From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 03:19:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA20615; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:19:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 03:19:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 00:48:33 -0500 (EST) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: WANTED: MIDI-Visual Basic connection In-Reply-To: <199811302239.PAA19877@mail.iex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"bUt0t.0.af3.7DwOs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't have an answer for you Chuck, but I've also been searching for code to access midi under Windows and Macs (for Linux I've got it). I've got a cross platform app in Tcl/Tk for the Chapman Stick. If you find anything let me know, and I'll do the same for you. Stew Benedict On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Chuck Angert wrote: > Hi to all! > I am looking to write some MIDI stuff in Visual Basic 5.0. > I have searched the help and www - can only find Multi-Media player > control, which does not let me get to the real midi data stream. > > I need a custom control (like the MSComm control) that lets me talk to/from > MIDI devices already registered into the Win95 environment. > (like my MusicQuest 8-port-SE or soundblaster MIDI port.) > Any leads? > Thanks. > PS - any interested V.B. hackers out there want to talk MIDI code? email me! > Chuck Joy - crs@usa.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 10:22:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA29492; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:22:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:22:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Pete Gilbert" To: "Loopers Delight (E-mail)" Subject: Upcoming MST gig in Ann Arbor, MI (minimal loopage) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:38:42 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be1d3c$0b840fc0$bb2afed0@petegilbert> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"fkjeH3.0.nz4.8O0Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The Michigan Stick Trio will be performing at Oz's Music on Packard in Ann Arbor on Sunday December 13, at 3pm. For more information, you can email me or call Oz's at 734 662 8283. We will be performing pieces from our CD, General Chaos and Natural Order as well as some new pieces that we intend to include on our next CD. ===== Pete Gilbert AKA pgilbert@ford.com or PeteGilbert@msn.com Visit the Michigan Stick Trio Web Pages at: http://www.michsticktrio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 12:54:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA08044; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:54:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:54:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:11:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Carter To: list server loopers delight Subject: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"U3dca.0.M_6.hO2Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb any use for this application? I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the (mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but only if I can get one for below #200. Jim Carter UK Tel - 0117 9289934 FAX - 0117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 12:59:54 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA10257; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:59:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:59:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981201185118.006db1e4@net.ganymed.org> X-Sender: lorenz@net.ganymed.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:51:23 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lorenz Haeusle Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"E_1n71.0.7_.bg2Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what about a lexicon alex, sounds not bad for its price used: ~$150 At 17:11 01.12.98 +0000, you wrote: >Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced >reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb >any use for this application? >I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the >(mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to >a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but >only if I can get one for below #200. > >Jim Carter > >UK >Tel - 0117 9289934 >FAX - 0117 9293746 >e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 13:38:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA28599; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:38:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:38:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <7420d4c3.3664333b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:19:39 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Jim.Carter@bristol.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"6e2jo3.0.Yu4.lC3Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/1/98 11:54:12 AM, Jim.Carter@bristol.ac.uk writes: >Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced >reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb >any use for this application? >I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the >(mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to >a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but >only if I can get one for below #200. The MXP100 is an enormous bang-for-the-buck unit, and I thought it was vastly superior to the Nanoverb (which I had also owned) in sound, flexibility, and tweakabilty. I strongly recommend you spend the extra buck or two (pound?) and get the Lexicon. Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 15:41:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA25659; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:41:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:41:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:33:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Resent-Message-ID: <"lQWqz2.0.H05.e65Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced >reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb >any use for this application? >I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the >(mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to >a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but >only if I can get one for below #200. > >Jim Carter > >UK >Tel - 0117 9289934 >FAX - 0117 9293746 >e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk The hands down winner in this price category seems to be the Lexicon MPX100. Lists at $US299 and I have seen it on the net at under $US200. I have 3 Lexicon processors and love them all. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 15:52:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA30227; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:52:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:52:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:11:24 +0100 To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Echoplexproblem X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Sender: 03085961439-0001@t-online.de From: Adolf.Wegener@t-online.de (Adolf wegener) Resent-Message-ID: <"z2cA91.0.Ce5.KC5Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com My echoplex(5.0)is unable to read midi-clock correctly.accepts not all sources. i.e.sync=in,jamman provides clock.nextloop reacts sometimes on jamclock,sometimes on internal clock.Sync=off:no switching at all to nextloop. I.e.3loops,nextloop,multiply-record doesnt wait for the one.-back to loop1 via nextloop:insert light yellow:plays loop once, then goes into muteWhat is that? Carsten Wegener.Berlin. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 17:20:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA05170; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:20:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:20:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 98 15:04:05 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Doug Tapia To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1299598123-3135104@arts.unco.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <"cLy8L2.0.rf6.RQ6Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Subject: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) >Sent: 12/1/98 5:11 PM >Received: 12/1/98 12:31 PM >From: Jim Carter, Jim.Carter@bristol.ac.uk >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >To: list server loopers delight, loopers-delight@annihilist.com > >Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced >reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb >any use for this application? Alesis Nanoverb sounds good for what it is, but. . . >I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the >(mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to >a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but >only if I can get one for below #200. > The Lexicon MPX100 is in a whole other class. The difference in sound is truly remarkable. I A/B'd both units for a friend of mine who was looking at inexpensive reberb boxes. The MPX100 should be available for around $219US. I think that the list price is going up, if it hasn't already from $249US to $299US. I don't know what the exchange rates are these days and such, but you owe it to yourself to at least check it out if you can squeek it through your budget. (No, I don't work for Lexi, I just love their stuff) >Jim Carter > By the way, we have an ex-president by the same name. .-} >UK >Tel - 0117 9289934 >FAX - 0117 9293746 >e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 18:16:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA30423; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:16:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:16:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: <85b3d5c.36647576@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:02:14 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"jUNdd.0.sg5.aM7Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com don't know how much they're going for these days, but I still swear by my Boss SE-50 half-rack multifx, with plenty o' reverb. If that's still too pricey, some of the ART multifx like FXR Elite II's and EFX Network aren't bad, and I picked up one of each for $99 apiece (new in the box) at a music store blowout sale. Good luck. - Bill Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 18:28:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA02921; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:28:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:28:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Tiktok Mobile HQ , "Looper's Delight" Subject: RE: Symetrix 606 Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:04:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"GttiI3.0.KB6.aP7Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I diddled with one for an hour in a store one day. navigating and "getting into it's head" was my problem. Sounds were nice and lush, but the user interface a bit of a bummer as I remember. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tiktok Mobile HQ [SMTP:tiktok@sprintmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 1998 2:27 AM > To: Looper's Delight > Subject: Re:Symetrix 606 > > >Anybody have any knowledge or actually play one of these things? > >I hear they have good 24 bit converters, but difficult to program... > >anybody?........ > > I ordered a manual from Symetrix to check out the feature set, and it was > impressively deep. It looked like a super-Vortex with full MIDI > implementation, sort of like the Korg 8000 delay, but it did look a bit > daunting to program. Haven't seen one in person. > > Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 18:56:39 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA15950; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:56:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:56:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981201233703.00876194@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:37:03 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Loop-a-thon: Middle East Downstairs Mon Dec 7 - 8:00pm to 11:00pm Resent-Message-ID: <"xOP7h2.0.ks2.b_7Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 05:22 PM 12/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >Looping can be described as a process of realtime and interactive sound >layering without samplers. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ why that restriction? Besides, aren't most loopers just another sort of sampler, with a set of functions oriented towards sampling and sample manipulation in real-time? (and of course there's the common designation, "phrase sampler"....) food for thought, maybe. :-) kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research 408-752-9284 http://www.chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 19:02:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA18658; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:02:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:02:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:51:46 -0500 Message-ID: <002101be1d85$8e6b38c0$ebc1ffd0@artmusic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <85b3d5c.36647576@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"hN2er1.0.FP3.M48Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use a Digitech S100, in addition to reverb, it has a compressor, chorus, flange, and a bunch of other stuff. It has the advantage of being split up into 2 separate processors as well- its about $170 US. Very cool! Here is the url: http://www.digitech.com/s100/index.htm Also, I just wanna mention that my CD was reviewed in a Florida music mag... read it here: http://www.eatmag.com/reviews/revl1143.html Cheers! Dave Eichenberger ********************************************************************* 'Future Perfect' - art music guitars-loops-flutes-devices-voices the NEW IMPROVED site: http://home1.gte.net/artmusic/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 19:16:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA25207; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:16:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:16:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199812020006.QAA25953@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: Sound Cards [late reply] To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:06:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Nick Ring" at Nov 14, 98 05:45:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LCxYp1.0.St4.QH8Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I don't remember if anyone brought this up, but there's the PC-DAW list website that one could try for looking up info on soundcards for recording on PCs. To get there go to http://www.missionrec.com/ and click on the PC-DAW icon on the left frame. BTW, DAW = Digital Audio Workstation Paolo Valladolid --------------------------------------------------------------- |Moderator of Digital Guitar Digest, an Internet mailing list |\ |for Music Technology and Stringed Instruments | \ ---------------------------------------------------------------- | \ To subscribe, go to the web page below: \ | \ http://waynesworld.ucsd.edu/DigitalGuitar/subscribe.html \| ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 19:57:34 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA22486; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:01:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:01:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: sayaaahh@aol.com Subject: Loop-a-thon: Middle East Downstairs Mon Dec 7 - 8:00pm to 11:00pm Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:22:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"Vnd1D2.0.-93.m17Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ross Hamlin & Open Faucet Productions Presents: "5 Loopers" Monday, 7th December 1998 The Middle East -- Downstairs Cambridge, MA 8:00pm to 11:00pm The show will feature "sonic architecture" by 5 Boston-based loopers. Looping can be described as a process of realtime and interactive sound layering without samplers. Expect the music to range from some very delicate ambient dynamics to thunderous moods, given the widely different interests and instruments of these players. David Kirkdorffer/UNDO - non-guitar Daniel Orlansky - diggery-doo James Coleman - theremin T.G. Noyes - guitar synth Jonathon LoMaster - guitar & violin 1st Hour - solo spots 2nd Hour - duets, trio's & quartets 3rd Hour - open to whatever makes sense at the time. I hope you come to this very unique ambient event. And naturally, bring your awareness however you will. dk P.S. If you have questions about looping, try: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html, or please reply to this e-mail. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 20:02:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA13796; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:02:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:02:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: dmgraph@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:46:35 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: David Myers Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Resent-Message-ID: <"1imnp.0._R1.8t8Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've owned lots of Alesis and other budget stuff, and many Lexicons. Do yourself a BIG favor and get any kind of Lex--even a used Alex can be had for maybe $120, but the MPX 100 is the $220 killer and will give you lots more than reverb, though reverb IS the the Lexicon competition snuffer.... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 1 20:04:38 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA14899; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:04:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:04:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36649079.8B283F0B@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:57:29 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: mixing a looping rig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"M69iV2.0.1I2.c-8Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I remember that there were some Mackie users on this list and I just got a 1202vlz. What i want to do is run stereo from a gr-30 and stereo from my guitar pedalboard into a Vortex and Jamman in the effects loop but I have never used such a sophisticated mixer! Any help on this would be appreciated. Also suggestions for a suitable power amp and speakers. thanks in advance, jeff duke http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 01:27:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA05921; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:27:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:27:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: aden@pop.ne.mediaone.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36649079.8B283F0B@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:16:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Aden Evens Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig Resent-Message-ID: <"IMpIh2.0.sf.biDPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff, Use two stereo channel strips for your two stereo sources. As for the Jamman and Vortex, here are some closely related questions you need to answer to decide the best setup: 1) Do you want to go the Vortex and Jamman in series (one after the other) or in parallel (both get the same stereo signal at the same time)? Series is easier to do, parallel is harder. 2) Is it OK if your signal always passes through these effects, or do you want also to be able to route your signal directly to tape or PA without passing it through the V & J? 3) Do you need the signal(s) from the V & J to go back into the mixer (maybe (1) because they are in parallel or (2) because you sometimes want to be able to bypass them completely or perhaps because you want to eq them or route them somewhere besides main outs). 4) Would it be acceptable if the inputs to the V & J were mono? (Remember, the loop within the Jamman is mono anyway, although it does pass through stereo signals. On the other hand, the Vortex has certain effects that are designed to work with stereo or even with two mono signals.) Solutions: You should answer those questions as best you can, and then I (or someone else) will give you a specific setup recommendation. However, here are some preliminary ideas: (A) Go to the V & J in parallel and mono from AUX SEND 1 & 2 and return from them either into AUX RETURNs 1 & 2 or give them their own stereo or mono channel strips. (B) Go to the V & J in series and stereo from ALT 3/4 or from MAIN OUTS or from CTRL OUT. Then go straight from the V (or J, whichever is last in the series) into your tape recorder or computer or amplifier or butthole. (C) Some combination of (A) and (B). (D) All of the above, plus a patchbay. Merits and demerits of (A): The primary disadvantage of setup (A) is that you are only sending a mono signal to the V & J. This doesn't make much difference in the case of the Jamman, since you can always hear your 'dry' signal in stereo without having to pass it through the J, simply by turning up your channel faders (actually, they are channel knobs, but whose counting?). The second disadvantage of setup (A) is that whichever unit is on AUX SEND 2 is always getting a post-fader level. This means, for example, that you can't turn the dry signal for a channel all the way down and still send some of that signal to the unit. This is probably not at all what you want for the Vortex, since you will often want to hear only the weird Vortex sound with no dry signal. However, it may not be so bad in the case of the Jamman, since you will usually want to hear what you are looping while you play it. You could turn the Jamman MIX knob to full output (no input signal), and then it would not 'double' your signal while you play it. There are other workarounds for this problem, such as MUTE-ing a channel with the MUTE button while keeping the fader (knob) turned up, but if you have something else getting signal from ALT 3/4, then MUTE will send that channel there. Further disadvantages include high possibilities of feedback if you twist the wrong knob, extensive time spent 'debugging' when something isn't working how you expect it to, and, if you give them each a channel strip, you have used up a lot of channels already. The big advantage of (A) is that you have more control over your signal flow, especially if you give each unit its own channel strip, instead of returning through AUX RETURNs. So, you can send signal first to the V and then from the V to the J while also adding other signal to the J, then send the loop from the J to the amp. Or you can create a loop on the J, then send it to the V and then to the MAIN or STUDIO outs. Also, you can use the V & J completely independently of each other. Merits and demerits of (B): The primary disadvantage of (B) is the total lack of flexibility. You are either going from the V to the J or from the J to the V, and you have to decide in advance. Moreover, you don't get to alter the wet/dry mix from your board; either a given channel goes to the J&V or it doesn't. You have different kinds of flexibility depending on which outputs you send to the V&J: (I) ALT 3/4, flexibility to choose which channels go and how much of each channel, but any channel going to the J&V doesn't go to the MAIN OUTs. (II) CTRL RM outs, the only way to send a special mix to the CTRL RM outs is using the solo buttons, which has the advantage of not affecting the MAIN MIX and ALT 3/4 but the (big) disadvantage of not allowing you to set relative levels. Otherwise you are better off using the MAIN OUTs. (III) MAIN OUTs work well for scenario (B), since you want to send your whole signal through the equipment, however, if for some reason you don't want to do this, your 1/4" main outs are no longer available (although you could still use the XLRs). Another disadvantage of (B) is that the cheap electronics in the V&J go a long way to degrading signals, especially quiet signals or delicate signals, or timbrally complex signals. Considering that you are getting your signals from a GR-30 and a pedal board, this may not make too much difference, but your ears will hurt at the end of the night if you listen to everything through the V&J (even if you choose bypass on the V and go straight through the J). If you record what you do, and you want anything dry, I would make sure not to pass it through the V&J. The big advantage of (B) is that it is easy and quick and simple. Merits and demerits of (C): You might use the setup as in (B), going to the V&J from the ALT 3/4 outs, but then go back from the V&J into a channel strip. Then you can send your GR-30 and pedal board to the V&J series, bring the signal back to the board where you can eq or even send it to effects on AUX SENDs, and then go from MAIN OUTs to wherever you want. This is still pretty simple, but lets you tweak the signal a bit more. (You can get rid of a lot of that hiss by turning down the high eq.) More complicated but more flexible, would be to put one unit on an AUX SEND and one on the ALT 3/4. You can try to figure out what this will accomplish, but I am sure it has some advantage over other setups. Finally, what about (D): The great advantage of (D) is that it will allow you to quickly use any of the above setups without having to get out of your seat and climb behind the rickety table your mixer is sitting on to move wires around. Patchbays are relatively cheap, not usually very noisy, and, once you get your head around them, easy to use. You should have a patchbay. The disadvantage of (D) is that you have to get way more cables, design a labeling system, and think hard about every change you make. Plus, you are likely to become obsessive about making sure that every input and output is hooked into your patchbay. Wow, I didn't mean to write a dissertation. I hope this helps. You are welcome. Aden >I remember that there were some Mackie users on >this list and I just got a 1202vlz. What i want to >do is run stereo from a gr-30 and stereo from my >guitar pedalboard into a Vortex and Jamman in the >effects loop but I have never used such a >sophisticated mixer! Any help on this would be >appreciated. Also suggestions for a suitable power >amp and speakers. > >thanks in advance, > >jeff duke > >http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 01:33:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA07252; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:31:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:31:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812020629.BAA04769@ulster.net> Subject: OT: B.L.U.E. in Woodstock Date: Wed, 2 Dec 98 01:21:29 -0500 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: evening To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"Vwg_q3.0.n31.tnDPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw BLUE in woodstock tonight. a good show sure to get better by the end of the tour - this being the 1st gig and all. I haven't seen Torn or Bruford in at least 13 years so it was really great to check them out in an intimate (if smokey) setting. Rather than being dazzled by technical/gizmo wizardry, I found myself most impressed by things like Chris Botti's tone (which was wonderful), Bruford's relaxed, almost tai-chi like touch & the joy with which Torn & Levin approach their playing. not to mention DT's "stompbox ballet" I got the feeling I could've seen them playing in a sandbox and been entertained. The sets were short (~30 min each), and they rocked more for the second set than the first. There was plenty of loopin' happening on Torn's end & lots of polyrhythmic madness on both Bruford's & Levin's parts. If they come to your town check 'em out... jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 01:54:36 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA14449; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:54:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:54:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001801be183f$465a93a0$5660490c@default> From: "Clark Battle" To: Subject: For Sale: EDP 4Mg w/ pedal $500 obo, Vortex $200 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:45:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-Type: text/plain; boundary="----------------------------"; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"iyTzD1.0.oZ2.Y4EPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For sale: EDP 4MG & pedal. Almost new, never left my apartment. Version 5.0. Original box and manuals. $500US obo. Lexicon Vortex. Perfect condition. $200 obo. Will ship COD within US or Canada. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 02:17:37 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA21170; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:17:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:17:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:20:31 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Echoplexproblem Resent-Message-ID: <"7_RHi3.0.2-3.PMEPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com not really enough description to figure out your problem easily, but I'll try.... At 12:11 PM -0800 12/1/98, Adolf wegener wrote: >My echoplex(5.0)is unable to read midi-clock correctly.accepts not all >sources. >i.e.sync=in,jamman provides clock.nextloop reacts sometimes on > jamclock,sometimes on internal clock. make sure you have SwitchQuant set to "cyc" (for cycle). That will quantize the loop switching to the points determined by midi clock. If SwitchQuant is off, NextLoop is free of any sync and goes immediately. >Sync=off:no switching at all to nextloop. I think this could happen if you didn't reset the loop before turning sync=off. Or it could be you have switchquant=CNF, or something else entirely, hard to say without more detail. >I.e.3loops,nextloop,multiply-record doesnt wait for the one.-back to loop1 via >nextloop:insert light yellow:plays loop once, then goes into muteWhat is that? This sounds like you have the SamplerStyle parameter set to "one", when you probably want it set to "run". You would only set SamplerStyle to something other than "run" if you were triggering the loops with midi, like a sampler. If you are just using NextLoop, leave it on the default of "run". Anyway, since it sounds like you have some parameters set in strange ways, you might want to reset the parameters to default and start clean. (do that by holding parameter button in while powering up, until the start screen is done.) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 09:07:01 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA08201; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:07:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:07:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:33:52 -0500 (EST) From: Todd Pafford X-Sender: todd@galen.dyn.ml.org Reply-To: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT: B.L.U.E. in Woodstock In-Reply-To: <199812020629.BAA04769@ulster.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"fjrsu1.0.gp6.P6KPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, evening wrote: > I saw BLUE in woodstock tonight. a good show sure to get better by the > end of the tour - this being the 1st gig and all. > jmw I'd love to catch these guys live, the album blows my mind. Anyone know where I can find tour info, schedules, etc? Thanks. :) --- "If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite." -- William Blake Todd Pafford galen@erols.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 13:11:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05419; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:11:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:11:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981202174033.7932.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.161] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 09:40:33 PST Resent-Message-ID: <"a9cfv3.0.aY6.xjNPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Great job with the previous reply, my setup falls somewhere close to A except that I use a the plain ole 1202. I give the J & V their Aux sends with the J going back to a stereo strip. That way J can access V. What I like about this is that I can turn J totally wet so the only the loop gets V'd, not what I play over it. This solves the mono question for me concerning J, at least until I get another one. As mentioned above, the (-) is that mixed V signal issue concerning how V is fed. If I don't feel like messing with anything and I just want to plug'n play, the above works for me. While I have the floor, I would like to know if anyone uses the Digitech 21xx (either of them) with a Jamman or EDP or any other mono looper? If there are, do you use the effects loop. I hear that one of these babies allow you to place that loop in differant areas of the signal path. That sound interesting, I'd like to hear how that works out and which unit allows that flexibility. I am considering one for purchase. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 13:24:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA10213; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:24:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:24:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981202173352.4421.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.161] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 09:33:52 PST Resent-Message-ID: <"aWfNV1.0.Qr5.qdNPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Great job with the previous reply, my setup falls somewhere close to A except that I use a the plain ole 1202. I give the J & V their Aux sends with the J going back to a stereo strip. That way J can access V. What I like about this is that I can turn J totally wet so the only the loop gets V'd, not what I play over it. This solves the mono question for me concerning J, at least until I get another one. As mentioned above, the (-) is that mixed V signal issue concerning how V is fed. If I don't feel like messing with anything and I just want to plug'n play, the above works for me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 13:45:34 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA19423; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:45:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:45:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:11:59 -0500 (EST) From: murkie X-Sender: mchriste@tiger.middlebury.edu To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: OT: B.L.U.E. in Woodstock In-Reply-To: <199812020629.BAA04769@ulster.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Ji4YV2.0.Xh1.tEOPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, evening wrote: > I saw BLUE in woodstock tonight. a good show sure to get better by the > end of the tour - this being the 1st gig and all. the fact that this gig was in a super small club didn't hurt either. it was great fun to watch the interplay between these guys. there were some moments of real brilliance. every now and then one of them would hit THE note and the room would dissapear. highly recomended! the tour schedule is at papabear.com. m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 13:54:41 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA23068; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:54:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:54:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <18c5ef4e.36658523@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:21:23 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: low-budget reverb rec(spot the loop content) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 171 Resent-Message-ID: <"HDMqh1.0.fD2.OKOPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 01/12/98 17:54:12 GMT, you write: << Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb any use for this application? I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the (mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but only if I can get one for below #200. >> MPX100 , very worth it, uses same sounds as a costly MPX1. ............and a 2.5s looper(allows you to play without adding to the loop). Alesis, may be a bit 'trebly/digital' sounding, but probably OK live. Lex Alex, v.good.........1.5s loop which fades. Zoom 1202 , has a couple of acceptably smooth settings and likely to be very cheap if you can find one. Zoom 1201 , hundreds of cheap tacky reverbs and a 3s loop if you know how. Andy Butler. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 14:33:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA06241; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:33:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:33:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:34:04 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: low-budget reverb rec(spot the loop content) Resent-Message-ID: <"LQj4m.0.PO3.JVOPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ><< Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced > reverb unit suitable for live mix? Is the Alesis Nanoverb > any use for this application? > I just need something cheap and cheerful to brighten up the > (mainly vocal) mix off a 16 channel deck. I might be tempted to > a Lexicon MPX100 (for subsequent use with loopy guitar) but > only if I can get one for below #200. >> > >MPX100 , very worth it, uses same sounds as a costly MPX1. >............and a 2.5s looper(allows you to play without adding to the loop). > I have a MPX100, and it's got some terrific reverbs. I'm just finishing a CD for a local pop band, and while I'd normally rent a PCM-80 or -90 for the final mixes, on this project, because of cost, I just used the MPX. Sounded great. Every preset on the box sounds good, unlike Alesis or Zoom or other similarly-priced boxes that may have 1-2 great sounds and the rest crap. I think I paid $229 for mine, which is slightly above your price range, but it's really worth it. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 14:54:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA14768; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:54:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:54:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:28:03 -0800 Message-ID: <0015D103.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: mixing a looping rig To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, "ur eye" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"3smHQ1.0.7V3.8WOPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wow... that was quite a reply Jeff! I too use the VLZ with JamMan and Vortex and have sort of settled on this for the meanwhile... ---------------- Aux 2 sends to the JM mono and JM mono returns to channel 8 on the 1202VLZ Alt 3/4 sends stereo to the Vortex inputs and Vortex stereo returns to channel 7 on the 1202VLZ My main stereo guitar signal is input on channel 5 of the VLZ. Drumbox stereo is on channel 6... (Kick and snare sometimes come back on ch1+2 for separate processing.) ---------------- This allows me to send either/both main guitar-Jammer-drumbox to the Vortex. I can also send the Vortex via aux2 to the Jammer if need be... I tend to use Aux 1 as a pre-fader send to either my Waldorf 4-pole filter or a Boss DD-5 Delay pedal depending on mood. Best Regards, Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 14:57:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA16037; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:57:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:57:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36658FEF.7DE9AFF@interaccess.com> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:07:28 -0600 From: Ben Vance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig References: <19981202174033.7932.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HMsyP.0.UR6.1xOPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ur eye wrote: > While I have the floor, I would like to know if anyone uses the Digitech > 21xx (either of them) with a Jamman or EDP or any other mono looper? If > there are, do you use the effects loop. I hear that one of these babies > allow you to place that loop in differant areas of the signal path. That > sound interesting, I'd like to hear how that works out and which unit > allows that flexibility. I am considering one for purchase. I use the mono effects loop of my gx-700 for my echoplex. This way you can record a loop with effects, switch it to the begining of the signal chain, and add effects to the already effected loop. Its very fun with a drum machine. ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 15:56:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA07922; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:56:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:56:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981202202511.22644.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:25:11 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Jones Subject: A/B switch recommend? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"9dK_K1.0.VP6.T4QPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Wanted to get a silent A/B switch for in/out of the loop. Can't have a sound diminution or any pops! Thinking of Whirlwind, but would like to hear some suggestions. Thanks. Randy Jones _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 16:44:48 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA27258; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:44:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:44:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3665AF64.C06ABDD1@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 16:21:40 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"xaR9x3.0.Z64.KwQPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thank you all for the great tips. Of couse before this list I was a happy little guitar and time machine, amp sorta guy. and now you all have unleashed a gear monster on me ( and I like it). The Vortex really iced the cake though, once I got it I had to be in stereo. Well back to the lab and thanks again! I have a lot of experimenting to do with these great ideas. jeff duke http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html Aden Evens wrote: > Jeff, > > Use two stereo channel strips for your two stereo sources. As for the > Jamman and Vortex, here are some closely related questions you need to > answer to decide the best setup: > > Aden > > >I remember that there were some Mackie users on > >this list and I just got a 1202vlz. What i want to > >do is run stereo from a gr-30 and stereo from my > >guitar pedalboard into a Vortex and Jamman in the > >effects loop but I have never used such a > >sophisticated mixer! Any help on this would be > >appreciated. Also suggestions for a suitable power > >amp and speakers. > > > >thanks in advance, > > > >jeff duke > > > >http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 16:40:36 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA25536; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:40:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:40:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Dpcoffin@aol.com Message-ID: <9cf3c78a.3665aa0d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:58:53 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, jmar@bellsouth.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 85 Resent-Message-ID: <"4LZVD1.0.kK2.YfQPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com There's a schematic diagram of my looper/mixer set-up at vg-8.com under Users, David Coffin. I use a 1604vlz, so it's more complex, but perhaps there'll be something useful for you there... dpc From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 21:24:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA11205; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:24:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:24:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002a01be1e38$e7ae1520$d48232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Delaying MUTE action? Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 21:15:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"On1UP.0.3X1.6DVPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I had my EDP set up so that when I hit MUTE, the loop would continue playing until the end of the current cycle and then mute - and hitting UNDO, started the loop from the start - immediately. Last night I was playing with some EDP settings and now I can't get back to the above. Not only that, but the manual says that MUTE always acts immediately??? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Gerry P manda@norlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 2 22:39:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA07700; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:39:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:39:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Collins" To: Subject: Four Violins (non-loop oriented) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 22:15:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01be1e6b$24c86780$281cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZuPsM1.0.Go7.l9WPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To all who are into droning music. One of the fathers...Tony Conrad, has got his piece "Four Violins" on FRICTION, from WREK in Atlanta. Here it is... http://cyberbuzz.gatech.edu/wrek/stream/schedule.shtml I remembered a certain loopist who mentioned this piece and figured that a few of yourselves might enjoy it. BTW, there is also some Conlon Nancarrow...and his piano rolls on there also. Highly Recommended. Jeff Collins From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 01:07:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA04430; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 00:05:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 00:05:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981203045204.00daa27c@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 20:52:04 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Delaying MUTE action? Resent-Message-ID: <"eXlnC2.0.Jv7.xXXPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com turn quantize parameter on, MuteMode=continuous. kim At 09:15 PM 12/2/98 -0000, you wrote: >I had my EDP set up so that when I hit MUTE, the loop would continue playing >until the end of the current cycle and then mute - and hitting UNDO, started >the loop from the start - immediately. > >Last night I was playing with some EDP settings and now I can't get back to >the above. Not only that, but the manual says that MUTE always acts >immediately??? > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Gerry P >manda@norlink.net > > > > ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 02:54:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA31152; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:54:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:54:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981203074014.8732.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:40:14 -0800 (PST) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"mKTxR2.0.Yy5.ZzZPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I own a 2101 & a 2112. The FX loop on the 2101 is located between the analog & digital sections. It is mono send/stereo return. On both the 2112 & 2120, the FX loop is located in the analog section before the dual distortions. It is mono send & return. In none of the above is the FX loop movable. You can view the manuals for the 2101 & 2120 at Digitech's web site. http://www.digitech.com John ---ur eye wrote: > > While I have the floor, I would like to know if anyone uses the Digitech > 21xx (either of them) with a Jamman or EDP or any other mono looper? If > there are, do you use the effects loop. I hear that one of these babies > allow you to place that loop in differant areas of the signal path. That > sound interesting, I'd like to hear how that works out and which unit > allows that flexibility. I am considering one for purchase. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > == John Tidwell _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 05:33:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA27236; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 05:33:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 05:33:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:56:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Jim Carter To: list server loopers delight Subject: thanks re budget reverb Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"gQT8y3.0.sE3.02cPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To everyone who recommended the Lexicon MPX100 - Thank you. Picked one up yesterday for #199 - >twice the price of the nanoverb but yes it is so like natural room acoustics that it took me a moment to realise that it was actually on. Impressed - thanks again. Jim Carter ps can someone talk me into buying a Waldorf 4pole? I really fancy playing about with one of these but just can't justify the expense. Tel - 0117 9289934 FAX - 0117 9293746 e-mail jim.carter@bris.ac.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 10:17:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA29571; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:17:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:17:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <028c01be1ec5$c8e82440$f598adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Wedge: WAS: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:56:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"F4V9f1.0.852.RbfPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Any of you august personages have any experience with the Alesis Wedge compared to the MPX 100--I'm still looking for the $100 blowout-priced Wedge and am getting closer, but that MPX 100 is sounding better . . . drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tom -----Original Message----- From: David Myers To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 7:07 PM Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) >I've owned lots of Alesis and other budget stuff, and many Lexicons. Do >yourself a BIG favor and get any kind of Lex--even a used Alex can be had >for maybe $120, but the MPX 100 is the $220 killer and will give you lots >more than reverb, though reverb IS the the Lexicon competition snuffer.... > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 12:03:23 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA13689; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:03:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:03:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812031635.IAA30132@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Kahler Human Clock manual? Date: Thu, 3 Dec 98 10:37:31 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"RVfzS3.0.oD2.AxhPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Anyone have a manual for one of these dinosaurs? Allows you to sync MIDI to incoming audio pulses. Respond via private e-mail, please. Thanks, Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 12:50:41 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA22053; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:50:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:50:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199812031732.KAA29307@tracoman.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tracoman.com: Host usr23-dialup40.mix2.Atlanta.cw.net [166.55.56.168] claimed to be david From: "david" To: Subject: Re: next remix review to appear in American Gear catalog Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:29:13 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"LUdN_.0.ad4.fhiPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ---------- > > >The NEXT! Wave Has Arrived. > > > >Ahh... analog. For most DJ's and producer-types, the very word itself > conjures up those big, deep bass tones and sharp-as-a-razor filter sweeps > that only vintage analog gear can really deliver. But until now, scoring > that classic piece of retro analog gear-a TB-303 Bassline, a Moog synth, a > Vocoder, or any number of pawn-shop prizes-meant scouring the swap meets or > paying big, big bucks on the vintage synth market. But thanks to a new > company called NEXT!, all that's about to change... > > > >When American Gear invited me to review four products from the new NEXT! > lineup of analog music and DJ processing gear, I jumped at the chance. What > arrived on my doorstep days later was the real deal: the SUPERBASS 4.4 and > SPACEBASS 3.3 Analog Bass Synthesizers, the REZ-30 Resonator, and the VOX-II > Vocoder. Each unit was a compact 1U rack-mount size and sported a bunch of > front panel knobs with cool retro synth names like "VCO," "VCF," and "LFO." > Anxious to drop these beauties into a house remix I was working on, I > plugged 'em right in. > > > >First up was the SPACEBASS 3.3 Analog Bass Synthesizer. This unassuming > little unit was simple to set up. I connected my keyboard to the MIDI In > jack on the 3.3's back panel and then connected an instrument cable to the > 3.3's audio output (the big one labeled "OUT"-duh). The front panel was > similarly sparse: just eight knobs for VCO Tune and Wave; VCF Cutoff, > Resonance, and EnvMod; VCA/VCF Accent; Envelope Decay and Master Volume. If > you don't know what all these abbreviations stand for, don't worry. These > terms come from the glory days of analog synths, standing for things like > "Voltage Controlled Oscillator," and "Voltage Controlled Filter." And trust > me, you've definitely heard the sound of these knobs being twirled on > classic techno and electro-funk tracks from Detroit to Germany-making it > easy to just plug in and start tweakin'. > > > >The devilish analog growl of the SPACEBASS 3.3 had me floored within > seconds of hitting that first key. Squealing techno lines of the "acid" > variety and ultra-deep dub-style bass from those hip-hop records your mother > warned you about are easy stuff here. This bass synth is, in short, a > modern-day emulation of the classic R..... TB-303 Bassline, right down to > the built-in Accent functions, which activate when you play your keyboard > above a certain velocity. In my opinion, this affordable little box has got > that 'must-have' 303 sound nailed-truly sick bass sounds, teeth-grinding > filter sweeps and all. And it's a heck of a easier to use and more reliable > than the original. > > > >Having dropped a few choice filter sweeps and a gnarled buzzsaw hit or two > into my track, I decided to explore the SPACEBASS 3.3's big brother, the > SUPERBASS 4.4. The family resemblance was strong between these two bass > brethren, with this big guy boasting just a few more knobs and features and > expanded MIDI capability. Namely, the SUPERBASS gives you a cool Autoslide > control for "sliding" between notes (also called portamento), a Wave switch > for selecting between Saw and Square waves (the 3.3 has a continuously > adjustable knob instead), an Envelope PWM control for thickening up the > Square wave, and a built in Distortion knob for adding, well, you know. My > favorite addition on the 4.4 however, was the Sub Oscillator, which added > some phat bass frequencies so low that I'm sure only dogs could've heard > them. The Sub Oscillator can be blended with the Square and Saw waves for > some truly luscious and full bass sounds, which I quickly used to replace > the now-wimpy bass sound in my remix. For those who spend any time in the > world of MIDI sequencing, you'll be glad to know that SUPERBASS 4.4 also > offers MIDI In, Out and Thru jacks. > > > >I next plugged in to the REZ-30 Resonator to see what I could do to really > tweak my almost-full house track. Thankfully, the REZ-30 opened up lots of > possibilities. This unit offers some very sharp sound filtering and > phasing/flanging type effects based on a classic analog synth circuit with > three parallel filters. To make things interesting, it also includes a > three-mode LFO Modulation section with adjustable rate and depth and an > Envelope Modulation section with depth and decay controls-controls which > react to input frequencies to make things downright scary. I decided to run > my drum loops and keyboard tracks through the REZ-30, and the resulting > filter sweeps and tweaks were among the sharpest and most powerful I've ever > heard. I filtered away at two of my loops to give them a unique "pulsing" > feel, then I went back and used the REZ-30 to flange out the synth sounds > and give them an ambient touch. Best of all, this whole process was really > simple, and I could easily see bringing the REZ-30 into my DJ rig to tweak a > mix, flange a breakbeat, phase out a vocal, and more. The possibilities here > are really endless. > > > >The final piece of NEXT! gear in my rack was the big, bad VOX-II Vocoder. > For those of you who haven't played with a vocoder-a good analog vocoder-the > VOX-II is a real eye- and ear-opener. Basically, a vocoder takes a sound > with lots of sustain-a long synth sound, for example-and controls its attack > with a separate distinct sound-usually the human voice or something with > lots of rhythmic variation like a drum loop. The effect produced by > combining these sounds is truly unique, as heard in the synth-like robot > voices of some of funk and disco's biggest hits. Possible uses include robot > voices, talking basslines, singing synth leads, synth sounds that "pulse" > like drum loops, and more. Not to be overlooked in the VOX-II is its awesome > 11-band Filter Bank section, which I used to dial in to the exact vocoder > frequencies I wanted to hear, as well as to create some general madness with > my loop. I spent hours just playing with the VOX-II, seeing how far I could > merge my voice into synthland. I eventually decided to run the vocals from > my remix through the VOX-II and create a very funky chorus vocal. > > > >Without exception, the new analog NEXT! gear was a joy to use. Simple, > straightforward operation, ultra-phat analog sounds, sturdy construction, > and DJ-friendly pricing was clearly the goal here. Thankfully, NEXT! gear > delivers on all counts. Let's hope my remix does the same in the clubs next > weekend... > > > > > > > >JK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 17:16:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA29774; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:16:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:16:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3666F63D.276723C6@musician.org> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:36:16 -0700 From: eric potter Reply-To: eric@musician.org Organization: Hog Wild Music and Sound FX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Can't find B.L.U.E. tour schedule Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"wJjZ93.0.5o5.1EmPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey! I looked around papabear.com, but could only find dates for last Spring. Anybody know where I can find out about California shows? Please respond by e-mail also if possible, thanks. eric p From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 17:23:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA30542; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:23:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:23:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3666F8F9.2458472A@musician.org> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:47:56 -0700 From: eric potter Reply-To: eric@musician.org Organization: Hog Wild Music and Sound FX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: A/B switch recommend? References: <19981202202511.22644.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lJ9Iq3.0.lB6.zOmPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've heard pops from the Whirlwind and Morley A/B's. I don't know if they had resistors installed to quieten the pops - this is a technique I've heard about, but not tried installing myself. Sometimes that is not enough, though. Sorry I cannot recommend anything, perhaps someone else... eric p Randy Jones wrote: > Hi, > Wanted to get a silent A/B switch for in/out of the loop. Can't have a > sound diminution or any pops! Thinking of Whirlwind, but would like to > hear some suggestions. Thanks. > > Randy Jones > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 18:15:00 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA12088; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:15:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:15:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199812032245.PAA13964@tracoman.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tracoman.com: Host usr14-dialup17.Atlanta.cw.net [206.24.160.81] claimed to be david From: "david" To: Subject: Re: next remix review to appear in American Gear catalog Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:42:15 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DqPYN.0._j.cJnPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com See more info @ www.tracoman.com or contact tracoman 954-929-8999 for a demo CD ---------- > > ---------- > > > > >The NEXT! Wave Has Arrived. > > > > > >Ahh... analog. For most DJ's and producer-types, the very word itself > > conjures up those big, deep bass tones and sharp-as-a-razor filter sweeps > > that only vintage analog gear can really deliver. But until now, scoring > > that classic piece of retro analog gear-a TB-303 Bassline, a Moog synth, > a > > Vocoder, or any number of pawn-shop prizes-meant scouring the swap meets > or > > paying big, big bucks on the vintage synth market. But thanks to a new > > company called NEXT!, all that's about to change... > > > > > >When American Gear invited me to review four products from the new NEXT! > > lineup of analog music and DJ processing gear, I jumped at the chance. > What > > arrived on my doorstep days later was the real deal: the SUPERBASS 4.4 > and > > SPACEBASS 3.3 Analog Bass Synthesizers, the REZ-30 Resonator, and the > VOX-II > > Vocoder. Each unit was a compact 1U rack-mount size and sported a bunch > of > > front panel knobs with cool retro synth names like "VCO," "VCF," and > "LFO." > > Anxious to drop these beauties into a house remix I was working on, I > > plugged 'em right in. > > > > > >First up was the SPACEBASS 3.3 Analog Bass Synthesizer. This unassuming > > little unit was simple to set up. I connected my keyboard to the MIDI In > > jack on the 3.3's back panel and then connected an instrument cable to > the > > 3.3's audio output (the big one labeled "OUT"-duh). The front panel was > > similarly sparse: just eight knobs for VCO Tune and Wave; VCF Cutoff, > > Resonance, and EnvMod; VCA/VCF Accent; Envelope Decay and Master Volume. > If > > you don't know what all these abbreviations stand for, don't worry. These > > terms come from the glory days of analog synths, standing for things like > > "Voltage Controlled Oscillator," and "Voltage Controlled Filter." And > trust > > me, you've definitely heard the sound of these knobs being twirled on > > classic techno and electro-funk tracks from Detroit to Germany-making it > > easy to just plug in and start tweakin'. > > > > > >The devilish analog growl of the SPACEBASS 3.3 had me floored within > > seconds of hitting that first key. Squealing techno lines of the "acid" > > variety and ultra-deep dub-style bass from those hip-hop records your > mother > > warned you about are easy stuff here. This bass synth is, in short, a > > modern-day emulation of the classic R..... TB-303 Bassline, right down to > > the built-in Accent functions, which activate when you play your keyboard > > above a certain velocity. In my opinion, this affordable little box has > got > > that 'must-have' 303 sound nailed-truly sick bass sounds, teeth-grinding > > filter sweeps and all. And it's a heck of a easier to use and more > reliable > > than the original. > > > > > >Having dropped a few choice filter sweeps and a gnarled buzzsaw hit or > two > > into my track, I decided to explore the SPACEBASS 3.3's big brother, the > > SUPERBASS 4.4. The family resemblance was strong between these two bass > > brethren, with this big guy boasting just a few more knobs and features > and > > expanded MIDI capability. Namely, the SUPERBASS gives you a cool > Autoslide > > control for "sliding" between notes (also called portamento), a Wave > switch > > for selecting between Saw and Square waves (the 3.3 has a continuously > > adjustable knob instead), an Envelope PWM control for thickening up the > > Square wave, and a built in Distortion knob for adding, well, you know. > My > > favorite addition on the 4.4 however, was the Sub Oscillator, which added > > some phat bass frequencies so low that I'm sure only dogs could've heard > > them. The Sub Oscillator can be blended with the Square and Saw waves for > > some truly luscious and full bass sounds, which I quickly used to replace > > the now-wimpy bass sound in my remix. For those who spend any time in the > > world of MIDI sequencing, you'll be glad to know that SUPERBASS 4.4 also > > offers MIDI In, Out and Thru jacks. > > > > > >I next plugged in to the REZ-30 Resonator to see what I could do to > really > > tweak my almost-full house track. Thankfully, the REZ-30 opened up lots > of > > possibilities. This unit offers some very sharp sound filtering and > > phasing/flanging type effects based on a classic analog synth circuit > with > > three parallel filters. To make things interesting, it also includes a > > three-mode LFO Modulation section with adjustable rate and depth and an > > Envelope Modulation section with depth and decay controls-controls which > > react to input frequencies to make things downright scary. I decided to > run > > my drum loops and keyboard tracks through the REZ-30, and the resulting > > filter sweeps and tweaks were among the sharpest and most powerful I've > ever > > heard. I filtered away at two of my loops to give them a unique "pulsing" > > feel, then I went back and used the REZ-30 to flange out the synth sounds > > and give them an ambient touch. Best of all, this whole process was > really > > simple, and I could easily see bringing the REZ-30 into my DJ rig to > tweak a > > mix, flange a breakbeat, phase out a vocal, and more. The possibilities > here > > are really endless. > > > > > >The final piece of NEXT! gear in my rack was the big, bad VOX-II > Vocoder. > > For those of you who haven't played with a vocoder-a good analog > vocoder-the > > VOX-II is a real eye- and ear-opener. Basically, a vocoder takes a sound > > with lots of sustain-a long synth sound, for example-and controls its > attack > > with a separate distinct sound-usually the human voice or something with > > lots of rhythmic variation like a drum loop. The effect produced by > > combining these sounds is truly unique, as heard in the synth-like robot > > voices of some of funk and disco's biggest hits. Possible uses include > robot > > voices, talking basslines, singing synth leads, synth sounds that "pulse" > > like drum loops, and more. Not to be overlooked in the VOX-II is its > awesome > > 11-band Filter Bank section, which I used to dial in to the exact vocoder > > frequencies I wanted to hear, as well as to create some general madness > with > > my loop. I spent hours just playing with the VOX-II, seeing how far I > could > > merge my voice into synthland. I eventually decided to run the vocals > from > > my remix through the VOX-II and create a very funky chorus vocal. > > > > > >Without exception, the new analog NEXT! gear was a joy to use. Simple, > > straightforward operation, ultra-phat analog sounds, sturdy construction, > > and DJ-friendly pricing was clearly the goal here. Thankfully, NEXT! gear > > delivers on all counts. Let's hope my remix does the same in the clubs > next > > weekend... > > > > > > > > > > > >JK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 19:55:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA03075; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:55:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:55:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <05aa01be1f1c$2932e820$f598adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: Loop-a-thon: Middle East Downstairs Mon Dec 7 - 8:00pm to 11:00pm Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:21:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"J79b.0.bI7.YfoPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com David K.: think there might be a tape for us unforunate Midwesterners? PLEEEEZZZZ . . . David O. I believe used ot be on the didg mailing list--tell him his mates are "pulling" for him (the gig is being discussed on that list as well) loops and drones--two of my favorite tones drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tom -----Original Message----- From: David Kirkdorffer To: sayaaahh@aol.com Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 5:06 PM Subject: Loop-a-thon: Middle East Downstairs Mon Dec 7 - 8:00pm to 11:00pm >Ross Hamlin & Open Faucet Productions Presents: > >"5 Loopers" > Monday, 7th December 1998 > The Middle East -- Downstairs > Cambridge, MA > 8:00pm to 11:00pm > >The show will feature "sonic architecture" by 5 Boston-based loopers SNIP > > David Kirkdorffer/UNDO - non-guitar > Daniel Orlansky - diggery-doo > James Coleman - theremin > T.G. Noyes - guitar synth > Jonathon LoMaster - guitar & violin > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 20:30:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA08405; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:30:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:30:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36673638.47BCF2B0@tstar.net> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:09:20 -0600 From: Matthew Turner Organization: Anathema Enterprises X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Kaffe Matthews & Adam Wiltzie@33 degrees austin texas X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6l40l3.0.gu.zFpPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com After the show I spoke with two guys who are on this list (I've forgotten both of your names somehow). I was the tenor saxaphonist/guitarist who was rambling on about the echoplex. Anyway, if you guys are out there send me some e-mail...there's something I forgot to ask the both of you... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 21:38:50 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA17643; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:38:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:38:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006001be1f01$a04bc0a0$6a8232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Dual EDP (was Re: Delaying MUTE action?) