware and firmware more compatible and conducive to working with Linux. We also won't get into a discussion on why phone call prices are sky- rocketing when they should be plummeting; again it deals with ignorance on the part of the US consumer and it's irrational fear of technology and/or changes to the existing technology. It all gets back to information and the dissemination thereof. On a more musical note, remember how many pieces of equipment out there use the floppy disk drive from either the IBM or Apple side of the fence. How many pieces of equipment made such a choice and have then switched sides over the years? Akai, comes to mind on this issue. USB, it seems is the new format to jump upon and is supposed to be making it's way to synthesizers near us. Let alone the SCSI IIIUW hardware compliancy. Oh well, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth on this one. Tchus, Lee-ohki. In a message dated 2/19/99 2:40:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, kflint@annihilist.com writes: << Subj: Re: idea/new feature Date: 2/19/99 2:40:08 PM Eastern Standard Time From: kflint@annihilist.com (Kim Flint) Reply-to: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com well, you already pay similar royalties on practically everything else in a PC. scsi, ethernet, mpeg, most of the core logic, processor busses, etc, etc, etc. Everything is patented, everything has a charge somewhere. I thought it was really funny the way people went into a tizzy over the idea of paying a royalty for 1394/firewire IP as well. I guess people don't mind paying for IP if they don't know they're paying for it. Sure makes them look dumb from my perspective.... kim At 8:46 AM -0800 2/19/99, Matt Peterson wrote: >Built-in on Macs and Sonys today. >Now if only Apple doesn't kill it by mandating that $1/port licensing >fee... > >2/19/99 2:49 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: > >>(Or maybe firewire will finally arrive, that would be even better.) > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> --part0_919475576_boundary Content-ID: <0_919475576@inet_out.mail.annihilist.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd01.mail.aol.com (v56.26) with SMTP; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:40:07 -0500 Received: from rosy.yourwebhost.com (rosy.yourwebhost.com [209.239.39.1]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA06332; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20620; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:44:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 14:44:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199902191649.LAA17063@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:15:05 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: idea/new feature Resent-Message-ID: <"V8NzC3.0.lf4.hqRps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit well, you already pay similar royalties on practically everything else in a PC. scsi, ethernet, mpeg, most of the core logic, processor busses, etc, etc, etc. Everything is patented, everything has a charge somewhere. I thought it was really funny the way people went into a tizzy over the idea of paying a royalty for 1394/firewire IP as well. I guess people don't mind paying for IP if they don't know they're paying for it. Sure makes them look dumb from my perspective.... kim At 8:46 AM -0800 2/19/99, Matt Peterson wrote: >Built-in on Macs and Sonys today. >Now if only Apple doesn't kill it by mandating that $1/port licensing >fee... > >2/19/99 2:49 AM Kim Flint (kflint@annihilist.com) wrote: > >>(Or maybe firewire will finally arrive, that would be even better.) > ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --part0_919475576_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 21:25:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA22448; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:25:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:25:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902200224.VAA06363@ulster.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:16:11 -0500 Subject: "Rang SIMM From: "jmw/cmu" To: "Loopers-Delight" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"R1sEh.0._F5.-jXps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all, Can anyone out there tell me what type of SIMM is used in the Boomerang? (Strange as it may sound I couldn't find this info in the archives or on the Web) Thanks, jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 21:54:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA26042; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:54:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:54:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: M3chakucha@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 21:42:49 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: "Rang SIMM Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"fy4ut2.0.K86.99Yps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear JMW, The Boomerang uses 30-pin, non-parity, 120ns or faster SIMM's. Check out www.marketpro.com or www.pricewatch.com for the nearest computer show or for inexpensive prices respectively. You can save quite a bit, because 30-pin SIMMs are not really in use any more, and to be honest 72-pin SIMMs are nearly in the same boat, now! Hope this helps! Tchus, Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 22:23:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA29843; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:23:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:23:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001901be5c7e$62ca1c80$551bbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:09:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"MKmpa1.0.K37.HaYps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com AH,AH,AH, I Jeff Collins am too on the list. I just don't post to it. I more or less read things people say. I don't have much to share in the way's of the Didgeridu. Sincerely, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Dennis W. Leas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 2:55 PM Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot >Welcome, Peter! This is fellow didjeriduist Dennis Leas. To my knowledge, yourself, Tom >Lambrecht, and myself are the only folks on BOTH Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com and >didjeridu@eartha.mills.edu. Certainly is interesting contrast, eh? > >- Dennis Leas >-- >dennis@mdbs.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 19 23:02:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA02205; Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:02:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 23:02:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: Zoom SampleTrak ST-224 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 22:38:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be5c82$7a3b40c0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"dwZT32.0.2x7._yYps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just spied the new Zoom SampleTrak in Sound-on-Sound today. It looks like a Yamaha SU-10 on steroids, or an atrophied ASR-X. It seems like they'll sell for something like $300. Any body check these out?? It seems like a better tool than an SP-202. A brief description ... ** Sample time 60 sec. @ 32KHz up to 4 min. @ 8 Khz ** Maximum simultaneous sample - 8 mono or 4 stereo ** Tempo range 40-250 BPM ** Sophisticated Resampler function lets you resample any phrase again in the digital domain with effects ** Intelligent Autosync feature lets you match the tempos of different samples without changing pitch up to +/- 30 BPM ** 22 Zoom effects including Extreme EQ, Time Stretch, Lo-Fi, Scratch, Step Cry (Sample And Hold) and more ** 8 Song, 5,000 Note On-Board Sequencer ** 32 samples stored in memory with 24 available from 8 buttons chosen from 3 banks ** Easy Sample Editing with trim and split pad assign (also pad assign with apply "major scale" function ** Play List lets you record up to eight songs and assign them to any of the pads for real-time playback ** Real Time control for creative live performances ** MIDI-In capability and limited SysEx control ** 4 Mb Flash Memory/Data Card expandability. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 02:40:54 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA01445; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:40:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 02:40:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001001be5c3e$4cd35a80$287a070c@govinda> From: "Marc Roche" To: Subject: Re: I'm the $700 a**hole Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 05:34:20 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"e2OG52.0.K3.ZIcps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Peter Spoecker To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, February 19, 1999 5:13 AM Subject: Re: I'm the $700 a**hole > >Howdy: > >>>So I sold a Jamman for $700.. >>.I sold my Jamman last year for $500 to get the bread to buy the EDP and I was plaeased as punch. >> >>that doesn't make you an asshole, parting fools from their money is a fine >>tradition. feel proud. > > >I heard about this $700 ebay JamMan deal before I even got onto this list. >I'm glad that that's not a normal common price for a JamMan. I want a >second JamMan because I want to use a single pedal to control record on and >off for 2 units, not for stereo sampling, but for allowing overdubbing >without the first take getting too buried after a while. It's often nice to >start with a basic drum riff to build on top off, but you sure don't want >that drum riff getting too far back in the mix after a while. I figure >controlling 2 JamMans (Men?) simultaneously would allow me to use one for >the percussion bed and a second one to layer other stuff onto. Then you >could simply adjust the levels of the 2 units as you're