Very long morphs (was: keeping loops interesting)

[mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>]

Dont' forget that the harmonic structure of
songs/progressions can mimic the harmonic structure of
a tone... though I'm not sure if that makes anything
more "Fractal."

What I'm looking for (in software hopefully) is
something that slowly changes a perameter over very
long lengths automatically.  Like modulating a filter
(delay or any other effect) with a sine wave, but have
the sine wave have a period of 10-20 minutes.

Anyone know of something that'll do that?  A VST? 
Reaktor .ens?  I think that would be a really cool way
to produce an interesting effect like the ah ah ah ah
loop in Laurie Anderson's Oh Superman.

--- Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill"
> <rs@moinlabs.de>
> 
> >> Okay, I understand the sequence of actions here,
> but I still
> >> don't see how this makes the music fractal.. How
> is the whole
> >> piece depicted in a similar way within itself? 
> Where is this
> >
> > The missing root notes of the chord progression
> (which have a period of 
> > four
> > bars) are also found in the bass line (which has a
> period of one bar). So 
> > if
> > you cut out one bar (any bar) of your chord
> progression, the root notes of
> > the entire chord progression are still there.
> 
> So the similar pattern is based on the absense of 
> notes?  Yeah, I get it 
> but it seems like a stretch to call this fractal
> music.  And do you call the 
> repating pattern recursive? It seems to repeat at
> only one level.
> 
> This may produce some interesting resutls, but
> another example would be if 
> you created a 1 minute looping piece, composed of as
> many parts you like, 
> copied it, doubled it's speed, copy it again, and
> then past it in a new 
> track so you have the original loop repeating within
> itself twice, but at 
> double speed. You could do this indefinitely,
> copying those two double speed 
> parts, double speeding them, and then copying the
> four new loops in a third 
> track, and so on....good grief, I'd love to hear
> this. Can you do it Rainer? 
> I dare you...fill up all 8 Mobius tracks. Your last
> track would consist of 
> 128 copies of your first track loop, each running at
> 8 times the speed. To 
> illustrate the effect, you could create the whole
> 8-track piece, and then 
> play it back, staring only one track up at a
> time...so we can hear the 
> additions.  I may try it myself, if I can muster the
> time today to program 
> Mobius to copy loops.
> 
> >> "similar" fashion inside itself.  Remember, the
> extreme or
> >> ideal example her is that of a holographic plate,
> where you
> >> can break it in half and see the original images
> preserved,
> >
> > No, you can't. You lose half of the angles of
> aspect.
> 
> What I meant to say, repeated at 
>
http://www.smithsrisca.demon.co.uk/holonomic-theory.html
> is that "the entire 
> image can be recreated from any one portion of the
> plate. That is to say, if 
> a hologram is broken in half each half can still be
> used, on its own, to 
> reproduce the whole image. And if each half is
> broken into quarters, all 
> four quarters can still be used, on their own, to
> reproduce the whole image. 
> And so on with practically no theoretical limit. All
> that happens is that 
> every fragmentation simply reduces the clarity of
> the image. A hologram, in 
> other words, obeys its own version of the Law of
> Mass Action."
> >
> > Rainer
> >
> 
> Kris 
> 
> 
> 


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