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:11:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"cff6e.0.WL3.aGqPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim Thanks for the quick response. The MuteMode=continuous didn't solve my problem completely - in that I still can't get the action of a MUTE press to delay to the end of the cycle ( which I had previously) - not immediate - which the manual indicates is the only way. I also have a another question I use my EDP along with my DAT in my home studio. I would love to have this setup in stereo. Could I sync the two machines (special cable??), controlling each with separate foot switches? Is the EDP foot controller of any benefit in controlling two EDP's. ( vs two EV5's for each) For my needs, two EV5 foot switches are all I need for my one EDP. Thanks in advance Gerry P manda@norlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 4:08 AM Subject: Re: Delaying MUTE action? >turn quantize parameter on, MuteMode=continuous. > >kim > > >At 09:15 PM 12/2/98 -0000, you wrote: >>I had my EDP set up so that when I hit MUTE, the loop would continue playing >>until the end of the current cycle and then mute - and hitting UNDO, started >>the loop from the start - immediately. >> >>Last night I was playing with some EDP settings and now I can't get back to >>the above. Not only that, but the manual says that MUTE always acts >>immediately??? >> >>Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >>Gerry P >>manda@norlink.net >> >> >> >> >________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 >ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 21:46:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA18517; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:46:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:46:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:24:43 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: Kaffe Matthews & Adam Wiltzie@33 degrees austin texas In-Reply-To: <36673638.47BCF2B0@tstar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"90OgS1.0.PE3.QDqPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:09 PM 12/3/98 -0600, you wrote: >Hey how was the Kaffe show?I saw her at the empty bottle in Chigago.Great show very inspiring.I posted this once before but do check out her show if in your area--she is really brillant & xceptioally musical in live sampling electronic ambient etc. Keenan After the show I spoke with two guys who are on this list (I've >forgotten both of your names somehow). I was the tenor >saxaphonist/guitarist who was rambling on about the echoplex. Anyway, if >you guys are out there send me some e-mail...there's something I forgot >to ask the both of you... > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 21:46:57 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA18612; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:46:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:46:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:46:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Discipline & DAP Resent-Message-ID: <"uCLvO2.0.9e3.pPqPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey Looper's, Just wanted to inform any DC/Balto local of a show at Phantasmagoria this weekend. List memeber Adam Levin's Dark Aether Project will be opening for Discipline. Discipline is from Michigan and a real shining star in the prog revival. If you have not heard Discipline before, don'tmiss this opportunity. Their 1997 release _Unfolded Like Staircase_ was one of my top picks for the year and as good as it is, it pales in comparison to their live performance. Their music is dark and brooding, full of emotion. Great organ and piano work, lots of twists and turns. Mood-wise think of Peter Hammill and Van der Graaf Generator. I opened for this group in Baltimore two years ago and they were hot! Most of you know the lowdown on the Dark Aether Project, so I won't spend a lot of bandwidth on them. Stick player Aaam Levin is always certain to pull a few amazing loops out of his rig during each set. The venue is Phantasmagoria in Wheaton MD which is just off of the Washington DC beltway on the north side. It's a very nice hall which has a capacity of 400 with tables around the room and a dance floor area (where we expect folks to boogie down!) in front of the stage. They serve homemade tex-mex food (including veggie friendly stuff) and a wide variety of microbrews on tap. It's an all ages venue. Needless to say if you're under 21, no drinking! Smokers have their own smoking lounge since it's not allowed in the main room. Phantasmagoria also has a record store, thus they're open all day long. Showtime is 9pm. Admission is $10 Directions to Phantasmagoria: Take Washington DC Beltway (495) toward Silver Spring. Exit at Rt 97 (Georgia Ave) North towards Wheaton Go 2-3 miles on Georgia, keeping to the right Turn right on University Blvd (after Safeway) Take first right onto Elkin. Phantasmagoria is on the left at 11319 I hope to see some of you there. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT Shockwave audio featuring our newest release Primary Colors:Blue www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 3 23:03:03 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA28974; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:03:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:03:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981204032953.00d74ec0@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:29:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Dual EDP (was Re: Delaying MUTE action?) Cc: Resent-Message-ID: <"Gsa8S.0.Tx5.oQrPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 09:11 PM 12/3/98 -0000, Gerry P wrote: >Thanks for the quick response. The MuteMode=continuous didn't solve my >problem completely - in that I still can't get the action of a MUTE press to >delay to the end of the cycle ( which I had previously) - not immediate - >which the manual indicates is the only way. please check my reply again, looks like you missed the first half of the sentence: "turn quantize parameter on." >I also have a another question > >I use my EDP along with my DAT in my home studio. I would love to have this >setup in stereo. > >Could I sync the two machines (special cable??), controlling each with >separate foot switches? Is the EDP foot controller of any benefit in >controlling two EDP's. >( vs two EV5's for each) > >For my needs, two EV5 foot switches are all I need for my one EDP. check out the echoplex FAQ on the Looper's Delight page. There is an entire section on stereo echoplexes: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ.html if you still have some question after that, let us know. kim >Thanks in advance >Gerry P >manda@norlink.net >-----Original Message----- >From: Kim Flint >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 4:08 AM >Subject: Re: Delaying MUTE action? > > >>turn quantize parameter on, MuteMode=continuous. >> >>kim >> >> >>At 09:15 PM 12/2/98 -0000, you wrote: >>>I had my EDP set up so that when I hit MUTE, the loop would continue >playing >>>until the end of the current cycle and then mute - and hitting UNDO, >started >>>the loop from the start - immediately. >>> >>>Last night I was playing with some EDP settings and now I can't get back >to >>>the above. Not only that, but the manual says that MUTE always acts >>>immediately??? >>> >>>Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>> >>>Gerry P >>>manda@norlink.net >>> >>> >>> >>> >>________________________________________________________ >>Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 >>ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com >> >> > > > > ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 00:15:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA06000; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:15:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:15:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36676737.522D52C9@jps.net> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 20:38:16 -0800 From: Roland Eberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Unbeatable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zmg0k.0.GR.7VsPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fairly fresh off H-C I've already got mine...but would jump on it for $180 if I didn't. They are everything and more than they're cracked up to be. FS: MINT LEXICON MPX-100 Asking Price: US$180 Condition: Mint Age: 1 months Description: my Brand new Lexicon mpx-100 $180+ half shipp cost No trade please Seller: jay Leslie, E-mail: racksnyder@aol.com Post Date: 12/3/98 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 03:25:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA32676; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:25:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 03:25:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812040709.CAA15962@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Cc: "loopers" Subject: ....B.L.U.E. tour schedule Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:10:03 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"aO0gR.0.yA6.t7vPs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From: eric potter > Subject: Can't find B.L.U.E. tour schedule > Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 3:36 PM > Hey! I looked around papabear.com, but could only find dates for last Spring. Anybody know where I can find out about California shows? here are the dates.. did you look in the Diary page??? that's where they reside... as well as some cool words about the shows so far, from Tony's hotel/laptop see any of you at the late show tomorrow..?? Dec. 1 - Woodstock NY - Joyous Lake - 914 679-0367 Dec. 2 - Philadelphia PA - Theater of Living Arts (2 shows) - 215 922-1011 Dec. 3 - New York - Bottom Line (2 shows) - 212 228-6300 Dec. 4 - New York - Bottom Line (2 shows) - 212 228-6300 Dec. 5 - Cambridge MA - House of Blues - 617 497-2229 Dec. 6 - Cambridge MA - House of Blues - 617 497-2229 Dec. 8 - Pontiac MI - 7th House - 248 335-9838 Dec. 9 - Chicago IL - Park West - 773 929-5959 > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 10:31:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA22441; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:31:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:31:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: BLUE TOUR DATES: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:57:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"OJ_2f1.0.I94.sY_Ps"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Some BLUE daes and locations... go to: http://www.elephant-talk.com/ for more... David K 09-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour Park West Chicago, IL 08-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour Seventh House Pontiac, MI 07-Dec-98 Gordon Haskell Midwest Shows The Grand Emporium Kansas City, MO 06-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour House Of Blues Cambridge, MA 06-Dec-98 Gordon Haskell Midwest Shows The Grand Emporium Kansas City, MO 05-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour House Of Blues Cambridge, MA 05-Dec-98 Gordon Haskell California Shows St Stephen's Green Santa Monica, CA 1026 Wilshire Blvd. 9pm. 04-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour Bottom Line New York, NY 7:30pm and 10:30pm shows 03-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour Bottom Line New York, NY 7:30pm and 10:30pm shows 03-Dec-98 Gordon Haskell California Shows Scruffy O'Shea's Marina del Rey, CA 822 Washington Blvd. 9pm. 02-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour The TLA Philadelphia, PA 2 shows. 01-Dec-98 Bruford Levin Upper Extremities East Coast Tour Joyous Lake Woodstock, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 18:16:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA30547; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:16:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:16:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36686CDC.874AFC96@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 15:14:54 -0800 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Frissell Gig (no loops, tho) References: <01be1e6b$24c86780$281cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"eErq23.0.S17.of6Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com greetings, just wanted to report back from the live music front - caught Bill Frissell (with Greg Leisz on all manner of slide geetar and David Piltch on standup bass) last night here in Santa Monica - a fine show, but with nary a hint of actual looping. if any of you also caught it and would hazard a guess as to the identity of the two mystery boxes (one a delay/ preset multi-effector, wedge-shaped with a blue metal frame, the other perhaps a half-space sized pre-amp with a foam "cloak") he had up off the floor, please respond privately ('cause neither of 'em looped, but damn it sure sounded good!)... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 18:28:39 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA32267; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:28:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:28:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36685F9D.567474A4@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 15:18:08 -0700 From: Bill Moyer Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers D Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qz1TA.0.gR7.pq6Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Gutitar Center was blowing out the Alesis Wedge for $99 bucks a while back and I bought two just because ( because I needed 4 discrete channels of rev. and had little cash). It's not rack mountable, but the sliders are actually pretty cool in the right context. Question for all you Lexicon fans, and reverb geeks out there, I haven't "A-B'd" these against anything. How does the wedge rate? How about the Digitech Studio 400? I'm obsessed with having four channels of everything, and not much budget, can I do better? Loop content: Wedge has a 5.5sec. delay ;-) Bill Moyer From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 19:24:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA09072; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:24:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:24:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36687C94.390F@dmans.com> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:21:40 -0600 From: "Mikell D. Nelson" Reply-To: mnelson@dmans.com Organization: Boomerang Musical Products X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: A/B switch recommend? References: <19981202202511.22644.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0kjll2.0.xg1.zf7Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Wanted to get a silent A/B switch for in/out of the loop. Can't have a > sound diminution or any pops! Thinking of Whirlwind, but would like to > hear some suggestions. Thanks. Kendrick Amplifiers makes a powered A/B/C box that's supposed to be quite good, i.e. quiet and doesn't affect the tone of your instrument. Their number is 512-990-5486. Tell them Boomerang sent you. Motley From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 19:27:25 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA09413; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:27:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:27:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0771F9E@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Stinkbug Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:10:17 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Resent-Message-ID: <"do9YQ2.0.ik1.Eh7Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy, Stinkbug is Nels Cline and GE Stinson, guitars, implements of destruction, loopage; Steuart Liebig, basses, implements of noise, loopage; Scott Amendola, drumset (and loopage at Bruno's?). We're doing a mini-tour 12-16 Dec. 12 Dec.: The Sweatshop, 1943 Mission, San Francisco, CA @ 9:00 p.m. - - $5.00 13 Dec.: Beanbender's, 2295 Shattuck, Berkeley, CA @ 8:00 p.m. - - $5.00 14 Dec.: Bruno's, 2389 Mission, San Francisco, CA @ 9:30 and 11:30 p.m. - - $?.00 15 Dec.: Art City 2, 31 Peking (corner of Peking and Main), Ventura, CA @ 8:30 p.m. - - $5.00 16 Dec.: Luna Park, 665 No. Robertson (near Robertson and Santa Monica), West Hollywood, CA @ 10:00 p.m. - - $6.00 Come on down if you get a chance stig From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 19:56:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA15265; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:56:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 19:56:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: Vortex needs service Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:46:22 -0800 Message-ID: <001601be1fe8$adb3fb80$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0771F9E@migarexch01.maritz.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"gIHPb.0.rA3.b88Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, The 'tap' button on my vortex broke, and the expression pedal input doesn't seem to be working properly. Does anyone know a Lexicon service center or other repair shop in the SF bay area? Maybe I should try contact Lexicon... Jonathan El-Bizri From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 4 20:48:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA25422; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:48:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 20:48:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36688B3A.F0ABDEAC@texas.net> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 19:24:12 -0600 From: Bobdog Catlin Reply-To: psbuddha@texas.net Organization: Pseudo Buddha/Doghouse Ent. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Stinkbug References: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0771F9E@migarexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"lmCb9.0.Uy4.Pi8Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com stig, i've always felt that stinkbug was one of the greatest names. rock on. bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 02:20:55 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA11833; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:20:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:20:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: jfa@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001601be1fe8$adb3fb80$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> References: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0771F9E@migarexch01.maritz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:21:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Altman Subject: Re: Vortex needs service Resent-Message-ID: <"djs5n3.0.k42.bkDQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:46 PM -0800 12/4/98, Jonathan El-Bizri wrote: >Hi, > > The 'tap' button on my vortex broke, and the expression pedal input >doesn't >seem to be working properly. Does anyone know a Lexicon service center or >other repair shop in the SF bay area? Maybe I should try contact Lexicon... > >Jonathan El-Bizri You might try Studio Maintenance in San Rafael, 415-485-6048. I don't know whether they are Lexicon approved, but they're good folks and know their stuff. John From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 11:36:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA05237; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:36:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:36:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36695FA8.A3D15F34@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 11:30:32 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: I will play loops through them Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Cv9Yr1.0.Y41.2xLQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all, Does any body have any experiance with the JBL Eon series powered speakers? I have not tried them but I am looking for power, affordibility (whats that), and above all tone in a compact setup. jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 12:53:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA15264; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:53:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:53:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ANET@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 12:43:48 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: low-budget reverb recommendations (?) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"-VEaa3.0.cN3.C3NQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lexicon mpx100 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 13:10:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA17685; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:10:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:10:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ANET@aol.com Message-ID: <641a8fc1.366975b1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:04:33 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZvRK_2.0.t44.NMNQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To run stereo effects on the mackie, buy your self a y-connector (stereo 1/4" split to two mono singles 1/4") On your effects out, plug the stereo 1/4" and send the split signal to the two mono (stereo left, stereo right) of your effects device, then bring two 1/4" mono plugs back to the effects return. Your now ready for stereo live performance. tip 1) adjustment of sound levels is done in two places a) on the board and b) on the effects device. make sure the effects device has plenty of signal by learning how to feed that signal at the normalized positions of the knobs on the board send aux 1. To do this, first make sure your line inputs from your guitar amps are set to about 70% of their line feed capability. Then adjust your line levels on the board (pre-mix) to about mid way and then bring the sliders to their proper operating position (0db about 70% of the slider level). Then press your solo button to read the LEDs on that signal, adjust your line levels until that signal never exceeds 0db. (this according to the mackie manual) You now have your line levels set, adjust the high, mid and bass to suit your taste. Now adjust the effect send on the board to its normalized position "you'll feel the click on the knob when you get to that position". Now send the signal for that channel by going to that slider and finding the effects send and turning it up about 1/3. You should have a signal going to your effects device. Check the lights on the effects device and adjust the input levels so that you don't overdrive the signal, turn the effect device mix to 100% and adjust the output levels of the effects device to whatever level appears to create a unity gain. From there go back to the board and adjust the effects return level to their normalized values. confused? it's no secret that you will need to spend a substantial amount of time with your board in order to get the best possible sounds. Many of these tips were learned by my going to internet sites in nashville and finding what the pros said. The biggest tip I learned is that you want to run your signals as wide open as possible, otherwise you will get band filtering which you cannot get back by your last stage EQ. good luck and happy mixing. in my opinion there are only a few who really know their boards, even among the professionals. i've gone to way too many concerts wanting to bail due to bad mixes. it is so irritating to pay a lot of money for a good concert and be dupped. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 17:37:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA12814; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:37:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:37:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401be209d$a2dd02a0$748867cf@brendan> From: "Brendan Flick" To: Subject: Re: I will play loops through them Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:21:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"4GEYp.0.9t2.ZDRQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff- I have a pair of powered ones and put loops and drums and stereo feed out of guitar through them - I've had one lose it's woofer within a week of getting them ( i believe that speaker's amp went south ) and store replaced it - since then (2 1/2 months) i have had no problems at all- for the price, size and speaker amp matching - i couldn't find a better deal - i tested peaveys version - they didn't compare in an a/b with jbls- so bottom line i'm happy and would reccomend them. play 'em hard at first to make sure if they flake out - they're flaking out while under warranty- Brendan iginal Message----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 11:39 AM Subject: I will play loops through them >hey all, > >Does any body have any experiance with the JBL Eon >series powered speakers? I have not tried them but >I am looking for power, affordibility (whats >that), and above all tone in a compact setup. > >jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 19:22:23 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA25360; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:22:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:22:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199812060008.QAA14126@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: I will play loops through them To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 16:08:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <36695FA8.A3D15F34@bellsouth.net> from "Jeff Duke" at Dec 5, 98 11:30:32 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"oFvds2.0.dl5.ThSQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > hey all, > > Does any body have any experiance with the JBL Eon > series powered speakers? I have not tried them but > I am looking for power, affordibility (whats > that), and above all tone in a compact setup. > > jeff My friend was using a JBL Eon as his amp (he plays Stick with MIDI'd synth and effects). I thought his sound was ok until I watched him try the same setup through an Eden bass head/Euphonic Audio cabinet rig and this 2nd setup had much better bass and warmer tone. It was a noticeable difference. He ended up buying one of the smaller Eden heads (a 400 watt-er). Then again, he's a Stick player so maybe his requirements are different from yours. Getting a good bass sound is very important to him. Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 19:49:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA28516; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:49:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:49:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <53e59220.3669d292@aol.com> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:40:50 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"zaFGC1.0.ak6.s9TQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/5/98 4:12:09 PM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, ANET@aol.com writes: << The biggest tip I learned is that you want to run your signals as wide open as possible, otherwise you will get band filtering which you cannot get back by your last stage EQ. >> what do you mean by this......"as wide open"?.........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 5 23:34:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA23676; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:34:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 23:34:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 20:21:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: New Mailing List Archive! Resent-Message-ID: <"gPJRx2.0.wQ5.VQWQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Ok folks, after months of development, It's time for the Grand Unveiling of the exciting, new: ** Looper's Delight Mailing List Archive ** http://www.annihilist.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive woo hoo!!! As you've no doubt noticed, the old archive was updated extremely infrequently. In fact, nothing has been added to it for 9 months now! This is because it required me to update it MANUALLY, which I hated doing. Very tedious, blow a whole weekend sort of a thing. Additionally, the old archive was difficult to navigate and it was nearly impossible to find specific bits of information in it. So it sucked universally. (I left it on the site, if you still want to check the old archives for some reason. http://www.annihilist.com/loop/archive/archive.html ) The new archive, on the other hand, kicks ass. Here's what we've got: - updated automatically, each day - every mail converted to an html page, for easy browsing - lots o' navigational links, for easy navigating - Date index - Thread index - Author index - automatically split by month, to keep index sizes sane - a very speedy search engine with all sorts of helpful features - provision of the actual mailbox files, so you can download a month of mail and view it in your own mail program as you would any other mail. - various other goodies, like handling attachments, handling mime, converting URLs and email addresses into live links, etc, etc. This all comes to us courtesy of the Free Software Movement. Amazing software, created by remarkably talented people, given away free just to make the world a better place. I can't tell you how happy I am that such things are possible, cause there's no way in hell I could have written this stuff! (only downside is those clever unix hackers have no sense of aesthetics at all, so some of it is a little ugly. but beggars can't be choosers, eh?) Special thanks to Arthur Gatesy, who provided me a lot of help and tips in the beginning so that I was able to get the rest pieced together and setup by myself. Thanks Art! One thing: the new archive is big! All your chatter over the years is about 20MB of text. The html version is about 80MB. Altogether, the archive is over 100MB! I had to increase my disk allotment for this, which means more $$$ :-(. The only expected revenue for Looper's Delight is the CD projects, so for those of you working on that, get crackin'! Otherwise, I'll have to embarass myself with shameless begging. For you geeky types who like to know these things, the archive uses the following software: - procmail and a procmail recipe to create monthly mailbox archives - Mhonarc, the awesome program by Earl Hood that converts mail to html - The Glimpse search engine - Wilma, by Jason Tibbitts and David Wolfe - the scripts which tie Mhonarc and Glimpse together, managing the search indexer and providing the search interface and the top archive page. - runs on a linux machine with Apache web server. - I can tell you more if anyone cares. Check it out, have fun, let me know if you have any problems! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 6 00:34:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA31826; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 00:34:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 00:34:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <007a01be20d8$747b1240$2b7a070c@govinda.cyber-dyne.com> From: "Marc Roche" To: Subject: Re: I will play loops through them Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:22:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"IWicg1.0._P7.AIXQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Jeff, I run my echoplex through a Mackie 1202 and two JBL EON Powered 15" speakers. I love them--they do everything well, especially basses and synths. You cannot make these suckers distort. Ciao -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 8:35 AM Subject: I will play loops through them >hey all, > >Does any body have any experiance with the JBL Eon >series powered speakers? I have not tried them but >I am looking for power, affordibility (whats >that), and above all tone in a compact setup. > >jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 6 16:24:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA30123; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 16:24:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 16:24:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: I will play loops through them Date: Sun, 6 Dec 98 14:13:09 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Doug Tapia To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1299169188-28975884@arts.unco.edu> Resent-Message-ID: <"22EIV1.0.iv6.K8lQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >hey all, > >Does any body have any experiance with the JBL Eon >series powered speakers? I have not tried them but >I am looking for power, affordibility (whats >that), and above all tone in a compact setup. > >jeff > Jeff, JBL's EONs are Great. I use a couple for my (ever expanding) synth rig. They have great sound, sound like JBLs are compact, extremely ruged and have plenty of bi-amplified power. There's also a number of ways they can be positioned, including as an upright cab, tilted like a monitor or on stands. Considering that the price includes everything you need to amplify your signal, I'd say they are very affordable. The fifteens sound great by themselves, or if you're looking for the ultimate in tight, focused, flat sound, get two tens on sticks and couple them with the 15 inch sub. Happy looping, -doug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 6 18:02:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA10638; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:02:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:02:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002401be2140$2e029fa0$ba8232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Re: Dual EDP (was Re: Delaying MUTE action?) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:43:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"40wE41.0.xj1.yVmQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim >please check my reply again, looks like you missed the first half of the >sentence: "turn quantize parameter on." Ooops! Works perfect now! Thanks Gerry P manda@norlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 6 18:31:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA16993; Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:31:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:31:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <366B1225.4BC1AB5B@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 06 Dec 1998 18:24:22 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: I will play loops through them References: <1299169188-28975884@arts.unco.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nTBgz2.0.qf3.v4nQs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com thanks for all the great tips on everything, this list is the greatest! I would have floundered around awhile figuring out that Mackie but its up and running. I am still trying many of the tips from the other users, its deep. yours, jeff New tune at the lab. a geometry of nature http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html Doug Tapia wrote: > >hey all, > > > >Does any body have any experiance with the JBL Eon > >series powered speakers? I have not tried them but > >I am looking for power, affordibility (whats > >that), and above all tone in a compact setup. > > > >jeff > > > Jeff, > > JBL's EONs are Great. I use a couple for my (ever expanding) synth rig. > They have great sound, sound like JBLs are compact, extremely ruged and > have plenty of bi-amplified power. There's also a number of ways they > can be positioned, including as an upright cab, tilted like a monitor or > on stands. Considering that the price includes everything you need to > amplify your signal, I'd say they are very affordable. The fifteens > sound great by themselves, or if you're looking for the ultimate in > tight, focused, flat sound, get two tens on sticks and couple them with > the 15 inch sub. > > Happy looping, > > -doug From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 7 09:51:35 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA27423; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:51:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:51:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <366BCBC1.B49EF497@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:36:17 +0100 From: Claude Voit Reply-To: c.voit@vtx.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: New Mailing List Archive! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"-vkT83.0.xl5.WI-Qs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com kim excellent brilliant I will definitly try to learn the search language as there are so many interesting topics in there a Question : is this database protected against spam mail adress sucking ? and If you want to save some space on your harddisk delete every mail with "UNSbscrribe" included ;=) Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 7 12:11:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA18631; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:11:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:11:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: Subject: RE: Vortex needs service Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:48:37 -0800 Message-ID: <003a01be2201$6fac7f40$26ee8fd1@jelbizri.linkexchange.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"lEb-W.0.QN3.rQ0Rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks, I will check them out. Jonathan El-Bizri > -----Original Message----- > From: John Altman [mailto:jfa@best.com] > Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 6:22 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Vortex needs service > > > At 4:46 PM -0800 12/4/98, Jonathan El-Bizri wrote: > >Hi, > > > > The 'tap' button on my vortex broke, and the expression pedal input > >doesn't > >seem to be working properly. Does anyone know a Lexicon service center or > >other repair shop in the SF bay area? Maybe I should try contact > Lexicon... > > > >Jonathan El-Bizri > > You might try Studio Maintenance in San Rafael, 415-485-6048. I don't know > whether they are Lexicon approved, but they're good folks and know their > stuff. > > John > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 7 14:28:05 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA09456; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:28:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:28:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <7a3d0a09.366c25a3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:59:47 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: rang-o-mania Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"tr0yW1.0.q-.0M2Rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i discovered that if i send the aux out on the rang into my alesis q-2 that i can get a processed loop as well as the original loop and then i can blend these two signals using the volume wheel, very nice......now i wonder what little tricks can i use the aux in for? any ideas?.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 7 15:15:29 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA17912; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:15:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:15:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <366BCBC1.B49EF497@vtx.ch> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:46:06 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: New Mailing List Archive! Resent-Message-ID: <"kcLhn.0.c73.Q13Rs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:36 AM -0800 12/7/98, Claude Voit wrote: >kim >excellent brilliant >I will definitly try to learn the search language as there are so many >interesting topics in there yes, indeed there are! >a Question : is this database protected against spam mail adress sucking >? no, I have no idea how that could be done. it shouldn't be any different from the previous archive, so whatever amount of spam that caused, this should be the same. use bogus mail addresses if it really bugs you, or learn to be quick with the delete key, or just enjoy your opportunity to get 50million porno pics and make $$$$millions in multi-level marketing. :-) >and >If you want to save some space on your harddisk delete every mail with >"UNSbscrribe" included :-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 7 23:31:49 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA28174; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:31:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:31:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812080415.UAA23603@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 20:11:10 -0800 Subject: Looper's Delight Volume 2 CDs available NOW! From: "Matt and Kristy McCabe" To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5S-1_2.0.qL6.vUARs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes folks that's right...the Looper's Delight Volume 2 compilation CD is *finally* available. Featuring 22 of your favorite loopers on 2 CDs for only $17.50 (shipped just about anywhere). To order your copy, please visist: http://www.finleysound.com/Looper_CD.html A portion of the proceeds will be given to Kim Flint to help ease the financial burden of hosting this wonderful list. Matt __________________________________ Matthew F. McCabe Finley Sound Design http://www.finleysound.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 02:05:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA12027; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:05:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 02:05:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812080415.UAA23603@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:58:00 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Volume 2 CDs available NOW! Resent-Message-ID: <"jEAqJ2.0.3k2.ftCRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:11 PM -0800 12/7/98, Matt McCabe wrote: >Yes folks that's right...the Looper's Delight Volume 2 compilation CD is >*finally* available. Featuring 22 of your favorite loopers on 2 CDs for Fantastic! Thanks for all your hard work on this, Matt! And thanks to everyone who sent in a track, I can't wait to hear it. now everyone else, go buy a CD and support your fellow loopers! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 09:24:00 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA24571; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:24:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:24:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ANET@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:54:43 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: mixing a looping rig Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"rTskS3.0.d15.r-IRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/5/98 6:50:17 PM Central Standard Time, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: > what do you mean by this......"as wide open"?.........michael Start at adjust overall run 50% run 60% 50% volume here guitar---|---preamp--------lineout----|-------mackie--trim---hi--mid--bass---- main slider----(B) Can adjust overall 0db (Unity) 0db here too. (B)-----main out----|-----compressor----|-----EQ---|------AMP----------|---------Speakers Wide open means your preamps, lineout, trim and channel sliders are passing as much signal as possible. This reduces line level noise, and stops a lossy signal. I've been working on my overall sound for two years now. I can dial in a decent sound in about 20 minutes on my Mackie 1402. Do yourself a favor and spend an entire weekend with the board, amps, compressor and eqs. and hack until your sound is exactly where you want it, then write all your settings on a piece of paper and start from there the next time you set up. You'll find over time that each device input will have its own mix. I'll discuss effects loops on the mackie in another note. Live vs. Recording settings are completely different approaches. (another note) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 23:29:48 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA23545; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:29:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:29:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:17:28 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Volume 2 CDs available NOW! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"Tvy4K2.0.dm._9SRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com can we do a group buy?..........just kidding!.......cant wait to get my copy.......btw, how can i get the first LD cd?........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 23:50:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA25686; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:50:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:50:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: David Kirkdorffer To: Kim Flint , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Buying the Looper CD from the Loopers-Delight Web-site? Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:42:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"pqYST2.0.Hf7.YeRRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does it make sence to create a page on the Loopers site so people can order the CD over the web? dk > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@annihilist.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 1:58 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: Looper's Delight Volume 2 CDs available NOW! > > At 8:11 PM -0800 12/7/98, Matt McCabe wrote: > >Yes folks that's right...the Looper's Delight Volume 2 compilation CD is > >*finally* available. Featuring 22 of your favorite loopers on 2 CDs for > > Fantastic! Thanks for all your hard work on this, Matt! And thanks to > everyone who sent in a track, I can't wait to hear it. > > now everyone else, go buy a CD and support your fellow loopers! > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 17:41:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA30217; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:41:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:41:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981209030341.0087ba18@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:03:41 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Buying the Looper CD from the Loopers-Delight Web-site? Resent-Message-ID: <"8aVE32.0.nz3.8iURs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 06:42 PM 12/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >Does it make sence to create a page on the Loopers site so people can order >the CD over the web? uh, you can order it over the web! (you should know that!) It's available through Marathon Records, who is handling all ordering, shipping, etc. The page on their site for the CD is here: http://www.finleysound.com/Looper_CD.html and the page where you order is here: http://www.finleysound.com/order.html they say they take visa, mastercard, american express, and discover. And yes, there is even a link from the main Looper's Delight site. (although I still need to add something like "BUY IT NOW!!!" to the wording :-) so now you have no excuse! kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com Chromatic Research 408-752-9284 http://www.chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 18:01:56 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA00095; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:01:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 18:01:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812090324.TAA23077@crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: HD recording specs Date: Tue, 8 Dec 98 21:26:45 +0100 x-sender: tiktok@pop.a001.sprintmail.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Tiktok Mobile HQ To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"zUyRl.0.526.jxVRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm looking into an HD recording setup, on a Mac-based system. My question is: how fast does the hard drive have to be for HD recording? Under 10ms? The system I'm looking at, a 300mHz G3 has an IDE drive. Will this cut it, or will I need to invest in a wide/fast SCSI card and a drive? Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 17:57:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA32472; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:57:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:57:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Trisstine@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:12:39 EST To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re:Getting Started Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"PQ5592.0.Dr2.-sTRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Listers, 12/8 I've been playing guitar for quite a while but recently have decided to look into looping as a compostional tool and as a performance tool. I already have a fairly decent guitar rig, but would like to know if there are any must haves for the beginning looping guitarist. I've got a decent budget to work with, so I was wondering if there is a "do it all machine" like the Eventide series of boxes, or would I be better off going with several different units such as 2 Oberheim Echoplexes, a Rocktron Intellipitch etc. Performance is the area I'm most interested in so that would be my main consideration, ease of use during performance, roadworthiness, and so on. However, entertaining myself and my neighbors is also a possibilty, where tap dancing on pedals is not a big problem. Any info or help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Sincerely, Chris Olden trisstine@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 8 23:58:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA29620; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:58:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:58:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000301be2364$5cd7c960$c5b854ce@mark.asisoftware.com> From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: B.L.U.E. Review Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:09:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"3MebL2.0.1Q6.CVVRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I saw Bruford-Levin Upper Extremities at the 7th House in Pontiac, Michigan, last night. They were fantastic. David Torn did lots of amazing loops--especially when he held (and waved) a small tape player over his guitar's pickups and looped the recording of mid-eastern music through his EDP. They're performing in Chicago tonight. Don't miss it. Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 11:20:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA00500; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:20:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:20:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <366E91E2.B0E16D17@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 16:06:10 +0100 From: Claude Voit Reply-To: c.voit@vtx.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Vortex footswitch improovement brainstorm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"X3rJM3.0.rX4.m4ZRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey all Came back from my Vortex crisis thanks for the kind words of psychological support <¦] Just had an idea about the tap foot switch of the vortex why not simulate it by hooking it with a tempo source What is needed: audio click as tempo source (provided by metronome, seq click out ,drum machine 2- relay or else that simulates the vortex switch I don't have the expertise to build that but I'm sure we could all brainstorm a little on this idea until one of you engineers makes a schematics this could also be used probably for other effects that have a tap tempo foot switch: Echoplex, G force... Audio in---vol adjust----divider (x clicks = 1 SW action)----out to FX on the box SW 1 = normal tap tempo; SW 2 = send switch action to fx SW 1 should be same type as the vortex SW 2 should be momentary type of switch so you can send the nb of switch actions you want this is the start idea please join in Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 15:33:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA16547; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:33:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:33:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:56:14 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Getting Started Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"e10vs2.0.HO2.aOjRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/9/98 3:51:51 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, Trisstine@aol.com writes: << Performance is the area I'm most interested in so that would be my main consideration, ease of use during performance, roadworthiness, and so on. no need to fandango when ya got the boomerango!....... its easy and its a tank....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 15:38:32 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA17449; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:38:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:38:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <366E91E2.B0E16D17@vtx.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:34:42 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Vortex footswitch improovement brainstorm Resent-Message-ID: <"U0kQj1.0.452.wHjRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com not really answering the question, but adding a little tidbit of info: At 7:06 AM -0800 12/9/98, Claude Voit wrote: >audio click as tempo source (provided by metronome, seq click out ,drum >machine >this could also be used probably for other effects that have a tap tempo >foot switch: Echoplex, G force... you can actually plug an audio click source (metronome, drum machine, etc.) directly into the BeatSync jack of the echoplex, and use it for synchronizing loops to the tempo. Interface-wise, it works much like using midi clock. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 17:32:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA15335; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:32:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:32:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981209170133.00798860@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 17:01:33 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: OT: B.L.U.E. tour Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"vMOOe2.0.Nz.MHlRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 16:57:01 -0500 >To: door-x >From: murkie >Subject: B.L.U.E. tour > >hey. > >having been lucky enough to catch a couple shows of the recent tour, i thought i might share some observations. > >whilst trying to prove that you really can drive a buick to death, i hit the 12/1 show at the joyous lake in woodstock and the 12/5 gig at the boston-area house of blues. the differences between these shows were many, woodstock being a hometown (for torn and levin) warm-up and the h.o.b. show being mid-tour. the woodstock gig was dubbed by bruford "david torn's christmas party" and torn & levin observed that they thought they knew every single person in the audience. the woodstock show was loose and short (2 quick sets), the h.o.b. longer & tighter with fewer (noticeable) technical difficulties. the crowd at the woodstock gig was small and attentive, the h.o.b. was rowdier (with a couple of really scarry drunks). > >from these two shows i have also concluded the following: > >- bill bruford wants to be a stand-up comic when he grows up. > >- levin only photographs his side of the audience > >- botti is a magnet for beautiful women (speaking of which, is there a provision in their rider requesting a really cute blonde waitress for every show? i wonder...) > >- paul (guitar & bass tech) should get combat pay > >- torn is a stomp-box Barishnikov > > >at the h.o.b. show, i was lucky enough to be right in front of torn about 8 feet away from his amps (and unbeknownst to me, right next to anil prasad) i have never spent so much time at a gig watching someone's feet (torn's, not anil's). :^) > >there were a couple of nice improv/works in progress and at the h.o.b. they played a burning "3 minutes of pure entertainment". > >supposedly all of these shows (and the previous tour) were archived to adat, with a live album coming out next year! :^) > >later, >m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 18:24:44 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA29156; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:02:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:02:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <842e1334.366e87ba@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:22:50 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: FS: Lexicon Jamman Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 38 Resent-Message-ID: <"ooEnq2.0.IH3.VVYRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's today is an XMAS cult looping special. I am going to sell a Jamman. It's loaded with 32 seconds of memory, and comes complete with manual and foot pedal. These things still have that signature mellow Lexicon sound...very easy on the ears out to 14khz...and the interface is straightforward. $400 plus buyer pays UPS COD shipping. contact fmplautus@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 18:25:56 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA27065; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 03:59:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 03:59:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <40a5fc45.366e823b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:59:23 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Vortex/JamMan footswitch Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 171 Resent-Message-ID: <"_WgDh1.0.PF2.C5YRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Vortex JamMan footswitch by mail order (or Maplin stores, UK) Maplin Electronics (world service) tel +44 (0) 1702 554000 order code YK75S Double foot switch inc VAT =A312.25(UK sterling)+pp (credit card ordering) I've just found this in the catalogue, it's made by Re-an and is the same unit that lex supply . But its supplied as latching (easily convertable to non-latching they say= ) . This is how You'll need a good medium sized phillips screwdriver and pointy ended plie= rs i) remove bottom plate, (two central screws) ii) remove plastic nut from jack socket iii) lift out circuit board iv) now the fiddly bit, you'll see a small part of the switch which is mad= e from silver colored wire and wiggles from side to side when you press the switc= h. grab the end of this which is nearest to the jack socket with the pli= ers. You now need to pull away vertically until the end you have hold of comes oout of its hole, without pulling out the other end. Now twist to one side and release so that the end you have hold of falls back along side of the switch. It's easy to do but hard to explain without pictures. also replacement switches for above order code FH67 (same source). These aren't actually that good but they are what lex use and I don't know oof another. Andy Butler. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 19:10:19 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA24939; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:10:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:10:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <366F00D0.3168AEB0@musician.org> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 15:59:34 -0700 From: eric potter Reply-To: eric@musician.org Organization: Hog Wild Music and Sound FX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: rang-o-mania References: <7a3d0a09.366c25a3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7-JP82.0.tV4.9tmRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The aux input is good for another source like a sampler, or how about a mic and preamp. You could fly vocalizations in while your playing. I sometimes have a Mini-disc player with all kinds of weird samples from radio, TV, ethereal shortwave, etc. On one disc I have tons of loopable tidbits, and I can just call up number 26 or whatever (As long as I remember the ID numbers). Or sometimes I jack an AM radio straight in and make it more of a live performance including whatever's happening on the local all-Korean station (hey, I'm in Los Angeles...). AM radio is a great source for adding odd vocals to loops, and of course tuning in the radio noises that your own equipment generates makes it an all-original performance. One thing the aux might be handy for would be feeding it an aux send from your mixer (if you can spare one) right back into the 'rang. Of course beware of electronic feedback, but with care you might be able to alter the texture and maybe create a deteriorating loop as the 'rang attenuates the earlier material while replacing it with a recycled, grainier pass of the same material. Just theorizing here. Could be cool. Anybody else? Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > i discovered that if i send the aux out on the rang into my alesis q-2 that i > can get a processed loop as well as the original loop and then i can blend > these two signals using the volume wheel, very nice......now i wonder what > little tricks can i use the aux in for? any ideas?.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 19:49:13 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA11993; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:49:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:49:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Trisstine@aol.com Message-ID: <57df5123.366f14e5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:25:09 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: OT: B.L.U.E. tour Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"cla993.0.ql.SOnRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Murkie,(or anyone else who caught the B.L.U.E. tour) 12/9 Haven't had the oppurtunity to see D.T. perform live, but have his looping videos and they're great! Just out of curiosity, what knd of pedals did D.T. deploy/employ(besides the c.v. pedals) during the gigs? Thanks! Chris Olden trisstine@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 20:51:38 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA06505; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:51:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:51:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981209202842.0079db80@panther.middlebury.edu> X-Sender: mchriste@panther.middlebury.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 20:28:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: murkie Subject: Re: OT: B.L.U.E. tour In-Reply-To: <57df5123.366f14e5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"EmvLM.0.jc7.fIoRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 07:25 PM 12/9/98 EST, you wrote: > > Murkie,(or anyone else who caught the B.L.U.E. tour) >12/9 > Haven't had the oppurtunity to see D.T. perform live, but have his >looping > videos and they're great! Just out of curiosity, what knd of pedals did >D.T. > deploy/employ(besides the c.v. pedals) during the gigs? Thanks! boss aw-2 auto wah t.c. electronics sustainer t.c. electronics phaser several volume pedals controlling you-name-it and several stompies i didn't recognize and couldn't read the labelling on. m ===================================================================== = = = M a r k C h r i s t e n s e n = = Cramped Quarters Studio / Jasperpottamus Music Publishing = = internet: murkie@middlebury.edu = = http://www.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkie.html = = = ===================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 22:06:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA18287; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:06:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:06:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812100358.DAA08597@captain.celtic.co.uk> Subject: Re: HD recording specs Date: Thu, 10 Dec 98 02:58:58 -0000 x-sender: martins@mail.celtic.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"orQyO1.0.Fy3.rUpRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I'm looking into an HD recording setup, on a Mac-based system. My >question is: how fast does the hard drive have to be for HD recording? >Under 10ms? The system I'm looking at, a 300mHz G3 has an IDE drive. >Will this cut it, or will I need to invest in a wide/fast SCSI card and a >drive? > >Travis Hartnett You'll get a pretty low track count out of the IDE drive. You can probably use a regular SCSI drive attached to the mac's built in SCSI, you don't really need super-fast drives but the faster the better. Go for less than 10ms sek time and sustained transfer of 10Mb/s or more. Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 9 22:13:55 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA19364; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:13:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:13:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <366F3B0B.1951@interlog.com> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 22:07:55 -0500 From: Joel Silver X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: A3000 vs. SP-808? X-URL: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"zRGm13.0.W64.qYpRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello there...I'm new to this list, but I am delighted to have found you all. I'm wondering if anyone can offer any insight about a little internal debate I've been having. Although I'm sure this question has already been posed several times, here goes.... What are some +'s and -'s when comparing these 2 machines (A3000 and SP-808)? I'm primarily interested in ease/speed of use, sound quality, capabilities, features, sexiness, versitility, power, and I guess last but not least, live usage. Right then...thanks in advance. jsilver From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 00:21:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA05387; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:21:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:21:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:42:48 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: OT: B.L.U.E. tour Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"n_PKg2.0.Mz7.B7rRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/9/98 6:50:58 PM, Trisstine@aol.com writes: >Haven't had the oppurtunity to see D.T. perform live, but have his looping > videos and they're great! Just out of curiosity, what knd of pedals >did D.T. deploy/employ(besides the c.v. pedals) during the gigs? He seems to be using pretty much the same pedals as in his video....some differences I noted at the Chicago show- he has "industrial" switches on his EDP controller pedal, and he hwas one of those volume pedals with the string of lights (I don't recall the brand). Oh, btw, it was a fantastic show......and yes, Bruford is pretty funny. Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 01:19:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA14523; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:19:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:19:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: RE: HD recording specs Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:44:50 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01be2400$34d31040$c923dacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <199812100358.DAA08597@captain.celtic.co.uk> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"IUeGA1.0.W72.4-rRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I think one item that is platform-independent is caching. If you've got a 450MHz machine and a 7ms drive, you're still going to be disappointed in the performance unless you've got a sizable cache. Thoughts on this, folks? Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week (Flip Wilson)! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 02:02:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA19205; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:02:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:02:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981210043600.20557.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:36:00 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: HD recording specs To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"D0p0I.0.YC4.CusRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Event Electronics has a free software program, "Echo Reporter" http://www.event1.com/ that will analyze a system and give specific information for recording w/ their hardware (PC/MAC-Layla, Gina, etc.) I'm not sure though whether the Echo Reporter works on a Mac. I believe the speed of the hard drive is relative to the number of tracks to be recorded/played at once as well as sample rate, etc. Hard drive size is another consideration as sound files can become huge. I have started using a Travan 4/8 gig tape drive with my PC to store some wav files, using Seagate's Direct Tape Access which allows access to the tape drive as if it were a hard drive. Its access is too slow to process or record, but it is handy for storage and transfer. I can store 4/8 gigs for $30+-, keeping lots of wav handy. Randy Jones ---Martin Shellard wrote: > > >I'm looking into an HD recording setup, on a Mac-based system. My > >question is: how fast does the hard drive have to be for HD recording? > >Under 10ms? The system I'm looking at, a 300mHz G3 has an IDE drive. > >Will this cut it, or will I need to invest in a wide/fast SCSI card and a > >drive? > > > >Travis Hartnett > > You'll get a pretty low track count out of the IDE drive. You can > probably use a regular SCSI drive attached to the mac's built in SCSI, > you don't really need super-fast drives but the faster the better. Go for > less than 10ms sek time and sustained transfer of 10Mb/s or more. > > > > Martin Shellard > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 07:51:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA19813; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:51:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:51:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <366FC0D6.21B14AE8@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:38:46 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: a300 vs sp 808 References: <199812100805.DAA27318@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"O43iX.0._L4.dzxRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In fact, I would choose the EMU ESI 4000. Wait, I dfid choose it. Mmmmm... (Sound quality, more than anything and price were the two main reasons. It is equipped with a zip drive and the turbo option. All tests point the superior sound of the ESI 4000 over the A3000, in the same price range. For teh Sp 808, I can't tell, but the filters on the Emu, that I know, are a real pleasure... Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 08:08:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA21704; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:08:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:08:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <366FC2EE.51FD@club-internet.fr> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:47:42 +0100 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr Organization: PERILLUX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: DJRND2 Fs=40khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CLqpj3.0.Ll4.bByRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello I have upgrated the DJRND2 to a sampling rate frequency of 40 khz, which gives now a 19 khz bandwith. Some prototypes are available if you wish to try. http://www.club-internet.fr/membres/perille So long Emmanuel PERILLE perille@club-internet.fr From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 08:55:56 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA27093; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:55:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:55:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981210134341.00dccab8@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:43:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: A3000 vs. SP-808? Resent-Message-ID: <"o01tF3.0.5H6.k_yRs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi they are 2 different machines, but if you want to do a great investment for the future go for tha A3000. It's a real sampler (not phrase sampler like the SP808) with a lot of real time features. plus 3 internal multi FX (a lot of modern processing), great support on the web (A3K central and mailing list), multi output kit for few dollars, a lot of filters, sequence reader and a great sound. Use it along a PC for sample editing and it's a killer! ciao leo At 22.07 09/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hello there...I'm new to this list, but I am delighted to have found >you all. > >I'm wondering if anyone can offer any insight about a little internal >debate I've been having. Although I'm sure this question has already >been posed several times, here goes.... > >What are some +'s and -'s when comparing these 2 machines (A3000 and >SP-808)? I'm primarily interested in ease/speed of use, sound >quality, capabilities, features, sexiness, versitility, power, and I >guess last but not least, live usage. > >Right then...thanks in advance. > >jsilver > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 13:46:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA04917; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:46:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:46:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981210175300.24658.