building your piece. >Is there anybody out there with experience with JamMan & Echoplex both? >>From my study of the Echoplex manual it appears that it should be possible >to control record on and off on an Echoplex and a JamMan with the same >pedal. It would be quite easy to parallel wire a second cable out from a >simple switch type pedal. The loops should easily stay in sync for at least >half an hour or so. Phase coherence is not an issue in this case. Ideas? >Anyone with actual relevant experience? Also, what would be a reasonable >and realistic price to pay for a JamMan nowadays? I don't need the memory >upgrade as I have several obsolete and mostly non-functional Amigas with Zip >chips I can cannibalize. In case I can't find a JamMan, what is a realistic >used Echoplex price? I can also rob old Amigas of Simms for memory upgrade >for that. >Thanks for any help. > >Peter > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 09:20:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA11208; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:20:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:20:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:26:46 -0500 (EST) From: Stew Benedict To: looper list Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot In-Reply-To: <000e01be5bc7$0f1e0e00$a522a2d1@i658574> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"xxIjx.0.GM2.i7ips"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com How does one subscribe to the digd list? Thanks, Stew Benedict From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 09:44:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA14329; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:44:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:44:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000601be5ce0$246b6400$3e22a2d1@i658574> From: "Peter Spoecker" To: Subject: Re: Howdy and whatnot Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 06:48:55 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ln4NL2.0.fD3.XWips"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >How does one subscribe to the digd list? Send an email to listproc@eartha.mills.edu with nothing in the body but: subscribe didjeridu Your Name. Nothing in the subject field From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 17:35:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA21850; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:35:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:35:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: M3chakucha@aol.com Message-ID: <6b845fdd.36cf3439@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:16:25 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Older Effects Units. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Resent-Message-ID: <"EUDe3.0.6s4.yLpps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Looper's Delight, Help! Picked up a Digitech TSR-24S and I am in need of a manual! Anyone out there have one for this unit that is stored electronically and can be sent out as a *.txt, *.rtf, *.wpd, *.doc, or *.pdf file? Feel free to send it as a *.zip or *.lzh should you choose. Thanks a bunch, again! Lee-ohki. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 18:04:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA25561; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:04:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:04:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CF3C53.6033@dmans.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:50:59 -0600 From: "Mikell D. Nelson" Reply-To: mnelson@dmans.com Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Boomerang @ Harmony Central References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"pkUtR3.0.mp5.8npps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Patrick Smith wrote: > > I don't know if this is a good price or not, but for those who are > interested I just found htis at Harmnony Central: > > FS: Boomerang Phrase Sampler $300. > > Asking Price: US$300 > Condition: Mint > Age: 1 year > Description: > > Hardly used Boomerang Phrase Sampler; 4 Min. maximum recording time, > looping > capabilities and the best backwards playback in the business. Foot > switches for > looping, half-speed, reversal, etc. List $650., sell $300. Includes > manual and > AC adaptor. Hi all, The MSRP (retail price) of a new Rang is $599. The "street price" for a new Rang is typically $459-$499, depending on where you live and your relationship with your local dealer. $300 sounds like a great price for a Rang in excellent condition. Mike Nelson at Boomerang Musical Products From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 19:10:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA01330; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:10:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:10:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CF4CA4.11A1@dmans.com> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:00:36 -0600 From: "Mikell D. Nelson" Reply-To: mnelson@dmans.com Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: "Rang SIMM References: <199902200224.VAA06363@ulster.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"BliT73.0.8-7.Ooqps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Can anyone out there tell me what type of SIMM is used in the Boomerang? > > (Strange as it may sound I couldn't find this info in the archives or on the > Web) Howdy, The Rang uses either a 1Mbyte 30-pin SIMM (30 sec / 1 min record time) or a 4Mbyte 30-pin SIMM (2 min / 4 min record time). Either way, any speed and any parity is acceptable. We're not picky. I hope this helps. Mike Nelson at Boomerang Musical Products From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 19:17:31 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA02436; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:17:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 19:17:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Posted-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:03:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990220180559.008f8490@POP.VISI.com> X-Sender: zwicky@POP.VISI.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 18:05:59 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Jam-Man Schematics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"hB1JB2.0.SE.lvqps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Last year there was mention of someone scanning and posting the schematics for the Lexicon Jam-Man on the web page. Is this pending? -Chuck Zwicky ........................................................................... But they are useless. They can only give you answers. -Picasso, on computers. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 20 21:27:28 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA19826; Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:27:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 21:27:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 20:41:20 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Re: Older Effects Units. Resent-Message-ID: <"kD4Vh3.0.8T4.yosps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lee-ohki wrote: >Dear Looper's Delight, > >Help! Picked up a Digitech TSR-24S and I am in need of a manual! Anyone out >there have one for this unit that is stored electronically and can be sent out >as a *.txt, *.rtf, *.wpd, *.doc, or *.pdf file? Feel free to send it as a >*.zip or *.lzh should you choose. Thanks a bunch, again! > I do not have this manual and if you do not find one, Rogue Music in NEw York CIty genrally has manuals for everything. They charge a very reasonable fee for photo copying it. Thier phone number is 212-629-5073. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 01:50:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA22911; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:50:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 01:50:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36CFA842.84B4D629@latrobe.edu.au> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 17:31:31 +1100 From: "b.knox" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Name Game References: <3.0.6.32.19990218181251.007d1df0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"EEOvk2.0.bC5.jdwps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i once heard the echoplex refered to as the *complex* by a jamman/dulcimer equipped busker dude... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 13:40:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA13977; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:40:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:40:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: GRAIGORY2@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:09:48 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Drum Loop Sites Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"To_X6.0.lc2.ks4qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I was wondering if any of you may be able to refer me to any drum loop sites on the internet that offers free downloads in either .wav or .mp3 format... peace B-double-O From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 14:28:21 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20670; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:28:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:28:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: Drum Loop Sites Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:14:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be5dce$62d45000$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"ncYNJ1.0.Rh4.Im5qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The ~best~ site I found was Phatso's Place ... http://www.2xtreme.net/mhat/drums.html -----Original Message----- From: GRAIGORY2@aol.com [mailto:GRAIGORY2@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 1999 1:10 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Drum Loop Sites I was wondering if any of you may be able to refer me to any drum loop sites on the internet that offers free downloads in either .wav or .mp3 format... peace B-double-O From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 14:55:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA24545; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:55:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:55:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902211939.LAA26682@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 13:37:25 -0600 Subject: gr-30 and pk-5 compatability From: "Mathew Kaarlela/Davin Auble" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"34EtJ.0.cb5.A86qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com When using the pk-5 with the gr-30 I run into this problem. The pk is in bass mode which holds a single note until canceled or a new note is triggered which is then held and so on. However, if I also play the guitar I find myself limited to 5 of the 6 strings. One of the strings when played will cause the note being held by the pk to cut off while the other five can be played without cutting off the note. I have tried using different midi channels and the problem may switch strings but still remains. I would like to be able to play chords freely on the guitar while using the pk for sustained bass parts. I am new to the world of midi and am just beginning my education. What books would people recommend? Does any one have a solution to this particular problem? Thank You. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 16:01:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA03283; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:01:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:01:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: Jungle Funk -- Back From Europe Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 15:39:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be5dda$3c13d920$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"QPu912.0.ix7.r_6qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com FYI ... Jungle Funk looping with Doug Wimbish on bass, Will Calhoun on drums and Vinx on percussion/vox is back from Europe and playing shows in the US. Date City Venue ============================================== 03/31/99 Providence, RI To Be Announced 04/01/99 Boston, MA To Be Announced 04/02/99 New York, NY S.O.B.'S 04/03/99 Philadelphia, PA North Star Bar From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 19:37:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA31816; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:37:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:37:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990221162525.0165dec0> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 16:25:25 -0800 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"bdDkM3.0.qS7.6IAqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've put together a little app for backing up and restoring Digitech PMC 10 data. A couple of you asked me to make an announcement about this when it was ready. I won't post to the list about this anymore as there is now a web site for it. More info is available at: http://sean_.home.mindspring.com/pmc/index.html And now back to your regularly scheduled looping... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 21:56:09 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA14614; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:56:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:56:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:33:53 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"HsWtM1.0.dy2.IDCqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sean, Thanks alot. You the man! Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 22:33:52 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA20739; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:33:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 22:33:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36D0C9E0.263790BE@usa.net> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 19:07:12 -0800 From: posterazzi Organization: . 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Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"eODw-2.0.KZ4.MoCqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com anyone interested in selling a 12 string stick rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 21 23:45:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA30561; Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:45:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:45:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <3ad37a8a.36d0da3a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 23:16:58 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"YdBHc1.0.xq6.VnDqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I know this is sounding really, greedy, but could you do a MAC version? ;) Best, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 08:47:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA22587; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:47:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:47:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 08:18:06 -0500 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: Digitech RDS modification Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: <199902220818_MC2-6B5F-F49@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"la9LD.0.Em4.hhLqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Kim, I don't remember the position of the pot u have to turn for the modification exactly, because I don't have my Time Machine anymore but I will look it up in my friends delay. I will see him next week. Would somebody be so kind to post " Alto's " address again for me ? He seems to be the one where I could get an EDP at a reasonable price. What' s his price, again ? Thank u Leander From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 13:42:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA03760; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:42:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:42:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990222101335.016443e0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:13:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] In-Reply-To: <3ad37a8a.36d0da3a@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"42bKB2.0.kH7.axPqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've got a feeling you already know the answer - there will not be a Mac version. But if you have access to a Windows machine and wanted to check out the app with your PMC 10 data, you could do a MIDI Data Dump to your Mac as long as you save the dump as raw sysex without any Mac file header stuff. The app reads and stores PMC 10 dumps to file as raw sysex. A raw sysex file for the PMC 10 should have F0 for the first byte and F7 as the last byte (as viewed in a hex file view utility). sean At 11:16 PM 2/21/99 EST, Fmplautus@aol.com wrote: >I know this is sounding really, greedy, but could you do a MAC version? ;) > >Best, >Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 13:50:42 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05847; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:50:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:50:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990222181548.8428.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:15:48 -0800 (PST) From: "Rev. Doubt-Goat" Subject: Re: Gibson address / Feedback problem To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"FHa791.0.xn7.I5Qqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com 93 > At 4:29 PM -0800 2/18/99, Leander REININGHAUS wrote: > > >By the way, did you Digitech RDS owners know that you can get get a bit > >more delay time out of your > >Time Machine by adjusting an internal trim pot ? > >I got my RDS 7.6 ( which I don't have anymore ) " tuned " to 9 secs and a > >friend of mine his even to 12 !! I actually did this mod to both of my old RDS 7.6'ers. The tech who did the mod for me informed me that tweaking those trim pots actually f*cked with the bais of the machine. I did it not to get more delay time, but to get godzilla runaway feedback. The end result was that I also got about 10 sec. of delay out of one and 9 out of the other. The repeats disintegrate pretty severely after about 6 or 8 repeats, but that can be a cool thing in and of itself. The only reason I sold 1 of my 7.6'ers was the pitch drift was driving me nutty and to fund a Jamman. The other sits in my recording rack as a more or less standard delay. Anyway... 93 Rev. Doubt-Goat === The Homepages of the Doubt-Goat The Darsan Trio Sekhet Maat Oasis, O.T.O. Lion & Serpent http://www.easystreet.com/~twilliam _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 13:54:32 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA06669; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:54:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:54:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:29:45 -0800 Message-ID: <00197326.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" , Sean Echevarria Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"sW9HF2.0.8V.pFQqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sean I've tried to go to that URL and I get 404'ed... I went to your site and found the link you've included for the PMC-10 editor and it takes me to the Digitech site instead of your editor. Am I missing something, or is this still under construction? Thanks, -Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] Author: Sean Echevarria at INTERNET Date: 2/21/99 7:37 PM I've put together a little app for backing up and restoring Digitech PMC 10 data. A couple of you asked me to make an announcement about this when it was ready. I won't post to the list about this anymore as there is now a web site for it. More info is available at: http://sean_.home.mindspring.com/pmc/index.html And now back to your regularly scheduled looping... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 15:28:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA23507; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:28:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 15:28:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Stevaum@aol.com Message-ID: <578e42be.36d1b5eb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 14:54:19 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Greetings from a new Looper Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 53 Resent-Message-ID: <"00HE71.0.1Z4.rURqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've just joined the Looper's Delight website! Please check out my Profile: sTeVo iN yR sTuDiO + Pupaum I have used looping extensively in both my audio & video art. I am very interested in hearing from other Loopers who have worked in video!!! All other inquiries are also welcome. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 22:18:43 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA06281; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:18:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:18:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:26:18 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: ALto Phone nUmber Resent-Message-ID: <"sWvzx1.0.3x.6fXqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 2/22/99 Leander said: >Would somebody be so kind to post " Alto's " address again for me ? >He seems to be the one where I could get an EDP at a reasonable price. >What' s his price, again ? Call Alto Music @ (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and ask for John. The price is $560 US. The time is Eastern Standard Time. Sorry no address handy. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Feb 22 22:31:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA08251; Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:31:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:31:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <259d80e2.36d21ad1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:04:49 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Digitech PMC 10 software [non-loop content] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Resent-Message-ID: <"V7XfC1.0.hT1.MsXqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Sean. Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I think i can save Sysex to Mac. I'll check out a window's connection. Best, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 23 02:36:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA04355; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:36:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:36:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990223072229.5589.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bret Subject: Re: the CDs To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"l1N0k2.0.so.3Xbqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Matt, I wrote several weeks ago regarding this, but I need your mailing address so I can send a check to buy more CDs. You had written and quoted me $4 each (rounded up from $3.60, I believe). I want to get some more CDs as I have given all mine away. thanks, bret _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 23 06:36:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA23389; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:36:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:36:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36D28A6B.EB151A20@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:00:59 +0000 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Llive lloops References: <199902230810.DAA07717@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HOVdW.0.865.lgeqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Guys, Llive llooping in Cardiff, Wales Wednesday evening featuring modified guitar with violin bow and Ebow, (the old one) a zoom 8080 and live computer processing using audiomulch. Ethnopsychedelistribalgranulatedoose. Chapter Arts Centre, Canton, Cardiff UK Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 23 07:00:58 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA25475; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:00:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:00:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:15:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Re: Llive lloops Resent-Message-ID: <"uFVRF2.0.j_5.DPfqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On 2/23/99 Gareth described his live music as: >Ethnopsychedelistribalgranulatedoose. WOW!!! Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 23 09:25:17 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA06825; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:25:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:25:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:09:44 -0500 (EST) From: Neal Trembath X-Sender: ntrembat@gecko To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: looking for loopers and weirdos in NYC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"YyB5u2.0._J1.AVhqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm just moved to NYC and looking for competent, odd open jam sessions to go nuts in. Neal (remove "nospam.") From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 23 10:29:49 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA14872; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:29:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:29:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990223150807.7576.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:08:07 -0800 (PST) From: petr dolak Subject: Looping in Chicago To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"mqRWw2.0.E63.DLiqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Looping in Chicago's Hyde Park Wednesday February 24, at 10 p.m. University of Chicago's Reynolds Club, C-Shop Petr Dolak (voice, electric and acoustic gitars, looping devices) Anna Milazzo (voice, harmonium, typewriter, bottles, percussion) == Nasledujici oznameni je bohuzel nevyhnutelne. V zadnem pripade ale neznamena, ze bych osobne chtel propagovat tuto spolecnost. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Feb 23 14:49:53 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA29813; Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:49:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:49:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:22:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902231922.OAA14465@user1.channel1.com> Old-X-Envelope-To: X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: Looping in Boston - 2/26 Resent-Message-ID: <"Wjsyl.0.OA6.U4mqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com An unoffical Loopers Delight Vol. 2 CD release party will take place at Jacque's, 79 Broadway, Boston (Bay Village, behind the Cinema 57) on Friday night, February 26, 1999. David Kirkdorffer (UNDO) will play a set of improvised looped guitar pieces. Following his set, he will be joined by Frank Gerace (VG8 Guitar and looping devices) and Cheryl Wanner (voice, wire strung harp, looping devices) in a set of spontaneous pieces. The evening will end with a set by Dreamchild, featuring new material as wellas material from their CD Gates To The Sea. Opening the night will be ambient artist Morse Code. Doors open at 9:00 PM. 21+. Cds will be available at the show. Frank Gerace Dreamchild http://www.channel1.com/users/seahorse From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 02:11:57 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA15866; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 02:11:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 02:11:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE5FCA.EEBDEF10.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: Looping in Boston - 2/26 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:27:48 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CkAe43.0.oY3.7Dwqs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > An unoffical Loopers Delight Vol. 2 CD release party will take place > at Jacque's, 79 Broadway, Boston (Bay Village, behind the Cinema 57) on > Friday night, February 26, 1999. too bad I can't be there. Have a great night! * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * hop - fractals in motion: strange attractors * http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 12:36:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA06804; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:36:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:36:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199902241806.NAA05356@scylla.cowles.com> X-Authentication-Warning: scylla.cowles.com: mail set sender to using -f X-Sender: rswitzer@mailserver.cowles.