>In a message dated 10/31/2000 6:43:50 AM Central Standard Time, torn scrawled: > >> or, maybe music educators will learn to stay closer apace w/'culture >> curves', >> & begin teaching turntablism (! & looping !) in schools..... >> > >for this to happen, music education graduates would have to learn it... and >colleges would have to teach it... and people who have learned it would have >to be willing to actually BE teachers. > >anyone? Then a different DT said: Given my experience in music education, the only way this wil happen in music academia is for the artists top turn white, die, and stay that way for a century or two. Having been in music academia I see where you are coming from. However not all schools (like the one I went to) are stuck in pre-Schoenberg music pedagogy. Seems like I have seen a few places that teach DJing technique alongside studio production even though I think they were more at the community college level. I wonder if the MIT Media Lab (or any other school of their caliber) has looked at Turntablism or real time looping? I wouldn't be surprised to see Christian Marclay or DJ Spooky teaching someday either. Both of them seem to have a knowledge of the "Classical" aesthetic being taught in music schools. Anyway, even if it is taught, I don't think that you will find the innovation coming out of the classroom. Most of Musical Academia is a ghetto for self agrandizing people who are unknown outside of their own community working on either the music of old warhorse composers or obscure unknown composers. Too many rules! It seems like in music school, there is this requirement to re-invent the wheel, that is learning everything since Palestrina onward before you can try out the new(er) ideas of today. Forget about learning anything non-Western or modern in most music schools. Fundamentals are important, but I just can't see how relevant it is to learn all of the old religious based classical music if your intention is making modern noise. I remember how freaked out my advisor was when I played a piece I composed for Electric Violin, Effects and Jamman... my 2 cents on this digression... Nick _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.