Re: Re: Keller Williams / jam bands/ rc50

[Paul Richards <paulrichard10@adelphia.net>]

Listening to that Keller Williams vid for a (short) bit kinda vindicates 
my eyeballing vids of Hannah Montana or Ashley Tisdale on the Disney 
Channel as I channel surf the tele. May as well as enjoy some eye candy if 
one is going to listen to mindless music. :)
--
Paul Richards

---- Miko Biffle <biffoz@arczip.com> wrote: 
> Jab and parry . . . So many tiny loopholes to rip us all with.  You've
> really got *my* number Krispin. I guess you really are here just for the
> mortal combat of it all.  I'll just move along now.  I have no intention 
>of
> continuing with all this beautiful wanking.  I can't believe you
> characterize your spiteful negativity as "stimulating discourse", wow.
> 
> > I'm just waiting for someone to say "enough already" with this 
>non-looping
> > rant...but I'm bored and will continue just once more, because I so 
>much
> > enjoy responding to Miko....
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Miko Biffle" <biffoz@arczip.com>
> >
> > >> Fake passion, real passion, purple passion, purple people eater
> > > passion....the entertainment industry could care less. Like I said,
> > > sometimes playing the "I'm sincere" card backfires, because people 
>flock
> > > to
> > > insincerity.
> > >
> > > How do you know it's insincere?  Because *you* think it is?  And if
> you're
> > > "playing the sincere card", that's insincere!
> >
> > Hmmmm....maybe because they admit it?  I said "sometimes". So are you
> > therefore
> > saying that all people in the entertainment industry are always
> > intentionally sincere?
> > That appears to be the contrary of my claim, and quite an extrodinary 
>one
> at
> > that.
> >
> > > Many actors step into and out of character, yet still retain their
> > > integrity.
> >
> > You  just confimed my original point by saying "many"...that implies 
>there
> > are
> > some who don't. Thank sfor doing my work for me. The world is not all
> roses
> > and cream. "Some" people out there don't have integrity or are
> intentionally
> > incincere, by our most common definitions of these terms.
> >
> > > > . . . For a creative guy, you're sounding somewhat intolerant.
> > >
> > > It doesn't matter what *we*, *others* or *I* know . . . it's about 
>you.
> If
> > > your intent isn't to communicate honestly, it's about deceit.
> >
> > It's not about me, in this case.  I'm communicating
> > a set of ideas, and it is irrelevant whether I believe in them or not.
> It's
> > about
> > the stimulation of discourse. One can communicate thoughts and ideas
> without
> > believing in all of them or taking everything personal.  Do you believe
> that
> > advancements in thought and understanding arise partly by heathly 
>debate,
> > synthesis,
> > antithesis, etc?  I do. Or do I need to put a sticky note on my 
>computer
> > screen that
> > says, "Note to self: When communicating with Miko, please ensure
> everything
> > I
> > say is a personal statement about myself and is utterly sincere and
> > honest".  :)
> > It's note even the right context to ask for that sort  of thing...we're
> > exhanging ideas.
> > man.....I'm not asking for a psychoanalysis. It's words on a computer
> screen
> > that
> > makes us think and feel. That I got a reaction out of you makes me 
>happy
> > [note, I'm
> > being sincere here].
> >
> > > My belief is that however corny, contrived, or schlocky others 
>perceive
> > > someone's act to be, that person gets up in the morning and intends 
>to
> do
> > > their best. If their best is cheesy to you, so what? They're being
> honest,
> > > and commiting to a plan of action. More power to them, and their 
>honest
> > > effort deserves respect. You don't have to like it, but it's worthy. 
>Is
> a
> > > devil's advocate and poseur just-for-the-fake-of-it worthy?
> >
> > That's great. And you think someone here is disagreeing with you? I 
>don't
> > recall
> > anyone saying Keller didn't deserve repect. I don't think you even 
>need to
> > argue your point above. Doesn't most everyone deserve this sort of
> respect?
> > Perhaps you should go back and read some of my original points, 
>because it
> > seems like this thread become fuzzy in light of what people are 
>actually
> > claiming
> > and why.
> >
> > >> But, seriously, yes, I have experienced many magical moments from
> utterly
> > > simple pieces of performances.  I don't see your point, though. I was
> > > intentionally marginalizing his performance with the observation that
> what
> > > he does is not particular difficult to do or that original and 
>creative,
> > > and
> > > magical moments don't negate that fact.
> > >
> > > My point is to ask:  If it's so easy-if there's nothing unusual-if 
>it's
> > > all
> > > ordinary and bland; what IS it that draws people and inspires them?  
>Is
> it
> > > intangible?  Spiritual?  Honest?  Pertinent?
> >
> > It could be a lot of things. And how does this relate to my original
> points?
> > I seem to have lost how your comments map back to the original points.
> > Sorry.
> >
> > K-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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