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:53:00 -0800 (PST) From: H IP Subject: MIDI Sync for Echoplex and Live Setup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"MQI9n3.0.hA.321Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear all, I sync-ed my computer (with Logic Audio on Mac and Cubase VST on PC) to EDP via MIDI (Computer as master). After I've recorded a couple of "Next" loops, the EDP is out of sync with the computer. I found the start point is drifting and finally my EDP is complete out of sync with the computer. However, it sometimes go back in sync after I "Mute" and un-"Mute". I'm using the latest s/w version 5.0 which is supposed to be perfect for MIDI sync. I've two units of EDP and they have the same problem. Anyone has similar experience? Also, I want to play the EDP "live" with my drummer. I'd like to let my drummer hear the "click" on my EDP without disturbing others (of course, I don't want the audiences hear the click) and all other band players follow the beat from drummer. One of my setup is to use a drum machine as a master MIDI clock and let my drum hear it directly. However, the drum machine has a low volume and the drummer cannot hear when everyone plays. I was thinking to use a PC lab top but it failed me with the above problem. Anyone has better suggestion for the simplest setup so that I can have a "click" for my drummer? Besides, how do you guys use the Echoplex for live with a band? Any comments are highly appreciated. Alan ---Kim Flint wrote: > > not really answering the question, but adding a little tidbit of info: > > At 7:06 AM -0800 12/9/98, Claude Voit wrote: > >audio click as tempo source (provided by metronome, seq click out ,drum > >machine > > > >this could also be used probably for other effects that have a tap tempo > >foot switch: Echoplex, G force... > > you can actually plug an audio click source (metronome, drum machine, etc.) > directly into the BeatSync jack of the echoplex, and use it for > synchronizing loops to the tempo. Interface-wise, it works much like using > midi clock. > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 13:43:05 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA04491; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:43:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:43:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:17:27 -0800 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19981210043600.20557.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: tape backup (was Re: HD recording specs) Resent-Message-ID: <"EVtHi1.0.P4.f_0Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Interesting... Does anyone have other comments on tape backup systems? good or bad experiences with various media? >Hi, > >Event Electronics has a free software program, "Echo Reporter" > >http://www.event1.com/ > >that will analyze a system and give specific information for recording >w/ their hardware (PC/MAC-Layla, Gina, etc.) I'm not sure though >whether the Echo Reporter works on a Mac. I believe the speed of the >hard drive is relative to the number of tracks to be recorded/played >at once as well as sample rate, etc. Hard drive size is another >consideration as sound files can become huge. I have started using a >Travan 4/8 gig tape drive with my PC to store some wav files, using >Seagate's Direct Tape Access which allows access to the tape drive as >if it were a hard drive. Its access is too slow to process or record, >but it is handy for storage and transfer. I can store 4/8 gigs for >$30+-, keeping lots of wav handy. > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 14:25:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA12413; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:25:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:25:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812102002.UAA01624@captain.celtic.co.uk> Subject: Re: MIDI Sync for Echoplex and Live Setup Date: Thu, 10 Dec 98 19:02:56 -0000 x-sender: martins@mail.celtic.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"fcxJT.0.Yd1.yc1Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >One of my setup is to use a drum machine as a master MIDI clock and >let my drum hear it directly. However, the drum machine has a low >volume and the drummer cannot hear when everyone plays. I was thinking >to use a PC lab top but it failed me with the above problem. > >Anyone has better suggestion for the simplest setup so that I can have >a "click" for my drummer? Yes, buy a headphone amplifier for your drummer to monitor the click through. Taking a pc laptop onstage? why that's just crazy talk! Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 15:02:32 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA19957; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:02:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:02:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: RE: tape backup (was Re: HD recording specs) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:25:35 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be2472$e1401ea0$ee3fdacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"fUJjc2.0.x-2.-_1Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > From: Chris Chovit [mailto:cho@newdream.net] > Interesting... Does anyone have other comments on tape > backup systems? > good or bad experiences with various media? It would almost be incumbent to think DAT tapes as the medium for tape backups these days, though the good old 3120's can still take 680MB on their own. From a functional standpoint, though, TAPE DIES. In one way or another, the medium is less-than-permanent. I think that, given the cost of DAT backup drives (the HP Surestore being a workhorse) and the decreasing cost of CD-R and CD-RW drives, that it's much better to save them on CD. And that tape should go the way of, well, tape, unless one needs to backup whole 4GB partitions at a time. When DVD becomes home-recordable this too should be historical. It's a wonder that 3M isn't thinking about this as well. Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 18:11:30 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA24668; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:11:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:11:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: John Neilson Message-Id: <199812102202.RAA03012@echonyc.com> Subject: Multiple Loops question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:02:06 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Yy1Ai1.0.Jx4.9_4Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I haven't had a chance to play with all of the latest generation of loopers, but here's a question that might help narrow things down for me: Which -- if any -- of these boxes will let you play multiple loops simultaneously? I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking to a parallel, but unrelated loop for another section. I mean having loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... running simultaneously in parallel, and being able to turn off #2 for a couple passes, then bring it back in and turn off #4, etc. You know, like an 8-track mixer with track mute buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger multiple samples while others are playing. I've been reading the lit, and while they'll all do more than one loop it's unclear if they'll do it in quite this way. Thanks! ----------------------- Tear Along Dotted Line ----------------------- John Neilson www.mixup.com jneil@mixup.com "a site for sore ears" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 19:06:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA01222; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:06:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:06:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:45:09 -0800 Message-ID: <00164304.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, John Neilson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"Ai0gK.0.7b7.zt5Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > ... I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking to a parallel, but > unrelated loop for another section. I mean having loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... > running simultaneously in parallel, and being able to turn off #2 for a couple > passes, then bring it back in and turn off #4, etc. You know, like an > 8-track mixer with track mute buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger > multiple samples while others are playing. Hi John... Bob Sellon from Lexicon has attempted to do this Channel approach to looper programming in an upgrade to the JamMan... Whether it's out of the beta phase and running smoothly is anyone's guess. OTOH you can easily achieve this approach with an old TEAC 3340 (is that the number?) 4 track deck. Of course you end up with giant rabbit ears and spindles hanging out in space... 8-) -miko From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 10 20:22:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA15659; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:22:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:22:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367070D0.467F@club-internet.fr> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 02:09:36 +0100 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr Organization: PERILLUX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re : Multiple loops question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DPddw3.0.Ni2.637Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Multiple loops question ? One answer = DJRND2 http://www.club-internet.fr/membres/perille prototypes available to try Emmanuel PERILLE perille@club-internet.fr From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 00:22:50 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA23004; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:22:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:22:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19981210175300.24658.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 21:13:57 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: MIDI Sync for Echoplex and Live Setup Resent-Message-ID: <"y_Fjc3.0.JH5._cASs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 9:53 AM -0800 12/10/98, H IP wrote: >Dear all, > >I sync-ed my computer (with Logic Audio on Mac and Cubase VST on PC) >to EDP via MIDI (Computer as master). After I've recorded a couple of >"Next" loops, the EDP is out of sync with the computer. I found the >start point is drifting and finally my EDP is complete out of sync >with the computer. However, it sometimes go back in sync after I >"Mute" and un-"Mute". > >I'm using the latest s/w version 5.0 which is supposed to be perfect >for MIDI sync. I've two units of EDP and they have the same problem. >Anyone has similar experience? Well, that should work. (It's always worked great for me, anyway...:-) check the following parameter settings: SwitchQuant = CYC Quantize = On Sync = IN 8ths/beat = something appropriate to your sequence Sounds to me like you might have SwitchQuant off? Also, watch the sync LEDs. While the clock is going you should see the dot on the far right of the numeric display blink at each cycle point. That tells you the echoplex is seeing the clock. Once you have a loop going, you should see the second-from-the-right dot blink at the same time as the rightmost one, at the startpoint. That one blinks each time the echoplex syncs the loop with the clock, at the start point. It should remain consistent with beginning of the bar of your sequencer (or whatever time increment you use). It shouldn't get off when you switch loops either, unless somehow you are switching out of time, without waiting for the echoplex to switch it automatically at the sync point. Or it could happen if you force one of the other loops to record out of sync (by pressing record again during the period when it is waiting for the sync, which is sometimes useful.) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 03:51:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA14477; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:51:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:51:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812110850.DAA19626@ulster.net> Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question Date: Fri, 11 Dec 98 03:41:08 -0500 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: evening To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"cw43y1.0.4C3.NgDSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Subject: Multiple Loops question > >Which -- if any -- of these boxes will let you play multiple loops >simultaneously? I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking >to a parallel, but unrelated loop for another section. I mean having >loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... running simultaneously in parallel, and being >able to turn off #2 for a couple passes, then bring it back in and >turn off #4, etc. You know, like an 8-track mixer with track mute >buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger multiple samples >while others are playing. I've wondering about this as well - my dream looper would be all of the above w/ pitch modulation, the ability to save the loops to a SCSI device, Full MIDi support and onboard FX ('verb at least). It Doesn't seem like it's too much to ask for but until I get an advanced E.E. degree I'll be hoping that my EDP & sampler (an ASR10) will have puppies one night... jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 10:19:20 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA24370; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:19:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:19:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981211150150.5024.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:01:50 -0800 (PST) From: H IP Subject: Re: MIDI Sync for Echoplex and Live Setup To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"lUfx52.0.5K5.uGJSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thanks for comments from Martin and Kim. I'll try it again and see what happen. By the way, I didn't mention that one reason I bring the laptop on stage is to play pre-recorded loops (since I used Logic Audio on Mac) in real time with drummer and myself playing the EDP. I have to play these pre-cooked loops since they are heavily processed (like pitch shifted and harmonic changed). I think some of you will prefer to bring a sampler, like ASR-10, S3000 or S760 (like David Torn). However, I'm using SampleCell at home, I can't bring it out. Second, I have almost all my recordings with Logic Audio. I can simply mute those MIDI sequences and let band member to perform. It may sound a bit ironic to some of you, but I just don't want everything "pre-cooked", and I would like to do some improvisatios, both for solo and loops on stage. ---Martin Shellard wrote: > > >One of my setup is to use a drum machine as a master MIDI clock and > >let my drum hear it directly. However, the drum machine has a low > >volume and the drummer cannot hear when everyone plays. I was thinking > >to use a PC lab top but it failed me with the above problem. > > > >Anyone has better suggestion for the simplest setup so that I can have > >a "click" for my drummer? > > Yes, buy a headphone amplifier for your drummer to monitor the click > through. Taking a pc laptop onstage? why that's just crazy talk! > > > > Martin Shellard > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 13:59:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA26610; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:59:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:59:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: John Neilson Message-Id: <199812111842.NAA12944@echonyc.com> Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:42:57 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Gk5hi1.0.Ju5.RTMSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Forwarded message: > >Subject: Multiple Loops question > > > >Which -- if any -- of these boxes will let you play multiple loops > >simultaneously? I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking > >to a parallel, but unrelated loop for another section. I mean having > >loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... running simultaneously in parallel, and being > >able to turn off #2 for a couple passes, then bring it back in and > >turn off #4, etc. You know, like an 8-track mixer with track mute > >buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger multiple samples > >while others are playing. > > I've wondering about this as well - my dream looper would be all of the > above w/ pitch modulation, the ability to save the loops to a SCSI > device, Full MIDi support and onboard FX ('verb at least). It Doesn't > seem like it's too much to ask for but until I get an advanced E.E. > degree I'll be hoping that my EDP & sampler (an ASR10) will have > puppies one night... > > jmw > So I gather that none of the current boxes do this? I had thought that the Echoplex would have been the one that might have his feature, given the big ticket price and the fact that it has the perfect foot controller for it (unlike the old JamMan). I can't believe this would be all that hard to do. ----------------------- Tear Along Dotted Line ----------------------- John Neilson www.mixup.com jneil@mixup.com "a site for sore ears" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 14:36:13 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA00376; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:36:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:36:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19981211150150.5024.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:16:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: MIDI Sync for Echoplex and Live Setup Resent-Message-ID: <"4KrLl1.0.MB7.syMSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 7:01 AM -0800 12/11/98, H IP wrote: >It may sound a bit ironic to some of you, but I just don't want >everything "pre-cooked", and I would like to do some improvisatios, >both for solo and loops on stage. I don't think that's very unusual for this list at all. Most people here seem to be quite interested in that mix of live and looped. That's a big focus of this idea of "looping", that it doesn't have to be all pre-cooked.....quite a few of us prefer to do all looping entirely on the fly and never precomopse anything at all. lots of interesting territory to explore there. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 21:36:56 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA10310; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 21:36:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 21:36:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981211215524.22172.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 08:55:24 +1100 (EST) From: Bret Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"S-Chq2.0.Uq1.t7TSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Am I stating the obvious, the EDP in brother sync with other EDP can do this, and more. bret ---Mike Biffle wrote: > > > ... I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking to a parallel, but > > unrelated loop for another section. I mean having loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... > > running simultaneously in parallel, and being able to turn off #2 for a couple > > passes, then bring it back in and turn off #4, etc. You know, like an > > 8-track mixer with track mute buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger > > multiple samples while others are playing. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 22:33:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA18278; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:33:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:33:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <85cc8be7.3671df5a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:13:30 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Echoplex? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Casablanca - Windows sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"FKYme3.0.hy3.Q2USs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Im looking to buy a used echoplex, anybody? Any leads? Rodrigo Kriist@Aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 22:32:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA18188; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:32:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:32:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <663e72f8.3671dd14@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:03:48 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: OT: B.L.U.E. tour Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Resent-Message-ID: <"K95jh.0.Pw3.T1USs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Marzzz@aol.com mighta writ: >He seems to be using pretty much the same pedals as in his video....some >differences I noted at the Chicago show- he has "industrial" switches on >his >EDP controller pedal, and he hwas one of those volume pedals with the string >of lights (I don't recall the brand). pedals were these: visual volume wah (disconnected from a.c., ie: minus the lightshow & wah) tc compressor/para eq, tc 12-stage phaser guyatone wr2 boss aw2, boss analog delay z-vex seekwah, z-vex fuzzfactory >Oh, btw, it was a fantastic show...... thanks! >and yes, Bruford is pretty funny. yup..... best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 11 23:18:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA24972; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:18:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:18:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <86719841.3671e9e6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:58:30 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: gig in NYC Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"sIae83.0.wW5.9hUSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey all... quick notification I'll be at CBGB's with the TomTomClub on Saturday 12 december... looping and funky-noodling. all best, Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 06:19:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA02937; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 06:19:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 06:19:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:10:13 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: dt CD and EDP mailorder To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <36724F15.6A1C@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_yln11.0.oX.gxaSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi guys! I'm new to the list - and am really glad to have found you :-) Don't know if you know about this: Just thought I'd let you know about a new CD featuring Vernon Reid/E#/David Torn live at The Knitting Factory, NY earlier this year. Don't know how much looping is going on though as I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive... Check out www.knittingfactory.com They have a cool special offer going on at the moment too: any 3 CDs for $25 (-and no, I don't work for them!) Also, I've been looking to buy an EDP through mailorder but haven't found anyone who is willing do this. Has anyone out there in Europe ordered one of these in the States? If so, I'd be glad to hear from you. Thanks - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 12:03:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA03603; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:03:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:03:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3672A029.441E6BAC@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:56:09 +0000 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: this looper's delight References: <199812110807.DAA10271@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"FHlDS1.0.2W.7zfSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello chaps, 'Been messing with a brilliant program for the PC - Audiomulch. It's what I've ben looking for for a loooong time. Basically its a series of signal processing "contraptions", ring mod, stereo delay up to 2seconds per side, phaser, flanger, mixers spatialiser, (doppler shifter) and - wait for it REAL TIME GRANULATOR YES YES YES :))))))) So you set up the real time input icon and attatch it to say a stereo delay, (of course) but then you set up another stereo delay, and another........ you can feed the signal back into itself via a virtual mixer, perhaps also via a parametric eq or a reverb contraption so each successive delay is more reverberated than the last. and yes you could arrange it so that you can set up a loop by opening the input to one of an array of delays,set up a loop close its input thus leaving it running and then open another leaving you with the option to fade the original. If you have enough processing power you could have quite a few going. I have a Pentium 1 200mhz and can set up 2 * 8 sec independant delays (mono) with the ability to fade each in or out. I've taken audiomulch to work, (purely in the interests of research you understand) and it runs about 4 times as fast on that p2 333mhz. Thats 8 * 8second mono delays all at once. I can't stop using this thing:)) The latency is about 160 millisecs on my system which I can certainly live with but obviously even less on a P2 It's a beta version at the moment but it's surprisingly stable for that. I KNOW some of you guys are going to LOVE this thing. Naturally I've asked for longer delays and the author seems amenable check it out www.audiomulch.com No I'm not working for the guy I'm just SOOOO impressed! Gareth > Which -- if any -- of these boxes will let you play multiple loops > simultaneously? I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking > to a parallel, but unrelated loop for another section. I mean having > loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... running simultaneously in parallel, and being > able to turn off #2 for a couple passes, then bring it back in and > turn off #4, etc. You know, like an 8-track mixer with track mute > buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger multiple samples > while others are playing. >> > > ... I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking to a parallel, but > > unrelated loop for another section. I mean having loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... > > running simultaneously in parallel, and being able to turn off #2 for a couple > > passes, then bring it back in and turn off #4, etc. You know, like an From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 14:48:20 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA27506; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 14:48:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 14:48:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3672D63D.3C1D3963@magelang.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:46:53 -0800 From: Jim Coker Reply-To: jcoker@magelang.com Organization: Magelang Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Echoplex? References: <85cc8be7.3671df5a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"mQP811.0.QP6.UPiSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try erwill@hotmail.com. I think he still has one. jim Kriist@aol.com wrote: > > Im looking to buy a used echoplex, anybody? > Any leads? > > Rodrigo > Kriist@Aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 15:50:57 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA03357; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 15:50:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 15:50:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000101be260f$831af720$1c1cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Textures upon compilation Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 15:39:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"-Obw9.0.LV.0JjSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To allow everyone in on what's going on in my line of life, i have recently been released on two separate compilations. First...The Guitar Player Compilation CD is finally out with myself as the next to the last song on the CD. If anyone is interested in hearing this compilation, i am selling them for $7.00 American currency. For more information on this please e-mail me at... collinsclan@sprintmail.com Second...I have recently been put upon a cassette compilation by Digital Intersect Recordings. It features a nine minute piece off my first cassette titled "An Intuitive Definition of the Strong Force that Guides Us". This is a compilation that includes noise shapers, and ambient terrifies. This compilation is $3.00 from their company. For more information, please contact... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/1996/ I thank you all for your time...and hope that you will also visit my site, which will be updated very soon. Continue looping brothers. Sincerely, Jeff Collins http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1429/STRANGETONES.html From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 16:07:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA06155; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:07:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:07:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." 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(from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA25398; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:36:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:36:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401be25fe$09a546e0$b78232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Recording with Stereo EDP's Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:34:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"A1bdw2.0.Y-5.tnlSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just wondering if : 1) Is it possible to RECORD on both EDP's at the same time -i.e. assigning L and R tracks of my DAT - each to one of the synced EDPs? 2) Can both synced EDP's OVERDUB at the same time? i.e. split source to each EDP - i.e. processed/unprocessed signal Thanks in advance Gerry P manda@norlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 19:41:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA01204; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:41:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:41:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001401be25fe$09a546e0$b78232cc@manda.norlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:23:59 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Recording with Stereo EDP's Resent-Message-ID: <"OOpLU3.0.M7.LmmSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:34 AM -0800 12/12/98, Gerry P wrote: >Just wondering if : > >1) Is it possible to RECORD on both EDP's at the same time -i.e. assigning L >and R > tracks of my DAT - each to one of the synced EDPs? yep. >2) Can both synced EDP's OVERDUB at the same time? i.e. split source to >each > EDP - i.e. processed/unprocessed signal yep. that's the idea with using two of them sync'd together as a stereo pair. Whatever function you do on one occurs simultaneously on the other. But they are still two discrete units, so the audio paths are completely separate. alternatively, you can have two (or more) of them BrotherSync'd together for synching the loops while still having independent control over each. That's one really versatile way of getting the multitrack loop setup without compromising on user interface. It's also a great way to have multiple people looping together. Each has independent control over his own echoplex, while being able to keep loops sync'd with the others. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 19:46:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA01863; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:46:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:46:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36724F15.6A1C@stud.unibas.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 16:35:33 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: dt CD and EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"rlX42.0.k7.OmmSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 3:10 AM -0800 12/12/98, Mark Kunzmann wrote: >Also, I've been looking to buy an EDP through mailorder but haven't >found anyone who is willing do this. Has anyone out there in Europe >ordered one of these in the States? If so, I'd be glad to hear from you. I think people have successfully gotten echoplex units sent overseas from these places: Bananas at Large almost always has them: 1504 Fourth Street San Rafael, CA 94901 USA Phone (415)457-7600 Fax (415)457-9148 bananas@bananas.com http://www.bananas.com Mars music: http://www.marsmusic.com Alto Music @ (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and ask for John 8th street music in new york: http://www.8thstreet.com I think any Gibson dealer (in the states, anyway, probably not europe yet) can order one. They're working on CE approval for it, but I don't know when they expect to have that all done. I guess you could always ask them: obie@gibson.com. Although, you're in Switzerland, where they don't need CE, right? I dunno, maybe the Gibson dealers in CH can get them. Worth a try, eh? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 20:15:31 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA06292; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:15:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:15:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003f01be260b$41aff960$b78232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Re: Recording with Stereo EDP's Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:08:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"p4KkX.0.v51.TAnSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim Thanks for the response - and from what I've seen from my EDP to date, it doesn't surprise me that it is able to do the tasks I asked about - it's just a great product. Gerry P manda@norlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:46 PM Subject: Re: Recording with Stereo EDP's >At 10:34 AM -0800 12/12/98, Gerry P wrote: >>Just wondering if : >> >>1) Is it possible to RECORD on both EDP's at the same time -i.e. assigning L >>and R >> tracks of my DAT - each to one of the synced EDPs? > >yep. > >>2) Can both synced EDP's OVERDUB at the same time? i.e. split source to >>each >> EDP - i.e. processed/unprocessed signal > >yep. that's the idea with using two of them sync'd together as a stereo >pair. Whatever function you do on one occurs simultaneously on the other. >But they are still two discrete units, so the audio paths are completely >separate. > >alternatively, you can have two (or more) of them BrotherSync'd together >for synching the loops while still having independent control over each. >That's one really versatile way of getting the multitrack loop setup >without compromising on user interface. It's also a great way to have >multiple people looping together. Each has independent control over his own >echoplex, while being able to keep loops sync'd with the others. > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 12 22:29:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA26379; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:29:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:29:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: EDP price? Date: Sun, 13 Dec 98 03:26:14 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"oahmi3.0.W76.CApSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all I'n new to the list and was wondering how much an echoplex goes for in the US. I'm in the UK but I'm planning a trip th SF soon. Also, is anyone using a G-Forcs? Any comments appreciated. Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 00:24:13 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA07060; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:24:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:24:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812111842.NAA12944@echonyc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 21:09:46 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question Resent-Message-ID: <"EOm1F.0.qU1.UqqSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:42 AM -0800 12/11/98, John Neilson wrote: >Forwarded message: >> >Subject: Multiple Loops question >> > >> >Which -- if any -- of these boxes will let you play multiple loops >> >simultaneously? I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking >> >to a parallel, but unrelated loop for another section. I mean having >> >loops 1 - 2 - 3 - 4... running simultaneously in parallel, and being >> >able to turn off #2 for a couple passes, then bring it back in and >> >turn off #4, etc. You know, like an 8-track mixer with track mute >> >buttons, or like a sampler where you can trigger multiple samples >> >while others are playing. >> >> I've wondering about this as well - my dream looper would be all of the >> above w/ pitch modulation, the ability to save the loops to a SCSI >> device, Full MIDi support and onboard FX ('verb at least). It Doesn't >> seem like it's too much to ask for but until I get an advanced E.E. >> degree I'll be hoping that my EDP & sampler (an ASR10) will have >> puppies one night... >> >> jmw >> >So I gather that none of the current boxes do this? I had thought that >the Echoplex would have been the one that might have his feature, given >the big ticket price and the fact that it has the perfect foot controller >for it (unlike the old JamMan). When did ~$600 become a "big ticket price"??? Which adjectives are left for things in the $3-4k range, like kyma, eventide dsp4000, emu 4xt, k2500, etc? "really fuckin' enourmously huge ticket price?" :-) I mean, the "affordable" class of traditional samplers (emu esi-4000, yamaha A3k, etc.) or even the roland sp808, are about twice that with no options added, at a street price around $1200. And none of those have full duplex audio to let you do things like real-time overdubs and such that loopers do. they also lack high end sampler features like scsi, spdif, full effects, etc. You just ain't going to get full realtime looping capabilities plus all the features of the top samplers for $600! (or $1200, probably....). I'm curious about your thought that the echoplex footpedal is perfect for working with multitrack loops. It's fine for one loop track, but I don't see how it could easily apply to multiple tracks at the same time. I think people don't realize just how complicated the interface for fully multitracking looper would have to be. The idea of fully asynchronous multitracked loops sounds great on the surface, and everyone wants it, but how do really deal with controlling it all in realtime without being totally overwhelmed? Have you really thought this out? I don't think 7 red buttons are gonna do it! Imagine: recording input 1 onto loop 5 while multiplying loop 2 and adding something else from input 2 to it while changing the feedback of loop 4 and copying 2 bars of loop4 to loop 1 and loop 7 while changing the mix of loop 3 and doing undos on loop 6 and stuttering triggers on loop 8. Is it possible to make an elegant interface where such things can be done easily? Or do we need to grow more appendages? At the very minimal, I'd think you would want this footcontroller to have a set of switches to select which track you are currently operating on, another set of function switches, and some indicators to tell you what loop you are currently working with. That right there is quite a bit more complicated than the echoplex pedal, and to me it is still very rudimentary. What about mixing? you also want to control which tracks the inputs are going to, and control the mix of all the loop tracks and the inputs going to the output. (or outputs, since you probably want several...:-) And you'll probably want patch points to send the feedback path out to external effects, with appropriate mix control over that. So that's a whole mess of faders, level indicators, mute buttons, etc. Certainly way beyond what could be sensibly put on a footpedal or a rack, so we're talking table-top. You'll need quite a display to show you what's going on with all these different tracks (loop time for each, current function operating, multiple#'s, sync status, etc, etc...). In fact, we want to access a file system over scsi or whatever and probably deal with lots of parameters. So we'll throw in a nice graphical display with some function keys and parameter editing knob. And lots of knobs, right? We'll need feedback control for each track, and the endlessly requested pitch and time warp knobs. And some filter knobs, can't forget those. Knobs for LFO modulations too, sure. Others? heck we'll throw in a few assignable knobs for anything you want. And we'll need some set of controls to let loops interact with each other, for copies, replaces, synchronization, even modulations maybe. uh-oh, looks like our control panel all by itself will cost $2000, hope there's lots of wealthy loopers out there....;-) But we still haven't really dealt with the question, "how do you control multiple loop tracks in realtime?" Sure, our imaginary uber-looper has multiple tracks availabe. and lots of controls for them. But it's the brute-force approach, everything is laid out there, it's big. The more tracks, the more complicated it gets. When does it get too complicated and you can no longer focus on the actual music? Also, it still enforces an approach where the user is really only working on one track at a time, then switching to another to work with it. The tracks might be playing simultaneously, but not controlled simultaneously by the user. That might be ok for meticulously composing something, but we want to work in real time. So somehow, a meta interface is needed, something to put the user a notch above the detailed interface so he/she/it can truly manipulate multiple tracks simultaneously, and still remain musically creative. Any thoughts on that? Is there a genius in the house to crack this nut? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 02:08:30 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA21576; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:08:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:08:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:00:44 -0500 Subject: Straylight in NYC Message-ID: <19981213.020209.12446.4.gsg@juno.com> References: <199812120806.DAA21180@rosy.yourwebhost.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-9 From: gsg@juno.com (Geoff S Gersh) Resent-Message-ID: <"rBjoh1.0._u4.bMsSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the ambient-avant-world music improv. trio Straylight will be performing at Tonic on Wed. Dec. 16th along with the Bern Nix trio. show starts at 9pm Straylight: Geoff Gersh- elec. guitar, loops Charles Cohen- analog Buchla music easel Jason Finkelman- percussion special guest: Cynthia Oliver- movement, texts ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 02:43:48 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA28973; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:43:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:43:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Trisstine@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 02:37:40 EST To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: re:getting started Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"UJsbv.0.oo6.MwsSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Listers, 12/12 At the risk of sounding like the complete novice that I am, I'd like to get some feedback on some of the "looping" capable units that are on the market now. ( I've heard good things about the JamMan, but since it's no longer in produc- tion, it doesn't count.) Firstly, I'm really interested in live performance. So, ease of use is important. However, sound quality, and memory for loops are also right up there. The effects in my current rig run stereo, so I'd like to keep that.(The Echoplex is a mono unit, but two can be hooked together for stereo if I understand correctly?) What is an EDP? I've been seeing posts about it on the list but don't know anything about it. Are there others? What about units like the Eventides?(In all their various incarnations) I know their effects are outstanding, but what about looping capability? And, would it be "worth" it to purchase a single Eventide or to go the multiple component route, a dedicated looper(s), a harmonizer, a delay/reverb unit etc? And lastly(sorry this is so long winded!), after the purchase of an Echoplex, what is the cost to beef up it's memory to the full 200 second capacity? Thanks in advance! Sincerely, Chris Olden trisstine@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 03:59:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA03946; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:59:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:59:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 00:54:44 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: re:getting started Resent-Message-ID: <"umdJn2.0.kp.-1uSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yer mail formatting is a bit screwy there, might want to look at how you've got word wrapping or the # of columns configured in your mail program..... At 11:37 PM -0800 12/12/98, Trisstine@aol.com wrote: > also right up there. The effects in my current rig run stereo, so I'd >like to keep > that.(The Echoplex is a mono unit, but two can be hooked together for >stereo > if I understand correctly?) that is correct. >What is an EDP? I've been seeing posts about >it on > the list but don't know anything about it. EDP = Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro >Are there others? > What about units like the Eventides?(In all their various incarnations) >I know > their effects are outstanding, but what about looping capability? And, >would it > be "worth" it to purchase a single Eventide or to go the multiple >component > route, a dedicated looper(s), a harmonizer, a delay/reverb unit etc? jack of all trades, master of none? I like mixing components that are each really good at what they do, instead of one thing that does it all badly. (although, eventides probably do everything well, I havent seriously used one) > And lastly(sorry this is so long winded!), after the purchase of an >Echoplex, > what is the cost to beef up it's memory to the full 200 second capacity? four 4MB 30 pin simms, I think they are $10-15 each now. If you find them collecting dust in an old computer, they are $0. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 05:57:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA13460; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 05:57:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 05:57:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812131104.GAA16427@ulster.net> Subject: Uber Looper interface ideas Date: Sun, 13 Dec 98 05:54:31 -0500 x-sender: evening@pop.ulster.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: evening To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"omgZs.0.-D3.NpvSs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >At the very minimal, I'd think you would want this footcontroller to have a >set of switches to select which track you are currently operating on, >another set of function switches,... > >What about mixing? you also want to control which tracks the inputs are >going to, and control the mix of all the loop tracks and the inputs going >to the output. >You'll need quite a display to show you what's going on with all these >different tracks (loop time for each, current function operating, >multiple#'s, sync status, etc, etc...). In fact, we want to access a file >system over scsi or whatever and probably deal with lots of parameters. So >we'll throw in a nice graphical display with some function keys and >parameter editing knob. And lots of knobs, right? ... > >So somehow, a meta interface is needed, something to put the user a >notch above the detailed interface so he/she/it can truly manipulate >multiple tracks simultaneously, and still remain musically creative. Any >thoughts on that? Is there a genius in the house to crack this nut? Kim brings up some good points and unlike myself, he has a clue since he worked on the EDP - but as long as I'm dreaming... Here's my idea for an uberpedal: An EDP-like display on the footpedal would do well for everything except loading from a SCSI device although I think that an LCD panel would be more informative that LED. The "Next Loop" or Loop increment button and appropriate "L1-L8" on the display be enough to indicate what loop is currently controlled by the pedalboard. possibly the volume as well. The display on my sampler only shows me info about one track/instrument at a time - it works for most situations. A CV pedal or two built into the larger footpedal (ala ART's X-15 Ultrafoot) one for Volume & the other for Pitch modulation or feedback. Kim's idea's for assignable switches is great - maybe the pedalboard can be a giant PC1600! Obviously being able to control the volumes of 8 or more loops at the same time would be difficult with only two feet - there will always be limits. Maybe a row of 8 "rang style rollers, each with a mute button - might as well throw in a Global volume roller & mute button too! - and a chair so you don't fall on your ass...We will all succumb to Fripperization... As for maintaining muscial creativity...ahem...I'm still workin' on that one... jmw From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 11:37:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA18067; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:37:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:37:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <9c110aa4.3673ebb6@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:30:46 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Uber Looper interface ideas Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"oTF0m2.0.n94.xj-Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/13/98 4:59:09 AM, evening@ulster.net writes: <> One thing we should keep in mind is that when you have a bunch of loops playing, you may reach a point where you can take your hands off of your soundsource (guitar perhaps?) and start modulating things by hand, so maybe the extremely complex pedal may not be needed. Watching DT perform with B.L.U.E this past week, there were several instances where he really got things going (seemingly only with the EDP and the Lex42) and was actually reaching over and just playing knobs (DT really needs to get out more often! I learned a great deal watching him....). ......and as for Fripp, he would get up and walk off stage.... Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 12:44:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA27273; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:44:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:44:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: John Neilson Message-Id: <199812131736.MAA13468@echonyc.com> Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:36:43 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Kim Flint" at Dec 12, 98 09:09:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"1h3k13.0.DJ6.Ch_Ss"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, thanks for thinking this question through enough to point out some possible levels of "complexity cascade", but I'm not sure that it's so impossible to come up with some subset of features in an affordable box. > When did ~$600 become a "big ticket price"??? Which adjectives are left > for things in the $3-4k range, like kyma, eventide dsp4000, emu 4xt, k2500, > etc? "really fuckin' enourmously huge ticket price?" :-) I mean, the > "affordable" class of traditional samplers (emu esi-4000, yamaha A3k, etc.) > or even the roland sp808, are about twice that with no options added, at a > street price around $1200. And none of those have full duplex audio to let > you do things like real-time overdubs and such that loopers do. they also > lack high end sampler features like scsi, spdif, full effects, etc. You > just ain't going to get full realtime looping capabilities plus all the > features of the top samplers for $600! (or $1200, probably....). Well, as a guitarist, a "big ticket price" for a sound processor is one that's the same or higher than the guitar that's running through it. And more to the point, I was comparing it to the other 'looper boxes' that get discussed most frequently here, such as the Boomerang, the old JamMan (my current box), Digitech pedals, etc. As far as comparing to samplers, I think even the bottom-of-the-barrel Akai lets you sample 8 or so samples and then trigger them singly or multiply from the front panel buttons. Sync those samples together to some master loop length, move those buttons down to an EDP-style footpedal, and you have the kind of functionality I was imagining. > I'm curious about your thought that the echoplex footpedal is perfect for > working with multitrack loops. It's fine for one loop track, but I don't > see how it could easily apply to multiple tracks at the same time. I think > people don't realize just how complicated the interface for fully > multitracking looper would have to be. The idea of fully asynchronous > multitracked loops sounds great on the surface, and everyone wants it, but > how do really deal with controlling it all in realtime without being > totally overwhelmed? Have you really thought this out? I don't think 7 red > buttons are gonna do it! Imagine: recording input 1 onto loop 5 while > multiplying loop 2 and adding something else from input 2 to it while > changing the feedback of loop 4 and copying 2 bars of loop4 to loop 1 and > loop 7 while changing the mix of loop 3 and doing undos on loop 6 and > stuttering triggers on loop 8. Is it possible to make an elegant interface > where such things can be done easily? Or do we need to grow more appendages? > > At the very minimal, I'd think you would want this footcontroller to have a > set of switches to select which track you are currently operating on, > another set of function switches, and some indicators to tell you what loop > you are currently working with. That right there is quite a bit more > complicated than the echoplex pedal, and to me it is still very > rudimentary. As a JamMan user, I'm used to not having all that copying/multiplying/mixing going on, so I'll leave that to someone else to figure out. What I might imagine is this: a pedal setup the similar to the EDP's, with the individual buttons assigned to individual 'tracks' and some sort of function selection. So you'd set up a loop, but then as you tap in 'overdubs' they appear on subsequent tracks instead of merging with a single track. Maybe an LED lights up above each track with an active loop. Then, depending on the function selection, you could tap each button to mute or unmute that track, or replace it, or just delete it. > What about mixing? you also want to control which tracks the inputs are > going to, and control the mix of all the loop tracks and the inputs going > to the output. (or outputs, since you probably want several...:-) And > you'll probably want patch points to send the feedback path out to external > effects, with appropriate mix control over that. So that's a whole mess of > faders, level indicators, mute buttons, etc. Certainly way beyond what > could be sensibly put on a footpedal or a rack, so we're talking table-top. > > You'll need quite a display to show you what's going on with all these > different tracks (loop time for each, current function operating, > multiple#'s, sync status, etc, etc...). In fact, we want to access a file > system over scsi or whatever and probably deal with lots of parameters. So > we'll throw in a nice graphical display with some function keys and > parameter editing knob. And lots of knobs, right? We'll need feedback > control for each track, and the endlessly requested pitch and time warp > knobs. And some filter knobs, can't forget those. Knobs for LFO modulations > too, sure. Others? heck we'll throw in a few assignable knobs for anything > you want. And we'll need some set of controls to let loops interact with > each other, for copies, replaces, synchronization, even modulations maybe. > > uh-oh, looks like our control panel all by itself will cost $2000, hope > there's lots of wealthy loopers out there....;-) > > But we still haven't really dealt with the question, "how do you control > multiple loop tracks in realtime?" Sure, our imaginary uber-looper has > multiple tracks availabe. and lots of controls for them. But it's the > brute-force approach, everything is laid out there, it's big. The more > tracks, the more complicated it gets. When does it get too complicated and > you can no longer focus on the actual music? Also, it still enforces an > approach where the user is really only working on one track at a time, then > switching to another to work with it. The tracks might be playing > simultaneously, but not controlled simultaneously by the user. That might > be ok for meticulously composing something, but we want to work in real > time. So somehow, a meta interface is needed, something to put the user a > notch above the detailed interface so he/she/it can truly manipulate > multiple tracks simultaneously, and still remain musically creative. Any > thoughts on that? Is there a genius in the house to crack this nut? > Umm, all of that would be nice, but I guess they could wait until Rev. 2... 8^) ----------------------- Tear Along Dotted Line ----------------------- John Neilson www.mixup.com jneil@mixup.com "a site for sore ears" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 14:40:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA10106; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:40:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:40:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Another Multiple Loops question Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:31:15 -0800 Message-ID: <000601be26cf$27149a60$0b32dacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"MU17V1.0.T82._M1Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As I've got an RDS 7.6, I've wanted to have more than one loop in my process for some time, yeah, 7.6 seconds isn't enough sometimes... But in the wake of some of the "for sale" notices I've seen for more of these units, I started thinking of configurations in which they'd work together. Is there a way to sync up two units? Would it be necessary to get a third module of some kind, to act as the control process? And do we all have our holiday shopping done? Thanks. Also, any suggestions for dedications this week? Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week (noone at this writing)! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 17:45:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA02418; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:45:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:45:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3673D1BE.1783@amoeba.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 14:39:59 +0000 From: Robert Rich Reply-To: rrich@amoeba.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: EH 16 sec. for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"X8HHL.0.9B.u34Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi everyone, I am considering selling my EH 16 sec. delay. I am the original owner, serial # 0071. It has some scratches, etc. from years of use. It's been in my rig since 1981. I hear that they sometimes go for >$1500, but that seems high. $1000 seems about fair. I'll discuss serious offers with people. I have some other (non-loop related) items for sale, also. Thanks - Robert Rich ------------------------------------------------- Robert Rich glurp@amoeba.com Amoeba/Soundscape http://www.amoeba.com P.O. Box 8891 Tel: 650-938-5297 Stanford, CA 94309 USA Fax: 650-938-5397 ------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 18:09:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA06236; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:09:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:09:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <10d7c49c.36744779@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:02:17 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"678wm.0.OG1.MT4Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/13/98 3:25:54 AM Mid-Atlantic Standard Time, kflint@annihilist.com writes: << When does it get too complicated and you can no longer focus on the actual music? >> well put!..................michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 19:18:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA20505; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:18:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:18:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367458E4.9F7A68F5@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:16:36 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Re: Another Multiple Loops question References: <000601be26cf$27149a60$0b32dacf@stepheng> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"D4-Oa.0.kb4.-U5Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, Yes and Yes! I sync to my jamman or drum track, etc with the cv pulse input on the back of the time machine. I use an old Roland 626 drum machine it accepts midi sync and will put out a +5 volt pulse, I know other old stuff had cv out put and there are some midi clock to cv clock units.then you just split the cv line out for two or more time machines. I have two 7.6s going now. I have a little page with other info about uses for the other cv input on the 7.6 courtesy of Craig Anderton. http://members.xoom.com/echo17/dddl.html enjoy, jeff Stephen P. Goodman wrote: > As I've got an RDS 7.6, I've wanted to have more than one loop in my process > for some time, yeah, 7.6 seconds isn't enough sometimes... But in the wake > of some of the "for sale" notices I've seen for more of these units, I > started thinking of configurations in which they'd work together. > > Is there a way to sync up two units? Would it be necessary to get a third > module of some kind, to act as the control process? And do we all have our > holiday shopping done? > > Thanks. Also, any suggestions for dedications this week? > > Stephen Goodman - It's... The Loop Of The Week (noone at this writing)! > EarthLight Studios - http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 21:46:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA09457; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:46:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:46:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <4049684.36747524@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:17:08 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: lexicon mpx 100 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"Le3H32.0.bB1.hJ7Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i might get one of these from santa? should i? anyone own one. any opinions? =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 22:20:31 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA13685; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:20:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:20:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981213205443.007c6790@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:54:43 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: New list member! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"Rddl3.0.ta2.Ot7Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, My name's Jeff McLeod. I'm new to the looping list, and I just wanted to say hello. I'm already enjoying many of the posts that I've received, and figured that I'd tell everyone a little about myself in case I posted and you all wondered who the hell I was. I'm an improvisor and experimental musician residing in the heart of the Bible Belt--Montgomery, AL. I've toured WAY too much with a noise rock trio called bert, and am currently pursuing two musical avenues: one with an improv trio called Stull and the other being solo recording projects under the moniker of Gezoleen. My looping interest comes from being an owner of a Boomerang that I got from Mike at Boomerang Music in Dallas. Wonderful, intuitive pedal. I look forward to learning and sharing with all of you--and I'd definitely be interested in trading music if you are! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 13 23:23:49 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA22549; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:23:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:23:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981213225643.007be840@mindspring.com> X-Sender: zanga@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:56:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rik Myers Subject: Re: New list member! In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981213205443.007c6790@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"hzu7w2.0.-X4.mk8Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi, > My name's Jeff McLeod. I'm new to the looping list, and I just wanted to >say hello. Welcome aboard, Jeff! Hasta -> Dr Rico From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 01:08:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA02346; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:08:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:08:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981213234718.007bfb00@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:47:18 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: recording question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"nkUA93.0.jt7.CPATs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy again... Do any of you use a Roland VX series hard disc recorder? I was interested in getting one, but was curious about some of the mixdown capabilities. Here's the question--for anyone who can answer: Let's say you've got 8 full tracks ready to mix down, and you've got the VS-880 with the CD burning kit. Are you able to mix those 8 tracks directly to the CD--or do you have to sub-mix down to two-track stereo somehow? I'm just curious about how this gets accomplished, and if the CD burning kit is useful . . . especially since I have a CD burner in my computer. I'd like to think I'd be able to master my own CDs and then burn them up, y'know? Thanks in advance. I appreciate any help anyone can give! Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 01:59:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA08993; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:59:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:59:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:38:19 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: lexicon mpx 100 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"zuP6I1.0.fQ1.j8BTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/13/98 8:48:21 PM, PJBMHB@aol.com writes: >i might get one of these from santa? should i? anyone own one. any opinions? > Yes, I own one and it is totally fantasic. The "Lexicon Sound" for about $200US, and it is easy to use and well designed, even has stereo pathways so you can run two different stereo effects (thought they are mixed at the outs). Blows away the Alesis stuff..... Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 02:07:04 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA10343; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:07:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:07:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981214005634.007cc2c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:56:34 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Doctor Nerve's Loopmachine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ZuBvr3.0.e32.AQBTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... Here's something you all might enjoy online. This is a java applet loopmachine set up by Nick Didkovsky, guitarist of NY avant-jazz monsters Doctor Nerve. There are instructions at the site. I've come up with some intersting stuff here. Here's the URL: http://www.ingress.com/~drnerve/nerve/pages/interact/loopmachine/loopmachine .shtml Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 03:23:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA19026; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:23:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 03:23:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:14:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: echoplex faq update Resent-Message-ID: <"liJXL2.0.KR4.EYCTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com just added some new bits to the echoplex faq on the website - nextloop, loop switching, switchquantize, etc. check it out: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ.html don't forget, all ideas and contributions to the web site are welcomed! The more people get involved, the better it gets. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 05:58:41 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA30816; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 05:58:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 05:58:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3674EE8C.9F9F26D4@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 05:55:08 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Doctor Nerve's Loopmachine References: <3.0.6.32.19981214005634.007cc2c0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JcqI22.0.DO7.ZrETs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Welcome to the list, For some reason I am unable to get that loop machine to do anything. I have been there before and my java works, usually. I have downloaded the 26 events and put them into Acid by Sonic Foundry, wow what a rush! I got them jamming with David Torn and Bob Wills to a hip hop drum groove. sheesh btw, any advice from anybody on a device such as Sans Amp or the H&K Redbox for an amp simulator. Stereo would be nice. jeff Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > Hi, all... > > Here's something you all might enjoy online. This is a java applet > loopmachine set up by Nick Didkovsky, guitarist of NY avant-jazz monsters > Doctor Nerve. There are instructions at the site. I've come up with some > intersting stuff here. Here's the URL: > > http://www.ingress.com/~drnerve/nerve/pages/interact/loopmachine/loopmachine > .shtml > > Sincerely, > Jeff McLeod > __________________________________________ > This is not here-- > And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 09:46:39 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA21239; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:46:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:46:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981214083221.007c2c50@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:32:21 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Doctor Nerve's Loopmachine In-Reply-To: <3674EE8C.9F9F26D4@bellsouth.net> References: <3.0.6.32.19981214005634.007cc2c0@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"gNa-t2.0.Aw3.W5ITs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, What you might want to try to do at the loopmachine site is this: After you type in your event number and have entered the millisecond value--hit your enter key. That should trigger the event--and all subsequent entries that you make. If this doesn't work, just email Nick from the link at the site, and perhaps he can help get it straight. Doctor Nerve has a CD that has 44 of those Nerve Events on it--for random sequencing on your CD player. So many people used those pieces to make new and larger ones that the band released a CD called Transforms, which is nothing but those outside arrangements. Jeff McLeod At 05:55 AM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >Welcome to the list, > >For some reason I am unable to get that loop machine to do anything. I have been >there before and my java works, usually. I have downloaded the 26 events and put >them into Acid by Sonic Foundry, wow what a rush! I got them jamming with David >Torn and Bob Wills to a hip hop drum groove. sheesh > >btw, any advice from anybody on a device such as Sans Amp or the H&K Redbox for >an amp simulator. Stereo would be nice. > >jeff > >Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > >> Hi, all... >> >> Here's something you all might enjoy online. This is a java applet >> loopmachine set up by Nick Didkovsky, guitarist of NY avant-jazz monsters >> Doctor Nerve. There are instructions at the site. I've come up with some >> intersting stuff here. Here's the URL: >> >> http://www.ingress.com/~drnerve/nerve/pages/interact/loopmachine/loopmachine >> .shtml >> >> Sincerely, >> Jeff McLeod >> __________________________________________ >> This is not here-- >> And now is almost over... > > __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 10:12:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA29866; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:12:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:12:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Bizurko@aol.com Message-ID: <43ea14dc.36752516@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:47:50 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: recording question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 207 Resent-Message-ID: <"pGxVo2.0.vD5.eJITs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com if it is for an audio CD, you have to submix down to 2 channels. If it's an archive file, it doesn't matter... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 10:25:34 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA02475; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:25:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:25:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <10300A47F390D2118C01006008C15F6003C1C3@mail.exapps.com> From: David Kirkdorffer To: evening , Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: The UberLooper Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:56:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"xq5fY.0.m46.KUITs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Probably some law to do with diminishing returns can be quoted here -- but two thoughts hit me: 1. If someone builds an UberLooper with multiple parallel looping "stream" features -- it will be used by someone to great effect; 2. With the abstract type of looping I do, it would be very very hard to keep straight in my mind which "loop" is coming from which "stream." dk From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 10:40:21 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA09200; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:40:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:40:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:13:56 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: Re: recording question To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <36752B34.79A0@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <3.0.6.32.19981213234718.007bfb00@pop.mindspring.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"V7uMS1.0.lO7.CiITs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > > Howdy again... > Do any of you use a Roland VX series hard disc recorder? I was interested > in getting one, but was curious about some of the mixdown capabilities. > Here's the question--for anyone who can answer: > > Let's say you've got 8 full tracks ready to mix down, and you've got the > VS-880 with the CD burning kit. Are you able to mix those 8 tracks directly > to the CD--or do you have to sub-mix down to two-track stereo somehow? I'm > just curious about how this gets accomplished, and if the CD burning kit is > useful . . . especially since I have a CD burner in my computer. I'd like > to think I'd be able to master my own CDs and then burn them up, y'know? > > Thanks in advance. I appreciate any help anyone can give! > > Jeff McLeod > __________________________________________ > This is not here-- > And now is almost over... Hi Jeff, I don't actually own a VS880, but I'll try my best. Audio CDs: From what I know I can tell you that you're going to have to mixdown to 2 tracks on your 880 before you can burn an audio CD. The machine creates what is called an image file before the CD is burned. This process unfortunately takes a very long time. What's more, this image file can't be saved, i.e. you can't archive it for future CD runs. This means that every time you want to burn this material to a CD you're going to have to wait for the image file to be created :-( Archive CDs: With Rolands latest software version you can now archive your data on a CD with this kit, though this won't give you a playable audio CD. Since you have a CD burner in your computer already, you might also want to check out AirWorks' VS/Link sofware which will let you beam your VS880 data to your computer for further editing and/or burning. This, as far as I can see, is a very nice way of running things! I have never seen this in action though. Unfortunately, the company that makes the software isn't doing too well financially and I don't know about the availability, so you'll have to contact them if this interests you. Check out their site at www.airworks.com Hope to have been of some help - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 10:44:36 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA10673; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:44:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:44:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36752F3A.481B@interlog.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:31:06 -0500 From: Joel Silver X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: recording question References: <3.0.6.32.19981213234718.007bfb00@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"L_vuo2.0.C4.PpITs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > > Howdy again... > Do any of you use a Roland VX series hard disc recorder? I was interested > in getting one, but was curious about some of the mixdown capabilities. > Here's the question--for anyone who can answer: > > Let's say you've got 8 full tracks ready to mix down, and you've got the > VS-880 with the CD burning kit. Are you able to mix those 8 tracks directly > to the CD-- Hey there Jeff. I guess I'm pretty new to this list as well...My name is Joel, and I do have a VS-880. Although I don't have they CD burning kit for it, I understand that you have to bounce your mix down to 2 tracks, and they have to be tracks 7&8. This doesn't mean that your song can only have 6 trax though, there Are several workarounds. Cool, I hope that helps! jsilver jsilver@interlog.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 11:38:57 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA31485; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:38:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:38:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:23:58 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: note to Bob Sellon Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"8ojog3.0.BA6.qjJTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Bob, my modified pcm42 (centerpiece of my rig for some 10yrs...) got bonked in a flight from Omaha and the pot which controls rate for the lfo got creamed. Everything else is working ok... are these pots available?... got an idea where I could get one? sorry to take your time but I couldn't find your email address... many thanks in advance, Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 12:55:52 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA23590; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:55:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:55:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199812141726.MAA24634@user1.channel1.com> X-Sender: seahorse@user1.channel1.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Frank Gerace Subject: Re: recording question Resent-Message-ID: <"G0Anv3.0.DW3.edKTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Jeff, I use a VS880 and love it. At 11:47 PM 12/13/98 -0600, you wrote: >Howdy again... > Do any of you use a Roland VX series hard disc recorder? I was interested >in getting one, but was curious about some of the mixdown capabilities. >Here's the question--for anyone who can answer: > >Let's say you've got 8 full tracks ready to mix down, and you've got the >VS-880 with the CD burning kit. Are you able to mix those 8 tracks directly >to the CD--or do you have to sub-mix down to two-track stereo somehow? I don't have the CD burnier, but a a subscriber to the 880 list (you too can be a part-try going to http://www.virtualstudio.org/index2.html and signing up. If that doesn't work-and it might not as there have been problems with the list server-there's a big surprise,eh?) here's what I've found out. You have to mix to stereo before making a playable CD (you can archive all 8 tracks to CD as a backup copy). There's stuff at the aformentioned website that goes into depth about the mixdown from 8-2 tracks using effects. The effects in the 880 are very good. There are a lot of folks with extensive experience in the recording world on the list and no one is shy about their opinions. Check the site out and if you have any questions email me off list and I'll see if I can be any help. Frank Gerace Dreamchild From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 14:34:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA10142; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:34:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:34:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981214185720.0068fd50@net.ganymed.org> X-Sender: lorenz@net.ganymed.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:14:10 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Lorenz Haeusle Subject: jungle funk in da house Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"JgY912.0.g31.r3MTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi all you loopin' guys out there! yesterday i got the chance to see jungle funk live in dornbirn/ austria for the first time, and belive me, it was something very special to me. they also recorded their live-cd named "jungle funk" in this club (conrad sohm) in april, so it was kinda like a 'we are back, see what we got for you, folks- party! it was an amazing gig, they playd for 3 1/2 hours, 20minutes drum-solo included. doug wimbish and will calhoun also played 2 living color songs, then the whole club sang 'happy birthday' for vinx. he celebrated his bithday on his own way: on stage & singin' some traditionals, just with his voice, jamman, and djembe! after the show i had the chance to look at doug's bass & looping rig - quite impressive!!! ... a memorable night ... if you get the chance to see them, don't miss that oportunity lorenz From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 15:02:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA16631; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:02:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:02:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:44:12 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199812141944.NAA27400@mw1.texas.net> X-Sender: sharkey@mail.texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: james rhodes Subject: San Antonio Gig info for Theorem 5 Resent-Message-ID: <"coApW.0.793.qeMTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello fellow list members who might be in the area, Theorem 5 (myself- Stick/Bass/Keys; Scott Harris-Guitar; Jude Ortiz-Drums) will be appearing Tuesday evenings 10:00pm,,at Taco Land (103 W. Grayson St, 78212- (210) 223-8406. This Tuesday we expect to have a local Sax player, James Cobb (Daddy Monkey/Pseudo Buddha), and perhaps fellow listmember(loopers delight) James Sidlo on Guitar. So if you are in the area on some boring Tuesday evening,,please come by...we will be there every Tuesday,,,see ya there! Also we will be appearing at La Tuna (100 Probandt St. 78204 (210) 224-8862) on Sat. Jan, 2nd at 9:00pm if warm enough, we'll do this one outdoors. stay tuned for more dates! thanks for your time, james rhodes From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 16:37:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA02041; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:37:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:37:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36757C2F.86FFEB8C@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:59:28 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Doctor Nerve's Loopmachine References: <3.0.6.32.19981214005634.007cc2c0@pop.mindspring.com> <3.0.6.32.19981214083221.007c2c50@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"uHiYZ.0.1i6.6iNTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hit enter huh? damn I have tried many time to get that to work. I feel so ignorant. thanks jeff http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > Hi, > What you might want to try to do at the loopmachine site is this: > > After you type in your event number and have entered the millisecond > value--hit your enter key. That should trigger the event--and all > subsequent entries that you make. If this doesn't work, just email Nick > from the link at the site, and perhaps he can help get it straight. > > Doctor Nerve has a CD that has 44 of those Nerve Events on it--for random > sequencing on your CD player. So many people used those pieces to make new > and larger ones that the band released a CD called Transforms, which is > nothing but those outside arrangements. > > Jeff McLeod > > At 05:55 AM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Welcome to the list, > > > >For some reason I am unable to get that loop machine to do anything. I > have been > >there before and my java works, usually. I have downloaded the 26 events > and put > >them into Acid by Sonic Foundry, wow what a rush! I got them jamming with > David > >Torn and Bob Wills to a hip hop drum groove. sheesh > > > >btw, any advice from anybody on a device such as Sans Amp or the H&K > Redbox for > >an amp simulator. Stereo would be nice. > > > >jeff > > > >Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > > > >> Hi, all... > >> > >> Here's something you all might enjoy online. This is a java applet > >> loopmachine set up by Nick Didkovsky, guitarist of NY avant-jazz monsters > >> Doctor Nerve. There are instructions at the site. I've come up with some > >> intersting stuff here. Here's the URL: > >> > >> > http://www.ingress.com/~drnerve/nerve/pages/interact/loopmachine/loopmachine > >> .shtml > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Jeff McLeod > >> __________________________________________ > >> This is not here-- > >> And now is almost over... > > > > > __________________________________________ > This is not here-- > And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 18:08:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA17343; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:08:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:08:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981214222205.00ad6a34@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:22:05 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: jungle funk in da house Resent-Message-ID: <"HEV381.0.RE2.3-OTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com yeah saw them 2 times here in Florence, Italy. I have the CD (bad "produced" in 2 days) but the show is incredible... ciao leo At 20:14 14.12.98 +0100, you wrote: >hi all you loopin' guys out there! > >yesterday i got the chance to see jungle funk live in dornbirn/ austria for >the first time, and belive me, it was something very special to me. > >they also recorded their live-cd named "jungle funk" in this club (conrad >sohm) in april, so it was kinda like a 'we are back, see what we got for >you, folks- party! > >it was an amazing gig, they playd for 3 1/2 hours, 20minutes drum-solo >included. doug wimbish and will calhoun also played 2 living color songs, >then the whole club sang 'happy birthday' for vinx. he celebrated his >bithday on his own way: on stage & singin' some traditionals, just with his >voice, jamman, and djembe! > >after the show i had the chance to look at doug's bass & looping rig - >quite impressive!!! > >... a memorable night ... > >if you get the chance to see them, don't miss that oportunity > >lorenz > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 19:20:44 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA32265; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:20:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:20:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:56:26 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199812142356.AAA01218@mail.euroweb.hu> X-Sender: absolute@mail.datanet.hu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: adam davidovics Subject: Re: jungle funk in da house Resent-Message-ID: <"qBhTH2.0.Aa6.fLQTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HEEEEEEY! i want to check Jungle Funk live again! if you know where i could catch them, please mail to this list! others might be interested too! adam From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 20:17:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA09993; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:17:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:17:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: jungle funk in da house Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:56:34 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be27c5$c3927af0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812142356.AAA01218@mail.euroweb.hu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"AuTzN2.0.4a1.vDRTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I caught Jungle Funk when they opened up for Marcus Miller. It was a great show. I didn't get to see what kind of pedals Doug Wimbash was using. Anybody know? Jungle Funk dates from www.pollstar.com Date City State Venue ========================================================= 12/14/98 Salzburg AUT Rockhaus Salzburg 12/16/98 Zurich SWI Moods 12/18/98 Ris Orangis FRA Le Plan 12/19/98 Quimper FRA Run Ar Puns 12/21/98 Hannover GER Altro Mondo Has anybody caught the live Drum 'N Bass shows at the Izzy Bar in New York City? -----Original Message----- From: adam davidovics [mailto:absolute@mail.datanet.hu] Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 6:56 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: jungle funk in da house HEEEEEEY! i want to check Jungle Funk live again! if you know where i could catch them, please mail to this list! others might be interested too! adam From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 14 21:52:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA23686; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:52:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:52:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812150210.VAA04158@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Re: jungle funk in da house Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:09:56 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"qKlAS1.0.zO4.dJSTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I caught Jungle Funk when they opened up for Marcus Miller. It > was a great show. I didn't get to see what kind of pedals Doug > Wimbash was using. Anybody know? > holy shit.... is there one he DOESN'T use...???? he has a semi circle in front of him, of every Boss bass pedal, - choruses, overdrives, ist, octave, flange, autowah, plus digi-whammy pedal(s), on/off things for jammen, etc i always marvel at how clean his signal remains....thru 15-20 boxes... maybe cos he uses batteries??? I've had several effects sound noisier with wall-warts. andre' (east) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 09:45:54 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA09260; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:45:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:45:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ANET@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:14:03 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: lexicon mpx 100 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"3Jj0v3.0._91.T_cTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Go for it! It shines the most on recordings. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 11:16:19 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA30308; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:16:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:16:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000001be2818$a014dac0$c68232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: EDP mailorder Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:39:38 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"ncbnP2.0.Gq5.MGeTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kim: I am ready to order a second EDP but 8th Street Music, who I normally deal with, doesn't think they can get any in - they are under the impression that Oberheim is no longer shipping. Can you clarify the situation? Thanks Gerry P manda@norlink.net -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:48 PM Subject: Re: dt CD and EDP mailorder >At 3:10 AM -0800 12/12/98, Mark Kunzmann wrote: > >>Also, I've been looking to buy an EDP through mailorder but haven't >>found anyone who is willing do this. Has anyone out there in Europe >>ordered one of these in the States? If so, I'd be glad to hear from you. > > >I think people have successfully gotten echoplex units sent overseas from >these places: > >Bananas at Large almost always has them: >1504 Fourth Street >San Rafael, CA 94901 >USA >Phone (415)457-7600 >Fax (415)457-9148 >bananas@bananas.com >http://www.bananas.com > >Mars music: >http://www.marsmusic.com > >Alto Music @ (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and ask for John > >8th street music in new york: >http://www.8thstreet.com > > >I think any Gibson dealer (in the states, anyway, probably not europe yet) >can order one. They're working on CE approval for it, but I don't know when >they expect to have that all done. I guess you could always ask them: >obie@gibson.com. Although, you're in Switzerland, where they don't need CE, >right? I dunno, maybe the Gibson dealers in CH can get them. Worth a try, >eh? > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 13:32:20 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA22944; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:32:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:32:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3676A48F.3D89@voicenet.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:03:59 -0500 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerry P CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP mailorder References: <000001be2818$a014dac0$c68232cc@manda.norlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"m3J1q.0.xY4.3MgTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >I think people have successfully gotten echoplex units sent overseas from > >these places: > >8th street music in new york: > >http://www.8thstreet.com Gerry P wrote: > I am ready to order a second EDP but 8th Street Music, who I normally deal > with, doesn't think they can get any in - they are under the impression that > Oberheim is no longer shipping. > Can you clarify the situation? Well for one thing 8th st music is in Phila Pa. , not NYC. It's my "local" store so I know most of the people and what's going on. According to one of the guys I tend to trust, 8th st has *always* had trouble ordering stuff form Oberheim. Things not being sent on time or not at all is a common theme. Add to that this time of year they are less "helpful" than usual and even have some new employees in to handle the rush. I was there last week and was amazed at the dip in service and the tension floating around. While there's no real excuse for this it is a reality so you might be hearing the truth (I wouldn't doubt it) or some permutation thereof. My advice is call and ask for Randy Segal (If you haven't talked to him already). He's been there for years and is the head of the Keyboard Dept and is basically a good guy. At least he'll shoot straight with you. If he says they can't get them in then I wouldn't hold your breath for them to miraculously appear. I bought my EPD(used) and pedal(new) from 8th st and they do carry and try to stock them. I also know they tried to place and order for me a while ago and weren't able to get the stuff form Gibson/Oberheim. Good luck! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 13:33:19 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA23115; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:33:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:33:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: EARrel@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:04:06 EST To: Loopers-delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: inquiry Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.7 for Mac sub 3 Resent-Message-ID: <"cBVSr2.0.OW4.VLgTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com dear Looper's Delight staff, i am interested in finding a jam man or Oberheim Echoplex. What are your deals du jour? thanks for your info Theo Bleckmann From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 15:58:01 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA12555; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:58:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:58:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001be2818$a014dac0$c68232cc@manda.norlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:00:41 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"YBcfq.0.cw.J0iTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Kim: > >I am ready to order a second EDP but 8th Street Music, who I normally deal >with, doesn't think they can get any in - they are under the impression that >Oberheim is no longer shipping. > >Can you clarify the situation? sure, they're wrong (deja vu! didn't we do this a month ago, precipitating the "group buy"?). According to the big kahuna at the Oberheim division (who is now the big kahuna for the electar division too) any gibson dealer can order one, from their gibson rep or the inside sales line at gibson. echoplexes are being shipped without any trouble, and have been for a long time. Maybe these guys are confused by recent division shuffling at Gibson? although other dealers don't seem to have that problem. go somewhere else. according to gibson, its actually much easier to get echoplexes now than it used to be. You used to have to find an actual Oberheim dealer, since they had oberheim's dealer network separate from the rest of gibson's for some reason. There weren't very many OB dealers, so that wasn't so great. Now they have all the dealers combined, so any gibson dealer can get echoplices. I think they did kill off all the other Oberheim products, with the echoplex actually now being handled by the "electar" division (which also includes trace elliot and maestro, I think). But from the outside it looks the same, you can still call Oberheim and get an OB guy on the phone. In fact, call them to find a good dealer: 877-OBERHEIM (877-623-7434) or obie@gibson.com. they're quite helpful. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 16:03:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA13496; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:03:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:03:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:09:57 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, EARrel@aol.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: inquiry Resent-Message-ID: <"1uP1X.0.zB1.77iTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:04 AM -0800 12/15/98, EARrel@aol.com wrote: >dear Looper's Delight staff, >i am interested in finding a jam man or Oberheim Echoplex. What are your >deals du jour? >thanks for your info >Theo Bleckmann uh, this is an internet mailing list, not a store. However, I'll be happy to sell you one of my echoplexes for $10,000. you'll probably get a better deal from a gibson dealer (or maybe another list member), buy mine will have better karma. :-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 16:12:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA15115; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:12:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:12:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812152041.PAA24358@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Subject: Gtr Oblq Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:41:17 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"yhaaD1.0.lO2.SbiTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey anyone gonna be at the show(s) fri??? if not , as always.. join us audience members on the web!!! http://www.knittingfactory.com here's a cool pg the knit has up about the CD - just stumbled 'cross it http://www.knittingfactory.com/Discs/KFR/Catalog/CDs/Gtroblq.html it's even got a snippet of a track from the CD see ya andre' From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 16:56:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA22300; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:56:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:56:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: "'Jeff Duke'" Cc: Subject: LOTW... Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:27:41 -0800 Message-ID: <000601be2871$c04c6480$dd22dacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <367640CB.52E44F3A@bellsouth.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"ZWV7r2.0.-J4.SGjTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I hadn't caught Norman Fell's name in alt.obituaries this week, strange... And of course Lawton Chiles is a no-go, as he's a political figure, and thus has lots of people to mourn HIS passing by default. I've decided and be seasonal without being overly definable. :) The next three LOTW items are just that, seasonal. Sort of all-enclosing. You figure it out. :) Soon, my piece for this year's Christmas as well, though not until the 21st or so. Keep tuned! Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 17:35:04 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA28891; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:35:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:35:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3676A48F.3D89@voicenet.com> References: <000001be2818$a014dac0$c68232cc@manda.norlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:19:06 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"v0brJ3.0.6T3.F-iTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Well for one thing 8th st music is in Phila Pa. , not NYC. It's my >"local" store so I know most of the people and what's going on. >According to one of the guys I tend to trust, 8th st has *always* had >trouble ordering stuff form Oberheim. Things not being sent on time or >not at all is a common theme. Oberheim was really screwed up for a long time, but for the past year they've been quite good. those guys did a good job of turning things around in a short time. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 21:14:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA02302; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:14:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:14:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981215232825.16610.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:28:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Randy Jones Subject: knittingfactory To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"8q5Ny1.0.5w7.XFnTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, Looking to get that Torn/Reid CD from www.knittingfactory.com any others w/ loopers worth getting from them? They have a 3 for 25 I can't pass up. thanks Randy Jones _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 22:04:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA11239; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:04:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:04:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003801be289c$066a6dc0$0a1cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: knittingfactory Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:30:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"bwZCV1.0.RP1.JknTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Four words for you..."The Sign of Four". Derek Bailey, Pat Metheny, Greg Bendian, Paul Wertico. Totally insane brilliant improvisations. Jeff Collins http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1429/STRANGETONES.html -----Original Message----- From: Randy Jones To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 9:15 PM Subject: knittingfactory >Hi, > >Looking to get that Torn/Reid CD from www.knittingfactory.com > >any others w/ loopers worth getting from them? They have a 3 for 25 I >can't pass up. > >thanks >Randy Jones >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 15 22:52:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA18637; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:52:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:52:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:23:38 -0500 (EST) From: David Talento X-Sender: legion@unix01 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: EDP mailorder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"BzaZ12.0.JV3.TToTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Kim Flint wrote: > >According to one of the guys I tend to trust, 8th st has *always* had > >trouble ordering stuff form Oberheim. Things not being sent on time or > >not at all is a common theme. > > Oberheim was really screwed up for a long time, but for the past year > they've been quite good. those guys did a good job of turning things around > in a short time. I will gracefullly point out I haven't had any dealings with Oberheim in the past year (via 8th st or otherwise). They certainly did have problems but quite frankly if Kim Flint says they're straightened out I'd say they are. If a dealer says they can't (or won't) be able to get an EDP then by all means go to another! And EPD is (IMO) Far better than the vintage units around at almost the same price. Hit up the LD wed page and do the input/compression mods and/or get the new ROM and you'll be cooking! d- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. Visit it at: Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/weird.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 00:16:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA31194; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:16:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:16:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <51f4aa00.36773bcb@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:49:15 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EDP mailorder.........read second Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Casablanca - Windows sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"RWLe03.0.s-6.TvpTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/15/98 10:54:01 PM EST, legion@voicenet.com writes: > > And EPD is (IMO) Far better than the vintage units around at almost the > same price. Hit up the LD wed page and do the input/compression mods > and/or get the new ROM and you'll be cooking! > > d- > oops, i meant to say, too many acronyms rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 00:12:38 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA30560; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:12:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:12:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981216042217.0070fe04@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:22:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"obD2v.0.Dh5.YLpTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:23 PM 12/15/98 -0500, David Talento wrote: > >And EPD is (IMO) Far better than the vintage units around at almost the >same price. Hit up the LD wed page and do the input/compression mods >and/or get the new ROM and you'll be cooking! those mods and the new software roms are standard in the units made for about the past year, no need for any updatin'. yer cookin right outta the box. oh, wait they changed the power supply so it doesn't hardly get warm anymore. I guess you'll be chillin'. ;-) kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com ATI Research 408-752-9284 http://www.chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 00:27:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA00101; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:27:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:27:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:47:37 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EDP mailorder Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Casablanca - Windows sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"x2PtA.0.Nx6.qtpTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/15/98 10:54:01 PM EST, legion@voicenet.com writes: > > And EPD is (IMO) Far better than the vintage units around at almost the > same price. Hit up the LD wed page and do the input/compression mods > and/or get the new ROM and you'll be cooking! > > d- woah there a little too many ana what does it all mean oh, what are the input/compression mods? are there more mods? stereo? rodrigo Kriist@Aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 07:33:50 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA16719; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 07:33:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 07:33:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <6d9f3ba8.3677a3d0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 07:13:04 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Resent-Message-ID: <"9b00V1.0.da3.JEwTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hey'all: gtr obliq will perform at knitting factory, leonard st, ny @ 8pm & 11pm, friday 12/18/98. maybe seeya, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 08:08:25 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA20275; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:08:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:08:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981216075944.007ca8e0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: zanga@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 07:59:44 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rik Myers Subject: Re: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 In-Reply-To: <6d9f3ba8.3677a3d0@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"n3ePF2.0.sd4.ttwTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >gtr obliq will perform at >knitting factory, leonard st, ny >@ >8pm & 11pm, friday 12/18/98. > >maybe seeya, >dt Love to...dang I wish I lived in nuyawk. Don't reckon you all mosey down to Miami now and then? Hasta -> Rico From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 08:59:00 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA26551; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:59:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:59:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:35:51 +0900 (JST) X-Sender: morgan@popmail.gol.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: LoopersDelight-list From: Morgan Fisher Subject: A better Vortex footswitch? Resent-Message-ID: <"iho1z3.0.4h5.SRxTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear fellow loopers. I am about to buy a used Lexicon Vortex. It has no footswitch (it usually comes with a dual footswitch as standard). I hear that Lexicon still make this switch, but that it is a bit fragile and prone to breaking. I am wondering if another company is making a better, sturdier switch which would be compatible. I'd be grateful for any suggestions! Thank you, Morgan Fisher >From Morgan Fisher, Tokyo, Japan Email address: morgan@gol.com Second email address: Morgan_Fisher@ringo.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 09:04:00 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA27279; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:04:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:04:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <016101be28fb$85708a00$8498adce@satellite> Reply-To: "Tom Lambrecht" From: "Tom Lambrecht" To: Subject: Re: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 07:53:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"YvtT43.0.R66.RexTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Original Message----- From: Texture444@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 6:41 AM Subject: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 >hey'all: >gtr obliq will perform at >knitting factory, leonard st, ny >@ >8pm & 11pm, friday 12/18/98. > >maybe seeya, >dt > > WISH . . . but it's a long drive from St. Louis esp. just before the holiday . . . but I'll be streaming it and I ordered the KNF Gtr Oblq CD (and others) yesterday all you ECoasters . . . ENJOY . . . drone on~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 11:18:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA19507; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:18:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:18:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE2915.C5DA9080.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: EDP mailorder Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 07:41:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"UsbFE.0.8h3.ZbzTs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > according to gibson, its actually much easier > to get echoplexes now than it used to be. in the US, that is. Any information on Europe and the infamous CE stamp? * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music: http://listen.to/michaelpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 13:40:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05341; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:40:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:40:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003801be2920$1a701d40$a61bbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:15:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"ixcZ_2.0.uo6.ra_Ts"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mr. Torn, Will the video be turned on this time so all us loopers and experimenters can enjoy the festivities? I wish that could've happened the last show. Sincerely, Jeff Collins -----Original Message----- From: Texture444@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 7:34 AM Subject: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 >hey'all: >gtr obliq will perform at >knitting factory, leonard st, ny >@ >8pm & 11pm, friday 12/18/98. > >maybe seeya, >dt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 16:21:32 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA14604; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:21:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:21:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:11:35 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199812162111.PAA00666@mw4.texas.net> X-Sender: sharkey@mail.texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: james rhodes Subject: San Antonio area radio broadcast of Theorem 5 Resent-Message-ID: <"6Yb6A1.0.jN2.p62Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hello any list members in the area, there will be a a portion of a 12/18/98 Theorem 5 performance broadcast this evening on KSYM 90.1 FM this is from a gig at Taco Land, and features Stick, Drums, Guitar, and Sax. the broadcast will begin between 1:00-1:30 am. there will also be a live radio broadcast on 90.1 KSYM,,,sometime in late Jan. 99...stay tuned thanks for your time, james rhodes From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 21:05:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA05378; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:05:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:05:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981216220445.00f38610@brooknorth.com> X-Sender: howard@brooknorth.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:04:45 -0400 To: "Gerry P" From: Howard Harawitz Subject: Re: EDP mailorder Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com In-Reply-To: <000001be2818$a014dac0$c68232cc@manda.norlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"3JkAI.0.bh.jL6Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Gerry, I ordered mine from Alto music (somewhere in New York State) a couple of months ago, and received it here in Nova Scotia less than two weeks after I telephoned my order. The price was right too! Something like US$560 plus $100 for the pedal. And they didn't charge my credit card until the product was shipped. A bunch of other folks on this list did the same thing and apparently there were no complaints. If you are interested, just call Alto Music at (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and ask for John. Hope this helps. Regards, Howard At 10:39 AM 12/15/98 -0000, you wrote: >Kim: > >I am ready to order a second EDP but 8th Street Music, who I normally deal >with, doesn't think they can get any in - they are under the impression that >Oberheim is no longer shipping. > >Can you clarify the situation? > >Thanks >Gerry P >manda@norlink.net > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kim Flint >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Saturday, December 12, 1998 11:48 PM >Subject: Re: dt CD and EDP mailorder > > >>At 3:10 AM -0800 12/12/98, Mark Kunzmann wrote: >> >>>Also, I've been looking to buy an EDP through mailorder but haven't >>>found anyone who is willing do this. Has anyone out there in Europe >>>ordered one of these in the States? If so, I'd be glad to hear from you. >> >> >>I think people have successfully gotten echoplex units sent overseas from >>these places: >> >>Bananas at Large almost always has them: >>1504 Fourth Street >>San Rafael, CA 94901 >>USA >>Phone (415)457-7600 >>Fax (415)457-9148 >>bananas@bananas.com >>http://www.bananas.com >> >>Mars music: >>http://www.marsmusic.com >> >>Alto Music @ (914) 692-6922 10-6pm Monday through Saturday and ask for John >> >>8th street music in new york: >>http://www.8thstreet.com >> >> >>I think any Gibson dealer (in the states, anyway, probably not europe yet) >>can order one. They're working on CE approval for it, but I don't know when >>they expect to have that all done. I guess you could always ask them: >>obie@gibson.com. Although, you're in Switzerland, where they don't need CE, >>right? I dunno, maybe the Gibson dealers in CH can get them. Worth a try, >>eh? >> >>kim >> >>______________________________________________________________________ >>Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >>kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >>http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >> >> >> > > ========================================================== Howard Harawitz howard@brooknorth.com ========================================================== Brooklyn North Software Works Inc. Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Telephone: 1-902-423-0257 ========================================================== Check the Halifax Harbor Cam: http://www.brooknorth.com/camsite/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 21:19:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA10627; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:19:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:19:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Texture444@aol.com Message-ID: <6bc0dd1d.3678650e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:57:34 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: knittingfactorygig: 12/18 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 161 Resent-Message-ID: <"aQe21.0.A_1.bY6Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com zanga@mindspring.com scribbled: >Don't reckon you all mosey down to >Miami now and then? ummmm: not these days, no. where d'yall play? (don't wanna jam the LD bandwidth on this, so: private reply is probly best for the rest). eeek, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 16 23:03:31 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA22478; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:03:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 23:03:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE2947.4A5D5500@ds115.ix.netcom.com> From: John Celano To: "Loopers Delight (E-mail)" Subject: EDP mods Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 22:56:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"3owMi3.0.hl4.738Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've picked up an used EDP. It has version 3.2 and I maxed out the = ram. Which modifications suggested at the FAQ should I consider doing. Thanks in advance From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 03:57:55 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA09832; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 03:57:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 03:57:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BE2947.4A5D5500@ds115.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 00:46:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: EDP mods Resent-Message-ID: <"zXpFk.0.R31._HCUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I've picked up an used EDP. It has version 3.2 and I maxed >out the ram. Which modifications suggested at the FAQ >should I consider doing. 1. get the new software update from Oberheim 2. make sure pin 5 of U12 is cut, which fixes a thermal problem. see this page for details and a diagram: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ6.html#Anchor-17304 3. do the gain stage modification: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ6.html#Anchor-47383 If you are feeling motivated, you could also replace the two 7805 5V regulators at the back of the unit with one Power Trends PT5101N 5V switching regulator. You can get them from digikey for about $15 I think. The new regulator can power both of the power rails that the old ones were on, and doesn't need the heatsink. This reduces the heat generated by the unit by a LOT. (new units have this....) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 04:32:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA23398; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:32:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 04:32:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BE2915.C5DA9080.mpeters@csi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:25:50 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: AW: EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"hMGuZ3.0.Bz4.BtCUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:41 PM -0800 12/15/98, Michael Peters wrote: >> according to gibson, its actually much easier >> to get echoplexes now than it used to be. > >in the US, that is. Any information on Europe and the infamous CE stamp? > they're working on it now. claim is they will have it in february. Unless you really like the warm, safe feeling that the beautiful CE logo gives, you could always buy in some other country by mailorder and have it shipped to you. Seems like everyone's doing that these days.... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 11:23:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA23989; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:23:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:23:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <8680b78b.36792d95@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:13:09 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Roland-Looper? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"Yin6I1.0.Iw4.7sIUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A while back (couple years) I heard about someone in the UK who did a mod for the Rolad SDE3000 (out of the box a 4second delay) which turned it into a big fat looper... anyone have any contact info for this person? I've got a sed3000 in good working order... always looking for another looper I am... I'd be real thankful. you can email me private so's not to take up bandwidth... merry christmas and other seasonal greetings. Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 11:52:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA03747; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:52:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:52:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812171635.IAA35166@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Echoplex group buy order status Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 10:37:28 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"_NFCk1.0.ru7.mHJUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just ordered an EDP from Alto Music, and John asked me to pass on the information that current orders won't be filled until probably the middle of January, as they're waiting on units from Oberheim, who are waiting on circuit boards. So, if you're waiting, it'll probably be a little while longer. Loop on, Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 14:02:01 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA29488; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:02:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:02:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812171848.KAA15046@scv1.apple.com> Subject: Live Loopage In Austin Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 12:49:56 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"9ijmO2.0.pG6.4CLUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Futura, an improvisational trio (guitar, bass, DJ), will be playing Austin, Texas, on Saturday, the 19th of December, at Mojo's Daily Grind (2714 Guadalupe), between 9PM and 2AM Sunday morning. Admission is free. Travis Hartnett Futura From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 16:37:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA00947; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:37:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:37:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: tap tempo drum machines Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:22:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"OmoI23.0.Vj6.mONUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com does anyone use a tap tempo drum machine with their rig. I use a boss dr 660 to slave my 2 jammen but then my band is restiricted to jamming within a certian time from the beginning, i would like to be able to set the clock in mid jam by tapping a drum machine just as i would a jamman but be in exact clock. this would allow for the perfect hybrid of traditional band jams (preferred by most) and the looping jams (preferred by folks like us) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 17:19:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA18708; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:19:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:19:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981217220359.2475.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:03:59 -0800 (PST) From: Bret Subject: LD Volume 2 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"A8M481.0.XN3.y1OUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Well, Since I see no other posts about this I am wondering if I am the first on the block to recieve the Loopers Delight Volume 2 CD. After 2 listenings, first impression is that it is wonderful. The artwork is beautiful, the audio is a musical adventure. The exploration of sounds, the broad acceptance of what is music, the willingness to try something different or peculier is clearly shown on this volume. The flow from title to title is remarkable. Whoever sequenced these 22 compositions should get an award. I don't see how music so varied can flow and connect as well as it does. The audio quality is excellant, as well. I get the feeling that we could all get in one room together and just start playing, and create a joyous noise (or a hell of a noise) without saying a word. It is great to hear samples of the music that you make. I want to hear more. I want to meet more of you folks. We really must have a loopers convention. May I suggest Boulder, CO ;-) Any seconds to that? Bryan, Edwin? Many thanks to Matt and Jeff for the organizing and legwork to pull this CD together. Thanks to Peter Pauley for the cover/liner art. Thanks to each of you contributing to LD Volume 2. I am proud of all of you, and grateful to be able to participate with you on this project. bret _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 17:19:41 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA18772; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:19:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:19:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3679825C.B6775DCF@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:14:53 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: tap tempo drum machines References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DFs_h1.0.zg3.b4OUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi Todd, You can slave your drum machine to your jamen. Then when you tap in your loop, at the second tap the drumbox will start playing in sync. You may have to adjust your drum boxs midi assignment. But no I have not seen tap tempo drum machine, if you find one let me know! peace, jeff http://members.xoom.com/echo17/tbl.html Todd Quincy wrote: > does anyone use a tap tempo drum machine with their rig. I use a boss dr > 660 to slave my 2 jammen but then my band is restiricted to jamming > within a certian time from the beginning, i would like to be able to set > the clock in mid jam by tapping a drum machine just as i would a jamman > but be in exact clock. this would allow for the perfect hybrid of > traditional band jams (preferred by most) and the looping jams > (preferred by folks like us) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 17:43:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA29297; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:43:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:43:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <3b0f171d.36798710@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:34:56 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 249 Resent-Message-ID: <"CfWR32.0.ZG6.LSOUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey, yeah, Bret...we're impressed too! Some really beautiful music. Much thanks to Matt. The mastering sounds really good. Best, the LoOpdOctOrs From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 17:45:37 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA30031; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:45:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:45:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RBEN549@aol.com Message-ID: <79e343b8.367987e4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:38:28 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: EDP mailorder Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"md1CL3.0.LY6.kUOUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I ordered mine from Alto at the same time as the rest of the group. Per John at Alto, I missed the cutoff on the initial 12-13 units he received orders from. I'm still waiting patiently. I hope it will be here soon though. My wife is afraid I may become the GRINCH for Christmas. Ben From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 17:55:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA02032; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:55:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:55:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:49:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: tap tempo drum machines Resent-Message-ID: <"86Oe12.0.lS7.KdOUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Hi Todd, >You can slave your drum machine to your jamen. Then when you tap in your >loop, at the second tap the drumbox will start playing in sync. You may have >to adjust your drum boxs midi assignment. > But no I have not seen tap tempo drum machine, if you find one let me know! > I have a Roland MC-303 drumbox/synth/sequencer/instAntTeKKnoRaveBoxxx that has a tap tempo, and have used it to control the j-man. I think Rolands new drumbox in their "GrooveBox" line has this as well. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 18:17:55 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA11170; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:17:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 18:17:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3679877D.AF1B8CD5@Buddhas.de> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:36:46 +0100 Reply-To: Manfred@Buddhas.de Organization: The Buddhas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [de]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Bob Sellon?!? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 320024095934-0001@t-online.de From: Manfred_Bohnhoff@t-online.de (Manfred Bohnhoff) Resent-Message-ID: <"mOURu1.0.vk1.gwOUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi LD, has anybody got a hint on how to contact Bob Sellon of Lexicon? I read about his JamMan Mods but was unable to reach him under either bsellon@lexicon.com or sellon@medione.com. Manfred From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 21:23:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA24099; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:23:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:23:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: A better Vortex footswitch? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 02:20:56 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"PPZ5l3.0.fA5.lgRUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Dear fellow loopers. > >I am about to buy a used Lexicon Vortex. It has no footswitch (it usually >comes with a dual footswitch as standard). I hear that Lexicon still make >this switch, but that it is a bit fragile and prone to breaking. I am >wondering if another company is making a better, sturdier switch which >would be compatible. I'd be grateful for any suggestions! Sorry I don't have suggestions for this switch but I would strongly recconmend that you get a controller pedal as well. This really brings a vortex to life. You can control any parameter with it and sweep through a morph with it. Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 22:56:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA30226; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:56:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:56:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 03:56:30 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"GlyIA1.0.Ap6.L4TUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >A while back (couple years) I heard about someone in the UK who did a mod for >the Rolad SDE3000 (out of the box a 4second delay) which turned it into a big >fat looper... >anyone have any contact info for this person? I've got a sed3000 in good >working order... always looking for another looper I am... >I'd be real thankful. you can email me private so's not to take up >bandwidth... >merry christmas and other seasonal greetings. >Robby Aceto I'm in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 17 23:51:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA20346; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:51:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:51:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812180447.UAA12166@toucan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:48:42 -0800 Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 From: "Matt and Kristy McCabe" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"esa482.0.PP4.gtTUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Since I see no other posts about this I am wondering if I am the first >on the block to recieve the Loopers Delight Volume 2 CD. Maybe some of the non-contributors would care to share their thoughts about the project? What if I bribe you with the opportunity to have your comments published on the LD CD V2 web page. Tempting? Matt __________________________________ Matthew F. McCabe Finley Sound Design http://www.finleysound.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 00:16:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA30857; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:16:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:16:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3679E3D9.C7C57A45@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:10:51 -0800 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"nJCuX.0.qm6.aDUUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com you wrote: > I'm in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy > who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it > sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. martin, this sound very cool indeed. please forward any details you have. thanks lance g. baumhas@earthlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 00:18:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA31471; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:18:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:18:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <51f97210.3679e2ab@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 00:05:47 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"EXgzF1.0.wn6.hDUUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com matt, i am still waiting for my copy.......i need no bribes.........although, bribes are nice.......michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 02:38:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA18896; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:38:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:38:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: jfa@shell11.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812171635.IAA35166@scv2.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 23:35:48 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: John Altman Subject: Re: Echoplex group buy order status Resent-Message-ID: <"AeakD.0.z74.uKWUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:37 AM -0600 12/17/98, Travis Hartnett wrote: >I just ordered an EDP from Alto Music, and John asked me to pass on the >information that current orders won't be filled until probably the middle >of January, as they're waiting on units from Oberheim, who are waiting on >circuit boards. So, if you're waiting, it'll probably be a little while >longer. Does this apply to the foot pedals also? I got my EDP last month, but am still waiting for the pedal. Anyone else have this problem? John (wishing he had three hands) From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 04:39:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA01704; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:39:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:39:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <85d9de5e.367a1fcd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 04:26:37 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Casablanca - Windows sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"yJT7l3.0.b97.O-XUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/17/98 10:58:12 PM EST, martins@pwdu.demon.co.uk writes: > m in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy > who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it > sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. > > > > Martin Shellard do tell rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 05:41:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA26065; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:41:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:41:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <014e01be2a73$44291020$c5b854ce@mark.asisoftware.com> From: Mark@asisoftware.com (Mark Kata) To: , "Loopers Delight" Subject: Re: Bob Sellon?!? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 05:43:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Dsqhk2.0.Sg5.SzYUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Here's the URL to his website: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/8541/ Mark Kata Mark@asisoftware.com -----Original Message----- From: Manfred Bohnhoff To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 6:20 PM Subject: Bob Sellon?!? >Hi LD, > >has anybody got a hint on how to contact Bob Sellon of Lexicon? >I read about his JamMan Mods but was unable to reach him under either >bsellon@lexicon.com or sellon@medione.com. > >Manfred > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 08:55:47 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA05915; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:55:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:55:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981218134820.00737460@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:48:20 +0100 To: From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: demo mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"x_cQZ.0.Hj.QqbUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi guys I've just uploaded a little demo mp3 files containing some short examples of my sampling and sequencing work. The file is CAVALLOdemo.mp3 (1.7M) on the ftp.teklab.com site. directory: Incoming. Used gear : a PC with some software, A3000 sampler, electric bass 5 string. Variuos styles of drum'n bass, trip hop, etc. ciao leo PS any comments and suggestion are welcome! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 08:57:29 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA06556; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:57:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:57:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <367A5E26.6618@mdbs.