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:57:24 -0500 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com From: Robert Switzer Subject: Great music from Crevice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Wv8C81.0.m_7.z93rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just did a CD exchange with listmate James Sidlo, and the CD he sent me by his band Crevice is great -- things start out well within the standard looping vocabulary -- Fripp, Torn, etc. -- but, just when you think you know where things are going, the going gets wierd! Crevice is a six piece band playing looped music/sampledelia live in real time. Delightful, and highly recommended. http://www.stic.net/users/jameshsidlo, http://www.unclebuzz.com. BTW, I'm offering the newest *echovirus* single 'BlindFold DisFunktion', along with the original Ed Chang improv from which it was derived in a special limited CD-R edition of 25. Each CD-R is individually burned and thoroughly tested, packaged in original artwork, signed, and numbered. To get a copy, send me your original music! CD, CD-R, DAT, cassette, LP; it matters not. Or, if you don't have a trade, I'll send it anywhere for $10.00. I'm also interested in additional remix collaborations -- right now, I'm liking acoustic free improv and/or lofi electronics, but will consider anything. Email me privately for details. rob ----------------------- New by *echovirus* 'BlindFold DisFunktion' now playing at mp3.com http://www.mp3.com/evirus From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 13:31:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA22485; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:31:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:31:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:05:06 -0500 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: RE: RDS mod / Alto's address Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199902241305_MC2-6BB0-1777@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"93mPz3.0.PB4.J24rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi everybody, - Rev. Doubt-Goat wrote: "...tweaking this pot means f*cking with the bi= as of the machine..." That's right, this is what I meant by saying the frequency range would suffer. You can turn up the pot to the point when the sound gets " crackling " ..., and that's different on every machine. The feedback can be altered to the point when you get feedback-windup ( = like on old analog machines ) by weldering a capacitor on the fb-pot. I don't remember the right value = of the capacitor and if you have to put = it in serial or parallel. I'm no tech at all, so please, don't sew me for= my humble opinion. I'd say, you have to do whatever has to be done to stretch the pots range= on the upper end... - Patrick wrote Alto's address and his EDP's price... Thanks for the information ! Alto's price is really unbeaten ! I'd like to know if that price includes the footpedal or not ( because I= don't need another one ) and if I could order it without? - Hey Kim, = please, would you tell me anything necessary for ordering the EDP's software update ? Thanx in advance ! So long, Leander From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 14:14:14 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA31208; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:14:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:14:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001801be6026$a9d22d60$e16703cf@rjiredff> From: "Jonathan Brainin" To: Subject: Re: RDS mod / Alto's address Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:51:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"PSc5g2.0.pa6.pi4rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >- Patrick wrote Alto's address and his EDP's price... Crafties are so helpful! >Thanks for the information ! >Alto's price is really unbeaten ! >I'd like to know if that price includes the footpedal or not ( because I >don't need another one ) and if I could order it without? The $560 price is without the foot controller. take care, Jonathan From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 18:48:22 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA25350; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:48:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:48:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <37e1b67a.36d48908@aol.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:19:36 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Great music from Crevice Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"NO_En.0.Dg5.sn8rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/24/99 3:31:09 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, rswitzer@721.com writes: << Crevice is a six piece band playing looped music/sampledelia live in real time. Delightful, and highly recommended. http://www.stic.net/users/jameshsidlo, http://www.unclebuzz.com. >> couldnt agree more........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 19:39:34 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA08677; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:39:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:39:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002e01be6054$5e211ba0$385b37cb@yamin.labyrinth.net.au> From: "ben" To: Subject: can anyone help? Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:18:26 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE60B0.90A81E00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"KCgPE2.0.Ag.iY9rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE60B0.90A81E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, my name is ben blay, i'm from melbourne australia. i am desperately = trying to track down (and buy) an echoplex, jamman or equivelent. i have = searched australia, but had no luck, so i was wondering if anyone has = one to sell me, anywhere in the world. it would be a great help to me, = as i am experimenting with vocal loops, drum, bass, and lead. i need = this to be able to perform, and i know when i get my hands on one, my = whole world will change. pleas let me know of any leads i can follow up, = and thanks again. from PLEASE HELP ME, ben blay, melbourne australia yamin@sprint.com.au ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE60B0.90A81E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi, my name is ben blay, i'm from = melbourne=20 australia. i am desperately trying to track down (and buy) an echoplex, = jamman=20 or equivelent. i have searched australia, but had no luck, so i was = wondering if=20 anyone has one to sell me, anywhere in the world. it would be a great = help to=20 me, as i am experimenting with vocal loops, drum, bass, and lead. i need = this to=20 be able to perform, and i know when i get my hands on one, my whole = world will=20 change. pleas let me know of any leads i can follow up, and thanks=20 again.
from PLEASE HELP ME,
ben blay, melbourne = australia
yamin@sprint.com.au
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BE60B0.90A81E00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 20:19:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA19149; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:19:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:19:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE6017.31131100.stevehan@transworld-lax.com> From: Steve Han Reply-To: "stevehan@transworld-lax.com" To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: RE: Looping in Chicago Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:13:41 -0800 Organization: Transworld Freight Systems X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"umSM3.0.lC4.M9Ars"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Petr and Anna, I wish I lived in Chicago so that I can attend your performance. I'm stuck in LA. Good luck in your performance. Typewriter and Bottles !!!!! Push that envelope !!!! Steve (Curbie) -----Original Message----- From: petr dolak [SMTP:pepetr@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 7:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Looping in Chicago Looping in Chicago's Hyde Park Wednesday February 24, at 10 p.m. University of Chicago's Reynolds Club, C-Shop Petr Dolak (voice, electric and acoustic gitars, looping devices) Anna Milazzo (voice, harmonium, typewriter, bottles, percussion) == Nasledujici oznameni je bohuzel nevyhnutelne. V zadnem pripade ale neznamena, ze bych osobne chtel propagovat tuto spolecnost. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 20:59:05 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA26017; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:59:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:59:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36D4650E.998B65@columbus.rr.com> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:46:09 +0000 From: Darrell Jones Reply-To: djones01@columbus.rr.com Organization: Intra Sites X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: can anyone help? References: <002e01be6054$5e211ba0$385b37cb@yamin.labyrinth.net.au> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------405A4F22D0194F8DA15613DB" Resent-Message-ID: <"QerOg3.0.G26.QnArs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------405A4F22D0194F8DA15613DB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/22/99 Leander said: >Would somebody be so kind to post " Alto's " address again for me ? >He seems to be the one where I could get an EDP at a reasonable price. >What' s his price, again ? Call Alto Music @ (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and ask for John. The price is $560 US. The time is Eastern Standard Time. Sorry no address handy. Patrick ben wrote: > hi, my name is ben blay, i'm from melbourne australia. i am > desperately trying to track down (and buy) an echoplex, jamman or > equivelent. i have searched australia, but had no luck, so i was > wondering if anyone has one to sell me, anywhere in the world. it > would be a great help to me, as i am experimenting with vocal loops, > drum, bass, and lead. i need this to be able to perform, and i know > when i get my hands on one, my whole world will change. pleas let me > know of any leads i can follow up, and thanks again.from PLEASE HELP > ME,ben blay, melbourne australiayamin@sprint.com.au --------------405A4F22D0194F8DA15613DB Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2/22/99 Leander said:

>Would somebody be so kind to post  " Alto's " address again for me ?
>He seems to be the one where I could get an EDP at a reasonable price.
>What' s his price, again ?

 Call Alto Music @ (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and
ask for John. The price is $560 US. The time is Eastern Standard Time.
Sorry no address handy.

