Re: EDP more loops/feedback issues

["L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>]

Yes i gotcha now great tips and valuable info man
thank you!!
cheers
Luis

--- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I have
> >> ran into the
> >> problem you describe many times. What I do is to
> >> make sure I always
> >> have the feedback function assigned to that
> actual
> >> expression pedal
> >> in at least one patch with an "harmless" function
> -
> >> like for example
> >> Overdub. If I don't play anything I can press a
> >> short Overdub only to
> >> recall the patch that has feedback assigned to
> the
> >> expression pedal.
> 
> 
> On 5 okt 2006, at 08.33, L.A. Angulo wrote:
> 
> > so if i understand correctly you assign a value of
> 127
> > on the overdub button for example and press it
> shortly
> > to reset the controller?
> 
> No. I'm talking about the FCB "PADS" assignment of
> particular FCB  
> PATCHES.
> 
> When I press my foot at the overdub button the FCB
> is doing two  
> things: (1) Sending the MIDI Note for "Overdub" and
> (2) recalling the  
> pad assignments of that patch (since you call up a
> patch by pressing  
> a button),
> 
> In my EDP rig I have different functions assigned to
> expression pedal  
> 2 in different patches. But since I know that when I
> press the undo  
> button I will also recall a patch that is using
> expression pedal 2  
> for EDP Feedback. So if I recently called up a patch
> where I the  
> expression is used pedal for something different
> (like for example  
> tweaking the tempo division of the MIDI Clock beat
> sync LFO of my  
> filterbank) and suddenly discover that "oh, shit - I
> forgot the EDP  
> Feedback at 88 % and now all my music is
> vanishing!!!! HILFE -  
> HILFE!" ...he, he...  what I can do in that
> situation is to quickly  
> press undo two times (on/off) without playing
> anything, only to make  
> the expression pedal 2 start sending the EDP
> Feedback data instead of  
> the Filterbank data. Then I push down the toe to
> maximize feedback  
> and get back to whatever I was doing.
> 
> >
> >> Another strategy I have developed to stay out of
> >> such trouble, and
> >> also to be able to loop faster and more fluently,
> is
> >> to double up
> >> most function over many controller buttons.
> >> Especially the feedback
> >> functions. I like to have both expression pedals
> and
> >> twistable knobs
> >> or faders assigned to the same parameter. Then I
> can
> >> simply reach for
> >> the most immediate way to achieve feedback or
> >> whatever.
> >
> > this sounds cool,but it could create problems as
> > well...donīt know if i am understanding it right
> could
> > you give me a more specific example?
> 
> 
> Ok. Three examples:
> (1)  Let's take that catastrophe scenario from
> above. I have a little  
> hand mixer beside the laptop (Faderfox) and some of
> the faders and  
> knobs are sending the same MIDI cc data that the FCB
> expression pedal  
> does send. So I can use either the pedal or a knob
> or a fader.
> 
> (2) A typical example would be if I'm working in a
> FCB BANK where I  
> have no patch button ("pad", as the FCB manual calls
> them) that  
> brings up the particular MIDI cc I want for the
> expression pedal.  
> Then I simply reach out a hand and twist a knob -
> because that knob  
> is always sending this particular CC data.
> 
> (3) In Mobius there are many times when I'm working
> on one track (the  
> selected track, equals one EDP in a multi EDP rig)
> and find that I  
> want to adjust feedback of a loop playing on a
> different track  
> (another EDP). Then it's handy to have hardware
> knobs directly  
> addressing feedback (and other functions) directly
> on different tracks.
> 
> In Mobius there are both Feedback and Secondary
> Feedback and I like  
> to set it up to use them both. The Secondary
> Feedback can have any  
> setting because it only kicks in when loops are in
> Overdub, Multiply,  
> Substitute etc mode. The normal Feedback is usually
> set to 100 % and  
> I use it for fade outs or for manually creating
> volume patterns in  
> loops.
> 
> All the best
> 
> per
> 
> 
> 


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