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:52:38 -0500 From: "Dennis W. Leas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"CAC_E.0.ta.9pbUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Martin Shellard wrote: > > I'm in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy > who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it > sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. Please, mail me the details! Perhaps you should just post a message to the list. There's probably enough interest. - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 09:28:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA19223; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:28:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:28:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: tap tempo drum machines Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:11:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"NJhaR.0.Z43.CAcUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i've tried this and it works when using 1 jammam, but how would sync additional jammen. currently i send clock form the dr660 to a midiman 1 in 4 out & then to the jammen & everything is locked tight. > -----Original Message----- > From: improv@peak.org [SMTP:improv@peak.org] > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 5:49 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: tap tempo drum machines > > >Hi Todd, > >You can slave your drum machine to your jamen. Then when you tap in > your > >loop, at the second tap the drumbox will start playing in sync. You > may have > >to adjust your drum boxs midi assignment. > > But no I have not seen tap tempo drum machine, if you find one let > me know! > > > I have a Roland MC-303 drumbox/synth/sequencer/instAntTeKKnoRaveBoxxx > that > has a tap tempo, and have used it to control the j-man. I think > Rolands new > drumbox in their "GrooveBox" line has this as well. > > ________________________________________________________ > Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ > > "...there will come a day when you won't have to use > gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in > your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper > type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em > together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em > together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." > -Sun Ra > ________________________________________________________ > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 09:47:48 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA27150; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:47:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:47:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19981217220359.2475.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:06:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 Resent-Message-ID: <"jRuDl.0.A35.uScUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I get the feeling that we could all get in one room together and just >start playing, and create a joyous noise (or a hell of a noise) >without saying a word. It is great to hear samples of the music that >you make. I want to hear more. I want to meet more of you folks. >We really must have a loopers convention. May I suggest Boulder, CO >;-) >Any seconds to that? Bryan, Edwin? Well, I have been doing a show of looping at Penny Lane here in Boulder every few months and it would be very cool to get a big jam going of this sort, so not only am I open to this, I also have a possible venue. The only real restriction is that volume cannot be hugely loud. Getting here is another question! Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 10:25:05 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA09874; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:25:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:25:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: jadirusso@statestreet.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:15:08 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: Problem with Oberheim not shipping EDP? MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="cc:Mail" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="cc:Mail" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hHNi33.0.BX1.W6dUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, I have recently been looking around trying to purchase a new EDP but have found that everywhere is telling me that there is a problem at Gibson/Oberheim and god only knows when they will be shipping the EDP again. Has anyone else run into this problem? Anyone know what the delay is? By the way I found the Looper's delight web page and mailing list archives very helpful in my research of looping tools. You guys have been very helpful in my decision to get an EDP to use for textures and more in my live improvisations. Thanks, Joe DiRusso From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 11:29:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA03244; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:29:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:29:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981218161641.18076.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: H IP Subject: Re: Problem with Oberheim not shipping EDP? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"ktNaN3.0.Tb7.A-dUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com EDP is an excellent tool for live (real time looping). I don't there is anything come close. However, if you consider to do more processing on your loop in a studio or home, try to use a Audio sequencer, I used Emagic Logic Audio on Mac and you can produce much more complex stuff with it. Having said that I still enjoy very much on using EDP to capture my spontaneous ideas and get everything done without looking at a computer monitor. I've looked around for 3 months for my first used EDP and I've waited more than half a year to get my 2nd new EDP. However, it's 100% worth to wait. Hip ---jadirusso@statestreet.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I have recently been looking around trying to purchase a new EDP > but have found that everywhere is telling me that there is a > problem at Gibson/Oberheim and god only knows when they will be > shipping the EDP again. Has anyone else run into this problem? > Anyone know what the delay is? > By the way I found the Looper's delight web page and mailing > list archives very helpful in my research of looping tools. You > guys have been very helpful in my decision to get an EDP to use for > textures and more in my live improvisations. > > > Thanks, > Joe DiRusso > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 11:37:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA06493; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:37:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:37:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <3918f801.367a80de@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:20:46 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"URs0x1.0.jI.R5eUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Reserve the joint, rent the rooms!!! I'll come to Boulder to Loop! (Don't need much of an excuse to get back to them Rocky Mountains of mine.) Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 12:03:52 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA17536; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:03:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:03:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002401be2a7d$e8cd4d80$838232cc@manda.norlink.net> Reply-To: "Gerry P" From: "Gerry P" To: Subject: Re: Problem with Oberheim not shipping EDP? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:59:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"eqeSx.0.xS3.5aeUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The following is an email I received this morning from Oberheim - it appears all is well in EDP land. ______________________________________ Good morning; Sorry about the confusion concerning the Echoplex. This is NOT a discontinued item, nor is Oberheim out of business. The Echoplex is available, however, due to the Christmas rush, there is about a three-week backorder. I will call 8th Street Music and give them the information. Meanwhile, thanks so much for writing and allowing me to hopefully clear up any misunderstanding. Sincerely, Michael Ayers Oberheim Customer Relations Gerry P manda@norlink.net -----Original Message----- From: jadirusso@statestreet.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 2:34 PM Subject: Problem with Oberheim not shipping EDP? > Hello, > > I have recently been looking around trying to purchase a new EDP > but have found that everywhere is telling me that there is a > problem at Gibson/Oberheim and god only knows when they will be > shipping the EDP again. Has anyone else run into this problem? > Anyone know what the delay is? > By the way I found the Looper's delight web page and mailing > list archives very helpful in my research of looping tools. You > guys have been very helpful in my decision to get an EDP to use for > textures and more in my live improvisations. > > > Thanks, > Joe DiRusso > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 12:10:48 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA20266; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:10:48 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:10:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: LD Volume 2 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:59:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"CZSo21.0.7s3.bdeUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com i would go as well. We should invite john diliberto (echoes) to come to our showcase of looping. tq > -----Original Message----- > From: Hawkeye255@aol.com [SMTP:Hawkeye255@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 11:21 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 > > Reserve the joint, rent the rooms!!! I'll come to Boulder to Loop! > (Don't > need much of an excuse to get back to them Rocky Mountains of mine.) > > Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 13:18:47 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA01882; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:24:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:24:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:12:52 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Roland-Looper? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"vfb382.0.IP7.OydUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Martin, <> sounds interesting! Please send me the info best regards, Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 13:26:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA18744; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:26:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:26:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367A9BB2.49048F25@stic.net> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:15:15 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Live Loopage In Austin References: <199812171848.KAA15046@scv1.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RMJmb1.0.zo2.RdfUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Travis Hartnett wrote: > Futura, an improvisational trio (guitar, bass, DJ), will be playing > Austin, Texas, on Saturday, the 19th of December, at Mojo's Daily Grind > (2714 Guadalupe), between 9PM and 2AM Sunday morning. Admission is free. > > > Travis Hartnett > Futura Hello Travis, How's it going? Just got my Korg ToneWorks AGX1 processor. Interesting sounds. Also limited looping capability of 1.8 sec (in low sampling) and .9 (in high). Not bad for around $150. See ya in January!! Merry Christmas! James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 13:35:54 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA22508; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:35:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:35:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005001be2ab1$a31cbc60$1d1cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:10:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"M51NT2.0.kD3.ThfUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'd like to find out about the EH remake that you have. How much are the prices? Jeff Collins -----Original Message----- From: Kriist@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Friday, December 18, 1998 4:35 AM Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? >In a message dated 12/17/98 10:58:12 PM EST, martins@pwdu.demon.co.uk writes: > >> m in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy >> who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it >> sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. >> >> >> >> Martin Shellard > >do tell > >rodrigo > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 13:36:21 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA22682; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:36:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:36:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981218182137.23063.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: dan sumner Subject: Re: roland dr. sample To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"Exu_81.0.9x3.KpfUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com actually we were talking about the GR1!!! ---Slam630@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 98-11-28 17:45:14 EST, you write: > > << Wana buy mine? CHEAP >> > How much do you want for the Dr. Sample? > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 14:22:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA10467; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:22:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:22:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002401be2a7d$e8cd4d80$838232cc@manda.norlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:09:02 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Problem with Oberheim not shipping EDP? Resent-Message-ID: <"NNG-91.0.S31.XXgUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 3:59 AM -0800 12/18/98, Gerry P wrote: Michael Ayers wrote >The Echoplex is available, however, due to the Christmas rush, there is >about a three-week backorder. Santa's been buying up all the stock, huh? a lot of you going to be looping around the christmas tree this year? A few jingle bell loops maybe? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 14:38:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA16699; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:38:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:38:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981218113526.008b0b90@wavefront.com> X-Sender: chuck.zwicky@wavefront.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:35:26 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chuck Zwicky Subject: Re: Bob Sellon?!? In-Reply-To: <014e01be2a73$44291020$c5b854ce@mark.asisoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"-2-p_3.0.Me2.tkgUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've also been looking for him. The web site is no way to reach him. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? At 05:43 AM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >Here's the URL to his website: > >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/8541/ > >Mark Kata >Mark@asisoftware.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Manfred Bohnhoff >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 6:20 PM >Subject: Bob Sellon?!? > > >>Hi LD, >> >>has anybody got a hint on how to contact Bob Sellon of Lexicon? >>I read about his JamMan Mods but was unable to reach him under either >>bsellon@lexicon.com or sellon@medione.com. >> >>Manfred >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 15:10:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA29684; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:10:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:10:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:58:31 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: RE: tap tempo drum machines Resent-Message-ID: <"TEk8x.0.vp5.KDhUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >i've tried this and it works when using 1 jammam, but how would sync >additional jammen. currently i send clock form the dr660 to a midiman 1 >in 4 out & then to the jammen & everything is locked tight. > You have to split the MIDI signal between the drumbox and the JamMen. This sounds like what you're already doing with the midiman. ________________________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org : www.peak.org/~improv/ "...there will come a day when you won't have to use gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire." -Sun Ra ________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 15:45:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA10906; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:45:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:45:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <004b01be2ac4$ca5e8020$d5b24acf@mesla> From: "Melissa & Scott O'Brien" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:27:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE2A9A.E0BF0DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"rn85N.0.b51.bhhUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE2A9A.E0BF0DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE2A9A.E0BF0DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE2A9A.E0BF0DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 15:51:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA13185; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:51:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:51:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:31:58 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: eric potter cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: rang-o-mania In-Reply-To: <366F00D0.3168AEB0@musician.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"hYl1A3.0.kK1.rjhUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Abouyt using the Aux input on the rang... I tried to use my portable CD player with the rang on my tour last summer, but I couldn't get enough volume from either the line our or headphones out. Is this a problem with the rang, or is there something I'm missing? Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 17:30:00 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA20399; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:30:00 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:30:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:20:24 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question In-Reply-To: <19981211215524.22172.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"XaiQc3.0.Kt3.OJjUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Actually, I think you missed the point of the original post. The EDP in brother sync lets you do stereo loops. It doesn't let you have multiple loops of different lengths playing simultaneously, out of phase with each other. If I'm wrong on this, let me know and I'll run out and buy an EDP right now. We've discussed this on the list before. I don't think it's a major technical limitation for a box to do this, it's more of a UI limitation for a controller. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Bret wrote: > Am I stating the obvious, the EDP in brother sync with other EDP can > do this, and more. > bret > > ---Mike Biffle wrote: > > > > > ... I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking to a > parallel, but > > > unrelated loop for another section. I mean having loops 1 - 2 - 3 > - 4... > > > running simultaneously in parallel, and being able to turn off #2 > for a couple > > > passes, then bring it back in and turn off #4, etc. You know, > like an > > > 8-track mixer with track mute buttons, or like a sampler where you > can trigger > > > multiple samples while others are playing. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 18:00:21 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA00206; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:00:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:00:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:50:57 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"hzBsq2.0.i07.0mjUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Whoops, Kim covered all of this. Sorry. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Unit Circle Media wrote: > Actually, I think you missed the point of the original post. The EDP in > brother sync lets you do stereo loops. It doesn't let you have multiple > loops of different lengths playing simultaneously, out of phase with each > other. If I'm wrong on this, let me know and I'll run out and buy an EDP > right now. We've discussed this on the list before. I don't think it's a > major technical limitation for a box to do this, it's more of a UI > limitation for a controller. > > Kevin > > > > Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com > Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ > > On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Bret wrote: > > > Am I stating the obvious, the EDP in brother sync with other EDP can > > do this, and more. > > bret > > > > ---Mike Biffle wrote: > > > > > > > ... I don't mean layering on one loop and then clicking to a > > parallel, but > > > > unrelated loop for another section. I mean having loops 1 - 2 - 3 > > - 4... > > > > running simultaneously in parallel, and being able to turn off #2 > > for a couple > > > > passes, then bring it back in and turn off #4, etc. You know, > > like an > > > > 8-track mixer with track mute buttons, or like a sampler where you > > can trigger > > > > multiple samples while others are playing. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 18:12:23 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA05025; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:12:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:12:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981218225411.00d95790@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:54:11 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question Resent-Message-ID: <"hE4kH1.0.1P7.VpjUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 05:20 PM 12/18/98 -0500, Unit Circle Media wrote: >Actually, I think you missed the point of the original post. The EDP in >brother sync lets you do stereo loops. It doesn't let you have multiple >loops of different lengths playing simultaneously, out of phase with each >other. If I'm wrong on this, let me know and I'll run out and buy an EDP >right now. We've discussed this on the list before. I don't think it's a >major technical limitation for a box to do this, it's more of a UI >limitation for a controller. > you are wrong about that. The simultaneous multiple loops, different lengths, etc, is exactly the main function of BrotherSync on the echoplex. For stereo connections of echoplex you use the BrotherSync connection, but you don't truly use all the BrotherSync function. In that case you are actually just using the half of it that syncs the sample clocks together on the two units. This keeps you from having phase units and keeps the units nicely together. But this is a master/slave stereo configuration, which is not really BrotherSync. The main point of BrotherSync is the multitrack loop thing that you're all looking for, which is why lots of people own multiple echoplexes to do this. BrotherSync lets you synchronize as many echplexes together as you like. The "Brother" in the name refers to the fact that the units are all equals, rather than in a master-slave configuration. Any one of them can be used to set a basic loop length. The other units can then use that sync pulse to set up loops of any multiple of the original length. Each unit can be operated completely independently, giving you a powerful user interface to the multiple loop tracks or even allowing for multiple loopers working together. At any time, any of them can be used to set a basic loop cycle for the others. There is much more detail about this in the echoplex FAQ on the looper's delight site: http://www.annihilist.com/loop/tools/echoplex/FAQ7.html kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 20:48:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA06861; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:48:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:48:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:39:37 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Casablanca - Windows sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"Txx5I.0.0p.hEmUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/18/98 8:59:08 AM EST, dennis@mdbs.com writes: > Martin Shellard wrote: > > > > I'm in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy > > who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it > > sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. > > Please, mail me the details! Perhaps you should just post a message to the > list. There's > probably enough interest. > > - Dennis Leas > -- Um, if this info was posted already, can someone repost it please. Rodrigo Kriist@Aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 18 23:26:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA06295; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:26:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:26:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981218175522.007c4800@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:55:22 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: rang-o-mania In-Reply-To: References: <366F00D0.3168AEB0@musician.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"UuzBu.0.tt7.PSoUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kevin, The aux inputs should be optimized for most consumer-level stuff, but you could try different input settings on the 'Rang using the regular inputs--you could even use an A/B box in order to do this. This way, you'd have a trim control and an input type select switch to get the level you needed. I've found that a bit of experimentation with it usually yields the result you're looking for. You could also compare the output of your home CD player or some other source, and be able to see if you portable just wasn't putting out much of a signal. If all else fails, email Mike at Boomerang at: mnelson@dmans.com Please let me know if any of this helps or not. Good luck! Jeff McLeod At 03:31 PM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >Abouyt using the Aux input on the rang... I tried to use my portable CD >player with the rang on my tour last summer, but I couldn't get enough >volume from either the line our or headphones out. Is this a problem with >the rang, or is there something I'm missing? > > Kevin > > > >Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com >Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ > > > __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 00:00:49 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id AAA19911; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:00:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:00:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: bryan.helm@dinosaur.com Message-ID: <9812182137.0UDGX00@dinosaur.com> Organization: The Dinosaur Board X-Mailer: TBBS/TIGER v1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Dec 98 21:37:16 -0700 Subject: uncompilation To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"diLMy1.0.Iq2.2uoUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As a consequence of reading this list almost every day for most of it's existance, I've come to the conclusion that the 4th Looper's Delight CD should be titled simply.. "Unsubscribe" Given the nature of such things, estimated release date will be well into the next century.....no criteria of import will be used in selecting the work to be included... and the cover graphics will be done by an artist of less than 10 years of age... looks to be a possible double disc deal already...did I mention there will be a non-refundable 25 cent($0.25) fee for submission? This "unlurked" jab is intended for amusement purposes only and no wagering is allowed. Continuing to avoid being the subject of the "loop of the week"... Bryan Helm "Techno-Primitive Tantrum Boy" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 02:57:59 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA21948; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:57:59 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:57:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9812182137.0UDGX00@dinosaur.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 23:46:55 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: uncompilation Resent-Message-ID: <"mX-wZ3.0.EL4.edrUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:37 PM -0800 12/18/98, bryan.helm@dinosaur.com wrote: >As a consequence of reading this list almost every day >for most of it's existance, I've come to the conclusion >that the 4th Looper's Delight CD should be titled simply.. > > "Unsubscribe" no, it would be titled "Unsusribbe", and the follow up would be "Stop sending me your fucking mail! I didn't subbcribe to this fucking list!! Take me off NOW!" actually, these things happen much less frequently since we got the list software updated. It now recognizes far more bizarre spelling variations of "unsubscribe", and most of the ones sent to the list address are filtered off to the request server. (although a few sneak by.) Even hotmail addresses work now, although I sortof miss seeing hotmail users getting apoplectic and threatening my life over being on the list two days longer than they wanted to be. ahh, the good old days.... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 03:54:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA11819; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:54:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:54:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Trisstine@aol.com Message-ID: <5309771b.367b5f78@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:10:32 EST To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: re:reverb/delay units Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"iiXAw.0.Xf6.6zrUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Listers, 12/18 Having picked my main looping unit(s), the EDP(2 of them), I'm now looking to update my reverb/delay units.(2 older Alesis Quadraverbs) Are there any units out there that are live-use friendly(i.e. easily adjustable w/o using midi), as well as producing excellent reverbs? Anyone using any of the newer Lexicons? Recommendations? Chris Olden From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 04:08:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA16838; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:08:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 04:08:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981218134820.00737460@mail.dada.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:24:13 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: demo mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"RVBBW1.0.at7.T9sUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 5:48 AM -0800 12/18/98, Leonardo Cavallo wrote: >Hi guys > >I've just uploaded a little demo mp3 files containing some short examples of >my sampling and sequencing work. >The file is CAVALLOdemo.mp3 (1.7M) on the ftp.teklab.com site. directory: >Incoming. Hey Leo! some really nice bits in there. When can we hear the whole tracks? kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 05:24:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA13187; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 05:24:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 05:24:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:42:20 +0000 Message-ID: <001C443D.1424@mail.bl.uk> From: David.Orton@mail.bl.uk (David Orton) Subject: A seasonal gift (sorta) plus news for UK loopers (mainly) To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Kim Flint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"BOhFj.0.HH7.tItUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi eveyone In the spirit of seasonal sharing etc. I've just uploaded an MP3 file (approx 1.4Mb) with a deconstruction of a Yule-tide classic I used to sing as a boy several decades ago - it lives at: And spreading good will throughout the UK - a few of you may recall my gig at the British Library's new(ish) building at St. Pancras, here in London, UK. I have since been in touch with Tony Panayi of Global Village Productions who organised several other music events there during 1998. He is hoping to put some concerts on starting around March 1999. Still nothing definite, subject to agreement with the BL etc etc. However if you're at all interested, send him a tape at his collection box: Tony Panayi Global Village Productions 37 Store Street London WC1E 7BF His phone number - 07050 311870 - is a message answeing thing so he can be difficult to contact. I can't say if anything will come of this - obviously I hope so, cos I'm on a promise of a gig myself, but for the cost of a C60 I can't see it'll hurt. Anyways over to you Cheers and best wishes to you & yours from me & mine David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 06:38:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA03489; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:38:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:38:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981219110310.00747920@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:03:10 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: demo mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"foqFE3.0.0M6.VVuUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 00:24 19.12.98 -0800, you wrote: >At 5:48 AM -0800 12/18/98, Leonardo Cavallo wrote: >>Hi guys >> >>I've just uploaded a little demo mp3 files containing some short examples of >>my sampling and sequencing work. >>The file is CAVALLOdemo.mp3 (1.7M) on the ftp.teklab.com site. directory: >>Incoming. > >Hey Leo! some really nice bits in there. When can we hear the whole tracks? > >kim thanks Kim I have several tracks done but those bits are samples from groove CDs I make every month for an italian magazine (Cubase magazine). That mp3 contains only the "mixed" version of the grooves. Each trax has its single instruments and parts too, so to be used by others. As soon as possibile I'm going to upload more complete tracks on the same ftp stite (ftp.teklab.com). ciao leo >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html >http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 06:51:54 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA07528; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:51:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:51:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981219102123.0074a3e0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 11:21:23 +0100 To: From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: demo mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"z2bh23.0.SO7.EhuUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com SORRY: don't know if this appeared on the list (I'm having some problems with my mail server). -------------- Hi guys I've just uploaded a little demo mp3 files containing some short examples of my sampling and sequencing work. The file is CAVALLOdemo.mp3 (1.7M) on the ftp.teklab.com site. directory: Incoming. Used gear : a PC with some software, A3000 sampler, electric bass 5 string. Variuos styles of drum'n bass, trip hop, etc. ciao leo PS any comments and suggestion are welcome! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 08:11:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA04138; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:11:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:11:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367B9F51.EEF21C94@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 07:42:57 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: uncompilation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"F6H5-.0.qx5.KuvUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "you don't know what you've got till its gone" jeff Kim Flint wrote: > At 8:37 PM -0800 12/18/98, bryan.helm@dinosaur.com wrote: > >As a consequence of reading this list almost every day > >for most of it's existance, I've come to the conclusion > >that the 4th Looper's Delight CD should be titled simply.. > > > > "Unsubscribe" > > no, it would be titled "Unsusribbe", and the follow up would be "Stop > sending me your fucking mail! I didn't subbcribe to this fucking list!! > Take me off NOW!" > > actually, these things happen much less frequently since we got the list > software updated. It now recognizes far more bizarre spelling variations of > "unsubscribe", and most of the ones sent to the list address are filtered > off to the request server. (although a few sneak by.) Even hotmail > addresses work now, although I sortof miss seeing hotmail users getting > apoplectic and threatening my life over being on the list two days longer > than they wanted to be. ahh, the good old days.... > > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html > http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 08:15:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA05572; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:15:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:15:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367BA014.F9C9C74B@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 07:46:13 -0500 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: reverb/delay units References: <5309771b.367b5f78@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vFBMp1.0.fD6.MxvUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com what do you want for the quadraverbs? jeff Trisstine@aol.com wrote: > Listers, 12/18 > Having picked my main looping unit(s), the EDP(2 of them), I'm > now looking to update my reverb/delay units.(2 older Alesis > Quadraverbs) Are there any units out there that are live-use > friendly(i.e. easily adjustable w/o using midi), as well as > producing excellent reverbs? Anyone using any of the newer > Lexicons? Recommendations? > Chris Olden From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 09:21:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA30323; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:21:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:21:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:49:06 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: reverb/delay units Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"MNBVm2.0.hP4.YwwUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com santa just gave me a lexicon mpx 100 and i am liking it a lot so far. haven't really had time to put it through its paces but it sounds a lot better than the midiverb3 i got rid of a few yrs back. and my jamman is happy to have something sharing its rack with it again. i just hope there isn't any sibling rivalry to contend with later. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 09:33:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA01854; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:33:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:33:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Marzzz@aol.com Message-ID: <98929f0a.367bb157@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 08:59:51 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: re:reverb/delay units Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 189 Resent-Message-ID: <"b6kt_2.0.bV5.S5xUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/19/98 8:56:24 AM, Trisstine@aol.com writes: <> Lexicon MXP100 (!) Marshall From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 09:38:37 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA03791; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:38:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 09:38:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367BB0D4.374E6FEE@Buddhas.de> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 14:57:41 +0100 Reply-To: Manfred@Buddhas.de Organization: The Buddhas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [de]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: contacting Bob Sellon-any more ideas? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 320024095934-0001@t-online.de From: Manfred_Bohnhoff@t-online.de (Manfred Bohnhoff) Resent-Message-ID: <"4YN2A1.0.-x5.8AxUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sorry, LD, but bsellon@mediaone.net didn´t work either. And Bob´s website is where I got the two other addresses from that seem to be inactive. Any other hints? Manfred From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 12:14:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA29796; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:14:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:14:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <22a0f2c2.367bdad8@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 11:56:56 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Vortex users Christmas present Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 171 Resent-Message-ID: <"xNtV52.0.cc5.dgzUs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Atmosphere B Set:- Mix 32 Mod FX LVL and Echo LVL 64 Echo 1& 2 1 Feedback 1 64 or less maybe Feedback 2 1 Resonance 1 64 ........and assign pedal to resonance 2 You now have a pedal activated varispeed echo, the effect gets greater on shorter delay times. Andy Butler. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 13:00:50 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA15125; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:00:50 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:00:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367B9B9D.73B6E282@play-live.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:27:10 +0000 From: pla-supp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <004b01be2ac4$ca5e8020$d5b24acf@mesla> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0DF06C63A396EA33D32B2095" Resent-Message-ID: <"4SK7z1.0.gZ.28-Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------0DF06C63A396EA33D32B2095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Melissa & Scott O'Brien wrote: > unsubscribe --------------0DF06C63A396EA33D32B2095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

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--------------0DF06C63A396EA33D32B2095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 13:14:21 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA20390; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:14:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:14:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812191804.NAA14795@shell.monmouth.com> Reply-To: From: "andre" To: Cc: "andre" Subject: Gtr Oblq... Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:06:39 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"SVjJP3.0.734.mg-Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com GTR OBLQ Knit 12/18 11pm anyone else make the show..real or virtually??? well - hope so - 2nd set was a mind-blow.... guitar - metal strings vibrating in an electrified magnetic field, simple equation yet - what the fuck does it all tap into?? That's what we're here to find out. It's impossible to put music into words - you all know that, but i'll attempt to bring a little bit of the experience to light. ....first couple pieces were a little disjointed, and as a friend in attendance remarked, it sounded like Torn,Sharp & Reid were all playing their own , albeit very cool, ideas, but not really connected. But then about 25-30 mins in, everything kicked in - they started creating a huge wind of sound..i personally was hearing chants, airplane screams and bombs.. to these stoned out ears , at times they were channelling the attack on Iraq....esp. when Torn kicked on the arabic-sounding vocalist he puts thru his pickups from a little dictaphone\\ from time to time vernon and E# dipped into some acoustics, which added a nice new dynamic- vernon at one point cycling thru an almost genesis-style arpeggio, Torn filling the space with a fluid fog of tone, Elliot skittering out bizarre chattering notes. -they also dipped into two of the pieces on the CD, which was nice to have something to hang onto - a familiar melody!! this project really is developing into something wild - they pretty much live on the edge - anything goes.. i only wish BLUE would go out there a bit more. i love not knowing AT ALL where we the audience will be in 5 minutes! Once these guys lock in, they really listen and let everything breathe and segue real nicely-hope someone taped it ! One bizarre, scary event transpired.. Vernon had his 4x12, on top of that the 5-6 space rack with the amp in it, on top of THAT his 6 space guitar stand.. well.. vibrations or whatever, at one point the whole fuckin' thing came falling down!!! all his guitars ALL of em - smashing down onto the stage - a 6-8 ft fall!! i dunno how the 50 pound head didn't trash any gear on the floor! vernon went tumbling forward - amazingly - only with a small cut to a thumb. the stunned crowd hung out while E# , DT and Sascha (KF sound) put it all together again...unbelievably - all guitars were pretty much in tune and unharmed!! Good Karma! ahh..and quite the quiet fashionable loopers, Torn yogi-like in comfortable all white, Vernon in black with a stylish wool hat, E# snazzy, euro-style, with a great black shirt with egyptian-ish bands of gold all around it... approximate (!) GEARhead report: E#- asst. bizarre headless guitars, 8-10 string custom thing, Godin(?) electro-acoustic powerbook for asstd grooves (hmm.. sometimes not my fave sounds emanating here..) Asstd pedals, whammy etc into a Boomerang, into a couple combos - fender and ? Vernon - VHT amp/4x12 spkrs, Effects incl boomerang, Boss floor multiFX thing (GT5?) whammy pedal, not much more. TONS of yamaha, alesis etc samplers, synth modules, mackie or similar little mixing board,etc (TOO MANY WIRES!!) (check out Torn's rack , Vern!) he played asttd Hamer custom axes, one with built-in-body midi pickup, an ovation acoustic, a banjo (scenes of the duet CD with Frisell-great disc) Axon double neck - with one neck regular, one neck radical synth trigger - (this thing was amazing!! i simply cannot exagerate the amt of sensitivity he was getting, the expressiveness on one flute sound he had..anyone hear that?? it was NOT a real woodwind player!! NO It was NOT!!) D Torn mutilated air with his usual Klein, rivera monster rig, the encore featured the Mini blue Strat - his FX have been listed here recently, same rig as BLUE shows... lexicon-loaded rack, on the floor a maze of TC, Boss, custom boxes, exp & vol pedals a little bit o'looping with the ol' oud too From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 13:40:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA30410; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:40:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:40:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000d01be2b7e$cd57a760$82d43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: "Loop" Subject: help? Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:38:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"E38qc.0.-j6.d5_Us"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, I have a prob with my echoplex. Every time I push record on my echoplex or on EFC-7 it makes a pop (or a click if you prefer). The same thing is for overdub or multiply, insert etc. I think this is for everthing is with recording operations. I have also a noise on the background, always! any help? Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 15:12:25 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA01391; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:12:25 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:12:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <002d01be2b8a$00c75fe0$98d43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: "Loop" Subject: help? 2 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:57:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"esHz52.0.8V6.pG0Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com always Salvatore from Italy, an update :-) I forgotted to write also that my echoplex also doesn't record (sample) if volume of what I play is too low (it's too low for echoplex not for me). When volume becomes enough it starts to record (samples) something. Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 15:38:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA11911; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:38:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:38:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <006c01be2b8d$c76f5d20$98d43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: Subject: R: EDP mailorder Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:25:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"Pslfm2.0.tB1.6g0Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Kim Flint A: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Data: martedì 15 dicembre 1998 22.53 Oggetto: Re: EDP mailorder >In fact, call them to find a good dealer: 877-OBERHEIM (877-623-7434) or >obie@gibson.com. they're quite helpful. > >kim > This email address doesn't work to me. Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 16:15:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA26417; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:15:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:15:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812192110.VAA00134@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> From: "Tim Walker" To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:50:00 Reply-To: "Tim Walker" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Forthcoming MP3.com looping CD Resent-Message-ID: <"CFPod3.0.Xt5.oN1Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi y'all, A little shameless plug in advance of the festive season... I'm currently working on a guitar & looper solo CD, to be made available through MP3.com's DAM scheme. There are a couple of sample tracks available for download from my page on the site, and I'll be uploading more as I complete more pieces for the project. Feel free to drop by http://www.mp3.com/timwalker/ and take a listen - the tracks currently there are around 4-5Mb downloads, but some shorter ones will be winging their merry way to MP3.com shortly (including a sequence of ten sixty-second pieces). Recording for the project should be completed by the spring of next year, after which I intend to release the CD (which carries a working title of "Over The Bridge") via my MP3.com page. BTW, for those who've been posting on the subject of the Boomerang looper: I use it all over these recordings, as I did with my previous project ("Through The Arch Window" - still available online at www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/5117/). It's turned my guitar style around in the space of six months... Thanks for reading, and happy Christmas to all LD readers! ************************************************************ +--------------+ Tim Walker { o o } Staines, Middlesex, UK { [] } tawalker@dircon.co.uk { \__________/ } http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~tawalker/ +--------------+ "You can't always wait for a composer to write the music you want to play." (Derek Bailey) ************************************************************ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 19:53:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA13914; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:53:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:53:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: OT: Echoplex prices Date: Sun, 20 Dec 98 00:51:45 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"yd7B3.0.Qn2.8Z4Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi all Iwas just wondering if any kind soul could give me an idea of EDP prices in the US, I'm planning a trip and would love to pick one up. Thanks Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 19:53:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA13866; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:53:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:53:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: EH 16 sec delay copy Date: Sun, 20 Dec 98 00:51:55 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"QoT13.0.ko2.FZ4Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >In a message dated 12/17/98 10:58:12 PM EST, martins@pwdu.demon.co.uk = writes: > >> m in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy >> who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it >> sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. = >> Martin Shellard > >do tell > >rodrigo To all who replied and are curious: I don't have the guy's address on me right now but I can tell you = that the delay comes in a 19" rack with a footpedal to control = bypass,loop on/off, Fast/Slow speed and Forward/Bacward playback. The = front panel has all these controls plus an lfo rate and depth, = feedback and a clix control (I think for syncing to some kind of = input but no midi). On the back panel are mono in/out, power out for the footpedal,clix = input and power in. The power supply is internal so for the US it = would need to be converted (or ordered for US spec) To get the 16 sec you have to use the slow speed p[layback which = lowers sample rate and so sounds different to high speed but it's a = great sound. In fact I often play guitar through on slow set to short = delay and no feedback with lfo on just for this sound. It has that great mellow sound that the EH has . AFAIK it's electronically authentic replica and it's performance = reflects this. The build quality is a little home made but as they are built to = order I guess he'll use higher spec components (switches and buttons = etc.) if you ask for them. When I got one the price was about =A3400 UK sterling. This isn't = cheap for what it is but when you see the originals going for = $1000+....if you can find one. It's more roadworthy than the original and sound great. I will post contact details privately to anyone that is interested. Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 19:53:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA13865; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:53:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:53:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: Problem with Oberheim not shipping EDP? Date: Sun, 20 Dec 98 00:51:52 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"ucNau2.0.ln2.AZ4Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >EDP is an excellent tool for live (real time looping). I don't there >is anything come close. However, if you consider to do more processing >on your loop in a studio or home, try to use a Audio sequencer, I used >Emagic Logic Audio on Mac and you can produce much more complex stuff >with it. Have you tried Prosoniq's free North Pole VST plug in. It's a resonant filter with delay and distortion, great for loop processing! Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 20:09:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA19913; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:09:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:09:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006c01be2b8d$c76f5d20$98d43dc3@termosifone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:57:27 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: R: EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"JskJk2.0.FR4.Uq4Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:25 PM -0800 12/19/98, Salvatore Passaro wrote: >>In fact, call them to find a good dealer: 877-OBERHEIM (877-623-7434) or >>obie@gibson.com. they're quite helpful. >> >>kim >> > > >This email address doesn't work to me. hmm, try Mike Ayers directly, mayers@gibson.com kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 21:52:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA26579; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:52:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:52:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367C66A0.6ED9B1E9@play-live.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 21:53:21 -0500 From: Play-live Support Organization: Mext Millennium Inc. 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--------------C328CD3C1853266E3D9A8A7C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 22:24:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA05926; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:24:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:24:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002d01be2b8a$00c75fe0$98d43dc3@termosifone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 19:13:16 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: help? 2 Resent-Message-ID: <"7QQBC.0.7_.0o6Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:57 AM -0800 12/19/98, Salvatore Passaro wrote: >always Salvatore from Italy, an update :-) > >I forgotted to write also that my echoplex also doesn't record (sample) if >volume of what I play is too low (it's too low for echoplex not for me). >When volume becomes enough it starts to record (samples) something. sounds to me like you have the "threshold" parameter set to something other than 0. That's the purpose of this parameter - when it's set to something, You tap record and the echoplex waits until you actually start playing something before the recording starts. Convenient for people who can't coordinate their foot tapping and their playing. :-) It's funny to watch people first try to use a looper. For some reason they often don't realise that starting and stopping the Record is a rhythmic thing, which they have to do in time. So its Tap, then start playing a moment later. Then wonder why they have that space in the beginning of the loop. :-) I guess people see a pedal and think of it like changing an amp channel or a preset on a multieffect, or turning on a stompbox, where you tap the pedal before you start playing, usually not in rhythm. For people who just can't break that habit, the threshold parameter is helpful. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 19 22:50:34 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA16065; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:50:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:50:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: siforte@popd.ix.netcom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 20:50:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: siforte@ix.netcom.com (Sanford Forte) Subject: Re: R: EDP mailorder Cc: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Resent-Message-ID: <"srcZY1.0.hQ3.sA7Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:57 PM 12/19/98, Kim Flint wrote: >hmm, try Mike Ayers directly, mayers@gibson.com ----- Mike Ayers is a gem - a genuine asset to Oberheim. *Every* time I have ever asked him for help or advice he has come through. Sanford 'giving credit where it's due' Forte From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 02:05:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA23421; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 02:05:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 02:05:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981220005325.007a0810@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 00:53:25 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Music suggestions? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"vOzuX.0.Kg4.Jx9Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, everyone, Since I'm in a searching mode, I thought I'd ask for suggestions on music (looping-oriented desired, but not completely necessary...). What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just as long as it has an edge of danger to it. I do appreciate artists who have a nice balance of dark and light, too. I'm currently listening to a band called Hovercraft, who are improv-based and have blown the cobwebs out of my skull. Just guitar, bass and drums--but it all sounds like something right from a murderer's brain. Very disturbing. I thought I'd pick everyone's brains and see what came back from the list! I look forward to hearing from you. If you need any more info or descriptiveness, I'd be happy to oblige! Thanking you all in advance, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 02:39:02 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA04847; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 02:39:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 02:39:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: klaw@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:37:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Keenan Lawler Subject: Re: Music suggestions? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981220005325.007a0810@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"uBftJ1.0.Kv7.YQAVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 12:53 AM 12/20/98 -0600, you wrote: Hi Jeff- > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just as >long as it has an edge of danger to it. I >Check out Frontier from Chicago.E.A.R.from UK..Robert Rich. Final (Justin from Godflesh)Have you heard any of the stuff Pauline Oliveros recorded in the Fort Worden cistern?Its amazing very ambient dark & beautiful -notable for natural decay time of the enviroment itself-45 secs!!Wow too many sounds to metion here.lotta music out there.. check out Forced Exposures website.Its very informative and full of great obscure -underground music KLAW > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 04:17:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA11038; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 04:17:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 04:17:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Trisstine@aol.com Message-ID: <52b4cf93.367cbe85@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 04:08:21 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"bg2ab3.0.7j1.XvBVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff, 12/20 Check out Death Cube K. It's actually Buckethead, but ambient strrangeness instead of his normal psycho-shred. Heck, check out all of his stuff! Very bizzarre, and cool. Blind Idiot God is a cool band from N.Y. Very noisy instrumental stuff. And finally, Caspar Brotzmann. Check out "Massaker". Very, very loud and scary! Chris Olden From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 05:30:29 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA07087; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 05:30:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 05:30:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367CF195.7515@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:46:13 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? References: <52b4cf93.367cbe85@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"0iSbx3.0.Mr.XzCVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy: Check out: Skiny Puppy, Forrest for the Trees, and try Audio files of Joe Frank(he's mostly spoken word but uses lots of loops). Colin Jenkinson|nosnikneJ niloC P.S. I have scary ,all ambient Chapman Stick CD called "Experience Cloud", two of the tracks were inspired by David Lynches "Errasor Head". From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 10:10:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA15677; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:10:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:10:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981220100530.007bc5e0@mindspring.com> X-Sender: zanga@mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:05:30 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Rik Myers Subject: Re: Music suggestions? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981220005325.007a0810@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"ptc1n.0.P_2.p5HVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey now, Jefe > Since I'm in a searching mode, I thought I'd ask for suggestions on music 1) James Blood Ulmer "Music speaks louder than words" on Koch Jazz 3-7833-2-H1 (1997). Six of the compositions are by Ornette Coleman (Ulmer's former gig) and three are originals penned by Blood. I'm quite fond of all of his recorded work, but this one is in the heaviest recent rotation. Ulmer is a dangerous guitarist alright. One of his tricks, one that I rip off shamelessly, is to tune 5 strings standard and one string randomly. Ulmer calls this "giving a string to the guitar" and it forces you to be more copncious of the instrument instead of merely wanking. He also employs sopme lovely but harrowing dissonance by playing drones using the "guitar's string" while playing a harmolodic figure on the other strings. Cool! 2) Derek Bailey and Henry Kaiser "Wire forks". I lent this to a jazzer in Vancouver BC and never saw it again (though I did manage to get back Oliver Lake..). If you are remotely familiar with Bailey's work, this will be no suprise. If your are familiar with Kaiser's work, you will be suprised (unless you've come to the conclusion that he'll play almost ANYTHING, in which case it will be biz as usual). This whole CD sounds like prepared guitar, but I don't believe it is (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I thuink it sounds alot like electricity, and the coloured lihgts you get when pressing on your eyelids. Man. And, yes, pretty disturbing stuff. Used to give me the willies. That should give you plenty to chew on! Hasta and hoho -> Dr Rico From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 11:06:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA05801; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:06:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:06:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D208E.459F4415@play-live.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:06:38 -0500 From: Play-live Support Organization: Mext Millennium Inc. 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--------------BB750B93BC22F3994531909E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 11:26:34 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA13890; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:26:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:26:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <11833b6b.367d2223@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:13:23 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: speakers???? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"tABbB3.0.v_1.i7IVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ola all.....i play my music through my stereo system.....my very old klh speakers are falling apart.....any ideas on inexpensive (and i stress this word) speakers.....i would like to get 4 so i can always play the "big room"......also, some time ago there was some talk about the digitec "space station" pedal.....is it worth looking at?.....i would like to wish you all a very merry christmas.........and send a special thanks to kim for his wonderful work for all of us...........michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 12:40:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA12418; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:40:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:40:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D367C.9AB1C2EA@stic.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:40:12 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Roland-Looper? References: <85d9de5e.367a1fcd@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"p7SPk3.0.eD2.bIJVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Kriist@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/17/98 10:58:12 PM EST, martins@pwdu.demon.co.uk writes: > > > m in the UK but don't know anyone who mods Roland but I do know a guy > > who builds rackmounted EH 16 second delay replicas. I have one and it > > sounds great. If anyone is interested I'll glad mail them the details. > > > > Most definately!! I also just got the first AMMMusic album(cd) from 1966. > Great stuff!!! James > > > > Martin Shellard > > do tell > > rodrigo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 12:57:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA20191; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:57:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:57:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:50:13 -0500 From: Alessandro Ricciarelli Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Sender: Alessandro Ricciarelli To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199812201250_MC2-6441-F2D2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"5Mhsf2.0.gy3.DYJVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Cluster&Eno. There are two albums they did together, and the one I like i= s just titled Cluster&Eno. It is really good. = From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 13:08:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA25140; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:08:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:08:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: RE: speakers???? Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:02:44 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01be2c42$f27d1560$a423dacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <11833b6b.367d2223@aol.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <"4OYlB1.0._R5.FkJVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The speakers I use on my PC are actually a pair of Chinese knockoffs of Bose mini-speakers, and put out 120W per channel (not that I've used the volume much, but I checked once with a loop going, turned 'em up and went outside, to hear no distortion), with separate volume, bass and treble adjustments. They cost $29. Is that cheap enough for you? Bought 'em in Covina at one of a million PC stores, near the WalMart Monolith. Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week (for the Holidays)! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios > -----Original Message----- > From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:13 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: speakers???? > > > ola all.....i play my music through my stereo system.....my > very old klh > speakers are falling apart.....any ideas on inexpensive (and > i stress this > word) speakers.....i would like to get 4 so i can always play the "big > room"......also, some time ago there was some talk about the > digitec "space > station" pedal.....is it worth looking at?.....i would like > to wish you all a > very merry christmas.........and send a special thanks to kim for his > wonderful work for all of us...........michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 13:16:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA28397; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:16:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:16:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D3EDB.D5173B9D@stic.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:15:55 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"vLooF1.0.g46.3qJVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Keenan Lawler wrote: > At 12:53 AM 12/20/98 -0600, you wrote: > Hi Jeff- > > > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just as > >long as it has an edge of danger to it. I > >Check out Frontier from Chicago.E.A.R.from UK..Robert Rich. Final (Justin > from Godflesh)Have you heard any of the stuff Pauline Oliveros recorded in > the Fort Worden cistern?Its amazing very ambient dark & beautiful -notable > for natural decay time of the enviroment itself-45 secs!!Wow too many > sounds to metion here.lotta music out there.. > check out Forced Exposures website.Its very informative and > full of great obscure -underground music KLAW > > I most definately agree. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 13:40:01 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05741; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:40:01 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:40:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D4308.4D18DBAC@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:33:44 +0000 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #251 References: <199812200743.CAA06643@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"GvQuP.0.xN.R8KVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com What sort of music are we talking about here? My own is a sort of tribal ambience using extended guitar techniques, (hey that sounds good doesn't it)? By the way, I'll be doing a spot at the diggers gig at the end of January at the Chapter Arts Centre in Cardiff using a Zoom 8080, a strat and poss a slide guitar also possibly some live computer processing using AudioMulch, (which incidentally nobody's reponded to my announcement of- Strange!). Loops akimbo! Gareth > And spreading good will throughout the UK - a few of you may recall my > gig at the British Library's new(ish) building at St. Pancras, here in > London, UK. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 13:43:55 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA07557; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:43:55 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:43:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D43DC.8CDCF8A1@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:37:16 +0000 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:gig review References: <199812200806.DAA16276@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"QUZvG2.0.Fn.kBKVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oh, forgot to say that I really enjoyed the gig review posted here (sorry I've lost the name). Wish I'd been there. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 13:40:21 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA05916; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:40:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:40:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: ENAT21213@aol.com Message-ID: <7e4e392b.367d4288@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:31:36 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"cfarT.0.vT.99KVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com check out electric bird noise (sound samples, etc.) at : http://members.aol.com/ebnoise/index.html your thoughts? In a message dated 12/20/98 2:06:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, subversive@mindspring.com writes: > Hello, everyone, > Since I'm in a searching mode, I thought I'd ask for suggestions on music > (looping-oriented desired, but not completely necessary...). > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just as > long as it has an edge of danger to it. I do appreciate artists who have a > nice balance of dark and light, too. I'm currently listening to a band > called Hovercraft, who are improv-based and have blown the cobwebs out of > my skull. Just guitar, bass and drums--but it all sounds like something > right from a murderer's brain. Very disturbing. > I thought I'd pick everyone's brains and see what came back from the list! > I look forward to hearing from you. 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--------------97EBEC9CB80585DCC42DA16C-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 14:05:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA17015; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:05:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:05:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D0122.F54B735F@play-live.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:52:34 +0000 From: pla-supp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"X1kQx1.0.zr2.5UKVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com take us off your mailing list From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 14:03:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA15922; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:03:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:03:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367CFFDC.FAE8F74F@play-live.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:47:08 +0000 From: pla-supp X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <004b01be2ac4$ca5e8020$d5b24acf@mesla> <367B9B9D.73B6E282@play-live.com> <367C66A0.6ED9B1E9@play-live.com> <367D208E.459F4415@play-live.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1504EEF901631D8A917F82F8" Resent-Message-ID: <"UNoti1.0.AD2.0PKVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------1504EEF901631D8A917F82F8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Play-live Support wrote: > Please take support@play-live.com off your mailing list!!!!! > > > Play-live Support wrote: > >> >> >> pla-supp wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > Melissa & Scott O'Brien wrote: >> > >> >> unsubscribe >> > --------------1504EEF901631D8A917F82F8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