Patrick

ben wrote:

 hi, my name is ben blay, i'm from melbourne australia. i am desperately trying to track down (and buy) an echoplex, jamman or equivelent. i have searched australia, but had no luck, so i was wondering if anyone has one to sell me, anywhere in the world. it would be a great help to me, as i am experimenting with vocal loops, drum, bass, and lead. i need this to be able to perform, and i know when i get my hands on one, my whole world will change. pleas let me know of any leads i can follow up, and thanks again.from PLEASE HELP ME,ben blay, melbourne australiayamin@sprint.com.au
--------------405A4F22D0194F8DA15613DB-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 21:28:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA30514; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:28:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:28:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:13:06 -0500 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: Looper's party Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199902242114_MC2-6BC1-F783@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"7-BQj3.0.A37.aCBrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi folks, Frank Gerace wrote about the CD party.... I really regret that i can't be there but I wish all participators a hole= lotta fun ! Anything available on CD from metalstrung harpist Cherryl Wanner ? Leander From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Feb 24 22:30:44 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA07092; Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:30:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:30:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:42:40 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Alto e-mail address Resent-Message-ID: <"U-0Ew2.0.EI1.Q4Crs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm not sure that they are ready for on-line ordering yet, but I received thier e-mail address recently and some of you may find it useful. "ALTO MUSIC" Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT "fascinating aural images...luminous portraits of sound & vision..." Outburn 8 www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 25 08:58:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA07308; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:58:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:58:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902251324.IAA06734@ulster.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:21:28 -0500 Subject: Alto Music Website From: "jmw/cmu" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"un4Oh1.0.Fo.IyKrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I'm not sure that they are ready for on-line ordering yet, but I received >thier e-mail address recently and some of you may find it useful. > >"ALTO MUSIC" They even have a website now: http://www.altomusic.com Not much there at the moment... jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 25 11:18:07 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA26134; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:18:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:18:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:00:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199902251600.LAA18967@user1.channel1.com> X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: Re: Looper's party Resent-Message-ID: <"j-eTc1.0.Yp5.8JNrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09:13 PM 2/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi folks, > >Anything available on CD from metalstrung harpist Cherryl Wanner ? > > >Leander Leander, (and anyone else who's interested) So far, Cheryl's only recorded output on the wirestrung harp is two cuts on the Dreamchild CD Gates To The Sea (see the web address below for more on that). There are no pieces yet recorded where she loops it. You can email me off list if you're interested. Thanks to all for allowing a semi commercial interruption of your looping activities. Frank Gerace Dreamchild http://www.channel1.com/users/seahorse > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Feb 25 18:27:37 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA05279; Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:27:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:27:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 23:59:16 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: Re: can anyone help? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <36D5D5C4.3494@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <002e01be6054$5e211ba0$385b37cb@yamin.labyrinth.net.au> Resent-Message-ID: <"4p9wL2.0.hp7.wOTrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ben wrote: > > hi, my name is ben blay, i'm from melbourne australia. i am > desperately trying to track down (and buy) an echoplex, jamman or > equivelent. i have searched australia, but had no luck, so i was > wondering if anyone has one to sell me, anywhere in the world. it > would be a great help to me, as i am experimenting with vocal loops, > drum, bass, and lead. i need this to be able to perform, and i know > when i get my hands on one, my whole world will change. pleas let me > know of any leads i can follow up, and thanks again. > from PLEASE HELP ME, > ben blay, melbourne australia > yamin@sprint.com.au Alto Music 680 Route 211E Middletown, NY 10941-1757 USA Phone: (914) 692 6922 - talk to Jon Fax: (914) 692 5551 Good luck! - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 26 10:21:13 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA24119; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:21:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:21:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990226145131.12011.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 06:51:31 -0800 (PST) From: petr dolak Subject: LOOPING IN CHICAGO To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"Q4kR13.0.7k4.WJhrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com LOOPING IN CHICAGO Petr Dolák (voice, electric and acoustic gitars, looping devices) Anna Milazzo (voice, harmonium, bottles, typewriter, percussion) Petr Dolak and Anna Milazzo will perform their compositions on the occassion of opening of the new exposition "Transience: Chinese Experimental Art at the End of the 20th Century". The event will be at the Smart Museum, 5550 S. Greenwood on Thursday, March 4. Opening and gallery tours and refreshments 6:00-8:00 Concert 8:00-9:00 ________________________________________________________________ == Nasledujici oznameni je bohuzel nevyhnutelne. V zadnem pripade ale neznamena, ze bych osobne chtel propagovat tuto spolecnost. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 26 10:38:00 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA27461; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:38:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:38:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003301be6196$4651b0a0$5307883e@darren> From: "Darren Woolsey" To: Subject: Trading live tapes Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:31:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE6194.B06648E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"2GYDO2.0.qR4.REhrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE6194.B06648E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I've been listening to the music of Fred Frith, Henry Kaiser, and John = Zorn, for just a couple of years now, and I want to trade live = recordings with anyone and everyone. I have started to collect and build = a small library, but its pretty meagre, and I'm sure there are loads of = recordings out there. Can anyone help?? Cheers=20 Darren =20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE6194.B06648E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
I've been listening to the music of = Fred Frith,=20 Henry Kaiser, and John Zorn, for just a couple of years now, and I want = to trade=20 live recordings with anyone and everyone. I have started to collect and = build a=20 small library, but its pretty meagre, and I'm sure there are loads of = recordings=20 out there. Can anyone help??
