MIDI Octopus Re: Programming Rocktron All Access - HELP!!!!

["Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>]

On a vaguely related note, a friend was clearing out his basement and
bequeathed unto me a MIDI Octopus from the 1980s. I know so little about it
that I'm not sure how to even see if it works or if I should keep it or
ebay it.
It has a MIDI In and 8 outputs.
Do any of you fine citizens know anything about it?
Yours in Adrian Belew,
Tim


> [Original Message]
> From: Adrian Bartholomew <adrian@bartholomusic.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Date: 9/18/2005 11:16:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Programming Rocktron All Access - HELP!!!!
>
> i stand corrected
> ___
> Adrian Bartholomew
> Leawood KS
> On Sep 17, 2005, at 8:56 PM, Doug Cox wrote:
>
> > It can send CC's along with PC's, but it can't send on/off CC's in a  
> > "momentary" fashion.  Therefore, you can't use CC's to control the  
> > basic EDP functions with the FCB1010.
> >
> > Dig
> >
> > Adrian Bartholomew wrote:
> >
> >> kim, i may be wrong here but i believe the 1010 can be set to send  
> >> cc's automatically once a preset is chosen just like with notes. i  
> >> remember seeing that.
> >> ___*
> >> Adrian Bartholomew
> >> *Leawood KS
> >> On Sep 17, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Kim Flint wrote:
> >>
> >>     At 08:18 AM 9/17/2005, Craig Mitchell wrote:
> >>
> >>         How are people programming the All Access? Are you using
> >>         Control Numbers via Instant Access switches? Or are you using
> >>         Note ON/OFF via the Custom settings for presets?
> >>
> >>
> >>     I'm pretty sure the All Access has the flexibility to be set up to
> >>     use either. The FCB1010 can only control the echoplex using notes.
> >>     (sorry I don't use an All Access so I don't know the programming
> >>     steps.)
> >>
> >>
> >>         With the Echoplexes set to 'Controlsource=CNTR' I have been
> >>         using the Instant Access switches to trigger various  
> >> functions.
> >>
> >>         Record - This works but sometimes when I press the button it
> >>         starts recording a clears right away. A second press gets it
> >>         recording properly and I can loop.
> >>
> >>
> >>     I think I see your problem. The Echoplex wants to see a midi
> >>     command for both the pressing of the button AND the release of the
> >>     button. This is how it can tell if you are doing a short press or
> >>     a long press. It sounds like your controller is not sending the
> >>     "off" message when you release the button.
> >>
> >>     If you are using Notes, this means the midi controller sends a
> >>     NoteOn message when you press the button, and the corresponding
> >>     NoteOff message when you release the button. (like the way a midi
> >>     keyboard would do it.)
> >>
> >>     If you are using Continuous Controller messages, the controller
> >>     should send the appropriate controller number with a positive
> >>     value (like 64 or something) when you press the button. Then when
> >>     you release the button, it should send the same controller with
> >>     value 0.
> >>
> >>     Usually this means programming the midi controller to treat its
> >>     buttons as Momentary. It sounds like you might have the in
> >>     Latching mode. (where the first press sends the On, and the second
> >>     press sends the off)
> >>
> >>
> >>         Can one replicate the Echoplex pedalboard function of holding
> >>         down the record button and clearing the loop with the All
> >>         Access via midi?
> >>
> >>
> >>     yes, definitely! that's the idea of using the on/off concept.
> >>     That's the only way with midi to communicate that you are holding
> >>     a button down (sustained) or releasing it quickly. This allows the
> >>     Echoplex to get more functions out of less buttons. Otherwise
> >>     there would have to be lots of extra buttons to control even the
> >>     basic features of the echoplex, which would be awkward to use and
> >>     take up too much space.
> >>
> >>     Hope this helps,
> >>     kim
> >>
> >>
> >>      
> >> ______________________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>     Kim Flint | Looper's Delight
> >>     kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com
> >>
> >