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--------------1504EEF901631D8A917F82F8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 14:49:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA02730; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:49:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 14:49:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367CF98E.6E58@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 13:20:14 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <004b01be2ac4$ca5e8020$d5b24acf@mesla> <367B9B9D.73B6E282@play-live.com> <367C66A0.6ED9B1E9@play-live.com> <367D208E.459F4415@play-live.com> <367CFFDC.FAE8F74F@play-live.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"6WwrF.0.RC7.k6LVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To unsubscribe from most of these majordomo lists, I believe you need to send the message to majordomo@ari.net and in the body of the message write unsubscribe [mail list name]. I'm no expert on this, just trying to help. Colin Jenkinson|nosnikneJ niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 15:16:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA13558; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 15:16:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 15:16:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:56:09 -0800 Message-ID: <0016B0D8.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[2]: LD Volume 2 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Todd Quincy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"zi-8w.0.kU2.QaLVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com It's now likely that I may be able to get out to Boulder for "other" purposes in the spring or summer! I'd certainly be into bringing a small rig for some loop jamming! Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: LD Volume 2 Author: Todd Quincy at INTERNET Date: 12/18/98 12:07 PM i would go as well. We should invite john diliberto (echoes) to come to our showcase of looping. tq > -----Original Message----- > From: Hawkeye255@aol.com [SMTP:Hawkeye255@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, December 18, 1998 11:21 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Re: LD Volume 2 > > Reserve the joint, rent the rooms!!! I'll come to Boulder to Loop! > (Don't > need much of an excuse to get back to them Rocky Mountains of mine.) > > Hawkeye From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 15:30:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA19654; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 15:30:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 15:30:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Intended-For: Message-ID: <367D5C18.1960@aa.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:20:40 -0800 From: George Pollow Reply-To: pollow@aa.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: cgdaeg tuning Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4kikl3.0.cZ3.ZkLVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hey! Since someone was mentioning the cgdaeg tuning I thought Id put this question up. I like having only 5 strings on my guitar so I can do wider vibrato on the high E string and I was tuning my guitar to cgdae. I liked that alot but I wanted more high notes since I dont use the real low ones so I tried tuning d#-a#-f-c-g. Honestly - I thought I was being a bit original with that fifth tuning stuff untill I saw that some "guitar craft" people were actually teaching it that way. I was just wondering since aparently there are other players tuning to fifths and tuning a high E string to G if there is a string size that wont break as easily to tune up to G. Or maybe some spells to recite over the string before tuning it? Some special way of setting up a tuning peg? They bust at the peg alot but it doesent seem rough anywhere. Id hate to have to put it back down to the other tuning cuz you get that awsome high E with only 21 frets and it sounds super dramatic with wide vibrato. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 16:27:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA10197; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:27:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:27:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367D668C.3DE2@club-internet.fr> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:05:16 +0100 From: PERILLE Reply-To: perille@club-internet.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: DJRND2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"WCIUr.0.mI.uPMVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello looping people, I have just incorporated on my website a small sound example : GORGONE http://www.club-internet.fr/membres/perille I have lowered down the price of my DJRND2 40khz propotyte to US$800 Emmanuel perille@club-internet.fr From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 16:46:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA18230; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:46:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:46:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001101be2c61$0aa09ae0$add43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: Subject: R: help? 2 Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 22:23:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"JWgxH3.0.I23.mpMVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ... >sounds to me like you have the "threshold" parameter set to something other >than 0. That's the purpose of this parameter - when it's set to something, >You tap record and the echoplex waits until you actually start playing >something before the recording starts. Convenient for people who can't >coordinate their foot tapping and their playing. :-) > :-( My threshold is 0! thanks, Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 17:39:35 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA07068; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:39:35 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:39:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981220171415.007af610@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: leper@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 17:14:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: "earthblind, starbound" Subject: new Grendel song In-Reply-To: <199812190805.DAA25089@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"LfYZN1.0.JY7.fTNVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi folks. It's Grendel here again, to tell you there's another Grendel song for you to listen to, if you'e interested. It's sort of folk and industrial and metal and prog, and makes use of a few samples from country music, so this little ditty is called, "My Bitch Ran Away With My Best Friend, but Fuck You If You Think I'm Writing a Country Song About It." Almost everything in it is looped. In the future there may be an extra guitar part added, but I wanted to have something up in 1998. Tell me what you think. URL is in the .sig. -- *Consider yourself warned.* -- Grendel (Industrial/Electronic Prog): http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664/grendel.html Against a Sickness: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4664 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 18:21:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA24220; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:21:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:21:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812202313.RAA20693@supermail.globaldialog.com> Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Sun, 20 Dec 98 18:11:00 -0000 x-sender: camuscar@pop.globaldialog.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"BBBJ31.0.Ny4.7HOVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Yes, the album called 'Home' is incredible. Three piece guitar / bass / drums, Caspar plays a howling, gnawing, grinding, sawing, shrieking, tortured guitar. Lovely. > And finally, Caspar Brotzmann. Check out "Massaker". Very, very loud and scary! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 18:24:34 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA25474; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:24:34 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:24:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101be2c61$0aa09ae0$add43dc3@termosifone> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:12:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Boulder Lollapaloopa Resent-Message-ID: <"E1mfW2.0.ND5.BJOVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com OK, it seems like there really would be some interest in a Loop Jam in Boulder, so anyone who would want to do this, email me directly and I'll see what I can do. Let me know when a good time to come to town would be. It would be good to know what kind of stuff you do and what kind of gear you have (roughly, I don't need a blow by blow account) so I can ascertain the correct venue. Preferable to me is to be able to do it fairly quietly so that we can do it at Penny Lane, which can get a good crowd that is very receptive to listening. If it seems like it will be loud, we'll have to go to a larger alcohol based venue that will probably be less fun and less forgiving of weirdness, although the West End Tavern might be a good bet. Income will probably be entirely based on tips that will probably mostly have to go to publicity, so if you need remuneration, bring product to sell. If we get really lucky and can create an aura of respectability, maybe I can convince Don Strasberg to give us a slot at the Fox Theatre. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 18:26:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA26329; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:26:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:26:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:07:42 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: speakers???? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"nZ15_3.0.GN4.1COVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/20/98 10:28:13 AM Central Standard Time, Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: << any ideas on inexpensive (and i stress this word) speakers >> There are some Yamaha home stereo speakers, whose product number escapes me, but they're bookshelf-size, three way speakers that go for about $100 a pair at places like Best Buy. They have great frequency response and will take quite a beating. Good luck. - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 18:31:56 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA28698; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:31:56 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:31:56 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <11833b6b.367d2223@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 16:04:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Edwin Hurwitz Subject: Re: speakers???? Cc: Nemoguitt@aol.com Resent-Message-ID: <"MFUNQ2.0.BD5.AJOVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >ola all.....i play my music through my stereo system.....my very old klh >speakers are falling apart.....any ideas on inexpensive (and i stress this >word) speakers.....i would like to get 4 so i can always play the "big >room"......also, some time ago there was some talk about the digitec "space >station" pedal.....is it worth looking at?.....i would like to wish you all a >very merry christmas.........and send a special thanks to kim for his >wonderful work for all of us...........michael I had this trouble with my old smaller Advents. The surrounds on the woofers completely s*** the bed. I was looking at over $100 to recone them until I discovered speakerkits.com. they sold me new surrounds for $15 and although I had some trepidation, it worked great. They also have some kits that involve components that are very close to some popular less expensive monitors, since they design and manufacture the woofer for this said monitor. When I save up come $$$, I will be trying out one of their kits. They also have manufactured speakers for Eugene OR sites, such as club PAs, university installations, etc and the prices are great! Kenneth was very helpful. Edwin Edwin Hurwitz Boulder CO http://www.indra.com/~edwin From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 18:41:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA32503; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:41:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:41:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Fmplautus@aol.com Message-ID: <4f0bedde.367d88c3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:31:15 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Boulder Lollapaloopa Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 249 Resent-Message-ID: <"nmmr-.0.Gr6.8YOVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have always wanted to see Boulder in June. Best, Kevin PS: Equipment would be Echoplex and guitar. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 19:08:05 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA10927; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:08:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:08:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367CF388.78A2@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 12:54:32 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pollow@aa.net CC: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: cgdaeg tuning References: <367D5C18.1960@aa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"56iM_2.0.PE1.-tOVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com howdy loopy: Try a .7 or .8 on the 1st string. Try this tuning CGDAEE, the 1st and 2nd strings in unison. Play around with this a while, it's a lot of fun. When you tire of this, slowly but surely tune the 1st string to the G. Enjoy the wierd tunings on the way up :CGDAEF,and CGDAEF#. Note in these tunings, the last four strings are exactly the same tuning as standard cello tuning. Enjoy! Colin Jenkinson|nosnikneJ niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 19:10:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA11996; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:10:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:10:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:48:59 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: speakers???? Resent-Message-ID: <"55_4E2.0.ZV.OnOVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >In a message dated 12/20/98 10:28:13 AM Central Standard Time, >Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: > ><< any ideas on inexpensive (and i stress this > word) speakers >> > This may fall outside of the inexpensive catagory... but I was wondering if anyone has listened to the Infinity Studio Monitor series of speakers. **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com ** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 20:05:57 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA04260; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:05:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:05:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 01:59:16 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: PMC 10 editor? To: Loopers Delight Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <367D9D64.7E48@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"U47Vo1.0.fD.rqPVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com As I believe some of you use a Digitech PMC 10 to control your loop rigs I was wondering if anyone out there has an alternative to the handheld programmer (i.e. a software editor?). The Buttons on mine seem to be on their way out - besides, I've always found using it somewhat tedious... Thanks for your help! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 20:08:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA05734; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:08:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:08:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:02:04 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jimarnt@mail.interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: jimarnt@interlog.com (Jim Arnott) Subject: Bob Sellon Resent-Message-ID: <"CNR731.0.ST.vsPVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This may be out of date, but Bob repaired my EH 16 sec delay back in 1994. I reached him through the following address which, I think, I got out of a Guitar Player Article. By the way, I remember him not being too thrilled when I called him to find out if he'd be willing/able to try fixing my delay. Maybe he doesn't want to be contacted. Lexicon, Inc., c/o Bob Sellon 100 Beaver St., Waltham, MA02154 508-670-6098 Hope this helps -j From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 20:48:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA22041; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:48:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:48:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981220194034.007b57e0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:40:34 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Music suggestions? In-Reply-To: <52b4cf93.367cbe85@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"lMx3B2.0.Ka4.0SQVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I have to give the thumbs up for Massaker! Even thought I started this thread, I have to say that he's one of my favorite guitarists. Speaking of him, have you heard if he's got anything new coming out anytime soon? Jeff McLeod At 04:08 AM 12/20/98 EST, you wrote: > > Jeff, 12/20 > Check out Death Cube K. It's actually Buckethead, but ambient > strrangeness instead of his normal psycho-shred. Heck, check > out all of his stuff! Very bizzarre, and cool. Blind Idiot God is > a cool band from N.Y. Very noisy instrumental stuff. And finally, > Caspar Brotzmann. Check out "Massaker". Very, very loud > and scary! > Chris Olden > > __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 20:55:15 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA24846; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:55:15 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:55:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981220194902.007c6100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:49:02 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Music suggestions? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.19981220005325.007a0810@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wS89_.0.KR5.xZQVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com T hanks to all for their music suggestions! Here are a few from me to all of you: Hovercraft - Experiment Below (Seattle-based band who sound like the end of the world. Improv-oriented and LOUD...) Nels Cline/Thurston Moore - Pillow Wand (Nels Cline--of The Geraldine Fibbers and Nels Cline Trio, ect.--and Thurston Moore--of Sonic Youth--team up to make beautiful and spooky layers of guitar music. A dream/nightmare soundtrack. I'd also recommend anything that Nels Cline plays on. Here are a few choice ones: The Geraldine Fibbers - Butch Nels Cline Trio - Chest, Ground and Sad (3 different albums) Nels Cline/Devin Sarno - Edible Flowers (bass and guitar rumble and grind--sure to shake your neighbors out of bed, if you have it cranked on a sub-woofer system...) Thanks again, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 21:17:36 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA01124; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:17:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:17:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Subject: Re: cgdaeg tuning Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 02:16:09 -0000 x-sender: pwdu@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Martin Shellard To: "Loopers Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: <"AnJw-3.0.Ub7.7uQVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >I was just wondering since aparently there are other players tuning >to fifths and tuning a high E string to G if there is a string size >that wont break as easily to tune up to G. A standard 0.09" should take a G tuning but if they are breaking try a 0.08" or a 0.085 if you can find one. You get a tradeoff between tension and strength but it should work ok. Bear in mind that Fripp uses a Gibson scale length guitar (24 3/4") so if you use Fender scale (25 1/2") the string tension will be greater you will be more likely to break strings. Martin Shellard From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 20 21:33:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA07631; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:33:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:33:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:25:38 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: cgdaeg tuning Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Casablanca - Windows sub 120 Resent-Message-ID: <"fFPsn3.0._11.f5RVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/20/98 9:19:16 PM EST, martins@pwdu.demon.co.uk writes: > >I was just wondering since aparently there are other players tuning > >to fifths and tuning a high E string to G if there is a string size > >that wont break as easily to tune up to G. > > > A standard 0.09" should take a G tuning but if they are breaking try a > 0.08" or a 0.085 if you can find one. You get a tradeoff between tension > and strength but it should work ok. Bear in mind that Fripp uses a Gibson > scale length guitar (24 3/4") so if you use Fender scale (25 1/2") the > string tension will be greater you will be more likely to break strings. > > > > Martin Shellard > Marting, Ive been using that tuning for about 2-3 years now. The gauges that ive come to use are .009 .010 .016 .026 .038 .052 thats tight for a looser feel .009 .009 .013 .026 .026 .048 i woudnt go to an .008 at all its too tinny any one else out there using this tuning? i thought i was the only one(aside from the craft) Rodrigo Kriist@Aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 02:17:32 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA22273; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 02:17:32 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 02:17:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: kflint@pop.slip.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <367D9D64.7E48@stud.unibas.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:09:34 -0800 To: Loopers Delight From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: PMC 10 editor? Resent-Message-ID: <"WIS-c1.0.Zf4.aFVVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 4:59 PM -0800 12/20/98, Mark Kunzmann wrote: >As I believe some of you use a Digitech PMC 10 to control your loop rigs >I was wondering if anyone out there has an alternative to the handheld >programmer (i.e. a software editor?). The Buttons on mine seem to be on >their way out - besides, I've always found using it somewhat tedious... oooh, me too, me too! If anybody knows an editor, do tell. If anyone wants to program an editor, I'm willing to buy a copy even. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 02:53:54 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA04594; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 02:53:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 02:53:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <367CF98E.6E58@earthlink.net> References: <004b01be2ac4$ca5e8020$d5b24acf@mesla> <367B9B9D.73B6E282@play-live.com> <367C66A0.6ED9B1E9@play-live.com> <367D208E.459F4415@play-live.com> <367CFFDC.FAE8F74F@play-live.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:50:47 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: unsubscribe Resent-Message-ID: <"SO_pZ1.0.Qg.EsVVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 5:20 AM -0800 12/20/98, Colin Jenkinson wrote: >To unsubscribe from most of these majordomo lists, I believe you need >to send the message to majordomo@ari.net and in the body of the >message write unsubscribe [mail list name]. hmmmmm, well, lists are not necessarily run by the majordomo program, so you don't want to go assuming that. This one, for example, uses Smartlist. So majordomo commands won't work on the Looper's Delight list server. Also, "majordomo@ari.net" would only apply to lists running on a server at the ari.net domain. I have no idea what ari.net is, but it certainly has nothing to do with this list! In general, mailing lists are automated programs running on a server at the domain where they come from. You need to send proper commands to that server if you want it to do things like subscribing and unsubscribing. Usually there is a special address for that purpose. What you definitely don't want to do is send a post to the list with something like "please unsubscribe me from the list NOW!" because it is quite unlikely that you will accomplish much other than irritation and/or snickering among the other subscribers. In general, the best advice for unsubscribing from a mailing list is to save that set of instructions you got when you subscribed, and follow them when you want to leave! If you somehow "misplaced" those critical instructions that ask you not to "misplace" them, or if, say, an employee at your company somehow subscribes the tech support address by mistake and nobody knows where those instructions might be, then another approach is to go to the basic web page where the list is coming from and try to find the unsubscribe instructions there. In the case here that might be http://www.annihilist.com, where indeed you see a link for "Looper's Delight", the name of the list. Following that link, you see another page containing a link for "Mailing List Info" (http://www.annihilist.com/loop/list/LoopList.html), and low and behold, there you can find instructions for unsubscribing from the list! Or if that approach fails you, you could always send a private message to another subscriber politely asking if they might be able to remind you of the unsubscribe instructions. A little bit of patience and common sense, and you'll figure it out. And sorry for snideness, but ya know I just can't help it. ;-) kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 03:09:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA11118; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:09:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:09:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981220235300.01648de0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: sean_@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:53:00 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Sean Subject: Re: PMC 10 editor? In-Reply-To: References: <367D9D64.7E48@stud.unibas.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"xbiL-2.0.Bo.StVVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >At 4:59 PM -0800 12/20/98, Mark Kunzmann wrote: >As I believe some of you use a Digitech PMC 10 to control your loop rigs >I was wondering if anyone out there has an alternative to the handheld >programmer (i.e. a software editor?). The Buttons on mine seem to be on >their way out - besides, I've always found using it somewhat tedious... Even if someone could do an editor, you'd still need the handheld programmer. It's the only way to get what is in the PMC-10 out. I haven't seen a way to do a data dump without the programmer. I'm working (in my extremely rare spare time) on a librarian type app for the PMC-10 and seeing all the presets and the bank layouts on a computer screen is nice - even if it's readonly. sean From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 09:27:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA25579; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:27:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:27:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <367E5740.48F1@mdbs.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:12:16 -0500 From: "Dennis W. Leas" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? References: <52b4cf93.367cbe85@aol.com> <367CF195.7515@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"2fGwx.0.cM4.dNbVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Colin Jenkinson wrote: > Check out: > Skiny Puppy, Forrest for the Trees, and try Audio files of Joe > Frank(he's mostly spoken word but uses lots of loops). How/where can I find the Audio files of Joe Frank? This sounds interesting! - Dennis Leas -- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 11:00:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA27951; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:00:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:00:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812211533.HAA41516@scv4.apple.com> Subject: FS: PMC 10 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 09:35:36 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"VRFsj.0.Ph4.xicVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From Harmony Central, respond to the e-mail address at the bottom, not to me. The highly-praised PMC 10 foot controller: *************************************** Wahs, whammys, whims, and giggles Asking Price: US$450 Condition: Excellent Age: N/A Description: For Sale: 1. Vox Wah from late 60's or eraly 70's 2. 70's Thomas Organ wah 3. Digitech Whammy pedal 4. Digitech pmc 10 programmable midi foot controller with remote programmer all power supplies/ paperwork incl. $450...will not separate thanks, Brian Seller: Brian D'Souza, E-mail: ouijaesp@aol.com (Profile) Location: OTTAWA, IL Post Date: 12/18/98 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 11:35:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA07124; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:35:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:35:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367E75CD.5A971E55@uswest.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:22:37 -0700 From: "James Lanpheer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-USWC0720 (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? References: <367D3EDB.D5173B9D@stic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4fhCY2.0.rX.xLdVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anybody have the URL for the Forced Exposure website??? Thank, Jim Lanpheer James H. Sidlo wrote: > Keenan Lawler wrote: > > > At 12:53 AM 12/20/98 -0600, you wrote: > > Hi Jeff- > > > > > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just as > > >long as it has an edge of danger to it. I > > >Check out Frontier from Chicago.E.A.R.from UK..Robert Rich. Final (Justin > > from Godflesh)Have you heard any of the stuff Pauline Oliveros recorded in > > the Fort Worden cistern?Its amazing very ambient dark & beautiful -notable > > for natural decay time of the enviroment itself-45 secs!!Wow too many > > sounds to metion here.lotta music out there.. > > check out Forced Exposures website.Its very informative and > > full of great obscure -underground music KLAW > > > I most definately agree. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 11:56:25 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA26995; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:58:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:58:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812211541.HAA18166@scv1.apple.com> Subject: Fripp Soundscaping Setup Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 09:43:40 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"0uYTJ.0.nQ5.mpcVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com The new issue of Guitar Techniques, an English guitar mag, has an article on Robert Fripp's Soundscapes gear. For those of you who are interested, here's the signal path: Fernandes sustainer-equipped Les Paul copy with Roland six-way pickup: Roland VG-8, GR1 or GR30 Digitech Whammy Pedal TC electronics G-Force, split left and right into: two Roland GP-100's, left and right outs from each of those feed: one of four TC 2290's with 64 seconds sampling time the TC's go into one input of either a Eventide 3500 or 3000 the resulting four outs can then be either true quad or two stereo pairs. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 12:13:47 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA21232; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:13:47 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 12:13:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:56:07 +0000 Message-ID: <001C5371.1424@mail.bl.uk> From: David.Orton@mail.bl.uk (David Orton) Subject: Re: LD Digest V98 #251 - UK looping possibilities To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Gareth Whittock Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"3AVse3.0.gf3.YsdVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sure, why not! Global Village Productions, as its name suggests has been dealing mainly with musicians from the "world music" area - the Peking Brothers are the only ones I remember by name, but also musicians from Africa, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Latin America were featured. They - GVP - want to move into other areas too - broadly ambient from either end of that description. He already has one abstract/sound/noise group in mind (again the name escapes me) and I suppose I'm the other end, as you can tell from a quick scout around the sounds at . However, I just bought ACID Ph1 and have incorporated some of the world drum samples into a new-online-today sort of Rolf Harris meets Bing and Bowie uptown with Eno according to my wife. See what you think! And good luck with the Cardiff gig - nowhere near Splott, by any chance? Cheers David ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #251 Author: Gareth Whittock at Internet Date: 20/12/98 18:33 What sort of music are we talking about here? My own is a sort of tribal ambience using extended guitar techniques, (hey that sounds good doesn't it)? By the way, I'll be doing a spot at the diggers gig at the end of January at the Chapter Arts Centre in Cardiff using a Zoom 8080, a strat and poss a slide guitar also possibly some live computer processing using AudioMulch, (which incidentally nobody's reponded to my announcement of- Strange!). Loops akimbo! Gareth > And spreading good will throughout the UK - a few of you may recall my > gig at the British Library's new(ish) building at St. Pancras, here in > London, UK. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 13:15:04 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA09233; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:15:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:15:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paul.C.Wright@ercgroup.com Message-ID: To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: Music suggestions? Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:07:34 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <"1NdKK2.0.5t7._YeVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com http://www.fe.org/ -----Original Message----- From: James Lanpheer [mailto:jlanphe@uswest.com] Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 10:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Does anybody have the URL for the Forced Exposure website??? Thank, Jim Lanpheer James H. Sidlo wrote: > Keenan Lawler wrote: > > > At 12:53 AM 12/20/98 -0600, you wrote: > > Hi Jeff- > > > > > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just as > > >long as it has an edge of danger to it. I > > >Check out Frontier from Chicago.E.A.R.from UK..Robert Rich. Final (Justin > > from Godflesh)Have you heard any of the stuff Pauline Oliveros recorded in > > the Fort Worden cistern?Its amazing very ambient dark & beautiful -notable > > for natural decay time of the enviroment itself-45 secs!!Wow too many > > sounds to metion here.lotta music out there.. > > check out Forced Exposures website.Its very informative and > > full of great obscure -underground music KLAW > > > I most definately agree. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 13:40:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA16986; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:40:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:40:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981220194902.007c6100@pop.mindspring.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19981220005325.007a0810@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:24:55 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Resent-Message-ID: <"-YANn2.0.KN3.AAfVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 5:49 PM -0800 12/20/98, Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > I'd also recommend anything that Nels Cline plays on. Here are a few >choice ones: [excellent suggestions deleted] As long as we're gushing over Nels, let me reccomend "Yo, Miles" from Henry Kaiser and Wadada Leo Smith. Nels does some great work on this set, including some very cool 16-Second Delay stuff. Note that this is not an unbiased plug; I co-produced and played on this disk. Chris _____________________________________________________ Chris Muir | The Web Comes Alive With Music: cbm@headspace.com | http://www.headspace.com/beatnik From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 14:25:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA27137; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:25:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:25:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: KRosser414@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:07:55 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: High "G" string Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: <"8UdRC2.0.Sf5.fnfVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 98-12-21 03:16:10 EST, you write: << >I was just wondering since aparently there are other players tuning >to fifths and tuning a high E string to G if there is a string size >that wont break as easily to tune up to G. A standard 0.09" should take a G tuning but if they are breaking try a 0.08" or a 0.085 if you can find one. You get a tradeoff between tension and strength but it should work ok. Bear in mind that Fripp uses a Gibson scale length guitar (24 3/4") so if you use Fender scale (25 1/2") the string tension will be greater you will be more likely to break strings. >> A standard issue light-gauge set for electric 12 string uses 0.08 for the octave-higher G string, so it seems like that would take it. Even still, many 12-string sets will give you two of those 0.08's, obviously because they're still pretty easy to break. Ken R From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 14:29:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA28195; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:29:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:29:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367E4C39.6FAC@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:25:13 +0000 From: Colin Jenkinson Reply-To: jeancolin@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? References: <52b4cf93.367cbe85@aol.com> <367CF195.7515@earthlink.net> <367E5740.48F1@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"HyFFZ3.0.8a5.FmfVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try this address for Joe Frank stuff: www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~rafter/joefrank Colin Jenkinson|nonikneJ niloC From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 14:52:41 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA03997; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:52:41 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:52:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:20:33 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Multiple Loops question In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981218225411.00d95790@pop.chromatic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"7dtIs1.0.YM6.vyfVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I stand corrected. Thanks Kim! Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 14:59:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA06432; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:59:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:59:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:41:25 -0500 (EST) From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Music suggestions? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981220005325.007a0810@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"zy7zC2.0.pu7.OGgVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com You must check out Bethany Curve and SubArachnoid Space. There are samples of them at http://www.amz.com/labels/UnitCircle/listen.html yes, it's my label, but I think it's a good suggestion anyways. Kevin Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 14:56:36 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA05388; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:56:36 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:56:36 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <005b01be2d19$d9b36e80$3c4a8581@jkudler.stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:41:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"fixAp3.0.Fn7.IFgVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Funny. I've been using www.forcedexposure.com , which is apparently the exact same pages. -Jesse -----Original Message----- From: Paul.C.Wright@ercgroup.com To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 1:32 PM Subject: RE: Music suggestions? >http://www.fe.org/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: James Lanpheer [mailto:jlanphe@uswest.com] >Sent: Monday, December 21, 1998 10:23 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: Re: Music suggestions? > > >Does anybody have the URL for the Forced Exposure website??? > >Thank, >Jim Lanpheer > >James H. Sidlo wrote: > >> Keenan Lawler wrote: >> >> > At 12:53 AM 12/20/98 -0600, you wrote: >> > Hi Jeff- >> > >> > > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even >ambient--just as >> > >long as it has an edge of danger to it. I >> > >Check out Frontier from Chicago.E.A.R.from UK..Robert Rich. Final >(Justin >> > from Godflesh)Have you heard any of the stuff Pauline Oliveros recorded >in >> > the Fort Worden cistern?Its amazing very ambient dark & beautiful >-notable >> > for natural decay time of the enviroment itself-45 secs!!Wow too many >> > sounds to metion here.lotta music out there.. >> > check out Forced Exposures website.Its very informative >and >> > full of great obscure -underground music KLAW >> > > I most definately agree. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 15:14:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA11725; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:14:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:14:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812211952.LAA09724@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Looping gear, sustainer guitar FS Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 13:53:58 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"SSxkk2.0.IZ1.aYgVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I culled these from Harmony Central--contact the e-mail address listed in the ad, not me. Also included is an ad for a systainer equipped guitar, a frequent topic of conversation on this list. Travis Hartnett ****************************** Roland Chorus Echo RE-301 $300 Asking Price: US$300 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: For sale Roland Chorus echo RE-301 vintage tape delay excellent working and cosmetic condition $300 email to beatyboy@aol.com Seller: Chris Beaty, 304.525.0232 E-mail: beatyboy@aol.com (Profile) Location: HUNTINGTON, WV FS/T: Guitar, Amps, Speakers Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Good Age: N/A Description: Guitar: ASI Sustainiac guitar w/infinite sustain pickups $300 Amps: Fender "85" amp, excellent cond. $250 Peavey Classic 30, new Sovtec tubes plus a set of spares, excellent cond. $300 Speakers: 2 EV 12" white back SRO's, 8 ohm, original cones w/tech sheet $200 ea 1 EV 12" white back SRO, 8 ohm, original (repaired) cone $125 1 EV 15" SRO, 8 ohm, original cone, missing magnet cover, w/tech sheet $150 1 Yamaha 15", 8 ohm, new $75 Seller: Phil Diem, E-mail: pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Profile) Location: ANN ARBOR, MI Post Date: 12/18/98 Post Date: 12/21/98 **************************** Lexicon JamMan Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: Lexicon JamMan Sampler 8 second upgradable to 32 seconds with manual and non origional power supply. Very good condition. $435.00 Plus shipping Seller: Donald Dillon, (210)674-0868 E-mail: donray@flash.net (Profile) Location: SAN ANTONIO, TX Post Date: 12/20/98 *************************** effects... Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Excellent Age: N/A Description: Lexicon Vortex, multi effects, $190; Digitech TSR 24S, multi effects w/ 2nd processor/ memory, $490; Digitech HotBox, distortion/delay, $45; Digitech Time Machine, 8second digital delay, $195. phone:703-734-0110 or email:faybe@aol.com Seller: ollo ollo, 703-734-0110 E-mail: faybe@aol.com (Profile) Location: MC LEAN, VA Post Date: 12/18/98 *************************** FS/T: Effects, Mixers Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Excellent Age: N/A Description: Effects: Digitech RDS 8000 8 sec sample/delay $275 Digitech IPS 33b harmonizer/pitchshifter w/manual & remote $250 Hush IIcx two channel noise reduction w/manual $125 Mixers: Tascam MM1 keyboard mixer, 20 channel, midi, w/manual and power supply, $250 Biamp 12 Channel Board w/manual. Good inexpensive PA board $125 Seller: Phil Diem, E-mail: pdiem@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu (Profile) Location: ANN ARBOR, MI Post Date: 12/18/98 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 16:40:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA11514; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:40:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:40:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001401be2d28$a6b6eb60$3c4a8581@jkudler.stu.wesleyan.edu> From: "Jesse Kudler" To: Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:27:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"IJIL63.0.1O1.bohVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I should also recommend the Bill Horist cd, also on Unit Circle. I wasn't crazy about Bill's live show at the time, and it took me a while to get into the CD, but I really like it now. Prepared guitar with a bunch of effects (I think he had a Jamman, and a pedal detuner was used prominently live) making totally alien sounds. Some is fairly low key ambient, some is more noisy. Sounds like mostly improv, with little discernible structure, but the cd doesn't sound aimless, which was my main criticism of the live show. I'm probably not doing a great job describing the disc, but it's hard. It's basically solo guitar that sounds more like a synth and percussion ignoring traditional rules of music, which were useless anyway. The cd also includes several duets which are very fine as well. http://www.amz.com/labels/UnitCircle/releases/tUC045.html has a bunch of info, and I'm sure Kevin does as well. -Jesse -----Original Message----- From: Unit Circle Media To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Music suggestions? >You must check out Bethany Curve and SubArachnoid Space. There are >samples of them at http://www.amz.com/labels/UnitCircle/listen.html > >yes, it's my label, but I think it's a good suggestion anyways. > > Kevin > > >Kevin Goldsmith kevin@unitcircle.com >Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 16:49:51 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA14935; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:49:51 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:49:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE2D31.668D3450.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers Delight'" Subject: what is a spectrum follower? Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:15:07 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"hgCHe1.0.Ar1.PthVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Who knows what a spectrum follower does, where one can get one, and how expensive it is? Apparently such a device was extensively used by Wendy Carlos in the early seventies, as can be read in the liner notes of the awesome Clockwork Orange rerelease. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music: http://listen.to/michaelpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 16:50:38 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA15204; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:50:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:50:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:37:37 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Yo Miles is Great!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"kKvZ01.0.sV2.qzhVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Totally dig yo miles. fun and funky. check it out. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 17:08:49 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA21688; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:08:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:08:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:52:24 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: tap tempo drum machines Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Windows AOL sub 171 Resent-Message-ID: <"U0k_L2.0.bp3.fBiVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 17/12/98 22:57:39 GMT, you write: << >You can slave your drum machine to your jamen. Then when you tap in your >loop, at the second tap the drumbox will start playing in sync. You may have >to adjust your drum boxs midi assignment. >> And doing it this way round cuts out the glitch at the beginning/end of the loop From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 18:32:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA20849; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:58:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 13:58:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:29:59 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: Re: PMC 10 editor? To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <367E93A7.A0D@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <367D9D64.7E48@stud.unibas.ch> <3.0.5.32.19981220235300.01648de0@pop.mindspring.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"SP3yC2.0.XY3.0EfVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > I'm working (in my extremely rare spare time) on a librarian type app for > the PMC-10 and seeing all the presets and the bank layouts on a computer > screen is nice - even if it's readonly. Hi Sean! The app you're working on sounds interesting. - Would you be willing to share it with us? Would be glad to reimburse you for your efforts. Also, (and I don't mean to be pushy here :-) do you see it maybe becoming a true patch editor sometime in the future? I guess one would have to use the programmer to initiate patch/bulk dumps, still, that would mean only one 'operation' as opposed to the procedure of keying in command after command - Thanks - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 18:53:04 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA23269; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:53:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 18:53:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199812212343.PAA25680@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Loop Sighing: Leni Stern To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:43:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: from "Chris Muir" at Dec 21, 98 10:24:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"btoka1.0.jY4.ZpjVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I managed to catch Leni Stern on tour (she miraculously decided to make a stop in San Diego). Her setup was fairly simple; just her Strat, Matchless amp (a 1x12), a JamMan, volume pedal, and another little effects box. She is unusual, for a guitarist, in that she uses a wide dynamic range (the guitarist stereotype being that the guitarist only plays in one range - LOUD :)), ranging from very soft to loud enough to be clearly heard over the drummer and bass player. Thus it was hard to tell if she was using the Jam Man for anything other than delay effects. There was however one tune that began with clearly looped intro, but even then she kept the looper's volume level fairly low. I had heard that her teachers were her esteemed husband Mike (aka "Fat Time") and Bill Frisell. I heard more of Frisell's influence (and thus, indirectly the influence of Jim Hall) in her melodic style which made effective use of silence. She was billed as a jazz act, but threw in a generous helping of vocal numbers. My buddy said her pop/vocal tunes reminded him of Sting, post-Police. :) Cheers, Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 20:18:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA26481; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:18:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:18:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199812220108.RAA25911@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: Loop Sighing: Leni Stern To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:08:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <199812212343.PAA25680@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> from "Paolo Valladolid" at Dec 21, 98 03:43:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_76t23.0.5I5.F3lVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Oops, I meant "Sighting", not "Sighing"... Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 20:26:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA29565; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:26:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:26:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367EF323.3C28@ghg.net> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 19:17:23 -0600 From: altemir Reply-To: altemir@ghg.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Low Price on Echoplex Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"MVfH.0.aF6.uBlVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Does anyone know of a reputable dealer that can beat $699 on an Echoplex Digital Pro? P.S. Please reply directly by E-mail as I do not subscribe to the list. Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 20:28:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA30416; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:28:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:28:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367EF2A2.2CC03BB5@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 02:15:14 +0100 From: Claude Voit Reply-To: c.voit@vtx.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-US,fr-BE,en-GB,af MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: PMC 10 editor? References: <367D9D64.7E48@stud.unibas.ch> <3.0.5.32.19981220235300.01648de0@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jb9sc3.0.316.6AlVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sean wrote: > I'm working (in my extremely rare spare time) on a librarian type app for > the PMC-10 and seeing all the presets and the bank layouts on a computer > screen is nice - even if it's readonly. Sean sorry for the bandwidth but me too me too I'm also ready to spend some money on your project Please keep us informed Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 20:40:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA03116; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:40:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:40:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981222013200.26966.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [171.133.216.5] From: "wayne schroeder" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #254 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:31:59 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"b6SF03.0.Qk7.IPlVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 00:16:00 1998 >Received: from [209.239.39.1] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail30916809584201235065324693522111233146050; Mon Dec 21 00:16:00 1998 >Received: (from root@localhost) > by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) > id DAA11385; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:10:36 -0500 >Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:10:36 -0500 >From: Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com >Message-Id: <199812210810.DAA11385@rosy.yourwebhost.com> >Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #254 >X-Loop: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com >X-Mailing-List: archive/volume98/254 >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" >To: Loopers-Delight-d@annihilist.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > >Content-Type: text/plain > Dear Kim, is there something wrong with the Loopers Delight transmission? I'm just getting the letterhead top portion, but not the body of the list and correspondences... What gives? Wayne ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 22:20:57 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA12817; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:20:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:20:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:00:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199812220300.WAA17436@sleepy.ebtech.net> X-Sender: stevens@mail.ebtech.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: stevens@ebtech.net (Jane/Mike Stevens) Subject: f/s TC elctronics G force X-Mailer: Resent-Message-ID: <"vf3Li.0.VX1.onmVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For sale TC electronics G force. New condition . $1150. U.S funds. email or ph/fax 519-869-8175 Thankyou Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 21 22:35:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA18798; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:35:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:35:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <4.1.19981221222916.00923cf0@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: floyd@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 22:30:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: f/s TC elctronics G force In-Reply-To: <199812220300.WAA17436@sleepy.ebtech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"kyjVo1.0.bh3.b5nVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:00 PM 12/21/98 -0500, you wrote: >For sale TC electronics G force. New condition . $1150. U.S funds. > email or ph/fax 519-869-8175 > Thankyou Mike > I've been thinking about getting one of those and I'm interested. But I've never heard on of them. I'm curious as to why you are seeling it. **************** ********** Floyd Miller ****** floyd@voicenet.com ** http://www.voicenet.com/~floyd From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 03:38:19 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA07263; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:38:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:38:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <367EDBA4.37A71DA4@Buddhas.de> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:37:09 +0100 Reply-To: Manfred@Buddhas.de Organization: The Buddhas X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [de]C-NECCK (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Bob Sellon References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 320024095934-0001@t-online.de From: Manfred_Bohnhoff@t-online.de (Manfred Bohnhoff) Resent-Message-ID: <"gvo6S2.0.Jx.gXrVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thank you, loopers, for your suggestions. I was finally able to place an email that was at least not instantly rejected by some "Mailer System". I´ll keep you all informed....:-))) just kidding! Manfred From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 05:29:31 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA18301; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:29:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 05:29:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <367F73FB.76FB95F4@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:27:09 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Trick (bad one) of the day References: <199812180805.DAA29883@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <"O6_EZ.0.Sg3.GAtVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For a few days I've notived that regardless of the level of the input, my loop in the Jamman were severely distorted. This phenomena occured suddenly, in a configuration I as using for months without problem. The thing is I found were the problem was, and it is surprising as well as limiting my future plans. Let me tell you what I found. I bought recently two electro static microphones: two Audio technica 3528. I had only a few cheap Sure's, and wanting to expand to (still cheap) electrostatiic ones. So the two AT are plugged in my Mackie CR 16 04, as well as the outputs of the vortex, in whic the Jamdude in injected. It appears that when the phantom power is turned on, the loops get distorted (?!?!), and everythiçng comes back to normal when the phantom power is off. I don't know how this can occur. I even fear that this effect of the phantom power may mean possible damage to the Vortex and Jamman. If any knowledgable peole here have any idea... Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 06:25:54 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA05660; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 06:25:54 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 06:25:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <367F7F3E.BB1C6018@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:15:13 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:fifth tuning References: <199812210807.DAA09947@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JSZH12.0.s3.NttVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I play with a fifth tuned guitar among others, and in fact the high "E" string is G#. I tried lot of brands of strings, different alloys, different origins (even harpsichord strings that use a different metal: american steel is known to be of poor quality, while harpsichord string string are made of a greman steel). In the end. Dean Markley string were the best suiting. I use a .008. I tune it carefully in several times, and can bend it one half tone. They usually resist until next string change. Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 06:46:39 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id GAA12385; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 06:46:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 06:46:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: simon@mail.dynamite.com.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:32:11 +1000 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Simon Subject: Vintage Maestro Echoplex model info? Resent-Message-ID: <"FFMiW3.0.mJ2.tHuVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I'm am going to buy a vintage Maestro Echoplex soon, I am wondering if there is a web page with information on what models were released, what the advantages/disadvantages of particular models are, and what models are most desirable? Also, a guide to what each model should cost, and any problems to look out, for would also be helpful. I was going to find a tube model, I've heard that these have a 'fatter' sound. It would be most appreciated if someone could point me in the direction of this info, or take a little time to share what you know of these older Echoplex boxes. Thanks Simon Canberra AUSTRALIA From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 08:48:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id IAA29356; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:48:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:48:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:42:10 +0000 Message-ID: <001C5DA6.1424@mail.bl.uk> From: David.Orton@mail.bl.uk (David Orton) Subject: Re: Loop Sighing: Leni Stern To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"JZVdT1.0.iT6.46wVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Paolo mentioned: > I heard more of Frisell's influence (and thus, indirectly the influence > of Jim Hall) in her melodic style which made effective use of silence. True enough, and don't forget that Bill played on her debut LP, featured particularly on "Stella by Starlight" and (I think) "Blue Monk". Cheers David From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 10:57:22 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA17363; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:57:22 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:57:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <367FC150.9CF60C31@vete.ucl.ac.be> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:57:07 +0100 From: Malhomme Reply-To: malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jam man sync References: <199812220805.DAA27320@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"DdeWL1.0.cb3.a_xVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I need info. Sorry to bother. I've lost (?!) my Jam man manual, and I'd like to sync it to a midi click coming from Cubase. How should I do that??? Thanks in advance. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 11:33:13 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA32549; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:33:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:33:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:24:37 -0500 From: Alessandro Ricciarelli Subject: Re: unsubscribe Sender: Alessandro Ricciarelli To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199812221124_MC2-6473-F919@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"L7RFe3.0.Yx6.6UyVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Please unsubscribe. Thank You and merry Christmas From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 13:23:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA14499; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:23:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:23:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981222181426.0075416c@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:14:26 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/FreeForm.mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"8aJsr3.0.id2.46-Vs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hy guys ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/FreeForm.mp3 Not a real song but some experimental stuff with a A3000 and a PC. Heavy breakbeat programming at 170 bpm. Only 1.7M long. Suggestions and comments are welcome. ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 16:57:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA06873; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:57:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:57:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001801be2df5$8b7216e0$b6d43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: Subject: R: EDP mailorder Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:53:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"swODH.0.fl.HE1Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >In fact, call them to find a good dealer: 877-OBERHEIM (877-623-7434) or >obie@gibson.com. they're quite helpful. > >kim also the telephone number doesn't work. Any idea? How to contact Oberheim? Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 17:26:26 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA20166; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:26:26 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:26:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981222221741.00e495ec@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:17:41 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: R: EDP mailorder Resent-Message-ID: <"ge_o41.0.ok3.Gf1Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:53 PM 12/22/98 +0100, you wrote: > >>In fact, call them to find a good dealer: 877-OBERHEIM (877-623-7434) or >>obie@gibson.com. they're quite helpful. >> >>kim > > >also the telephone number doesn't work. oops, that's a toll-free number that would only work in the US. I don't have the regular number with me, maybe somebody else knows it. >Any idea? >How to contact Oberheim? Did you try Mike Ayers, mayers@gibson.com? He's Oberheim tech support, he should be able to help you. kim ________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS 408-752-9284 ATI Research kflint@chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 17:56:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA00106; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:56:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:56:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981222185322.00ff3190@brooknorth.com> X-Sender: howard@brooknorth.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:53:22 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Howard Harawitz Subject: Re: re:reverb/delay units In-Reply-To: <98929f0a.367bb157@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"wG6ii.0.mC7.I62Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I just got one of those Lexicon MP100's. It sounds good and the price is right -- even in ever-devaluating C$! At 08:59 AM 12/19/98 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 12/19/98 8:56:24 AM, Trisstine@aol.com writes: > >< now looking to update my reverb/delay units.(2 older Alesis > Quadraverbs) Are there any units out there that are live-use > friendly(i.e. easily adjustable w/o using midi), as well as > producing excellent reverbs?>> > >Lexicon MXP100 (!) > > >Marshall > > ========================================================== Howard Harawitz howard@brooknorth.com ========================================================== Brooklyn North Software Works Inc. Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Telephone: 1-902-423-0257 ========================================================== Check the Halifax Harbor Cam: http://www.brooknorth.com/camsite/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 17:57:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA00850; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:57:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:57:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003e01be2dfe$4df99d20$b6d43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: "Loop" Subject: How to contact Oberheim Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:31:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"gaL711.0.mX7.492Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've called Gibson at 615 8714 500 and they given me 615 8714 382 to contact Oberheim (Michael Ayers), I listened his answering machine :-) I haven't understand a lot about changing numbers when you call from Europe to Usa. Does something change when I call from Italy? Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 18:00:30 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA02265; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:00:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:00:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <003f01be2dfe$4fac7d40$b6d43dc3@termosifone> From: "Salvatore Passaro" To: "Loop" Subject: Marry Christmas Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:52:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"u3q0N.0.OY7.892Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Marry Christmas and happy new Loop :-) Salvatore From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 18:12:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA07405; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:12:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:12:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981222231020.24859.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:10:20 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Jones Subject: Re: Marry Christmas To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"Zc7G-3.0.WM1.eP2Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ---Salvatore Passaro wrote: > > Marry Christmas and happy new Loop :-) > > Salvatore > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 18:17:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA09350; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:17:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:17:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:06:49 -0800 Message-ID: <0016CE39.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re[3]: reverb/delay units To: Howard Harawitz , loopers-delight@annihilist.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"Sdv7B.0.Vo1.RT2Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just got one too! It's definitely more versatile than it's front panel would lead you to believe. Sounds great as well... will know more later as I get further into the unit. Price is awesomely right! It's about 1/8th the weight of my LXP15II as well... best, Miko ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: re:reverb/delay units Author: Howard Harawitz at INTERNET Date: 12/22/98 5:52 PM I just got one of those Lexicon MP100's. It sounds good and the price is right -- even in ever-devaluating C$! At 08:59 AM 12/19/98 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 12/19/98 8:56:24 AM, Trisstine@aol.com writes: > >< now looking to update my reverb/delay units.(2 older Alesis > Quadraverbs) Are there any units out there that are live-use > friendly(i.e. easily adjustable w/o using midi), as well as > producing excellent reverbs?>> > >Lexicon MXP100 (!) > > >Marshall > > ========================================================== Howard Harawitz howard@brooknorth.com ========================================================== Brooklyn North Software Works Inc. Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada Telephone: 1-902-423-0257 ========================================================== Check the Halifax Harbor Cam: http://www.brooknorth.com/camsite/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 18:21:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA11060; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:21:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:21:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Paolo Valladolid Message-Id: <199812222317.PAA29785@waynesworld.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: Loop Sighing: Leni Stern To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:17:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001C5DA6.1424@mail.bl.uk> from "David Orton" at Dec 22, 98 01:42:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"JKfz83.0.b82.KW2Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > Paolo mentioned: > > I heard more of Frisell's influence (and thus, indirectly the influence > > of Jim Hall) in her melodic style which made effective use of silence. > > True enough, and don't forget that Bill played on her debut LP, > featured particularly on "Stella by Starlight" and (I think) "Blue > Monk". > > Cheers > > David She was selling her CD _Recollection_ (a sort of greatest hits which includes some unreleased tracks) which includes a duet with Frisell on "Someday My Prince Will Come". There are two tracks which prominently feature looping. Paolo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 20:16:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA25223; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:16:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:16:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE2DE7.564F85A0@ds115.ix.netcom.com> From: John Celano To: "Loopers Delight (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Jam man sync Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:11:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"NZ_Z2.0.Jm5.pD4Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com To sync it to external source set the dial in phrased or punch to the = number of beats you want the loop to be. if the is receiving the clock = you should see the tempo light blinking. press tap to start recording, = again to stop, if you don't press the 2nd time it will automatically end = when the set number of beats is reached and start playing. Hope this = helps. =20 You can p/u a manual from lexicon=20 http://www.lexicon.com/support/homeframe.htm -----Original Message----- From: Malhomme [SMTP:malhomme@vete.ucl.ac.be] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 10:57 AM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Jam man sync I need info. Sorry to bother. I've lost (?!) my Jam man manual, and I'd like to sync it to a midi click coming from Cubase. How should I do that??? Thanks in advance. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 22 21:51:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA30473; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:51:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:51:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 03:44:40 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: EDP Mailorder To: Loopers Delight Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <36805918.95D@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"agLHc1.0.Bh6.iZ5Ws"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Just thought I'd let you know: I contacted Mike Ayers at Gibson who was very helpful indeed. He pointed me to http://www.tbred-music.com - They're selling EDPs for around $700 which seems a little more expensive than the prices that have been mentioned here in the past. Cheers - Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 04:29:17 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id EAA24094; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:29:17 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:29:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981222181426.0075416c@mail.dada.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 01:25:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/FreeForm.mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"xBqP53.0.9R5._QBWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 10:14 AM -0800 12/22/98, Leonardo Cavallo wrote: >Hy guys > >ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/FreeForm.mp3 >Not a real song but some experimental stuff with a A3000 and a PC. >Heavy breakbeat programming at 170 bpm. Only 1.7M long. >Suggestions and comments are welcome. what a nutty track! great! You're my new drum and bass god. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 05:17:57 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA10034; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:17:57 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:17:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PJBMHB@aol.com Message-ID: <5cacad5b.3680c1ca@aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:11:22 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Loop Sighing: Leni Stern Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Resent-Message-ID: <"151L21.0.wq1.q6CWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com black guitars is the leni cd that has the most looping. bill was on her 1st cd, which i think is one of her best. wayne krantz has also been on some of her cds and he is a great guitar player in his own right. =-) PJ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 09:59:03 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA15403; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:59:03 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:59:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981223143542.00756b00@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:35:42 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/FreeForm.mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"vylBF.0.Pm1.Q_FWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 01:25 23.12.98 -0800, you wrote: >At 10:14 AM -0800 12/22/98, Leonardo Cavallo wrote: >>Hy guys >> >>ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/FreeForm.mp3 >>Not a real song but some experimental stuff with a A3000 and a PC. >>Heavy breakbeat programming at 170 bpm. Only 1.7M long. >>Suggestions and comments are welcome. > >what a nutty track! great! You're my new drum and bass god. > ehhhh? ;) in the next hours I'm going to upload another experimental track, freeform2.mp3, to the same ftp directory. I'd like to point that these are only rough mixes and "first try" sequences. None of these trax is complete... but you can have a good idea where I'm now musically. One of the following steps should be to include live looping (I still play my bass and Stick through jamman and FX) and some jazz improvisation above it. thnx for the attention ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 09:59:23 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA15518; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:59:23 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:59:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812231443.GAA07596@magpie.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: Fifths tuning, string breakage Date: Wed, 23 Dec 98 08:46:31 +0100 x-sender: tiktok@pop.a001.sprintmail.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Tiktok Mobile HQ To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"FjU0M1.0.bL2.H5GWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use the Guitar Craft tuning (CGDAEG), and I use an .011 on the acoustic, and a .010 on the electric. I haven't had breakage problems on the high G. The A on the acoustic is the string most prone to breakage in my experience. When it does break, it always breaks at the tuning machine. I use Sperzel locking tuners on the electrics, which puts fewer turns around the post, which may contribute to longer string life for high-tuned strings. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 14:04:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA20266; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:04:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:04:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:20:13 +0100 From: Mark Kunzmann Subject: PMC10 BulkDump To: Loopers Delight Reply-to: kunmar00@stud.unibas.ch Message-id: <3681345D.26D9@stud.unibas.ch> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"Nf3pV3.0.c5.9HJWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear Loopers - Yesterday I lost all the patches in my PMC10, luckily though I'd transferred all data to my PC before this happened. Unfortunately I am having trouble sending this data back to the PMC. Is there anything in particular I have to do to put the PMC into 'SysEx receive mode'? Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Thanks - and a very merry Christmas to all! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 14:02:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA19582; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:02:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:02:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: Merry Merry, Everyone! Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:21:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01be2ea1$0367cfe0$ad32dacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199812231443.GAA07596@magpie.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <"6vZpU3.0.tF.DIJWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com A short note to wish everyone in and on this list, the best of holidays. May we all be with those close to us at this time, if not physically, than at least spiritually. Another short note, that I'll be releasing This Year's Free Song on the 24th; it's to be named "Fur or Feather", and will be posted tomorrow afternoon/evening for your enjoyment. In case one doesn't know, for the past 3 years I've been posting an annual piece, composed for the season, and made available for free charitable use. It'll be at http://www.earthlight.net/Studios by that time. Do drop in and say hello at least! Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 15:44:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA29736; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:44:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:44:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 11:49:24 -0800 Message-ID: <0016D946.C21407@wj.com> From: Mike.Biffle@wj.com (Mike Biffle) Subject: Re: Merry Merry, Everyone! To: , "Stephen P. Goodman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Resent-Message-ID: <"VtnFA3.0.bU2.FiKWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Best of the season to you all... I'll be away from my system for a while, so I'll be coming back to a full mailbox! A friend just gave me and E-mu Emax 1 to clear out his garage! It's really starting to feel like Christmas now... Are any of you out there Emax users? I'm starting from scratch and this is my first sampler so I could use any tips our resources you might offer. Best for the holidays, Miko Biffle From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 17:52:33 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA17842; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 17:52:33 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 17:52:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE2ECA.E868B400.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: Merry Merry, Everyone! Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 23:07:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jxAcq1.0.I61.GpMWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > A friend just gave me and E-mu Emax 1 to clear out his garage! It's > really starting to feel like Christmas now... Are any of you out there > Emax users? I'm starting from scratch and this is my first sampler so > I could use any tips our resources you might offer. I have an Emax 1 too. It has its limitations but it's a very nice box, I had lots of fun with it. First of all, be sure you can still find 720k disks somewhere. They are an endangered species I think. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * http://listen.to/michaelpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 18:03:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id SAA22237; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 18:03:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 18:03:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <25edf220.3681715a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 17:40:26 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Merry Merry, Everyone! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"aepjC2.0.o33.v4NWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Merry Christmas,Mike! Got the PMC-10 manual today. And I can't thank you enough. But I might be able to help you a liitle with your Emax. I have an Emax II, had it for several years and love it. Even though there are a lot more sophisticated samplers out there, (and I have a few), that ugly old Emax II is truly my first love when it comes to sampling. And the analog filters are great. After you played with your Emax awhile and you have still have questions, let me know...I owe you one, man. Thanks, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 19:18:39 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA22512; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:18:39 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:18:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <368183E3.4679@voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 18:59:31 -0500 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: analogue@hyperreal.org CC: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: New "Christmas" Album out... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"5pe_K1.0.ry4.fSOWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com NOTE: Promotion of a listmember's "music" follows. Skip if you'd like. My duo/band, Overdrive Date Master, has gotten into a bad habit of playing shows without instruments. We have our second annual holiday concert coming up jan 6, 1999 here in Phila, Pa (Upstairs at Nicks) and it's going to be a CD release party for our new album; "ODM: The Christmas Show". Last year we played a concert without any real instruments. We used two mono tube record players and a stack of the strangest records you can imagine (speeches, How-to albums, some music of all types) and mixed them all up at various speeds (8RPM to 78 RPM) with delays direct into some vintage fender amps. Occasionally there was some bizarro leads and fills from two analog monosynths getting the same amp/delay treatments and of course we filled it out with children's toys and out famous windup monkey, Binky. A CD of this concert was going to be released this Easter (A Christmas Album at Easter just seemed right) but due to popular demand (honest, people have been asking me for this thing!) it's available now for $10 including shipping in the US. Full info at: Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion/odmxmas.htm Many members on these lists have contributed ideas and support for this nonsense so I figured I'd let y'all know. Thanks for your time. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.voicenet.com/~legion "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 23 21:24:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA15126; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:24:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:24:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: DainL@AustinTX.net (Dain R. Luscombe) To: Subject: Re: Merry Merry, Everyone! Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 20:25:02 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19981224021719755.AAA273@sex.austintx.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"jVtwn2.0.0v2.RFQWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Lucky dog! I've been using an Emax for 8 years or so, The filters are rad and the arpeggiator is really cool. let me know if you have any questions. seeya dain ---------- > From: Mike Biffle > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; Stephen P. Goodman > Subject: Re: Merry Merry, Everyone! > Date: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 1:49 PM > > Best of the season to you all... I'll be away from my system for a > while, so I'll be coming back to a full mailbox! > > A friend just gave me and E-mu Emax 1 to clear out his garage! It's > really starting to feel like Christmas now... Are any of you out there > Emax users? I'm starting from scratch and this is my first sampler so > I could use any tips our resources you might offer. > > Best for the holidays, > Miko Biffle From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 24 10:59:27 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA04429; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:59:27 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 10:59:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: simon@mail.dynamite.com.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0016D946.C21407@wj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 02:48:25 +1000 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Simon Subject: Re: Merry Merry, Everyone! (Emulator resources) Cc: sgoodman@earthlight.net Resent-Message-ID: <"YKAia1.0.xX.AEcWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > A friend just gave me and E-mu Emax 1 to clear out his garage! It's > really starting to feel like Christmas now... Are any of you out there > Emax users? I'm starting from scratch and this is my first sampler so > I could use any tips our resources you might offer. > > Best for the holidays, > Miko Biffle A useful Emulator resource is the Emulator mailing list. Some info on the list follows.... Happy birthday to JC and seasons well wishes to all, Simon Canberra AUSTRALIA >************************************************************ >* * >* Welcome to the Emulator Station 1 Mailing List * >* -------------------------------------------------- * >* * >************************************************************ > >This mailing list is intended to let users discuss about >Emulator modules and Emulator samplers. > >The companion WWW Site is located at URL: http://emulator.wineasy.net > >We have no connection to Emu Systems Inc., >so please DON'T ask for actual product specs or prices. > >There are human beings reading your messages, so please act politely. > >Here's the mini faq: > >* Where do I post my messages to ? > >Post your messages to the list-address which is: emulator@listserver.winea= >sy.se > >* How can I unsubscribe ? > >Send a mail to majordomo@listserver.wineasy.se with the message: unsubscri= >be emulator >You don't need to fill in your address, if you are posting from the addres= >s you wish to remove. >If you get the response that is not subscribed to the emula= >tor list, then you should >check with which spelling of the mailing address you are subscribed. See "= >How can I see who is on the list ?" >to receive the subscriber-list and then try to send the unsubscribe mail w= >ith the correct spelled subscribed address. >If things still don't work, please do not send a message to the list! You = >shouldn't bother more than >100 people. Just send a mail to the list-administrator (emulator@wineasy.s= >e), ok ? > >* How can I subscribe ? > >Send a mail to majordomo@listserver.wineasy.se with the message: subscribe= > emulator >You don't need to fill in your address, if you are posting from the addres= >s you wish to add. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Thu Dec 24 14:09:52 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA15477; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:09:52 -0500 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:09:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981224190405.0076e428@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 20:04:05 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: ftp://ftp.teklab.com/teklab/incoming/Freeform2.mp3 Resent-Message-ID: <"tsI642.0.aD3.I0fWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com HI all I've just uploaded another little experimental track on Teklab Ftp site. freeform2.mp3, 140 bpm, 1.4 Mb. thnx for the attention ciao leo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Fri Dec 25 13:01:38 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA29654; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 13:01:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 13:01:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36836F1C.E1FD7E7D@boulder.quik.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:55:32 +0000 From: Jim Sincock Reply-To: lobo27@boulder.quik.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Boss SP-202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"udrQJ.0._36.U0zWs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I recently bought a Boss SP-202 Dr. Sampler and am wondering if anyone on the list has one and can help me with some questions. The main problem I am running into is I pick up a click in my loop when I hit the record button, or the marker. Sometimes I can get a clean loop with no click, but most of the time it is there. I am also picking up "line noise" when I record. This happens even when I have it running off of batteries and not plugged into the outlet. I have tried various input levels, but still get the noise, most of the time. Thanks in advance, Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 26 02:08:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA01377; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 02:08:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 02:08:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <000101be309d$095337c0$051cbfa8@0QHC6SIA> Reply-To: "Collins" From: "Collins" To: Subject: update to website Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 01:57:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Resent-Message-ID: <"9OCr82.0.RY7.2Z8Xs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello all, Jeff Collins here to let you know that the site which i run, (A Strange View of Music) has just been updated. Now all of you can look at my mug on your computers monitor. http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1429/STRANGETONES.html There are now a few pictures of the three of us. Soon there will be much more. Hope you come to the site often. Thank you all. Jeff Collins Note: The guitar in my hands is refretted to give 16 tones to the octave. It now has NO fingerboard, as i am trying to find a person to put either a Titanium or Stainless Steel board on it. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 26 09:25:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA31058; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 09:25:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 09:25:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3684F21E.81A23894@islandia.is> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 14:26:38 +0000 From: "Jón Hallur Haraldsson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: [Fwd: unsubscribe] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1C89BE283D05F1C17036F36F" Resent-Message-ID: <"cg-g43.0.pD7.Y3FXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1C89BE283D05F1C17036F36F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------1C89BE283D05F1C17036F36F Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from rosy.yourwebhost.com (rosy.yourwebhost.com [209.239.39.1]) by islandia.is (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05183 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:38:46 GMT Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA01504 for realx@islandia.is; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:37:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:37:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:24:37 -0500 From: Alessandro Ricciarelli Subject: Re: unsubscribe Sender: Alessandro Ricciarelli To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Message-ID: <199812221124_MC2-6473-F919@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"L7RFe3.0.Yx6.6UyVs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by islandia.is id QAA05183 Please unsubscribe. 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  --------------CC50B87DEF325C83DE6BCE04-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 26 11:46:19 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA18893; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:46:19 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:46:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: <7de23c10.36850f85@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:32:05 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Princeton Loops Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Resent-Message-ID: <"JNG5A1.0.z13.qzGXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat. Jan. 9 at 7:30 p.m. Paul Mimlitsch ("tapped strings"/Live Loops) with percussionist Jody Janetta The Arts Council of Princeton, upstairs, Witherspoon Street, downtown Princeton, N.J. tickets are $10 at the door, $5 in advance for tickets or directions contact the Arts Council (609) 924-8777 (If the volunteer answering the phone can't answer your question, ask for Mark.) Advance tickets also available directly from Carlton at 457 Whittaker Ave., Trenton This recital will be the second in a four-part series scheduled for the second Saturday of each month at the Arts Council and featuring some of the recent solo music and collaborative works of composer Carlton Wilkinson. Some of the recordings made during this series will be used on an upcoming IMMP release. There's a heavy emphasis on technology in many of these works, as an extension of solo playing. The recital in November featured Sabrina Berger on electric 5-string violin, playing Key West, Libra and the premiere of My Undoing, for 5-string violin and accompanying soundfiles. It was a great performance, with real good attendance. Upcoming: Jan. 9--Paul Mimlitsch, "tapped strings"/loops with Jody Janetta, percussion Feb. 13--Wilbo Wright, bass March 13--Stanley Alexandrowicz, classical guitar From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 26 12:09:44 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA28077; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 12:09:44 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 12:09:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36851935.8598DE6C@stic.net> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:13:25 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Princeton Loops References: <7de23c10.36850f85@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"YNq-43.0.wU6.QTHXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com PMimlitsch@aol.com wrote: > Sat. Jan. 9 at 7:30 p.m. > Paul Mimlitsch ("tapped strings"/Live Loops) with percussionist Jody Janetta > The Arts Council of Princeton, upstairs, Witherspoon Street, downtown > Princeton, N.J. > tickets are $10 at the door, $5 in advance > for tickets or directions contact the Arts Council > (609) 924-8777 > (If the volunteer answering the phone can't answer your question, ask for > Mark.) > Advance tickets also available directly from Carlton at 457 Whittaker Ave., > Trenton > > This recital will be the second in a four-part series scheduled for the second > Saturday of each month at the Arts Council and featuring some of the recent > solo music and collaborative works of composer Carlton Wilkinson. Some of the > recordings made during this series will be used on an upcoming IMMP release. > There's a heavy emphasis on technology in many of these works, as an > extension of solo playing. > > The recital in November featured Sabrina Berger on electric 5-string violin, > playing Key West, Libra and the premiere of My Undoing, for 5-string violin > and accompanying soundfiles. It was a great performance, with real good > attendance. > > Upcoming: > Jan. 9--Paul Mimlitsch, "tapped strings"/loops with Jody Janetta, percussion > Feb. 13--Wilbo Wright, bass > March 13--Stanley Alexandrowicz, classical guitar Wish I could be there. Good luck with your performance!! James www.stic.net/users/jameshsidlo From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 26 16:00:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA18908; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:00:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:00:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <001201be3111$9509b900$0fb5d5cc@lunatic.pageworx.net> From: "Jake Bell" To: Subject: echoplex Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 15:51:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"f86Vj1.0.k04.GoKXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Greetings I have a brand new echoplex with additional simm chip memory and footpedal. I want to sell it because I was originally looking for a Jamman and found one. I paid just over $1,000.00 for the echoplex and footpedal. I will consider reasonable offers. Manual included. J Bell From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sat Dec 26 16:19:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA26071; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:19:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 16:19:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: Subject: An Apology Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:12:47 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01be3114$7ee079e0$ae32dacf@stepheng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001201be3111$9509b900$0fb5d5cc@lunatic.pageworx.net> Resent-Message-ID: <"SHE_11.0.Kj5.I4LXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I've hit technical difficulties in recording the past several days and as such will announce when "Fur or Feather" is placed on the site. Again, my apologies. Stephen Goodman  -  It's... The Loop Of The Week! EarthLight Studios  -  http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 02:39:13 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA03132; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 02:39:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 02:39:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 02:32:00 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin X-Sender: alevin@ari.ari.net To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Dark Aether Project year end round up Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"Pas0p3.0.13.Y9UXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear friends, We hope everyone is enjoying this time of holidays. As 1998 comes to a close, we'd like to thank everyone for their kind support that has made this such a wonderful year for us. To all of the folks at the radio stations, magazines, newspapers, distributors, clubs and concert halls, the fine bands that we've had the pleasure of playing with and especially the folks who have bought CDs and come out to see us play, we wish you all the best for the new year! 1999 is looking to be an even better year for us as we finish up the writing for our next album. In addition to the three songs which you may already be familiar with from recent shows: "Nightmare" - a 7+ minute vocal tune, "Stages" - a 7+ minute instrumental, and our still untitled 12+ minute instrumental, this past weekend we worked out the music for an entirely new song which is running over 11 minutes long. This track just could turn out to be the album centerpiece. I've asked Ray to write the lyrics for this song. The lyrics Ray has written in the past as a member of Echolyn, Still and Always Almost are miles ahead of anything I could dream of coming up with and since he'll have to sing them, I'm happy to let him write them! As mentioned previously, the CD will also contain a bonus live 9+ minute version of "Dark Aether" recorded at TapTech II back in November. We'll be working on at least one additional piece between now and mid-late January when we will get down to putting the little magnetic bits to tape. With my switch to Warr Guitar from Stick, the addition of keyboards on some of the songs, Ray helping us out on vocals and the longer more complex songs, I'm really excited about the direction of this new album. The plan is to have the album ready for release in time for a special show we've booked at Phantasmagoria in Wheaton MD on Saturday March 13th with special guests from the Europa String Choir. For those unfamiliar with the ESC, I highly recommend checking out their 1995 debut _The Starving Moon_ released by Discipline Global Mobile Records as well as ESC Warr Guitarist Markus Reuter's _Taster_ - an excellent live recording of solo improvised loop based touchstyle guitar music from a performance in Cologne, Germany back in 1997. You can find out more about the ESC on their website at http://www.dscplne.demon.co.uk/ As an aside, the weekend prior to the March show, Markus and I will be out in the Seattle area studying two handed tapping techniques for fretted string instruments with Trey Gunn of King Crimson. In addition to Trey's course, there will be another introducing newcomers to the Guitar Craft Standard Tuning. The location is the Seabeck Retreat Center on Bainbridge Island which is breathtakingly beautiful (after returning from a course there in 1997, I came very close to moving out there permanently!). Those interested in learning more about these and other upcoming courses are encouraged to visit the Seattle Circle Web Site at http://www.seattlecircle.com/ We hope you enjoy the last days of '98 and we'll see you in the new year! -Adam --- "...if one strives at hearing for the sake of constant virtue, out of seeking liberation from cyclic existence, gradually one becomes a Hearer." - Chandrakirti T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 03:53:09 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA32474; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:53:09 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 03:53:09 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3685F4DF.A391081@dial.pipex.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:50:39 +0000 From: Gareth Whittock X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re:list of venues References: <199812270807.DAA14758@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"y2UTz3.0.uK7.jFVXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Now that I'm embarking on live performances it's occurred to me that it would be useful if we compiled a list of suitable venues for looping in the UK - and beyond! My two penneth worth is chapter Arts' centre, Cardiff, Wales. Every month they hold a concert called the Diggers featuring pure electronic music , live instruments and tape, experimental dance, freeform jazz etc. A PA is provided though there's no payment for performances. The audience is attentive and intelligent. The bar's in another room so people sit around smoking and drinking, listening and watching but dont talk over the music. Any other contributions? Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 05:42:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id FAA07069; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:42:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 05:42:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: list of venues Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 02:36:54 -0800 Message-ID: <000e01be3184$d1f82fe0$0fceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3685F4DF.A391081@dial.pipex.com> Resent-Message-ID: <"UA9lT2.0._01.cqWXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Q2hlZXJzIGZvciB0aGF0IGJyaWdodCBpZGVhIGR1ZGUuICBJJ2QgbGlrZSB0byBzZWUgYSBsaXN0 IGxpa2UgdGhhdCBmb3IgdGhlIFNhbiBGcmFuY2lzY28gQmF5IEFyZWEgaW4gQ2FsaWZvcm5pYS4N Cg0KPiAtLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KPiBGcm9tOiBHYXJldGggV2hpdHRvY2sg W21haWx0bzp3aGl0ZW9ha0BkaWFsLnBpcGV4LmNvbV0NCj4gU2VudDogU3VuZGF5IDI3IERlY2Vt YmVyIDE5OTggMTI6NTEgQU0NCj4gVG86IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBhbm5paGlsaXN0LmNvbQ0K PiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTpsaXN0IG9mIHZlbnVlcw0KPiANCj4gDQo+IE5vdyB0aGF0IEknbSBlbWJh cmtpbmcgb24gbGl2ZSBwZXJmb3JtYW5jZXMgaXQncyBvY2N1cnJlZCB0byBtZSB0aGF0IGl0DQo+ IHdvdWxkIGJlIHVzZWZ1bCBpZiB3ZSBjb21waWxlZCBhIGxpc3Qgb2Ygc3VpdGFibGUgdmVudWVz IGZvciBsb29waW5nIGluDQo+IHRoZSBVSyAtIGFuZCBiZXlvbmQhDQo+IE15IHR3byBwZW5uZXRo IHdvcnRoIGlzIGNoYXB0ZXIgQXJ0cycgY2VudHJlLCBDYXJkaWZmLCBXYWxlcy4gRXZlcnkNCj4g bW9udGggdGhleSBob2xkIGEgY29uY2VydCBjYWxsZWQgdGhlIERpZ2dlcnMgZmVhdHVyaW5nIHB1 cmUgZWxlY3Ryb25pYw0KPiBtdXNpYyAsIGxpdmUgaW5zdHJ1bWVudHMgYW5kIHRhcGUsIGV4cGVy aW1lbnRhbCBkYW5jZSwgZnJlZWZvcm0gamF6eg0KPiBldGMuIEEgUEEgaXMgcHJvdmlkZWQgdGhv dWdoIHRoZXJlJ3Mgbm8gcGF5bWVudCBmb3IgcGVyZm9ybWFuY2VzLiBUaGUNCj4gYXVkaWVuY2Ug aXMgYXR0ZW50aXZlIGFuZCBpbnRlbGxpZ2VudC4gVGhlIGJhcidzIGluIGFub3RoZXIgcm9vbSBz bw0KPiBwZW9wbGUgc2l0IGFyb3VuZCBzbW9raW5nIGFuZCBkcmlua2luZywgbGlzdGVuaW5nIGFu ZCB3YXRjaGluZyBidXQgZG9udA0KPiB0YWxrIG92ZXIgdGhlIG11c2ljLg0KPiBBbnkgb3RoZXIg Y29udHJpYnV0aW9ucz8NCj4gIEdhcmV0aA0KPiANCj4g From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 13:38:08 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id NAA28001; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:38:08 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:38:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981227122621.007b0980@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 12:26:21 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Ordering David Torn CDs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"OYY6U1.0.cd5.ZkdXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, all... I've run into difficulty finding two particular David Torn CDs. They are the Polytown CD and Tripping Over God. As I am in Alabama, there aren't many places that would have them in-store--so, I've turned to the internet. The one place where I have found them (Pentagon Music) just informed me that they were out of stock. I was curious if you all knew of any other internet resources or places where I could order these recordings. Thank you, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 15:49:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA16897; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:49:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:49:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <36869CF7.3BD7F7E6@stic.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:47:51 -0600 From: "James H. Sidlo" Organization: James H. Sidlo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ordering David Torn CDs References: <3.0.6.32.19981227122621.007b0980@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"R--he2.0.s83.RifXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > Hello, all... > I've run into difficulty finding two particular David Torn CDs. They are > the Polytown CD and Tripping Over God. As I am in Alabama, there aren't > many places that would have them in-store--so, I've turned to the internet. > The one place where I have found them (Pentagon Music) just informed me > that they were out of stock. > I was curious if you all knew of any other internet resources or places > where I could order these recordings. > Thank you, > Jeff McLeod > __________________________________________ > This is not here-- > And now is almost over... You might try Wayside Music/ Cuneiform. They've got a web site (you'll have to do a search engine). Wayside's last catalogue (they're quarterly) had "Polytown" cd for cheap ($8-$10). Good luck, James From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 20:05:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA24246; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:05:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:05:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981227185751.007ad430@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:57:51 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: Re: Ordering David Torn CDs In-Reply-To: <36869CF7.3BD7F7E6@stic.net> References: <3.0.6.32.19981227122621.007b0980@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"zwdd62.0.p75.eTjXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... Thanks for the replies. I just wanted to let everyone know that Pentagon just wrote and said that there was an error. My order is going to be filled, so I've found a way to get both CDs. Thanks anyway for all the help! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod At 02:47 PM 12/27/98 -0600, you wrote: > > >Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > >> Hello, all... >> I've run into difficulty finding two particular David Torn CDs. They are >> the Polytown CD and Tripping Over God. As I am in Alabama, there aren't >> many places that would have them in-store--so, I've turned to the internet. >> The one place where I have found them (Pentagon Music) just informed me >> that they were out of stock. >> I was curious if you all knew of any other internet resources or places >> where I could order these recordings. >> Thank you, >> Jeff McLeod >> __________________________________________ >> This is not here-- >> And now is almost over... > > You might try Wayside Music/ Cuneiform. They've got a web site (you'll have to >do a search engine). Wayside's last catalogue (they're quarterly) had "Polytown" cd >for cheap ($8-$10). > Good luck, James > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 20:15:38 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA28570; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:15:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:15:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3686792B.865EDB07@boulder.quik.com> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 18:15:09 +0000 From: Jim Sincock Reply-To: lobo27@boulder.quik.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ordering David Torn CDs References: <3.0.6.32.19981227122621.007b0980@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"xc6vL.0.EJ6.iejXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello, Tower Records has a good selection of Torn, but they seem kind of high on their prices. They're at http://www.towerrecords.com Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Sun Dec 27 21:09:28 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA18314; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:09:28 -0500 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:09:28 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:57:05 -0500 (EST) From: Stew Benedict To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: Ordering David Torn CDs In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981227122621.007b0980@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <"yk1IQ2.0.ho3.yQkXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Try the Artist's Shop, they got most of the Torn/Karn collections for me: http://www.artist-shop.com Stew On Sun, 27 Dec 1998, Jeff & Vonda McLeod wrote: > Hello, all... > I've run into difficulty finding two particular David Torn CDs. They are > the Polytown CD and Tripping Over God. As I am in Alabama, there aren't > many places that would have them in-store--so, I've turned to the internet. > The one place where I have found them (Pentagon Music) just informed me > that they were out of stock. > I was curious if you all knew of any other internet resources or places > where I could order these recordings. > Thank you, > Jeff McLeod > __________________________________________ > This is not here-- > And now is almost over... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 28 10:54:06 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA23674; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:54:06 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:54:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812281538.HAA22396@scv3.apple.com> Subject: FS: Symetrix 606 $400 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 98 09:40:45 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"K2slB3.0.IP4.vPwXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >From Harmony Central, respond to the e-mail address listed at the bottom of the ad, not to me. The 606 has been the subject of speculation on the list. It's sort of a super Vortex with MIDI control. Also similiar to the Korg DL-8000, but max delay time is around five seconds, I believe. Travis Hartnett ************************ New Symetrix 606 delay with realtime controls Asking Price: US$400 Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: New Symetrix 606 in box with manual and warranty card etc. Never used, never racked. Brand new from store 3 weeks ago. Retail 750.00, street price 580.00, this one 450.00 shipped to you. The ultimate for realtime tweaking. A modern Lex PCM 42. Very cool unit. Knobs! r-mode@webtv.net Seller: Rod Modell, (810)622-7933 E-mail: r-mode@webtv.net (Profile) Location: PORT SANILAC, MI Post Date: 12/27/98 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 28 12:16:29 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA25942; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:16:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:16:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:02:34 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: speaking of c.d.s Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"eLiFg3.0.8o4.ybxXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com could anyone send me the address of the folks in charge of the LD. Vol.2 c.d.....thanks.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 28 12:48:07 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA06309; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:48:07 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:48:07 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981228173330.0086cf18@artist-shop.com> X-Sender: artshop@artist-shop.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:33:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Gary Davis Subject: Re: Ordering David Torn CDs Cc: subversive@mindspring.com Resent-Message-ID: <"0mP9c3.0.sL.k5yXs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 03:06 AM 12/28/98 -0500, Jeff McLeod wrote: > >Hello, all... > I've run into difficulty finding two particular David Torn CDs. They are >the Polytown CD and Tripping Over God. As I am in Alabama, there aren't >many places that would have them in-store--so, I've turned to the internet. >The one place where I have found them (Pentagon Music) just informed me >that they were out of stock. > I was curious if you all knew of any other internet resources or places >where I could order these recordings. >Thank you, >Jeff McLeod I have a direct connection to CMP and can get almost anything in their catalog. I have a special CMP page up in The Artist Shop at . Although it can take a while since I have to order these from overseas, there's not much in their catalog that I've had trouble getting. And I have not had any trouble getting those Torn CD's. Torn fans should definitely check these other pages we have up for the following labels: Alchemy Records LoLo Records Papabear Records Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 28 16:59:05 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA15387; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:59:05 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:59:05 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981228213822.0070f2cc@pop.chromatic.com> X-Sender: kflint@pop.chromatic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:38:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: some interesting interviews Resent-Message-ID: <"pV53i.0.ce1.Kf_Xs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Happened across this Bob Moog interview, it's pretty good. thought some of you might be interested: http://www.zzounds.com/discover.music?page=moog1&a=hcmoog also, this interview with Henry Juszkiewicz, Gibson CEO, where he discusses various rumors surrounding Gibson that have appeared on the list here: http://www.mmrmagazine.com/feature/dec98/gibson.htm Note he mentions the Oberheim name now just being used for an italian company. As I understand it, that only includes the Viscount keyboard products that Gibson/Oberheim has been selling for the past few years. It doesn't include other OB stuff like the Echoplex or matrix-1000, OBMX, etc. The Echoplex is getting moved to another Gibson division, Electar, which also includes Trace-Elliot and Maestro. I'm guessing they'll be calling it the "Electar Echoplex Digital Pro" or something like that, but it's the same thing as it was from Oberheim. Most likely this will confuse the hell out of people for a while, but anyway, now you know. kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com ATI Research 408-752-9284 http://www.chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 28 17:44:04 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA01540; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:44:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:44:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <01BE3286.46948EA0@ds115.ix.netcom.com> From: John Celano To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: electar Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:19:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE3286.46948EA0" Resent-Message-ID: <"DVSR21.0.vn5.8G0Ys"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE3286.46948EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [SMTP:kflint@chromatic.com] Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 4:38 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: some interesting interviews Just an FYI, When I received my footcontroller a couple of weeks ago , the oberheim sticker was covered w/ an electar sticker. Note he mentions the Oberheim name now just being used for an italian company. As I understand it, that only includes the Viscount keyboard products that Gibson/Oberheim has been selling for the past few years. It doesn't include other OB stuff like the Echoplex or matrix-1000, OBMX, etc. The Echoplex is getting moved to another Gibson division, Electar, which also includes Trace-Elliot and Maestro. I'm guessing they'll be calling it the "Electar Echoplex Digital Pro" or something like that, but it's the same thing as it was from Oberheim. Most likely this will confuse the hell out of people for a while, but anyway, now you know. kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com ATI Research 408-752-9284 http://www.chromatic.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE3286.46948EA0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IjIWAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYA9AEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAAWwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdo dEBhbm5paGlsaXN0LmNvbQBTTVRQAExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBhbm5paGlsaXN0LmNvbQAAHgAC MAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAAAB8AAABMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAYW5uaWhpbGlzdC5j b20AAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEwAQAAACEAAAAnTG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGFubmloaWxp c3QuY29tJwAAAAACAQswAQAAACQAAABTTVRQOkxPT1BFUlMtREVMSUdIVEBBTk5JSElMSVNULkNP TQADAAA5AAAAAAsAQDoBAAAAHgD2XwEAAAAfAAAATG9vcGVycy1EZWxpZ2h0QGFubmloaWxpc3Qu Y29tAAACAfdfAQAAAFsAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAABMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRA YW5uaWhpbGlzdC5jb20AU01UUABMb29wZXJzLURlbGlnaHRAYW5uaWhpbGlzdC5jb20AAAMA/V8B AAAAAwD/XwAAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAACIXcBBIABAAgAAABlbGVjdGFyAOACAQWAAwAOAAAA zgcMABwAEQATAB0AAQA/AQEggAMADgAAAM4HDAAcABEAEQAlAAEARQEBCYABACEAAAA3QTVDREVD RjU5OUVEMjExOTBGMDAwMjA3ODE1NTU4NwAVBwEDkAYAGAgAACIAAAALAAIAAQAAAAsAIwABAAAA AwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMALgAAAAAAAgExAAEAAAC6AAAAUENERkVCMDkAAQACAE0AAAAAAAAA OKG7EAXlEBqhuwgAKypWwgAAbXNwc3QuZGxsAAAAAABOSVRB+b+4AQCqADfZbgAAAEM6XFdJTkRP V1NcbWFpbGJveDAucHN0ABgAAAAAAAAAEI0S2gNz0RGQ7kRFU1QAAKKAAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAAAAQ jRLaA3PREZDuREVTVAAAwoAAABAAAAB6XN7PWZ7SEZDwACB4FVWHCAAAAGVsZWN0YXIAAAADADYA AAAAAEAAOQDgbiwjsDK+AR4AcAABAAAACAAAAGVsZWN0YXIAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb4ysCMbz95c e55ZEdKQ8AAgeBVVhwAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAB8MAQAAABAAAABkczExNUBlcm9s cy5jb20AAwAGENuBQ2oDAAcQXwMAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAC0tLS0tT1JJR0lOQUxNRVNTQUdFLS0t LS1GUk9NOktJTUZMSU5UU01UUDpLRkxJTlRAQ0hST01BVElDQ09NU0VOVDpNT05EQVksREVDRU1C RVIyOCwxOTk4NDozOFBNVE86TE8AAAAAAgEJEAEAAABNBAAASQQAAG8GAABMWkZ1iUoHuwMACgBy Y3BnMTI1FjIA+Atgbg4QMDMznQH3IAKkA+MCAGNoCsDgc2V0MCAHEwKDAFChEHZwcnEyEXZ9CoDZ CMggOwlvDjA1AoAKgex1YwBQCwNjEhILxQqxhwqECoQLMGxpMzYBQFcWkBcxA2B0BZB0EgQxqDYg LRoCTwUQZwuAhwdABdAHkHNhZ2UaAx8XRhkUFzMLMRkWaS0xjDQ0AUAYYDE4MAFAowzQHaNiIEYD YToMg3piEWBLB3Ae4BhgAjAggFtTTVRQOmsO8K0gIUAQ8ANidA3gLgWgfG1dF0Ue0AZgAjAfN02B AiBkYXksIEQFkEZlBtAEkCAyOCPQMYA5OTggNDozJPAkUE0iF1RvHzdMb2RvcASQcy0j8BhgZ25o IRAAcAMAaAMQBAB0YyHCIhh1YmoZQR83c/kDcGUgICEEkAeQIZAPIPUqdHYIkHcQwBu/HMkYZI8W 3BaSDDIsViBKdShAIiADkUZZSSPQV2gxCfAgSSAJcCQQaXbhCYAgbXkgAhAZIAWgkwIwA2BsbCRR YSAFoIZ1C1AqYG9mIHcJ4KZrBCAbIG8gI9B0MOCfM3AkQTDgH9Eq4WNrJFF8d2EEIAWgMZAJcTOg L98wQidQGUEKwTVFLgMwGMK3H5AMQBjnIArjCoBOGSHuIDSBB4ACMGkCIAQgNHJOTzTGGqAqUW5v B+Bq/zASJEArAjAQMaECEDLRA6B+aQGQGGAAcBdEIdEKsG7aeTfQQQQgMSB1I5AnAT8BkCOQPWE0 UiGAM3BubLsx4AuAYwpAAQA6hFYEAPczESAxNYB5BuALExdiGQEaZBYAdDqCQDFHaWL5KjBuLzrn EQAEICRAMPF/ETAyoCsCPQI0cgqwMCFm2QfReWURETfQSRlgF1PkZG8HkG4nBUBAtTNwUzRxBcBP QjUxdQEgIHcYYDWANGNFEPAm4DKweG8zcAXAIXEFEHgdkB4wMPMj0ElATVgj0BFAIbAXRPZUSjoE ACAbMAJAKwIEYD0xknQ0MABwSORD1CBkbzGABAA6USPQRTb0I9B3PygAEPAXRAdAKjBAqFRyfwDQ G0BQkBhgGSAwQTGwTa5hKtEDYEdBJx/gZwpQ5wQQKwI0cXknMqA8QTMA3wdARZM9cBdENHIiUJVK WN5EGnE9gSVQA2AiSuIqMp80cCsCSdUhgCPQYnVIQfx0JzqEGxAHgFZ2KwI10f89cDWzA1I61zfQ I3AwIUnSv0CBWXEEIAPwVXEyQWY8sV80YzDgVXEIYEBBZkKVZf9Kkjz0URIysFpkPoE1wCPBfTvC eQhgQgA7wUyFF0Rr+wdwF0RfZT9mT2dfZ7MXRP8fxyPQIIAF8GoPakEgzyh39EFUMSBSB5BHARDw AzCPAZFqT24xHcA4LTcOQNQtOSSANC6JdQMgJ5DAdHA6Ly93cVAhwF9r2xjCcLAXOxOBAHPgAAAA AwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAAMAgBD/////QAAHMKBUW+CvMr4BQAAIMKBUW+CvMr4BCwAAgAggBgAA AAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAA4UAAAAAAAADAAKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAQhQAAAAAAAAMA BYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFKFAAC3DQAAHgAlgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAVIUA AAEAAAAEAAAAOC4wAAMAJoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAACwAvgAggBgAAAAAA wAAAAAAAAEYAAAAADoUAAAAAAAADADCACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAARhQAAAAAAAAMAMoAI IAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABiFAAAAAAAAHgBBgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUAAAEA AAABAAAAAAAAAB4AQoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAEOACCAG AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgA9AAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAMADTT9NwAA du4= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE3286.46948EA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Mon Dec 28 22:45:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA29256; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:45:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:45:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: "Douglas Lawrence" To: Subject: RE: some interesting interviews Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:35:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be32dc$439450e0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981228213822.0070f2cc@pop.chromatic.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"lkwkl2.0.H16.7s4Ys"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I found a much better interview with Henry in the World Traveler magazine which is the airline magazine for Northwest Airlines. What Henry realizes he has is market share. Everybody knows the "Gibson" name. He says "80% of the consumer market recognizes the Gibson name." That's why he's going to start making everything he can with that name on it. Merchandising and cafes are the key to his new found fortunes. The Japanese will line up for jammies and shot glasses with the Gibson name on it, or "lifestyle marketing" in his terms. He cites Caterpillar shoes, the Hardrock Cafe, and the Nascar Cafe as his inspiration. In this article he claims that the site in Memphis is going focus on becoming a "custom" Les Paul plant and also a "Hard Rock Cafe" style bar with guitars all over the walls. They will also have live music. Now, I'll be the first to buy the "I got looped at the Gibson Cafe with my Echoplex" T-shirt, but I think it's a shame that he thinks that re-focusing an instrument manufacturer to consumer products is a positive thing for the business. It's not that I want to bite the hand that feeds me, but I think many of us saw the quality of many Gibson products (Tobias, Steinberger, Slingerland) suffer over the years. I hope they find time to keep their quality in check and put some profits back into R&D. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Flint [mailto:kflint@chromatic.com] Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 4:38 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: some interesting interviews Happened across this Bob Moog interview, it's pretty good. thought some of you might be interested: http://www.zzounds.com/discover.music?page=moog1&a=hcmoog also, this interview with Henry Juszkiewicz, Gibson CEO, where he discusses various rumors surrounding Gibson that have appeared on the list here: http://www.mmrmagazine.com/feature/dec98/gibson.htm Note he mentions the Oberheim name now just being used for an italian company. As I understand it, that only includes the Viscount keyboard products that Gibson/Oberheim has been selling for the past few years. It doesn't include other OB stuff like the Echoplex or matrix-1000, OBMX, etc. The Echoplex is getting moved to another Gibson division, Electar, which also includes Trace-Elliot and Maestro. I'm guessing they'll be calling it the "Electar Echoplex Digital Pro" or something like that, but it's the same thing as it was from Oberheim. Most likely this will confuse the hell out of people for a while, but anyway, now you know. kim _________________________________________________________ Kim Flint, MTS kflint@chromatic.com ATI Research 408-752-9284 http://www.chromatic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 02:28:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA18380; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:28:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 02:28:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE3304.04A572B0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: some interesting interviews Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:19:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"4Lm1j2.0.zO3.n98Ys"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Douglas Lawrence wrote, > Now, I'll be the first to buy the "I got looped > at the Gibson Cafe with my Echoplex" T-shirt good idea, let's do some more aggressive merchandising to get looping into peoples heads. What about a 'Loopers do it again and again' bumper sticker? :) * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * http://listen.to/michaelpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 09:20:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id JAA13718; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:20:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:20:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812291409.GAA05357@crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: The Three-Ring Circus, a.k.a "Gibson" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 98 08:12:39 +0100 x-sender: tiktok@pop.a001.sprintmail.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Tiktok Mobile HQ To: "Looper's Delight" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"cueMd3.0.b72.N9EYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com >Note he mentions the Oberheim name now just being used for an italian >company. As I understand it, that only includes the Viscount keyboard >products that Gibson/Oberheim has been selling for the past few years. It >doesn't include other OB stuff like the Echoplex or matrix-1000, OBMX, etc. >The Echoplex is getting moved to another Gibson division, Electar, which >also includes Trace-Elliot and Maestro. I read the interview, and my first thought was that he's unaware that the Echoplex exists. Gibson has been in a state of confusion for longer than I can remember. I bought my first Echoplex two years ago, and I've held off on getting the LED display fixed (one of the elements in the loop-time counter went out early on) due to the numerous re-org's, office relocations, and horror stories about sending in units and not seeing them back for three months while no-one returns your phone calls. In the meantime, Gibson keeps buying up smaller companies and raising the prices on their thirty-year old designs, which still have less-than perfect finishes while listing for $3000+. I'd have to say that if they're going to rename the Echoplex, I'd suspect another impending long delay for new units, service, etc. Ah...life in the soap opera of the looping underworld continues business-as-usual. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 10:02:14 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA30779; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:02:14 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:02:14 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Hawkeye255@aol.com Message-ID: <292fd76d.3688ed25@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:54:29 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: AW: some interesting interviews Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 205 Resent-Message-ID: <"vV1HM3.0.Ff6.rpEYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com or "Over and Over 'til they get it right!" From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 11:24:45 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA32380; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:24:45 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:24:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <3689029C.B6B708C1@nyfac.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:26:05 -0500 From: "Trevor D. Bajus, purveyor of the new rock" Reply-To: nyfac2@nyfac.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: some interesting interviews References: <000501be32dc$439450e0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5C3D06B1E7074F204600C0BB" Resent-Message-ID: <"VD5cd2.0.4G7.r2GYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com --------------5C3D06B1E7074F204600C0BB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Douglas Lawrence wrote: > I found a much better interview with Henry in the World Traveler magazine > which is the airline magazine for Northwest Airlines. > > What Henry realizes he has is market share.... > That's why he's going to start making everything he can with that name on > it. Merchandising and cafes are the key to his new found fortunes... He cites > Caterpillar shoes, the Hardrock Cafe, and the Nascar Cafe as his inspiration. > Yuck. Talk about putting your short term profit over long term gain. Does anyone think that this is an unlikely scenario: The Allstar Hard Gibson Cafe opens, the merchandising frenzy begins, demand for even their guitars increases. They see that by radically cutting costs thay can rake in a ton of profit, they can meet this newfound demand quickly, and make a killing. Most people who are now Gibson users abandon them for Hamers (after my Custom Shop Les Paul developed a huge hump in the neck, I'll never buy a new one). All of the hobbiests move onto the Next Big Thing and Gibson is left with no market share. Kim Flint, at this point having achieved Rock God status and wealth, feels sorry for his old employers, buys the company, and brings them back to their former glory.... I guess I should be glad I've always been a Fender boy. -- Evil Hong Kong Kung-Fu Legions Petition For Right To Attack Two At A Time VICTORIA, HONG KONG--The Red Dragon Legion, a union representing Hong Kong's 22 largest evil kung-fu goon squads, formally petitioned the Hong Kong action-film industry Monday to lift its long-term ban on dual-attacking in fights against the forces of good. "We feel it is both reasonable and fair to permit evil henchmen to pair up, attacking the hero two at a time," the petition read. The union cited a study which found that from 1989 to 1997, 100 percent of diabolical armies who took on lone heroes in a single-file fashion were defeated. from the Onion http://www.theonion.com/ --------------5C3D06B1E7074F204600C0BB Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

Douglas Lawrence wrote:

I found a much better interview with Henry in the World Traveler magazine
which is the airline magazine for Northwest Airlines.