 
Cheers 
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------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE6194.B06648E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 26 12:22:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA13801; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:22:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:22:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9f650480.36d6cb87@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 11:27:51 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: lexicon MPX G2 review Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"kVdiH1.0.hI1.Glirs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the new (april) "guitar player" has a review of the lexicon mpx g2 what i found interesting was the fact that this box has a 20 sec. jam-man in it, at least that is how i understood the article.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 26 12:40:29 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA16628; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:40:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:40:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9f650480.36d6cb87@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:12:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: lexicon MPX G2 review Resent-Message-ID: <"ArYUG.0.xu.7Mjrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >the new (april) "guitar player" has a review of the lexicon mpx g2 what i >found interesting was the fact that this box has a 20 sec. jam-man in it, at >least that is how i understood the article.......michael It does, but it doesn't have nearly the functionality of the original jamman. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Feb 26 14:32:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA05843; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:32:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:32:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 14:07:58 -0500 (EST) From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <199902261907.OAA09735@badboy.micro.lucent.com> To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Resent-Message-ID: <"mILWK1.0.vM.35lrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice for February, 1999. (Shows #99 to #103; 1/28/99 to 2/25/99) Reported in alphabetical order by album title. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net <== New Address!!! ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co. - 1970-1973 - Cuneiform VA - The Ambient Eclipse - Mirage Synergy - Audion - Third Contact Steve Roach & Vir Unis - Body Electric - Projekt Fountainhead - Cloud Cover - Aucourant Under the Dome - The Demon Haunted World - Neu Harmony Dweller At The Threshold - Dweller At The Threshold - Eurock Synergy - Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra - Third Contact Jon Jenkins - Flow - Spotted Peccary Synergy - Games - Third Contact VA - GoldTri: Volume Two - Stonker Spacecraft - Hummel - Lektronic Sounscapes Ma Ja Le & Vir Unis - Imaginarium - Mirage Laocoon - Immersion - Parnassus Nump VA - Is Anybody Out There? - Champagne Lake, SMD, AD Music Liquid Mind - Liquid Mind III/Balance - Chuck Wild The Ministry Of Inside Things - Live at the ICA - Synkronos VA - The Other World - Hypnos Synergy - Sequencer - Third Contact Wendy Carlos - Sonic Seasonings + - ESD From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 27 01:41:51 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA10454; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:41:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:41:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <1ab93448.36d7921b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:35:07 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: what were those pedals? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Resent-Message-ID: <"sDCPE3.0.QQ2.e9vrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com there was some talk a bit ago about these korg(?) pedals i think they was something8000 there were 2 of them one did mostly time based stuff the other filter stuff what were they called oh, and what was that new stomp box looper something head thanks rodrigo oh, i know ive said his before but is anyone selling a grand stick? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 27 03:40:27 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA25152; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:40:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 03:40:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36D7B117.6727@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 00:47:19 -0800 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: what were those pedals? References: <1ab93448.36d7921b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YvKYa2.0.aw5.frwrs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com They are the AM8000R and the DL8000R,there's a great review by David Coffin at Harmony Central. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 27 08:49:15 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA09212; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:49:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:49:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: what were those pedals? Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 08:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be6257$4a7263c0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1ab93448.36d7921b@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"C6xT82.0.n72.9R_rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Rodrigo- Well, as for the last one, I think your we're looking for the new Akai E1 Headrush Tap Delay/Tape Echo Simulator/Looping Recorder. It's a 16-bit digital delay with up to 28 sec. For more information, checkout ... http://www.akai.com/akaipro/namm99.html I think Musician's Friend is selling them for $199.00, but I don't know if they actually have them in stock. Don't forget that you can always search the archives from the Looper's Delight web page for what was previously discussed about this pedal as well. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Kriist@aol.com [mailto:Kriist@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 1999 1:35 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: what were those pedals? there was some talk a bit ago about these korg(?) pedals i think they was something8000 there were 2 of them one did mostly time based stuff the other filter stuff what were they called oh, and what was that new stomp box looper something head thanks rodrigo oh, i know ive said his before but is anyone selling a grand stick? From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 27 09:08:38 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA12281; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:08:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:08:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: Great Show At The Knitting Factory! Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 09:02:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be6259$cc3b91e0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"F-AHe2.0.Bo2.yh_rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I got to catch a great show last night at the Knitting Factory in NYC billed as "Punk-FunK Harmodelic". The billed line-up was Jamaaladeen Tacuma(b), Marc Ribot(g) & Calvin Weston(d), but when they got onstage, a keyboard player (???) and two sax players joined them, one of whom was John Zorn and the other I didn't recognize. He looked like Dennis Rodman playing the tenor sax! It was a great show from some spontaneous playing outside playing by Zorn to Jamal and Calvin laying down some funky grooves. Jamal is a great player and has his own style when it comes to tearing up the bass. He mixes his classic chromatic runs with large interval leaps on the neck. He is still considered one of the greatest bass players in my book, although many seemed to have forgotten about him. One CD by Jamal to check out is his DIW release called "Dreamscape". They will be playing at the Knitting Factory again on April 2nd. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 27 16:03:55 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA08611; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:03:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 16:03:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: MrBERWELL@aol.com Message-ID: <59b78e49.36d85c66@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 15:58:14 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Great Show At The Knitting Factory! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"Ku3ox3.0.5t1.ho5ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Rodman lookalike sax player was Micah Gaugh, who you only ever see sitting in at other peoples gigs. But he does get around. The keyboardist was Manny, although I dont think Ive ever seen or heard him before. Jamaaladeen is a bad-ass!! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Feb 27 22:48:10 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA07485; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:48:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:48:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: syvonne@earthlink.net Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990227191015.00795790@earthlink.net> X-Sender: syvonne@earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 19:10:15 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: echoplex Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"-KA662.0.7-.1WBss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi! ran across some info about the echoplex and owner's manuals...was one ever produced? My son just got an echoplex and would like info/tips on how to operate his EP-2.... Thanks! Sharon From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 10:55:03 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA05388; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:55:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:55:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:44:56 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: G2 Looping/Bug (was:lexicon MPX G2 review) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"LDlDM1.0.L51.1JMss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 2/26/99 12:38:59 PM, edwin@indra.com writes: >>the new (april) "guitar player" has a review of the lexicon mpx g2 what >i >>found interesting was the fact that this box has a 20 sec. jam-man in >it, at >>least that is how i understood the article.......michael I don't know about the original JamMan, but I've been exploring a G2 for several