What Henry realizes he has is market share....
That's why he's going to start making everything he can with that name on
it. Merchandising and cafes are the key to his new found fortunes...  He cites Caterpillar shoes, the Hardrock Cafe, and the Nascar Cafe as his inspiration.
 

Yuck.  Talk about putting your short term profit over long term gain.  Does anyone think that this is an unlikely scenario:  The Allstar Hard Gibson Cafe opens, the merchandising frenzy begins, demand for even their guitars increases.  They see that by radically cutting costs thay can rake in a ton of profit, they can meet this newfound demand quickly, and make a killing.  Most people who are now Gibson users abandon them for Hamers (after my Custom Shop Les Paul developed a huge hump in the neck, I'll never buy a new one).  All of the hobbiests move onto the Next Big Thing and Gibson is left with no market share.

Kim Flint, at this point having achieved Rock God status and wealth, feels sorry for his old employers, buys the company, and brings them back to their former glory....

I guess I should be glad I've always been a Fender boy.
 

--
Evil Hong Kong Kung-Fu Legions Petition
For Right To Attack Two At A Time

VICTORIA, HONG KONG--The Red Dragon
Legion, a union representing Hong Kong's 22
largest evil kung-fu goon squads, formally
petitioned the Hong Kong action-film industry
Monday to lift its long-term ban on
dual-attacking in fights against the forces of
good. "We feel it is both reasonable and fair to
permit evil henchmen to pair up, attacking the
hero two at a time," the petition read. The union
cited a study which found that from 1989 to
1997, 100 percent of diabolical armies who took
on lone heroes in a single-file fashion were
defeated.

from the Onion http://www.theonion.com/
  --------------5C3D06B1E7074F204600C0BB-- From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 11:56:49 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id LAA13613; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:56:49 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:56:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:45:44 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: The Echoplex Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"s46Bk1.0.N62.ESGYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I too, received my echoplex and the segment was burnt out on one of the units...I also, decided not to send it back, yet...due to slow turnaround. Also, I've experienced a strange situation....When programming a loop into the unit...it plays it, over and over for a few times, and then fades out, or gets real quiet...if I touch one of the controls on the front for feedback or input/output volumes....I get a loud pop! Any comments? Note: I'm running a pair of them in stereo with the brother sync. Wayne From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 14:39:04 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA15439; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:39:04 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:39:04 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:16:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: The Echoplex Resent-Message-ID: <"ROncH.0.k12.pkIYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Why are you guys so afraid to send it in for a repair? Granted, there *were* lots of problems at Oberheim, but that was a year and a half and more ago! The Oberheim-now-Electar guys have been very responsive and helpful in the time since, and there have been quite a lot of testamonials to that here. I don't think anything has changed about that with recent events, if anything switching the echoplex to Electar is a further improvement. Those guys deserve some credit for working their ass off and doing things right; its hardly fair to be endlessly hanging them with crap done years ago. Give Mike Ayers a call and take care of it, he's a great guy. , 877-623-7434 or 615-871-4382. kim At 8:45 AM -0800 12/29/98, Wjguitar@aol.com wrote: >I too, received my echoplex and the segment was burnt out on one of the >units...I also, decided not to send it back, yet...due to slow turnaround. >Also, I've experienced a strange situation....When programming a loop into the >unit...it plays it, over and over for a few times, and then fades out, or gets >real quiet...if I touch one of the controls on the front for feedback or >input/output volumes....I get a loud pop! Any comments? Note: I'm running a >pair of them in stereo with the brother sync. > >Wayne ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 14:55:02 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA22383; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:55:02 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:55:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: siforte@popd.ix.netcom.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:44:56 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: siforte@ix.netcom.com (Sanford Forte) Subject: Re: The Three-Ring Circus, a.k.a "Gibson" Cc: "Looper's Delight" Resent-Message-ID: <"hAyW-2.0.Zr3.-_IYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:12 AM 12/29/98, Tiktok Mobile HQ wrote: >I read the interview, and my first thought was that he's unaware that the >Echoplex exists. Gibson has been in a state of confusion for longer than >I can remember. I bought my first Echoplex two years ago, and I've held >off on getting the LED display fixed (one of the elements in the >loop-time counter went out early on) due to the numerous re-org's, office >relocations, and horror stories about sending in units and not seeing >them back for three months while no-one returns your phone calls. ------- FWIW, Mike Ayers at Gibson (I've said this before) is the person you want to connect with. He gets things done - your Echoplex will be in good hands with him. I've had nothing but good luck with Gibson as regards upgrades and service with Mike att the service and support helm. Sanford From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 15:05:30 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA26879; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:05:30 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:05:30 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812291409.GAA05357@crow.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:53:32 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: The Three-Ring Circus, a.k.a "Gibson" Resent-Message-ID: <"UJSJX3.0.BB5.sBJYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 11:12 PM -0800 12/28/98, Tiktok Mobile HQ wrote: > >I read the interview, and my first thought was that he's unaware that the >Echoplex exists. I guess it seems that way in the interview, but Henry would clearly be responsible for the move to another division. Since Electar seems to be a division they want to focus on, I read the echoplex switch as Henry recognizing that as the only successful product in the old Oberheim line. He's keeping that for a more prominent division, and tossing out all the other Oberheim junk that never sold well. >Gibson has been in a state of confusion for longer than >I can remember. I bought my first Echoplex two years ago, and I've held >off on getting the LED display fixed (one of the elements in the >loop-time counter went out early on) due to the numerous re-org's, office >relocations, and horror stories about sending in units and not seeing >them back for three months while no-one returns your phone calls. like I said, that's ancient history. You really ought to give them a call. >In the >meantime, Gibson keeps buying up smaller companies and raising the prices >on their thirty-year old designs, which still have less-than perfect >finishes while listing for $3000+. And yet they still sell every one they make, and when they raise the prices, the sales go up! Rough business, huh? It's like the wine industry. Or Harley. I find it pretty funny the way some guitar players get worked into a lather over this. It's usually the same guys who would defend to the death any other big corporation's right to make a buck, but as soon as it's their treasured guitar maker, the rules change. Those guitars are status toys for rich guys, who lap them up like there's no tomorrow. If you're not one of them, well, that's why there's hondas, gallo, and epiphone. >I'd have to say that if they're going >to rename the Echoplex, I'd suspect another impending long delay for new >units, service, etc. Ah...life in the soap opera of the looping >underworld continues business-as-usual. no need to be so cynical. I think the transition is largely complete already, with no serious bumps expected. It seems to me that they've made it ok. Nobody's said anything here anyway, and you guys usually scream about everything, so it must be safe! :-) But ya know, you could always call them yourself and see how it's going. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 15:12:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA30060; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:12:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:12:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3689029C.B6B708C1@nyfac.com> References: <000501be32dc$439450e0$87500218@cc1006472-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:00:10 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: some interesting interviews Resent-Message-ID: <"vaLR63.0.Ws5.1IJYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com At 8:26 AM -0800 12/29/98, Trevor D. Bajus, purveyor of the new rock wrote: >Kim Flint, at this point having achieved Rock God status and wealth, feels >sorry for his old employers, buys the company, and brings them back to >their former glory.... > Well, this past weekend I did some practicing, and went partying like a Rock Star. (including wild drunken insanity in hotel rooms.) After a couple of days for recovery, I now suspect I'm getting too old for that. :-) Maybe I'll try the corporate tycoon route instead. I hear that golf and upper class call girls are easier on the liver...... kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 19:29:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA04021; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:29:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:29:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: The Echoplex Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 16:20:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000801be338a$28b35f60$1fceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <"4_KID.0.xp7.F4NYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com U28gdGhlcmUhDQoNCj4gLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCj4gRnJvbTogS2ltIEZs aW50IFttYWlsdG86a2ZsaW50QGFubmloaWxpc3QuY29tXQ0KPiBTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5IDI5IERl Y2VtYmVyIDE5OTggMTE6MTcgQU0NCj4gVG86IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBhbm5paGlsaXN0LmNv bQ0KPiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogVGhlIEVjaG9wbGV4DQo+IA0KPiANCj4gV2h5IGFyZSB5b3UgZ3V5 cyBzbyBhZnJhaWQgdG8gc2VuZCBpdCBpbiBmb3IgYSByZXBhaXI/ICBHcmFudGVkLCB0aGVyZQ0K PiAqd2VyZSogbG90cyBvZiBwcm9ibGVtcyBhdCBPYmVyaGVpbSwgYnV0IHRoYXQgd2FzIGEgeWVh ciBhbmQgYSBoYWxmIGFuZA0KPiBtb3JlIGFnbyEgVGhlIE9iZXJoZWltLW5vdy1FbGVjdGFyIGd1 eXMgaGF2ZSBiZWVuIHZlcnkgcmVzcG9uc2l2ZSBhbmQNCj4gaGVscGZ1bCBpbiB0aGUgdGltZSBz aW5jZSwgYW5kIHRoZXJlIGhhdmUgYmVlbiBxdWl0ZSBhIGxvdCBvZiB0ZXN0YW1vbmlhbHMNCj4g dG8gdGhhdCBoZXJlLiBJIGRvbid0IHRoaW5rIGFueXRoaW5nIGhhcyBjaGFuZ2VkIGFib3V0IHRo YXQgd2l0aCByZWNlbnQNCj4gZXZlbnRzLCBpZiBhbnl0aGluZyBzd2l0Y2hpbmcgdGhlIGVjaG9w bGV4IHRvIEVsZWN0YXIgaXMgYSBmdXJ0aGVyDQo+IGltcHJvdmVtZW50LiBUaG9zZSBndXlzIGRl c2VydmUgc29tZSBjcmVkaXQgZm9yIHdvcmtpbmcgdGhlaXIgYXNzIG9mZiBhbmQNCj4gZG9pbmcg dGhpbmdzIHJpZ2h0OyBpdHMgaGFyZGx5IGZhaXIgdG8gYmUgZW5kbGVzc2x5IGhhbmdpbmcgdGhl bSB3aXRoIGNyYXANCj4gZG9uZSB5ZWFycyBhZ28uDQo+IA0KPiBHaXZlIE1pa2UgQXllcnMgYSBj YWxsIGFuZCB0YWtlIGNhcmUgb2YgaXQsIGhlJ3MgYSBncmVhdCBndXkuDQo+IDxtYXllcnNAZ2li c29uLmNvbT4sIDg3Ny02MjMtNzQzNCBvciA2MTUtODcxLTQzODIuDQo+IA0KPiBraW0NCj4g From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 19:33:46 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA05986; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:33:46 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:33:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <93c1e64d.368972be@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:24:30 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: some interesting interviews Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 236 Resent-Message-ID: <"oPibv1.0.jX.vANYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com the march "guitar shop" mag. has a few good things to read also.....first article after letters to ed.... "gibson acquires music software pioneer opcode systems" blah blah blah the music world will change, yapa yapa yapa......but the fun article is our beloved dt preaching the gospel of loop.......fun stuff..........michael what is the march issue of any mag doing out in dec?.....this always jams me up From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 19:42:13 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA09564; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:42:13 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:42:13 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0772010@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: Gigs, gigs, gigs Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:32:05 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Resent-Message-ID: <"3rdzH.0.4B1.6HNYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy, Upcoming gigs: StALiQ: Steuart Liebig: ContraBassguitars, loopage Alex Cline: Drumset Jeff Gauthier: El. Violins Eric Barber: Saxophones with Billy Mintz Trio (Billy is a great drummer) 3 Jan, 1999; 8:00 p.m. Pasadena Shakespeare Theater Pasadena Mall, 2nd Level $10.00 Napalm Quartet: G.E. Stinson: Guitars, applied tools and technology, loopage, noise Andrew Van Ah: Guitars, mayhem Brian Christopherson: Drumset Steuart Liebig: Basses, loopage, metal and wood implements 4 Jan, 1999; 10:30 p.m. Luna Park, 665 No Robertson. (@ Robertson and Santa Monica) $6.00 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 20:33:31 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA30642; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:33:31 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:33:31 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f X-Sender: ejmd@pop.erols.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981228213822.0070f2cc@pop.chromatic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:35:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Ed Drake Subject: Problem: My Vortex won't save user registers Resent-Message-ID: <"qalv1.0.fa6.x3OYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hello fellow loopers (and loopettes!) First of all, seasons greetings and Happy New Year to all! Lately my vortex doesn't want to save any user registers that I create. Thankfully I haven't created that many, but I was wondering if anyone knows if there is some sort of battery inside to store registers in memory. I figured I would check here on the list first before I contact Lexicon or open up the vortex. The manual doesn't mention anything about this so I was wondering if anyone else here knows. Much thanks in advance and I eagerly await any replies. Ed From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 22:51:40 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id WAA22681; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:51:40 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:51:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <19981230034538.15410.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [209.64.195.175] From: "ur eye" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: The Next Step(?) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 19:45:38 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <"VYC483.0.zo4.g6QYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi folks, Well, I find myself thinking about my loops the next day. I think that means that I am ready to look for a sampling device. I'm going to try Cool edit for now but I would like to know what others are using in terms of samplers and/or software. Maybe a post-party listing of what you all are presently using would be of interest to others as well. Thanks again and again ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Tue Dec 29 23:48:12 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id XAA13984; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:12 -0500 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:48:12 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812300437.CAA07157@postman.bahianet.com.br> Reply-To: From: "Julio Moreno" To: Subject: The invisible... Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:36:02 -0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"_gpTA.0.B92.EtQYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Dear loopers: I been reading the list for months and enjoing a lot the clever and ironic chats...thanks and a happy new year for every looper! >From Brasilian paradise ( with a Paradis), Julio Moreno. From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 01:45:11 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id BAA28241; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:45:11 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 01:45:11 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981230003606.007ae220@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:36:06 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: My web site... In-Reply-To: <7e4e392b.367d4288@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"A_1LN1.0.I76._cSYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi, all... Well, I've finally gotten around to getting a small site back up to promote my music and such. I figured I'd post here, as there are a couple of things of interest linked up from the site. One is a compilation called Pure Granulated Noise. 70 artists are invited to contribute one-minute tracks. There's more info linked from my site, so please check it out, if you're at all interested. I'll probably send everyone the info as well. I hope to have some sound files up in the upcoming weeks, so I'll keep you all posted. Thanks for listening! Sincerely, Jeff McLeod __________________________________________ This is not here-- And now is almost over... From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 02:09:21 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id CAA02943; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:09:21 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:09:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981230005626.007b13d0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: subversive@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 00:56:26 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod Subject: CD Compilation In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981230003606.007ae220@pop.mindspring.com> References: <7e4e392b.367d4288@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"G2gz71.0.Wh7.4wSYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy, Here's the compilation info that I mentioned in a previous post. Seems like a great idea. I thought this might be of interest to everyone. Sincerely, Jeff McLeod I invite you to participate in Pure Granulated Sound, a CD compilation project coordinated by Interfear Recordings (myself) and co-produced by all who contribute. All you need to join in is one minute of sound, and twenty-five dollars (US). The General Plan: It's pretty simple really: You send me a one-minute recording and 25 bucks, and your recording will be part of the CD. Once 70 submissions are recieved, 1000 CDs will be pressed, and this pressing will be divided up amongst the contributors. If you contribute a track, you will receive 14 copies of the CD. Isn't this a cool idea? I got it from Brent C. at Thora-Zine. Is it really so simple? Of course not! Read on for details... Acceptable Types of Sound: Just about anything, but it better be interesting. I'm starting this mostly as a showcase for experimental artists, which includes: electronic, noise, avant-garde, collage, all those terms and more. However, I would not refuse to place a pop song or punk band or hip-hop act or techno piece on this CD so long as it was interesting. Different. Distinctive in some way. If you sound like Hootie and the Blowfish, well, save your money, the world already has enough of that. However, if you sound like Hootie and the Blowfish being lowered into a vat of rabid hamsters, well, I want to hear that. INTERFEAR RECORDINGS (me) RESERVES THE RIGHT to reject any submitted track for lack of interesting qualities, but I'm actually a softie, so you'll have to be pretty darn ordinary for me to reject you. Submission Formats: I'm anticipating a variety of entries, from lo-fi to hi-tech. Here's what I can work with: Cassettes: Cassettes are cheap and easy. You can send your track in on any bias tape. I can play tapes encoded with Dolby B, C, and S. No Dolby is also perfectly acceptable. PLEASE MARK DOWN WHAT SORT OF NOISE REDUCTION YOU ARE USING, EVEN IF YOU AREN'T USING ANY. If you don't label your tape clearly and I have to guess what's going on, I'm not going to feel at all gulity if I mess it up. Digital Computer Files: DO NOT E-MAIL TRACKS!! E-mailing me large sound files will get you rejected out of hand. I would prefer audio files to be sent in CD-quality .WAV format (44.1khz, 16 bit). I can do some conversions, but of course, this degrades sound quality. Digital files can be sent on Iomega ZIP disks or CD-ROM. If you can write your own audio CD-Rs, you can send your track as an audio CD. Contact me if you have any questions. At this time, I am not able to handle mp3-encoded files. Digital Audio Tape: I also accept tracks on DAT. Again, have the recordings made at CD-standard 44.1khz sampling rate. Other: If you must be difficult, I can play 8-track cartridges. I also have an old homestyle reel-to-reel machine (1/4" quarter-track stereo, plays the two-sided home stereo tapes). At this moment, I have no pro-style reel deck. (well, I do, but it's in the shop, and I'm not sure if it can be fixed, or if I'll be able to afford repairing it.) One Minute! Why one minute? Several reasons. 1. If it sucks, it'll be over soon. 2. I hope to have as many different artists participating as possible-- It's a good way to share your name and work with lots of other artists! 3. It's a challenge (lots of experimental artists, myself included, tend to make long epic compositions. I found it a challenge to make an interesting track that kept within one minute for Brent C.'s Noise Kills Punk Dead [still not quite released yet]). 4. It keeps the cost down for each contributor. 5. Frankly, I just like the idea of a whole bunch of short tracks thrown together in chaotic fashion on one disc. So there. Please keep your track as close to a minute as possible. If you're working in the digital domain, you should have no problems keeping it at a minute. If you're recording on analog, it's trickier, I know. I won't bitch about it if you're one or two seconds over or under. If, however, you start going over 5, 10, 15 seconds, well... I will not be afraid to edit. Be warned. The Disc Roster: This project is open-ended-- if it looks like I'll be getting enough submissions to do more than one disc, I will. Positions on the disc are on a first-come, first-serve basis. I will not be taking reservations; your track will be placed on the disc's roster only when both your master tape and your payment are in my possession. You may enter more than one track; however, in order to encourage a wide variety of artists, I am limiting an artist's appearance on each disc to no more than 2 tracks. (Some leeway may be granted for collaborative efforts.) Excess tracks will be rolled over into the next edition of the compilation. The Financial Plan: If you send cash, conceal it well. Make checks or money orders out to: Colin Wales. Send master tapes and payment to: Colin Wales / interfear recordings P.O. Box 1324 Muscatine, Iowa 52761 U.S.A. questions/comments by email: stophim@muscanet.com I encourage international contributions; however, I have no way to convert foreign funds-- please pay in U.S. funds. 70 tracks/contributors at $25 each means a fund of $1750, which should be enough to press 1000 CDs, as well as handle mailing 70 packages out to each contributor. Each contributor will receive 14 CDs, the remainder will be used for promotional purposes. I am currently looking at different CD plants and possible options for packaging (suggestions are welcome), and there is a possibility of coming in under budget. If this happens, I'll try to increase the number of CDs pressed. In such a case, 1050 CDs will be distributed among the contributors. Anything over that amount, I will attempt to distribute and sell through commercial channels. Any profit from such sales will be retained by Interfear Recordings (me). Consider it my fee for organizing this project. Don't worry, it will go towards producing more quality strangeness. Final Notes: I'm looking forward to putting this CD (and many more after) together-- it has the potential for being a fun and interesting little artifact. Comments are welcome. Do you have a suggestion for 'zines or other suitable review publications? Do you have distribution tips if the thing goes over a thousand copies? I'd love to hear 'em... If, for some reason, you have a dire objection to some aspect of this project or the way I'm coordinating it... well, start your own project! We need lots more of this kind of stuff! http://members.xoom.com/stophim/interfear/granular.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 03:39:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id DAA06882; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:39:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 03:39:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:35:12 +0900 (JST) X-Sender: morgan@popmail.gol.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812300810.DAA27891@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Morgan Fisher Subject: Re: The Next Step(?) Resent-Message-ID: <"_3ket2.0.-51.gLUYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com "ur eye" wrote: Hi folks, Well, I find myself thinking about my loops the next day. I think that means that I am ready to look for a sampling device. I'm going to try Cool edit for now but I would like to know what others are using in terms of samplers and/or software. Maybe a post-party listing of what you all are presently using would be of interest to others as well. ========= As samplers go I think Akai are easy to use and used ones are getting cheaper and cheaper. For sound editing/processing software (for the Mac), I really recommend SoundMaker, which is cheap and has a huge number of very good plugins. It's in a slightly complicated phase right now because it is in transition to become a new version of an old program called SoundEffects. I won't confuse you with more details here, except to introduce some sites with plenty of info on these programs and their plugins: http://www.micromat.com/micromat/soundmaker/soundmaker.html (the site for the soon-to be defunct SoundMaker) http://www.riccisoft.com/soundeffects/ (the site for the soon-to be reborn SoundMaker) http://members.tripod.com/~alex_yermakov (SoundFront plugins) http://www.kagi.com/mnorris/soundmagic (SoundMagic plugins) Good luck! Morgan Fisher >From Morgan Fisher, Tokyo, Japan Email address: morgan@gol.com Second email address: Morgan_Fisher@ringo.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 07:49:24 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id HAA31010; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:49:24 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:49:24 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981230124412.00daa850@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: cavallo@mail.dada.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:44:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Leonardo Cavallo Subject: Re: The Next Step(?) Resent-Message-ID: <"KiFJS2.0.Q57.J_XYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com For easy of use I don't think the Yamaha A3000 has rivals. Great and cheap sampler. I just purchased one few months ago and I think it is a great product. Great sound, a lot of realtime control, 3 FX processors inside as standard and an exp. unit (more output channels plus dig.out, standard ONLY 4 analogic) for few more dollars. I use a PC and there are a lot of progs that support the A3000 directly. Wavesurgeon for chopping beats and sounds (and SCSI transfer), next version of Recycle or you can use SoundForge, Wavelab, ecc. for sample editing and quick transferring to the sampler. Using a PC can have some drawbacks in setup the whole thing (the Net is a great help for this) but there are a lot of fantastic progs (Acid, SoundForge, Wavelab, WaveSurgeon, Fruity Loops, Making Waves, ecc.) to make music. make your own choice. at the end you can make music professionally on either the platforms and using every progs available. ciao leo At 17:35 30.12.98 +0900, you wrote: >"ur eye" wrote: > >Hi folks, Well, I find myself thinking about my loops the next day. I >think that means that I am ready to look for a sampling device. I'm >going to try Cool edit for now but I would like to know what others are >using in terms of samplers and/or software. Maybe a post-party listing >of what you all are presently using would be of interest to others as >well. >========= > >As samplers go I think Akai are easy to use and used ones are getting >cheaper and cheaper. For sound editing/processing software (for the Mac), I >really recommend SoundMaker, which is cheap and has a huge number of very >good plugins. It's in a slightly complicated phase right now because it is >in transition to become a new version of an old program called >SoundEffects. I won't confuse you with more details here, except to >introduce some sites with plenty of info on these programs and their >plugins: > >http://www.micromat.com/micromat/soundmaker/soundmaker.html >(the site for the soon-to be defunct SoundMaker) > >http://www.riccisoft.com/soundeffects/ >(the site for the soon-to be reborn SoundMaker) > >http://members.tripod.com/~alex_yermakov >(SoundFront plugins) > >http://www.kagi.com/mnorris/soundmagic >(SoundMagic plugins) > >Good luck! > >Morgan Fisher > >From Morgan Fisher, Tokyo, Japan > >Email address: morgan@gol.com >Second email address: Morgan_Fisher@ringo.net > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 10:44:58 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id KAA02809; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:44:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 10:44:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <199812301530.HAA11170@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #263 Date: Wed, 30 Dec 98 09:32:50 -0600 x-sender: hartne.t@mail.apple.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: <"P4rLc2.0.q3.1aaYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com > >>I'd have to say that if they're going >>to rename the Echoplex, I'd suspect another impending long delay for new >>units, service, etc. Ah...life in the soap opera of the looping >>underworld continues business-as-usual. > >no need to be so cynical. I think the transition is largely complete >already, with no serious bumps expected. It seems to me that they've made >it ok. Nobody's said anything here anyway, and you guys usually scream >about everything, so it must be safe! :-) But ya know, you could always >call them yourself and see how it's going. I haven't called them because I only have one Echoplex, and I'm waiting for the second one through the group buy. I need the Echoplex for gigs several times a week, and haven't had a backup. I'll be pleased as punch if they can turn it around in 7-10 days, but if some part goes on backorder for a few weeks it means nothing to Gibson but I'm flat fucked at that point, so I'll wait until I've got my second unit in hand. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 12:17:18 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id MAA09251; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:17:18 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:17:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <98Dec30.120709est.19630@Donmills.corporate.southam.ca> From: Jim Bailey To: "'looppost'" Subject: RE: Music suggestions? Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:08:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE33ED.18621760" Resent-Message-ID: <"rfg9X.0.pE1.9sbYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE33ED.18621760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From: Jeff & Vonda McLeod[SMTP:subversive@mindspring.com] >Sent: December 20, 1998 1:53 AM > What I like is the darker stuff. Atonal, noisy or even ambient--just = as >long as it has an edge of danger to it. I do appreciate artists who = have a >nice balance of dark and light, too. I'm currently listening to a band >called Hovercraft, who are improv-based and have blown the cobwebs out = of >my skull. Just guitar, bass and drums--but it all sounds like something >right from a murderer's brain. Very disturbing. Although this thread seems to have been and gone already, I thought I'd = add a late contribution. Not only to make a suggestion, but because this = is the third list on which the subject of = dark/scary/creepy/dangerous-sounding music has arisen in the last = month!! (at least of the ones to which I belong). Now that's creepy in = itself; the same topic, independently, on three different lists. As far = as I know, I'm the only common factor, and I didn't start it in any of = the cases. My suggestion on the other two lists was "Electric Storm," by White = Noise from way back in '69. I don't know for sure if there's any looping = going on, but wouldn't be surprised. The first five tracks are more pop = oriented, but the last two (side two on wonderful vinyl) are very = creepy. The last track "Black Mass: An Electric Storm in Hell" is the = theme tune for my radio show, named after the album. BTW, if anyone out = there would like to send promo material our way, I'd be more than happy = to play it. You can get the address from: = http://www.sac.ryerson.ca/ckln/html/about/ContactCKLN.html . I play all = sorts of stuff, not just dark/gloomy, so don't worry about style (unless = it's ultra-commercial sounding - the weirder the better). If you send it = to the attention of "Electric Storm" it should get to me fairly quickly. Have a good new year, all. 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> -----Original Message----- > From: Travis Hartnett [SMTP:hartnett.t@apple.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 1998 10:33 AM > To: Looper's Delight > Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V98 #263 > > I'm waiting for the second one through the group buy. > > Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 14:45:37 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id OAA05963; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:45:37 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 14:45:37 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Reply-To: From: "Javier Miranda V." To: Subject: Scanners Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:41:18 -0800 Message-ID: <000401be342c$5e96d060$26ceefd1@electra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981230124412.00daa850@mail.dada.it> Resent-Message-ID: <"sNrw51.0.gn.85eYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com V2hhdCBkbyB5b3UgdGhpbmsgb2YgdGhlIEFrYWkgUzIwPyAgSSBmb3VuZCBncmVhdCBkZXNjcmlw dGlvbnMgb2Ygc29tZSBnZWFyIGF0IDh0aCBTdHJlZXQgTXVzaWMncyBzaXRlLCBodHRwOi8vd3d3 Ljh0aHN0cmVldC5jb20vYWthaS5odG1sLiAgSXQncyBub3QgYXMgaGlnaC1xdWFsaXR5IGFzIGEg Q0QgcGxheWVyLCBidXQgZm9yIHRoZSBtb25leT8NCg0KV2hlcmUgZG8geW91IGdldCB1c2VkIHNh bXBsZXJzPw0KDQo+IC0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQo+IEZyb206IExlb25hcmRv IENhdmFsbG8gW21haWx0bzpjYXZhbGxvQGRhZGEuaXRdDQo+IFNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSAzMCBE ZWNlbWJlciAxOTk4IDQ6NDQgQU0NCj4gVG86IExvb3BlcnMtRGVsaWdodEBhbm5paGlsaXN0LmNv bQ0KPiBTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogVGhlIE5leHQgU3RlcCg/KQ0KPiANCj4gDQo+IEZvciBlYXN5IG9m IHVzZSBJIGRvbid0IHRoaW5rIHRoZSBZYW1haGEgQTMwMDAgaGFzIHJpdmFscy4gR3JlYXQgYW5k IGNoZWFwDQo+IHNhbXBsZXIuIEkganVzdCBwdXJjaGFzZWQgb25lIGZldyBtb250aHMgYWdvIGFu ZCBJIHRoaW5rIGl0IGlzIGEgZ3JlYXQNCj4gcHJvZHVjdC4gR3JlYXQgc291bmQsIGEgbG90IG9m IHJlYWx0aW1lIGNvbnRyb2wsIDMgRlggcHJvY2Vzc29ycyBpbnNpZGUgYXMNCj4gc3RhbmRhcmQg YW5kIGFuIGV4cC4gdW5pdCAobW9yZSBvdXRwdXQgY2hhbm5lbHMgcGx1cyBkaWcub3V0LCANCj4g c3RhbmRhcmQgT05MWQ0KPiA0IGFuYWxvZ2ljKSBmb3IgZmV3IG1vcmUgZG9sbGFycy4gSSB1c2Ug YSBQQyBhbmQgdGhlcmUgYXJlIGEgbG90IG9mIHByb2dzDQo+IHRoYXQgc3VwcG9ydCB0aGUgQTMw MDAgZGlyZWN0bHkuIFdhdmVzdXJnZW9uIGZvciBjaG9wcGluZyBiZWF0cyBhbmQgc291bmRzDQo+ IChhbmQgU0NTSSB0cmFuc2ZlciksIG5leHQgdmVyc2lvbiBvZiBSZWN5Y2xlIG9yIHlvdSBjYW4g dXNlIFNvdW5kRm9yZ2UsDQo+IFdhdmVsYWIsIGVjYy4gZm9yIHNhbXBsZSBlZGl0aW5nIGFuZCBx dWljayB0cmFuc2ZlcnJpbmcgdG8gdGhlIHNhbXBsZXIuDQo+IA0KPiBVc2luZyBhIFBDIGNhbiBo YXZlIHNvbWUgZHJhd2JhY2tzIGluIHNldHVwIHRoZSB3aG9sZSB0aGluZyAodGhlIE5ldCBpcyBh DQo+IGdyZWF0IGhlbHAgZm9yIHRoaXMpIGJ1dCB0aGVyZSBhcmUgYSBsb3Qgb2YgZmFudGFzdGlj IHByb2dzIChBY2lkLA0KPiBTb3VuZEZvcmdlLCBXYXZlbGFiLCBXYXZlU3VyZ2VvbiwgRnJ1aXR5 IExvb3BzLCBNYWtpbmcgV2F2ZXMsIA0KPiBlY2MuKSB0byBtYWtlDQo+IG11c2ljLiBtYWtlIHlv dXIgb3duIGNob2ljZS4gYXQgdGhlIGVuZCB5b3UgY2FuIG1ha2UgbXVzaWMgDQo+IHByb2Zlc3Np b25hbGx5IG9uDQo+IGVpdGhlciB0aGUgcGxhdGZvcm1zIGFuZCB1c2luZyBldmVyeSBwcm9ncyBh dmFpbGFibGUuDQo+IA0KPiBjaWFvDQo+IGxlbw0KPiANCj4gDQo+IEF0IDE3OjM1IDMwLjEyLjk4 ICswOTAwLCB5b3Ugd3JvdGU6DQo+ID4idXIgZXllIiB3cm90ZToNCj4gPg0KPiA+SGkgZm9sa3Ms IFdlbGwsIEkgZmluZCBteXNlbGYgdGhpbmtpbmcgYWJvdXQgbXkgbG9vcHMgdGhlIG5leHQgZGF5 LiBJDQo+ID50aGluayB0aGF0IG1lYW5zIHRoYXQgSSBhbSByZWFkeSB0byBsb29rIGZvciBhIHNh bXBsaW5nIGRldmljZS4gSSdtDQo+ID5nb2luZyB0byB0cnkgQ29vbCBlZGl0IGZvciBub3cgYnV0 IEkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBrbm93IHdoYXQgb3RoZXJzIGFyZQ0KPiA+dXNpbmcgaW4gdGVybXMg b2Ygc2FtcGxlcnMgYW5kL29yIHNvZnR3YXJlLiBNYXliZSBhIHBvc3QtcGFydHkgbGlzdGluZw0K PiA+b2Ygd2hhdCB5b3UgYWxsIGFyZSBwcmVzZW50bHkgdXNpbmcgd291bGQgYmUgb2YgaW50ZXJl c3QgdG8gb3RoZXJzIGFzDQo+ID53ZWxsLg0KPiA+PT09PT09PT09DQo+ID4NCj4gPkFzIHNhbXBs ZXJzIGdvIEkgdGhpbmsgQWthaSBhcmUgZWFzeSB0byB1c2UgYW5kIHVzZWQgb25lcyBhcmUgZ2V0 dGluZw0KPiA+Y2hlYXBlciBhbmQgY2hlYXBlci4gRm9yIHNvdW5kIGVkaXRpbmcvcHJvY2Vzc2lu ZyBzb2Z0d2FyZSAoZm9yIA0KPiB0aGUgTWFjKSwgSQ0KPiA+cmVhbGx5IHJlY29tbWVuZCBTb3Vu ZE1ha2VyLCB3aGljaCBpcyBjaGVhcCBhbmQgaGFzIGEgaHVnZSBudW1iZXIgb2YgdmVyeQ0KPiA+ Z29vZCBwbHVnaW5zLiBJdCdzIGluIGEgc2xpZ2h0bHkgY29tcGxpY2F0ZWQgcGhhc2UgcmlnaHQg bm93IA0KPiBiZWNhdXNlIGl0IGlzDQo+ID5pbiB0cmFuc2l0aW9uIHRvIGJlY29tZSBhIG5ldyB2 ZXJzaW9uIG9mIGFuIG9sZCBwcm9ncmFtIGNhbGxlZA0KPiA+U291bmRFZmZlY3RzLiBJIHdvbid0 IGNvbmZ1c2UgeW91IHdpdGggbW9yZSBkZXRhaWxzIGhlcmUsIGV4Y2VwdCB0bw0KPiA+aW50cm9k dWNlIHNvbWUgc2l0ZXMgd2l0aCBwbGVudHkgb2YgaW5mbyBvbiB0aGVzZSBwcm9ncmFtcyBhbmQg dGhlaXINCj4gPnBsdWdpbnM6DQo+ID4NCj4gPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWljcm9tYXQuY29tL21pY3Jv bWF0L3NvdW5kbWFrZXIvc291bmRtYWtlci5odG1sDQo+ID4odGhlIHNpdGUgZm9yIHRoZSBzb29u LXRvIGJlIGRlZnVuY3QgU291bmRNYWtlcikNCj4gPg0KPiA+aHR0cDovL3d3dy5yaWNjaXNvZnQu Y29tL3NvdW5kZWZmZWN0cy8NCj4gPih0aGUgc2l0ZSBmb3IgdGhlIHNvb24tdG8gYmUgcmVib3Ju IFNvdW5kTWFrZXIpDQo+ID4NCj4gPmh0dHA6Ly9tZW1iZXJzLnRyaXBvZC5jb20vfmFsZXhfeWVy bWFrb3YNCj4gPihTb3VuZEZyb250IHBsdWdpbnMpDQo+ID4NCj4gPmh0dHA6Ly93d3cua2FnaS5j b20vbW5vcnJpcy9zb3VuZG1hZ2ljDQo+ID4oU291bmRNYWdpYyBwbHVnaW5zKQ0KPiA+DQo+ID5H b29kIGx1Y2shDQo+ID4NCj4gPk1vcmdhbiBGaXNoZXINCj4gPg0KPiA+RnJvbSBNb3JnYW4gRmlz aGVyLCBUb2t5bywgSmFwYW4NCj4gPg0KPiA+RW1haWwgYWRkcmVzczogbW9yZ2FuQGdvbC5jb20N Cj4gPlNlY29uZCBlbWFpbCBhZGRyZXNzOiBNb3JnYW5fRmlzaGVyQHJpbmdvLm5ldA0KPiA+DQo+ ID4NCj4gPg0KPiA+DQo+IA0KPiA= From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 15:22:48 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id PAA19030; 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Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:37:38 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:37:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <368A2B19.D20E9B7@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:31:10 +0000 From: Bill Moyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: Re: The Next Step(?) References: <19981230034538.15410.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"p57GV3.0.sG2.PhfYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com I use a EMU ESI 32, it's pretty simple, has scsi and upgrade options. I'm as mac guy so I do my editing using D-Sound Pro, shareware $39 developed by a great guy in Italy, does scsi transfers ect., and I edit with Sound Edit 16 also. Seems you can get a lot of bang for your buck these days, have fun. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 16:42:42 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id QAA15921; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:42:42 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:42:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Sender: mpeters@csi.com Message-ID: <01BE3444.28B2A790.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters To: "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" Subject: AW: Looper's Delight Volume 2 CDs available NOW! Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 16:32:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"7txgl1.0.sg2.9lfYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com hi Matt, have you sent copies to me yet? It's so disappointing to come home from work every day and there's nothing in the mailbox. * Michael Peters: mpeters@csi.com * escape veloopity: electronic guitar loop music * http://listen.to/michaelpeters From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 17:03:16 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA24904; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:03:16 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:03:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981230134849.01bcc8f0@shell5.ba.best.com> X-Sender: jcooper@shell5.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 13:48:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: john s cooper Subject: PMC-10 editor/librarian Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <"LRO6H1.0.wX4.r-fYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com to the folks who were asking about pmc-10 editors: there's a kinda clunky pmc-10 editor in motu's unisyn. not the greatest editor/lib available, but it works: http://www.motu.com/english/software/unisyn/unisyn.html -john ...................................................... john s cooper opcode systems, inc http://www.planetz.com http://www.opcode.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 17:18:53 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id RAA31748; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:18:53 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:18:53 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f From: Crossedout@aol.com Message-ID: <40d598e8.368aa4ee@aol.com> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:10:54 EST To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music suggestions? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"mIBJs3.0.fp6.yIgYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com In a message dated 12/30/98 11:18:52 AM Central Standard Time, jbailey@corporate.southam.ca writes: << My suggestion on the other two lists was "Electric Storm," by White Noise from way back in '69. >> Good call!! I was looking for this for years, and Island Records just re- issued it (at least in Europe, where a friend found me a copy). - Crossedout@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 19:44:20 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id TAA29149; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:44:20 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:44:20 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:54:35 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: patrick@his.com (Patrick Smith) Subject: Re: The Next Step(?) Resent-Message-ID: <"0RJJN3.0.s55.mHiYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com ur eye wrote: >Hi folks, Well, I find myself thinking about my loops the next day. I >think that means that I am ready to look for a sampling device. Well I suspect this is not really your next step, but I've had a lot of fun with my BOSS SP202 Dr. Sample. Forget about editing any samples unless your very patient and somewhat lucky. BUt for around$225 used you can get a taste to see if it's for you.FngerPaint uses it all the time theses days. Perhaps some day we''ll get a real sampler, but until the dollars rain down again we're holding tight with the doctor. Patrick Now Available: FingerPaint Primary Colors: BLUE "can be edgy and intense as well as relaxing...." FAQT Shockwave audio featuring our newest release Primary Colors:Blue www.fingerpaint.net From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 20:49:43 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id UAA24614; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:49:43 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:49:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-ID: <2148EC143F29D1118BE000805FC13CD0772005@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "Allison Brooker (E-mail)" , "Amanda Walker (E-mail)" , "Acosta, Andres" , "Honkawa, Anthony I." , "Brian Allman (E-mail)" , "Johansson, Britt M." , "Bruce Gardner (E-mail)" , "Frodyma, Carla A." , "Ceci Galban (E-mail)" , "Dunne, Chris J." , "Darryl Tewes (E-mail)" , "David Mosso (E-mail)" <"chowderhead"@kuci.org>, "Poelman, David H." , "Tarabochia, David A." , "Omatsu, Dean T." , "Rogers, Deborah A." , "Loubert, Denise J." , "Daley, Dianne F." , "Ellen Burr (E-mail)" , "GE Stinson (E-mail)" , "Payne, James C." , "Christmas, Janice J." , "Joe Berardi (E-mail)" , "John and Kelly (E-mail)" , "Ken Rosser (E-mail)" , "Larry Rott (E-mail)" , "Brush, Mark P." , "Phoebe Liebig (E-mail)" , "Scot Ray (E-mail)" , "Dunn, Shari L." , "Chollar, Stephen K." , "Burke, Susan M." , "Gonzalez, Sybil A." , "Tim Morales (E-mail)" , "Fowler, Valerie M." , "Woody A. (E-mail)" , "'Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com'" , "Allen Moon (E-mail)" Subject: StALiQ/Napalm Quartet Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:09:12 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Resent-Message-ID: <"-QyEK.0.UK5.sQjYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Howdy, Upcoming gigs: StALiQ: Steuart Liebig: ContraBassguitars, loopage Alex Cline: Drumset Jeff Gauthier: El. Violins Eric Barber: Saxophones with Billy Mintz Trio (Billy is a great drummer) 3 Jan, 1999; 8:00 p.m. Pasadena Shakespeare Theater Pasadena Mall, 2nd Level $10.00 Napalm Quartet: G.E. Stinson: Guitars, applied tools and technology, loopage, noise Andrew Van Ah: Guitars, mayhem Brian Christopherson: Drumset Steuart Liebig: Basses, loopage, metal and wood implements 4 Jan, 1999; 10:30 p.m. Luna Park, 665 No Robertson. (@ Robertson and Santa Monica) $6.00 From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 21:53:29 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA18707; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:53:29 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:53:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981231034712.006b669c@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 03:47:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?ra=FCl?= bonell =?iso-8859-1?Q?tom=E0s?= Subject: FS: Digitech TSR-12 studio reverb/multi-effects processor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <"BgBAJ3.0.9a2.MAkYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Hi there ! I'm selling this processor, if interested, e-mail me privately. I'm asking $250 + shipping. I include a brief description of the unit : Digitech TSR-12 =20 Studio Reverb / Multi-Effects Processor 256 presets, (128+128 user) Stereo Input / Output stereo processing, full bandwidth effects(20 Hz-20 Khz) studio quality reverb, gated reverb, 4 tap delay, modulated delay, =20 4 phase chorus, dual pitch shifter,=20 arpeggiator, 1.5 sampler, dual phaser, 5 band parametric equalizer, 15 band graphic equalizer,=20 tremolo, dual panning , dual flanger, stereo ducker, stereo noise gate, phase inverter, ... Excuse me for the non-related content. Yours. Ra=FCl. =20 ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// Ra=FCl Bonell Tom=E0s =20 http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/slollnoirc ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////= //////// From Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com Wed Dec 30 21:58:10 1998 Received: (from kflint@localhost) by rosy.yourwebhost.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) id VAA20773; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:58:10 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:58:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: rosy.yourwebhost.com: kflint set sender to Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com using -f Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:48:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199812310248.UAA02765@mw4.texas.net> X-Sender: sharkey@mail.texas.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: james rhodes Subject: San Antonio dates for Theorem 5 etc.( with loops etc.) Resent-Message-ID: <"GM0G13.0.Ay3.oMkYs"@rosy.yourwebhost.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/3357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com to any local list members, wanted to provide an updated schedule to any listmembers etc. planning in the San Antonio area in the next month. I will be providing Stick and loops for the following dates Sat, Jan 2 with : Theorem 5 at La Tuna 9:00-11:00pm ..100 Probandt St. 78204 (210) 224-8862 Tues Jan 5 with: Theorem 5 at Taco Land 10:30pm-1:00am 306 W. Grayson St. 78212 (210) 223-8406 Fri Jan 8 with: Daddy Monkey at the Clippership Bookstore 8:00-10:00pm 722 Balcones Hgts Rd (210) 734-5409 Fri Feb 12 with : Theorem 5 at Taco Land 12:00-2:00am 306 W. Grayson st. (210) 223-8406 hope to see some of you there thanks, james