weeks, using a MIDI pedal (Roland FC-200) and focusing mostly on its delay functions. The new JamMan is a 0-20 sec. mono delay line with feedback control and several on/off toggle switches that aren't typical, or available in the other G2 delay algorithms: Delay Clear, Layer, Replace, Delay (turns looper into a mono delay...but without retaining the length set when looping (!?)), and Mute, which is a Stop/Restart-from-beginning function. You can assign any attached pedals or switches to these functions; works well with my FC-200. To start a loop you hit whatever you've set for your tap switch, and the display shows a shortening horizontal bar to indicate remaining delay time. Hit Tap again to stop recording and play loop. The manual also shows that you can place other fx modules inside the feedback loop of the JamMan, but this is a misprint. However, you can set up the other delay algorithms (which will let you insert other fx) to loop also, by placing a volume module in front of the delay after splitting the signal to place the delay on a parallel path to the non-delayed signal. I assigned one external foot switch to control input to the delay by toggling this volume on/off (could have been a foot pedal, for shaping the envelope of the input volume), and another switch to toggle feedback from 0-100 (also could be a pedal). This way you can choose either mono or stereo delay, giving (ideally) 10 sec. stereo loops. UNFORTUNATELY, there is a bug in the system that switches, above 5.6 secs of delay time, the stereo delay to an interesting (if choosable!) variation in which one side of the delay uses the preset or tapped time, and the other uses half of it, so you get a nice long ping-pong effect...but no more true stereo delay. I pointed this out to Greg Hogan at Lexicon, who came back a day or so later to say in effect: "Hmmm, yes, this is what happens on the in-house G2s also; it's a bug...and I guess we'll fix it, but don't hold your breath!" Nevertheless, this setup is quite nice. I was able to place an auto wah on the non-delayed routing, and a step filter on the delay line without exhausting the DSP resources--lost stereo imaging, tho. The JamMan and the Stereo delay line use 23-25 out of a possible 190 units of DSP power. The Gain block and the reverb block can always be used...but in my opinion, there's not much you'd want to do with the gain functions besides clean tones, at least for emulating amps--get a POD (a very interesting device--nice slow-gear effect, and over 3 sec. of delay, besides extremely cool amp tones). G2's reverb is great, of course. A very capable machine; will be more so when they get that bug fixed! David Coffin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 11:34:08 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA11027; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:34:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:34:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990228112140.0079ac30@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:21:40 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re:lexicon MPX G2 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"9c2le2.0.aD2.EnMss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There's a pretty detailed product description on Lexicon's site. http://www.lexicon.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 14:08:45 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA07704; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:08:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:08:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990228190118.1796.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) From: dan sumner Subject: Re:London/Paris connections To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"HvHDx2.0.AV1.u9Pss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Permagrin, my loop based duo project is looking to find information about clubs in France, England or Germany where instrumental groove ambient music will go over well. Does anybody have any info on this? Does anybody know any booking agents or promoters in that area. Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Dan Sumner > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 14:38:23 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA13359; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:38:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:38:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199902281932.OAA03787@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Great Show Tonight!!At The Knitting Factory! Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:30:50 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"y33L12.0.i23.4ePss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all... just wanted to give a heasds up to NYC area peeps....esp. mr berwell, spin 17 et al tho' it's at the knit - the 'alterknit room' isn't online yet please don't miss -... great show sunday nite at the alterknit - bob musso -guitar, with lance carter - drums (ex cassandra wilson, sonny sharrock) bob is the engineer or producer on tons of stuff on Axiom & Celluloid labels, all the Laswell, material, Panthalassa Miles Davis remix, and other stuff - like Buckethead, 24-7 Spyz, Last Exit, Sonny Sharrock, Praxis, bernie worrell (who is on this new Musso record) etc. Bob is a very unsung guitarist and creative force, the band will be perfoming stuff from his new CD come if ya can - it'll be great. also in the band is charles burnham (benbow??) on violin, who played with james blood ulmer.. great stuff sun 27th - knitting factory alterknit 9pm Bob Musso band maybe see ya Homepage http://www.monmouth.com/~andre Info on my bands JFK's LSD UFO and HIDDEN AGENDA official PROJECT/OBJECT site http://projectobject.com [frank zappa tribute band i play guitar in] ---------- > From: MrBERWELL@aol.com > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Great Show At The Knitting Factory! > Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 3:58 PM > > The Rodman lookalike sax player was Micah Gaugh, who you only ever see sitting > in at other peoples gigs. But he does get around. The keyboardist was Manny, > although I dont think Ive ever seen or heard him before. Jamaaladeen is a > bad-ass!! > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 16:00:41 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA31812; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:00:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:00:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:45:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dark Aether Project X-Sender: info@red To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Feed the Silence Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"PeeMA1.0.9o6.JiQss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Dark Aether Project's second CD "Feed The Silence" has now been shipped off to distributors. Track list is as follows: Burnt Sunrise - 12:40 Nightmare - 8:14 Stages - 6:46 Building the Worm - 4:59 Feed the Silence - 10:22 Live bonus track: Out of the Dark/Dark Aether - 8:52 The Dark Aether Project is: Adam Levin: Warr 8 String Touch Guitar/Keyboards/Loops Yaman Aksu: Guitar/Hammond Organ Brian Griffin: Drums/Percussion Ray Weston: Vocals With special guest Markus Reuter of Europa String Choir: Warr 8 String Touch Guitar on "Building the Worm" What the critics are saying about The Dark Aether Project: "...jazz-inflected, often minimalistic...foreboding soundscapes...classy ...offers mature musicianship without pretentiousness" - Progression "..intense and blistering lead work...amazing loops and shimmering textures that are at once haunting and dreamlike...worthy of attention." - Expose "...delivers what the demanding progressive rock fan wants: a unique and original product, dexterity, a sharp musical flair and the ability to play with the listener's emotions." - Cyclone Magazine (Quebec) The CD release multimedia event for "Feed the Silence" will take place at 9pm on Saturday, March 13th, at Phantasmagoria located at 11319 Elkin St. in Wheaton MD (5 minutes from the Washington DC beltway) The Dark Aether Project will perform with special guests Warr Guitarist Markus Reuter of the Europa String Choir and space-jam improv greats Quarkspace. This show marks former Echolyn vocalist Ray Weston's first performance as a full member of The Dark Aether Project, having joined during the writing of the new album. Accompanying the music will be the spectacular visual work of the Ohio-based Solar Fire Lightshow and their multi-projection liquid light & film systems with multi-colored strobes, black lights, smoke, beams and other amazing visual effects which have made them one of the premier US lightshow outfits and the choice of visiting foreign space rock forefathers like Hawkwind and Gong. Admission is $10 for this all ages show. For sound samples, full concert schedule, venue directions, CD distributor contacts and more info, visit http://www.DarkAether.Net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 16:10:47 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA02089; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:10:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:10:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19990228204912.23842.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.174] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RSS-10 Roland Sound Space Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:49:12 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"wo5ml3.0.Ux6.BmQss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello folks, anyone use this unit for processing loops? If so, where did you find one? Thanks, Dennis ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Feb 28 20:49:26 1999 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA02447; Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:49:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:49:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199902241305_MC2-6BB0-1777@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 17:26:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: RDS mod / Alto's address Resent-Message-ID: <"rqsyq.0.zc7.DqUss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:05 AM -0800 2/24/99, Leander REININGHAUS wrote: > > - Hey Kim, > >please, would you tell me anything necessary for ordering the EDP's >software update ? >Thanx in advance ! The latest available software available for the echoplex has been shipping in every new echoplex for the last year and a half. You don't have to do anything if you are just buying one. If you have an older unit you buy the update from Gibson. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com